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<v Speaker 1>Victoria Malfoy, my guest for the evening. You know exactly

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<v Speaker 1>where you can find her at snaky Smut. Links to

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<v Speaker 1>all of our social media are in the episode description,

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<v Speaker 1>but I want to send you over to her patreon,

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<v Speaker 1>patreon dot com slash snaky smut. What you're gonna find

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<v Speaker 1>there is audio content and we're going to dive into

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<v Speaker 1>that today. Please make sure you support the content creators

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<v Speaker 1>who come on the show, Otherwise they don't come on

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<v Speaker 1>the show anymore. Victoria, it's a pleasure to have you

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<v Speaker 1>on tonight. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a pleasure to be here. Thanks so much for

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<v Speaker 2>having me.

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<v Speaker 1>So I normally start with the question everyone starts with,

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<v Speaker 1>but I want to do it a little differently because

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<v Speaker 1>I have a different one to start. What to be

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<v Speaker 1>going with? Okay, how do you define your job title?

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<v Speaker 3>I to find my job title is I wear mini hats.

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<v Speaker 3>I do lots of different things, but I kind of

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<v Speaker 3>keep myself under the umbrella of adult entertainer.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, yeah, adult entertainer and the adult content creator.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe also also that too, Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>So now let's go to my actual number one question here.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you initially decide to get into the adult

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<v Speaker 1>entertainment industry. What was the last hurdle you went over

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<v Speaker 1>and went fuck it, new job.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's a really it's kind of an interesting story.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been in the adult entertainment industry off and on

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<v Speaker 3>for like almost fifteen years. My initial start in it

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<v Speaker 3>was around twenty eleven. I had just moved from my

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<v Speaker 3>home state and I had moved to a new place.

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<v Speaker 3>I was perfectly happy to start my vanilla job that

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<v Speaker 3>I had all lined up, and then circumstances happened and

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<v Speaker 3>I needed money like quick. So the first thing in

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<v Speaker 3>my head was, I thought strip clubs always have like

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<v Speaker 3>amateur night. But that is not a thing that happens

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<v Speaker 3>very often, I have learned. So one of my friends

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<v Speaker 3>hooked me up with a interview at Cheetahs, and that

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<v Speaker 3>pretty much kicked everything off. I've always been a very

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<v Speaker 3>sexual persons never bothered me, so I kind of took

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<v Speaker 3>to it like a fish to water, and that was

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<v Speaker 3>my jumping off point. And then I've been off and on,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I would say, probably luckily a few minutes

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<v Speaker 3>or a few minutes a few months before COVID started,

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<v Speaker 3>I was introduced to the wonderful world of audio erotica,

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<v Speaker 3>and I dove into that and that's been kind of

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<v Speaker 3>the catalyst for everything ever since. I've have never had

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<v Speaker 3>a vanilla job since then, and I'm happy about it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's great. I'm really blessed. I get to do this

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<v Speaker 3>all the time. That's super creative. But yeah, that's basically

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<v Speaker 3>how it started, stopped, restarted.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, and then I through doing.

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<v Speaker 3>Audio, I moved into doing visual because I'd always done

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<v Speaker 3>that previously, even before OnlyFans was around. So adding that

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<v Speaker 3>and then the past, oh, I guess since May I

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<v Speaker 3>have done more of the IRL stuff with other partners,

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<v Speaker 3>and yeah, that's kind of where I'm at now.

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<v Speaker 1>So you said twenty eleven is when you start on this.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me say, if people are just listening to this

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<v Speaker 1>and not watching the video, I literally crunched the numbers

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<v Speaker 1>in my head and I went, was she ten years old?

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<v Speaker 1>How does this work? You look phenomenal. Whatever age you are,

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<v Speaker 1>I will not ask you look amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much. I don't tell my exact age.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in my thirties, but thank you. I really appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't know you, and there's so much to

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<v Speaker 1>dive into. So I reached down and I was talking

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<v Speaker 1>to one of the PR people. They recommended you, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be honest, I was ready to wrap for my season.

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<v Speaker 1>My wife and I always take a vacation at Halloween.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you'll like this. Maybe are you? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>a halloween person? I am.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a spooky person. I can't see it. I have

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<v Speaker 2>horror stuff all behind me.

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<v Speaker 1>You want that where do we go for Halloween? You

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<v Speaker 1>tell me? I would think Salem. You Salem, Massachusetts every year?

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<v Speaker 1>Room great? And then I look through. I go, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>she's hot. But like I've you know, talked to a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of hot girls. Let's see, and I go, what

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<v Speaker 1>the hell does she do? This is awesome? She does

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<v Speaker 1>some really incredible stuff. What is your whole audio? You say? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what did you say in there? You said something where

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<v Speaker 1>you were like I was introduced to the world of

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<v Speaker 1>audio literature erotica type yeah, and I went like this, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I was interested to introduce to it about thirty eight

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<v Speaker 1>minutes ago. So you know that's interesting. Can you tell

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<v Speaker 1>me what it is?

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<v Speaker 2>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>I get the concept of it, but yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's really exciting.

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<v Speaker 3>I love talking about it because it's it's just now

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<v Speaker 3>becoming more i'd say mainstream, like people kind of know

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<v Speaker 3>what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I had no idea what it was.

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<v Speaker 3>So the way I describe it to people is it

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<v Speaker 3>is like a radio play is from back in the day,

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<v Speaker 3>but they're spicy. So basically it is a one sided

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<v Speaker 3>audio roleplay. So for example, it's me talking and it's

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<v Speaker 3>the listener can self insert themselves. So a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people find it easier to consume because there there isn't

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<v Speaker 3>anything visual. They can picture whoever they want. Obviously I'm

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<v Speaker 3>face out. People will know what I look like. They

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<v Speaker 3>can picture whoever they want. They can look however they want,

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<v Speaker 3>be whoever they want, and it's it's a fun outlet

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<v Speaker 3>for that. So yeah, I think a radio play is

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<v Speaker 3>the best way to describe it. We do collabse sometimes,

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<v Speaker 3>so it'll be two voices, three four and then just

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the listener does not speak. But yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 3>that's the best way to describe it. I had never

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<v Speaker 3>heard about it. When I heard about it, I was like, Wow,

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<v Speaker 3>that's really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I had on Cubby Thompson and I asked her the question.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the most beautiful people in the world. I

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<v Speaker 1>asked her the question the calendars on her website. Does

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<v Speaker 1>she order them in advance or do you place an

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<v Speaker 1>order when you know how many purchases I've had on

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<v Speaker 1>Lana Violet Amazing Born star Dominatrix. My question to her

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<v Speaker 1>was do you need insurance when shooting scenes like that?

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<v Speaker 1>So my question to you, and I legitimately think this

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<v Speaker 1>is a good question, And everyone listening goes, oh, this

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<v Speaker 1>guy's an actual idiot. Do you do fuley work as

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<v Speaker 1>well during your thing? So?

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<v Speaker 3>I have my folly for the most part pre recording

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<v Speaker 3>so fully that I do live in every audio are

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<v Speaker 3>bj sounds, kind of linga sounds, anything kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>that I do. As I'm recording other things, I will

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<v Speaker 3>record previously and we edit them in after. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I do a lot of my own fully work. A

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people do. A lot of people make all

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<v Speaker 3>of their sound efect. It's kind of like I do beforehand,

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<v Speaker 3>and they have techniques for it. There's like there's a

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<v Speaker 3>whole array of like tutorials that I've been given.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy. Yeah, it's it's very in depth.

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<v Speaker 1>It's no, it's so cool and I'm not just like

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<v Speaker 1>like if it was you know, only kind of cool.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, oh, that's great for you. No, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>actually like excited to learn about this. I got a

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<v Speaker 1>new Patreon and go sign up for It's like good, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>when did you, oh say you were introduced to it?

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<v Speaker 1>But when you first were introduced to it, were you like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, don't people want to see picture? Like

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<v Speaker 1>did you have any reservations about it? Or did you

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<v Speaker 1>just think great idea right away?

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<v Speaker 3>So I had some reservations. I thought it was a

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<v Speaker 3>great idea because there are people that I like loved

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<v Speaker 3>listening to people with accents for example, or I can

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<v Speaker 3>tell when someone has a really nice voice and I

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<v Speaker 3>immediately be like, oh, yeah, that's nice. So I understood

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<v Speaker 3>the concept. But initially I had really no interest in recording.

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<v Speaker 3>I just kind of wanted to write because I found

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<v Speaker 3>erotica online for the first time through fan fiction, so

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a big fanfic person. I always wrote that, so

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<v Speaker 3>I thought I can write scripts for this. This will

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<v Speaker 3>be fun. And then someone suggested They're like, no, really,

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<v Speaker 3>you should record. You should try it, trust me, And

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<v Speaker 3>once I did, I was like, oh, I really like this.

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<v Speaker 3>I have an acting kink, so I love acting that

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<v Speaker 3>totally meets it. I also, many many years ago, people

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<v Speaker 3>have always told me that my voice sounded like a

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<v Speaker 3>phone sex operator, so I feel like I'm kind of

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<v Speaker 3>fulfilling the prophecy for that. But yeah, I definitely did

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<v Speaker 3>not think that I would enjoy it as much as

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<v Speaker 3>I did, or that it would be as creatively fulfilling

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<v Speaker 3>for me as it has been. But it totally is,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's really nice. I love doing visual stuff and

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<v Speaker 3>always will, but it is really nice sometimes just to

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<v Speaker 3>wake up and be like, I think I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>be a pirate today, so I'm gonna go record this

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't have to do anything to do bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me have do you know It? All your demographics

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<v Speaker 1>on Patreon only, because anytime I've interviewed a female performer

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<v Speaker 1>who's really into like written literature, erotica type stuff, I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>so do you know guys who are into that? And

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<v Speaker 1>most of them are like, no, not really, or they

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<v Speaker 1>tell me like, I do a lesbian video for me

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, oh, that's so great is that and

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<v Speaker 1>they go it's the worst seller, and I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, well, guys are kind of typically, but are

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<v Speaker 1>you finding you're also bringing women to things like your Patreon.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it mostly men? Do you have any idea?

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's mostly men I have. I have a smaller

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<v Speaker 3>demographic of women or non binary or trans that listen

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<v Speaker 3>to me. So I do make that content. I really should,

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<v Speaker 3>and I say this all the time. I should make

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<v Speaker 3>more of it. But my audience, again is mostly men

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<v Speaker 3>that I have found. So yeah, I would love to

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<v Speaker 3>have more because it's it's fun for me. I'm bisexual,

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<v Speaker 3>so I like making audios for women in non binary

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<v Speaker 3>and trans.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>It's I love it all I've done. I've done lots

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<v Speaker 3>of audios like that, but definitely my main focus is

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<v Speaker 3>usually male.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually sure, I only say that because I think, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I have such low opinion of men, and that's my

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<v Speaker 1>own thing, because I have such a low opinion of

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<v Speaker 1>myself that I think, like, you know, most guys would

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<v Speaker 1>probably be like, oh, I need a visual, I need

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<v Speaker 1>something to you. You have such good quality content. You're

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<v Speaker 1>drawing them in and they can see you too. They

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<v Speaker 1>know they can go find stuff with your face on

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<v Speaker 1>your picture, and yet they still want to hear not

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<v Speaker 1>just your voice but what you're writing, your your you know,

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<v Speaker 1>oh is she going to do this in the story?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh she did?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really different because I myself, yeah, I would honestly

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<v Speaker 3>think that men would prefer to have something visual. But

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<v Speaker 3>I have found a lot of people not that they care,

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<v Speaker 3>but I've had some people be like, I don't look

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<v Speaker 3>at the places that you have, like your face, because

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it is. It's really interesting. I definitely when

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<v Speaker 3>hope they don't. It's fun, but but no, people are

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<v Speaker 3>And I think the main part is is like there's

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<v Speaker 2>It can literally be.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever let's would you mind, I want to go over

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<v Speaker 1>that deeper. Okay, yeah, totally September first, Okay, let's chat.

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<v Speaker 1>I completely understand that some people have found me recently,

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<v Speaker 1>but I have and face out and doing in real

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<v Speaker 1>duality of me or my character slash brand, no harm,

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<v Speaker 1>no foul, I wish you the best. So first off,

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<v Speaker 1>sweet message weird. I wouldn't think I personally, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>think like if I was only into audio wise and

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<v Speaker 1>then I saw you and I'm like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>wrappers and skin tags personally on a gorgeous voice. That's

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<v Speaker 1>just my impression, because I know if I had a

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<v Speaker 1>you put the visual to it, I would think it

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<v Speaker 3>Mostly and I will be honest, and this is no

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<v Speaker 3>offense to the YouTube crowd, but it is mostly people

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<v Speaker 3>from YouTube who have found me through my completely safer

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<v Speaker 3>work stuff. The people that find me through not safer

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<v Speaker 3>work stuff are very accepting. They don't care, it's whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really the people that find me just for my

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<v Speaker 3>like holy like safer work like audio role plays that

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<v Speaker 3>know why, but yeah, it's become a thing. Or I'll

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<v Speaker 3>have people come over to my YouTube and like, oh

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<v Speaker 3>have you seen her on Orange YouTube? Like it's not

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<v Speaker 3>a secret, I'm not hiding it. I've always I've always guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Are trying to like throw you under the bus, like

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a very puritanical thing. I've also had a

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<v Speaker 3>like a YouTube model made to do that kind of

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<v Speaker 3>like content in future, and I know that there is

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<v Speaker 3>a thing in that, in that whole genre of people

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<v Speaker 3>that they don't want to know what the person behind

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<v Speaker 3>that looks like. So I think that I have, through

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<v Speaker 3>doing safer work stuff, attracted people that are kind of

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<v Speaker 3>in that mindset, which is totally fine. But yeah, it

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<v Speaker 3>was getting to a certain point where I was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>You sound like a person who does know what you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing online though, Like you threw out a few different

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<v Speaker 1>things in there that I went, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>the fuck that is? Okay, keep smiling at her. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you have to stay engaged online? Understand what new things

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<v Speaker 1>are coming out, Understand which social media is the hot

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<v Speaker 1>one right now? Do you have to stay on top

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<v Speaker 1>of that stuff?

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<v Speaker 3>I think that this is a job where you really

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<v Speaker 3>do have to keep up with stuff to a certain degree.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, and like people that I know that we

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<v Speaker 3>try and like say, Okay, I have this much time

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<v Speaker 3>that's really what I do, because I feel like if

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<v Speaker 3>you're on all the time, it is detrimental to your

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<v Speaker 3>mental health. But yeah, I kind of came to terms

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<v Speaker 3>with it a couple of years ago that because of

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<v Speaker 3>the nature of this job, you just have to be online.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that people would say, like, oh, they're chronically online.

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<v Speaker 3>We kind of have to be, because you do. You

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<v Speaker 3>have to keep up with trends or new social media

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<v Speaker 3>or this platform is and allowing this to anymore, so okay,

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<v Speaker 3>we have to go remove it now.

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<v Speaker 2>So, yeah, it's a lot to keep up with.

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<v Speaker 1>I always ask this question that I don't think it

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<v Speaker 1>will apply to you, but I go I normally ask like,

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<v Speaker 1>did you realize that shooting porn was going to take

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<v Speaker 1>up five percent of your day and the rest was

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<v Speaker 1>social media, editing book? But it sounds like you may

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<v Speaker 1>have had that. You might have known that coming into this.

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<v Speaker 3>I had a little bit of an inkling, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it was kind of from doing the audio stuff, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so this audio took me twenty minutes to record, for example,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's going to take four hours to edit it.

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<v Speaker 3>So I kind of had an idea going in. But

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<v Speaker 3>when I first started doing all of this like online,

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<v Speaker 3>because everything I had done up until that was in person.

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<v Speaker 3>Dancing is obviously in person, so I had no idea.

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<v Speaker 3>I had no idea. I thought it would be a

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<v Speaker 3>lot quicker and you could just kind of like afterwards,

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, go about your day. But no, you

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<v Speaker 3>have to if you wanted to become a business over

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<v Speaker 3>a hobby, you do really have to, like lock in.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think you could be as successful as you

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<v Speaker 1>are now if for some reason you want it to

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<v Speaker 1>take a step back from the in real life stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think you could dedicate your time to your

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<v Speaker 1>other stuff and then eventually build that and make it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to fill in the other that you get

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<v Speaker 1>from the IRL.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I if I had never done like OnlyFans and had

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<v Speaker 3>just stayed audio, I had made it a thing to

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<v Speaker 3>like grind how I used to post like free audios

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<v Speaker 3>like three times a week when I first started. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I know that if I really was like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 3>to go back to doing only audio. I'm sure that

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<v Speaker 3>I could one hundred percent. I'm one of those people though.

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<v Speaker 3>I really do like being face out and doing that,

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<v Speaker 3>so I'll definitely do it as long as I can really,

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I have thought about that before, because there

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<v Speaker 3>have been thoughts of like what if I get sick

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<v Speaker 3>or like whatever. I do have like a plethora of

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<v Speaker 3>audios that I could at least like supplement.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm just a miserable old white guy, so I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what's going on in culture? Can you explain

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<v Speaker 1>to me and my audience, which I assume they're probably

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<v Speaker 1>just like middle aged guys as well. Good for you,

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<v Speaker 1>we like having you here. Remember at snaky smut on

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<v Speaker 1>Patreon and on of. Head over there, sign up bare

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<v Speaker 1>minimum social media. You have to at least follow these

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<v Speaker 1>folks on social media. Links to everything or in the

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<v Speaker 1>episode description that's free, that costs you nothing, most our

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<v Speaker 1>com slash snaky smutt so apologies want to get that

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<v Speaker 1>in there? Good? Thank you. Let me ask this, how

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<v Speaker 1>would you classify? Oh? Let me finish my question ASMR.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know anything about ASMR. I hear it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>that people make and then you feel tangly and mostly

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<v Speaker 1>that for me is dirty talk. So I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what ASMR is. I feel tangly once girls talk dirty

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<v Speaker 1>to me. Can you explain to me and my audience

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<v Speaker 1>what ASMR is and how it is applied in the

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<v Speaker 1>adult entertainment industry or how you apply that? Sure?

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<v Speaker 3>So ASMR how you just described it is exactly what

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<v Speaker 3>it is. When it comes to the role plays like

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<v Speaker 3>we're doing on YouTube, sometimes it is ASMR, but that

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<v Speaker 3>is very whispery. You're doing like crinkly noises, it's binurmal

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<v Speaker 3>so using like the three deal microphone going from ear

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<v Speaker 3>to ear that kind of thing that is traditionally ASMR,

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<v Speaker 3>and there are lots of role plays like that, but

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<v Speaker 3>how we use the tag ASMR isn't really ASMR for

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<v Speaker 3>the most part. It's just I don't know how that

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<v Speaker 3>started or if it started the other way and kind

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<v Speaker 3>of morphed into whatever. But now people who enjoy that

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<v Speaker 3>just kind of take it as it's an audio roleplay.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, and that's how it is on other sites

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<v Speaker 3>like the hub everywhere. Because at first I was a

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<v Speaker 3>but it it is. It's just what they that's what

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<v Speaker 3>they've called it.

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<v Speaker 1>Gotcha, gotcha categorize did that way? Sorry? Regular as some

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<v Speaker 1>more though, do you have you ever watched it? Then?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you experience the feeling of gift? I've tried, but

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<v Speaker 1>I've been.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, it has to be specific people definitely, Yeah, I can't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't get it from everything. It's very it's specific videos.

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<v Speaker 1>That I have found.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a couple of friends who will do ASMR,

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<v Speaker 3>like live on Twitch, and that'll get me. It's more

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<v Speaker 3>so like the crinkly noises, the whispering doesn't really do

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<v Speaker 3>it for me, but yeah, I have experienced it.

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<v Speaker 2>I definitely have.

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<v Speaker 3>I've done it in a couple of audios and listened

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<v Speaker 3>back and been like, ooh, I feel the tingles.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I'm gonna have what is your least favorite sound?

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh, least favorite sound?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Other people chewing? Oh, I can't stand it.

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<v Speaker 1>Can die? Yeah they yeah, don't no, don't die. But

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<v Speaker 1>like that makes me really angry. Not even just chewing though, too.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I have to have music or TV on with

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<v Speaker 2>Right, it's just the noises, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It's masticating whatever the term is. It's gross.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's talk about Okay, see again, guys, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to check out the links in the episode description.

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<v Speaker 1>She has so much. I'm trying to get into section

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<v Speaker 1>two here about the content, and I go, where the

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<v Speaker 1>fuck do I even start with this? I know there's

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<v Speaker 1>so much we've talked about the audio. Let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the erotic literature real quick? Yeah, what type? I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you just writing stories? I also used to like

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<v Speaker 1>writing too, and then I found out it's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>easier to talk into a microphone, which you do as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, my god, do you have any time for

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<v Speaker 1>yourself in the day.

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<v Speaker 3>I do surprisingly make time for myself. It's something that people,

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<v Speaker 3>especially on my discorder, like, oh my god, do you

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<v Speaker 3>ever rest? And I'm like, I do, I really do.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's probably how I don't burn out and can

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<v Speaker 3>take lots of breaks.

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<v Speaker 2>People just don't see it. We're hear it.

422
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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, writing wise, I don't get to freely creatively

423
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<v Speaker 3>write as much as I used to. But I do

424
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<v Speaker 3>have an ongoing fanfic that I write with one of

425
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<v Speaker 3>my friends that I've been friends with in the audio

426
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<v Speaker 3>sphere for a really long time, and we go back

427
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<v Speaker 3>and forth at least once a month, and it's huge.

428
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<v Speaker 2>It's long.

429
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<v Speaker 3>Not anything we could ever make money off of, because

430
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<v Speaker 3>obviously fanfic usually the characters belong to someone else. But

431
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<v Speaker 3>it's just for fun. I used to write scripts quite

432
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<v Speaker 3>a bit. You can still read them. I think there's

433
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<v Speaker 3>like a link to them on my website. I don't

434
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<v Speaker 3>really post them much anymore, just because I don't spend

435
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<v Speaker 3>as much time on Reddit anymore where I started audio.

436
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<v Speaker 3>But that was something that I really enjoyed because it's

437
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<v Speaker 3>a nice way to write erotica quickly because you're not

438
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<v Speaker 3>having to detail everything. It's just a one sided conversation.

439
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<v Speaker 3>It makes things easier. But yeah, I love writing. It's

440
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<v Speaker 3>one of the first things I ever found that I

441
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<v Speaker 3>was good at. I won a bunch of awards long

442
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<v Speaker 3>time ago, like in high school and stuff, but so

443
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<v Speaker 3>I know I'm a good writer, and it is something like,

444
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<v Speaker 3>one day in the future, once I've retired, I would

445
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<v Speaker 3>love to write my own erotica and just like self published,

446
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<v Speaker 3>that's the dream one day.

447
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<v Speaker 1>Well, let me ask, is there any desire then to

448
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<v Speaker 1>write out or do you ever write like scenes? Do

449
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<v Speaker 1>you do dialogue in any of the stuff you may shoot,

450
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<v Speaker 1>or you enjoy collaborating on or anything like that? Have

451
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<v Speaker 1>you ever tried to sneak dialogue in somewhere with the collaboration,

452
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<v Speaker 1>Like do you think maybe they should talk a little first.

453
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<v Speaker 3>Or write to the fucking sorry go ahead, but no, no,

454
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<v Speaker 3>you're fine, so funny enough. Ninety nine percent of the

455
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<v Speaker 3>things that I do audio wise are improvised. I find

456
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<v Speaker 3>it much easier to just sit and get in front

457
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<v Speaker 3>of my microphone and I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna do this.

458
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<v Speaker 2>Cool, I'm gonna gap.

459
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<v Speaker 3>I used to write everything for myself or get free

460
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<v Speaker 3>scripts or whatever. I have lots of friends that they

461
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<v Speaker 3>pump out like ten audios a month, and they write

462
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<v Speaker 3>scripts for every single one. I could never my ADHD

463
00:23:05.039 --> 00:23:09.279
<v Speaker 3>would never allow it, So I improvise pretty much everything.

464
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<v Speaker 3>When it comes to collabse, I will usually commission really

465
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<v Speaker 3>really talented script writers from our kind of sphere to

466
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<v Speaker 3>write it. I commission a few scripts every month just

467
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<v Speaker 3>to give my brain a break. But yeah, there are

468
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<v Speaker 3>a couple times every year where I get like a

469
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<v Speaker 3>little bug that I want to write something for myself,

470
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<v Speaker 3>so I do. But for the most part it's all improvised,

471
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<v Speaker 3>which I know people are always like, wow, that's that's crazy,

472
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<v Speaker 3>But it's the way that I do it.

473
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<v Speaker 2>It's easier for me.

474
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<v Speaker 1>It's definitely a little bit crazy, only because I feel

475
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<v Speaker 1>like I would stubble stumble kind of halfway through and

476
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<v Speaker 1>being shit, well what are they going to do now?

477
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<v Speaker 1>Shirts off? Okay, all right, how about videos? Let's enter that.

478
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<v Speaker 1>Where when did you decide? And again, according to this

479
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<v Speaker 1>post you've been doing in real life content for five years.

480
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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't. I wasn't aware, So I apologize for that.

481
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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, that's totally okay, and I mean by that.

482
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<v Speaker 3>I started my Only Fans pretty shortly after starting my

483
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<v Speaker 3>audio thing. So I started audio in like August of

484
00:24:12.119 --> 00:24:17.480
<v Speaker 3>twenty nineteen, and then I started doing OnlyFans in July

485
00:24:17.599 --> 00:24:20.720
<v Speaker 3>of twenty twenty, and it was just like, well, we're

486
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<v Speaker 3>in lockdown and I already am like doing audio, so

487
00:24:24.240 --> 00:24:25.759
<v Speaker 3>this would be fun. I never got to have an

488
00:24:25.759 --> 00:24:28.079
<v Speaker 3>only fans when they first started, so yeah, let's do it.

489
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<v Speaker 3>So that's when I started doing it. And I did

490
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<v Speaker 3>like solo stuff for a really long time, just my

491
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<v Speaker 3>own things. I would do a lot of videos that

492
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<v Speaker 3>would be like pov so kind of like my audio.

493
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<v Speaker 3>And then it was just in March of last year

494
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<v Speaker 3>that my friend and I she's also in the audio community.

495
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<v Speaker 3>Her name is looking for My Blue Sky, we decided,

496
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<v Speaker 3>why don't we just get together and make a video.

497
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<v Speaker 3>I don't think anybody from our little neck of the

498
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<v Speaker 3>woods has done that yet, so we did, and I

499
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<v Speaker 3>was like, oh, it's a lot of fun. So I'd

500
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<v Speaker 3>say at the beginning of this year, I went to

501
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<v Speaker 3>EXBIS for the first time, met a lot of people,

502
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<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, you know what, I think I'm going

503
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<v Speaker 3>to start doing it. So it's been May of this

504
00:25:12.160 --> 00:25:15.400
<v Speaker 3>year that I started doing like irl stuff with partners,

505
00:25:15.440 --> 00:25:20.000
<v Speaker 3>so like boy girl scenes, boy girl girl, that kind

506
00:25:20.000 --> 00:25:22.440
<v Speaker 3>of stuff. But yeah, I've been doing like my own,

507
00:25:22.640 --> 00:25:24.599
<v Speaker 3>like solo stuff for five years.

508
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<v Speaker 1>So the first time though that you're deciding you're going

509
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<v Speaker 1>to put your face out there and maybe you're not

510
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<v Speaker 1>wearing any clothes with it, did you have Was it

511
00:25:33.960 --> 00:25:36.480
<v Speaker 1>anxiety or excitement? Was it a mix of both? Was

512
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<v Speaker 1>it more of one than the other? Like I think

513
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<v Speaker 1>I would be elated that I'm gonna do something big,

514
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<v Speaker 1>and then as soon as I hit submit, I and go,

515
00:25:44.240 --> 00:25:46.039
<v Speaker 1>oh fuck, everyone's seen me now.

516
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<v Speaker 3>So for me, I'm a bit of an exhibitionist and

517
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<v Speaker 3>so I had no qualms, but I was excited to

518
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<v Speaker 3>do it. I think that probably is from being a dancer.

519
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<v Speaker 3>If I had never done that before and I had

520
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<v Speaker 3>just done this, it would have been a mix of

521
00:26:01.039 --> 00:26:03.279
<v Speaker 3>both for sure. But I think it was like, I've

522
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<v Speaker 3>taken my clothes off for hundreds of people before, So whatever,

523
00:26:08.680 --> 00:26:11.799
<v Speaker 3>you okay, let's all right, we've done we did the audio,

524
00:26:12.200 --> 00:26:13.440
<v Speaker 3>we did literature.

525
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<v Speaker 1>Let's do the only fans even more. Let's dive into

526
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<v Speaker 1>that a little bit. You have a ton of stuff

527
00:26:20.240 --> 00:26:22.720
<v Speaker 1>on there. Sometimes I'll click on like an established performers

528
00:26:22.759 --> 00:26:25.599
<v Speaker 1>thing and I'll say, like four hundred things and there's

529
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<v Speaker 1>a mix of you know, a couple of videos and

530
00:26:27.920 --> 00:26:31.039
<v Speaker 1>this and that. You have thousands and thousands of pieces

531
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<v Speaker 1>of content on there. Do you work on a regular

532
00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:36.960
<v Speaker 1>update schedule? Is it something you break down? Is it well,

533
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<v Speaker 1>I look out today, snap send it out? What is

534
00:26:39.480 --> 00:26:43.400
<v Speaker 1>you like if I'm signing up at snaky smut, where

535
00:26:43.680 --> 00:26:45.079
<v Speaker 1>what am I going to get out of this? Not

536
00:26:45.400 --> 00:26:46.680
<v Speaker 1>that sounds really aggressive in it?

537
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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, I totally know that makes sense.

538
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<v Speaker 1>I don't.

539
00:26:50.400 --> 00:26:51.119
<v Speaker 2>That's fine.

540
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<v Speaker 3>So basically for filming for me, even when I was

541
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<v Speaker 3>doing it like just myself, like not doing like photo

542
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<v Speaker 3>shoots and having pictures, basically would block off like a

543
00:27:02.880 --> 00:27:07.839
<v Speaker 3>day a week and uh, just film different stuff, change outfits,

544
00:27:07.960 --> 00:27:09.960
<v Speaker 3>as I tell people, it's the best way to do it.

545
00:27:10.319 --> 00:27:13.759
<v Speaker 3>And then that way you have like like four weeks

546
00:27:13.759 --> 00:27:16.119
<v Speaker 3>of content if you really like space it out, or

547
00:27:16.160 --> 00:27:18.599
<v Speaker 3>even if you post every day if you take enough pictures,

548
00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:21.759
<v Speaker 3>you have tons of stuff for videos and stuff. I

549
00:27:21.839 --> 00:27:24.880
<v Speaker 3>definitely would pick the day that I'm feeling Okay, I'm

550
00:27:24.880 --> 00:27:27.119
<v Speaker 3>feeling it today, let's do it. I don't ever do

551
00:27:27.160 --> 00:27:29.000
<v Speaker 3>anything if I'm not feeling it because I feel like

552
00:27:29.039 --> 00:27:32.119
<v Speaker 3>it'll just it'll suck. I can tell that it's bad.

553
00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:35.160
<v Speaker 3>I feel like other people could. So that's that's pretty

554
00:27:35.200 --> 00:27:37.880
<v Speaker 3>much what I still do now these days, I do

555
00:27:38.039 --> 00:27:42.559
<v Speaker 3>work with some photographers and just do like solo content.

556
00:27:42.920 --> 00:27:45.440
<v Speaker 3>So now it's a little bit easier to be like, Okay,

557
00:27:45.480 --> 00:27:47.440
<v Speaker 3>I have this, this and this, and then I can

558
00:27:47.480 --> 00:27:49.920
<v Speaker 3>do one or two days a month where I'm like

559
00:27:50.119 --> 00:27:52.440
<v Speaker 3>changing outfits and doing my own stuff. But that's how

560
00:27:52.440 --> 00:27:55.759
<v Speaker 3>I built it up. So there's that much content. Is

561
00:27:55.839 --> 00:27:59.200
<v Speaker 3>just I have days and I'm like, I'm feeling creative today,

562
00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:00.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to go throw them up and do this.

563
00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:02.000
<v Speaker 3>But that's the only way I've done that.

564
00:28:04.000 --> 00:28:07.839
<v Speaker 1>So I see you shot a scene as I'm scrolling back,

565
00:28:08.279 --> 00:28:12.319
<v Speaker 1>not very florure pinned one shot a scene with flesh mechanic, right,

566
00:28:12.440 --> 00:28:15.279
<v Speaker 1>that's right, Uh huh, Okay, I have never met this gentleman,

567
00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:19.519
<v Speaker 1>but as I'm watching this trailer, are you, Okay, this

568
00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:23.440
<v Speaker 1>seems like an intense shoot, and how does a shoot

569
00:28:23.480 --> 00:28:27.400
<v Speaker 1>like that? Is this outside of your personality and your

570
00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:29.680
<v Speaker 1>comfort zone? Is this of pushing your limits or is

571
00:28:29.759 --> 00:28:32.640
<v Speaker 1>this like right in your comfort zone and we all

572
00:28:32.680 --> 00:28:35.680
<v Speaker 1>don't realize it. That's really in my comfort zone. And

573
00:28:35.759 --> 00:28:38.279
<v Speaker 1>anybody that has listened to my audios for short time

574
00:28:38.359 --> 00:28:40.920
<v Speaker 1>or long time, well know I can go from being

575
00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:46.279
<v Speaker 1>very like vanilla and bubbly and sweet to like pretty

576
00:28:46.279 --> 00:28:50.440
<v Speaker 1>hardcore like that, use me whatever, I'm just here, to

577
00:28:50.480 --> 00:28:54.839
<v Speaker 1>being kind of dommy. I run the spectrum for that

578
00:28:54.920 --> 00:28:58.039
<v Speaker 1>in particular, I know it was really intense as a

579
00:28:58.039 --> 00:29:01.839
<v Speaker 1>flash Mechanic is one of the nicest people I like,

580
00:29:02.119 --> 00:29:03.200
<v Speaker 1>And that's usually how it is.

581
00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:06.480
<v Speaker 3>I tell people all the time, I do taboo content

582
00:29:06.559 --> 00:29:10.519
<v Speaker 3>and we're all just regular people. We're not scary monsters

583
00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:14.680
<v Speaker 3>like lurking in the shadows. For that scene in particular,

584
00:29:14.680 --> 00:29:17.160
<v Speaker 3>because I did have a couple of people be like, WHOA,

585
00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:22.480
<v Speaker 3>there is like an extensive talk beforehand we recorded. It's

586
00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:28.519
<v Speaker 3>all very very consensual. Actually before we shot, he was like, Okay,

587
00:29:28.640 --> 00:29:30.799
<v Speaker 3>do you want to do something like more chill today

588
00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:33.440
<v Speaker 3>or are you feeling more like the rough vibe? And

589
00:29:33.519 --> 00:29:36.200
<v Speaker 3>I literally said, do you leave stuff on here?

590
00:29:36.759 --> 00:29:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh? You say whatever you want?

591
00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:38.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay.

592
00:29:39.160 --> 00:29:42.039
<v Speaker 3>I literally was like, I would love to do something rough.

593
00:29:42.200 --> 00:29:44.240
<v Speaker 3>I'm here to have fun. Fuck me up, and he

594
00:29:44.400 --> 00:29:49.400
<v Speaker 3>was like, oh, okay, sure. So it is very much

595
00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:52.680
<v Speaker 3>keeping on brand with me. I have some kinks that

596
00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:54.880
<v Speaker 3>evenite people that listen to me all the time are like,

597
00:29:55.240 --> 00:29:57.680
<v Speaker 3>I love your stuff, but I can't even do that, Like.

598
00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Can I ask for one of those? Sure?

599
00:30:01.720 --> 00:30:05.759
<v Speaker 3>Not that people wouldn't expect from you. Oh, okay, one

600
00:30:05.799 --> 00:30:06.920
<v Speaker 3>they wouldn't expect.

601
00:30:07.400 --> 00:30:10.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I threw a purple at the end there.

602
00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:12.359
<v Speaker 1>You can just tell me when you like, that's perfectly.

603
00:30:12.039 --> 00:30:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, No, that's okay.

604
00:30:13.640 --> 00:30:16.440
<v Speaker 3>So something that was in that that people do have

605
00:30:16.480 --> 00:30:18.880
<v Speaker 3>a lot of problem with is face slapping. A lot

606
00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:20.680
<v Speaker 3>of people have a big issue with that, and I

607
00:30:20.720 --> 00:30:23.039
<v Speaker 3>totally get it. But what I try and tell people

608
00:30:23.160 --> 00:30:26.079
<v Speaker 3>is like, the person in the scene who's doing this

609
00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:30.599
<v Speaker 3>lapping has probably extensively trained and they know exactly where

610
00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:32.920
<v Speaker 3>to do it, and it looks a lot worse than

611
00:30:32.960 --> 00:30:34.880
<v Speaker 3>it actually is. It's really just the sound.

612
00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:36.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

613
00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:40.200
<v Speaker 2>So that's when that people are always like, only.

614
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<v Speaker 1>They don't know, you know what people sometimes have a

615
00:30:42.519 --> 00:30:46.440
<v Speaker 1>problem differentiating in this industry and again preferences. My theory

616
00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:48.279
<v Speaker 1>has always been is, as long as there's no kids

617
00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:49.839
<v Speaker 1>or dogs in a room, I don't give a shit

618
00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:51.279
<v Speaker 1>what consenting adults they're.

619
00:30:51.079 --> 00:30:52.720
<v Speaker 2>On the same page. Yeah, I'm with you.

620
00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it may not be my thing. I might not

621
00:30:54.680 --> 00:30:56.880
<v Speaker 1>be into it, but at the same I might think

622
00:30:56.880 --> 00:30:59.680
<v Speaker 1>it's fucking weird, but I might. I'm not gonna throw

623
00:30:59.720 --> 00:31:01.119
<v Speaker 1>it at you and be like your baby.

624
00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:04.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna keep shaming Yeah you do you do you?

625
00:31:05.039 --> 00:31:08.559
<v Speaker 1>Okay? I think people might feel that way because there

626
00:31:08.599 --> 00:31:11.119
<v Speaker 1>are some performers who, again not shaming them or anything,

627
00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:13.839
<v Speaker 1>and I won't even call them out by name. Enjoy

628
00:31:13.880 --> 00:31:17.880
<v Speaker 1>the stuff that crosses from rough into violent yea, yeah, yeah,

629
00:31:17.880 --> 00:31:21.799
<v Speaker 1>I say you stop at rough or yeah.

630
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<v Speaker 3>I think I toe the line maybe just a little bit,

631
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<v Speaker 3>but I definitely have not ventured over that, which I

632
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<v Speaker 3>have no problem with people that do. But yeah, there

633
00:31:32.160 --> 00:31:35.200
<v Speaker 3>are some people that are into like closed fist hitting.

634
00:31:35.680 --> 00:31:40.119
<v Speaker 3>I have never done that. It's fun to watch, but yeah,

635
00:31:40.200 --> 00:31:42.279
<v Speaker 3>I don't cross that line. There are certain ones that

636
00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:47.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I'm not sure, do.

637
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<v Speaker 1>You have any desire in the future to shoot for

638
00:31:50.640 --> 00:31:54.839
<v Speaker 1>any of the big mainstream name sites. And I apologize.

639
00:31:54.880 --> 00:31:57.680
<v Speaker 1>I've tried to look up your your past scenes on

640
00:31:57.759 --> 00:31:59.960
<v Speaker 1>here in a middle. That's totally okay. Let's do a

641
00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:01.839
<v Speaker 1>thing real quick. I like to call stat check, So

642
00:32:01.880 --> 00:32:06.319
<v Speaker 1>stat check we use the Internet Adult Film Database. Okay, okay,

643
00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:09.920
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't include any of these scenes you shot over

644
00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:12.079
<v Speaker 1>here or this or these people you worked with. It

645
00:32:12.240 --> 00:32:15.240
<v Speaker 1>is dogshit numbers that make no sense to anyone, and

646
00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:17.880
<v Speaker 1>they're not real, but they're a good marker because then

647
00:32:17.880 --> 00:32:19.440
<v Speaker 1>when I have you on a year from now and

648
00:32:19.480 --> 00:32:22.680
<v Speaker 1>you're like, now, I'm a billionaire and I have all

649
00:32:22.680 --> 00:32:28.119
<v Speaker 1>these av and we can go, Hey, Victoria, remember back

650
00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:31.920
<v Speaker 1>when you had shot in nine scenes on record? I

651
00:32:31.960 --> 00:32:36.079
<v Speaker 1>have here males, you've worked with six females, you've worked

652
00:32:36.119 --> 00:32:40.720
<v Speaker 1>with three, no AVN nominations and no wins yet. Correct, Yes,

653
00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:43.279
<v Speaker 1>that's correct, all right, folks were back. We took a

654
00:32:43.279 --> 00:32:46.359
<v Speaker 1>dog break real quick. I'm a cat person, so.

655
00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:50.079
<v Speaker 2>I love to totally understand you.

656
00:32:50.319 --> 00:32:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Also, as I'm scrolling through your Twitter, which I'll probably

657
00:32:53.000 --> 00:32:55.079
<v Speaker 1>be doing just the rest of the night, your pictures,

658
00:32:55.920 --> 00:32:58.759
<v Speaker 1>maakeup is top notch. Let me say that, thank you

659
00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:02.640
<v Speaker 1>so much. That might be the single gayest thing I'll say.

660
00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:04.960
<v Speaker 1>And my wife show back me up on it. Your

661
00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:08.559
<v Speaker 1>make up beautiful, love it? Thank you? Uh?

662
00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:12.839
<v Speaker 3>Can I ask how would you define your style? Yeah,

663
00:33:12.839 --> 00:33:15.839
<v Speaker 3>that's a great question. I usually tell people my style

664
00:33:16.240 --> 00:33:19.759
<v Speaker 3>is like goth bimbo. I'm very goth, but I also

665
00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:22.640
<v Speaker 3>love wearing pink and like fluffy stuff, so yeah, I'm

666
00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:25.960
<v Speaker 3>very like glam goth goth bimbo vibes.

667
00:33:26.319 --> 00:33:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. See, I grew early two thousands. I would have

668
00:33:28.519 --> 00:33:30.759
<v Speaker 1>said goth. I would have said punk, like that was

669
00:33:30.880 --> 00:33:32.200
<v Speaker 1>my when I was like four.

670
00:33:32.240 --> 00:33:36.799
<v Speaker 3>Kelly, Yeah, yes, I loved it. You all started somewhere.

671
00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:39.119
<v Speaker 3>I started as a scene kid on MySpace, So it's

672
00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:39.880
<v Speaker 3>the evolution.

673
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<v Speaker 1>Sure, there you go. It's the great. Yeah, that's exactly it.

674
00:33:44.839 --> 00:33:48.440
<v Speaker 1>Do you want to shoot for the mainstream guys, the

675
00:33:48.440 --> 00:33:50.680
<v Speaker 1>big name sites? Like do you have a desire for that?

676
00:33:50.720 --> 00:33:53.440
<v Speaker 1>Because you should leave you're so successful on your own,

677
00:33:53.720 --> 00:33:54.359
<v Speaker 1>you know you?

678
00:33:55.000 --> 00:33:57.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I definitely I would love to. It's on my

679
00:33:57.480 --> 00:34:00.279
<v Speaker 3>bucket list of things to do. I'm working on it

680
00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:03.279
<v Speaker 3>fingers crossed because yeah, it would be really fun. That's

681
00:34:03.519 --> 00:34:06.279
<v Speaker 3>you know, those are the places that I started watching,

682
00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:10.039
<v Speaker 3>like real adult content. Like when I came of age,

683
00:34:10.639 --> 00:34:12.800
<v Speaker 3>I had subscriptions to places as soon as I was

684
00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:15.679
<v Speaker 3>able to. So yeah, I would love to. It's it's

685
00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:18.920
<v Speaker 3>definitely it's high up on my to do list. But

686
00:34:19.000 --> 00:34:21.920
<v Speaker 3>I also love just doing you know, collabs or people

687
00:34:21.960 --> 00:34:25.760
<v Speaker 3>that do their own independent websites. Those are really really fun.

688
00:34:26.320 --> 00:34:28.039
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I would love to shoot with some of

689
00:34:28.079 --> 00:34:29.039
<v Speaker 3>the studios for sure.

690
00:34:29.760 --> 00:34:31.760
<v Speaker 1>Just don't say dot com at the end, But is

691
00:34:31.800 --> 00:34:34.559
<v Speaker 1>there one site that you specifically have your eye on

692
00:34:34.920 --> 00:34:37.639
<v Speaker 1>at all? I understand they're all wonderful, they're all great,

693
00:34:37.719 --> 00:34:41.320
<v Speaker 1>and we're all anyone with the job opportunity. Yes, everyone

694
00:34:41.320 --> 00:34:44.599
<v Speaker 1>with the job opportunity is phenomenal. We appreciate every one

695
00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:46.840
<v Speaker 1>of them. But is there one? Really? Is there one

696
00:34:46.840 --> 00:34:49.880
<v Speaker 1>where you go Victoria malfoy should be a blank girl.

697
00:34:51.079 --> 00:34:54.519
<v Speaker 2>I would love to shoot with Team SKEI for sure.

698
00:34:54.920 --> 00:34:57.199
<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, We did a special for them, me

699
00:34:57.239 --> 00:34:59.960
<v Speaker 1>and my old co host with Kae Lovely one time.

700
00:35:00.719 --> 00:35:04.599
<v Speaker 1>Very cool. They are phenomenal to deal with. I've never

701
00:35:04.639 --> 00:35:07.880
<v Speaker 1>heard bad stuff. I'm sure there are stories probably somewhere.

702
00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:11.840
<v Speaker 3>Someone has to so do really cool scenarios and tropes

703
00:35:11.920 --> 00:35:14.480
<v Speaker 3>that I'll be like I never thought of that, Like,

704
00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:15.440
<v Speaker 3>that's so fine.

705
00:35:16.199 --> 00:35:18.320
<v Speaker 1>So that's my question to you, what do you think

706
00:35:18.440 --> 00:35:23.880
<v Speaker 1>of the current niches and trends and everything else important.

707
00:35:23.960 --> 00:35:25.400
<v Speaker 1>If you keep up on that, you seem like you

708
00:35:25.480 --> 00:35:27.559
<v Speaker 1>keep I feel.

709
00:35:27.239 --> 00:35:29.519
<v Speaker 3>Like I will say, I feel like, if you're gonna

710
00:35:29.519 --> 00:35:31.159
<v Speaker 3>do this and be serious about it, you have to

711
00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:34.880
<v Speaker 3>keep up with that stuff. You definitely do. Even when

712
00:35:34.880 --> 00:35:37.760
<v Speaker 3>I started doing audio, those change so Like when I

713
00:35:37.800 --> 00:35:41.920
<v Speaker 3>first started, monster girls were really popular, not so much anymore.

714
00:35:42.559 --> 00:35:49.039
<v Speaker 3>During Lockdown it was family relations were really popular. That's

715
00:35:49.079 --> 00:35:51.320
<v Speaker 3>always gonna be one that is because taboo stuff is

716
00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:54.039
<v Speaker 3>always people love that. It's the oh, we shouldn't be

717
00:35:54.039 --> 00:35:58.119
<v Speaker 3>doing this, But yeah, I think it's I think it's

718
00:35:58.119 --> 00:36:01.079
<v Speaker 3>really cool to see that amateur stuff is getting more popular.

719
00:36:01.199 --> 00:36:05.039
<v Speaker 3>I see that bump up every year on the Hub,

720
00:36:05.119 --> 00:36:06.679
<v Speaker 3>like when they release the thing at the end of

721
00:36:06.679 --> 00:36:10.400
<v Speaker 3>the year. I love that MILFs get so much attention.

722
00:36:11.280 --> 00:36:14.039
<v Speaker 3>It's always one of those things that like, I was

723
00:36:14.079 --> 00:36:16.960
<v Speaker 3>a teenager in the early two thousands and they very much.

724
00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:19.079
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure you remember this made it seemed like after

725
00:36:19.119 --> 00:36:21.559
<v Speaker 3>your twenty five, no one wants you.

726
00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:27.599
<v Speaker 1>Well, Unfortunately, I think that might be more of a

727
00:36:27.639 --> 00:36:28.400
<v Speaker 1>female thing.

728
00:36:28.719 --> 00:36:32.400
<v Speaker 3>So it is definitely, but it was pushed on us

729
00:36:32.480 --> 00:36:36.199
<v Speaker 3>so hard, like after you're thirty, it's over, and I

730
00:36:36.239 --> 00:36:40.000
<v Speaker 3>think like getting older and seeing like, no, it's really not.

731
00:36:40.679 --> 00:36:43.559
<v Speaker 3>And again, like you said, it's more of a they

732
00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:45.760
<v Speaker 3>pushed that on like teenage girls. It's more of like

733
00:36:46.159 --> 00:36:50.360
<v Speaker 3>a female thing. Yeah, men don't care. They love it,

734
00:36:51.119 --> 00:36:55.079
<v Speaker 3>So I'm always super happy to see that. Yeah, those

735
00:36:55.079 --> 00:36:57.159
<v Speaker 3>are the two that really stick out to me because

736
00:36:57.199 --> 00:37:00.440
<v Speaker 3>when I first started watching videos, amateur stuff was the

737
00:37:00.519 --> 00:37:03.920
<v Speaker 3>easiest to find and consume. And I still love watching

738
00:37:03.960 --> 00:37:06.800
<v Speaker 3>it because you can tell like they're really into it.

739
00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:09.440
<v Speaker 3>They're having fun, which is the thing that I look

740
00:37:09.519 --> 00:37:10.639
<v Speaker 3>for at the end of the day.

741
00:37:10.679 --> 00:37:11.079
<v Speaker 1>I love that.

742
00:37:11.960 --> 00:37:16.079
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I'm excited every single year to see what

743
00:37:16.360 --> 00:37:19.840
<v Speaker 3>is popular because it's never anything that I think it's

744
00:37:19.880 --> 00:37:22.039
<v Speaker 3>going to be. And I love going state by state

745
00:37:22.119 --> 00:37:25.280
<v Speaker 3>to see what the people in that state are into.

746
00:37:25.719 --> 00:37:28.039
<v Speaker 1>I like doing that too, especially when they publish it

747
00:37:28.039 --> 00:37:30.800
<v Speaker 1>at the end. I enjoy that. Uh, you know, I

748
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:34.039
<v Speaker 1>have a trend that I in my head. I was like,

749
00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:36.519
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna Stumper on this one. I'm gonna ask her

750
00:37:36.599 --> 00:37:39.760
<v Speaker 1>how she would do an erotic fantasy about this topic.

751
00:37:39.880 --> 00:37:42.119
<v Speaker 1>Or niche. Oh I love it, but I think I

752
00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:43.679
<v Speaker 1>figured it out. So if you don't figure it out,

753
00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:46.119
<v Speaker 1>I think I have an answer. Okay, how would you

754
00:37:46.199 --> 00:37:50.199
<v Speaker 1>do a free use for all of that? Okay?

755
00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:54.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, free use is a very popular trope, especially in audio.

756
00:37:55.039 --> 00:37:56.199
<v Speaker 2>I've done a lot of that.

757
00:37:56.400 --> 00:37:56.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

758
00:37:56.840 --> 00:37:59.880
<v Speaker 3>So one of my favorite ways to do it, and

759
00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:02.039
<v Speaker 3>one that I think a lot of people it's warm

760
00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:05.760
<v Speaker 3>palatable for them, is like having a partner. So for example,

761
00:38:05.760 --> 00:38:07.960
<v Speaker 3>one of the role plays I've done is like boyfriend

762
00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:11.440
<v Speaker 3>girlfriend girlfriend has a pair of panties that she wears

763
00:38:11.440 --> 00:38:13.800
<v Speaker 3>when it's free use weekend, and you see those and

764
00:38:13.880 --> 00:38:17.119
<v Speaker 3>you know you can do it whenever you want. And

765
00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:20.199
<v Speaker 3>that is like people really like that when it's very like,

766
00:38:20.239 --> 00:38:23.840
<v Speaker 3>oh this isn't scary or weird, like somebody don't.

767
00:38:23.679 --> 00:38:25.400
<v Speaker 2>Know, it's easy today.

768
00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

769
00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:27.920
<v Speaker 2>If I had a girlfriend and like or my girlfriend

770
00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:29.800
<v Speaker 2>did this, okay, I can get on board with that.

771
00:38:31.119 --> 00:38:31.880
<v Speaker 2>Other ways that.

772
00:38:31.880 --> 00:38:34.559
<v Speaker 3>I've done that is I've done once where it's kind

773
00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:39.440
<v Speaker 3>of like professor student vibe like teaching assistant, like you're

774
00:38:39.440 --> 00:38:42.239
<v Speaker 3>gonna give me a better grade and you can do

775
00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:44.280
<v Speaker 3>whatever you want whenever you want to do it, and

776
00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:46.639
<v Speaker 3>I think it's hot. Both are the ways that I've

777
00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:49.280
<v Speaker 3>done it. I've seen it done a million different ways

778
00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:52.079
<v Speaker 3>from all types of other performers, but yeah, that's one

779
00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:53.920
<v Speaker 3>of those. I really like it, And I had no

780
00:38:54.000 --> 00:38:56.760
<v Speaker 3>idea that was the thing until I started doing audio I.

781
00:38:57.280 --> 00:38:59.320
<v Speaker 1>See and that first. When I saw for you stuff,

782
00:38:59.320 --> 00:39:01.480
<v Speaker 1>I was like, how do I feel about this? Because

783
00:39:01.480 --> 00:39:03.480
<v Speaker 1>there are to me, there are a lot of different

784
00:39:03.519 --> 00:39:06.840
<v Speaker 1>ways to interpret it. So of course you could interpret

785
00:39:06.920 --> 00:39:10.719
<v Speaker 1>it as dominant male coming to take what he wants

786
00:39:10.760 --> 00:39:13.280
<v Speaker 1>and walk on and whatever. You can also take it

787
00:39:13.280 --> 00:39:16.480
<v Speaker 1>in the way I took it, dominant female, who I

788
00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:18.559
<v Speaker 1>don't even need I'm not even worried about this guy.

789
00:39:18.599 --> 00:39:21.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm fucking paying bills right now. Okay, he's throwing it

790
00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:23.519
<v Speaker 1>in me. I'm not even going to pay attention whatever.

791
00:39:23.639 --> 00:39:25.519
<v Speaker 1>I think that was my thing where I was like, oh,

792
00:39:25.559 --> 00:39:28.119
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot less anxiety on performance if she doesn't

793
00:39:28.159 --> 00:39:33.840
<v Speaker 1>know I exist done. How do you interpret for you?

794
00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:36.199
<v Speaker 1>Do you is it a give and take depends like

795
00:39:36.320 --> 00:39:38.440
<v Speaker 1>or do you like the idea of a guy taking

796
00:39:38.679 --> 00:39:39.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of Yes, I.

797
00:39:40.519 --> 00:39:43.079
<v Speaker 2>Just like the idea that it's this.

798
00:39:44.800 --> 00:39:50.519
<v Speaker 3>Scenario where either or party has this Like for me,

799
00:39:50.880 --> 00:39:53.440
<v Speaker 3>especially if I'm in more of like the submissive parts,

800
00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:56.360
<v Speaker 3>like this is fun, Like I'm in control. You can

801
00:39:56.400 --> 00:39:58.320
<v Speaker 3>do whatever you want, but I'm letting you do it.

802
00:39:58.360 --> 00:40:01.119
<v Speaker 3>I'm giving you this to you to let you have fun.

803
00:40:01.440 --> 00:40:04.280
<v Speaker 3>So I love that aspect of it. I also like

804
00:40:04.320 --> 00:40:06.119
<v Speaker 3>the one of it's like kind of like you said,

805
00:40:06.159 --> 00:40:08.559
<v Speaker 3>dominant mail, like, oh, I'm going to take this whatever.

806
00:40:09.320 --> 00:40:13.000
<v Speaker 3>I like free use too, because it's it goes up

807
00:40:13.000 --> 00:40:15.599
<v Speaker 3>to the line of kind of like non con or

808
00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:19.719
<v Speaker 3>CNC without having to go over it because it's usually

809
00:40:19.760 --> 00:40:22.880
<v Speaker 3>discussed or another way that I've done it or seen

810
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:26.400
<v Speaker 3>it done where it's like it's world building. So there's

811
00:40:26.480 --> 00:40:28.639
<v Speaker 3>world building where it's like it's a free use world.

812
00:40:28.719 --> 00:40:31.880
<v Speaker 3>People were just this is how everybody lives. Everybody's used

813
00:40:31.880 --> 00:40:34.480
<v Speaker 3>to it. And I love that one because then you

814
00:40:34.519 --> 00:40:37.679
<v Speaker 3>can basically start any scenario you want and it makes

815
00:40:37.719 --> 00:40:39.599
<v Speaker 3>sense because oh, everybody does this.

816
00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:43.760
<v Speaker 1>That's interesting. I never consider the free use atmosphere or

817
00:40:43.800 --> 00:40:45.119
<v Speaker 1>the whole environment type.

818
00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:45.920
<v Speaker 2>It's so cool.

819
00:40:46.119 --> 00:40:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So let's wrap this up with a few cup

820
00:40:49.559 --> 00:40:52.719
<v Speaker 1>questions here, Where are we going? Where do you see

821
00:40:52.760 --> 00:40:55.559
<v Speaker 1>your career moving forward? You said you're very interested in

822
00:40:55.639 --> 00:40:59.519
<v Speaker 1>moving into more mainstream stuff. You're very successful on your own, right.

823
00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:02.599
<v Speaker 1>Do you see yourself hitting a dollar goal and going

824
00:41:02.639 --> 00:41:05.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm done. Do you see yourself one day at forty

825
00:41:05.639 --> 00:41:09.119
<v Speaker 1>going I just don't feel like doing this anymore? Or

826
00:41:09.159 --> 00:41:11.760
<v Speaker 1>do you see yourself making guilt point? I interviewed D. D.

827
00:41:11.920 --> 00:41:16.920
<v Speaker 1>White formally SAKEO my Gosvin b One. She still as

828
00:41:17.039 --> 00:41:20.199
<v Speaker 1>what she refers to as BBC gang Bangs, that's what

829
00:41:20.280 --> 00:41:25.559
<v Speaker 1>she calls it. And I am blown away at this

830
00:41:25.639 --> 00:41:28.880
<v Speaker 1>woman's desire and ability to keep working.

831
00:41:29.480 --> 00:41:33.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm so impressed by that, and that is kind

832
00:41:33.000 --> 00:41:37.800
<v Speaker 3>of where I'm at. I have no age or number

833
00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:40.960
<v Speaker 3>that I think I'll stop at. I think one day

834
00:41:41.079 --> 00:41:42.880
<v Speaker 3>it'll just be one of those things where I'm like,

835
00:41:43.639 --> 00:41:46.280
<v Speaker 3>this isn't really doing it for me anymore. But what

836
00:41:46.360 --> 00:41:48.719
<v Speaker 3>I love about this job is like that doesn't even

837
00:41:48.760 --> 00:41:50.800
<v Speaker 3>matter because everything that I've made, I can leave it

838
00:41:50.880 --> 00:41:54.239
<v Speaker 3>up and people can enjoy it forever. That's one of

839
00:41:54.280 --> 00:41:57.079
<v Speaker 3>the reasons why I've liked making so much content is

840
00:41:57.119 --> 00:42:00.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I, honestly, could you know, go way for

841
00:42:00.519 --> 00:42:02.880
<v Speaker 3>a year or whatever, and people still have tons of

842
00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:06.199
<v Speaker 3>stuff to enjoy or go through or whatever. So I

843
00:42:06.239 --> 00:42:09.320
<v Speaker 3>don't have a specific age that I'll stop. I could

844
00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:12.079
<v Speaker 3>be one. Honestly, it would be cool to be seventy

845
00:42:12.119 --> 00:42:14.320
<v Speaker 3>and still being able to like do this. I would

846
00:42:14.320 --> 00:42:19.559
<v Speaker 3>love that. My my like immediate goals are I would

847
00:42:19.559 --> 00:42:22.840
<v Speaker 3>love to do stuff like that's more mainstream. I tell

848
00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:25.400
<v Speaker 3>you all the time. Audio is always going to be

849
00:42:25.519 --> 00:42:29.159
<v Speaker 3>my number one just because I have built such a

850
00:42:29.320 --> 00:42:32.199
<v Speaker 3>loyal I hate calling them. I like calling them like

851
00:42:32.239 --> 00:42:37.360
<v Speaker 3>listeners or whatever. I've built such a following and a

852
00:42:37.559 --> 00:42:40.559
<v Speaker 3>listening like fan base of people that enjoy it that

853
00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:43.760
<v Speaker 3>I would never stop. It's one of the reasons I

854
00:42:43.800 --> 00:42:46.199
<v Speaker 3>made my website so that people would like easily search

855
00:42:46.239 --> 00:42:50.039
<v Speaker 3>for things and find it. So yeah, I really would

856
00:42:50.119 --> 00:42:53.079
<v Speaker 3>just love to take that further. I would love to

857
00:42:53.880 --> 00:42:56.159
<v Speaker 3>make it more known to people. It's one of the

858
00:42:56.199 --> 00:42:59.519
<v Speaker 3>reasons I started putting audios on like the hub uh

859
00:42:59.679 --> 00:43:02.119
<v Speaker 3>and there are so many other people doing that, and

860
00:43:02.159 --> 00:43:04.599
<v Speaker 3>I think it's awesome because other people get to see, Oh,

861
00:43:04.679 --> 00:43:07.159
<v Speaker 3>there's another type of media that I can enjoy if

862
00:43:07.199 --> 00:43:10.199
<v Speaker 3>I can't do visual stuff. So yeah, I only want

863
00:43:10.239 --> 00:43:13.840
<v Speaker 3>to go up. It's like I'm world domination. That's what

864
00:43:13.960 --> 00:43:17.960
<v Speaker 3>I tell people. I'm joking, but just a little do

865
00:43:18.039 --> 00:43:18.679
<v Speaker 3>you okay?

866
00:43:18.800 --> 00:43:24.159
<v Speaker 1>So do you have any concerns about AI because you

867
00:43:24.199 --> 00:43:27.519
<v Speaker 1>already have your established fan base? Right, Oh, let's just

868
00:43:27.599 --> 00:43:32.079
<v Speaker 1>say I can get a voice generator and a chat

869
00:43:32.119 --> 00:43:37.480
<v Speaker 1>GPT that does dirty talk and whatever could I create? Again,

870
00:43:37.760 --> 00:43:40.400
<v Speaker 1>You are good, I believe, because you've already established your

871
00:43:40.440 --> 00:43:42.400
<v Speaker 1>fan base. They know what they're getting from you. They

872
00:43:42.440 --> 00:43:45.119
<v Speaker 1>have a personal connection with you, which makes it different.

873
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:47.360
<v Speaker 1>But do you think someone could go out there and

874
00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:50.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of throw on some AI slop and be successful?

875
00:43:51.920 --> 00:43:55.119
<v Speaker 3>In my opinion, no, I think AI is garbage. I

876
00:43:55.159 --> 00:43:59.800
<v Speaker 3>think AI is great for certain things like building things.

877
00:44:00.079 --> 00:44:04.360
<v Speaker 3>Ever for artists, I think it's it's garbage.

878
00:44:04.679 --> 00:44:05.320
<v Speaker 2>I've had.

879
00:44:06.440 --> 00:44:09.159
<v Speaker 3>I've had my voice stolen once for something. I had

880
00:44:09.199 --> 00:44:12.800
<v Speaker 3>it taken down. I don't like it. I think, especially

881
00:44:12.840 --> 00:44:15.519
<v Speaker 3>for audio, it's never gonna be good. Yeah, you can

882
00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:17.519
<v Speaker 3>make it say whatever you wanted to say, but it

883
00:44:17.519 --> 00:44:22.519
<v Speaker 3>has no personality, no feeling, no emotion behind it. It's

884
00:44:22.639 --> 00:44:26.800
<v Speaker 3>just it's a computer. And you know, if people enjoy

885
00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:30.000
<v Speaker 3>that whatever, I'm not gonna knock it, but it's never

886
00:44:30.039 --> 00:44:32.280
<v Speaker 3>gonna be as good. In my opinion, I don't think

887
00:44:32.320 --> 00:44:35.840
<v Speaker 3>it will. I also think it's lazy. If you're a

888
00:44:35.960 --> 00:44:38.039
<v Speaker 3>creator and you're like, oh, I don't I don't like

889
00:44:38.079 --> 00:44:39.639
<v Speaker 3>my voice I'm gonna do then don't do it.

890
00:44:40.360 --> 00:44:43.199
<v Speaker 2>Then don't do it. I also think the same thing

891
00:44:43.239 --> 00:44:44.079
<v Speaker 2>about pictures.

892
00:44:44.159 --> 00:44:47.920
<v Speaker 3>I see AI like, uh, onlyfan stuff, and I'm just like,

893
00:44:48.000 --> 00:44:51.639
<v Speaker 3>this is so either take the picture yourself or don't

894
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:56.039
<v Speaker 3>the way around that, Like, if you you know you

895
00:44:56.079 --> 00:44:58.360
<v Speaker 3>want to do visual stuff but you don't want people

896
00:44:58.400 --> 00:45:01.440
<v Speaker 3>to know who you are. I highly implore people to

897
00:45:01.480 --> 00:45:05.639
<v Speaker 3>do like a vtube model, And there are people that do.

898
00:45:05.840 --> 00:45:09.760
<v Speaker 3>It's called lude tubing and people do that, and you

899
00:45:09.800 --> 00:45:11.960
<v Speaker 3>can make it naked, you can do whatever. There are

900
00:45:12.079 --> 00:45:12.760
<v Speaker 3>certain ways.

901
00:45:13.599 --> 00:45:17.079
<v Speaker 1>Gosh, I'll be honest with it. Even you're good you

902
00:45:17.119 --> 00:45:19.199
<v Speaker 1>can't hear it. I don't think it's isolated. Yeah, so

903
00:45:19.239 --> 00:45:21.440
<v Speaker 1>if it's bothering you, definitely I can.

904
00:45:21.679 --> 00:45:23.239
<v Speaker 2>If you can't. If you can't hear it, I will

905
00:45:23.239 --> 00:45:24.679
<v Speaker 2>talk through it, Okay.

906
00:45:25.639 --> 00:45:29.239
<v Speaker 3>So in regards to like pictures and stuff like that,

907
00:45:29.360 --> 00:45:32.760
<v Speaker 3>I also think that's that's garbage. I don't think that

908
00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:36.159
<v Speaker 3>it's ever going to give people the same kind of

909
00:45:36.199 --> 00:45:38.119
<v Speaker 3>connection that you're going to get from a human who's

910
00:45:38.119 --> 00:45:42.159
<v Speaker 3>making something, drawing something, recording something. It's never it's never

911
00:45:42.199 --> 00:45:44.920
<v Speaker 3>going to be the same, so I worry. I know

912
00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:48.039
<v Speaker 3>that someone could technically take my voice, take my picture.

913
00:45:48.079 --> 00:45:49.840
<v Speaker 3>I've had it happen with my voice. I've had it

914
00:45:49.880 --> 00:45:52.639
<v Speaker 3>happen with the art that I commission. If my character

915
00:45:53.320 --> 00:45:57.599
<v Speaker 3>it happens, it looks, in my opinion, like shit, sounds

916
00:45:57.639 --> 00:46:00.920
<v Speaker 3>like shit. So I'm not worried about it, but I

917
00:46:00.960 --> 00:46:02.760
<v Speaker 3>know it is a thing, and it is something that

918
00:46:02.840 --> 00:46:05.119
<v Speaker 3>a lot of us, especially in audio, worried about, like

919
00:46:05.159 --> 00:46:07.639
<v Speaker 3>what if someone gets us in It actually sounds close

920
00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:09.159
<v Speaker 3>and makes me say something crazy.

921
00:46:10.119 --> 00:46:11.400
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I.

922
00:46:11.239 --> 00:46:14.880
<v Speaker 3>Hope that it doesn't get that way anytime soon, and

923
00:46:15.119 --> 00:46:17.360
<v Speaker 3>people use AI for different things. But yeah, it is

924
00:46:17.400 --> 00:46:19.119
<v Speaker 3>a worry. Definitely worry about it. It's one of the

925
00:46:19.159 --> 00:46:20.360
<v Speaker 3>reasons I got lawyers.

926
00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:25.519
<v Speaker 1>Last question. This is an odd one only because you

927
00:46:25.519 --> 00:46:27.760
<v Speaker 1>would think people that are in this industry would have

928
00:46:27.840 --> 00:46:32.679
<v Speaker 1>the common answer, and instead I get a different common answer.

929
00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:37.079
<v Speaker 1>So again, no judgment. It's just strictly a question like

930
00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:41.199
<v Speaker 1>a whatever something, how you feel, what age should it?

931
00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:47.239
<v Speaker 1>What age should women be to be able to get

932
00:46:47.239 --> 00:46:52.000
<v Speaker 1>into this industry? And we'll run through it at the end,

933
00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:53.360
<v Speaker 1>but you tell me what do you think and if

934
00:46:53.400 --> 00:46:54.480
<v Speaker 1>you have a thought process on that.

935
00:46:54.760 --> 00:46:57.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I have a couple of different thought processes

936
00:46:58.159 --> 00:47:02.280
<v Speaker 3>in one side of my brain. I think twenty one

937
00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:07.920
<v Speaker 3>and up is probably smartest. However, I do know that

938
00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:12.280
<v Speaker 3>when I was like younger and didn't have a means

939
00:47:12.320 --> 00:47:13.920
<v Speaker 3>to make money right away, Like I talked about it

940
00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:17.400
<v Speaker 3>at the beginning of this that I was nineteen when

941
00:47:17.400 --> 00:47:22.679
<v Speaker 3>I started, so I was able to pay my bills

942
00:47:22.719 --> 00:47:24.480
<v Speaker 3>and do whatever. And I know for a lot of

943
00:47:24.519 --> 00:47:28.920
<v Speaker 3>people dancing things like that, making and only fans, it

944
00:47:28.960 --> 00:47:30.199
<v Speaker 3>is out of necessity.

945
00:47:30.360 --> 00:47:31.280
<v Speaker 2>They need to do it.

946
00:47:31.280 --> 00:47:33.840
<v Speaker 3>It isn't like they like doing it, I'm sure, but

947
00:47:33.920 --> 00:47:37.719
<v Speaker 3>like it is to pay the bills. So for that,

948
00:47:38.199 --> 00:47:42.039
<v Speaker 3>I always stick with eighteen because I know I've been there,

949
00:47:42.199 --> 00:47:44.480
<v Speaker 3>I've had friends that have been there, and it is

950
00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:46.840
<v Speaker 3>it's a way to get yourself out of the hole.

951
00:47:46.920 --> 00:47:48.840
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes that is.

952
00:47:49.000 --> 00:47:52.039
<v Speaker 1>That that is like the most common thing. It's it's

953
00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:56.559
<v Speaker 1>the it's the performer telling me twenty one and then struggle,

954
00:47:56.639 --> 00:47:59.239
<v Speaker 1>not that you did, but struggling to realize, like, hey,

955
00:47:59.360 --> 00:48:02.639
<v Speaker 1>there are there are others that What it always comes

956
00:48:02.639 --> 00:48:05.920
<v Speaker 1>down to is maturity, right, Oh, totally, yeah, you were.

957
00:48:06.840 --> 00:48:08.920
<v Speaker 1>I also do a side show where I interview new

958
00:48:08.960 --> 00:48:11.719
<v Speaker 1>performers coming into the industry, and a horror story I

959
00:48:11.760 --> 00:48:15.440
<v Speaker 1>heard eighteen year old girl. And it's not as, it's

960
00:48:15.480 --> 00:48:18.000
<v Speaker 1>not graphics, so it's just right right, like I'm not

961
00:48:18.000 --> 00:48:20.119
<v Speaker 1>going to hit you with something horrendous here, But no,

962
00:48:20.280 --> 00:48:22.880
<v Speaker 1>I didn't think So he flew across the country on

963
00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:25.360
<v Speaker 1>her own dime because she would be reimbursed, got to

964
00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:29.280
<v Speaker 1>the hotel where she'd be reimbursed. Eighteen year old girl.

965
00:48:29.960 --> 00:48:32.480
<v Speaker 1>Guy just never picked up the phone after that, never

966
00:48:32.559 --> 00:48:36.400
<v Speaker 1>answered again. And you go, well, look, I know thirty

967
00:48:36.480 --> 00:48:38.239
<v Speaker 1>year olds who could fall for that too.

968
00:48:38.559 --> 00:48:41.360
<v Speaker 3>So eight of course it happened to people in their

969
00:48:41.400 --> 00:48:43.719
<v Speaker 3>twenties and their thirty stories. It happens to people all

970
00:48:43.760 --> 00:48:47.199
<v Speaker 3>the time. You have people ghost you, flake on you, whatever. Yeah,

971
00:48:47.239 --> 00:48:49.760
<v Speaker 3>it happens all the time. It's not because they're eighteen.

972
00:48:50.920 --> 00:48:53.559
<v Speaker 1>We came to kind of a consensus, and I'm not

973
00:48:53.639 --> 00:48:55.920
<v Speaker 1>asking you to join in with this Consensu's just you know,

974
00:48:56.599 --> 00:49:03.800
<v Speaker 1>where every time I asked this, maybe only one for hardcore, okay, eighteen,

975
00:49:04.000 --> 00:49:07.400
<v Speaker 1>nineteen twenty, you could do solo, you could do only

976
00:49:08.360 --> 00:49:09.400
<v Speaker 1>it's not meant.

977
00:49:09.199 --> 00:49:10.639
<v Speaker 2>To limit that kind of thing.

978
00:49:10.719 --> 00:49:14.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, sure, it's more just a safety concern.

979
00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:17.719
<v Speaker 3>And again, look and honestly I think I mean I

980
00:49:17.760 --> 00:49:19.920
<v Speaker 3>would get on. I think that makes sense. It makes

981
00:49:19.960 --> 00:49:24.639
<v Speaker 3>total sense because you know, until I was probably like

982
00:49:25.119 --> 00:49:27.960
<v Speaker 3>twenty two or twenty three, I don't think I would

983
00:49:28.000 --> 00:49:30.800
<v Speaker 3>have done like irl stuff like with a partner, because

984
00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:33.199
<v Speaker 3>I was like, hmm, am I going to be the

985
00:49:33.239 --> 00:49:34.599
<v Speaker 3>way that I want to be in the scene has

986
00:49:34.639 --> 00:49:36.920
<v Speaker 3>nothing to do with them. So yeah, I agree with that.

987
00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:39.199
<v Speaker 3>It is definitely an emotional maturity thing.

988
00:49:39.280 --> 00:49:39.639
<v Speaker 2>That's sure.

989
00:49:39.960 --> 00:49:41.760
<v Speaker 1>Sure, let's not make it a law, but.

990
00:49:41.800 --> 00:49:43.599
<v Speaker 2>Let's let's yeah, let's.

991
00:49:43.400 --> 00:49:46.559
<v Speaker 1>Convey to people, hey, maybe starting this slow if you

992
00:49:46.679 --> 00:49:47.880
<v Speaker 1>really want to make it a career.

993
00:49:48.079 --> 00:49:49.920
<v Speaker 2>Totally I agree with that for sure.

994
00:49:50.039 --> 00:49:53.360
<v Speaker 1>All Right, ladies and gentlemen, my guest tonight, Victoria Malfoy.

995
00:49:53.960 --> 00:49:56.920
<v Speaker 1>You can find her exactly where you think you can

996
00:49:56.960 --> 00:50:00.960
<v Speaker 1>find her at snaky smut s nak e y s

997
00:50:01.079 --> 00:50:06.159
<v Speaker 1>E m u T, patreon dot com, slash sneak snaky.

998
00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:07.480
<v Speaker 2>I know it's a tongue twister.

999
00:50:07.719 --> 00:50:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, it's not that my mouth is just dry.

1000
00:50:10.039 --> 00:50:12.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm tired, but I have loved talking to you. You

1001
00:50:12.920 --> 00:50:13.559
<v Speaker 1>are so insighted.

1002
00:50:13.599 --> 00:50:15.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, thank you. It's been so much fun.

1003
00:50:16.119 --> 00:50:18.039
<v Speaker 1>You're not terrible to look at, which is a very

1004
00:50:18.119 --> 00:50:21.920
<v Speaker 1>nice thing at the end of the day. And I

1005
00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:26.639
<v Speaker 1>just I think you are so fascinating in such a

1006
00:50:26.840 --> 00:50:28.280
<v Speaker 1>creative You've.

1007
00:50:28.119 --> 00:50:31.159
<v Speaker 2>Made it my day. Thank you so much, ladies and gentlemen.

1008
00:50:31.360 --> 00:50:33.480
<v Speaker 1>Victoria Malfoy, Victoria, thank you so much for coming on

1009
00:50:33.519 --> 00:50:34.840
<v Speaker 1>with me and night so much for having me.

1010
00:50:34.920 --> 00:50:36.280
<v Speaker 2>I hope we get to come back sometimes
