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<v Speaker 1>our one, Apparently I was on trial, at least that's

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<v Speaker 1>what Chris, one of our callers said. I was on

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<v Speaker 1>more on the Lakers. Bill Plaski the LA Times joins

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<v Speaker 1>the show and Bill, thank you for joining us and.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a crazy time for the Lakers, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'll tell you something right off the top. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they have reconstructed the roster. I think they're giving fans hope.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's huge, I think, but I think the hope,

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<v Speaker 2>the hope is not for this year though. I got

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<v Speaker 2>to cuture Laker fans. Mark Williams is a nice kid,

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<v Speaker 2>but Ad dropped forty two and twenty three on the

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<v Speaker 2>last time he played about last week. He was ripped

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<v Speaker 2>for his effort by the Charlotte broadcast just two days ago.

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<v Speaker 2>He's been a completely underachiever. So I worry that Rob

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<v Speaker 2>Plinker took a big swim with this when hitting Mark Williams.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think for the future, with Luca and gain

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<v Speaker 2>Ad out of here, it's huge. The next step and

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<v Speaker 2>I know you're not going to probably agree with me

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<v Speaker 2>on this, Rodney, the next step has got to be

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron's got to opt out after this year and give

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<v Speaker 2>him more space and more room to more flexibility to

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<v Speaker 2>make this Lucas team.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm not I'm not disagreeing with that.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that if they're going to rebuild, they got

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<v Speaker 4>to rebuild but I think what I've been saying is

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<v Speaker 4>that to your point of just Laker fans, you got

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<v Speaker 4>pumpy breakes a little bit because it's it's not gonna,

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<v Speaker 4>first of all, happen overnight. And secondly, we got to

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<v Speaker 4>be sure that that first of all, Luca's going to

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<v Speaker 4>be around. You gotta sign again and is he Is

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<v Speaker 4>he the guy that you want to build around. He's

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<v Speaker 4>a super talented I mean super talented like we've never

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<v Speaker 4>seen before scores mind you of the way Larry Bird

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<v Speaker 4>used to score at will on people. So tremendous talent.

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<v Speaker 4>But there's a reason they shift him out of Dallas. Bill,

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<v Speaker 4>there's a reason motivates him.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking this, this is tremendous motivation for him. You

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<v Speaker 2>could tell when the press conference on Tuesday he was

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<v Speaker 2>very motivated. This, This is exactly what he needs to

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<v Speaker 2>get off his butt, was the way get in shape,

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<v Speaker 2>being the leader he can be. I think this he

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<v Speaker 2>wants to prove the Gallas they that they're wrong. He

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<v Speaker 2>wants to prove the whole NBA, NBA that they were wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>This is perfect with Luca. So I'm not worried about

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<v Speaker 2>Luke at all. I think he's gonna be just fine.

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<v Speaker 2>He's gonna be a great leader. There was such a

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<v Speaker 2>great move. It's it's an incredible move. It's incredible, they

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<v Speaker 2>got it great. It's just just incredible. But again, that's

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<v Speaker 2>not capa the last big move. I say it again,

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<v Speaker 2>You don't.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't think Mark Williams.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't think Mark Williams is the guy kind of

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<v Speaker 4>compliments him going forward.

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<v Speaker 2>He would be if he played more, if he played harder,

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<v Speaker 2>if you played defense. Again, AD dropped forty two and

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three armers just last week in Charlotte. So I

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<v Speaker 2>mean he's not He's only average, like twenty games of

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<v Speaker 2>the year, and it's three years there in the league.

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<v Speaker 2>He hasn't he hasn't proven to have the stamina or

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<v Speaker 2>the physical capability. Is estallis. He almost had another AD,

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<v Speaker 2>but a lot worse. So I worried about him. I

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<v Speaker 2>worry about Mark Williams. I wonder about giving up Dalton connect.

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<v Speaker 2>I love him. Can you guys love him?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So that hurts. So I don't think I think

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<v Speaker 2>Rob wanted a big band for Lebron. I think this

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<v Speaker 2>is probably Lebron's consolation prize. Lebron Lebron can't be happy, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he can't. He can't be thrilled. That's no

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<v Speaker 2>longer his team, he's no w to call in the shots,

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<v Speaker 2>he's no longer in charge for the first time in

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<v Speaker 2>his life, right, this is Luka Dantic's team. Lebron can't

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<v Speaker 2>be thrilled. So I think Rob is trying to tell him,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to compete while you're here. We're still trying

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<v Speaker 2>to win a championship. I can't. I just don't believe

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<v Speaker 2>listening to Lebron the other night saying he's he's here

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<v Speaker 2>for now, he's he's committed for now. I can't believe.

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<v Speaker 2>If they don't win this year, which they're not going to,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think he's still I don't think I don't

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<v Speaker 2>see him staying around after this year.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we've kicked this around a little bit, and

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<v Speaker 1>I made the same point you did. The Lakers now

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<v Speaker 1>need to get on with it. I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's remarkable that during.

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<v Speaker 2>The season get on with it. I agree, that's a

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<v Speaker 2>great way. That's ware way to put it.

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<v Speaker 1>During the season, they've changed the entire complexion of the roster.

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<v Speaker 1>Now good or bad right or wrong. During the season,

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<v Speaker 1>they have said because of the moves they've made, like

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<v Speaker 1>them or not, we're going this way now, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>this way. That's done, and we're going the other way.

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<v Speaker 1>And if that's the case with Lebron, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I think for him, and I said this to Rodney,

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<v Speaker 1>go in another one. You've you deserve the right go

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<v Speaker 1>you should, You've earned that. You are one of the

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<v Speaker 1>greatest of all time. But as for the Lakers, let

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<v Speaker 1>them get on with their business, let them go forward, now,

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<v Speaker 1>let them move in a different direction. I'm not arguing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was surprised, as I was surprised. I know,

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron's got his family here, it's businesses here, it's stuns here.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm surprised he meant they didn't trade trade ad, he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't askalt. I'm surprised he didn't try to get out

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<v Speaker 2>before the trade deadline. I'm surprised he's I'm surprised he's

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<v Speaker 2>still here, I really am. I know he's committed to

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<v Speaker 2>LA he committed to his business and his family. He's

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<v Speaker 2>a great family guy. Everybody loves him.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think, I know, I think, I think, if if,

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<v Speaker 4>if this thing didn't happen in the middle of the night.

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<v Speaker 4>You might be right, but it happened so quickly that

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think you know. And Lebron's not quite a

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<v Speaker 4>knee jerk kind of guy, so I think he was.

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<v Speaker 4>He is continuously for the rest of the season gonna

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<v Speaker 4>weigh his options. But it was just I think the

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<v Speaker 4>way it went down, and basically nobody knew uh the

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<v Speaker 4>Luca ad trade, that it it hit everybody kind of

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<v Speaker 4>by surprise that I would have been shocked if he

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<v Speaker 4>did asked out at that point, because it just didn't

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<v Speaker 4>give him the time. Now, if they had said and

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<v Speaker 4>been negotiating and been talking about this for weeks, then

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<v Speaker 4>maybe and then and then they completed it, then maybe yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>But I wasn't shocked. I think he's weighing his option.

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<v Speaker 4>He's got the wheels turning, and I'm sure he's gonna

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<v Speaker 4>land someplace where they can win a title where they

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<v Speaker 4>just need one player away something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think Rob did it without Lebron's knowledge because

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<v Speaker 2>he wanted Lebron to ask out? Do you think he

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<v Speaker 2>was Do you think Polka had in his mind as

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<v Speaker 2>I've been riding for two years, he was gonna do

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<v Speaker 2>it an Ad and Lebron in one flop, and he

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<v Speaker 2>thought this was the best way to do it, and

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<v Speaker 2>Lebron didn't bite.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I tell you something, Bill, Bill, I thought about

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<v Speaker 1>that this morning. That actually popped in on my mind

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<v Speaker 1>this morning. Given what he's done. I mean, they just

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<v Speaker 1>changed the entire complexion of the team. There's a reason

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<v Speaker 1>Lebron didn't know. There's a boom ad gone. Okay, here's Luca.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the future. We're going forward now, good bad, that's it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but we didn't tell Lebron. And after the season, Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>can opt out. Somebody will pay him. If he demanded

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<v Speaker 1>a trade. The Lakers wouldn't get much back for him

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<v Speaker 1>of the open market, because, after all, he makes too

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<v Speaker 1>much money. And who would give somebody a lot up

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<v Speaker 1>or a forty year old guy. He's a piece that

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<v Speaker 1>can help you in a title now, that's what he is.

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<v Speaker 1>Very good, very good, but not the guy to build around.

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<v Speaker 1>And I started thinking this morning maybe this was orchestrated.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I think it possibly could have been. It was

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<v Speaker 2>so weird. At the Tuesday press conference, it's the first

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<v Speaker 2>press conference in seven years. There for everybody who's been

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<v Speaker 2>head the press conference that Lebron wasn't either lurking in

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<v Speaker 2>the background, lurking in the shadows, or his name was

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned ten times, It wasn't mentioned as brilliant. It was

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned once and only when a question was asked about it.

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<v Speaker 2>He wasn't brought with the press conference. This is not

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<v Speaker 2>his team anymore, and he's got to realize that. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure obviously he does, and I think that impacts to

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<v Speaker 2>move forward.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I I think that he did not know.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm leaning that way, And I don't know if it

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<v Speaker 4>was trying to do a package deal or not, but

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<v Speaker 4>you couldn't have involved him because I think they would

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<v Speaker 4>have run the risk of him trying to blow it up.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>You know a boy. Yeah, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 4>ads his boy. They're the same agent and the whole deal.

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<v Speaker 4>If they would have, you know, had this conversation with

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<v Speaker 4>Lebron a week before it happens, I think that it

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<v Speaker 4>could have got ugly.

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<v Speaker 2>Clutch Sports has never been more powerless with the Lakers

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<v Speaker 2>than it is right now, and I have to think

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's a good thing. I trust Jeanie knows

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<v Speaker 2>the organization she knows, she knows what's best for the Lakers.

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<v Speaker 2>I trust her, and I trust play will do her bidding.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I trust him more than I trust Flut Like,

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<v Speaker 2>the Lakers are better hands. Now they're in Laker hands,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's huge.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I had this conversation with Rodney the other

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<v Speaker 1>day and it was really weird.

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<v Speaker 3>Bill.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you felt this way. I always

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<v Speaker 1>thought Lebron played for the Lakers, but he didn't seem

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<v Speaker 1>like he was really a Laker.

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<v Speaker 2>Now agree, all right?

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<v Speaker 1>After this trade, Now Lebron is a Laker. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>the Lakers and Lebron, it's it's Lebron is on the Lakers.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it makes it make total sense. He's not separate,

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<v Speaker 2>He's just He's just a piece that had to learn

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<v Speaker 2>learn how to play with Luca? Did you learn how

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<v Speaker 2>to play with Mark?

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<v Speaker 3>Luca? Laker? Is Luca a Laker?

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<v Speaker 2>Lucas so unhappy? Lucas Stop Luca. Luca. Luca's not happy

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<v Speaker 2>to be here. You gotta know that, right. You can

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<v Speaker 4>Definitely not happy to be here. He's definitely not happy

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<v Speaker 4>to be there. That's what I'm saying. It may not,

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<v Speaker 4>it may not be.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's really he's been humiliated publicly, naturally humiliated, and

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<v Speaker 2>lot of bad baggage. Was well, that's good because you

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<v Speaker 2>to prove somebody wrong. And he's got a hell a

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<v Speaker 4>All right, that's a good thing, Bill. Or it could

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<v Speaker 4>It's not gonna be. It's not gonna be in the middle.

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<v Speaker 4>and it doesn't end well. I don't think it's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>I can't take that. I suffered through the Lakers so

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<v Speaker 2>much the last few years. I can't take that. Don't

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not even it's not gonna be a middle of

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<v Speaker 4>It's kind of pretty good. It's average, or it's better

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<v Speaker 4>or it's going to be one of those. Man, I

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm gonna choose to think it's gonna be great

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm so sick of Watsover Lakers and worried about

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<v Speaker 2>him and ripping them and writing is your trade a

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<v Speaker 2>D and right is your trade? Lebron and I like

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<v Speaker 2>to write one time and they ought to keep somebody

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't think I've written that in a while.

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<v Speaker 2>So I hope hopefully this works out. Because Laker fans

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<v Speaker 2>are so fit up, there's so they so want a

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<v Speaker 2>chance in the championship again. I think they have one now,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's not gonna be this year. Warning them it's

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna be the Shore, They're not gonna beat up

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<v Speaker 2>it this year, but they got a chance in the future.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's allybody can ask for.

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<v Speaker 3>Agreed. All right, Bill, thanks for jumping on. We appreciate

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, you got great. Thanks for having me see you.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, plan ahead for the big game this Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>and pre order a platter of for Castia sandwiches piled

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<v Speaker 1>You can own all of that today and eat at

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<v Speaker 1>vesty dot com. Okay, uh, when we come back helping

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<v Speaker 1>the enemy, let's talk about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, come on, Freddy sing this with me?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, righty beat fred Rogan throw back thirty y'all count

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<v Speaker 4>it down, Count it down to Super Bowl Sunday. It's

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<v Speaker 4>almost here. Yeah, your goal got Freddy? Who you got?

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<v Speaker 4>You're going? I am going. I am going down there.

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<v Speaker 4>And then you know, it was kind of up in

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<v Speaker 3>And then.

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<v Speaker 4>The right folks called with the right the right dollar

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<v Speaker 4>them out, Freddie, and I am on a plane, you

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm going down.

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<v Speaker 4>There to hang out a few days and then uh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>So New Orleans is a great town.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, I've been watching you know, people down there,

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<v Speaker 4>come to town in the Super Bowl week. But man,

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<v Speaker 4>it's New Orleans is uh it's a great town. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>just hoping that uh no, craziness goes off there in

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<v Speaker 4>uh in New Orleans like it did during a college

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<v Speaker 4>football playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>There are exactly three cities in America, three cities that

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<v Speaker 1>if you survive them, you're lucky. There are three cities

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<v Speaker 1>longer than a day, two days, and you survive, you're lucky.

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<v Speaker 1>You come out alive, You've done a good job. You've

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<v Speaker 3>Yes it is.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can find trouble wherever you want.

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<v Speaker 3>At every turn, Absolutely you can.

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<v Speaker 1>The food is incredible, there's no shortage of drinks. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you've got to New Orleans and we talked to

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<v Speaker 1>you Monday and you're okay, congratulations, you made.

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<v Speaker 3>It, I'm going.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going and coming back and going straight to the

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<v Speaker 4>doctor Fred our guy, because the food I'm about to eat.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't drink, but food I'm about to eat.

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<v Speaker 4>Is going to make my blood pressure just boil over, Fred,

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<v Speaker 4>because it's everything's fried, dried and laid to the side.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm gonna kill it though, I'm gonna kill that

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<v Speaker 4>in New Orleans food.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, tell our guy hello. I will when you

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<v Speaker 1>see him on Monday. Good New Orleans is one of

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<v Speaker 3>What's the other city here? There's a total of three.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'll give you another city, Nashville. If you go

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<v Speaker 1>a terrific job. Nashville is New Orleans. Not with that food,

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<v Speaker 1>but Nashville nine in the morning, bars are open, live

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<v Speaker 1>nine am. I'm sure some places don't even close. You

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<v Speaker 1>you've done it. And lastly on the list, in no

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<v Speaker 1>of there, okay, then you again have accomplished something incredibly

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<v Speaker 1>wonderful because those are three cities that are designed for

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<v Speaker 1>you to lose your mind. Those are three cities designed

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<v Speaker 1>are the three cities in this country. Now I might

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<v Speaker 1>be missing so and people that have traveled perhaps no more.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm sure Pullman, Washington is very much like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh Pullman is crazy this time of year, friend, yeah, Pullman.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what else is crazy this time of the year,

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<v Speaker 4>This this weekend that coincides with football.

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<v Speaker 3>What in the Super Bowl is Phoenix, Arizona. Phoenix Arizona.

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<v Speaker 3>Waste is the Waste Management Open. If you have not

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<v Speaker 3>been to the Waste Management Open on the PGA tour,

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<v Speaker 3>you're missing out on one of the craziest best events

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<v Speaker 5>Now, didn't they exact think we talked about this last

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<v Speaker 5>of rules because they got so rowdy last year. People

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<v Speaker 5>like a free form and you can heckle the players

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<v Speaker 5>and all that. There's like a designated alcohol area or something.

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<v Speaker 5>Now you can't just walk around the course drinking and

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<v Speaker 5>start throwing beers at people because it's got way to

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<v Speaker 1>Last year, people got drunk and were rolling down hills. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I think somebody ended up in the sandtrap. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the best. And see, that's the way I think

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<v Speaker 6>What I was gonna say, fresh shouldn't every tournament be

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>They really should.

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<v Speaker 6>Change the rules for everything else and make them like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And I actually brought that up to some people

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<v Speaker 1>at one point and they said, you're insane. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm insane. Granted, you probably don't want anybody yelling

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<v Speaker 1>and during your back swing or when you're putting.

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<v Speaker 3>Why not? Why not? Why not? Why not? Every other

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<v Speaker 3>sports has crowd noying, you got to deal with it.

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<v Speaker 3>Why not have it in golf?

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<v Speaker 4>I think that should and at the very least maybe

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<v Speaker 4>like every other tournament is like that where you can

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<v Speaker 4>you can yell and scream. But but I think it's

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<v Speaker 4>certain tournament they have more like the Phoenix Open. Have

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<v Speaker 4>more tournaments like that that. I'm certainly all the you know,

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<v Speaker 4>most of the players would want to show up. You

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<v Speaker 4>wouldn't have You wouldn't have a problem getting those guys

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<v Speaker 4>to show up to those tournaments. But yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 4>I think the golf's to revisit that whether you crowd

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<v Speaker 5>How could an NBA player in Game seven of the

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<v Speaker 5>NBA Finals stand at the free throw line with people

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<v Speaker 5>screaming and throwing thundersticks and all sorts of stuff, God forbid,

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<v Speaker 5>at the at the thirteenth hold, somebody yells something while

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<v Speaker 6>This just doesn't make sense to me.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I understand, I understand. I think the traditionalists would

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<v Speaker 1>have a problem with it. But I love you, you

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<v Speaker 1>know me. I love anything that's new and different. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it should be a free for all. I think

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<v Speaker 1>tennis should be the same way. I think people should

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely be able to lose their mind. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>should turn into the World Baseball Classic. Oh, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think wimbled I think the US should be the World

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<v Speaker 1>Baseball Classic. People bringing drums and chanting.

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<v Speaker 3>Singing and yelling and screaming the whole nine innings. It's

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<v Speaker 1>That's what we need more of. That would see. That

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<v Speaker 1>would address a number of issues with golf, and it

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<v Speaker 1>are trying to figure out ways to attract a bigger

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<v Speaker 1>what they have, and the feeling is are just too

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<v Speaker 1>many events period, too many golf tournaments where the top

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<v Speaker 1>players don't play. Same thing with the NBA, same thing

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<v Speaker 1>in everything. When you have a lot of something, it

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<v Speaker 1>are only so many games. But when you're playing one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and sixty two games in baseball, unless you're the

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<v Speaker 1>that's probably too many games. In the NBA, it's way

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<v Speaker 1>We know that because of television and media rites deals.

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<v Speaker 1>tournaments and they're saying live in the PGA, it's convoluting everything.

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<v Speaker 3>Tennis.

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<v Speaker 1>They just think there are too many tournaments, too many,

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<v Speaker 1>so if you have fewer, they mean more. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think if you had the same number and treated everything

425
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<v Speaker 1>like the waste Management Open, it'd be great.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, listen, you didn't get any argument from me. I

427
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<v Speaker 3>think it's great.

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<v Speaker 4>I love that Phoenix opened, and to a certain extent,

429
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<v Speaker 4>I think the players do.

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<v Speaker 3>You're right here there are, Fred.

431
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<v Speaker 4>There's going to be those traditionalists, those older cats that no,

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<v Speaker 4>please be quiet. What are they gonna do with all

433
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<v Speaker 4>the retired men and women that walk around the golf

434
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<v Speaker 4>course with the quiet signs?

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<v Speaker 3>What are gonna do with them? Fred?

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<v Speaker 1>They'd have a heart attack. You know what, I think

437
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<v Speaker 1>everybody should be given an air worn. When somebody is

438
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<v Speaker 1>running feet out right to the left to win the tournament,

439
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<v Speaker 1>hit the air horn.

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<v Speaker 6>It'd be pretty funny, but it'd be pretty messed up too.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if they everybody.

442
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<v Speaker 4>You know, every player's got their heckling crowd that follows

443
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<v Speaker 4>them around with their own little shirts and stuff like that,

444
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<v Speaker 4>like you said, air horns and all that, and you

445
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<v Speaker 4>know it's it's it's a close match, and you tell

446
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<v Speaker 4>your your your army or your crew member.

447
00:22:23.359 --> 00:22:25.240
<v Speaker 3>Palmer had the Arnie's army, and then you just follow

448
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<v Speaker 3>him around.

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<v Speaker 4>You tell that Crey, hey, uh, Roy, Michaelroy's he's uh,

450
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<v Speaker 4>he's only one stroke behind me. Man, he's on sixteen

451
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<v Speaker 4>right now, Go heckle him. Go, And you send a

452
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<v Speaker 4>crew over there just to heckle Rory till he can

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<v Speaker 4>miss a shot.

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<v Speaker 3>A man.

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<v Speaker 5>I love it that Rory makes it and he turns

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<v Speaker 5>around and gives him like the you know, the crotch

457
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<v Speaker 5>chop or something like.

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<v Speaker 6>You tell me that wouldn't be entertaining.

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<v Speaker 1>That'd be great, It would be the best. Can I

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<v Speaker 1>just tell you something? So if you've been to a

461
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<v Speaker 1>golf tournament, I'll make this real quick, you know, and

462
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<v Speaker 1>you have to stay along the ropes and you can't

463
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<v Speaker 1>go inside the ropes, right. So recently I went to

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<v Speaker 1>a golf tournament and it was the American Express Tournament

465
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<v Speaker 1>out in Lakingto. So I'm walking around and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really know where I'm at because this tournament is on

467
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<v Speaker 1>PGA West and there are homes surrounding it everywhere, So

468
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<v Speaker 1>if you're in one of the houses, you just start

469
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<v Speaker 1>walking around.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't even have to pay.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm walking around. All of a sudden, I'm standing

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<v Speaker 1>in a place and I'm looking around and there's nobody

473
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<v Speaker 1>near me. I am right next to the green. I'm

474
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<v Speaker 1>like a caddy.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh god.

476
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<v Speaker 1>So people are now looking at me like what are

477
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<v Speaker 1>you doing there? And of course I take the position

478
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<v Speaker 1>I should be here, so I just kind of look

479
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<v Speaker 1>them off. Do you know I actually walked in a

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<v Speaker 1>pairing of golfers for like two holes like.

481
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<v Speaker 3>I was in.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the same you wandering into a locker room, Freddie. Yeah,

483
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<v Speaker 4>you can't help yourself. But once I started, I here's

484
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<v Speaker 4>the problem. Once I started, I didn't know how to

485
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<v Speaker 4>get out. You know, when you're in, if you run out,

486
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<v Speaker 4>you look guilty. So if you stay in, it.

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<v Speaker 3>Looks like walking with the golfers in the in the

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<v Speaker 3>in the pairing. Yeah, just walking with a group of

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<v Speaker 3>two or three or four guys. It was tight. You

490
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<v Speaker 3>were just walking with them.

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<v Speaker 4>Did you have a glove in your back pocket just

492
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<v Speaker 4>to act like you could play the part a little bit?

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<v Speaker 3>No, but I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>But I didn't make eye contact with anybody and just

495
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<v Speaker 1>kind of kept my head down because a minute somebody

496
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<v Speaker 1>made eye contact with me, they go, what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 4>So I just acted like I belong there. It was

498
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<v Speaker 4>this guy walking with us. He didn't have a he

499
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<v Speaker 4>didn't have a golf bag. Where's his clubs?

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<v Speaker 1>They must have thought I was someone's agent or something.

501
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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what they talked about. I just kept moving,

502
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<v Speaker 1>and then when I could conveniently back out, I did.

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<v Speaker 4>Only you would find yourself behind the ropes walking down

504
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<v Speaker 4>the street and uh, walking down the f away with

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<v Speaker 4>two actual players.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I became confused and that I didn't want

507
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<v Speaker 1>to look guilty. All right, when we come back, Do

508
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<v Speaker 1>you help the enemy? Let's do it now? Yeah? Is

509
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<v Speaker 1>you Darvash the enemy? We'll try to figure that out.

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<v Speaker 1>All you want to know why you can't always believe

511
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<v Speaker 1>what you hear? You know, you're always trying to be manipulated.

512
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<v Speaker 1>There's an art form to manipulating people, getting them to

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<v Speaker 1>believe what you want them to believe. And there are

514
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<v Speaker 1>some people that are really really good at it. They

515
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<v Speaker 1>are pros at putting out a message and trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get you to buy it. Now, let's go back to

517
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<v Speaker 1>the Roki Sazaki situation. As the countdown was occurring and

518
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<v Speaker 1>he was going to make a decision about what Klubby

519
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<v Speaker 1>was going to sign with. What was one of the

520
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<v Speaker 1>major arguments, Well, one of them was he's going to

521
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<v Speaker 1>pick the Podres. Now, if we really thought about it,

522
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<v Speaker 1>that wasn't going to happen. For all the reasons why

523
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<v Speaker 1>it didn't happen, Given everything he said and what he wanted,

524
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<v Speaker 1>there was one place to go, and it was the Dodgers.

525
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<v Speaker 1>But oh, it could be the Padres. You know what

526
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<v Speaker 1>could happen. And oftentimes when that occurs, it's an agent

527
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<v Speaker 1>or somebody or a strategist trying to plant information to

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<v Speaker 1>try to sway people and at times even sway those

529
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<v Speaker 1>who are making the decisions. So one of the big

530
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<v Speaker 1>reasons was he wanted to work with you Darvish. He

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<v Speaker 1>admired him, He was his mentor, and you Darvish was

532
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<v Speaker 1>the guy that would make the difference. You Darvish was

533
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<v Speaker 1>the individual that Sazaki would be basically bonded with, and

534
00:26:46.279 --> 00:26:48.440
<v Speaker 1>Darvish would help him, and that's why he would pick

535
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<v Speaker 1>the Padres, which of course was not true, because then

536
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<v Speaker 1>he would have signed a contract with you, Darvish and

537
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<v Speaker 1>not the Padres. Anyway, to show you what kind of

538
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<v Speaker 1>person Darvish is, to show you why initially those reports

539
00:27:03.680 --> 00:27:07.440
<v Speaker 1>were so fake. Darvis has now come out and said, look,

540
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<v Speaker 1>I know that he signed with the Dodgers. I understand that,

541
00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:15.000
<v Speaker 1>but there are things bigger than who he signed with.

542
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<v Speaker 1>And that being the case, I am saying now that

543
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<v Speaker 1>I am still willing to help him even though he

544
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<v Speaker 1>plays for the Dodgers. I will still be there for him.

545
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<v Speaker 1>I will mentor him, I will offer him advice, I

546
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<v Speaker 1>will take his calls. It would be as if he

547
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<v Speaker 1>was on the team with me. But because he's not

548
00:27:36.400 --> 00:27:39.240
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean that I'm throwing him kicking him to the curb.

549
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<v Speaker 1>I'm there for him. That is classy, that is big time.

550
00:27:46.720 --> 00:27:48.599
<v Speaker 1>He didn't need to go play for the Padres to

551
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<v Speaker 1>be near you, Darvish, because you Darvish is a quality guy,

552
00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:55.440
<v Speaker 1>and said, I'll still help him. You know, if I'm

553
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<v Speaker 1>his mentor, then I will be there for him. Now,

554
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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure the two of them are not going to

555
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<v Speaker 1>have a conversation before they play the Dodgers, no matter

556
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<v Speaker 1>when they speak. I'm sure it's not going to be okay, rookie,

557
00:28:08.359 --> 00:28:12.279
<v Speaker 1>you're pitching tomorrow night against us, let me give you

558
00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:16.240
<v Speaker 1>some tips. That's not going to happen. But Darvish is older,

559
00:28:16.279 --> 00:28:20.480
<v Speaker 1>he's been around, and he takes his relationship with Sazaki

560
00:28:20.559 --> 00:28:23.039
<v Speaker 1>very seriously. Darvish thought the Padres, by the way, did

561
00:28:23.079 --> 00:28:25.680
<v Speaker 1>a great job in their presentation to try to get

562
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<v Speaker 1>him to go to San Diego. And I'm sure they did.

563
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<v Speaker 1>We know the Blue Jays did a magnificent job in

564
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<v Speaker 1>their presentation. It didn't matter. He was always coming to

565
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<v Speaker 1>the Dodgers for all the reasons he listed. I want

566
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<v Speaker 1>to be the best I can be. I want to

567
00:28:39.039 --> 00:28:41.359
<v Speaker 1>be in a place where they'll make me better. I

568
00:28:41.400 --> 00:28:42.680
<v Speaker 1>want to be in a place where I'll have a

569
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<v Speaker 1>chance to win all the time. Well, there was no

570
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<v Speaker 1>other place. I mean, certainly the Padres don't have the

571
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<v Speaker 1>analytics and the infrastructure of the Dodgers, and honestly, we

572
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<v Speaker 1>don't know what the Blue Jays have, but we can

573
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<v Speaker 1>only assume it's not the Dodgers. But really, as Sazaki

574
00:29:01.200 --> 00:29:03.319
<v Speaker 1>goes through his rookie year, and there's so much more

575
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<v Speaker 1>to it than a twenty three year old kid going

576
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<v Speaker 1>out to the mound every sixth day, learning to travel,

577
00:29:09.920 --> 00:29:13.039
<v Speaker 1>understanding what it's like to be a major leaguer, taking

578
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<v Speaker 1>care of yourself, all of those things you Darvish will

579
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<v Speaker 1>be there for him. It's really a very very classy gesture.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't mean we're still not going to beat the tar

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<v Speaker 1>out of the Padres, but still it really was a

582
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<v Speaker 1>very classy gesture. All right, Ronnie, thank you for a

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<v Speaker 1>great day. Really appreciate it. Kevin, good work as well. Rodney.

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<v Speaker 1>Safe flight to New Orleans and we'll all talk tomorrow.