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<v Speaker 1>For decades, people have disappeared in the woods without a trace.

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<v Speaker 1>Some blame wild animals, others whisper of creatures the world

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<v Speaker 1>refuses to believe in, but those who have survived they

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<v Speaker 1>know the truth. Welcome to Backwoods Bigfoot Stories, where we

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<v Speaker 1>share real encounters with the things lurking in the darkness bigfoot,

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<v Speaker 1>dog man, UFOs, and creatures that defy explanation. Some make

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<v Speaker 1>it out, others aren't so lucky. Are you ready, because

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<v Speaker 1>once you hear these stories, you'll never walk in the

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<v Speaker 1>woods alone again. So grab your flashlight, stay close, and

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<v Speaker 1>remember some things in the woods don't want to be found.

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<v Speaker 1>Hit that follow or subscribe button, turn on auto downloads,

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<v Speaker 1>and let's head off into the woods if you dare.

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<v Speaker 2>Van Meter.

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<v Speaker 1>The autumn of nineteen o three, a little town and

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<v Speaker 1>a bend of the Raccoon River woke up to find

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<v Speaker 1>something walking its rooftops at one in the morning, a

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<v Speaker 1>winged thing tall as a barn door, with a horn

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<v Speaker 1>on its forehead that threw a beam of light bright

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<v Speaker 1>enough to blind a man through his own window. The

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<v Speaker 1>town doctor put five bullets into it, and it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>so much as flinch. The banker fired buckshot through his

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<v Speaker 1>front glass and found a three toed track.

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<v Speaker 2>In the dirt.

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<v Speaker 1>The next morning, and on the last night, a whole

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<v Speaker 1>posse of farmers chased it out to an abandoned coal

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<v Speaker 1>mine at the edge of town, where two of the

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<v Speaker 1>things came up out of the dark, took a wall

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<v Speaker 1>of gunfire like it was a spring rain, and walked

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<v Speaker 1>back down into the shaft. The men sealed the mine,

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<v Speaker 1>the visit stopped. Nobody ever explained a single second of it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the Van Meter Visitor, and it's one of the strangest,

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<v Speaker 1>best documented, hardest to laugh off cases in the whole country.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also a story. I've already told you the full thing,

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<v Speaker 1>all five nights, every name, and every shot fired. That

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<v Speaker 1>was way back in episode one seven of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're new here, or if your memory of

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<v Speaker 1>it is faded, go back and pull up one forty

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<v Speaker 1>seven and give it a listen. It's worth your time.

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<v Speaker 1>I won't do the whole thing justice in a recap,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not going to try, because that's not what

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<v Speaker 1>tonight is about. Tonight we're parked in Iowa for a

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<v Speaker 1>different reason, because here's the thing nobody tells you about Iowa.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got the visitor, sure, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Wing devil in the coal mine, the one that ends

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<v Speaker 1>up on every cryptid list in America.

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<v Speaker 2>But the visitor is the freak case. The visitor is

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<v Speaker 2>the outlier.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing Iowa actually reports, the thing it's been reporting

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<v Speaker 1>quietly for one hundred years and more. All over the state,

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<v Speaker 1>in the corn and the river timber and the wooded

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<v Speaker 1>bluffs along the Mississippi, is something a lot heavier and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot quieter, and to a man like me, a

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<v Speaker 1>whole lot more believable. Big dark, covered in hair, walking

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<v Speaker 1>on two legs. So forget the wing thing for tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going sasquatch hunting in the Hawkeye State, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to take the long way, because Iowa's got more

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<v Speaker 1>dark corners than the postcards.

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<v Speaker 2>Let on.

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<v Speaker 1>People hear Iowa, and they picture corn to the horizon,

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<v Speaker 1>flat open tame, nowhere for anything bigger than a pheasant

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<v Speaker 1>to hide. And if you only ever see Iowa from

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<v Speaker 1>the interstate at seventy miles an hour, you'd believe that.

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<v Speaker 2>You'd be wrong, but you'd believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>The states cut through with river valleys, the des Moines,

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<v Speaker 1>and the raccoon, and the skunk and the cedar, and

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<v Speaker 1>the big Mississippi running the whole eastern edge, and where

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<v Speaker 1>there's river there's bottom land timber thick as a wall,

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of cover you can stand ten feet from

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<v Speaker 1>a man in and never see him. Up in the

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<v Speaker 1>northeast corner, the part folks called the driftless, the glaciers

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<v Speaker 1>that flatten the rest of the state just missed entirely,

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<v Speaker 1>and the country there stayed wild and folded and steep,

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<v Speaker 1>all wooded bluff and hidden draws and cold trout streams

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<v Speaker 1>running through hardwood that's never seen a plow. Yellow River

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<v Speaker 1>State forest, effigy mounds miles of it, and scattered all

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<v Speaker 1>across the rest of the state. In the seams between

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<v Speaker 1>the cornfields are sleughs and creek bottoms and woodlights and

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<v Speaker 1>old quarry ground that nobody walks from one year to

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<v Speaker 1>the next. There's more cover in Iowa than the postcards admit.

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<v Speaker 1>There's more room to hide than anybody driving through would

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<v Speaker 1>ever guess. And in that cover, for as long as

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<v Speaker 1>anybody's kept track, people have been seeing something they can't explain.

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<v Speaker 1>The researchers who catalog these things have logged somewhere around

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<v Speaker 1>seventy eight credible bigfoot reports out of Iowa. That puts

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<v Speaker 1>a flat farm state of all places up in the

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<v Speaker 1>same conversation as Washington and Oregon in California, which is

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<v Speaker 1>not where you'd expect to find it. The reports aren't

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<v Speaker 1>bunched up in one weird county either, They're spread the

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<v Speaker 1>whole width of the state. Humboldt County up in the

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<v Speaker 1>north central part. The pack with nine of them, dubook

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<v Speaker 1>Over on the Mississippi has half a dozen. Dallas County,

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<v Speaker 1>Van Meter's own county, the same ground that gave us

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<v Speaker 1>the wing thing in the mine, has logged its share

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<v Speaker 1>of the tall hairy ones too, same dirt, two different monsters,

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<v Speaker 1>one I'm hard pressed to believe and one I can't shake.

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<v Speaker 1>Almost every one of these sightings happens near water, the rivers,

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<v Speaker 1>the reservoirs, the creek bottoms, which makes sense if you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about a real animal. A big animal needs to

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<v Speaker 1>drink and needs cover and needs to move without being seen,

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<v Speaker 1>and a river valley gives it all three and one

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<v Speaker 1>ribbon running clear across the state. And none of this

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<v Speaker 1>is new. That's the part people forget the hairy man,

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<v Speaker 1>and the timber didn't show up when somebody coined the

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<v Speaker 1>word bigfoot back in the nineteen fifties. The settlers who

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<v Speaker 1>broke this ground in the eighteen hundreds carried the same

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<v Speaker 1>stories west with them, tales of a wild man in

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<v Speaker 1>the river bottoms, a thing that walked like a person

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<v Speaker 1>and wasn't one, and the native peoples who were here

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<v Speaker 1>long before the settlers had their own names for the

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<v Speaker 1>same shape in the same woods. There's an old account

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<v Speaker 1>out of Southeast Iowa an early settler woman who said

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<v Speaker 1>that when she first came to the country as a girl,

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<v Speaker 1>the hunters and trappers already talked about animals that walked

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<v Speaker 1>upright like men deep back in the timber, already talked

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<v Speaker 1>about it before there were towns, before there were newspapers

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<v Speaker 1>to put it in. Whatever this thing is, it was

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<v Speaker 1>here before we were, and it was being reported before

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<v Speaker 2>Had a word for it.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's go to the most famous one, down in

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<v Speaker 1>the southeast corner where it really started, the fall of

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy five, a little town called Lockridge, down in

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<v Speaker 1>Jefferson County, Southeast Iowa, about sixty miles south of Iowa City,

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<v Speaker 1>farm country, gentle hills, wood lots and creek beds, and

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<v Speaker 1>turkey ground. It started with the turkeys. A hunter named

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<v Speaker 1>Lowell Adkins was one chilly October morning and came across

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<v Speaker 1>a scene that didn't add up. Four turkeys dead, partially eaten,

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<v Speaker 1>torn into and left and around them in the dirt tracks,

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<v Speaker 1>big ones roughly ten inches long, from something that walked

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<v Speaker 1>on two feet something that wasn't a coyote and wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>a dog, and wasn't anything Adkins could put a name to.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Four dead turkeys is the kind of thing a man

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<v Speaker 1>could explain a dozen ways if that was all there was.

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<v Speaker 1>But that wasn't all there was. Right around the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>a farmer named Herb Peefer was out at dusk checking

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<v Speaker 1>of the woods and lit up something standing there. It

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<v Speaker 1>was harry, it was dark. It walked upright like a man,

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<v Speaker 1>on a body Peef put at around five feet tall.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't stay to study it. He backed off to

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<v Speaker 2>Deputy rolled out.

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever it was had melted back into the timber and

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<v Speaker 1>was gone. Then it kept happening. Another farmer in the area,

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<v Speaker 1>a woman named Gloria Olsen, started seeing it too, out

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<v Speaker 1>in her cornfields at night, a hairy thing with a

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<v Speaker 1>monkey's face, eyes throwing back the light, prowling the edges

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<v Speaker 1>of her property in the dark. And as the word spread,

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<v Speaker 1>more folks came forward, hunters finding the same odd tracks

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<v Speaker 1>road in the headlights, the descriptions lining up close enough

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<v Speaker 1>that the thing earned a name, the Lockridge Monster. It

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<v Speaker 1>made the papers, It even found its way into the

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<v Speaker 1>national papers. For one strange autumn, Southeast Iowa had its

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<v Speaker 1>own homegrown sasquatch, and the whole country was watching. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>the part I find the most interesting about it. The

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<v Speaker 1>Lockridge thing didn't fit the mold of what others had

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<v Speaker 1>reported seeing. It was small for a bigfoot, five feet

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<v Speaker 1>not eight, and the tracks were on the small side too,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe half what you'd expect off a full grown sasquatch

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<v Speaker 1>out west. And it ate those turkeys tore into them,

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<v Speaker 1>which doesn't square with the usual idea of a big

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<v Speaker 1>plant eating epe, minding its own business in the brush.

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<v Speaker 1>One researcher who looked at it said flat out that

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<v Speaker 1>the foot was too small and the killing two.

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<v Speaker 2>Out of character to call it bigfoot at all. So

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<v Speaker 2>what was it?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, and I like that I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>because it means nobody was forcing the evidence to fit

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<v Speaker 1>a story. Maybe it was a young one, maybe it

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<v Speaker 1>was something else entirely, some other animal we don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a slot for. But you've got multiple farmers separately describing

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<v Speaker 1>the same hairy, upright ape faced thing, and a hunter

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<v Speaker 1>with four dead birds and a line of two footed tracks,

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<v Speaker 1>and a whole town that hung onto the name for

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<v Speaker 1>fifty years. That's not nothing. Towns forget things fast. For

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<v Speaker 1>a piece of country to keep a monster's name alive

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<v Speaker 1>that long enough, people had to see enough of something

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<v Speaker 1>to keep the story warm, and Lockridge wasn't a one thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Folks down in that part of the state, around the

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<v Speaker 1>Skunk River Valley especially, have been telling wildman stories for generations.

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<v Speaker 1>Seven eight feet tall, covered in dark, shaggy hair, walking

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<v Speaker 1>the dense river timber. An old newspaper clipping out of

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<v Speaker 1>that country, described it about as plain as you can

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<v Speaker 1>put it, a furry, scary thing that stands like a man,

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<v Speaker 1>something the locals had been hearing about for fifty years

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<v Speaker 1>before the clipping was ever printed. The sightings down there

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<v Speaker 1>never really stopped. They were still coming in well past

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<v Speaker 1>twenty ten, enough of them that the county conservation man

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<v Speaker 1>went on the record, and even he, a fellow whose

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<v Speaker 1>whole job was to have a sensible explanation, admitted he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have one. He figured most folks saw something at

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<v Speaker 1>a bad angle and a bad light, but he wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>say they saw nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>That's southeast Iowa, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Noticed the river timber running through all of it, because

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<v Speaker 2>Rest of the night.

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<v Speaker 1>Summer in nineteen seventy six, the track started showing up north,

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<v Speaker 1>up by a town called Dumont. A man came across

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<v Speaker 1>something that stops you when you read it. Big footprints

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<v Speaker 1>running along a gravel road, not one or two, a

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<v Speaker 1>half mile of them, tracks twelve to thirteen inches long,

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<v Speaker 1>five inches wide, with a stride of about six feet

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<v Speaker 1>They came in out of the open country, ran that

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<v Speaker 1>toward the cover same pattern, and that August, over by

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<v Speaker 1>got a daylight look. It was morning, around nine thirty,

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<v Speaker 1>full light. The boy saw it down at the river,

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<v Speaker 1>a hairy black thing about six feet tall. And the

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<v Speaker 1>detail that stuck with me is what it was doing.

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<v Speaker 1>It had its hands cup together and it was drinking

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<v Speaker 1>from them, lifting water to its mouth with its hands

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<v Speaker 1>the way you or I would at a cold spring,

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<v Speaker 1>not lapping like an animal, drinking like a person. The

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<v Speaker 1>boy left, and when he came back later with his family,

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<v Speaker 1>they found the prince fourteen inches long, narrow at the heel,

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<v Speaker 1>seven inches across the front where the five toes spread,

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<v Speaker 1>a foot shaped like hours, only huge. A boy doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>usually invent the small stuff. He'd have told you it roared,

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<v Speaker 1>it charged, it had red eyes, if he were making

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<v Speaker 1>it up to scare his sister. Instead, he told you

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<v Speaker 1>it cupped its hands and drank from the river on

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<v Speaker 1>a sunny morning. That's not a monster story detail. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a saw an animal detail. And those are the ones

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<v Speaker 1>I leaned toward. And it never stayed in one corner

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<v Speaker 1>or one decade. That's worth saying, plainly, because the easy

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<v Speaker 1>way to dismiss all this is to call it one

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<v Speaker 1>weird town's one weird year. Iowa won't let you. Go

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<v Speaker 1>back to the early seventies, before Lockridge was ever a headline,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a hunter named Gary who was deep in

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<v Speaker 1>spotted a strange animal off at about one hundred yards,

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<v Speaker 1>a thing that didn't move or looked like anything he

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<v Speaker 1>find the county that's logged more of these than any

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<v Speaker 1>other in Iowa. Nine of them in county, in flat

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<v Speaker 1>farm country, where the books say there's nowhere for a

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<v Speaker 1>thing like that to live. Come forward to two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and six, near a little town called Wellman, where somebody

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<v Speaker 1>reported one out on a dried up riverbank plain daylight,

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<v Speaker 1>walking the cracked mud where the water used to run.

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<v Speaker 1>Every corner of the state. Every decade, anybody's been keeping

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<v Speaker 1>count the same animal over and over. Down in Lee County,

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<v Speaker 1>in the far southeast corner, there's a piece of public

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<v Speaker 1>ground called Shaimeck Forest, thick hardwood, turkey country, the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of woods a man can disappear into, and there's a

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<v Speaker 1>story out of there. I think about more than i'd

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<v Speaker 1>like to. A hunter was out one morning in the

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<v Speaker 1>early season, sitting still waiting, the woods just starting to

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<v Speaker 1>gray up with dawn. The fog was hanging low, the

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<v Speaker 1>way it does and river bottom that time of year,

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<v Speaker 1>and a tall figure came walking out of.

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<v Speaker 2>That fog toward him.

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<v Speaker 1>His first thought was another hunter, a man in a

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<v Speaker 1>gilly suit, one of those camouflage rigs, all hung with

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<v Speaker 1>strips of cloth to break up your outline, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>what it looked like at first, a shaggy man shape

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<v Speaker 1>moving through the trees, A natural enough thing to think

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<v Speaker 1>right up until it got close enough that it stopped

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<v Speaker 1>being a man. It was too big, it was covered

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<v Speaker 1>head to foot in hair, not cloth, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>looking right at him. They locked eyes, both of them froze,

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<v Speaker 1>the hunter and the thing, neither one moving the way

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<v Speaker 1>two animals do when they've surprised each other, and neither

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<v Speaker 1>knows yet how it's going to go. Stay tuned for

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<v Speaker 1>more Backwoods bigfoot stories. We'll be back after these messages.

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<v Speaker 1>And the hunter scared, now really scared, brought his gun

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<v Speaker 1>up and worked the safety off, and the thing moved.

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<v Speaker 1>It took a step toward him, one lunge, and the

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<v Speaker 1>hunter's heart must have come up in his throat. But

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<v Speaker 1>then it stopped itself. It turned and it walked away

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<v Speaker 1>into the timber, slow, deliberate, looking back over its shoulder

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<v Speaker 1>at him the whole way, never once taking its eyes

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<v Speaker 1>off the man until the fog closed up and it

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<v Speaker 1>was gone. It chose not to That's what gets me

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<v Speaker 1>about that one.

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<v Speaker 2>It had the man.

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<v Speaker 1>Dead to rights, closed the distance, and then thought better

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<v Speaker 1>of it and left. That's not a movie monster. That's

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<v Speaker 1>an animal making a decision. Now, let me take you

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<v Speaker 1>up to the eastern edge to Dubuke County and a

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<v Speaker 1>young fellow I'll call Cody, because his is the longest

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<v Speaker 1>run of encounters I've come across out of Iowa, and

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<v Speaker 1>because it's the kind of thing that happens to one

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<v Speaker 1>person on one piece of land over and over until

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<v Speaker 1>they can't tell themselves it was nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Five times.

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<v Speaker 1>Cody had five encounters on his own family's ground over

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<v Speaker 1>the better part of a year, and the first one

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<v Speaker 1>was the one that nearly broke him. He was bowhunting

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<v Speaker 1>up in a tree stand and something came up out

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<v Speaker 1>of the timber and sat down at the base of

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<v Speaker 1>his tree, right under him. A big, hairy man shaped

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<v Speaker 1>thing easing itself down at the foot of his stand,

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<v Speaker 1>close enough that Cody, with a drawn bow and a

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<v Speaker 1>clear shot straight down, sat there and thought about loosing

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<v Speaker 1>an arrow into it. He didn't, and when he tells it,

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<v Speaker 1>the reason he didn't is the part that raises the

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<v Speaker 1>hair on your neck. He didn't shoot because the thing

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<v Speaker 1>under his tree was too much like a man to shoot.

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<v Speaker 1>It left on its own. He climbed down on shaking

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<v Speaker 1>legs and didn't tell a soul. But it wasn't done

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<v Speaker 1>with him. A few months on, he was out crossing

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<v Speaker 1>the property on his four wheeler and rode past a

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<v Speaker 1>thick patch of timber, and the thing was standing at

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<v Speaker 1>the edge of it, watching him go by the way

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<v Speaker 1>a man watches a car pass on a back road.

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<v Speaker 1>Another evening, driving home from work, he caught it slipping

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<v Speaker 1>back into the woods by a telephone pole, and then

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<v Speaker 1>there was the barn. Cody was sitting on his porch

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<v Speaker 1>one evening, just sitting, and he watched the thing walk

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<v Speaker 1>straight through one of the old knockdown barns on the place,

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<v Speaker 1>out in the open, unhurried, and it noticed him sitting there.

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<v Speaker 1>It turned its head and gave him a long look

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<v Speaker 1>across the yard man to think.

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<v Speaker 2>And then it ran.

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<v Speaker 1>And when it ran, it came to a barbed wire fence,

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<v Speaker 1>a five foot fence, the kind you and I would

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<v Speaker 1>have to climb, careful so as not to leave skin

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<v Speaker 1>and trouser on the wire. It cleared it in stride,

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<v Speaker 1>hurtled a five foot fence at a dead run without

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<v Speaker 1>breaking step, and vanished into the trees. I've stood at

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of barbed wire fences in my life. I

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<v Speaker 1>know what it takes to get a body over one

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<v Speaker 1>in a hurry. I've watched deer jumped them, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>watched men try to What Cody describes is neither. It's

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<v Speaker 1>something built different, something with the spring and the casual

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<v Speaker 1>power to take five feet a fence the way we'd

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<v Speaker 1>step off a curb. No light, no horn, no beam

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<v Speaker 1>in the eyes, just a big animal doing a big

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<v Speaker 1>animal thing in front of a kid who'd have rather

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<v Speaker 1>seen anything else on God's Earth. Over in Keokuk County

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<v Speaker 1>in the summer of twenty ten, a woman got a

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<v Speaker 1>nighttime look that came with its own little detail of

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<v Speaker 1>local color. She was home one evening with a friend

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<v Speaker 1>when the dogs went off, not the usual barking, loud

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<v Speaker 1>and frantic. She looked out the window and saw her

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<v Speaker 1>dogs tearing up the long gravel driveway away from the road,

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<v Speaker 1>running like they wanted no part of whatever was behind them.

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<v Speaker 1>And behind them, coming up that same driveway was a tall,

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<v Speaker 1>dark figure. She couldn't put a size to it exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>only that it was bigger than a man, and the

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<v Speaker 1>way she described.

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<v Speaker 2>It has stayed with me.

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<v Speaker 1>She said it was a shadow darker than the shadow

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<v Speaker 1>of a tree, a piece of the dark moving up

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<v Speaker 1>her driveway in the night, blacker than the night around it.

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<v Speaker 1>The next day, she and her friend walked the farm

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<v Speaker 1>and found a footprint, the kind of print that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>belong to anything that ought to be walking in Iowa farm.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a spot near where she lived that the old

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<v Speaker 1>timers have been calling for longer than anybody can remember.

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<v Speaker 1>Monkey's Den. Nobody put that name there last week. Somebody

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<v Speaker 1>named that ground a long time ago after something, and

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<v Speaker 1>the name stuck the way names only stick when there's

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<v Speaker 1>a reason underneath them. Most of these stories are old,

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<v Speaker 1>or they happened to one person with nothing to show

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<v Speaker 1>for it but a footprint and a bad night's sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>The summer of twenty twenty one was different because somebody

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<v Speaker 1>had a camera. A man named Jeremy was out walking

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<v Speaker 1>with his sister one July morning in a place called

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<v Speaker 1>Whitewater Canyon near the little town of Bernard, over into

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<v Speaker 1>Butte County, rough wooded canyon country, and in the shadows

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<v Speaker 1>of the trees, they saw a big, dark, ape like figure,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jeremy got pictures of it. The photos went up

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<v Speaker 1>online and they went everywhere. Cryptid people and skeptic people

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<v Speaker 1>both poured over them the way they always do, arguing

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<v Speaker 1>pixel by pixel. The image wasn't crisp enough to settle anything,

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<v Speaker 1>and the researchers logged it as the lesser grade of

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<v Speaker 1>report for exactly that reason, a citing they couldn't fully

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<v Speaker 1>stand behind because the picture left a room for doubt

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<v Speaker 1>a man in a suit, some said, A bear at

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<v Speaker 1>a bad angle, said others. Though black bears are about

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<v Speaker 1>as rare as hen's teeth in that part of Iowa. Jeremy,

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<v Speaker 1>by every account, a skeptic himself right up until that morning,

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<v Speaker 1>never backed off it. He knew what he saw, he

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<v Speaker 1>said so, and kept saying so. I can't tell you

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<v Speaker 1>what's in those pictures. Nobody can't, and anybody who says

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<v Speaker 1>different is selling you their certainty. What I can tell

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<v Speaker 1>you is that the canyon he was standing in is

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<v Speaker 1>exact actly the kind of rough wooded river country these

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<v Speaker 1>things turn up in over and over all across this state.

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<v Speaker 1>This next one comes out of that same southeast corner

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<v Speaker 1>near Lockridge, and it's a family story, the kind that

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<v Speaker 1>runs across generations. On one piece of land, a woman

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<v Speaker 1>I'll call her Connie, whose family had been having run

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<v Speaker 1>ends with the same thing or things on their farm

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<v Speaker 1>for decades. They had a name for the big one.

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<v Speaker 1>They called it Big Red. Back in the early to

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<v Speaker 1>middle eighties. Her daughter, I'll call her Tracy, had felt

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<v Speaker 1>for a while like something was keeping tabs on her

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<v Speaker 1>around the place. One day, she was standing out by

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<v Speaker 1>her car, and she felt a hand come to rest

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<v Speaker 1>on her back. She screamed and spun and there was

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<v Speaker 1>a hairy something there close, and then it was gone.

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<v Speaker 1>A family on a remote farm in good Bigfoot country,

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<v Speaker 1>in the heart of the most active corner of the state,

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<v Speaker 1>having repeated encounters with a large animal over many years.

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<v Speaker 2>That happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Animals den up, animals work a territory. A creature smart

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<v Speaker 1>enough and shy enough to go one hundred years without

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<v Speaker 1>giving signs a body is exactly the kind of creature

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<v Speaker 1>that had learned one family's land and keep coming back

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<v Speaker 1>to it. There's a woman I'll call Sharon, who grew

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<v Speaker 1>up on a farm down in the river bottom of

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<v Speaker 1>central Iowa, where a creek cut through the back forty

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<v Speaker 1>before it ran on to join the bigger water. She

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<v Speaker 1>was hanging wash one evening late, the light going long

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<v Speaker 1>in orange, and the dog at her feet went stiff,

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<v Speaker 1>not barking, stiff, hackles up the whole length of its spine,

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00:22:35.480 --> 00:22:38.599
<v Speaker 1>a low sound caught in its throat, Staring down at

421
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<v Speaker 1>the tree lined by the creek. Sharon looked where the

422
00:22:41.799 --> 00:22:44.480
<v Speaker 1>dog was looking, and there was something standing in the

423
00:22:44.480 --> 00:22:49.000
<v Speaker 1>gap between two cottonwoods. Watching the house, tall and dark,

424
00:22:49.599 --> 00:22:53.720
<v Speaker 1>with massive shoulders too wide, its arms way too long,

425
00:22:54.640 --> 00:22:56.880
<v Speaker 1>standing the way a person stands when they don't want

426
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<v Speaker 1>to be seen, half behind the trunk, dead still. She

427
00:23:01.200 --> 00:23:04.240
<v Speaker 1>watched it for maybe four or five seconds, which is

428
00:23:04.279 --> 00:23:07.440
<v Speaker 1>nothing and is also a lifetime. And then she got

429
00:23:07.440 --> 00:23:10.160
<v Speaker 1>her hand on the dog's collar and walked backward to

430
00:23:10.200 --> 00:23:13.119
<v Speaker 1>the house, without ever turning her back on those trees.

431
00:23:13.839 --> 00:23:14.680
<v Speaker 2>She locked the door.

432
00:23:15.119 --> 00:23:17.799
<v Speaker 1>She left the wash on the line. In the morning

433
00:23:17.839 --> 00:23:20.880
<v Speaker 1>it was still there, heavy with dew, and down by

434
00:23:20.880 --> 00:23:23.359
<v Speaker 1>the creek there were a couple of pressed flat places

435
00:23:23.400 --> 00:23:25.920
<v Speaker 1>in the tall grass that could have been anything at all.

436
00:23:26.680 --> 00:23:30.240
<v Speaker 1>She never hung wash that lad Again, that's the whole story,

437
00:23:30.920 --> 00:23:33.240
<v Speaker 1>A shape in the trees that knew how to hide,

438
00:23:33.599 --> 00:23:35.759
<v Speaker 1>and a farm dog that wanted no part of it.

439
00:23:36.680 --> 00:23:38.720
<v Speaker 1>Then there's the one I got from a couple of kids,

440
00:23:39.119 --> 00:23:41.839
<v Speaker 1>a boy and a girl, and I'll keep the names

441
00:23:41.880 --> 00:23:44.519
<v Speaker 1>out of it. They were parked out on a gravel

442
00:23:44.559 --> 00:23:47.039
<v Speaker 1>road one night, down in a low spot where the

443
00:23:47.160 --> 00:23:51.559
<v Speaker 1>road dips across a slough, timber on both sides, radio

444
00:23:51.680 --> 00:23:55.480
<v Speaker 1>on low, windows cracked, and the boy hears something hit

445
00:23:55.519 --> 00:23:59.839
<v Speaker 1>the water, a heavy splash, then another one something big

446
00:24:00.000 --> 00:24:03.440
<v Speaker 1>out in the dark, crossing the slough, getting closer. They

447
00:24:03.440 --> 00:24:06.160
<v Speaker 1>could tell the steps weren't a deer. A deer's quick

448
00:24:06.200 --> 00:24:10.839
<v Speaker 1>and light on four feet. This was slow, heavy, two legs,

449
00:24:11.400 --> 00:24:15.119
<v Speaker 1>that wet, deliberate sound of something walking upright through standing water,

450
00:24:15.440 --> 00:24:18.759
<v Speaker 1>coming closer, and the two of them just froze. He

451
00:24:18.839 --> 00:24:21.599
<v Speaker 1>got the car started, and he says when the headlights

452
00:24:21.599 --> 00:24:24.759
<v Speaker 1>swung around, they caught something tall standing right at the

453
00:24:24.880 --> 00:24:28.279
<v Speaker 1>edge of the road, eyes throwing the light back, red

454
00:24:28.559 --> 00:24:31.640
<v Speaker 1>like a stop sign. Then it was gone into the trees,

455
00:24:31.960 --> 00:24:34.359
<v Speaker 1>and they were doing fifty on loose gravel, with the

456
00:24:34.400 --> 00:24:37.799
<v Speaker 1>back end sliding the whole way home. They never told

457
00:24:37.839 --> 00:24:40.400
<v Speaker 1>their folks where were they going to say they'd been.

458
00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:43.880
<v Speaker 1>But the boy told that story for years, and he

459
00:24:43.960 --> 00:24:46.839
<v Speaker 1>told it the same way every time. That's the thing

460
00:24:46.880 --> 00:24:50.559
<v Speaker 1>I watch for. A liar polishes it up. An honest

461
00:24:50.559 --> 00:24:52.880
<v Speaker 1>guy just keeps telling the same plane version till the

462
00:24:52.960 --> 00:24:56.079
<v Speaker 1>day he dies. The one that really gets me is

463
00:24:56.079 --> 00:25:00.480
<v Speaker 1>the coon hunter, older guy, I'll call him Dale. He'd

464
00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:03.759
<v Speaker 1>run dogs in the Iowa timber his whole life, decades

465
00:25:03.799 --> 00:25:05.960
<v Speaker 1>of it, and he knew those woods in the dark

466
00:25:06.200 --> 00:25:09.559
<v Speaker 1>better than most people know their own house. One fall night,

467
00:25:09.799 --> 00:25:12.839
<v Speaker 1>He's out with two good dogs, the kind that don't quit,

468
00:25:13.200 --> 00:25:15.200
<v Speaker 1>that'll tree a coon and ball at it till you

469
00:25:15.240 --> 00:25:18.039
<v Speaker 1>come knock it down. The dogs hit a track and

470
00:25:18.119 --> 00:25:20.359
<v Speaker 1>ran it into a stand of timber along the river.

471
00:25:20.799 --> 00:25:23.039
<v Speaker 1>And then they did something Dale had never seen them do,

472
00:25:23.960 --> 00:25:28.079
<v Speaker 1>not once in all those years. They came back, both

473
00:25:28.119 --> 00:25:33.160
<v Speaker 1>of them, quiet tails tucked, shaking, pressed right up against

474
00:25:33.160 --> 00:25:36.559
<v Speaker 1>his legs, two seasoned dogs that had treat about everything

475
00:25:36.599 --> 00:25:38.960
<v Speaker 1>that walks in this state, and now they would not

476
00:25:39.039 --> 00:25:42.359
<v Speaker 1>go back in there, not for anything. And while Dale's

477
00:25:42.359 --> 00:25:44.440
<v Speaker 1>standing there trying to figure out what's wrong with his

478
00:25:44.440 --> 00:25:48.640
<v Speaker 1>own dogs, he hears it, something big, moving off through

479
00:25:48.680 --> 00:25:53.000
<v Speaker 1>the trees, not running, not scared of him, just leaving

480
00:25:53.799 --> 00:25:56.720
<v Speaker 1>breaking brush a man couldn't break without a running start.

481
00:25:57.279 --> 00:25:59.640
<v Speaker 1>And under all of it a smell rolling out of

482
00:25:59.640 --> 00:26:04.799
<v Speaker 1>the woods, hoods that turned his stomach sour, rank, just wrong,

483
00:26:05.319 --> 00:26:08.119
<v Speaker 1>and he didn't have a word for it. Dale called

484
00:26:08.119 --> 00:26:10.440
<v Speaker 1>it a night, went home with two good dogs that

485
00:26:10.480 --> 00:26:12.839
<v Speaker 1>would not hunt that ground again, And for the rest

486
00:26:12.839 --> 00:26:15.799
<v Speaker 1>of his life he was sure of one thing. Whatever

487
00:26:15.920 --> 00:26:18.759
<v Speaker 1>was in that timber wasn't a coon, and it wasn't

488
00:26:18.799 --> 00:26:21.440
<v Speaker 1>a bear, and it wasn't anything he had a name for.

489
00:26:21.799 --> 00:26:25.079
<v Speaker 1>After a lifetime out there. There's a couple of mushroom

490
00:26:25.119 --> 00:26:28.480
<v Speaker 1>hunters too, brothers in law. I'll call them Ray and Don.

491
00:26:29.559 --> 00:26:31.640
<v Speaker 1>They went out one spring morning down in the river

492
00:26:31.680 --> 00:26:35.000
<v Speaker 1>bottom timber that wet black ground under the dead elms.

493
00:26:35.640 --> 00:26:38.720
<v Speaker 1>They split up, worked two sides of a draw, called

494
00:26:38.720 --> 00:26:40.440
<v Speaker 1>out to each other now and then so they didn't

495
00:26:40.440 --> 00:26:43.559
<v Speaker 1>get lost. And Ray comes around a big dead fall

496
00:26:43.599 --> 00:26:48.640
<v Speaker 1>and stops. There's a structure, branches, big ones, limbs as

497
00:26:48.680 --> 00:26:51.319
<v Speaker 1>thick as your leg, leaned up together into a kind

498
00:26:51.319 --> 00:26:55.480
<v Speaker 1>of lean to and woven through with smaller stuff made

499
00:26:55.920 --> 00:26:58.640
<v Speaker 1>on purpose. Sitting out there in the middle of the

500
00:26:58.680 --> 00:27:01.279
<v Speaker 1>timber where nobody had any reason to build a thing,

501
00:27:02.039 --> 00:27:05.359
<v Speaker 1>And Ray's not a bigfoot guy, wasn't even thinking about it.

502
00:27:06.119 --> 00:27:08.359
<v Speaker 1>His first thought was some kid built a ford out here,

503
00:27:09.039 --> 00:27:11.359
<v Speaker 1>except the limbs were too heavy for a kid to lift,

504
00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:13.440
<v Speaker 1>and there wasn't a track or a trail or a

505
00:27:13.440 --> 00:27:17.519
<v Speaker 1>beer can anywhere around it. He hollered for dawn, and

506
00:27:17.599 --> 00:27:21.279
<v Speaker 1>while he's standing there waiting, he gets that feeling, the

507
00:27:21.319 --> 00:27:24.599
<v Speaker 1>one everybody in these stories describes the same way, like

508
00:27:24.680 --> 00:27:28.079
<v Speaker 1>he's being watched. He turns a slow circle, and there's

509
00:27:28.119 --> 00:27:32.559
<v Speaker 1>nothing but the woods had gone dead quiet, no birds, nothing,

510
00:27:33.319 --> 00:27:35.400
<v Speaker 1>the way it goes quiet when something big is in

511
00:27:35.440 --> 00:27:37.920
<v Speaker 1>there with you. The two of them walked out of

512
00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:41.039
<v Speaker 1>that bottom a lot faster than they walked in. Nowither

513
00:27:41.079 --> 00:27:43.640
<v Speaker 1>one's been back, and Ray still can't tell you who

514
00:27:43.640 --> 00:27:47.319
<v Speaker 1>stacks limbs like that, that heavy, that far from a road.

515
00:27:48.240 --> 00:27:51.759
<v Speaker 1>There's a boy I'll call Tyler, first deer camp, twelve

516
00:27:51.839 --> 00:27:54.279
<v Speaker 1>years old and proud of it, out with his dad

517
00:27:54.319 --> 00:27:57.920
<v Speaker 1>and his uncles, bunch of tents along a creek. The

518
00:27:58.000 --> 00:28:00.480
<v Speaker 1>men stayed up late by the fire, and Tyler lying

519
00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:03.279
<v Speaker 1>in his sleeping bag, listening to everything the way you

520
00:28:03.319 --> 00:28:07.319
<v Speaker 1>do your first night out when every little sound is huge.

521
00:28:07.359 --> 00:28:10.480
<v Speaker 1>And after the fire burned down, something started walking the

522
00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:14.440
<v Speaker 1>edge of camp. Not a deer, he knew deer. This

523
00:28:14.599 --> 00:28:18.960
<v Speaker 1>was two feet slow, heavy, circling just past the firelight,

524
00:28:19.359 --> 00:28:22.279
<v Speaker 1>brush popping under it. Then a rock came out of

525
00:28:22.279 --> 00:28:25.680
<v Speaker 1>the dark and landed in the tents, Then another one.

526
00:28:25.720 --> 00:28:28.400
<v Speaker 1>His uncle swung a flashlight out into the trees and

527
00:28:28.440 --> 00:28:32.960
<v Speaker 1>caught nothing but eye shine, low wide up off the ground.

528
00:28:33.640 --> 00:28:37.079
<v Speaker 1>There then gone. The men sat up the rest of

529
00:28:37.079 --> 00:28:39.799
<v Speaker 1>the night with rifles across their laps and told the

530
00:28:39.880 --> 00:28:44.799
<v Speaker 1>kid it was a raccoon. The wind nothing. In the morning,

531
00:28:44.799 --> 00:28:46.920
<v Speaker 1>they went down to the creek to wash up, and

532
00:28:46.960 --> 00:28:48.759
<v Speaker 1>there was a print in the soft mud on the

533
00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:52.920
<v Speaker 1>bank longer than a man's boot by half. Nobody said

534
00:28:52.920 --> 00:28:55.319
<v Speaker 1>the word out loud, but they packed it up and

535
00:28:55.400 --> 00:28:58.039
<v Speaker 1>drove home a day early, and Tyler's dad never took

536
00:28:58.119 --> 00:28:59.039
<v Speaker 1>him back to that creek.

537
00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:00.920
<v Speaker 2>There's a woman I'll.

538
00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:02.599
<v Speaker 1>Call Meghan, who used to run one of those old

539
00:29:02.720 --> 00:29:07.799
<v Speaker 1>rail trails at dusk flat crushed limestone path, the kind

540
00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:09.960
<v Speaker 1>the state put down on top of an old pulled

541
00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:14.519
<v Speaker 1>up railroad, timber crowding in on both sides. She ran

542
00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:17.599
<v Speaker 1>it most evenings and never thought twice about it until

543
00:29:17.640 --> 00:29:20.599
<v Speaker 1>the evening something started running it with her, often the

544
00:29:20.640 --> 00:29:25.839
<v Speaker 1>trees to her right keeping pace, heavy footfalls matching her stride,

545
00:29:26.480 --> 00:29:29.599
<v Speaker 1>slowing down when she slowed, speeding up when she sped up.

546
00:29:30.279 --> 00:29:33.119
<v Speaker 1>She told herself it was an echo, so she stopped

547
00:29:33.599 --> 00:29:36.440
<v Speaker 1>to prove it, and the footsteps out in the timber

548
00:29:36.480 --> 00:29:40.000
<v Speaker 1>took one more step and stopped two a beat behind hers,

549
00:29:40.640 --> 00:29:43.359
<v Speaker 1>the way something stops when it's following you and gets caught.

550
00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:46.440
<v Speaker 1>She's standing there in the dark with her heart going,

551
00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:49.000
<v Speaker 1>and from back in the trees where the steps quit,

552
00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:54.079
<v Speaker 1>she hears one sharp crack wood on wood, loud, like

553
00:29:54.160 --> 00:29:57.119
<v Speaker 1>somebody swung a bat into a tree once and then quit.

554
00:29:57.519 --> 00:30:00.839
<v Speaker 1>Stay tuned for more backwoods big Foot store. We'll be

555
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:05.240
<v Speaker 1>back after these messages. Megan ran the rest of that

556
00:30:05.279 --> 00:30:08.519
<v Speaker 1>trail faster than she's ever run anything, out to the

557
00:30:08.519 --> 00:30:12.200
<v Speaker 1>parking lot into her car, and she's never gone back there.

558
00:30:12.240 --> 00:30:15.319
<v Speaker 1>After the sun starts going down. She doesn't tell the

559
00:30:15.359 --> 00:30:18.440
<v Speaker 1>story much. When she does, she won't call it anything.

560
00:30:19.400 --> 00:30:21.559
<v Speaker 1>She just says something ran with her in the trees

561
00:30:21.920 --> 00:30:23.559
<v Speaker 1>and then knocked on the wood to let her know

562
00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:26.440
<v Speaker 1>it was there. There's a guy I'll call Earl who

563
00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:28.720
<v Speaker 1>liked to catfish at night off a sand bar on

564
00:30:28.720 --> 00:30:31.920
<v Speaker 1>one of the bigger rivers, lantern hissing next to him,

565
00:30:32.240 --> 00:30:35.000
<v Speaker 1>a couple of lines out in the channel, about as

566
00:30:35.039 --> 00:30:37.960
<v Speaker 1>peaceful a thing as a man can do, And one

567
00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:41.279
<v Speaker 1>warm night over on the far bank, something started moving.

568
00:30:42.039 --> 00:30:45.279
<v Speaker 1>Earl figured deer at first, deer come to water at night,

569
00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:48.920
<v Speaker 1>But deer don't do what this did. It waded out

570
00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:52.599
<v Speaker 1>into the river and started coming across toward him, upright

571
00:30:53.160 --> 00:30:56.079
<v Speaker 1>on two legs, through water that be up past the

572
00:30:56.160 --> 00:30:59.640
<v Speaker 1>deer's belly. The splash is coming slow and heavy, and

573
00:30:59.680 --> 00:31:03.279
<v Speaker 1>he could hear it breathing, this wet, low working sound

574
00:31:03.319 --> 00:31:06.960
<v Speaker 1>out there in the dark, coming closer. So Earl did

575
00:31:06.960 --> 00:31:09.319
<v Speaker 1>the only smart thing he could come up with. He

576
00:31:09.400 --> 00:31:12.240
<v Speaker 1>reached over and killed the lantern. And he sat there

577
00:31:12.480 --> 00:31:16.000
<v Speaker 1>dead still on that sandbar, in the pitch black, listening

578
00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:19.160
<v Speaker 1>to whatever it was stop out in the middle of

579
00:31:19.200 --> 00:31:22.880
<v Speaker 1>the river and just stand there in the current breathing.

580
00:31:23.720 --> 00:31:25.720
<v Speaker 1>He swears he could feel it looking at the spot

581
00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:29.200
<v Speaker 1>where the light had been. And after a while, a

582
00:31:29.240 --> 00:31:32.279
<v Speaker 1>long while, it turned around and waited back the way

583
00:31:32.319 --> 00:31:36.519
<v Speaker 1>it came up the far bank gone. Earle left his

584
00:31:36.599 --> 00:31:39.079
<v Speaker 1>lines in the water, rolled up his gear by feel

585
00:31:39.119 --> 00:31:41.720
<v Speaker 1>in the dark, and never night fished that hole again.

586
00:31:42.359 --> 00:31:45.680
<v Speaker 1>And he'd fished at thirty years. There's a farmer I'll

587
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:48.359
<v Speaker 1>call Wendell who learned to trust his cattle before he

588
00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:52.240
<v Speaker 1>trusted his own eyes. One night, his whole herd bunched

589
00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:55.039
<v Speaker 1>up tight in the far corner of the pasture, jammed

590
00:31:55.079 --> 00:31:58.799
<v Speaker 1>into the fence, bawling. Every head turned the same way

591
00:31:59.400 --> 00:32:02.720
<v Speaker 1>out toward the timber along the creek. Wendell grabbed a

592
00:32:02.720 --> 00:32:06.480
<v Speaker 1>spotlight and walked out there, figuring coyote, maybe a stray dog.

593
00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:10.319
<v Speaker 1>Light didn't find anything, but the smell hit him before

594
00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:14.839
<v Speaker 1>he was even halfway across the field. Rank sour, wet,

595
00:32:14.880 --> 00:32:18.519
<v Speaker 1>animal stink so thick. He gagged on it, a smell

596
00:32:18.559 --> 00:32:21.720
<v Speaker 1>with no animal anywhere to go with it. Next morning,

597
00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:24.200
<v Speaker 1>he went down to the creek line. A section of

598
00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:27.759
<v Speaker 1>his woven wire fence, good tight fence he'd put up himself,

599
00:32:28.160 --> 00:32:31.680
<v Speaker 1>was pushed flat to the ground, not cut, not broke,

600
00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:35.960
<v Speaker 1>pushed over like something heavy just walked through it and

601
00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:38.400
<v Speaker 1>in the soft ground passed it. There was a track

602
00:32:39.160 --> 00:32:41.920
<v Speaker 1>up on the top wire snagged up high, higher than

603
00:32:41.960 --> 00:32:44.599
<v Speaker 1>a man's shoulders. There was a clump of coarse, dark hair.

604
00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:48.799
<v Speaker 1>Wendell's lost the odd calf over the years, stuff you

605
00:32:48.880 --> 00:32:51.880
<v Speaker 1>right off to coyotes or bad luck. He keeps that

606
00:32:51.960 --> 00:32:54.359
<v Speaker 1>hair in a sandwich bag and a kitchen drawer, and

607
00:32:54.400 --> 00:32:57.039
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't show it around much because he's seen the

608
00:32:57.039 --> 00:33:00.400
<v Speaker 1>look people give you, and he's a proud man. He'd

609
00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:03.279
<v Speaker 1>rather keep the hair and his dignity both. And none

610
00:33:03.319 --> 00:33:06.720
<v Speaker 1>of these ever made it into an official report, not sharing,

611
00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:10.400
<v Speaker 1>not the mushroom hunters not the kids on the gravel road,

612
00:33:11.000 --> 00:33:13.480
<v Speaker 1>not the boy at deer camp, not the woman on

613
00:33:13.519 --> 00:33:17.359
<v Speaker 1>the trail, not Earl on his sandbar, not Wendell and

614
00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:21.720
<v Speaker 1>his spooked cattle, not Dale and his dogs. No photos,

615
00:33:22.119 --> 00:33:25.880
<v Speaker 1>no plaster casts, no deputy driving out to take a look.

616
00:33:26.599 --> 00:33:29.720
<v Speaker 1>Just regular Iowa people who saw or heard or smelled

617
00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:32.759
<v Speaker 1>something one time and carried it around quietly the rest

618
00:33:32.759 --> 00:33:35.599
<v Speaker 1>of their lives. And then think about every farm and

619
00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:38.200
<v Speaker 1>every back road and every patch of river timber in

620
00:33:38.240 --> 00:33:41.039
<v Speaker 1>the state, all the ones that never get told at

621
00:33:41.079 --> 00:33:44.519
<v Speaker 1>all because the person's afraid of the look you'll give them.

622
00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:46.559
<v Speaker 1>That's when you start to get a sense of how

623
00:33:46.640 --> 00:33:49.480
<v Speaker 1>much of this never makes it into any database anywhere.

624
00:33:50.200 --> 00:33:51.960
<v Speaker 1>A few quick ones, because they all kind of go

625
00:33:52.039 --> 00:33:55.839
<v Speaker 1>the same way. There's a semi driver out in Boone County,

626
00:33:56.319 --> 00:33:58.599
<v Speaker 1>a guy whose whole job is watching the road and

627
00:33:58.640 --> 00:34:01.759
<v Speaker 1>the fields go by, said he watched a big, upright

628
00:34:01.839 --> 00:34:05.400
<v Speaker 1>something running flat out across an open field, chasing a deer.

629
00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Out in the open country where there's supposedly nowhere to

630
00:34:09.519 --> 00:34:12.639
<v Speaker 1>hide and nothing to see. A trucker watched a hairy

631
00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:15.119
<v Speaker 1>giant run a deer down, and then he had to

632
00:34:15.199 --> 00:34:18.800
<v Speaker 1>drive on and deliver his load like nothing happened. Up

633
00:34:18.880 --> 00:34:21.719
<v Speaker 1>by Prodivan in the northeast part of the state, a

634
00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:24.280
<v Speaker 1>guy out walking with his wife one morning heard two

635
00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:27.480
<v Speaker 1>heavy knocks come out of the woods, wood on wood,

636
00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:32.119
<v Speaker 1>loud on purpose. A lifelong country guy who'd hunted his

637
00:34:32.199 --> 00:34:34.880
<v Speaker 1>whole life, and he'd never heard anything like it, and

638
00:34:34.960 --> 00:34:35.760
<v Speaker 1>never forgot it.

639
00:34:36.320 --> 00:34:38.159
<v Speaker 2>And over by Eldridge.

640
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:41.039
<v Speaker 1>In Scott County, back in the late eighties, a camper

641
00:34:41.079 --> 00:34:47.840
<v Speaker 1>saw one seven eight nine feet tall upright harry there

642
00:34:47.880 --> 00:34:51.320
<v Speaker 1>and then gone one more regular person who went out

643
00:34:51.320 --> 00:34:53.679
<v Speaker 1>to sleep under the stars and came home with the

644
00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:56.519
<v Speaker 1>story they'd spend the rest of their life half wishing

645
00:34:56.559 --> 00:35:00.559
<v Speaker 1>they could forget. Knocks in the timber, a shape running down,

646
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:03.400
<v Speaker 1>a deer, a figure standing at the edge of camp.

647
00:35:04.119 --> 00:35:07.440
<v Speaker 1>None of it floats, none of it glows, all of

648
00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:11.480
<v Speaker 1>it walks. But Bigfoot and the van meter visitor aren't

649
00:35:11.519 --> 00:35:14.840
<v Speaker 1>the only weird things people encounter in Iowa. And since

650
00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:17.199
<v Speaker 1>we've got all night in a full tank, let me

651
00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:19.480
<v Speaker 1>get off the cryptid road for a minute and show

652
00:35:19.480 --> 00:35:21.800
<v Speaker 1>you a couple of other things this state has to offer.

653
00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:26.159
<v Speaker 1>Go to Iowa City, find the Oakland Cemetery and walk

654
00:35:26.199 --> 00:35:28.239
<v Speaker 1>back into the old part of it until you hit

655
00:35:28.280 --> 00:35:32.320
<v Speaker 1>the black angel. You can't really miss her. Bronze angel

656
00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:35.159
<v Speaker 1>somewhere around eight and a half feet tall, standing up

657
00:35:35.239 --> 00:35:38.239
<v Speaker 1>on a stone base, one wing thrown out to the side,

658
00:35:38.760 --> 00:35:42.159
<v Speaker 1>head bowed down low over the grave underneath, and the

659
00:35:42.199 --> 00:35:45.719
<v Speaker 1>whole thing's gone black, not green, the way old bronze

660
00:35:45.800 --> 00:35:49.679
<v Speaker 1>usually goes black, dark as a burnt match head to

661
00:35:49.719 --> 00:35:52.719
<v Speaker 1>foot standing over a check name carved in the stone.

662
00:35:53.159 --> 00:35:56.320
<v Speaker 1>The Feldevert family, the true part of it is sadder

663
00:35:56.400 --> 00:35:59.880
<v Speaker 1>than any ghost story. A Bohemian immigrant woman named ter

664
00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:03.519
<v Speaker 1>Resa Feldeverert buried her boy there first. Back in eighteen

665
00:36:03.599 --> 00:36:07.360
<v Speaker 1>ninety one, a son named Eddie, wanted to be a doctor,

666
00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:11.280
<v Speaker 1>died of meningitis as a teenager. She marked his grave

667
00:36:11.360 --> 00:36:14.920
<v Speaker 1>with a stone tree stump cut short, a life cut

668
00:36:14.920 --> 00:36:18.480
<v Speaker 1>off before it got going. Years later, after she'd lost

669
00:36:18.480 --> 00:36:21.440
<v Speaker 1>a husband too, she had this big bronze angel made

670
00:36:21.480 --> 00:36:24.400
<v Speaker 1>by a Czech sculptor to stand over the family plot

671
00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:27.039
<v Speaker 1>and over her own grave for whenever she'd need it.

672
00:36:27.719 --> 00:36:30.960
<v Speaker 1>She died in nineteen twenty four, just about broke, no

673
00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:34.639
<v Speaker 1>family left to even carve her death gear into the stone.

674
00:36:34.679 --> 00:36:37.840
<v Speaker 1>It's still blank. And here's where the town took over,

675
00:36:38.519 --> 00:36:41.000
<v Speaker 1>because within a few years of that angel going up,

676
00:36:41.159 --> 00:36:44.760
<v Speaker 1>the bronz started to darken, which is just what bronze does.

677
00:36:45.400 --> 00:36:48.199
<v Speaker 1>The metal reacts to the weather and the air. Nothing

678
00:36:48.239 --> 00:36:51.360
<v Speaker 1>stranger than that, but a black angel in a graveyard.

679
00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:53.880
<v Speaker 1>That's the kind of thing people build stories around.

680
00:36:54.440 --> 00:36:55.039
<v Speaker 2>And they did.

681
00:36:55.639 --> 00:36:58.480
<v Speaker 1>They say, if you touch her, you'll die. They say,

682
00:36:58.519 --> 00:37:01.519
<v Speaker 1>if you kiss her at midnight on, you've got seven

683
00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:04.559
<v Speaker 1>years left and not a day more. They say, a

684
00:37:04.599 --> 00:37:07.400
<v Speaker 1>pregnant woman who walks under that wing loses the baby.

685
00:37:08.159 --> 00:37:10.880
<v Speaker 1>They say the statue goes a little darker every year,

686
00:37:11.440 --> 00:37:14.880
<v Speaker 1>one shade for every soul it's taken. They say a

687
00:37:14.880 --> 00:37:17.079
<v Speaker 1>guy kissed her foot on a dare and caught some

688
00:37:17.239 --> 00:37:20.719
<v Speaker 1>rare disease that wasted him away. People leave money at

689
00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:25.239
<v Speaker 1>her feet, flowers, bottles of liquor, set down like offerings

690
00:37:25.239 --> 00:37:28.480
<v Speaker 1>to something that might be listening. And every Halloween the

691
00:37:28.480 --> 00:37:30.639
<v Speaker 1>college kids dare each other to put a hand on

692
00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:33.599
<v Speaker 1>her and tempt the curse, and the cemetery has to

693
00:37:33.599 --> 00:37:36.039
<v Speaker 1>put on extra eyes to keep them from chipping pieces

694
00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:40.320
<v Speaker 1>off because over the years people have they've snapped off

695
00:37:40.320 --> 00:37:44.679
<v Speaker 1>her fingers, broke her thumb painted her worse. Do I

696
00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:45.880
<v Speaker 1>think she's killed anybody?

697
00:37:46.480 --> 00:37:46.559
<v Speaker 2>No?

698
00:37:47.280 --> 00:37:49.960
<v Speaker 1>The black is chemistry, and the curses are the kind

699
00:37:50.000 --> 00:37:52.800
<v Speaker 1>of thing a town builds up around anything strange enough

700
00:37:53.079 --> 00:37:56.159
<v Speaker 1>that it needs explaining. But here's what sticks with me

701
00:37:56.760 --> 00:37:59.719
<v Speaker 1>on this particular trip. We started the night with a

702
00:37:59.760 --> 00:38:02.599
<v Speaker 1>wing thing in Van Meter that went black against the

703
00:38:02.639 --> 00:38:06.280
<v Speaker 1>sky and scared a whole town. And here's another winged figure,

704
00:38:06.599 --> 00:38:09.519
<v Speaker 1>also gone black, that a whole town decided to be

705
00:38:09.559 --> 00:38:13.079
<v Speaker 1>scared of. I always got a thing about dark, winged shapes.

706
00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Make of that what you want. Up in Fort Dodge,

707
00:38:16.519 --> 00:38:19.280
<v Speaker 1>there's a house that's strange for a reason most haunted

708
00:38:19.280 --> 00:38:22.360
<v Speaker 1>houses aren't, which is that the people who built it

709
00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:26.039
<v Speaker 1>invited the ghosts in on purpose. It's called the Vincent House,

710
00:38:26.639 --> 00:38:29.719
<v Speaker 1>oldest building in town, put up back in eighteen seventy

711
00:38:29.719 --> 00:38:33.440
<v Speaker 1>two by a couple named James and Adeline Swain. And

712
00:38:33.480 --> 00:38:37.199
<v Speaker 1>the Swains were spiritualists. That was a real movement back then,

713
00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:40.880
<v Speaker 1>big and respectable people who believed the dead were still

714
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:44.000
<v Speaker 1>close by and you could talk to them. They held

715
00:38:44.039 --> 00:38:48.159
<v Speaker 1>seances in the parlor, welcome spirits and like guests. The

716
00:38:48.239 --> 00:38:51.159
<v Speaker 1>Swains built that house wanting the other side to come visit,

717
00:38:51.800 --> 00:38:54.119
<v Speaker 1>so you can imagine what one hundred and fifty years

718
00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:58.079
<v Speaker 1>of that reputation does to a place. The caretaker today

719
00:38:58.119 --> 00:39:01.360
<v Speaker 1>will tell you the house never really empt out. As

720
00:39:01.400 --> 00:39:03.599
<v Speaker 1>far as I could find, there were two deaths in

721
00:39:03.679 --> 00:39:07.480
<v Speaker 1>it over the years, Helen Vincent and Charles Vincent, who

722
00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:10.599
<v Speaker 1>owned it after the Swains were gone. Folks claimed to

723
00:39:10.639 --> 00:39:13.880
<v Speaker 1>have seen both of them, full apparitions, plain as a

724
00:39:13.880 --> 00:39:18.679
<v Speaker 1>living person, and then the usual stuff, footsteps crossing floors

725
00:39:18.679 --> 00:39:21.800
<v Speaker 1>with nobody on them, things that end up somewhere other

726
00:39:21.840 --> 00:39:25.079
<v Speaker 1>than where you set them down. A medium walked through

727
00:39:25.079 --> 00:39:27.480
<v Speaker 1>once and came out saying she'd counted better than two

728
00:39:27.559 --> 00:39:32.039
<v Speaker 1>dozen spirits still keeping house in there. Now, let's be honest. Here,

729
00:39:32.559 --> 00:39:35.840
<v Speaker 1>an old house settles and ticks and breeze drafts through

730
00:39:35.880 --> 00:39:39.400
<v Speaker 1>gaps one hundred years wide, and once the story's planted,

731
00:39:39.800 --> 00:39:43.519
<v Speaker 1>a creaking floor joist sounds like a footstep every single time.

732
00:39:44.280 --> 00:39:46.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't think the dead are filing through the Vincent House.

733
00:39:47.159 --> 00:39:48.760
<v Speaker 1>But I'll give it the same thing I gave the

734
00:39:48.760 --> 00:39:52.199
<v Speaker 1>Black Angel. There's a weight to a place when enough people,

735
00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:54.760
<v Speaker 1>for long enough have agreed to be afraid of it.

736
00:39:55.400 --> 00:39:58.239
<v Speaker 1>The Swains wanted their house full of the departed. One

737
00:39:58.280 --> 00:40:00.840
<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty years on. Many of people in Fort

738
00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:03.880
<v Speaker 1>Dodge will tell you they got their wish. Here's one

739
00:40:03.960 --> 00:40:07.280
<v Speaker 1>last one, and this one's more my wheelhouse, because it's

740
00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:09.559
<v Speaker 1>about a flesh and blood animal that's supposed to be

741
00:40:09.639 --> 00:40:15.440
<v Speaker 1>gone and just keeps refusing to be cougars, mountain lions, panthers, pumas,

742
00:40:15.920 --> 00:40:17.960
<v Speaker 1>whatever you grew up calling them.

743
00:40:18.159 --> 00:40:19.639
<v Speaker 2>Officially, they got wiped.

744
00:40:19.320 --> 00:40:22.639
<v Speaker 1>Out of Iowa more than one hundred years ago. Hunted out,

745
00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:27.360
<v Speaker 1>run off, gone, case closed. There are no breeding mountain

746
00:40:27.400 --> 00:40:29.920
<v Speaker 1>lions in Iowa, the state will tell you, and on

747
00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:35.400
<v Speaker 1>paper that's true, except people keep seeing them year after year,

748
00:40:35.840 --> 00:40:40.199
<v Speaker 1>decade after decade. Iowan's turn In reports a big tan

749
00:40:40.320 --> 00:40:43.800
<v Speaker 1>cat slipping across a country road, standing at the edge

750
00:40:43.840 --> 00:40:47.400
<v Speaker 1>of a field, screaming in the dark, that awful sound

751
00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:51.360
<v Speaker 1>a cougar makes like a woman screaming. That'll stand every

752
00:40:51.400 --> 00:40:54.360
<v Speaker 1>hair on you straight up. Hikers up in the wooded

753
00:40:54.360 --> 00:40:57.559
<v Speaker 1>bluffs in the north part of the state, Farmers checking

754
00:40:57.599 --> 00:41:01.239
<v Speaker 1>stock at dusk, drivers catching the long, heavy tail in

755
00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:04.639
<v Speaker 1>the headlights. Too long for a bobcat, too low and

756
00:41:04.719 --> 00:41:08.239
<v Speaker 1>lean for any housecat. The official line is that most

757
00:41:08.239 --> 00:41:12.119
<v Speaker 1>of these are mistakes, big dogs, bobcats, tricks of the light,

758
00:41:12.760 --> 00:41:15.280
<v Speaker 1>and the real ones are just young males wandering through

759
00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:19.920
<v Speaker 1>from the Dakotas or Nebraska, passing through nothing that actually

760
00:41:19.960 --> 00:41:23.760
<v Speaker 1>lives here. Maybe, but it tells you something, doesn't it,

761
00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:27.320
<v Speaker 1>About how thin that line is between officially gone and

762
00:41:27.400 --> 00:41:31.000
<v Speaker 1>actually gone. You've got a two hundred pound predator, an

763
00:41:31.039 --> 00:41:34.719
<v Speaker 1>animal everybody agrees is real, that the state says doesn't

764
00:41:34.760 --> 00:41:38.480
<v Speaker 1>live here, and people keep seeing it anyway, in the

765
00:41:38.519 --> 00:41:41.480
<v Speaker 1>same river, timber and wooded bluffs where they keep seeing

766
00:41:41.519 --> 00:41:45.119
<v Speaker 1>the tall, hairy thing nobody will admit is real at all.

767
00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:48.760
<v Speaker 1>If a known animal can stay that invisible in this state,

768
00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:51.840
<v Speaker 1>that hard to pin down, that easy to wave off

769
00:41:51.840 --> 00:41:54.639
<v Speaker 1>as a mistake, then tell me again why a shy

770
00:41:54.719 --> 00:41:57.920
<v Speaker 1>one we haven't cataloged yet couldn't do the exact same

771
00:41:58.000 --> 00:42:01.559
<v Speaker 1>thing in the same woods for the same hundred years.

772
00:42:02.199 --> 00:42:05.679
<v Speaker 1>That's the part that truly gets me. Not the glowing horns,

773
00:42:06.079 --> 00:42:09.280
<v Speaker 1>not the curses, just the plain fact that even the

774
00:42:09.320 --> 00:42:12.360
<v Speaker 1>animals we know about can disappear into Iowa and have

775
00:42:12.480 --> 00:42:14.039
<v Speaker 1>us all arguing about whether.

776
00:42:13.920 --> 00:42:14.719
<v Speaker 2>They're really there.

777
00:42:15.320 --> 00:42:17.840
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you why I believe the people in these stories,

778
00:42:18.440 --> 00:42:21.639
<v Speaker 1>and it's got nothing to do with wanting to. I

779
00:42:21.679 --> 00:42:24.199
<v Speaker 1>spent years on the other side of a badge, taking

780
00:42:24.239 --> 00:42:26.920
<v Speaker 1>statements from people on what was usually the worst day

781
00:42:26.960 --> 00:42:30.119
<v Speaker 1>of their life. You learn some things doing that. You

782
00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:33.159
<v Speaker 1>learn pretty fast the difference between somebody telling you a

783
00:42:33.199 --> 00:42:36.360
<v Speaker 1>story and somebody telling you what happened to them. The

784
00:42:36.440 --> 00:42:40.000
<v Speaker 1>liar performs, he's watching your face the whole time to

785
00:42:40.039 --> 00:42:42.400
<v Speaker 1>see if it's landing, and he reaches for the big,

786
00:42:42.519 --> 00:42:45.760
<v Speaker 1>dramatic words, and the story gets better every time he

787
00:42:45.840 --> 00:42:49.960
<v Speaker 1>tells it, more detail, more color, the monster a little

788
00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:54.079
<v Speaker 1>taller each time. The honest one does the opposite. He's

789
00:42:54.079 --> 00:42:57.039
<v Speaker 1>not performing for you. He's still half stuck back in

790
00:42:57.079 --> 00:42:59.960
<v Speaker 1>the moment, and he gives you the small, useless detail

791
00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:03.360
<v Speaker 1>nobody would bother to make up, the cupped hands at

792
00:43:03.360 --> 00:43:06.360
<v Speaker 1>the river, the dog that wouldn't go back in the timber,

793
00:43:07.039 --> 00:43:09.199
<v Speaker 1>the clump of hair up too high on the fence.

794
00:43:09.840 --> 00:43:12.199
<v Speaker 1>And he tells it the same flat way every time,

795
00:43:12.360 --> 00:43:16.079
<v Speaker 1>year after year, because he's not building a story, he's

796
00:43:16.119 --> 00:43:19.280
<v Speaker 1>just reporting the one thing he can't put down. That's

797
00:43:19.320 --> 00:43:23.480
<v Speaker 1>what I hear in these Iowa accounts, not performances, reports

798
00:43:24.119 --> 00:43:26.559
<v Speaker 1>from farmers and hunters and truckers and a twelve year

799
00:43:26.599 --> 00:43:30.199
<v Speaker 1>old kid, people with jobs and reputations and nothing to

800
00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:33.599
<v Speaker 1>gain by opening their mouths. And that last part matters

801
00:43:33.599 --> 00:43:36.280
<v Speaker 1>more than anything else, because you've got to ask what

802
00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:39.360
<v Speaker 1>it costs somebody to tell one of these stories. It

803
00:43:39.440 --> 00:43:43.440
<v Speaker 1>costs them plenty. It costs them the look, the raised eyebrow,

804
00:43:44.159 --> 00:43:46.639
<v Speaker 1>the quiet little decision other people make that may be

805
00:43:46.800 --> 00:43:50.480
<v Speaker 1>old so and so isn't quite right anymore. Nobody signs

806
00:43:50.559 --> 00:43:53.519
<v Speaker 1>up for that. Nobody in a small town where your

807
00:43:53.599 --> 00:43:56.320
<v Speaker 1>name is about the only thing you really own, stands

808
00:43:56.360 --> 00:43:58.760
<v Speaker 1>up and says he saw a hairy giant cross his

809
00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:02.519
<v Speaker 1>back forty He's either a fool or he actually saw it.

810
00:44:03.119 --> 00:44:06.119
<v Speaker 1>And most of these people are nobody's fool. They sat

811
00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:09.639
<v Speaker 1>on it for years, told one person made me.

812
00:44:09.679 --> 00:44:10.960
<v Speaker 2>Drag it out of them.

813
00:44:11.159 --> 00:44:14.760
<v Speaker 1>That reluctance that costs they so plainly didn't want to pay.

814
00:44:15.239 --> 00:44:18.400
<v Speaker 1>That's its own kind of evidence. People lie when there's

815
00:44:18.400 --> 00:44:21.599
<v Speaker 1>something in it for them. There's nothing in this. There's

816
00:44:21.639 --> 00:44:24.760
<v Speaker 1>just the ridicule and the truth they couldn't quite swallow.

817
00:44:25.400 --> 00:44:26.360
<v Speaker 2>So that's the stop.

818
00:44:26.679 --> 00:44:29.960
<v Speaker 1>That's Iowa, a winged devil and a sealed up coal

819
00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:33.320
<v Speaker 1>mine that I can't explain and won't try to. That

820
00:44:33.360 --> 00:44:35.880
<v Speaker 1>one's parked back in episode one forty seven. If you

821
00:44:35.920 --> 00:44:39.480
<v Speaker 1>want the whole nightmare, a black angel in a graveyard,

822
00:44:39.519 --> 00:44:42.719
<v Speaker 1>a whole town decided to fear, a big cat that's

823
00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:46.159
<v Speaker 1>supposed to be gone and won't go, And underneath all

824
00:44:46.199 --> 00:44:49.159
<v Speaker 1>of it, running quiet through every river, valley and wooded

825
00:44:49.159 --> 00:44:51.920
<v Speaker 1>bluff and creek bottom in the state. The thing I

826
00:44:51.960 --> 00:44:56.440
<v Speaker 1>actually came here for, the tall one, the dark one,

827
00:44:56.559 --> 00:44:58.639
<v Speaker 1>the one that drinks from the river with cupped hands,

828
00:44:58.679 --> 00:45:01.840
<v Speaker 1>and clears a five foot fence without breaking stride, and

829
00:45:01.880 --> 00:45:03.719
<v Speaker 1>sits down at the foot of a hunter's tree and

830
00:45:03.800 --> 00:45:07.360
<v Speaker 1>chooses every single time to just walk away instead of

831
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:10.480
<v Speaker 1>doing the worst thing it could so easily do. Seventy

832
00:45:10.519 --> 00:45:13.599
<v Speaker 1>eight reports in county, farmers and hunters and truckers, and

833
00:45:13.639 --> 00:45:15.960
<v Speaker 1>a twelve year old kid and a coon hunter's two

834
00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:20.039
<v Speaker 1>good dogs, all of them describing the same animal, not

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<v Speaker 1>one of them with a thing to gain by it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have it figured out. I've got no body,

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<v Speaker 1>no bones, nothing I could set on a table to

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<v Speaker 1>make you believe me. What I've got is a state

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<v Speaker 1>full of level headed people who saw something in the

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<v Speaker 1>timber and never could shake it, and a hunch, after

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<v Speaker 1>almost forty years of chasing this that they weren't all wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep your eyes on.

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<v Speaker 1>The tree line, watch that gap between the cottonwoods where

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<v Speaker 1>the dark sits a little darker than it ought to.

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<v Speaker 1>And next stop down the road, we'll go find out

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<v Speaker 1>what the dark's hiding somewhere else did to Pat
