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Speaker 2: Thank you. So is it true that nothing ever happens?
Speaker 3: I don't know anymore. It seems like Donald Trump made
things happen for an hour one or two hours of
time and now there's nothing ever happens again.
Speaker 1: Do you think there's anything hiding in the background that
we you know, being done in the background that we
just don't know about, or you know, is that cope
as the as the kids like to say today.
Speaker 3: There's a lot. Yeah, I think there's a lot, a
lot being done in the background, that's for sure. I'm
getting word from some of my Actually you're in the chat,
you know, I'm getting word from one of my friends
that a guy who works in the Air Force just
got called up to be ready for anything in case
this are on negotiation falls through. Just sounds like there's
a lot going on in the background or not allowed
to talk about.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, do you think that obviously there are
competing factions in our government? I mean when I look
at like I was mentioning today that maybe we can
talk about this is Ukraine tried to assassinate Putin today.
Apparently he was in a helicopter flying to the course
Greege and they say owns that they sent drones at
the helicopter and they were able to shoot them all down,
but you know, some got pretty close. And one thing
that I know about Russia, is that Putin is not
Putin's not a hardliner compared to some of the people
in that government. There are people in that government who
if they decide to and this would be very Russian historically,
I mean historically you've seen this. Putin will get a
bullet and they'll tell us that you know, Putin had
a heart attack and he died, and a hard line
or will take over.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm wondering what the I don't understand the point
of assassinating Putin. I never have. Do they imagine that
would that would wind down the war, the need, the
desire for war.
Speaker 1: No, My opinion is is that that the people who
are doing the people who are running this are the EU,
City of London, World Economic Forum and certain ethnic groups
within that are still within our government and still have
power in the United States. So this is what they want.
They want this war to go on. They want they
I think they know that if Putin, if they were
to kill Putin, the hardliners in Russia will just accelerate
this and don't I don't think they care who wins this.
They just want these people to kill each other's basically,
that's what they've been saying. Since the beginning of this war.
I have a book around here who has some quotes
that were floating around in the beginning, and one of
them was, I mean, it's like, this is great. You know,
we can just basically use Ukrainians to take out Russians.
And you know, that's the whole purpose of this war is,
in my opinion and in the opinion of many others,
is to get them to kill each other.
Speaker 2: The thing that.
Speaker 3: They're you're saying, the purpose of the war as it's
being waged from the perspective of the groups you just named.
Speaker 1: Yes, is to get is to escalate this. Now, whether
they want a nuclear they want they want one side
or the other to go nuclear, which would probably be Russia,
that is to be that that you can only speculate
upon that. But I mean, I think these people are
insane enough that they would they would see that as
some kind of win, as some kind of oh, look,
we've proved the Russians are they're so bloodthirsty that they
need to be destroyed. And they also get to kill
some Christians in Ukraine at the same time, So I mean,
why not.
Speaker 3: So I'm with you there, and I'll tell you something
in doing TL we cover the news, and I have
determined and determined long ago that the whole subject of
the the who I don't even know what are we
calling it? The war in Ukraine? What are we calling it?
What's the official name for? What? Were actually the military
action that Russia's performing in Ukraine.
Speaker 2: Special military operations and that kind of ship.
Speaker 3: It's not news. And because of that I kind of
sat back on it and haven't paid too much attention
until the connection was made for me that from from
where I see the whole the coalition of the willing
thing was the thing that kind of perked my eyes
back up because it was so stupid of an idea.
It could never have worked, the idea that people were
riding with that somehow now the United States would distance
itself from this conflict and its client states, the EU
and France and maybe Germany would pick it up and
deal with it. It was the stupidest thing I'd ever heard,
and I determined that it was none of it was
all bluster because all three of the people involved in that,
that being Stormer and Macron and is it Schultz, well
they all, I mean, the whole government in Germany has
terrible terrible support. All of them are in dramatic lows
in their public support. And my view of the continuation
of this war, especially in that latter phase when Trump
came in and these quote negotiations began, was that all
of the bluster was just to preserve their domestic support
in their individual various countries. So I never actually thought
about the external reasoning for why the war would need
to continue. Now you tell me it's because they want
the two groups to to kill one another. And forgive
me if this is something you've covered on your show
a lot, But seriously, I almost religiously avoid this type
of news because I don't find it so uninteresting. But
now I'm interested because we're talking about it. What is
the external reasoning beyond them killing one another? What is
the like? Where does the money lead to? What's the
who benefits? I mean, who benefits from this?
Speaker 1: Okay, so after the fall of the Soviet Union? Are
you how's your nineteen nineties Russian history?
Speaker 3: I have no knowledge, But for again, you know what
your listeners have been listening to, so you can spare
them whatever details you've said. Oh and obviously I'll follow along.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll just do a quick outline. Basically, all these
oligarchs took over, These oligarchs were behold into the West.
Speaker 2: These most of.
Speaker 1: These oligarchs were also so just also so happened to
be part of an ethnic an ethnic group, and they
sought to bleed Russia dry. When you say yeah, yes,
I'm talking about I'm definitely talking about the Qataris. So
did you get your check yet?
Speaker 3: Did you check them in yet? Because mine's not hasn't
shown up yet.
Speaker 1: I see it in my account for like two weeks
now and it hasn't cleared yet.
Speaker 2: So I'm I'm.
Speaker 1: Wondering, just like an Arab Yeah, yeah, it's real bad.
But the they basically sought to destroy the country.
Speaker 2: And like one of the.
Speaker 1: One of the figures that Scott Horton talks about all
the time is like the the average life span of
a male dropped by twelve years because it was it
was a time when we couldn't get good food, it
was dangerous in the country, and basically it had become
it was really like a one of those colonies where
everything that you have that it's like like a lot
of people would describe an African nation when Westerners go
in there, and they just start raping the resources and
pulling them all out of the pulling them all out.
Speaker 2: Of the country.
Speaker 1: And you just pay a very very small group that
has power within the country to allow you to do this.
But they know that they're going to It's pretty much
what happened. So Putin. Putin comes in and he puts
a stop to that. There's actually video footage of him
going into these large companies and going this is what
you're going to do now, this is I mean like
forcefully telling them everything has changed and now you're working
for your country again. And they don't like that because
that means they lost. That means that somebody defeated them,
and they've been trying to basically destroy him and he's
been literally Hitler or the second Hitler whatever ever since,
So you know they Another thing is is they have
taken over Ukraine. Ukraine is very resource rich black soil.
Also accusations, I'm not going to say of vast human trafficking,
hearing numbers that you know, blonde hair, blue eyed slaves
go for fifty to one hundred thousand on the open market,
and you know they had a good thing going Barisma
American Americans sending their kids over there to have no
show jobs and to collect you one hundred thousand dollars
a month, and will putin invading and you know, and
while they're doing this, they're killing ethnic Russians who live
in the east of the in the east of the
country and putin you know, putting out a lot more
self control than I did. That's when he decided to
go in there and put a stop to this. But
I think he from the beginning thought that this was
going to be sort of a cake walk. I don't
think he counted on basically all of Europe supporting turning
around to support Ukraine, including the United States, including the
United States operators who have gone over there and died
fighting against against Russians. There's another theory that doctor Matthew
Rafael Johnson has has put out Odessa has the city
of Odessa place in that area, has more Katari mosques
than any than like all of Guitar put together.
Speaker 2: You understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Of course, yes, I've been around the block people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you understand what I'm saying. Let's let the listener
understand and that he they were looking for another place
in the world to call their own and doctor doctor
THRFL Johnson calls it the new Kataria. Let's call it
that it would be the new Kataria. And they didn't
think they thought that this would be you know, if
Putin did this, that it would be easy to defeed him.
And this thing's been going on for a while now
and I think they may have been given up on
the New Kataria, but who knows if, but they're I
think they're very happy to see Christians on one side
killing Christians on another side. And you know, that's probably
over a million total from both sides. And I think
they what they think is is if they escalate, if
this can be escalated, if they can put if they
can you know, assassinate Putin, then the you know, the
hardliners are going to do something to initiate that the
world will not be able to put up with and
they'll have to put a stop to this, and then
they can get what they want again. They get a
weaker Russia, which is what they want so that they
can go in there and continue the raping that they
started in the nineteen nineties. And they also get they
also get Ukraine, which you know, the only thing that
was standing in the way of having Ukraine was the
fact that there was all these ethnic Russians that were
in there, and that Putin had controlled certain ports within
the country. So that's what that's how I see this
is my interpretation. If someone asked me to sit down
and give them my explanation as to what's happening and
why this is happening and the forces behind it, then
you know, that's that's what I would say, and that's
what makes it That's what makes it interesting to me.
That's why I I see it as news because it
could also because this is something that I think could
very easily escalate to I'm not saying intercontinental ballistics. I'm
talking about, you know, some localized nuclear nuclear targets to
basically say back the hell off. And I don't think
that these people will back the hell off. I think
that they would push it as far as they can,
and if those nukes were to drop, then you would
have the whole world, as they've done before, to try
and destroy, to basically destroy one country, would come together
and seek to destroy Russia, you know, forever.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: I'm not under the impression that Donald Trump's actually interested
in ending the war but I wonder what your opinion
is on why he's taken such a hostile stance towards
Zolensky and that regime. Is he out of step with
this plan or is this part of the plan.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't think I have a tendency to what I
think is happening. Is the same thing that's happening in
Russia and happening in a lot of other different countries.
Is that you have differing elite factions who are struggling
to get him to do what they want. Some weeks,
it seems like the faction that is more pro technology
and pro America and pro and I'm not saying pro
America because they love Americans, but they love what they
get when America is prosperous on his own. These are
I think those people are trying to get him to,
you know, tell net and Yahoo to go screw himself,
and to try to get him to disconnect from Ukraine
and their enemy. This group's enemy seems to be China,
so to more do like a Pacific pivot, so that
you're you're looking over there. And then you have the
old ethnic factions that are wanting to have war with Iran,
and you know, you know the politicians that they own
your Lindsey Graham's and you're Tom Cotton's people like that,
and then you have you know, there's another faction that
is I think is just completely technology based, and they
just they're like, look, we just want the rains taken off.
We don't care about Israel. We actually do business in Israel.
We don't care about Russia. We actually do business in Russia.
China we'd like to have a better relationship with because
we do make a lot of money there. And I
think those guys are they actually get some wins here
along the way. I think that's a lot of what
Doge was. But I also think Doze was the previous
group or the first group I talked about too. And
what I would think is if Donald Trump didn't have
all of these warring factors. People like to call Donald
Trump a Qatarist.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, which I waiver on yeah, And I don't
think that he is.
Speaker 1: I think he is somebody who likes Qatar. He likes Qatar, existing,
he likes Qatar.
Speaker 3: He even likes the Katardnik Party, but he he doesn't
like who's the main party the main which is what
I wonder, how is that guy even still in power?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, if you I think the way he's
in power is one he has a you know, he
has the military behind him, and he probably probably more
than the military, he probably has this intelligence forces behind him.
But I think that he also has scared enough of
his you know, basically, there's this whole history of fear
mongering that goes back in more than two thousand years,
but you know, especially the last two thousand years of
everybody wants to kill us, everybody every everybody's jealous of
us and wants to kill us, and you know, and
they hate us and you know, we're special boys and
everything like that.
Speaker 3: And classic Katari paranoia narcissism.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so I think that, you know, he has
a lot of those people on his side, but there's
also people in Qatar who don't like him and they
want him gone. And there's people in this country. There's
Kataris in this country who want him gone, and there's
Guitaris in this country who will do anything to support him. So,
you know, this is a lot more complicated than a
lot of the a lot of the people on Twitter
who if you disagree with him, they run around just
telling you say Amphibian Katari. Yeah, Amphibians, they tell you
you're Katari. This is a lot more. There's a lot
more at play here. So it makes it very easy
to just run around as anyone who disagrees with you,
you just call him a Katari.
Speaker 3: You know, Mexicans can have a low IQ on occasion,
so sometimes you.
Speaker 1: Think, yeah, well yeah, so push them along. You not
only have Katar, you not only have their their occupation
of Washington, d C. And they're insane lobby here, but
you also have they control the city of London, and
they have a lot of throughout the EU. They have
a lot of a lot of influence. I'm not saying
they have all the influence. I'm saying that they control
a lot of influence because they control a lot of wealth.
And I also think they have a lot of information
on people.
Speaker 3: Yeah right, I don't like the cosmic Qatariism certainly you
see crop up in the Amphibians, but yeah, it certainly
is one of the major power factions because of its
its capital, its ability to move capital.
Speaker 1: Well, also it's information. I mean, you know, we had
an ethnic Katari in this country, that was running a
you know, a child a child sex traffic ring. You
know who you know apparently killed himself in prison, killed
himself into Manhattan.
Speaker 3: Well that's what Dan Bongino says, and so that's what
I believe.
Speaker 2: He says that he just killed himself, right, just committed suicide.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the very and of course the very trustworthy
as pattack. What's the guy's name. I don't even remember
the guy's name. I honestly don't remember that. Yeah, sure
that that's probably not his name, the Motel Magnet. It's absurd.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this is so convoluted, which is why
you know, I've taken to saying this isn't gonna You
can't fix this. The only thing you can do is
you you can hope that in some this is all
coming down one of these days. Now, you know, as
Thomas says, it could be one hundred hundred and fifty
years from now. This could have gone for another fifty years.
There were people who were saying Rome was falling one
hundred to one hundred and fifty years before it fell,
and it kept going and kept going, right, Yeah, and
you know, so this is going to fall one day.
But it's not going to be tomorrow, and that means
you have to survive, and that means you also have
to provide for the people, and you have to set
up the people who come after you. So you want
things to be at least a little bit better, which
is why my big concentration is listening. It's people like
Tom Luwongo who talks about things that are improving financially
so that you can gather wealth to yourself, help people
that you know, gather wealth to themselves so that they
can survive this and we can go into the future,
you know, equipped what the things we will need when things
get bad, and they will get bad. I mean, I
honestly think that there is there will be civil war
in the future in this country. I don't think it's
going to be this vast civil war where the whole
country is fighting with each other. I think it's gonna
be certain parts, there'll be different locations. But I mean,
I just think that's inevitable because you know, the left
will if Trump does not destroy all of our enemies,
and that's completely assuming he's not our enemy, then if
he doesn't destroy all of our enemies on the left
or regime, you know people who who are down with
what the regime has been for the last you know,
one hundred years, then they will be back in power
one day. And when they get back in power one day,
if you think they targeted Catholics for praying outside of
abortion clinics and putting people in jail for you know,
a decade, trying to put people in jail for a
decade for you know, touring the Capitol building, then just
wait for the next time they get in power.
Speaker 3: And so like I okay, So my and my final
question on this is we can move on. We could
keep going because it is it is interesting.
Speaker 1: But you're doing a really good job of being America's
greatest news man because you're asking me questions you've actually
well and you're you're just asking questions to me, which
is what what you know, the world's greatest news man would.
Speaker 3: That's what I do best. Yeah, I'm also one of
the world's greatest interviewers as far as I understand. So
they say, erdo You're so good at asking basic questions
and I usually like to nod and say thank you.
It's a talent that I have. The Only thing that
I really don't understand now that you've you've laid it out,
and I think your case makes perfect sense to me.
But why are why is America's attention being split between
what's going on in Ukraine and what's going on in Gaza.
If it's a related faction that's behind the continuation of
both things or the completion of one. I think they
want to complete the Goaza thing at this point. Maybe
they don't, that's you can tell me. But why would
they split America's attention in this way? When don't you
think it would be more effective to hold off on
one and allow for the other, or are both concurrently occurring?
Is that intentional?
Speaker 1: Well, if they can do both at the same time
while making people believe that they're completely unrelated. If people
thought and when I say people, I'm talking about you know, elites,
people who have the power to actually change things, and
you know, I mean, I know people who study both
of these conflicts who don't see that they're related, who
think that they're completely separated from each other, which I don't.
But if you can convince people that they're completely unrelated,
and you have going back and forth, and you have
them going back and forth between one and the other,
First of all, it keeps you off kilter, It keeps
you it takes you off of your center. And second
of all, it makes you feel like you're either have
to choose one or the other, or choose none or
choose none of them. But the one that they've I
think they've given up on trying to convince most Americans
that the that you know, Putin and Ukraine is the
most important one. So you have to basically they basically
have to say, well, you know they can use October
seventh as a rallying cry, as a sort of proxy
nine to eleven to be like, wow, those are that's that.
Qatar is our greatest ally right And you know they
went over there and they raped babies and they bayoneted babies,
and you know they had a human it behead them
and yeah, yeah ovens they turned them into food and
cooked them in ovens and everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they ate them.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: That seems to me that the one you're going to
push for, push harder, because then you can the propaganda
can work on more people. Now I don't think, I think.
Speaker 3: But you see how the left and the right in
America are sort of separated in their support of one
or the other. And when I say right, you know
what I mean by that. I'm not talking about our people.
I'm talking about people who occupy the space called the right.
They swear that they're on the right, and it does
seem like that group it wants to wrap up on
this Ukraine conflict, and then it seems like the people
on the left want to wrap up on the Gaza conflict.
And instead of the magnifying lens focusing the two beams
of light into one thing, it seems like it's splitting
America's support, which doesn't seem like a wise Katari strategy.
I get what you're saying that they don't associate them
with one another, but it does seem like one of
those operations is certainly going to fail in the near future.
I think, which is what's going on in Ukraine and
the other one may succeed. What's what's going on in
Goza may succeed because Trump seems to be down with it.
But why would they split the attention, or I should say,
why wouldn't they make them one thing so as to
unify that left and right.
Speaker 1: I think people have a more emotional tie to Qatar
than they do to Russia and Ukraine because that's.
Speaker 3: Yeah, people, people beyond Qataris in the United States, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I agree with Kataris have made some of people's you know,
favorite music, favorite movies run Hollywood. You know, shows like
Seinfeld where you have an ethnic.
Speaker 3: Ar they gave he key.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so.
Speaker 1: You basically have done a really good job of convincing
people that, you know, these these guitaris over here, you know,
they're they're the good people. Now, since katar took over,
there were so many Kataris in education and in academia.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Famously, in nineteen it was nineteen sixty eight, I was
reading in the book Harold Saltzman book. He said that
there were sixty thousand public school teachers in New York
and sixty percent of them were ethnic Kataris. So they've
had control of education for a very long time. And unfortunately,
what a lot of them have done is is they've
pushed a very liberal, leftist kind.
Speaker 2: Of worldview out there.
Speaker 1: You know, white people are oppressors, white people are colonizers,
and the right, people who are inclined to the right,
they look at that and the as bullshit. But people
on the left are like, yes, yes, these people are colonizers.
Just look at South Africa. Look what they did in
South Africa, and then they basically have what they didn't
count on was you. They look at Qatar and they
see that, oh wow, these these Kataris seem to be
doing the same thing to the Palestinians that you know
that the South Africans did to the blacks down there.
So they're actually you.
Speaker 3: Had such a good tweet about that, and I'm sure
you know which one I'm referring to. Can you can
you dispel this myth? Because I was under the impression
what you were talking about was a valid comparison, the
comparison of what is going on to the Gozens with
what was going on to the South Africans. Why is
that not a valid comparison.
Speaker 1: It's not a valid comparison because when the South Africa,
when when the Dutch and the and the white Europeans
move to South Africa, there were no blacks there, and
the few blacks that were there were there were they
just lived there.
Speaker 3: Well ki the Koissan blacks. And you saw Malema and
his people being interviewed and going, well, the Bores came here,
uh and they colonized this land. And then the guy goes,
you mean Bantu land, and he goes, no, no, the Koisson.
But but South Africa is a Bantu country. So it's
funny how they they sort of just they don't care
about the Koisson either. This is just part of the line.
Is it's really just anti white. They don't they've never
thought about the Koisson. They're like trees to those people.
Speaker 1: Right, So you know, the whites, the whites basically started
to im South African whites started to import and allow
blacks from the outside to move into South Africa and
they employed them. And that's different than this myth that
the Qataris sell that, oh, a land without a people
for a people without a land. When the Kataris started
moving to to.
Speaker 2: Qatar, they.
Speaker 1: Displaced a people seven hundred and fifty thousand and one year,
and then they kept a small group there around them.
Speaker 2: In my personal opinion.
Speaker 1: Because the Kataris are a people who always have to
be seen as the victim. That's one of their power.
One of their powers is that they always have to
be seen as the victim.
Speaker 3: So by parting dialectic that they set up in those
universities like you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Correct, And so if you keep these people around and
you abuse them every once in a while, they're going
to fight back. And you can go, look, look these
terrible people. They came and they we came to this
land where no one was there, and they just swarmed
in and you know, they started, you know, and so
they're basically by comparing when you try to compare the
Palestinians to the South Africans, no, the South that you know,
and then you'll have to go through then, you know,
if you want to talk about South Africa and how
it's not a good comparison, you'll have to talk about apartheid.
And was apartheid a great system? You kinda? Yeah, it
kind of worked. Were their abuses, Yeah, there are always abuses.
Were there terrorists among the blacks?
Speaker 2: Yes there were.
Speaker 1: Why then you have to ask, well, why did apartheid
get set up in the first place? Okay, Well maybe
they realized that they couldn't live, they couldn't live completely
as equals with these people, okay.
Speaker 3: The illegal immigrant Bantu. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So.
Speaker 1: Trying to say, trying to compare a people who weren't
in that land when somebody went there and settled it,
but came in afterwards to somebody who was on that land,
who was displaced by the people who came there. And
I'm not going to call the Katari's colonizers or anything
like that. I think that's all bullshit. I think you know,
you you you take everything for you take everything for
what it is. War is, War is in our It's
a part of us. It's not going away.
Speaker 2: Ever. That's why one of the one of the reasons.
Speaker 1: Why people have people have this uh this reaction to
war is because it's like the end of history. What
you know, liberalism one, Why are we even having war?
Why how could a country invade their neighbor. It's like, well,
I mean, that's called history, it's called humanity, it's called
what we do, what we do for what we've been
doing forever. But you know, it's not the same thing
as if you know, people come from you know, two
thousand and three thousand than four thousand miles away and
just take over a land. And I'm not even saying
that that's bad. I'm just saying that if you're going
to do that, don't keep any of them around or
expect that their relatives, or their co ethnics or their
co religionists, if they're around the area, they're probably not
going to be happy about what you just did to them,
even if they don't like them.
Speaker 3: Huh. Yeah. The post colonial dialectic, one of the issues
is that whenever, as an American, one of the issues
is that whenever something bad happens over there, the people
who had happened to come here. So, I mean, at
a very basic level, I'm opposed to ethnic conflicts in
other countries' colonialization because as the world's number one, greatest power,
highest wealth, people come here. So I mean, even at
a very basic nationalist level, I think it's totally unaccepted us,
but especially totally unacceptable that anything happens in the world
that doesn't go through us, which the current leader of
the Katari is seems to be very happy with doing
what he pleases and then allowing us to clean up
after him, and the GOP is happy to follow behind
him and suck his crap up from the ground.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, And you know, I also, you know,
as an American, someone who was born American, someone who
doesn't consider themselves anything other than American. I really, you know,
Katar is not a country that I should even be
aware of. He shouldn't even be on my radar, you know,
much like South Africa shouldn't be on my radar. Yeah,
I mean these are not they have nothing. Sure, maybe
we can trade with them, maybe, you know, maybe we can.
You know, it's like, hey, we're gonna do this sale.
We're gonna we're gonna our merchant ships are going to
go around the cape down there. Can you know, can
we do some kind of deal where you make sure
that no savages come out, you know, stuff like that.
That's how you would know that, you know, Qatar exists
or South South Africa exists. The problem is is that,
you know, after the Second World War, we got globalism
where it was everything, you know, we we got occupation,
we got you know, countries white historically white European countries
are not allowed to be white in European anymore. And
if they are white in European, they have to be
socially engineered out of out of whatever their historic, whatever
their history is. And then if they if they if
they fight back against that, well we're going to flood
their country. We're going to open the mental asylums in
Africa and the Middle East, and we're going to flood
their country with military age men who are you know,
who are not a part and will never be a
part of the culture.
Speaker 3: And Katari.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, that's great. Break the fourth wall for
a second. But yeah, So the people who try to
make this like simple, Oh the Qataris, this is all
about the Qataris. Yeah, you know, here and there, you
know there there are some that are, but there are
more than there are, many thousands upon thousands of white Europeans,
non Qataris that are willing to work with them, who, yeah,
deserve just as much of the blame as the Qataris do. Sure,
we need to know who may be pulling the strings
here and there, where the influence came from, where this
all of that. Sure, but it's more important to know
what the organization is, and it's more important to know who.
It's more important to know where, where they're operating and
how they're operating. You know, you want to at this point,
if they were to kill Putin today, if they were
if that assassination went through, I don't know, if I
was president of the United States, and that meant that
there was a full on basically, and I'm not even
discounting this right now. If I was president of the
United States, I would be making plans to invade mainland
Europe and destroy the EU once and for all, destroy
the w e F, and destroy the city of London.
Speaker 3: As far as I understand, isn't that what Jeron Powell
is trying to do.
Speaker 1: He's doing that financially, He's been doing that financially, and
I think that's one of the reasons Scott Besson was
brought on. Scott Bessont helped to destroy the British Pound
at one point.
Speaker 3: And I think he's one of our guys too. Do
you think that as well or at least amenable to that.
Speaker 1: Well, I think that, you know, this goes back to
one of the things I was going to say earlier
before I easily get sidetracked, is I think these guys
are not working for us. I think they're working for themselves,
and they're working for their interests. But I think that
the Jerome Pal Scott bess In faction, if they were
to win, it would be more beneficial for us than
if any of the other groups one. You know, you
don't it's you know, it's like this thing that libertarians
needs to talk about. Oh you know, if you have
someone who goes out there and becomes a billionaire by
creating this thing, well you know, they did it for
self interest, but maybe that thing, you know, makes your
life easier.
Speaker 3: That's a trick down sort of thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, yeah, yeah, And it's like, okay, well I'm
willing to accept. I'm willing to accept that, you know,
knowing whatever Jerome pal is, knowing Scott Besson as a homo.
I mean this, Yeah, choosing your you know, choosing your
You don't get to choose your end. You don't get
to choose your allies at this point, you know, and
not even saying that they're an ally, that they're working
for you, but you don't get to be like, well,
I hope he fails because he's a homo and what.
Speaker 3: He John Friedman has two children. How do you get
the kids?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, I don't I don't
I don't fucking like it. But what I'm saying is
is that there's what's what's the fucking I mean, we're
literally looking at at like the fucking left getting back
in power, or the City of London still existing and
having control over US and the w e F and
the EU trying to get us into a fucking world war,
possibly with nukes. And I'm like, well, I mean, I'm
gonna root for whoever I can look at and figure out, Okay,
that person, whatever that person wants, would probably benefit me
the best.
Speaker 3: That was my whole justification for trying to go to
bat for Trump. It was just the idea that, yeah,
the alternative is far worse, and I think I still
stand by that. But now that we're one hundred and
what are we one hundred and twenty five days in
or something like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean think about it. Okay, So what Trumps says,
Trump has a faction around him that doesn't like what
the Qataris are doing, and that is.
Speaker 3: The Teal faction. That's what that kind of I.
Speaker 2: Don't even know.
Speaker 1: If I don't know, I'm thinking more along the lines
of I'm convinced that that Jerome Pal faction doesn't like
the po power. Jerome Pal is a seventh generation American.
I think Scott Besson is a ninth generation of America. And
I mean drone Pals like a seventh generation Virginian. I
think that these these wasps who like Colonel McGregor, who
go on Judge Nap Show and are literally naming the
Katari now are I think this is a wasp faction
that realizes we want we controlled this thing at one point,
we want it back. And I think you could even
count Tucker as being a.
Speaker 2: Part of that group.
Speaker 1: And that's that would be the fact, if that is
in fact what they're trying to do. And when I
look at Pale, especially what pal has been doing for
the last four years in weakening the EU, weakening the
euro dollar, you know, weakening the British pound. I mean
the British pound when I was growing up, I mean
all our lives was pegged. It was almost like it
was pegged two dollars, two British pounds to one US dollar.
It's down to one and a quarter. It's down to
one and a quarter now. So Jerome power. And that's
that's all happens since Jerome Palell has been at the
head of the FED. You know, and people talk about, oh,
Jerome Palell and Trump they're always fighting, and they're always
fighting publicly, and they'll say nasty stuff about each other.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: The Trump will say nasty stuff, and then Jerome Palell
just brushed it off and go, can't do anything. I'm
the head of the FED. I do what I want.
Speaker 3: I was going to hear al is Trump's boss, so
he could talk all he wants, you.
Speaker 1: Know, and then you hear Scott Bess and go, I
have lunch with Jerome Powell every Monday morning. Yeah, It's like, oh, okay,
so what's that all about? You know, So I don't
have any hope. Let's put it this way. Let's let's
let me try to, you know, put a bow on
it like this. I don't have any hope that my
enemy is going to be destroyed by this, by this.
Speaker 2: Regime that's in charge right now. I believe that.
Speaker 1: I believe they've been weak in but they were weakened
under Biden. I mean, Pile was doing this when Biden
was president. I think they can be weakened further, but
I don't see them going away because they have, you know, resource,
they have resources that have been built up over centuries.
So you know, I'm basically what I'm hoping for is
I'm hoping for a We're gonna have a bad period,
and then when after a bad period, the hope is
is that we have like a mini Golden Age. And
I know, using the term Golden Age, people will jump
all over that and be like, Pete's just coping. I
don't really care. You're not smarter than I am, all right.
I mean if you if you're one of these people
who goes they control everything, I mean you're you're a
bigger guitarist than they are. Okay, yeah, you think they're
more You think they're more powerful than actually they believe
that they're than they believe. They wouldn't be panicking the
way they're doing if they actually believe that they were
as powerful as you think they are. So I'm just
basically hoping that we have some kind of light at
the end of the tunnel where we have an age
where our guys can concentrate and plan to acquire wealth,
acquire land, build businesses, do things that can last into
the future, so that you can build something to fight
back when the enemy eventually gets back in charge. Because
if you think, I mean we still have voting in
this country in twenty twenty twenty eight, people can be
retarded or they can fix it again, and the enemy
can get back in charge. Okay, well, what would.
Speaker 2: You rather be?
Speaker 1: Would you rather have more wealth or would you rather
be where you are now? Would you rather be wallowing
and saying, oh my god, the Katari's control everything. I
can't do anything, Oh my god. Or would you rather
be busting your ass for the next three and a
half years building up something that is an edifice that
they can't climb over, or that not that they can't
climb over, that they may just pass by because it's
not worth it. Let's pick off somebody, pick off somebody
else who's weaker, because that's coming. If people don't believe
that's coming, they're the ones who are doing the coping.
Speaker 3: I thought it was very interesting now as we get
closer to the day of recording, that there has not
been a significant backlash as far as I've seen, to
the events that occurred outside of the Israeli embassy in
New York, the killing of the two Sorry it wasn't
it was sorry it was d D d C. So
I thought that was very interesting. I did not. I
haven't seen a lot of backlash, but the one thing
I thought was quite interesting. I want to know you're
maybe your deeper thoughts on this will say what what
kind of networks you think this is pulling from? These
two Yaron Leshinsky and I think the other one was
Sarah Milgram, were workers at this at the embassy and
were apparently one of them was a Christian. This might
even be the case that both of them were Christian.
Speaker 1: I haven't really haven't looked at nobody uses. Nobody is
using that term unless it's unless it's as a weapon, because.
Speaker 3: So that's what I'm asking.
Speaker 2: Yes, I keep hearing messianic Jews.
Speaker 3: Mesic Jews. Yes, which Christian term for a Christian? I agree,
I've never heard of it. Now, it's certainly possible. The
name Yarren Lishinsky, who was born in Nuremberg, Germany, doesn't
sound like the name of a Christian usually, I'm willing
to admit it certainly could be. But as far as
I understand, he didn't have a conversion experience, he was
born a Christian. Now, I thought it was very interesting
because it certainly seems an interesting time that one or
two Christians would be gunned down by a quote left
wing nut, Palestine supporting left wing nut at a time
like this. Did did you find that interesting as well?
I think for the reasons you you pick up on
what I'm insinuating about.
Speaker 1: That well, of course, because you know, let's we'll drop
the Katari now. No, yeah, we were doing good. But
of course it seems odd. I mean, Israel has basically
lost the plot Americans. There was a I can't remember
who did it, but it was a mainstream poll service
and the Zero Hedge was reporting on this. That's the
article that I read on my sub stack was less
than less than fifty percent of Americans now support Israel.
Speaker 2: And you know it's.
Speaker 1: Higher among boomers of course. I mean, you know, that's
the biggest age group and generation. But I mean as
far as gen Z and Jen I think it's jen A.
It's like in the gutter, it's it's you.
Speaker 3: Know, yes, they've got an.
Speaker 1: Yeah, less than twenty percent. So yeah, it does seem
odd considering you know, this happens and immediately and you know,
all right, this happens, I'll throw this out there. If
they are dead, if these people even exist, then it's
a really weird time for it to happen. And immediately
what you saw the propaganda was was, look, they're doing
this to Christians too, And it's like, okay, well this
this guy, what was Ili and Gonzalez Elias Rodriguez.
Speaker 3: Okay, same thing, just different yeah, different sounds.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah. If this this guy targeted them knowing
they were Christians outside of a outside of the whatever,
the embassy, the Israeli embassy in DC. No, if this
is all on the up and up, no, he I
assume he thought they were Jews, so doing the whole
Christian Oh, they're killing Christians now, well, sorry, that's not
that doesn't work on me. So I've read I've read
too much Edward Burnetes and Walter Lippmann to it to
fall for this. And I'm sure I still fall for
propaganda all the time. I'm not saying that I'm not.
It's there's some propaganda out there that's actually really good.
But this stuff is just is ham fisted. And so
then they go, oh, well, look they're you know, they
killed them because they were Jews. Well, the left in
this country doesn't care. Yeah, and you know the right
in this country is more apt to care. But you're losing. Yeah,
you're losing them.
Speaker 3: I take you, two thirds of the right care and
that number is dwindling.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I mean they know that they're losing. I mean
there's some I'll just give you this. Some friends of
mine had to hit peace run on them. I'm not
going to say where it is so that I don't
draw attention to this. But they have a group and
they had hit piece run on them. And the first
hit piece was how they were racist, and like leftists
were up in arms, they went crazy over this that
I can't believe that there's this group that's racist, you know,
in twenty twenty five. Well, the second l yeah, the
second hit piece was look what they say about the Jews.
Speaker 3: Right, because when the one doesn't work to move the
right wing against them, that's the.
Speaker 2: Next thing, right, But the thing is and then the.
Speaker 3: Third will be there flourish, which is they're all pedophiles.
That's the third online, that's what they the third thing
they do.
Speaker 1: So when this thing came out and they talked about how,
oh you know, they even platform anti Semites, and I
was mentioned in the article. I don't know why, because
if you would have read the tweet, you would have
seen that I was. I made a whole lot of
sense historical and I was very historical as well. The
left didn't care. The left wasn't up in art. Wasn't
up in arms over this? And that's why you see
Hasbura accounts on Twitter. Now you see people who are
obviously Zionist puppets. You see people with they put beepers
in there. I've seen the beeper, I've seen their name
and everything, and it's like who And you almost when
you see the beeper, you almost think is this our
guys like like trying.
Speaker 3: To And half the time I wonder because some of
our guys do that stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's like, are these are guys? Because do
they think this is really going to who?
Speaker 2: Who is this?
Speaker 1: It's only helping, that's only attracting people or or or
even if it is energizing anyone, it's only energizing people
who already are on your side.
Speaker 3: Well, that one guy who's a member of the who's
a member of the Kabbad of Kentucky, you know what
I'm talking about, And you would think actual Kataris were
running his account. You know, sometimes you look at them
and you go this, you know, you you pull up
the old law that goes every organization, think of every
organization as being run by an enemy, and you go
and you wonder with some of these accounts is that
one level of this is a person who really believes
what they're saying versus someone who's playing that that next
level of chess.
Speaker 2: You talk about.
Speaker 1: Two after THEO Vaughn put out his video where he
was appealing into why are we doing this? He's like, well,
Theovaugh's real last name is this and.
Speaker 2: His last names.
Speaker 3: German last name I've ever heard, and his ancestor was
a badass. Yeah, uh huh.
Speaker 1: Do you know what his German last name actually translates to?
Speaker 3: What's that? J?
Speaker 2: Slayer?
Speaker 3: Come on, not kidding? Is that guy a real guy?
Speaker 1: The guy he's talk about, He's talked about it, He's
talked about it before on his show.
Speaker 3: I Mean, it's like that meme where you go, this
thing is freaking stupid and it's a hot dog skateboarding
and it's goes coolest thing ever.
Speaker 1: It's like the first is this you? That they'll be like,
they'll post like one of your tweets and be like
is this you?
Speaker 2: And then you have the meme what is this you?
And then on it it says most base thing ever?
Speaker 3: Okay, it's when you put it's the exact kind of
thing that elicits a posting of the Giga Chad underneath it.
Speaker 1: You forgot the giga Chad meme? Yeah yeah, so yeah,
I mean they, I mean their propaganda doesn't even work anymore.
Speaker 3: It's not even why don't Probably I'm seeing my point,
and I hope that's fair, because I really can't tell
anymore whose propa because I know that people I don't know.
There seems to be sometimes on our side a reaction
to think almost I'm nobody of any major status, but
there's this kind of bubb underbubbling, especially from the Amphibians,
that no other side could possibly do propaganda. And this
is one of the reasons why I kind of avoid
this stuff, because I don't know anymore if the account
that I'm looking at is propaganda or from what side
the propaganda is looking at. So now I just go
entirely by my own intuition, which is to say, what
you said, I should regard that country in the Middle
East with the same energy that I regard Burma or
something like that, some irre guam, some irrelevant place, and
that's how I try to treat it.
Speaker 1: If they didn't have so much power and so much
influence over over politicians in this country. Your sure, it
would be easy to it'd be easy to ignore, and
especially over Europe and you know who exerts a lot
of influence on this country. Yeah, there used to be
this game that was the ever heard of forward magazine.
I have not Yeah, it calls itself the It's one
of the leading Jewish online magazines. And people used to
play this. They used to have these. They used to
have articles and like titles, and you would see sometimes
you'd see them in like the Jerusalem.
Speaker 2: Post or Herrets. It would be like, is it the
daily Forward of the Daily Stormer? You can't tell who?
Like who would is? Who's writing this article? Is it?
Speaker 1: Like? Literally like is the Stormer back back online? And
they're writing articles and you're just like the headline, You're like,
why why would you do this? I was like, why
would you write an article about this?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean I think it's just that this specific group
of people were talking about they are so they think
they're so right.
Speaker 2: And I hate this.
Speaker 1: Term, but it's a good term to use for a
new people or normies that might be listening who haven't
tuned up by now. They think they're on the right
side of history, so like.
Speaker 3: Well they do. They'll have to because that's part of
the dialectic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so they'll write articles about like yeah, like oh,
how eighty to ninety percent of the foreigners that helped
now get going, we're Jewish. Or they'll write about how,
you know, when the Armenian genocide happened, the Jews, that's
the Jews that stood by and were, you know, advising them.
And it's like, why the why would you write this?
Speaker 3: I know, it seems so miscalculated. You're thinking, is uh,
who is this working for? Yeah, so it doesn't makes
you want to what if a system is what it does?
And so it makes you wonder.
Speaker 1: And I think it's one of those things where it's like.
Speaker 2: If they get enough people.
Speaker 1: To There was this theory after October seventh that the
reason they were killing civilians in the numbers they were
is because they were trying to isolate themselves from the
rest of the world, like it was purposely being done
for what purpose? Who the hell knows, but mm hmm.
It almost seems like every every once in a while
they do something or they admit to something.
Speaker 3: And it's.
Speaker 1: It's meant to cause people who aren't wedded to their
you know, wedded to their well being. You know people
who are you know just one, you know one d
Filo Semites.
Speaker 2: That they.
Speaker 1: Want people to hate them so that they have something
to rally around. Look the last two that our whole
history is people hating us for no reason whatsoever. We're
always innocent, we never do anything wrong. I mean, they're there,
their own philosophers. If you go back and your research,
you will find Aaron and I read an article where
it was just quoting their own philosophers saying, we can
never admit we're wrong. We always have to be innocent.
Speaker 3: Was that the psychotic Nation?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's real, the psychotic Nation.
Speaker 3: And I saw recording with him and and he's in
his murder Don jenn or his rape basement, he's hitting
a hookah. He's got such an image.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's very erin and you know, so
it's like you, here's the thing is, if they had
no say over our government, we could just look at
them from afar and like it would just be this
like anthropologic, you know, we could just look at them
anthropologically and be like, this is a really weird group
of people. What the hell is going on over there,
but the fact that they have so much sway over
what used to be the West, and especially the United
States in general. You you're almost you're forced, I feel
forced to address it as somebody who you know. I mean,
it's like, I think people think that I want to
be talking about Jewish history, Jewish current events. I'd rather
be talking about hockey. Panthers are up three nothing on
the Carolina Panthers, on the Carolina Hurricanes right now. I mean,
I would love to be talking about Florida Panther hockey.
Speaker 3: And that's a valid podcast for you to start. When
this all wraps up.
Speaker 1: Oh luongo and I did a whole hockey podcast and
people who didn't even like hockey loved it. We did
a whole episode. We did a whole episode on it,
and people people think that, you know, it's like, oh, well,
why would you talk about this. I'm compelled to. I'm
compelled to talk about this because basically, I I'm part
of this country. You know, I was born here. You
know my I have relatives to serve in the military here.
You know, relatives who are buried all throughout buried all
throughout the country. This is where I belong. This is where.
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 1: I've lived in other countries and I've always come back.
It's like, I mean, why wouldn't I When I look
and I see, and it's easy to see who is
exerting the most influence and the most negative influence. That's
the biggest problem I have with being like, oh, you're
just jealous of them because they're successful, successful at what,
at what? Personally successful. Yes, they can get power, they
can get positions, they can do a lot of it
is true nepotism. I don't even have a real problem
with nepotism. But the problem is is when they get power,
when they get positions of influence, it always pushes everything
to the left or it pushes us into war. Those
are two things that are a net negative, I mean,
and could basically spell the end of this country, which
is which I'm a part of. So how can I
not talk about that? Sure, I know that there are
other groups involved, but when you're two point four percent
of the population and you look and you you look
at the Biden like White House and the first Man
or whatever they were calling him, Doug Emhoff is out
on like the steps of Congress, and he's like, here
are the four hundred and fifty seven Jews who are
working directly with Joe Biden.
Speaker 2: What the what? What A?
Speaker 1: And then I look at the Biden regime and it's
basically war upon my people, Okay. And then you look
at his cabinet and it's sixty to eighty percent Jewish.
And you look at the Attorney General, and you look
at the the Department, you look at all all of
these people who are in charge. You look at Victoria Newlan,
who's basically it doesn't matter if it's a Republican or
a Democrat, she's in charge trying to get us into war,
you know, getting us into war with Russia, or getting
us into proxy wars with Russia, getting us into proxy
wars for Israel.
Speaker 2: I'm not supposed to what. I'm not supposed to say something?
Speaker 1: Why because I'm I should be scared or it's you know,
it's it's ghost, it's not something you know, you know.
Speaker 3: It's becoming less every day. I mean, it's amazing the
progression of it. This kind of talk is becoming less
and less, uh taboo every day to the compul miscalculation
of that side.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, and people are like oh. You know,
it's like it's like you rarely ever hear me. Yeah,
you rarely ever hear me say the term the Jews.
I always say Jews. It'sn't that the Jews. I don't
like there. I know, I personally know Jews that I
get along with. We're friends, you know. You know these
are people who don't have power. They're not trying to manipulate,
you know, the levers of power, the levers of influence
in certain places, some of them are actually working. They
may not want to be one hundred percent on my side,
but they are definitely working in the same direction. It's
not them, it's this this.
Speaker 2: Certain group of power.
Speaker 1: And you could see that in like when you study
like Russian history and you look at the stettle. It's
like with the Rabbis were rabbid, which is funny, Rabbi
rabbit rabbid lunatics. And then you can you know, once
you start agains that you go down a rabbit trail.
I mean, there's so much there. I could do this
all night. You look at how not only were they
like the peasants around them manipulating them, but they've pipulating
their own people. And that's The worst thing about this
is is that Kevin McDonald can say this is, you know,
this is how they've evolved and everything. Okay, but how
did they evolve that way? They evolved that way because
their leadership was constantly telling them everybody outside of our
group wants to kill you. And you're also the most
special people who've ever been born, So you're basically breeding
a narcissist class. And yeah, I mean it's it's the
ones who have who think that they have to, you know,
heal the world, or the ones that think that they
have to.
Speaker 2: It always seems.
Speaker 1: Like what their what their goal is, and what they
brag about is completely against the culture that they've their
diaspora has you know, found its way into.
Speaker 3: Well says, it's very good that the left wing was
given the term woke right so that they can easily
dismiss the nuances of this conversation when they start to
hear it.
Speaker 1: H James Lindsay. James Lindsay and actually it was somebody
tracked down that it may have actually been James one
of James Lindsay's bosses. A Jewish female millionaire or billionaire
that has something to do with the Manhattan Institute or
I can't remember everything, but.
Speaker 3: Sounds like that's the sounds like that's the system doing
what it what it does.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is you know, the purpose system is what
it does. So yeah, I mean to take it all back,
you know, it's all the way back. I mean, I
see this is what I see out of Ukraine. This
is what I see out of Russia because I know
the Russian history of the nineties, and Scott Horton's supposed
to have somebody who's writing a book on that that
they're supposed to release, and it's I heard an interview
with this woman and she has such in depth knowledge
of everything that was going on in the nineties. And
you know other people have talked about it too, you
know who really know, really know the history nineties Russia
is fascinating and terrifying and insanely said. And I mean
what you're seeing now is just a continuation of that.
Is trying to get back at Putin for cutting off
their their destruction of Russia is what you know that
they wanted to do, just like they you know, had
to destroy Germany. So yeah, and I you know what
what's happening in Gaza. You know there's the question of
whether they knew what was going to happen and they
let it happen. It was completely a surprise, whichever side
you take on that really what what's most important is
what the reaction to it was. And if you sit
down and you study and you look at the reaction,
when you realize that the telegram channel seventy two Virgins,
which just basically showed every atrocity the IDF was doing,
was actually run by the IDF, and they were putting
up their own atrocities, you have to it's I think
it's very easy to say that these are just insane
people and they're evil, and you know, maybe I have
an opinion that there's both of those are in play,
but you also have to question.
Speaker 2: Why would they do that.
Speaker 1: You're doing it for a specific purpose, and what is
the purpose? I mean, it almost seems like you were
by doing that, you're committing suicide. You want to commit suicide?
Speaker 3: Well, there is well, and I don't want to get
too much into it because this is the hornet's nest
of all hornets nests, but there is a faction where
that is the metaphysical goal is to bring about a
great oppression so as to accelerate the coming of the Messiah.
And sometimes I think about that when I see things
like that.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: I don't know if individual soldiers on the ground realize this,
but there's a cultural procession of that kind of behavior
mixed with the we're the victims, where you have to wonder, well,
if those two things are being said at the same time,
it seems like you're almost goading people into hating you.
And that has only been the succession of culture in
this country. Is that more and more people are moving
towards that extremely critical view of this country in the
Middle East and the people who support it, which would
have been totally intolerable ten years ago, and it part
of it strategically seems to have come out of that
very side. And so you do you wonder, I mean,
there are enough and I guess there's a better term
for it, but enough messianic lunatics in that country who
fall into that shabbatizev style of, you know, bringing about
the oppression of our own people, where you have to
wonder how much of an influence does that have on
the overall strategy for the elites in that country. That's
what I wonder at least.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I always think back to like the Sabotans and
how their proto the proto groups whenever they think that
the Messiah is here, you know, because they you know,
zeb claimed to be the STI. There's either he either
he did or the people around him said that he was.
And apparently I think in his case it was Nathan
of Gaza who declared him to be the Messiah. But
you know, the proto Sabatans there there was some not
too long before him who in you know what is
Poland Ukraine, that area what you know what would become
the palest settlement where they rose up and they just
they just started killing people. They just started slaughtering people
because they were like, well, the Messiah's here, he's going
to you know. And that's when the Cossacks came in,
when kimel Nitsky came in and had to put them down.
And you know, well, is that what we're seeing is
that what is is what we're seeing is will they
think that their time has come? Maybe the Messiah is
not here. Maybe we can by doing this, we can
get him to reveal himself that you know, God will
send him. God will reveal him if he's already born,
and by you know, slaughtering all of these people, it
will you know, there their eskaton, their concept of an
escaton will start.
Speaker 3: Well. And it's it really is very interesting because that
you know, the region that we were discussing as the
first subject of this conversation, in particular to the in
the west part of Ukraine as Padolia, which is the
cradle of uh you know Jacob Frank's movement, and it
does seem like there is an Antinomian There is almost
seems like there's an Antinomian possession that's going on right
now in that country in the Middle East, whether it's
intentional or otherwise, that is playing on those same principles
that was happening in that cradle, which is the subject
of the other war that's going on, which you say
are related in some way, and I tend to agree
with you. So that's very interesting.
Speaker 2: To me.
Speaker 3: When you say, you wonder when you think about the
channels on telegram and are these people evil or and
you wonder if there is an obsession with Antinomianism and
does it come from a religious origin, in which case
you certainly can't say that it's rational action, it has
to be a religious messianic action. And so when you're
wondering why is it that it seems like half of
the antisemitism in this country is being stoked by that
very side intentionally, you have to wonder is it on purpose?
And it seems like the more you investigate it, there's
a really strong claim that if it's not on purpose,
then its intention is acknowledged and not fought again against
at the very least. I mean, I see guys like
Rabbi Schmooley and and you just go, what other game
plan is there than to stoke hatred for a particular
suffering for a reason, you know, to create this suffering servant,
the suppressed minority idea, to keep it alive in a
time when it's clear as day this is not real,
It is not true that this is an oppressed group.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then yeah, you go back and you think about
Schmooley and you're like, is he real?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: He could be a one our guys. Did one of
our guys create him? What?
Speaker 2: Right? Here? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: But you know, I mean, if well, obviously, if you
if you look at everything that's being done in so
Anomianism can't be that.
Speaker 2: Has to enter the conversation.
Speaker 1: That is why I always I always chuckle when I mention,
because I've read enough of you know, people think that,
oh if you if you know anything about your history
of the Jews can come from mind calm for you know.
So it's like, no, I read them. I read what
they write, and when you read what they write, you're like, well,
these people don't believe in God. They use they say
that there are some Jews who actually believe in God, sure,
but for the mostly, for the most part, leadership is.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Even some of the rabbi, I mean even a lot
of the rabbis, they just don't believe in God.
Speaker 3: So it's like it's very clear in terms of the
elites that it's it's a it's a ploy. It's meant
to capitalize on the dim wittedness of the majority to
be able to kind of organize them in a metaphysical way.
They don't believe it at all. It's a man.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean hertzel Can didn't believe in God. I didn't
believe in God, but he could read the Bible and go, Okay,
there there's groups out there who believe that this is
actually the scripture, and we're going to make them this
is that this is God breathed and we're going to
make them, you know, we're going to claim that we
believe in this and we're going to use it as
a as Ryan Dawson likes to, you know, say that
the Bible is not like a real estate a real
estate document. It doesn't give you the right to just
you know, oh, this is our land here, so well,
can you can you prove your Jews? Can you can
you prove you have any ties to that land? Well,
we say we're Jews and you have to believe us.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, that's fine.
Speaker 1: But yeah, and you know Israel Shahak in his book says, yeah, yeah,
I mean and is somebody who was a professor in
Israeli universities.
Speaker 2: This is yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, they use the Bible when it benefits them.
They believe in scripture, quote unquote, believe when it benefits them,
when it can when they can use it to manipulate,
is what he said. And yeah, I mean that's there's
nothing more Antinomian. There's no more Antinomian action than that.
When you're just basically pretending so that you can you
can manipulate other people, because if you're you know, and
also you know not to mention not only manipulate other people,
but to murder other people.
Speaker 2: Well, well it gave us.
Speaker 3: It's a classic Babylonian trait. For what it's worth is
it's a classic trait you find among elite societies of
all kinds. Is that this idea that it's okay for
us to transgre.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah, but not you, I mean, and that's
and you could also argue that that's just a friend
enemy distinction politics too.
Speaker 3: It's yeah, I wouldn't yield that that is necessarily Antinomian.
I mean when you when you see some of the behavior,
like you said on that telegram channel. Now, these are
plebs and grunts who are who are participating in this,
but it is the whole culture's facilitated by their elites.
They like that this kind of thing is happening, and
that strikes me as particularly Antinomian. I agree with you
that there is certainly a friend enemy distinction that's being
applied here, But I don't think you're as a Christian.
I don't think even as you apply that you are
loosed from your moral obligations. That's the difference they do, right, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Christians historically haven't just started killing
people because they wanted to start killing people. There was
always a reason. There was a reason the Crusades happened.
Speaker 2: There was reason.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was always a justification behind it. Usually that
justification was actually right. Not great to say it, but yeah,
I know a lot I don't hate to say it,
but I know a lot of people don't want to
hear that, but it was correct. But yeah, this is
just I mean, this is just killing people for the
sake of killing people, and you know, the irony shouldn't
be lost that, you know. That's what they that's what
they accused the Germans of doing, killing people because of
who they are and what they believe. I mean, I'm
not one of these people who was like, you know, oh,
they're the real Nazis, because that's retarded.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's too worn out rhetoric. Yeah, it's just too war.
It just doesn't anymore. It's just it's so boomer fied
and everything.
Speaker 1: But I mean, like literally, you know, it's like, you know,
these Nazis national Socialists are the most evil ever because
they killed, they executed people and slaughtered people because of
who they are and what they believed.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I mean.
Speaker 1: If that is your story and you're sticking to it, well,
I mean I guess I can say were they wrong?
If you think what you're doing is right and you're
going to justify it by saying these people are just
you know, you know, evil and you know one our destruction,
well then isn't isn't the narrative that that's what they believe?
Speaker 2: Too?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I think you've panted back yourself into
a corner here.
Speaker 3: Well, you don't understand, Pete. It was Palestinian terrorists who
convince the Nazis to do the acast.
Speaker 2: Who said that. Recently, it was.
Speaker 3: Nana who was saying it because his court jester, that
historian is the one who came up with that idea.
Whatever that guy's name is, who I forget, Benny, Benny Morris.
That comes from Benny Morris, who's sort of the court
historian of the Likud party.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I mean, it's just it's insane. Everybody wants
to you know, you have one party over here saying,
oh the Nazis for being controlled by the Palestinians, and
you have like Jay Dyer over here saying no, the
Nazis are controlled by the Zionist.
Speaker 3: He yeah, he's just ridiculous, man. I mean, I mean,
I mean, his whole his whole thing was exposed years
ago by Erica Bara. Not that that's now, that's too
Catholic inside baseball. But that guy's not a friend.
Speaker 1: And we could talk about that off there, because I
still have a lot of friends that are friends with him,
and I don't uh yeah, hopefully my friends who are
still friends with him are mature enough to you know,
realize why, you know, what my problem is with him,
and to to accept it, because you know, a lot
of a lot of those friends don't like some of
the people that I associate with. So I mean, it's
we'll just be adults, you know. You know, it's different
when you know me and you can just reach out
to me and go, hey, what's going on? M And
if you're some when you're summing non on Twitter, who
goes you're acting like a Jew? That means you're Jewish.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So all right, we've been going. We've been going for
a while here. You have you have anything, I mean,
We talked.
Speaker 2: About a lot of ship here that probably can get
us in trouble.
Speaker 1: But you know, I mean whatever. I guess that's my
life now, but my life for a while.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm untouchable at this point. I'm a buoyant podcaster.
Nobody cares anymore.
Speaker 2: I do. I wait for every episode drop.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know it was funny. I was preparing. I
hope not to extend this too long, but I was
preparing to talk to you a little bit about some
of your Mystery Babylon.
Speaker 2: Stuff, because that's yet I'm waiting.
Speaker 3: You've not listened to any of this series yet.
Speaker 1: I have not listened to any of the series. Okay,
you's one of those ones. I'm waiting on you.
Speaker 3: What's very interesting about it? And you will pick on
what I very quickly. So I expected DM from you
when you pick up on it, because you will. But
I guess I'll say it out here for all of
the good in the mystery. But and okay, so the
Mystery Babylon theory. For those who don't know, you can
go to my patreon. You can go to the Timeline
Earth patreon. Pause, my co host and I are doing
a forty episode series where we listened through the forty
two episode Bill Cooper, who was a conspiracy theorist radio
show host who did a forty something episode series on
a theory he called Miss Babylon. The long and short
of it is, it's the grand conspiracy about how all
of the modern secret societies that you can name have
a singular origin point in the Babylonian mystery religion. There's
a lot more nuance to it than that. It's very
fascinating him and we are going through it. It's like
two hours an episode. Sometimes we spend on doing this,
and I like to bring a lot of context to it.
And one thing that I'm noticing, and I just did
a literal case insensitive search through the entire four hundred
and nine page transcript of the Mystery Babylon thing, Sabatai
Zevi Jacob Frank never mentioned even once in the entire thing.
And so I'm looking at this and I'm going, well,
it's very interesting that that's not in there. And that's
what I wanted to talk to you about. And I'm
glad that we managed to get some of that in there,
because I don't understand how a good faith actor can
possibly talk about a group like the Nazari Assassins, the
Afghan Rashania, the Freemasons, the Gnostics, the Rosicrucians, the Skull
and Bones, and at no point are the Sabotans or
the Frankests mentioned. I mean, we talk about the Templars,
we talk about the Nights of Malta, we talk about
all of the secret societies that you could possibly expect,
and there are glaring omissions. Now I hope that that's
not an anti advertisement for the show, because the theory
in general is very fascinating. But it's really interesting when
you consider that Bill mister Cooper was a god among
the militia movement in the United States, and it was
probably a multiple times called an anti Semite, among other racist,
among all other things, and none of this stuff even appears.
And I just thought that was very interesting. So when
you go into the series, expect to not hear that,
because that is something that only occurred to me recent.
I was going, wait, we've done fifteen episodes, probably thirty
hours of content already available to you if you go
to that Patreon and you subscribe about thirty hours of content,
no mention of that. Plenty of mentions against the Catholic Church,
plenty of mentions against various forms of Islam, and no
mention of that at all. So it's something that occurred
to me and I was wondering your thoughts. But if
you haven't listened to it yet, now, I'm very interested
as we continue to go through it. When you do
get to it, to give me your thoughts on it, because,
like I say, the theory is very interesting and presents
a lot of good context for what's going on with
various secret societies and their motivations. Ultimately, I'm willing to
believe that there is a massive and extremely powerful depopulationist
communist society that, even though they're disparate and fight amongst themselves,
sometimes they all have a singular goal of a new
world order. I am willing to believe that. But it
was funny to hear some of the omissions. So you
can join us on this journey, dear listeners. For the
price of a slice of pizza, they're getting very expensive.
You can join me and pause as we go through
this whole theory. Know what you'll hear, know what you
won't hear, but you will hear a lot of very
interesting things that give you a lot of context, for instance,
the Bush family, a lot of things that I learned,
for instance, a lot of great context on the founding fathers.
And if you don't believe Bill, and you don't believe me,
that's tough. You can check the sources. The federal government
has entire articles about how George Washington performed a free
Masonic ceremony at the foundation stone of the Capitol Building.
And there's plenty of sources for how Benjamin Franklin's hole
capturing lightning was a Promethean ritual. They talk about this
in the Federal government, and so not to distract too
much from our conversation today, which I think is very important,
but I am a multi factionalist. I do believe that
there are a number of christ hating factions in the
world that viy for power and for the extinction of
Christ and his message and his church. And some of
those groups also call themselves Christian for what it's worth,
because it's to destroy the church. Once you destroy the church,
then there is nothing. It doesn't matter how many disparate
individuals there are. As you see, American Protestantism is in
the state that it's in no offense to my American
Protestant friends. I'm sure many of you agree with me.
You kind of see that there is a multi factional
approach here. So we talked about one faction on this show.
Today on Mystery Babylon we talk about another faction. You
can judge for yourself the relationships between those two and
the others. I also think Radical Islam is a genuine faction,
I really do. I think that's a genuine power faction
that wants to destroy us. And so there's lots of
different factions there, and we cover them all in what
will amount to a forty something episode series on the
Patreon that you can go and listen to fifteen episodes
of right Now PAS and I release them every Sunday
between noon and for you to listen to after you
get out of church or maybe you're preparing for the
following workday. There's plenty of content there, So Pete, I'm
very excited for you to listen to it, because I
think I do want to do an episode with you
when you get through parts of it, because I know
you'll rage at it and you'll bring you know, you'll
bring your knowledge to it that will add something that
we don't have, So I look forward to that, and
I look forward to your listeners joining us on that
journey too. In fact, the last time that I plugged
this on your show, it was a massive jump in
people who were engaging with it. So a lot of
your people are coming in already and are engaging with
the content, and I really I welcome more, not just
because you know, I like the subscription money, but also
because I think this conversation has opened up people's eyes
to at least one of Bill's great principles with it,
which is the esoteric and the exoteric distinction that elites
tell us one thing and do something else. Now it's
very obvious when you say it in a short act
like that, but the whole point of the series is
doing that exact principal analysis over forty something episodes in
various different factions, and by the time that we get
to the end of it, will be masters at decoding
what they're saying versus what they're doing. So that's what
I present to your listeners as a reason to listen.
Speaker 1: Well, I will say this. I was looking over on
my one of my bookshelves where I have Russian history.
I have a couple books there that cover Russian history
from the nineteen oh five Revolution.
Speaker 2: All the way up through World War Two. And yeah,
there's a certain group that's not mentioned anywhere.
Speaker 3: In it really interesting.
Speaker 1: So yeah, this is uh, this is not uncommon, whether
by you know, whether on purpose or whether it's just
you know, it's like doctor Matthew RFL Johnson says.
Speaker 2: He says, you can go.
Speaker 1: Through your whole college career and no one will address
No one in academia will address this. So people can
come out and become journalists and become writers, and they
can write books and they just don't know. They haven't
learned about this. It's been kept from them. And yeah,
I've taken to saying that until you're willing to deal
with this one group, I don't think you can understand
the last two thousand years of history. It's like it's
opening it's the master keys opening up a really good understanding.
Even if you don't believe that it's all.
Speaker 2: You know, they orchestrated this whole.
Speaker 1: Everything for the last two thousand years. You can't understand
European history without knowing that, especially European history. You cannot
understand European history without knowing that this group exists and
the actions and actions that they took, places they were
and places they were invited into, because I'm not going
to let people off the hook for you know, especially
at Lee two or like.
Speaker 2: Oh these people can make us money, we need.
Speaker 1: To invite them in, and then they drag in another
five or six thousand with them, you know. So yeah,
there's plenty of books that I've read where they're not mentioned.
And whether whether it's deliberate, which you know, most of
the Amphibians will say, oh, that's just completely deliberate, or
whether these people just don't don't know, they were never taught,
they were never taught to look for this. You know,
it's just another group. It's just another group of it's
just another group, you know, just like the French, and
just like the Germans, and just like the Spanish or
something like that. Then, yeah, I try to get people
the benefit of the doubt until you know, especially people
that I can like interact with on my own, I'll
give them the benefit of the doubt until I see
their reaction.
Speaker 2: Let's you see their reaction, you can.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's very important that as intelligent people,
whether we have an ability to change anything or not.
It's important that people stay informed about any number of
power factions in the world whose actions will have an
effect on their day to day life, or at the
very least on the country that they live in. All
of the factions, for me, not just one, all of them,
and we try to cover that on that program. And
there is one notable omission, but other than that, I
really do think we hit the mark.
Speaker 1: Awesome all right, men, we'll talk a little bit off
air about what I wanted to ask you, so sure,
Thank you, I appreciate you to give this, and yeah,
I talk to you soon. You can have me on
Timeline Earth anytime.
Speaker 3: I got a message for you. I'm writing something up.
I got a plan all right later minute