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Speaker 2: Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Iron the Ball. They're
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Speaker 2: You got Troy coming in a little bit. Welcome to
Speaker 2: Wednesday's show, Henry, thanks for saving me today. Yep, we'll
Speaker 2: see if you do actually save me, because yesterday was
Speaker 2: a heck of a show for me reading on the board.
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Speaker 3: Hey.
Speaker 2: And by the way, Team Money, if you want to
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Speaker 2: point yesterday from yesterday apparently I was told that the
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Speaker 4: And there we go. Yeah, it's a beautiful day.
Speaker 2: It is a beautiful day. You know, we'll talk a
Speaker 2: lot of the things we talked about yesterday in case
Speaker 2: people missed it. But we're gonna have Chris rats Stadder.
Speaker 2: We expected him yesterday. We had him on the air
Speaker 2: and then the air went bunkers and in the first half,
Speaker 2: so we'll have him back. I had a lead official,
Speaker 2: I'm the head of lead officials across the country. And
Speaker 2: then in the second hour we're gonna have Bruce Pascal
Speaker 2: Pasco of the Arizona Day Star, who was at the
Speaker 2: press conference. You were at the press conference, right, Yeah.
Speaker 5: I was.
Speaker 2: I listed to some of it with with Tommy. We
Speaker 2: have both of them that Tommy's today, okay. So Tommy's
Speaker 2: you know, very realistic, He's he's how can I say this?
Speaker 2: You know, Brennan's kind of just tells you simple stuff.
Speaker 2: He's not flamboyant. Tommy's that too, just different, you know,
Speaker 2: he's not He's not gonna give you great quotes, but
Speaker 2: he does say some things.
Speaker 4: There's no sugarcoating in it. Yeah, he's up there. I
Speaker 4: mean they are what they are.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, and what are they.
Speaker 4: I think they're a potential D eight Final four team,
Speaker 4: and I think he believe that.
Speaker 2: I do too. Did you watch the Duke, Jame Henry
Speaker 2: asked me this thirty Duke Kentucky. I watched the did you?
Speaker 2: I watched pretty much the whole thing because I just
Speaker 2: wanted to see the good basketball. And at the beginning
Speaker 2: I picked Kentucky. Uh And I stuck with Kentucky one
Speaker 2: because I'm not sure about the quality of coach she
Speaker 2: Shires just you know, he's kind of presh this this
Speaker 2: is his third year. He's different than Tommy. I still
Speaker 2: don't know about Tommy, but I think Mark Pope's been around.
Speaker 2: He's doing well at every place he's been. The Kentucky
Speaker 2: program seems revitalized because kind of party.
Speaker 4: Is gone, you know, new face, new chapter. I think
Speaker 4: that was the best thing for.
Speaker 2: And he's good and he's good and he has some
Speaker 2: good players. You know, watching Kerr is a little painful,
Speaker 2: but because he's the same player, he's the same player
Speaker 2: and he loves that kind of uh controversy type of points.
Speaker 4: What did you see what he said about Cooper Flag
Speaker 4: before the game?
Speaker 2: I may have refreshed me.
Speaker 4: They asked him, what do you think about playing against
Speaker 4: the potential number one pick? It was like, oh, he
Speaker 4: has that locked up. Congratulations for him, like I don't care,
Speaker 4: you know, yeah, who cares? And that's who he was.
Speaker 2: You know. It's funny because you've just been on the
Speaker 2: scene a few years. I've covered it for a long
Speaker 2: time when I was watching him, and I maybe listened
Speaker 2: to that and just didn't pay attention. I'm thinking of
Speaker 2: all the people I've covered here extensively and not so extensively,
Speaker 2: he he is pretty at the top of the list
Speaker 2: in terms of being quotable, confident, pain in the neck,
Speaker 2: all of the three combined. The thing that Seleem was
Speaker 2: was pain in the neck, not very quotable. You know,
Speaker 2: everybody has their different things, but Kurt was like confident,
Speaker 2: pain in the neck, not as good as he thought
Speaker 2: he was all that.
Speaker 4: I've never seen a wildcat taunt like the fan the
Speaker 4: opposing fans and stuff like that. Kerk crees that used to. Yeah,
Speaker 4: in my opinion, he's probably one of the most hated
Speaker 4: players in the last twenty plus years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've we've seen some some of the fans here
Speaker 2: hate the other guys, right, the UCLA players, the Tatasis
Speaker 2: from California. I think it was the Hernandez kid from Stanford. Uh,
Speaker 2: just kind of the people they thought were being a
Speaker 2: little cocky. Arizona fans would have hated.
Speaker 4: Okur Oh, they would have made posters like, you know,
Speaker 4: they would have had everything going out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, our head bands, our cur is better than your
Speaker 2: cur Yeah you know, blah blah blah kurr. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: right right now. But he's a good story. He's a
Speaker 2: good story. You know. The thing about it too, he's
Speaker 2: a kid who believes in himself. I believe this obviously
Speaker 2: when you're a cocky, confident dude like he is. He
Speaker 2: sold himself at West Virginia and then he moved up
Speaker 2: to Kentucky and he's played a lot. Not that he started,
Speaker 2: but he's playing a lot.
Speaker 4: I mean, it doesn't matter if you're starting, if you're
Speaker 4: playing starters minutes nor and he's getting started as minutes.
Speaker 4: And he even takes a few heat checks every now
Speaker 4: and then even at Kentucky. Right, that's who he is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's well we all if you haven't learned
Speaker 2: by now, you are who you are, no matter what
Speaker 2: the situation, and he's that guy. They pulled off a
Speaker 2: nice little win last night. We have Duke coming in
Speaker 2: next week. I'll call it now. I think Arizona will
Speaker 2: beat him.
Speaker 1: Here.
Speaker 2: I would have said that anyway. That was the last
Speaker 2: night because of the crowd, because of who they are,
Speaker 2: they're not intimidated by Duke.
Speaker 4: You know what I didn't love is, even though he's
Speaker 4: a tremendous player, in the last twenty seconds, flag the
Speaker 4: ball twice the whole time time twice twice, and he
Speaker 4: flubbed it twice. No ball movement, there's no trying to
Speaker 4: get him open off of a screen. It's let's give
Speaker 4: him ball, everybody clear out of the way. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: that doesn't work.
Speaker 2: Well, it doesn't work. And you have a guy that's
Speaker 2: like that here. Yeah, they do, Caleb Love.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but the difference is they're having him play off
Speaker 4: the ball more this season.
Speaker 2: Yeah. They dried that last year, right, right, So we'll
Speaker 2: see what happens. I really like Arizona in that spot.
Speaker 2: We'll see what they do on Friday. You know there's
Speaker 2: still that Friday game. Okay, Well, welcome back, Troy. I'm
Speaker 2: trying to remember your name, Troy. Yeah, there we go.
Speaker 2: I just said, Troy, I forget you. Uh no, and
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Speaker 2: so you guys can call in today five two oh four, one,
Speaker 2: six seventy four forty. We'd love to have you call in.
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Speaker 4: You know, speaking about football real quick, Uh, just listening
Speaker 4: to that press conference, you notice how it's been the same. Yeah,
Speaker 4: the whole entire last three four weeks. Same same words,
Speaker 4: same message, same you know, we got to evaluate stuff, same.
Speaker 4: We'll had a great week of practice it's gonna turn around. Well,
Speaker 4: that's the funny thing I heard. Listen to the same thing.
Speaker 4: You listen to very mundane, very same same thing. And
Speaker 4: when he said that, you know, I love the way
Speaker 4: they're practicing or going after it. I can't remember what
Speaker 4: he said, and I'm thinking, you said this four weeks ago,
Speaker 4: So what's the difference. It's the same old stuff. I mean,
Speaker 4: change has got to happen at some point. And what's
Speaker 4: he gonna say? Right, he's not very good with words
Speaker 4: in terms of quotes or he tells you what's happening.
Speaker 2: But it's okay. I cooked you another great another another
Speaker 2: grilled cheese sandwich. What's tomorrow? You want another grilled cheese sandwich?
Speaker 2: You know what about peanut butter and jelly? Now I
Speaker 2: think I'm more comfortable with it. Can I get some
Speaker 2: tomatoes seat next time? Cheese sandwich? Yeah, it's mostly the
Speaker 2: same stuff. I'm glad I don't have to cover it
Speaker 2: on a day to day where you have to write
Speaker 2: stories and you know, come up with stuff because it's
Speaker 2: all the same stuff.
Speaker 4: And I think it's you're at the point with the
Speaker 4: fan base they're tired of hearing it. Yes, especially when
Speaker 4: you're three and six and the results are what they are.
Speaker 2: Let me let me ask you this, because we talked
Speaker 2: a little about this yesterday, how the fan base has
Speaker 2: stirred up. They deserve to be there, but it's I
Speaker 2: think it's still a few pockets, not a bunch of people.
Speaker 2: Because we hear, we hear the loud and typically that's
Speaker 2: what it is. The squeaky wheel gets a good degrease.
Speaker 2: So we have one hundred percent of people surveyed, how
Speaker 2: many are actually really upset? Really upset? Because you know,
Speaker 2: you have fans like me power a fan who Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna go watch a game, I don't really care.
Speaker 4: I think thirty five are upset. I would say about
Speaker 4: thirty something disappointed, and then the rest of them it's
Speaker 4: football who cares?
Speaker 2: Yeah, right right, No, I think that's a good thing.
Speaker 2: The thing about it is you're thirty five percent that
Speaker 2: the hate or the dislike or whatever are very loud.
Speaker 4: They're loud, But at the end of the day, what
Speaker 4: is the realism of it. You're talking about a head
Speaker 4: coach that just got hired. You're having a financial deficit
Speaker 4: within the athletic department, within the university that has a
Speaker 4: ten million dollar buyout, So how are you going to change? Yeah,
Speaker 4: and how are you going to change with with it
Speaker 4: looking good to the rest of the university, especially when
Speaker 4: you're in this stuff. You're going to take a call now?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we can. Thanks, Hello, We'll get him. Okay, cool? Good,
Speaker 2: you got a call real quick. I hope we get
Speaker 2: a lot of calls today after yesterday.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Great. Hey, you're on the year and I on the ball.
Speaker 2: What's your name?
Speaker 6: Brian?
Speaker 2: Hey, Brian, how are you? Brian?
Speaker 4: Pretty good?
Speaker 6: Pretty good. I'm just kind of wondering what you guys think.
Speaker 6: I'm going to the football game Friday night. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 6: a glutton, glutton for punishment. I guess, well, I wonder
Speaker 6: if we'll even have thirty thousand people there.
Speaker 2: That's funny you said that. Didn't we talk about this yesterday? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: So my guess my guestimate would be thirty thirty, No
Speaker 2: more than thirty realistically, no more than thirty, uh and
Speaker 2: maybe a tad below.
Speaker 4: What did you say to twenty seven?
Speaker 2: But Brian, this is what we were probably both gonna
Speaker 2: agree on. They're gonna announce forty something.
Speaker 4: Forty two thousand.
Speaker 6: Probably thou'reily gonna go by tickets sold.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right to know what's your what's your gifts, what's
Speaker 2: your guests?
Speaker 6: Thirty thousand?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you'll be one of them that you'll be one.
Speaker 4: I'll be one, and I'll be interested to see how
Speaker 4: many fans pollen. Let's say, if it's closed and you
Speaker 4: have a ticket after the end of the basketball game,
Speaker 4: if they're watching it at the tailgates, saying, you know what,
Speaker 4: let's go on in now the basketball game is over.
Speaker 4: If it's close, right, if that, if that helps the
Speaker 4: attendance at all, could be, could.
Speaker 6: Be, you know, I it's just it's very disappointing to
Speaker 6: watch what's going on. And and it's one of those
Speaker 6: things that like everybody talks about AYESU is the Bowl game.
Speaker 6: But that could be pretty ugly too. But but it's
Speaker 6: gonna have to hold out of the year and just
Speaker 6: see what he can do. I don't want him fired.
Speaker 6: I'd be the one thing. I think I'd be the biggest.
Speaker 5: Mistake perment thing.
Speaker 6: You couldn't afford to fire him anyway, So do any matter.
Speaker 6: I don't think you're going to find a booster who's
Speaker 6: gonna pay that kind of money to pay buy them out.
Speaker 2: No, no, I agree with you. You were in Tucson. Here
Speaker 2: here's the problem of Brian. And then let me if
Speaker 2: I can ask you some personal questions. You can say,
Speaker 2: I don't want to answer it, Brian, because you're you're
Speaker 2: a fan. You call in here often and you have
Speaker 2: some good thoughts. So you're a fan, right, What level
Speaker 2: of fan are you? I'm talking one to ten? One
Speaker 2: to ten? You care?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 6: I close to ten? Nine?
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, So I'll just have a host of question.
Speaker 2: Nine do you do you give to the program?
Speaker 6: I'm buying tickets, that's it.
Speaker 2: Okay, buying tickets. So you don't give any you don't
Speaker 2: help with the nil.
Speaker 6: No, I never will. For the fact that I because
Speaker 6: I'm old and I don't you know, I think these
Speaker 6: and I nothing wrong with the kids getting money, sure,
Speaker 6: but I think this whole NIL thing, the way they
Speaker 6: have it set up, is so messed up that I
Speaker 6: don't know if it can ever be directed. You know,
Speaker 6: they talk about, well, you know, having these people as
Speaker 6: employees of the university. Well, to me, they are employees
Speaker 6: of the university. If you're on a scholarship and you're
Speaker 6: getting money, you know, to go to school, and I
Speaker 6: just don't feel that, you know, I I have a
Speaker 6: hard time handling today's athletics, athletics knowing their basketball, football, whatever.
Speaker 2: Brian. I'm with you there, I'm with you there, you know.
Speaker 4: And I don't think it's a you know, I'm older thing.
Speaker 4: I've watched this for several years and now it's changed.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I'm twenty nine years old. I
Speaker 4: remember going to games as a kid, and yeah, it's
Speaker 4: a different vibe and it's a vibe that I personally
Speaker 4: don't like. But you know what it is, what it is,
Speaker 4: and you got to roll with the punches. And I
Speaker 4: think one thing you're going to see moving forward is
Speaker 4: potentially a salary cap. Yeah, you know, rather that be three,
Speaker 4: four or five years down the line.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, well don't forget that next year or two
Speaker 2: years that the twenty million dollars thing comes it comes
Speaker 2: into So, Brian, I don't know where you live, Bryan,
Speaker 2: but expect the UA athlete to live near your area
Speaker 2: or be your neighbors sometimes soon you know, can get
Speaker 2: me tickets, I get I have a barbecue. Yeah, you're
Speaker 2: going to say something.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you know, I just have a hard time
Speaker 6: with today's sports only for the fact that, okay, we
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Speaker 6: Roster of players we have right now in football. Okay,
Speaker 6: next year we're gonna have fifty different players on the roster.
Speaker 5: It's just it's just.
Speaker 6: Hard to take this team in like any that's any
Speaker 6: school about that. Every year the roster turns over and
Speaker 6: it's not like it used to be where guys were
Speaker 6: around two three years so you got to know them
Speaker 6: and and everything. And now we don't get.
Speaker 2: To right and right. So that's problem. Problem in the
Speaker 2: next Brian, that's the problem. But I've always had that problem. Uh,
Speaker 2: we're we're you're giving the money or you know, you
Speaker 2: fans are giving them money, but what do you know
Speaker 2: about the kids given given they don't make them available.
Speaker 4: And especially especially at the basketball level, it's gotten so
Speaker 4: bad at the basketball level and the football. At least
Speaker 4: this season they kept about eighty eighty five percent of
Speaker 4: the roster. But you know, after a season like this,
Speaker 4: you just never know what's going to be from one
Speaker 4: year to the next.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's just it's just difficult I think for
Speaker 6: I think for every fan you know, and I think
Speaker 6: one of the big problems when they joined the Big twelve.
Speaker 6: As much as we complained about the Pac twelve network
Speaker 6: at least like on Saturday nights they had midnight whatever,
Speaker 6: they had that midnight football show. We got to know
Speaker 6: players on other teams. I don't know anything about other
Speaker 6: players in this conference. And the season's almost over.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, unfortunately the Big twelve doesn't have Big
Speaker 4: twelve network. You know they have a Lawnhorn network back
Speaker 4: in the day, but maybe that's something moving forward.
Speaker 2: Hey, Brian, we gotta go. We gotta get out of
Speaker 2: here for commercials. Thanks Bryan for the call. Ok, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: we gotta go. We're gonna get ahold of Chris rest
Speaker 2: at her here on the other side.
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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to winding the ball here, I'll Fox
Speaker 2: Sports fourteen Cookie, I'm Steve Rivera, you're Troy Hutchison now
Speaker 2: and if on we have Chris dress dat Er, the
Speaker 2: NCAA men's basketball coordinator. Chris, how are you today compared
Speaker 2: to yesterday?
Speaker 5: Still doing good? One day closer to hitting the road?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, tell me how often are
Speaker 2: you on the road. Are you on the road all
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Speaker 5: Yeah? Quite a bit. Quite a bit, Steve. I'll go.
Speaker 5: You know, it kind of depends on the trip. I
Speaker 5: kind of plan it out based on mostly, you know,
Speaker 5: the referees that I want to watch. Yeah, and so
Speaker 5: I'll plan out a trip and I'll go for I
Speaker 5: don't know, anywhere from five to nine or ten days
Speaker 5: and then come back for three or four and then
Speaker 5: head back out.
Speaker 2: So last night, we all know there was a huge
Speaker 2: game out in Atlanta with Duke and Kentucky. Do you
Speaker 2: have do you have the skinning the game with that
Speaker 2: in terms of putting the the people or the principals
Speaker 2: involved with that, who does?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Those two games are not my assignment. I signed
Speaker 5: the Hall of Fame series games. Okay, So like tomorrow
Speaker 5: night at Talking Stick is my game, So I'll be
Speaker 5: up there for that.
Speaker 2: Okay. So how many are there more of you than
Speaker 2: we know?
Speaker 5: No, it's just me.
Speaker 2: There's just you. So, but you have those farmed out
Speaker 2: or how does that work?
Speaker 5: No, the the that's good question. The tournament directors will okay, yeah,
Speaker 5: that's who they'll They'll get to assign game. So a
Speaker 5: lot of the times it's the coordinator of officials for
Speaker 5: the conferences or the consortions. Now they'll they'll get hooked
Speaker 5: up with ESPN or you know, whether that group to
Speaker 5: put on that game last night, and and so that's
Speaker 5: how they assign referees. And then a lot of times
Speaker 5: in those games, uh, you know the you know, so
Speaker 5: you got interconference, right, so you'll you'll have the coordinators
Speaker 5: from you know, there was the SEC and the a
Speaker 5: SEC will communicate and make sure they get the right
Speaker 5: guys on that on that game. And then the same
Speaker 5: thing with going prior to the Big ten and a
Speaker 5: Big twelve.
Speaker 2: So how many games do you kind of direct that's
Speaker 2: the right word.
Speaker 5: Well, I assigned probably I think maybe twenty nine games
Speaker 5: in the Hall of Fame series. Okay, okay, and all
Speaker 5: those happened in November December, right, you know, and and
Speaker 5: a lot of like like at the end of this trip.
Speaker 5: Next week, I'll be in Connecticut at the Mohigan Sun
Speaker 5: Casino because there's a MTE there for three days. So
Speaker 5: I'll go there and hunker down for three days and watch,
Speaker 5: you know, a bunch of referees that I assigned. So
Speaker 5: you know, my assignments are intentional. You know, some young
Speaker 5: rest that I want to see mixed. It made a
Speaker 5: couple of veterans and sit back and watch.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So a couple of a couple of questions. One
Speaker 4: when you are like looking at the officials and assigned
Speaker 4: to a certain official, what is it exactly you're looking
Speaker 4: for in terms of progress and just what are you
Speaker 4: keeping your eye on?
Speaker 15: Uh?
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's good. So like for last night, those two games,
Speaker 5: those veteran crews, those are al tournament guys, are Final
Speaker 5: four guys working that game. But I still watch. I
Speaker 5: want to see that there, how we are in our positioning,
Speaker 5: that they're working, the mechanics that they're We have a
Speaker 5: thing that's that's really important to me that you know,
Speaker 5: the fundamentals you know, in the system we work. So
Speaker 5: on each play, every referee has a responsibility depending on
Speaker 5: the ball and the players and that changes, you know,
Speaker 5: throughout that one half court set. So I want to
Speaker 5: be sure referees are looking at their matchup. They're supposed
Speaker 5: to be in the output whistles on plays that aren't theirs.
Speaker 2: Yeah really yeah, you.
Speaker 5: Know you don't want to fire one across the key
Speaker 5: when you know your partner stand are right there looking
Speaker 5: at it. So you know, we call that discipline, having
Speaker 5: whistle discipline, coverage discipline. I watched for that, and then
Speaker 5: I just kind of watch how they managed the game
Speaker 5: and go up and down. And last night's game were
Speaker 5: really good. I thought, really well played and really well officiated.
Speaker 4: And then a lot of people, obviously not only coaches
Speaker 4: and fans are are tough on officials, but what they
Speaker 4: don't understand. I was looking at a schedule for officiating
Speaker 4: crew and whatnot. They are traveling NonStop. What can you
Speaker 4: just share the life of an official during the college
Speaker 4: basketball season.
Speaker 5: I tell you the life. There's a four o'clock wake up,
Speaker 5: get to the airport, get your play, first flight. I
Speaker 5: got to have the first flight out because you know,
Speaker 5: haven't forbid something goes wrong. Get you where you're going,
Speaker 5: grab a by t eat, close the shade, and.
Speaker 2: Grab a nap. Yeah yeah, but yeah, get up.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Sorry, it was It was a life that you chose,
Speaker 2: and it's a very enjoyable one. Is that one of
Speaker 2: the reasons why you got out because of the travel? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 5: The funny thing is is I do pretty much as
Speaker 5: much traveling as I didn't, right. The only difference is
Speaker 5: is I don't have to take that first flight out,
Speaker 5: you know, and at the point doesn't go and I
Speaker 5: don't make it.
Speaker 6: Oh well.
Speaker 5: They're still going to play the game. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 5: you know, so that's the difference. But uh, you know,
Speaker 5: and we talk about that though, you know, we talk
Speaker 5: more and more. We've always talked about, you know, taking
Speaker 5: care of your body physically. You got to get your
Speaker 5: rest and you got to eat right, you know, and
Speaker 5: these types of things, but we also talked about you know,
Speaker 5: mental health, you know, making sure you're fresh, and you
Speaker 5: got to be able to unplug for a day or
Speaker 5: two at a time, you know, and then come back,
Speaker 5: you know, recharge your batteries. That's really important, especially January February,
Speaker 5: I know. And the thing is, and here's the rub, though,
Speaker 5: is we get paid by the game.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, referees. So so the more games you work, the
Speaker 5: more money you make. Right, so when you're off, you
Speaker 5: aren't gonna make any money. My job, you know, I'm
Speaker 5: a salary so matter.
Speaker 16: Yea.
Speaker 2: So there's that, you know, right right right. Let me
Speaker 2: ask you, what are your thoughts on today's world of
Speaker 2: instant replay or going back to the film to see
Speaker 2: if you made a right call. Back in the day,
Speaker 2: we didn't do that. We just kind of went with it.
Speaker 2: Now now in baseball, with everything, it's just you know, well,
Speaker 2: you know, here we go go to the monitor.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, there's there's good and bad. I believe because
Speaker 5: it was fun back in the day. Dude, it was
Speaker 5: you know, we had the guidelines and you know whatnot.
Speaker 5: But on a Thursday night in Court Vallas when they're
Speaker 5: playing Wazoo, there's you know, nobody was watching. It wasn't
Speaker 5: the game of the week, right, you know, in the past,
Speaker 5: so it didn't really matter as long as we were
Speaker 5: consistent and we were calling it, you know, on both
Speaker 5: ends of the floor. Coach has never said a word,
Speaker 5: you know, so it was really cool. But now there's
Speaker 5: so many guidelines and and like you say, every game
Speaker 5: is on TV, and you know, you know, we thought
Speaker 5: you know that, you know, it's the fishbowl. You know,
Speaker 5: it's just so much scrutiny that you got to get
Speaker 5: them right.
Speaker 2: So I was told, I guess earlier this week that
Speaker 2: you were on a conference call with a bunch of
Speaker 2: writers like like me and enjoy here. What was the
Speaker 2: message and did they go to you or you going
Speaker 2: to them?
Speaker 16: They reached out to me.
Speaker 5: I don't know, if you know, Stu student around it
Speaker 5: reached out and I was happy to do.
Speaker 2: What they kind of want. They wanted to get a work.
Speaker 2: Was it a story, was it a what was the reason?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 17: You know what.
Speaker 5: They just let me talk for a little bit and
Speaker 5: and I kind of talked to them about the same
Speaker 5: thing I mentioned with you guys a little bit, kind
Speaker 5: of my philosophy about officiating. You know that that I'm
Speaker 5: not a I'm not a gotcha I was never a
Speaker 5: gotcha referee, and I'm not a gotcha supervisor. I mean,
Speaker 5: I'm not running up and down the floor going oh yeah,
Speaker 5: got you You know.
Speaker 9: What I mean.
Speaker 5: You know, let's get the obvious. Let's get the obvious
Speaker 5: and and look, I you know, I understand it's about
Speaker 5: right and wrong at the end of the day, But
Speaker 5: but I don't we'll get to the play. I'm more
Speaker 5: worried about working as a crew, sticking to the fundamentals,
Speaker 5: working the mechanics, because if you're in the right place
Speaker 5: at the right time, I'm looking at the right thing,
Speaker 5: we got a pretty good chance of getting it right.
Speaker 5: So I don't. I don't sit there and overanalyze every
Speaker 5: little call. I just don't.
Speaker 2: Sure sure the one thing that happens, the one thing
Speaker 2: that I think that happens a lot. At least it's
Speaker 2: and maybe maybe a lot a lot anymore. But the
Speaker 2: anticipation call, I'm sure you hear that. You but your
Speaker 2: reaction it seems like you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 5: You got I've lived it.
Speaker 2: So how do you how do you fix it? Or
Speaker 2: you can't fix it. It's just.
Speaker 5: Well, there's such a thing as an inadvertent whistle. I
Speaker 5: remember a game I was an a issue and I'm
Speaker 5: resn't and and we are kind of half court and
Speaker 5: the guard was putting pressure, you know, on the ball handler,
Speaker 5: and something happened recent and I just cracked my whistle
Speaker 5: and it's it did not happen the way, you know.
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, here comes, so I hit the
Speaker 5: whistle and it just didn't happen. And I turned around,
Speaker 5: I looked at both coaches out of my bad introvert,
Speaker 5: and I grabbed the ball. We put it back and
Speaker 5: play just kept going.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, good for you, for you.
Speaker 5: But there's other times where you just you just got
Speaker 5: to eat.
Speaker 2: It, you know, yeah, and just want to say sorry,
Speaker 2: apologies or whatever.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you get over there, you get on front of
Speaker 5: the coach and said, dude, that was not good. Yeah right,
Speaker 5: let me ask you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you know they're thinking every play is crucial
Speaker 2: to them. Let me I don't know if I asked
Speaker 2: your school field this. But when you're doing your job
Speaker 2: and you're running back and forth and you're covering a
Speaker 2: game like last night's and some of ariss on those games,
Speaker 2: like you see other big games, and you're you're watching
Speaker 2: your you know, your job is to officiate. But there's
Speaker 2: a time maybe or two or four when you're watching uh,
Speaker 2: Mike bib play or some guy playing and he says,
Speaker 2: hold in your head, say, holy crap, look at that
Speaker 2: play or how did that? How do he do that?
Speaker 5: Oh? Oh bro, that's oh, that's the part of it.
Speaker 5: That's a great part of the game. I mean, when
Speaker 5: you're doing your job right, we're you know, we're ruber focused.
Speaker 5: But when a tremendously bloody player.
Speaker 6: Are good dunk or things like that, Oh.
Speaker 5: We're running down the poort looking at each other, our
Speaker 5: eyes get all either like wow, and we just keep
Speaker 5: them they just keep resting.
Speaker 2: Oh oh no.
Speaker 5: If you're not enjoying that, then you're missing the you know,
Speaker 5: you're missing the boat. That's remember Dan get Zurich.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, the la oh.
Speaker 5: He dunked the ball harder than anybody I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 5: Great, I mean it was incredible. So he would dunk
Speaker 5: cook me and I remember him was a cow and
Speaker 5: ad Ran Delkourt look at our partner and we both
Speaker 5: would just just in awe and enjoyed the moment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, back in the late eighties, early nineties, I
Speaker 2: think it was.
Speaker 4: And you know what that that brings me to my
Speaker 4: question is you know, talking about the moment, talking about
Speaker 4: the player, but the moment of a game, in that
Speaker 4: big time atmosphere, how hard is it not to get
Speaker 4: caught up in the moment? I know fans sometimes talk
Speaker 4: about that where they feel like an official gets caught
Speaker 4: up in the moment of the game. The crowd's going wild,
Speaker 4: so you let some things slip that you don't see.
Speaker 4: But how hard is it not to get caught up
Speaker 4: in a moment.
Speaker 5: Of the game, you know, when you're really focused and
Speaker 5: this takes time, by the way, I mean, this is experience.
Speaker 5: That's why you don't throw, you know, a first year
Speaker 5: referee into Arizona UCLA, you know, because they're not ready
Speaker 5: for it.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 5: So, but but you you just build those muscles and
Speaker 5: you learn to concentrate. The key is just having a
Speaker 5: level of concentration and you're so focused and you're so
Speaker 5: into it that you really don't hear the noise. Now
Speaker 5: when there's twenty thousand people and they're screaming in the places, rocking,
Speaker 5: of course you're here. But again that I enjoyed that.
Speaker 5: Whether I was on the you know, the yeah or
Speaker 5: the boo side of it, it was still It's just
Speaker 5: part of the game, and I enjoyed it. So we
Speaker 5: all enjoyed that.
Speaker 2: So you've been doing this a long time. I've covered
Speaker 2: a lot of games over my time. The thing that
Speaker 2: I noticed, and this might be funny to you, because
Speaker 2: it's kind of funny to me, But the more I
Speaker 2: watch the games and more I wantch the refs. You
Speaker 2: dudes are no longer heavy and you guys are in shape?
Speaker 2: Is that true? I mean, you guys you don't have
Speaker 2: your guns and you've got your uniforms, and now you
Speaker 2: guys are less unless probby we're at hockey.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, no, there there are more and more flat
Speaker 5: bellies in today's industry. It's it's a different thing, man,
Speaker 5: I'm telling you. You know, like back in the day,
Speaker 5: there were no cams and you just nobody knew about
Speaker 5: officiating and it was just yeah, just kind of you
Speaker 5: know tex athletes, you know. But now kids tune into
Speaker 5: this so early. And and the physical skill set and
Speaker 5: and look, when we do evaluations, I am four regional advisors.
Speaker 5: They work for me or with me, and we evaluate
Speaker 5: referees live in in UH and on video. And so
Speaker 5: the first the first category that we that we grade
Speaker 5: him on or just evaluate is physical skill set. So
Speaker 5: how do you look in your uniform? Are you athletic?
Speaker 5: Do you run athletically? You know? Are you given an
Speaker 5: effort every play? So we look for those things. Absolutely,
Speaker 5: it's and look at the app So, I mean, these
Speaker 5: kids are big, the stronger, faster than they were ten
Speaker 5: years ago, you know, twenty for sure. But there's just
Speaker 5: you know these kids last night, that kid for Duke,
Speaker 5: I mean, dang six ten, I.
Speaker 2: Mean come on, right. And plus I think your second
Speaker 2: and probably think on your list is you have to
Speaker 2: be really headstrong, h don't let things get to you
Speaker 2: because you have fans. It you just have to be
Speaker 2: a I don't know what the word is but not
Speaker 2: a pain in the neck because you have to you
Speaker 2: dealing with pain the necks, you get to be very sturdy,
Speaker 2: like a wall just yet.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, mental strength, mental toughness. You know, we
Speaker 5: brought a sports psychologist in to speak to the referees
Speaker 5: at the regional clinics this year, the preseason regional clinics.
Speaker 5: So I I really like this guy, doctor Joel Fish.
Speaker 5: So he talked about mental toughness. He shared a story
Speaker 5: about Kobe who were his first year the NBA top
Speaker 5: Mental toughness was a subody, talk trash. He talked trash back,
Speaker 5: but by the end of his career, mental toughness to
Speaker 5: him is there's nobody in this arena that that is
Speaker 5: going to get into his head and make him doubt
Speaker 5: himself or you know, anything along those lines. And I go,
Speaker 5: that's mental toughness. So it's a level of concentration, a
Speaker 5: level of focus, and you develop those skills and the
Speaker 5: mental muscles right to have that mental toughness. That that
Speaker 5: takes time for sure.
Speaker 2: So I got a quick one, real quickly at Troy.
Speaker 2: So somebody sent me a note earlier before you came
Speaker 2: on ass rush at or what the toughest thing about
Speaker 2: reving games at the jccverneties.
Speaker 5: Dude, that's where I've made my bones. Man the thirty
Speaker 5: three and over Sunday mornings does the Jay you know,
Speaker 5: I tell you the toughest thing. Look, you can call plays,
Speaker 5: that's right, it's it's it's I don't know if getting.
Speaker 6: Along is the right word.
Speaker 5: But managing those games. Anytime you're talking about a rect league,
Speaker 5: you learn survival. That's what I used to call it.
Speaker 5: You just learn how to survive and manage and get
Speaker 5: your way through a game, and you work good. That's what.
Speaker 5: That's what those games are out those the best teaching tools.
Speaker 5: And here's just you know, just an observation. The younger
Speaker 5: referees don't do that as much as we did. You know,
Speaker 5: we went and made our twenty bucks a game, you know,
Speaker 5: but that's how we honed our skills or learned all
Speaker 5: of these things. It's just reps. You know, it's experienced.
Speaker 5: The more plays you see, the more conversations you have,
Speaker 5: the more situations you're in. Nowadays, everything is you know,
Speaker 5: it's organized, you know so and not that that's not good,
Speaker 5: but you know, we'd referee poo, you know, four or
Speaker 5: five games a day, just surviving. Yeah, the jay. I know,
Speaker 5: one guy, one guy, he was upset about a call
Speaker 5: or something. It consists. H go, I go, it's the
Speaker 5: Evan flow of the game, Billy, and he goes, all right,
Speaker 5: now it's Evan know. Okay, it was pretty good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred twenty bucks a day. I guess back
Speaker 2: in the day it was pretty good. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Hey, twenty five started nine bucks. Nine dollars is what
Speaker 5: I used to get the river around.
Speaker 2: Well, now now you're flying all over the world. That's cool.
Speaker 5: Man. I'm not bad.
Speaker 2: Huh no, not bad.
Speaker 4: So I'm wondering, especially back in the Pac ten day,
Speaker 4: with all those coaches like lud Olsen and Gravels, Montgomery
Speaker 4: and so on and so forth, what is your favorite
Speaker 4: story involving a coach during the game that you could
Speaker 4: share on air, some appropriate funny story.
Speaker 2: You know, Black.
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Speaker 5: Uh, I've got I've got it. Quite a funny Montgomery.
Speaker 5: Montgomery was the peach. So I learned one look funny,
Speaker 5: then one I learned a really valuable lesson. So it
Speaker 5: was he was when he was that uh Stamford. And
Speaker 5: so now we got a game of cow and I'm
Speaker 5: kind of the younger referee on the crew. I think
Speaker 5: Tommy Nunez, you guys, was working the game and he
Speaker 5: was a veteran. So we're running up and down and
Speaker 5: Mike and I could call to Tommy head and he's
Speaker 5: yelling at Tommy across the floor, and so I run
Speaker 5: by him and I'm thinking, I'm going to help out
Speaker 5: my partner.
Speaker 6: I go, oh, no, he.
Speaker 5: Got that right, Mike, And he stopped and turned out
Speaker 5: a dime and goes, who the hell asked you?
Speaker 2: And who are you? And who are you?
Speaker 5: For the next five minutes, man up and man, he
Speaker 5: just wants to know every time, and I going, okay,
Speaker 5: let's have learned keep your mouth shut right.
Speaker 2: Well, thanks a bunch, Thanks a bunch, mister Chris.
Speaker 5: Appreciate it.
Speaker 2: I appreciate Good luck in the road. I'll see you
Speaker 2: at the game soon, I think, right, I'm sure you will.
Speaker 5: I'll be around. Okay, I'll come to that great Thank you,
Speaker 5: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Give Ustress Statter one of the great refs. We saw
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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to my on the Ball here on
Speaker 2: Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera, your Troy Hutcheson
Speaker 2: with got Henry with us. That was a lot of
Speaker 2: fun with mister rash Dadder. Yeah, yeah, a lot of
Speaker 2: knowledge there, Yeah, cool dude too. Okay, anybody want to call,
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Speaker 2: about yesterday's called you came in. I don't think that
Speaker 2: many people heard it, if anybody, but about Noah. Remember
Speaker 2: you said that Noah was not the one that fault here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, And I think that's pretty clear.
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Speaker 4: I don't think any of the fan bases blaming now
Speaker 4: on more than the coaching staff. And you know, a
Speaker 4: little nugget from today's press conference. You know, we talked
Speaker 4: about Jacory Krossky marrit a couple times on this radio show,
Speaker 4: if he's going to play or not. Yeah, the eligibility issue, right,
Speaker 4: Brennan today said I don't think that makes sense for
Speaker 4: him to play the rest of the season. But that's
Speaker 4: all he said, saying basically, no, he isn't playing the
Speaker 4: rest of the.
Speaker 2: Season, right. I wonder if they would give him if
Speaker 2: if whatever needs to be.
Speaker 4: Cleared up, it's cleared at the end, right, and then
Speaker 4: he's able of them another year.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but yeah, but would you play it here?
Speaker 4: Who knows? Yeah? You know it's a running back that's
Speaker 4: been at what now three different schools.
Speaker 2: So well, if you're a player that wants to play,
Speaker 2: why not play? Right? If you're not good enough for
Speaker 2: the next level and you need another year, why not
Speaker 2: do it? What? How old is what's his name? From Utah? Quarterback?
Speaker 4: Quarter from Utah? Oh oh, you're talking about Cam Rising.
Speaker 2: Yeah's like thirty, he's got your beer, twenty three, twenty four. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's asking for sixth year, right, six seventh year? But
Speaker 2: is I think, yeah, so one of those Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean you have at Miami that's on year number ten.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember I saw that story. Yeah, And if
Speaker 2: you want to play and you can't play at the
Speaker 2: next level, and you're gonna get some nil. But I
Speaker 2: think that probably something like Utah would probably say, yeah,
Speaker 2: maybe not, you know, time to move on. Yeah, we
Speaker 2: love you.
Speaker 4: But but you know what, it's hysterical when you get
Speaker 4: and I'm sure you get asked this from Vans too,
Speaker 4: is how many years of eligibility does this guy have left?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 4: Well, technically three? But who the heck?
Speaker 2: Well did you see that the kid from New Mexico
Speaker 2: who's now the quarterback at at Vanderbilt. He was a
Speaker 2: two year player at a junior college in New Mexico,
Speaker 2: went to play at New Mexico State, brought him back
Speaker 2: to pretty prominence. Decided to move with this coach to
Speaker 2: kill to Vanderbilt, has turned them that program around this
Speaker 2: one year. Now he's gonna fight there. He's fighting. He's
Speaker 2: soon in the NCAA for for more years because the
Speaker 2: junior college kids are being treated differently than Division one,
Speaker 2: so he wants a couple more years to play.
Speaker 4: He'll probably win it. I mean, it's just how it's
Speaker 4: been going.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they'll win, right, I mean, what, you haven't
Speaker 2: taken any losses, I don't think. Yeah, hey, you're on
Speaker 2: the air and on the ball. Who's this.
Speaker 16: Hello, Steve?
Speaker 2: Yes? Howard? Yeah, how are you doing fine? Howard? Are
Speaker 2: you gonna see us tomorrow at the casino?
Speaker 5: I don't know, we'll see I probably should. I want
Speaker 5: to sort of go.
Speaker 16: Now I know Vic. It's only me and Vic.
Speaker 5: Did go to everything now that I know?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, cause you guys, you guys went to our
Speaker 2: to our dinner thing at at the restaurant.
Speaker 16: No, I didn't go to the dinner.
Speaker 2: No, no, you saw you went to the one on
Speaker 2: northwest side to uh one of the first ones.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I never saw Vic there.
Speaker 16: Where I saw Vic was at the card shop and
Speaker 16: then then I saw him again at the of the casino.
Speaker 2: Okay, I thought he was at high five to two,
Speaker 2: so okay, my bad.
Speaker 16: Yeah, well he probably was, he said he was, but
Speaker 16: I just we didn't worked there at the same time.
Speaker 2: Okay, what's up?
Speaker 16: Anyway, I'm excited about the Wildcats basketball team. You know,
Speaker 16: they're persona do on Grada the football team and because
Speaker 16: I'm never a football guy no matter, even if they're good.
Speaker 16: And then of course I'm excited about the Suns, even
Speaker 16: even though we have a setback with the with the
Speaker 16: Slim Reaper for two weeks, where I think we have
Speaker 16: plenty of.
Speaker 5: A deep bench up where we're gonna still do good.
Speaker 2: So what are they seven?
Speaker 5: They're nine and two now, and then.
Speaker 16: They have a back to back tonight they're playing the Kings,
Speaker 16: and if I could go down and casino, I put
Speaker 16: some money on them. They're seven and a half point
Speaker 16: undertok I.
Speaker 4: Mean that's probably you know, back to back and they
Speaker 4: just played the Kings recently.
Speaker 16: Well, yeah, I get I get it, but I still
Speaker 16: don't buy them.
Speaker 5: I still don't buy it. They're not gonna be get
Speaker 5: beat by that much if they lose.
Speaker 2: I didn't realize, Howard, and you probably see this because
Speaker 2: I don't want the NBA all that much. But I
Speaker 2: do have a team, and of course it's it's Steve's
Speaker 2: Skurt team. They're very good. They're playing well well. I
Speaker 2: think they're eight and one. They beat They beat Dallas
Speaker 2: last night in a great game with Thompson coming back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, they're playing well defensively, and Steph Curry
Speaker 4: keeps on doing what he's doing. But you gotta wonder
Speaker 4: at a eventually in point of time, can this be
Speaker 4: enough for Golden State with Steph Curry playing at the
Speaker 4: high of a level at this age, you.
Speaker 16: Know, they don't have enough too young players.
Speaker 5: And you know that.
Speaker 16: What's his name Green is gonna probably have a meltdown
Speaker 16: at some point and he's just not good.
Speaker 5: And he's just not good anymore.
Speaker 16: Their last championship, daven said, they go, yeah, they won
Speaker 16: the championship, but Green didn't play good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we see.
Speaker 16: So he's done. He's really done this time.
Speaker 5: He plays defense.
Speaker 16: That's the only thing I think I like about Green.
Speaker 16: But they're not gonna get anything from him from anything.
Speaker 16: I guess that's all he has to do. But he
Speaker 16: can't score.
Speaker 5: Anything, he can't really assist.
Speaker 16: He's just gonna get worse.
Speaker 5: That's why.
Speaker 16: The same with Klay Thompson. You know that sometimes that
Speaker 16: dynasty is to end and there's been nails in it.
Speaker 5: They're not going anywhere. Okay, but oh and the last.
Speaker 16: Thing I wanted to see say, I didn't hear the conversation,
Speaker 16: but you said Carl Watson was on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Carl Watson was on.
Speaker 16: I know why you talked about horses because, believe me,
Speaker 16: we're real family with the Watson family. We remodeled their
Speaker 16: big house that they had. Ye, so, and I just
Speaker 16: know he's we I know just from knowing that he
Speaker 16: was into horses, right, that's why he had him on
Speaker 16: because it was the Breeders' Cup. Yeah, you went to
Speaker 16: It was funny to have Carl there because yeah, we
Speaker 16: know him pretty good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, good guy. Good got him and mister Webman. Okay,
Speaker 2: all right, thanks, we'll see you later. We still got
Speaker 2: time for another call too, We got we got about
Speaker 2: five minutes, six minutes.
Speaker 4: But you know what, even though Golden State I agree
Speaker 4: with Howard, I don't think they're going to last long
Speaker 4: term this season to make an NBA Finals or Western
Speaker 4: Conference Finals run. This is one of the more impressive
Speaker 4: coaching jobs in the NBA right now by Steve kirk Right.
Speaker 4: You don't have that legitimate number two. You have a
Speaker 4: bunch of guys that are young, like Kaminga and other
Speaker 4: guys that are coming together. But they're playing great defensive
Speaker 4: league and right now they're riding the offensive wave of
Speaker 4: Steph Curry. So it comes goes. But an impressive job
Speaker 4: by Steve kirk.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, no question. There's a lot of good teams
Speaker 2: in the West too.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean they went to Boston and beat Boston in
Speaker 2: the return game for what's his name, the one he
Speaker 2: didn't play for the Olympics, the one Tatum. Yeah, Tatum.
Speaker 2: I didn't even know the score until he looked at
Speaker 2: it yesterday, and they won that game. So we'll see
Speaker 2: what happens. But Oklahoma, there's a lot of good teams
Speaker 2: in the West, west of stacked viena maker case.
Speaker 4: I think about five teams in the West to win
Speaker 4: an NBA title and then the rest of them to
Speaker 4: at least get to a Western Conference finals.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't talk about the NBA much here, and
Speaker 2: I'm okay with it. But yeah, no, it's it's it's
Speaker 2: good to see, I mean, Steve doing really well. Okay,
Speaker 2: anybody want to call We got about four minutes of
Speaker 2: five to two oh four one sixty four forty. If
Speaker 2: you can't get in, you can call us during the
Speaker 2: breaking news segment or the final second, our second, third,
Speaker 2: third segment. Okay, we're okay right here. Okay, So anything
Speaker 2: else with the Brennan stories? Nothing today, I think, No.
Speaker 4: I mean again, it's the same old story of you know,
Speaker 4: we had a great week of practice, looking to change
Speaker 4: over some coaching stuff. We got to change some stuff
Speaker 4: here and and we've seen we're seeing the light and
Speaker 4: we're going to improve.
Speaker 2: Do I ask you this all the time? What I see?
Speaker 15: What's up with Justin Flow? He just doesn't play? Does
Speaker 15: he even special teams anymore? Does a special team? He
Speaker 15: still does on special teams he is And I think
Speaker 15: that's where you need to play. Honestly, I'd play low,
Speaker 15: probably on the edge as an edge rusher.
Speaker 4: Seaball hit ball. It's the biggest thing with him is
Speaker 4: he's athletic, he's strong, he had creates a motor, he's
Speaker 4: crazy a little, but he doesn't have discipline. And that's
Speaker 4: why they really can't play him out there on the
Speaker 4: field is he struggles in zone coverage. He can't he
Speaker 4: can't cover in zone and he'll hit a quarterback without
Speaker 4: the ball being in his hands games like against the
Speaker 4: USC last year. Yeah, he's just an undisciplined player that
Speaker 4: they've tried to reel in and yeah, they just haven't had.
Speaker 2: Since you are who you are, man, you are who
Speaker 2: you are.
Speaker 4: And this was the nineties. He could be an All American,
Speaker 4: an All American linebacker right in the first round.
Speaker 2: Right, He's he's impressive, liking and he's got that energy.
Speaker 2: But you know, there's you gotta still play the game.
Speaker 4: Wwe still got.
Speaker 2: To play the game, right, right, Yeah, we'll see what
Speaker 2: happens in the second hour. We're going to have Bruce
Speaker 2: Pasco talking a lot about basketball. He goes to Wisconsin
Speaker 2: this weekend, and then Duke of course here on the
Speaker 2: fifteenth fifteenth. Yeah, nope, twenty first, twenty first, twenty first,
Speaker 2: twenty first, that's right, No, twenty second, second, twenty second,
Speaker 2: fifteen is this weekend? Yeah, I'm like, dates are domestic
Speaker 2: we have the Al Tour and next Saturday, the twenty third,
Speaker 2: and the Duke game of the day before. So I'm
Speaker 2: going to get three hours of sleep and then go.
Speaker 4: To and don't forget about the football game. Football game
Speaker 4: on the road.
Speaker 2: See you? Is that on Saturday?
Speaker 4: It's on the Saturday? Oh never, what football game?
Speaker 16: Is that a night?
Speaker 2: Do we know yet?
Speaker 4: That's a day game?
Speaker 2: I believe. Oh okay, so I'll miss that. That's okay.
Speaker 2: That was like the Utah game last year. Remember when
Speaker 2: they played the Utah and they played did the tour
Speaker 2: and it rained a little. Yeah, so it was a
Speaker 2: good day for football. Okay, are we good? We have
Speaker 2: one another minute or two trying to get get like
Speaker 2: two minutes. Okay, anything from you, mister Henry. You're saving
Speaker 2: it all for breaking news, I guess, so yeah, yeah, okay, Okay.
Speaker 2: Volleyball we got, we got a lot of things coverage. Oh,
Speaker 2: women's basket he's got. I don't want to. I don't
Speaker 2: want to mess up his his breaking news stuff. Did
Speaker 2: you didn't go last night? Did you?
Speaker 16: I mean?
Speaker 4: Impress is showing by Arizona. They you know, played very
Speaker 4: well and he got to the w against say you
Speaker 4: know v team that's been a top twenty five team
Speaker 4: here and there over the last several years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I watched a little for press conference. She
Speaker 2: she she talks a lot about one question. She talks
Speaker 2: about not that, not that it's a bad thing, it says.
Speaker 2: She explains a lot.
Speaker 4: But she doesn't answer the question right away, and then
Speaker 4: circles back and then answers it.
Speaker 2: She explains and then tells.
Speaker 4: You yeah, exactly. So it's a long quote of wait
Speaker 4: a minute, where's the answer to what you know? But
Speaker 4: it's better than a yes.
Speaker 2: And no, which is great, right, no question, no question.
Speaker 2: And she's as popular as all hell. I guess she
Speaker 2: was a big turnout last night, which of course they
Speaker 2: always need. Okay, I think that'll do it, Henry. Let's
Speaker 2: go and come back with your breaking news.