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Speaker 2: Thank you. So is it true that nothing ever happens?

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Speaker 3: I don't know anymore. It seems like Donald Trump made

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things happen for an hour one or two hours of

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time and now there's nothing ever happens again.

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Speaker 1: Do you think there's anything hiding in the background that

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we you know, being done in the background that we

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just don't know about, or you know, is that cope

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as the as the kids like to say today.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot. Yeah, I think there's a lot, a

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lot being done in the background, that's for sure. I'm

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getting word from some of my Actually you're in the chat,

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you know, I'm getting word from one of my friends

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that a guy who works in the Air Force just

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got called up to be ready for anything in case

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this are on negotiation falls through. Just sounds like there's

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a lot going on in the background or not allowed

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to talk about.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, do you think that obviously there are

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competing factions in our government? I mean when I look

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at like I was mentioning today that maybe we can

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talk about this is Ukraine tried to assassinate Putin today.

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Apparently he was in a helicopter flying to the course

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Greege and they say owns that they sent drones at

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the helicopter and they were able to shoot them all down,

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but you know, some got pretty close. And one thing

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that I know about Russia, is that Putin is not

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Putin's not a hardliner compared to some of the people

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in that government. There are people in that government who

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if they decide to and this would be very Russian historically,

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I mean historically you've seen this. Putin will get a

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bullet and they'll tell us that you know, Putin had

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a heart attack and he died, and a hard line

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or will take over.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm wondering what the I don't understand the point

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of assassinating Putin. I never have. Do they imagine that

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would that would wind down the war, the need, the

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desire for war.

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Speaker 1: No, My opinion is is that that the people who

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are doing the people who are running this are the EU,

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City of London, World Economic Forum and certain ethnic groups

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within that are still within our government and still have

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power in the United States. So this is what they want.

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They want this war to go on. They want they

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I think they know that if Putin, if they were

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to kill Putin, the hardliners in Russia will just accelerate

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this and don't I don't think they care who wins this.

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They just want these people to kill each other's basically,

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that's what they've been saying. Since the beginning of this war.

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I have a book around here who has some quotes

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that were floating around in the beginning, and one of

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them was, I mean, it's like, this is great. You know,

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we can just basically use Ukrainians to take out Russians.

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And you know, that's the whole purpose of this war is,

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in my opinion and in the opinion of many others,

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is to get them to kill each other.

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Speaker 2: The thing that.

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Speaker 3: They're you're saying, the purpose of the war as it's

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being waged from the perspective of the groups you just named.

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Speaker 1: Yes, is to get is to escalate this. Now, whether

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they want a nuclear they want they want one side

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or the other to go nuclear, which would probably be Russia,

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that is to be that that you can only speculate

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upon that. But I mean, I think these people are

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insane enough that they would they would see that as

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some kind of win, as some kind of oh, look,

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we've proved the Russians are they're so bloodthirsty that they

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need to be destroyed. And they also get to kill

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some Christians in Ukraine at the same time, So I mean,

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why not.

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Speaker 3: So I'm with you there, and I'll tell you something

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in doing TL we cover the news, and I have

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determined and determined long ago that the whole subject of

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the the who I don't even know what are we

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calling it? The war in Ukraine? What are we calling it?

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What's the official name for? What? Were actually the military

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action that Russia's performing in Ukraine.

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Speaker 2: Special military operations and that kind of ship.

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Speaker 3: It's not news. And because of that I kind of

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sat back on it and haven't paid too much attention

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until the connection was made for me that from from

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where I see the whole the coalition of the willing

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thing was the thing that kind of perked my eyes

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back up because it was so stupid of an idea.

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It could never have worked, the idea that people were

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riding with that somehow now the United States would distance

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itself from this conflict and its client states, the EU

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and France and maybe Germany would pick it up and

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deal with it. It was the stupidest thing I'd ever heard,

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and I determined that it was none of it was

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all bluster because all three of the people involved in that,

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that being Stormer and Macron and is it Schultz, well

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they all, I mean, the whole government in Germany has

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terrible terrible support. All of them are in dramatic lows

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in their public support. And my view of the continuation

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of this war, especially in that latter phase when Trump

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came in and these quote negotiations began, was that all

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of the bluster was just to preserve their domestic support

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in their individual various countries. So I never actually thought

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about the external reasoning for why the war would need

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to continue. Now you tell me it's because they want

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the two groups to to kill one another. And forgive

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me if this is something you've covered on your show

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a lot, But seriously, I almost religiously avoid this type

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of news because I don't find it so uninteresting. But

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now I'm interested because we're talking about it. What is

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the external reasoning beyond them killing one another? What is

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the like? Where does the money lead to? What's the

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who benefits? I mean, who benefits from this?

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Speaker 1: Okay, so after the fall of the Soviet Union? Are

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you how's your nineteen nineties Russian history?

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Speaker 3: I have no knowledge, But for again, you know what

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your listeners have been listening to, so you can spare

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them whatever details you've said. Oh and obviously I'll follow along.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll just do a quick outline. Basically, all these

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oligarchs took over, These oligarchs were behold into the West.

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Speaker 2: These most of.

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Speaker 1: These oligarchs were also so just also so happened to

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be part of an ethnic an ethnic group, and they

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sought to bleed Russia dry. When you say yeah, yes,

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I'm talking about I'm definitely talking about the Qataris. So

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did you get your check yet?

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Speaker 3: Did you check them in yet? Because mine's not hasn't

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shown up yet.

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Speaker 1: I see it in my account for like two weeks

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now and it hasn't cleared yet.

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Speaker 2: So I'm I'm.

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Speaker 1: Wondering, just like an Arab Yeah, yeah, it's real bad.

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But the they basically sought to destroy the country.

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Speaker 2: And like one of the.

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Speaker 1: One of the figures that Scott Horton talks about all

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the time is like the the average life span of

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a male dropped by twelve years because it was it

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was a time when we couldn't get good food, it

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was dangerous in the country, and basically it had become

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it was really like a one of those colonies where

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everything that you have that it's like like a lot

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of people would describe an African nation when Westerners go

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in there, and they just start raping the resources and

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pulling them all out of the pulling them all out.

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Speaker 2: Of the country.

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Speaker 1: And you just pay a very very small group that

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has power within the country to allow you to do this.

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But they know that they're going to It's pretty much

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what happened. So Putin. Putin comes in and he puts

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a stop to that. There's actually video footage of him

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going into these large companies and going this is what

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you're going to do now, this is I mean like

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forcefully telling them everything has changed and now you're working

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for your country again. And they don't like that because

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that means they lost. That means that somebody defeated them,

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and they've been trying to basically destroy him and he's

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been literally Hitler or the second Hitler whatever ever since,

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So you know they Another thing is is they have

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taken over Ukraine. Ukraine is very resource rich black soil.

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Also accusations, I'm not going to say of vast human trafficking,

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hearing numbers that you know, blonde hair, blue eyed slaves

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go for fifty to one hundred thousand on the open market,

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and you know they had a good thing going Barisma

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American Americans sending their kids over there to have no

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show jobs and to collect you one hundred thousand dollars

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a month, and will putin invading and you know, and

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while they're doing this, they're killing ethnic Russians who live

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in the east of the in the east of the

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country and putin you know, putting out a lot more

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self control than I did. That's when he decided to

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go in there and put a stop to this. But

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I think he from the beginning thought that this was

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going to be sort of a cake walk. I don't

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think he counted on basically all of Europe supporting turning

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around to support Ukraine, including the United States, including the

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United States operators who have gone over there and died

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fighting against against Russians. There's another theory that doctor Matthew

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Rafael Johnson has has put out Odessa has the city

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of Odessa place in that area, has more Katari mosques

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than any than like all of Guitar put together.

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Speaker 2: You understand what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Of course, yes, I've been around the block people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you understand what I'm saying. Let's let the listener

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understand and that he they were looking for another place

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in the world to call their own and doctor doctor

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THRFL Johnson calls it the new Kataria. Let's call it

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that it would be the new Kataria. And they didn't

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think they thought that this would be you know, if

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Putin did this, that it would be easy to defeed him.

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And this thing's been going on for a while now

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and I think they may have been given up on

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the New Kataria, but who knows if, but they're I

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think they're very happy to see Christians on one side

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killing Christians on another side. And you know, that's probably

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over a million total from both sides. And I think

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they what they think is is if they escalate, if

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this can be escalated, if they can put if they

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can you know, assassinate Putin, then the you know, the

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hardliners are going to do something to initiate that the

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world will not be able to put up with and

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they'll have to put a stop to this, and then

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they can get what they want again. They get a

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weaker Russia, which is what they want so that they

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can go in there and continue the raping that they

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started in the nineteen nineties. And they also get they

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also get Ukraine, which you know, the only thing that

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was standing in the way of having Ukraine was the

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fact that there was all these ethnic Russians that were

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in there, and that Putin had controlled certain ports within

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the country. So that's what that's how I see this

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is my interpretation. If someone asked me to sit down

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and give them my explanation as to what's happening and

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why this is happening and the forces behind it, then

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you know, that's that's what I would say, and that's

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what makes it That's what makes it interesting to me.

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That's why I I see it as news because it

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could also because this is something that I think could

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very easily escalate to I'm not saying intercontinental ballistics. I'm

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talking about, you know, some localized nuclear nuclear targets to

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basically say back the hell off. And I don't think

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that these people will back the hell off. I think

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that they would push it as far as they can,

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and if those nukes were to drop, then you would

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have the whole world, as they've done before, to try

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and destroy, to basically destroy one country, would come together

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and seek to destroy Russia, you know, forever.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: I'm not under the impression that Donald Trump's actually interested

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in ending the war but I wonder what your opinion

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is on why he's taken such a hostile stance towards

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Zolensky and that regime. Is he out of step with

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this plan or is this part of the plan.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I have a tendency to what I

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think is happening. Is the same thing that's happening in

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Russia and happening in a lot of other different countries.

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Is that you have differing elite factions who are struggling

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to get him to do what they want. Some weeks,

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it seems like the faction that is more pro technology

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and pro America and pro and I'm not saying pro

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America because they love Americans, but they love what they

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get when America is prosperous on his own. These are

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I think those people are trying to get him to,

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you know, tell net and Yahoo to go screw himself,

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and to try to get him to disconnect from Ukraine

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and their enemy. This group's enemy seems to be China,

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so to more do like a Pacific pivot, so that

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you're you're looking over there. And then you have the

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old ethnic factions that are wanting to have war with Iran,

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and you know, you know the politicians that they own

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your Lindsey Graham's and you're Tom Cotton's people like that,

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and then you have you know, there's another faction that

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is I think is just completely technology based, and they

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just they're like, look, we just want the rains taken off.

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We don't care about Israel. We actually do business in Israel.

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China we'd like to have a better relationship with because

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we do make a lot of money there. And I

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think those guys are they actually get some wins here

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along the way. I think that's a lot of what

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Doge was. But I also think Doze was the previous

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group or the first group I talked about too. And

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what I would think is if Donald Trump didn't have

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all of these warring factors. People like to call Donald

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Trump a Qatarist.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, which I waiver on yeah, And I don't

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think that he is.

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Speaker 1: I think he is somebody who likes Qatar. He likes Qatar, existing,

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he likes Qatar.

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Speaker 3: He even likes the Katardnik Party, but he he doesn't

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like who's the main party the main which is what

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I wonder, how is that guy even still in power?

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, if you I think the way he's

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in power is one he has a you know, he

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has the military behind him, and he probably probably more

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than the military, he probably has this intelligence forces behind him.

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But I think that he also has scared enough of

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his you know, basically, there's this whole history of fear

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mongering that goes back in more than two thousand years,

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but you know, especially the last two thousand years of

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everybody wants to kill us, everybody every everybody's jealous of

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us and wants to kill us, and you know, and

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they hate us and you know, we're special boys and

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everything like that.

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Speaker 3: And classic Katari paranoia narcissism.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And so I think that, you know, he has

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a lot of those people on his side, but there's

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also people in Qatar who don't like him and they

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want him gone. And there's people in this country. There's

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Kataris in this country who want him gone, and there's

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Guitaris in this country who will do anything to support him. So,

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you know, this is a lot more complicated than a

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lot of the a lot of the people on Twitter

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who if you disagree with him, they run around just

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telling you say Amphibian Katari. Yeah, Amphibians, they tell you

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you're Katari. This is a lot more. There's a lot

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more at play here. So it makes it very easy

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to just run around as anyone who disagrees with you,

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you just call him a Katari.

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Speaker 3: You know, Mexicans can have a low IQ on occasion,

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so sometimes you.

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Speaker 1: Think, yeah, well yeah, so push them along. You not

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only have Katar, you not only have their their occupation

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of Washington, d C. And they're insane lobby here, but

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you also have they control the city of London, and

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they have a lot of throughout the EU. They have

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a lot of a lot of influence. I'm not saying

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they have all the influence. I'm saying that they control

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a lot of influence because they control a lot of wealth.

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And I also think they have a lot of information

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on people.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, I don't like the cosmic Qatariism certainly you

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see crop up in the Amphibians, but yeah, it certainly

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is one of the major power factions because of its

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its capital, its ability to move capital.

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Speaker 1: Well, also it's information. I mean, you know, we had

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an ethnic Katari in this country, that was running a

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you know, a child a child sex traffic ring. You

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know who you know apparently killed himself in prison, killed

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himself into Manhattan.

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Speaker 3: Well that's what Dan Bongino says, and so that's what

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I believe.

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Speaker 2: He says that he just killed himself, right, just committed suicide.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the very and of course the very trustworthy

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as pattack. What's the guy's name. I don't even remember

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the guy's name. I honestly don't remember that. Yeah, sure

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that that's probably not his name, the Motel Magnet. It's absurd.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this is so convoluted, which is why

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you know, I've taken to saying this isn't gonna You

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can't fix this. The only thing you can do is

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you you can hope that in some this is all

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coming down one of these days. Now, you know, as

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Thomas says, it could be one hundred hundred and fifty

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years from now. This could have gone for another fifty years.

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There were people who were saying Rome was falling one

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hundred to one hundred and fifty years before it fell,

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and it kept going and kept going, right, Yeah, and

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you know, so this is going to fall one day.

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But it's not going to be tomorrow, and that means

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you have to survive, and that means you also have

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to provide for the people, and you have to set

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up the people who come after you. So you want

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things to be at least a little bit better, which

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is why my big concentration is listening. It's people like

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Tom Luwongo who talks about things that are improving financially

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so that you can gather wealth to yourself, help people

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that you know, gather wealth to themselves so that they

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can survive this and we can go into the future,

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you know, equipped what the things we will need when things

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get bad, and they will get bad. I mean, I

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honestly think that there is there will be civil war

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in the future in this country. I don't think it's

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going to be this vast civil war where the whole

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country is fighting with each other. I think it's gonna

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be certain parts, there'll be different locations. But I mean,

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I just think that's inevitable because you know, the left

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will if Trump does not destroy all of our enemies,

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and that's completely assuming he's not our enemy, then if

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he doesn't destroy all of our enemies on the left

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or regime, you know people who who are down with

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what the regime has been for the last you know,

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one hundred years, then they will be back in power

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one day. And when they get back in power one day,

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if you think they targeted Catholics for praying outside of

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abortion clinics and putting people in jail for you know,

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a decade, trying to put people in jail for a

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decade for you know, touring the Capitol building, then just

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wait for the next time they get in power.

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Speaker 3: And so like I okay, So my and my final

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question on this is we can move on. We could

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keep going because it is it is interesting.

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Speaker 1: But you're doing a really good job of being America's

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greatest news man because you're asking me questions you've actually

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well and you're you're just asking questions to me, which

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is what what you know, the world's greatest news man would.

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Speaker 3: That's what I do best. Yeah, I'm also one of

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the world's greatest interviewers as far as I understand. So

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they say, erdo You're so good at asking basic questions

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and I usually like to nod and say thank you.

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It's a talent that I have. The Only thing that

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I really don't understand now that you've you've laid it out,

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and I think your case makes perfect sense to me.

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But why are why is America's attention being split between

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what's going on in Ukraine and what's going on in Gaza.

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If it's a related faction that's behind the continuation of

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both things or the completion of one. I think they

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want to complete the Goaza thing at this point. Maybe

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they don't, that's you can tell me. But why would

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they split America's attention in this way? When don't you

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think it would be more effective to hold off on

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one and allow for the other, or are both concurrently occurring?

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Is that intentional?

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Speaker 1: Well, if they can do both at the same time

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while making people believe that they're completely unrelated. If people

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thought and when I say people, I'm talking about you know, elites,

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people who have the power to actually change things, and

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you know, I mean, I know people who study both

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of these conflicts who don't see that they're related, who

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think that they're completely separated from each other, which I don't.

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But if you can convince people that they're completely unrelated,

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and you have going back and forth, and you have

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them going back and forth between one and the other,

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First of all, it keeps you off kilter, It keeps

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you it takes you off of your center. And second

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of all, it makes you feel like you're either have

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to choose one or the other, or choose none or

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choose none of them. But the one that they've I

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think they've given up on trying to convince most Americans

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that the that you know, Putin and Ukraine is the

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most important one. So you have to basically they basically

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have to say, well, you know they can use October

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seventh as a rallying cry, as a sort of proxy

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nine to eleven to be like, wow, those are that's that.

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Qatar is our greatest ally right And you know they

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went over there and they raped babies and they bayoneted babies,

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and you know they had a human it behead them

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and yeah, yeah ovens they turned them into food and

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cooked them in ovens and everything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they ate them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That seems to me that the one you're going to

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push for, push harder, because then you can the propaganda

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can work on more people. Now I don't think, I think.

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Speaker 3: But you see how the left and the right in

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America are sort of separated in their support of one

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or the other. And when I say right, you know

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what I mean by that. I'm not talking about our people.

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I'm talking about people who occupy the space called the right.

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They swear that they're on the right, and it does

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seem like that group it wants to wrap up on

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this Ukraine conflict, and then it seems like the people

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on the left want to wrap up on the Gaza conflict.

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And instead of the magnifying lens focusing the two beams

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of light into one thing, it seems like it's splitting

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America's support, which doesn't seem like a wise Katari strategy.

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I get what you're saying that they don't associate them

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with one another, but it does seem like one of

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those operations is certainly going to fail in the near future.

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I think, which is what's going on in Ukraine and

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the other one may succeed. What's what's going on in

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Goza may succeed because Trump seems to be down with it.

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But why would they split the attention, or I should say,

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why wouldn't they make them one thing so as to

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unify that left and right.

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Speaker 1: I think people have a more emotional tie to Qatar

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than they do to Russia and Ukraine because that's.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, people, people beyond Qataris in the United States, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I agree with Kataris have made some of people's you know,

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favorite music, favorite movies run Hollywood. You know, shows like

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Seinfeld where you have an ethnic.

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Speaker 3: Ar they gave he key.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so.

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Speaker 1: You basically have done a really good job of convincing

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people that, you know, these these guitaris over here, you know,

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they're they're the good people. Now, since katar took over,

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there were so many Kataris in education and in academia.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Famously, in nineteen it was nineteen sixty eight, I was

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reading in the book Harold Saltzman book. He said that

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there were sixty thousand public school teachers in New York

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and sixty percent of them were ethnic Kataris. So they've

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had control of education for a very long time. And unfortunately,

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what a lot of them have done is is they've

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pushed a very liberal, leftist kind.

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Speaker 2: Of worldview out there.

480
00:29:54,079 --> 00:29:58,319
Speaker 1: You know, white people are oppressors, white people are colonizers,

481
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,519
and the right, people who are inclined to the right,

482
00:30:02,559 --> 00:30:05,400
they look at that and the as bullshit. But people

483
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,039
on the left are like, yes, yes, these people are colonizers.

484
00:30:09,119 --> 00:30:11,039
Just look at South Africa. Look what they did in

485
00:30:11,079 --> 00:30:16,960
South Africa, and then they basically have what they didn't

486
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:20,279
count on was you. They look at Qatar and they

487
00:30:20,319 --> 00:30:24,119
see that, oh wow, these these Kataris seem to be

488
00:30:25,559 --> 00:30:28,960
doing the same thing to the Palestinians that you know

489
00:30:29,079 --> 00:30:31,759
that the South Africans did to the blacks down there.

490
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,519
So they're actually you.

491
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,559
Speaker 3: Had such a good tweet about that, and I'm sure

492
00:30:36,599 --> 00:30:38,599
you know which one I'm referring to. Can you can

493
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,920
you dispel this myth? Because I was under the impression

494
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:46,720
what you were talking about was a valid comparison, the

495
00:30:46,759 --> 00:30:51,200
comparison of what is going on to the Gozens with

496
00:30:51,359 --> 00:30:55,519
what was going on to the South Africans. Why is

497
00:30:55,559 --> 00:30:57,599
that not a valid comparison.

498
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,519
Speaker 1: It's not a valid comparison because when the South Africa,

499
00:31:01,559 --> 00:31:05,200
when when the Dutch and the and the white Europeans

500
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,640
move to South Africa, there were no blacks there, and

501
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:13,559
the few blacks that were there were there were they

502
00:31:13,839 --> 00:31:14,640
just lived there.

503
00:31:15,599 --> 00:31:19,359
Speaker 3: Well ki the Koissan blacks. And you saw Malema and

504
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:24,240
his people being interviewed and going, well, the Bores came here,

505
00:31:25,079 --> 00:31:28,680
uh and they colonized this land. And then the guy goes,

506
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,759
you mean Bantu land, and he goes, no, no, the Koisson.

507
00:31:31,839 --> 00:31:34,720
But but South Africa is a Bantu country. So it's

508
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:38,160
funny how they they sort of just they don't care

509
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,000
about the Koisson either. This is just part of the line.

510
00:31:41,119 --> 00:31:44,440
Is it's really just anti white. They don't they've never

511
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,319
thought about the Koisson. They're like trees to those people.

512
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: Right, So you know, the whites, the whites basically started

513
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:58,240
to im South African whites started to import and allow

514
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:02,119
blacks from the outside to move into South Africa and

515
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:08,279
they employed them. And that's different than this myth that

516
00:32:08,319 --> 00:32:12,640
the Qataris sell that, oh, a land without a people

517
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,759
for a people without a land. When the Kataris started

518
00:32:15,799 --> 00:32:17,319
moving to to.

519
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,359
Speaker 2: Qatar, they.

520
00:32:20,759 --> 00:32:24,119
Speaker 1: Displaced a people seven hundred and fifty thousand and one year,

521
00:32:24,799 --> 00:32:29,519
and then they kept a small group there around them.

522
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,039
Speaker 2: In my personal opinion.

523
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: Because the Kataris are a people who always have to

524
00:32:35,279 --> 00:32:38,720
be seen as the victim. That's one of their power.

525
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,240
One of their powers is that they always have to

526
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:42,559
be seen as the victim.

527
00:32:42,839 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 3: So by parting dialectic that they set up in those

528
00:32:45,759 --> 00:32:47,440
universities like you're talking about.

529
00:32:48,279 --> 00:32:53,319
Speaker 1: Correct, And so if you keep these people around and

530
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,240
you abuse them every once in a while, they're going

531
00:32:56,279 --> 00:33:00,680
to fight back. And you can go, look, look these

532
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,440
terrible people. They came and they we came to this

533
00:33:03,599 --> 00:33:06,640
land where no one was there, and they just swarmed

534
00:33:06,799 --> 00:33:09,880
in and you know, they started, you know, and so

535
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:13,839
they're basically by comparing when you try to compare the

536
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:18,759
Palestinians to the South Africans, no, the South that you know,

537
00:33:18,799 --> 00:33:20,759
and then you'll have to go through then, you know,

538
00:33:20,839 --> 00:33:22,759
if you want to talk about South Africa and how

539
00:33:22,759 --> 00:33:25,240
it's not a good comparison, you'll have to talk about apartheid.

540
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:29,720
And was apartheid a great system? You kinda? Yeah, it

541
00:33:29,799 --> 00:33:33,240
kind of worked. Were their abuses, Yeah, there are always abuses.

542
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,480
Were there terrorists among the blacks?

543
00:33:35,799 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 2: Yes there were.

544
00:33:36,759 --> 00:33:38,839
Speaker 1: Why then you have to ask, well, why did apartheid

545
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:43,160
get set up in the first place? Okay, Well maybe

546
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:47,039
they realized that they couldn't live, they couldn't live completely

547
00:33:47,079 --> 00:33:51,119
as equals with these people, okay.

548
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,559
Speaker 3: The illegal immigrant Bantu. Yeah.

549
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, So.

550
00:33:56,279 --> 00:34:00,359
Speaker 1: Trying to say, trying to compare a people who weren't

551
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,759
in that land when somebody went there and settled it,

552
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:09,159
but came in afterwards to somebody who was on that land,

553
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,320
who was displaced by the people who came there. And

554
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,679
I'm not going to call the Katari's colonizers or anything

555
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,199
like that. I think that's all bullshit. I think you know,

556
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:23,920
you you you take everything for you take everything for

557
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:28,800
what it is. War is, War is in our It's

558
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,800
a part of us. It's not going away.

559
00:34:31,159 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 2: Ever. That's why one of the one of the reasons.

560
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 1: Why people have people have this uh this reaction to

561
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,519
war is because it's like the end of history. What

562
00:34:41,599 --> 00:34:44,559
you know, liberalism one, Why are we even having war?

563
00:34:44,599 --> 00:34:47,599
Why how could a country invade their neighbor. It's like, well,

564
00:34:47,639 --> 00:34:50,840
I mean, that's called history, it's called humanity, it's called

565
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,840
what we do, what we do for what we've been

566
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,199
doing forever. But you know, it's not the same thing

567
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,119
as if you know, people come from you know, two

568
00:34:59,159 --> 00:35:01,599
thousand and three thousand than four thousand miles away and

569
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,960
just take over a land. And I'm not even saying

570
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,360
that that's bad. I'm just saying that if you're going

571
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,719
to do that, don't keep any of them around or

572
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:17,360
expect that their relatives, or their co ethnics or their

573
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:22,519
co religionists, if they're around the area, they're probably not

574
00:35:22,639 --> 00:35:24,800
going to be happy about what you just did to them,

575
00:35:25,079 --> 00:35:26,440
even if they don't like them.

576
00:35:26,519 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 3: Huh. Yeah. The post colonial dialectic, one of the issues

577
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,119
is that whenever, as an American, one of the issues

578
00:35:35,199 --> 00:35:37,559
is that whenever something bad happens over there, the people

579
00:35:37,599 --> 00:35:41,039
who had happened to come here. So, I mean, at

580
00:35:41,039 --> 00:35:44,960
a very basic level, I'm opposed to ethnic conflicts in

581
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:51,800
other countries' colonialization because as the world's number one, greatest power,

582
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:56,400
highest wealth, people come here. So I mean, even at

583
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,239
a very basic nationalist level, I think it's totally unaccepted us,

584
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,599
but especially totally unacceptable that anything happens in the world

585
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,920
that doesn't go through us, which the current leader of

586
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,320
the Katari is seems to be very happy with doing

587
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,440
what he pleases and then allowing us to clean up

588
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:15,079
after him, and the GOP is happy to follow behind

589
00:36:15,159 --> 00:36:17,320
him and suck his crap up from the ground.

590
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, And you know, I also, you know,

591
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,679
as an American, someone who was born American, someone who

592
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:32,039
doesn't consider themselves anything other than American. I really, you know,

593
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,239
Katar is not a country that I should even be

594
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,960
aware of. He shouldn't even be on my radar, you know,

595
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,719
much like South Africa shouldn't be on my radar. Yeah,

596
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,400
I mean these are not they have nothing. Sure, maybe

597
00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,800
we can trade with them, maybe, you know, maybe we can.

598
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,440
You know, it's like, hey, we're gonna do this sale.

599
00:36:51,639 --> 00:36:55,039
We're gonna we're gonna our merchant ships are going to

600
00:36:55,119 --> 00:36:58,000
go around the cape down there. Can you know, can

601
00:36:58,039 --> 00:37:00,480
we do some kind of deal where you make sure

602
00:37:00,519 --> 00:37:03,559
that no savages come out, you know, stuff like that.

603
00:37:03,559 --> 00:37:06,639
That's how you would know that, you know, Qatar exists

604
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,280
or South South Africa exists. The problem is is that,

605
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,519
you know, after the Second World War, we got globalism

606
00:37:15,519 --> 00:37:19,679
where it was everything, you know, we we got occupation,

607
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:27,239
we got you know, countries white historically white European countries

608
00:37:27,679 --> 00:37:30,079
are not allowed to be white in European anymore. And

609
00:37:30,119 --> 00:37:31,920
if they are white in European, they have to be

610
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,679
socially engineered out of out of whatever their historic, whatever

611
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:40,719
their history is. And then if they if they if

612
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,119
they fight back against that, well we're going to flood

613
00:37:43,159 --> 00:37:45,760
their country. We're going to open the mental asylums in

614
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,760
Africa and the Middle East, and we're going to flood

615
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:54,000
their country with military age men who are you know,

616
00:37:54,159 --> 00:37:56,519
who are not a part and will never be a

617
00:37:56,519 --> 00:37:57,719
part of the culture.

618
00:37:59,039 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 3: And Katari.

619
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:07,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, that's great. Break the fourth wall for

620
00:38:07,679 --> 00:38:13,920
a second. But yeah, So the people who try to

621
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:18,159
make this like simple, Oh the Qataris, this is all

622
00:38:18,199 --> 00:38:22,239
about the Qataris. Yeah, you know, here and there, you

623
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,719
know there there are some that are, but there are

624
00:38:26,119 --> 00:38:35,360
more than there are, many thousands upon thousands of white Europeans,

625
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:42,880
non Qataris that are willing to work with them, who, yeah,

626
00:38:45,159 --> 00:38:49,719
deserve just as much of the blame as the Qataris do. Sure,

627
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,159
we need to know who may be pulling the strings

628
00:38:52,159 --> 00:38:55,400
here and there, where the influence came from, where this

629
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,760
all of that. Sure, but it's more important to know

630
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,039
what the organization is, and it's more important to know who.

631
00:39:03,559 --> 00:39:06,119
It's more important to know where, where they're operating and

632
00:39:06,159 --> 00:39:10,239
how they're operating. You know, you want to at this point,

633
00:39:12,559 --> 00:39:15,519
if they were to kill Putin today, if they were

634
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:22,000
if that assassination went through, I don't know, if I

635
00:39:22,199 --> 00:39:26,800
was president of the United States, and that meant that

636
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:34,039
there was a full on basically, and I'm not even

637
00:39:34,119 --> 00:39:38,719
discounting this right now. If I was president of the

638
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,679
United States, I would be making plans to invade mainland

639
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:45,960
Europe and destroy the EU once and for all, destroy

640
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,239
the w e F, and destroy the city of London.

641
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 3: As far as I understand, isn't that what Jeron Powell

642
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,639
is trying to do.

643
00:39:53,159 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: He's doing that financially, He's been doing that financially, and

644
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,199
I think that's one of the reasons Scott Besson was

645
00:40:00,199 --> 00:40:04,239
brought on. Scott Bessont helped to destroy the British Pound

646
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,239
at one point.

647
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,199
Speaker 3: And I think he's one of our guys too. Do

648
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,760
you think that as well or at least amenable to that.

649
00:40:12,199 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 1: Well, I think that, you know, this goes back to

650
00:40:14,679 --> 00:40:16,360
one of the things I was going to say earlier

651
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:21,480
before I easily get sidetracked, is I think these guys

652
00:40:21,519 --> 00:40:24,519
are not working for us. I think they're working for themselves,

653
00:40:24,599 --> 00:40:27,000
and they're working for their interests. But I think that

654
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:31,400
the Jerome Pal Scott bess In faction, if they were

655
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,079
to win, it would be more beneficial for us than

656
00:40:34,119 --> 00:40:37,000
if any of the other groups one. You know, you

657
00:40:37,039 --> 00:40:40,039
don't it's you know, it's like this thing that libertarians

658
00:40:40,039 --> 00:40:41,920
needs to talk about. Oh you know, if you have

659
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,440
someone who goes out there and becomes a billionaire by

660
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,719
creating this thing, well you know, they did it for

661
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,239
self interest, but maybe that thing, you know, makes your

662
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:50,880
life easier.

663
00:40:51,599 --> 00:40:53,639
Speaker 3: That's a trick down sort of thing.

664
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, yeah, yeah, And it's like, okay, well I'm

665
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,360
willing to accept. I'm willing to accept that, you know,

666
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:03,159
knowing whatever Jerome pal is, knowing Scott Besson as a homo.

667
00:41:03,679 --> 00:41:10,119
I mean this, Yeah, choosing your you know, choosing your

668
00:41:11,559 --> 00:41:13,239
You don't get to choose your end. You don't get

669
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,239
to choose your allies at this point, you know, and

670
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,639
not even saying that they're an ally, that they're working

671
00:41:18,679 --> 00:41:21,599
for you, but you don't get to be like, well,

672
00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:25,960
I hope he fails because he's a homo and what.

673
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 3: He John Friedman has two children. How do you get

674
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:30,880
the kids?

675
00:41:31,679 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, I don't I don't

676
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,280
I don't fucking like it. But what I'm saying is

677
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,320
is that there's what's what's the fucking I mean, we're

678
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:44,599
literally looking at at like the fucking left getting back

679
00:41:44,639 --> 00:41:49,599
in power, or the City of London still existing and

680
00:41:50,199 --> 00:41:53,000
having control over US and the w e F and

681
00:41:53,039 --> 00:41:56,079
the EU trying to get us into a fucking world war,

682
00:41:56,679 --> 00:41:59,760
possibly with nukes. And I'm like, well, I mean, I'm

683
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:04,000
gonna root for whoever I can look at and figure out, Okay,

684
00:42:04,039 --> 00:42:07,719
that person, whatever that person wants, would probably benefit me

685
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:08,239
the best.

686
00:42:11,159 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 3: That was my whole justification for trying to go to

687
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,519
bat for Trump. It was just the idea that, yeah,

688
00:42:16,559 --> 00:42:20,039
the alternative is far worse, and I think I still

689
00:42:20,599 --> 00:42:24,440
stand by that. But now that we're one hundred and

690
00:42:24,519 --> 00:42:26,119
what are we one hundred and twenty five days in

691
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:27,280
or something like that.

692
00:42:28,559 --> 00:42:31,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean think about it. Okay, So what Trumps says,

693
00:42:32,199 --> 00:42:37,679
Trump has a faction around him that doesn't like what

694
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,880
the Qataris are doing, and that is.

695
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 3: The Teal faction. That's what that kind of I.

696
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 2: Don't even know.

697
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 1: If I don't know, I'm thinking more along the lines

698
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:53,000
of I'm convinced that that Jerome Pal faction doesn't like

699
00:42:53,039 --> 00:42:57,559
the po power. Jerome Pal is a seventh generation American.

700
00:42:57,639 --> 00:43:00,119
I think Scott Besson is a ninth generation of America. And

701
00:43:00,159 --> 00:43:04,920
I mean drone Pals like a seventh generation Virginian. I

702
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:09,960
think that these these wasps who like Colonel McGregor, who

703
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:14,760
go on Judge Nap Show and are literally naming the

704
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:19,119
Katari now are I think this is a wasp faction

705
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:23,239
that realizes we want we controlled this thing at one point,

706
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:27,679
we want it back. And I think you could even

707
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,159
count Tucker as being a.

708
00:43:30,119 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 2: Part of that group.

709
00:43:31,679 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 1: And that's that would be the fact, if that is

710
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,760
in fact what they're trying to do. And when I

711
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,480
look at Pale, especially what pal has been doing for

712
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,840
the last four years in weakening the EU, weakening the

713
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,920
euro dollar, you know, weakening the British pound. I mean

714
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,000
the British pound when I was growing up, I mean

715
00:43:51,079 --> 00:43:53,960
all our lives was pegged. It was almost like it

716
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:58,119
was pegged two dollars, two British pounds to one US dollar.

717
00:43:58,519 --> 00:44:00,360
It's down to one and a quarter. It's down to

718
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:04,480
one and a quarter now. So Jerome power. And that's

719
00:44:04,559 --> 00:44:06,519
that's all happens since Jerome Palell has been at the

720
00:44:06,519 --> 00:44:09,119
head of the FED. You know, and people talk about, oh,

721
00:44:09,199 --> 00:44:13,079
Jerome Palell and Trump they're always fighting, and they're always

722
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,199
fighting publicly, and they'll say nasty stuff about each other.

723
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 2: You know.

724
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,280
Speaker 1: The Trump will say nasty stuff, and then Jerome Palell

725
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,840
just brushed it off and go, can't do anything. I'm

726
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,320
the head of the FED. I do what I want.

727
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,559
Speaker 3: I was going to hear al is Trump's boss, so

728
00:44:26,599 --> 00:44:29,239
he could talk all he wants, you.

729
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: Know, and then you hear Scott Bess and go, I

730
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:35,440
have lunch with Jerome Powell every Monday morning. Yeah, It's like, oh, okay,

731
00:44:35,679 --> 00:44:39,400
so what's that all about? You know, So I don't

732
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:42,840
have any hope. Let's put it this way. Let's let's

733
00:44:43,199 --> 00:44:45,159
let me try to, you know, put a bow on

734
00:44:45,199 --> 00:44:47,480
it like this. I don't have any hope that my

735
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:53,679
enemy is going to be destroyed by this, by this.

736
00:44:56,039 --> 00:44:58,679
Speaker 2: Regime that's in charge right now. I believe that.

737
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,519
Speaker 1: I believe they've been weak in but they were weakened

738
00:45:01,599 --> 00:45:04,079
under Biden. I mean, Pile was doing this when Biden

739
00:45:04,199 --> 00:45:08,320
was president. I think they can be weakened further, but

740
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:12,719
I don't see them going away because they have, you know, resource,

741
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,119
they have resources that have been built up over centuries.

742
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:22,559
So you know, I'm basically what I'm hoping for is

743
00:45:22,679 --> 00:45:26,719
I'm hoping for a We're gonna have a bad period,

744
00:45:28,079 --> 00:45:31,800
and then when after a bad period, the hope is

745
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,320
is that we have like a mini Golden Age. And

746
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,880
I know, using the term Golden Age, people will jump

747
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:40,440
all over that and be like, Pete's just coping. I

748
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,559
don't really care. You're not smarter than I am, all right.

749
00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:47,079
I mean if you if you're one of these people

750
00:45:47,119 --> 00:45:51,199
who goes they control everything, I mean you're you're a

751
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:56,280
bigger guitarist than they are. Okay, yeah, you think they're

752
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,320
more You think they're more powerful than actually they believe

753
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:04,000
that they're than they believe. They wouldn't be panicking the

754
00:46:04,559 --> 00:46:07,760
way they're doing if they actually believe that they were

755
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:11,840
as powerful as you think they are. So I'm just

756
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,519
basically hoping that we have some kind of light at

757
00:46:14,559 --> 00:46:17,280
the end of the tunnel where we have an age

758
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:22,599
where our guys can concentrate and plan to acquire wealth,

759
00:46:22,679 --> 00:46:27,400
acquire land, build businesses, do things that can last into

760
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,880
the future, so that you can build something to fight

761
00:46:31,039 --> 00:46:35,280
back when the enemy eventually gets back in charge. Because

762
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,360
if you think, I mean we still have voting in

763
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:44,199
this country in twenty twenty twenty eight, people can be

764
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:49,559
retarded or they can fix it again, and the enemy

765
00:46:49,599 --> 00:46:53,960
can get back in charge. Okay, well, what would.

766
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:54,559
Speaker 2: You rather be?

767
00:46:55,079 --> 00:46:59,039
Speaker 1: Would you rather have more wealth or would you rather

768
00:46:59,079 --> 00:47:02,440
be where you are now? Would you rather be wallowing

769
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,000
and saying, oh my god, the Katari's control everything. I

770
00:47:06,039 --> 00:47:08,719
can't do anything, Oh my god. Or would you rather

771
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,800
be busting your ass for the next three and a

772
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:15,960
half years building up something that is an edifice that

773
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:20,760
they can't climb over, or that not that they can't

774
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,679
climb over, that they may just pass by because it's

775
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,800
not worth it. Let's pick off somebody, pick off somebody

776
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:32,679
else who's weaker, because that's coming. If people don't believe

777
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,480
that's coming, they're the ones who are doing the coping.

778
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 3: I thought it was very interesting now as we get

779
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,480
closer to the day of recording, that there has not

780
00:47:46,639 --> 00:47:52,320
been a significant backlash as far as I've seen, to

781
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:56,320
the events that occurred outside of the Israeli embassy in

782
00:47:56,679 --> 00:48:00,559
New York, the killing of the two Sorry it wasn't

783
00:48:00,599 --> 00:48:04,800
it was sorry it was d D d C. So

784
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,119
I thought that was very interesting. I did not. I

785
00:48:07,159 --> 00:48:08,920
haven't seen a lot of backlash, but the one thing

786
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,719
I thought was quite interesting. I want to know you're

787
00:48:12,559 --> 00:48:16,559
maybe your deeper thoughts on this will say what what

788
00:48:16,639 --> 00:48:19,599
kind of networks you think this is pulling from? These

789
00:48:19,639 --> 00:48:23,159
two Yaron Leshinsky and I think the other one was

790
00:48:23,199 --> 00:48:33,679
Sarah Milgram, were workers at this at the embassy and

791
00:48:34,639 --> 00:48:38,559
were apparently one of them was a Christian. This might

792
00:48:38,559 --> 00:48:40,719
even be the case that both of them were Christian.

793
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: I haven't really haven't looked at nobody uses. Nobody is

794
00:48:45,039 --> 00:48:50,119
using that term unless it's unless it's as a weapon, because.

795
00:48:50,599 --> 00:48:51,679
Speaker 3: So that's what I'm asking.

796
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:55,599
Speaker 2: Yes, I keep hearing messianic Jews.

797
00:48:55,280 --> 00:49:01,639
Speaker 3: Mesic Jews. Yes, which Christian term for a Christian? I agree,

798
00:49:01,639 --> 00:49:05,440
I've never heard of it. Now, it's certainly possible. The

799
00:49:05,599 --> 00:49:09,920
name Yarren Lishinsky, who was born in Nuremberg, Germany, doesn't

800
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,880
sound like the name of a Christian usually, I'm willing

801
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:15,320
to admit it certainly could be. But as far as

802
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,639
I understand, he didn't have a conversion experience, he was

803
00:49:17,679 --> 00:49:21,480
born a Christian. Now, I thought it was very interesting

804
00:49:21,559 --> 00:49:27,440
because it certainly seems an interesting time that one or

805
00:49:27,519 --> 00:49:33,400
two Christians would be gunned down by a quote left

806
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:37,559
wing nut, Palestine supporting left wing nut at a time

807
00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:39,920
like this. Did did you find that interesting as well?

808
00:49:40,079 --> 00:49:42,320
I think for the reasons you you pick up on

809
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:44,039
what I'm insinuating about.

810
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 1: That well, of course, because you know, let's we'll drop

811
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:56,639
the Katari now. No, yeah, we were doing good. But

812
00:49:58,599 --> 00:50:03,000
of course it seems odd. I mean, Israel has basically

813
00:50:03,039 --> 00:50:08,079
lost the plot Americans. There was a I can't remember

814
00:50:08,079 --> 00:50:12,840
who did it, but it was a mainstream poll service

815
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,039
and the Zero Hedge was reporting on this. That's the

816
00:50:16,119 --> 00:50:19,719
article that I read on my sub stack was less

817
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:23,360
than less than fifty percent of Americans now support Israel.

818
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 2: And you know it's.

819
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: Higher among boomers of course. I mean, you know, that's

820
00:50:29,599 --> 00:50:35,000
the biggest age group and generation. But I mean as

821
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,719
far as gen Z and Jen I think it's jen A.

822
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:42,639
It's like in the gutter, it's it's you.

823
00:50:42,599 --> 00:50:44,199
Speaker 3: Know, yes, they've got an.

824
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, less than twenty percent. So yeah, it does seem

825
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:59,440
odd considering you know, this happens and immediately and you know,

826
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,960
all right, this happens, I'll throw this out there. If

827
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:09,400
they are dead, if these people even exist, then it's

828
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:14,119
a really weird time for it to happen. And immediately

829
00:51:14,159 --> 00:51:19,239
what you saw the propaganda was was, look, they're doing

830
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:25,079
this to Christians too, And it's like, okay, well this

831
00:51:25,079 --> 00:51:31,039
this guy, what was Ili and Gonzalez Elias Rodriguez.

832
00:51:31,559 --> 00:51:35,119
Speaker 3: Okay, same thing, just different yeah, different sounds.

833
00:51:35,199 --> 00:51:42,760
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah. If this this guy targeted them knowing

834
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:47,119
they were Christians outside of a outside of the whatever,

835
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:52,000
the embassy, the Israeli embassy in DC. No, if this

836
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,559
is all on the up and up, no, he I

837
00:51:54,679 --> 00:51:58,840
assume he thought they were Jews, so doing the whole

838
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:03,000
Christian Oh, they're killing Christians now, well, sorry, that's not

839
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,760
that doesn't work on me. So I've read I've read

840
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,360
too much Edward Burnetes and Walter Lippmann to it to

841
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,840
fall for this. And I'm sure I still fall for

842
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,079
propaganda all the time. I'm not saying that I'm not.

843
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,800
It's there's some propaganda out there that's actually really good.

844
00:52:19,159 --> 00:52:24,880
But this stuff is just is ham fisted. And so

845
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,320
then they go, oh, well, look they're you know, they

846
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:30,480
killed them because they were Jews. Well, the left in

847
00:52:30,519 --> 00:52:36,119
this country doesn't care. Yeah, and you know the right

848
00:52:36,199 --> 00:52:41,920
in this country is more apt to care. But you're losing. Yeah,

849
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:42,880
you're losing them.

850
00:52:43,599 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 3: I take you, two thirds of the right care and

851
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,039
that number is dwindling.

852
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

853
00:52:48,639 --> 00:52:51,760
Speaker 1: So I mean they know that they're losing. I mean

854
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:56,440
there's some I'll just give you this. Some friends of

855
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,159
mine had to hit peace run on them. I'm not

856
00:52:58,199 --> 00:53:00,239
going to say where it is so that I don't

857
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,920
draw attention to this. But they have a group and

858
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,079
they had hit piece run on them. And the first

859
00:53:05,159 --> 00:53:09,480
hit piece was how they were racist, and like leftists

860
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:13,000
were up in arms, they went crazy over this that

861
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:17,360
I can't believe that there's this group that's racist, you know,

862
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:24,320
in twenty twenty five. Well, the second l yeah, the

863
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:29,679
second hit piece was look what they say about the Jews.

864
00:53:30,039 --> 00:53:32,679
Speaker 3: Right, because when the one doesn't work to move the

865
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,199
right wing against them, that's the.

866
00:53:35,079 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 2: Next thing, right, But the thing is and then the.

867
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,679
Speaker 3: Third will be there flourish, which is they're all pedophiles.

868
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,360
That's the third online, that's what they the third thing

869
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:44,760
they do.

870
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,639
Speaker 1: So when this thing came out and they talked about how,

871
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:52,000
oh you know, they even platform anti Semites, and I

872
00:53:52,119 --> 00:53:55,320
was mentioned in the article. I don't know why, because

873
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:56,920
if you would have read the tweet, you would have

874
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,800
seen that I was. I made a whole lot of

875
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:04,320
sense historical and I was very historical as well. The

876
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:08,840
left didn't care. The left wasn't up in art. Wasn't

877
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:12,599
up in arms over this? And that's why you see

878
00:54:13,159 --> 00:54:17,199
Hasbura accounts on Twitter. Now you see people who are

879
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:22,440
obviously Zionist puppets. You see people with they put beepers

880
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:26,400
in there. I've seen the beeper, I've seen their name

881
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:31,639
and everything, and it's like who And you almost when

882
00:54:31,679 --> 00:54:34,599
you see the beeper, you almost think is this our

883
00:54:34,679 --> 00:54:37,360
guys like like trying.

884
00:54:37,079 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 3: To And half the time I wonder because some of

885
00:54:40,039 --> 00:54:41,599
our guys do that stuff.

886
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's like, are these are guys? Because do

887
00:54:44,679 --> 00:54:47,000
they think this is really going to who?

888
00:54:47,039 --> 00:54:47,519
Speaker 2: Who is this?

889
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: It's only helping, that's only attracting people or or or

890
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:57,960
even if it is energizing anyone, it's only energizing people

891
00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:59,960
who already are on your side.

892
00:55:00,559 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 3: Well, that one guy who's a member of the who's

893
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:08,360
a member of the Kabbad of Kentucky, you know what

894
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:13,039
I'm talking about, And you would think actual Kataris were

895
00:55:13,079 --> 00:55:16,840
running his account. You know, sometimes you look at them

896
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,280
and you go this, you know, you you pull up

897
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,719
the old law that goes every organization, think of every

898
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,400
organization as being run by an enemy, and you go

899
00:55:24,519 --> 00:55:27,559
and you wonder with some of these accounts is that

900
00:55:28,119 --> 00:55:30,320
one level of this is a person who really believes

901
00:55:30,320 --> 00:55:33,159
what they're saying versus someone who's playing that that next

902
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:34,440
level of chess.

903
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:35,599
Speaker 2: You talk about.

904
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,039
Speaker 1: Two after THEO Vaughn put out his video where he

905
00:55:39,199 --> 00:55:42,079
was appealing into why are we doing this? He's like, well,

906
00:55:42,119 --> 00:55:44,840
Theovaugh's real last name is this and.

907
00:55:44,679 --> 00:55:45,679
Speaker 2: His last names.

908
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 3: German last name I've ever heard, and his ancestor was

909
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,159
a badass. Yeah, uh huh.

910
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:58,639
Speaker 1: Do you know what his German last name actually translates to?

911
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,679
Speaker 3: What's that? J?

912
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:02,320
Speaker 2: Slayer?

913
00:56:03,599 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 3: Come on, not kidding? Is that guy a real guy?

914
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,679
Speaker 1: The guy he's talk about, He's talked about it, He's

915
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:12,760
talked about it before on his show.

916
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,760
Speaker 3: I Mean, it's like that meme where you go, this

917
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,239
thing is freaking stupid and it's a hot dog skateboarding

918
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,039
and it's goes coolest thing ever.

919
00:56:28,119 --> 00:56:32,119
Speaker 1: It's like the first is this you? That they'll be like,

920
00:56:32,599 --> 00:56:34,239
they'll post like one of your tweets and be like

921
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:34,840
is this you?

922
00:56:35,119 --> 00:56:37,039
Speaker 2: And then you have the meme what is this you?

923
00:56:37,119 --> 00:56:39,360
And then on it it says most base thing ever?

924
00:56:41,599 --> 00:56:43,800
Speaker 3: Okay, it's when you put it's the exact kind of

925
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:47,559
thing that elicits a posting of the Giga Chad underneath it.

926
00:56:48,079 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 1: You forgot the giga Chad meme? Yeah yeah, so yeah,

927
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:56,400
I mean they, I mean their propaganda doesn't even work anymore.

928
00:56:56,440 --> 00:57:00,639
Speaker 3: It's not even why don't Probably I'm seeing my point,

929
00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,000
and I hope that's fair, because I really can't tell

930
00:57:04,079 --> 00:57:08,599
anymore whose propa because I know that people I don't know.

931
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,559
There seems to be sometimes on our side a reaction

932
00:57:11,639 --> 00:57:16,119
to think almost I'm nobody of any major status, but

933
00:57:16,199 --> 00:57:19,199
there's this kind of bubb underbubbling, especially from the Amphibians,

934
00:57:19,719 --> 00:57:24,920
that no other side could possibly do propaganda. And this

935
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,519
is one of the reasons why I kind of avoid

936
00:57:27,559 --> 00:57:31,280
this stuff, because I don't know anymore if the account

937
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,639
that I'm looking at is propaganda or from what side

938
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,360
the propaganda is looking at. So now I just go

939
00:57:37,599 --> 00:57:40,320
entirely by my own intuition, which is to say, what

940
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:43,519
you said, I should regard that country in the Middle

941
00:57:43,559 --> 00:57:48,679
East with the same energy that I regard Burma or

942
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:52,800
something like that, some irre guam, some irrelevant place, and

943
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:54,119
that's how I try to treat it.

944
00:57:54,679 --> 00:57:56,639
Speaker 1: If they didn't have so much power and so much

945
00:57:56,679 --> 00:58:00,400
influence over over politicians in this country. Your sure, it

946
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:04,039
would be easy to it'd be easy to ignore, and

947
00:58:04,199 --> 00:58:09,039
especially over Europe and you know who exerts a lot

948
00:58:09,079 --> 00:58:12,400
of influence on this country. Yeah, there used to be

949
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:20,360
this game that was the ever heard of forward magazine.

950
00:58:20,599 --> 00:58:24,920
I have not Yeah, it calls itself the It's one

951
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:29,280
of the leading Jewish online magazines. And people used to

952
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:33,360
play this. They used to have these. They used to

953
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:37,159
have articles and like titles, and you would see sometimes

954
00:58:37,199 --> 00:58:40,440
you'd see them in like the Jerusalem.

955
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 2: Post or Herrets. It would be like, is it the

956
00:58:43,559 --> 00:58:48,280
daily Forward of the Daily Stormer? You can't tell who?

957
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:54,280
Like who would is? Who's writing this article? Is it?

958
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 1: Like? Literally like is the Stormer back back online? And

959
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:02,280
they're writing articles and you're just like the headline, You're like,

960
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:07,239
why why would you do this? I was like, why

961
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:09,199
would you write an article about this?

962
00:59:09,559 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 2: Yeah?

963
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:15,039
Speaker 1: I mean I think it's just that this specific group

964
00:59:15,119 --> 00:59:20,199
of people were talking about they are so they think

965
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:21,719
they're so right.

966
00:59:22,079 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 2: And I hate this.

967
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 1: Term, but it's a good term to use for a

968
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,159
new people or normies that might be listening who haven't

969
00:59:29,199 --> 00:59:32,679
tuned up by now. They think they're on the right

970
00:59:32,719 --> 00:59:34,840
side of history, so like.

971
00:59:35,119 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 3: Well they do. They'll have to because that's part of

972
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:37,800
the dialectic.

973
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:44,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they'll write articles about like yeah, like oh,

974
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:48,360
how eighty to ninety percent of the foreigners that helped

975
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:53,599
now get going, we're Jewish. Or they'll write about how,

976
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:57,320
you know, when the Armenian genocide happened, the Jews, that's

977
00:59:57,519 --> 01:00:04,760
the Jews that stood by and were, you know, advising them.

978
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:09,000
And it's like, why the why would you write this?

979
01:00:10,159 --> 01:00:16,519
Speaker 3: I know, it seems so miscalculated. You're thinking, is uh,

980
01:00:16,559 --> 01:00:19,360
who is this working for? Yeah, so it doesn't makes

981
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:22,000
you want to what if a system is what it does?

982
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:24,239
And so it makes you wonder.

983
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 1: And I think it's one of those things where it's like.

984
01:00:29,519 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 2: If they get enough people.

985
01:00:31,599 --> 01:00:36,679
Speaker 1: To There was this theory after October seventh that the

986
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:41,599
reason they were killing civilians in the numbers they were

987
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:45,880
is because they were trying to isolate themselves from the

988
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:50,000
rest of the world, like it was purposely being done

989
01:00:50,519 --> 01:00:55,079
for what purpose? Who the hell knows, but mm hmm.

990
01:00:55,639 --> 01:00:59,280
It almost seems like every every once in a while

991
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:02,480
they do something or they admit to something.

992
01:01:02,679 --> 01:01:03,639
Speaker 3: And it's.

993
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: It's meant to cause people who aren't wedded to their

994
01:01:11,480 --> 01:01:15,039
you know, wedded to their well being. You know people

995
01:01:15,039 --> 01:01:17,840
who are you know just one, you know one d

996
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:19,639
Filo Semites.

997
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:20,559
Speaker 2: That they.

998
01:01:22,239 --> 01:01:26,199
Speaker 1: Want people to hate them so that they have something

999
01:01:26,239 --> 01:01:30,840
to rally around. Look the last two that our whole

1000
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:35,400
history is people hating us for no reason whatsoever. We're

1001
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:38,639
always innocent, we never do anything wrong. I mean, they're there,

1002
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:43,920
their own philosophers. If you go back and your research,

1003
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:46,599
you will find Aaron and I read an article where

1004
01:01:46,599 --> 01:01:49,199
it was just quoting their own philosophers saying, we can

1005
01:01:49,239 --> 01:01:52,599
never admit we're wrong. We always have to be innocent.

1006
01:01:53,199 --> 01:01:54,639
Speaker 3: Was that the psychotic Nation?

1007
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's real, the psychotic Nation.

1008
01:01:57,559 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 3: And I saw recording with him and and he's in

1009
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:06,760
his murder Don jenn or his rape basement, he's hitting

1010
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,079
a hookah. He's got such an image.

1011
01:02:10,239 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's very erin and you know, so

1012
01:02:15,559 --> 01:02:21,360
it's like you, here's the thing is, if they had

1013
01:02:21,519 --> 01:02:26,400
no say over our government, we could just look at

1014
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:28,840
them from afar and like it would just be this

1015
01:02:29,039 --> 01:02:32,599
like anthropologic, you know, we could just look at them

1016
01:02:32,639 --> 01:02:36,079
anthropologically and be like, this is a really weird group

1017
01:02:36,119 --> 01:02:39,519
of people. What the hell is going on over there,

1018
01:02:40,599 --> 01:02:43,920
but the fact that they have so much sway over

1019
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:46,679
what used to be the West, and especially the United

1020
01:02:46,679 --> 01:02:51,760
States in general. You you're almost you're forced, I feel

1021
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:55,880
forced to address it as somebody who you know. I mean,

1022
01:02:55,880 --> 01:03:01,280
it's like, I think people think that I want to

1023
01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:07,199
be talking about Jewish history, Jewish current events. I'd rather

1024
01:03:07,239 --> 01:03:10,599
be talking about hockey. Panthers are up three nothing on

1025
01:03:10,599 --> 01:03:15,679
the Carolina Panthers, on the Carolina Hurricanes right now. I mean,

1026
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:19,039
I would love to be talking about Florida Panther hockey.

1027
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:25,039
Speaker 3: And that's a valid podcast for you to start. When

1028
01:03:25,079 --> 01:03:26,000
this all wraps up.

1029
01:03:26,519 --> 01:03:28,679
Speaker 1: Oh luongo and I did a whole hockey podcast and

1030
01:03:28,679 --> 01:03:31,599
people who didn't even like hockey loved it. We did

1031
01:03:31,599 --> 01:03:33,960
a whole episode. We did a whole episode on it,

1032
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:39,480
and people people think that, you know, it's like, oh, well,

1033
01:03:39,519 --> 01:03:42,639
why would you talk about this. I'm compelled to. I'm

1034
01:03:42,679 --> 01:03:50,880
compelled to talk about this because basically, I I'm part

1035
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:54,360
of this country. You know, I was born here. You

1036
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:58,679
know my I have relatives to serve in the military here.

1037
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:03,920
You know, relatives who are buried all throughout buried all

1038
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:08,480
throughout the country. This is where I belong. This is where.

1039
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:09,119
Speaker 2: I mean.

1040
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:11,639
Speaker 1: I've lived in other countries and I've always come back.

1041
01:04:12,639 --> 01:04:16,760
It's like, I mean, why wouldn't I When I look

1042
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:20,079
and I see, and it's easy to see who is

1043
01:04:20,119 --> 01:04:23,239
exerting the most influence and the most negative influence. That's

1044
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:25,719
the biggest problem I have with being like, oh, you're

1045
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:28,880
just jealous of them because they're successful, successful at what,

1046
01:04:31,159 --> 01:04:35,679
at what? Personally successful. Yes, they can get power, they

1047
01:04:35,719 --> 01:04:37,679
can get positions, they can do a lot of it

1048
01:04:37,719 --> 01:04:40,599
is true nepotism. I don't even have a real problem

1049
01:04:40,599 --> 01:04:43,639
with nepotism. But the problem is is when they get power,

1050
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:48,639
when they get positions of influence, it always pushes everything

1051
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:55,880
to the left or it pushes us into war. Those

1052
01:04:55,880 --> 01:05:01,159
are two things that are a net negative, I mean,

1053
01:05:01,239 --> 01:05:06,360
and could basically spell the end of this country, which

1054
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,519
is which I'm a part of. So how can I

1055
01:05:09,639 --> 01:05:12,800
not talk about that? Sure, I know that there are

1056
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:17,559
other groups involved, but when you're two point four percent

1057
01:05:17,599 --> 01:05:21,559
of the population and you look and you you look

1058
01:05:21,559 --> 01:05:25,920
at the Biden like White House and the first Man

1059
01:05:26,039 --> 01:05:29,360
or whatever they were calling him, Doug Emhoff is out

1060
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:33,159
on like the steps of Congress, and he's like, here

1061
01:05:33,199 --> 01:05:36,239
are the four hundred and fifty seven Jews who are

1062
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:37,960
working directly with Joe Biden.

1063
01:05:41,679 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 2: What the what? What A?

1064
01:05:44,079 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 1: And then I look at the Biden regime and it's

1065
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:53,719
basically war upon my people, Okay. And then you look

1066
01:05:53,719 --> 01:05:56,159
at his cabinet and it's sixty to eighty percent Jewish.

1067
01:05:56,280 --> 01:05:58,320
And you look at the Attorney General, and you look

1068
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:02,960
at the the Department, you look at all all of

1069
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:06,599
these people who are in charge. You look at Victoria Newlan,

1070
01:06:06,639 --> 01:06:09,880
who's basically it doesn't matter if it's a Republican or

1071
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:13,079
a Democrat, she's in charge trying to get us into war,

1072
01:06:13,239 --> 01:06:15,239
you know, getting us into war with Russia, or getting

1073
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:18,079
us into proxy wars with Russia, getting us into proxy

1074
01:06:18,079 --> 01:06:18,880
wars for Israel.

1075
01:06:20,159 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 2: I'm not supposed to what. I'm not supposed to say something?

1076
01:06:23,199 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 1: Why because I'm I should be scared or it's you know,

1077
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:31,800
it's it's ghost, it's not something you know, you know.

1078
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:35,119
Speaker 3: It's becoming less every day. I mean, it's amazing the

1079
01:06:35,159 --> 01:06:38,760
progression of it. This kind of talk is becoming less

1080
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:44,840
and less, uh taboo every day to the compul miscalculation

1081
01:06:45,039 --> 01:06:45,800
of that side.

1082
01:06:46,639 --> 01:06:48,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and people are like oh. You know,

1083
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:52,800
it's like it's like you rarely ever hear me. Yeah,

1084
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,480
you rarely ever hear me say the term the Jews.

1085
01:06:55,679 --> 01:06:59,679
I always say Jews. It'sn't that the Jews. I don't

1086
01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:05,599
like there. I know, I personally know Jews that I

1087
01:07:05,639 --> 01:07:08,559
get along with. We're friends, you know. You know these

1088
01:07:08,599 --> 01:07:11,719
are people who don't have power. They're not trying to manipulate,

1089
01:07:12,199 --> 01:07:14,679
you know, the levers of power, the levers of influence

1090
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:18,039
in certain places, some of them are actually working. They

1091
01:07:18,079 --> 01:07:20,119
may not want to be one hundred percent on my side,

1092
01:07:20,159 --> 01:07:25,199
but they are definitely working in the same direction. It's

1093
01:07:25,239 --> 01:07:30,159
not them, it's this this.

1094
01:07:30,199 --> 01:07:31,039
Speaker 2: Certain group of power.

1095
01:07:31,079 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 1: And you could see that in like when you study

1096
01:07:33,559 --> 01:07:36,280
like Russian history and you look at the stettle. It's

1097
01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:41,440
like with the Rabbis were rabbid, which is funny, Rabbi

1098
01:07:41,559 --> 01:07:45,239
rabbit rabbid lunatics. And then you can you know, once

1099
01:07:45,239 --> 01:07:47,159
you start agains that you go down a rabbit trail.

1100
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:50,800
I mean, there's so much there. I could do this

1101
01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:56,719
all night. You look at how not only were they

1102
01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:00,400
like the peasants around them manipulating them, but they've pipulating

1103
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:03,960
their own people. And that's The worst thing about this

1104
01:08:04,199 --> 01:08:08,159
is is that Kevin McDonald can say this is, you know,

1105
01:08:08,239 --> 01:08:10,840
this is how they've evolved and everything. Okay, but how

1106
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:14,039
did they evolve that way? They evolved that way because

1107
01:08:14,599 --> 01:08:19,399
their leadership was constantly telling them everybody outside of our

1108
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:21,880
group wants to kill you. And you're also the most

1109
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:25,479
special people who've ever been born, So you're basically breeding

1110
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:34,359
a narcissist class. And yeah, I mean it's it's the

1111
01:08:34,359 --> 01:08:39,039
ones who have who think that they have to, you know,

1112
01:08:39,119 --> 01:08:42,600
heal the world, or the ones that think that they

1113
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:43,000
have to.

1114
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:45,399
Speaker 2: It always seems.

1115
01:08:45,079 --> 01:08:48,199
Speaker 1: Like what their what their goal is, and what they

1116
01:08:48,319 --> 01:08:54,039
brag about is completely against the culture that they've their

1117
01:08:54,079 --> 01:08:56,600
diaspora has you know, found its way into.

1118
01:08:59,119 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 3: Well says, it's very good that the left wing was

1119
01:09:04,039 --> 01:09:07,399
given the term woke right so that they can easily

1120
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:10,760
dismiss the nuances of this conversation when they start to

1121
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:11,159
hear it.

1122
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 1: H James Lindsay. James Lindsay and actually it was somebody

1123
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:28,439
tracked down that it may have actually been James one

1124
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:37,840
of James Lindsay's bosses. A Jewish female millionaire or billionaire

1125
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:40,479
that has something to do with the Manhattan Institute or

1126
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:43,560
I can't remember everything, but.

1127
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:46,640
Speaker 3: Sounds like that's the sounds like that's the system doing

1128
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:47,680
what it what it does.

1129
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:50,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is you know, the purpose system is what

1130
01:09:50,319 --> 01:09:54,960
it does. So yeah, I mean to take it all back,

1131
01:09:55,039 --> 01:09:56,600
you know, it's all the way back. I mean, I

1132
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:59,800
see this is what I see out of Ukraine. This

1133
01:09:59,880 --> 01:10:01,600
is what I see out of Russia because I know

1134
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:04,920
the Russian history of the nineties, and Scott Horton's supposed

1135
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:07,039
to have somebody who's writing a book on that that

1136
01:10:07,079 --> 01:10:10,319
they're supposed to release, and it's I heard an interview

1137
01:10:10,359 --> 01:10:12,640
with this woman and she has such in depth knowledge

1138
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:14,680
of everything that was going on in the nineties. And

1139
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:18,399
you know other people have talked about it too, you

1140
01:10:18,399 --> 01:10:23,319
know who really know, really know the history nineties Russia

1141
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:28,960
is fascinating and terrifying and insanely said. And I mean

1142
01:10:29,039 --> 01:10:31,319
what you're seeing now is just a continuation of that.

1143
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:33,960
Is trying to get back at Putin for cutting off

1144
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:38,119
their their destruction of Russia is what you know that

1145
01:10:38,159 --> 01:10:40,640
they wanted to do, just like they you know, had

1146
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:46,119
to destroy Germany. So yeah, and I you know what

1147
01:10:46,319 --> 01:10:51,399
what's happening in Gaza. You know there's the question of

1148
01:10:51,439 --> 01:10:53,199
whether they knew what was going to happen and they

1149
01:10:53,279 --> 01:10:57,359
let it happen. It was completely a surprise, whichever side

1150
01:10:57,439 --> 01:11:01,159
you take on that really what what's most important is

1151
01:11:01,199 --> 01:11:07,600
what the reaction to it was. And if you sit

1152
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:11,359
down and you study and you look at the reaction,

1153
01:11:12,039 --> 01:11:17,119
when you realize that the telegram channel seventy two Virgins,

1154
01:11:17,359 --> 01:11:21,159
which just basically showed every atrocity the IDF was doing,

1155
01:11:22,319 --> 01:11:25,039
was actually run by the IDF, and they were putting

1156
01:11:25,119 --> 01:11:33,720
up their own atrocities, you have to it's I think

1157
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,359
it's very easy to say that these are just insane

1158
01:11:36,399 --> 01:11:43,000
people and they're evil, and you know, maybe I have

1159
01:11:43,039 --> 01:11:47,359
an opinion that there's both of those are in play,

1160
01:11:47,399 --> 01:11:49,199
but you also have to question.

1161
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:51,520
Speaker 2: Why would they do that.

1162
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:55,239
Speaker 1: You're doing it for a specific purpose, and what is

1163
01:11:55,279 --> 01:12:00,520
the purpose? I mean, it almost seems like you were

1164
01:12:01,239 --> 01:12:04,479
by doing that, you're committing suicide. You want to commit suicide?

1165
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 3: Well, there is well, and I don't want to get

1166
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:09,439
too much into it because this is the hornet's nest

1167
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:15,560
of all hornets nests, but there is a faction where

1168
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:21,439
that is the metaphysical goal is to bring about a

1169
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:27,319
great oppression so as to accelerate the coming of the Messiah.

1170
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:30,359
And sometimes I think about that when I see things

1171
01:12:30,399 --> 01:12:30,800
like that.

1172
01:12:31,159 --> 01:12:31,319
Speaker 2: Now.

1173
01:12:31,359 --> 01:12:34,079
Speaker 3: I don't know if individual soldiers on the ground realize this,

1174
01:12:34,359 --> 01:12:40,840
but there's a cultural procession of that kind of behavior

1175
01:12:41,359 --> 01:12:45,880
mixed with the we're the victims, where you have to wonder, well,

1176
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:48,079
if those two things are being said at the same time,

1177
01:12:49,079 --> 01:12:52,760
it seems like you're almost goading people into hating you.

1178
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:57,920
And that has only been the succession of culture in

1179
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:02,039
this country. Is that more and more people are moving

1180
01:13:02,119 --> 01:13:05,960
towards that extremely critical view of this country in the

1181
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:08,560
Middle East and the people who support it, which would

1182
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:11,960
have been totally intolerable ten years ago, and it part

1183
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:15,319
of it strategically seems to have come out of that

1184
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:19,079
very side. And so you do you wonder, I mean,

1185
01:13:19,119 --> 01:13:22,840
there are enough and I guess there's a better term

1186
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:27,119
for it, but enough messianic lunatics in that country who

1187
01:13:27,159 --> 01:13:32,000
fall into that shabbatizev style of, you know, bringing about

1188
01:13:32,039 --> 01:13:35,439
the oppression of our own people, where you have to

1189
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:37,760
wonder how much of an influence does that have on

1190
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:43,840
the overall strategy for the elites in that country. That's

1191
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:44,960
what I wonder at least.

1192
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I always think back to like the Sabotans and

1193
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:57,039
how their proto the proto groups whenever they think that

1194
01:13:57,079 --> 01:14:01,960
the Messiah is here, you know, because they you know,

1195
01:14:02,279 --> 01:14:07,399
zeb claimed to be the STI. There's either he either

1196
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:10,720
he did or the people around him said that he was.

1197
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:15,640
And apparently I think in his case it was Nathan

1198
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:19,439
of Gaza who declared him to be the Messiah. But

1199
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you know, the proto Sabatans there there was some not

1200
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:27,600
too long before him who in you know what is

1201
01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:31,319
Poland Ukraine, that area what you know what would become

1202
01:14:31,359 --> 01:14:33,800
the palest settlement where they rose up and they just

1203
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:37,119
they just started killing people. They just started slaughtering people

1204
01:14:37,199 --> 01:14:39,720
because they were like, well, the Messiah's here, he's going

1205
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:41,920
to you know. And that's when the Cossacks came in,

1206
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:44,279
when kimel Nitsky came in and had to put them down.

1207
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:50,920
And you know, well, is that what we're seeing is

1208
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:53,560
that what is is what we're seeing is will they

1209
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:57,199
think that their time has come? Maybe the Messiah is

1210
01:14:57,239 --> 01:15:00,640
not here. Maybe we can by doing this, we can

1211
01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:03,479
get him to reveal himself that you know, God will

1212
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:06,920
send him. God will reveal him if he's already born,

1213
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:10,439
and by you know, slaughtering all of these people, it

1214
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:16,840
will you know, there their eskaton, their concept of an

1215
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:18,319
escaton will start.

1216
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:22,880
Speaker 3: Well. And it's it really is very interesting because that

1217
01:15:23,159 --> 01:15:25,079
you know, the region that we were discussing as the

1218
01:15:25,119 --> 01:15:29,399
first subject of this conversation, in particular to the in

1219
01:15:29,439 --> 01:15:31,960
the west part of Ukraine as Padolia, which is the

1220
01:15:32,039 --> 01:15:35,840
cradle of uh you know Jacob Frank's movement, and it

1221
01:15:36,239 --> 01:15:41,079
does seem like there is an Antinomian There is almost

1222
01:15:41,079 --> 01:15:45,000
seems like there's an Antinomian possession that's going on right

1223
01:15:45,039 --> 01:15:48,399
now in that country in the Middle East, whether it's

1224
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:54,800
intentional or otherwise, that is playing on those same principles

1225
01:15:55,640 --> 01:15:59,520
that was happening in that cradle, which is the subject

1226
01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:01,960
of the other war that's going on, which you say

1227
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:05,239
are related in some way, and I tend to agree

1228
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with you. So that's very interesting.

1229
01:16:07,760 --> 01:16:08,039
Speaker 2: To me.

1230
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Speaker 3: When you say, you wonder when you think about the

1231
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channels on telegram and are these people evil or and

1232
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:21,119
you wonder if there is an obsession with Antinomianism and

1233
01:16:21,159 --> 01:16:25,119
does it come from a religious origin, in which case

1234
01:16:25,600 --> 01:16:30,119
you certainly can't say that it's rational action, it has

1235
01:16:30,199 --> 01:16:36,520
to be a religious messianic action. And so when you're

1236
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:40,039
wondering why is it that it seems like half of

1237
01:16:40,039 --> 01:16:42,800
the antisemitism in this country is being stoked by that

1238
01:16:43,039 --> 01:16:48,960
very side intentionally, you have to wonder is it on purpose?

1239
01:16:49,439 --> 01:16:52,560
And it seems like the more you investigate it, there's

1240
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:55,880
a really strong claim that if it's not on purpose,

1241
01:16:56,560 --> 01:17:00,399
then its intention is acknowledged and not fought again against

1242
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:03,039
at the very least. I mean, I see guys like

1243
01:17:03,119 --> 01:17:08,039
Rabbi Schmooley and and you just go, what other game

1244
01:17:08,159 --> 01:17:12,760
plan is there than to stoke hatred for a particular

1245
01:17:14,119 --> 01:17:18,000
suffering for a reason, you know, to create this suffering servant,

1246
01:17:18,159 --> 01:17:22,199
the suppressed minority idea, to keep it alive in a

1247
01:17:22,239 --> 01:17:25,800
time when it's clear as day this is not real,

1248
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:30,319
It is not true that this is an oppressed group.

1249
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1250
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 1: And then yeah, you go back and you think about

1251
01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:38,640
Schmooley and you're like, is he real?

1252
01:17:40,399 --> 01:17:40,560
Speaker 2: Right?

1253
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:42,720
Speaker 1: He could be a one our guys. Did one of

1254
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:44,000
our guys create him? What?

1255
01:17:45,199 --> 01:17:46,800
Speaker 2: Right? Here? Right? Yeah?

1256
01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:51,039
Speaker 1: But you know, I mean, if well, obviously, if you

1257
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:53,600
if you look at everything that's being done in so

1258
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:55,640
Anomianism can't be that.

1259
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:57,039
Speaker 2: Has to enter the conversation.

1260
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:04,079
Speaker 1: That is why I always I always chuckle when I mention,

1261
01:18:04,399 --> 01:18:08,560
because I've read enough of you know, people think that,

1262
01:18:09,039 --> 01:18:12,399
oh if you if you know anything about your history

1263
01:18:12,399 --> 01:18:15,359
of the Jews can come from mind calm for you know.

1264
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:18,840
So it's like, no, I read them. I read what

1265
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:24,840
they write, and when you read what they write, you're like, well,

1266
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:29,720
these people don't believe in God. They use they say

1267
01:18:29,760 --> 01:18:33,560
that there are some Jews who actually believe in God, sure,

1268
01:18:34,119 --> 01:18:37,119
but for the mostly, for the most part, leadership is.

1269
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1270
01:18:39,119 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 1: Even some of the rabbi, I mean even a lot

1271
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:43,119
of the rabbis, they just don't believe in God.

1272
01:18:43,359 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 3: So it's like it's very clear in terms of the

1273
01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:51,119
elites that it's it's a it's a ploy. It's meant

1274
01:18:51,159 --> 01:18:54,800
to capitalize on the dim wittedness of the majority to

1275
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:57,479
be able to kind of organize them in a metaphysical way.

1276
01:18:57,680 --> 01:18:59,960
They don't believe it at all. It's a man.

1277
01:19:01,079 --> 01:19:01,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1278
01:19:01,239 --> 01:19:05,479
Speaker 1: I mean hertzel Can didn't believe in God. I didn't

1279
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:08,000
believe in God, but he could read the Bible and go, Okay,

1280
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:11,920
there there's groups out there who believe that this is

1281
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:15,880
actually the scripture, and we're going to make them this

1282
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:18,840
is that this is God breathed and we're going to

1283
01:19:19,039 --> 01:19:22,880
make them, you know, we're going to claim that we

1284
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:25,920
believe in this and we're going to use it as

1285
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:29,720
a as Ryan Dawson likes to, you know, say that

1286
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:34,239
the Bible is not like a real estate a real

1287
01:19:34,279 --> 01:19:36,960
estate document. It doesn't give you the right to just

1288
01:19:37,119 --> 01:19:40,039
you know, oh, this is our land here, so well,

1289
01:19:40,079 --> 01:19:42,880
can you can you prove your Jews? Can you can

1290
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:45,680
you prove you have any ties to that land? Well,

1291
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:47,960
we say we're Jews and you have to believe us.

1292
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:50,159
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, that's fine.

1293
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:57,760
Speaker 1: But yeah, and you know Israel Shahak in his book says, yeah, yeah,

1294
01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:01,039
I mean and is somebody who was a professor in

1295
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:03,960
Israeli universities.

1296
01:20:04,319 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 2: This is yeah.

1297
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:09,000
Speaker 1: I mean, they use the Bible when it benefits them.

1298
01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:14,720
They believe in scripture, quote unquote, believe when it benefits them,

1299
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:16,760
when it can when they can use it to manipulate,

1300
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:22,159
is what he said. And yeah, I mean that's there's

1301
01:20:22,159 --> 01:20:26,199
nothing more Antinomian. There's no more Antinomian action than that.

1302
01:20:26,239 --> 01:20:29,800
When you're just basically pretending so that you can you

1303
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:33,479
can manipulate other people, because if you're you know, and

1304
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:36,800
also you know not to mention not only manipulate other people,

1305
01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:37,960
but to murder other people.

1306
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 2: Well, well it gave us.

1307
01:20:42,159 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 3: It's a classic Babylonian trait. For what it's worth is

1308
01:20:48,199 --> 01:20:52,520
it's a classic trait you find among elite societies of

1309
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:58,920
all kinds. Is that this idea that it's okay for

1310
01:20:59,039 --> 01:21:00,399
us to transgre.

1311
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:09,279
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah, but not you, I mean, and that's

1312
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:12,680
and you could also argue that that's just a friend

1313
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:14,479
enemy distinction politics too.

1314
01:21:15,840 --> 01:21:21,039
Speaker 3: It's yeah, I wouldn't yield that that is necessarily Antinomian.

1315
01:21:21,359 --> 01:21:23,720
I mean when you when you see some of the behavior,

1316
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:27,319
like you said on that telegram channel. Now, these are

1317
01:21:27,800 --> 01:21:31,199
plebs and grunts who are who are participating in this,

1318
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:35,520
but it is the whole culture's facilitated by their elites.

1319
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:39,720
They like that this kind of thing is happening, and

1320
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:43,279
that strikes me as particularly Antinomian. I agree with you

1321
01:21:43,319 --> 01:21:46,079
that there is certainly a friend enemy distinction that's being

1322
01:21:46,119 --> 01:21:50,079
applied here, But I don't think you're as a Christian.

1323
01:21:50,119 --> 01:21:51,960
I don't think even as you apply that you are

1324
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:58,199
loosed from your moral obligations. That's the difference they do, right, right.

1325
01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:03,199
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Christians historically haven't just started killing

1326
01:22:03,239 --> 01:22:05,560
people because they wanted to start killing people. There was

1327
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:08,600
always a reason. There was a reason the Crusades happened.

1328
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:09,159
Speaker 2: There was reason.

1329
01:22:09,239 --> 01:22:14,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was always a justification behind it. Usually that

1330
01:22:14,159 --> 01:22:19,079
justification was actually right. Not great to say it, but yeah,

1331
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:21,199
I know a lot I don't hate to say it,

1332
01:22:21,199 --> 01:22:22,399
but I know a lot of people don't want to

1333
01:22:22,439 --> 01:22:26,680
hear that, but it was correct. But yeah, this is

1334
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:32,000
just I mean, this is just killing people for the

1335
01:22:32,039 --> 01:22:36,520
sake of killing people, and you know, the irony shouldn't

1336
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:38,800
be lost that, you know. That's what they that's what

1337
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:42,479
they accused the Germans of doing, killing people because of

1338
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:46,920
who they are and what they believe. I mean, I'm

1339
01:22:47,039 --> 01:22:49,159
not one of these people who was like, you know, oh,

1340
01:22:49,199 --> 01:22:51,800
they're the real Nazis, because that's retarded.

1341
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's too worn out rhetoric. Yeah, it's just too war.

1342
01:22:56,840 --> 01:23:00,680
It just doesn't anymore. It's just it's so boomer fied

1343
01:23:01,119 --> 01:23:01,640
and everything.

1344
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:05,680
Speaker 1: But I mean, like literally, you know, it's like, you know,

1345
01:23:06,119 --> 01:23:11,119
these Nazis national Socialists are the most evil ever because

1346
01:23:11,199 --> 01:23:15,720
they killed, they executed people and slaughtered people because of

1347
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:17,119
who they are and what they believed.

1348
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:18,920
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I mean.

1349
01:23:20,039 --> 01:23:24,079
Speaker 1: If that is your story and you're sticking to it, well,

1350
01:23:24,119 --> 01:23:28,479
I mean I guess I can say were they wrong?

1351
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:33,680
If you think what you're doing is right and you're

1352
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:37,039
going to justify it by saying these people are just

1353
01:23:37,159 --> 01:23:40,760
you know, you know, evil and you know one our destruction,

1354
01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:46,920
well then isn't isn't the narrative that that's what they believe?

1355
01:23:47,039 --> 01:23:47,199
Speaker 2: Too?

1356
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:53,760
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I think you've panted back yourself into

1357
01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:54,520
a corner here.

1358
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:58,199
Speaker 3: Well, you don't understand, Pete. It was Palestinian terrorists who

1359
01:23:58,319 --> 01:24:01,239
convince the Nazis to do the acast.

1360
01:24:02,359 --> 01:24:04,640
Speaker 2: Who said that. Recently, it was.

1361
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:09,359
Speaker 3: Nana who was saying it because his court jester, that

1362
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:11,640
historian is the one who came up with that idea.

1363
01:24:11,720 --> 01:24:15,640
Whatever that guy's name is, who I forget, Benny, Benny Morris.

1364
01:24:16,119 --> 01:24:18,279
That comes from Benny Morris, who's sort of the court

1365
01:24:18,399 --> 01:24:19,920
historian of the Likud party.

1366
01:24:22,319 --> 01:24:27,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I mean, it's just it's insane. Everybody wants

1367
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:30,399
to you know, you have one party over here saying,

1368
01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:33,680
oh the Nazis for being controlled by the Palestinians, and

1369
01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:36,479
you have like Jay Dyer over here saying no, the

1370
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:38,600
Nazis are controlled by the Zionist.

1371
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:43,279
Speaker 3: He yeah, he's just ridiculous, man. I mean, I mean,

1372
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:46,000
I mean, his whole his whole thing was exposed years

1373
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:48,439
ago by Erica Bara. Not that that's now, that's too

1374
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:52,520
Catholic inside baseball. But that guy's not a friend.

1375
01:24:53,039 --> 01:24:56,079
Speaker 1: And we could talk about that off there, because I

1376
01:24:56,319 --> 01:24:58,840
still have a lot of friends that are friends with him,

1377
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:03,720
and I don't uh yeah, hopefully my friends who are

1378
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:07,199
still friends with him are mature enough to you know,

1379
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:10,159
realize why, you know, what my problem is with him,

1380
01:25:10,199 --> 01:25:13,560
and to to accept it, because you know, a lot

1381
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:16,560
of a lot of those friends don't like some of

1382
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:19,239
the people that I associate with. So I mean, it's

1383
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:23,199
we'll just be adults, you know. You know, it's different

1384
01:25:23,199 --> 01:25:24,640
when you know me and you can just reach out

1385
01:25:24,680 --> 01:25:26,760
to me and go, hey, what's going on? M And

1386
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:29,079
if you're some when you're summing non on Twitter, who

1387
01:25:29,079 --> 01:25:35,079
goes you're acting like a Jew? That means you're Jewish.

1388
01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:35,680
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1389
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:39,239
Speaker 1: So all right, we've been going. We've been going for

1390
01:25:39,279 --> 01:25:41,840
a while here. You have you have anything, I mean,

1391
01:25:42,119 --> 01:25:42,760
We talked.

1392
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:44,600
Speaker 2: About a lot of ship here that probably can get

1393
01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:45,399
us in trouble.

1394
01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 1: But you know, I mean whatever. I guess that's my

1395
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:51,760
life now, but my life for a while.

1396
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:57,039
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm untouchable at this point. I'm a buoyant podcaster.

1397
01:25:57,399 --> 01:25:58,960
Nobody cares anymore.

1398
01:26:00,399 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 2: I do. I wait for every episode drop.

1399
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:08,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know it was funny. I was preparing. I

1400
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:10,840
hope not to extend this too long, but I was

1401
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:13,520
preparing to talk to you a little bit about some

1402
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:15,279
of your Mystery Babylon.

1403
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 2: Stuff, because that's yet I'm waiting.

1404
01:26:19,159 --> 01:26:21,319
Speaker 3: You've not listened to any of this series yet.

1405
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:23,840
Speaker 1: I have not listened to any of the series. Okay,

1406
01:26:23,960 --> 01:26:26,680
you's one of those ones. I'm waiting on you.

1407
01:26:28,439 --> 01:26:30,560
Speaker 3: What's very interesting about it? And you will pick on

1408
01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:32,680
what I very quickly. So I expected DM from you

1409
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:34,880
when you pick up on it, because you will. But

1410
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:38,399
I guess I'll say it out here for all of

1411
01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:40,720
the good in the mystery. But and okay, so the

1412
01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:43,079
Mystery Babylon theory. For those who don't know, you can

1413
01:26:43,119 --> 01:26:44,960
go to my patreon. You can go to the Timeline

1414
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:47,800
Earth patreon. Pause, my co host and I are doing

1415
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:51,159
a forty episode series where we listened through the forty

1416
01:26:51,199 --> 01:26:54,880
two episode Bill Cooper, who was a conspiracy theorist radio

1417
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:59,199
show host who did a forty something episode series on

1418
01:26:59,239 --> 01:27:01,359
a theory he called Miss Babylon. The long and short

1419
01:27:01,359 --> 01:27:04,079
of it is, it's the grand conspiracy about how all

1420
01:27:04,079 --> 01:27:06,479
of the modern secret societies that you can name have

1421
01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:09,920
a singular origin point in the Babylonian mystery religion. There's

1422
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:11,680
a lot more nuance to it than that. It's very

1423
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:13,760
fascinating him and we are going through it. It's like

1424
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:16,239
two hours an episode. Sometimes we spend on doing this,

1425
01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:18,520
and I like to bring a lot of context to it.

1426
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:21,159
And one thing that I'm noticing, and I just did

1427
01:27:21,159 --> 01:27:25,760
a literal case insensitive search through the entire four hundred

1428
01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:30,520
and nine page transcript of the Mystery Babylon thing, Sabatai

1429
01:27:31,039 --> 01:27:37,880
Zevi Jacob Frank never mentioned even once in the entire thing.

1430
01:27:39,239 --> 01:27:41,840
And so I'm looking at this and I'm going, well,

1431
01:27:42,439 --> 01:27:45,359
it's very interesting that that's not in there. And that's

1432
01:27:45,399 --> 01:27:46,720
what I wanted to talk to you about. And I'm

1433
01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:48,640
glad that we managed to get some of that in there,

1434
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:52,680
because I don't understand how a good faith actor can

1435
01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:56,319
possibly talk about a group like the Nazari Assassins, the

1436
01:27:56,359 --> 01:28:03,000
Afghan Rashania, the Freemasons, the Gnostics, the Rosicrucians, the Skull

1437
01:28:03,079 --> 01:28:06,760
and Bones, and at no point are the Sabotans or

1438
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:10,000
the Frankests mentioned. I mean, we talk about the Templars,

1439
01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:13,800
we talk about the Nights of Malta, we talk about

1440
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:17,159
all of the secret societies that you could possibly expect,

1441
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:20,800
and there are glaring omissions. Now I hope that that's

1442
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:24,079
not an anti advertisement for the show, because the theory

1443
01:28:24,119 --> 01:28:27,760
in general is very fascinating. But it's really interesting when

1444
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:32,479
you consider that Bill mister Cooper was a god among

1445
01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:35,760
the militia movement in the United States, and it was

1446
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:39,600
probably a multiple times called an anti Semite, among other racist,

1447
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:42,600
among all other things, and none of this stuff even appears.

1448
01:28:43,359 --> 01:28:45,720
And I just thought that was very interesting. So when

1449
01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:49,119
you go into the series, expect to not hear that,

1450
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:51,720
because that is something that only occurred to me recent.

1451
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:55,000
I was going, wait, we've done fifteen episodes, probably thirty

1452
01:28:55,119 --> 01:28:57,760
hours of content already available to you if you go

1453
01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:01,479
to that Patreon and you subscribe about thirty hours of content,

1454
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:06,119
no mention of that. Plenty of mentions against the Catholic Church,

1455
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:10,680
plenty of mentions against various forms of Islam, and no

1456
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:14,079
mention of that at all. So it's something that occurred

1457
01:29:14,119 --> 01:29:15,600
to me and I was wondering your thoughts. But if

1458
01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:17,720
you haven't listened to it yet, now, I'm very interested

1459
01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:19,279
as we continue to go through it. When you do

1460
01:29:19,359 --> 01:29:21,960
get to it, to give me your thoughts on it, because,

1461
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:25,159
like I say, the theory is very interesting and presents

1462
01:29:25,199 --> 01:29:28,039
a lot of good context for what's going on with

1463
01:29:28,159 --> 01:29:32,039
various secret societies and their motivations. Ultimately, I'm willing to

1464
01:29:32,119 --> 01:29:38,199
believe that there is a massive and extremely powerful depopulationist

1465
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:45,159
communist society that, even though they're disparate and fight amongst themselves,

1466
01:29:45,159 --> 01:29:48,119
sometimes they all have a singular goal of a new

1467
01:29:48,159 --> 01:29:50,840
world order. I am willing to believe that. But it

1468
01:29:50,920 --> 01:29:54,840
was funny to hear some of the omissions. So you

1469
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:58,319
can join us on this journey, dear listeners. For the

1470
01:29:58,359 --> 01:30:01,199
price of a slice of pizza, they're getting very expensive.

1471
01:30:02,199 --> 01:30:04,720
You can join me and pause as we go through

1472
01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:07,479
this whole theory. Know what you'll hear, know what you

1473
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:10,399
won't hear, but you will hear a lot of very

1474
01:30:10,520 --> 01:30:14,279
interesting things that give you a lot of context, for instance,

1475
01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:16,760
the Bush family, a lot of things that I learned,

1476
01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:20,760
for instance, a lot of great context on the founding fathers.

1477
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:23,560
And if you don't believe Bill, and you don't believe me,

1478
01:30:24,119 --> 01:30:27,319
that's tough. You can check the sources. The federal government

1479
01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:31,760
has entire articles about how George Washington performed a free

1480
01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:36,039
Masonic ceremony at the foundation stone of the Capitol Building.

1481
01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:39,600
And there's plenty of sources for how Benjamin Franklin's hole

1482
01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:43,840
capturing lightning was a Promethean ritual. They talk about this

1483
01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:47,319
in the Federal government, and so not to distract too

1484
01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:50,239
much from our conversation today, which I think is very important,

1485
01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:55,279
but I am a multi factionalist. I do believe that

1486
01:30:55,359 --> 01:30:58,560
there are a number of christ hating factions in the

1487
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:01,600
world that viy for power and for the extinction of

1488
01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:04,760
Christ and his message and his church. And some of

1489
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:08,079
those groups also call themselves Christian for what it's worth,

1490
01:31:08,239 --> 01:31:11,760
because it's to destroy the church. Once you destroy the church,

1491
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:15,079
then there is nothing. It doesn't matter how many disparate

1492
01:31:15,119 --> 01:31:18,560
individuals there are. As you see, American Protestantism is in

1493
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:20,960
the state that it's in no offense to my American

1494
01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:23,319
Protestant friends. I'm sure many of you agree with me.

1495
01:31:24,399 --> 01:31:27,279
You kind of see that there is a multi factional

1496
01:31:28,159 --> 01:31:31,199
approach here. So we talked about one faction on this show.

1497
01:31:31,199 --> 01:31:35,039
Today on Mystery Babylon we talk about another faction. You

1498
01:31:35,039 --> 01:31:37,840
can judge for yourself the relationships between those two and

1499
01:31:37,880 --> 01:31:41,720
the others. I also think Radical Islam is a genuine faction,

1500
01:31:42,159 --> 01:31:44,720
I really do. I think that's a genuine power faction

1501
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:47,239
that wants to destroy us. And so there's lots of

1502
01:31:47,279 --> 01:31:49,720
different factions there, and we cover them all in what

1503
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:52,760
will amount to a forty something episode series on the

1504
01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:55,359
Patreon that you can go and listen to fifteen episodes

1505
01:31:55,359 --> 01:31:58,439
of right Now PAS and I release them every Sunday

1506
01:31:58,720 --> 01:32:01,760
between noon and for you to listen to after you

1507
01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:04,479
get out of church or maybe you're preparing for the

1508
01:32:04,520 --> 01:32:07,920
following workday. There's plenty of content there, So Pete, I'm

1509
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:10,439
very excited for you to listen to it, because I

1510
01:32:10,479 --> 01:32:12,720
think I do want to do an episode with you

1511
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:15,279
when you get through parts of it, because I know

1512
01:32:15,359 --> 01:32:18,119
you'll rage at it and you'll bring you know, you'll

1513
01:32:18,159 --> 01:32:21,039
bring your knowledge to it that will add something that

1514
01:32:21,079 --> 01:32:23,119
we don't have, So I look forward to that, and

1515
01:32:23,159 --> 01:32:25,560
I look forward to your listeners joining us on that

1516
01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:28,319
journey too. In fact, the last time that I plugged

1517
01:32:28,319 --> 01:32:32,079
this on your show, it was a massive jump in

1518
01:32:32,159 --> 01:32:34,520
people who were engaging with it. So a lot of

1519
01:32:34,520 --> 01:32:37,680
your people are coming in already and are engaging with

1520
01:32:37,720 --> 01:32:40,079
the content, and I really I welcome more, not just

1521
01:32:40,119 --> 01:32:43,199
because you know, I like the subscription money, but also

1522
01:32:43,279 --> 01:32:47,039
because I think this conversation has opened up people's eyes

1523
01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:50,399
to at least one of Bill's great principles with it,

1524
01:32:50,439 --> 01:32:55,079
which is the esoteric and the exoteric distinction that elites

1525
01:32:55,520 --> 01:32:58,199
tell us one thing and do something else. Now it's

1526
01:32:58,279 --> 01:32:59,880
very obvious when you say it in a short act

1527
01:33:00,359 --> 01:33:03,239
like that, but the whole point of the series is

1528
01:33:03,319 --> 01:33:08,560
doing that exact principal analysis over forty something episodes in

1529
01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:11,520
various different factions, and by the time that we get

1530
01:33:11,560 --> 01:33:13,800
to the end of it, will be masters at decoding

1531
01:33:14,079 --> 01:33:17,199
what they're saying versus what they're doing. So that's what

1532
01:33:17,279 --> 01:33:19,920
I present to your listeners as a reason to listen.

1533
01:33:22,439 --> 01:33:25,039
Speaker 1: Well, I will say this. I was looking over on

1534
01:33:25,079 --> 01:33:29,359
my one of my bookshelves where I have Russian history.

1535
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:35,640
I have a couple books there that cover Russian history

1536
01:33:35,640 --> 01:33:37,680
from the nineteen oh five Revolution.

1537
01:33:37,439 --> 01:33:41,439
Speaker 2: All the way up through World War Two. And yeah,

1538
01:33:41,880 --> 01:33:46,600
there's a certain group that's not mentioned anywhere.

1539
01:33:46,239 --> 01:33:48,000
Speaker 3: In it really interesting.

1540
01:33:48,119 --> 01:33:53,399
Speaker 1: So yeah, this is uh, this is not uncommon, whether

1541
01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:58,640
by you know, whether on purpose or whether it's just

1542
01:34:00,039 --> 01:34:02,159
you know, it's like doctor Matthew RFL Johnson says.

1543
01:34:02,199 --> 01:34:03,520
Speaker 2: He says, you can go.

1544
01:34:03,439 --> 01:34:08,560
Speaker 1: Through your whole college career and no one will address

1545
01:34:09,479 --> 01:34:13,720
No one in academia will address this. So people can

1546
01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:17,079
come out and become journalists and become writers, and they

1547
01:34:17,079 --> 01:34:21,479
can write books and they just don't know. They haven't

1548
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:27,199
learned about this. It's been kept from them. And yeah,

1549
01:34:27,279 --> 01:34:32,399
I've taken to saying that until you're willing to deal

1550
01:34:32,479 --> 01:34:36,560
with this one group, I don't think you can understand

1551
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:42,039
the last two thousand years of history. It's like it's

1552
01:34:42,159 --> 01:34:47,760
opening it's the master keys opening up a really good understanding.

1553
01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:49,479
Even if you don't believe that it's all.

1554
01:34:49,560 --> 01:34:52,600
Speaker 2: You know, they orchestrated this whole.

1555
01:34:52,359 --> 01:34:57,239
Speaker 1: Everything for the last two thousand years. You can't understand

1556
01:34:57,439 --> 01:35:02,199
European history without knowing that, especially European history. You cannot

1557
01:35:02,279 --> 01:35:05,760
understand European history without knowing that this group exists and

1558
01:35:06,319 --> 01:35:09,720
the actions and actions that they took, places they were

1559
01:35:10,239 --> 01:35:12,800
and places they were invited into, because I'm not going

1560
01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:15,319
to let people off the hook for you know, especially

1561
01:35:15,319 --> 01:35:16,359
at Lee two or like.

1562
01:35:16,319 --> 01:35:18,399
Speaker 2: Oh these people can make us money, we need.

1563
01:35:18,279 --> 01:35:20,800
Speaker 1: To invite them in, and then they drag in another

1564
01:35:20,840 --> 01:35:26,199
five or six thousand with them, you know. So yeah,

1565
01:35:26,439 --> 01:35:30,720
there's plenty of books that I've read where they're not mentioned.

1566
01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:38,800
And whether whether it's deliberate, which you know, most of

1567
01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:41,760
the Amphibians will say, oh, that's just completely deliberate, or

1568
01:35:41,800 --> 01:35:46,600
whether these people just don't don't know, they were never taught,

1569
01:35:46,720 --> 01:35:49,560
they were never taught to look for this. You know,

1570
01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:53,439
it's just another group. It's just another group of it's

1571
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:56,800
just another group, you know, just like the French, and

1572
01:35:56,960 --> 01:35:59,239
just like the Germans, and just like the Spanish or

1573
01:35:59,279 --> 01:36:04,199
something like that. Then, yeah, I try to get people

1574
01:36:04,199 --> 01:36:07,560
the benefit of the doubt until you know, especially people

1575
01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:11,119
that I can like interact with on my own, I'll

1576
01:36:11,119 --> 01:36:12,960
give them the benefit of the doubt until I see

1577
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:13,600
their reaction.

1578
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:16,560
Speaker 2: Let's you see their reaction, you can.

1579
01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:21,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's very important that as intelligent people,

1580
01:36:21,319 --> 01:36:23,600
whether we have an ability to change anything or not.

1581
01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:27,560
It's important that people stay informed about any number of

1582
01:36:27,720 --> 01:36:31,119
power factions in the world whose actions will have an

1583
01:36:31,159 --> 01:36:33,600
effect on their day to day life, or at the

1584
01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:37,079
very least on the country that they live in. All

1585
01:36:37,119 --> 01:36:40,680
of the factions, for me, not just one, all of them,

1586
01:36:40,880 --> 01:36:43,960
and we try to cover that on that program. And

1587
01:36:44,359 --> 01:36:47,960
there is one notable omission, but other than that, I

1588
01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:49,279
really do think we hit the mark.

1589
01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:53,439
Speaker 1: Awesome all right, men, we'll talk a little bit off

1590
01:36:53,479 --> 01:36:56,520
air about what I wanted to ask you, so sure,

1591
01:36:57,760 --> 01:37:00,640
Thank you, I appreciate you to give this, and yeah,

1592
01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:02,119
I talk to you soon. You can have me on

1593
01:37:02,199 --> 01:37:03,279
Timeline Earth anytime.

1594
01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:07,119
Speaker 3: I got a message for you. I'm writing something up.

1595
01:37:07,159 --> 01:37:29,399
I got a plan all right later minute