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<v Speaker 1>Welcome everybody to the Thunderbuddies podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>We have not started this podcast like eight times already,

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<v Speaker 2>and today we're gonna talk about a few different topics

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<v Speaker 2>that you're will be interested in because there's nobody doing

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<v Speaker 2>this because we are the war Thunder podcast. So welcome in,

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<v Speaker 2>hope you have it a fantastic day, and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>start off talking missiles because, as everybody.

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<v Speaker 1>Knows, the missile notes. And I'm joined by Gail.

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<v Speaker 2>Who is obsessed with air RBO, who has gotten Well wait,

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<v Speaker 2>you actually said you have not picked up the plane

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<v Speaker 2>that just released the newest F sixteen, right, you said

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<v Speaker 2>you have.

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<v Speaker 3>Picked it up? I mean, yeah, I have as a rental,

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<v Speaker 3>but yeah, I don't own it own it yet.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, how dare you not give the Snail all

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<v Speaker 2>your money?

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<v Speaker 3>I did? Actually I just spent a shit to load

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<v Speaker 3>of money on this new these new bundles that just

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<v Speaker 3>came out this week. But you know, other than that,

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<v Speaker 3>I give the Snail my life, so I don't give

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<v Speaker 3>them any money. That's just not how that works.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, proper shilling. You got that in the first

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<v Speaker 2>two minutes. Welcome in, But missiles in the game right now,

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<v Speaker 2>and obviously since we're starting this show talking about high

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<v Speaker 2>tier jets, for those who are new to the show,

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<v Speaker 2>don't worry, We're gonna cover all.

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<v Speaker 1>Topics, even navel.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm gonna force you all to listen to my

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<v Speaker 2>naval stories because I love blue water. But best in

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<v Speaker 2>the game, you know, and obviously this rotates, so we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be doing this. Is the meta based on when

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about this right now, starting of April twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty six, what is the best?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you we've had times with the F.

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<v Speaker 2>Fourteen Iranian jet came out, well, the Iranian F fourteen

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<v Speaker 2>Phoenix missiles where the you know, the shit and then

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<v Speaker 2>they got nerve to a degree. A one twenties have

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<v Speaker 2>always been like a big deal. What's the best? Right now, Gail, tell.

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<v Speaker 3>The people what's the best? Top tier? Yeah, man, I

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<v Speaker 3>would say it completely. It completely depends on your play style,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'd said easily the best would have to be

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<v Speaker 3>the Eurofighter Typhoons easily, the SU thirty, especially in the

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<v Speaker 3>new SM two s U thirty that just came out.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean just the abound, the sheer amount of missiles

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<v Speaker 3>and your BVR capability across the board of top tier.

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<v Speaker 3>But I mean it really depends. If you're a guy

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<v Speaker 3>that likes to fly the deck, you like to fly

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<v Speaker 3>through the valleys, then I mean maybe a super one

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<v Speaker 3>it would be more your way. But I would say

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<v Speaker 3>the meta and nowadays is probably the Eurofighter typhoon, the

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<v Speaker 3>Russian SU thirties.

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<v Speaker 2>The chat that I asked this man what's the best

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<v Speaker 2>missile and he starts listing jets, So, you know, love it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean your segues into that. You know, now we

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<v Speaker 3>talk about you know, it's not just the missile, is

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<v Speaker 3>the plane that's attached to you know, so it's like yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>So like I love.

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<v Speaker 2>That you mentioned play style because when I do play

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<v Speaker 2>air RB, which anybody who watches my stream, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>terrible if I maybe do it here and there, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm definitely one that I'm taking the F sixteen,

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<v Speaker 2>the F fifteen to the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, But obviously that's gonna limit your radar. It's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna depending on what map.

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<v Speaker 3>Arguably the worst way to do that within fifteen, But

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<v Speaker 3>you know it's teach the teachad the best missile in

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<v Speaker 3>the game easily right now, I would say it's got

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<v Speaker 3>to be the r seventy seven and one. It's got

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<v Speaker 3>to be the Meca easily the best. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 3>Meca with within you know, twenty kilometers fifteen kilometers is

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<v Speaker 3>essentially unavoidable unless you have someone that really knows what

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<v Speaker 3>they're doing and really puts into a notch immediately. But

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<v Speaker 3>that thing comes hot fast. You don't see it coming,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean. And then the seventy seven to one, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it's you can say what you want about Russian pias,

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<v Speaker 3>but the seventy seven one is just nasty, especially at

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<v Speaker 3>that sort of similar range. But if you get it

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<v Speaker 3>in on that SU thirty platform and you get up

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<v Speaker 3>to thirty thousand feet go and mock one three, you

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<v Speaker 3>send that thing out, it's gonna fly out there, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, and there's other goofy ones down there

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<v Speaker 3>you have, like the you know, the Derby's and stuff

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<v Speaker 3>that are good in the decent at a close range.

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<v Speaker 3>In one twenty b's pretty decent out of mid range too,

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it's it definitely depends on your play style,

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<v Speaker 3>and your play style is also going to dictate what

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<v Speaker 3>plane you went, which is why I went into the planes,

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<v Speaker 3>and I mean, and not every plane could take every missile,

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<v Speaker 3>so it really depends on each player. Everyone's gonna feel

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<v Speaker 3>one way or the other, but it's it could be.

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<v Speaker 3>It could be either way.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, would you say that style of missile obviously

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<v Speaker 2>the plane matters, but that actually is a great kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like segue back to one of the planes I

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned earlier when the Rainy and F fourteen came out

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<v Speaker 2>and we had that physic uh physics that Phoenix missile

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<v Speaker 2>run that a lot of people were.

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<v Speaker 1>Jumping on to.

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<v Speaker 2>It is because they were all going high and launching

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<v Speaker 2>it from like thirty miles out. Yeah, and it was

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<v Speaker 2>insta killing everybody. And that's similar to performance to Ordgina.

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<v Speaker 1>It's definitely not as bad.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not trying to make the argument the missiles we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about are op or need to be nerved, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's that similar style that's working really well right now

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<v Speaker 2>in the game.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And that's what it is, is just because you know,

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<v Speaker 3>in real life, that is the combat style in the

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<v Speaker 3>modern age, it's all the BVR, the beyond visual range

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<v Speaker 3>you I mean, everything nowadays, especially especially nowadays twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's everything is stealth and if you don't

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<v Speaker 3>have a stealth aircraft, you don't survive. And it's just

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<v Speaker 3>how it is.

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<v Speaker 2>And you say that, and yet Guiden made the F

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<v Speaker 2>one one seven and it.

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<v Speaker 3>Is oh yeah, well what's what's This is why I

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<v Speaker 3>say Fifth Gen shouldn't come to the game yet, because

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<v Speaker 3>I agree it's like Guidsian's like, how do we how

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<v Speaker 3>do we model stealth in this game? Oh, it's add

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<v Speaker 3>this plane that looks like it's stealth. Let's add like

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<v Speaker 3>a simple if then statement if it's within five miles

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<v Speaker 3>so you can see it. If not, yeah, your radar

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't see it. Oh is the bombay open?

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<v Speaker 1>There's two?

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<v Speaker 3>There's two iift in statements there. But you know, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's just kind of the model. That's what it's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be for the rest of worth. On their top tier RB,

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to be BVR. It's going to be who

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<v Speaker 3>has the best radar, who has the best radar sweep,

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<v Speaker 3>and who has the best missile they can fire from

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<v Speaker 3>the farthest that tracks the longest, burns, the longest might

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<v Speaker 3>burn you know, smokeless, whatever whatever benefit that you can

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<v Speaker 3>have to fire farther. Hold it better and put yourself

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<v Speaker 3>in a notch while it's getting there. And that's why

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<v Speaker 3>the Iranian tom Cat, like you said, is so good,

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<v Speaker 3>or it's still very good and still good.

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<v Speaker 2>To be clear, I hope nobody heard what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 2>as if I'm saying the F fourteen is not worth

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<v Speaker 2>flying now. It absolutely is an arguably irany One's still

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<v Speaker 2>the best four team in the.

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<v Speaker 3>Game, not even arguably easily. Yeah, I would argue.

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<v Speaker 2>More making the point that it's not, you know, ridiculously

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<v Speaker 2>op like it was when it launched.

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<v Speaker 3>I would argue, yeah, that the I would argue that

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<v Speaker 3>the F fourteen A and B. I mean, in this

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<v Speaker 3>modern climate, especially this winter, the Su thirty premiums came

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<v Speaker 3>out the I mean, the MKK for the for China's insane,

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<v Speaker 3>it's thirteen three. The Russian SU thirty premium it's also

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<v Speaker 3>thirteen three. And if you're playing twelve seven, if you're

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<v Speaker 3>playing thirteen zero, you're getting up tiered pretty much every

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<v Speaker 3>single game, and you're gonna be facing those planes have

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<v Speaker 3>ten missiles, they have better Fox threes, they have better radar,

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<v Speaker 3>they have better performance, they have IRCCM Fox twos, they

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<v Speaker 3>have all these things they have. I mean, they have

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<v Speaker 3>nearly hypersonic Fox ones. They'll hit you going Mock six

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<v Speaker 3>at twenty five miles. You know, it's so nowadays, I

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<v Speaker 3>would say the F fourteen's it's glory days are passed.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. Back when it came out in twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 3>whenever it came out, it was good. But nowadays, if

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<v Speaker 3>you're gonna apply a Tomcat, the Iranian is probably the

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<v Speaker 3>only way to go. Because I fly a every pretty

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<v Speaker 3>much every single stream. If I ever have a bad

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<v Speaker 3>couple of games, I just go hot myself in the

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<v Speaker 3>Persian Cat. You get yourself up mock one twenty thousand feet,

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<v Speaker 3>you send those puppies out at thirty five miles, You're

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<v Speaker 3>you're ten miles beyond most effective range of other Fox ones,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's gonna find them, you know, and even though

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<v Speaker 3>you don't have a good radar, it's probably gonna find them.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's that's a good point, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, even when I fly F sixteens, you can

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<v Speaker 2>know that knows the difference and just the armament that

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<v Speaker 2>you can roll out with which missiles you have between

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<v Speaker 2>the c's and the a's. Yeah, So something that considers

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of best missiles. I like your choices. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to debate you on them. Because I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not the biggest RRB player. I do it enough because

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<v Speaker 2>I love collecting the planes. That's the type of war

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<v Speaker 2>Thunder player I am. I'm there because.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a nerd. I'm an old dad and I'll I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's cool. That's why I want to get the things.

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<v Speaker 3>So he's making model planes, well, he's playing.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got the first.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I have Lego planes from Kobe out in Poland.

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<v Speaker 3>These period a little vinyl stickers off. He's dipping them

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<v Speaker 3>in the water.

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<v Speaker 1>Seventeen right up there.

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<v Speaker 2>And I got an F fourteen from a top gun.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, for those who haven't met us before, my

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<v Speaker 2>name's Revdues. I'm a Tier three guy and your partner

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<v Speaker 2>with war Thunder. I've also partnered with them with other

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<v Speaker 2>things before. The main thing I do in stream on

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<v Speaker 2>Twitch is war Thunder, and I've been playing war Thunder.

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<v Speaker 1>For I mean, honestly since it came out. I'm one

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<v Speaker 1>of the people who.

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<v Speaker 2>Loves to rock the old Guard tag in war Thunder

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<v Speaker 2>because that's the one you have to have been playing

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<v Speaker 2>the game before twenty thirteen to earn so I'm very

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<v Speaker 2>proud of it. But I've also been basically a filthy

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<v Speaker 2>casual the entire time. I didn't decide to start streaming

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<v Speaker 2>war Thunder as part of my content until a little

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<v Speaker 2>over a year ago, besides just kind of doing it randomly.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I, you know, talk to Seb. Yep, shout Seb,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think I'm the only person that calls him Seb.

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<v Speaker 1>So guess what for me? You do that now, but

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<v Speaker 1>you used to, yeah, shout Seb and decide to added in.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've had a great time just getting to know

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<v Speaker 2>more of the community and meeting so many more of

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<v Speaker 2>the war th Under folks and helping new people find

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<v Speaker 2>the game, because I think what impresses me about war

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<v Speaker 3>Howdy. I'm not gonna go TV. I've been I've been

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<v Speaker 3>I mostly I've mostly streamed my entire career other than

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, what's something we could do? Well? I know

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<v Speaker 3>always like collaborating with other content creators, and I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>And then you know, maybe every now and then we

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<v Speaker 3>some small guys you've never heard of, or you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we we just we just sit here and we talk

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<v Speaker 3>way right now, if you if you found this YouTube

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<v Speaker 3>grind out a tank or you know. Then here we are,

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<v Speaker 3>so we're here to yap. You can look at us

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<v Speaker 3>if you want, or you can just put us in

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<v Speaker 3>the background and listen. And yeah, that's kind of what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna correct.

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<v Speaker 1>Girl. You should be doing that before us, before Netflix US.

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<v Speaker 2>Before YouTube US, before your significant Oh well, if they.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't know about this, dude, if they don't know ye dude,

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<v Speaker 3>if it's the first time, now you know this is

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<v Speaker 2>Just but for what we are going to try to

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<v Speaker 2>give y'all. So, even though we're partnered with guys and

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<v Speaker 2>we do want to be clear that this is a

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<v Speaker 2>player centric podcast, this is gonna be something like every

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, guys, guess what they're selling today.

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<v Speaker 2>That isn't also to say from the opposite, We're not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be like, don't support Guiden.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we want you to find what's fun.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing that I have to say in my community

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<v Speaker 2>All these games today that come out, these free to

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<v Speaker 2>play models, we can we can debate the finer nuances

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<v Speaker 2>of gaming and oh I wish it was some perstription model.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I wish it was triple a single buys. All

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<v Speaker 2>those are fair arguments. Our point here is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be can we help people have more fun in war

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<v Speaker 1>And the truth is that you and I noticed there's

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<v Speaker 2>About what Guidin's doing with warth Under or any of

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<v Speaker 2>their other games. There's nobody even really talking about any

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<v Speaker 3>Like yes, and it's just yeah, I can't find any

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<v Speaker 3>a few podcasts, but I, you know, and I really

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<v Speaker 3>not found anything. And another good thing. You bring that

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<v Speaker 3>up Guidian and their other you know, there are other projects.

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<v Speaker 3>We are both guide To partners, and I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>about rev but I've been an enlisted partner before. I've

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<v Speaker 3>Cursed now. I think I played star Wrath recently, I've

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<v Speaker 1>To shill her promo. Yeah, I actually really enjoy start

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, for sure, for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Keeping in mind what.

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<v Speaker 3>That's fair, And I think I think what's the what

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<v Speaker 3>at putting out a product that arguably is damn good,

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<v Speaker 3>and most of the time it's free or less than

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<v Speaker 3>and it tends to run pretty good on lower end platforms, So.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the biggest one for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like so many of my friends I get like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you're a streamer, you have a stream PC. Sure, but

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<v Speaker 2>then you have everybody else who wants to play, and

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<v Speaker 2>you need to know that there's a game like warth

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<v Speaker 2>Under that you can literally just play on your Xbox

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<v Speaker 2>or just have a run of the mill PC from

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<v Speaker 2>five years ago. Sure, I'm not saying you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>play on Ultra and be in the cockpit of your

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<v Speaker 2>you know, F eighteen living life, you know, going full

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<v Speaker 2>virtual reality, which you can play the game and have

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what warth Under gives you. And there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of flaws to be clear for you by listening.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not trying to, you know, sugarcoat the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>warth Under has problems help. Just the month that we

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<v Speaker 2>made this podcast, for the first episode, we had to

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<v Speaker 2>So it's definitely not a perfect game, but there's obviously

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<v Speaker 2>hundreds of thousands people who love it and we want

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<v Speaker 2>to help people love it more and when needed call

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's fair. Yeah, I mean, at the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the day, people I think, think the people who are

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<v Speaker 3>and at the end of the day, complete transparency. We

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<v Speaker 3>sign no agreement other than we don't personally attack them

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<v Speaker 3>like mission.

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<v Speaker 2>Agreement says that we want to tack them and that well,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't actually say that we have to be transparent,

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<v Speaker 2>but I prefer to be transparent. Y'all know how much

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<v Speaker 2>I've ever made from being a partner with Guigen.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you it's about six hundred dollars.

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<v Speaker 4>Not much, yeah, pretty much, just being honest all over

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<v Speaker 4>a year of having their discount code and everything and

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<v Speaker 4>having hundreds of people do transactions because the fine print

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<v Speaker 4>on that And this isn't me complaining, it's just you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it's a small percentage of net profits, not gro sales.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're we're not doing this for the money.

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<v Speaker 2>We're doing because we're truly passionate about the community, and

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<v Speaker 2>we enjoy the game, and if y'all are ever curious,

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<v Speaker 2>I have no problem being transparent about that. And Gal's

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<v Speaker 2>the same way, like we'll tell you what we're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, hell, Gal's not even promoting his link because

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<v Speaker 3>I started promoting it this week to be fair because

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<v Speaker 3>it is coming very soon. I've been told it's on

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<v Speaker 3>the work order. No idea what that means. It's been

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<v Speaker 3>three months, so I don't know how long their work

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<v Speaker 3>order is. I think infantry's getting made before I'm getting made.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, I made eleven dollars, so you know

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<v Speaker 3>that's go.

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<v Speaker 2>And hey, if anybody out there doesn't want to just

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<v Speaker 2>support a shi'll mine has a deco. But I love

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<v Speaker 2>this to bitch ground there because I'm very interested in

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<v Speaker 2>this and I've heard so many different opinions and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think is the wrong answer. And one thing I

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<v Speaker 2>would tell everybody who plays warth Under, any guiding game

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<v Speaker 2>or honestly, any game, don't take what we're about to

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<v Speaker 1>Please try it for yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything one thing wrong in the world today is everybody

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<v Speaker 2>will go read like an article on Giant Robot or

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<v Speaker 2>screen ran about a TV show or a game IgM like,

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<v Speaker 2>well they said it sucks, so it sucks. Go try

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<v Speaker 2>it for yourself. And that's the first thing I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to say about the ground Beta. The second thing I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna say is it really depends on what your ex Yeah, Infantry, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>what are your expectations?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you expecting it to be as in depth and

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<v Speaker 2>what I personally my expectations with war th Under are.

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<v Speaker 2>And I actually talk to you about this. I like

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<v Speaker 2>war th Under because it's an all in one? Is

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<v Speaker 2>warth Under truly the best? Say navel, silm tank, silm

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<v Speaker 2>air sim Some people might argue yes on one of

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<v Speaker 2>an all in one package. With that paradigm in mind,

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<v Speaker 1>Does that makes sense?

422
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you should never expect it to be Battlefield six. Yeah.

423
00:18:11.119 --> 00:18:15.279
<v Speaker 3>Guidgen is a professional at making things very in depth.

424
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<v Speaker 3>They make a good grind out of it, but it

425
00:18:17.400 --> 00:18:19.240
<v Speaker 3>will never be the best of what it's supposed to be.

426
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<v Speaker 3>And that's because and I don't think they even try

427
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<v Speaker 3>to be that. They don't own that. You know, if

428
00:18:23.799 --> 00:18:26.200
<v Speaker 3>you ever see a warth Under advertisement or you see

429
00:18:26.240 --> 00:18:29.839
<v Speaker 3>warth Under promotional anything, they always just brag about how

430
00:18:29.920 --> 00:18:32.880
<v Speaker 3>much there is to the game and how in depth

431
00:18:32.920 --> 00:18:36.160
<v Speaker 3>it is. They don't claim to be the best simulator,

432
00:18:36.160 --> 00:18:38.440
<v Speaker 3>they don't claim to be this or that, or have

433
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<v Speaker 3>the best physics. They just claim to keep you entertained

434
00:18:41.960 --> 00:18:44.799
<v Speaker 3>or in at least trapped for as long as they can,

435
00:18:45.079 --> 00:18:46.200
<v Speaker 3>I think, put it a good product.

436
00:18:46.279 --> 00:18:48.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but they're limited by the same thing everybody who

437
00:18:48.559 --> 00:18:50.720
<v Speaker 2>does a free to play model is, which is they

438
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<v Speaker 2>have to leave themselves room to sell something later.

439
00:18:54.039 --> 00:18:54.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

440
00:18:54.319 --> 00:18:56.559
<v Speaker 1>Right, so there has to be a progression.

441
00:18:56.599 --> 00:18:58.960
<v Speaker 2>And you actually see this almost as a negative right

442
00:18:59.039 --> 00:19:01.559
<v Speaker 2>now in warth On, because you look around and going

443
00:19:01.960 --> 00:19:04.519
<v Speaker 2>or can we go with jets beside going fifth generation,

444
00:19:04.599 --> 00:19:06.759
<v Speaker 2>which we've already agreed so far, they don't really know

445
00:19:06.799 --> 00:19:09.079
<v Speaker 2>what to do with that, you know, So there has

446
00:19:09.160 --> 00:19:11.480
<v Speaker 2>to be that level of upward mobility, even if it's

447
00:19:11.519 --> 00:19:13.759
<v Speaker 2>something as silly as you start with an M sixteen,

448
00:19:13.839 --> 00:19:15.960
<v Speaker 2>you work your way to an M four type of thing.

449
00:19:16.000 --> 00:19:18.920
<v Speaker 1>There has to be that. But because of that structure exists.

450
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it makes it more difficult to make the perfect

451
00:19:21.759 --> 00:19:24.880
<v Speaker 2>game type deal, right, and even the way you approach it,

452
00:19:24.960 --> 00:19:27.000
<v Speaker 2>maybe they're not trying to make the perfect game, but

453
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<v Speaker 2>they want to make a really good game that you'll enjoy,

454
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<v Speaker 2>that they can continually add to five years from now.

455
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's completely Yeah, I agree. And I would say

456
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<v Speaker 3>this Infantry beta that they came out with, you know,

457
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<v Speaker 3>on the day that we record this was it was

458
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<v Speaker 3>this last week. It was I mean, it was a

459
00:19:43.839 --> 00:19:46.279
<v Speaker 3>huge improvement to the last and especially as a guy

460
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<v Speaker 3>who played a lot of Enlisted and played Active Matter,

461
00:19:48.680 --> 00:19:52.039
<v Speaker 3>you know, both of their most recent first person shooter games,

462
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<v Speaker 3>you know, it really did do things that they've never

463
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<v Speaker 3>really done before as a guide you in you know,

464
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<v Speaker 3>Infantry game, and that's and it's kind of a impressive.

465
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<v Speaker 2>Highlight that point you just said, because I don't want

466
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<v Speaker 2>people to think that this is just Enlisted poorted into

467
00:20:06.440 --> 00:20:08.839
<v Speaker 2>war Thunder and no, not anymore guid If you listen

468
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<v Speaker 2>to this, this isn't me trying to like trash on

469
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<v Speaker 2>Matter or listen I'm not. I'm just saying this is

470
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<v Speaker 2>not just something that's been poorted into war Thunder. You

471
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<v Speaker 2>can tell that the physics are better. I know, we

472
00:20:18.680 --> 00:20:20.920
<v Speaker 2>talked about physics not being the best, but the physics

473
00:20:20.960 --> 00:20:25.079
<v Speaker 2>of the infantry mode have absolutely progressed during the BA

474
00:20:25.799 --> 00:20:31.519
<v Speaker 2>and I think as a concept, while they're similar to Enlisted.

475
00:20:31.200 --> 00:20:32.119
<v Speaker 1>It's its own thing.

476
00:20:32.279 --> 00:20:35.680
<v Speaker 2>It feels like its own natural development, which I really like.

477
00:20:35.759 --> 00:20:37.880
<v Speaker 1>And again trying to say it's perfect.

478
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would say, yeah, yeah, I would say. You know,

479
00:20:41.359 --> 00:20:44.920
<v Speaker 3>back on Christmas Eve when they ran the first close

480
00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:49.599
<v Speaker 3>beta test, it felt like Enlisted. It felt like Enlisted,

481
00:20:49.640 --> 00:20:54.960
<v Speaker 3>but maybe with active matters, you know, movement system and

482
00:20:55.039 --> 00:20:58.160
<v Speaker 3>gunplay poorted in the war Thunder, and I was not

483
00:20:58.240 --> 00:21:01.000
<v Speaker 3>excited for it. I spent months. Anytime somebody asked me,

484
00:21:01.839 --> 00:21:02.720
<v Speaker 3>I thought, yea, when.

485
00:21:02.640 --> 00:21:05.599
<v Speaker 1>It first happened, and you were just kind of almost apathetic, like.

486
00:21:05.640 --> 00:21:08.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know if yeah it's and I don't. Yeah,

487
00:21:09.119 --> 00:21:12.079
<v Speaker 3>it felt like it definitely felt like Enlisted brought over,

488
00:21:12.240 --> 00:21:14.359
<v Speaker 3>and I wasn't excited for it, and I was preaching

489
00:21:14.359 --> 00:21:16.759
<v Speaker 3>for months that they should get rid of the bots.

490
00:21:16.880 --> 00:21:19.960
<v Speaker 3>First of all, everyone's complaining is the bots No one

491
00:21:20.000 --> 00:21:22.960
<v Speaker 3>wants to fight bots in twenty twenty six, you know,

492
00:21:23.319 --> 00:21:25.640
<v Speaker 3>unless the server is not full. But no one wants

493
00:21:26.240 --> 00:21:30.240
<v Speaker 3>five bots following every player around, standing in a corner

494
00:21:30.359 --> 00:21:32.839
<v Speaker 3>and using them for spawn beacons essentially, is what it was,

495
00:21:32.920 --> 00:21:35.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, And that's all that's just Enlisted in that show.

496
00:21:36.000 --> 00:21:38.880
<v Speaker 3>Another issue with Enlisted was the vehicle came play and

497
00:21:38.920 --> 00:21:41.559
<v Speaker 3>which was nice, was about the infantry mode. It definitely

498
00:21:41.559 --> 00:21:44.200
<v Speaker 3>handles exactly like you're worth on their vehicles handle, which

499
00:21:44.240 --> 00:21:48.039
<v Speaker 3>is really nice, really nice because it feels like a natural.

500
00:21:47.799 --> 00:21:49.799
<v Speaker 1>Addition of war th Under. Yeah, if you were to

501
00:21:49.839 --> 00:21:52.880
<v Speaker 1>play an Abrams in just.

502
00:21:52.799 --> 00:21:55.200
<v Speaker 2>Say ground realism, yeah, you're gonna have a very similar

503
00:21:55.240 --> 00:21:59.680
<v Speaker 2>experience in infantry right in terms of how the mechanics

504
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<v Speaker 2>feel to you.

505
00:22:00.400 --> 00:22:02.440
<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be like ground sim if you ever played

506
00:22:02.440 --> 00:22:04.960
<v Speaker 3>ground sim before, That's exactly what it's gonna feel like.

507
00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:05.799
<v Speaker 3>You're stuck to your.

508
00:22:05.680 --> 00:22:09.480
<v Speaker 1>Commanders, everybody. But at the same time, it's a nice balance.

509
00:22:09.519 --> 00:22:12.359
<v Speaker 2>I was talking to another one of our Only Snails people,

510
00:22:12.400 --> 00:22:15.440
<v Speaker 2>that's the stream team over on Twitch. It was Bunny,

511
00:22:15.440 --> 00:22:18.920
<v Speaker 2>and we were talking about, you know what infantry looks

512
00:22:18.960 --> 00:22:21.599
<v Speaker 2>like now versus Nike armor reforged because it's not trying

513
00:22:21.599 --> 00:22:23.799
<v Speaker 2>to be armor either, but in terms of like you

514
00:22:23.920 --> 00:22:27.240
<v Speaker 2>having a gunner spot, a captains or commander spot, that

515
00:22:27.279 --> 00:22:29.279
<v Speaker 2>would be more similar to Arma, but it has the

516
00:22:29.319 --> 00:22:32.119
<v Speaker 2>mechanical feel of war Thunder, So yeah, you're not going

517
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<v Speaker 2>full in the deep end of pure ultra realism, you know.

518
00:22:34.920 --> 00:22:38.680
<v Speaker 3>And that's yeah. And another thing that was huge was

519
00:22:38.720 --> 00:22:41.079
<v Speaker 3>the player count because it's like, you know, war Thunder

520
00:22:41.359 --> 00:22:44.480
<v Speaker 3>natively is sixteen v sixteen on pretty much all the modes,

521
00:22:44.960 --> 00:22:47.680
<v Speaker 3>and you know, sixteen v sixteen, bro, if you look

522
00:22:47.799 --> 00:22:52.599
<v Speaker 3>back at infantry games, sixteen v. Sixteen hasn't really been

523
00:22:52.599 --> 00:22:55.480
<v Speaker 3>a thing since the old GIN consoles, the old old GIN,

524
00:22:55.640 --> 00:22:58.640
<v Speaker 3>like like the Xbox three sixty days were like twelve

525
00:22:58.680 --> 00:23:02.359
<v Speaker 3>to twelve, you know. So like I was preaching age.

526
00:23:02.440 --> 00:23:04.640
<v Speaker 2>I remember when thirty two Verse thirty two came out

527
00:23:04.680 --> 00:23:07.559
<v Speaker 2>with Battlefield and that was huge.

528
00:23:07.640 --> 00:23:10.799
<v Speaker 3>Oh she has monumental life. Yeah, And so I was like,

529
00:23:10.880 --> 00:23:12.799
<v Speaker 3>they need to get rid of the bots and increase

530
00:23:12.920 --> 00:23:16.119
<v Speaker 3>player account. I've been saying, honestly, they should get rid

531
00:23:16.160 --> 00:23:19.880
<v Speaker 3>of the vehicles and really hammer home the gunplay for

532
00:23:19.920 --> 00:23:23.599
<v Speaker 3>the first year, and once the gunplay gets really really smooth,

533
00:23:23.839 --> 00:23:26.400
<v Speaker 3>then start bringing the vehicles in. But they did something

534
00:23:26.440 --> 00:23:30.279
<v Speaker 3>which I didn't expect, and they've limited how many vehicles

535
00:23:30.279 --> 00:23:32.480
<v Speaker 3>your team can spawn at one time, which is kind

536
00:23:32.480 --> 00:23:34.559
<v Speaker 3>of unique and it's not something we've really seen that

537
00:23:34.640 --> 00:23:36.519
<v Speaker 3>much and worth on there before, and it is kind

538
00:23:36.519 --> 00:23:36.720
<v Speaker 3>of that.

539
00:23:37.279 --> 00:23:41.359
<v Speaker 2>That's part why I brought up the battlefield common yeah, earlier,

540
00:23:41.440 --> 00:23:42.599
<v Speaker 2>very battle second.

541
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<v Speaker 1>Because that's how it is there to try to give

542
00:23:43.920 --> 00:23:45.119
<v Speaker 1>them the balance exactly.

543
00:23:45.160 --> 00:23:47.240
<v Speaker 2>And you've also got to think how many spots of

544
00:23:47.279 --> 00:23:48.759
<v Speaker 2>that sixteen verse sixteen does each.

545
00:23:48.720 --> 00:23:52.319
<v Speaker 1>Vehicle take up exactly? Yeah, and I do like that.

546
00:23:52.400 --> 00:23:54.799
<v Speaker 3>But now, yeah, so now if you guys didn't see

547
00:23:55.319 --> 00:23:58.720
<v Speaker 3>this new infantry test, they came out with no bots

548
00:23:58.839 --> 00:24:00.920
<v Speaker 3>unless your team's not full. But it's not giving you

549
00:24:01.000 --> 00:24:04.720
<v Speaker 3>bot squads. It's just filling your squads with you know,

550
00:24:05.279 --> 00:24:07.599
<v Speaker 3>bought players if they can't get enough. But I'm sure

551
00:24:07.599 --> 00:24:09.920
<v Speaker 3>when it comes out there's almost two hundred thousand people

552
00:24:09.920 --> 00:24:12.400
<v Speaker 3>that play this game, you know it's gonna fill it's

553
00:24:12.400 --> 00:24:14.119
<v Speaker 3>gonna fill up your team. You know, at the moment

554
00:24:14.240 --> 00:24:17.319
<v Speaker 3>close beta testers less players. It's been adding some bots,

555
00:24:17.359 --> 00:24:19.839
<v Speaker 3>but they got rid of the bots. They made it

556
00:24:19.960 --> 00:24:23.319
<v Speaker 3>sixty four for sixty four now. So now it's one

557
00:24:23.400 --> 00:24:26.920
<v Speaker 3>hundred and twenty eight players per game, which is unheard

558
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<v Speaker 3>of of any guideon game I've ever played.

559
00:24:28.880 --> 00:24:31.160
<v Speaker 1>I've never heard of GUIDs and I've never seen them do.

560
00:24:31.440 --> 00:24:34.160
<v Speaker 3>And they limited the vehicles, which was really cool.

561
00:24:34.279 --> 00:24:36.240
<v Speaker 2>I'll go as far as to say, I'm curious to

562
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<v Speaker 2>see if it sustains or if they walk back to

563
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<v Speaker 2>like thirty two.

564
00:24:39.519 --> 00:24:40.079
<v Speaker 1>Thirty two.

565
00:24:40.200 --> 00:24:42.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, sixty not that I'm twenty eight is huge.

566
00:24:42.400 --> 00:24:43.839
<v Speaker 1>But I will say one thing.

567
00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:45.880
<v Speaker 2>We did just brag about war th Under being so

568
00:24:46.000 --> 00:24:49.599
<v Speaker 2>good with almost any device you see Xbox, Yeah, the

569
00:24:49.720 --> 00:24:52.440
<v Speaker 2>sixty four verse sixty four will be a problem for

570
00:24:52.480 --> 00:24:56.000
<v Speaker 2>low end devices. I would they get really really good

571
00:24:56.000 --> 00:24:59.200
<v Speaker 2>at optimizing war th Under, which they could, to be clear,

572
00:24:59.640 --> 00:25:01.720
<v Speaker 2>but that will be something they have.

573
00:25:02.279 --> 00:25:04.240
<v Speaker 3>I've heard. Yeah, I've heard a lot of my streamer

574
00:25:04.279 --> 00:25:07.839
<v Speaker 3>friends had issue running running it on high end. So yeah,

575
00:25:07.839 --> 00:25:10.079
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure they're optimize it. It's a brand new map,

576
00:25:10.400 --> 00:25:13.279
<v Speaker 3>it's a brand new amount of players. It's it's gonna

577
00:25:13.279 --> 00:25:15.680
<v Speaker 3>take them a while, and hopefully hopefully we don't see

578
00:25:15.680 --> 00:25:19.880
<v Speaker 3>infantry until like Christmas. That's my my hope is they

579
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<v Speaker 3>take another nine months and they do three more tests

580
00:25:22.920 --> 00:25:25.160
<v Speaker 3>every two or three months, and then they really come

581
00:25:25.200 --> 00:25:27.279
<v Speaker 3>out with a really good product and they just kind

582
00:25:27.319 --> 00:25:29.759
<v Speaker 3>of they just sort of gatekeep it from us just

583
00:25:29.799 --> 00:25:31.759
<v Speaker 3>a little bit more and more every month. That would

584
00:25:31.759 --> 00:25:34.200
<v Speaker 3>be really nice, but who knows.

585
00:25:35.319 --> 00:25:36.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I'm curious.

586
00:25:37.240 --> 00:25:39.440
<v Speaker 2>We'd have to talk to game design to see where

587
00:25:39.440 --> 00:25:41.039
<v Speaker 2>they feel like they're aut on that in terms of

588
00:25:41.160 --> 00:25:43.759
<v Speaker 2>because usually once you reach the beta phase that they're

589
00:25:43.759 --> 00:25:47.319
<v Speaker 2>in now, you're probably under a year for sure, sometimes

590
00:25:47.319 --> 00:25:49.200
<v Speaker 2>as early as you know, three to six months from

591
00:25:49.279 --> 00:25:53.799
<v Speaker 2>an actual release. I personally, especially coinciding with what they

592
00:25:53.799 --> 00:25:58.240
<v Speaker 2>typically do historically with sales, I would actually put my prediction,

593
00:25:58.400 --> 00:26:00.960
<v Speaker 2>which could very well be wrong, anywhere between May and July,

594
00:26:01.240 --> 00:26:03.319
<v Speaker 2>to either hit the sale that happens in May usually

595
00:26:03.440 --> 00:26:04.400
<v Speaker 2>or the fourth of July.

596
00:26:04.799 --> 00:26:08.039
<v Speaker 1>Maybe the fourth of July in particular could be very.

597
00:26:07.759 --> 00:26:11.720
<v Speaker 2>Big for them because it's just, yeah, so state the obvious,

598
00:26:11.799 --> 00:26:13.880
<v Speaker 2>this game's trying to make money. That would be a

599
00:26:13.960 --> 00:26:17.720
<v Speaker 2>huge money making weekend if Infantry dropped coinciding with fourth

600
00:26:17.720 --> 00:26:18.079
<v Speaker 2>of July.

601
00:26:18.200 --> 00:26:22.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, My only concern with time frame is I believe

602
00:26:23.480 --> 00:26:27.440
<v Speaker 3>I quote me if I'm wrong, but I sorry, you know,

603
00:26:27.799 --> 00:26:29.839
<v Speaker 3>correct me if I'm wrong, But no quote them too.

604
00:26:29.960 --> 00:26:31.839
<v Speaker 3>Quote if I'm qualified. Yeah, it's fine.

605
00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Hey, I remember twenty seven minutes of this podcast was

606
00:26:35.039 --> 00:26:35.799
<v Speaker 1>talking shit.

607
00:26:36.839 --> 00:26:41.279
<v Speaker 3>They I'm I'm fairly certain. The devs did say on

608
00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:44.119
<v Speaker 3>stream that it's not going to be modern when it

609
00:26:44.160 --> 00:26:47.200
<v Speaker 3>comes out. It's supposed to be like it's supposed to

610
00:26:47.200 --> 00:26:49.759
<v Speaker 3>pick Up or Enlisted is right now, which is about

611
00:26:49.960 --> 00:26:53.920
<v Speaker 3>Korea into the Cold War. So you know, they've only

612
00:26:53.920 --> 00:26:56.240
<v Speaker 3>shown us modern stuff. So I don't really know how

613
00:26:56.319 --> 00:26:58.720
<v Speaker 3>much they've done in the back end. You know, I

614
00:26:58.759 --> 00:27:02.119
<v Speaker 3>don't know if they have all that stuff ready to

615
00:27:02.119 --> 00:27:05.880
<v Speaker 3>go or you know, I don't know for I don't know.

616
00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:09.039
<v Speaker 2>Tree was it to start exactly how twenty twenty five

617
00:27:09.079 --> 00:27:10.519
<v Speaker 2>April Fools was, which.

618
00:27:10.359 --> 00:27:13.319
<v Speaker 3>Was World War One. That'd be awesome. I would love

619
00:27:14.400 --> 00:27:16.720
<v Speaker 3>that'd cat fives. That'd be so cool.

620
00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:18.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, same, that's what I want.

621
00:27:18.960 --> 00:27:23.559
<v Speaker 3>I I yeah, I I would prefer if they am

622
00:27:23.640 --> 00:27:25.720
<v Speaker 3>because this is going to kill Enlisted. This is the

623
00:27:25.839 --> 00:27:28.240
<v Speaker 3>end of Enlisted, and Listen is dead. I think if

624
00:27:28.240 --> 00:27:31.759
<v Speaker 3>you're spending money and Enlisted in twenty twenty six, maybe

625
00:27:31.839 --> 00:27:36.480
<v Speaker 3>rethink your finances. That game is going to die. This

626
00:27:36.559 --> 00:27:37.480
<v Speaker 3>is going to be the death.

627
00:27:37.519 --> 00:27:39.759
<v Speaker 1>It's a really bad shilling for guiding. Right now, this

628
00:27:39.839 --> 00:27:40.279
<v Speaker 1>is this.

629
00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:42.720
<v Speaker 3>Is going to be the death of enlisted And I

630
00:27:42.759 --> 00:27:45.880
<v Speaker 3>think what they should do is anyone who spent money

631
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<v Speaker 3>and listened to anyone who has game time enlisted, bring that

632
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<v Speaker 3>over in the War Thunder. Put World War Two in

633
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<v Speaker 3>the War Thunder. Give people their premium squads if they

634
00:27:54.359 --> 00:27:57.680
<v Speaker 3>bought premium squads, or give them compensation in the War

635
00:27:57.720 --> 00:27:59.799
<v Speaker 3>Thunder if they spent x amount of money and then

636
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<v Speaker 3>lit and just bring World War two. And everyone loves

637
00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:06.039
<v Speaker 3>World War two shooters. Every other vehicle, every other branch

638
00:28:06.119 --> 00:28:08.519
<v Speaker 3>in War Thunder starts at World War Two. Just let

639
00:28:08.599 --> 00:28:10.319
<v Speaker 3>us start at World War two and go from there.

640
00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:12.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't think anyone is dying to have a new

641
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<v Speaker 3>modern shooter. Every single game in twenty twenty six it

642
00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:18.960
<v Speaker 3>comes out seems to be a modern first person shooter,

643
00:28:19.039 --> 00:28:19.440
<v Speaker 3>and like.

644
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<v Speaker 2>If there's one lesson, Hopefully things like Call of Duty

645
00:28:23.000 --> 00:28:26.039
<v Speaker 2>and Battlefield taught people over the past fifteen years because

646
00:28:26.119 --> 00:28:29.079
<v Speaker 2>all of them tried to do a modern run and

647
00:28:29.279 --> 00:28:31.640
<v Speaker 2>all of them to a degree failed. Now I'm sure

648
00:28:31.680 --> 00:28:34.440
<v Speaker 2>there's somebody who comments on the YouTube or messages later

649
00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:36.880
<v Speaker 2>after listening to on iHeartRadio or something like.

650
00:28:36.880 --> 00:28:41.279
<v Speaker 1>Hey, they sold five million copies. It was actually a success. Cool.

651
00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:45.279
<v Speaker 2>Whatever point is, what did they do? They went back

652
00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:48.799
<v Speaker 2>to old timing. Yep, right, they almost always go back.

653
00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:52.200
<v Speaker 2>There's clamor now for people bring back Medal of Honor

654
00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:53.880
<v Speaker 2>because everybody wants to go back to World War two

655
00:28:53.920 --> 00:28:54.400
<v Speaker 2>and stuff.

656
00:28:54.720 --> 00:28:56.279
<v Speaker 1>Not saying that modern can't work.

657
00:28:56.319 --> 00:28:58.880
<v Speaker 2>I would actually argue Battlefield six has shown that it

658
00:28:58.920 --> 00:29:02.720
<v Speaker 2>can work, even though Battlefield six i'd call semi modern

659
00:29:02.759 --> 00:29:05.599
<v Speaker 2>because Battlefield six certainly has not adapted to the level

660
00:29:05.640 --> 00:29:08.039
<v Speaker 2>of drone play that is in modern warfare today and

661
00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:10.559
<v Speaker 2>all that other stuff. But just that to your point,

662
00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:13.079
<v Speaker 2>people clamor for World War one, world War two, to

663
00:29:13.200 --> 00:29:16.440
<v Speaker 2>a degree, even the Korean Vietnam era. Yeah, and I

664
00:29:16.440 --> 00:29:19.000
<v Speaker 2>would love to see that represented. I'll be honest, Guijen.

665
00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:21.880
<v Speaker 2>If you release it and it's you have those aspects

666
00:29:21.920 --> 00:29:22.799
<v Speaker 2>beyond just modern.

667
00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:25.359
<v Speaker 1>Not that I won't say it won't.

668
00:29:25.119 --> 00:29:27.640
<v Speaker 2>Be enjoyable, but I probably will never play modern. If

669
00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:29.519
<v Speaker 2>you give me the option to be in trench warfare

670
00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:32.440
<v Speaker 2>in World War One or you know, being a tank

671
00:29:32.519 --> 00:29:35.200
<v Speaker 2>chaser world War two, I'm probably gonna stick to let's

672
00:29:35.240 --> 00:29:38.440
<v Speaker 2>just call it what be what would be the match

673
00:29:38.519 --> 00:29:39.039
<v Speaker 2>for ground.

674
00:29:39.160 --> 00:29:41.400
<v Speaker 1>Let's just call it three point oh br I will

675
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<v Speaker 1>just live there. I'll never leave.

676
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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah. I think the issue with modern stuff, and

677
00:29:45.880 --> 00:29:48.519
<v Speaker 3>I'm really concerned about how Guidgen is handling their infantry

678
00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:52.079
<v Speaker 3>is they're already bringing in all that kind of stuff

679
00:29:52.079 --> 00:29:55.119
<v Speaker 3>you're seeing in modern wars happening right now with the

680
00:29:55.200 --> 00:29:58.799
<v Speaker 3>drones and all this stuff. And it's like, why.

681
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<v Speaker 2>Everybody thinks they can do it right, right, We're the

682
00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:01.440
<v Speaker 2>ones who are going to get it right.

683
00:30:01.559 --> 00:30:04.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they will. I think it's overset the parade.

684
00:30:05.119 --> 00:30:07.119
<v Speaker 2>You know, we'll see. Like I said in the very

685
00:30:07.119 --> 00:30:09.519
<v Speaker 2>beginning of the show, you know, judge for yourself. Please

686
00:30:09.559 --> 00:30:12.000
<v Speaker 2>don't just take what me and Gail are saying as gospel. Yeah,

687
00:30:12.000 --> 00:30:15.480
<v Speaker 2>but for me, as somebody who gives the money, who

688
00:30:15.519 --> 00:30:17.880
<v Speaker 2>pays for things, who plays the game for over a decade,

689
00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:19.440
<v Speaker 2>I won World War One and worl War two.

690
00:30:20.240 --> 00:30:23.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would love World War two in the Cold War,

691
00:30:23.160 --> 00:30:25.480
<v Speaker 3>like the eighties at most would be cool because I

692
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<v Speaker 3>think that's where warth Under, in my opinion, stopped being

693
00:30:29.319 --> 00:30:32.839
<v Speaker 3>perfectly balanced. Not perfectly balanced, but well balanced. I think

694
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<v Speaker 3>if you're thinking of like the ground trees, I would

695
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<v Speaker 3>say nine nine oh to nine seven kind of whereas

696
00:30:39.480 --> 00:30:43.880
<v Speaker 3>where warth Unders started to really drop in people getting

697
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<v Speaker 3>irritated with the game mechanics, And same for Air. It's

698
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<v Speaker 3>about that same area. I would say air about eleven

699
00:30:50.319 --> 00:30:53.680
<v Speaker 3>oh to eleven seven's really will you start losing a

700
00:30:53.680 --> 00:30:57.720
<v Speaker 3>lot of your sense of balance? And I think they

701
00:30:57.720 --> 00:31:00.200
<v Speaker 3>could stick with infantry in that same area and do

702
00:31:00.319 --> 00:31:01.359
<v Speaker 3>well because I don't know.

703
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<v Speaker 2>I love so much of that stuff. But kind of

704
00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:07.960
<v Speaker 2>like you're saying, like, do I enjoy the thaight ud? No?

705
00:31:08.079 --> 00:31:10.240
<v Speaker 1>But I have it. Yeah, I can play it to people.

706
00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:12.359
<v Speaker 2>Won't like if my stream won'ts too, But is it

707
00:31:12.440 --> 00:31:15.519
<v Speaker 2>enjoyable compared to the first time you take out a

708
00:31:15.559 --> 00:31:18.839
<v Speaker 2>Tiger one? Right, it just doesn't have that level of

709
00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:22.160
<v Speaker 2>feel and balance and gravitas, right because you get up

710
00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:25.960
<v Speaker 2>into thirteen oh, whether it's air or ground, and something

711
00:31:26.000 --> 00:31:28.680
<v Speaker 2>that you know in the quote unquote real world, which

712
00:31:28.680 --> 00:31:31.200
<v Speaker 2>would never win in this fight, is one shotting you

713
00:31:31.519 --> 00:31:32.440
<v Speaker 2>gets real tired.

714
00:31:32.839 --> 00:31:35.839
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, oh yeah, when everyone's run around at forty five

715
00:31:35.839 --> 00:31:37.880
<v Speaker 3>miles per hour with a laser range finder, the auto

716
00:31:37.920 --> 00:31:40.039
<v Speaker 3>adjust your site and they have a dart that pins

717
00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:42.480
<v Speaker 3>six hundred millimeters. Yeah, you're just pretty much done. Yeah,

718
00:31:42.519 --> 00:31:42.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean.

719
00:31:43.279 --> 00:31:46.839
<v Speaker 2>AA's and SPGs, one shot your barrel, all these things

720
00:31:46.839 --> 00:31:48.240
<v Speaker 2>happening that wouldn't actually and.

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<v Speaker 3>That and that brings me into my final concern about infantry,

722
00:31:51.799 --> 00:31:56.599
<v Speaker 3>and that is the inherent issues with Guidgen and their servers.

723
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<v Speaker 3>And if you've ever played a first person shooter before I,

724
00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:02.799
<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's pretty much anything I would ever play

725
00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:05.039
<v Speaker 3>until I got Heavy and the warth Under. You know,

726
00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:08.480
<v Speaker 3>first been shooters were my thing and the thing you

727
00:32:08.599 --> 00:32:11.720
<v Speaker 3>noticed the first. When it comes to a new game,

728
00:32:12.039 --> 00:32:14.880
<v Speaker 3>especially like on launch day, launch week, launch weekend, whatever,

729
00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:18.400
<v Speaker 3>if you are getting killed from around corners that you

730
00:32:18.440 --> 00:32:21.599
<v Speaker 3>know you're not speaking anymore, that is gonna make the

731
00:32:21.640 --> 00:32:25.799
<v Speaker 3>game feel terrible, and Guidgen is really bad about that.

732
00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:30.799
<v Speaker 3>The net code, the latency in Guidance servers late now nowadays,

733
00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:33.160
<v Speaker 3>especially the last six months to a year, has been

734
00:32:33.200 --> 00:32:35.599
<v Speaker 3>worse than I think I've ever seen it before. And

735
00:32:36.079 --> 00:32:39.279
<v Speaker 3>that is gonna be so exaggerated when it comes to infantry,

736
00:32:39.279 --> 00:32:41.279
<v Speaker 3>and I'm really concerned about what that's gonna do to

737
00:32:41.319 --> 00:32:44.440
<v Speaker 3>the game mode, especially since they're upping the player count

738
00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:47.680
<v Speaker 3>times four, you know, so like, how are they gonna

739
00:32:47.720 --> 00:32:49.640
<v Speaker 3>do Are they gonna do that? How they gonna combat that?

740
00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:50.480
<v Speaker 1>Possible?

741
00:32:50.519 --> 00:32:52.839
<v Speaker 2>They they could segment it and you know, have the

742
00:32:52.880 --> 00:32:56.680
<v Speaker 2>bandwidth dedicated to that. But for example, and again this

743
00:32:56.720 --> 00:32:59.279
<v Speaker 2>is anecdotal, I don't have numbers. We can talk to

744
00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:01.400
<v Speaker 2>the devs and maybe I'll share this, But like, I

745
00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:04.359
<v Speaker 2>run into paying and latency issues.

746
00:33:03.920 --> 00:33:07.119
<v Speaker 1>Far more in naval than I do ground.

747
00:33:07.480 --> 00:33:10.519
<v Speaker 2>And my logic that I assume is, well, they have

748
00:33:10.640 --> 00:33:12.839
<v Speaker 2>less people doing blue water, so we want to make

749
00:33:12.880 --> 00:33:15.240
<v Speaker 2>sure we divert more resources to something they are doing

750
00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:17.720
<v Speaker 2>more of, which is like high tier air. That's the

751
00:33:17.799 --> 00:33:20.920
<v Speaker 2>least amount of drops that I ever get. And I'm

752
00:33:20.920 --> 00:33:22.559
<v Speaker 2>not saying I don't get them because aybody plays war

753
00:33:22.599 --> 00:33:25.519
<v Speaker 2>Thunder says it's never crashed on them, doesn't play war Hune.

754
00:33:25.519 --> 00:33:28.640
<v Speaker 2>They're playing something else, right, Yeah, they just are. It

755
00:33:28.680 --> 00:33:31.799
<v Speaker 2>crashes for all of us sometimes. But I get far

756
00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:34.480
<v Speaker 2>less of that if I'm like in like I said,

757
00:33:34.519 --> 00:33:38.440
<v Speaker 2>an F sixteen C than if I'm in my uss Iowa, Yeah,

758
00:33:38.440 --> 00:33:41.200
<v Speaker 2>which will like, Oh, I've been shooting the same boat

759
00:33:41.319 --> 00:33:44.240
<v Speaker 2>for three minutes. Oh never mind, you weren't shooting anything.

760
00:33:44.279 --> 00:33:46.759
<v Speaker 1>Disconnect. Oh and here's a five minute penalty because you

761
00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:50.519
<v Speaker 1>quit the match. I didn't quit shit, Guijen, thank you.

762
00:33:50.759 --> 00:33:54.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah. And that's that's been the rumor lately because

763
00:33:55.000 --> 00:33:58.759
<v Speaker 3>ever since they announced Infantry back in November, December or

764
00:33:58.759 --> 00:34:00.640
<v Speaker 3>whatever it was, and they came out with the fors CBT,

765
00:34:02.000 --> 00:34:04.440
<v Speaker 3>people have noticed that the servers were really bad, and

766
00:34:04.680 --> 00:34:07.519
<v Speaker 3>people notice that there weren't a lot of big changes

767
00:34:07.519 --> 00:34:10.559
<v Speaker 3>being made of the game, and everyone's been the rumor

768
00:34:10.599 --> 00:34:14.480
<v Speaker 3>mill has been that they're their diverting resources to new

769
00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:18.440
<v Speaker 3>server infrastructure or for these tests, because they're running a

770
00:34:18.440 --> 00:34:20.559
<v Speaker 3>lot of these tests behind the scenes. You know, I've

771
00:34:20.559 --> 00:34:22.559
<v Speaker 3>heard of people that have access that even me and

772
00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:24.840
<v Speaker 3>you haven't got access to, and they can make YouTube

773
00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:27.199
<v Speaker 3>videos and stuff on it. It's like, you know, and

774
00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:32.199
<v Speaker 3>it seems like maybe they're restructuring their whole server infrastructure

775
00:34:32.239 --> 00:34:36.480
<v Speaker 3>to start focusing on these more high end, higher capacity

776
00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:41.159
<v Speaker 3>servers for Infantry, and you know, and maybe, and you know,

777
00:34:41.239 --> 00:34:43.519
<v Speaker 3>and you know, and I really hope, because you know,

778
00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:46.440
<v Speaker 3>let's be real, If Infantry doesn't take off, where's worth

779
00:34:46.519 --> 00:34:49.599
<v Speaker 3>under In two years, it's out of vehicles, it's out

780
00:34:49.639 --> 00:34:52.880
<v Speaker 3>of notable updates, and it's probably gonna start dropping a

781
00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:55.360
<v Speaker 3>lot of player counts. It'll never die. You can't take

782
00:34:55.400 --> 00:34:57.480
<v Speaker 3>one of the top ten fifteen played games in the

783
00:34:57.480 --> 00:35:00.039
<v Speaker 3>world and make it die just because you know, you

784
00:35:00.639 --> 00:35:03.360
<v Speaker 3>run out of vehicles. It's not it's gonna take years

785
00:35:03.400 --> 00:35:05.199
<v Speaker 3>because some people are never going to have those new

786
00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:09.119
<v Speaker 3>vehicles for another ten years, you know. But you know,

787
00:35:09.440 --> 00:35:11.880
<v Speaker 3>if we need kind of infantry to take off, and

788
00:35:12.119 --> 00:35:15.519
<v Speaker 3>you know, streamers have been saying lately that maybe that's

789
00:35:15.559 --> 00:35:17.079
<v Speaker 3>not the kind of player base they want in their

790
00:35:17.119 --> 00:35:19.280
<v Speaker 3>favorite game. They don't really want those first person shooter

791
00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:20.960
<v Speaker 3>people coming over. But at the end of the day,

792
00:35:21.320 --> 00:35:23.000
<v Speaker 3>we kind of need it to be good. And I

793
00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:26.320
<v Speaker 3>really hope that Guidgen you know, takes it. They take

794
00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:28.960
<v Speaker 3>their time, they take their time, they make the right changes,

795
00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:31.480
<v Speaker 3>and they make it really good because it could take

796
00:35:31.639 --> 00:35:34.559
<v Speaker 3>worth under into a you know, at most five more

797
00:35:34.639 --> 00:35:37.719
<v Speaker 3>year live span to another ten year lifespan, you know,

798
00:35:38.119 --> 00:35:40.320
<v Speaker 3>because people are going to come in people have never

799
00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:42.960
<v Speaker 3>played a vehicle combat sim before. They might come in

800
00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:44.639
<v Speaker 3>to play infantry and they're like, Hey, I want to

801
00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:46.679
<v Speaker 3>go work on this tank because I don't have that tank.

802
00:35:47.039 --> 00:35:48.960
<v Speaker 3>I kind of want that tank. And then they start

803
00:35:49.000 --> 00:35:50.440
<v Speaker 3>working on the ground trees, they start working on the

804
00:35:50.480 --> 00:35:52.599
<v Speaker 3>air trees, the helicopter trees, and all of a sudden

805
00:35:52.880 --> 00:35:56.159
<v Speaker 3>you have, you know, five million more people that are

806
00:35:56.360 --> 00:35:58.199
<v Speaker 3>that are just in the vehicle combat sims that just

807
00:35:58.199 --> 00:35:59.480
<v Speaker 3>play worth them there all the time. So you know,

808
00:35:59.679 --> 00:36:02.639
<v Speaker 3>hopeful it's really good and hopefully it does well. But

809
00:36:03.360 --> 00:36:04.719
<v Speaker 3>I guess well, we'll just have to wait and see

810
00:36:04.760 --> 00:36:06.079
<v Speaker 3>and we'll be here to yap about it as it

811
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<v Speaker 3>keeps coming.

812
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<v Speaker 2>So if you're a chatter of streams in terms you

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<v Speaker 2>just enjoyed listening to podcasts, let's know what you think.

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<v Speaker 2>for watching the first episode of the Thunderbuddies podcast and listening,

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<v Speaker 1>We're perfect and we appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 3>If you have any concerns, yep, feel free to hit

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<v Speaker 3>us up. I know me and Rev are both online

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<v Speaker 3>all the time. He's pointing at me. Hit me up.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess if you have any questions concerns about anything

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<v Speaker 3>we said.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah right, I'll answer faster than Gail competition. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>so you.

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<v Speaker 2>Appreciate y'all, Thank y'all, and y'all go be great. Unlike

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<v Speaker 2>the AM seven B it sucks, y'all gonna be great

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, m m mmmmmmmmm hmm
