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Speaker 1: Victoria Malfoy, my guest for the evening. You know exactly

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where you can find her at snaky Smut. Links to

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all of our social media are in the episode description,

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but I want to send you over to her patreon,

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patreon dot com slash snaky smut. What you're gonna find

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there is audio content and we're going to dive into

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that today. Please make sure you support the content creators

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who come on the show, Otherwise they don't come on

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the show anymore. Victoria, it's a pleasure to have you

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on tonight. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: It's a pleasure to be here. Thanks so much for

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having me.

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Speaker 1: So I normally start with the question everyone starts with,

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but I want to do it a little differently because

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I have a different one to start. What to be

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going with? Okay, how do you define your job title?

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Speaker 3: I to find my job title is I wear mini hats.

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I do lots of different things, but I kind of

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keep myself under the umbrella of adult entertainer.

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Speaker 1: All right, yeah, adult entertainer and the adult content creator.

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Speaker 2: Maybe also also that too, Yes.

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Speaker 1: So now let's go to my actual number one question here.

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How did you initially decide to get into the adult

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entertainment industry. What was the last hurdle you went over

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and went fuck it, new job.

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Speaker 3: So it's a really it's kind of an interesting story.

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I've been in the adult entertainment industry off and on

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for like almost fifteen years. My initial start in it

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was around twenty eleven. I had just moved from my

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home state and I had moved to a new place.

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I was perfectly happy to start my vanilla job that

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I had all lined up, and then circumstances happened and

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I needed money like quick. So the first thing in

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my head was, I thought strip clubs always have like

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amateur night. But that is not a thing that happens

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very often, I have learned. So one of my friends

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hooked me up with a interview at Cheetahs, and that

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pretty much kicked everything off. I've always been a very

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sexual persons never bothered me, so I kind of took

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to it like a fish to water, and that was

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my jumping off point. And then I've been off and on,

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and then I would say, probably luckily a few minutes

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or a few minutes a few months before COVID started,

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I was introduced to the wonderful world of audio erotica,

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and I dove into that and that's been kind of

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the catalyst for everything ever since. I've have never had

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a vanilla job since then, and I'm happy about it.

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It's great. I'm really blessed. I get to do this

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all the time. That's super creative. But yeah, that's basically

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how it started, stopped, restarted.

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Speaker 2: Again, and then I through doing.

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Speaker 3: Audio, I moved into doing visual because I'd always done

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that previously, even before OnlyFans was around. So adding that

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and then the past, oh, I guess since May I

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have done more of the IRL stuff with other partners,

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and yeah, that's kind of where I'm at now.

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Speaker 1: So you said twenty eleven is when you start on this.

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Let me say, if people are just listening to this

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and not watching the video, I literally crunched the numbers

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in my head and I went, was she ten years old?

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How does this work? You look phenomenal. Whatever age you are,

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I will not ask you look amazing.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much. I don't tell my exact age.

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I'm in my thirties, but thank you. I really appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't know you, and there's so much to

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dive into. So I reached down and I was talking

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to one of the PR people. They recommended you, and

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I'll be honest, I was ready to wrap for my season.

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My wife and I always take a vacation at Halloween.

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I think you'll like this. Maybe are you? Are you

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a halloween person? I am.

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Speaker 2: I'm a spooky person. I can't see it. I have

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horror stuff all behind me.

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Speaker 1: You want that where do we go for Halloween? You

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tell me? I would think Salem. You Salem, Massachusetts every year?

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Room great? And then I look through. I go, Okay,

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she's hot. But like I've you know, talked to a

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lot of hot girls. Let's see, and I go, what

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the hell does she do? This is awesome? She does

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some really incredible stuff. What is your whole audio? You say? Like,

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what did you say in there? You said something where

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you were like I was introduced to the world of

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audio literature erotica type yeah, and I went like this, okay,

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I was interested to introduce to it about thirty eight

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minutes ago. So you know that's interesting. Can you tell

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me what it is?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: I get the concept of it, but yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's it's really exciting.

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Speaker 3: I love talking about it because it's it's just now

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becoming more i'd say mainstream, like people kind of know

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what it is.

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Speaker 2: I had no idea what it was.

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Speaker 3: So the way I describe it to people is it

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is like a radio play is from back in the day,

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but they're spicy. So basically it is a one sided

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audio roleplay. So for example, it's me talking and it's

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the listener can self insert themselves. So a lot of

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people find it easier to consume because there there isn't

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anything visual. They can picture whoever they want. Obviously I'm

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face out. People will know what I look like. They

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can picture whoever they want. They can look however they want,

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be whoever they want, and it's it's a fun outlet

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for that. So yeah, I think a radio play is

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the best way to describe it. We do collabse sometimes,

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so it'll be two voices, three four and then just

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you know, the listener does not speak. But yeah, that's

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that's the best way to describe it. I had never

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heard about it. When I heard about it, I was like, Wow,

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that's really cool.

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Speaker 1: I had on Cubby Thompson and I asked her the question.

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One of the most beautiful people in the world. I

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asked her the question the calendars on her website. Does

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she order them in advance or do you place an

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order when you know how many purchases I've had on

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Lana Violet Amazing Born star Dominatrix. My question to her

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was do you need insurance when shooting scenes like that?

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So my question to you, and I legitimately think this

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is a good question, And everyone listening goes, oh, this

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guy's an actual idiot. Do you do fuley work as

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well during your thing? So?

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Speaker 3: I have my folly for the most part pre recording

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so fully that I do live in every audio are

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bj sounds, kind of linga sounds, anything kind of like

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that I do. As I'm recording other things, I will

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record previously and we edit them in after. But yeah,

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I do a lot of my own fully work. A

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lot of people do. A lot of people make all

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of their sound efect. It's kind of like I do beforehand,

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and they have techniques for it. There's like there's a

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whole array of like tutorials that I've been given.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy. Yeah, it's it's very in depth.

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Speaker 1: It's no, it's so cool and I'm not just like

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like if it was you know, only kind of cool.

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I'd be like, oh, that's great for you. No, I'm

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actually like excited to learn about this. I got a

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new Patreon and go sign up for It's like good, Okay,

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when did you, oh say you were introduced to it?

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did you have any reservations about it? Or did you

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just think great idea right away?

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Speaker 3: So I had some reservations. I thought it was a

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great idea because there are people that I like loved

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listening to people with accents for example, or I can

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immediately be like, oh, yeah, that's nice. So I understood

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the concept. But initially I had really no interest in recording.

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I just kind of wanted to write because I found

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erotica online for the first time through fan fiction, so

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I'm a big fanfic person. I always wrote that, so

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I thought I can write scripts for this. This will

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be fun. And then someone suggested They're like, no, really,

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you should record. You should try it, trust me, And

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once I did, I was like, oh, I really like this.

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I have an acting kink, so I love acting that

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totally meets it. I also, many many years ago, people

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have always told me that my voice sounded like a

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phone sex operator, so I feel like I'm kind of

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fulfilling the prophecy for that. But yeah, I definitely did

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not think that I would enjoy it as much as

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for me as it has been. But it totally is,

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and it's really nice. I love doing visual stuff and

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always will, but it is really nice sometimes just to

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wake up and be like, I think I'm going to

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be a pirate today, so I'm gonna go record this

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and I don't have to do anything to do bad.

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Speaker 1: Let me have do you know It? All your demographics

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on Patreon only, because anytime I've interviewed a female performer

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who's really into like written literature, erotica type stuff, I'm like, oh,

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so do you know guys who are into that? And

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most of them are like, no, not really, or they

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tell me like, I do a lesbian video for me

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and I'm like, oh, that's so great is that and

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they go it's the worst seller, and I'm like, oh,

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all right, well, guys are kind of typically, but are

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you finding you're also bringing women to things like your Patreon.

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Is it mostly men? Do you have any idea?

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Speaker 3: It's it's mostly men I have. I have a smaller

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demographic of women or non binary or trans that listen

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to me. So I do make that content. I really should,

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and I say this all the time. I should make

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more of it. But my audience, again is mostly men

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that I have found. So yeah, I would love to

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have more because it's it's fun for me. I'm bisexual,

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so I like making audios for women in non binary

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 3: It's I love it all I've done. I've done lots

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of audios like that, but definitely my main focus is

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usually male.

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Speaker 1: Actually sure, I only say that because I think, I mean,

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I have such low opinion of men, and that's my

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own thing, because I have such a low opinion of

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myself that I think, like, you know, most guys would

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probably be like, oh, I need a visual, I need

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something to you. You have such good quality content. You're

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drawing them in and they can see you too. They

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know they can go find stuff with your face on

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your picture, and yet they still want to hear not

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just your voice but what you're writing, your your you know,

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oh is she going to do this in the story?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 3: It's really different because I myself, yeah, I would honestly

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think that men would prefer to have something visual. But

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I have found a lot of people not that they care,

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but I've had some people be like, I don't look

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at the places that you have, like your face, because

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is fine. I totally get it. That's that's totally fine.

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I first started doing this thought like this has got

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to like cap at some point, Like people have to

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like get tired of this at some point, right, I

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hope they don't. It's fun, but but no, people are

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really into it. And I've had some listeners who have

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been on my Patreon or like in my discord that

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have been there for like years since like I started,

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and it is.

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Speaker 2: Something they really really enjoy.

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Speaker 3: And I think the main part is is like there's

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nothing either to compare yourself to or that you have

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to like visualize, or maybe you don't really like this thing,

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but you have to look at it to enjoy it.

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Speaker 2: It can literally be.

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Speaker 1: Whatever let's would you mind, I want to go over

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one of your tweets and maybe we could delve into

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that deeper. Okay, yeah, totally September first, Okay, let's chat.

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I completely understand that some people have found me recently,

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but I have and face out and doing in real

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life content for five years. If you can't handle the

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duality of me or my character slash brand, no harm,

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no foul, I wish you the best. So first off,

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sweet message weird. I wouldn't think I personally, I wouldn't

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think like if I was only into audio wise and

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then I saw you and I'm like, oh my god,

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because when I hear phone sex operator, I think Snickers

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wrappers and skin tags personally on a gorgeous voice. That's

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just my impression, because I know if I had a

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good voice, I would be trying to fool people. But

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you put the visual to it, I would think it

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would enhance it. But it seems like you do have

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some people who are like, no, it's it's.

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Speaker 3: Mostly and I will be honest, and this is no

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offense to the YouTube crowd, but it is mostly people

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from YouTube who have found me through my completely safer

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work stuff. The people that find me through not safer

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work stuff are very accepting. They don't care, it's whatever.

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It's really the people that find me just for my

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like holy like safer work like audio role plays that

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have a real issue with it. And I don't really

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know why, but yeah, it's become a thing. Or I'll

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have people come over to my YouTube and like, oh

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have you seen her on Orange YouTube? Like it's not

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a secret, I'm not hiding it. I've always I've always guys.

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hey bug, way you guys know she does this.

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like a YouTube model made to do that kind of

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like content in future, and I know that there is

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a thing in that, in that whole genre of people

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that they don't want to know what the person behind

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that looks like. So I think that I have, through

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doing safer work stuff, attracted people that are kind of

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in that mindset, which is totally fine. But yeah, it

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was getting to a certain point where I was like, Okay,

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I'm going to bring this up because it's actually starting

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to bother me.

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Speaker 1: You sound like a person who does know what you're

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doing online though, Like you threw out a few different

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things in there that I went, I don't know what

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the fuck that is? Okay, keep smiling at her. Do

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you have to stay engaged online? Understand what new things

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are coming out, Understand which social media is the hot

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one right now? Do you have to stay on top

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of that stuff?

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Speaker 2: I think so.

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Speaker 3: I think that this is a job where you really

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do have to keep up with stuff to a certain degree.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: I know, and like people that I know that we

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try and like say, Okay, I have this much time

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online and then I will give myself a break, And

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that's really what I do, because I feel like if

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you're on all the time, it is detrimental to your

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mental health. But yeah, I kind of came to terms

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with it a couple of years ago that because of

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the nature of this job, you just have to be online.

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I know that people would say, like, oh, they're chronically online.

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We kind of have to be, because you do. You

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have to keep up with trends or new social media

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or this platform is and allowing this to anymore, so okay,

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we have to go remove it now.

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Speaker 2: So, yeah, it's a lot to keep up with.

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Speaker 1: I always ask this question that I don't think it

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will apply to you, but I go I normally ask like,

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did you realize that shooting porn was going to take

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up five percent of your day and the rest was

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social media, editing book? But it sounds like you may

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have had that. You might have known that coming into this.

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Speaker 3: I had a little bit of an inkling, and yeah,

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it was kind of from doing the audio stuff, like, yeah,

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so this audio took me twenty minutes to record, for example,

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but it's going to take four hours to edit it.

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So I kind of had an idea going in. But

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when I first started doing all of this like online,

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because everything I had done up until that was in person.

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Dancing is obviously in person, so I had no idea.

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I had no idea. I thought it would be a

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lot quicker and you could just kind of like afterwards,

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like you know, go about your day. But no, you

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have to if you wanted to become a business over

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a hobby, you do really have to, like lock in.

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Speaker 1: Do you think you could be as successful as you

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are now if for some reason you want it to

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take a step back from the in real life stuff.

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Do you think you could dedicate your time to your

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other stuff and then eventually build that and make it,

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you know, to fill in the other that you get

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from the IRL.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah.

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Speaker 3: I if I had never done like OnlyFans and had

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just stayed audio, I had made it a thing to

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like grind how I used to post like free audios

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like three times a week when I first started. So yeah,

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I know that if I really was like, you know what,

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I'm kind of sick of doing this, I'm just going

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to go back to doing only audio. I'm sure that

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I could one hundred percent. I'm one of those people though.

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I really do like being face out and doing that,

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so I'll definitely do it as long as I can really,

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But yeah, I have thought about that before, because there

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have been thoughts of like what if I get sick

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or like whatever. I do have like a plethora of

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audios that I could at least like supplement.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm just a miserable old white guy, so I

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don't know what's going on in culture? Can you explain

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to me and my audience, which I assume they're probably

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just like middle aged guys as well. Good for you,

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we like having you here. Remember at snaky smut on

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Patreon and on of. Head over there, sign up bare

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minimum social media. You have to at least follow these

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folks on social media. Links to everything or in the

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episode description that's free, that costs you nothing, most our

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numbers for him help them out? Payday rolls around. Head

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over to the of. Head over to the patreon dot

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com slash snaky smutt so apologies want to get that

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in there? Good? Thank you. Let me ask this, how

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would you classify? Oh? Let me finish my question ASMR.

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I don't know anything about ASMR. I hear it sounds

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that people make and then you feel tangly and mostly

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that for me is dirty talk. So I don't know

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what ASMR is. I feel tangly once girls talk dirty

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to me. Can you explain to me and my audience

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what ASMR is and how it is applied in the

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adult entertainment industry or how you apply that? Sure?

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Speaker 3: So ASMR how you just described it is exactly what

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it is. When it comes to the role plays like

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we're doing on YouTube, sometimes it is ASMR, but that

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is very whispery. You're doing like crinkly noises, it's binurmal

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so using like the three deal microphone going from ear

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to ear that kind of thing that is traditionally ASMR,

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and there are lots of role plays like that, but

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how we use the tag ASMR isn't really ASMR for

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the most part. It's just I don't know how that

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started or if it started the other way and kind

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of morphed into whatever. But now people who enjoy that

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just kind of take it as it's an audio roleplay.

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Speaker 2: That's what it is.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, and that's how it is on other sites

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like the hub everywhere. Because at first I was a

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little confused. I was like, this isn't this isn't ASMR,

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but it it is. It's just what they that's what

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they've called it.

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Speaker 1: Gotcha, gotcha categorize did that way? Sorry? Regular as some

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more though, do you have you ever watched it? Then?

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Do you experience the feeling of gift? I've tried, but

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I've been.

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Speaker 3: Like, it has to be specific people definitely, Yeah, I can't.

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I don't get it from everything. It's very it's specific videos.

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Speaker 1: That I have found.

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Speaker 3: I have a couple of friends who will do ASMR,

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like live on Twitch, and that'll get me. It's more

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so like the crinkly noises, the whispering doesn't really do

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it for me, but yeah, I have experienced it.

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Speaker 2: I definitely have.

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Speaker 3: I've done it in a couple of audios and listened

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back and been like, ooh, I feel the tingles.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm gonna have what is your least favorite sound?

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Speaker 2: Ooh, least favorite sound?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Other people chewing? Oh, I can't stand it.

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Speaker 1: Can die? Yeah they yeah, don't no, don't die. But

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like that makes me really angry. Not even just chewing though, too.

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Like I have to have music or TV on with

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my wife when we're eating only because and she not

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a mouth open eater or any of that.

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Speaker 2: Right, it's just the noises, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's masticating whatever the term is. It's gross.

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Speaker 2: I agree totally.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about Okay, see again, guys, you

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have to check out the links in the episode description.

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She has so much. I'm trying to get into section

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two here about the content, and I go, where the

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fuck do I even start with this? I know there's

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so much we've talked about the audio. Let's talk about

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the erotic literature real quick? Yeah, what type? I mean?

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Are you just writing stories? I also used to like

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writing too, and then I found out it's a lot

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easier to talk into a microphone, which you do as well.

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I mean, my god, do you have any time for

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yourself in the day.

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Speaker 3: I do surprisingly make time for myself. It's something that people,

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especially on my discorder, like, oh my god, do you

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ever rest? And I'm like, I do, I really do.

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It's it's probably how I don't burn out and can

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do as much as I do, because I really I

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take lots of breaks.

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Speaker 2: People just don't see it. We're hear it.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, writing wise, I don't get to freely creatively

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write as much as I used to. But I do

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have an ongoing fanfic that I write with one of

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my friends that I've been friends with in the audio

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sphere for a really long time, and we go back

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and forth at least once a month, and it's huge.

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Speaker 2: It's long.

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Speaker 3: Not anything we could ever make money off of, because

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obviously fanfic usually the characters belong to someone else. But

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it's just for fun. I used to write scripts quite

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a bit. You can still read them. I think there's

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like a link to them on my website. I don't

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really post them much anymore, just because I don't spend

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as much time on Reddit anymore where I started audio.

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But that was something that I really enjoyed because it's

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a nice way to write erotica quickly because you're not

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having to detail everything. It's just a one sided conversation.

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It makes things easier. But yeah, I love writing. It's

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one of the first things I ever found that I

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was good at. I won a bunch of awards long

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time ago, like in high school and stuff, but so

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I know I'm a good writer, and it is something like,

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one day in the future, once I've retired, I would

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love to write my own erotica and just like self published,

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that's the dream one day.

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Speaker 1: Well, let me ask, is there any desire then to

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write out or do you ever write like scenes? Do

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you do dialogue in any of the stuff you may shoot,

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or you enjoy collaborating on or anything like that? Have

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you ever tried to sneak dialogue in somewhere with the collaboration,

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Like do you think maybe they should talk a little first.

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Speaker 3: Or write to the fucking sorry go ahead, but no, no,

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you're fine, so funny enough. Ninety nine percent of the

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things that I do audio wise are improvised. I find

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it much easier to just sit and get in front

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of my microphone and I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna do this.

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Speaker 2: Cool, I'm gonna gap.

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Speaker 3: I used to write everything for myself or get free

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scripts or whatever. I have lots of friends that they

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pump out like ten audios a month, and they write

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scripts for every single one. I could never my ADHD

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would never allow it, So I improvise pretty much everything.

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really talented script writers from our kind of sphere to

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write it. I commission a few scripts every month just

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to give my brain a break. But yeah, there are

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a couple times every year where I get like a

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little bug that I want to write something for myself,

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so I do. But for the most part it's all improvised,

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which I know people are always like, wow, that's that's crazy,

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But it's the way that I do it.

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Speaker 2: It's easier for me.

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Speaker 1: It's definitely a little bit crazy, only because I feel

475
00:23:40,759 --> 00:23:42,920
like I would stubble stumble kind of halfway through and

476
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:44,920
being shit, well what are they going to do now?

477
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:52,559
Shirts off? Okay, all right, how about videos? Let's enter that.

478
00:23:52,599 --> 00:23:55,400
Where when did you decide? And again, according to this

479
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,799
post you've been doing in real life content for five years.

480
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,279
I wasn't. I wasn't aware, So I apologize for that.

481
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,319
Speaker 3: No, no, no, that's totally okay, and I mean by that.

482
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,759
I started my Only Fans pretty shortly after starting my

483
00:24:08,839 --> 00:24:12,079
audio thing. So I started audio in like August of

484
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:17,480
twenty nineteen, and then I started doing OnlyFans in July

485
00:24:17,599 --> 00:24:20,720
of twenty twenty, and it was just like, well, we're

486
00:24:20,759 --> 00:24:24,160
in lockdown and I already am like doing audio, so

487
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:25,759
this would be fun. I never got to have an

488
00:24:25,759 --> 00:24:28,079
only fans when they first started, so yeah, let's do it.

489
00:24:29,759 --> 00:24:31,359
So that's when I started doing it. And I did

490
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,160
like solo stuff for a really long time, just my

491
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,160
own things. I would do a lot of videos that

492
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,960
would be like pov so kind of like my audio.

493
00:24:41,799 --> 00:24:45,480
And then it was just in March of last year

494
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,880
that my friend and I she's also in the audio community.

495
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,359
Her name is looking for My Blue Sky, we decided,

496
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,240
why don't we just get together and make a video.

497
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,359
I don't think anybody from our little neck of the

498
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,039
woods has done that yet, so we did, and I

499
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,079
was like, oh, it's a lot of fun. So I'd

500
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,880
say at the beginning of this year, I went to

501
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,640
EXBIS for the first time, met a lot of people,

502
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,920
and I'm like, you know what, I think I'm going

503
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,039
to start doing it. So it's been May of this

504
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,400
year that I started doing like irl stuff with partners,

505
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:20,000
so like boy girl scenes, boy girl girl, that kind

506
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,440
of stuff. But yeah, I've been doing like my own,

507
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,599
like solo stuff for five years.

508
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,559
Speaker 1: So the first time though that you're deciding you're going

509
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,920
to put your face out there and maybe you're not

510
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,720
wearing any clothes with it, did you have Was it

511
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,480
anxiety or excitement? Was it a mix of both? Was

512
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,039
it more of one than the other? Like I think

513
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,119
I would be elated that I'm gonna do something big,

514
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:43,960
and then as soon as I hit submit, I and go,

515
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,039
oh fuck, everyone's seen me now.

516
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 3: So for me, I'm a bit of an exhibitionist and

517
00:25:50,759 --> 00:25:52,839
so I had no qualms, but I was excited to

518
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,359
do it. I think that probably is from being a dancer.

519
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,759
If I had never done that before and I had

520
00:25:58,839 --> 00:26:01,000
just done this, it would have been a mix of

521
00:26:01,039 --> 00:26:03,279
both for sure. But I think it was like, I've

522
00:26:03,279 --> 00:26:07,440
taken my clothes off for hundreds of people before, So whatever,

523
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,799
you okay, let's all right, we've done we did the audio,

524
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:13,440
we did literature.

525
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,160
Speaker 1: Let's do the only fans even more. Let's dive into

526
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,200
that a little bit. You have a ton of stuff

527
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,720
on there. Sometimes I'll click on like an established performers

528
00:26:22,759 --> 00:26:25,599
thing and I'll say, like four hundred things and there's

529
00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:27,880
a mix of you know, a couple of videos and

530
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,039
this and that. You have thousands and thousands of pieces

531
00:26:31,079 --> 00:26:34,079
of content on there. Do you work on a regular

532
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,960
update schedule? Is it something you break down? Is it well,

533
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,440
I look out today, snap send it out? What is

534
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,400
you like if I'm signing up at snaky smut, where

535
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,079
what am I going to get out of this? Not

536
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:46,680
that sounds really aggressive in it?

537
00:26:47,279 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I totally know that makes sense.

538
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: I don't.

539
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 2: That's fine.

540
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 3: So basically for filming for me, even when I was

541
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,599
doing it like just myself, like not doing like photo

542
00:26:57,599 --> 00:27:02,799
shoots and having pictures, basically would block off like a

543
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:07,839
day a week and uh, just film different stuff, change outfits,

544
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,960
as I tell people, it's the best way to do it.

545
00:27:10,319 --> 00:27:13,759
And then that way you have like like four weeks

546
00:27:13,759 --> 00:27:16,119
of content if you really like space it out, or

547
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,599
even if you post every day if you take enough pictures,

548
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,759
you have tons of stuff for videos and stuff. I

549
00:27:21,839 --> 00:27:24,880
definitely would pick the day that I'm feeling Okay, I'm

550
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,119
feeling it today, let's do it. I don't ever do

551
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,000
anything if I'm not feeling it because I feel like

552
00:27:29,039 --> 00:27:32,119
it'll just it'll suck. I can tell that it's bad.

553
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,160
I feel like other people could. So that's that's pretty

554
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,880
much what I still do now these days, I do

555
00:27:38,039 --> 00:27:42,559
work with some photographers and just do like solo content.

556
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,440
So now it's a little bit easier to be like, Okay,

557
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,440
I have this, this and this, and then I can

558
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,920
do one or two days a month where I'm like

559
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,440
changing outfits and doing my own stuff. But that's how

560
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,759
I built it up. So there's that much content. Is

561
00:27:55,839 --> 00:27:59,200
just I have days and I'm like, I'm feeling creative today,

562
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:00,640
I'm going to go throw them up and do this.

563
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,000
But that's the only way I've done that.

564
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,839
Speaker 1: So I see you shot a scene as I'm scrolling back,

565
00:28:08,279 --> 00:28:12,319
not very florure pinned one shot a scene with flesh mechanic, right,

566
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,279
that's right, Uh huh, Okay, I have never met this gentleman,

567
00:28:15,319 --> 00:28:19,519
but as I'm watching this trailer, are you, Okay, this

568
00:28:19,559 --> 00:28:23,440
seems like an intense shoot, and how does a shoot

569
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,400
like that? Is this outside of your personality and your

570
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,680
comfort zone? Is this of pushing your limits or is

571
00:28:29,759 --> 00:28:32,640
this like right in your comfort zone and we all

572
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,680
don't realize it. That's really in my comfort zone. And

573
00:28:35,759 --> 00:28:38,279
anybody that has listened to my audios for short time

574
00:28:38,359 --> 00:28:40,920
or long time, well know I can go from being

575
00:28:41,039 --> 00:28:46,279
very like vanilla and bubbly and sweet to like pretty

576
00:28:46,279 --> 00:28:50,440
hardcore like that, use me whatever, I'm just here, to

577
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:54,839
being kind of dommy. I run the spectrum for that

578
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,039
in particular, I know it was really intense as a

579
00:28:58,039 --> 00:29:01,839
flash Mechanic is one of the nicest people I like,

580
00:29:02,119 --> 00:29:03,200
And that's usually how it is.

581
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 3: I tell people all the time, I do taboo content

582
00:29:06,559 --> 00:29:10,519
and we're all just regular people. We're not scary monsters

583
00:29:10,559 --> 00:29:14,680
like lurking in the shadows. For that scene in particular,

584
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,160
because I did have a couple of people be like, WHOA,

585
00:29:18,079 --> 00:29:22,480
there is like an extensive talk beforehand we recorded. It's

586
00:29:22,519 --> 00:29:28,519
all very very consensual. Actually before we shot, he was like, Okay,

587
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,799
do you want to do something like more chill today

588
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,440
or are you feeling more like the rough vibe? And

589
00:29:33,519 --> 00:29:36,200
I literally said, do you leave stuff on here?

590
00:29:36,759 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: Oh? You say whatever you want?

591
00:29:38,319 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 2: Okay, okay.

592
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,039
Speaker 3: I literally was like, I would love to do something rough.

593
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,240
I'm here to have fun. Fuck me up, and he

594
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:49,400
was like, oh, okay, sure. So it is very much

595
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,680
keeping on brand with me. I have some kinks that

596
00:29:52,759 --> 00:29:54,880
evenite people that listen to me all the time are like,

597
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,680
I love your stuff, but I can't even do that, Like.

598
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: Can I ask for one of those? Sure?

599
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:05,759
Speaker 3: Not that people wouldn't expect from you. Oh, okay, one

600
00:30:05,799 --> 00:30:06,920
they wouldn't expect.

601
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,079
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I threw a purple at the end there.

602
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,359
You can just tell me when you like, that's perfectly.

603
00:30:12,039 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, that's okay.

604
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 3: So something that was in that that people do have

605
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,880
a lot of problem with is face slapping. A lot

606
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,680
of people have a big issue with that, and I

607
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,039
totally get it. But what I try and tell people

608
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,079
is like, the person in the scene who's doing this

609
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:30,599
lapping has probably extensively trained and they know exactly where

610
00:30:30,599 --> 00:30:32,920
to do it, and it looks a lot worse than

611
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,880
it actually is. It's really just the sound.

612
00:30:36,599 --> 00:30:36,839
Speaker 1: Yeah.

613
00:30:37,359 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 2: So that's when that people are always like, only.

614
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: They don't know, you know what people sometimes have a

615
00:30:42,519 --> 00:30:46,440
problem differentiating in this industry and again preferences. My theory

616
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,279
has always been is, as long as there's no kids

617
00:30:48,359 --> 00:30:49,839
or dogs in a room, I don't give a shit

618
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:51,279
what consenting adults they're.

619
00:30:51,079 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 2: On the same page. Yeah, I'm with you.

620
00:30:52,799 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it may not be my thing. I might not

621
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:56,880
be into it, but at the same I might think

622
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,680
it's fucking weird, but I might. I'm not gonna throw

623
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,119
it at you and be like your baby.

624
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna keep shaming Yeah you do you do you?

625
00:31:05,039 --> 00:31:08,559
Speaker 1: Okay? I think people might feel that way because there

626
00:31:08,599 --> 00:31:11,119
are some performers who, again not shaming them or anything,

627
00:31:11,119 --> 00:31:13,839
and I won't even call them out by name. Enjoy

628
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,880
the stuff that crosses from rough into violent yea, yeah, yeah,

629
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,799
I say you stop at rough or yeah.

630
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,359
Speaker 3: I think I toe the line maybe just a little bit,

631
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,720
but I definitely have not ventured over that, which I

632
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,160
have no problem with people that do. But yeah, there

633
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,200
are some people that are into like closed fist hitting.

634
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:40,119
I have never done that. It's fun to watch, but yeah,

635
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,279
I don't cross that line. There are certain ones that

636
00:31:42,319 --> 00:31:47,160
I'm like, I'm not sure, do.

637
00:31:47,119 --> 00:31:50,559
Speaker 1: You have any desire in the future to shoot for

638
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,839
any of the big mainstream name sites. And I apologize.

639
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,680
I've tried to look up your your past scenes on

640
00:31:57,759 --> 00:31:59,960
here in a middle. That's totally okay. Let's do a

641
00:32:00,039 --> 00:32:01,839
thing real quick. I like to call stat check, So

642
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:06,319
stat check we use the Internet Adult Film Database. Okay, okay,

643
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,920
that doesn't include any of these scenes you shot over

644
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,079
here or this or these people you worked with. It

645
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,240
is dogshit numbers that make no sense to anyone, and

646
00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:17,880
they're not real, but they're a good marker because then

647
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,440
when I have you on a year from now and

648
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,680
you're like, now, I'm a billionaire and I have all

649
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:28,119
these av and we can go, Hey, Victoria, remember back

650
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,920
when you had shot in nine scenes on record? I

651
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:36,079
have here males, you've worked with six females, you've worked

652
00:32:36,119 --> 00:32:40,720
with three, no AVN nominations and no wins yet. Correct, Yes,

653
00:32:40,799 --> 00:32:43,279
that's correct, all right, folks were back. We took a

654
00:32:43,279 --> 00:32:46,359
dog break real quick. I'm a cat person, so.

655
00:32:46,559 --> 00:32:50,079
Speaker 2: I love to totally understand you.

656
00:32:50,319 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: Also, as I'm scrolling through your Twitter, which I'll probably

657
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,079
be doing just the rest of the night, your pictures,

658
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,759
maakeup is top notch. Let me say that, thank you

659
00:32:58,799 --> 00:33:02,640
so much. That might be the single gayest thing I'll say.

660
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,960
And my wife show back me up on it. Your

661
00:33:05,119 --> 00:33:08,559
make up beautiful, love it? Thank you? Uh?

662
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:12,839
Speaker 3: Can I ask how would you define your style? Yeah,

663
00:33:12,839 --> 00:33:15,839
that's a great question. I usually tell people my style

664
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,759
is like goth bimbo. I'm very goth, but I also

665
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,640
love wearing pink and like fluffy stuff, so yeah, I'm

666
00:33:22,759 --> 00:33:25,960
very like glam goth goth bimbo vibes.

667
00:33:26,319 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. See, I grew early two thousands. I would have

668
00:33:28,519 --> 00:33:30,759
said goth. I would have said punk, like that was

669
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,200
my when I was like four.

670
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:36,799
Speaker 3: Kelly, Yeah, yes, I loved it. You all started somewhere.

671
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,119
I started as a scene kid on MySpace, So it's

672
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:39,880
the evolution.

673
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,279
Speaker 1: Sure, there you go. It's the great. Yeah, that's exactly it.

674
00:33:44,839 --> 00:33:48,440
Do you want to shoot for the mainstream guys, the

675
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,680
big name sites? Like do you have a desire for that?

676
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,440
Because you should leave you're so successful on your own,

677
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:54,359
you know you?

678
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely I would love to. It's on my

679
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,279
bucket list of things to do. I'm working on it

680
00:34:00,359 --> 00:34:03,279
fingers crossed because yeah, it would be really fun. That's

681
00:34:03,519 --> 00:34:06,279
you know, those are the places that I started watching,

682
00:34:06,519 --> 00:34:10,039
like real adult content. Like when I came of age,

683
00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:12,800
I had subscriptions to places as soon as I was

684
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,679
able to. So yeah, I would love to. It's it's

685
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,920
definitely it's high up on my to do list. But

686
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,920
I also love just doing you know, collabs or people

687
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,760
that do their own independent websites. Those are really really fun.

688
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,039
But yeah, I would love to shoot with some of

689
00:34:28,079 --> 00:34:29,039
the studios for sure.

690
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 1: Just don't say dot com at the end, But is

691
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,559
there one site that you specifically have your eye on

692
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,639
at all? I understand they're all wonderful, they're all great,

693
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,320
and we're all anyone with the job opportunity. Yes, everyone

694
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:44,599
with the job opportunity is phenomenal. We appreciate every one

695
00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:46,840
of them. But is there one? Really? Is there one

696
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,880
where you go Victoria malfoy should be a blank girl.

697
00:34:51,079 --> 00:34:54,519
Speaker 2: I would love to shoot with Team SKEI for sure.

698
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,199
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, We did a special for them, me

699
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,960
and my old co host with Kae Lovely one time.

700
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,599
Very cool. They are phenomenal to deal with. I've never

701
00:35:04,639 --> 00:35:07,880
heard bad stuff. I'm sure there are stories probably somewhere.

702
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 3: Someone has to so do really cool scenarios and tropes

703
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,480
that I'll be like I never thought of that, Like,

704
00:35:14,559 --> 00:35:15,440
that's so fine.

705
00:35:16,199 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 1: So that's my question to you, what do you think

706
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:23,880
of the current niches and trends and everything else important.

707
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,400
If you keep up on that, you seem like you

708
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:27,559
keep I feel.

709
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,519
Speaker 3: Like I will say, I feel like, if you're gonna

710
00:35:29,519 --> 00:35:31,159
do this and be serious about it, you have to

711
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,880
keep up with that stuff. You definitely do. Even when

712
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,760
I started doing audio, those change so Like when I

713
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,920
first started, monster girls were really popular, not so much anymore.

714
00:35:42,559 --> 00:35:49,039
During Lockdown it was family relations were really popular. That's

715
00:35:49,079 --> 00:35:51,320
always gonna be one that is because taboo stuff is

716
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,039
always people love that. It's the oh, we shouldn't be

717
00:35:54,039 --> 00:35:58,119
doing this, But yeah, I think it's I think it's

718
00:35:58,119 --> 00:36:01,079
really cool to see that amateur stuff is getting more popular.

719
00:36:01,199 --> 00:36:05,039
I see that bump up every year on the Hub,

720
00:36:05,119 --> 00:36:06,679
like when they release the thing at the end of

721
00:36:06,679 --> 00:36:10,400
the year. I love that MILFs get so much attention.

722
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,039
It's always one of those things that like, I was

723
00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:16,960
a teenager in the early two thousands and they very much.

724
00:36:17,079 --> 00:36:19,079
I'm sure you remember this made it seemed like after

725
00:36:19,119 --> 00:36:21,559
your twenty five, no one wants you.

726
00:36:22,559 --> 00:36:27,599
Speaker 1: Well, Unfortunately, I think that might be more of a

727
00:36:27,639 --> 00:36:28,400
female thing.

728
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 3: So it is definitely, but it was pushed on us

729
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,199
so hard, like after you're thirty, it's over, and I

730
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:40,000
think like getting older and seeing like, no, it's really not.

731
00:36:40,679 --> 00:36:43,559
And again, like you said, it's more of a they

732
00:36:43,599 --> 00:36:45,760
pushed that on like teenage girls. It's more of like

733
00:36:46,159 --> 00:36:50,360
a female thing. Yeah, men don't care. They love it,

734
00:36:51,119 --> 00:36:55,079
So I'm always super happy to see that. Yeah, those

735
00:36:55,079 --> 00:36:57,159
are the two that really stick out to me because

736
00:36:57,199 --> 00:37:00,440
when I first started watching videos, amateur stuff was the

737
00:37:00,519 --> 00:37:03,920
easiest to find and consume. And I still love watching

738
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,800
it because you can tell like they're really into it.

739
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,440
They're having fun, which is the thing that I look

740
00:37:09,519 --> 00:37:10,639
for at the end of the day.

741
00:37:10,679 --> 00:37:11,079
Speaker 1: I love that.

742
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:16,079
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm excited every single year to see what

743
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,840
is popular because it's never anything that I think it's

744
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,039
going to be. And I love going state by state

745
00:37:22,119 --> 00:37:25,280
to see what the people in that state are into.

746
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,039
Speaker 1: I like doing that too, especially when they publish it

747
00:37:28,039 --> 00:37:30,800
at the end. I enjoy that. Uh, you know, I

748
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,039
have a trend that I in my head. I was like,

749
00:37:34,079 --> 00:37:36,519
I'm gonna Stumper on this one. I'm gonna ask her

750
00:37:36,599 --> 00:37:39,760
how she would do an erotic fantasy about this topic.

751
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,119
Or niche. Oh I love it, but I think I

752
00:37:42,159 --> 00:37:43,679
figured it out. So if you don't figure it out,

753
00:37:43,679 --> 00:37:46,119
I think I have an answer. Okay, how would you

754
00:37:46,199 --> 00:37:50,199
do a free use for all of that? Okay?

755
00:37:50,559 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, free use is a very popular trope, especially in audio.

756
00:37:55,039 --> 00:37:56,199
Speaker 2: I've done a lot of that.

757
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 1: Okay.

758
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,880
Speaker 3: So one of my favorite ways to do it, and

759
00:38:00,039 --> 00:38:02,039
one that I think a lot of people it's warm

760
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,760
palatable for them, is like having a partner. So for example,

761
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,960
one of the role plays I've done is like boyfriend

762
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,440
girlfriend girlfriend has a pair of panties that she wears

763
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,800
when it's free use weekend, and you see those and

764
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,119
you know you can do it whenever you want. And

765
00:38:17,159 --> 00:38:20,199
that is like people really like that when it's very like,

766
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,840
oh this isn't scary or weird, like somebody don't.

767
00:38:23,679 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 2: Know, it's easy today.

768
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:25,760
Speaker 1: Okay.

769
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 2: If I had a girlfriend and like or my girlfriend

770
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,800
did this, okay, I can get on board with that.

771
00:38:31,119 --> 00:38:31,880
Other ways that.

772
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,559
Speaker 3: I've done that is I've done once where it's kind

773
00:38:34,599 --> 00:38:39,440
of like professor student vibe like teaching assistant, like you're

774
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,239
gonna give me a better grade and you can do

775
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,280
whatever you want whenever you want to do it, and

776
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,639
I think it's hot. Both are the ways that I've

777
00:38:46,639 --> 00:38:49,280
done it. I've seen it done a million different ways

778
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,079
from all types of other performers, but yeah, that's one

779
00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:53,920
of those. I really like it, And I had no

780
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,760
idea that was the thing until I started doing audio I.

781
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 1: See and that first. When I saw for you stuff,

782
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,480
I was like, how do I feel about this? Because

783
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,480
there are to me, there are a lot of different

784
00:39:03,519 --> 00:39:06,840
ways to interpret it. So of course you could interpret

785
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,719
it as dominant male coming to take what he wants

786
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,280
and walk on and whatever. You can also take it

787
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,480
in the way I took it, dominant female, who I

788
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,559
don't even need I'm not even worried about this guy.

789
00:39:18,599 --> 00:39:21,360
I'm fucking paying bills right now. Okay, he's throwing it

790
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,519
in me. I'm not even going to pay attention whatever.

791
00:39:23,639 --> 00:39:25,519
I think that was my thing where I was like, oh,

792
00:39:25,559 --> 00:39:28,119
there's a lot less anxiety on performance if she doesn't

793
00:39:28,159 --> 00:39:33,840
know I exist done. How do you interpret for you?

794
00:39:34,039 --> 00:39:36,199
Do you is it a give and take depends like

795
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,440
or do you like the idea of a guy taking

796
00:39:38,679 --> 00:39:39,880
kind of Yes, I.

797
00:39:40,519 --> 00:39:43,079
Speaker 2: Just like the idea that it's this.

798
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:50,519
Speaker 3: Scenario where either or party has this Like for me,

799
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,440
especially if I'm in more of like the submissive parts,

800
00:39:53,519 --> 00:39:56,360
like this is fun, Like I'm in control. You can

801
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,320
do whatever you want, but I'm letting you do it.

802
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,119
I'm giving you this to you to let you have fun.

803
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,280
So I love that aspect of it. I also like

804
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,119
the one of it's like kind of like you said,

805
00:40:06,159 --> 00:40:08,559
dominant mail, like, oh, I'm going to take this whatever.

806
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:13,000
I like free use too, because it's it goes up

807
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,599
to the line of kind of like non con or

808
00:40:15,639 --> 00:40:19,719
CNC without having to go over it because it's usually

809
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,880
discussed or another way that I've done it or seen

810
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,400
it done where it's like it's world building. So there's

811
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,639
world building where it's like it's a free use world.

812
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,880
People were just this is how everybody lives. Everybody's used

813
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:34,480
to it. And I love that one because then you

814
00:40:34,519 --> 00:40:37,679
can basically start any scenario you want and it makes

815
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,599
sense because oh, everybody does this.

816
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,760
Speaker 1: That's interesting. I never consider the free use atmosphere or

817
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,119
the whole environment type.

818
00:40:45,199 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 2: It's so cool.

819
00:40:46,119 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, So let's wrap this up with a few cup

820
00:40:49,559 --> 00:40:52,719
questions here, Where are we going? Where do you see

821
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,559
your career moving forward? You said you're very interested in

822
00:40:55,639 --> 00:40:59,519
moving into more mainstream stuff. You're very successful on your own, right.

823
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:02,599
Do you see yourself hitting a dollar goal and going

824
00:41:02,639 --> 00:41:05,440
I'm done. Do you see yourself one day at forty

825
00:41:05,639 --> 00:41:09,119
going I just don't feel like doing this anymore? Or

826
00:41:09,159 --> 00:41:11,760
do you see yourself making guilt point? I interviewed D. D.

827
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:16,920
White formally SAKEO my Gosvin b One. She still as

828
00:41:17,039 --> 00:41:20,199
what she refers to as BBC gang Bangs, that's what

829
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:25,559
she calls it. And I am blown away at this

830
00:41:25,639 --> 00:41:28,880
woman's desire and ability to keep working.

831
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm so impressed by that, and that is kind

832
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:37,800
of where I'm at. I have no age or number

833
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,960
that I think I'll stop at. I think one day

834
00:41:41,079 --> 00:41:42,880
it'll just be one of those things where I'm like,

835
00:41:43,639 --> 00:41:46,280
this isn't really doing it for me anymore. But what

836
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,719
I love about this job is like that doesn't even

837
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,800
matter because everything that I've made, I can leave it

838
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,239
up and people can enjoy it forever. That's one of

839
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,079
the reasons why I've liked making so much content is

840
00:41:57,119 --> 00:42:00,440
I'm like, I, honestly, could you know, go way for

841
00:42:00,519 --> 00:42:02,880
a year or whatever, and people still have tons of

842
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,199
stuff to enjoy or go through or whatever. So I

843
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:09,320
don't have a specific age that I'll stop. I could

844
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,079
be one. Honestly, it would be cool to be seventy

845
00:42:12,119 --> 00:42:14,320
and still being able to like do this. I would

846
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:19,559
love that. My my like immediate goals are I would

847
00:42:19,559 --> 00:42:22,840
love to do stuff like that's more mainstream. I tell

848
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,400
you all the time. Audio is always going to be

849
00:42:25,519 --> 00:42:29,159
my number one just because I have built such a

850
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,199
loyal I hate calling them. I like calling them like

851
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:37,360
listeners or whatever. I've built such a following and a

852
00:42:37,559 --> 00:42:40,559
listening like fan base of people that enjoy it that

853
00:42:40,599 --> 00:42:43,760
I would never stop. It's one of the reasons I

854
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,199
made my website so that people would like easily search

855
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:50,039
for things and find it. So yeah, I really would

856
00:42:50,119 --> 00:42:53,079
just love to take that further. I would love to

857
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,159
make it more known to people. It's one of the

858
00:42:56,199 --> 00:42:59,519
reasons I started putting audios on like the hub uh

859
00:42:59,679 --> 00:43:02,119
and there are so many other people doing that, and

860
00:43:02,159 --> 00:43:04,599
I think it's awesome because other people get to see, Oh,

861
00:43:04,679 --> 00:43:07,159
there's another type of media that I can enjoy if

862
00:43:07,199 --> 00:43:10,199
I can't do visual stuff. So yeah, I only want

863
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,840
to go up. It's like I'm world domination. That's what

864
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,960
I tell people. I'm joking, but just a little do

865
00:43:18,039 --> 00:43:18,679
you okay?

866
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:24,159
Speaker 1: So do you have any concerns about AI because you

867
00:43:24,199 --> 00:43:27,519
already have your established fan base? Right, Oh, let's just

868
00:43:27,599 --> 00:43:32,079
say I can get a voice generator and a chat

869
00:43:32,119 --> 00:43:37,480
GPT that does dirty talk and whatever could I create? Again,

870
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,400
You are good, I believe, because you've already established your

871
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,400
fan base. They know what they're getting from you. They

872
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,119
have a personal connection with you, which makes it different.

873
00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:47,360
But do you think someone could go out there and

874
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,480
kind of throw on some AI slop and be successful?

875
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:55,119
Speaker 3: In my opinion, no, I think AI is garbage. I

876
00:43:55,159 --> 00:43:59,800
think AI is great for certain things like building things.

877
00:44:00,079 --> 00:44:04,360
Ever for artists, I think it's it's garbage.

878
00:44:04,679 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 2: I've had.

879
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,159
Speaker 3: I've had my voice stolen once for something. I had

880
00:44:09,199 --> 00:44:12,800
it taken down. I don't like it. I think, especially

881
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,519
for audio, it's never gonna be good. Yeah, you can

882
00:44:15,599 --> 00:44:17,519
make it say whatever you wanted to say, but it

883
00:44:17,519 --> 00:44:22,519
has no personality, no feeling, no emotion behind it. It's

884
00:44:22,639 --> 00:44:26,800
just it's a computer. And you know, if people enjoy

885
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,000
that whatever, I'm not gonna knock it, but it's never

886
00:44:30,039 --> 00:44:32,280
gonna be as good. In my opinion, I don't think

887
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,840
it will. I also think it's lazy. If you're a

888
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,039
creator and you're like, oh, I don't I don't like

889
00:44:38,079 --> 00:44:39,639
my voice I'm gonna do then don't do it.

890
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,199
Speaker 2: Then don't do it. I also think the same thing

891
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:44,079
about pictures.

892
00:44:44,159 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 3: I see AI like, uh, onlyfan stuff, and I'm just like,

893
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,639
this is so either take the picture yourself or don't

894
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:56,039
the way around that, Like, if you you know you

895
00:44:56,079 --> 00:44:58,360
want to do visual stuff but you don't want people

896
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,440
to know who you are. I highly implore people to

897
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:05,639
do like a vtube model, And there are people that do.

898
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,760
It's called lude tubing and people do that, and you

899
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,960
can make it naked, you can do whatever. There are

900
00:45:12,079 --> 00:45:12,760
certain ways.

901
00:45:13,599 --> 00:45:17,079
Speaker 1: Gosh, I'll be honest with it. Even you're good you

902
00:45:17,119 --> 00:45:19,199
can't hear it. I don't think it's isolated. Yeah, so

903
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,440
if it's bothering you, definitely I can.

904
00:45:21,679 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 2: If you can't. If you can't hear it, I will

905
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:24,679
talk through it, Okay.

906
00:45:25,639 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 3: So in regards to like pictures and stuff like that,

907
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:32,760
I also think that's that's garbage. I don't think that

908
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,159
it's ever going to give people the same kind of

909
00:45:36,199 --> 00:45:38,119
connection that you're going to get from a human who's

910
00:45:38,119 --> 00:45:42,159
making something, drawing something, recording something. It's never it's never

911
00:45:42,199 --> 00:45:44,920
going to be the same, so I worry. I know

912
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,039
that someone could technically take my voice, take my picture.

913
00:45:48,079 --> 00:45:49,840
I've had it happen with my voice. I've had it

914
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,639
happen with the art that I commission. If my character

915
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:57,599
it happens, it looks, in my opinion, like shit, sounds

916
00:45:57,639 --> 00:46:00,920
like shit. So I'm not worried about it, but I

917
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:02,760
know it is a thing, and it is something that

918
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,119
a lot of us, especially in audio, worried about, like

919
00:46:05,159 --> 00:46:07,639
what if someone gets us in It actually sounds close

920
00:46:07,639 --> 00:46:09,159
and makes me say something crazy.

921
00:46:10,119 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 2: But yeah, I.

922
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 3: Hope that it doesn't get that way anytime soon, and

923
00:46:15,119 --> 00:46:17,360
people use AI for different things. But yeah, it is

924
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,119
a worry. Definitely worry about it. It's one of the

925
00:46:19,159 --> 00:46:20,360
reasons I got lawyers.

926
00:46:22,119 --> 00:46:25,519
Speaker 1: Last question. This is an odd one only because you

927
00:46:25,519 --> 00:46:27,760
would think people that are in this industry would have

928
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:32,679
the common answer, and instead I get a different common answer.

929
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:37,079
So again, no judgment. It's just strictly a question like

930
00:46:37,119 --> 00:46:41,199
a whatever something, how you feel, what age should it?

931
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,239
What age should women be to be able to get

932
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:52,000
into this industry? And we'll run through it at the end,

933
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,360
but you tell me what do you think and if

934
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:54,480
you have a thought process on that.

935
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I have a couple of different thought processes

936
00:46:58,159 --> 00:47:02,280
in one side of my brain. I think twenty one

937
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:07,920
and up is probably smartest. However, I do know that

938
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:12,280
when I was like younger and didn't have a means

939
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:13,920
to make money right away, Like I talked about it

940
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,400
at the beginning of this that I was nineteen when

941
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:22,679
I started, so I was able to pay my bills

942
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,480
and do whatever. And I know for a lot of

943
00:47:24,519 --> 00:47:28,920
people dancing things like that, making and only fans, it

944
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,199
is out of necessity.

945
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:31,280
Speaker 2: They need to do it.

946
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Speaker 3: It isn't like they like doing it, I'm sure, but

947
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,719
like it is to pay the bills. So for that,

948
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I always stick with eighteen because I know I've been there,

949
00:47:42,199 --> 00:47:44,480
I've had friends that have been there, and it is

950
00:47:44,559 --> 00:47:46,840
it's a way to get yourself out of the hole.

951
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 2: Sometimes that is.

952
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,039
Speaker 1: That that is like the most common thing. It's it's

953
00:47:52,159 --> 00:47:56,559
the it's the performer telling me twenty one and then struggle,

954
00:47:56,639 --> 00:47:59,239
not that you did, but struggling to realize, like, hey,

955
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,639
there are there are others that What it always comes

956
00:48:02,639 --> 00:48:05,920
down to is maturity, right, Oh, totally, yeah, you were.

957
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:08,920
I also do a side show where I interview new

958
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,719
performers coming into the industry, and a horror story I

959
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:15,440
heard eighteen year old girl. And it's not as, it's

960
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,000
not graphics, so it's just right right, like I'm not

961
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,119
going to hit you with something horrendous here, But no,

962
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,880
I didn't think So he flew across the country on

963
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,360
her own dime because she would be reimbursed, got to

964
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:29,280
the hotel where she'd be reimbursed. Eighteen year old girl.

965
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,480
Guy just never picked up the phone after that, never

966
00:48:32,559 --> 00:48:36,400
answered again. And you go, well, look, I know thirty

967
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,239
year olds who could fall for that too.

968
00:48:38,559 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 3: So eight of course it happened to people in their

969
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,719
twenties and their thirty stories. It happens to people all

970
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,199
the time. You have people ghost you, flake on you, whatever. Yeah,

971
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,760
it happens all the time. It's not because they're eighteen.

972
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,559
Speaker 1: We came to kind of a consensus, and I'm not

973
00:48:53,639 --> 00:48:55,920
asking you to join in with this Consensu's just you know,

974
00:48:56,599 --> 00:49:03,800
where every time I asked this, maybe only one for hardcore, okay, eighteen,

975
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,400
nineteen twenty, you could do solo, you could do only

976
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:09,400
it's not meant.

977
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Speaker 2: To limit that kind of thing.

978
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:14,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, sure, it's more just a safety concern.

979
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Speaker 3: And again, look and honestly I think I mean I

980
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,920
would get on. I think that makes sense. It makes

981
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:24,639
total sense because you know, until I was probably like

982
00:49:25,119 --> 00:49:27,960
twenty two or twenty three, I don't think I would

983
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,800
have done like irl stuff like with a partner, because

984
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,199
I was like, hmm, am I going to be the

985
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:34,599
way that I want to be in the scene has

986
00:49:34,639 --> 00:49:36,920
nothing to do with them. So yeah, I agree with that.

987
00:49:37,039 --> 00:49:39,199
It is definitely an emotional maturity thing.

988
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:39,639
Speaker 2: That's sure.

989
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:41,760
Speaker 1: Sure, let's not make it a law, but.

990
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,599
Speaker 2: Let's let's yeah, let's.

991
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,559
Speaker 1: Convey to people, hey, maybe starting this slow if you

992
00:49:46,679 --> 00:49:47,880
really want to make it a career.

993
00:49:48,079 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 2: Totally I agree with that for sure.

994
00:49:50,039 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 1: All Right, ladies and gentlemen, my guest tonight, Victoria Malfoy.

995
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,920
You can find her exactly where you think you can

996
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:00,960
find her at snaky smut s nak e y s

997
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E m u T, patreon dot com, slash sneak snaky.

998
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 2: I know it's a tongue twister.

999
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's not that my mouth is just dry.

1000
00:50:10,039 --> 00:50:12,880
I'm tired, but I have loved talking to you. You

1001
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:13,559
are so insighted.

1002
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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, thank you. It's been so much fun.

1003
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Speaker 1: You're not terrible to look at, which is a very

1004
00:50:18,119 --> 00:50:21,920
nice thing at the end of the day. And I

1005
00:50:22,039 --> 00:50:26,639
just I think you are so fascinating in such a

1006
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,280
creative You've.

1007
00:50:28,119 --> 00:50:31,159
Speaker 2: Made it my day. Thank you so much, ladies and gentlemen.

1008
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: Victoria Malfoy, Victoria, thank you so much for coming on

1009
00:50:33,519 --> 00:50:34,840
with me and night so much for having me.

1010
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Speaker 2: I hope we get to come back sometimes