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Speaker 1: Made a decision.

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Speaker 2: Pay sunny Sun yet on I had a vision night.

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What's up everybody? Welcome to for crying out loud to Friday,

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Happy Friday. Did they find Nancy Guthrie? Yet? No, they didn't.

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Where is she? Where's that lady? They did?

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Speaker 1: Okay, we did, just get says Yeah, Nancy Guthrie's family

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members cleared as suspects in her disappearance. So nobody in

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the family at this point, no, no in laws, no nothing.

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Speaker 2: They're all cleared. Thank god. Okay, that's good news. We're

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recording this on Monday. You guys are hearing this on Friday,

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on Friday. Yeah, so hopefully we found her by No

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news about the glove. Well, I found out that the

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the glove that they found matched the DNA to inside

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the house. Did I? I guess here's a thing too hard.

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Can we talk about Harvey Loan for a second?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: What is with him? Like every hour on the hour,

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he's like I got another note and this is what

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the FBI say. They are keenly, keenly interested in this

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new note. The FBI. I mean, if you have seen

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him like he isn't he trying to buy He's like

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made an offer on the letters or something. I think

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somebody was saying, why don't you wasn't TMZ just pay

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that bitcoin just to see if this person knows where

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this where Nancy is?

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Speaker 1: That is fake.

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Speaker 2: It's no, I come on, there's no. First of all,

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I was watching somebody else talk about the statistics of

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kidnapping an elderly woman in their eighties is like zero

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zero point one. It's like nothing. Who kidnaps a woman

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in her eighties? But again, they didn't take anything from

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the house, so she must have been kidnapped. There's blood

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of hers on the front porch. What what happened?

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Speaker 1: Why did they think somebody knew? I mean, I'm not

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breaking any news, but I think somebody knew that Savannah

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Guthrie was the daughter of this woman, and they're like, oh,

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this is like a little gold mine right here in.

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Speaker 2: My little neighborhood. Yeah, in Arizona, right, it's not like

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it's Beverly Hills. So then you think, but then why

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not reach out to the family with the ransom? Why

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are you going to these media stations? Yeah, I have

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That's what I don't know. I don't understand when okay,

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when I kidnapped somebody, but it was all so long, right, Yeah,

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we're different, Like they couldn't catch the eighties, Yes, the

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total eighties.

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Speaker 1: You couldn't even google stuff right when DNA.

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Speaker 2: I was old school, Like.

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Speaker 1: I got a piece of paper, I got a magazine,

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right letters, and I formed a message, you know, and

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then we did the deal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was so sent it straight to the family, right,

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is that how you? And also what were you wearing

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those fat gloves too? Because those gloves if you're gonna

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go rob a place, why are you wearing these fat gloves?

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You can't How are you going to open the drawers

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and go through jewelry with these fat ass gloves?

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Speaker 1: But they didn't take anything, so but they didn't trying

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to hide their fingers there, so.

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Speaker 2: They so then they did just take her.

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Speaker 1: But then why wouldn't you just were like latex gloves

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exactly like my smoking gloves grip right, yeah, yes, right,

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So when I do my kidnapping, Yes, when I do

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my kidnapping, I can I get stressed so I can

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have a smoke right after and have to change my gloves.

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I got my smoking gloves on, right, latex ones. So

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we just feels so bad because Savannah got three like,

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oh hot up. I can't even I can't. I can't

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imagine just having to be a public person and having

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something like I can't think of a time this has happened.

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I know it's hidnappings of like famous people are celebrities kids, right,

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it hasn't that honestly hasn't been since like the eighties.

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Speaker 2: Oh it went out of style. I mean it was

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what Frank Sinatra's son was kidnapped. I think. For that's

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about I don't know. I can't even think of anything else.

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It's just it's so And also why why did the

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press conference stop? Why aren't they they're asking for the

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help of the of the public, but then no any

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press conferences for like two I mean a week or

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two ago. It's they just stopped. And then that sheriff

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goes to the basketball game and then the only time

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he comes out is to defend himself, Like I have

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no problem with the FBI, okay, but you come out

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and talk about that, But why not talk about what's

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going on in the case, like inform us, you want

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us to help, you want our help, Why aren't you

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coming out and giving us something. It's just weird.

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Speaker 1: It's really weird, and it it's sadly. It makes me

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wonder if she's not alive anymore and hasn't been in

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a long time. And that's why they couldn't try to

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enforce the ransom because they'd have to yeah, proof of life, right,

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what do we do with her?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 1: I think they didn't. They didn't bargain for the fact

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that she was going to need medication.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think so, probably.

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Speaker 1: Don't kidnap somebody and go by the way, are you

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on any messages that you need?

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Speaker 2: What medical?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Which are they?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let me go get is there a local pharmacy

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that we could pick up a refill? Or do you

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have enough to get you to This should be done

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in like a couple of days.

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Speaker 2: We'll wrap it up right, right. But they probably were like,

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oh no, yeah, it's just so bizarre, the whole thing.

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I just I mean, I pray for her, I helped

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they find her. Savannah breaks my heart. Then the other

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video in this kind of old news, but that other

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video where the three of them and she said, you know,

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we hear you, and we want to bring you. We

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want to bring my our mom home to celebrate. To me,

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I mean, what did you think when you heard that?

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I felt like she was saying, we know she's gone,

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but we want her to celebrate her life. Like, why

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would you use the word to celebrate? I heard it

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that way too, That's how I heard it, sadly. And

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then they then they stopped doing their videos until Savannah

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did her little one over the weekend, but then they

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haven't come out with that. Do you think that she

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knows that her mom's gone? I do you think she

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still has hope? I think she might know, because why

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they haven't How are they communicating with the ransom people

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except for on these videos? But they haven't since that video,

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there haven't hasn't been any other videos of like and

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we want to talk to one was fake with a

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hoax the first the first ransom. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And so do they think there is are any of

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these ransoms being taken seriously?

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Speaker 2: Yes? According to Harvey Levin, okay tell me yes. Sheriff

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Levin is on the case and he said that they

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are keenly interested in these these ransom notes. They're well crafted.

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Whoever wrote it is you know you could tell is

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pretty intelligent, and they're flattering. They're just trying to try

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to flatter the guy. Yeah, he's like, yeah, my writing

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class is really paid off because you know, a lot

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of these murders.

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Speaker 1: And oh my god, a little bit later, we're going

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to talk about this other thing.

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Speaker 2: We watched documentary.

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Speaker 1: Oh every time there's some kind of killer, and you

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ever notice that the detectives are always like, he thinks

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he's smarter than everybody. Yes, So maybe Harvey Levin is

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just playing into that, right, Like you sound really this

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person's very intelligent. Yeah, you know what I mean, So

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hoping that they'll slip up right, that's a good point.

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Speaker 2: People think I'm really smart. That's a good point. So

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they got the ransom letters, but then they also got

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this one person that's saying, we I know where she

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is and if you pay me the bitcoin i'll give you,

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I'll let you know where she is. And I don't

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know if they're taking that one that series, I don't know.

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I don't know. Chech tmz every hour on the hour,

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he's always coming out with a new thing, Harvey. You know,

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like a month or two ago, Cecily and I started

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talking about this did you do you remember when the

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SNL writer said that his sister had disappeared. The sister

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is missing.

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Speaker 1: Her name is Christina Downer, uh huh, and they were like,

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she doesn't have mental health issues. She didn't just like

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wander away. She's not on drugs. I think. So this

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girl disappeared, and it's so weird because so Nancy Guthrie

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is getting so much press attention, and this story got

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like some attention.

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Speaker 2: Everybody had kind of heard about it.

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Speaker 1: Literally if you google it, there's like not one single

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update in over a month.

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Speaker 2: That's so crazy.

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Speaker 1: And this girl's not found, still not found.

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Speaker 2: No, yeah, I mean if you look at the missing

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Person's website, Nancy Guthrie's up there now, her face is,

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and there's so many people that went just go missing.

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just to disappear. I mean, I don't I hope this

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that our case doesn't go cold, but I mean I

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feel like people are fatigued already, you know, because they're

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not getting any answers. It's just all baffling.

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Speaker 1: I remember years ago, I mean we're talking like twenty years.

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Speaker 2: Ago, when you did your kidnapping. Yes. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I remember seeing an episode of Unsolved Mysteries about this

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disappearance that was like so crazy, you know. It was

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like whatever, this couple had been married for you know,

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thirty years, forty years, and then one day like the

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guy is just whatever, the guy or the woman whatever missing.

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Nobody can find them. They there's no money trail, there's

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no there's no ransom note, there's no like and they're like,

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oh my god, did this person suddenly like have get

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a concussion and lose their memory? Like and it was

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such a crazy story. And I remember when I'm when

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was like, there's a couple of unsolved mysteries that have

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always like stood out in my mind.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, there's this one. Do you remember

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this case?

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Speaker 1: And it was a missing person and the guy he

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was it disappeared without a trace. And she was like,

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most of these people wanted to go missing, o missing,

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like uh left, right right, and then that reminded me

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obviously that's not the case with this. There was blood there.

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that's so crazy. Yeah they're missing, and it's like, no,

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Speaker 2: Want to be fake, didn't want it. Didn't that happen

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to Olivia John?

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Speaker 1: Yes, husband fucking faked his own death. Yeah, and then

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he was found Like imagine faking your own death to

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get away from the beauty A full talent. It's Olivia

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Newton John.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy, Like, just get a divorce right right? Right?

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What I know, it's bizarre. They should think we need

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to do with this. Somebody needs to do a documentary

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on that. Yes, I watch the shit out here. Yeah,

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me too. What happened to mister Olivia Newton John? Yes,

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faked his death?

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Speaker 1: Yes, and she never really talked about it very much

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because then they found him years later?

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Speaker 2: Right right? Imagine how you feel like your husband fakes

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his own death just to get away from you. So

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embarrassing you're like, does my breath smell? Like what's going on? Wow?

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Olivia Newton John too, Like, come on, I know, let's

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get a divorce. Yes, it's crazy. Yeah, I don't know.

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our podcast last two Mondays ago. Yeah, and then as

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soon as I left, I started seeing all these alerts

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that Nancy Guthrie was missing.

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Speaker 1: You posted a thing and you were like, Okay, step

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and I are going to find her. Like I guess

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it's up to us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we have to go, like, let's go people. Yeah,

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f col ers, you know, Gabby and Missy with their

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one flip flop and everybody, I feel like we would

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be able to find her. We'd spread out, you know,

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have like a search team. That's another thing. Why know,

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like vigils or anything, or like search parties or cree.

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Speaker 2: Why why? I don't know. And also Savannah she's this

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is like out of a movie. But she's like the

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morning show host, She the Today Show? Why is she

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not like if your mom's missing. I don't know. Maybe

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they're telling her not to, but when't you want to

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talk about it on television? I don't know. Or maybe

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she's too she's probably.

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Speaker 1: Too fucked up.

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Speaker 2: She's too. I've seen her in these videos with her.

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Speaker 1: She just looks so tired, like, I mean, are you

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it's really crazy out. Yeah. Well, we're recording this on Monday.

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or we found something, They have a suspect something. Yeah, yeah, crazy.

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told me to watch that documentary the what was it called?

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Speaker 1: The okay, the Handsome Devil, Charming Killer. Yeah, okay, there's

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a couple of documentaries I told you to watch, Yes,

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did you so? Which one did you like better?

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Speaker 2: I watched The Handsome Devil one throughout. I watched all

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of that. The Lucy let Be I watched almost all

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of it, but fell asleep at the end and then

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So let's just talk about that one really quick. Yeah,

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because I had some thoughts about it. Tell me, so,

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how can I put this? Because we had some opinions

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about that woman who either jumped or that everybody said

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was sex trafficked right on the boat of the ship

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pretty Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So we're talking about a documentary on Netflix.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, these Netflix docks, they're pretty good. Yeah, and they

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just keep turning them out.

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Speaker 2: What's it called the lucy let Be Yeah, the lucy

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let Be Story, okay, or lucy let Be Trial, I

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don't know, whatever it is.

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Speaker 1: It's lucy let Be l E T B Y. So

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this was out of England. She was a young nurse

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and the story is basically that she got arrested because

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she was a nicku nurse and these babies kept dying, right,

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and they looked into it and they kind of put

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then another one, then another one, and then like bunch

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of babies. I have an article about it which I

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Speaker 2: You, but it's like twenty three or something like that

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was a bunch.

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more like thirteen, I don't know. Okay, Yeah, I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: Hey, hey, I'm gonna read I'm just gonna read you

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some of that tastle. I think it's kind of helpful

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and it lays it out. But the thing is, this

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documentary brought up why, like why she might have not

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gotten a fair trial because spoiler alert, she's in jail.

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She is, yes, oh I miss that she was found

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guilty of killing these babies.

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Speaker 2: Okay, And but you know.

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Speaker 1: You watch these documentaries and you're like, oh, that's like interesting.

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It had a little flavor of I am a killer

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or whatever that yeah, show us that I make you

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watch where you hear one side and you're like, oh

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my god, she's totally guilty. Then like more than halfway

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through it, they hear the difference, like here's how, but

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here's the defense, and here's how. This witness was maybe

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not right, and this was like right, not the truth,

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and then you're like, oh, hold on, maybe she didn't

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get a fair trial. That did not happen for me.

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I was like, no, she's still guilty. And now I've

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said it. I said it on our Facebook page and

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people were like, I don't agree. I think she's innocent.

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they have some explaining to do.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So what's her motives though?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so I think her motive one hundred percent is

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that kind of Munchausen's. I think she's super attention seeking.

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Speaker 2: There were so here. I'm going to read you this story, okay, Okay.

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Speaker 1: The neonatal nurse Lucy let Bee became notorious in the

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UK when she was found guilty of doing the unthinkable

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twenty twenty three, So this is only a couple of

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years ago. Let Be was convicted of the murder of

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seven babies and the attempted murder of an additional sixth infants.

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Speaker 2: Sheesus. A seventh charge for attempted.

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so wow, murder of seven attempted murder of seven. It

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made her one of the most prolific female serial killers

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in the UK. But in new Netflix documentary The Investigation

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of Lucy let Be seeks to shed new light on

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the trial and challenge our understanding of let Be, suggesting

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she may not be guilty at all.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know if you want to hear all

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this part, but.

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Speaker 1: Basically they talk about where she went to school, blah

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blah blah.

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Speaker 2: She's young too, like she's living with her parents, right.

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she's weird and her affect is totally off. Remember they

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come to arrest her and she's like, can.

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Speaker 2: I say goodbye to Mike? Yes, Yes, something's fucking weird

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about it. Yeah. And when they interview, when they're interviewing

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her and they're going over everything, she'd the way she answers,

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she's very It's I was like, is she on drugs

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or something? Because she's just very flat. Yes, no emotion

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at all.

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Speaker 1: No, Okay, if you did not do this, you would

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be I'm sorry, but I've watched enough true crime to

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know that if you're being falsely accused of something. You're like,

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oh my god, of course I didn't do this.

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Speaker 2: That's crazy. Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So in the in June of twenty fifteen, something

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strange was going on. Babies were mysteriously dying at the

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Countess of Chester Hospital. One of the babies was named Zoe,

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and then they che This.

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Speaker 2: Is also weird with the documentary.

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Speaker 1: They changed names and then they used AI to make

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the person to anonymize.

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Speaker 2: That's right. I saw that seeing.

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Speaker 1: This person and you're like, that's fake. They're a computer

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GM Why why did they do that? So to keep

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person who's baby died with they keep them anonymous.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that was it. Yeah, that was kind of crazy.

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Speaker 1: The mother had an extremely challenging birth and Zoe was

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taken to intensive care and put in an incubator. She

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was responding well as expected, but suddenly she collapsed. They

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also they always this.

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Speaker 2: Is like a British thing. They call it collapse grass crashing.

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call it collapse.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So, which, of course for US Americans we think

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of somebody collapsing as they're just walking along and then

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they fall to the ground. Obviously a baby in the

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nick you.

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Speaker 2: They mean like.

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Speaker 1: It's heart stops, it codes, you know. Okay, So suddenly

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she collapsed and the doctors were unable to save her,

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and she died on June twenty second. Three other babies

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died on June eighth, fourteenth, and twenty second. Keep in mind,

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this is a very this is a very small hospital, right,

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so there are not a lot of babies in the

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nick you at a time, not some big hospital. So

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from what I gathered watching the documentary, it was pretty

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fucking weird that like this many babies were dying in

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a small Okay, like one baby dying would be oh no,

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but like seven is crazy, right, So by okay, three

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other babies died. By February twenty sixteen, the death toll

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had risen to nine. By the following June, it was thirteen.

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In the twenty one years I'd been a consultant, I'd

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never seen anything like this before, recalls Gibbs. An investigation

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was opened and a pattern emerged. Let Be was the

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only nurse on duty for every suspicious death in the

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neonatal unit, every single one. This one nurse, she was

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the person on She is the only person who was

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there when every single death they had happened. Now, I

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will tell you later. The defense that's supposed to make

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us all go oh was that she was such an

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amazing nurse that they only gave her.

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Speaker 2: The sickest babies.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Oh, I don't think that that's true, having had

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the experience of having two babies in the neck, you

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one for a full month, right, This is not There

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wasn't a special nurse that was like only on the

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worst cases. And maybe somebody wants to argue with me

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about that, that's fine.

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Speaker 2: But she was wouldn't have been alone anyway.

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Speaker 1: Like, it just doesn't really makes sense to go, well,

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that's the only reason all. First of all, that many

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deaths is very unusual, even if they were very sick babies, right,

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even very sick babies don't just all die. Yeah, this

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person's watch, Okay, so that's that sort of bugs me.

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Speaker 2: Okay. The manager of.

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Speaker 1: The unit was sure of let Be's competence, but eventually

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let Be was removed from the night shift and brought

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onto the day shift. The collapses and deaths increased significantly

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during the night like the night shifts, right, but then

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started to occur during the day. The documentary alleges. On

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July third, twenty eighteen, let Be was arrested. They searched

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00:25:14,559 --> 00:25:18,759
her home and they found concerning materials, including a box

472
00:25:18,799 --> 00:25:21,319
of confidential handover sheets.

473
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,079
Speaker 2: Oh, that's her handover sheet.

474
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,279
Speaker 1: Means it's all the records of what happened, like if

475
00:25:26,319 --> 00:25:28,920
you're changing shifts, here's all the records.

476
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,559
Speaker 2: Here's what's going on with these babies.

477
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, so she stole all of these documents and took

478
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:38,279
them home of the cases where these babies had died.

479
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,319
Speaker 2: Okay, why would you do that?

480
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,519
Speaker 1: I mean, good luck trying to explain that away, and

481
00:25:44,559 --> 00:25:47,960
nobody ever does. So it's like, okay, you think that

482
00:25:48,039 --> 00:25:51,279
she's innocent, but based on fucking nothing. I'm sorry, I'm

483
00:25:51,319 --> 00:25:54,160
dropping a lot of f bombs today. Okay, so listen

484
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:59,480
to this. Let Be had over two hundred and fifty

485
00:25:59,519 --> 00:26:04,039
of them, arranged them in chronological order. When questioned by

486
00:26:04,039 --> 00:26:06,720
the police, she claimed that she brought them home by accident.

487
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,799
Speaker 2: Oh, police, they were in her closet up on a shelf. Right,

488
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,000
I think so, Yeah, she brought home by accident.

489
00:26:15,039 --> 00:26:15,640
Speaker 1: All of that.

490
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 2: She's not supposed to have them. Right.

491
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,799
Speaker 1: Then there was also claims that she was making conversation

492
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,839
and like joking around and trying to get like attention

493
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,920
from another and this other doctor and going like, oh

494
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,440
my god, do you think it's something I did? And

495
00:26:30,559 --> 00:26:35,799
the doctor was like no, You're amazing, like and the

496
00:26:35,839 --> 00:26:39,279
reaction was off there and really trying to get attention.

497
00:26:39,599 --> 00:26:42,920
I gotta watch like the rest baby's dying and like yeah.

498
00:26:43,519 --> 00:26:46,920
So after after being let out on bail on two

499
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,759
previous occasions, on November tenth, twenty twenty, let Be was

500
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,680
arrested for a third time. Twenty four hours later. She

501
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,960
was charged with eight counts of murder and ten counts

502
00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:01,640
of attempted murder. Okay, so, prosecution detailed some of the

503
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,200
ways Lucy would harm the children. They claimed she removed

504
00:27:05,279 --> 00:27:09,240
airway tubes or would overfeed to inflate the stomach, thereby

505
00:27:09,279 --> 00:27:13,680
restricting breathing. Prosecution said she was creative in her methodology

506
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,839
and changed things so as not to get caught.

507
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 2: So okay.

508
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 1: One of the things was that she gave a baby,

509
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:29,400
or more than one baby, insulin, right you've seen dateline, Yeah, yeah, yeah,

510
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,680
and for no reason the baby did not need insulin, right,

511
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:37,640
So hello, I mean right, there. Yeah, sorry, Yeah, she's

512
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,000
in charge of these babies. Okay, So with baby Zoe,

513
00:27:41,039 --> 00:27:44,039
there was a strange skin discoloration that doctors had not

514
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,319
seen before. There was also air found in a blood

515
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,720
vessel in the body and air embolism. According to the

516
00:27:50,759 --> 00:27:55,200
medical examiner doctor Evans, Zoe's deterioration was caused by a

517
00:27:55,279 --> 00:28:01,599
deliberate injection of air into the intravenous system. Okay, so

518
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,839
basically I'm gonna skip a little bit.

519
00:28:04,279 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 2: So these people are saying that she's innocent.

520
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,160
Speaker 1: People are trying to her and she's innocent. Yeah, how

521
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,240
long is she go to jail for She's for life

522
00:28:13,279 --> 00:28:16,160
jail now, Yeah, I don't I don't know. But okay,

523
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:20,440
So basically this says this, this is let be would

524
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,799
also message her colleagues about the deaths and would look

525
00:28:23,839 --> 00:28:27,799
up the parents of the deceased babies on Facebook. They

526
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,720
say that this evidence was all circumstantial.

527
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, that's but bell, Hello, that's bizarre.

528
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: Then one of the things they tried to say was

529
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:43,160
that maybe, you know, some of the other nurses just

530
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,359
didn't like her or they were like jealous of her

531
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,119
for being such a good nurse. So they tried to

532
00:28:48,839 --> 00:28:52,519
get her, like set her up. Do you really think nick,

533
00:28:52,599 --> 00:28:55,119
you nurses would just kill a bunch of babies and

534
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,279
go like, let's pin it on.

535
00:28:56,319 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 2: Let's be we don't really like her.

536
00:28:58,559 --> 00:29:03,279
Speaker 1: Insane insane not happen. Two of the babies let Be

537
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,880
was accused of harming were given insulin when they did

538
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,440
not need it, which is extremely dangerous. This was, according

539
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,079
to the medical examiner, the smoking gun to the rest

540
00:29:12,079 --> 00:29:15,079
of the case. But I'm just saying that that's not

541
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,640
the only thing. Now, there's a lot of other there's

542
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,319
a lot of reasons. So she was found guilty, and

543
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:26,000
then they're saying, oh, and then they found all these

544
00:29:26,079 --> 00:29:29,599
papers that she wrote, or she wrote a series of

545
00:29:29,599 --> 00:29:32,319
post it notes scribbled with phrases like I killed them,

546
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,920
I'm evil, I did this, I saw that. They say

547
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:41,960
the evidence, though largely circumstantial, was overwhelming. So basically they're

548
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,079
saying about that that it's because she saw a therapist

549
00:29:45,079 --> 00:29:47,799
and the therapist was like, write down your feelings. And

550
00:29:47,839 --> 00:29:52,200
then she'd also written stuff like I'm being discriminated against,

551
00:29:52,319 --> 00:29:53,519
or like right.

552
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,759
Speaker 2: Did she feel like she was being left out of

553
00:29:55,759 --> 00:29:58,839
the other with the other nurses, and things like that,

554
00:29:59,319 --> 00:30:01,759
like she felt that the other nurses weren't like welcoming

555
00:30:01,799 --> 00:30:04,200
her at first, and she first started there, and she's

556
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,960
got a little issues. She's a little kooky.

557
00:30:06,279 --> 00:30:10,519
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah, I really think it's like a Munchausen thing.

558
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,440
She thought she was going to get attention, right having

559
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:17,200
these babies die, like from other doctors, from like she

560
00:30:17,279 --> 00:30:20,000
was going to feel important, you know, right, that's what

561
00:30:20,079 --> 00:30:20,920
I think happened.

562
00:30:21,039 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but wow.

563
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,079
Speaker 1: So anyway, I didn't even print out every single thing,

564
00:30:28,119 --> 00:30:36,119
but basically they said that one of the people. Okay,

565
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,759
let's see, there was an article that casts doubt on

566
00:30:38,839 --> 00:30:42,759
the court's guilty verdict. Aviv's reporting found that the issue

567
00:30:42,799 --> 00:30:45,640
may not lie with let Be, but with the hospital itself.

568
00:30:46,039 --> 00:30:48,960
Because let Be was more qualified than most nurses, she

569
00:30:49,039 --> 00:30:51,839
was given the sickest babies. It would be odd if

570
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,519
she wasn't there when something went wrong. He notes how

571
00:30:55,559 --> 00:30:58,759
the prosecution kept pushing the idea that the babies stopped

572
00:30:58,839 --> 00:31:01,319
dying when let Be was taking off the unit. But

573
00:31:01,559 --> 00:31:04,519
when let Be was taken off the unit, McDonald explains,

574
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:08,119
it was downgraded, meaning it didn't receive as many seriously

575
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:13,839
ill babies. Oh okay, oh okay. So suddenly no babies

576
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,000
are dying because like, oh, but they didn't get sensic babies.

577
00:31:16,759 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 2: There anymore, right, right, give me a break. That good

578
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,480
try with that defense. Yeah, I mean what else, how

579
00:31:23,519 --> 00:31:25,640
are you going to defend her? I mean, it just

580
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,839
seems like a lot of evidence is against her. Yeah.

581
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: See, this evidence that's for her being innocent is basically

582
00:31:32,759 --> 00:31:37,559
like one of the experts saying that his expertise was

583
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:42,440
misinterpreted and that the like one of the cause of

584
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,039
death could have been this other thing, and maybe the

585
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,720
baby didn't die, like it wasn't murdered. But I still

586
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,279
think you need to explain why so many babies died

587
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,319
of all natural causes. I guess according to this guy

588
00:31:55,319 --> 00:31:58,039
who's like, sorry, I take back my Yes, they know

589
00:31:58,079 --> 00:31:59,799
you were going to use it against her, and I think.

590
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:06,599
Speaker 2: She could this could be exculpatory, right instead of whatever,

591
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,680
the opposite of exculpatory. Yeah, yeah, so I think she's guilty.

592
00:32:10,759 --> 00:32:13,720
She is. Yeah. I mean I was watching it and

593
00:32:13,759 --> 00:32:16,079
then they started the defense theories and then I was

594
00:32:16,119 --> 00:32:18,640
like oh, and then I fell asleep, and then Netflix

595
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:20,279
took it away.

596
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,839
Speaker 1: Because because it wasn't that convincing, right, So it didn't

597
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,119
keep you up like wait a minute, yeah, right, like

598
00:32:27,319 --> 00:32:29,839
I don't even understand what they're talking about. Yeah, but yeah,

599
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:34,079
she's I came away with it going like I mean

600
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,799
she's she's guilty. I mean maybe she didn't get a

601
00:32:37,799 --> 00:32:41,799
fair trial, and maybe there was some maybe there wasn't

602
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,559
enough like no. But one of the people was like,

603
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,319
well it was unfair because no one saw her do it.

604
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,920
Oh that guys, well because she was good at it, right,

605
00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:51,839
and she's smart.

606
00:32:52,039 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 2: And then they found things with the babies that went wrong,

607
00:32:55,359 --> 00:32:57,559
like the insolent and said, well who gave the insolent

608
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:58,400
to those babies?

609
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: Well, they couldn't prove it was her, luh Okay, So

610
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,880
I mean I don't know who else would it have been.

611
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,359
She was with there for every single baby, and she

612
00:33:06,519 --> 00:33:09,480
had all the freakin' records of all these babies that died.

613
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 2: That's crazy at her house. Yeah, that's that's stolen. Yeah,

614
00:33:13,519 --> 00:33:16,960
because when you're doing, when you have that disease, where

615
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,599
you want that attention. It's like a trophy. Like she

616
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,680
brings it home, she wants to read like read every yeah,

617
00:33:22,839 --> 00:33:27,680
revisit it. Yeah, it's crazy, so gross, really bad.

618
00:33:28,039 --> 00:33:32,319
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619
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620
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621
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622
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623
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624
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625
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Exclusions apply. Mm hmmm. As we used to say, Okay,

645
00:35:04,159 --> 00:35:09,960
I loved this movie song Sung Blue. My mother used

646
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,880
to sing that song, she used to say when I

647
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,519
was watching it, I it brought me back to my childhood.

648
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,280
She loved Neil Diamond. I didn't realize but she would

649
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,960
sing a lot of these, but she sang it song

650
00:35:20,119 --> 00:35:23,639
song Blue. That's I thought that's what it was for

651
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,280
like most of it until I got and it became

652
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:30,760
an adult. But it's a true story and it's really sad.

653
00:35:31,679 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: So your sister in law told you it was gonna

654
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,760
be sad, right, isn't that he Susan.

655
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 2: Saw, oh, oh yeah, yeah. And she's like, you're gonna

656
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,000
because I like Neil diamond songs. And she's like, you're

657
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,880
gonna like it. She goes, but I didn't expect it

658
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:45,440
to be sad. But it is based on a true story,

659
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,599
and after I watched it, I watched the real documentary

660
00:35:49,039 --> 00:35:52,440
of what the movie was based on. Oh yes, so

661
00:35:52,519 --> 00:35:56,679
I watched the real bolted thunder and light thunder and lightning,

662
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:01,159
lightning and thunder. Yes, the real character. And I saw

663
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,800
the footage of when they went on Pearl Jam and

664
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,400
Eddie Vetter was singing on stage. I mean it was

665
00:36:08,199 --> 00:36:11,360
it's it's a beautiful love story, but it's really a

666
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,400
sad story. And the ship that they kept happening to them.

667
00:36:16,039 --> 00:36:18,159
I mean, I don't want to ruin it, but it's

668
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:24,320
a story of this. You know this this he's like

669
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,559
a mechanic. He was an alcoholic. He's he was a

670
00:36:27,639 --> 00:36:32,599
ve Vietnam vet recovering alcoholic, working odd jobs like a mechanic.

671
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,599
But his dream he would do at night, would play

672
00:36:36,679 --> 00:36:40,960
these clubs and as you know, impersonators or whatever. I

673
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,199
think he wanted to do his own music. But then

674
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,320
he met this woman, this beautiful like she had a

675
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,559
beautiful voice by Kate Hudson. Played by Kate Hudson, who

676
00:36:49,639 --> 00:36:52,280
reminds me of Melissa in that movie My friend Melissa,

677
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,840
because she's from Milwaukee too. She kind of looks like her. Anyway,

678
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,800
they they meet and they become this cover band of

679
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,039
Neil Diamond and they're singing all these neil and it's

680
00:37:04,079 --> 00:37:07,639
just it's such a beautiful story. It's it's a beautiful

681
00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:10,079
love story. It but then there's a lot of tragic

682
00:37:10,199 --> 00:37:13,119
things that happen, and it did happen. And when I

683
00:37:13,159 --> 00:37:18,159
watched documentary, they had this the sun was following him

684
00:37:18,159 --> 00:37:21,440
around with the camquarder so he would capture them at home,

685
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:22,800
And a lot of the stuff you've seen in the

686
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,280
movie did happen at their home, like the two car crashes.

687
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,639
Two car crashes member the car remember she.

688
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:32,599
Speaker 1: Oh the second one?

689
00:37:32,679 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 2: Yeah?

690
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, So this is my only I don't even know

691
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,119
if it's a beef I have with it, but I've

692
00:37:39,159 --> 00:37:41,320
been dying. I read a bunch of reviews and I

693
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,519
was like, nobody is mentioning this. Okay. So the timeline

694
00:37:46,119 --> 00:37:50,000
is so dramatically different in the movie than it is

695
00:37:50,079 --> 00:37:50,440
in like.

696
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 2: What actually happened.

697
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: Yes, so they were together like nineteen years right in

698
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:54,960
real life.

699
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:56,119
Speaker 2: In real life, this.

700
00:37:56,079 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 1: Basically covers the relationship that makes it seem like it's

701
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:03,480
two years. Yeah, And they open it with him getting

702
00:38:03,519 --> 00:38:07,920
his twenty year sobriety chip, Yes, and he sings a

703
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,599
song in the AA meeting and John goes, have you

704
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,760
ever had somebody perform a song for their birthday? And

705
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,760
I was like, Nope, not in my entire like going

706
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,599
on seventeen years, I've ever seen somebody bring a guitar.

707
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 2: Right and sing a song.

708
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,679
Speaker 1: But hey, you know what I mean, Like, yeah, I

709
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,000
think that's cool whatever. I think that this was truly happened.

710
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think so. I didn't see that in

711
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,559
the doc, but they did talk about his sobriety.

712
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, so he's taking a twenty year cake and

713
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:42,679
then that's the same day he meets.

714
00:38:42,519 --> 00:38:45,079
Speaker 2: What's her name is it, Claire? Claire? Yeah, Claire?

715
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,280
Speaker 1: Okay. Then the next thing that happens is like he's

716
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,719
taking a two year cake, but he's got this big gig.

717
00:38:52,119 --> 00:38:56,079
So within one year, according to the movie, they're married

718
00:38:56,159 --> 00:38:58,840
and already kind of getting famous performing a gig. Yeah,

719
00:38:59,199 --> 00:39:03,320
and then tragedy befalls them, and then within like it

720
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,639
seems like another year, that's true on their feet and

721
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,679
he's getting another cake. They're marking it by cakes. Well,

722
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,559
the real story is like years went by in between,

723
00:39:13,639 --> 00:39:17,119
like right when they met, it was like seven years

724
00:39:17,119 --> 00:39:21,079
before they were married and being in this band and

725
00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:23,599
then it was like nine years before they got like

726
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,760
the big Big, right, it was at least seven years.

727
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 2: Before they did the Pearl Jam uh things. Yeah, then.

728
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,679
Speaker 1: After the tragedy happens, it's like nine years. It's a

729
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:42,639
long ass time that other stuff happens. Yes, yeah, but

730
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,199
in the movie then they're together for another long time

731
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,079
before more bad stuff happens. But I was like, wow,

732
00:39:49,199 --> 00:39:51,400
they really just shrunk that to two years they did.

733
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,119
They were together almost twenty.

734
00:39:53,079 --> 00:39:55,639
Speaker 2: Right, And I think maybe because they didn't want to

735
00:39:55,639 --> 00:39:58,159
age them, you know, right, you know, and they're just

736
00:39:58,199 --> 00:40:02,559
they're making a movie. And but in the documentary, they

737
00:40:03,039 --> 00:40:05,559
it was a little different, like they they were playing

738
00:40:05,599 --> 00:40:09,079
these gigs and they were getting popular again, and I

739
00:40:09,119 --> 00:40:10,840
don't know, do we want to I mean we might

740
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,519
have a little spoiler alerts.

741
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, okay, spoiler alerts.

742
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 2: Spoiler yes. So basically, the way that he in the

743
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,800
movie is the way that they did, Like they play

744
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,079
this big gig, he hits his head and then they

745
00:40:25,079 --> 00:40:28,280
go to go meet him Neil Diamond at the custard shop.

746
00:40:29,159 --> 00:40:31,920
It's not exactly what happened. They did play this gig

747
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,480
or whatever. But then a couple weeks like time goes by,

748
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,599
he has his heart issue, he goes he's in the hospital,

749
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,840
then he gets his heart fixed, then they go back

750
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,519
out on tour again. He did hit his head and

751
00:40:43,559 --> 00:40:47,760
I don't think told anybody, and he died from complications

752
00:40:47,599 --> 00:40:50,639
of bleeding on the brain. He didn't die in the

753
00:40:50,679 --> 00:40:53,079
car on the way to meet Neil Damon, right, right.

754
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,000
But they did show the real custard shop, and they

755
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,360
did interview people that worked in the customer and they

756
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:00,840
do say that Neil Diamond, every time he plays he

757
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,880
comes by gets a custard, which immediately made me want

758
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,320
to crave custom Oh my god.

759
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: Which is making me kind of want custard.

760
00:41:09,079 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 2: Where do we get custard around here? Like? Who sells

761
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,840
custard anymore? That is so funny.

762
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 1: I was literally gonna go and now I want custard.

763
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:19,639
Speaker 2: I was when I was watching the movie, I was

764
00:41:19,679 --> 00:41:21,880
craving custard. Yeah, it was really good.

765
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,679
Speaker 1: My other beef with it, which and it's it's fun

766
00:41:25,679 --> 00:41:28,000
to watch movies with John because he knows me so well.

767
00:41:28,519 --> 00:41:31,079
So do you remember the movie that was I don't know,

768
00:41:31,199 --> 00:41:33,920
came out like twenty years ago. Ai, do you hear

769
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,119
that movie? It was a Steven Spielberg movie.

770
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 2: Really terrible. Yeah, I didn't see it.

771
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: Had all these false endings. So you're you're watching the

772
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,639
movie and then you're like, okay, I guess we're drawing

773
00:41:43,639 --> 00:41:46,400
to a close. And then they're like two thousand years

774
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,440
later under the sea, and then there's another whole scene

775
00:41:49,679 --> 00:41:52,679
and then you're like, okay, well, now aliens are like

776
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,599
inhabiting on Earth, so now this is how they're going

777
00:41:55,639 --> 00:41:58,239
to go out. And then they're like nope, another two

778
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:03,280
million years later this happens, and you're like okay. So

779
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:07,119
in this movie, when you feel okay, when she's getting

780
00:42:07,119 --> 00:42:11,360
her emotional when she's back and they have this they

781
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:16,159
play this gig at the restaurant, right, and she's back

782
00:42:16,199 --> 00:42:18,719
at and she's playing and you're like okay, and I

783
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,880
kept going I go credits and John goes, yeah, I

784
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,719
mean it's got to be right. They wrapped it up

785
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,119
like it's a comeback story, and she's back and then

786
00:42:26,519 --> 00:42:29,719
it's like the next day. They don't chirn that, but

787
00:42:30,199 --> 00:42:32,480
now it's the next day and it's a totally different

788
00:42:32,519 --> 00:42:36,280
scene and you're like okay, and then something else happens,

789
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,920
and then it's like a year later, and then I

790
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,079
would just kept going, oh my god, now I have

791
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:43,559
no sense of the timing of this movie when it's

792
00:42:43,559 --> 00:42:43,960
going to end.

793
00:42:44,159 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 2: And they're like, now.

794
00:42:45,199 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 1: He's like fixing someone's car, and yeah, there's a sub

795
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:48,960
story with the daughter.

796
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,039
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Yes, I know. Yeah. You

797
00:42:52,119 --> 00:42:54,360
kept thinking like, Okay, it's gonna be done, it's gonna

798
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,800
be done. And now now now that car runs into

799
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,119
the house, I'm like, what the fuck it happened again?

800
00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:02,920
I was like what that? And it did? And yeah.

801
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,320
I then I had to watch the documentary because I

802
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,960
want to watch it. Yeah, it's on YouTube. We have

803
00:43:08,039 --> 00:43:10,360
to find it, okay, and you'll find you can find it.

804
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,599
Just it's called song Sung Blue, where my mom says,

805
00:43:13,679 --> 00:43:17,079
song song Blue. It's on YouTube, but you can find it. Yeah.

806
00:43:17,119 --> 00:43:17,960
It's like an hour and.

807
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 1: Isn't Kate Hudson. Doesn't she have such a good voice.

808
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 2: She's amazing. She was so great. And that she singer,

809
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,719
I don't know, but I read that she loves to sing,

810
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,719
like that's her true, that's what she likes to do.

811
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,679
But she put on an album she did yeah like

812
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,719
wow while ago wow. Yeah, and he did a great

813
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:37,840
job so good.

814
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,760
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackman, Yes, also an amazing voice.

815
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,119
Speaker 2: They were so and then I watched him on Kelly

816
00:43:44,159 --> 00:43:47,440
Clarkson together, and then I watched a clip of him

817
00:43:47,519 --> 00:43:51,039
singing with the real Clayer in real life. They had

818
00:43:51,039 --> 00:43:53,079
her on the on the red carpet at the premiere

819
00:43:53,079 --> 00:43:54,800
of the movie. They interviewed her.

820
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: That almost made me cry when I read that.

821
00:43:56,679 --> 00:43:58,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, they interviewed, and she's like, they did such a

822
00:43:58,599 --> 00:44:01,840
good job. They captured everything. One saying in the documentary

823
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,119
that they didn't show in the movie is after he

824
00:44:04,199 --> 00:44:08,039
passed away, she's sitting in the living room and her

825
00:44:08,119 --> 00:44:11,199
daughter goes, Mom, you gotta like it was the day

826
00:44:11,199 --> 00:44:13,760
of the funeral. She's like, she's like, you gotta this

827
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,239
big box came in the mail. She opens it up.

828
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:21,320
It's a beautiful classic Gibson guitar with a beautiful note

829
00:44:21,559 --> 00:44:25,360
from Eddie Vedder like how much he touched his life.

830
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,280
Like he was like, you, guys, I've been following your

831
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,639
you know your story, and it was she read this

832
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,960
beautiful letter from Eddie Vedder. They should have put that

833
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,039
in the movie. That was so touching. That was the

834
00:44:37,039 --> 00:44:38,239
best part of the documentary.

835
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I wonder what's happened to the kids.

836
00:44:43,519 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 2: They're friends, The kids are friends. They became like a

837
00:44:46,119 --> 00:44:49,679
like a happy, blended family. Yeah. Yeah, they called him Papa,

838
00:44:50,119 --> 00:44:52,880
you know. They they were just like a little sweet family.

839
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:58,199
Speaker 1: Because if the movie had followed what really happened, those

840
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,840
kids would have aged twenty years oh yeah times. Yeah,

841
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:02,679
it would have known each other like a long time,

842
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,920
right right, because it was really funny. There's a scene

843
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:09,239
early on where the one daughter, the well Claire's daughter,

844
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,719
she's dragging her to a rehearsal and she's like yeah

845
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,559
and this girl's like sixteen yeah, and she's like yeah,

846
00:45:16,639 --> 00:45:19,039
and his daughter is going to be there, and she's like,

847
00:45:19,119 --> 00:45:21,880
are you fucking kidding me? Is this like a play date?

848
00:45:22,159 --> 00:45:25,159
Speaker 2: Right on? Right? Right? But then they do end up bonding, Yeah,

849
00:45:25,199 --> 00:45:28,400
they did. They bonded. Yeah. Yeah. In the documentary you

850
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,760
don't really see that because it was all taking place

851
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,920
in one period of time when the kids were still

852
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,679
kind of young. But there's like arguing and you know,

853
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,639
and he's in his underwear all the time, like Hugh

854
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,679
Jackman was. But yeah, it's just I just love Neil

855
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,639
diamond songs. I just was like, oh my gosh, reminds

856
00:45:45,679 --> 00:45:46,519
me of my childhood.

857
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: He surprised at how many Neil Diamond songs you know.

858
00:45:52,119 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. I was like, oh my god, I

859
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,159
don't know the names. But then when they're like, let's

860
00:45:57,199 --> 00:45:59,079
play this song, and then they started singing, and I go,

861
00:45:59,159 --> 00:45:59,960
I love that song.

862
00:46:00,119 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: She's Got a Way to movie.

863
00:46:02,199 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 2: I love that song.

864
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, and uh yeah, sweet car Line. It was a

865
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:10,199
good movie.

866
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 2: It was a good movie. I love those kind of movies.

867
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: What else should I watch? What other movies are?

868
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:15,639
Speaker 2: Okay?

869
00:46:15,679 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: Wait, I have access to all the movies.

870
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:22,760
Speaker 2: Have you seen housemaid or whatever it's called with those

871
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:27,480
two blondie girls. What's their names? Sydney Sweeney's in it.

872
00:46:27,559 --> 00:46:30,639
But then there's the other one she played.

873
00:46:30,599 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 1: Like house bunnies house.

874
00:46:32,119 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 2: It's called Housemaids. Okay, it's kind of like a thriller.

875
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,599
It's on Amazon. It was in a theater. Oh, that's

876
00:46:37,599 --> 00:46:42,599
on Amazon. Also, Smarty Supreme is on Amazon. Did you

877
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,960
like that? I didn't. Sonny liked it. I didn't watch

878
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,199
it yet. Oh my god. I watched the Olympics with

879
00:46:47,199 --> 00:46:50,679
Sonny the other night for like two hours. You did?

880
00:46:51,079 --> 00:46:53,760
But then he started showing me extreme red bull videos

881
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,199
on YouTube. So then we started like meandering into that,

882
00:46:57,559 --> 00:46:59,800
you know, just all these like extreme sports and stuff.

883
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:04,159
It was fun. Had ribs hung out. That's fun. It

884
00:47:04,199 --> 00:47:07,400
was fun. Didn't Italia come back at all? No? No,

885
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:08,800
she's back at school.

886
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's doing with her post breakup. She's doing breakup era.

887
00:47:13,119 --> 00:47:18,199
Speaker 2: She's doing good. She's doing good. She's strong's not like me.

888
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:20,800
She's having fun with her friends.

889
00:47:22,039 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I should tell you. I think you'll be interested.

890
00:47:27,039 --> 00:47:28,679
There's a new season of Love is Blind.

891
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, yeah, have is it good? Oh,

892
00:47:32,039 --> 00:47:34,679
I'm all, I'm through. Okay, when you're listening to this

893
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:35,119
right now?

894
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,599
Speaker 1: Three more episodes are out because I've I've watched the

895
00:47:37,639 --> 00:47:40,840
first six Okay, I'm in. I love it. I'm covering

896
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:44,159
it on rose Pricks but on our Patreon for now, okay,

897
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,960
and we'll release it into regular episodes in like a

898
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,719
few weeks, maybe like right when it's done.

899
00:47:51,039 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 2: But yeah, so I'm like, is there any nut job notes? Oh? Yeah, okay, good, Yeah,

900
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:58,079
it's all I want to know.

901
00:47:59,039 --> 00:48:03,280
Speaker 1: There's only one like very normal couple that will probably

902
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,760
get married. Okay, the rest of them are all like

903
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,559
KOOKI Okay.

904
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,039
Speaker 2: I love that. You know what else, I started watching

905
00:48:11,079 --> 00:48:16,880
his Love Story on Hulu FX. It's on Hulu and

906
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:21,480
it's about JFK. Junior and Carolyn Bassett. Oh and I'm

907
00:48:21,559 --> 00:48:24,880
like on episode two and it's really good. It's the

908
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:29,159
same guy that did you know the Monica Lewinsky story.

909
00:48:29,519 --> 00:48:32,719
Oh you know he does like American story like he

910
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,800
does all these shows. Yeah, I did the monologue wins

911
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,360
and then what else do you clinton that was part

912
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,559
of that anyway? Yeah, it's called love Story and it's

913
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,559
really the guy is a fucking hotterish hot as shit,

914
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,159
and he's just like an unknown actor playing JFK. Junior.

915
00:48:48,519 --> 00:48:51,880
Oh yeah, he's a good looking guy. But it's it

916
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:56,960
seems pretty good. I like it, okay. And yeah, there's

917
00:48:57,000 --> 00:49:00,840
a documentary on Paramount Plus I saw after the one

918
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,119
that you told me to watch called Predators, and it's

919
00:49:04,159 --> 00:49:09,320
about behind the scenes of catching the Predator with Chris Hansen,

920
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,480
but not behind more about the stories of what happened

921
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:18,000
to these guys. Okay, it's called Predator on Paramount Plus.

922
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:19,800
On Paramount Plus and they.

923
00:49:20,039 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: Start did the did you just did it just start

924
00:49:22,599 --> 00:49:23,599
right after you finished?

925
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:25,559
Speaker 2: It was like if after I watched that one, it

926
00:49:25,639 --> 00:49:27,320
was like, if you like this, you like you know

927
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,440
these other ones. It's an MTV doc but it's like

928
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,360
an hour and a half two hours, and it interviews

929
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,079
Chris Hansen at the end, like kind of holding him

930
00:49:36,079 --> 00:49:39,400
accountable for some things that happened to these guys after

931
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:44,199
they were caught fucking interesting shit. Oh my god, I

932
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,480
want to I want to watch the ship watching. Yeah, yeah,

933
00:49:47,639 --> 00:49:53,559
you and Bob. You forgot about it, didn't you. I

934
00:49:53,679 --> 00:49:55,079
mean I was just.

935
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,599
Speaker 1: Starting to feel like, oh, I feel a little bit

936
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like myself again, even though I haven't slept, And now

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I'm like, oh, yeah, I'm going to go home and

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that dog is going to be on top of me.

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The good news is I haven't. This whole time, I

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keep checking my phone because I keep expecting John to

941
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be like, oh my gosh, Bob is freaking out without you.

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But we okay, So we left this morning. We were

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only gone for like fifteen minutes, to be fair. Yeah,

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and the kids were home, but they were in their

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bedrooms and Bob didn't go in their rooms to hang

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with them, and we were genuinely like, I wonder what

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he's going to do with all of us out of

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the house, like just alone in our bedroom. He didn't

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shut the door because I was like, I don't want

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to try to close him into a room because I

951
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don't want to get him upset. And also, since the

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kids are home, if he wants to wander down the

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hall hang with them, he can.

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Speaker 2: But when we got home, I was like, oh my god,

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is he going to shit in the house, like because

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he hadn't pooped because it's been raining, I didn't know.

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Speaker 1: But I went down to Sadie's room. I was like,

958
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did Bob come in here and hang out? And she goes, no,

959
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he like poked his head in and then left, and

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Xander same thing, and he hadn't touched anything. I mean

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we were only gone for like fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 2: See, I think, Stephanie, I think in a like next week,

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I think he's gonna relax and he's gonna get comfortable.

964
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I just think this is a temporary thing with you.

965
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I really do. You might need to have just let

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him sleep on the bed with you.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know, because well where we left off

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the story, I think on Tuesday I was saying I

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don't know how tonight will go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not.

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Speaker 1: We're not going to be able to get him. I mean, listen,

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anything could happened. Maybe he'll sleep in his create tonight.

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Speaker 2: He won't.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's just not going to because he's addicted

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to me. Yeah, he has a problem. He needs a meeting.

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Speaker 2: But you know, will we be able.

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Speaker 1: To get him to eventually sleep in the crate or

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will I be able to get him to sleep in

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his bed? Maybe? But like you said, he's also sick,

980
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so he's not feeling well. He's insecure. He just adjusting

981
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to living in our house. Yeah, he You know, when

982
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,800
I read about the thing about the panic, it's like

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that the cleanness is coming from your dog being in

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shock and just clinging onto the rescuer. You know, he

985
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has nothing that he knows, even the shelter.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure he.

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Speaker 1: Hated it, but at least it was like yeah every

988
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,039
day like that's I mean, it was probably terrible, don't

989
00:52:30,079 --> 00:52:32,159
get me wrong. But now he just gets in a

990
00:52:32,199 --> 00:52:34,880
car with somebody. He's in a totally random house with

991
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,480
totally random people. He has no idea his place in

992
00:52:38,519 --> 00:52:41,519
the world. He's not feeling well. He had surgery the

993
00:52:41,599 --> 00:52:46,480
day before. Like this is understandable, and this is exactly

994
00:52:47,039 --> 00:52:50,679
probably going to get better, but you should here are

995
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things you should be doing to make sure he doesn't get.

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Speaker 2: Really bad habits. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I just know that people are listening in Judd

998
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and being like, what you let him sleep in your bed?

999
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But it's sort of like when you have a new

1000
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,920
baby and you're like, fuck it, I'm there sleeping in

1001
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the bed because you're like, I got to sleep.

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Speaker 2: I tried.

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Speaker 1: I mean, John and I did that a couple of nights.

1004
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Elbie slept on John's chest the entire night and he

1005
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got no sleep because so that I could sleep, because

1006
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the only way she would not sleep in her bacinette, right,

1007
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,800
even though we put in nice padding, it was basically

1008
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like a crate for her. And she was like, hell no,

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I don't want to I'm not being by myself. I

1010
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want to be touched. I want to tell Yeah, And

1011
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so we were like, we need to sleep. We put

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00:53:38,639 --> 00:53:40,920
her in bed, and that was me last night. I

1013
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,639
was like I have to sleep, yes, Like I'm sorry,

1014
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:47,719
I can't. I don't have the emotional wherewithal to train.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't blame you, done, I would

1016
00:53:50,679 --> 00:53:52,920
have done the same thing. I really would.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like the tenth time, he just was like, no,

1018
00:53:56,199 --> 00:53:57,039
just got up and truck.

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00:53:57,199 --> 00:53:58,519
Speaker 2: He wants to be near you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I couldn't sleep.

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Speaker 2: No, you didn't.

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Speaker 1: Let So Sadie and Xander never slept in our bed,

1023
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,519
not one time. Yeah, neither is Sunny or in Italia,

1024
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because we couldn't because there were two of them. So

1025
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I guess we just dealt with it and they stayed

1026
00:54:16,199 --> 00:54:18,000
in their stayed in there, and then they went in

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cribs and then that's that was it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Same with LB. We were kind of suckers because

1029
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,440
we had one baby and she was screaming all the

1030
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:29,000
time the beginning, right. Yeah. And also I think the

1031
00:54:29,039 --> 00:54:31,519
twins kind of comforted each other in the saint knowing

1032
00:54:31,519 --> 00:54:33,920
that they were in the same room. They seemed okay,

1033
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,079
like from the get go. They were just in their cribs.

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Speaker 1: We co slept them in a did you co sleep yours? Yeah,

1035
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,639
we did, because they co slept them a little bit

1036
00:54:42,679 --> 00:54:44,920
in the hospital. So we put them in a crib

1037
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together and it worked.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, No, they were like next to

1039
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each other, but they're in their own their own cribs,

1040
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and I was basically in the room all the time

1041
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:58,719
with them. Anyway, you know, breastfeeding and shit the beginning

1042
00:54:59,039 --> 00:55:01,280
for the first two weeks, for the first two weeks,

1043
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and then you know feeding every you know, as soon

1044
00:55:04,119 --> 00:55:06,519
as you're done with one and the other one's hungry. I mean,

1045
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the twin thing was just like they never ended on.

1046
00:55:09,119 --> 00:55:10,840
And I had that horrible but pump.

1047
00:55:11,599 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, like just constantly trying to get milk out and

1048
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:16,719
it was not happening.

1049
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:20,199
Speaker 2: I had an industrial pump yeah yeah, the hospital. We

1050
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:21,360
rented it from the hospital.

1051
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Speaker 1: Right it didn't work, would still get like a Nike

1052
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,840
say pump amount of like milk, right, like a half

1053
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,000
a Niquil cup, and I would.

1054
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Speaker 2: Walk into the hospital with it when they were in

1055
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the nicu.

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Speaker 1: I was trying to pump at home, and they'd look

1057
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:40,400
at it like, oh, we don't really need this, but

1058
00:55:40,599 --> 00:55:47,159
thank you. Can I tell you that story that and

1059
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then we'll wrap. But that my friend I wrote about

1060
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this in one of the books. But my friend was

1061
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like I she had a baby around the same time,

1062
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and she was like, I'm like a milk machine. I'm

1063
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,519
happy to give you like pump milk and give you

1064
00:56:01,679 --> 00:56:03,719
milk if you feed it to them in the nicke

1065
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:07,119
you and I broached that to the nurses in the

1066
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NICU and they're like, yeah, no, we don't allow that,

1067
00:56:11,159 --> 00:56:13,360
and I was like why it was basically they're like,

1068
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:17,039
you can't just bring in street milk, right right, we

1069
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got to have that like tested, like we're responsible for it. Yeah, yeah,

1070
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I guess it was Lucy let Be. She would have

1071
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been like heally fine, yeah, and then been like, I

1072
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don't know. I guess it was something in the right

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Speaker 1: Leslie with the coughing Erin's a dirty Sanchez, Sandra.

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Speaker 2: Get up.

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Speaker 1: Stephanie is a stingering Christie to drop and Kelsey.

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Speaker 2: She's between two ferns. Yep, all right, thanks everybody, love

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you your parent, don't f it up. Let Angle