Speaker 1: Victoria Malfoy, my guest for the evening. You know exactly
where you can find her at snaky Smut. Links to
all of our social media are in the episode description,
but I want to send you over to her patreon,
patreon dot com slash snaky smut. What you're gonna find
there is audio content and we're going to dive into
that today. Please make sure you support the content creators
who come on the show, Otherwise they don't come on
the show anymore. Victoria, it's a pleasure to have you
on tonight. Thank you.
Speaker 2: It's a pleasure to be here. Thanks so much for
having me.
Speaker 1: So I normally start with the question everyone starts with,
but I want to do it a little differently because
I have a different one to start. What to be
going with? Okay, how do you define your job title?
Speaker 3: I to find my job title is I wear mini hats.
I do lots of different things, but I kind of
keep myself under the umbrella of adult entertainer.
Speaker 1: All right, yeah, adult entertainer and the adult content creator.
Speaker 2: Maybe also also that too, Yes.
Speaker 1: So now let's go to my actual number one question here.
How did you initially decide to get into the adult
entertainment industry. What was the last hurdle you went over
and went fuck it, new job.
Speaker 3: So it's a really it's kind of an interesting story.
I've been in the adult entertainment industry off and on
for like almost fifteen years. My initial start in it
was around twenty eleven. I had just moved from my
home state and I had moved to a new place.
I was perfectly happy to start my vanilla job that
I had all lined up, and then circumstances happened and
I needed money like quick. So the first thing in
my head was, I thought strip clubs always have like
amateur night. But that is not a thing that happens
very often, I have learned. So one of my friends
hooked me up with a interview at Cheetahs, and that
pretty much kicked everything off. I've always been a very
sexual persons never bothered me, so I kind of took
to it like a fish to water, and that was
my jumping off point. And then I've been off and on,
and then I would say, probably luckily a few minutes
or a few minutes a few months before COVID started,
I was introduced to the wonderful world of audio erotica,
and I dove into that and that's been kind of
the catalyst for everything ever since. I've have never had
a vanilla job since then, and I'm happy about it.
It's great. I'm really blessed. I get to do this
all the time. That's super creative. But yeah, that's basically
how it started, stopped, restarted.
Speaker 2: Again, and then I through doing.
Speaker 3: Audio, I moved into doing visual because I'd always done
that previously, even before OnlyFans was around. So adding that
and then the past, oh, I guess since May I
have done more of the IRL stuff with other partners,
and yeah, that's kind of where I'm at now.
Speaker 1: So you said twenty eleven is when you start on this.
Let me say, if people are just listening to this
and not watching the video, I literally crunched the numbers
in my head and I went, was she ten years old?
How does this work? You look phenomenal. Whatever age you are,
I will not ask you look amazing.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much. I don't tell my exact age.
I'm in my thirties, but thank you. I really appreciate that.
Speaker 1: No, I don't know you, and there's so much to
dive into. So I reached down and I was talking
to one of the PR people. They recommended you, and
I'll be honest, I was ready to wrap for my season.
My wife and I always take a vacation at Halloween.
I think you'll like this. Maybe are you? Are you
a halloween person? I am.
Speaker 2: I'm a spooky person. I can't see it. I have
horror stuff all behind me.
Speaker 1: You want that where do we go for Halloween? You
tell me? I would think Salem. You Salem, Massachusetts every year?
Room great? And then I look through. I go, Okay,
she's hot. But like I've you know, talked to a
lot of hot girls. Let's see, and I go, what
the hell does she do? This is awesome? She does
some really incredible stuff. What is your whole audio? You say? Like,
what did you say in there? You said something where
you were like I was introduced to the world of
audio literature erotica type yeah, and I went like this, okay,
I was interested to introduce to it about thirty eight
minutes ago. So you know that's interesting. Can you tell
me what it is?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: I get the concept of it, but yeah.
Speaker 2: It's it's really exciting.
Speaker 3: I love talking about it because it's it's just now
becoming more i'd say mainstream, like people kind of know
what it is.
Speaker 2: I had no idea what it was.
Speaker 3: So the way I describe it to people is it
is like a radio play is from back in the day,
but they're spicy. So basically it is a one sided
audio roleplay. So for example, it's me talking and it's
the listener can self insert themselves. So a lot of
people find it easier to consume because there there isn't
anything visual. They can picture whoever they want. Obviously I'm
face out. People will know what I look like. They
can picture whoever they want. They can look however they want,
be whoever they want, and it's it's a fun outlet
for that. So yeah, I think a radio play is
the best way to describe it. We do collabse sometimes,
so it'll be two voices, three four and then just
you know, the listener does not speak. But yeah, that's
that's the best way to describe it. I had never
heard about it. When I heard about it, I was like, Wow,
that's really cool.
Speaker 1: I had on Cubby Thompson and I asked her the question.
One of the most beautiful people in the world. I
asked her the question the calendars on her website. Does
she order them in advance or do you place an
order when you know how many purchases I've had on
Lana Violet Amazing Born star Dominatrix. My question to her
was do you need insurance when shooting scenes like that?
So my question to you, and I legitimately think this
is a good question, And everyone listening goes, oh, this
guy's an actual idiot. Do you do fuley work as
well during your thing? So?
Speaker 3: I have my folly for the most part pre recording
so fully that I do live in every audio are
bj sounds, kind of linga sounds, anything kind of like
that I do. As I'm recording other things, I will
record previously and we edit them in after. But yeah,
I do a lot of my own fully work. A
lot of people do. A lot of people make all
of their sound efect. It's kind of like I do beforehand,
and they have techniques for it. There's like there's a
whole array of like tutorials that I've been given.
Speaker 2: It's crazy. Yeah, it's it's very in depth.
Speaker 1: It's no, it's so cool and I'm not just like
like if it was you know, only kind of cool.
I'd be like, oh, that's great for you. No, I'm
actually like excited to learn about this. I got a
new Patreon and go sign up for It's like good, Okay,
when did you, oh say you were introduced to it?
But when you first were introduced to it, were you like,
I don't know, don't people want to see picture? Like
did you have any reservations about it? Or did you
just think great idea right away?
Speaker 3: So I had some reservations. I thought it was a
great idea because there are people that I like loved
listening to people with accents for example, or I can
tell when someone has a really nice voice and I
immediately be like, oh, yeah, that's nice. So I understood
the concept. But initially I had really no interest in recording.
I just kind of wanted to write because I found
erotica online for the first time through fan fiction, so
I'm a big fanfic person. I always wrote that, so
I thought I can write scripts for this. This will
be fun. And then someone suggested They're like, no, really,
you should record. You should try it, trust me, And
once I did, I was like, oh, I really like this.
I have an acting kink, so I love acting that
totally meets it. I also, many many years ago, people
have always told me that my voice sounded like a
phone sex operator, so I feel like I'm kind of
fulfilling the prophecy for that. But yeah, I definitely did
not think that I would enjoy it as much as
I did, or that it would be as creatively fulfilling
for me as it has been. But it totally is,
and it's really nice. I love doing visual stuff and
always will, but it is really nice sometimes just to
wake up and be like, I think I'm going to
be a pirate today, so I'm gonna go record this
and I don't have to do anything to do bad.
Speaker 1: Let me have do you know It? All your demographics
on Patreon only, because anytime I've interviewed a female performer
who's really into like written literature, erotica type stuff, I'm like, oh,
so do you know guys who are into that? And
most of them are like, no, not really, or they
tell me like, I do a lesbian video for me
and I'm like, oh, that's so great is that and
they go it's the worst seller, and I'm like, oh,
all right, well, guys are kind of typically, but are
you finding you're also bringing women to things like your Patreon.
Is it mostly men? Do you have any idea?
Speaker 3: It's it's mostly men I have. I have a smaller
demographic of women or non binary or trans that listen
to me. So I do make that content. I really should,
and I say this all the time. I should make
more of it. But my audience, again is mostly men
that I have found. So yeah, I would love to
have more because it's it's fun for me. I'm bisexual,
so I like making audios for women in non binary
and trans.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: It's I love it all I've done. I've done lots
of audios like that, but definitely my main focus is
usually male.
Speaker 1: Actually sure, I only say that because I think, I mean,
I have such low opinion of men, and that's my
own thing, because I have such a low opinion of
myself that I think, like, you know, most guys would
probably be like, oh, I need a visual, I need
something to you. You have such good quality content. You're
drawing them in and they can see you too. They
know they can go find stuff with your face on
your picture, and yet they still want to hear not
just your voice but what you're writing, your your you know,
oh is she going to do this in the story?
Oh she did?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.
Speaker 3: It's really different because I myself, yeah, I would honestly
think that men would prefer to have something visual. But
I have found a lot of people not that they care,
but I've had some people be like, I don't look
at the places that you have, like your face, because
I don't want to put a face to it, which
is fine. I totally get it. That's that's totally fine.
But yeah, it is. It's really interesting. I definitely when
I first started doing this thought like this has got
to like cap at some point, Like people have to
like get tired of this at some point, right, I
hope they don't. It's fun, but but no, people are
really into it. And I've had some listeners who have
been on my Patreon or like in my discord that
have been there for like years since like I started,
and it is.
Speaker 2: Something they really really enjoy.
Speaker 3: And I think the main part is is like there's
nothing either to compare yourself to or that you have
to like visualize, or maybe you don't really like this thing,
but you have to look at it to enjoy it.
Speaker 2: It can literally be.
Speaker 1: Whatever let's would you mind, I want to go over
one of your tweets and maybe we could delve into
that deeper. Okay, yeah, totally September first, Okay, let's chat.
I completely understand that some people have found me recently,
but I have and face out and doing in real
life content for five years. If you can't handle the
duality of me or my character slash brand, no harm,
no foul, I wish you the best. So first off,
sweet message weird. I wouldn't think I personally, I wouldn't
think like if I was only into audio wise and
then I saw you and I'm like, oh my god,
because when I hear phone sex operator, I think Snickers
wrappers and skin tags personally on a gorgeous voice. That's
just my impression, because I know if I had a
good voice, I would be trying to fool people. But
you put the visual to it, I would think it
would enhance it. But it seems like you do have
some people who are like, no, it's it's.
Speaker 3: Mostly and I will be honest, and this is no
offense to the YouTube crowd, but it is mostly people
from YouTube who have found me through my completely safer
work stuff. The people that find me through not safer
work stuff are very accepting. They don't care, it's whatever.
It's really the people that find me just for my
like holy like safer work like audio role plays that
have a real issue with it. And I don't really
know why, but yeah, it's become a thing. Or I'll
have people come over to my YouTube and like, oh
have you seen her on Orange YouTube? Like it's not
a secret, I'm not hiding it. I've always I've always guys.
Speaker 1: Are trying to like throw you under the bus, like
hey bug, way you guys know she does this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a very puritanical thing. I've also had a
like a YouTube model made to do that kind of
like content in future, and I know that there is
a thing in that, in that whole genre of people
that they don't want to know what the person behind
that looks like. So I think that I have, through
doing safer work stuff, attracted people that are kind of
in that mindset, which is totally fine. But yeah, it
was getting to a certain point where I was like, Okay,
I'm going to bring this up because it's actually starting
to bother me.
Speaker 1: You sound like a person who does know what you're
doing online though, Like you threw out a few different
things in there that I went, I don't know what
the fuck that is? Okay, keep smiling at her. Do
you have to stay engaged online? Understand what new things
are coming out, Understand which social media is the hot
one right now? Do you have to stay on top
of that stuff?
Speaker 2: I think so.
Speaker 3: I think that this is a job where you really
do have to keep up with stuff to a certain degree.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: I know, and like people that I know that we
try and like say, Okay, I have this much time
online and then I will give myself a break, And
that's really what I do, because I feel like if
you're on all the time, it is detrimental to your
mental health. But yeah, I kind of came to terms
with it a couple of years ago that because of
the nature of this job, you just have to be online.
I know that people would say, like, oh, they're chronically online.
We kind of have to be, because you do. You
have to keep up with trends or new social media
or this platform is and allowing this to anymore, so okay,
we have to go remove it now.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, it's a lot to keep up with.
Speaker 1: I always ask this question that I don't think it
will apply to you, but I go I normally ask like,
did you realize that shooting porn was going to take
up five percent of your day and the rest was
social media, editing book? But it sounds like you may
have had that. You might have known that coming into this.
Speaker 3: I had a little bit of an inkling, and yeah,
it was kind of from doing the audio stuff, like, yeah,
so this audio took me twenty minutes to record, for example,
but it's going to take four hours to edit it.
So I kind of had an idea going in. But
when I first started doing all of this like online,
because everything I had done up until that was in person.
Dancing is obviously in person, so I had no idea.
I had no idea. I thought it would be a
lot quicker and you could just kind of like afterwards,
like you know, go about your day. But no, you
have to if you wanted to become a business over
a hobby, you do really have to, like lock in.
Speaker 1: Do you think you could be as successful as you
are now if for some reason you want it to
take a step back from the in real life stuff.
Do you think you could dedicate your time to your
other stuff and then eventually build that and make it,
you know, to fill in the other that you get
from the IRL.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 3: I if I had never done like OnlyFans and had
just stayed audio, I had made it a thing to
like grind how I used to post like free audios
like three times a week when I first started. So yeah,
I know that if I really was like, you know what,
I'm kind of sick of doing this, I'm just going
to go back to doing only audio. I'm sure that
I could one hundred percent. I'm one of those people though.
I really do like being face out and doing that,
so I'll definitely do it as long as I can really,
But yeah, I have thought about that before, because there
have been thoughts of like what if I get sick
or like whatever. I do have like a plethora of
audios that I could at least like supplement.
Speaker 1: Now I'm just a miserable old white guy, so I
don't know what's going on in culture? Can you explain
to me and my audience, which I assume they're probably
just like middle aged guys as well. Good for you,
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in there? Good? Thank you. Let me ask this, how
would you classify? Oh? Let me finish my question ASMR.
I don't know anything about ASMR. I hear it sounds
that people make and then you feel tangly and mostly
that for me is dirty talk. So I don't know
what ASMR is. I feel tangly once girls talk dirty
to me. Can you explain to me and my audience
what ASMR is and how it is applied in the
adult entertainment industry or how you apply that? Sure?
Speaker 3: So ASMR how you just described it is exactly what
it is. When it comes to the role plays like
we're doing on YouTube, sometimes it is ASMR, but that
is very whispery. You're doing like crinkly noises, it's binurmal
so using like the three deal microphone going from ear
to ear that kind of thing that is traditionally ASMR,
and there are lots of role plays like that, but
how we use the tag ASMR isn't really ASMR for
the most part. It's just I don't know how that
started or if it started the other way and kind
of morphed into whatever. But now people who enjoy that
just kind of take it as it's an audio roleplay.
Speaker 2: That's what it is.
Speaker 3: So yeah, and that's how it is on other sites
like the hub everywhere. Because at first I was a
little confused. I was like, this isn't this isn't ASMR,
but it it is. It's just what they that's what
they've called it.
Speaker 1: Gotcha, gotcha categorize did that way? Sorry? Regular as some
more though, do you have you ever watched it? Then?
Do you experience the feeling of gift? I've tried, but
I've been.
Speaker 3: Like, it has to be specific people definitely, Yeah, I can't.
I don't get it from everything. It's very it's specific videos.
Speaker 1: That I have found.
Speaker 3: I have a couple of friends who will do ASMR,
like live on Twitch, and that'll get me. It's more
so like the crinkly noises, the whispering doesn't really do
it for me, but yeah, I have experienced it.
Speaker 2: I definitely have.
Speaker 3: I've done it in a couple of audios and listened
back and been like, ooh, I feel the tingles.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm gonna have what is your least favorite sound?
Speaker 2: Ooh, least favorite sound?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: Other people chewing? Oh, I can't stand it.
Speaker 1: Can die? Yeah they yeah, don't no, don't die. But
like that makes me really angry. Not even just chewing though, too.
Like I have to have music or TV on with
my wife when we're eating only because and she not
a mouth open eater or any of that.
Speaker 2: Right, it's just the noises, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's masticating whatever the term is. It's gross.
Speaker 2: I agree totally.
Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about Okay, see again, guys, you
have to check out the links in the episode description.
She has so much. I'm trying to get into section
two here about the content, and I go, where the
fuck do I even start with this? I know there's
so much we've talked about the audio. Let's talk about
the erotic literature real quick? Yeah, what type? I mean?
Are you just writing stories? I also used to like
writing too, and then I found out it's a lot
easier to talk into a microphone, which you do as well.
I mean, my god, do you have any time for
yourself in the day.
Speaker 3: I do surprisingly make time for myself. It's something that people,
especially on my discorder, like, oh my god, do you
ever rest? And I'm like, I do, I really do.
It's it's probably how I don't burn out and can
do as much as I do, because I really I
take lots of breaks.
Speaker 2: People just don't see it. We're hear it.
Speaker 3: But yeah, writing wise, I don't get to freely creatively
write as much as I used to. But I do
have an ongoing fanfic that I write with one of
my friends that I've been friends with in the audio
sphere for a really long time, and we go back
and forth at least once a month, and it's huge.
Speaker 2: It's long.
Speaker 3: Not anything we could ever make money off of, because
obviously fanfic usually the characters belong to someone else. But
it's just for fun. I used to write scripts quite
a bit. You can still read them. I think there's
like a link to them on my website. I don't
really post them much anymore, just because I don't spend
as much time on Reddit anymore where I started audio.
But that was something that I really enjoyed because it's
a nice way to write erotica quickly because you're not
having to detail everything. It's just a one sided conversation.
It makes things easier. But yeah, I love writing. It's
one of the first things I ever found that I
was good at. I won a bunch of awards long
time ago, like in high school and stuff, but so
I know I'm a good writer, and it is something like,
one day in the future, once I've retired, I would
love to write my own erotica and just like self published,
that's the dream one day.
Speaker 1: Well, let me ask, is there any desire then to
write out or do you ever write like scenes? Do
you do dialogue in any of the stuff you may shoot,
or you enjoy collaborating on or anything like that? Have
you ever tried to sneak dialogue in somewhere with the collaboration,
Like do you think maybe they should talk a little first.
Speaker 3: Or write to the fucking sorry go ahead, but no, no,
you're fine, so funny enough. Ninety nine percent of the
things that I do audio wise are improvised. I find
it much easier to just sit and get in front
of my microphone and I'm like, Okay, I'm gonna do this.
Speaker 2: Cool, I'm gonna gap.
Speaker 3: I used to write everything for myself or get free
scripts or whatever. I have lots of friends that they
pump out like ten audios a month, and they write
scripts for every single one. I could never my ADHD
would never allow it, So I improvise pretty much everything.
When it comes to collabse, I will usually commission really
really talented script writers from our kind of sphere to
write it. I commission a few scripts every month just
to give my brain a break. But yeah, there are
a couple times every year where I get like a
little bug that I want to write something for myself,
so I do. But for the most part it's all improvised,
which I know people are always like, wow, that's that's crazy,
But it's the way that I do it.
Speaker 2: It's easier for me.
Speaker 1: It's definitely a little bit crazy, only because I feel
like I would stubble stumble kind of halfway through and
being shit, well what are they going to do now?
Shirts off? Okay, all right, how about videos? Let's enter that.
Where when did you decide? And again, according to this
post you've been doing in real life content for five years.
I wasn't. I wasn't aware, So I apologize for that.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, that's totally okay, and I mean by that.
I started my Only Fans pretty shortly after starting my
audio thing. So I started audio in like August of
twenty nineteen, and then I started doing OnlyFans in July
of twenty twenty, and it was just like, well, we're
in lockdown and I already am like doing audio, so
this would be fun. I never got to have an
only fans when they first started, so yeah, let's do it.
So that's when I started doing it. And I did
like solo stuff for a really long time, just my
own things. I would do a lot of videos that
would be like pov so kind of like my audio.
And then it was just in March of last year
that my friend and I she's also in the audio community.
Her name is looking for My Blue Sky, we decided,
why don't we just get together and make a video.
I don't think anybody from our little neck of the
woods has done that yet, so we did, and I
was like, oh, it's a lot of fun. So I'd
say at the beginning of this year, I went to
EXBIS for the first time, met a lot of people,
and I'm like, you know what, I think I'm going
to start doing it. So it's been May of this
year that I started doing like irl stuff with partners,
so like boy girl scenes, boy girl girl, that kind
of stuff. But yeah, I've been doing like my own,
like solo stuff for five years.
Speaker 1: So the first time though that you're deciding you're going
to put your face out there and maybe you're not
wearing any clothes with it, did you have Was it
anxiety or excitement? Was it a mix of both? Was
it more of one than the other? Like I think
I would be elated that I'm gonna do something big,
and then as soon as I hit submit, I and go,
oh fuck, everyone's seen me now.
Speaker 3: So for me, I'm a bit of an exhibitionist and
so I had no qualms, but I was excited to
do it. I think that probably is from being a dancer.
If I had never done that before and I had
just done this, it would have been a mix of
both for sure. But I think it was like, I've
taken my clothes off for hundreds of people before, So whatever,
you okay, let's all right, we've done we did the audio,
we did literature.
Speaker 1: Let's do the only fans even more. Let's dive into
that a little bit. You have a ton of stuff
on there. Sometimes I'll click on like an established performers
thing and I'll say, like four hundred things and there's
a mix of you know, a couple of videos and
this and that. You have thousands and thousands of pieces
of content on there. Do you work on a regular
update schedule? Is it something you break down? Is it well,
I look out today, snap send it out? What is
you like if I'm signing up at snaky smut, where
what am I going to get out of this? Not
that sounds really aggressive in it?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I totally know that makes sense.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: That's fine.
Speaker 3: So basically for filming for me, even when I was
doing it like just myself, like not doing like photo
shoots and having pictures, basically would block off like a
day a week and uh, just film different stuff, change outfits,
as I tell people, it's the best way to do it.
And then that way you have like like four weeks
of content if you really like space it out, or
even if you post every day if you take enough pictures,
you have tons of stuff for videos and stuff. I
definitely would pick the day that I'm feeling Okay, I'm
feeling it today, let's do it. I don't ever do
anything if I'm not feeling it because I feel like
it'll just it'll suck. I can tell that it's bad.
I feel like other people could. So that's that's pretty
much what I still do now these days, I do
work with some photographers and just do like solo content.
So now it's a little bit easier to be like, Okay,
I have this, this and this, and then I can
do one or two days a month where I'm like
changing outfits and doing my own stuff. But that's how
I built it up. So there's that much content. Is
just I have days and I'm like, I'm feeling creative today,
I'm going to go throw them up and do this.
But that's the only way I've done that.
Speaker 1: So I see you shot a scene as I'm scrolling back,
not very florure pinned one shot a scene with flesh mechanic, right,
that's right, Uh huh, Okay, I have never met this gentleman,
but as I'm watching this trailer, are you, Okay, this
seems like an intense shoot, and how does a shoot
like that? Is this outside of your personality and your
comfort zone? Is this of pushing your limits or is
this like right in your comfort zone and we all
don't realize it. That's really in my comfort zone. And
anybody that has listened to my audios for short time
or long time, well know I can go from being
very like vanilla and bubbly and sweet to like pretty
hardcore like that, use me whatever, I'm just here, to
being kind of dommy. I run the spectrum for that
in particular, I know it was really intense as a
flash Mechanic is one of the nicest people I like,
And that's usually how it is.
Speaker 3: I tell people all the time, I do taboo content
and we're all just regular people. We're not scary monsters
like lurking in the shadows. For that scene in particular,
because I did have a couple of people be like, WHOA,
there is like an extensive talk beforehand we recorded. It's
all very very consensual. Actually before we shot, he was like, Okay,
do you want to do something like more chill today
or are you feeling more like the rough vibe? And
I literally said, do you leave stuff on here?
Speaker 1: Oh? You say whatever you want?
Speaker 2: Okay, okay.
Speaker 3: I literally was like, I would love to do something rough.
I'm here to have fun. Fuck me up, and he
was like, oh, okay, sure. So it is very much
keeping on brand with me. I have some kinks that
evenite people that listen to me all the time are like,
I love your stuff, but I can't even do that, Like.
Speaker 1: Can I ask for one of those? Sure?
Speaker 3: Not that people wouldn't expect from you. Oh, okay, one
they wouldn't expect.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I threw a purple at the end there.
You can just tell me when you like, that's perfectly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, that's okay.
Speaker 3: So something that was in that that people do have
a lot of problem with is face slapping. A lot
of people have a big issue with that, and I
totally get it. But what I try and tell people
is like, the person in the scene who's doing this
lapping has probably extensively trained and they know exactly where
to do it, and it looks a lot worse than
it actually is. It's really just the sound.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So that's when that people are always like, only.
Speaker 1: They don't know, you know what people sometimes have a
problem differentiating in this industry and again preferences. My theory
has always been is, as long as there's no kids
or dogs in a room, I don't give a shit
what consenting adults they're.
Speaker 2: On the same page. Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it may not be my thing. I might not
be into it, but at the same I might think
it's fucking weird, but I might. I'm not gonna throw
it at you and be like your baby.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna keep shaming Yeah you do you do you?
Speaker 1: Okay? I think people might feel that way because there
are some performers who, again not shaming them or anything,
and I won't even call them out by name. Enjoy
the stuff that crosses from rough into violent yea, yeah, yeah,
I say you stop at rough or yeah.
Speaker 3: I think I toe the line maybe just a little bit,
but I definitely have not ventured over that, which I
have no problem with people that do. But yeah, there
are some people that are into like closed fist hitting.
I have never done that. It's fun to watch, but yeah,
I don't cross that line. There are certain ones that
I'm like, I'm not sure, do.
Speaker 1: You have any desire in the future to shoot for
any of the big mainstream name sites. And I apologize.
I've tried to look up your your past scenes on
here in a middle. That's totally okay. Let's do a
thing real quick. I like to call stat check, So
stat check we use the Internet Adult Film Database. Okay, okay,
that doesn't include any of these scenes you shot over
here or this or these people you worked with. It
is dogshit numbers that make no sense to anyone, and
they're not real, but they're a good marker because then
when I have you on a year from now and
you're like, now, I'm a billionaire and I have all
these av and we can go, Hey, Victoria, remember back
when you had shot in nine scenes on record? I
have here males, you've worked with six females, you've worked
with three, no AVN nominations and no wins yet. Correct, Yes,
that's correct, all right, folks were back. We took a
dog break real quick. I'm a cat person, so.
Speaker 2: I love to totally understand you.
Speaker 1: Also, as I'm scrolling through your Twitter, which I'll probably
be doing just the rest of the night, your pictures,
maakeup is top notch. Let me say that, thank you
so much. That might be the single gayest thing I'll say.
And my wife show back me up on it. Your
make up beautiful, love it? Thank you? Uh?
Speaker 3: Can I ask how would you define your style? Yeah,
that's a great question. I usually tell people my style
is like goth bimbo. I'm very goth, but I also
love wearing pink and like fluffy stuff, so yeah, I'm
very like glam goth goth bimbo vibes.
Speaker 1: Yeah. See, I grew early two thousands. I would have
said goth. I would have said punk, like that was
my when I was like four.
Speaker 3: Kelly, Yeah, yes, I loved it. You all started somewhere.
I started as a scene kid on MySpace, So it's
the evolution.
Speaker 1: Sure, there you go. It's the great. Yeah, that's exactly it.
Do you want to shoot for the mainstream guys, the
big name sites? Like do you have a desire for that?
Because you should leave you're so successful on your own,
you know you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely I would love to. It's on my
bucket list of things to do. I'm working on it
fingers crossed because yeah, it would be really fun. That's
you know, those are the places that I started watching,
like real adult content. Like when I came of age,
I had subscriptions to places as soon as I was
able to. So yeah, I would love to. It's it's
definitely it's high up on my to do list. But
I also love just doing you know, collabs or people
that do their own independent websites. Those are really really fun.
But yeah, I would love to shoot with some of
the studios for sure.
Speaker 1: Just don't say dot com at the end, But is
there one site that you specifically have your eye on
at all? I understand they're all wonderful, they're all great,
and we're all anyone with the job opportunity. Yes, everyone
with the job opportunity is phenomenal. We appreciate every one
of them. But is there one? Really? Is there one
where you go Victoria malfoy should be a blank girl.
Speaker 2: I would love to shoot with Team SKEI for sure.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, We did a special for them, me
and my old co host with Kae Lovely one time.
Very cool. They are phenomenal to deal with. I've never
heard bad stuff. I'm sure there are stories probably somewhere.
Speaker 3: Someone has to so do really cool scenarios and tropes
that I'll be like I never thought of that, Like,
that's so fine.
Speaker 1: So that's my question to you, what do you think
of the current niches and trends and everything else important.
If you keep up on that, you seem like you
keep I feel.
Speaker 3: Like I will say, I feel like, if you're gonna
do this and be serious about it, you have to
keep up with that stuff. You definitely do. Even when
I started doing audio, those change so Like when I
first started, monster girls were really popular, not so much anymore.
During Lockdown it was family relations were really popular. That's
always gonna be one that is because taboo stuff is
always people love that. It's the oh, we shouldn't be
doing this, But yeah, I think it's I think it's
really cool to see that amateur stuff is getting more popular.
I see that bump up every year on the Hub,
like when they release the thing at the end of
the year. I love that MILFs get so much attention.
It's always one of those things that like, I was
a teenager in the early two thousands and they very much.
I'm sure you remember this made it seemed like after
your twenty five, no one wants you.
Speaker 1: Well, Unfortunately, I think that might be more of a
female thing.
Speaker 3: So it is definitely, but it was pushed on us
so hard, like after you're thirty, it's over, and I
think like getting older and seeing like, no, it's really not.
And again, like you said, it's more of a they
pushed that on like teenage girls. It's more of like
a female thing. Yeah, men don't care. They love it,
So I'm always super happy to see that. Yeah, those
are the two that really stick out to me because
when I first started watching videos, amateur stuff was the
easiest to find and consume. And I still love watching
it because you can tell like they're really into it.
They're having fun, which is the thing that I look
for at the end of the day.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm excited every single year to see what
is popular because it's never anything that I think it's
going to be. And I love going state by state
to see what the people in that state are into.
Speaker 1: I like doing that too, especially when they publish it
at the end. I enjoy that. Uh, you know, I
have a trend that I in my head. I was like,
I'm gonna Stumper on this one. I'm gonna ask her
how she would do an erotic fantasy about this topic.
Or niche. Oh I love it, but I think I
figured it out. So if you don't figure it out,
I think I have an answer. Okay, how would you
do a free use for all of that? Okay?
Speaker 3: Yeah, free use is a very popular trope, especially in audio.
Speaker 2: I've done a lot of that.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: So one of my favorite ways to do it, and
one that I think a lot of people it's warm
palatable for them, is like having a partner. So for example,
one of the role plays I've done is like boyfriend
girlfriend girlfriend has a pair of panties that she wears
when it's free use weekend, and you see those and
you know you can do it whenever you want. And
that is like people really like that when it's very like,
oh this isn't scary or weird, like somebody don't.
Speaker 2: Know, it's easy today.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: If I had a girlfriend and like or my girlfriend
did this, okay, I can get on board with that.
Other ways that.
Speaker 3: I've done that is I've done once where it's kind
of like professor student vibe like teaching assistant, like you're
gonna give me a better grade and you can do
whatever you want whenever you want to do it, and
I think it's hot. Both are the ways that I've
done it. I've seen it done a million different ways
from all types of other performers, but yeah, that's one
of those. I really like it, And I had no
idea that was the thing until I started doing audio I.
Speaker 1: See and that first. When I saw for you stuff,
I was like, how do I feel about this? Because
there are to me, there are a lot of different
ways to interpret it. So of course you could interpret
it as dominant male coming to take what he wants
and walk on and whatever. You can also take it
in the way I took it, dominant female, who I
don't even need I'm not even worried about this guy.
I'm fucking paying bills right now. Okay, he's throwing it
in me. I'm not even going to pay attention whatever.
I think that was my thing where I was like, oh,
there's a lot less anxiety on performance if she doesn't
know I exist done. How do you interpret for you?
Do you is it a give and take depends like
or do you like the idea of a guy taking
kind of Yes, I.
Speaker 2: Just like the idea that it's this.
Speaker 3: Scenario where either or party has this Like for me,
especially if I'm in more of like the submissive parts,
like this is fun, Like I'm in control. You can
do whatever you want, but I'm letting you do it.
I'm giving you this to you to let you have fun.
So I love that aspect of it. I also like
the one of it's like kind of like you said,
dominant mail, like, oh, I'm going to take this whatever.
I like free use too, because it's it goes up
to the line of kind of like non con or
CNC without having to go over it because it's usually
discussed or another way that I've done it or seen
it done where it's like it's world building. So there's
world building where it's like it's a free use world.
People were just this is how everybody lives. Everybody's used
to it. And I love that one because then you
can basically start any scenario you want and it makes
sense because oh, everybody does this.
Speaker 1: That's interesting. I never consider the free use atmosphere or
the whole environment type.
Speaker 2: It's so cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So let's wrap this up with a few cup
questions here, Where are we going? Where do you see
your career moving forward? You said you're very interested in
moving into more mainstream stuff. You're very successful on your own, right.
Do you see yourself hitting a dollar goal and going
I'm done. Do you see yourself one day at forty
going I just don't feel like doing this anymore? Or
do you see yourself making guilt point? I interviewed D. D.
White formally SAKEO my Gosvin b One. She still as
what she refers to as BBC gang Bangs, that's what
she calls it. And I am blown away at this
woman's desire and ability to keep working.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm so impressed by that, and that is kind
of where I'm at. I have no age or number
that I think I'll stop at. I think one day
it'll just be one of those things where I'm like,
this isn't really doing it for me anymore. But what
I love about this job is like that doesn't even
matter because everything that I've made, I can leave it
up and people can enjoy it forever. That's one of
the reasons why I've liked making so much content is
I'm like, I, honestly, could you know, go way for
a year or whatever, and people still have tons of
stuff to enjoy or go through or whatever. So I
don't have a specific age that I'll stop. I could
be one. Honestly, it would be cool to be seventy
and still being able to like do this. I would
love that. My my like immediate goals are I would
love to do stuff like that's more mainstream. I tell
you all the time. Audio is always going to be
my number one just because I have built such a
loyal I hate calling them. I like calling them like
listeners or whatever. I've built such a following and a
listening like fan base of people that enjoy it that
I would never stop. It's one of the reasons I
made my website so that people would like easily search
for things and find it. So yeah, I really would
just love to take that further. I would love to
make it more known to people. It's one of the
reasons I started putting audios on like the hub uh
and there are so many other people doing that, and
I think it's awesome because other people get to see, Oh,
there's another type of media that I can enjoy if
I can't do visual stuff. So yeah, I only want
to go up. It's like I'm world domination. That's what
I tell people. I'm joking, but just a little do
you okay?
Speaker 1: So do you have any concerns about AI because you
already have your established fan base? Right, Oh, let's just
say I can get a voice generator and a chat
GPT that does dirty talk and whatever could I create? Again,
You are good, I believe, because you've already established your
fan base. They know what they're getting from you. They
have a personal connection with you, which makes it different.
But do you think someone could go out there and
kind of throw on some AI slop and be successful?
Speaker 3: In my opinion, no, I think AI is garbage. I
think AI is great for certain things like building things.
Ever for artists, I think it's it's garbage.
Speaker 2: I've had.
Speaker 3: I've had my voice stolen once for something. I had
it taken down. I don't like it. I think, especially
for audio, it's never gonna be good. Yeah, you can
make it say whatever you wanted to say, but it
has no personality, no feeling, no emotion behind it. It's
just it's a computer. And you know, if people enjoy
that whatever, I'm not gonna knock it, but it's never
gonna be as good. In my opinion, I don't think
it will. I also think it's lazy. If you're a
creator and you're like, oh, I don't I don't like
my voice I'm gonna do then don't do it.
Speaker 2: Then don't do it. I also think the same thing
about pictures.
Speaker 3: I see AI like, uh, onlyfan stuff, and I'm just like,
this is so either take the picture yourself or don't
the way around that, Like, if you you know you
want to do visual stuff but you don't want people
to know who you are. I highly implore people to
do like a vtube model, And there are people that do.
It's called lude tubing and people do that, and you
can make it naked, you can do whatever. There are
certain ways.
Speaker 1: Gosh, I'll be honest with it. Even you're good you
can't hear it. I don't think it's isolated. Yeah, so
if it's bothering you, definitely I can.
Speaker 2: If you can't. If you can't hear it, I will
talk through it, Okay.
Speaker 3: So in regards to like pictures and stuff like that,
I also think that's that's garbage. I don't think that
it's ever going to give people the same kind of
connection that you're going to get from a human who's
making something, drawing something, recording something. It's never it's never
going to be the same, so I worry. I know
that someone could technically take my voice, take my picture.
I've had it happen with my voice. I've had it
happen with the art that I commission. If my character
it happens, it looks, in my opinion, like shit, sounds
like shit. So I'm not worried about it, but I
know it is a thing, and it is something that
a lot of us, especially in audio, worried about, like
what if someone gets us in It actually sounds close
and makes me say something crazy.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Hope that it doesn't get that way anytime soon, and
people use AI for different things. But yeah, it is
a worry. Definitely worry about it. It's one of the
reasons I got lawyers.
Speaker 1: Last question. This is an odd one only because you
would think people that are in this industry would have
the common answer, and instead I get a different common answer.
So again, no judgment. It's just strictly a question like
a whatever something, how you feel, what age should it?
What age should women be to be able to get
into this industry? And we'll run through it at the end,
but you tell me what do you think and if
you have a thought process on that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I have a couple of different thought processes
in one side of my brain. I think twenty one
and up is probably smartest. However, I do know that
when I was like younger and didn't have a means
to make money right away, Like I talked about it
at the beginning of this that I was nineteen when
I started, so I was able to pay my bills
and do whatever. And I know for a lot of
people dancing things like that, making and only fans, it
is out of necessity.
Speaker 2: They need to do it.
Speaker 3: It isn't like they like doing it, I'm sure, but
like it is to pay the bills. So for that,
I always stick with eighteen because I know I've been there,
I've had friends that have been there, and it is
it's a way to get yourself out of the hole.
Speaker 2: Sometimes that is.
Speaker 1: That that is like the most common thing. It's it's
the it's the performer telling me twenty one and then struggle,
not that you did, but struggling to realize, like, hey,
there are there are others that What it always comes
down to is maturity, right, Oh, totally, yeah, you were.
I also do a side show where I interview new
performers coming into the industry, and a horror story I
heard eighteen year old girl. And it's not as, it's
not graphics, so it's just right right, like I'm not
going to hit you with something horrendous here, But no,
I didn't think So he flew across the country on
her own dime because she would be reimbursed, got to
the hotel where she'd be reimbursed. Eighteen year old girl.
Guy just never picked up the phone after that, never
answered again. And you go, well, look, I know thirty
year olds who could fall for that too.
Speaker 3: So eight of course it happened to people in their
twenties and their thirty stories. It happens to people all
the time. You have people ghost you, flake on you, whatever. Yeah,
it happens all the time. It's not because they're eighteen.
Speaker 1: We came to kind of a consensus, and I'm not
asking you to join in with this Consensu's just you know,
where every time I asked this, maybe only one for hardcore, okay, eighteen,
nineteen twenty, you could do solo, you could do only
it's not meant.
Speaker 2: To limit that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, sure, it's more just a safety concern.
Speaker 3: And again, look and honestly I think I mean I
would get on. I think that makes sense. It makes
total sense because you know, until I was probably like
twenty two or twenty three, I don't think I would
have done like irl stuff like with a partner, because
I was like, hmm, am I going to be the
way that I want to be in the scene has
nothing to do with them. So yeah, I agree with that.
It is definitely an emotional maturity thing.
Speaker 2: That's sure.
Speaker 1: Sure, let's not make it a law, but.
Speaker 2: Let's let's yeah, let's.
Speaker 1: Convey to people, hey, maybe starting this slow if you
really want to make it a career.
Speaker 2: Totally I agree with that for sure.
Speaker 1: All Right, ladies and gentlemen, my guest tonight, Victoria Malfoy.
You can find her exactly where you think you can
find her at snaky smut s nak e y s
E m u T, patreon dot com, slash sneak snaky.
Speaker 2: I know it's a tongue twister.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's not that my mouth is just dry.
I'm tired, but I have loved talking to you. You
are so insighted.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, thank you. It's been so much fun.
Speaker 1: You're not terrible to look at, which is a very
nice thing at the end of the day. And I
just I think you are so fascinating in such a
creative You've.
Speaker 2: Made it my day. Thank you so much, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: Victoria Malfoy, Victoria, thank you so much for coming on
with me and night so much for having me.
Speaker 2: I hope we get to come back sometimes