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Speaker 1: All Star Toyota presents Off the Bench with Jacob Hester

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and Matt Flynn.

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Speaker 2: Okay, here we go where the.

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Speaker 1: Plays get broken down and Science gets denied to come

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off the bench. Hour two of Off the Bench Live

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from the Raisin Knees Studio.

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back in nowur number two ot B

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here live from the Raising Kine Studio. You heard Taday

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say it there and that's exactly where we're going. The

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New Orleans Saints have made a change at quarterback. Tyler

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Schoff will now be the starting quarterback. Spencer Rattler will

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go to the backup position. They did it against Tampa Bay.

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Shuck comes into the game for Rattler, and you know,

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I didn't think it was that close to happening like

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it played out there. It was almost like you were

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never going to give Spencer Ratler the full opportunity for

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the full season to be the guy, Like you were

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just waiting for any moment where you could put Tyler

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Shuck into the game there. And you know, for the

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people that were like you drafted even forty, you got

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to see what you have. Well here it is. Here

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is what you're going to get. You're going to get

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Tyler Shuck now as you're starting quarterback, and typically unless

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it's just an abomination, he'll stay your starting quarterback because

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you don't look just like we talked about with Spencer Ratler,

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you didn't want to mess with his confidence with the

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way that he was playing, and you didn't want to

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go in out and out.

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Speaker 2: So now Tyler Shuck's going to be your guy there.

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Speaker 3: And I personally don't think it should be the move,

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but there's a lot of people I wanted to see again.

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Speaker 2: They wanted to see Tyler Shuck as a starting quarterback.

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Speaker 3: And so now here we are, what week number what

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nine in the NFL, and he's gonna be your guy.

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Speaker 2: I would assume Matt for the rest of the season too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would assume so the way when we talked

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to Nick yesterday, he kind of brought up the point,

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and I agree with him. It is a little bit

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strange because you feel like this Kellen Moore has kind

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of been in charge of this whole process, like he's

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had a good thumb on the pulse of this whole

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process exactly how he wanted to do it. Spencer Rattler

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won the starting job. He was the best leader he's

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the best player going into the season. Now you've won

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one game, you're won and seven, So you you see

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the right in the wall that at some point Tyler

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Shuck's going to play some football. He's gonna get his

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opportunity to go in there and get some experience, get

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some game experience, and do what everybody wants him to see, which.

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Speaker 2: Is see what you have.

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Speaker 4: So you knew that was gonna happen the way it happened,

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which was a little bit, a little bit strange in

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my opinion. And you're one and seven, Yeah, your offense

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needs to spark a lot of turnovers. I get it,

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Like you can't if offensive turned If the offense turns

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the ball over, it's going to fall on the quarterbacks shoulders,

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whether it's a fumble, whether it's an interception, whether it's

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you know, directly has fault or not. And a lot

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of them what were his fault? And that was kind

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of why, you know, everybody was the protection of the football.

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The first handful of weeks was like, yeah, well this

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guy's this guy's doing great. He's doing great. He's protecting

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the football. They're not turning over, they're not losing the game.

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Well they haven't. They did turn it over. So that

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was like the first sign that like any like the

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blemish on the radar for Spencer Rattler led offense. Now,

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of course the points weren't like we were scoring as

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many points as we needed to.

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Speaker 2: They weren't plays being made.

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Speaker 4: A lot of light goes into that, but you can

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always hang your head on they're protecting the football. When

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you don't protect the football, you kind of lose lose

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that argument. So when you don't, you make a change.

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And the way they made the change, that the time

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they made the change is so weird because Kellen Moore

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such a he's all, you know, you felt like he

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was under control and at the right moment they put

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Tyler in give him an opportunity. I did find it

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strange that they threw him in in the middle of

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the game because they needed a spark on offense on

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a one and one and six football team. Yeah and down,

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pulled after she'd fumbled something like that, which you know

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it's not directly Spencer Rattler's fault. Right the offense needed

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a little spark. But for a guy that seemed to

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control in my opinion, for a move that everyone kind

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of saw that was going to come eventually in the

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season because you're not winning games. Whether it's Spencer's fault

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or not, it seemed a little bit out of character

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to this point for.

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Speaker 2: Kellen Moore, seemed a little bit out of control.

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Speaker 4: You I would have thought that when you throw him

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in there for the first time to get meaningful reps

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to take ownership and leadership of an offense, that you

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give him a week of prep to give him the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he goes out there and does fine.

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Speaker 4: I mean it looked, you know, it looked like how

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it's looked with Spencer right, some decent throws, some bad

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offensive line play, some really bad offensive line play, some

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bad receiver play, some really bad receiver play, no real

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run game, no real run game to speak of. So

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I don't anticipate it looking any different. Yeah, I'm sure

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he's gonna hit some big plays and good plays, and

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people are gonna cheer there's gonna be some frustrating place

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Speaker 2: The team's not changing around him.

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Speaker 4: But I do want to take my hat off to

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hol Spencer Rattlers handling the situation as well. Hey, he's

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handled handled it like a like a professional to the

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to the next level as well. I can tell you

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when I got when I got benched, I didn't handle

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it nearly as well as he did.

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Speaker 2: I was.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure he is too, but like it's one of

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the situations. Yeah, I saw Nick Underhill sweet yesterday about it.

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him like, hey, man, why did you why did you

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decide to take the podium Sunday after the game. You

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didn't have to. Wasn't a requirement that you could have,

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you know, done a couple of things at your locker

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and yeah, gotten taking a shower pill and got out there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, shower shower that forever.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: But he said, look, you got to handle it like

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Speaker 4: And this is you know, you take you take your lumps,

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you get knocked down, you got to keep fighting.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't change anything.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna handle this and be the best team that

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I can be, And not a lot of people will

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sit there and say that coming off in the heat

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of the moment like that, like maybe after a couple

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of days of thinking about it and prepping a speech

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and prepping like how I'm going to handle this now?

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Speaker 2: Then that was they came from the heart and he's serious.

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Speaker 4: So like a lot of a lot of kudos to him,

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which is only going to help Tyler shuck, Like if

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he knew there was a disgruntled Spencer Rattler in the room,

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the quarterback that's playing.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, and they asked, they asked him, you know

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about it after the move was made, and he said,

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I'm gonna go about my work the same way.

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Speaker 2: Pull that.

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Speaker 3: This is a little bit different quote, but he said,

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Speaker 2: Way that one. If you wanted which one. I think

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it's that same quote that you're talking about. It's part

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of the game. I'm going to be a great teammate

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and respond the right way. I think that is. Look

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at Alandra always on top of it. Let's play that audio.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean we came out of the half, didn't

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have a great drive, kept getting back to up, back

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to back to you know, just really couldn't catch a rhythm.

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get a little spark. See see what's gonna happen. And

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you know it's part of the game, you know, And

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I understand you can't control everything, but you know, hey,

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I'm gonna be a great teammate and respond the right way,

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same way. You know, it's part of the game. I've

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been through adversity before. I'm gonna be a good teammate,

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have good body language, still be a.

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Speaker 2: Leader, you know.

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Speaker 5: So I just got to show up to work, keep

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keep a smile on my face, keep working and uh,

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you know, you can only control what you can. I've

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said that before, So we'll control what I can and

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's much better than right after the game.

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Speaker 2: Right after the game, that's that's that's very Uh, let's

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Speaker 3: Why do I have the the the ultimate feeling that

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Spencer ratlet is going to go somewhere else and just

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light it up. Just has that feel to it. But

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uh yeah, look saying the right things. And for Tyler shuck. Uh,

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Speaker 2: Now he's going against the Rams.

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Speaker 4: That's that's a very very He's an opportunity.

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Speaker 2: So we call opportunities there, Jake. Yeah. Uh. Kyler Moore

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had this to say about it. We weren't playing well

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Speaker 3: It had more to do with our entire offense to

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your point, Matt, then Spencer, Yes, Spencer had some turnover

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bugs the last two weeks, but he's played plenty of

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good football. I was trying to generate a spark, trying

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Speaker 2: That tells me he was gonna go. Oh. I thought

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Speaker 2: Look I am he did play it, just keell us play.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, in a situation that is not I'm not gonna

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say anything's unfair, uh, in a situation that is, other

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guys are put in a little bit easier situation because

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they don't have guys behind him that are right there

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that are a second round pick. Kind of everybody kind

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of wants him to play at the first sign of

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a blimish, Like if you have a couple of blemishes

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and you stack them, then that's I mean, that's kind

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of riding on the table a little bit. But do

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that whatever round you were picked in.

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Speaker 2: Next day he's got a fifth round.

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Speaker 4: Is he is Bryce Young playing better than Spencer rally,

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Speaker 2: Not having somebody breathing over your shoulder, you know what

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I mean. So anyway, a lot of good too many blimmishes.

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in case of emergency. He's not looking over they've broken glass. Yeah,

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he's playing uniform and everything.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, there's no there's never there's not an unfair situation.

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We're not we're you know, playing the world's tiniest fiddle

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here for NFL football players. But yeah, it was a

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situation where he couldn't make mistakes. And when you stack

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lot of good football in front him. So we're gonna

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find out he's got an opportunity today. It's a really dangerous,

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dangerous Rams football team.

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Speaker 3: All Right, we will step away and when we come back,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, Doctor Steven Etheridge here with us as

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he is every single week to break down the latest

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injuries across the sports world.

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Speaker 3: And well we're gonna start doc with uh the twenty

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twenty four meathead Player of the Year, Cam Skataboo. He

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was playing so well, you know, the Giants weren't winning games,

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but it was fun. Jackson Dark camp Scatter, just a

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little couple of meatheads out there and just doing meathead things.

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And I mean so meathead that he tried to stand

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up after his foot was facing the opposite direction. It's

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one of those ones like you just don't even want

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to watch, kind of walk us through how that happens,

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what you do when that happens, and maybe like what

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the timetable is for his recovery.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's I guess the p s A is don't

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stand up on your foots the wrong.

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Speaker 2: He tried, and he tries. His teammates were like, no, like,

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you look at that.

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Speaker 8: Thing, right, I just looked down. Well, you see these injuries.

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Unfortunately we get them. You know, you'll see them a

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few times a year, you feel like, and most of

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the times, you know it's gonna be one of those scenarios,

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you know, where you kind of you're playing it in

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the ground, you're cutting your twist and your body weight's

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going one way, but the foot's not, you know, and

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it's it's it's something's usally gonna have to give in

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that scenario. And unfortunately, in this case, you know, he

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had what looked like an ankle dislocation at the time.

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When that happens, obviously, yeah, you're gonna see if you've

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se an extremity go in the wrong direction, never a

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good thing, ever a good thing. And and so at

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that point when you're out there assessing that, you first

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want to kind of make sure you understand where the

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severity of this injury is. You know, is does the

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person have a good pulse, because sometimes if you have

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an injury like that, you can compromise blood flow of

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distial Is is it an open dislocation or fracture, meaning

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is there a bone sticking out again? It can get

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more gruesome than just a foot going the wrong way,

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because if that's the case, you got to control bleeding

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and you got to worry about that.

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Speaker 6: It does sort of affect what we do in that scenario.

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Speaker 8: And then if possible, is it something that we can

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reduce on the field, meaning can we pop it back

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in place?

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Speaker 6: And and ultimately painful?

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Speaker 2: How painful is that it hurt? Adrenaline going?

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Speaker 8: Adrenaline's going, and that's why I mean, you want to

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get as quick as you can. Adrenaline is still going,

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then you want to get that guy then and and

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and and and typically it hurts more when it's out

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of place. Obviously when it's back in So even though yeah,

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popping it back end is gonna hurt, then it's like, oh,

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I feel better now, you know, you get that, you

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get that immediate relief. So we're gonna try our best

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to get it back in place for a lot of

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reasons as quickly as possible, you know. And it's it's

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it's funny how last week I believe we talked about,

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you know, wearing the boots around the facility and the

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boot's not necessarily a bad sign. But when you see

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that vacuum splint come out, you see that splint where

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we're pumping it, and it's the one that you saw

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him leave, that's never that's yeah, you don't want to

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see the vacuum splint coming off the field. That's gonna

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be one because that's something where we're stabilizing that joint

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immediately because it's an unstable joint in that scenario, So

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you know, and then that's gonna be one.

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Speaker 2: There.

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Speaker 8: They're almost always gonna know, be surgical and things like that,

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especially an ankle, it's gonna typically need surgery. We're gonna

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get evaluated, not right away, but it's it's gonna be

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Speaker 3: All right, all right, real quick, Sorry Matt, to cut

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you off, but I wanted to ask, like, what's docs

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countdown when you're popping back in place? Is it on

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three and you go one and then you just do it?

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Is it like do you change it up?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm typically not gonna go on three. I'm gonna

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I'm gonna get you a little quick. Uh so fair warning. Yeah,

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you know we're gonna talk to him about it. If

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you wanted to kind of know what you're gonna do. Uh,

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I've got I've grabbed a couple you know, maybe upper

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str fingers and just done it before you can give

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him the warning.

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Speaker 6: You know you're gonna have to do it at.

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Speaker 8: Or half a second, you see that, you see that

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anger in the eye, and you gotta kind of you

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kinda get kind of lean back just in case a

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fist comes flying. But then but then immediately it turns

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from you know, to gratitude as soon as you get

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it in.

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Speaker 4: How do you decide in the moment you talked about

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you have to figure out you have to diagnose if

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it can be popped back into place, because I'm assuming

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there's some injuries where it's dislocated, where there could be

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some nerve or something issue that you don't want to

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pop it back into place. Like it's how do you

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make that decision in like in the heat of the moment,

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in the split second one.

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Speaker 8: You know a lot of the times you know it's

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going to be you know, if you if you look

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at it and if there's something obviously out of place,

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you know, an open injury, can we even get this

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back in?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 8: That's that's what I was saying earlier, if there's a

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bone sticking out something crazy, do I really fel like

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I can even get this to go back right?

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Speaker 6: So that's going to be the first obvious one.

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Speaker 8: And then once you've got to move beyond that, you know,

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sometimes you're gonna kind of have to get a little fuel.

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Speaker 6: For what's going on. You have to kind of put

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your hands on it.

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Speaker 8: And if that's the thing's not moving too much when

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I grab it, I'm you know, it might be something

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where we don't want to do it on the field

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at the very least. You know, a lot of times

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the shoulder pops out sometimes that can be a little

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harder to get back in, so you know, we may

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try once or twice really quickly kind of you know,

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and if we can't get it low key real quick,

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we might get them off into the tent or even

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into the locker room. So so it's a I don't know,

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there's one thing you look for outside the big catastrophic,

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But once you get beyond that, it's it's a lot

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of times a little bit of a trial and er.

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If it's not sliding in really easy, we might wait

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until we.

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Speaker 2: Because last year it was kind of it was kind

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of funny.

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Speaker 4: My wife and I joked about it now, not to

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like compare the two injuries between, like an ankle dislocation,

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but my wife were we were throwing football with our

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kids outside and she broke her pinky and it was

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like hanging to the side, and I was like, well,

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close your eyes, I'm gonna pop this thing back in.

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And I didn't do it because she was in so

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much pain. So I called the doc and I was like,

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they're like, well, good thing you didn't pop it back

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into place because there's like a spiral fracture in it.

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I'm like, well, how would I would have known? Like,

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because I remember I remember the hill?

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Speaker 2: Would you think your ass was qualified enough to do that? Though?

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Because I've seen I've seen people do it. I think

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my dad did it to me when I was a kid.

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Speaker 8: Well, and then it is a fracture sometimes so is

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it at the joint and sometimes where the disruption is Well,

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my brother's a doctor.

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Speaker 2: I think I felt like I could do it.

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Speaker 6: Hang around us enough.

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Speaker 2: It's friends of the family. Jesus, all right, relax, guy, employees.

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It had my bone sticking out, Matt, So it's fun.

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Get some tape.

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Speaker 4: So when you when you have that inflatable cast that

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comes out, it doesn't necessarily mean that there's a compound fracture, right,

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and compounds like when it's sticking out.

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Speaker 8: Correct, Yeah, compound open, there's a couple of different terms

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we use for those, but same thing. You know, it

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doesn't necessarily mean that. No, it typically means it's an

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unstable injury, or we're worried that it's an unstable injury

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at the very least if it's something dislocated, something broken.

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Almost definitely when you see that, you know, there might

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be a few times we're maybe a little overly cautious

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and put it on just in case, but most of

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the time you see the vacuum splint.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's gonna be one of those types of.

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Speaker 4: Injuries when that happens, Like if you have an open

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wound like that from a broken bone or dislocation, there's

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a bone sticking.

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Speaker 2: I remember there.

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Speaker 4: We had a guy in Green Bay who snapped his

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femur in half and the femur was sticking out of

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his thigh and I was like what, And of course

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everyone's back the way, no one's really seeing what happening

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because it gets in that cast pretty quickly, like is it.

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I don't want to like make light of the situation,

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but like you push, push the bone back in and

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then like cover up the open wound, Like what do

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you do on the.

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Speaker 6: Definitely gonna cover up the open wound.

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Speaker 8: You're gonna kind of if you can kind of get

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a better alignment, you're gonna you're gonna aim for that.

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And then if you think about a part of the

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benefit of having this vacuum splint is the compression because

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anytime you have have a open wound that's bleeding, you,

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especially if it's around a big best vessel, you want

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to stop the bleeding. So everything we can do and

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part of that is that that vacuum splint is gonna

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put pressure on the wound, is gonna kind of compress it.

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So so that's where we're starting a lot of times.

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we'll cover it.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 8: Obviously that's one that we're gonna get a little bit

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more rapidly out of there to the to the hospital

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so we can flush that thing out because you gotta st

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worry about infection and things like that. So you really

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want to clean those out good and as quick as

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you can. Uh So, so all that process starts immediately.

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Speaker 3: I mean you worry about infections and everything, right, can

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you be like certain out there you.

475
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Speaker 8: Know field and all the all the stuff that's out there.

476
00:20:59,799 --> 00:21:02,039
I mean, it's it's you got to really watch those

477
00:21:02,079 --> 00:21:03,359
things out good. And you know, there's been a couple

478
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,079
of guys that over the years you've seen it, you

479
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,359
that have had those unfortunately where they got infected after

480
00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,839
the fact they had their surgery. And even if you

481
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,880
do everything right, it's a you got to get every

482
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bit of that out of there, and that could be hard.

483
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:19,079
Speaker 3: Uh this next question, you can just say no else

484
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:20,680
you's had a head coaching change.

485
00:21:20,839 --> 00:21:21,599
Speaker 2: We all know that.

486
00:21:23,599 --> 00:21:25,880
Speaker 3: You're one of the team doctors, and so you you know,

487
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:30,160
have communication with the head coach. Like so now when

488
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,359
you have an interim coach, but it is somebody you know,

489
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,119
I mean you've known Frank for a long time, it's

490
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just kind of the same like because you know Frank,

491
00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,000
it's just like, Okay, well that's just who we're going

492
00:21:39,079 --> 00:21:42,559
to talk with now about injuries, and it's just yeah.

493
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Speaker 6: You know, every coach has gonna have a little bit.

494
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Speaker 2: Of a different information.

495
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:48,839
Speaker 6: Yeah, some of them want it right away.

496
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,400
Speaker 8: Some of them just say, hey, look we're gonna we're

497
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,359
gonna figure this out later. Some of them want to

498
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,359
hear it, you know, on Sundays we go into we

499
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,160
do treatments. Some of the coaches like to meet with us.

500
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:57,279
Some of them, I just like to get it from

501
00:21:57,319 --> 00:21:59,200
one source. Some of them want to hear.

502
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Speaker 2: The whole group.

503
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Speaker 8: So so they're all gonna have a little bit of

504
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,000
their own approach. To your point, you know, we transition

505
00:22:04,079 --> 00:22:05,839
here to Frank should be pretty easy for us. He's

506
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,559
a guy that that's been around the program a while,

507
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,000
guy that all of us have relationships with. I've known

508
00:22:10,039 --> 00:22:11,920
Frank pretty much. He was there when I got here

509
00:22:12,759 --> 00:22:14,599
his last go round. So I mean his guy that

510
00:22:14,599 --> 00:22:16,480
I've known a long time. I think is gonna do

511
00:22:16,519 --> 00:22:19,119
a great job. And and yeah, so I don't I

512
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:20,480
don't think for us there's gonna be much.

513
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 6: Of a change.

514
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,119
Speaker 8: It will be pretty seamless, right But but but yeah,

515
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:24,400
to your point, each coach is gonna do it a

516
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,279
little bit different, and he may tell us that hey,

517
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this is how I want it.

518
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,680
Speaker 6: And that's what we'll do. You know, we can. We're

519
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:30,359
pretty adapted with those types of things.

520
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,880
Speaker 4: Have y'all been kind of in tune with another Schedules

521
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,839
are going to be probably a little bit different. Frank's

522
00:22:35,839 --> 00:22:37,200
gonna have his own touch on a couple of things.

523
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,240
We got a bye week this week, second bye week,

524
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so we've kind of you have the routine down from

525
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:43,519
last time, but it might be a little bit different.

526
00:22:43,559 --> 00:22:45,480
It would be your first day in you expecting a

527
00:22:45,519 --> 00:22:48,359
different like schedule changes or anything. I know, it's a

528
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,480
bye week, is a big week to get rested, be

529
00:22:50,559 --> 00:22:56,079
it recovered, get treatment, and of course continue to treat

530
00:22:56,079 --> 00:22:58,599
the injuries that are already there. But I expected any

531
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any new schedule this week.

532
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 6: I think schedule will be similar.

533
00:23:02,319 --> 00:23:04,319
Speaker 8: You know that he may add in a different workout

534
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,680
here or there, which might have a slight effect on us.

535
00:23:06,799 --> 00:23:08,920
I think, you know, the thing I've been hearing, you know,

536
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,160
mostly is just the attitude. You know, they're they're really

537
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,880
trying to be more intense, trying to to pick up

538
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,960
the intensity is the is the big thing I've heard.

539
00:23:16,079 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 6: And you know, does that really change the schedule?

540
00:23:17,759 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 8: No, But I think I think what I've got out

541
00:23:20,039 --> 00:23:21,920
of the first day out of yesterday's practice I heard

542
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,559
it was a little more of an intense practice than

543
00:23:23,559 --> 00:23:26,119
you would he only expect or what we would have

544
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:28,240
expected during a bye week. I think trying to pick

545
00:23:28,279 --> 00:23:31,519
up the energy a little bit, which.

546
00:23:31,319 --> 00:23:33,400
Speaker 2: Is what we want to hear. That's exactly what I

547
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:33,960
wanted to hear.

548
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,799
Speaker 3: That is exactly because there's only one speed at LSU,

549
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,039
and that speed was not being played, and here's hoping

550
00:23:41,039 --> 00:23:42,000
that it gets played.

551
00:23:42,559 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 2: Uh, Doc, we appreciate it.

552
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,759
Speaker 3: I always appreciate the time, even though you're talking about

553
00:23:45,759 --> 00:23:48,640
bone sticking out in the back end and.

554
00:23:49,519 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 2: Yep, my pleasure.

555
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,039
Speaker 3: Real quick, what's the worst bone you've ever seen out

556
00:23:54,039 --> 00:23:55,759
on a football field on.

557
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,279
Speaker 8: A football field, it's it's probably been an ankle. Uh

558
00:23:58,559 --> 00:24:00,839
some some of the er they're little bit different it. Yeah,

559
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,720
what about we had femurs a minute ago. I had

560
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,400
Amerasa have one second. I was a med student in this,

561
00:24:08,559 --> 00:24:10,599
like my first week on a trauma rotation, so very

562
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,480
very new to this. And literally guy comes in from

563
00:24:12,519 --> 00:24:15,759
motorcycle accident and his ankle was hanging on by a

564
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,279
thread of tissue. Fact, the whold My job was the whole.

565
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:20,319
Speaker 2: I'm a lowly med.

566
00:24:20,279 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 8: Students guy, I'm like, uh, you mean his foot and

567
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,160
I'm looking there is like one little piece of like

568
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:27,839
tissue hole.

569
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:29,319
Speaker 6: I'm just like, my eyes.

570
00:24:29,079 --> 00:24:31,119
Speaker 2: Get this big and can you say is it? You

571
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:31,880
can't say that.

572
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,319
Speaker 6: Right in that scenario didn't didn't work out?

573
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,079
Speaker 4: So well yeah right, yeah, So, like I think most

574
00:24:37,079 --> 00:24:41,200
people when we watch sports and like a bad fracture,

575
00:24:41,519 --> 00:24:43,960
a break happens, or something goes to the direction it's

576
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,480
not supposed to go. But God did not create it

577
00:24:46,519 --> 00:24:50,640
that way. It's most of us turn away, right. I can't, like,

578
00:24:50,759 --> 00:24:53,799
I don't like to see bones breaking, like, but I

579
00:24:53,839 --> 00:24:56,119
know your experience with it. To be a doctor you

580
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,200
have to have you can't have that. So but is

581
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,079
there every time it's like you walk up to it

582
00:25:01,079 --> 00:25:03,640
and like you just go, oh yeah.

583
00:25:03,519 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 6: Well good, well I will say this.

584
00:25:06,039 --> 00:25:07,599
Speaker 8: That's the one that makes it worse than sideline because

585
00:25:07,599 --> 00:25:09,279
these are kids that I know, you know, it's a

586
00:25:09,279 --> 00:25:09,759
little different.

587
00:25:10,799 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

588
00:25:11,319 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 8: So so even though yeah, from the ear, you coming

589
00:25:13,039 --> 00:25:14,680
with this ankle turning the wrong way, you maybe it's

590
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,119
a half second oof, but you know you kind of

591
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,599
turn the switch when you're out there, you know, you realize, like, hey,

592
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,440
this ankle is attached to this guy that I know

593
00:25:21,559 --> 00:25:23,599
really well, kid that I care about. It does have

594
00:25:23,599 --> 00:25:26,039
a little bit of a different effect then true.

595
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 2: You have been like, get up.

596
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, you can break those cankles, strongest cankles.

597
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608
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low of on three joins us to break down what's

609
00:26:05,559 --> 00:26:08,640
going on at l s U, what's he hearing.

610
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,519
Speaker 2: Who's gonna be the next head coach? All of that.

611
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,200
When we come back on O T B.

612
00:26:13,279 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 10: Off the Bench, y'all really boost say here we go,

613
00:26:23,519 --> 00:26:30,559
y'all really post post dirty soap hang.

614
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: Out blocked in on L s U Football twenty four

615
00:26:34,000 --> 00:27:11,559
to seven. You're listening to Off the Bench.

616
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 2: All right, welcome back in O t B.

617
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,319
Speaker 3: Trying to get in contact with a guy Chris Love

618
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:03,279
on three certainly.

619
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 2: To all back in the day little league baseball. The

620
00:27:08,079 --> 00:27:08,920
name christ Love.

621
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 4: It's one of those guys that got really tall early.

622
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,359
He was like, you know, over six foot, so it

623
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:14,039
wasn't very low.

624
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 2: He went low. Sorry, baseball player. What's Chris doing now?

625
00:27:22,279 --> 00:27:24,319
I don't know. I had spoken to him since that season.

626
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 4: I think we didn't go to the same school on

627
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,200
the same team though, gotcha, I'm.

628
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 2: I get it. You know, clicky, have any high school

629
00:27:32,519 --> 00:27:33,599
friends that you still stay.

630
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,759
Speaker 4: In contact with a lot, which is unfortunate kind of

631
00:27:36,759 --> 00:27:39,480
happens when you kind of move away and go back.

632
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,519
Couldn't go to my ten year reunion because I was

633
00:27:41,559 --> 00:27:42,400
playing football?

634
00:27:42,519 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too, although my high school doesn't have reunions,

635
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,759
so it didn't really matter that I was playing football.

636
00:27:49,799 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 4: Street Port evangel seems like the peak place that would

637
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,359
have reunions. And it's like, I don't even need to

638
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,319
dust off my letter jacket because I still wear it

639
00:27:56,759 --> 00:27:57,480
pretty frequently.

640
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:58,039
Speaker 2: I see.

641
00:27:58,039 --> 00:28:00,599
Speaker 3: That's I kind of wish it was like that. I

642
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,279
wish it was like West Caine and the coyotes.

643
00:28:03,799 --> 00:28:06,039
Speaker 2: It wasn't. I didn't even like have a letterman jacket

644
00:28:06,279 --> 00:28:08,880
because like we all sport.

645
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 4: That is one of the more shocking things because I'm

646
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:16,240
a jock. No, just because you know, the report of

647
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,640
Angels seems.

648
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,640
Speaker 2: I don't want to say it, but it seems kind

649
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:20,079
of douchey.

650
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 3: Oh it's because you wouldn't play us.

651
00:28:23,079 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 4: I can say that on there, I think so Taylor London,

652
00:28:26,759 --> 00:28:27,640
I say douchey Hunter.

653
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 3: I mean you said like three times right then, so

654
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,920
well it's confirmation it was for education. I can just

655
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,359
tell you right now. We had to work y'all. We

656
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,200
had to beat y'all with our frosted tips.

657
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 4: And it would have been a tight first one and

658
00:28:41,039 --> 00:28:42,200
a half quarters something like that.

659
00:28:43,839 --> 00:28:46,359
Speaker 3: After like the fifteenth past that we just hit over

660
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:47,960
the top of your basic Cover three.

661
00:28:48,559 --> 00:28:50,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably like probably.

662
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:55,519
Speaker 4: Super basic looking back on it. Oh, cover three is tough.

663
00:28:55,559 --> 00:28:57,000
You gotta drop a safety down. There's a lot of

664
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,160
communication that has to happen.

665
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 2: But true, that's fair, that's completely fair. Yeah, No, ten

666
00:29:03,039 --> 00:29:06,480
yure reunion, No twenty year, which twenty year would have

667
00:29:06,519 --> 00:29:07,200
been last year.

668
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,920
Speaker 4: So but I'll spend on the ball seven to nine

669
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,319
times a game he'd have been toast.

670
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,599
Speaker 3: You know, you weren't going at seven and nine times.

671
00:29:17,599 --> 00:29:20,000
You know, it was more three or four those.

672
00:29:19,799 --> 00:29:22,599
Speaker 2: A couple of games now maybe six seven completions. How

673
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,680
you think those ankles got so sturdy it was running

674
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,200
the option? I don't know. How do I get recruited? Uh?

675
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:29,279
Well you barely did.

676
00:29:29,319 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 3: We found that out when we had jimbo On duly

677
00:29:32,279 --> 00:29:37,200
said your ankles were not recruitable. All right, let's go

678
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,079
to the phone lines now. Our guy Chris low On

679
00:29:40,279 --> 00:29:42,559
three joins us. See Low, what's going on?

680
00:29:42,599 --> 00:29:45,279
Speaker 9: Brother? How we doing doing great?

681
00:29:45,359 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 8: Jacob?

682
00:29:46,119 --> 00:29:49,279
Speaker 9: Good to do with you guys here on the bye

683
00:29:49,359 --> 00:29:51,200
you you guys look for a head football coach.

684
00:29:52,559 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, that we do for sure, se Low and Hey,

685
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,759
one of the things that I want to ask you

686
00:29:57,799 --> 00:30:01,000
about is the timing of everything now compared to what

687
00:30:01,039 --> 00:30:03,839
it used to be. And we were talking about it earlier,

688
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,000
you know. Coach O got hired at the end of November.

689
00:30:06,039 --> 00:30:08,079
Brian Kelly got hired at the end of November because

690
00:30:08,079 --> 00:30:10,240
it was a fourteen playoff for BK and even though

691
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,960
they still had a chance at getting into the fourteen playoff,

692
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,119
he decides to take the LSU job. Well, now with

693
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,960
the twelve team playoff, and every candidate that we talk

694
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,599
about with LSU, for the most part is somebody that

695
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,720
still has a chance at the twelve team playoff.

696
00:30:25,759 --> 00:30:26,079
Speaker 2: And so.

697
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,839
Speaker 3: What does a timing look like now, because we know

698
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,839
like early signing day's December the third.

699
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 2: Now the transfer portal windows not till January.

700
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 3: Now that got pushed back, but it's early January, Jared,

701
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,799
I believe January the second is when that starts. And

702
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,039
so seelow, do you think that LSU will wait for

703
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,240
the right guy, even though it's not a guarantee if

704
00:30:45,279 --> 00:30:46,799
you wait for said right guy.

705
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,759
Speaker 9: I've asked that same question to people near all these

706
00:30:51,759 --> 00:30:54,079
situations and they all have told me the same thing

707
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,480
that if it's the right guy, the guy they absolutely

708
00:30:57,559 --> 00:31:00,079
won't that absolutely because they're not going to let the

709
00:31:00,079 --> 00:31:02,359
fact that the season gets pushed or has been pushed

710
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,559
back keep them from hiring the coach that they all want.

711
00:31:06,599 --> 00:31:09,319
And of course, the game everyone's talking about Flint Kiffin,

712
00:31:09,359 --> 00:31:12,359
I understand that's been you know, batting about the well,

713
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,079
what if ole miss makes a deep front to playoff,

714
00:31:15,079 --> 00:31:17,839
which they could, I mean, the first game is what

715
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,119
the nineteenth of December. So let's say they win that

716
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,200
or even gonna buy and don't play until January. I

717
00:31:26,279 --> 00:31:28,920
still later that year, I guess later in the year,

718
00:31:29,039 --> 00:31:32,079
right before New Year's I don't think that will be

719
00:31:32,079 --> 00:31:35,960
a deal breaker. Would it make it more difficult? Yeah,

720
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:41,519
But I don't think a school in this case LSU

721
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:45,440
or flour for that matter, are going to sacrifice the

722
00:31:45,519 --> 00:31:47,519
guy that they want and the guy they feel like

723
00:31:47,519 --> 00:31:49,319
they can get. The guy that they feel like is

724
00:31:49,359 --> 00:31:52,079
the difference maker, because I think we have it's been

725
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,599
proven at LSU and other schools. If you get the

726
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:58,200
right guy, then you're gonna win a high level. Certainly

727
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:03,759
at LSU. Kelly's three possessors all won national championships at

728
00:32:03,759 --> 00:32:06,880
Florida or amer One national title sees Fur won a

729
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,359
national title. Look at your old coach, Nick Saban did

730
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,119
at LSU. I mean people forget Jake. LSU had lost,

731
00:32:14,319 --> 00:32:18,440
had had nine loves in season eleven years before Nick

732
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,680
got yeah, uh and he wins one in oh three.

733
00:32:21,759 --> 00:32:24,519
Look at what Alabama was that said the fire. So

734
00:32:24,559 --> 00:32:26,799
I think there's too many examples out there, even though

735
00:32:26,799 --> 00:32:30,519
we're a different time with the season being extended. If

736
00:32:30,519 --> 00:32:33,359
a school gets the right coach, it makes all the

737
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:34,200
difference in the world.

738
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,599
Speaker 4: Chris, does it become a waiting like you're saying, like

739
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,680
if a team has their guy pinpointed and they think

740
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,519
they have a good opportunity to get I'm like, time

741
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,160
is not really the issue. They will wait for that

742
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:48,440
right guy because, like you said, if you get the

743
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,079
right guy, anything can happen.

744
00:32:50,519 --> 00:32:52,039
Speaker 2: We see what happens.

745
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 4: But I'm looking at the landscape and I'm looking at

746
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,920
all of college football. I'm looking at the coaching openings

747
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,160
right now. There are a lot of blue blood that

748
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,440
are going to be looking for coaches, and there's only

749
00:33:02,519 --> 00:33:04,880
so many of those people that has ended up on

750
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:05,960
the top of everybody's list.

751
00:33:06,079 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 2: Right now.

752
00:33:06,559 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 4: Lane Kiffin is the hot name that everybody's talking about,

753
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,720
but he's also being talked about for the Florida job,

754
00:33:10,759 --> 00:33:13,160
for the Penn State job, for every job. And there's

755
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,039
going to be more big time schools that come open.

756
00:33:16,119 --> 00:33:18,519
So at some point, if you're an LSU, if you're

757
00:33:18,519 --> 00:33:20,279
a Florida, if you're at Penn State, are you looking

758
00:33:20,319 --> 00:33:20,599
at all?

759
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 2: Right?

760
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 4: There's two guys that we really want that we would

761
00:33:24,319 --> 00:33:28,720
wait until mid January for but there's five positions, five teams,

762
00:33:28,799 --> 00:33:32,119
including the team that he's currently at that we think

763
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,759
that he may or may not go to.

764
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:35,279
Speaker 2: So how confident?

765
00:33:35,319 --> 00:33:40,079
Speaker 4: How many like back channel conversations can you have that

766
00:33:40,119 --> 00:33:43,920
would make an LSU or Florida comfortable waiting that long

767
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,759
with so many good job openings open.

768
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,039
Speaker 9: Yeah, there's no way a school considers in on one

769
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,440
just one guy first of all, but they will stir

770
00:33:54,599 --> 00:33:57,880
in on their guy and have those backchannel conversations. All

771
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:05,839
these coaches have agents, not the same agent, so yeah,

772
00:34:05,839 --> 00:34:08,760
I mean their conversations being hell and you know James

773
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,639
excuse me not James Franklin and Marcus Freeman is another

774
00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:13,480
guy a lot of schools would love to have. And

775
00:34:13,519 --> 00:34:15,559
I know there's been reports out because he's not going

776
00:34:15,559 --> 00:34:18,360
here and going there, But she still kicked the tires

777
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:23,159
with guys like that. You just do Are people kicking

778
00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:25,559
the tires with a cannon de boar out West? Hey?

779
00:34:25,559 --> 00:34:29,280
Are you really happy they're in Alabama? So you know

780
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,920
it's Penn State doing that, So I guarantee you there

781
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,639
and not just with Lane Kiffin. There are those conversations

782
00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:38,239
because that's why you hire an agent, right, you coach

783
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,119
a football team, you know, And Lane has told me, hey,

784
00:34:41,119 --> 00:34:43,280
I didn't you know, I didn't handled the last time

785
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,760
real well, you know when when Auburn came after him

786
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,960
betweenty twenty two. I think he's learned from that. I

787
00:34:49,039 --> 00:34:52,239
think everyone has learned from that, you know, around him.

788
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,760
So I don't think it's a deal breaker. Does it

789
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,880
make it harder? Does it make a school be a

790
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,679
little bit more creative and make sure you've got a

791
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,440
a couple of guys that you all like that. Everybody

792
00:35:02,679 --> 00:35:07,119
makes these life Absolutely, But we've seen coordinators do it now,

793
00:35:07,119 --> 00:35:11,079
granted in a fourteen playoff for man. Kirby Smart did

794
00:35:11,079 --> 00:35:14,480
it when he was Alabama and went to Georgia. Dan

795
00:35:14,599 --> 00:35:17,920
Landing did it when he was at Georgia and went

796
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,760
to Oregon. Again, coordinators and the head coaches you know

797
00:35:22,119 --> 00:35:24,880
at the time is a little bit different animal, but

798
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,280
it is. It is at least similar, And I have

799
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:31,519
no doubt that. Let's say it is Lane Kiffin at

800
00:35:31,639 --> 00:35:34,639
LSU or Florida or wherever. But I'm telling you, guys,

801
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,880
you're right, they're gonna be other open. We're not done.

802
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,000
I think Florida State absolutely could open.

803
00:35:40,559 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.

804
00:35:41,079 --> 00:35:42,639
Speaker 9: And I got a little secret for you. And Lane

805
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:46,239
Kiffin was majorly in play there at Florida State two

806
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,880
years ago when it looked like Norville might go to Alabama.

807
00:35:50,599 --> 00:35:52,360
You know, so there's gonna be other you know, does

808
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,960
Auburn open And again I'm not suggesting that Lang was

809
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,000
at Alburn, but you guys know that these other jibs

810
00:36:00,199 --> 00:36:03,119
start opening that there's even more with dollin all effect,

811
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,239
and then everyone starts trying to race to meet the

812
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,639
other one to get their guy. Guys, I don't is

813
00:36:09,679 --> 00:36:12,840
there enough coaches out there who truly qualify and established

814
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:14,480
to fill all these jobs?

815
00:36:14,599 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, now I'm with you. I'm with you too.

816
00:36:17,679 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 3: And and also like not only that ce Low and

817
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:24,559
again I agree, but it's like for LSU, it's like, Okay,

818
00:36:24,599 --> 00:36:27,119
well you need something different than what you just had

819
00:36:27,199 --> 00:36:29,480
for Penn State. You need something different like Flora. You

820
00:36:29,559 --> 00:36:32,719
know how that goes? Like for Florida, they're probably not

821
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,519
looking at John Sumral from Tulane because they just hired

822
00:36:35,519 --> 00:36:37,440
a coach out of the Sunbelt billion apier and it

823
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,880
didn't work well. So their fan base doesn't want to

824
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,440
hear another group of six coach even though John Sumral

825
00:36:42,519 --> 00:36:45,519
is a really good football coach for LSU, like, don't

826
00:36:45,519 --> 00:36:48,159
talk about James Franklin because they feel like they just

827
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,000
had a version of James Franklin. Probably the same thing

828
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,239
for Penn State and Brian Kelly's name got brought out there.

829
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,519
So not only is it the pool going to be small,

830
00:36:55,639 --> 00:36:57,920
there's also different filters based off the job.

831
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 9: Yeah, and I think again, let's just choose Florida and

832
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,239
l s U. Now there are different schools, and I'm

833
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,639
not saying they're the same, but they're both a SEC schools.

834
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:12,239
They both have unbelievably fertile recruiting grounds in their states.

835
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,400
So if you're l s U right now, or if

836
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,280
you're Florida, I think you want guys that will fit,

837
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,039
Guys that understand the conference, guys who are coaching the conference,

838
00:37:21,079 --> 00:37:24,719
Guys that are recruiting the conference. Guys that will galvanize

839
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,519
the money people. Jake were The two of us have

840
00:37:27,559 --> 00:37:31,159
talked about this that when ex coach comes in, whether

841
00:37:31,159 --> 00:37:34,159
it's Jacob Pastor or Chris lower Lane Kiffin, that they're

842
00:37:34,159 --> 00:37:36,840
going to get the money people there exciting enough that

843
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,880
they're going to invest. I got a piece coming out

844
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,320
later there on three. And by the way, Jacob, you

845
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:47,239
are prominently featured in this piece. And I talked to

846
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:51,199
your former coach, Nick Saban about this and it was

847
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,679
really interesting what he had to say about what makes

848
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,199
a good job now. But I think those are the

849
00:37:56,199 --> 00:37:59,719
things that those two schools in particular, when you come in,

850
00:38:01,039 --> 00:38:03,840
you know, do the guys who have money, because let's

851
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,880
be honest that Flora and LSU and DAMA and Texas,

852
00:38:07,159 --> 00:38:10,760
all of those schools have guys boosters who have tons

853
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,280
of money. But the question is how many of those

854
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,400
can you get to pulling up a kind of money's

855
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,559
going to take now to build rosters, right, And I

856
00:38:19,559 --> 00:38:22,920
think that's that is the No. Number one thing in schools,

857
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,480
evaluate cans. Who can we get in here that's gonna

858
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:32,400
truly help galvanize our money people, get them together, earn

859
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,360
the kind of trust and confidence that we're going to

860
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:37,599
be able to give them the kind of money to

861
00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:39,519
build this roster. I mean LSU was a little bit

862
00:38:40,159 --> 00:38:41,880
late to the party. They spend a ton of money

863
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,000
on this roster, which, yeah, heads crashing and they're not better.

864
00:38:46,519 --> 00:38:49,599
I guess around eighteen millions. But I think that's that's

865
00:38:49,639 --> 00:38:51,440
that's the waters you got to be swimming in, whether

866
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,039
it's Florida, LSU, or anywhere.

867
00:38:54,679 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 4: Chris, I don't think there's ever been a more challenging

868
00:38:57,039 --> 00:39:00,719
time in college football history to be a head coach

869
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,039
or to be a coach, just because of the nil

870
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,000
and having to navigate a brand new world and brand

871
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,760
new landscape, and having to constantly recruit guys that are

872
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,679
still on the roster and navigate you know, salaries and

873
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,519
paying players and everything like that. But with the emergence

874
00:39:16,599 --> 00:39:20,719
of a twelve team playoff, the expectations certainly have skyrocket,

875
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,199
and I think that's probably one of the big reasons

876
00:39:22,199 --> 00:39:26,119
we're seeing so many coaching turnovers mid season is because, well,

877
00:39:26,159 --> 00:39:27,840
you know, with the four team playoff, that was one thing.

878
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,519
It's like, all right, that's the top four. It's fine,

879
00:39:29,519 --> 00:39:32,840
we're close to that. We're not there yet, It's understandable.

880
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,880
But with a twelve team playoff, it seems like every

881
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,880
team that has a chance feels like they should be

882
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,960
making the playoffs. So they have this definitive line that says,

883
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,639
twelve team playoff it should be. I mean, it's a

884
00:39:42,679 --> 00:39:44,920
lot harder than you think, but it should be you know,

885
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,760
a lot easier to make that playoff.

886
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,039
Speaker 2: So it's either playoff or bust.

887
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 4: And when you get eliminated or mathematically eliminated from that opportunity,

888
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,480
I think the fan base becomes a little restless. Have

889
00:39:54,519 --> 00:39:56,679
you ever do you think that is playing a big

890
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,280
part in a lot of these coaches being that we

891
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,679
didn't think getting turned over turnover?

892
00:40:02,639 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, I think it's everything is geared down towards

893
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,880
the playoffs that if you don't make the playoffs, it's

894
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,440
been a bad season. And you know, you know, eight

895
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,679
years ago, ten years ago you had four making it,

896
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,280
and you know, making it New Year six Bowl was

897
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,519
a big deal. It's it's going to a bowl game.

898
00:40:20,559 --> 00:40:22,639
Now it's not a big deal, certainly with the kind

899
00:40:22,679 --> 00:40:26,320
of money as you point out, that's being spent on rosters,

900
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:31,320
on coaches, and when you know, people whether are wealthy,

901
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,079
don't typically in my experience, spend money nless. They thinks

902
00:40:36,079 --> 00:40:38,920
there's going to be a return on their investment, and

903
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,639
there's certainly not going to keep doing it if there's

904
00:40:41,679 --> 00:40:43,719
no return. And I think the people now that are

905
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,400
funding on all these flectors feel like right or wrong

906
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,599
that they have or should have more of a say,

907
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,000
and there's going to be more pressure from that on coaches.

908
00:40:54,519 --> 00:40:56,760
I think that's sort of what you're saying, that, hey,

909
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,320
we got to get this done quick, we got to

910
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,880
flip this thing quick. And I think for a guy

911
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:05,079
like Brian Kelly, the problem was that you saw. There's

912
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,079
other examples of that. You know, Kirby Smart in his

913
00:41:08,199 --> 00:41:11,719
second year at Georgia had Georgia in the national championship team.

914
00:41:13,159 --> 00:41:17,400
Josh Heifel in his second year it was his second

915
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,320
year at Tennessee or third year, had Tennessee the playoff.

916
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,960
So here recently, Blayne had over that's the game away

917
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,280
from the playoff last year. He's won ten games a

918
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,800
bunch of years, so you know, he's slipped it pretty quickly.

919
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,599
And I think that's with the money again it's being

920
00:41:35,679 --> 00:41:38,840
doled out. There is that pressure. I think that it's

921
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,079
probably greater than we've ever seen it before, which is

922
00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:45,400
why ads get squirrely. Money people get squirrely. They put

923
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,599
pressure on a D and then we've sort of seen

924
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:52,639
then the A D maybe is not as front and

925
00:41:52,679 --> 00:41:54,519
center and making something he's high. I mean, look at

926
00:41:54,559 --> 00:41:57,320
what is happened in Virginia tide. I don't know how

927
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,599
much badcock you know, is involved. People are bringing it

928
00:42:00,599 --> 00:42:02,559
in general manners to make I mean, how much well

929
00:42:02,599 --> 00:42:06,079
scott Wood would be involved in this higher Uh. There's

930
00:42:06,119 --> 00:42:08,440
a lot of those questions, and I think all that is, yes,

931
00:42:08,519 --> 00:42:11,519
a by product of certainly how we've seen the landscape

932
00:42:11,559 --> 00:42:14,079
chams with some of the money that's being paid out.

933
00:42:14,519 --> 00:42:16,159
And then I world, all.

934
00:42:16,119 --> 00:42:18,639
Speaker 3: Right, there is I got Chris Low on three, senior

935
00:42:18,679 --> 00:42:19,760
college football reporter.

936
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 2: See Low. We appreciate the time as always, sir.

937
00:42:22,679 --> 00:42:25,320
Speaker 9: Yeah, Hey Jake, what would you and now have been

938
00:42:25,559 --> 00:42:28,079
when you got to l SU? It's been an il

939
00:42:28,639 --> 00:42:31,199
out the street? Much would you a pocket?

940
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:32,079
Speaker 5: Uh?

941
00:42:32,119 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 3: Maybe when I got here not a lot, But when

942
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,719
I left I think I would have done pretty well.

943
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:43,079
Speaker 2: Seelough, all right, good answer. No, we appreciated Chris.

944
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 9: All right, see you guys, take care.

945
00:42:45,159 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 3: All right, we'll take a break, wrap up our number

946
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,239
two when we come back here on OTV. Off the

947
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bench are you Go to Pelican roof dot com website

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for Pelican roofing. Go to the top right corner, click

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on community and nominate a veteran today for that free

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roof giveaway.

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Speaker 2: That they're doing.

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Speaker 3: Incredible giveaway that they're doing. They did it during Mother's

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Day as well. They're you know, consistently doing things like

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this in the community in Lafayette, in Baton Rouge, Boots

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on the ground in both. We always remind you about that,

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right because they are there, They are local in those communities,

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and I mean they'll support like so many different things

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within those communities, and of course they're going to be

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the best option for your roof as well. Look at

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the five star reviews on the homepage. Go there today.

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That is Pelican roof dot Com.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like Jake said, their boots on the ground office

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in Lafayette, offices in Baton Roofs. So when you have

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a project, they don't have to be driving back and forth.

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If you're building a new roof or you're having a

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roof repair, whatever it is. They will dedicate a project

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manager specifically to your job that's going to be fully

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focused on your roof and your roof only. So give

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them a call if you have a project. Gone go

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to their website. Check them out.

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Speaker 11: Pelicanroof dot Com, Tigers turn Talkers.

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Speaker 1: This is off the bench, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, wasn't making o TV look like twenty second segment here.

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But hey two like for us. Chris called us late.

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We called him for like four or five minutes. I

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don't know that's that's on Chris.

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Speaker 2: We caught it back and blaming this one on ce Low.

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Speaker 3: They'll stick with us, though, but I promised when we

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come back huge, our three, gigantic, huge hour three of

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the show, stay with us.

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Speaker 2: We love you off the bench.