Speaker 1: Hi, this is Robert Salas. I'm a former Air Force
Speaker 1: captain and I was a missile launch officer in nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty seven and Great Falls, Montana Stacy Melstrom And when
Speaker 1: a UFO came over my launch control facility affected my
Speaker 1: missiles shut him down. And I can prove that I
Speaker 1: have a book called Faded Giant. And you are listening
Speaker 1: to the Doctor Sky Show.
Speaker 2: Welcome once again, ladies and gentlemen, to the Doctor Sky Show,
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Speaker 2: newcomer to The Doctor Sky Show, our show was always
Speaker 2: jam packed with the best guests from the realms of astronomy, aviation,
Speaker 2: in weather, and from time to time some very special
Speaker 2: celebrity guests. And today, ladies and gentleman, is a true
Speaker 2: privilege and honor to speak to a man who proudly
Speaker 2: served his country and equally important, the co author of
Speaker 2: a fascinating book entitled Faded Giant. The nineteen sixty seven
Speaker 2: missile UFO Incidence something that each and every person out
Speaker 2: there with an open mind certainly needs to hear. And
Speaker 2: before we speak with our guests, mister Robert Salas, a
Speaker 2: brief introduction is in order. Robert Sallas, a graduate of
Speaker 2: the United States Air Force Academy, served on active duty
Speaker 2: for seven years. He holds a master's degree in aerospace
Speaker 2: engineering from the Air Force Institute of Technology and a
Speaker 2: master's degree in education from the University of Washington. Sallas
Speaker 2: worked briefly as an engineer from Martin Marrietta Aerospace and
Speaker 2: Rockwell International, and then went on to serve twenty two
Speaker 2: years in the Federal Aviation Administration until his retirement in
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety five. He is currently teaching School of Mathematics,
Speaker 2: and he has spoken publicly about the events described in
Speaker 2: Faded Giant since nineteen ninety five. He and his co author,
Speaker 2: James Klatz have written this phenomenal book, which has gone
Speaker 2: across the world and even on to the stage. Ladies
Speaker 2: and gentlemen. Just weeks ago on the international television stage
Speaker 2: from CNN, Fox News, and many other journalistic experiences. And
Speaker 2: with that, I'd like to welcome to the program former
Speaker 2: United States Air Force Captain Robert Sallas. Good afternoon, and
Speaker 2: we'll all at the Doctor Scott Show.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Doctor Scuy. I really appreciate that introduction. It's
Speaker 1: great to be on with you today.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much, sir. You know, this subject
Speaker 2: has always been fascinating to our listeners, and I myself
Speaker 2: had the privilege and honor of speaking with the doctor
Speaker 2: Jayalen Heinik when I interviewed him when I was in
Speaker 2: college a long time ago there at Northwestern University when
Speaker 2: he appeared on the radio. But just briefly, if you
Speaker 2: would be kind enough, sir, just describe to us what
Speaker 2: is a faded giant. I understand this is a military term.
Speaker 1: Yeah, technically, I think faded giant is any incident involving
Speaker 1: a nuclear facility that could be a power generating plant
Speaker 1: or some other nuclear facility. We kind of us the
Speaker 1: generic term for some sort of nuclear incident for our
Speaker 1: book because it sounded well good to us.
Speaker 2: Well, it sounds very good to all the listeners of
Speaker 2: the Doctor Sky Show. I can assure you sir, and
Speaker 2: I'm so fascinated about what you're about to tell us
Speaker 2: in this approximately thirty minute interview today. According to your story,
Speaker 2: which is well documented here in Faded Giant, you describe
Speaker 2: a series of missile site excuse me, of UFO sightings
Speaker 2: over missile silos, particularly to those up in the northwestern
Speaker 2: part of the United States. But more particularly, Sir, described
Speaker 2: the first experiences that were reported to you about unidentified
Speaker 2: flying objects hovering near or over these sensitive missile silos.
Speaker 1: You know, I can tell you in my own experience
Speaker 1: that I was on duty and underground capsule we call
Speaker 1: it oscar flight. It's about one hundred miles east of
Speaker 1: Great Falls, Montana, near a small town called Roy, Montana.
Speaker 1: And there are two of us sit down there in
Speaker 1: the capsule that are monitoring the missiles, making sure they're
Speaker 1: on already or ghost status. And my commander was taking
Speaker 1: a rest break and I get a call from the
Speaker 1: top side guard that they were observing strange lights in
Speaker 1: the sky making strange maneuvers, moving very rapidly, making odd
Speaker 1: turns and anyway, they announced that these were not aircraft.
Speaker 1: And this was you know, I took this report seriously,
Speaker 1: although I couldn't quite grasp what they were trying to
Speaker 1: tell me, but so I just kind of the report
Speaker 1: and went back to my good book down there. And
Speaker 1: five minutes later I get another call. This time they
Speaker 1: are yelling into the phone, clearly frightened. The guys says
Speaker 1: that they're looking out at the front gate and they
Speaker 1: see this glowing red object. It's about thirty feet diameter,
Speaker 1: pulsating and it's oval shaped. It's hovering just above the
Speaker 1: front gate, and they wanted me to tell them what
Speaker 1: to do next. I think I told him to make
Speaker 1: sure that it comes in the perimeter fence. They had
Speaker 1: all their weapons drawn up there, and it was a
Speaker 1: tense situation. Well hung up the phone. I went to
Speaker 1: tell my commander about these phone calls, and as I
Speaker 1: was telling him about him, the missiles started going into
Speaker 1: what we call a no go condition. In other words,
Speaker 1: they went from an alert status to a disabled status.
Speaker 2: This is an amazing story. Letters, is a littlement about
Speaker 2: what you're about to hear in greater detail. But before
Speaker 2: we go into the meat of the actual sightings and
Speaker 2: what experiences you've had with these sightings and your crew,
Speaker 2: describe to us, Sir, the entire Minuteman missile system. I
Speaker 2: find this to be very fascinating, and I must say
Speaker 2: this in all honesty. I watched you on many of
Speaker 2: the major networks, and I say this again, this is
Speaker 2: my opinion. I didn't see them go into any of
Speaker 2: the detail that we're about to go into today, because
Speaker 2: I think it's very important for the listeners of the
Speaker 2: Doctor Sky Show, Sir, to understand that you served your country,
Speaker 2: and I want to salute you first for your service
Speaker 2: to our country. And equally important, I think people out
Speaker 2: there may have a misconception what is the Minuteman missile
Speaker 2: system and describe to us in some detail what your
Speaker 2: role was.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, the minute Man one is a three stage
Speaker 1: solid propulsion missile course with warhead approximately you know, I'll
Speaker 1: say in general the warhead was about three hundred kilotons.
Speaker 1: I know they changed the warhead from time to time,
Speaker 1: but just to put out in perspective, the warheaded Hiroshima
Speaker 1: Nagasaki was fifteen to twenty kilotons. But we had I
Speaker 1: think at the time in nineteen sixty seven, we have
Speaker 1: had about one hundred and fifty actual missiles MINIMN one
Speaker 1: and mod Miniman mod missile was the follow under that
Speaker 1: in Montana Long and of course there were there were
Speaker 1: missile bases in other of the Northern Tier states. Each
Speaker 1: missile was independent of each other. In other words, we
Speaker 1: could fire them in salvo. But in general the missiles
Speaker 1: were you know, self contained. They had their they had
Speaker 1: backup power, their own backup power systems. UH, triplely redundant power.
Speaker 1: We had triplely redundant shielded cables. UH that UH sent
Speaker 1: the signals to the missiles. And again these signals had
Speaker 1: to go individually. Yeah. One one thing I'd like to
Speaker 1: point out in particular is we we did receive a
Speaker 1: document from the Air Force under the Premium Information Act.
Speaker 1: And in that document, UH, this is a historical document,
Speaker 1: it's UH unit history document. But in that document it
Speaker 1: talks about UH in particularly the echo flight, the fact
Speaker 1: that the UH we got two signals, UH were two
Speaker 1: messages during the shutdowns. One was gotten some control system
Speaker 1: failure and the other one was the logic coupler failure.
Speaker 1: And HY they actually stated verbatim in there that A
Speaker 1: that in U this was a highly unexplicable event because
Speaker 1: each of the logic couplers would have had to failed
Speaker 1: from the same cause within seconds of each other. So
Speaker 1: if you can determine the probability of that, you can
Speaker 1: figure out how unlikely this was. Well, let me describe
Speaker 1: in a little more details of the audience here, and
Speaker 1: I'm just taking this from your book. The Mini Man
Speaker 1: one missile was a three stage solid propeller ICBM, about
Speaker 1: fifty eight feet tall, about six feet wide in the base.
Speaker 1: But what I find most fascinating is this particular system
Speaker 1: as you describe here, the control systems are up and
Speaker 1: running twenty four hours a day. This means what that
Speaker 1: the gyroscopes were always spinning and the electronics is always
Speaker 1: powered up. So what happened during these particular incidents is
Speaker 1: totally amazing that the alleged object that was seen not
Speaker 1: only by many of the people, of course, not by yourself,
Speaker 1: because we want to make that caveat you are underground
Speaker 1: during the whole libe. But the point I'm trying to
Speaker 1: make is something came over this particular missile silo or
Speaker 1: this particular complex, and yet to this day it's never
Speaker 1: been explained what caused these missiles to go offline. Is
Speaker 1: that the term right offline, but one emphasize that the
Speaker 1: guards upstairs had absolutely no control over these missiles. There's
Speaker 1: no way they could have propagated some kind of a
Speaker 1: hoax and had these missiles set down at the same
Speaker 1: time they announced that there was the UFO overhead. So
Speaker 1: I just want to emphasize that well.
Speaker 2: Also, just to remind the listeners, you're listening to an
Speaker 2: exclusive interview here a special book and a special author. Today,
Speaker 2: we're speaking today with former United States Air Force Captain
Speaker 2: Robert Salas. He and his co author James Klotz have
Speaker 2: written this phenomenal book called Faded Giant. It refers to
Speaker 2: the nineteen sixty seven missile UFO incidents. He's joining us
Speaker 2: from his home in California today on The Doctor Sky Show.
Speaker 2: And Sir, I really appreciate your time because to me,
Speaker 2: this has always been as this one who studied this
Speaker 2: UFO phenomenon for many years looking at the Even if
Speaker 2: there's two percent of the sidings that are unexplained, doesn't
Speaker 2: this one continue come up in its class as being
Speaker 2: still yet unexplained.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, we never got an explanation. I was there for
Speaker 1: another two years doing the same job. No one ever
Speaker 1: explained to me why this was went down under these
Speaker 1: circumstances from other witnesses, I know that as late as
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy two, the Air Force was still investigating the
Speaker 1: Echo flag shutdown, the OSCAR shutdown, and could not come
Speaker 1: up with a fix. So yeah, we're waiting for an
Speaker 1: explanation still from the Air Force.
Speaker 2: Well, I gather you're not very popular. And then the
Speaker 2: military circles or do they really care at this point
Speaker 2: in time, because I would imagine that since they can't
Speaker 2: explain it or will not explain it, just personally on
Speaker 2: a one to one level. Have you experienced some criticism
Speaker 2: of this as about going public about something, and I
Speaker 2: salute you for going public of course.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, I have not heard word one from the military,
Speaker 1: either my classmates or or the official you know military.
Speaker 1: Either way, I think they don't want to talk about
Speaker 1: this because we have I think outstanding back up support
Speaker 1: evidence supporting this case, and I don't think they want
Speaker 1: to challenge me on any of it. I mean, we've
Speaker 1: got the two flight crews I mean missile cruise rather
Speaker 1: and and we've got other supporting witnesses. Two of the
Speaker 1: witnesses that spoke in Washington, D C. Robert Jamieson, who
Speaker 1: was that brought my missiles back up on alert, also
Speaker 1: was informed this was the UFO event. We've got Dwayne Anderson,
Speaker 1: who was in the cryptographic center, who saw the message
Speaker 1: that went out informing SAC headquarters this was a UFO event.
Speaker 1: So I think we've got a solid case.
Speaker 2: And I think you certainly, sir, And it's great to
Speaker 2: have guests like yourself that are trying to stimulate the
Speaker 2: minds of the American people and the folks of the world,
Speaker 2: because according to research that I've done, this particular phenomenon
Speaker 2: is not just endemic to the United States. It's also
Speaker 2: allegedly happened to the then Soviet Union. And I think
Speaker 2: the circumstances there might have been much more dangerous if
Speaker 2: all of a sudden the missiles were launched out of
Speaker 2: the ground by a mysterious source. So maybe they theoretically
Speaker 2: could have lost control, But that never did happen in
Speaker 2: the United States.
Speaker 1: Right. One of our witnesses, Bruce Finistermacher, talked about a
Speaker 1: very similar incident where UFOs came over his site and
Speaker 1: started lighting up the board. In his words, so clearly,
Speaker 1: these objects, whatever they are, and whoever they are are
Speaker 1: very cognizant of how our systems work in great detail.
Speaker 2: Well, this is interesting because your book describes on page
Speaker 2: twenty two, and I want to encourage people to get
Speaker 2: a copy of the book. And again if you're just
Speaker 2: joining us folks on the Doctor Sky Show. A very
Speaker 2: special guest as always, but today I feel very impressed
Speaker 2: at this gentleman. Former United States there Force Captain Robert
Speaker 2: Sollas and his co author James Klaut's writing the book
Speaker 2: called Fated Giant in nineteen sixty seven missile UFO incidents.
Speaker 2: He's with us exclusively here on The Doctor Sky Show
Speaker 2: today to talk about a lot of different subjects. But
Speaker 2: I understand that electromagnetic pulse is something that could knock
Speaker 2: out different types of electronics. Tell our listeners a little
Speaker 2: bit about what AMPER is in case they're not familiar
Speaker 2: with this.
Speaker 1: Well, EMP, or electromagnetic pulse can be generated from various sources.
Speaker 1: That's pretty much a generic to What I can tell
Speaker 1: you is that one of the Boeing engineers who investigated
Speaker 1: the Echo incident did a bench test and injected a
Speaker 1: EMP signal. I can't quote the numbers off hand. They
Speaker 1: may be in the book, but he was able to
Speaker 1: disable the guns and control package of the logic coupler
Speaker 1: in this case at this particular signal, but he could
Speaker 1: not certainly not explain how that signal was injected into
Speaker 1: the system. As I mentioned, the cables that are buried
Speaker 1: about sixty feet underground, they're triply shielded, and each missile
Speaker 1: would have had to have received this signal within seconds
Speaker 1: of each other.
Speaker 2: Amazing, totally amazing, and to the best minds out there,
Speaker 2: I mean, we could all speculate that our government with
Speaker 2: black projects, may have some sort of devices that of
Speaker 2: course can do these things, or maybe other governments of
Speaker 2: the world. But I tended out that Robert, you know
Speaker 2: you spent your time in the military. I find this
Speaker 2: to be a totally amazing story that it seems very
Speaker 2: much otherworldly, that when we see the descriptions or read
Speaker 2: about the descriptions that the people on the ground saw
Speaker 2: on base, it doesn't look like any conventional aircraft. Correct.
Speaker 1: No, no, this is not a conventional aircraft, unless you know,
Speaker 1: with aircraft that can ver silently overhead and inject some
Speaker 1: sort of signal, specific signal sixty feet underground and penetrate
Speaker 1: the cables and no, this was not a.
Speaker 2: Conventional aircraft, not at all. And thus it gives us
Speaker 2: this open mind here on the Doctor Sky Show that
Speaker 2: this particular series of events, as I as I described before,
Speaker 2: as a man of science myself and of course a
Speaker 2: man who spent a lot of time of course getting
Speaker 2: your advanced degrees, you understand very clearly by looking in
Speaker 2: the sky that there are so many identifiable objects. And
Speaker 2: that's what we try to do here on the Doctor
Speaker 2: Sky program and in our public programs that we do
Speaker 2: from the astronomy side. I'd give this challenge, this challenge
Speaker 2: to people out there. I say, well, I'm open minded
Speaker 2: about the UFO subject, but I say even more so
Speaker 2: because I learned about the nighttime sky and try to
Speaker 2: help people learn about what those objects are in the sky.
Speaker 2: And once you know the roadmap of the sky, you
Speaker 2: can discount these things. Maybe one that doesn't know about
Speaker 2: venus or one doesn't know about other objects. But even
Speaker 2: if it's the two percent like we're talking about today,
Speaker 2: this to me seems like one of the most amazing
Speaker 2: sightings in all of history. And you were there with
Speaker 2: your people to witness this firsthand. But I'd like to
Speaker 2: know a little bit more about this. If you can
Speaker 2: tell me your incident that you're talking about. Can you
Speaker 2: give us a date and year for this particular incident,
Speaker 2: because I know there were many of these.
Speaker 1: Yes, my incident was March twenty fourth, nineteen sixty seven.
Speaker 1: The way I been able to nail down the date,
Speaker 1: because of course I had no clear memory of the date,
Speaker 1: was because primarily of Lieutenant I'm sorry, yeah, Lieutenant. At
Speaker 1: the time Jamison, he was head of a retarding team.
Speaker 1: He was called in on that day on a date
Speaker 1: to go out to Oscar fly and restart the missiles.
Speaker 1: But he also recalls the knowing about the belt siding.
Speaker 1: We'll call it the belt siding. This is a well
Speaker 1: documented siding where a truck driver sees the UFO kind
Speaker 1: of pacing his truck as he's driving towards great Falls
Speaker 1: on the evening of the twenty fourth, early evening of
Speaker 1: the twenty fourth, well documented. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: we got the complete Blue Book files on it. And
Speaker 1: that's what Jamison remembers hearing about on the day he
Speaker 1: went out to Oscar flying. And of course this is
Speaker 1: all Jamison's testimony, it's his affidavit. The other incident that
Speaker 1: I talked about is the Echo flight incident in March sixteenth,
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty seven, so about eight days earlier, we had
Speaker 1: the Echo shut down all ten missiles. Again UFO's overhead,
Speaker 1: and again we've got witness testimony of the deputy Walt
Speaker 1: Fiegel and the commander Eric Carlson. My commander was Fred Mywald,
Speaker 1: and he's also you know, I've got audio recordings of
Speaker 1: him saying that, yeah, that's how he remembers my incident.
Speaker 1: The incident I talked about Wealth Feagel, I've also got
Speaker 1: an audio recording of him talking about his incident with fascinating.
Speaker 1: So we've got, like I said, a solid case and
Speaker 1: other witnesses supporting it. It's a very fascinating story. And
Speaker 1: I guess you go through your book, you describe reasons
Speaker 1: and these are not your opinions. These are just taking
Speaker 1: it from both sides. Give the audience a little bit
Speaker 1: about good reasons why not to be open, meaning from
Speaker 1: the federal government side about the revelation that UFOs exist,
Speaker 1: and then take the other side about why we should
Speaker 1: able to know that this particular story might very well
Speaker 1: be a true visitation of other than you know, our
Speaker 1: human kind. Just describe both of those sides for our audiences.
Speaker 1: I tried to go through some points of view, you know,
Speaker 1: taking it from the government point of view, that if
Speaker 1: they released this information made it public, could there be
Speaker 1: widespread panic for example, would the stock market be affected
Speaker 1: for example, or how people think of religion and things
Speaker 1: like that, And of course, you know, we don't know,
Speaker 1: we don't know how these I it's going to play
Speaker 1: out there. Of course, the government may have other reasons,
Speaker 1: such as they can't control these things, so how do
Speaker 1: they announce the public that they have no control over
Speaker 1: any of this? And then of course the other thing
Speaker 1: is they might have back engineered some of the technology,
Speaker 1: and of course they want to keep that secret. So
Speaker 1: maybe those are all good reasons. But bottom line is
Speaker 1: the government should be the arm of the public. I mean,
Speaker 1: they should be our representatives, and the public has a
Speaker 1: need to know. In order to have good government, the
Speaker 1: public has to be informed. I mean, that's one of
Speaker 1: the foundations of our democracy.
Speaker 2: I think now you say it so well, and I
Speaker 2: quote from page twenty eight here and I quote truth
Speaker 2: is stranger than fiction. But it is because fiction is
Speaker 2: obliged to stick to possibilities where truth isn't. End of quote,
Speaker 2: Mark Trump and Mark Twain, of course, among how many
Speaker 2: people who, of course would agree with that, But Mark
Speaker 2: Twain is the author of that. I find that statement
Speaker 2: and that quote to be very much in line with
Speaker 2: what we're talking about here today, what is truth and
Speaker 2: what is fiction? And just give us some closing comments
Speaker 2: on this, because all of a sudden, out of the blue,
Speaker 2: I'm sitting at home watching CNN and flipping back to
Speaker 2: Fox News and I hear about this story which I've
Speaker 2: always wanted to at least talk to the person I've
Speaker 2: been in search of you for a long time, sir,
Speaker 2: And again, I'm very glad that we've been able to
Speaker 2: meet here together in this interview. But describe this whole
Speaker 2: process of now coming out in the open with this subject.
Speaker 2: I mean, how long had you planned to do this
Speaker 2: news conference? And tell us a little bit about the
Speaker 2: experiences that you've had. How has this been received.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been speaking about this my particular case for
Speaker 1: over fifteen years. About a year ago, Robert Hastings and
Speaker 1: I decided to By the way, Robert Hasings wrote the
Speaker 1: book UFOs at nuke's which I can recommend. But about
Speaker 1: a year ago we decided we've got so many witnesses
Speaker 1: out there that can testify to the fact that we
Speaker 1: have had these objects overfly nuclear facilities and in my
Speaker 1: case of course, shut down our missiles. It was clearly
Speaker 1: a national security event. But the Air Force hidden behind
Speaker 1: this policy they've had since nineteen sixty nine that any
Speaker 1: UFO incident they ever investigated or heard about did not
Speaker 1: affect national security, which is completely false and misleading. And
Speaker 1: so that's the confrontation we have right now. That was
Speaker 1: the purpose really of the press conference, to have a
Speaker 1: direct confrontation with the Air Force about that statement, because
Speaker 1: we've got seven witnesses that say, no, that's not right.
Speaker 1: In fact, we have had UFO experiences at our nuclear
Speaker 1: weapons bases, and we would like answers. We would like
Speaker 1: the government to fess up and admit that this is
Speaker 1: a real phenomenon. We don't know exactly what it is,
Speaker 1: but it is a real phenomenon, and we'd like them
Speaker 1: to come clean about it.
Speaker 2: I all heartily agree, sir, And one of the things
Speaker 2: also in your book, I have to remiss if I
Speaker 2: didn't go over it is also and as I describe it,
Speaker 2: above ground missile and UFO contact the big sur off
Speaker 2: Vandenburg Air Force Base incident described to us about this
Speaker 2: whole story because this is what one of the first
Speaker 2: times that an alleged UFO intercepts a dummy warhead and
Speaker 2: does what.
Speaker 1: Well, the incident you're talking about happened during a flight,
Speaker 1: a test flight out of Vandenburg Air Force Base. The
Speaker 1: Robert I'm sorry, I can't remember his name, Robert, but
Speaker 1: that's quite okay.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's so many of these incidents that are
Speaker 2: jam packed in your book, but I think I go
Speaker 2: more to the point that it seems in the short
Speaker 2: story that a launch out of Vandenburg with a dummy
Speaker 2: warhead on some of the video or some of the
Speaker 2: movie film that was taken, we find ourselves at least
Speaker 2: they claim that there was an intercept that this pushed
Speaker 2: the warhead, though a dummy warhead, out of its flight path.
Speaker 1: That's right. I just couldn't remember the name of the individual,
Speaker 1: but absolutely he caught on video this object of flying
Speaker 1: circles around the warhead, the dummy warhead and actually shooting
Speaker 1: a beam of light at it at various times and
Speaker 1: pushed it out of its flight path so it missed
Speaker 1: its target. And this was verified by his immediate supervisor.
Speaker 1: Many they have a major mansman and they showed this
Speaker 1: video to, among others, the CIA. CIA confiscated the video
Speaker 1: and took it off. But Man's men and this other gentleman, Robert,
Speaker 1: can you help me with this name? I can't for
Speaker 1: guy's name anyway, Maybe.
Speaker 2: You don't have to answer this. Maybe the major networks
Speaker 2: never really covered this with the seriousness that I think
Speaker 2: is surrounding this. Courage all the listeners of the Doctor
Speaker 2: Sky Show to get a copy of this book entitled
Speaker 2: Fated Giant, co authored by Robert Solas and James Klotz.
Speaker 2: The title of the book in detail the nineteen sixty
Speaker 2: seven missile UFO incidents. This is a phenomenal book. And
Speaker 2: you know, in the few moments that we have Leftster,
Speaker 2: I really got to ask you a personal question on this.
Speaker 2: What's your fervent belief? Now, I mean you're now out
Speaker 2: of the Air Force, you can speak your mind. What
Speaker 2: do you think happened? And where do you think this
Speaker 2: technology is? Maybe not just from but what do you
Speaker 2: think the origin of this type of technology is.
Speaker 1: Well, I've sincerely I'm convinced that this technology is not
Speaker 1: from planet Earth. It's extraterrestrial. I believe what happened at
Speaker 1: Malstrom was simply a message. They were sending us, a
Speaker 1: signal that they understood our nuclear weapons. They knew how
Speaker 1: they worked, and they just wanted to know us to
Speaker 1: know that, and sent us the message that we really
Speaker 1: need to get rid of these weapons, otherwise we're risking
Speaker 1: our entire civilization.
Speaker 2: Well, it makes a lot of sense to me. And
Speaker 2: I heard another theory put out there a long time ago,
Speaker 2: and I wonder what your thoughts on this. I don't
Speaker 2: necessarily believe it, nor can I prove it nor disprove it. Back,
Speaker 2: of course, when we tested the trinity site at first
Speaker 2: atomic bomb at Alamogordo. Then after that was when we
Speaker 2: had the sightings of many green fireballs over New Mexico.
Speaker 2: And also a professor of mine in college, doctor Claude Tamba,
Speaker 2: who discovered Pluto. I asked him this many years before
Speaker 2: he died, and he said, there was a tremendous wave
Speaker 2: of sightings throughout the New Mexico area. And then what
Speaker 2: happens in July of nineteen forty seven, we have an
Speaker 2: alleged craft that crashed in New Mexico. I think you're
Speaker 2: right on target that. I think whatever intelligence is here
Speaker 2: maybe first witnessed from AFAR this nuclear test, and you're
Speaker 2: probably right. They seem to hover or go around where
Speaker 2: we have these type of explosions or the capability for
Speaker 2: these missiles weapons of mass destruction to be Would you agree?
Speaker 1: I would absolutely agree with that. I know mister Hastings
Speaker 1: has documented over one hundred cases just like what you're
Speaker 1: talking about over nuclear test facilities, even during the initial
Speaker 1: test to the first a bomb.
Speaker 2: Well, it's phenomenal, sir, and I really appreciate your time today. Again.
Speaker 2: The book Faded Giant in nineteen sixty seven Missile UFO Incidents.
Speaker 2: Robert Salas is our special guest. He, of course, is
Speaker 2: a former United States Air Force captain. He co authored
Speaker 2: the book with James Klants. Go, of course to Google
Speaker 2: and on Amazon and you'll be able to, of course
Speaker 2: find out where you can purchase this wonderful book, talking
Speaker 2: about a lot about the Freedom of Information Act, gathering
Speaker 2: information about these sightings that were seen by multiple people
Speaker 2: and may indeed have theoretically jeopardized national security, though the
Speaker 2: Air Force will not comment nor the government officially. Thank
Speaker 2: you so much, mister Sallis, and I appreciate your time.
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