Speaker 1: Victoria Malfoy, my guest for the evening. You know exactly
Speaker 1: where you can find her at snaky Smut. Links to
Speaker 1: all of our social media are in the episode description,
Speaker 1: but I want to send you over to her patreon,
Speaker 1: patreon dot com slash snaky smut. What you're gonna find
Speaker 1: there is audio content and we're going to dive into
Speaker 1: that today. Please make sure you support the content creators
Speaker 1: who come on the show, Otherwise they don't come on
Speaker 1: the show anymore. Victoria, it's a pleasure to have you
Speaker 1: on tonight. Thank you.
Speaker 2: It's a pleasure to be here. Thanks so much for
Speaker 2: having me.
Speaker 1: So I normally start with the question everyone starts with,
Speaker 1: but I want to do it a little differently because
Speaker 1: I have a different one to start. What to be
Speaker 1: going with? Okay, how do you define your job title?
Speaker 3: I to find my job title is I wear mini hats.
Speaker 3: I do lots of different things, but I kind of
Speaker 3: keep myself under the umbrella of adult entertainer.
Speaker 1: All right, yeah, adult entertainer and the adult content creator.
Speaker 2: Maybe also also that too, Yes.
Speaker 1: So now let's go to my actual number one question here.
Speaker 1: How did you initially decide to get into the adult
Speaker 1: entertainment industry. What was the last hurdle you went over
Speaker 1: and went fuck it, new job.
Speaker 3: So it's a really it's kind of an interesting story.
Speaker 3: I've been in the adult entertainment industry off and on
Speaker 3: for like almost fifteen years. My initial start in it
Speaker 3: was around twenty eleven. I had just moved from my
Speaker 3: home state and I had moved to a new place.
Speaker 3: I was perfectly happy to start my vanilla job that
Speaker 3: I had all lined up, and then circumstances happened and
Speaker 3: I needed money like quick. So the first thing in
Speaker 3: my head was, I thought strip clubs always have like
Speaker 3: amateur night. But that is not a thing that happens
Speaker 3: very often, I have learned. So one of my friends
Speaker 3: hooked me up with a interview at Cheetahs, and that
Speaker 3: pretty much kicked everything off. I've always been a very
Speaker 3: sexual persons never bothered me, so I kind of took
Speaker 3: to it like a fish to water, and that was
Speaker 3: my jumping off point. And then I've been off and on,
Speaker 3: and then I would say, probably luckily a few minutes
Speaker 3: or a few minutes a few months before COVID started,
Speaker 3: I was introduced to the wonderful world of audio erotica,
Speaker 3: and I dove into that and that's been kind of
Speaker 3: the catalyst for everything ever since. I've have never had
Speaker 3: a vanilla job since then, and I'm happy about it.
Speaker 3: It's great. I'm really blessed. I get to do this
Speaker 3: all the time. That's super creative. But yeah, that's basically
Speaker 3: how it started, stopped, restarted.
Speaker 2: Again, and then I through doing.
Speaker 3: Audio, I moved into doing visual because I'd always done
Speaker 3: that previously, even before OnlyFans was around. So adding that
Speaker 3: and then the past, oh, I guess since May I
Speaker 3: have done more of the IRL stuff with other partners,
Speaker 3: and yeah, that's kind of where I'm at now.
Speaker 1: So you said twenty eleven is when you start on this.
Speaker 1: Let me say, if people are just listening to this
Speaker 1: and not watching the video, I literally crunched the numbers
Speaker 1: in my head and I went, was she ten years old?
Speaker 1: How does this work? You look phenomenal. Whatever age you are,
Speaker 1: I will not ask you look amazing.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much. I don't tell my exact age.
Speaker 3: I'm in my thirties, but thank you. I really appreciate that.
Speaker 1: No, I don't know you, and there's so much to
Speaker 1: dive into. So I reached down and I was talking
Speaker 1: to one of the PR people. They recommended you, and
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I was ready to wrap for my season.
Speaker 1: My wife and I always take a vacation at Halloween.
Speaker 1: I think you'll like this. Maybe are you? Are you
Speaker 1: a halloween person? I am.
Speaker 2: I'm a spooky person. I can't see it. I have
Speaker 2: horror stuff all behind me.
Speaker 1: You want that where do we go for Halloween? You
Speaker 1: tell me? I would think Salem. You Salem, Massachusetts every year?
Speaker 1: Room great? And then I look through. I go, Okay,
Speaker 1: she's hot. But like I've you know, talked to a
Speaker 1: lot of hot girls. Let's see, and I go, what
Speaker 1: the hell does she do? This is awesome? She does
Speaker 1: some really incredible stuff. What is your whole audio? You say? Like,
Speaker 1: what did you say in there? You said something where
Speaker 1: you were like I was introduced to the world of
Speaker 1: audio literature erotica type yeah, and I went like this, okay,
Speaker 1: I was interested to introduce to it about thirty eight
Speaker 1: minutes ago. So you know that's interesting. Can you tell
Speaker 1: me what it is?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: I get the concept of it, but yeah.
Speaker 2: It's it's really exciting.
Speaker 3: I love talking about it because it's it's just now
Speaker 3: becoming more i'd say mainstream, like people kind of know
Speaker 3: what it is.
Speaker 2: I had no idea what it was.
Speaker 3: So the way I describe it to people is it
Speaker 3: is like a radio play is from back in the day,
Speaker 3: but they're spicy. So basically it is a one sided
Speaker 3: audio roleplay. So for example, it's me talking and it's
Speaker 3: the listener can self insert themselves. So a lot of
Speaker 3: people find it easier to consume because there there isn't
Speaker 3: anything visual. They can picture whoever they want. Obviously I'm
Speaker 3: face out. People will know what I look like. They
Speaker 3: can picture whoever they want. They can look however they want,
Speaker 3: be whoever they want, and it's it's a fun outlet
Speaker 3: for that. So yeah, I think a radio play is
Speaker 3: the best way to describe it. We do collabse sometimes,
Speaker 3: so it'll be two voices, three four and then just
Speaker 3: you know, the listener does not speak. But yeah, that's
Speaker 3: that's the best way to describe it. I had never
Speaker 3: heard about it. When I heard about it, I was like, Wow,
Speaker 3: that's really cool.
Speaker 1: I had on Cubby Thompson and I asked her the question.
Speaker 1: One of the most beautiful people in the world. I
Speaker 1: asked her the question the calendars on her website. Does
Speaker 1: she order them in advance or do you place an
Speaker 1: order when you know how many purchases I've had on
Speaker 1: Lana Violet Amazing Born star Dominatrix. My question to her
Speaker 1: was do you need insurance when shooting scenes like that?
Speaker 1: So my question to you, and I legitimately think this
Speaker 1: is a good question, And everyone listening goes, oh, this
Speaker 1: guy's an actual idiot. Do you do fuley work as
Speaker 1: well during your thing? So?
Speaker 3: I have my folly for the most part pre recording
Speaker 3: so fully that I do live in every audio are
Speaker 3: bj sounds, kind of linga sounds, anything kind of like
Speaker 3: that I do. As I'm recording other things, I will
Speaker 3: record previously and we edit them in after. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I do a lot of my own fully work. A
Speaker 3: lot of people do. A lot of people make all
Speaker 3: of their sound efect. It's kind of like I do beforehand,
Speaker 3: and they have techniques for it. There's like there's a
Speaker 3: whole array of like tutorials that I've been given.
Speaker 2: It's crazy. Yeah, it's it's very in depth.
Speaker 1: It's no, it's so cool and I'm not just like
Speaker 1: like if it was you know, only kind of cool.
Speaker 1: I'd be like, oh, that's great for you. No, I'm
Speaker 1: actually like excited to learn about this. I got a
Speaker 1: new Patreon and go sign up for It's like good, Okay,
Speaker 1: when did you, oh say you were introduced to it?
Speaker 1: But when you first were introduced to it, were you like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, don't people want to see picture? Like
Speaker 1: did you have any reservations about it? Or did you
Speaker 1: just think great idea right away?
Speaker 3: So I had some reservations. I thought it was a
Speaker 3: great idea because there are people that I like loved
Speaker 3: listening to people with accents for example, or I can
Speaker 3: tell when someone has a really nice voice and I
Speaker 3: immediately be like, oh, yeah, that's nice. So I understood
Speaker 3: the concept. But initially I had really no interest in recording.
Speaker 3: I just kind of wanted to write because I found
Speaker 3: erotica online for the first time through fan fiction, so
Speaker 3: I'm a big fanfic person. I always wrote that, so
Speaker 3: I thought I can write scripts for this. This will
Speaker 3: be fun. And then someone suggested They're like, no, really,
Speaker 3: you should record. You should try it, trust me, And
Speaker 3: once I did, I was like, oh, I really like this.
Speaker 3: I have an acting kink, so I love acting that
Speaker 3: totally meets it. I also, many many years ago, people
Speaker 3: have always told me that my voice sounded like a
Speaker 3: phone sex operator, so I feel like I'm kind of
Speaker 3: fulfilling the prophecy for that. But yeah, I definitely did
Speaker 3: not think that I would enjoy it as much as
Speaker 3: I did, or that it would be as creatively fulfilling
Speaker 3: for me as it has been. But it totally is,
Speaker 3: and it's really nice. I love doing visual stuff and
Speaker 3: always will, but it is really nice sometimes just to
Speaker 3: wake up and be like, I think I'm going to
Speaker 3: be a pirate today, so I'm gonna go record this
Speaker 3: and I don't have to do anything to do bad.
Speaker 1: Let me have do you know It? All your demographics
Speaker 1: on Patreon only, because anytime I've interviewed a female performer
Speaker 1: who's really into like written literature, erotica type stuff, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: so do you know guys who are into that? And
Speaker 1: most of them are like, no, not really, or they
Speaker 1: tell me like, I do a lesbian video for me
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, that's so great is that and
Speaker 1: they go it's the worst seller, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: all right, well, guys are kind of typically, but are
Speaker 1: you finding you're also bringing women to things like your Patreon.
Speaker 1: Is it mostly men? Do you have any idea?
Speaker 3: It's it's mostly men I have. I have a smaller
Speaker 3: demographic of women or non binary or trans that listen
Speaker 3: to me. So I do make that content. I really should,
Speaker 3: and I say this all the time. I should make
Speaker 3: more of it. But my audience, again is mostly men
Speaker 3: that I have found. So yeah, I would love to
Speaker 3: have more because it's it's fun for me. I'm bisexual,
Speaker 3: so I like making audios for women in non binary
Speaker 3: and trans.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: It's I love it all I've done. I've done lots
Speaker 3: of audios like that, but definitely my main focus is
Speaker 3: usually male.
Speaker 1: Actually sure, I only say that because I think, I mean,
Speaker 1: I have such low opinion of men, and that's my
Speaker 1: own thing, because I have such a low opinion of
Speaker 1: myself that I think, like, you know, most guys would
Speaker 1: probably be like, oh, I need a visual, I need
Speaker 1: something to you. You have such good quality content. You're
Speaker 1: drawing them in and they can see you too. They
Speaker 1: know they can go find stuff with your face on
Speaker 1: your picture, and yet they still want to hear not
Speaker 1: just your voice but what you're writing, your your you know,
Speaker 1: oh is she going to do this in the story?
Speaker 1: Oh she did?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.
Speaker 3: It's really different because I myself, yeah, I would honestly
Speaker 3: think that men would prefer to have something visual. But
Speaker 3: I have found a lot of people not that they care,
Speaker 3: but I've had some people be like, I don't look
Speaker 3: at the places that you have, like your face, because
Speaker 3: I don't want to put a face to it, which
Speaker 3: is fine. I totally get it. That's that's totally fine.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it is. It's really interesting. I definitely when
Speaker 3: I first started doing this thought like this has got
Speaker 3: to like cap at some point, Like people have to
Speaker 3: like get tired of this at some point, right, I
Speaker 3: hope they don't. It's fun, but but no, people are
Speaker 3: really into it. And I've had some listeners who have
Speaker 3: been on my Patreon or like in my discord that
Speaker 3: have been there for like years since like I started,
Speaker 3: and it is.
Speaker 2: Something they really really enjoy.
Speaker 3: And I think the main part is is like there's
Speaker 3: nothing either to compare yourself to or that you have
Speaker 3: to like visualize, or maybe you don't really like this thing,
Speaker 3: but you have to look at it to enjoy it.
Speaker 2: It can literally be.
Speaker 1: Whatever let's would you mind, I want to go over
Speaker 1: one of your tweets and maybe we could delve into
Speaker 1: that deeper. Okay, yeah, totally September first, Okay, let's chat.
Speaker 1: I completely understand that some people have found me recently,
Speaker 1: but I have and face out and doing in real
Speaker 1: life content for five years. If you can't handle the
Speaker 1: duality of me or my character slash brand, no harm,
Speaker 1: no foul, I wish you the best. So first off,
Speaker 1: sweet message weird. I wouldn't think I personally, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: think like if I was only into audio wise and
Speaker 1: then I saw you and I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: because when I hear phone sex operator, I think Snickers
Speaker 1: wrappers and skin tags personally on a gorgeous voice. That's
Speaker 1: just my impression, because I know if I had a
Speaker 1: good voice, I would be trying to fool people. But
Speaker 1: you put the visual to it, I would think it
Speaker 1: would enhance it. But it seems like you do have
Speaker 1: some people who are like, no, it's it's.
Speaker 3: Mostly and I will be honest, and this is no
Speaker 3: offense to the YouTube crowd, but it is mostly people
Speaker 3: from YouTube who have found me through my completely safer
Speaker 3: work stuff. The people that find me through not safer
Speaker 3: work stuff are very accepting. They don't care, it's whatever.
Speaker 3: It's really the people that find me just for my
Speaker 3: like holy like safer work like audio role plays that
Speaker 3: have a real issue with it. And I don't really
Speaker 3: know why, but yeah, it's become a thing. Or I'll
Speaker 3: have people come over to my YouTube and like, oh
Speaker 3: have you seen her on Orange YouTube? Like it's not
Speaker 3: a secret, I'm not hiding it. I've always I've always guys.
Speaker 1: Are trying to like throw you under the bus, like
Speaker 1: hey bug, way you guys know she does this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a very puritanical thing. I've also had a
Speaker 3: like a YouTube model made to do that kind of
Speaker 3: like content in future, and I know that there is
Speaker 3: a thing in that, in that whole genre of people
Speaker 3: that they don't want to know what the person behind
Speaker 3: that looks like. So I think that I have, through
Speaker 3: doing safer work stuff, attracted people that are kind of
Speaker 3: in that mindset, which is totally fine. But yeah, it
Speaker 3: was getting to a certain point where I was like, Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm going to bring this up because it's actually starting
Speaker 3: to bother me.
Speaker 1: You sound like a person who does know what you're
Speaker 1: doing online though, Like you threw out a few different
Speaker 1: things in there that I went, I don't know what
Speaker 1: the fuck that is? Okay, keep smiling at her. Do
Speaker 1: you have to stay engaged online? Understand what new things
Speaker 1: are coming out, Understand which social media is the hot
Speaker 1: one right now? Do you have to stay on top
Speaker 1: of that stuff?
Speaker 2: I think so.
Speaker 3: I think that this is a job where you really
Speaker 3: do have to keep up with stuff to a certain degree.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: I know, and like people that I know that we
Speaker 3: try and like say, Okay, I have this much time
Speaker 3: online and then I will give myself a break, And
Speaker 3: that's really what I do, because I feel like if
Speaker 3: you're on all the time, it is detrimental to your
Speaker 3: mental health. But yeah, I kind of came to terms
Speaker 3: with it a couple of years ago that because of
Speaker 3: the nature of this job, you just have to be online.
Speaker 3: I know that people would say, like, oh, they're chronically online.
Speaker 3: We kind of have to be, because you do. You
Speaker 3: have to keep up with trends or new social media
Speaker 3: or this platform is and allowing this to anymore, so okay,
Speaker 3: we have to go remove it now.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, it's a lot to keep up with.
Speaker 1: I always ask this question that I don't think it
Speaker 1: will apply to you, but I go I normally ask like,
Speaker 1: did you realize that shooting porn was going to take
Speaker 1: up five percent of your day and the rest was
Speaker 1: social media, editing book? But it sounds like you may
Speaker 1: have had that. You might have known that coming into this.
Speaker 3: I had a little bit of an inkling, and yeah,
Speaker 3: it was kind of from doing the audio stuff, like, yeah,
Speaker 3: so this audio took me twenty minutes to record, for example,
Speaker 3: but it's going to take four hours to edit it.
Speaker 3: So I kind of had an idea going in. But
Speaker 3: when I first started doing all of this like online,
Speaker 3: because everything I had done up until that was in person.
Speaker 3: Dancing is obviously in person, so I had no idea.
Speaker 3: I had no idea. I thought it would be a
Speaker 3: lot quicker and you could just kind of like afterwards,
Speaker 3: like you know, go about your day. But no, you
Speaker 3: have to if you wanted to become a business over
Speaker 3: a hobby, you do really have to, like lock in.
Speaker 1: Do you think you could be as successful as you
Speaker 1: are now if for some reason you want it to
Speaker 1: take a step back from the in real life stuff.
Speaker 1: Do you think you could dedicate your time to your
Speaker 1: other stuff and then eventually build that and make it,
Speaker 1: you know, to fill in the other that you get
Speaker 1: from the IRL.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 3: I if I had never done like OnlyFans and had
Speaker 3: just stayed audio, I had made it a thing to
Speaker 3: like grind how I used to post like free audios
Speaker 3: like three times a week when I first started. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I know that if I really was like, you know what,
Speaker 3: I'm kind of sick of doing this, I'm just going
Speaker 3: to go back to doing only audio. I'm sure that
Speaker 3: I could one hundred percent. I'm one of those people though.
Speaker 3: I really do like being face out and doing that,
Speaker 3: so I'll definitely do it as long as I can really,
Speaker 3: But yeah, I have thought about that before, because there
Speaker 3: have been thoughts of like what if I get sick
Speaker 3: or like whatever. I do have like a plethora of
Speaker 3: audios that I could at least like supplement.
Speaker 1: Now I'm just a miserable old white guy, so I
Speaker 1: don't know what's going on in culture? Can you explain
Speaker 1: to me and my audience, which I assume they're probably
Speaker 1: just like middle aged guys as well. Good for you,
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Speaker 1: com slash snaky smutt so apologies want to get that
Speaker 1: in there? Good? Thank you. Let me ask this, how
Speaker 1: would you classify? Oh? Let me finish my question ASMR.
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about ASMR. I hear it sounds
Speaker 1: that people make and then you feel tangly and mostly
Speaker 1: that for me is dirty talk. So I don't know
Speaker 1: what ASMR is. I feel tangly once girls talk dirty
Speaker 1: to me. Can you explain to me and my audience
Speaker 1: what ASMR is and how it is applied in the
Speaker 1: adult entertainment industry or how you apply that? Sure?
Speaker 3: So ASMR how you just described it is exactly what
Speaker 3: it is. When it comes to the role plays like
Speaker 3: we're doing on YouTube, sometimes it is ASMR, but that
Speaker 3: is very whispery. You're doing like crinkly noises, it's binurmal
Speaker 3: so using like the three deal microphone going from ear
Speaker 3: to ear that kind of thing that is traditionally ASMR,
Speaker 3: and there are lots of role plays like that, but
Speaker 3: how we use the tag ASMR isn't really ASMR for
Speaker 3: the most part. It's just I don't know how that
Speaker 3: started or if it started the other way and kind
Speaker 3: of morphed into whatever. But now people who enjoy that
Speaker 3: just kind of take it as it's an audio roleplay.
Speaker 2: That's what it is.
Speaker 3: So yeah, and that's how it is on other sites
Speaker 3: like the hub everywhere. Because at first I was a
Speaker 3: little confused. I was like, this isn't this isn't ASMR,
Speaker 3: but it it is. It's just what they that's what
Speaker 3: they've called it.
Speaker 1: Gotcha, gotcha categorize did that way? Sorry? Regular as some
Speaker 1: more though, do you have you ever watched it? Then?
Speaker 1: Do you experience the feeling of gift? I've tried, but
Speaker 1: I've been.
Speaker 3: Like, it has to be specific people definitely, Yeah, I can't.
Speaker 3: I don't get it from everything. It's very it's specific videos.
Speaker 1: That I have found.
Speaker 3: I have a couple of friends who will do ASMR,
Speaker 3: like live on Twitch, and that'll get me. It's more
Speaker 3: so like the crinkly noises, the whispering doesn't really do
Speaker 3: it for me, but yeah, I have experienced it.
Speaker 2: I definitely have.
Speaker 3: I've done it in a couple of audios and listened
Speaker 3: back and been like, ooh, I feel the tingles.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm gonna have what is your least favorite sound?
Speaker 2: Ooh, least favorite sound?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Other people chewing? Oh, I can't stand it.
Speaker 1: Can die? Yeah they yeah, don't no, don't die. But
Speaker 1: like that makes me really angry. Not even just chewing though, too.
Speaker 1: Like I have to have music or TV on with
Speaker 1: my wife when we're eating only because and she not
Speaker 1: a mouth open eater or any of that.
Speaker 2: Right, it's just the noises, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's masticating whatever the term is. It's gross.
Speaker 2: I agree totally.
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about Okay, see again, guys, you
Speaker 1: have to check out the links in the episode description.
Speaker 1: She has so much. I'm trying to get into section
Speaker 1: two here about the content, and I go, where the
Speaker 1: fuck do I even start with this? I know there's
Speaker 1: so much we've talked about the audio. Let's talk about
Speaker 1: the erotic literature real quick? Yeah, what type? I mean?
Speaker 1: Are you just writing stories? I also used to like
Speaker 1: writing too, and then I found out it's a lot
Speaker 1: easier to talk into a microphone, which you do as well.
Speaker 1: I mean, my god, do you have any time for
Speaker 1: yourself in the day.
Speaker 3: I do surprisingly make time for myself. It's something that people,
Speaker 3: especially on my discorder, like, oh my god, do you
Speaker 3: ever rest? And I'm like, I do, I really do.
Speaker 3: It's it's probably how I don't burn out and can
Speaker 3: do as much as I do, because I really I
Speaker 3: take lots of breaks.
Speaker 2: People just don't see it. We're hear it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, writing wise, I don't get to freely creatively
Speaker 3: write as much as I used to. But I do
Speaker 3: have an ongoing fanfic that I write with one of
Speaker 3: my friends that I've been friends with in the audio
Speaker 3: sphere for a really long time, and we go back
Speaker 3: and forth at least once a month, and it's huge.
Speaker 2: It's long.
Speaker 3: Not anything we could ever make money off of, because
Speaker 3: obviously fanfic usually the characters belong to someone else. But
Speaker 3: it's just for fun. I used to write scripts quite
Speaker 3: a bit. You can still read them. I think there's
Speaker 3: like a link to them on my website. I don't
Speaker 3: really post them much anymore, just because I don't spend
Speaker 3: as much time on Reddit anymore where I started audio.
Speaker 3: But that was something that I really enjoyed because it's
Speaker 3: a nice way to write erotica quickly because you're not
Speaker 3: having to detail everything. It's just a one sided conversation.
Speaker 3: It makes things easier. But yeah, I love writing. It's
Speaker 3: one of the first things I ever found that I
Speaker 3: was good at. I won a bunch of awards long
Speaker 3: time ago, like in high school and stuff, but so
Speaker 3: I know I'm a good writer, and it is something like,
Speaker 3: one day in the future, once I've retired, I would
Speaker 3: love to write my own erotica and just like self published,
Speaker 3: that's the dream one day.
Speaker 1: Well, let me ask, is there any desire then to
Speaker 1: write out or do you ever write like scenes? Do
Speaker 1: you do dialogue in any of the stuff you may shoot,
Speaker 1: or you enjoy collaborating on or anything like that? Have
Speaker 1: you ever tried to sneak dialogue in somewhere with the collaboration,
Speaker 1: Like do you think maybe they should talk a little first.
Speaker 3: Or write to the fucking sorry go ahead, but no, no,
Speaker 3: you're fine, so funny enough. Ninety nine percent of the
Speaker 3: things that I do audio wise are improvised. I find
Speaker 3: it much easier to just sit and get in front
Speaker 3: of my microphone and I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna do this.
Speaker 2: Cool, I'm gonna gap.
Speaker 3: I used to write everything for myself or get free
Speaker 3: scripts or whatever. I have lots of friends that they
Speaker 3: pump out like ten audios a month, and they write
Speaker 3: scripts for every single one. I could never my ADHD
Speaker 3: would never allow it, So I improvise pretty much everything.
Speaker 3: When it comes to collabse, I will usually commission really
Speaker 3: really talented script writers from our kind of sphere to
Speaker 3: write it. I commission a few scripts every month just
Speaker 3: to give my brain a break. But yeah, there are
Speaker 3: a couple times every year where I get like a
Speaker 3: little bug that I want to write something for myself,
Speaker 3: so I do. But for the most part it's all improvised,
Speaker 3: which I know people are always like, wow, that's that's crazy,
Speaker 3: But it's the way that I do it.
Speaker 2: It's easier for me.
Speaker 1: It's definitely a little bit crazy, only because I feel
Speaker 1: like I would stubble stumble kind of halfway through and
Speaker 1: being shit, well what are they going to do now?
Speaker 1: Shirts off? Okay, all right, how about videos? Let's enter that.
Speaker 1: Where when did you decide? And again, according to this
Speaker 1: post you've been doing in real life content for five years.
Speaker 1: I wasn't. I wasn't aware, So I apologize for that.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, that's totally okay, and I mean by that.
Speaker 3: I started my Only Fans pretty shortly after starting my
Speaker 3: audio thing. So I started audio in like August of
Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, and then I started doing OnlyFans in July
Speaker 3: of twenty twenty, and it was just like, well, we're
Speaker 3: in lockdown and I already am like doing audio, so
Speaker 3: this would be fun. I never got to have an
Speaker 3: only fans when they first started, so yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 3: So that's when I started doing it. And I did
Speaker 3: like solo stuff for a really long time, just my
Speaker 3: own things. I would do a lot of videos that
Speaker 3: would be like pov so kind of like my audio.
Speaker 3: And then it was just in March of last year
Speaker 3: that my friend and I she's also in the audio community.
Speaker 3: Her name is looking for My Blue Sky, we decided,
Speaker 3: why don't we just get together and make a video.
Speaker 3: I don't think anybody from our little neck of the
Speaker 3: woods has done that yet, so we did, and I
Speaker 3: was like, oh, it's a lot of fun. So I'd
Speaker 3: say at the beginning of this year, I went to
Speaker 3: EXBIS for the first time, met a lot of people,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, you know what, I think I'm going
Speaker 3: to start doing it. So it's been May of this
Speaker 3: year that I started doing like irl stuff with partners,
Speaker 3: so like boy girl scenes, boy girl girl, that kind
Speaker 3: of stuff. But yeah, I've been doing like my own,
Speaker 3: like solo stuff for five years.
Speaker 1: So the first time though that you're deciding you're going
Speaker 1: to put your face out there and maybe you're not
Speaker 1: wearing any clothes with it, did you have Was it
Speaker 1: anxiety or excitement? Was it a mix of both? Was
Speaker 1: it more of one than the other? Like I think
Speaker 1: I would be elated that I'm gonna do something big,
Speaker 1: and then as soon as I hit submit, I and go,
Speaker 1: oh fuck, everyone's seen me now.
Speaker 3: So for me, I'm a bit of an exhibitionist and
Speaker 3: so I had no qualms, but I was excited to
Speaker 3: do it. I think that probably is from being a dancer.
Speaker 3: If I had never done that before and I had
Speaker 3: just done this, it would have been a mix of
Speaker 3: both for sure. But I think it was like, I've
Speaker 3: taken my clothes off for hundreds of people before, So whatever,
Speaker 3: you okay, let's all right, we've done we did the audio,
Speaker 3: we did literature.
Speaker 1: Let's do the only fans even more. Let's dive into
Speaker 1: that a little bit. You have a ton of stuff
Speaker 1: on there. Sometimes I'll click on like an established performers
Speaker 1: thing and I'll say, like four hundred things and there's
Speaker 1: a mix of you know, a couple of videos and
Speaker 1: this and that. You have thousands and thousands of pieces
Speaker 1: of content on there. Do you work on a regular
Speaker 1: update schedule? Is it something you break down? Is it well,
Speaker 1: I look out today, snap send it out? What is
Speaker 1: you like if I'm signing up at snaky smut, where
Speaker 1: what am I going to get out of this? Not
Speaker 1: that sounds really aggressive in it?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I totally know that makes sense.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: That's fine.
Speaker 3: So basically for filming for me, even when I was
Speaker 3: doing it like just myself, like not doing like photo
Speaker 3: shoots and having pictures, basically would block off like a
Speaker 3: day a week and uh, just film different stuff, change outfits,
Speaker 3: as I tell people, it's the best way to do it.
Speaker 3: And then that way you have like like four weeks
Speaker 3: of content if you really like space it out, or
Speaker 3: even if you post every day if you take enough pictures,
Speaker 3: you have tons of stuff for videos and stuff. I
Speaker 3: definitely would pick the day that I'm feeling Okay, I'm
Speaker 3: feeling it today, let's do it. I don't ever do
Speaker 3: anything if I'm not feeling it because I feel like
Speaker 3: it'll just it'll suck. I can tell that it's bad.
Speaker 3: I feel like other people could. So that's that's pretty
Speaker 3: much what I still do now these days, I do
Speaker 3: work with some photographers and just do like solo content.
Speaker 3: So now it's a little bit easier to be like, Okay,
Speaker 3: I have this, this and this, and then I can
Speaker 3: do one or two days a month where I'm like
Speaker 3: changing outfits and doing my own stuff. But that's how
Speaker 3: I built it up. So there's that much content. Is
Speaker 3: just I have days and I'm like, I'm feeling creative today,
Speaker 3: I'm going to go throw them up and do this.
Speaker 3: But that's the only way I've done that.
Speaker 1: So I see you shot a scene as I'm scrolling back,
Speaker 1: not very florure pinned one shot a scene with flesh mechanic, right,
Speaker 1: that's right, Uh huh, Okay, I have never met this gentleman,
Speaker 1: but as I'm watching this trailer, are you, Okay, this
Speaker 1: seems like an intense shoot, and how does a shoot
Speaker 1: like that? Is this outside of your personality and your
Speaker 1: comfort zone? Is this of pushing your limits or is
Speaker 1: this like right in your comfort zone and we all
Speaker 1: don't realize it. That's really in my comfort zone. And
Speaker 1: anybody that has listened to my audios for short time
Speaker 1: or long time, well know I can go from being
Speaker 1: very like vanilla and bubbly and sweet to like pretty
Speaker 1: hardcore like that, use me whatever, I'm just here, to
Speaker 1: being kind of dommy. I run the spectrum for that
Speaker 1: in particular, I know it was really intense as a
Speaker 1: flash Mechanic is one of the nicest people I like,
Speaker 1: And that's usually how it is.
Speaker 3: I tell people all the time, I do taboo content
Speaker 3: and we're all just regular people. We're not scary monsters
Speaker 3: like lurking in the shadows. For that scene in particular,
Speaker 3: because I did have a couple of people be like, WHOA,
Speaker 3: there is like an extensive talk beforehand we recorded. It's
Speaker 3: all very very consensual. Actually before we shot, he was like, Okay,
Speaker 3: do you want to do something like more chill today
Speaker 3: or are you feeling more like the rough vibe? And
Speaker 3: I literally said, do you leave stuff on here?
Speaker 1: Oh? You say whatever you want?
Speaker 2: Okay, okay.
Speaker 3: I literally was like, I would love to do something rough.
Speaker 3: I'm here to have fun. Fuck me up, and he
Speaker 3: was like, oh, okay, sure. So it is very much
Speaker 3: keeping on brand with me. I have some kinks that
Speaker 3: evenite people that listen to me all the time are like,
Speaker 3: I love your stuff, but I can't even do that, Like.
Speaker 1: Can I ask for one of those? Sure?
Speaker 3: Not that people wouldn't expect from you. Oh, okay, one
Speaker 3: they wouldn't expect.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I threw a purple at the end there.
Speaker 1: You can just tell me when you like, that's perfectly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, that's okay.
Speaker 3: So something that was in that that people do have
Speaker 3: a lot of problem with is face slapping. A lot
Speaker 3: of people have a big issue with that, and I
Speaker 3: totally get it. But what I try and tell people
Speaker 3: is like, the person in the scene who's doing this
Speaker 3: lapping has probably extensively trained and they know exactly where
Speaker 3: to do it, and it looks a lot worse than
Speaker 3: it actually is. It's really just the sound.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So that's when that people are always like, only.
Speaker 1: They don't know, you know what people sometimes have a
Speaker 1: problem differentiating in this industry and again preferences. My theory
Speaker 1: has always been is, as long as there's no kids
Speaker 1: or dogs in a room, I don't give a shit
Speaker 1: what consenting adults they're.
Speaker 2: On the same page. Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it may not be my thing. I might not
Speaker 1: be into it, but at the same I might think
Speaker 1: it's fucking weird, but I might. I'm not gonna throw
Speaker 1: it at you and be like your baby.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna keep shaming Yeah you do you do you?
Speaker 1: Okay? I think people might feel that way because there
Speaker 1: are some performers who, again not shaming them or anything,
Speaker 1: and I won't even call them out by name. Enjoy
Speaker 1: the stuff that crosses from rough into violent yea, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I say you stop at rough or yeah.
Speaker 3: I think I toe the line maybe just a little bit,
Speaker 3: but I definitely have not ventured over that, which I
Speaker 3: have no problem with people that do. But yeah, there
Speaker 3: are some people that are into like closed fist hitting.
Speaker 3: I have never done that. It's fun to watch, but yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't cross that line. There are certain ones that
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm not sure, do.
Speaker 1: You have any desire in the future to shoot for
Speaker 1: any of the big mainstream name sites. And I apologize.
Speaker 1: I've tried to look up your your past scenes on
Speaker 1: here in a middle. That's totally okay. Let's do a
Speaker 1: thing real quick. I like to call stat check, So
Speaker 1: stat check we use the Internet Adult Film Database. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: that doesn't include any of these scenes you shot over
Speaker 1: here or this or these people you worked with. It
Speaker 1: is dogshit numbers that make no sense to anyone, and
Speaker 1: they're not real, but they're a good marker because then
Speaker 1: when I have you on a year from now and
Speaker 1: you're like, now, I'm a billionaire and I have all
Speaker 1: these av and we can go, Hey, Victoria, remember back
Speaker 1: when you had shot in nine scenes on record? I
Speaker 1: have here males, you've worked with six females, you've worked
Speaker 1: with three, no AVN nominations and no wins yet. Correct, Yes,
Speaker 1: that's correct, all right, folks were back. We took a
Speaker 1: dog break real quick. I'm a cat person, so.
Speaker 2: I love to totally understand you.
Speaker 1: Also, as I'm scrolling through your Twitter, which I'll probably
Speaker 1: be doing just the rest of the night, your pictures,
Speaker 1: maakeup is top notch. Let me say that, thank you
Speaker 1: so much. That might be the single gayest thing I'll say.
Speaker 1: And my wife show back me up on it. Your
Speaker 1: make up beautiful, love it? Thank you? Uh?
Speaker 3: Can I ask how would you define your style? Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's a great question. I usually tell people my style
Speaker 3: is like goth bimbo. I'm very goth, but I also
Speaker 3: love wearing pink and like fluffy stuff, so yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: very like glam goth goth bimbo vibes.
Speaker 1: Yeah. See, I grew early two thousands. I would have
Speaker 1: said goth. I would have said punk, like that was
Speaker 1: my when I was like four.
Speaker 3: Kelly, Yeah, yes, I loved it. You all started somewhere.
Speaker 3: I started as a scene kid on MySpace, So it's
Speaker 3: the evolution.
Speaker 1: Sure, there you go. It's the great. Yeah, that's exactly it.
Speaker 1: Do you want to shoot for the mainstream guys, the
Speaker 1: big name sites? Like do you have a desire for that?
Speaker 1: Because you should leave you're so successful on your own,
Speaker 1: you know you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely I would love to. It's on my
Speaker 3: bucket list of things to do. I'm working on it
Speaker 3: fingers crossed because yeah, it would be really fun. That's
Speaker 3: you know, those are the places that I started watching,
Speaker 3: like real adult content. Like when I came of age,
Speaker 3: I had subscriptions to places as soon as I was
Speaker 3: able to. So yeah, I would love to. It's it's
Speaker 3: definitely it's high up on my to do list. But
Speaker 3: I also love just doing you know, collabs or people
Speaker 3: that do their own independent websites. Those are really really fun.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I would love to shoot with some of
Speaker 3: the studios for sure.
Speaker 1: Just don't say dot com at the end, But is
Speaker 1: there one site that you specifically have your eye on
Speaker 1: at all? I understand they're all wonderful, they're all great,
Speaker 1: and we're all anyone with the job opportunity. Yes, everyone
Speaker 1: with the job opportunity is phenomenal. We appreciate every one
Speaker 1: of them. But is there one? Really? Is there one
Speaker 1: where you go Victoria malfoy should be a blank girl.
Speaker 2: I would love to shoot with Team SKEI for sure.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, We did a special for them, me
Speaker 1: and my old co host with Kae Lovely one time.
Speaker 1: Very cool. They are phenomenal to deal with. I've never
Speaker 1: heard bad stuff. I'm sure there are stories probably somewhere.
Speaker 3: Someone has to so do really cool scenarios and tropes
Speaker 3: that I'll be like I never thought of that, Like,
Speaker 3: that's so fine.
Speaker 1: So that's my question to you, what do you think
Speaker 1: of the current niches and trends and everything else important.
Speaker 1: If you keep up on that, you seem like you
Speaker 1: keep I feel.
Speaker 3: Like I will say, I feel like, if you're gonna
Speaker 3: do this and be serious about it, you have to
Speaker 3: keep up with that stuff. You definitely do. Even when
Speaker 3: I started doing audio, those change so Like when I
Speaker 3: first started, monster girls were really popular, not so much anymore.
Speaker 3: During Lockdown it was family relations were really popular. That's
Speaker 3: always gonna be one that is because taboo stuff is
Speaker 3: always people love that. It's the oh, we shouldn't be
Speaker 3: doing this, But yeah, I think it's I think it's
Speaker 3: really cool to see that amateur stuff is getting more popular.
Speaker 3: I see that bump up every year on the Hub,
Speaker 3: like when they release the thing at the end of
Speaker 3: the year. I love that MILFs get so much attention.
Speaker 3: It's always one of those things that like, I was
Speaker 3: a teenager in the early two thousands and they very much.
Speaker 3: I'm sure you remember this made it seemed like after
Speaker 3: your twenty five, no one wants you.
Speaker 1: Well, Unfortunately, I think that might be more of a
Speaker 1: female thing.
Speaker 3: So it is definitely, but it was pushed on us
Speaker 3: so hard, like after you're thirty, it's over, and I
Speaker 3: think like getting older and seeing like, no, it's really not.
Speaker 3: And again, like you said, it's more of a they
Speaker 3: pushed that on like teenage girls. It's more of like
Speaker 3: a female thing. Yeah, men don't care. They love it,
Speaker 3: So I'm always super happy to see that. Yeah, those
Speaker 3: are the two that really stick out to me because
Speaker 3: when I first started watching videos, amateur stuff was the
Speaker 3: easiest to find and consume. And I still love watching
Speaker 3: it because you can tell like they're really into it.
Speaker 3: They're having fun, which is the thing that I look
Speaker 3: for at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm excited every single year to see what
Speaker 3: is popular because it's never anything that I think it's
Speaker 3: going to be. And I love going state by state
Speaker 3: to see what the people in that state are into.
Speaker 1: I like doing that too, especially when they publish it
Speaker 1: at the end. I enjoy that. Uh, you know, I
Speaker 1: have a trend that I in my head. I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna Stumper on this one. I'm gonna ask her
Speaker 1: how she would do an erotic fantasy about this topic.
Speaker 1: Or niche. Oh I love it, but I think I
Speaker 1: figured it out. So if you don't figure it out,
Speaker 1: I think I have an answer. Okay, how would you
Speaker 1: do a free use for all of that? Okay?
Speaker 3: Yeah, free use is a very popular trope, especially in audio.
Speaker 2: I've done a lot of that.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: So one of my favorite ways to do it, and
Speaker 3: one that I think a lot of people it's warm
Speaker 3: palatable for them, is like having a partner. So for example,
Speaker 3: one of the role plays I've done is like boyfriend
Speaker 3: girlfriend girlfriend has a pair of panties that she wears
Speaker 3: when it's free use weekend, and you see those and
Speaker 3: you know you can do it whenever you want. And
Speaker 3: that is like people really like that when it's very like,
Speaker 3: oh this isn't scary or weird, like somebody don't.
Speaker 2: Know, it's easy today.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: If I had a girlfriend and like or my girlfriend
Speaker 2: did this, okay, I can get on board with that.
Speaker 2: Other ways that.
Speaker 3: I've done that is I've done once where it's kind
Speaker 3: of like professor student vibe like teaching assistant, like you're
Speaker 3: gonna give me a better grade and you can do
Speaker 3: whatever you want whenever you want to do it, and
Speaker 3: I think it's hot. Both are the ways that I've
Speaker 3: done it. I've seen it done a million different ways
Speaker 3: from all types of other performers, but yeah, that's one
Speaker 3: of those. I really like it, And I had no
Speaker 3: idea that was the thing until I started doing audio I.
Speaker 1: See and that first. When I saw for you stuff,
Speaker 1: I was like, how do I feel about this? Because
Speaker 1: there are to me, there are a lot of different
Speaker 1: ways to interpret it. So of course you could interpret
Speaker 1: it as dominant male coming to take what he wants
Speaker 1: and walk on and whatever. You can also take it
Speaker 1: in the way I took it, dominant female, who I
Speaker 1: don't even need I'm not even worried about this guy.
Speaker 1: I'm fucking paying bills right now. Okay, he's throwing it
Speaker 1: in me. I'm not even going to pay attention whatever.
Speaker 1: I think that was my thing where I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: there's a lot less anxiety on performance if she doesn't
Speaker 1: know I exist done. How do you interpret for you?
Speaker 1: Do you is it a give and take depends like
Speaker 1: or do you like the idea of a guy taking
Speaker 1: kind of Yes, I.
Speaker 2: Just like the idea that it's this.
Speaker 3: Scenario where either or party has this Like for me,
Speaker 3: especially if I'm in more of like the submissive parts,
Speaker 3: like this is fun, Like I'm in control. You can
Speaker 3: do whatever you want, but I'm letting you do it.
Speaker 3: I'm giving you this to you to let you have fun.
Speaker 3: So I love that aspect of it. I also like
Speaker 3: the one of it's like kind of like you said,
Speaker 3: dominant mail, like, oh, I'm going to take this whatever.
Speaker 3: I like free use too, because it's it goes up
Speaker 3: to the line of kind of like non con or
Speaker 3: CNC without having to go over it because it's usually
Speaker 3: discussed or another way that I've done it or seen
Speaker 3: it done where it's like it's world building. So there's
Speaker 3: world building where it's like it's a free use world.
Speaker 3: People were just this is how everybody lives. Everybody's used
Speaker 3: to it. And I love that one because then you
Speaker 3: can basically start any scenario you want and it makes
Speaker 3: sense because oh, everybody does this.
Speaker 1: That's interesting. I never consider the free use atmosphere or
Speaker 1: the whole environment type.
Speaker 2: It's so cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So let's wrap this up with a few cup
Speaker 1: questions here, Where are we going? Where do you see
Speaker 1: your career moving forward? You said you're very interested in
Speaker 1: moving into more mainstream stuff. You're very successful on your own, right.
Speaker 1: Do you see yourself hitting a dollar goal and going
Speaker 1: I'm done. Do you see yourself one day at forty
Speaker 1: going I just don't feel like doing this anymore? Or
Speaker 1: do you see yourself making guilt point? I interviewed D. D.
Speaker 1: White formally SAKEO my Gosvin b One. She still as
Speaker 1: what she refers to as BBC gang Bangs, that's what
Speaker 1: she calls it. And I am blown away at this
Speaker 1: woman's desire and ability to keep working.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm so impressed by that, and that is kind
Speaker 3: of where I'm at. I have no age or number
Speaker 3: that I think I'll stop at. I think one day
Speaker 3: it'll just be one of those things where I'm like,
Speaker 3: this isn't really doing it for me anymore. But what
Speaker 3: I love about this job is like that doesn't even
Speaker 3: matter because everything that I've made, I can leave it
Speaker 3: up and people can enjoy it forever. That's one of
Speaker 3: the reasons why I've liked making so much content is
Speaker 3: I'm like, I, honestly, could you know, go way for
Speaker 3: a year or whatever, and people still have tons of
Speaker 3: stuff to enjoy or go through or whatever. So I
Speaker 3: don't have a specific age that I'll stop. I could
Speaker 3: be one. Honestly, it would be cool to be seventy
Speaker 3: and still being able to like do this. I would
Speaker 3: love that. My my like immediate goals are I would
Speaker 3: love to do stuff like that's more mainstream. I tell
Speaker 3: you all the time. Audio is always going to be
Speaker 3: my number one just because I have built such a
Speaker 3: loyal I hate calling them. I like calling them like
Speaker 3: listeners or whatever. I've built such a following and a
Speaker 3: listening like fan base of people that enjoy it that
Speaker 3: I would never stop. It's one of the reasons I
Speaker 3: made my website so that people would like easily search
Speaker 3: for things and find it. So yeah, I really would
Speaker 3: just love to take that further. I would love to
Speaker 3: make it more known to people. It's one of the
Speaker 3: reasons I started putting audios on like the hub uh
Speaker 3: and there are so many other people doing that, and
Speaker 3: I think it's awesome because other people get to see, Oh,
Speaker 3: there's another type of media that I can enjoy if
Speaker 3: I can't do visual stuff. So yeah, I only want
Speaker 3: to go up. It's like I'm world domination. That's what
Speaker 3: I tell people. I'm joking, but just a little do
Speaker 3: you okay?
Speaker 1: So do you have any concerns about AI because you
Speaker 1: already have your established fan base? Right, Oh, let's just
Speaker 1: say I can get a voice generator and a chat
Speaker 1: GPT that does dirty talk and whatever could I create? Again,
Speaker 1: You are good, I believe, because you've already established your
Speaker 1: fan base. They know what they're getting from you. They
Speaker 1: have a personal connection with you, which makes it different.
Speaker 1: But do you think someone could go out there and
Speaker 1: kind of throw on some AI slop and be successful?
Speaker 3: In my opinion, no, I think AI is garbage. I
Speaker 3: think AI is great for certain things like building things.
Speaker 3: Ever for artists, I think it's it's garbage.
Speaker 2: I've had.
Speaker 3: I've had my voice stolen once for something. I had
Speaker 3: it taken down. I don't like it. I think, especially
Speaker 3: for audio, it's never gonna be good. Yeah, you can
Speaker 3: make it say whatever you wanted to say, but it
Speaker 3: has no personality, no feeling, no emotion behind it. It's
Speaker 3: just it's a computer. And you know, if people enjoy
Speaker 3: that whatever, I'm not gonna knock it, but it's never
Speaker 3: gonna be as good. In my opinion, I don't think
Speaker 3: it will. I also think it's lazy. If you're a
Speaker 3: creator and you're like, oh, I don't I don't like
Speaker 3: my voice I'm gonna do then don't do it.
Speaker 2: Then don't do it. I also think the same thing
Speaker 2: about pictures.
Speaker 3: I see AI like, uh, onlyfan stuff, and I'm just like,
Speaker 3: this is so either take the picture yourself or don't
Speaker 3: the way around that, Like, if you you know you
Speaker 3: want to do visual stuff but you don't want people
Speaker 3: to know who you are. I highly implore people to
Speaker 3: do like a vtube model, And there are people that do.
Speaker 3: It's called lude tubing and people do that, and you
Speaker 3: can make it naked, you can do whatever. There are
Speaker 3: certain ways.
Speaker 1: Gosh, I'll be honest with it. Even you're good you
Speaker 1: can't hear it. I don't think it's isolated. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: if it's bothering you, definitely I can.
Speaker 2: If you can't. If you can't hear it, I will
Speaker 2: talk through it, Okay.
Speaker 3: So in regards to like pictures and stuff like that,
Speaker 3: I also think that's that's garbage. I don't think that
Speaker 3: it's ever going to give people the same kind of
Speaker 3: connection that you're going to get from a human who's
Speaker 3: making something, drawing something, recording something. It's never it's never
Speaker 3: going to be the same, so I worry. I know
Speaker 3: that someone could technically take my voice, take my picture.
Speaker 3: I've had it happen with my voice. I've had it
Speaker 3: happen with the art that I commission. If my character
Speaker 3: it happens, it looks, in my opinion, like shit, sounds
Speaker 3: like shit. So I'm not worried about it, but I
Speaker 3: know it is a thing, and it is something that
Speaker 3: a lot of us, especially in audio, worried about, like
Speaker 3: what if someone gets us in It actually sounds close
Speaker 3: and makes me say something crazy.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Hope that it doesn't get that way anytime soon, and
Speaker 3: people use AI for different things. But yeah, it is
Speaker 3: a worry. Definitely worry about it. It's one of the
Speaker 3: reasons I got lawyers.
Speaker 1: Last question. This is an odd one only because you
Speaker 1: would think people that are in this industry would have
Speaker 1: the common answer, and instead I get a different common answer.
Speaker 1: So again, no judgment. It's just strictly a question like
Speaker 1: a whatever something, how you feel, what age should it?
Speaker 1: What age should women be to be able to get
Speaker 1: into this industry? And we'll run through it at the end,
Speaker 1: but you tell me what do you think and if
Speaker 1: you have a thought process on that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I have a couple of different thought processes
Speaker 3: in one side of my brain. I think twenty one
Speaker 3: and up is probably smartest. However, I do know that
Speaker 3: when I was like younger and didn't have a means
Speaker 3: to make money right away, Like I talked about it
Speaker 3: at the beginning of this that I was nineteen when
Speaker 3: I started, so I was able to pay my bills
Speaker 3: and do whatever. And I know for a lot of
Speaker 3: people dancing things like that, making and only fans, it
Speaker 3: is out of necessity.
Speaker 2: They need to do it.
Speaker 3: It isn't like they like doing it, I'm sure, but
Speaker 3: like it is to pay the bills. So for that,
Speaker 3: I always stick with eighteen because I know I've been there,
Speaker 3: I've had friends that have been there, and it is
Speaker 3: it's a way to get yourself out of the hole.
Speaker 2: Sometimes that is.
Speaker 1: That that is like the most common thing. It's it's
Speaker 1: the it's the performer telling me twenty one and then struggle,
Speaker 1: not that you did, but struggling to realize, like, hey,
Speaker 1: there are there are others that What it always comes
Speaker 1: down to is maturity, right, Oh, totally, yeah, you were.
Speaker 1: I also do a side show where I interview new
Speaker 1: performers coming into the industry, and a horror story I
Speaker 1: heard eighteen year old girl. And it's not as, it's
Speaker 1: not graphics, so it's just right right, like I'm not
Speaker 1: going to hit you with something horrendous here, But no,
Speaker 1: I didn't think So he flew across the country on
Speaker 1: her own dime because she would be reimbursed, got to
Speaker 1: the hotel where she'd be reimbursed. Eighteen year old girl.
Speaker 1: Guy just never picked up the phone after that, never
Speaker 1: answered again. And you go, well, look, I know thirty
Speaker 1: year olds who could fall for that too.
Speaker 3: So eight of course it happened to people in their
Speaker 3: twenties and their thirty stories. It happens to people all
Speaker 3: the time. You have people ghost you, flake on you, whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it happens all the time. It's not because they're eighteen.
Speaker 1: We came to kind of a consensus, and I'm not
Speaker 1: asking you to join in with this Consensu's just you know,
Speaker 1: where every time I asked this, maybe only one for hardcore, okay, eighteen,
Speaker 1: nineteen twenty, you could do solo, you could do only
Speaker 1: it's not meant.
Speaker 2: To limit that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, sure, it's more just a safety concern.
Speaker 3: And again, look and honestly I think I mean I
Speaker 3: would get on. I think that makes sense. It makes
Speaker 3: total sense because you know, until I was probably like
Speaker 3: twenty two or twenty three, I don't think I would
Speaker 3: have done like irl stuff like with a partner, because
Speaker 3: I was like, hmm, am I going to be the
Speaker 3: way that I want to be in the scene has
Speaker 3: nothing to do with them. So yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 3: It is definitely an emotional maturity thing.
Speaker 2: That's sure.
Speaker 1: Sure, let's not make it a law, but.
Speaker 2: Let's let's yeah, let's.
Speaker 1: Convey to people, hey, maybe starting this slow if you
Speaker 1: really want to make it a career.
Speaker 2: Totally I agree with that for sure.
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Speaker 2: I know it's a tongue twister.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's not that my mouth is just dry.
Speaker 1: I'm tired, but I have loved talking to you. You
Speaker 1: are so insighted.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, thank you. It's been so much fun.
Speaker 1: You're not terrible to look at, which is a very
Speaker 1: nice thing at the end of the day. And I
Speaker 1: just I think you are so fascinating in such a
Speaker 1: creative You've.
Speaker 2: Made it my day. Thank you so much, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: Victoria Malfoy, Victoria, thank you so much for coming on
Speaker 1: with me and night so much for having me.
Speaker 2: I hope we get to come back sometimes