WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:00.360 What if. 2 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:03.200 Welcome to whatever weight's Live with Sports Dot Connors. You 3 00:00:03.200 --> 00:00:05.519 want to spend more Rax Young Chris, Jeff Walker. We 4 00:00:05.599 --> 00:00:09.519 got Riley Damon what's Gordon's name again in the building? 5 00:00:09.599 --> 00:00:11.880 Shout out, Shout out Mark uh smashed like button be 6 00:00:13.000 --> 00:00:19.519 and share the street. Mark talking pistons. 7 00:00:19.600 --> 00:00:22.320 Yes, let's go. We might talk tigers that it depends 8 00:00:22.320 --> 00:00:22.920 on you chat. 9 00:00:23.160 --> 00:00:24.960 I don't want to talk tigers, but I think they 10 00:00:24.960 --> 00:00:26.679 did something deserving of talking about. 11 00:00:27.199 --> 00:00:28.839 So maybe towards end the show, we might sneak a 12 00:00:28.879 --> 00:00:30.920 some tigers. We'll see. It's up to you guys. There's 13 00:00:30.960 --> 00:00:33.840 a pull on there somewhere before any of that. 14 00:00:35.159 --> 00:00:39.079 UFC is back and we're talking about Connor McGregor versus 15 00:00:39.320 --> 00:00:42.280 Max Holloway, my favorite fighter, Max Hollway. Shout Spinney got 16 00:00:42.280 --> 00:00:45.399 me a plaque. Shout out out. Justin Gatgee versus Connor McGregor. 17 00:00:45.479 --> 00:00:47.200 This is the second match, by the way, they fought 18 00:00:47.200 --> 00:00:49.600 when they were younger. Connor went before, but this time 19 00:00:50.119 --> 00:00:53.159 Max is coming into as a fucking grown man, a grown. 20 00:00:52.920 --> 00:00:56.200 Man coming off of yeah, coming off of title appearances, 21 00:00:56.240 --> 00:01:00.200 you know, title fights, while Connor has been fighting Jake Jillenhall. 22 00:01:00.399 --> 00:01:04.120 So I think, like, like I said, everything in me 23 00:01:04.239 --> 00:01:07.680 says you know Max, Like, obviously he is much more active. 24 00:01:07.719 --> 00:01:10.920 He's you know, been in the ring. We're in the 25 00:01:10.959 --> 00:01:15.239 octagon recently. Connor hasn't. But Connor looked good, man. I'm 26 00:01:15.319 --> 00:01:17.640 just saying he had to, he had to juice. Still, 27 00:01:17.959 --> 00:01:20.439 he said he hasn't been fucking at camp and he's 28 00:01:20.480 --> 00:01:22.920 got something ready to go. So I don't know if 29 00:01:22.959 --> 00:01:26.239 he's gonna, yeah, hit him with his dick or something, 30 00:01:26.439 --> 00:01:31.239 but maybe he said he's been practicing celibacy in camp 31 00:01:31.280 --> 00:01:35.159 for the first time and he's going to explode his 32 00:01:35.359 --> 00:01:38.680 passion on the Maas Holloway, we did not promote sexual 33 00:01:38.719 --> 00:01:41.680 gratification anyway, or violence upon others in any way. Everything 34 00:01:41.680 --> 00:01:44.359 we say and do is in a satirical and comedic format. 35 00:01:44.680 --> 00:01:49.040 But listen, UFC was dead, the White House card revived it. 36 00:01:49.519 --> 00:01:55.040 You hit it with the like breathalyzer, you're the breathalyzer. Yeah, 37 00:01:55.079 --> 00:01:57.599 and now but now it's still you know, it's still down, 38 00:01:57.760 --> 00:02:00.959 it's still crawling, and they need Max and Connor to Yeah, 39 00:02:01.000 --> 00:02:01.920 I think it could happen. 40 00:02:01.959 --> 00:02:02.159 Man. 41 00:02:02.760 --> 00:02:05.280 The thing with the you know Max Holly versus Connor 42 00:02:05.400 --> 00:02:10.599 is my brain tells you Max Holloway. My heart's contelling 43 00:02:10.639 --> 00:02:13.479 me Connor, and I'm still going with Max's common sense 44 00:02:13.520 --> 00:02:15.919 would be Max Holloway. But the thing but is I'm 45 00:02:15.919 --> 00:02:18.680 not gonna discount Connor. If you ever see those videos online, 46 00:02:18.719 --> 00:02:20.680 these old dudes beating the fuck out of a young guy, 47 00:02:20.800 --> 00:02:23.360 like some young punk girls talking. Once you have hands, 48 00:02:23.599 --> 00:02:26.680 you always have hands. And the way Max fights, he's 49 00:02:26.719 --> 00:02:28.840 gonna keep Connor. Read it, He's allowed Condor the opportunity 50 00:02:28.840 --> 00:02:30.400 that's up to Connor's gonna land that left to knock 51 00:02:30.439 --> 00:02:33.039 him out maybe, but you know, if not, Max ha'd 52 00:02:33.080 --> 00:02:34.800 take him the deep waters and drawn because he's got 53 00:02:34.800 --> 00:02:36.400 some of the most some of the best stand up 54 00:02:36.439 --> 00:02:37.400 in the ULLC history. 55 00:02:37.199 --> 00:02:38.599 To be honest with you. Yeah, and one of the 56 00:02:38.639 --> 00:02:40.919 best chins too, and one of the best chins. But 57 00:02:41.039 --> 00:02:42.879 he did get knocked out to get knocked out, but 58 00:02:43.000 --> 00:02:47.120 we know how like like you get chinned once you 59 00:02:47.159 --> 00:02:49.840 get a little chinny. So we'll see if Max can 60 00:02:49.919 --> 00:02:52.240 keep it going. But that's what it is with Connor, 61 00:02:52.319 --> 00:02:54.599 Like he is a counter striker. When he was at 62 00:02:54.599 --> 00:02:56.520 his best, he was a counter striker. He wasn't trying 63 00:02:56.520 --> 00:02:58.280 to be a boxer. He was using more of the 64 00:02:58.319 --> 00:03:00.400 like Muay Thai aspect of mm A. 65 00:03:00.639 --> 00:03:03.199 Yeah, man, that's I think that's why I lost the dust. 66 00:03:03.240 --> 00:03:04.719 I mean obviously broke his leg, but that's part of it. 67 00:03:04.719 --> 00:03:06.280 Two like to be out. 68 00:03:06.360 --> 00:03:08.840 Yeah, went to the box he used to the karate ship. 69 00:03:08.879 --> 00:03:11.680 He's doing like crazy fucking like uppercuts and kicks. They 70 00:03:11.719 --> 00:03:15.080 tours a c l against Max. He still was doing 71 00:03:15.080 --> 00:03:17.000 that though. He just you gotta go back to MMA 72 00:03:17.080 --> 00:03:19.319 Connor not boxing conn absolutely if he wants a chance. 73 00:03:19.360 --> 00:03:20.919 If he wants a chance, you try to box with 74 00:03:20.960 --> 00:03:24.039 Max Holloway, you're gonna get drass be now is because 75 00:03:24.080 --> 00:03:26.840 you're a UFC is dead guy where you have If 76 00:03:26.960 --> 00:03:29.120 kinda loses, obviously, if Conna wins. 77 00:03:29.479 --> 00:03:31.520 If Connor wins, it's a big shot in the army. 78 00:03:31.560 --> 00:03:34.560 If Connor wins, the UFC's back. If Connor loses, I 79 00:03:34.599 --> 00:03:36.199 mean it will still be a great fight. I think 80 00:03:36.240 --> 00:03:39.240 it'll stay right where it is, you know, like like 81 00:03:39.280 --> 00:03:41.840 it's it's it's doing good right now. The White House 82 00:03:41.879 --> 00:03:44.840 card was good. This is gonna be a banger card. 83 00:03:44.919 --> 00:03:48.039 So if Max wins, it'll just be another banger card 84 00:03:48.080 --> 00:03:50.680 and that keeps the moment I'm going but if Connor wins, 85 00:03:50.680 --> 00:03:53.639 it's back, because then Connor will get a title fight. 86 00:03:54.599 --> 00:03:57.560 Jeff, I know you're opinionated guy. Sometimes you can't get 87 00:03:57.599 --> 00:03:58.159 you to shut up. 88 00:03:58.240 --> 00:04:01.840 That's time I speak on this one. How you feel. 89 00:04:03.280 --> 00:04:05.560 Doesn't stand a chance in this like he's gonna get 90 00:04:05.560 --> 00:04:08.280 picked apart from the start, like there, he didn't look 91 00:04:08.280 --> 00:04:12.360 good in neither of the Dustin Poria fights that he. 92 00:04:12.360 --> 00:04:13.719 Got absolutely mauled in. 93 00:04:13.919 --> 00:04:16.240 Yeah, and then we look at Max Holloway, he's fucked 94 00:04:16.360 --> 00:04:23.680 nothing but the best, like iliod Poria folk his like 95 00:04:23.920 --> 00:04:26.160 that's who, that's who his most recent fight is. And 96 00:04:26.240 --> 00:04:30.560 unless you're talking about Dustin Pourier, because he picked Dustin 97 00:04:30.600 --> 00:04:33.720 Poorier apart as well, old dust they're old. 98 00:04:33.839 --> 00:04:36.079 Probably shouldn't have steped there. In the UFC. The best 99 00:04:36.120 --> 00:04:38.439 part of the UFC is the unction right now because 100 00:04:38.439 --> 00:04:43.079 it's all of these old guys. You know, they need 101 00:04:43.120 --> 00:04:45.639 one guy to come in here and clean up all 102 00:04:45.680 --> 00:04:48.600 these old heads, all of them, like what John Jones did. 103 00:04:48.680 --> 00:04:51.199 When John Jones took over the UFC, he went into 104 00:04:51.199 --> 00:04:54.639 the light heavyweight division and cleaned up all the old heads, 105 00:04:54.720 --> 00:04:57.360 all of the legends of the sport. Took them down 106 00:04:57.360 --> 00:04:59.959 one by one. They need somebody to do that now, 107 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:04.839 and they can set up perfectly. Volke, Gait Chee, Holloway, McGregor. 108 00:05:04.920 --> 00:05:07.040 You put all those bodies on your belt, you are 109 00:05:07.120 --> 00:05:10.279 immediately a superstar. In the US, they don't allow people 110 00:05:10.279 --> 00:05:12.439 to do steroids no more like John Jones. That's true. 111 00:05:13.480 --> 00:05:15.560 You gotta be careful when doing that though, because if 112 00:05:15.560 --> 00:05:17.720 you do put someone who's not ready in front of 113 00:05:18.279 --> 00:05:20.000 Max Holloway, then he's going to. 114 00:05:20.040 --> 00:05:21.920 That's what we've seen, that's what's been happening. 115 00:05:22.439 --> 00:05:24.759 When Max Holloway lost a belt, they tried to make 116 00:05:24.839 --> 00:05:26.399 him the gate keeper of the featherweight division. 117 00:05:26.639 --> 00:05:28.279 You had to go through Max Holloway to get a 118 00:05:28.360 --> 00:05:33.240 chance that because Max is decapitating every single one of 119 00:05:33.240 --> 00:05:35.160 these dudes, and Volk had know one to fight. 120 00:05:35.319 --> 00:05:38.120 He couldn't pass voth Like, he couldn't figure like. And 121 00:05:38.160 --> 00:05:39.720 that's because what did Volke. 122 00:05:39.600 --> 00:05:43.600 Do the rest couple of times he makes second Max 123 00:05:43.639 --> 00:05:45.639 one on Fight Island, I'll fuck out die on the hill. 124 00:05:46.040 --> 00:05:49.920 I will that third fight that was really bad. That 125 00:05:49.959 --> 00:05:51.240 was really bad, that was insane. 126 00:05:51.879 --> 00:05:54.160 I think that Max is going to put on a 127 00:05:54.279 --> 00:05:57.560 clinic against Connor because I don't think especially if if 128 00:05:57.639 --> 00:06:01.439 if Connor doesn't somehow knock Max out with within the 129 00:06:01.480 --> 00:06:03.759 first round, within the first two and a half minutes 130 00:06:03.800 --> 00:06:06.839 of the first round, Yeah, then Connor is just gonna 131 00:06:06.839 --> 00:06:08.839 get picked apart for five rounds Max. I don't know 132 00:06:08.920 --> 00:06:10.399 why this is a five round fight. I don't know 133 00:06:10.399 --> 00:06:12.279 what Still, why Connor would even sign up for a 134 00:06:12.279 --> 00:06:12.879 five round fight. 135 00:06:13.120 --> 00:06:15.800 He's the main event. We'll get your main event. 136 00:06:16.480 --> 00:06:19.240 Yeah, but let's be let's be respectful. Connor though, he again, 137 00:06:19.319 --> 00:06:20.920 once you have hands, you have hands whatever. He got 138 00:06:20.920 --> 00:06:21.439 that left hand. 139 00:06:21.480 --> 00:06:23.519 But Max has been doing this at no, for sure. 140 00:06:23.839 --> 00:06:26.240 The first time they fought Max Holloway was only twenty 141 00:06:26.279 --> 00:06:26.759 one years old. 142 00:06:26.800 --> 00:06:28.439 He was baby like. 143 00:06:28.519 --> 00:06:31.360 Yeah, I'm taking Max to but I'm not discounting Connor. 144 00:06:31.399 --> 00:06:33.720 I'm salty, says dude. It's Spenny. It could be you. 145 00:06:33.920 --> 00:06:36.839 I've seen them social media posts. Definitely could be splenty 146 00:06:37.199 --> 00:06:41.160 Fuck No, dude, you're you're the you're I mean, they 147 00:06:41.240 --> 00:06:44.199 need one of these young like they're gonna try to 148 00:06:44.279 --> 00:06:49.240 let it be and now, Yeah, Paddy Pimblet is one 149 00:06:49.279 --> 00:06:51.000 of those guys gotta take I don't know any of 150 00:06:51.079 --> 00:06:53.839 these upper coming dogs that are gonna be like, it 151 00:06:53.879 --> 00:06:57.279 can't be that ugly as Mexican do it because he so. 152 00:06:58.079 --> 00:07:00.439 My boy lost to him, probably the ugliest first I've 153 00:07:00.480 --> 00:07:00.959 ever seen my. 154 00:07:01.399 --> 00:07:04.120 Boy Mondo actually my first ever podcast with the year 155 00:07:04.160 --> 00:07:06.399 as my very first ever in my basement live of 156 00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:09.800 Mondo and undo him on Dana White's Contender series and 157 00:07:09.920 --> 00:07:10.560 fucked them up. 158 00:07:10.720 --> 00:07:13.120 He's a dog, He's he's got strength. 159 00:07:13.560 --> 00:07:17.480 Yeah, Cousin, I think Walter Waite is the class where 160 00:07:17.519 --> 00:07:20.839 you can see one of those younger guys come in 161 00:07:20.879 --> 00:07:24.240 and just absolutely start to destroy all of the old 162 00:07:24.319 --> 00:07:27.000 heads somebody has. That's that's that's it. That's the only 163 00:07:27.040 --> 00:07:31.360 class that you Then again, what happened to him? He 164 00:07:31.360 --> 00:07:36.439 got He stepped in there with Justin and he didn't 165 00:07:36.720 --> 00:07:38.360 he didn't treat it as an mm A fight because 166 00:07:38.360 --> 00:07:41.040 he could have simply just mixed it up a lot 167 00:07:41.040 --> 00:07:42.879 more than what he did. He tried to stand I 168 00:07:42.920 --> 00:07:45.399 think sang with with Justin Gage and it didn't work 169 00:07:45.439 --> 00:07:46.160 and he got beat up. 170 00:07:46.199 --> 00:07:48.319 That's true. Armand I think Armand could be a guy. 171 00:07:49.120 --> 00:07:52.680 It's kind of but everyone's ducking him. Chill out on 172 00:07:53.160 --> 00:08:00.480 Raoul Roo. He's too young. He got asked me the 173 00:08:00.519 --> 00:08:02.279 last time I've seen him fight too, he doesn't have 174 00:08:02.639 --> 00:08:04.639 It was somebody good, though, I think I can't remember 175 00:08:04.639 --> 00:08:07.240 who was Raoul. It might have been Rob was Rob 176 00:08:07.319 --> 00:08:10.839 Font heavyweight veteran. I think you want to thought. I 177 00:08:10.879 --> 00:08:12.800 thought the last time I saw him fight he lost. 178 00:08:12.800 --> 00:08:13.240 I know that. 179 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:15.279 I don't know if it was his last fight, but 180 00:08:15.319 --> 00:08:16.959 the last time I saw him fight, I think I did. 181 00:08:17.399 --> 00:08:19.720 He got tapped out. If I'm thinking correctly, I come 182 00:08:19.759 --> 00:08:23.319 be wrong. I can't remember, but it was Christian Rodriguez 183 00:08:23.360 --> 00:08:27.199 Christian decision. Yeah, he beat he beat Rob fine, Yeah, okay, 184 00:08:27.199 --> 00:08:28.439 he rustled funck himwards the end. 185 00:08:28.519 --> 00:08:32.559 Yeah. Patty Pamlin's fighting this card. Ben watch Satany if 186 00:08:32.600 --> 00:08:34.559 you want. If you want to know the next generation, 187 00:08:34.600 --> 00:08:36.480 you still want to keep up with UFC, that's when 188 00:08:36.480 --> 00:08:37.039 you gotta watch. 189 00:08:37.039 --> 00:08:39.080 It's a comin event, not the comin But I believe 190 00:08:39.080 --> 00:08:41.480 he's older too. It's comine actually Satany. Yeah. 191 00:08:41.559 --> 00:08:43.120 Yeah, he's like he might be thirty, but he's still 192 00:08:43.120 --> 00:08:45.320 he's little younger in the sport. Patty in the sport. 193 00:08:45.639 --> 00:08:47.000 I think the tak a Patty in that one. 194 00:08:47.000 --> 00:08:49.440 By the way, I think the reason why the UFC 195 00:08:49.559 --> 00:08:52.440 has has obviously lost some of the notoriety or the 196 00:08:52.799 --> 00:08:54.759 kind of like it factor of what it was is 197 00:08:54.759 --> 00:08:58.639 because you don't have the heavyweight and light heavyweight division 198 00:08:58.799 --> 00:09:01.759 as stacked as it once was when you had John Jones, 199 00:09:01.759 --> 00:09:04.159 when you had the brock Less and all the star 200 00:09:04.279 --> 00:09:10.240 power within that division. Right now, it's for the heavyweight division. 201 00:09:10.519 --> 00:09:13.879 The one player, the one the one guy who can 202 00:09:13.879 --> 00:09:16.200 come in and just absolutely wreck havoc. 203 00:09:16.960 --> 00:09:22.399 Not you're automatically wrong, then Gable Stevenson, you're wrong. Josh 204 00:09:22.480 --> 00:09:26.679 Hokott is already doing it. Josh is already doing it. Jeff, 205 00:09:26.679 --> 00:09:28.759 don't be blind to it. Be honest to your assessment 206 00:09:28.799 --> 00:09:31.679 of the sport. Josh Hokott is the disruptor and he's 207 00:09:31.679 --> 00:09:32.279 doing it right now. 208 00:09:32.320 --> 00:09:33.080 I like it or not. 209 00:09:33.120 --> 00:09:34.840 You can hate him, but you gotta be honest about it. 210 00:09:34.879 --> 00:09:38.159 But stepped in there yet. He's going to in this card. 211 00:09:38.919 --> 00:09:40.639 So we're gonna we're gonna get to see him. 212 00:09:40.720 --> 00:09:43.240 Yeah, and everybody in the chat, you guys can chill out, 213 00:09:43.279 --> 00:09:45.320 all right, we got two hours. We're gonna talk about 214 00:09:45.320 --> 00:09:47.399 the pistons. Okay, we got a lot of pistons to 215 00:09:47.440 --> 00:09:49.879 get you know, we wanted to talk about this for 216 00:09:49.879 --> 00:09:52.600 a little bit because it's a big card. Get christ 217 00:09:53.600 --> 00:09:56.679 that's for me, monkey dance like, all right, we'll talk 218 00:09:56.759 --> 00:10:00.600 pistons by Hello, speaking guys fighting. 219 00:10:00.639 --> 00:10:03.399 Do you have the Shannon Sharp video I sent you? Yes, 220 00:10:03.480 --> 00:10:06.120 this is Shannon's Sharp. He had Chakor Stevenson, who's a 221 00:10:06.120 --> 00:10:09.639 boxer on I believe she fights. I could be wrong. 222 00:10:09.639 --> 00:10:11.159 I looked it up there while we're playing the video. 223 00:10:11.240 --> 00:10:13.000 Just run the video up the information all. 224 00:10:12.919 --> 00:10:14.679 Right, let me give me one second to find it 225 00:10:14.799 --> 00:10:17.240 in here because I know yourself. Work dude, it's in here, 226 00:10:17.279 --> 00:10:19.120 but it doesn't have a background, So give me one second. 227 00:10:19.120 --> 00:10:21.519 Don que with the super chat shout out don cue. 228 00:10:21.679 --> 00:10:24.279 He says, if Tiger's turning the buyers, who do you 229 00:10:24.320 --> 00:10:25.759 go get? Bullpen? 230 00:10:26.399 --> 00:10:26.600 Yeah? 231 00:10:26.720 --> 00:10:30.919 Bullpen? Bullpen? Bullpen? Can you get Mason Miller? Probably not? 232 00:10:30.960 --> 00:10:38.440 Probably not. I would do it. No, no, no, no, 233 00:10:41.159 --> 00:10:42.559 you got it. You got the video. Let's go. 234 00:10:43.879 --> 00:10:45.679 Don't know ship about boxing. 235 00:10:45.799 --> 00:10:46.919 They're being ignorant. 236 00:10:46.960 --> 00:10:49.320 That's it. Ignorant is something that should never come out 237 00:10:49.320 --> 00:10:51.679 of your mouth because you don't have a degree. I 238 00:10:51.840 --> 00:10:53.919 run circles around you in the class. I don't give 239 00:10:53.919 --> 00:10:58.480 a fuck up out of class. I've never told you 240 00:11:00.200 --> 00:11:04.600 do you finish high school or finished school. I'm not you. 241 00:11:05.200 --> 00:11:05.960 They didn't call me. 242 00:11:06.559 --> 00:11:09.759 You did ignorant when it comes to the spot. 243 00:11:09.559 --> 00:11:12.960 Box, you're ignorant about all care I'm not trying to 244 00:11:12.960 --> 00:11:14.879 be the smartest nigga about all sports. 245 00:11:15.039 --> 00:11:17.480 You're not the smartest box. I'm not the smartest box. 246 00:11:17.519 --> 00:11:19.759 I'm gonna wave you smarter box, and then you're fighter. 247 00:11:20.080 --> 00:11:25.600 You don't know who MyD is. You got upset because 248 00:11:25.639 --> 00:11:26.559 I don't think if. 249 00:11:26.480 --> 00:11:30.960 You're not really hearing me, steel boring. 250 00:11:31.200 --> 00:11:33.240 If you can knot got your female, you damn sure 251 00:11:33.320 --> 00:11:35.519 can't knock me out. Mickey Mouse bigger than you. I 252 00:11:35.559 --> 00:11:38.279 came up to class. He wasn't one thirty. I was 253 00:11:38.279 --> 00:11:40.759 one thirty five. He's on forty. I eat one hundred 254 00:11:40.759 --> 00:11:44.440 and forty pounds worth. You will beat your ass. You 255 00:11:44.440 --> 00:11:45.679 you don't eat you Spot. 256 00:11:47.639 --> 00:11:50.440 Grew threw a punch in your life like this. 257 00:11:50.639 --> 00:11:53.919 Going to you on me. You got a brother in 258 00:11:53.960 --> 00:11:55.840 the career. That ship will end. 259 00:11:56.120 --> 00:11:58.720 I promise you that you would yours. 260 00:11:58.840 --> 00:12:02.919 I fold your ass up like launch here. Ain't no 261 00:12:03.960 --> 00:12:06.600 how old are you? I don't know how, but I 262 00:12:07.320 --> 00:12:09.480 get your age. I have more money than you. I've 263 00:12:09.480 --> 00:12:11.240 been your age, you've never been. 264 00:12:16.879 --> 00:12:19.919 That's not Listen. I love uncle as much as the 265 00:12:20.000 --> 00:12:23.759 next guy. He was cook that was Now. I feel 266 00:12:23.759 --> 00:12:26.200 like that's one like group of people. You shouldn't talk 267 00:12:26.720 --> 00:12:29.480 like fighters. You cannot have a professional fighter on your 268 00:12:29.519 --> 00:12:32.840 show and say you beat them in a fight, unless 269 00:12:32.879 --> 00:12:35.639 you are yourself a professional fighter. 270 00:12:35.399 --> 00:12:38.360 Like I would maybe give Prime Ship Sharp a chance, 271 00:12:38.519 --> 00:12:41.120 maybe a chance, like a chance this. 272 00:12:41.240 --> 00:12:46.159 Version of him, he's gonna fucking punch your your head off, 273 00:12:46.720 --> 00:12:50.000 like he said, Shan's not touching him. You know, pep 274 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:55.200 ties makeup for fifty years age difference. Shannon's gonna skilled. 275 00:12:56.559 --> 00:12:59.200 She's gonna You're gonna throw one punch and catch two 276 00:12:59.200 --> 00:13:03.320 body shots and hook and be like what the like 277 00:13:03.519 --> 00:13:04.679 he is gonna be moving in. 278 00:13:04.679 --> 00:13:08.320 And out and picking him apart like it wouldn't. If 279 00:13:08.320 --> 00:13:11.440 I was Elon Musk, I'd make this fight happen. I 280 00:13:11.519 --> 00:13:13.639 call him both by. I got the money to make. 281 00:13:13.679 --> 00:13:15.440 I'm the richest man in the world, that's true, and 282 00:13:15.480 --> 00:13:16.519 I want to see this fight. 283 00:13:16.639 --> 00:13:21.039 That's that's crazy, like a billionaires, billionaires doing this used. 284 00:13:20.919 --> 00:13:26.360 To yeah, problem, that was the problem. To Shart's point, 285 00:13:26.960 --> 00:13:30.960 that fight will and in the decision because even though 286 00:13:31.759 --> 00:13:36.039 anybody can get knocked I love but anybody can get 287 00:13:36.080 --> 00:13:38.000 knocked out, bro, he is not. He is not that 288 00:13:38.120 --> 00:13:41.919 guy that goes out there and puts people out. 289 00:13:41.960 --> 00:13:44.440 Against seven year old Shannon Sharp, he's knocking him out. 290 00:13:44.519 --> 00:13:47.240 Yeah, I'm just saying, like I'm saying to Shannon starts 291 00:13:47.240 --> 00:13:47.679 point like. 292 00:13:49.279 --> 00:13:51.679 Point he's get knocked out, but he is. And even 293 00:13:51.720 --> 00:13:53.879 the way they get the boxing you're saying as a 294 00:13:53.919 --> 00:13:56.320 boxer is a little boring in the standpoint. 295 00:13:56.559 --> 00:13:59.480 If you don't like boxing the floor as in the 296 00:13:59.559 --> 00:14:04.200 defense and the point fight that you know he plays it, Yeah, 297 00:14:04.320 --> 00:14:06.639 then yeah, you're not gonna like his style because he 298 00:14:06.720 --> 00:14:08.159 doesn't he doesn't knock people out. 299 00:14:08.279 --> 00:14:10.120 Yeah yeah, I mean he still knock out Chanting. He 300 00:14:10.120 --> 00:14:12.200 would knock out Chanting, knocking out Sharp. 301 00:14:12.360 --> 00:14:16.480 Yeah, I'm man, I'm definitely going with Shakar. I listened 302 00:14:16.559 --> 00:14:19.200 Channing Sharp, love him. Yeah, he's not. He doesn't want 303 00:14:19.200 --> 00:14:23.159 those problem. There's just no chance. There is one more. Yeah, 304 00:14:23.159 --> 00:14:24.840 if you want more, we got the ramp yeh. 305 00:14:24.879 --> 00:14:28.240 Three canvas ok, yeah, three cam they want to get ready. 306 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:30.559 So this one could definitely be a publicity. It probably is. 307 00:14:30.559 --> 00:14:33.200 You could just play it Rampage wild and he is, 308 00:14:33.279 --> 00:14:36.679 by the way, since Kai retired for a step back. 309 00:14:37.639 --> 00:14:42.120 Sound this the actually talented people all respect Ky. He 310 00:14:42.159 --> 00:14:44.080 did a lot of amazing things. The talented people are 311 00:14:44.080 --> 00:14:46.519 actually taking over streaming. Like like I watch Ramping Rampage, 312 00:14:46.919 --> 00:14:53.639 Dean the Great you play according you know. 313 00:14:53.639 --> 00:14:54.600 I'm calling you out today. 314 00:14:55.639 --> 00:14:56.639 I'm calling you out this far. 315 00:14:57.399 --> 00:14:58.200 No, don't walk away. 316 00:14:59.080 --> 00:15:01.080 What do you mean what trouble for knocking his smile? 317 00:15:01.279 --> 00:15:01.679 I couldn't. 318 00:15:01.840 --> 00:15:18.080 So you're denying Wow, John Jones, Hey brother, but I'm 319 00:15:18.240 --> 00:15:18.919 back for you. 320 00:15:19.320 --> 00:15:20.440 This is just deny. 321 00:15:20.799 --> 00:15:21.799 I only take so much. 322 00:15:21.960 --> 00:15:23.799 This kid's actually funny that like that who kept sucking 323 00:15:23.799 --> 00:15:25.200 with me? 324 00:15:25.399 --> 00:15:27.600 No, No, I didn't throw him. Damn that motherfucker threw 325 00:15:27.639 --> 00:15:29.320 the ship out of me. Stop he was slipping. I 326 00:15:29.360 --> 00:15:31.799 was trying to stop him slipping. I was trying to 327 00:15:31.799 --> 00:15:32.320 stop him. 328 00:15:32.799 --> 00:15:34.159 That's the one I think is actually kind funny. I 329 00:15:34.159 --> 00:15:35.840 don't even know the kid's name, but I see his videos. 330 00:15:35.879 --> 00:15:38.279 He makes me laugh. Yep, But you think it's fake? 331 00:15:38.320 --> 00:15:41.519 Really probably fake? Yeah, looked like you said up twenty 332 00:15:41.519 --> 00:15:43.559 twenty six. Kids we grabbing people, throwing them mother wors 333 00:15:43.639 --> 00:15:44.120 like guns. 334 00:15:44.200 --> 00:15:44.679 That's true. 335 00:15:44.919 --> 00:15:47.120 I mean, no, even even if like it's still like 336 00:15:47.159 --> 00:15:48.759 you can press strigers like you know what I mean. 337 00:15:48.799 --> 00:15:50.399 Like so some type of that's. 338 00:15:50.639 --> 00:15:52.279 Yeah, a lot of people when they see those things 339 00:15:52.360 --> 00:15:54.799 and you see like the streamers out here doing those stuff, 340 00:15:54.840 --> 00:15:58.360 most of that stuff is it's a somewhat scripted to it, 341 00:15:58.720 --> 00:16:00.000 you know, like they know what's gonna happen. 342 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:02.120 They set up all that shit. All right, let's go 343 00:16:02.159 --> 00:16:04.679 to break, we'll come back. We're gonna talk pistons. Like, 344 00:16:04.840 --> 00:16:07.399 relax your crack heads. 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On Monday, 374 00:17:47.960 --> 00:17:50.759 Wednesday and Sunday they got five dollars shorts, so make 375 00:17:50.799 --> 00:17:56.640 sure you go pick some up. All day IPA from Founders. 376 00:17:57.000 --> 00:17:59.319 I don't know, but up though, welcome back to whatever 377 00:17:59.440 --> 00:18:01.160 it's live. It's that Colm I'm easy to must have 378 00:18:01.160 --> 00:18:04.599 been more rex On, Chris, Jeff Walker, Gotto, Damon here 379 00:18:04.599 --> 00:18:06.400 as well, smashed like Budon, be friends with a friend 380 00:18:06.400 --> 00:18:09.359 and share the dream. I should have put a poll 381 00:18:09.400 --> 00:18:13.039 on like wich Piston's topic you want, because we got 382 00:18:13.319 --> 00:18:14.599 some stuff came out earlier today. 383 00:18:14.720 --> 00:18:16.799 We got a lot of juicy Piston stuff. Re pissed 384 00:18:16.839 --> 00:18:18.519 me off about the whole Jaien Duran stuff. 385 00:18:18.640 --> 00:18:20.359 Yeah, but if you want to start happy, we got 386 00:18:20.599 --> 00:18:22.359 a Buka Baum last night. 387 00:18:22.400 --> 00:18:24.039 In my opinion, we could talk about that all day 388 00:18:24.039 --> 00:18:28.000 as well too. We also got maybe some MPG trade rumors. 389 00:18:28.640 --> 00:18:29.240 You know what I'm saying. 390 00:18:29.400 --> 00:18:30.880 I just I should have did that poll, to be 391 00:18:30.880 --> 00:18:32.279 honest with you, but I didn't, So it's spinning. 392 00:18:32.359 --> 00:18:34.920 I refer to here. I would say we should start 393 00:18:34.920 --> 00:18:40.319 with the Wemby shit, because this is some of the 394 00:18:40.359 --> 00:18:44.000 craziest I mean, it's not that crazy, it is pretty crazy. 395 00:18:44.279 --> 00:18:46.240 He now hasn't gotten a bag yet, like a big, 396 00:18:46.240 --> 00:18:49.519 big bag. Yeah, it's it's a guy that is okay. 397 00:18:49.559 --> 00:18:53.559 So if you haven't heard per uh, some NBA reporter 398 00:18:53.759 --> 00:18:56.839 Brett Siegel or somebody like that. Not Brett Siegel. It's 399 00:18:56.880 --> 00:19:01.519 somebody actually credible. Uh, Victor, Yeah, Jake Fisher, there it is. 400 00:19:01.680 --> 00:19:05.359 Victor wembin Yama is open to taking less than the 401 00:19:05.400 --> 00:19:09.799 max to keep the Spurs as championship contenders, and he 402 00:19:09.880 --> 00:19:12.480 even put a tweet out there He's like San Antonio fans, 403 00:19:12.880 --> 00:19:16.680 San Antonio family, I'm here whatever it takes with a heart. 404 00:19:17.359 --> 00:19:21.359 So if you look at the NBA as it is 405 00:19:21.480 --> 00:19:24.720 right now, there is probably one player who is deserving 406 00:19:24.759 --> 00:19:29.359 of a Supermax contract, being the seven foot five Kevin 407 00:19:29.440 --> 00:19:33.640 Durant demigod in San Antonio and his Chris said in 408 00:19:33.640 --> 00:19:37.000 our chat, not only that, he's also Tom Brady and 409 00:19:37.039 --> 00:19:39.799 he's willing to take the pay cut so all of 410 00:19:39.839 --> 00:19:43.000 these great, young, talented guards that he has on his 411 00:19:43.119 --> 00:19:47.160 roster can stay there and they can win a championship. 412 00:19:47.799 --> 00:19:52.279 Huh man, that sounds awesome. I sure hope we didn't 413 00:19:52.400 --> 00:19:55.400 have a seven foot rim running big who barely made 414 00:19:55.440 --> 00:19:59.160 all NBA asking for forty five million dollars a year, 415 00:19:59.680 --> 00:20:05.559 while potentially the greatest basketball specimen ever created by God 416 00:20:05.640 --> 00:20:09.480 himself is saying, don't worry about the money. I want 417 00:20:09.480 --> 00:20:12.519 to win a championship. I'm here for the vibe, I'm 418 00:20:12.519 --> 00:20:16.200 here for the in San Antonio with those fat bitches 419 00:20:16.440 --> 00:20:17.400 and the churros. 420 00:20:18.759 --> 00:20:23.640 You got Jalen durn who tested the fucking market and. 421 00:20:23.559 --> 00:20:26.440 Nobody wanted you. Still throwing a fit yet to sign 422 00:20:26.519 --> 00:20:27.480 the Detroit Pistons. 423 00:20:28.400 --> 00:20:32.559 It's frustrating because to me, the dark part is frustrating 424 00:20:32.640 --> 00:20:35.480 because now I can only imagine what the hell Neil 425 00:20:35.559 --> 00:20:38.279 is gonna say. If Durhan's making more money than I. 426 00:20:39.000 --> 00:20:42.480 Oh my god. But but if it were being he 427 00:20:42.519 --> 00:20:47.480 determined he's worthy to Neil, Hey, Neil, you love to 428 00:20:47.519 --> 00:20:50.440 compare the two, right, Oh, the struggles are the same, 429 00:20:50.759 --> 00:20:53.960 even though Wempy was in the fucking finals and Jaylen 430 00:20:54.039 --> 00:20:56.960 Duran was getting benched for Paul Reid. Well, if the 431 00:20:56.960 --> 00:21:01.200 struggles are same, then take the paint cut to buddy. Yeah, 432 00:21:01.240 --> 00:21:03.480 you've got the one that made the finals. See what 433 00:21:03.480 --> 00:21:05.799 are you gonna say? Down, Neil? Come on, I know 434 00:21:05.839 --> 00:21:08.440 you're on vacation, you're enjoying it with the family, all 435 00:21:08.440 --> 00:21:12.240 the pythons together. It's gonna be great. But now there's 436 00:21:12.279 --> 00:21:13.200 nothing you can say. 437 00:21:14.200 --> 00:21:18.839 What frustrates me is that this guy should have been ours, Like, 438 00:21:18.960 --> 00:21:21.400 that's what that That's the first thing that made my 439 00:21:21.480 --> 00:21:24.039 heart sink when I saw that was like, yeah, damn 440 00:21:24.319 --> 00:21:26.240 if my best player, this is no shot to k 441 00:21:26.400 --> 00:21:29.720 Cuham because look, this is what he's doing is unprecedented. 442 00:21:29.880 --> 00:21:32.160 And if you want to shift the focus, it's maybe less. 443 00:21:32.200 --> 00:21:34.200 It's maybe to me less about durn and more about 444 00:21:34.279 --> 00:21:37.160 kid because Kate is your leader. No, but no, but no, 445 00:21:37.279 --> 00:21:39.079 at the end of the day, I'm not saying any 446 00:21:39.119 --> 00:21:41.279 blame m caid at all, but I'm saying, like, man 447 00:21:41.480 --> 00:21:44.039 like to have your to have your guys set the 448 00:21:44.119 --> 00:21:46.640 tone this way, because I bet the way it's gonna 449 00:21:46.640 --> 00:21:48.559 come back around. Do you think all those guards are 450 00:21:48.599 --> 00:21:52.319 just gonna be like thanks, Max me out, buddy, Like, no, no, 451 00:21:52.400 --> 00:21:53.160 they're gonna. 452 00:21:52.880 --> 00:21:55.400 Take pay cuts. I'll take twenty five million. I'll take 453 00:21:55.440 --> 00:21:58.559 twenty five million. I'll that's what you can do. Like 454 00:21:58.599 --> 00:22:01.519 the four great young guards you can have, you can 455 00:22:01.519 --> 00:22:03.559 give them all twenty five million, and then Wemby's at 456 00:22:03.599 --> 00:22:06.440 fucking thirty five and boom and he's also doing us. 457 00:22:06.440 --> 00:22:09.480 You can rotate that Tobias Harris position, the old coming 458 00:22:09.559 --> 00:22:12.160 in stretching the floor like Tobya's gonna retired a couple 459 00:22:12.200 --> 00:22:14.519 of years. Yeah, they're gonna get another one because they 460 00:22:14.559 --> 00:22:16.519 can afford because Wmen's gonnake less money and yes it 461 00:22:16.599 --> 00:22:18.799 is a Jaalin during confercea beyondest because you he doesn't 462 00:22:18.799 --> 00:22:21.039 even deserve the contract that he wants. He's throwing a 463 00:22:21.039 --> 00:22:23.920 fucking fit about it yet to sign about it. Kate 464 00:22:24.000 --> 00:22:26.359 already signed. This is a new president, and this set 465 00:22:26.400 --> 00:22:27.920 from then on and then maybe Kate next time he 466 00:22:27.960 --> 00:22:28.720 signed his contract. 467 00:22:28.799 --> 00:22:30.640 I want to see it then that's but right now 468 00:22:30.680 --> 00:22:31.839 I'm gon gonna durn it with this shit. 469 00:22:32.799 --> 00:22:34.680 That's that's fair, and that's why I want to, like 470 00:22:34.839 --> 00:22:37.559 again to highlight that it is unprecedented. Why don't throw 471 00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:40.799 a blame mccaid because remember Lebron, like when he was 472 00:22:40.799 --> 00:22:43.000 building those super teams and stuff, he was all right, 473 00:22:43.519 --> 00:22:45.680 we're building a super team, but you're paying me every 474 00:22:45.720 --> 00:22:48.960 single penny you can. Like that was the rules, the terms, 475 00:22:48.960 --> 00:22:52.240 the conditions for every single super team. He built in Miami, 476 00:22:52.319 --> 00:22:54.839 he built in Cleveland, he built in LA. Only now 477 00:22:54.960 --> 00:22:57.359 at forty two years old, is this man taking a 478 00:22:57.400 --> 00:23:00.519 pay cut Lebron James? So like, this is not this 479 00:23:00.599 --> 00:23:04.160 is unprecedented for Wemby to say this before his first 480 00:23:04.200 --> 00:23:05.799 contract is even up. 481 00:23:05.920 --> 00:23:09.960 So I mean, man, it just it just frustrates me. 482 00:23:09.920 --> 00:23:13.599 Because he literally has every single intangible of being a 483 00:23:13.680 --> 00:23:16.160 being a great. Like it's not just it's not just 484 00:23:16.200 --> 00:23:21.079 he has this like you know, alien, it's the brain, man, 485 00:23:21.519 --> 00:23:22.279 it's the desire. 486 00:23:22.839 --> 00:23:27.200 It's working out with Tibetan monks and and keem Olajuwan 487 00:23:27.440 --> 00:23:31.720 in the offseason. It is learning how to walk correctly 488 00:23:31.920 --> 00:23:34.759 so you can stay healthy for a longer period of time. 489 00:23:34.960 --> 00:23:41.319 But it's seven foot five, Like, this guy is the 490 00:23:41.319 --> 00:23:44.319 the ultimate like athlete and competitor. And I don't want 491 00:23:44.319 --> 00:23:47.480 to glaze him too hard. But if you are what 492 00:23:47.640 --> 00:23:50.960 people are saying is the next chosen one of basketball, 493 00:23:51.039 --> 00:23:55.279 and you're being Tom Brady as well, like what the fuck, dude, 494 00:23:57.160 --> 00:23:59.359 that ship. This guy's gonna have more rigs than Bill 495 00:23:59.400 --> 00:24:04.599 Russell I career will. That's how you beat the aprons. 496 00:24:04.920 --> 00:24:08.079 That's how you keep super teams together is when the 497 00:24:08.079 --> 00:24:10.519 one guy on your team who truly deserves a three 498 00:24:10.599 --> 00:24:13.519 hundred million dollar contract is like, I'll take a third 499 00:24:13.559 --> 00:24:15.160 of it. Lebron did it with the heat. 500 00:24:15.359 --> 00:24:19.640 Yeah, it's I mean, it's it's unfortunate because he's already 501 00:24:19.640 --> 00:24:21.160 hard to stop right now before. 502 00:24:20.960 --> 00:24:23.319 Jeff, before we get your thoughts on it? Phil, see 503 00:24:23.319 --> 00:24:25.240 you with the super chat He says, five bucks in 504 00:24:25.279 --> 00:24:29.119 there for Chris's house fun five dollars. 505 00:24:28.640 --> 00:24:30.519 And can I just say this real quick shout out 506 00:24:30.519 --> 00:24:33.599 to Phil Stephers in the super chow, Larry, love you. 507 00:24:33.799 --> 00:24:35.440 Appreciate you watching the show, man, I really do. I 508 00:24:35.440 --> 00:24:37.519 don't know if you would like to dictate what we 509 00:24:37.559 --> 00:24:39.920 speak about on the show. You see what Phil just did? Yeah, 510 00:24:40.039 --> 00:24:40.279 there a. 511 00:24:40.279 --> 00:24:43.000 Little little little money on you stopped everything we were doing. 512 00:24:43.039 --> 00:24:45.759 Head address Phil, Right, you want to dictate, let's talk 513 00:24:45.799 --> 00:24:48.680 about on the show. Spend your money? Why I sit back, 514 00:24:48.839 --> 00:24:49.480 relax and. 515 00:24:49.480 --> 00:24:50.440 Enjoy the free entertainment. 516 00:24:50.480 --> 00:24:52.839 YEA, love you though, I appreciate you watching them. Let's 517 00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:54.400 let's quit the bitch. If I want it a bitch, 518 00:24:54.440 --> 00:24:58.960 I want to say home my wife, Oh oh fuck man, 519 00:24:59.079 --> 00:25:02.400 We're never gonna stop. 520 00:25:02.480 --> 00:25:06.000 I truly think that this is a situation where Wenby. 521 00:25:07.440 --> 00:25:10.440 Up in Texas, come listen. He sees. 522 00:25:12.319 --> 00:25:16.000 Sees the talent that is inside of the Spurs organization, 523 00:25:16.039 --> 00:25:18.119 and it goes, I want Dylan Harper here. 524 00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:19.400 I want. 525 00:25:20.680 --> 00:25:23.640 Kate Cunningham is on the Detroit Pistons. Can you honestly 526 00:25:23.720 --> 00:25:26.680 blame him for taking a Max. Why should I have 527 00:25:26.799 --> 00:25:30.279 to Why should I have to to cut my money 528 00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:35.559 those three number when I have Jalen Durant all respected. 529 00:25:35.640 --> 00:25:38.000 Jalen Durant, you had a great regular season, but you 530 00:25:38.079 --> 00:25:40.839 didn't do anything in the playoffs. You're not a top 531 00:25:40.880 --> 00:25:43.119 five center in the NBA. Why should I cut money 532 00:25:43.160 --> 00:25:45.480 for you? Or why should I cut money for a 533 00:25:45.559 --> 00:25:48.319 star even though you're a defensive Player of the Year candidate? 534 00:25:48.559 --> 00:25:50.519 What do you bring me on the offensive side? I 535 00:25:50.559 --> 00:25:53.359 don't have any shooters around me. Why should I? Why 536 00:25:53.400 --> 00:25:57.039 should I cut money? Kate when he was signing that contract, 537 00:25:57.240 --> 00:26:00.400 he had no reason, no reason to cut money because 538 00:26:00.640 --> 00:26:03.240 there was no clear sight at all in this Pistons 539 00:26:03.319 --> 00:26:05.960 organization that he would even be here long term to 540 00:26:06.000 --> 00:26:08.880 even win. Yeah, So like, if you're him, you're gonna 541 00:26:08.880 --> 00:26:09.880 take that Max contract. 542 00:26:11.880 --> 00:26:17.960 Chris Chriss Star Flair with its. 543 00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:18.599 Star attacking cave from it. 544 00:26:18.839 --> 00:26:21.440 By the way, Kate signed that rookie Max and then 545 00:26:21.480 --> 00:26:26.759 he went out there and earned All Pro honors showtime. 546 00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:30.119 Kate three one three with the Super Chants wear the 547 00:26:30.200 --> 00:26:32.799 damn shirts right, got to wear the shirt. That's why 548 00:26:32.799 --> 00:26:36.160 san Antonio wears the shirts. Wenby saw them in those shirts, 549 00:26:36.559 --> 00:26:38.839 and he said, all right, you know, I'll take a 550 00:26:38.920 --> 00:26:42.079 cheap deal. Maybe if you wore the shirts, Jalen Duran 551 00:26:42.319 --> 00:26:45.680 would be signed. Maybe if you wore the shirts, they'd 552 00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:51.440 be willing to trade for a star. No, I'm just kidding, shot, 553 00:26:52.079 --> 00:26:53.640 nothing's on you guys. You guys are the best fans 554 00:26:53.640 --> 00:26:54.160 on the planet. 555 00:26:56.279 --> 00:26:59.440 Point in the fact that Jalen Brunson, he was the 556 00:26:59.480 --> 00:27:01.680 first to do it, really and this this new era 557 00:27:01.720 --> 00:27:04.640 of guys obviously lend back then that. 558 00:27:05.599 --> 00:27:08.680 It was after. It was after his first contract, but 559 00:27:08.720 --> 00:27:10.519 his first contract wasn't that big of one. 560 00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:15.279 And he was also like amazing bringing in his best 561 00:27:15.279 --> 00:27:16.359 friend since college. 562 00:27:16.359 --> 00:27:17.359 So it's true. 563 00:27:17.400 --> 00:27:24.960 You know, it's like you actually have eleven. 564 00:27:22.599 --> 00:27:23.240 Hurts us. 565 00:27:25.880 --> 00:27:28.359 Smoking weed friends from high school. 566 00:27:29.680 --> 00:27:32.000 Tell me, like wim beats saw that the guy took 567 00:27:32.079 --> 00:27:34.400 less money, literally beat him. And the other part about 568 00:27:34.400 --> 00:27:36.599 two is Wimby in the Spurs. We talked about before too. 569 00:27:36.759 --> 00:27:38.839 They were up in every single one of those finals 570 00:27:38.839 --> 00:27:39.400 games and. 571 00:27:39.440 --> 00:27:41.519 Just choked away. It felt like an experienced thing more 572 00:27:41.559 --> 00:27:42.839 than like they got best. 573 00:27:42.880 --> 00:27:44.480 Obviously they got best at the end of the day, yes, 574 00:27:44.480 --> 00:27:46.279 but it felt like they choked it away more than anything. 575 00:27:46.319 --> 00:27:50.400 Like they just needed to close this guy. He might 576 00:27:50.400 --> 00:27:52.240 he's run the league for six years straight. This is 577 00:27:52.400 --> 00:27:55.440 terrifying stuff to find out. And death the Dog says, No, 578 00:27:55.519 --> 00:27:57.920 I'm after the ones I gave you. Talking about the shirts, 579 00:27:58.000 --> 00:27:59.279 I born your shirt before. 580 00:27:59.039 --> 00:28:01.880 Man, and we're working on I'm working on. You already 581 00:28:01.880 --> 00:28:03.680 know my situation. I thought we only had the big 582 00:28:03.680 --> 00:28:05.960 one that he brought for the summertime. Chris brought a 583 00:28:06.000 --> 00:28:09.440 couple all the time. Yeah, well I got one for 584 00:28:09.519 --> 00:28:11.319 the first one the first sun. 585 00:28:11.039 --> 00:28:13.400 Damn near every Friday all today between the Rap Cave 586 00:28:13.400 --> 00:28:13.839 and History. 587 00:28:13.960 --> 00:28:19.079 Ye shout out out, shout out. Bring Scotty Holmes. I mean, 588 00:28:19.200 --> 00:28:21.720 if if that question goes through, I bet that won't 589 00:28:21.720 --> 00:28:23.759 sit well with Scotty Barnes. And you know him and 590 00:28:23.839 --> 00:28:27.279 Kate are boys, and that why she could change and 591 00:28:27.319 --> 00:28:31.200 he would be And I like, if we're talking, if 592 00:28:31.240 --> 00:28:35.119 we're talking about it with Scottie Barnes, that's a player 593 00:28:35.160 --> 00:28:37.079 you're moving. You're you're willing to move a star for 594 00:28:37.960 --> 00:28:40.599 I would rather bring well, obviously you'd rather keep it. 595 00:28:40.720 --> 00:28:43.839 Obviously you'd rather keep a SAR. But Toronto would start 596 00:28:43.839 --> 00:28:45.519 with Asar Thompson and that. 597 00:28:45.519 --> 00:28:47.920 Wouldn't be a deal breaker for talking about you won't 598 00:28:47.960 --> 00:28:50.440 have this opportunity to kay Conny until twenty nine to thirty, 599 00:28:50.960 --> 00:28:51.559 which is mine. 600 00:28:51.599 --> 00:28:53.559 I don't I don't mind Kate getting his money. Get 601 00:28:53.559 --> 00:28:55.440 your money because you earned it. You earned it, you 602 00:28:55.440 --> 00:28:57.200 would Yeah, you were honest. 603 00:28:57.599 --> 00:29:00.440 It's not OK's gonna go up to We should be 604 00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:03.359 spinning this on kid at all. That's decades. We're talking 605 00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:05.680 about the two centers that are looking to get paid 606 00:29:05.880 --> 00:29:10.920 this offseason, one of them basically being basketball Jesus and 607 00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:15.200 the other one being Jalen duran I'll tell you what, 608 00:29:15.799 --> 00:29:21.079 Jayalen Durn's not the one take in the discount and no, no, 609 00:29:21.559 --> 00:29:25.519 and there's you know, get your money man, like you know, 610 00:29:26.160 --> 00:29:28.160 who knows if you get a second contract. But you're 611 00:29:28.160 --> 00:29:31.079 young enough to where you're probably gonna get another contract. 612 00:29:30.720 --> 00:29:32.799 After this, Yeah you are. And you're probably gonna get 613 00:29:32.839 --> 00:29:34.480 another max contract after. 614 00:29:34.279 --> 00:29:36.119 This as well. 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Yeah, I 673 00:32:55.720 --> 00:32:59.400 don't know, but insanet he got some robot eyes my 674 00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:04.480 granddad out of devil flore Yeah, it's way better for like, yo, no, 675 00:33:05.039 --> 00:33:08.279 you gotta go gain Yeah, yago. 676 00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:11.160 Again, that's why I need to help on the vote block. 677 00:33:14.000 --> 00:33:19.119 What's your gampa's name, n Johnny? Grandpa Johnny? All right, 678 00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:20.359 enough of the honey. 679 00:33:20.079 --> 00:33:22.079 Dicken, Yeah, Grandpa Johnny. 680 00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:27.599 Allegedly corner reports MPJ Michael Porter Jr. And the Nets 681 00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:30.920 can't come to a conclusion on a contract extension. This 682 00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:32.640 is his final year of his deal. He's making forty 683 00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:36.000 million dollars. Is twenty four percent of the salary cap available. 684 00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:39.480 Is this a move the pisses need to make. We 685 00:33:39.519 --> 00:33:41.319 talked about making this move the deadline last year. 686 00:33:41.480 --> 00:33:45.599 Yes, he didn't go anywhere. Yes, yes, Michael mean now 687 00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:49.599 me needing a lot of Michael not like you. If 688 00:33:49.640 --> 00:33:52.119 you can make this happen, you make It's Kevin Durant 689 00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:57.240 light and he has been proven to work on a 690 00:33:57.359 --> 00:34:02.240 championship winning team around a big, facilitating, low post guy 691 00:34:03.920 --> 00:34:08.159 like he was the number three two on that championship 692 00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:10.320 team in Denver. Him and Aaron Gordon were the de 693 00:34:10.360 --> 00:34:14.280 facto two or three Jam Murray. Well, yeah, so you 694 00:34:14.280 --> 00:34:17.280 gotta Quary Murray Corey kind of sounds the same, Uh, 695 00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:20.079 but no. Yeah, if you can get Michael Porter junior, 696 00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:22.079 you do it. And you don't go give four first 697 00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:23.800 round picks or whatever the hell they were asking for 698 00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:26.039 the deadline. You you low ball them. 699 00:34:26.400 --> 00:34:29.880 So this is actually the worst case scenario for the 700 00:34:29.920 --> 00:34:33.440 Detroit Pistons. He doesn't get a lot of money because no, 701 00:34:33.559 --> 00:34:36.400 because the Pistons, right now can't get him. There is 702 00:34:36.440 --> 00:34:39.440 mathematically no way the Pisses could get him outside of 703 00:34:39.639 --> 00:34:41.840 outside of sign and trading. But the report is that 704 00:34:41.880 --> 00:34:44.760 they're trading him before the season if they can't agree 705 00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:46.000 to contract extension. 706 00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:49.320 So this is the worst point is. 707 00:34:49.239 --> 00:34:52.079 So they would have to sign and trade Michael Porter Jr. 708 00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:53.239 For the Pistons to get him. 709 00:34:53.400 --> 00:34:55.400 No, they the pisson is the only way they can 710 00:34:55.440 --> 00:34:57.800 mathematically do it is by signing trading durry because if 711 00:34:57.840 --> 00:34:59.760 you look at their if you look at their cap sheet, 712 00:34:59.800 --> 00:35:02.440 now you look at their cap shoot. Now, the Pisses 713 00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:06.559 have Duncan Robinson making sixteen million, the next highest eligible 714 00:35:06.559 --> 00:35:09.559 trading salary, because you can't trade Collins. So it would 715 00:35:09.599 --> 00:35:12.039 be it would be excuse me, who is there? That 716 00:35:12.679 --> 00:35:14.559 would yeah, Ron Holland. 717 00:35:14.280 --> 00:35:18.559 So would you say something like Jalen Duran and Duncan 718 00:35:18.679 --> 00:35:21.039 Robinson for Nick Claxon and Michael Porter Junior. 719 00:35:21.079 --> 00:35:23.880 Would be something you could the bull the bulls? Who's 720 00:35:23.880 --> 00:35:25.679 the math Wise, that wouldn't work either. 721 00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:27.960 Who's there? Who's the well? Who's the net center? You 722 00:35:28.000 --> 00:35:29.400 got to get a big back from them if you're 723 00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:36.800 trading Durty, the don't have Oh we're disrespecting you. They 724 00:35:36.800 --> 00:35:38.119 don't have a center. I doubt that. 725 00:35:38.280 --> 00:35:40.679 No, they traded. They traded Nick Claxton. The three team 726 00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:45.039 traded got Juwis Randall. I guess Yrd center right now 727 00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:49.760 or Darren Sharp. Darren Sharp would be their But no, 728 00:35:49.840 --> 00:35:52.280 this is the worst case scenario for the Pisses because 729 00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:55.639 mathematically you have all right, so you have Holland and Duncan, right, 730 00:35:55.760 --> 00:36:00.360 they got for twenty four million. You can't you can't 731 00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:02.840 aggregate your trade exception. So remember they have that twenty 732 00:36:02.840 --> 00:36:06.079 million dollar trade exception. You can't use that plus salaries, 733 00:36:06.519 --> 00:36:08.239 so it has to be separate. So the way the 734 00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:11.840 Pisses could get Michael Porter is they have to hope 735 00:36:11.960 --> 00:36:16.199 that Michael Porter doesn't get traded before this, before this 736 00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:19.360 because also if he signs an extension, he cannot be 737 00:36:19.400 --> 00:36:22.639 traded this entire calendar year of the NBA season, no 738 00:36:22.679 --> 00:36:23.360 matter what they. 739 00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:23.880 Extend him to. 740 00:36:23.920 --> 00:36:26.440 If they extend him to a contract, you can't trade 741 00:36:26.440 --> 00:36:27.119 that player. 742 00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:29.239 For sign trade ward the sign trade. 743 00:36:29.320 --> 00:36:31.400 No, they can't because he's not a free agent right now. 744 00:36:31.599 --> 00:36:33.840 It's an extension, not a free agent signing. 745 00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:37.440 But they can still manage during They signed durn. 746 00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:40.679 See that would be the movies. They would have to 747 00:36:40.760 --> 00:36:42.920 use duran. That's the only mathematical way. 748 00:36:43.360 --> 00:36:48.599 And you know it's forty million. You got Ron making nine, yes, 749 00:36:48.679 --> 00:36:49.719 Duncan making fifteen. 750 00:36:49.960 --> 00:36:52.360 You can't trade Collins because you just acquired him via 751 00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:53.159 sign and trade. 752 00:36:53.239 --> 00:36:54.760 You can't trade you. 753 00:36:55.000 --> 00:36:58.760 You'd have to package like literally everybody else. But you 754 00:36:58.760 --> 00:37:01.159 can't even do that because you can't trade Javonte Green. 755 00:37:01.360 --> 00:37:03.760 You can't trade. I don't know if you could trade 756 00:37:03.800 --> 00:37:05.559 Toria Prince and Gary Harris, but they only make a 757 00:37:05.599 --> 00:37:09.599 combined six million, So like you can't. You can't get 758 00:37:09.599 --> 00:37:10.559 the money to get there. 759 00:37:11.039 --> 00:37:13.679 You can't. I'm just saying Dayron Sharp's per thirty six 760 00:37:13.840 --> 00:37:16.960 is seventeen thirteen, four and a half, two steals in 761 00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:17.360 a block. 762 00:37:17.440 --> 00:37:20.719 He was a baby pottery like he wasn't he wasn't 763 00:37:20.760 --> 00:37:23.000 demon in garbage game. Yeah, we don't have So it's 764 00:37:23.039 --> 00:37:27.119 not happening. It's it's not happening. But that's our franchise 765 00:37:27.119 --> 00:37:29.000 is to invest in. Like that's what was dumb ass. 766 00:37:29.039 --> 00:37:32.719 Franchise will take Jalen Durn. They've been looking for Jaylen Durn. 767 00:37:33.079 --> 00:37:36.119 They've been talking, they tried, they've been sniffing around Duran 768 00:37:36.159 --> 00:37:37.119 for a little while. 769 00:37:37.159 --> 00:37:37.400 Have it. 770 00:37:37.599 --> 00:37:40.280 I'll be honest, I don't think that was the Knicks. 771 00:37:40.320 --> 00:37:43.800 I wouldn't give up Jayalen Duran for Michael porterj No, 772 00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:46.000 because you can find MPG. 773 00:37:46.800 --> 00:37:47.880 You can't find Jalen Duran. 774 00:37:47.920 --> 00:37:50.360 You can find MPJ in Camp Johnson if you wanted 775 00:37:50.360 --> 00:37:53.519 to like look at yes, yeah. 776 00:37:53.519 --> 00:37:56.880 Jeff, Yes, Michael Porters way back. Yeah, you can't like 777 00:37:57.480 --> 00:37:59.760 that strike too week strike to this week. 778 00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:01.559 But look how much money he wants though, are you 779 00:38:01.800 --> 00:38:03.360 one more officer? 780 00:38:04.079 --> 00:38:06.880 One more of those takes the contract extension. He's got 781 00:38:06.880 --> 00:38:10.519 one year left, yes, and then so he wants his 782 00:38:10.559 --> 00:38:11.519 contract extended. 783 00:38:11.880 --> 00:38:15.079 Oh, Ship Bam out of Bio and Tyler Herro got 784 00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:18.360 into a physical altercation in Las Vegas and Friday Friday 785 00:38:18.360 --> 00:38:19.599 out of Bio struck Hero. 786 00:38:20.920 --> 00:38:25.360 No way, Tyler Heroes hurt. So he's available. Yeah, Tyler 787 00:38:25.400 --> 00:38:28.840 Herro standing on. I will take it into Tyler Hero. 788 00:38:29.119 --> 00:38:34.440 I would much rather have gone been talking that ship. 789 00:38:35.239 --> 00:38:36.880 Ship Bam walked up on it. Damn. 790 00:38:37.239 --> 00:38:39.880 Maybe I think the other part that matters too, because 791 00:38:39.880 --> 00:38:42.119 I think I would be I would entertain m PJ 792 00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:45.760 over Durren simply because I think he's a winning piece, 793 00:38:45.800 --> 00:38:47.679 and during you win games and. 794 00:38:47.599 --> 00:38:48.440 Get to the playoffs with them. 795 00:38:48.440 --> 00:38:49.760 I just don't see during as like the piece of 796 00:38:49.800 --> 00:38:52.880 complete Cador championships would be. Who are partying with it? 797 00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:55.119 But it depends on how much Michael Porter Junior is 798 00:38:55.119 --> 00:38:55.679 trying to sign it. 799 00:38:55.760 --> 00:38:59.320 And it's way easier to find a center who can 800 00:38:59.360 --> 00:39:02.719 rebound and defend the rim than it is a power 801 00:39:02.760 --> 00:39:05.840 forward who shoots forty three percent from three on seven 802 00:39:05.880 --> 00:39:08.440 attempts and can create his own shot the phone and 803 00:39:09.480 --> 00:39:12.280 can rebound and is a I think you put it perfectly, 804 00:39:12.280 --> 00:39:17.360 he's Katie like Katie. This is like a cheaper version 805 00:39:17.400 --> 00:39:21.559 of it. Actually team, not even team, because he's good, 806 00:39:21.599 --> 00:39:23.639 like Michael Porter junr. Is good, and you would ever 807 00:39:24.239 --> 00:39:27.159 you'd average twenty five a game playing with Kate Cunningham 808 00:39:27.199 --> 00:39:30.039 on his team. It would be disgusting. It would be gross. 809 00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:33.400 No, I'm all for it. It's just unfortunately he doesn't 810 00:39:33.679 --> 00:39:35.079 line up unless you lets you. 811 00:39:35.559 --> 00:39:39.559 Yes, we're saying that, like all of these moves and stuff, 812 00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:44.880 even with what the roster looks like now being marginally better, 813 00:39:45.519 --> 00:39:47.800 it feels like they've been building to something. No. 814 00:39:48.159 --> 00:39:52.159 Yeah, the problem is is there anything as I think 815 00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:54.519 that a week ago, Trajan looked at the landscape and 816 00:39:54.639 --> 00:39:56.760 was like, all right, I have to AMML up for 817 00:39:56.800 --> 00:40:00.840 the trade deadline, and now you know this unfortunately kind 818 00:40:00.840 --> 00:40:02.679 of came out of nowhere. But I don't know, maybe they, 819 00:40:02.800 --> 00:40:05.039 maybe the Pisses aren't really that interested. I know they've 820 00:40:05.039 --> 00:40:07.360 been linked to him, but it doesn't seem like they 821 00:40:07.400 --> 00:40:11.039 ever like aggressively pursued him. Yeah, maybe tradition doesn't. For 822 00:40:11.119 --> 00:40:14.400 whatever reason, I would disagree with whatever his reason is. 823 00:40:14.440 --> 00:40:16.440 Michael being out on Porter. 824 00:40:16.679 --> 00:40:20.039 Well, I mean, Michael Porter has been known to disappear 825 00:40:20.079 --> 00:40:22.800 at times. He has been known that when he was 826 00:40:22.840 --> 00:40:28.599 with Dever he did disappear and before after I know, 827 00:40:28.639 --> 00:40:30.800 they won a championship. But I'm saying it's not like 828 00:40:30.920 --> 00:40:32.840 he was the driving force behind it. 829 00:40:32.960 --> 00:40:34.679 He was a big reason. Honestly, I would say he 830 00:40:34.719 --> 00:40:37.679 was thirteen in the road to the championship. 831 00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:40.000 Would say he was the fourth option on that team. Yeah, 832 00:40:41.960 --> 00:40:43.920 I think Aaron, but he was. 833 00:40:43.960 --> 00:40:45.840 You could say he's the fourth best player because yeah, 834 00:40:45.880 --> 00:40:49.039 but he would be your second option. Yeah, scoring immediately 835 00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:53.840 would immediately bel would immediately be the best isolation scorer 836 00:40:53.880 --> 00:40:54.559 on your team. 837 00:40:54.679 --> 00:40:58.239 Yeah, I think y'all look at too like and for 838 00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:00.519 the Jayalen During stuff like people all like, don't during 839 00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:02.599 gave you nothing the playoffs, but he can Obias and 840 00:41:02.679 --> 00:41:03.719 came win your games. 841 00:41:03.880 --> 00:41:06.159 This is a souped up Tobias, the young Tobias with 842 00:41:06.239 --> 00:41:12.599 a better shot, a longer guy too shot, but more. 843 00:41:12.840 --> 00:41:14.000 I think when I look at when I look at 844 00:41:14.039 --> 00:41:17.480 Jalen during, I do see that he is an unfinished product. 845 00:41:17.519 --> 00:41:19.760 Like we still there's still a lot more of his 846 00:41:19.800 --> 00:41:21.320 game that he has yet to unlock. 847 00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:24.360 Now true, of course, you know you have to see 848 00:41:24.400 --> 00:41:26.920 the unlocking of that. But he's only twenty two. He's 849 00:41:26.960 --> 00:41:27.760 he's only twenty two. 850 00:41:27.880 --> 00:41:29.880 He's how much more we're gonna see? We kind of 851 00:41:29.880 --> 00:41:30.920 know what this prototype is. 852 00:41:31.039 --> 00:41:33.679 I think we've seen but like during the regular season, 853 00:41:33.719 --> 00:41:35.840 and I know the regular season does not matter, but 854 00:41:35.880 --> 00:41:39.760 that's where you're seeing seeds get planning development. Why he 855 00:41:40.079 --> 00:41:43.000 was an All NBA player was because he unlocked his 856 00:41:43.119 --> 00:41:45.840 isolation scoring ability, whether it was taking people off the 857 00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:49.239 dribble or studying. You know, I saw I'm hitting step 858 00:41:49.280 --> 00:41:51.239 back jumpers and like not even that, but just a 859 00:41:51.320 --> 00:41:55.400 consistent sixteen foot jump shot and a couple dribble moves. 860 00:41:55.400 --> 00:41:57.400 At the top of the key where you're not useless 861 00:41:57.760 --> 00:41:59.760 at the top part of a pick and roll, and 862 00:41:59.800 --> 00:42:03.440 that would unlock so much for him offensively. Again, I 863 00:42:03.559 --> 00:42:08.719 do also subscribe to the factor that with the lack 864 00:42:08.760 --> 00:42:11.760 of shooting around them, the paints were so clogged against 865 00:42:11.760 --> 00:42:15.360 teams like the Magic and like Cleveland, it made it 866 00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:19.000 very hard for him to test those already questionable offensive 867 00:42:19.000 --> 00:42:21.440 skills that he was developing. But if he can get 868 00:42:21.480 --> 00:42:24.079 more confident with that, it is there. I do see it. 869 00:42:24.079 --> 00:42:26.119 It's just I don't know if it's mentally there. That's 870 00:42:26.159 --> 00:42:27.079 the biggest hurdle for me. 871 00:42:27.199 --> 00:42:28.760 Fun fact, by the way I looked it up, Aaron 872 00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:31.320 Gordon and Michael Port Junior both average thirteen and six 873 00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:31.880 in that finals. 874 00:42:31.960 --> 00:42:36.880 Run a much better defender. Yeah, but we don't need 875 00:42:36.880 --> 00:42:42.199 a defender playmaker, no argument, No, I'm if is looking 876 00:42:42.199 --> 00:42:42.920 to get rid of people. 877 00:42:43.400 --> 00:42:46.480 MPJ beancakes. MPJ is much more than a catch and 878 00:42:46.519 --> 00:42:49.360 shoot guy. Absolutely like go go watch his name from 879 00:42:49.400 --> 00:42:52.280 this year. All the points this year were basically off 880 00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:57.920 the trim and it was Brooklyn, it was Cam Thomas 881 00:42:57.960 --> 00:43:01.119 and MPJ run Iso ball. Yeah, Kem Thomas, I don't 882 00:43:01.119 --> 00:43:02.760 know if you know, but brother, he does not pass 883 00:43:02.840 --> 00:43:04.800 the ball like you have to dribble that ship. So 884 00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:06.800 but I do see he is very good at catching 885 00:43:06.840 --> 00:43:08.960 shooting too, though, which is a huge plus. Yeah it is. 886 00:43:09.000 --> 00:43:12.320 But I do see the Jayla Duran of him getting better, 887 00:43:12.400 --> 00:43:15.880 like especially if he adds a mid range shot that 888 00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:18.840 we've seen a little bit and it's obviously there because 889 00:43:18.840 --> 00:43:20.599 he has he shoots a good clip from the free 890 00:43:20.599 --> 00:43:23.480 throw percentage. So like I think that a free throw, 891 00:43:23.559 --> 00:43:25.599 I mean, like a mid range jumper could be added 892 00:43:25.599 --> 00:43:28.000 to his game. That truly helps out this offense in 893 00:43:28.039 --> 00:43:29.800 Kate a lot as well, because now he's not just 894 00:43:29.840 --> 00:43:32.480 standing in the paint or only teams are not only 895 00:43:32.519 --> 00:43:35.039 looking to see him in the paint around the painted 896 00:43:35.079 --> 00:43:37.440 area to score. He can step out and hit that 897 00:43:37.840 --> 00:43:39.159 you know, mid range up hopeful. 898 00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:41.480 You're hopeful, No, I've seen you are. I mean we've 899 00:43:41.559 --> 00:43:42.280 seen it. We've seen it. 900 00:43:43.480 --> 00:43:46.679 So I mean, if he can, so each time, you know, 901 00:43:46.679 --> 00:43:49.079 you go to the offseason, you want to keep developing 902 00:43:49.159 --> 00:43:52.559 and enhancing those skills. If he enhances those skills even 903 00:43:52.599 --> 00:43:55.400 pass to what he just did, now you're looking at 904 00:43:55.400 --> 00:43:57.360 a way better Jandla Duran. You're looking at Jala during 905 00:43:57.440 --> 00:43:59.079 that can now score from the mid range. 906 00:43:59.280 --> 00:44:01.360 That's never been the number two in a championship team 907 00:44:01.400 --> 00:44:02.400 though never. 908 00:44:02.320 --> 00:44:04.599 No, I'm not saying that I'm saying I'm saying that, 909 00:44:04.599 --> 00:44:05.679 though I know I'm not saying. 910 00:44:06.239 --> 00:44:08.719 That's what I'm saying, brother, that you can get better? 911 00:44:09.519 --> 00:44:11.440 Are you help me win a championship? 912 00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:13.519 We've got win? Be taking a discount. 913 00:44:13.559 --> 00:44:14.880 You want the most money you can get, and I 914 00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:16.920 can't guarantee that you'll be the second best guy on 915 00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:19.119 my team while I'm paying you to be the second 916 00:44:19.119 --> 00:44:20.400 best guy. 917 00:44:20.599 --> 00:44:20.920 One thing. 918 00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:23.599 The money is one thing, but all the play. 919 00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:25.880 Himself to player himself. If we got my discount, would 920 00:44:25.880 --> 00:44:27.559 love it. But the money he wants to and the 921 00:44:27.599 --> 00:44:31.119 money's gonna make and you take you take him. If 922 00:44:31.360 --> 00:44:33.320 I would want more than just MPJ and that exchange, 923 00:44:33.400 --> 00:44:36.239 I'll say that, like give me, give me some assets 924 00:44:36.320 --> 00:44:37.920 or something, because I can't guarantee he's gonna sign and 925 00:44:37.920 --> 00:44:38.880 I'm always gonna sign four. 926 00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:40.760 It's gonna be a lot of money. And if you're 927 00:44:40.840 --> 00:44:43.639 jailing Duran, you're number one. You're trade away five years 928 00:44:43.679 --> 00:44:46.199 of service for just one guarantee. Jalen Duran is gonna 929 00:44:46.199 --> 00:44:47.840 sign this contract. At the end of the day, he's 930 00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:50.239 going to sign this thirty he might not. 931 00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:52.679 He will, he might take he might take the bet 932 00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:54.880 on himself. It happens a lot. His agent would be 933 00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:58.679 doing him. His agent has already thrown vice. But and 934 00:44:58.719 --> 00:44:59.920 then you you you tie in. 935 00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:02.079 The fact is that they're going to end up assigning 936 00:45:02.440 --> 00:45:05.920 signing sar to around you know, that thirty to thirty 937 00:45:05.920 --> 00:45:09.079 five million dollar contract as well when the cap goes up. 938 00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:10.880 Now you look at the Pistons and they're in a 939 00:45:11.360 --> 00:45:14.239 way better spot because now they have two players that 940 00:45:14.280 --> 00:45:17.280 are you know, making under forty million, and then you 941 00:45:17.280 --> 00:45:19.880 have Kate and you could add another piece onto that. 942 00:45:20.039 --> 00:45:24.079 It's not just you know, necessarily per se like them 943 00:45:24.199 --> 00:45:26.199 going in from Michael Porter Junior and then he wants 944 00:45:26.239 --> 00:45:28.880 to get paid you know, forty five million dollars as well. 945 00:45:29.679 --> 00:45:31.320 It's a little bit different now you have your your 946 00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:32.119 money is differently. 947 00:45:32.239 --> 00:45:34.320 Yeah, your money's definitely tied up. That's the one thing 948 00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:38.360 is the contracts wouldn't max or wouldn't match, and he 949 00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:40.559 wouldn't be able to get paid as much as he did, 950 00:45:40.599 --> 00:45:43.880 which I don't think he he's gonna make that either. 951 00:45:43.880 --> 00:45:45.880 I don't think Michael Porter Junior is gonna make forty 952 00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:47.960 million dollars on his next contract. He already got the 953 00:45:48.000 --> 00:45:50.559 roll at that dice didn't live up to it like, 954 00:45:50.880 --> 00:45:53.119 and he has the injury problems that is there too. 955 00:45:53.320 --> 00:45:56.239 So in this, in this, in this cap climate where 956 00:45:56.280 --> 00:45:58.320 we're seeing people squeezed. 957 00:45:57.880 --> 00:46:01.559 Yeah, every nobody's giving Michael Porter Junior unless you want 958 00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:03.559 to play for the nets, and he obviously doesn't want to. 959 00:46:03.760 --> 00:46:05.800 And this is someone banging my fist on table. You 960 00:46:05.800 --> 00:46:07.000 gotta go do it, You gotta go do it, you 961 00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:10.000 gotta go do it. I just think go sniff around. 962 00:46:10.039 --> 00:46:12.519 No, for sure, it's definitely where situation with contract being involved, 963 00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:13.639 and you have to give it a dinner like that. 964 00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:15.719 So let me let me commit it. 965 00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:18.559 What I what I understand would be the perfect scenario 966 00:46:18.639 --> 00:46:20.559 for the Pisses to acquire them. It would have to 967 00:46:20.599 --> 00:46:23.599 be past December fifteenth, when all the contracts are eligible 968 00:46:23.639 --> 00:46:27.199 for trade. You then have guys like Kevin Hurder that 969 00:46:27.239 --> 00:46:31.519 can be packaged along with Ron holland Dunket Robinson. You 970 00:46:31.599 --> 00:46:34.239 might not even have to package Junkie Robinson. They're really 971 00:46:34.280 --> 00:46:36.599 the key here would be for the Pistons for Trajan 972 00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:39.960 to use that trade that trade exception, I believe it's 973 00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:42.800 anywhere from fifteen to twenty million. I gotta double check 974 00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:46.719 what it is. But but use that get a player 975 00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:48.440 that just fills that salary. 976 00:46:48.679 --> 00:46:50.000 Yeah, it just fills that salary. 977 00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:52.039 Because then if you get it, if you get a 978 00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:54.599 player right now that with a trade exception that's literally 979 00:46:54.639 --> 00:46:58.239 just contract space, that's contract space, you can then use 980 00:46:58.280 --> 00:47:01.280 that as an aggregate in the trade for MPJ. So 981 00:47:01.320 --> 00:47:04.079 you could essentially get the trade exception player which is 982 00:47:04.079 --> 00:47:07.440 making fifteen to twenty million plus Kevin Herder plus Roden 983 00:47:07.480 --> 00:47:10.360 Holland gets you MPJ. You don't have to touch Duncan 984 00:47:10.440 --> 00:47:11.440 Robinson in that trade. 985 00:47:11.719 --> 00:47:14.239 Would I look at the biggest part of this, like 986 00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:17.320 you said, Chris, that they said, like the NET said 987 00:47:17.320 --> 00:47:20.119 that they want to trade him before the season if 988 00:47:20.119 --> 00:47:24.679 they can't extend him. Nobody's going to trade for Michael 989 00:47:24.719 --> 00:47:27.159 Porter Junior on a forty million dollar contract with a 990 00:47:27.199 --> 00:47:32.199 back injury expiring expiring for what they expect to get 991 00:47:32.199 --> 00:47:35.079 from I would be very surprised if they moved Michael 992 00:47:35.119 --> 00:47:38.840 Porter Junior before the season without taking a very very 993 00:47:38.880 --> 00:47:39.480 low offer. 994 00:47:39.639 --> 00:47:41.440 Yeah, I think that's the Key there too. 995 00:47:42.800 --> 00:47:46.199 Yeah, okay, one from Karris, one from Stu, fifteen from Stu, 996 00:47:46.320 --> 00:47:47.679 fourteen point eight from Karris. 997 00:47:47.800 --> 00:47:49.480 Okay, So that's twenty nine in total. 998 00:47:49.559 --> 00:47:52.599 So go get twenty nine plays million dollars worth of 999 00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:55.119 salary that you can aggregate in trades. That's gonna make 1000 00:47:55.119 --> 00:47:58.199 you a lot easier to move on trader like that 1001 00:47:58.199 --> 00:48:00.800 would be my advice. But we got to remember that 1002 00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:03.400 the same discussion we're having here about how like this 1003 00:48:03.440 --> 00:48:05.559 isn't the right time for the Pissons to trade. That's 1004 00:48:05.599 --> 00:48:08.000 every team free agency just happens. So like like you 1005 00:48:08.000 --> 00:48:10.800 were saying, Spencer, like every team has players now that 1006 00:48:10.840 --> 00:48:12.480 they can't trade till December fifteenth. 1007 00:48:12.599 --> 00:48:14.239 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's gonna be a hard 1008 00:48:14.519 --> 00:48:16.320 It's gonna be a hard time for them to find 1009 00:48:16.320 --> 00:48:19.039 a place for Michael Porter Jr. It is just postraing. 1010 00:48:19.039 --> 00:48:21.400 I think I would be very surprised if they got 1011 00:48:21.400 --> 00:48:23.639 a deal with him done, getting a return that they 1012 00:48:23.639 --> 00:48:26.400 would accept. Like, the only way I can see them 1013 00:48:26.400 --> 00:48:28.719 getting a deal done before the season starts is if 1014 00:48:28.719 --> 00:48:30.840 they're just like, fuck it, we want to get rid 1015 00:48:30.840 --> 00:48:34.199 of him. We'll take a small player in some second. 1016 00:48:33.960 --> 00:48:36.119 Round picks, and then the team is also gonna have 1017 00:48:36.199 --> 00:48:39.280 to you know, MPJ and the team that he is 1018 00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:41.800 traded too, are gonna have to come to terms on 1019 00:48:41.840 --> 00:48:42.880 a contract extension. 1020 00:48:42.960 --> 00:48:45.280 Yeah, before that trade even takes And that's another Yeah, 1021 00:48:45.320 --> 00:48:47.599 that's another risk of it for the team trading for him. 1022 00:48:47.599 --> 00:48:49.519 It's like, you know, we don't we don't want to. 1023 00:48:50.000 --> 00:48:50.400 I don't know. 1024 00:48:50.559 --> 00:48:52.599 I think the Pistons are better off in a spot 1025 00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:55.679 now where you just wait until the deadline. You wait 1026 00:48:55.719 --> 00:48:58.519 until the trade deadline, because then you're gonna have more 1027 00:48:58.559 --> 00:49:01.880 options to trade for. Like Tyler Hero is definitely gonna 1028 00:49:01.880 --> 00:49:04.079 be available at the trade down l he's done his 1029 00:49:04.199 --> 00:49:08.199 last year. Unless Milwaukee is actually planning on building around 1030 00:49:08.199 --> 00:49:10.679 them long term, which I don't think that is a case, 1031 00:49:11.079 --> 00:49:14.639 then you're gonna have an MPJ to you know, at 1032 00:49:14.639 --> 00:49:15.079 the trade dem. 1033 00:49:15.239 --> 00:49:17.400 I think with Tyler Herro, what Milwaukee wants is to 1034 00:49:17.400 --> 00:49:19.760 sell a ship ton of jerseys for a year and 1035 00:49:19.800 --> 00:49:21.960 then get him out of there. They can. They want 1036 00:49:22.000 --> 00:49:24.000 him the ball on a team where he is, and 1037 00:49:24.280 --> 00:49:27.639 you can get Tyler Herro at the deadline, you trade 1038 00:49:27.639 --> 00:49:30.239 all of the you know, the Garrris, the Torrian Princess, 1039 00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:32.360 all those guards that you just brought in, you get 1040 00:49:32.400 --> 00:49:34.119 them all in a first round pick to my or 1041 00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:36.960 to Milwaukee for Tyler Herro at the deadline boom. 1042 00:49:37.039 --> 00:49:39.360 And for the record, I'm good with the one year. 1043 00:49:39.519 --> 00:49:41.719 I'm good with the one year rental. Like obviously you 1044 00:49:41.760 --> 00:49:43.960 want him on a team Fredly deal, but like we 1045 00:49:44.079 --> 00:49:46.239 saw it work with Toronto with Kawhi, like you know 1046 00:49:46.280 --> 00:49:49.519 like that. I know, I know heroes, not Kawhi. Hear 1047 00:49:49.559 --> 00:49:52.159 me out. But what I'm saying is like I'm okay 1048 00:49:52.199 --> 00:49:55.119 with I'm okay with the risk of acquiring and expiring CONTs. 1049 00:49:55.280 --> 00:49:57.199 I agree because you're not gonna have to give up 1050 00:49:57.199 --> 00:49:58.880 that much. You gotta give it. You get burned on 1051 00:49:58.920 --> 00:50:02.960 Tyler Herrow for a first round whatever this market is. Yeah, 1052 00:50:03.039 --> 00:50:04.519 we got a couple of super chets and then we 1053 00:50:04.599 --> 00:50:06.840 got a non super chat that's really good that I 1054 00:50:06.840 --> 00:50:08.639 want to read in there. Got Dante's from earlier. 1055 00:50:08.840 --> 00:50:12.079 Uh he says, uh Durrant or as one called him, 1056 00:50:12.280 --> 00:50:15.480 Duran to screw himself worally Durren is becoming the bad 1057 00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:17.960 guy with Wimby's becoming the good guy in the NBA. 1058 00:50:18.079 --> 00:50:20.639 That's a spot on take facts Durren's made himself look 1059 00:50:20.599 --> 00:50:23.719 like an asshole. Look at himself looked like that. I mean, 1060 00:50:23.719 --> 00:50:24.760 you still tell you what. 1061 00:50:24.639 --> 00:50:30.239 You want to do? Stopping. No, no, no, it's Durrant. 1062 00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:33.760 Bro Durn agent speaks for him. If Durren wanted to 1063 00:50:33.800 --> 00:50:35.679 sign with the Pistons for thirty five million dollars, he 1064 00:50:35.679 --> 00:50:38.239 would be signed with the Pistons for thirty five million dollars. 1065 00:50:38.679 --> 00:50:40.719 Uh Luigi gaming with the super Chats says, why is 1066 00:50:40.760 --> 00:50:43.039 Jeff so brick for Durrant? He's in his d MS. 1067 00:50:43.119 --> 00:50:45.519 I don't know ship. I just see. 1068 00:50:45.599 --> 00:50:47.920 I just see the talent that he has, and he can. 1069 00:50:48.599 --> 00:50:50.360 But you can't pay for ship that you could see. 1070 00:50:50.440 --> 00:50:54.760 You pay for ship you could touch. Pause don cute. 1071 00:50:55.559 --> 00:50:58.559 That's why I say with them, asked me to pay 1072 00:50:58.599 --> 00:51:00.239 for something you mine. 1073 00:51:00.519 --> 00:51:02.599 With the super chat, he says, funny how every player 1074 00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:07.079 is a perfect fit. I mean every player that can score. Yeah, 1075 00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:09.159 I mean, if you if you've if you got a 1076 00:51:09.239 --> 00:51:11.239 three four that can get his own bucket and shoots 1077 00:51:11.239 --> 00:51:13.880 a high percentage from three, yeah, that's a perfect fit. 1078 00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:15.400 And on pretty much all these guys have. 1079 00:51:15.400 --> 00:51:19.280 Been yeah, trying to make fun of it being a 1080 00:51:19.280 --> 00:51:23.159 perfect fit. Brother, we got second round lest Yeah, like 1081 00:51:23.239 --> 00:51:27.079 their needs there. This team needs not once, not not 1082 00:51:27.199 --> 00:51:29.800 us what this team needs another player, this team they 1083 00:51:29.800 --> 00:51:31.480 get to stretch the floor, place within at offense. 1084 00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:33.960 It's just what do we doing? Yeah, it would be 1085 00:51:34.000 --> 00:51:37.199 great fit. All right, let's go to break. Uh, we'll 1086 00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:40.320 come back. We'll keep talking pistons because we do have 1087 00:51:40.639 --> 00:51:43.199 tangible pistons that we could talk about because I Buco 1088 00:51:43.360 --> 00:51:47.199 Cory made his NBA debut last night in the Summer League, 1089 00:51:47.440 --> 00:51:49.559 and I thought he looked damn good, but some other 1090 00:51:49.599 --> 00:51:52.079 players might not have. So we'll break down the Piston 1091 00:51:52.159 --> 00:51:55.159 Summer League game and what happened against Philly. But first 1092 00:51:55.199 --> 00:51:57.400 we gotta double up, I believe. So tell us about 1093 00:51:57.480 --> 00:51:59.400 mortgage real quick, real quick, because we do got what 1094 00:51:59.440 --> 00:52:01.519 the three minutes quick? Yeah? So chl Larry. 1095 00:52:01.800 --> 00:52:03.880 Larry is if your boss promised you money the year 1096 00:52:03.920 --> 00:52:05.559 before by saying, all you have to do is prove 1097 00:52:05.599 --> 00:52:09.239 yourself and then you wouldn't wait and then you do it, 1098 00:52:09.360 --> 00:52:10.960 wouldn't you be mad if you didn't get paid. 1099 00:52:11.000 --> 00:52:14.039 He's being offered. He got offered the money. 1100 00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:17.719 Yeah, he got offered more money than he was offered 1101 00:52:17.719 --> 00:52:19.679 the previous year. He was offered that money. 1102 00:52:19.719 --> 00:52:21.559 He has offered the fair amount of money that he 1103 00:52:21.679 --> 00:52:24.679 proved he was worth. And then he's the boss. The 1104 00:52:24.679 --> 00:52:25.440 boss was even cool. 1105 00:52:25.480 --> 00:52:27.280 The boss was like, you know what, you think you'll 1106 00:52:27.320 --> 00:52:29.599 be better, Like, we'll match you know't go see who's 1107 00:52:29.599 --> 00:52:30.280 willing to pay you more. 1108 00:52:30.440 --> 00:52:33.400 Yeah, and then we'll match you there and nobody else 1109 00:52:33.480 --> 00:52:39.079 is willing to do it. Yeah, Sacramento, Sacramento wasn't willing 1110 00:52:39.079 --> 00:52:41.880 to pay by mommy even post if you would have 1111 00:52:41.920 --> 00:52:45.920 had one other team in the NBA, one other team 1112 00:52:45.960 --> 00:52:48.800 in the NBA, say, Jalen durn, I believe you are 1113 00:52:48.840 --> 00:52:51.840 worth that much money. You would be making it for 1114 00:52:51.920 --> 00:52:55.280 the Pistons right now, but you didn't. And so is 1115 00:52:55.320 --> 00:52:58.119 that on the big bad Pistons or is that on 1116 00:52:58.199 --> 00:53:00.400 your own failure in the playoffs? And then what did 1117 00:53:00.400 --> 00:53:01.960 he want the hundred million doc contract to begin the 1118 00:53:02.000 --> 00:53:04.159 season last year? Right? It was twenty five millionar Yeah. 1119 00:53:04.000 --> 00:53:07.239 No, he went he wanted thirty thirty beginning the season, 1120 00:53:07.320 --> 00:53:08.159 lesson is offered. 1121 00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:09.559 Allegedly it was. 1122 00:53:09.480 --> 00:53:11.199 Thirty in the beginning of the season. Yes, I think 1123 00:53:11.239 --> 00:53:14.239 he wanted that. He wanted he wanted thirty. Oh, I 1124 00:53:14.239 --> 00:53:16.239 think it was either he wanted. I remember we did 1125 00:53:16.280 --> 00:53:17.760 the show and it was it came out saying he 1126 00:53:17.800 --> 00:53:21.440 wanted between thirty and forty million at the beginning of 1127 00:53:21.440 --> 00:53:21.760 the season. 1128 00:53:21.840 --> 00:53:24.760 I think the questions offered him twenty five. 1129 00:53:24.800 --> 00:53:25.119 I can't. 1130 00:53:25.159 --> 00:53:28.199 He wasn't worth that then, dude. And he wasn't even 1131 00:53:28.199 --> 00:53:31.440 fucking nowhere's sniffing that. I thought it was twenty four or. 1132 00:53:31.440 --> 00:53:33.519 He knew exactly what he was going to do. He 1133 00:53:33.559 --> 00:53:36.599 wanted the regular season and flill out in the playoffs. 1134 00:53:37.079 --> 00:53:39.239 All right, let's let's get a break. 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You 1199 00:56:51.880 --> 00:56:54.079 guys are the champs. Can't say anything about that, but 1200 00:56:54.159 --> 00:56:55.960 we did beat you four times buy an average of 1201 00:56:56.000 --> 00:56:58.360 thirty this year, so you got lucky. You ducked us 1202 00:56:58.360 --> 00:57:02.199 in the playoffs. Where was shit? Where was this chip? 1203 00:57:02.400 --> 00:57:06.320 For a do it effortless eighty three ninety six? He says, 1204 00:57:06.480 --> 00:57:08.880 stop being cheap. Either you believe in Duran or not. 1205 00:57:09.079 --> 00:57:11.519 If you don't believe in him, sign and trade him. 1206 00:57:11.760 --> 00:57:15.079 Get this over with. Uh No, man, that's not how 1207 00:57:15.119 --> 00:57:18.880 the NBA works anymore. Brother. You have too much at 1208 00:57:18.920 --> 00:57:22.280 stake with these aprons. If you go over the apron 1209 00:57:22.559 --> 00:57:27.480 for the wrong person, it will criminally destroy your franchise. Man, 1210 00:57:27.800 --> 00:57:31.559 you cannot just throw out forty million dollars, willy nilly, 1211 00:57:31.760 --> 00:57:34.079 Not anymore. You used to be able to get away 1212 00:57:34.079 --> 00:57:36.320 with it. Sure you can add another one, you can 1213 00:57:36.400 --> 00:57:38.639 go over the tax with the owner elite that anyways. No, 1214 00:57:39.079 --> 00:57:42.360 the Aprons will destroy your team if you go into 1215 00:57:42.400 --> 00:57:45.599 them with the wrong players. You can't just say, oh, 1216 00:57:45.679 --> 00:57:48.039 we like him, We're gonna give him forty million. Not anymore. 1217 00:57:48.320 --> 00:57:50.039 That's how the league was. Mike Conley was getting one 1218 00:57:50.079 --> 00:57:52.599 hundred and twenty million dollar contracts. Not anymore. 1219 00:57:53.639 --> 00:57:55.519 I mean the Boston Celtics had to get rid of 1220 00:57:55.599 --> 00:57:58.400 Jalen Jaylen Brown for the reason that these Aprons were 1221 00:57:58.480 --> 00:58:01.480 that serious they were. They had to find a way 1222 00:58:01.559 --> 00:58:04.679 to clear up the catch space to actually have a team, 1223 00:58:05.360 --> 00:58:08.800 and Brown was the calesier team or that, because you 1224 00:58:08.840 --> 00:58:11.480 can't have two players making over three hundred million dollars 1225 00:58:11.519 --> 00:58:12.159 on the same team. 1226 00:58:13.039 --> 00:58:16.239 They literally had an MVP candidate last year. And then 1227 00:58:16.360 --> 00:58:18.199 they said, you know what, we have to get rid 1228 00:58:18.239 --> 00:58:19.159 of the ships. 1229 00:58:19.320 --> 00:58:21.079 If you want to get paid paid, I gotta know 1230 00:58:21.159 --> 00:58:23.239 what you're gonna be, not hope, what you're gonna be, Yes, 1231 00:58:23.719 --> 00:58:24.400 you gotta touch it. 1232 00:58:24.840 --> 00:58:27.719 That's why I feel like that thirty thirty five tenth 1233 00:58:27.840 --> 00:58:29.079 best center in the NBA. 1234 00:58:29.320 --> 00:58:31.800 Like as far as contract goes, that feels fair. 1235 00:58:32.000 --> 00:58:34.639 Like that feels because there's a boom or bust to it, 1236 00:58:35.079 --> 00:58:37.159 Like he could be he could end up being the 1237 00:58:38.440 --> 00:58:41.719 twentieth best playoffs center, or he could be the or 1238 00:58:41.840 --> 00:58:44.159 he could be, you know, like a top five center 1239 00:58:44.199 --> 00:58:44.639 in the NBA. 1240 00:58:44.760 --> 00:58:47.159 Like he looked for stretches during the regular season. 1241 00:58:47.599 --> 00:58:50.559 So I think that right now it's a very fair 1242 00:58:50.679 --> 00:58:53.000 contract for Jalen during I think he should take it. 1243 00:58:53.079 --> 00:58:53.960 I think he will take it. 1244 00:58:54.039 --> 00:58:56.880 I don't see him doing the yes too man, because 1245 00:58:57.079 --> 00:58:59.920 he's gonna he's gonna take thirty five million dollars a year. 1246 00:59:02.039 --> 00:59:04.320 Spare me if I don't feel bad for guy making 1247 00:59:04.360 --> 00:59:08.280 thirty five million dollars a year. But and then at 1248 00:59:08.320 --> 00:59:10.639 the end of that contract, when he's I don't know, 1249 00:59:11.159 --> 00:59:15.199 twenty five, twenty six years old, he'll if he is 1250 00:59:15.360 --> 00:59:18.519 truly worth it and he truly develops and he becomes 1251 00:59:19.119 --> 00:59:22.079 this demi god type bill, then he'll make forty million 1252 00:59:22.079 --> 00:59:25.119 dollars a year. Do what comes back to the finder's take, 1253 00:59:25.199 --> 00:59:27.639 This is my point. Looks bad. It looks bad. 1254 00:59:27.719 --> 00:59:29.000 You don't want to be doing as that chief team 1255 00:59:29.119 --> 00:59:31.440 kay kennyem got paid. Yeah, I k they were. They 1256 00:59:31.480 --> 00:59:33.360 weren't cheap with Kunny and they pay k Cunny handsomely. 1257 00:59:33.400 --> 00:59:36.239 I know, I because Kate Cunym fucking deserved it. K 1258 00:59:36.400 --> 00:59:39.320 Cunym earned it. Nobody's looking at the pissos of their 1259 00:59:39.360 --> 00:59:42.360 cheap asses. But that's that's smart management. I wouldn't want 1260 00:59:42.360 --> 00:59:44.519 to because nobody want to fucking pay John Drt anyway. 1261 00:59:45.559 --> 00:59:47.920 He's not looking cheap man. He's not worth the money 1262 00:59:48.400 --> 00:59:50.159 he gave Kate a little sprinkle on top of that too. 1263 00:59:50.320 --> 00:59:54.679 I mean what it's other teams is available restricted free agent. 1264 00:59:54.719 --> 00:59:55.679 You can offer Jalen Durton. 1265 00:59:55.679 --> 00:59:58.159 You can pay Jalen Durn, we can sign trade for 1266 00:59:58.239 --> 01:00:00.400 Jalen durn Nobody wants to do it because it's not 1267 01:00:00.559 --> 01:00:01.280 worth that money. 1268 01:00:01.840 --> 01:00:04.039 It's not hard, it's not a bad look. See what 1269 01:00:04.159 --> 01:00:06.840 it is. The market dictates it. You couldn't even sign 1270 01:00:06.920 --> 01:00:09.800 and trade him. Teams weren't willing to. Now. 1271 01:00:09.840 --> 01:00:12.480 I think he's getting horrible advice from his his whole team, 1272 01:00:12.960 --> 01:00:16.079 like the not thinking that this is market value and 1273 01:00:16.119 --> 01:00:17.639 this is what you're going to earn, and this is 1274 01:00:18.079 --> 01:00:19.519 the best that you're gonna earn from. 1275 01:00:19.440 --> 01:00:21.239 Any of you think Wimby's team was like Womby, you 1276 01:00:21.239 --> 01:00:23.039 should take less. Womby's I want to take less. 1277 01:00:25.119 --> 01:00:29.719 You can't. You're doing that way too much. Like he's 1278 01:00:29.719 --> 01:00:32.760 a part of his team. It's on him. It comes 1279 01:00:32.840 --> 01:00:35.760 down to, it's on him, and especially. 1280 01:00:35.480 --> 01:00:38.280 Now, like I honestly would be shocked if this deal 1281 01:00:38.360 --> 01:00:40.320 isn't done in the next coming days here because look, 1282 01:00:40.559 --> 01:00:43.119 the Pistons made their moves, like their numbers are set, 1283 01:00:43.519 --> 01:00:46.599 like that's it. We have this range of money we 1284 01:00:46.639 --> 01:00:50.559 can offer you, and you know what, maybe like if 1285 01:00:50.760 --> 01:00:52.920 if you really, if you really hate this contractor and 1286 01:00:52.960 --> 01:00:55.320 if you really think you're underpaid, that take the qualifying 1287 01:00:55.360 --> 01:00:58.840 offer or negotiate shorter term, say hey, I want to 1288 01:00:58.880 --> 01:01:02.119 do two or three years of instead of uh, instead 1289 01:01:02.119 --> 01:01:04.239 of five. I think the pisses would probably do that 1290 01:01:04.480 --> 01:01:08.559 because the pisses aren't fully confident in paying you max money, 1291 01:01:08.639 --> 01:01:10.880 because they would have offered it to you if they could, 1292 01:01:11.000 --> 01:01:11.280 so I. 1293 01:01:11.360 --> 01:01:13.920 Think that anybody would have. Yeah, yeah, I think that it's. 1294 01:01:13.800 --> 01:01:16.880 A scenario where look, Jalen Dring, there are multiple ways out. 1295 01:01:16.960 --> 01:01:18.960 You should get it done. Because now the pisses have 1296 01:01:19.039 --> 01:01:21.559 made their moves. We we know that they're pretty much 1297 01:01:21.760 --> 01:01:23.679 inactive for the rest of the for the rest of 1298 01:01:23.719 --> 01:01:26.039 the offseason, or at least we expect right now. Yeah, 1299 01:01:26.199 --> 01:01:29.280 given their financial situations, you know the range you can offer. 1300 01:01:29.599 --> 01:01:33.199 Let's just let's just get this done, or or just 1301 01:01:33.360 --> 01:01:35.480 man up and take the qualifying offer and roll and 1302 01:01:35.559 --> 01:01:36.360 see what it rolls with. 1303 01:01:37.000 --> 01:01:39.079 I think he's gonna sign the deal. I think so too. 1304 01:01:39.719 --> 01:01:41.159 It would be. I think it would be. I think 1305 01:01:41.199 --> 01:01:41.760 it would be dumb. 1306 01:01:41.840 --> 01:01:43.000 Not too, I think so too. 1307 01:01:43.079 --> 01:01:45.360 I think, like you said, the perfect point is that 1308 01:01:45.519 --> 01:01:47.719 you are twenty five, twenty six, and if you want 1309 01:01:47.719 --> 01:01:50.519 to hold this grudge for four years, fall out, yeah 1310 01:01:50.519 --> 01:01:51.480 and then and then. 1311 01:01:53.119 --> 01:01:55.599 Yeah, and then go sign the Lakers for the king 1312 01:01:56.400 --> 01:01:59.039 so much and to the point of like the relationship 1313 01:01:59.039 --> 01:02:00.920 getting worse. I saw some comment shot to you guys, 1314 01:02:00.960 --> 01:02:03.719 but like it's because you're not mature enough to understand 1315 01:02:04.480 --> 01:02:06.639 you aren't worth that money. Yeah, that's what it is. 1316 01:02:07.320 --> 01:02:12.079 Like we've they you're allowed to shop yourself, dude, Nobody 1317 01:02:12.119 --> 01:02:13.800 wanted to pay you that goddamn money. 1318 01:02:14.400 --> 01:02:16.840 Savant made, says low balling JD, but don't want to 1319 01:02:16.880 --> 01:02:19.280 trade him. Is why free agents don't come to Detroit 1320 01:02:19.360 --> 01:02:22.039 it's somebody else has to want the fucking guy. I 1321 01:02:22.079 --> 01:02:24.360 don't understand, guys, what part of that are you understanding? 1322 01:02:26.199 --> 01:02:28.159 To sign him, then he had to trade for him. 1323 01:02:28.800 --> 01:02:30.840 He was restricted free agent, and yeah, we could have matched. 1324 01:02:30.840 --> 01:02:32.760 It should have matched, would have matched probably, but it 1325 01:02:32.880 --> 01:02:34.559 was out he was out there. You could have offered 1326 01:02:34.599 --> 01:02:37.760 him a offer sheet. No one did it. 1327 01:02:38.320 --> 01:02:39.199 No one did it. 1328 01:02:39.320 --> 01:02:43.719 So every single GM in literally literally every single GM 1329 01:02:44.079 --> 01:02:47.400 in the NBA has it out for Jalen durt That's 1330 01:02:47.400 --> 01:02:49.519 what you're testing, you guys in the chatter telling us 1331 01:02:49.599 --> 01:02:52.519 is that every single GM in the NBA is like, 1332 01:02:52.639 --> 01:02:54.239 he's the one that we're gonna low ball. 1333 01:02:55.239 --> 01:02:58.559 Then you have to get something worth value back, like 1334 01:02:58.679 --> 01:03:01.599 the bonus what I've done it Sure, sure, just. 1335 01:03:01.559 --> 01:03:03.119 Because I didn't want to lose Durham for nothing. But 1336 01:03:03.239 --> 01:03:05.800 is it something you want it? No? No, no, And 1337 01:03:05.920 --> 01:03:08.920 it's okay, like not everybody is a MAX player in 1338 01:03:09.000 --> 01:03:12.679 this league. He's not cake on yet. It's pretty much 1339 01:03:12.760 --> 01:03:13.920 clear and simple. Shout. 1340 01:03:13.960 --> 01:03:15.960 The DNA says, if hating on a player to do 1341 01:03:16.119 --> 01:03:18.840 fucking better in the playoffs that makes a player leave, 1342 01:03:18.920 --> 01:03:19.280 than okay. 1343 01:03:21.079 --> 01:03:23.599 If, like I said, if Duran went went out there 1344 01:03:23.639 --> 01:03:25.519 and was putting up twenty and twenty in the playoffs 1345 01:03:25.559 --> 01:03:27.840 a couple of games, he would have got forty million, 1346 01:03:28.079 --> 01:03:29.639 no doubt, no doubt. 1347 01:03:29.719 --> 01:03:31.840 I would have got the buddy didn't said they could 1348 01:03:31.880 --> 01:03:32.239 have gave you. 1349 01:03:32.800 --> 01:03:35.840 But he did not. Unfortunately, I wish he did. I 1350 01:03:35.920 --> 01:03:38.079 wish we were sitting here saying we just signed the 1351 01:03:38.199 --> 01:03:41.519 best young center in the NBA to a max contract. 1352 01:03:41.559 --> 01:03:43.400 He's gonna be a piston for life. Look at what 1353 01:03:43.480 --> 01:03:45.639 they did in the playoffs. They're only gonna get better. 1354 01:03:45.880 --> 01:03:47.559 Unfortunately that ship didn't happen. 1355 01:03:47.800 --> 01:03:51.559 We'd be NBA champions. Yes, yes, we'd be the NBA champions. 1356 01:03:51.599 --> 01:03:53.599 If he was putting up twenty and twenty, we probably 1357 01:03:53.639 --> 01:03:58.599 would be tell him and he got like cool taking 1358 01:03:58.679 --> 01:03:59.079 Durham bag. 1359 01:03:59.360 --> 01:04:01.320 I got still like during this team is just like 1360 01:04:01.360 --> 01:04:03.119 you gotta know you're worth, shut your mouth and know 1361 01:04:03.199 --> 01:04:04.480 your role with as a Rock would say. 1362 01:04:04.519 --> 01:04:07.400 And again, man, you can like you can hold this 1363 01:04:07.519 --> 01:04:09.280 as a grudge in three to four years from now 1364 01:04:09.280 --> 01:04:11.960 if you really feel like you got disrespected as a man, 1365 01:04:12.039 --> 01:04:16.039 that go ahead, walk out. But like Jayalen Duran, take 1366 01:04:16.199 --> 01:04:18.400 the money, like just take it man, or. 1367 01:04:18.440 --> 01:04:22.000 Take the qualifying offer and then or better on yourself 1368 01:04:22.079 --> 01:04:23.559 if you don't think thirty five is. 1369 01:04:23.639 --> 01:04:27.199 Enough, finete, says the Celtics looked at what Darren want 1370 01:04:27.239 --> 01:04:29.440 and said, fuck that, we're going to. 1371 01:04:29.880 --> 01:04:33.239 He had two meetings with the Lakers, two meetings and 1372 01:04:33.360 --> 01:04:37.519 then they signed Walker Kessler for three. He was looking 1373 01:04:37.599 --> 01:04:40.639 for too much money from any team in the NBA. 1374 01:04:40.840 --> 01:04:42.440 That's why he didn't get an offer sheet. 1375 01:04:42.760 --> 01:04:44.639 And I think if Walker Kestler had k Cunny and 1376 01:04:44.679 --> 01:04:47.320 he'd be thirteen NBA as well and the Lakers. 1377 01:04:47.800 --> 01:04:49.320 I thought that the day I felt dirty about it. 1378 01:04:49.320 --> 01:04:50.880 I asked whatever people like, No, that's fair. 1379 01:04:51.199 --> 01:04:53.679 The Lakers also said, you know what, not only doing 1380 01:04:53.760 --> 01:04:56.920 Walt Walker Kessler, but here are all our draft capital too. 1381 01:04:57.199 --> 01:04:59.440 Here's here you go, you tah. That's how much they 1382 01:04:59.519 --> 01:05:01.400 didn't want Jalen Duran at the end of the day. 1383 01:05:01.480 --> 01:05:04.519 So it's the market that was playing. This isn't something 1384 01:05:04.599 --> 01:05:08.119 that This isn't something that the pisses are villains for, 1385 01:05:08.599 --> 01:05:10.920 Like the pissons have expressed the entire time that they 1386 01:05:10.960 --> 01:05:13.400 want Jalen during back. Yeah, so I don't think that 1387 01:05:13.559 --> 01:05:15.920 Jalen Duran has a right to be pissed at the 1388 01:05:16.000 --> 01:05:16.719 Pistols at all. 1389 01:05:17.000 --> 01:05:20.480 It's the entire NBA now, it's it's there. There is 1390 01:05:20.639 --> 01:05:22.719 absolutely no reason for him to be upset with the 1391 01:05:22.719 --> 01:05:25.920 Pistons being more than there. He is absolutely he and 1392 01:05:26.039 --> 01:05:30.880 he he even said he literally told him, we will 1393 01:05:31.000 --> 01:05:34.639 match anything anybody's willing to pay you. So if you 1394 01:05:34.880 --> 01:05:39.719 find somebody, one person, one single person in the world 1395 01:05:40.360 --> 01:05:43.400 willing to pay you more money than I am, we 1396 01:05:43.559 --> 01:05:47.559 will pay you that amount of money. He couldn't. End 1397 01:05:47.599 --> 01:05:51.559 of story. It's not the Pistons are big bad, it's 1398 01:05:51.800 --> 01:05:54.800 you are worth what someone will pay you and any 1399 01:05:54.920 --> 01:05:58.639 profession I saw DNC say, that's not how worse these days. 1400 01:05:58.880 --> 01:05:59.400 That's house. 1401 01:05:59.599 --> 01:06:02.519 He's got a Lakers because the Pistons were this is 1402 01:06:02.519 --> 01:06:04.760 about the pay and then they had up Dancy to 1403 01:06:04.840 --> 01:06:05.719 forty six million. 1404 01:06:10.159 --> 01:06:13.280 Let's go to break, let's reset, We'll come that positive stuff, 1405 01:06:13.360 --> 01:06:16.480 positive stuff, positive, super fucking positive stuff. 1406 01:06:18.119 --> 01:06:21.280 Show we're saying, I know, we're saying coming back from break, 1407 01:06:21.320 --> 01:06:23.480 we're saying, we're saying, we're going straight slapping mode. 1408 01:06:24.599 --> 01:06:28.079 His name is Abuka. 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Maybe you don't like get punched 1424 01:07:20.880 --> 01:07:22.400 in the face and you want to make you know, 1425 01:07:22.559 --> 01:07:25.639 you like the theatricals and the storylines, and if you 1426 01:07:25.800 --> 01:07:28.119 have an avenue here, maybe you start at one and 1427 01:07:28.199 --> 01:07:30.039 then want to change the other. I don't care. 1428 01:07:30.280 --> 01:07:32.360 I just want you in the building and know that 1429 01:07:32.440 --> 01:07:35.039 you have some place to go to explore that. 1430 01:07:35.239 --> 01:07:38.000 Just having the ability to what do you want to 1431 01:07:38.039 --> 01:07:39.159 do and how do you want to do it to 1432 01:07:39.199 --> 01:07:41.760 the best of your ability? And you know it to me, 1433 01:07:41.840 --> 01:07:42.800 it all starts with the kids. 1434 01:07:49.000 --> 01:07:51.920 The hunting season is almost to your Detroit and your 1435 01:07:52.039 --> 01:07:56.039 lions are on the prow. Make sure you're locked into 1436 01:07:56.079 --> 01:08:00.760 Woodward Sports for all the Dan Campbell reactions, Jared god touchdowns, 1437 01:08:00.880 --> 01:08:04.960 I'm and Roth first downs, Ny Pancakes, Kirmy picks, Gimm's 1438 01:08:05.039 --> 01:08:08.360 big plays, and of course Jack Fox his leg Yes, 1439 01:08:08.440 --> 01:08:11.119 Jay locked in on all your lines coverage right here 1440 01:08:11.320 --> 01:08:14.400 on Detroit's number one sports network. 1441 01:08:14.639 --> 01:08:15.440 Sports. 1442 01:08:19.960 --> 01:08:22.039 Artin Jakes, Ladies Gump is my spot. I'm gonna be 1443 01:08:22.079 --> 01:08:25.079 there for the UFC fights tomorrow and the NFL season. 1444 01:08:25.079 --> 01:08:26.399 I'm there as well when I don't have to do 1445 01:08:26.439 --> 01:08:28.079 the watch prize, of course. And I'm there because they 1446 01:08:28.159 --> 01:08:29.920 got the best food in the biz, all right. They 1447 01:08:30.000 --> 01:08:32.199 got the greyst deals as well to twenty two beers 1448 01:08:32.199 --> 01:08:37.079 on tap, ninety menu items, fan favorites, Absolute best Fine, 1449 01:08:37.159 --> 01:08:40.760 Donny Flavor of sports Bars, singing Arton Jakes, we. 1450 01:08:40.840 --> 01:08:43.279 Got a super chat in there from Ricky BP from 1451 01:08:43.319 --> 01:08:46.520 the day Listen. We might not agree in all you 1452 01:08:46.600 --> 01:08:50.279 know walks of this chat, but I do respect all 1453 01:08:50.279 --> 01:08:52.119 you guys from being in here, and it's sports. You're 1454 01:08:52.159 --> 01:08:55.119 not gonna agree, but this is his words. This is 1455 01:08:55.199 --> 01:08:57.880 not my word. Shout out. He say for easy spent, 1456 01:08:58.960 --> 01:09:03.760 easy spending, I got you, STU. Patrols are useless gooners. 1457 01:09:04.279 --> 01:09:08.199 Durren cost himself money. Just because you're eligible for a 1458 01:09:08.319 --> 01:09:11.159 MAX does not mean you earned it. No team is 1459 01:09:11.239 --> 01:09:14.119 paying him that STFU. So that was That was Ricky 1460 01:09:14.239 --> 01:09:17.000 VP from the d's words again, but also thank you, Ricky, 1461 01:09:17.079 --> 01:09:18.119 but thank you. You're right. 1462 01:09:18.319 --> 01:09:19.840 You know, maybe I don't want to be that. I 1463 01:09:19.880 --> 01:09:21.840 don't want to be the asshole every time. I really don't, 1464 01:09:21.880 --> 01:09:24.439 and then our opinions we could be wrong. But pretty 1465 01:09:24.479 --> 01:09:26.720 damn sort of this one. I mean, the NBA GM's 1466 01:09:26.720 --> 01:09:27.399 feel the same way. 1467 01:09:27.880 --> 01:09:31.720 Yeah, I feel I feel good aligning with all NBA gms. 1468 01:09:32.159 --> 01:09:35.600 Yeah yeah, we got it right, yeah collectively. I mean, 1469 01:09:35.640 --> 01:09:37.439 the only think that scares me is that Sacramento is 1470 01:09:37.479 --> 01:09:40.920 on our side too. Well, Sacramento kind of not. 1471 01:09:41.039 --> 01:09:44.600 They entertained it, they just couldn't do it without trading anyone. 1472 01:09:44.680 --> 01:09:46.640 And we didn't want fucking sibonus on a forty six 1473 01:09:46.680 --> 01:09:47.520 million dollars contract. 1474 01:09:47.680 --> 01:09:51.239 They were like, nah, what was good? 1475 01:09:51.359 --> 01:09:53.359 We also except what they offered. Oh they didn't even 1476 01:09:53.359 --> 01:09:55.159 offer them though, you're right, but they could afford them. 1477 01:09:55.439 --> 01:10:01.680 Tell us, tell us what we did. Listen, man, Listen, listen, listen, listen. 1478 01:10:01.800 --> 01:10:07.359 I haven't been this excited about a Detroit Pistons prospect. 1479 01:10:08.199 --> 01:10:08.960 Since Kate Cunny. 1480 01:10:10.000 --> 01:10:13.159 I'm being dead ass. And then you go and watch 1481 01:10:13.760 --> 01:10:16.199 Abukah Corey in this game last night. I had to 1482 01:10:16.239 --> 01:10:18.079 go home watching an NBA TV because we're digging around 1483 01:10:18.079 --> 01:10:19.479 here trying to get it set up and everything like that. 1484 01:10:20.079 --> 01:10:23.800 But he also delivered you everything that was promised, everything 1485 01:10:23.920 --> 01:10:26.039 that you bought him for. You're invested in him for 1486 01:10:26.159 --> 01:10:28.159 the draft, pick and trade enough to get him. That's 1487 01:10:28.159 --> 01:10:29.920 what you saw on the floor last night. That's just 1488 01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:33.880 the smooth handles, clean, not turn the ball over. I 1489 01:10:33.920 --> 01:10:35.640 think last night the coaches there are like, we need 1490 01:10:35.720 --> 01:10:38.199 you to play point guard. By the way, only one 1491 01:10:38.319 --> 01:10:40.960 year playing point He's a shooting guard in high school. 1492 01:10:41.600 --> 01:10:43.840 Only one year playing point guard. Like that's why they're 1493 01:10:43.880 --> 01:10:46.600 forcing it in summer League. He showed you he can 1494 01:10:46.680 --> 01:10:48.920 do it playmaking. And then when he's like fuck this, 1495 01:10:49.319 --> 01:10:52.800 I'm going to that right hand, Oh my god, oh Mike, 1496 01:10:52.960 --> 01:10:55.680 he's better than Jaden Ivy and Jady Ivy's a fifth 1497 01:10:55.720 --> 01:10:57.159 overall pick. This class was insane. 1498 01:10:57.239 --> 01:10:58.880 He's a lot more skilled. I'm not gonna book and 1499 01:10:59.039 --> 01:11:00.640 knocking down the three because this lead to it. They 1500 01:11:00.680 --> 01:11:03.560 was what two for five? Yeah, last night he was 1501 01:11:03.680 --> 01:11:06.720 the you know, the acc point leader last year. His 1502 01:11:06.760 --> 01:11:09.760 stocks last night, Yeah, the guy gets buckets. He they 1503 01:11:09.880 --> 01:11:12.199 talked about, you know, his active hands in passing lanes, 1504 01:11:12.239 --> 01:11:14.680 which was on his scouting report as well. But he 1505 01:11:14.840 --> 01:11:19.000 talked about himself being disruptive and wanting to be a 1506 01:11:19.079 --> 01:11:21.760 player that could be disruptive defensively, which he felt he did. 1507 01:11:21.840 --> 01:11:23.640 And yeah, it is the summer league, but it's good 1508 01:11:23.680 --> 01:11:26.880 to see him go out there. And you saw the 1509 01:11:27.000 --> 01:11:30.399 skills that were advertised be too much for the summer 1510 01:11:30.479 --> 01:11:33.119 league to handle, which is what you need. The speed 1511 01:11:33.359 --> 01:11:36.880 was there finishing amongst the trees. I know it's summer league. 1512 01:11:37.000 --> 01:11:39.920 Those guys are still six eight seven feet tall that 1513 01:11:39.960 --> 01:11:42.119 he's finishing around. And there were a couple of tough 1514 01:11:42.199 --> 01:11:44.279 buckets that he hit in the lane that I really liked. 1515 01:11:44.640 --> 01:11:47.319 The way he was getting defenders on his hip, probing, 1516 01:11:47.600 --> 01:11:50.680 getting contact. These are all things that you didn't have 1517 01:11:51.039 --> 01:11:54.920 and not a single person on your roster outside of 1518 01:11:55.000 --> 01:11:58.359 Kate Cunningham could do last year, So it was impressive 1519 01:11:58.399 --> 01:12:01.479 to see that he's got obvious continue to show that. 1520 01:12:01.720 --> 01:12:04.119 And I agree with you, Easy. I think the Pistons 1521 01:12:04.239 --> 01:12:07.079 coaching staff said, could he go out there and drop 1522 01:12:07.159 --> 01:12:09.399 forty if he just shot the ball thirty times like 1523 01:12:09.479 --> 01:12:12.199 Darius Acuff did, No shade, that's my guy. I want 1524 01:12:12.279 --> 01:12:14.720 him to be better. But yeah, he could have, but 1525 01:12:14.840 --> 01:12:17.000 they wanted to see how he would do running the show, 1526 01:12:17.119 --> 01:12:18.960 because he's going to be running the show off of 1527 01:12:19.039 --> 01:12:22.199 the bench for the Pistons. And as Easy pointed out, 1528 01:12:22.479 --> 01:12:24.560 the handle was tight. There were a few turnovers, he 1529 01:12:24.680 --> 01:12:27.680 was making the right decision and I loved the things 1530 01:12:27.720 --> 01:12:29.079 I saw from him. Absolutely. 1531 01:12:29.159 --> 01:12:31.720 It was the control that he played with, the way 1532 01:12:31.800 --> 01:12:34.000 that he had a feel for the game, and we 1533 01:12:34.199 --> 01:12:37.000 know that very well in Detroit because almost nobody in 1534 01:12:37.039 --> 01:12:39.079 the NBA does that better than k kut him. And 1535 01:12:39.239 --> 01:12:41.560 he showed a shade of a shade of that of 1536 01:12:41.640 --> 01:12:44.880 feeling when to pick his spots, being passive in the 1537 01:12:44.920 --> 01:12:46.920 first half at least in terms of shooting, and then 1538 01:12:47.000 --> 01:12:48.920 kind of forcing the issue in the second half. So 1539 01:12:49.039 --> 01:12:52.359 I thought that he was great decision making. I thought 1540 01:12:52.439 --> 01:12:55.359 his discipline just was great. He was making all of 1541 01:12:55.399 --> 01:12:57.079 the reason he was doing the right things. He was 1542 01:12:57.079 --> 01:12:58.920 putting him on the hip. He was sprayed it out 1543 01:12:58.960 --> 01:12:59.479 to the corner. 1544 01:12:59.640 --> 01:12:59.840 Yeah. 1545 01:13:00.199 --> 01:13:02.079 Was he was dropping it off to the big who 1546 01:13:02.239 --> 01:13:03.319 didn't have hands. 1547 01:13:03.159 --> 01:13:04.800 Like he was a couple of times. 1548 01:13:04.880 --> 01:13:10.239 Yeah, you could have had double looks like yeah, he could. 1549 01:13:12.319 --> 01:13:13.000 Off the dribble. 1550 01:13:13.359 --> 01:13:17.199 You know what I'm saying, anybody else step back, yes, 1551 01:13:17.359 --> 01:13:20.960 like this. I'm excited, man, I'm excited. Yes, like you said, 1552 01:13:20.960 --> 01:13:23.439 it great easy. It's everything that was showcase on the 1553 01:13:23.520 --> 01:13:26.560 tape was confirmed. Like, that's what I That's what I 1554 01:13:26.640 --> 01:13:27.079 loved about. 1555 01:13:27.119 --> 01:13:29.840 The creativity, the finishing at the rim, the smoothness of 1556 01:13:29.880 --> 01:13:32.600 the step back, the gathering the handle. It was all 1557 01:13:32.800 --> 01:13:35.720 very It was all very good. The discipline. I love 1558 01:13:35.760 --> 01:13:38.039 where where his head's at. Like I mean, the fact 1559 01:13:38.079 --> 01:13:40.640 that he came in and in his press conference one 1560 01:13:40.680 --> 01:13:42.680 of the things he highlighted was that I don't turn 1561 01:13:42.760 --> 01:13:45.760 the ball over. That's very un That's very rare for 1562 01:13:45.840 --> 01:13:48.319 a for an eighteen year old kid to come up 1563 01:13:48.359 --> 01:13:50.039 there and not say, oh yeah, I feel like I 1564 01:13:50.079 --> 01:13:51.840 could I could score at the next level. I feel 1565 01:13:51.840 --> 01:13:53.199 like I can help you at the He said, no, 1566 01:13:53.720 --> 01:13:55.600 I will take care of the ball at the next level. 1567 01:13:55.720 --> 01:13:59.640 That was really impressive to the defense. The defense man, 1568 01:14:00.239 --> 01:14:05.319 I just I'm jump lanes steels. It's very hard not 1569 01:14:05.399 --> 01:14:07.520 to buy into it because I want to, like I 1570 01:14:07.640 --> 01:14:09.199 want to just go all in and say that this 1571 01:14:09.279 --> 01:14:11.560 guy is offensively the Robin Decaide one day. 1572 01:14:11.600 --> 01:14:13.640 But I think you impressed me. 1573 01:14:13.840 --> 01:14:15.840 Is like Spinica the thirteen and a half points per 1574 01:14:15.880 --> 01:14:17.880 game this year every thirteen three. 1575 01:14:19.600 --> 01:14:23.960 Sorry, that's true. It is true. I remember get it 1576 01:14:24.039 --> 01:14:26.960 right and a point two. You could come back to fight. 1577 01:14:27.159 --> 01:14:29.000 I think you could do it. I think I think 1578 01:14:29.000 --> 01:14:29.399 you could do it. 1579 01:14:29.439 --> 01:14:31.239 I think it's gould be given every opportunity to do so. 1580 01:14:31.359 --> 01:14:33.600 Like Dannis is probably sweat and watching that bitch. 1581 01:14:34.279 --> 01:14:35.840 Danis doesn't play with that controller. 1582 01:14:35.920 --> 01:14:39.960 No, the control, the poise, And like I said, what 1583 01:14:40.119 --> 01:14:43.199 stood out to me the most on his tape, which 1584 01:14:43.239 --> 01:14:45.199 is what stood out to me the most on k 1585 01:14:45.359 --> 01:14:49.760 Cunningham's tape as well, is the NBA level shot making 1586 01:14:50.399 --> 01:14:54.039 the in the lane with three people around you, still 1587 01:14:54.119 --> 01:14:57.079 getting the layup up and in the leaner to the left, 1588 01:14:57.199 --> 01:15:00.720 hitting it off your foot, the pump, fake reset like 1589 01:15:00.880 --> 01:15:03.920 that stuff. That's how you get buckets in the league. 1590 01:15:04.239 --> 01:15:07.239 In college anybody can run and dunk, anybody can hit 1591 01:15:07.319 --> 01:15:09.279 open threes, you can get out in transition. It's a 1592 01:15:09.319 --> 01:15:14.439 lot sloppier in the NBA, specifically in the playoffs. Tough buckets, 1593 01:15:14.880 --> 01:15:18.800 ugly buckets, contested buckets. That's how you win games. And 1594 01:15:18.920 --> 01:15:21.439 that's what he did at an extremely high level. And 1595 01:15:21.560 --> 01:15:23.439 I know, again it's just the summer league, but he 1596 01:15:23.560 --> 01:15:25.039 was doing it at this level too. 1597 01:15:25.399 --> 01:15:28.880 Yeah, it's gonna be a learning curve as he enters 1598 01:15:28.960 --> 01:15:32.960 the true NBA season, but he's going to end up 1599 01:15:33.119 --> 01:15:36.640 in fourth quarters closing the game with Kate Gunning, Yes, 1600 01:15:36.920 --> 01:15:38.840 And they're gonna start to do that right away because 1601 01:15:38.840 --> 01:15:42.279 this kid, he has a special talent of putting the 1602 01:15:42.359 --> 01:15:45.119 ball inside the bucket. Like when I looked at his game, 1603 01:15:45.640 --> 01:15:47.920 one of the things that stood out to me was 1604 01:15:48.000 --> 01:15:49.680 the way he split defenders. 1605 01:15:50.199 --> 01:15:52.359 And it wasn't just two, it was three. 1606 01:15:52.720 --> 01:15:55.439 He'd get past the original guy, which is it's hard 1607 01:15:55.479 --> 01:15:57.239 to stay in front of someone that is that quick 1608 01:15:57.520 --> 01:16:02.520 and can move within the pocket of the defense and 1609 01:16:02.680 --> 01:16:06.399 just that little tryum comfortably comfortably with a great handle 1610 01:16:06.800 --> 01:16:07.880 and not out of control. 1611 01:16:08.760 --> 01:16:10.039 Control is one thing. 1612 01:16:10.359 --> 01:16:14.119 He pushes the ball past the defenders and then literally 1613 01:16:14.279 --> 01:16:16.560 just goes out and gets it. Just literally I'm faster, 1614 01:16:16.640 --> 01:16:18.479 I'll get to that spot before you, and then I'm 1615 01:16:18.479 --> 01:16:19.359 gonna finish with the layer. 1616 01:16:19.399 --> 01:16:21.000 And then the thing too, is like I'm just thinking 1617 01:16:21.000 --> 01:16:23.520 about like we gotta sorry, We're like we're hoping he 1618 01:16:23.520 --> 01:16:25.680 can shoot. We hope we could do this ron he 1619 01:16:25.760 --> 01:16:29.359 can develop into this Like this is literally early about Yes, 1620 01:16:29.520 --> 01:16:33.359 you know everything you invested into he showcased. It's one 1621 01:16:33.399 --> 01:16:36.079 summer league game, it is, but you will my goal 1622 01:16:36.159 --> 01:16:38.039 out there for my rookies when I want you to 1623 01:16:38.079 --> 01:16:39.680 look like you don't belong, Yes, and I feel you 1624 01:16:39.760 --> 01:16:41.439 did for the most part, especially in his first game 1625 01:16:41.560 --> 01:16:43.319 nineteen years old, twenty points. 1626 01:16:43.199 --> 01:16:45.439 And he could have had more and going in and 1627 01:16:45.600 --> 01:16:48.720 going in the chest to fuck you trade, just stacking 1628 01:16:49.000 --> 01:16:53.960 efficient bucket getters like he is building the light side 1629 01:16:54.000 --> 01:16:57.359 of the force against this this this awful brand of 1630 01:16:57.439 --> 01:17:00.479 basketball that's taking over the league. And even in him 1631 01:17:00.560 --> 01:17:03.399 Abuka like obviously he's not gonna get the calls right away, 1632 01:17:03.439 --> 01:17:05.760 but coming off the bench as a first round draft 1633 01:17:05.800 --> 01:17:08.079 pick leading the second unit, you'll get a better call 1634 01:17:08.159 --> 01:17:11.000 than some people. And he can draw fouts and they 1635 01:17:11.079 --> 01:17:13.119 were picking up full court yes, at least when we 1636 01:17:13.159 --> 01:17:16.119 were watching here. Can't stand in front of him. I 1637 01:17:16.199 --> 01:17:21.359 don't know. I really like him, and we talked about 1638 01:17:22.079 --> 01:17:24.720 in the end of playoff games last year Danis was 1639 01:17:24.760 --> 01:17:28.399 out there closing the game out because because Usar or 1640 01:17:28.479 --> 01:17:31.279 I mean, because Duncan Robinson, you know, is getting hunted 1641 01:17:32.079 --> 01:17:35.000 and things like that. I'm watching it right now, man, Abuka, 1642 01:17:35.640 --> 01:17:37.800 if he's the one finishing game, I don't know if 1643 01:17:37.800 --> 01:17:39.720 it's gonna happen this year, but that's what we talked 1644 01:17:39.720 --> 01:17:42.239 about when they drafted him, is he's gonna be the 1645 01:17:42.319 --> 01:17:44.760 one out there finishing with kid because he can make shots. 1646 01:17:44.840 --> 01:17:48.199 Because if the pick and roll with Cad doesn't break 1647 01:17:48.279 --> 01:17:51.319 down and the shooters in the corner are covered, you 1648 01:17:51.479 --> 01:17:53.520 kick it to Abuka and he will make something out 1649 01:17:53.560 --> 01:17:55.479 of nothing with six seconds left on the shot clock. 1650 01:17:55.640 --> 01:17:58.359 I rewatching him right now, man, I can't. I can't 1651 01:17:58.399 --> 01:18:01.760 sta even the second Sariy jumped ahead of it, the 1652 01:18:01.800 --> 01:18:05.079 guy's guard we saying, that's exactly what I'm talking about, 1653 01:18:05.560 --> 01:18:09.439 defenders finishing in traffic contested shots. It was. It was 1654 01:18:09.520 --> 01:18:12.119 extremely impressive. You'll want to turn on look that he 1655 01:18:12.159 --> 01:18:19.760 wanted to the humble guy can't try thumb ass stupid 1656 01:18:20.680 --> 01:18:21.840 game bucket dude. 1657 01:18:22.000 --> 01:18:23.960 He is. And the and the crazy part too, is 1658 01:18:24.000 --> 01:18:26.760 the NBA more than probably any other sport. Now granted 1659 01:18:26.840 --> 01:18:29.680 there's position, there's some positions within other sports, but like 1660 01:18:30.000 --> 01:18:32.560 the NBA in general is the league where you could 1661 01:18:32.600 --> 01:18:35.119 come in and you can like be that guy right away, 1662 01:18:35.479 --> 01:18:37.720 like like for sure, you know, like the NFL, you 1663 01:18:37.760 --> 01:18:41.039 know you got stuff. But yeah, I mean kN Kupple 1664 01:18:41.119 --> 01:18:45.000 came in last year just fucking but like I didn't 1665 01:18:45.039 --> 01:18:47.920 see that coming at all. Like this kid has all 1666 01:18:48.119 --> 01:18:50.840 its making and I'm starting the NBA Sentil rumor right now. 1667 01:18:51.199 --> 01:18:53.479 I'm gonna I'm starting that NBA Sentil rumor right now. 1668 01:18:53.560 --> 01:18:54.319 He grew two inches. 1669 01:18:54.439 --> 01:18:56.359 There you go. Yeah, came into camp. 1670 01:18:57.640 --> 01:18:59.600 The one thing I'll say, just because I'm watching right 1671 01:18:59.600 --> 01:19:02.079 now too, and this is I'm just trying to find 1672 01:19:02.119 --> 01:19:04.399 something to say, let's see it from the left side. 1673 01:19:04.399 --> 01:19:06.600 Now, you know every day was right there the right 1674 01:19:06.880 --> 01:19:08.840 saying let's see him from the left side. But you 1675 01:19:08.920 --> 01:19:11.680 can want confidence, you can do tape. Yeah, he's got 1676 01:19:11.720 --> 01:19:14.720 the left hand, he left, don't worry about that. 1677 01:19:14.760 --> 01:19:17.119 He got a left But one thing I'm gonna say 1678 01:19:17.239 --> 01:19:19.800 is last year, you've seen multiple rookies come in and 1679 01:19:19.960 --> 01:19:20.600 make their impact. 1680 01:19:20.680 --> 01:19:20.880 VJ. 1681 01:19:21.039 --> 01:19:25.039 Edgecombe, Cooper, Flag, You've seen con Now, not all of 1682 01:19:25.119 --> 01:19:26.520 those guys went into the playoffs. 1683 01:19:26.600 --> 01:19:27.119 I know VJ. 1684 01:19:27.279 --> 01:19:31.680 Edgecomb did, but multiple of those rookies were over fifteen 1685 01:19:31.720 --> 01:19:32.319 points per game. 1686 01:19:32.840 --> 01:19:36.840 And Abuka he will have that role where he can 1687 01:19:37.000 --> 01:19:38.720 achieve that. We broke it down many. 1688 01:19:38.800 --> 01:19:40.960 You said that you know he might not start, which 1689 01:19:41.039 --> 01:19:42.880 I don't think he will. I don't think he will 1690 01:19:42.920 --> 01:19:43.640 start all season. 1691 01:19:44.600 --> 01:19:47.560 I think he'll finish when it comes down. He's going to. 1692 01:19:47.600 --> 01:19:50.000 Finish the fourth quarter with Kate gunning in because he. 1693 01:19:50.000 --> 01:19:51.880 Guys don't forget he was a shooting guard before. 1694 01:19:52.039 --> 01:19:53.600 And you have to look at the tape of what 1695 01:19:53.720 --> 01:19:55.359 you've seen in the summer league. There was a couple 1696 01:19:55.359 --> 01:19:58.479 of plays where he was off ball and then they 1697 01:19:58.600 --> 01:20:02.000 ended up passing it to him. He then pump baked, 1698 01:20:02.239 --> 01:20:04.800 made the guy jump up in the air, dribbled in 1699 01:20:05.039 --> 01:20:09.000 step back for the three. Ye hit it like what 1700 01:20:09.199 --> 01:20:11.479 you need alongside kid Cunning. 1701 01:20:11.520 --> 01:20:12.680 Nobody do that. 1702 01:20:12.760 --> 01:20:15.680 They were doubling him at half court. They were doubling 1703 01:20:15.760 --> 01:20:17.279 Kate at half court. You're not gonna be. 1704 01:20:17.239 --> 01:20:19.439 Able to do that with and if you double yeah, 1705 01:20:19.479 --> 01:20:21.680 if you double Kid, that just gives him so much 1706 01:20:21.760 --> 01:20:24.239 more space, let alone being one on one with a defender, 1707 01:20:24.279 --> 01:20:27.359 but giving more space to work and could find his 1708 01:20:27.439 --> 01:20:29.399 way to the basket. Well, you've got two guys on 1709 01:20:29.560 --> 01:20:32.279 cade on in in the front court, like with the 1710 01:20:32.319 --> 01:20:33.640 shooters with the shooter. 1711 01:20:35.760 --> 01:20:39.359 Again, like watching that tape, imagine that, you know, instead 1712 01:20:39.359 --> 01:20:41.520 of dumping off to no disrespect. 1713 01:20:41.199 --> 01:20:43.600 I don't even know who it was. Instead of dumping off, 1714 01:20:44.760 --> 01:20:45.920 just grab it and stand there. 1715 01:20:46.079 --> 01:20:48.840 You're dump You're dumping off to Jalen Duran, who was 1716 01:20:48.960 --> 01:20:51.640 the best finisher in the NBA at the Rim last season. 1717 01:20:51.640 --> 01:20:54.399 Shoot he's seventy percent in the restricted area. Like, imagine 1718 01:20:54.439 --> 01:20:56.680 you have you have that as your dump off option. 1719 01:20:56.760 --> 01:20:59.319 As a BUKA, he is only going to be amplified 1720 01:20:59.560 --> 01:21:00.800 by the talent around him. 1721 01:21:00.840 --> 01:21:06.600 If John Collins can actually shoot forty from three on 1722 01:21:06.880 --> 01:21:11.039 like three four attempts a game, the spacing the Pistons 1723 01:21:11.079 --> 01:21:14.039 have next year will be discussed so much. Bag you 1724 01:21:14.199 --> 01:21:18.640 will at all times next year have at least two 1725 01:21:18.840 --> 01:21:22.479 forty three point shooters on the floor. Yeah, because Isaiah 1726 01:21:23.319 --> 01:21:25.760 Kid's crying right now, Like that is the one thing though, 1727 01:21:25.840 --> 01:21:28.880 tration did a good job because like Torrian Prince is 1728 01:21:28.880 --> 01:21:31.680 a forty percent three point shooter two on four attempts 1729 01:21:31.720 --> 01:21:32.520 the past two years. 1730 01:21:33.439 --> 01:21:36.039 And that's the guy coming off the bench at yeah, 1731 01:21:36.159 --> 01:21:37.119 eight and nine, and that's. 1732 01:21:37.000 --> 01:21:39.359 All you need. Yeah, you don't need your your eighth 1733 01:21:39.439 --> 01:21:41.119 bench guy to put up six shots, you know. 1734 01:21:41.680 --> 01:21:45.479 So Yeah, man, Like I said, this team is regular 1735 01:21:45.560 --> 01:21:47.960 season proof. We know it's we know it's flaws for 1736 01:21:48.039 --> 01:21:50.600 the for the for the playoffs, but for the regular season, 1737 01:21:50.840 --> 01:21:53.000 this team's gonna go out there. They're gonna punch people 1738 01:21:53.039 --> 01:21:54.760 in the mouth, They're gonna hit it up now. They're 1739 01:21:54.760 --> 01:21:56.720 gonna be able to hit threes. Last year they were 1740 01:21:56.760 --> 01:21:59.920 beating you without even shooting threes. This team, this team 1741 01:22:00.119 --> 01:22:02.760 is going to be regular season good. And again we're 1742 01:22:02.800 --> 01:22:04.720 gonna see e Laite from Kay cutting him. I'm very 1743 01:22:04.760 --> 01:22:06.800 confident we need when you're John Collins to be our 1744 01:22:06.840 --> 01:22:07.239 tough guy. 1745 01:22:07.560 --> 01:22:10.319 You're gonna see a kid that hast dark as hard 1746 01:22:10.640 --> 01:22:13.479 Like I look at the shooting around this this Pistons 1747 01:22:13.520 --> 01:22:16.359 team now and I see a reason why there's no 1748 01:22:16.439 --> 01:22:18.960 reason why Kate wouldn't be able to average twelve assist. 1749 01:22:18.960 --> 01:22:20.840 Yeah, if he if he chooses. No, I agree. 1750 01:22:20.920 --> 01:22:23.119 I agree because like you know, like you're passing it 1751 01:22:23.199 --> 01:22:25.760 to Isaiah Joe, like bro is probably gonna make that shot, 1752 01:22:26.039 --> 01:22:27.039 especially when he's wide over. 1753 01:22:27.159 --> 01:22:28.520 Yeah. Like I just. 1754 01:22:30.039 --> 01:22:32.800 For the listeners too, Like I'm mister, like throw the 1755 01:22:32.840 --> 01:22:35.159 cold water on ship. I'm saying like Ny saying Derek 1756 01:22:35.239 --> 01:22:37.800 Moore seven eight sacks like three. 1757 01:22:38.319 --> 01:22:40.399 I'm not. I'm not doing that ship. I'm like, I 1758 01:22:40.560 --> 01:22:43.800 want to see it first. I got to see And 1759 01:22:43.920 --> 01:22:47.520 that's the hype is worthy. Kids a bucket, Kids a bucket. 1760 01:22:47.560 --> 01:22:50.159 We're gonna go to break, We're gonna come back. We're 1761 01:22:50.159 --> 01:22:52.279 gonna talk about Chris's boyfriend. We're gonna talk about some 1762 01:22:52.399 --> 01:22:55.680 of it. Or do we doing? We'll talk about we 1763 01:22:55.760 --> 01:22:57.840 got one more pistons topic, then we'll get the lions. 1764 01:22:58.319 --> 01:23:04.039 Uh tell us tell us Chaz on the sheet. 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Okay, 1807 01:25:48.439 --> 01:25:49.039 you got Twitch? 1808 01:25:49.560 --> 01:25:52.199 Tell people Jay underscore Skywalker. 1809 01:25:52.359 --> 01:25:55.680 There you go, gos up hop on the Shames, Jeff, Uh, 1810 01:25:55.800 --> 01:25:56.640 it's a minus streaming. 1811 01:25:56.920 --> 01:25:57.039 Uh. 1812 01:25:59.640 --> 01:26:01.439 I actually they had a little bit of motion on Twitch, 1813 01:26:01.479 --> 01:26:05.319 but I stopped. Should pick that back up ring? Have time? 1814 01:26:07.279 --> 01:26:10.119 Like you confirmed me a busy guy? All right? How 1815 01:26:10.159 --> 01:26:13.520 do you know you had his out because he crashed 1816 01:26:13.520 --> 01:26:18.479 out in our group chat. Call him mounted up. He 1817 01:26:18.600 --> 01:26:22.119 dropped the people's elbow from the top of it on everyone. 1818 01:26:24.000 --> 01:26:27.880 What's the uh? Never mind, keep going anyway, I got. 1819 01:26:27.840 --> 01:26:31.000 Some lion stuff. If you guys want the lion stuff chat, 1820 01:26:31.520 --> 01:26:33.319 we keep glazing the BUCA. 1821 01:26:34.000 --> 01:26:35.880 There was also a second round pick out there, guyes today. 1822 01:26:35.880 --> 01:26:39.119 We want to talk about you. Two second round picks. Actually, yeah, 1823 01:26:43.199 --> 01:26:45.279 you know, I will say this to you. Who's the 1824 01:26:45.359 --> 01:26:51.920 second one? Oh, we're not talking about Chance. Look, Chris, 1825 01:26:52.359 --> 01:26:56.560 he looked bad. It's complicated. He still got faith that 1826 01:26:56.680 --> 01:27:00.319 he's making the team. I'm disappointed in Chancelay. I mean, 1827 01:27:00.439 --> 01:27:01.840 you was missing open three. 1828 01:27:02.119 --> 01:27:02.640 This is the guy. 1829 01:27:02.720 --> 01:27:05.520 Indeed, you cannot miss open threes at all. 1830 01:27:05.880 --> 01:27:07.760 He was a guy in the G League that he 1831 01:27:08.000 --> 01:27:10.600 was actually lighting it up in three. I thought that 1832 01:27:10.640 --> 01:27:12.319 would translate into the Summer League. 1833 01:27:12.680 --> 01:27:14.600 Boy, was I wrong? You were wrong? 1834 01:27:15.039 --> 01:27:15.399 I was. 1835 01:27:17.359 --> 01:27:21.840 But it's just one game. Yeah, maybe about thirty next game. 1836 01:27:21.920 --> 01:27:27.800 Speaking of not mixing three, you see axel Oh he's yeah, 1837 01:27:27.960 --> 01:27:30.520 he did it again. Yeah, three in a row. He's 1838 01:27:30.520 --> 01:27:33.279 shooting like sixty five percent from three in the Summer League. 1839 01:27:33.520 --> 01:27:36.760 I felt like a jackass, like like kind of throwing 1840 01:27:36.760 --> 01:27:38.560 a fit about that one, because when I was so 1841 01:27:38.720 --> 01:27:41.000 mad about not getting the X the night that we 1842 01:27:41.119 --> 01:27:43.239 drafted Buka, I didn't allow myself to enjoy it at all. 1843 01:27:43.279 --> 01:27:44.640 I was like, he's a guy, he's a guy, whatever, 1844 01:27:44.800 --> 01:27:46.520 because I had my heart said on the Axe, I'm like, 1845 01:27:46.560 --> 01:27:47.359 the piss is gonna get up. 1846 01:27:47.520 --> 01:27:50.600 Yeah, that's Tobias replacement right there. But they did it 1847 01:27:51.319 --> 01:27:53.479 him and mores Johnson bullet ball, And then I want 1848 01:27:53.520 --> 01:27:55.000 to tell myself, maybe Axe is gonna be that. 1849 01:27:55.039 --> 01:27:58.199 Sweet, like he's gonna be fucking I'm happy right now? 1850 01:27:59.119 --> 01:28:03.560 Why are you happy because of bat? Still? Yeah, for 1851 01:28:03.640 --> 01:28:07.239 sure you could have got both. Really you want is 1852 01:28:07.479 --> 01:28:08.840 trying to get one of these stars. 1853 01:28:09.159 --> 01:28:11.560 A BOOKA is better well not, I wouldn't say, but 1854 01:28:11.640 --> 01:28:12.359 he has a better. 1855 01:28:12.319 --> 01:28:15.560 He's more skilled. Yeah, he's only nineteen. The floor for 1856 01:28:15.680 --> 01:28:19.520 him he has, he has a higher ceiling. But yax 1857 01:28:19.600 --> 01:28:22.119 Will looked pretty good in his first that is fair. 1858 01:28:22.199 --> 01:28:24.159 We do have to take into a fact that guy's 1859 01:28:24.199 --> 01:28:36.920 twenty six ready. Johnny's fair, I don't. I just like 1860 01:28:37.000 --> 01:28:40.560 the fit of like what we needed as before signed 1861 01:28:40.600 --> 01:28:43.199 to him or would have been great on this team. 1862 01:28:43.239 --> 01:28:44.560 And they both looked really. 1863 01:28:44.359 --> 01:28:50.199 Good to watch Morena play against talking more like he 1864 01:28:50.439 --> 01:28:52.560 he was just he's too big, he's too strong. 1865 01:28:52.800 --> 01:28:56.640 He was also knocking down shots like Peter this draft classic. 1866 01:28:56.760 --> 01:28:59.960 But Peterson he had fucking eight turnovers and nine five 1867 01:29:00.439 --> 01:29:05.720 Oh my god, yeah eight turnovers. Yeah. See, he's like 1868 01:29:05.760 --> 01:29:06.800 someone to me that has to be set up. 1869 01:29:06.840 --> 01:29:10.520 There's only been like four players or Bomber, as much 1870 01:29:10.600 --> 01:29:12.359 we kill Jeff for here this week, for that, uh, 1871 01:29:12.880 --> 01:29:14.600 as much as I killed Jeff early this week for 1872 01:29:14.640 --> 01:29:15.399 the killing and stuff. 1873 01:29:15.680 --> 01:29:17.279 Bomber compared Peterson. 1874 01:29:16.920 --> 01:29:20.640 To Kobe this week. And I didn't want to want 1875 01:29:20.640 --> 01:29:21.880 put your stuff out there like that. You did that 1876 01:29:21.960 --> 01:29:23.720 on stream if you were there for the for the 1877 01:29:23.880 --> 01:29:32.159 draft watch party. Then he said it on stream and ill. 1878 01:29:34.800 --> 01:29:41.680 I just like Chris, No, it's a joke. It's a joke. 1879 01:29:43.000 --> 01:29:49.560 But yeah, Peterson and the Bonza they both looked. I 1880 01:29:49.640 --> 01:29:51.640 mean you saw it with both of them. But they 1881 01:29:51.680 --> 01:29:55.079 also didn't play good games. Not efficient. Yeah, with a 1882 01:29:55.239 --> 01:29:56.800 cuff he's like six or twenty. 1883 01:29:56.960 --> 01:29:59.680 It's so it's so wild sometimes like and we've we've 1884 01:29:59.720 --> 01:30:01.840 been victims of it too, like Ron Holland an example 1885 01:30:01.840 --> 01:30:03.840 of that too. But like like the top of the 1886 01:30:03.920 --> 01:30:06.920 NBA draft sometimes will be like the potential picks. I'm saying, 1887 01:30:06.960 --> 01:30:10.319 like Ron Ivy maybe even two. We're like, you can 1888 01:30:10.439 --> 01:30:12.760 have this is a great, great, great, great, great great 1889 01:30:12.840 --> 01:30:16.000 great fucking draft too, But like, you went too far 1890 01:30:16.079 --> 01:30:18.319 with Ivy with potential. 1891 01:30:19.039 --> 01:30:20.039 There was hype behind Ivy. 1892 01:30:21.079 --> 01:30:22.880 I didn't want people to understand why the took my 1893 01:30:22.960 --> 01:30:24.640 five was like, okay, this could be something special. 1894 01:30:24.720 --> 01:30:26.119 There was never a chance for him to be an 1895 01:30:26.119 --> 01:30:27.840 All Star, and yeah. 1896 01:30:27.680 --> 01:30:29.920 There was, Jeff, I wish I knew you back then. 1897 01:30:29.920 --> 01:30:33.479 I guarantee you saying them for sure, that's way too. 1898 01:30:33.479 --> 01:30:37.199 Far, Jeff, I didn't. I actually was very angry at 1899 01:30:38.319 --> 01:30:42.720 the Pistons picking. So it was easy. Easy said Troy 1900 01:30:42.760 --> 01:30:45.319 Weaver is not stupid enough to draft Jade and Ivy, 1901 01:30:46.560 --> 01:30:48.720 and he got fired, got. 1902 01:30:52.199 --> 01:30:52.439 War. 1903 01:30:53.600 --> 01:30:56.640 Actually I'm still at wore something I literally saw somebody 1904 01:30:56.760 --> 01:31:00.439 today say, like when they were taking somebody said Buka 1905 01:31:01.279 --> 01:31:05.640 like Piston's Twitter is awful, and somebody said he looks 1906 01:31:05.840 --> 01:31:10.159 just like him, bro like doing a vague post, vague 1907 01:31:10.199 --> 01:31:12.880 post king but he was talking about Jade and Ivy, 1908 01:31:12.920 --> 01:31:16.039 and somebody in the comments said, no, not Ivy, he 1909 01:31:16.319 --> 01:31:20.760 was special. What the fuck is wrong with you, guys. Man. 1910 01:31:21.319 --> 01:31:23.560 At most, Ivy was gonna be a guy on this 1911 01:31:23.680 --> 01:31:27.199 team that averaged twenty points and was able to create 1912 01:31:27.239 --> 01:31:30.439 a little bit offside cunning him when when he was 1913 01:31:30.600 --> 01:31:34.119 healthy before her and he took a dive into game. 1914 01:31:35.039 --> 01:31:41.159 Buka's game is much more fine. It's it's much better 1915 01:31:41.279 --> 01:31:44.880 for the modern NBA than Jade and Ivy's game. It 1916 01:31:45.039 --> 01:31:47.359 is always wild. He was always he was. He was 1917 01:31:47.399 --> 01:31:50.960 out of control a lot. But I can't know this 1918 01:31:51.359 --> 01:31:55.399 guy literally, he was a star. I was like, bro, 1919 01:31:55.840 --> 01:31:58.479 you gotta stop man. The guy's not dead, he's just 1920 01:31:58.560 --> 01:32:02.119 out of the league. Like he wasn't got fired, he 1921 01:32:02.279 --> 01:32:09.680 got fired. Buka showed us everything we needed from a 1922 01:32:09.760 --> 01:32:13.119 first Summer League games. Wells, I agree, I agree it 1923 01:32:13.279 --> 01:32:15.680 was shot. Answer called that pick. Shoutout as did call 1924 01:32:15.760 --> 01:32:28.399 the pick? Want exactly give me Cory is a great call, 1925 01:32:28.600 --> 01:32:31.800 great call, And like I said, I like the kid. 1926 01:32:32.479 --> 01:32:37.600 I I really really like players that play like like 1927 01:32:37.720 --> 01:32:41.760 that type like that type of ball is very pure hoops, 1928 01:32:41.840 --> 01:32:43.880 it's pure like that's like Kyrie is one of my 1929 01:32:43.920 --> 01:32:47.479 favorite players ever, Like I always loved like Lou Williams, 1930 01:32:47.640 --> 01:32:51.079 Jamal Crawford, Kevin Durant like that type of bucket getting. 1931 01:32:52.239 --> 01:32:54.399 It's it's fun to watch, man. 1932 01:32:54.600 --> 01:32:56.600 It's like uh, I said, it's pure hoops. It's like 1933 01:32:57.039 --> 01:33:01.159 Lebron great team five on five player. Yeah, Kobe saying 1934 01:33:01.159 --> 01:33:04.600 like kill yeah, he will mur chop you fucking down 1935 01:33:04.640 --> 01:33:05.600 by the I'm saying like. 1936 01:33:06.159 --> 01:33:08.279 That's the type of style Corey's bringing. It's cool to 1937 01:33:08.279 --> 01:33:13.000 have on this team. And since fuck, I mean Kate 1938 01:33:13.079 --> 01:33:17.079 can do it. Fucking he don't got the micro Finny Johnson, 1939 01:33:17.279 --> 01:33:18.119 he can't do it. 1940 01:33:18.319 --> 01:33:20.720 But it's more of like with Kate, it's like he 1941 01:33:20.880 --> 01:33:22.319 wants to get the teammates involved. 1942 01:33:22.359 --> 01:33:25.199 He wants to be Yeah, no, he's player. He's a 1943 01:33:25.279 --> 01:33:27.479 Lebron Bill the point guard. Yeah, like that's what he is. 1944 01:33:27.600 --> 01:33:29.319 He's a point guard. And you know some people out 1945 01:33:29.319 --> 01:33:30.800 there to tell you today he's not I don't know, 1946 01:33:30.840 --> 01:33:31.439 under saying. 1947 01:33:31.279 --> 01:33:33.800 Insane work for someone to averages ten assists per game. 1948 01:33:33.840 --> 01:33:37.760 He's a point guard, buddy, and I did like to see. Also, again, 1949 01:33:37.880 --> 01:33:41.319 I know it's summer league, but these are still some 1950 01:33:41.560 --> 01:33:45.760 of them obviously actually twenty six plus. There are some 1951 01:33:46.199 --> 01:33:49.399 some older guys who like they're not all nineteen. A 1952 01:33:49.479 --> 01:33:53.560 lot of them are fully matured bodies, big six seven, 1953 01:33:53.920 --> 01:33:57.520 two hundred and something pound bodies, and he wasn't getting 1954 01:33:57.560 --> 01:34:00.720 pushed around. He was playing good defense, he wasn't getting 1955 01:34:00.760 --> 01:34:03.359 pushed off too many blocks that he shouldn't have. So 1956 01:34:03.920 --> 01:34:06.800 I like to see him looking physically there as well. 1957 01:34:07.119 --> 01:34:08.880 Some of these guys are G League players that have 1958 01:34:09.039 --> 01:34:11.039 been in the G League for at least three or 1959 01:34:11.039 --> 01:34:13.520 four years, and they're, you know, kind of basically getting 1960 01:34:13.560 --> 01:34:16.560 a shot to go out there and make an NBA 1961 01:34:16.680 --> 01:34:19.399 roster or earn a two way contract. So yeah, I 1962 01:34:19.479 --> 01:34:23.399 mean it, he's playing against experienced guys as well. Like 1963 01:34:23.479 --> 01:34:25.800 and I like Chris, I know I brought up to 1964 01:34:25.840 --> 01:34:28.760 you and in chat, but like I look at Cameron Carr, 1965 01:34:28.800 --> 01:34:30.960 another guy that you know, we wanted the pissiness to 1966 01:34:31.000 --> 01:34:33.920 get and he's balling, and it's like when you look 1967 01:34:33.960 --> 01:34:36.960 at what they're doing and they're doing efficiently, that matters. 1968 01:34:37.640 --> 01:34:40.800 Who could did it efficiently? John R says, you don't 1969 01:34:40.840 --> 01:34:43.560 know ball Ivy was him until that cousin dove into 1970 01:34:43.640 --> 01:34:44.119 his tibia. 1971 01:34:44.279 --> 01:34:44.600 He was not. 1972 01:34:44.760 --> 01:34:48.279 I mean, it definitely hurt his trajectory, but he was 1973 01:34:48.359 --> 01:34:50.279 in no way him. But he wasn't him. He was 1974 01:34:51.239 --> 01:34:54.159 like the Detroit Pisses at their all time worst record. 1975 01:34:54.279 --> 01:35:01.039 Fucking ever, why do we still don't understand it? It 1976 01:35:01.119 --> 01:35:03.960 drives me crazy excuse making for this guy. 1977 01:35:04.479 --> 01:35:08.000 He's gone and you're still fucking strattled up to those 1978 01:35:08.039 --> 01:35:09.000 things were we doing? 1979 01:35:09.399 --> 01:35:12.199 Let me say this, it comes to when it comes 1980 01:35:12.239 --> 01:35:15.960 to Ivy, I hate yes and we hate col Anthey. 1981 01:35:16.079 --> 01:35:19.359 That was a very unfortunate situation. But the fact that 1982 01:35:19.720 --> 01:35:23.159 that was the catalyst for the spiral that we saw. 1983 01:35:23.600 --> 01:35:26.000 I mean, look, he was playing regular season basketball. Like 1984 01:35:26.399 --> 01:35:29.239 we're having all these questions about Jalen Duran's mental like 1985 01:35:29.560 --> 01:35:32.520 would you not be worried, like did Ivy not showcase 1986 01:35:32.840 --> 01:35:36.760 clearly and inability to overcome adversity? 1987 01:35:37.479 --> 01:35:40.239 Well, yeah, in the mental aspect, In the mental aspect 1988 01:35:42.319 --> 01:35:44.520 that that is true. He was mad at his teammates 1989 01:35:44.560 --> 01:35:47.880 for fucking host dude like player hater of the year. 1990 01:35:49.760 --> 01:35:51.399 Did you like it? Did it feel good? Was worth 1991 01:35:51.439 --> 01:35:58.560 cheating on your wife? What he's talking about? There's only 1992 01:35:58.600 --> 01:36:01.520 a couple married guys on the kind of narrows it down. 1993 01:36:03.079 --> 01:36:05.960 A lot of them are young and single. And he's gone. 1994 01:36:06.039 --> 01:36:12.199 Now is it twice? I don't want to cast anybody 1995 01:36:12.800 --> 01:36:15.720 is coming back we'll speaking of shame, we do it now, 1996 01:36:15.800 --> 01:36:17.239 we'll come back. I see we're up against it. 1997 01:36:17.279 --> 01:36:19.479 But do you have a summer league crush that you 1998 01:36:19.600 --> 01:36:22.680 did fall for and they end up flopping? Who's that 1999 01:36:22.760 --> 01:36:24.960 guy in throughout the Hiss history, you call you your kid? 2000 01:36:25.119 --> 01:36:26.840 I got on all right, let's get to him. We 2001 01:36:26.880 --> 01:36:31.039 get back feist. Tell us about anesia amnesia. If you 2002 01:36:31.119 --> 01:36:33.760 see me in the streets, you know I got the 2003 01:36:34.000 --> 01:36:36.680 switch on me. 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Make sure check them out next time you spencry. 2022 01:38:34.600 --> 01:38:37.199 Don't think, just ask for the Royal Gesters one and 2023 01:38:37.199 --> 01:38:38.279 a half Grahams of Greatness. 2024 01:38:41.039 --> 01:38:44.000 You welcome back to say with the heavywds? Is it 2025 01:38:44.119 --> 01:38:47.560 on the Woodwinds sports dot Com? I asked before they break, 2026 01:38:47.560 --> 01:38:49.000 who is the guy you fell for that in the 2027 01:38:49.039 --> 01:38:51.079 Summer League? He said, this guy he's going to be 2028 01:38:51.159 --> 01:38:51.439 a guy. 2029 01:38:51.600 --> 01:38:54.479 This must be him. Was it Henri La Song? Was 2030 01:38:55.600 --> 01:39:01.119 it a Stanley Johnson? I have too. One of them 2031 01:39:01.279 --> 01:39:06.119 is Henry Allinson? He was bald. Yeah, I was this. 2032 01:39:06.279 --> 01:39:11.800 We got Mini Dirk. This guy is fucking nuts. He's 2033 01:39:11.840 --> 01:39:15.359 gonna be our power forward. It's gonna be awesome. No, 2034 01:39:15.520 --> 01:39:17.800 it wasn't. Wasn't Bill like that. Henry Allenson had me. 2035 01:39:18.359 --> 01:39:21.359 And the other one was Austin Day. I thought Austin 2036 01:39:21.479 --> 01:39:25.399 I thought Austin Day. I thought he watched. I was like, oh, man, 2037 01:39:25.640 --> 01:39:28.760 like this guy, he's gonna perfectly fill in. He's Tasha 2038 01:39:28.800 --> 01:39:31.479 on two point zero, he's got the wetter, he's big, 2039 01:39:31.560 --> 01:39:34.760 he's tall, he's got he's got good defense and smarts. 2040 01:39:34.840 --> 01:39:37.079 Like I thought Austin Day was gonna be a perfect 2041 01:39:37.159 --> 01:39:38.560 fit into the NBA. 2042 01:39:38.720 --> 01:39:40.720 Austin Day watched so Kevin Durant could run. 2043 01:39:41.880 --> 01:39:46.880 That is what they say. Henry Allenson and Austin Day 2044 01:39:46.920 --> 01:39:47.159 were my. 2045 01:39:47.199 --> 01:39:52.319 Two biggest mine mine would honestly like the person that 2046 01:39:52.399 --> 01:39:54.920 I feel like had the highest potential. They still worked 2047 01:39:54.920 --> 01:39:57.039 out to be a fine NBA player. But I thought 2048 01:39:57.119 --> 01:39:58.800 like k CT was gonna be one of the best 2049 01:39:58.840 --> 01:40:01.560 guards in the league. He was lighting up summerly. I 2050 01:40:01.640 --> 01:40:03.920 thought he was going to be like your you know, 2051 01:40:04.039 --> 01:40:08.239 like you're literally your franchise, like quarter Stoke. But yeah, 2052 01:40:08.279 --> 01:40:11.159 Henry Allison was obvious what he was just going to stupid. 2053 01:40:11.920 --> 01:40:14.000 I thought Stocket a lot of a lot of them. 2054 01:40:14.439 --> 01:40:16.319 Yeah, to be fair, we were younger than too, like 2055 01:40:16.319 --> 01:40:17.479 we were like kind of kids, and a lot of 2056 01:40:17.600 --> 01:40:18.520 those dumb ass takes. 2057 01:40:19.000 --> 01:40:20.439 Some of you in the chat pay mortgages. You got 2058 01:40:20.520 --> 01:40:23.840 relaxed lit shit and I'm sham with the super chat 2059 01:40:23.880 --> 01:40:26.920 real quick. Sorry, he says as a Christian adjacent believer, 2060 01:40:27.399 --> 01:40:30.199 we need more atheist athletes in sports. As you ruined 2061 01:40:30.319 --> 01:40:32.880 my pits. Let's not bring the lord into this one. 2062 01:40:32.960 --> 01:40:37.479 It was not his fault. It's not his fault. Yeah, 2063 01:40:37.600 --> 01:40:39.600 I think that was all those guys. Awesome day. 2064 01:40:39.640 --> 01:40:43.079 Stanley Johnson The funked Up Part two is like Stanley 2065 01:40:43.159 --> 01:40:45.920 Johnson is again kids. I would take him in two 2066 01:40:46.000 --> 01:40:48.319 K and I was fucking he was my point guard, 2067 01:40:48.600 --> 01:40:50.039 and that would be a bowling ball on the paint 2068 01:40:50.079 --> 01:40:50.279 and just. 2069 01:40:50.319 --> 01:40:53.880 Kicking out some shooters and fucking balling Stanley Johns, Stanley 2070 01:40:53.920 --> 01:40:57.960 Johnson Johnson. That was That's realistic. 2071 01:40:58.039 --> 01:41:01.680 Believe Stanley was only was one of them For me too, 2072 01:41:01.800 --> 01:41:02.600 that was really up there. 2073 01:41:02.640 --> 01:41:04.840 I said that before the break another guy that it 2074 01:41:05.000 --> 01:41:06.960 was a summer league, but a player that I just 2075 01:41:07.079 --> 01:41:09.159 like really bought into because I was super young, was 2076 01:41:09.239 --> 01:41:11.640 a like I thought he was gonna be. 2077 01:41:13.479 --> 01:41:18.560 Fucking five. I used to be jealous. I used to 2078 01:41:18.600 --> 01:41:19.159 be jealous of. 2079 01:41:20.920 --> 01:41:22.960 I love that guy for sure. 2080 01:41:23.079 --> 01:41:25.199 He was a good veteran guard. I mean, Chris couldn't 2081 01:41:25.199 --> 01:41:25.800 even talk yet. 2082 01:41:27.920 --> 01:41:30.359 Actually, actually, my uncle who lives in Houston, he was 2083 01:41:30.479 --> 01:41:33.039 like amazed because I started watching the Pisses during the 2084 01:41:33.079 --> 01:41:35.479 playoff run where they won the championship, The first game 2085 01:41:35.479 --> 01:41:37.439 I watched was the was a half court shot from 2086 01:41:37.439 --> 01:41:38.359 Billups that we lost. 2087 01:41:39.000 --> 01:41:41.359 And then fast forward the next year. 2088 01:41:41.720 --> 01:41:44.159 Dude, I knew like everything about the Houston Rockets, like 2089 01:41:44.239 --> 01:41:45.720 t Mac and all that, and he was like, he 2090 01:41:45.840 --> 01:41:47.479 was like, holy ship, like you're not just a pisses fan. 2091 01:41:47.560 --> 01:41:49.880 You're watching everything. I don't know how, it's just like 2092 01:41:50.399 --> 01:41:52.199 I would. I went all into NBA. So I was 2093 01:41:52.239 --> 01:41:54.640 already projecting like Aaron a Flower is like the next 2094 01:41:54.840 --> 01:41:56.319 like the next superstar. 2095 01:41:56.560 --> 01:41:57.680 That is the one thing that's grown up as a 2096 01:41:57.680 --> 01:41:59.560 sports fans, like you have like family, and she'd be like, 2097 01:41:59.640 --> 01:42:01.239 how do you know all this? And to you, it's 2098 01:42:01.880 --> 01:42:04.720 because you're like don't you yeah, pick. 2099 01:42:04.640 --> 01:42:07.359 It up along the way was impressed by like my 2100 01:42:07.520 --> 01:42:09.680 aunts and uncle, like even some of my uncles and 2101 01:42:09.760 --> 01:42:12.119 like my mom and s how do you know all 2102 01:42:12.159 --> 01:42:13.680 of these numbers? I don't know. 2103 01:42:14.199 --> 01:42:16.920 That's a good that's a good one to Peyton Siva, 2104 01:42:18.079 --> 01:42:20.640 So I remember somebody who who I who? 2105 01:42:20.680 --> 01:42:21.000 I knew. 2106 01:42:21.039 --> 01:42:22.800 I wasn't cool with them, but he was like he 2107 01:42:22.920 --> 01:42:25.560 was like a big he was a big u of 2108 01:42:25.720 --> 01:42:28.680 m slappy and so he showed one. He showed one, 2109 01:42:28.760 --> 01:42:31.119 Uh Trey Burke like pinned him against the glass Painte 2110 01:42:31.159 --> 01:42:34.720 Siva in the championship and then Payne Siva actually copped 2111 01:42:34.720 --> 01:42:36.119 it back on him. He's like, yeah, I remember my 2112 01:42:36.199 --> 01:42:37.199 championship break too. 2113 01:42:37.680 --> 01:42:41.359 I got to take him back. Though most I can't 2114 01:42:41.359 --> 01:42:42.640 remember it that anymore. He doesn't have one. 2115 01:42:43.079 --> 01:42:44.880 I'll give you a recent guy that I thought was 2116 01:42:44.880 --> 01:42:45.199 gonna have. 2117 01:42:45.399 --> 01:42:50.439 I forgot a good a good jump for you, buddy, A. 2118 01:42:50.439 --> 01:42:52.520 Good jump in his second year in the NBA, and 2119 01:42:52.600 --> 01:42:54.399 I thought it was Ron. I thought he was gonna 2120 01:42:54.399 --> 01:42:56.960 be a lot more efficient from three, given the fact 2121 01:42:57.000 --> 01:42:59.359 that in that summer league he actually shot the ball. 2122 01:42:59.479 --> 01:43:03.159 Welcome to and he actually showed like some actual skill 2123 01:43:03.239 --> 01:43:05.720 that you're on. I'm not out on him, but I 2124 01:43:05.840 --> 01:43:08.640 just thought we would see a lot more of him 2125 01:43:09.119 --> 01:43:11.119 in this you know that last season that just got 2126 01:43:11.239 --> 01:43:12.640 ended and we didn't. 2127 01:43:12.760 --> 01:43:15.600 I was really really disappointed that he didn't get run 2128 01:43:15.640 --> 01:43:18.319 in the playoffs. Yes, I'm not out on him, though 2129 01:43:18.560 --> 01:43:20.760 I still think he can. He's not going to be 2130 01:43:20.800 --> 01:43:23.119 a star or anything. That might be my worst take ever, 2131 01:43:23.239 --> 01:43:27.560 but I think, uh, I he's got so much potential 2132 01:43:27.640 --> 01:43:31.279 to at least be a very effective NBA player. 2133 01:43:31.399 --> 01:43:33.239 This is goal one of two ways, because the fact 2134 01:43:33.279 --> 01:43:35.239 I see him in summer league in short, so I'm like, 2135 01:43:35.560 --> 01:43:39.359 I'm like, this is going one of either he's gonna 2136 01:43:39.479 --> 01:43:41.760 either he's gonna take a leap where he's gonna crash 2137 01:43:41.840 --> 01:43:42.359 the fun out. 2138 01:43:42.520 --> 01:43:45.880 Yeah, Sham's bomb, says d n T or DNC d 2139 01:43:46.520 --> 01:43:49.920 d T. Let's see. Uh fake money on. 2140 01:43:51.399 --> 01:43:53.960 A five year, two hundred and fifty two million dollar 2141 01:43:54.239 --> 01:43:58.680 maximum rookie scale contract for the San Antonio Spurs Victor Wamanyama. 2142 01:43:58.479 --> 01:44:02.119 Five year, two fifty d two. Look, he already signed 2143 01:44:02.159 --> 01:44:02.680 it today. 2144 01:44:03.600 --> 01:44:08.439 Ye, Darren wanted five years to eighty seven. No way 2145 01:44:08.600 --> 01:44:11.479 get out with the full max that Darren was. It 2146 01:44:11.560 --> 01:44:14.720 does have a fifth Uh was the first tea? 2147 01:44:16.520 --> 01:44:19.960 Yes? Oh yeah yeah? So wait, so what was the Jeff? 2148 01:44:20.399 --> 01:44:22.600 You may know this because I don't remember this offhand, 2149 01:44:22.880 --> 01:44:25.880 Like I know, like obviously getting all fifty per Yeah. 2150 01:44:26.760 --> 01:44:28.319 He just came out there and said, yeah, I'll take 2151 01:44:28.359 --> 01:44:31.399 a pay cut. But I don't know. Maybe he did 2152 01:44:31.560 --> 01:44:33.880 this person that's the same kind of Lebrono. It's still 2153 01:44:33.920 --> 01:44:35.399 pay cup and he still got paid. 2154 01:44:35.479 --> 01:44:37.560 No, I don't know how it works because it's like 2155 01:44:38.199 --> 01:44:41.359 you know, during made you know, third team, Webby made 2156 01:44:41.439 --> 01:44:44.199 first team, so I don't know. Plus he won an award, 2157 01:44:44.520 --> 01:44:46.800 so I think that he actually could have qualified for 2158 01:44:46.920 --> 01:44:47.239 more than. 2159 01:44:47.279 --> 01:44:49.399 Three hundred million. Yeah, for sure, he could have got 2160 01:44:49.439 --> 01:44:52.159 the super duper max right like Giannis And then look, 2161 01:44:52.199 --> 01:44:54.079 I gotta refresh how that works. 2162 01:44:54.479 --> 01:44:57.359 Honestly, how much is Caid making because Caid made those 2163 01:44:57.439 --> 01:45:01.079 same just not the award, but ca had they signed 2164 01:45:01.119 --> 01:45:02.840 before he got the All Pro Like I know, but 2165 01:45:02.960 --> 01:45:05.640 even though you signed before, if you if you achieved 2166 01:45:05.640 --> 01:45:08.399 that during that contract, you get those numbers, your your 2167 01:45:08.560 --> 01:45:11.039 your your contract then goes up to those numbers. 2168 01:45:11.239 --> 01:45:14.840 Wemby could have made over three hundred and three million, okay, 2169 01:45:15.359 --> 01:45:17.720 because he won Defensive Player of the Year and his 2170 01:45:17.880 --> 01:45:20.439 first team All NBA, So he could have got over 2171 01:45:20.479 --> 01:45:21.319 three hundred million. 2172 01:45:21.439 --> 01:45:23.000 So he took fifty million dollars discovers. 2173 01:45:23.039 --> 01:45:24.439 That's a that's a significant discuss. 2174 01:45:24.479 --> 01:45:28.159 That is a significant He's getting paid less than kid wow. 2175 01:45:29.239 --> 01:45:33.119 So even though he made two hundred and fifty million dollars, 2176 01:45:33.760 --> 01:45:37.960 it's still a pretty significant discount. It's paid money, please 2177 01:45:38.199 --> 01:45:38.920 money please. 2178 01:45:39.720 --> 01:45:41.960 Kate is a five year like I said, with the 2179 01:45:42.279 --> 01:45:45.119 with the ability because he did it reached the All 2180 01:45:45.239 --> 01:45:48.560 NBA first team level, it goes up to two hundred 2181 01:45:48.560 --> 01:45:52.159 and sixty nine million dollars rookie extension. Okay, so that's 2182 01:45:52.199 --> 01:45:55.039 what Kaye's contract is. And wow, Victor Willy Damas is 2183 01:45:55.079 --> 01:45:58.399 two hundred and fifty two million good for five years now. 2184 01:45:58.439 --> 01:46:00.960 It does include the player option in the fifth year. 2185 01:46:01.880 --> 01:46:03.479 You know he's gonna opt out and then go play 2186 01:46:03.479 --> 01:46:04.760 with Kike Cunning and Detroit. 2187 01:46:04.920 --> 01:46:09.199 Despite some people comparing the two and their playoff Jeff struggles, 2188 01:46:10.000 --> 01:46:12.319 no one has a problem victim make a fifty million dollars. 2189 01:46:12.920 --> 01:46:16.319 No one's blinking and eye questioning. He didn't have to 2190 01:46:16.359 --> 01:46:18.399 go and test the fucking market. And in fact, he 2191 01:46:18.439 --> 01:46:21.640 took seventy You should have made like sixty five a year. 2192 01:46:21.960 --> 01:46:25.000 And that's not all the money. The San Antonio's first 2193 01:46:25.079 --> 01:46:28.640 saved this week we're in. Here is the side by. 2194 01:46:29.279 --> 01:46:33.239 Oh well, here's the backstory. First, Oh, what the fuck? 2195 01:46:33.359 --> 01:46:36.880 The Spurs broadcaster. The Spurs broadcaster got fired from his 2196 01:46:37.039 --> 01:46:40.960 job when his girlfriend posted this. This wasn't him, Spencer. 2197 01:46:41.039 --> 01:46:41.720 You want to do the honor? 2198 01:46:42.119 --> 01:46:44.960 Yeah, it says this is my girlfriend of six years, 2199 01:46:45.000 --> 01:46:49.000 but I cheated on her with Lauren Waters at Lauren Waters. 2200 01:46:49.479 --> 01:46:52.399 So feel free to continue following me if you really 2201 01:46:52.479 --> 01:46:54.359 think I'm a good guy, because I'm not. 2202 01:46:55.159 --> 01:46:58.119 And now here's the side by side. Okay, wow, the 2203 01:46:58.279 --> 01:47:01.920 left is his girlfriend. Way what a mistake? What what 2204 01:47:02.000 --> 01:47:03.399 a mistake? He had to be in love? 2205 01:47:03.520 --> 01:47:08.960 That's crazy? No, way crazy confirmed because she's his girlfriend. 2206 01:47:09.119 --> 01:47:11.840 By the way, this is Lindy Water's sister. That's got 2207 01:47:11.960 --> 01:47:13.239 to be Lendy Water's older sister. 2208 01:47:14.239 --> 01:47:16.119 He's like in Hollywood. She's like a filmmaker or. 2209 01:47:16.119 --> 01:47:20.039 Something for an event. The girlfriends still roll. Did you 2210 01:47:20.199 --> 01:47:24.439 did you guys try to be a start because his 2211 01:47:24.560 --> 01:47:27.760 girlfriend's way hotter. I'm pretty sure he got fired. Yeah 2212 01:47:27.800 --> 01:47:32.079 he did. That's crazy, and you get fired for getting pussy. 2213 01:47:33.600 --> 01:47:35.760 Just you just can't. You just can't fucking that's that's 2214 01:47:35.840 --> 01:47:40.199 not kbooss. Guy's always cheat down. Yeah, I mean that's 2215 01:47:40.439 --> 01:47:47.000 more often than that. Lebron didn't. 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Welcome to the Woodward Heavyweights Live Daily pot. 2247 01:49:38.640 --> 01:49:40.600 What up though, Welcome to Word of Why It's library 2248 01:49:40.600 --> 01:49:43.000 sports Psychologist used to join by some more action, Chris 2249 01:49:44.239 --> 01:49:46.239 you them, Jeff, Sorry, guys, I'm we gotta thune know 2250 01:49:46.439 --> 01:49:49.079 right now, It's time for the mail bag chugment. 2251 01:49:49.640 --> 01:49:53.880 Get your questions and mail bag, mailbag, mail bag. We 2252 01:49:53.960 --> 01:49:55.960 got some mail bags in there. Let's see, let's see, 2253 01:49:56.039 --> 01:50:02.359 let's see done yet, Way to go chat No DNC 2254 01:50:02.560 --> 01:50:05.319 and says WEHMBA. Yama decided on the twenty five percent 2255 01:50:05.439 --> 01:50:10.359 maximum instead of the thirty percent super Mac Supermax. 2256 01:50:10.399 --> 01:50:19.079 Escalat SUPERMC super Supermax Jesus Supermax super Max Escalator Supermax. 2257 01:50:19.560 --> 01:50:23.600 That's a tough one super Max Escalator to three oh 2258 01:50:23.760 --> 01:50:31.520 three million escalator escalator after the week, super Max Escalators 2259 01:50:32.119 --> 01:50:35.479 to three hundred three million. After he did, the Spurs 2260 01:50:35.600 --> 01:50:39.239 went through multiple frameworks, a major decision for the All 2261 01:50:39.840 --> 01:50:42.920 NBA Star and Defensive Player of the Year. So yeah, 2262 01:50:42.960 --> 01:50:44.840 three hundred three million is what he could have made, 2263 01:50:45.239 --> 01:50:48.880 but he settled for two fifty settled for two hundred 2264 01:50:48.920 --> 01:50:50.359 and fifty million dollars, just. 2265 01:50:50.399 --> 01:50:53.039 Like Dyala Durrk could settle for one hundred and seventy million. 2266 01:50:53.359 --> 01:50:58.199 We took one hundred million dollar pa cup fifty fifty fifty. 2267 01:50:57.439 --> 01:51:01.560 Million dollar take one. That is pretty big, uh, Steve 2268 01:51:01.560 --> 01:51:04.199 O Baby mail Bag Spencer. Do you think Abuko will 2269 01:51:04.239 --> 01:51:06.439 play this year? I think him and k will be 2270 01:51:06.479 --> 01:51:09.119 a good pair. Absolutely, He's gonna be a big factor 2271 01:51:09.479 --> 01:51:12.359 of what they do. Super Mac better than Big Mac. 2272 01:51:13.800 --> 01:51:16.000 You heard a cript back and Big Mac. Now welcome 2273 01:51:16.039 --> 01:51:21.159 to supermc Return of the mac U xavir D mail Bag. 2274 01:51:21.560 --> 01:51:23.720 When's the next Woodward at the movies? I want to 2275 01:51:23.760 --> 01:51:27.680 hear about the honesty. The honesty will probably be the 2276 01:51:27.720 --> 01:51:35.279 next one. We're definitely gonna do Dune. Yeah. If Anne 2277 01:51:35.319 --> 01:51:37.600 Hathaway is pregnant in there, you guys better stay away 2278 01:51:37.600 --> 01:51:42.600 from me during that movie. Phil C mail bag is 2279 01:51:42.680 --> 01:51:45.439 the new Whopper as good as the old Whopper? At 2280 01:51:45.520 --> 01:51:46.119 Burger King? 2281 01:51:48.199 --> 01:51:48.359 Yeah? 2282 01:51:48.359 --> 01:51:54.079 I didn't the Whopper is it deserves its respect? I 2283 01:51:54.119 --> 01:51:55.880 didn't know there was a change. No, I'll have to 2284 01:51:55.920 --> 01:52:01.039 go two years ago. It was really good. It shout 2285 01:52:01.079 --> 01:52:03.840 out to mcpauline and she hooked up the McDonald's. If 2286 01:52:03.880 --> 01:52:06.199 you're ever in Royal Oak, make sure you check out 2287 01:52:06.199 --> 01:52:09.279 the McDonald's at eleven in Maine that has a playplace. 2288 01:52:09.520 --> 01:52:11.520 It's got a play place. If you got the kids. 2289 01:52:11.680 --> 01:52:14.640 Just make sure the last place with the play Katrina 2290 01:52:14.680 --> 01:52:17.640 says Spencer, Katrina, what did I say? I say something? 2291 01:52:17.800 --> 01:52:18.199 He said, the. 2292 01:52:19.680 --> 01:52:20.479 Men cheat down. 2293 01:52:20.800 --> 01:52:24.000 Oh, don't say that. Don't cheat. Guys don't cheat. She said, 2294 01:52:24.079 --> 01:52:27.680 Lebron did it. Lebron didn't shet down. His girl was fine. 2295 01:52:28.119 --> 01:52:30.680 His wife is gorgeous, though. Ye shout out to Savannah, 2296 01:52:30.840 --> 01:52:35.479 but I mean, let's not kidd our Celsie. Let's all 2297 01:52:35.560 --> 01:52:39.359 The adult mail bag from Will I Am says, uh, 2298 01:52:39.800 --> 01:52:42.640 Canabuka Corey truly be a number two? What I saw 2299 01:52:42.720 --> 01:52:46.800 from his performance, it feels right. Do you agree? I 2300 01:52:47.000 --> 01:52:50.720 think eventually not next year, but in a couple of 2301 01:52:50.840 --> 01:52:54.199 years there's a good shot he could be the second 2302 01:52:54.279 --> 01:52:58.760 best scoring option on a championship contender. I'm not gonna lie. 2303 01:52:58.800 --> 01:53:02.319 You gave me PTSD if about Holland, but I didn't 2304 01:53:02.319 --> 01:53:05.560 say scoring option. Yeah fair because it was never gonna 2305 01:53:05.560 --> 01:53:08.039 be that. It was gonna be all around with Ron Howard. 2306 01:53:08.520 --> 01:53:10.079 But I don't know if he could be the second 2307 01:53:10.159 --> 01:53:12.960 best player on a championship team. That would be like 2308 01:53:13.079 --> 01:53:17.199 Kyrie Irving upside, which I mean, I guess his ceilingist 2309 01:53:17.319 --> 01:53:21.640 of ceilings is Kyrie Irving. But I would say I 2310 01:53:21.680 --> 01:53:24.199 would comfort I would be comfortable hopefully with him being 2311 01:53:24.239 --> 01:53:28.520 the second best scoring option on a championship contender in 2312 01:53:28.600 --> 01:53:29.640 a in a couple of years. 2313 01:53:30.239 --> 01:53:32.600 I've I fullheartedly backed that. I believe that is a 2314 01:53:32.840 --> 01:53:35.520 that is a realistic possibility. 2315 01:53:35.600 --> 01:53:38.520 That is that is ceiling though that cling. Like I said, 2316 01:53:38.920 --> 01:53:43.039 I think a realistic ceiling for him is Lou Williams 2317 01:53:44.199 --> 01:53:46.279 is a guy that will come off the bench, He'll 2318 01:53:46.319 --> 01:53:49.319 light you up for twenty and that is an important 2319 01:53:49.319 --> 01:53:52.800 piece to a team for sure. But if he could 2320 01:53:52.800 --> 01:53:54.520 become Kyrie Holy I. 2321 01:53:54.520 --> 01:53:56.199 Don't really have comps for him. I just know he's 2322 01:53:56.239 --> 01:53:59.079 gonna be a solid scoring piece for the Detroit Pistons. 2323 01:53:59.159 --> 01:54:02.239 Not solid good good look, I mean the way this 2324 01:54:02.319 --> 01:54:05.920 Pisson team operates, and I think Kate individually operates, I 2325 01:54:06.000 --> 01:54:09.079 think he look Obviously, I'm never gonna say no to 2326 01:54:09.159 --> 01:54:11.000 a twenty point per game score. But I think Kate 2327 01:54:11.319 --> 01:54:13.920 likes to have a lot of people involved, and he 2328 01:54:14.319 --> 01:54:16.880 you know, I feel like the championship version of Kate 2329 01:54:16.960 --> 01:54:21.000 Kyneham will feature multiple people scoring double digits. I mean 2330 01:54:21.039 --> 01:54:22.920 that's how the Piss has won most of their games. 2331 01:54:23.039 --> 01:54:26.159 Is remember they'd have five, six, even seven guys get 2332 01:54:26.239 --> 01:54:28.079 double figures in a game. That's the type of way 2333 01:54:28.119 --> 01:54:30.439 that Kate Kyneham likes to play. So and you don't 2334 01:54:30.479 --> 01:54:32.279 need like a thirty point per game score. 2335 01:54:32.359 --> 01:54:36.239 Jeff and Denver Blair in the chat, I know your 2336 01:54:36.319 --> 01:54:38.479 sentiment and I know what you're saying, he says, right, 2337 01:54:38.760 --> 01:54:41.479 just like twenty two, give during time, it's a Buka 2338 01:54:41.560 --> 01:54:43.760 is nineteen. Give him time. I'm running out of time. 2339 01:54:44.039 --> 01:54:47.239 You're not running out of time. Kate Cunningham is younger 2340 01:54:47.319 --> 01:54:52.199 than Yaxel Londonborg. Like it's it's not like Cade's twenty eight. 2341 01:54:53.520 --> 01:54:56.479 Like you, you're not running out of time. We're not. 2342 01:54:56.720 --> 01:54:59.199 We have a lot of time, although we wanted to, 2343 01:55:00.119 --> 01:55:03.439 you know, come on, but it's not like it's not 2344 01:55:03.640 --> 01:55:05.560 like if it doesn't happen in two years, it's never 2345 01:55:05.640 --> 01:55:08.560 gonna happen. With Kate Cunningham and Sar Thompson, they're very 2346 01:55:08.640 --> 01:55:09.319 young players. 2347 01:55:11.239 --> 01:55:15.039 Bobby Marks came out and put a post on Twitter 2348 01:55:15.720 --> 01:55:18.239 about the Victor contract. 2349 01:55:18.720 --> 01:55:21.039 Talking to the Mic young Blood shout out Bobby Mark. 2350 01:55:21.159 --> 01:55:25.079 So the difference in year one person he got the 2351 01:55:25.159 --> 01:55:28.640 twenty five percent max instead of the thirty percent max. 2352 01:55:29.079 --> 01:55:32.319 So in year one he'll be making forty three point 2353 01:55:32.399 --> 01:55:36.119 five million instead of the fifty two point two million. 2354 01:55:37.239 --> 01:55:39.920 So he's making forty forty five forty three and a 2355 01:55:39.960 --> 01:55:44.319 half instead of fifty two point two. 2356 01:55:44.600 --> 01:55:50.079 So during negotiation, Yeah, to Dylan Duran, you have absolutely okay, 2357 01:55:50.399 --> 01:55:56.000 it's ebers now eighteen million, Jalen Durran. No literally seriously, 2358 01:55:56.239 --> 01:55:59.560 like Jalen Durran officially has no legs to stand on. 2359 01:55:59.800 --> 01:56:05.960 In this offer sheet, you have Victor Webbin Yama, arguably 2360 01:56:06.079 --> 01:56:08.600 the best player in the NBA, making forty three million 2361 01:56:08.680 --> 01:56:13.000 dollars a year. Thirty five sounds pretty good for Jalen Duran. 2362 01:56:13.720 --> 01:56:16.279 And I know that it's different scenarios and Wemby's got 2363 01:56:16.319 --> 01:56:17.680 his off court stuff where he makes a lot of 2364 01:56:17.720 --> 01:56:20.159 money so he can afford to do this. But this 2365 01:56:20.399 --> 01:56:22.720 is the fact with the NBA, if you want to 2366 01:56:22.880 --> 01:56:25.960 win a championship, you're going to have to do things 2367 01:56:26.079 --> 01:56:28.720 like this. Look at Jalen Brunson. He took the pay 2368 01:56:28.800 --> 01:56:32.840 cut Knicks win a championship with Victor Wembanyama, first Team 2369 01:56:32.880 --> 01:56:35.279 All NBA Defensive Player of the Year eligible for three 2370 01:56:35.359 --> 01:56:38.439 hundred and three million dollars. Takes a fifty million dollars 2371 01:56:38.439 --> 01:56:41.359 a year pay cut to win a championship. If you 2372 01:56:41.520 --> 01:56:44.239 are Jalen Duran and you're sitting across the table from 2373 01:56:44.319 --> 01:56:48.399 Trajan Langdon realistically saying I deserve more money per year 2374 01:56:48.439 --> 01:56:53.039 than Victor Wembanyama, You're not winning that argument, and thirty 2375 01:56:53.119 --> 01:56:56.960 plus other gms agree. So right now, you don't got 2376 01:56:57.079 --> 01:56:58.039 a leg to stand on. Brother. 2377 01:56:58.159 --> 01:57:00.399 I tell you what for, Jalen Duran. You want to 2378 01:57:00.560 --> 01:57:02.079 you want you want to extra five million? 2379 01:57:02.159 --> 01:57:03.000 Here, here's what we'll do. 2380 01:57:03.479 --> 01:57:06.359 Cage Cunningham's coming out with his own signare issue will 2381 01:57:06.399 --> 01:57:09.279 make you a Cage Signature athlete and you can just. 2382 01:57:09.399 --> 01:57:14.000 Have CA do you find me, We'll play. It's a 2383 01:57:14.079 --> 01:57:15.239 damn tree Jalen. 2384 01:57:15.039 --> 01:57:23.399 Dur that by the way, he made you know some 2385 01:57:23.520 --> 01:57:25.720 of his teammates and no guys around the league Steph 2386 01:57:25.800 --> 01:57:26.439 Curry athletes. 2387 01:57:26.560 --> 01:57:31.520 But seriously, seriously, like this is now it's done right, 2388 01:57:31.560 --> 01:57:32.239 it has to be done. 2389 01:57:32.359 --> 01:57:34.840 It had like its signed. A contracion has to be 2390 01:57:34.920 --> 01:57:37.800 made within the coming days. Here, like contracts, there's just 2391 01:57:37.960 --> 01:57:41.079 nothing left to prove. Like the Pistons made their moves, 2392 01:57:41.119 --> 01:57:44.119 so there's no arguing over cap space or any of that. 2393 01:57:44.359 --> 01:57:46.720 You know the exact number that the Pistons have to 2394 01:57:46.760 --> 01:57:52.000 operate with. And so now it's and it's not the 2395 01:57:52.399 --> 01:57:55.560 big bad Pistons that it's painting painted out to be. 2396 01:57:55.960 --> 01:57:59.680 Trajan Langdon told Jalen Duran, if you can get more 2397 01:57:59.720 --> 01:58:03.199 money from anybody on planet Earth, we will match it. 2398 01:58:04.119 --> 01:58:08.399 He couldn't. And now Wemby's making forty three million dollars 2399 01:58:08.399 --> 01:58:11.479 a year, thirty five sounds like an overpay it that. 2400 01:58:12.319 --> 01:58:15.399 I'll tell you what I guarantee you. The San Antonio's first. 2401 01:58:15.399 --> 01:58:19.840 We're not letting Victor Wembiamo. I mean even Sniff RFA 2402 01:58:20.039 --> 01:58:21.640 no like he not even Sniff. 2403 01:58:21.720 --> 01:58:25.239 And the Pistons wouldn't have either. That's the thing the 2404 01:58:25.319 --> 01:58:29.760 Pistons were gonna match. If the basketball world thought Jalen 2405 01:58:29.800 --> 01:58:32.079 Duran was worth that much money, he would be getting 2406 01:58:32.119 --> 01:58:37.399 that much money right now. But he's not. All right, 2407 01:58:37.439 --> 01:58:39.119 that'll do it for us today. I appreciate you tapping in. 2408 01:58:39.199 --> 01:58:42.359 Make sure you smash that like button for Easy, for Jeff, 2409 01:58:42.600 --> 01:58:45.279 for Chris. I am Spencer. We're the heavyweights and we'll 2410 01:58:45.279 --> 01:58:46.840 see guys on Monday. Peace,