Speaker 1: What if.
Speaker 2: Welcome to whatever weight's Live with Sports Dot Connors. You
Speaker 2: want to spend more Rax Young Chris, Jeff Walker. We
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Speaker 2: and share the street. Mark talking pistons.
Speaker 1: Yes, let's go. We might talk tigers that it depends
Speaker 1: on you chat.
Speaker 2: I don't want to talk tigers, but I think they
Speaker 2: did something deserving of talking about.
Speaker 1: So maybe towards end the show, we might sneak a
Speaker 1: some tigers. We'll see. It's up to you guys. There's
Speaker 1: a pull on there somewhere before any of that.
Speaker 2: UFC is back and we're talking about Connor McGregor versus
Speaker 2: Max Holloway, my favorite fighter, Max Hollway. Shout Spinney got
Speaker 2: me a plaque. Shout out out. Justin Gatgee versus Connor McGregor.
Speaker 2: This is the second match, by the way, they fought
Speaker 2: when they were younger. Connor went before, but this time
Speaker 2: Max is coming into as a fucking grown man, a grown.
Speaker 1: Man coming off of yeah, coming off of title appearances,
Speaker 1: you know, title fights, while Connor has been fighting Jake Jillenhall.
Speaker 1: So I think, like, like I said, everything in me
Speaker 1: says you know Max, Like, obviously he is much more active.
Speaker 1: He's you know, been in the ring. We're in the
Speaker 1: octagon recently. Connor hasn't. But Connor looked good, man. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying he had to, he had to juice. Still,
Speaker 1: he said he hasn't been fucking at camp and he's
Speaker 1: got something ready to go. So I don't know if
Speaker 1: he's gonna, yeah, hit him with his dick or something,
Speaker 1: but maybe he said he's been practicing celibacy in camp
Speaker 1: for the first time and he's going to explode his
Speaker 1: passion on the Maas Holloway, we did not promote sexual
Speaker 1: gratification anyway, or violence upon others in any way. Everything
Speaker 1: we say and do is in a satirical and comedic format.
Speaker 1: But listen, UFC was dead, the White House card revived it.
Speaker 1: You hit it with the like breathalyzer, you're the breathalyzer. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and now but now it's still you know, it's still down,
Speaker 1: it's still crawling, and they need Max and Connor to Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it could happen.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: The thing with the you know Max Holly versus Connor
Speaker 2: is my brain tells you Max Holloway. My heart's contelling
Speaker 2: me Connor, and I'm still going with Max's common sense
Speaker 2: would be Max Holloway. But the thing but is I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna discount Connor. If you ever see those videos online,
Speaker 2: these old dudes beating the fuck out of a young guy,
Speaker 2: like some young punk girls talking. Once you have hands,
Speaker 2: you always have hands. And the way Max fights, he's
Speaker 2: gonna keep Connor. Read it, He's allowed Condor the opportunity
Speaker 2: that's up to Connor's gonna land that left to knock
Speaker 2: him out maybe, but you know, if not, Max ha'd
Speaker 2: take him the deep waters and drawn because he's got
Speaker 2: some of the most some of the best stand up
Speaker 2: in the ULLC history.
Speaker 1: To be honest with you. Yeah, and one of the
Speaker 1: best chins too, and one of the best chins. But
Speaker 1: he did get knocked out to get knocked out, but
Speaker 1: we know how like like you get chinned once you
Speaker 1: get a little chinny. So we'll see if Max can
Speaker 1: keep it going. But that's what it is with Connor,
Speaker 1: Like he is a counter striker. When he was at
Speaker 1: his best, he was a counter striker. He wasn't trying
Speaker 1: to be a boxer. He was using more of the
Speaker 1: like Muay Thai aspect of mm A.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, that's I think that's why I lost the dust.
Speaker 2: I mean obviously broke his leg, but that's part of it.
Speaker 1: Two like to be out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, went to the box he used to the karate ship.
Speaker 2: He's doing like crazy fucking like uppercuts and kicks. They
Speaker 2: tours a c l against Max. He still was doing
Speaker 2: that though. He just you gotta go back to MMA
Speaker 2: Connor not boxing conn absolutely if he wants a chance.
Speaker 2: If he wants a chance, you try to box with
Speaker 2: Max Holloway, you're gonna get drass be now is because
Speaker 2: you're a UFC is dead guy where you have If
Speaker 2: kinda loses, obviously, if Conna wins.
Speaker 1: If Connor wins, it's a big shot in the army.
Speaker 1: If Connor wins, the UFC's back. If Connor loses, I
Speaker 1: mean it will still be a great fight. I think
Speaker 1: it'll stay right where it is, you know, like like
Speaker 1: it's it's it's doing good right now. The White House
Speaker 1: card was good. This is gonna be a banger card.
Speaker 1: So if Max wins, it'll just be another banger card
Speaker 1: and that keeps the moment I'm going but if Connor wins,
Speaker 1: it's back, because then Connor will get a title fight.
Speaker 2: Jeff, I know you're opinionated guy. Sometimes you can't get
Speaker 2: you to shut up.
Speaker 1: That's time I speak on this one. How you feel.
Speaker 4: Doesn't stand a chance in this like he's gonna get
Speaker 4: picked apart from the start, like there, he didn't look
Speaker 4: good in neither of the Dustin Poria fights that he.
Speaker 1: Got absolutely mauled in.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then we look at Max Holloway, he's fucked
Speaker 4: nothing but the best, like iliod Poria folk his like
Speaker 4: that's who, that's who his most recent fight is. And
Speaker 4: unless you're talking about Dustin Pourier, because he picked Dustin
Speaker 4: Poorier apart as well, old dust they're old.
Speaker 1: Probably shouldn't have steped there. In the UFC. The best
Speaker 1: part of the UFC is the unction right now because
Speaker 1: it's all of these old guys. You know, they need
Speaker 1: one guy to come in here and clean up all
Speaker 1: these old heads, all of them, like what John Jones did.
Speaker 1: When John Jones took over the UFC, he went into
Speaker 1: the light heavyweight division and cleaned up all the old heads,
Speaker 1: all of the legends of the sport. Took them down
Speaker 1: one by one. They need somebody to do that now,
Speaker 1: and they can set up perfectly. Volke, Gait Chee, Holloway, McGregor.
Speaker 1: You put all those bodies on your belt, you are
Speaker 1: immediately a superstar. In the US, they don't allow people
Speaker 1: to do steroids no more like John Jones. That's true.
Speaker 4: You gotta be careful when doing that though, because if
Speaker 4: you do put someone who's not ready in front of
Speaker 4: Max Holloway, then he's going to.
Speaker 1: That's what we've seen, that's what's been happening.
Speaker 2: When Max Holloway lost a belt, they tried to make
Speaker 2: him the gate keeper of the featherweight division.
Speaker 1: You had to go through Max Holloway to get a
Speaker 1: chance that because Max is decapitating every single one of
Speaker 1: these dudes, and Volk had know one to fight.
Speaker 4: He couldn't pass voth Like, he couldn't figure like. And
Speaker 4: that's because what did Volke.
Speaker 2: Do the rest couple of times he makes second Max
Speaker 2: one on Fight Island, I'll fuck out die on the hill.
Speaker 1: I will that third fight that was really bad. That
Speaker 1: was really bad, that was insane.
Speaker 4: I think that Max is going to put on a
Speaker 4: clinic against Connor because I don't think especially if if
Speaker 4: if Connor doesn't somehow knock Max out with within the
Speaker 4: first round, within the first two and a half minutes
Speaker 4: of the first round, Yeah, then Connor is just gonna
Speaker 4: get picked apart for five rounds Max. I don't know
Speaker 4: why this is a five round fight. I don't know
Speaker 4: what Still, why Connor would even sign up for a
Speaker 4: five round fight.
Speaker 1: He's the main event. We'll get your main event.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but let's be let's be respectful. Connor though, he again,
Speaker 2: once you have hands, you have hands whatever. He got
Speaker 2: that left hand.
Speaker 4: But Max has been doing this at no, for sure.
Speaker 2: The first time they fought Max Holloway was only twenty
Speaker 2: one years old.
Speaker 1: He was baby like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm taking Max to but I'm not discounting Connor.
Speaker 1: I'm salty, says dude. It's Spenny. It could be you.
Speaker 1: I've seen them social media posts. Definitely could be splenty
Speaker 1: Fuck No, dude, you're you're the you're I mean, they
Speaker 1: need one of these young like they're gonna try to
Speaker 1: let it be and now, Yeah, Paddy Pimblet is one
Speaker 1: of those guys gotta take I don't know any of
Speaker 1: these upper coming dogs that are gonna be like, it
Speaker 1: can't be that ugly as Mexican do it because he so.
Speaker 1: My boy lost to him, probably the ugliest first I've
Speaker 1: ever seen my.
Speaker 2: Boy Mondo actually my first ever podcast with the year
Speaker 2: as my very first ever in my basement live of
Speaker 2: Mondo and undo him on Dana White's Contender series and
Speaker 2: fucked them up.
Speaker 1: He's a dog, He's he's got strength.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Cousin, I think Walter Waite is the class where
Speaker 4: you can see one of those younger guys come in
Speaker 4: and just absolutely start to destroy all of the old
Speaker 4: heads somebody has. That's that's that's it. That's the only
Speaker 4: class that you Then again, what happened to him? He
Speaker 4: got He stepped in there with Justin and he didn't
Speaker 4: he didn't treat it as an mm A fight because
Speaker 4: he could have simply just mixed it up a lot
Speaker 4: more than what he did. He tried to stand I
Speaker 4: think sang with with Justin Gage and it didn't work
Speaker 4: and he got beat up.
Speaker 1: That's true. Armand I think Armand could be a guy.
Speaker 1: It's kind of but everyone's ducking him. Chill out on
Speaker 1: Raoul Roo. He's too young. He got asked me the
Speaker 1: last time I've seen him fight too, he doesn't have
Speaker 1: It was somebody good, though, I think I can't remember
Speaker 1: who was Raoul. It might have been Rob was Rob
Speaker 1: Font heavyweight veteran. I think you want to thought. I
Speaker 1: thought the last time I saw him fight he lost.
Speaker 1: I know that.
Speaker 5: I don't know if it was his last fight, but
Speaker 5: the last time I saw him fight, I think I did.
Speaker 5: He got tapped out. If I'm thinking correctly, I come
Speaker 5: be wrong. I can't remember, but it was Christian Rodriguez
Speaker 5: Christian decision. Yeah, he beat he beat Rob fine, Yeah, okay,
Speaker 5: he rustled funck himwards the end.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Patty Pamlin's fighting this card. Ben watch Satany if
Speaker 2: you want. If you want to know the next generation,
Speaker 2: you still want to keep up with UFC, that's when
Speaker 2: you gotta watch.
Speaker 1: It's a comin event, not the comin But I believe
Speaker 1: he's older too. It's comine actually Satany. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's like he might be thirty, but he's still
Speaker 2: he's little younger in the sport. Patty in the sport.
Speaker 2: I think the tak a Patty in that one.
Speaker 4: By the way, I think the reason why the UFC
Speaker 4: has has obviously lost some of the notoriety or the
Speaker 4: kind of like it factor of what it was is
Speaker 4: because you don't have the heavyweight and light heavyweight division
Speaker 4: as stacked as it once was when you had John Jones,
Speaker 4: when you had the brock Less and all the star
Speaker 4: power within that division. Right now, it's for the heavyweight division.
Speaker 4: The one player, the one the one guy who can
Speaker 4: come in and just absolutely wreck havoc.
Speaker 2: Not you're automatically wrong, then Gable Stevenson, you're wrong. Josh
Speaker 2: Hokott is already doing it. Josh is already doing it. Jeff,
Speaker 2: don't be blind to it. Be honest to your assessment
Speaker 2: of the sport. Josh Hokott is the disruptor and he's
Speaker 2: doing it right now.
Speaker 1: I like it or not.
Speaker 2: You can hate him, but you gotta be honest about it.
Speaker 2: But stepped in there yet. He's going to in this card.
Speaker 2: So we're gonna we're gonna get to see him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and everybody in the chat, you guys can chill out,
Speaker 1: all right, we got two hours. We're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: the pistons. Okay, we got a lot of pistons to
Speaker 1: get you know, we wanted to talk about this for
Speaker 1: a little bit because it's a big card. Get christ
Speaker 1: that's for me, monkey dance like, all right, we'll talk
Speaker 1: pistons by Hello, speaking guys fighting.
Speaker 2: Do you have the Shannon Sharp video I sent you? Yes,
Speaker 2: this is Shannon's Sharp. He had Chakor Stevenson, who's a
Speaker 2: boxer on I believe she fights. I could be wrong.
Speaker 2: I looked it up there while we're playing the video.
Speaker 2: Just run the video up the information all.
Speaker 6: Right, let me give me one second to find it
Speaker 6: in here because I know yourself. Work dude, it's in here,
Speaker 6: but it doesn't have a background, So give me one second.
Speaker 1: Don que with the super chat shout out don cue.
Speaker 1: He says, if Tiger's turning the buyers, who do you
Speaker 1: go get? Bullpen?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Bullpen? Bullpen? Bullpen? Can you get Mason Miller? Probably not?
Speaker 1: Probably not. I would do it. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: you got it. You got the video. Let's go.
Speaker 8: Don't know ship about boxing.
Speaker 1: They're being ignorant.
Speaker 8: That's it. Ignorant is something that should never come out
Speaker 8: of your mouth because you don't have a degree. I
Speaker 8: run circles around you in the class. I don't give
Speaker 8: a fuck up out of class. I've never told you
Speaker 8: do you finish high school or finished school. I'm not you.
Speaker 8: They didn't call me.
Speaker 1: You did ignorant when it comes to the spot.
Speaker 2: Box, you're ignorant about all care I'm not trying to
Speaker 2: be the smartest nigga about all sports.
Speaker 8: You're not the smartest box. I'm not the smartest box.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna wave you smarter box, and then you're fighter.
Speaker 8: You don't know who MyD is. You got upset because
Speaker 8: I don't think if.
Speaker 2: You're not really hearing me, steel boring.
Speaker 8: If you can knot got your female, you damn sure
Speaker 8: can't knock me out. Mickey Mouse bigger than you. I
Speaker 8: came up to class. He wasn't one thirty. I was
Speaker 8: one thirty five. He's on forty. I eat one hundred
Speaker 8: and forty pounds worth. You will beat your ass. You
Speaker 8: you don't eat you Spot.
Speaker 1: Grew threw a punch in your life like this.
Speaker 8: Going to you on me. You got a brother in
Speaker 8: the career. That ship will end.
Speaker 4: I promise you that you would yours.
Speaker 8: I fold your ass up like launch here. Ain't no
Speaker 8: how old are you? I don't know how, but I
Speaker 8: get your age. I have more money than you. I've
Speaker 8: been your age, you've never been.
Speaker 1: That's not Listen. I love uncle as much as the
Speaker 1: next guy. He was cook that was Now. I feel
Speaker 1: like that's one like group of people. You shouldn't talk
Speaker 1: like fighters. You cannot have a professional fighter on your
Speaker 1: show and say you beat them in a fight, unless
Speaker 1: you are yourself a professional fighter.
Speaker 2: Like I would maybe give Prime Ship Sharp a chance,
Speaker 2: maybe a chance, like a chance this.
Speaker 1: Version of him, he's gonna fucking punch your your head off,
Speaker 1: like he said, Shan's not touching him. You know, pep
Speaker 1: ties makeup for fifty years age difference. Shannon's gonna skilled.
Speaker 1: She's gonna You're gonna throw one punch and catch two
Speaker 1: body shots and hook and be like what the like
Speaker 1: he is gonna be moving in.
Speaker 2: And out and picking him apart like it wouldn't. If
Speaker 2: I was Elon Musk, I'd make this fight happen. I
Speaker 2: call him both by. I got the money to make.
Speaker 2: I'm the richest man in the world, that's true, and
Speaker 2: I want to see this fight.
Speaker 1: That's that's crazy, like a billionaires, billionaires doing this used.
Speaker 9: To yeah, problem, that was the problem. To Shart's point,
Speaker 9: that fight will and in the decision because even though
Speaker 9: anybody can get knocked I love but anybody can get
Speaker 9: knocked out, bro, he is not. He is not that
Speaker 9: guy that goes out there and puts people out.
Speaker 1: Against seven year old Shannon Sharp, he's knocking him out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just saying, like I'm saying to Shannon starts
Speaker 4: point like.
Speaker 1: Point he's get knocked out, but he is. And even
Speaker 1: the way they get the boxing you're saying as a
Speaker 1: boxer is a little boring in the standpoint.
Speaker 4: If you don't like boxing the floor as in the
Speaker 4: defense and the point fight that you know he plays it, Yeah,
Speaker 4: then yeah, you're not gonna like his style because he
Speaker 4: doesn't he doesn't knock people out.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I mean he still knock out Chanting. He
Speaker 2: would knock out Chanting, knocking out Sharp.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm man, I'm definitely going with Shakar. I listened
Speaker 1: Channing Sharp, love him. Yeah, he's not. He doesn't want
Speaker 1: those problem. There's just no chance. There is one more. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you want more, we got the ramp yeh.
Speaker 2: Three canvas ok, yeah, three cam they want to get ready.
Speaker 1: So this one could definitely be a publicity. It probably is.
Speaker 2: You could just play it Rampage wild and he is,
Speaker 2: by the way, since Kai retired for a step back.
Speaker 2: Sound this the actually talented people all respect Ky. He
Speaker 2: did a lot of amazing things. The talented people are
Speaker 2: actually taking over streaming. Like like I watch Ramping Rampage,
Speaker 2: Dean the Great you play according you know.
Speaker 1: I'm calling you out today.
Speaker 4: I'm calling you out this far.
Speaker 8: No, don't walk away.
Speaker 1: What do you mean what trouble for knocking his smile?
Speaker 1: I couldn't.
Speaker 10: So you're denying Wow, John Jones, Hey brother, but I'm
Speaker 10: back for you.
Speaker 8: This is just deny.
Speaker 1: I only take so much.
Speaker 2: This kid's actually funny that like that who kept sucking
Speaker 2: with me?
Speaker 1: No, No, I didn't throw him. Damn that motherfucker threw
Speaker 1: the ship out of me. Stop he was slipping. I
Speaker 1: was trying to stop him slipping. I was trying to
Speaker 1: stop him.
Speaker 2: That's the one I think is actually kind funny. I
Speaker 2: don't even know the kid's name, but I see his videos.
Speaker 2: He makes me laugh. Yep, But you think it's fake?
Speaker 2: Really probably fake? Yeah, looked like you said up twenty
Speaker 2: twenty six. Kids we grabbing people, throwing them mother wors
Speaker 2: like guns.
Speaker 1: That's true.
Speaker 4: I mean, no, even even if like it's still like
Speaker 4: you can press strigers like you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like so some type of that's.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of people when they see those things
Speaker 4: and you see like the streamers out here doing those stuff,
Speaker 4: most of that stuff is it's a somewhat scripted to it,
Speaker 4: you know, like they know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: They set up all that shit. All right, let's go
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Speaker 2: I don't know, but up though, welcome back to whatever
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Speaker 2: and share the dream. I should have put a poll
Speaker 2: on like wich Piston's topic you want, because we got
Speaker 2: some stuff came out earlier today.
Speaker 1: We got a lot of juicy Piston stuff. Re pissed
Speaker 1: me off about the whole Jaien Duran stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you want to start happy, we got
Speaker 2: a Buka Baum last night.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, we could talk about that all day
Speaker 1: as well too. We also got maybe some MPG trade rumors.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I just I should have did that poll, to be
Speaker 2: honest with you, but I didn't, So it's spinning.
Speaker 1: I refer to here. I would say we should start
Speaker 1: with the Wemby shit, because this is some of the
Speaker 1: craziest I mean, it's not that crazy, it is pretty crazy.
Speaker 1: He now hasn't gotten a bag yet, like a big,
Speaker 1: big bag. Yeah, it's it's a guy that is okay.
Speaker 1: So if you haven't heard per uh, some NBA reporter
Speaker 1: Brett Siegel or somebody like that. Not Brett Siegel. It's
Speaker 1: somebody actually credible. Uh, Victor, Yeah, Jake Fisher, there it is.
Speaker 1: Victor wembin Yama is open to taking less than the
Speaker 1: max to keep the Spurs as championship contenders, and he
Speaker 1: even put a tweet out there He's like San Antonio fans,
Speaker 1: San Antonio family, I'm here whatever it takes with a heart.
Speaker 1: So if you look at the NBA as it is
Speaker 1: right now, there is probably one player who is deserving
Speaker 1: of a Supermax contract, being the seven foot five Kevin
Speaker 1: Durant demigod in San Antonio and his Chris said in
Speaker 1: our chat, not only that, he's also Tom Brady and
Speaker 1: he's willing to take the pay cut so all of
Speaker 1: these great, young, talented guards that he has on his
Speaker 1: roster can stay there and they can win a championship.
Speaker 1: Huh man, that sounds awesome. I sure hope we didn't
Speaker 1: have a seven foot rim running big who barely made
Speaker 1: all NBA asking for forty five million dollars a year,
Speaker 1: while potentially the greatest basketball specimen ever created by God
Speaker 1: himself is saying, don't worry about the money. I want
Speaker 1: to win a championship. I'm here for the vibe, I'm
Speaker 1: here for the in San Antonio with those fat bitches
Speaker 1: and the churros.
Speaker 2: You got Jalen durn who tested the fucking market and.
Speaker 1: Nobody wanted you. Still throwing a fit yet to sign
Speaker 1: the Detroit Pistons.
Speaker 6: It's frustrating because to me, the dark part is frustrating
Speaker 6: because now I can only imagine what the hell Neil
Speaker 6: is gonna say. If Durhan's making more money than I.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. But but if it were being he
Speaker 1: determined he's worthy to Neil, Hey, Neil, you love to
Speaker 1: compare the two, right, Oh, the struggles are the same,
Speaker 1: even though Wempy was in the fucking finals and Jaylen
Speaker 1: Duran was getting benched for Paul Reid. Well, if the
Speaker 1: struggles are same, then take the paint cut to buddy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you've got the one that made the finals. See what
Speaker 1: are you gonna say? Down, Neil? Come on, I know
Speaker 1: you're on vacation, you're enjoying it with the family, all
Speaker 1: the pythons together. It's gonna be great. But now there's
Speaker 1: nothing you can say.
Speaker 6: What frustrates me is that this guy should have been ours, Like,
Speaker 6: that's what that That's the first thing that made my
Speaker 6: heart sink when I saw that was like, yeah, damn
Speaker 6: if my best player, this is no shot to k
Speaker 6: Cuham because look, this is what he's doing is unprecedented.
Speaker 6: And if you want to shift the focus, it's maybe less.
Speaker 6: It's maybe to me less about durn and more about
Speaker 6: kid because Kate is your leader. No, but no, but no,
Speaker 6: at the end of the day, I'm not saying any
Speaker 6: blame m caid at all, but I'm saying, like, man
Speaker 6: like to have your to have your guys set the
Speaker 6: tone this way, because I bet the way it's gonna
Speaker 6: come back around. Do you think all those guards are
Speaker 6: just gonna be like thanks, Max me out, buddy, Like, no, no,
Speaker 6: they're gonna.
Speaker 1: Take pay cuts. I'll take twenty five million. I'll take
Speaker 1: twenty five million. I'll that's what you can do. Like
Speaker 1: the four great young guards you can have, you can
Speaker 1: give them all twenty five million, and then Wemby's at
Speaker 1: fucking thirty five and boom and he's also doing us.
Speaker 2: You can rotate that Tobias Harris position, the old coming
Speaker 2: in stretching the floor like Tobya's gonna retired a couple
Speaker 2: of years. Yeah, they're gonna get another one because they
Speaker 2: can afford because Wmen's gonnake less money and yes it
Speaker 2: is a Jaalin during confercea beyondest because you he doesn't
Speaker 2: even deserve the contract that he wants. He's throwing a
Speaker 2: fucking fit about it yet to sign about it. Kate
Speaker 2: already signed. This is a new president, and this set
Speaker 2: from then on and then maybe Kate next time he
Speaker 2: signed his contract.
Speaker 1: I want to see it then that's but right now
Speaker 1: I'm gon gonna durn it with this shit.
Speaker 6: That's that's fair, and that's why I want to, like
Speaker 6: again to highlight that it is unprecedented. Why don't throw
Speaker 6: a blame mccaid because remember Lebron, like when he was
Speaker 6: building those super teams and stuff, he was all right,
Speaker 6: we're building a super team, but you're paying me every
Speaker 6: single penny you can. Like that was the rules, the terms,
Speaker 6: the conditions for every single super team. He built in Miami,
Speaker 6: he built in Cleveland, he built in LA. Only now
Speaker 6: at forty two years old, is this man taking a
Speaker 6: pay cut Lebron James? So like, this is not this
Speaker 6: is unprecedented for Wemby to say this before his first
Speaker 6: contract is even up.
Speaker 12: So I mean, man, it just it just frustrates me.
Speaker 6: Because he literally has every single intangible of being a
Speaker 6: being a great. Like it's not just it's not just
Speaker 6: he has this like you know, alien, it's the brain, man,
Speaker 6: it's the desire.
Speaker 1: It's working out with Tibetan monks and and keem Olajuwan
Speaker 1: in the offseason. It is learning how to walk correctly
Speaker 1: so you can stay healthy for a longer period of time.
Speaker 1: But it's seven foot five, Like, this guy is the
Speaker 1: the ultimate like athlete and competitor. And I don't want
Speaker 1: to glaze him too hard. But if you are what
Speaker 1: people are saying is the next chosen one of basketball,
Speaker 1: and you're being Tom Brady as well, like what the fuck, dude,
Speaker 1: that ship. This guy's gonna have more rigs than Bill
Speaker 1: Russell I career will. That's how you beat the aprons.
Speaker 1: That's how you keep super teams together is when the
Speaker 1: one guy on your team who truly deserves a three
Speaker 1: hundred million dollar contract is like, I'll take a third
Speaker 1: of it. Lebron did it with the heat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I mean, it's it's unfortunate because he's already
Speaker 2: hard to stop right now before.
Speaker 1: Jeff, before we get your thoughts on it? Phil, see
Speaker 1: you with the super chat He says, five bucks in
Speaker 1: there for Chris's house fun five dollars.
Speaker 2: And can I just say this real quick shout out
Speaker 2: to Phil Stephers in the super chow, Larry, love you.
Speaker 1: Appreciate you watching the show, man, I really do. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you would like to dictate what we
Speaker 1: speak about on the show. You see what Phil just did? Yeah,
Speaker 1: there a.
Speaker 2: Little little little money on you stopped everything we were doing.
Speaker 2: Head address Phil, Right, you want to dictate, let's talk
Speaker 2: about on the show. Spend your money? Why I sit back,
Speaker 2: relax and.
Speaker 1: Enjoy the free entertainment.
Speaker 2: YEA, love you though, I appreciate you watching them. Let's
Speaker 2: let's quit the bitch. If I want it a bitch,
Speaker 2: I want to say home my wife, Oh oh fuck man,
Speaker 2: We're never gonna stop.
Speaker 4: I truly think that this is a situation where Wenby.
Speaker 1: Up in Texas, come listen. He sees.
Speaker 4: Sees the talent that is inside of the Spurs organization,
Speaker 4: and it goes, I want Dylan Harper here.
Speaker 1: I want.
Speaker 4: Kate Cunningham is on the Detroit Pistons. Can you honestly
Speaker 4: blame him for taking a Max. Why should I have
Speaker 4: to Why should I have to to cut my money
Speaker 4: those three number when I have Jalen Durant all respected.
Speaker 4: Jalen Durant, you had a great regular season, but you
Speaker 4: didn't do anything in the playoffs. You're not a top
Speaker 4: five center in the NBA. Why should I cut money
Speaker 4: for you? Or why should I cut money for a
Speaker 4: star even though you're a defensive Player of the Year candidate?
Speaker 4: What do you bring me on the offensive side? I
Speaker 4: don't have any shooters around me. Why should I? Why
Speaker 4: should I cut money? Kate when he was signing that contract,
Speaker 4: he had no reason, no reason to cut money because
Speaker 4: there was no clear sight at all in this Pistons
Speaker 4: organization that he would even be here long term to
Speaker 4: even win. Yeah, So like, if you're him, you're gonna
Speaker 4: take that Max contract.
Speaker 2: Chris Chriss Star Flair with its.
Speaker 1: Star attacking cave from it.
Speaker 4: By the way, Kate signed that rookie Max and then
Speaker 4: he went out there and earned All Pro honors showtime.
Speaker 1: Kate three one three with the Super Chants wear the
Speaker 1: damn shirts right, got to wear the shirt. That's why
Speaker 1: san Antonio wears the shirts. Wenby saw them in those shirts,
Speaker 1: and he said, all right, you know, I'll take a
Speaker 1: cheap deal. Maybe if you wore the shirts, Jalen Duran
Speaker 1: would be signed. Maybe if you wore the shirts, they'd
Speaker 1: be willing to trade for a star. No, I'm just kidding, shot,
Speaker 1: nothing's on you guys. You guys are the best fans
Speaker 1: on the planet.
Speaker 2: Point in the fact that Jalen Brunson, he was the
Speaker 2: first to do it, really and this this new era
Speaker 2: of guys obviously lend back then that.
Speaker 1: It was after. It was after his first contract, but
Speaker 1: his first contract wasn't that big of one.
Speaker 4: And he was also like amazing bringing in his best
Speaker 4: friend since college.
Speaker 1: So it's true.
Speaker 4: You know, it's like you actually have eleven.
Speaker 1: Hurts us.
Speaker 4: Smoking weed friends from high school.
Speaker 2: Tell me, like wim beats saw that the guy took
Speaker 2: less money, literally beat him. And the other part about
Speaker 2: two is Wimby in the Spurs. We talked about before too.
Speaker 2: They were up in every single one of those finals
Speaker 2: games and.
Speaker 1: Just choked away. It felt like an experienced thing more
Speaker 1: than like they got best.
Speaker 2: Obviously they got best at the end of the day, yes,
Speaker 2: but it felt like they choked it away more than anything.
Speaker 2: Like they just needed to close this guy. He might
Speaker 2: he's run the league for six years straight. This is
Speaker 2: terrifying stuff to find out. And death the Dog says, No,
Speaker 2: I'm after the ones I gave you. Talking about the shirts,
Speaker 2: I born your shirt before.
Speaker 1: Man, and we're working on I'm working on. You already
Speaker 1: know my situation. I thought we only had the big
Speaker 1: one that he brought for the summertime. Chris brought a
Speaker 1: couple all the time. Yeah, well I got one for
Speaker 1: the first one the first sun.
Speaker 12: Damn near every Friday all today between the Rap Cave
Speaker 12: and History.
Speaker 1: Ye shout out out, shout out. Bring Scotty Holmes. I mean,
Speaker 1: if if that question goes through, I bet that won't
Speaker 1: sit well with Scotty Barnes. And you know him and
Speaker 1: Kate are boys, and that why she could change and
Speaker 1: he would be And I like, if we're talking, if
Speaker 1: we're talking about it with Scottie Barnes, that's a player
Speaker 1: you're moving. You're you're willing to move a star for
Speaker 1: I would rather bring well, obviously you'd rather keep it.
Speaker 1: Obviously you'd rather keep a SAR. But Toronto would start
Speaker 1: with Asar Thompson and that.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't be a deal breaker for talking about you won't
Speaker 2: have this opportunity to kay Conny until twenty nine to thirty,
Speaker 2: which is mine.
Speaker 4: I don't I don't mind Kate getting his money. Get
Speaker 4: your money because you earned it. You earned it, you
Speaker 4: would Yeah, you were honest.
Speaker 1: It's not OK's gonna go up to We should be
Speaker 1: spinning this on kid at all. That's decades. We're talking
Speaker 1: about the two centers that are looking to get paid
Speaker 1: this offseason, one of them basically being basketball Jesus and
Speaker 1: the other one being Jalen duran I'll tell you what,
Speaker 1: Jayalen Durn's not the one take in the discount and no, no,
Speaker 1: and there's you know, get your money man, like you know,
Speaker 1: who knows if you get a second contract. But you're
Speaker 1: young enough to where you're probably gonna get another contract.
Speaker 4: After this, Yeah you are. And you're probably gonna get
Speaker 4: another max contract after.
Speaker 1: This as well. Stick is gonna blame kids.
Speaker 4: If you're Jalen Durham, why not takes thirty five over five?
Speaker 2: Well he has Jared seventy million dollars depending on everyone.
Speaker 1: Jared Golf, Jelan during O the fucking all right, let's
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Speaker 2: Allegedly corner reports MPJ Michael Porter Jr. And the Nets
Speaker 2: can't come to a conclusion on a contract extension. This
Speaker 2: is his final year of his deal. He's making forty
Speaker 2: million dollars. Is twenty four percent of the salary cap available.
Speaker 2: Is this a move the pisses need to make. We
Speaker 2: talked about making this move the deadline last year.
Speaker 1: Yes, he didn't go anywhere. Yes, yes, Michael mean now
Speaker 1: me needing a lot of Michael not like you. If
Speaker 1: you can make this happen, you make It's Kevin Durant
Speaker 1: light and he has been proven to work on a
Speaker 1: championship winning team around a big, facilitating, low post guy
Speaker 1: like he was the number three two on that championship
Speaker 1: team in Denver. Him and Aaron Gordon were the de
Speaker 1: facto two or three Jam Murray. Well, yeah, so you
Speaker 1: gotta Quary Murray Corey kind of sounds the same, Uh,
Speaker 1: but no. Yeah, if you can get Michael Porter junior,
Speaker 1: you do it. And you don't go give four first
Speaker 1: round picks or whatever the hell they were asking for
Speaker 1: the deadline. You you low ball them.
Speaker 6: So this is actually the worst case scenario for the
Speaker 6: Detroit Pistons. He doesn't get a lot of money because no,
Speaker 6: because the Pistons, right now can't get him. There is
Speaker 6: mathematically no way the Pisses could get him outside of
Speaker 6: outside of sign and trading. But the report is that
Speaker 6: they're trading him before the season if they can't agree
Speaker 6: to contract extension.
Speaker 12: So this is the worst point is.
Speaker 1: So they would have to sign and trade Michael Porter Jr.
Speaker 1: For the Pistons to get him.
Speaker 6: No, they the pisson is the only way they can
Speaker 6: mathematically do it is by signing trading durry because if
Speaker 6: you look at their if you look at their cap sheet,
Speaker 6: now you look at their cap shoot. Now, the Pisses
Speaker 6: have Duncan Robinson making sixteen million, the next highest eligible
Speaker 6: trading salary, because you can't trade Collins. So it would
Speaker 6: be it would be excuse me, who is there? That
Speaker 6: would yeah, Ron Holland.
Speaker 1: So would you say something like Jalen Duran and Duncan
Speaker 1: Robinson for Nick Claxon and Michael Porter Junior.
Speaker 6: Would be something you could the bull the bulls? Who's
Speaker 6: the math Wise, that wouldn't work either.
Speaker 1: Who's there? Who's the well? Who's the net center? You
Speaker 1: got to get a big back from them if you're
Speaker 1: trading Durty, the don't have Oh we're disrespecting you. They
Speaker 1: don't have a center. I doubt that.
Speaker 6: No, they traded. They traded Nick Claxton. The three team
Speaker 6: traded got Juwis Randall. I guess Yrd center right now
Speaker 6: or Darren Sharp. Darren Sharp would be their But no,
Speaker 6: this is the worst case scenario for the Pisses because
Speaker 6: mathematically you have all right, so you have Holland and Duncan, right,
Speaker 6: they got for twenty four million. You can't you can't
Speaker 6: aggregate your trade exception. So remember they have that twenty
Speaker 6: million dollar trade exception. You can't use that plus salaries,
Speaker 6: so it has to be separate. So the way the
Speaker 6: Pisses could get Michael Porter is they have to hope
Speaker 6: that Michael Porter doesn't get traded before this, before this
Speaker 6: because also if he signs an extension, he cannot be
Speaker 6: traded this entire calendar year of the NBA season, no
Speaker 6: matter what they.
Speaker 1: Extend him to.
Speaker 6: If they extend him to a contract, you can't trade
Speaker 6: that player.
Speaker 1: For sign trade ward the sign trade.
Speaker 6: No, they can't because he's not a free agent right now.
Speaker 6: It's an extension, not a free agent signing.
Speaker 1: But they can still manage during They signed durn.
Speaker 6: See that would be the movies. They would have to
Speaker 6: use duran. That's the only mathematical way.
Speaker 2: And you know it's forty million. You got Ron making nine, yes,
Speaker 2: Duncan making fifteen.
Speaker 6: You can't trade Collins because you just acquired him via
Speaker 6: sign and trade.
Speaker 12: You can't trade you.
Speaker 6: You'd have to package like literally everybody else. But you
Speaker 6: can't even do that because you can't trade Javonte Green.
Speaker 6: You can't trade. I don't know if you could trade
Speaker 6: Toria Prince and Gary Harris, but they only make a
Speaker 6: combined six million, So like you can't. You can't get
Speaker 6: the money to get there.
Speaker 1: You can't. I'm just saying Dayron Sharp's per thirty six
Speaker 1: is seventeen thirteen, four and a half, two steals in
Speaker 1: a block.
Speaker 6: He was a baby pottery like he wasn't he wasn't
Speaker 6: demon in garbage game. Yeah, we don't have So it's
Speaker 6: not happening. It's it's not happening. But that's our franchise
Speaker 6: is to invest in. Like that's what was dumb ass.
Speaker 6: Franchise will take Jalen Durn. They've been looking for Jaylen Durn.
Speaker 1: They've been talking, they tried, they've been sniffing around Duran
Speaker 1: for a little while.
Speaker 7: Have it.
Speaker 4: I'll be honest, I don't think that was the Knicks.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't give up Jayalen Duran for Michael porterj No,
Speaker 4: because you can find MPG.
Speaker 1: You can't find Jalen Duran.
Speaker 4: You can find MPJ in Camp Johnson if you wanted
Speaker 4: to like look at yes, yeah.
Speaker 6: Jeff, Yes, Michael Porters way back. Yeah, you can't like
Speaker 6: that strike too week strike to this week.
Speaker 2: But look how much money he wants though, are you
Speaker 2: one more officer?
Speaker 4: One more of those takes the contract extension. He's got
Speaker 4: one year left, yes, and then so he wants his
Speaker 4: contract extended.
Speaker 2: Oh, Ship Bam out of Bio and Tyler Herro got
Speaker 2: into a physical altercation in Las Vegas and Friday Friday
Speaker 2: out of Bio struck Hero.
Speaker 1: No way, Tyler Heroes hurt. So he's available. Yeah, Tyler
Speaker 1: Herro standing on. I will take it into Tyler Hero.
Speaker 4: I would much rather have gone been talking that ship.
Speaker 1: Ship Bam walked up on it. Damn.
Speaker 2: Maybe I think the other part that matters too, because
Speaker 2: I think I would be I would entertain m PJ
Speaker 2: over Durren simply because I think he's a winning piece,
Speaker 2: and during you win games and.
Speaker 1: Get to the playoffs with them.
Speaker 2: I just don't see during as like the piece of
Speaker 2: complete Cador championships would be. Who are partying with it?
Speaker 2: But it depends on how much Michael Porter Junior is
Speaker 2: trying to sign it.
Speaker 1: And it's way easier to find a center who can
Speaker 1: rebound and defend the rim than it is a power
Speaker 1: forward who shoots forty three percent from three on seven
Speaker 1: attempts and can create his own shot the phone and
Speaker 1: can rebound and is a I think you put it perfectly,
Speaker 1: he's Katie like Katie. This is like a cheaper version
Speaker 1: of it. Actually team, not even team, because he's good,
Speaker 1: like Michael Porter junr. Is good, and you would ever
Speaker 1: you'd average twenty five a game playing with Kate Cunningham
Speaker 1: on his team. It would be disgusting. It would be gross.
Speaker 6: No, I'm all for it. It's just unfortunately he doesn't
Speaker 6: line up unless you lets you.
Speaker 1: Yes, we're saying that, like all of these moves and stuff,
Speaker 1: even with what the roster looks like now being marginally better,
Speaker 1: it feels like they've been building to something. No.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the problem is is there anything as I think
Speaker 6: that a week ago, Trajan looked at the landscape and
Speaker 6: was like, all right, I have to AMML up for
Speaker 6: the trade deadline, and now you know this unfortunately kind
Speaker 6: of came out of nowhere. But I don't know, maybe they,
Speaker 6: maybe the Pisses aren't really that interested. I know they've
Speaker 6: been linked to him, but it doesn't seem like they
Speaker 6: ever like aggressively pursued him. Yeah, maybe tradition doesn't. For
Speaker 6: whatever reason, I would disagree with whatever his reason is.
Speaker 6: Michael being out on Porter.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, Michael Porter has been known to disappear
Speaker 4: at times. He has been known that when he was
Speaker 4: with Dever he did disappear and before after I know,
Speaker 4: they won a championship. But I'm saying it's not like
Speaker 4: he was the driving force behind it.
Speaker 1: He was a big reason. Honestly, I would say he
Speaker 1: was thirteen in the road to the championship.
Speaker 4: Would say he was the fourth option on that team. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I think Aaron, but he was.
Speaker 1: You could say he's the fourth best player because yeah,
Speaker 1: but he would be your second option. Yeah, scoring immediately
Speaker 1: would immediately bel would immediately be the best isolation scorer
Speaker 1: on your team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think y'all look at too like and for
Speaker 2: the Jayalen During stuff like people all like, don't during
Speaker 2: gave you nothing the playoffs, but he can Obias and
Speaker 2: came win your games.
Speaker 1: This is a souped up Tobias, the young Tobias with
Speaker 1: a better shot, a longer guy too shot, but more.
Speaker 4: I think when I look at when I look at
Speaker 4: Jalen during, I do see that he is an unfinished product.
Speaker 4: Like we still there's still a lot more of his
Speaker 4: game that he has yet to unlock.
Speaker 1: Now true, of course, you know you have to see
Speaker 1: the unlocking of that. But he's only twenty two. He's
Speaker 1: he's only twenty two.
Speaker 2: He's how much more we're gonna see? We kind of
Speaker 2: know what this prototype is.
Speaker 1: I think we've seen but like during the regular season,
Speaker 1: and I know the regular season does not matter, but
Speaker 1: that's where you're seeing seeds get planning development. Why he
Speaker 1: was an All NBA player was because he unlocked his
Speaker 1: isolation scoring ability, whether it was taking people off the
Speaker 1: dribble or studying. You know, I saw I'm hitting step
Speaker 1: back jumpers and like not even that, but just a
Speaker 1: consistent sixteen foot jump shot and a couple dribble moves.
Speaker 1: At the top of the key where you're not useless
Speaker 1: at the top part of a pick and roll, and
Speaker 1: that would unlock so much for him offensively. Again, I
Speaker 1: do also subscribe to the factor that with the lack
Speaker 1: of shooting around them, the paints were so clogged against
Speaker 1: teams like the Magic and like Cleveland, it made it
Speaker 1: very hard for him to test those already questionable offensive
Speaker 1: skills that he was developing. But if he can get
Speaker 1: more confident with that, it is there. I do see it.
Speaker 1: It's just I don't know if it's mentally there. That's
Speaker 1: the biggest hurdle for me.
Speaker 2: Fun fact, by the way I looked it up, Aaron
Speaker 2: Gordon and Michael Port Junior both average thirteen and six
Speaker 2: in that finals.
Speaker 15: Run a much better defender. Yeah, but we don't need
Speaker 15: a defender playmaker, no argument, No, I'm if is looking
Speaker 15: to get rid of people.
Speaker 1: MPJ beancakes. MPJ is much more than a catch and
Speaker 1: shoot guy. Absolutely like go go watch his name from
Speaker 1: this year. All the points this year were basically off
Speaker 1: the trim and it was Brooklyn, it was Cam Thomas
Speaker 1: and MPJ run Iso ball. Yeah, Kem Thomas, I don't
Speaker 1: know if you know, but brother, he does not pass
Speaker 1: the ball like you have to dribble that ship. So
Speaker 1: but I do see he is very good at catching
Speaker 1: shooting too, though, which is a huge plus. Yeah it is.
Speaker 4: But I do see the Jayla Duran of him getting better,
Speaker 4: like especially if he adds a mid range shot that
Speaker 4: we've seen a little bit and it's obviously there because
Speaker 4: he has he shoots a good clip from the free
Speaker 4: throw percentage. So like I think that a free throw,
Speaker 4: I mean, like a mid range jumper could be added
Speaker 4: to his game. That truly helps out this offense in
Speaker 4: Kate a lot as well, because now he's not just
Speaker 4: standing in the paint or only teams are not only
Speaker 4: looking to see him in the paint around the painted
Speaker 4: area to score. He can step out and hit that
Speaker 4: you know, mid range up hopeful.
Speaker 1: You're hopeful, No, I've seen you are. I mean we've
Speaker 1: seen it. We've seen it.
Speaker 4: So I mean, if he can, so each time, you know,
Speaker 4: you go to the offseason, you want to keep developing
Speaker 4: and enhancing those skills. If he enhances those skills even
Speaker 4: pass to what he just did, now you're looking at
Speaker 4: a way better Jandla Duran. You're looking at Jala during
Speaker 4: that can now score from the mid range.
Speaker 1: That's never been the number two in a championship team
Speaker 1: though never.
Speaker 4: No, I'm not saying that I'm saying I'm saying that,
Speaker 4: though I know I'm not saying.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, brother, that you can get better?
Speaker 2: Are you help me win a championship?
Speaker 1: We've got win? Be taking a discount.
Speaker 2: You want the most money you can get, and I
Speaker 2: can't guarantee that you'll be the second best guy on
Speaker 2: my team while I'm paying you to be the second
Speaker 2: best guy.
Speaker 1: One thing.
Speaker 4: The money is one thing, but all the play.
Speaker 2: Himself to player himself. If we got my discount, would
Speaker 2: love it. But the money he wants to and the
Speaker 2: money's gonna make and you take you take him. If
Speaker 2: I would want more than just MPJ and that exchange,
Speaker 2: I'll say that, like give me, give me some assets
Speaker 2: or something, because I can't guarantee he's gonna sign and
Speaker 2: I'm always gonna sign four.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be a lot of money. And if you're
Speaker 4: jailing Duran, you're number one. You're trade away five years
Speaker 4: of service for just one guarantee. Jalen Duran is gonna
Speaker 4: sign this contract. At the end of the day, he's
Speaker 4: going to sign this thirty he might not.
Speaker 1: He will, he might take he might take the bet
Speaker 1: on himself. It happens a lot. His agent would be
Speaker 1: doing him. His agent has already thrown vice. But and
Speaker 1: then you you you tie in.
Speaker 4: The fact is that they're going to end up assigning
Speaker 4: signing sar to around you know, that thirty to thirty
Speaker 4: five million dollar contract as well when the cap goes up.
Speaker 4: Now you look at the Pistons and they're in a
Speaker 4: way better spot because now they have two players that
Speaker 4: are you know, making under forty million, and then you
Speaker 4: have Kate and you could add another piece onto that.
Speaker 4: It's not just you know, necessarily per se like them
Speaker 4: going in from Michael Porter Junior and then he wants
Speaker 4: to get paid you know, forty five million dollars as well.
Speaker 4: It's a little bit different now you have your your
Speaker 4: money is differently.
Speaker 1: Yeah, your money's definitely tied up. That's the one thing
Speaker 1: is the contracts wouldn't max or wouldn't match, and he
Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to get paid as much as he did,
Speaker 1: which I don't think he he's gonna make that either.
Speaker 1: I don't think Michael Porter Junior is gonna make forty
Speaker 1: million dollars on his next contract. He already got the
Speaker 1: roll at that dice didn't live up to it like,
Speaker 1: and he has the injury problems that is there too.
Speaker 6: So in this, in this, in this cap climate where
Speaker 6: we're seeing people squeezed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, every nobody's giving Michael Porter Junior unless you want
Speaker 1: to play for the nets, and he obviously doesn't want to.
Speaker 1: And this is someone banging my fist on table. You
Speaker 1: gotta go do it, You gotta go do it, you
Speaker 1: gotta go do it. I just think go sniff around.
Speaker 2: No, for sure, it's definitely where situation with contract being involved,
Speaker 2: and you have to give it a dinner like that.
Speaker 1: So let me let me commit it.
Speaker 6: What I what I understand would be the perfect scenario
Speaker 6: for the Pisses to acquire them. It would have to
Speaker 6: be past December fifteenth, when all the contracts are eligible
Speaker 6: for trade. You then have guys like Kevin Hurder that
Speaker 6: can be packaged along with Ron holland Dunket Robinson. You
Speaker 6: might not even have to package Junkie Robinson. They're really
Speaker 6: the key here would be for the Pistons for Trajan
Speaker 6: to use that trade that trade exception, I believe it's
Speaker 6: anywhere from fifteen to twenty million. I gotta double check
Speaker 6: what it is. But but use that get a player
Speaker 6: that just fills that salary.
Speaker 12: Yeah, it just fills that salary.
Speaker 6: Because then if you get it, if you get a
Speaker 6: player right now that with a trade exception that's literally
Speaker 6: just contract space, that's contract space, you can then use
Speaker 6: that as an aggregate in the trade for MPJ. So
Speaker 6: you could essentially get the trade exception player which is
Speaker 6: making fifteen to twenty million plus Kevin Herder plus Roden
Speaker 6: Holland gets you MPJ. You don't have to touch Duncan
Speaker 6: Robinson in that trade.
Speaker 1: Would I look at the biggest part of this, like
Speaker 1: you said, Chris, that they said, like the NET said
Speaker 1: that they want to trade him before the season if
Speaker 1: they can't extend him. Nobody's going to trade for Michael
Speaker 1: Porter Junior on a forty million dollar contract with a
Speaker 1: back injury expiring expiring for what they expect to get
Speaker 1: from I would be very surprised if they moved Michael
Speaker 1: Porter Junior before the season without taking a very very
Speaker 1: low offer.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think that's the Key there too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, one from Karris, one from Stu, fifteen from Stu,
Speaker 2: fourteen point eight from Karris.
Speaker 12: Okay, So that's twenty nine in total.
Speaker 6: So go get twenty nine plays million dollars worth of
Speaker 6: salary that you can aggregate in trades. That's gonna make
Speaker 6: you a lot easier to move on trader like that
Speaker 6: would be my advice. But we got to remember that
Speaker 6: the same discussion we're having here about how like this
Speaker 6: isn't the right time for the Pissons to trade. That's
Speaker 6: every team free agency just happens. So like like you
Speaker 6: were saying, Spencer, like every team has players now that
Speaker 6: they can't trade till December fifteenth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's gonna be a hard
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a hard time for them to find
Speaker 1: a place for Michael Porter Jr. It is just postraing.
Speaker 1: I think I would be very surprised if they got
Speaker 1: a deal with him done, getting a return that they
Speaker 1: would accept. Like, the only way I can see them
Speaker 1: getting a deal done before the season starts is if
Speaker 1: they're just like, fuck it, we want to get rid
Speaker 1: of him. We'll take a small player in some second.
Speaker 4: Round picks, and then the team is also gonna have
Speaker 4: to you know, MPJ and the team that he is
Speaker 4: traded too, are gonna have to come to terms on
Speaker 4: a contract extension.
Speaker 1: Yeah, before that trade even takes And that's another Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's another risk of it for the team trading for him.
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, we don't we don't want to.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I think the Pistons are better off in a spot
Speaker 4: now where you just wait until the deadline. You wait
Speaker 4: until the trade deadline, because then you're gonna have more
Speaker 4: options to trade for. Like Tyler Hero is definitely gonna
Speaker 4: be available at the trade down l he's done his
Speaker 4: last year. Unless Milwaukee is actually planning on building around
Speaker 4: them long term, which I don't think that is a case,
Speaker 4: then you're gonna have an MPJ to you know, at
Speaker 4: the trade dem.
Speaker 1: I think with Tyler Herro, what Milwaukee wants is to
Speaker 1: sell a ship ton of jerseys for a year and
Speaker 1: then get him out of there. They can. They want
Speaker 1: him the ball on a team where he is, and
Speaker 1: you can get Tyler Herro at the deadline, you trade
Speaker 1: all of the you know, the Garrris, the Torrian Princess,
Speaker 1: all those guards that you just brought in, you get
Speaker 1: them all in a first round pick to my or
Speaker 1: to Milwaukee for Tyler Herro at the deadline boom.
Speaker 6: And for the record, I'm good with the one year.
Speaker 6: I'm good with the one year rental. Like obviously you
Speaker 6: want him on a team Fredly deal, but like we
Speaker 6: saw it work with Toronto with Kawhi, like you know
Speaker 6: like that. I know, I know heroes, not Kawhi. Hear
Speaker 6: me out. But what I'm saying is like I'm okay
Speaker 6: with I'm okay with the risk of acquiring and expiring CONTs.
Speaker 1: I agree because you're not gonna have to give up
Speaker 1: that much. You gotta give it. You get burned on
Speaker 1: Tyler Herrow for a first round whatever this market is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we got a couple of super chets and then we
Speaker 1: got a non super chat that's really good that I
Speaker 1: want to read in there. Got Dante's from earlier.
Speaker 2: Uh he says, uh Durrant or as one called him,
Speaker 2: Duran to screw himself worally Durren is becoming the bad
Speaker 2: guy with Wimby's becoming the good guy in the NBA.
Speaker 2: That's a spot on take facts Durren's made himself look
Speaker 2: like an asshole. Look at himself looked like that. I mean,
Speaker 2: you still tell you what.
Speaker 1: You want to do? Stopping. No, no, no, it's Durrant.
Speaker 1: Bro Durn agent speaks for him. If Durren wanted to
Speaker 1: sign with the Pistons for thirty five million dollars, he
Speaker 1: would be signed with the Pistons for thirty five million dollars.
Speaker 1: Uh Luigi gaming with the super Chats says, why is
Speaker 1: Jeff so brick for Durrant? He's in his d MS.
Speaker 1: I don't know ship. I just see.
Speaker 4: I just see the talent that he has, and he can.
Speaker 1: But you can't pay for ship that you could see.
Speaker 1: You pay for ship you could touch. Pause don cute.
Speaker 2: That's why I say with them, asked me to pay
Speaker 2: for something you mine.
Speaker 1: With the super chat, he says, funny how every player
Speaker 1: is a perfect fit. I mean every player that can score. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, if you if you've if you got a
Speaker 1: three four that can get his own bucket and shoots
Speaker 1: a high percentage from three, yeah, that's a perfect fit.
Speaker 1: And on pretty much all these guys have.
Speaker 2: Been yeah, trying to make fun of it being a
Speaker 2: perfect fit. Brother, we got second round lest Yeah, like
Speaker 2: their needs there. This team needs not once, not not
Speaker 2: us what this team needs another player, this team they
Speaker 2: get to stretch the floor, place within at offense.
Speaker 1: It's just what do we doing? Yeah, it would be
Speaker 1: great fit. All right, let's go to break. Uh, we'll
Speaker 1: come back. We'll keep talking pistons because we do have
Speaker 1: tangible pistons that we could talk about because I Buco
Speaker 1: Cory made his NBA debut last night in the Summer League,
Speaker 1: and I thought he looked damn good, but some other
Speaker 1: players might not have. So we'll break down the Piston
Speaker 1: Summer League game and what happened against Philly. But first
Speaker 1: we gotta double up, I believe. So tell us about
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Speaker 1: the three minutes quick? Yeah? So chl Larry.
Speaker 2: Larry is if your boss promised you money the year
Speaker 2: before by saying, all you have to do is prove
Speaker 2: yourself and then you wouldn't wait and then you do it,
Speaker 2: wouldn't you be mad if you didn't get paid.
Speaker 1: He's being offered. He got offered the money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he got offered more money than he was offered
Speaker 2: the previous year. He was offered that money.
Speaker 1: He has offered the fair amount of money that he
Speaker 1: proved he was worth. And then he's the boss. The
Speaker 1: boss was even cool.
Speaker 2: The boss was like, you know what, you think you'll
Speaker 2: be better, Like, we'll match you know't go see who's
Speaker 2: willing to pay you more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then we'll match you there and nobody else
Speaker 1: is willing to do it. Yeah, Sacramento, Sacramento wasn't willing
Speaker 1: to pay by mommy even post if you would have
Speaker 1: had one other team in the NBA, one other team
Speaker 1: in the NBA, say, Jalen durn, I believe you are
Speaker 1: worth that much money. You would be making it for
Speaker 1: the Pistons right now, but you didn't. And so is
Speaker 1: that on the big bad Pistons or is that on
Speaker 1: your own failure in the playoffs? And then what did
Speaker 1: he want the hundred million doc contract to begin the
Speaker 1: season last year? Right? It was twenty five millionar Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, he went he wanted thirty thirty beginning the season,
Speaker 2: lesson is offered.
Speaker 12: Allegedly it was.
Speaker 1: Thirty in the beginning of the season. Yes, I think
Speaker 1: he wanted that. He wanted he wanted thirty. Oh, I
Speaker 1: think it was either he wanted. I remember we did
Speaker 1: the show and it was it came out saying he
Speaker 1: wanted between thirty and forty million at the beginning of
Speaker 1: the season.
Speaker 5: I think the questions offered him twenty five.
Speaker 1: I can't.
Speaker 2: He wasn't worth that then, dude. And he wasn't even
Speaker 2: fucking nowhere's sniffing that. I thought it was twenty four or.
Speaker 6: He knew exactly what he was going to do. He
Speaker 6: wanted the regular season and flill out in the playoffs.
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Speaker 1: the summer League. Shout out to you guys, welcome back.
Speaker 1: Whatward happy way. It's five to sevens Meemo, Reax, be easy,
Speaker 1: Hame and Chris. Make sure you smash that lug button
Speaker 1: and share the stream. But I see somebody in there
Speaker 1: first of all, Jermaine Royster. You got me there. You
Speaker 1: guys are the champs. Can't say anything about that, but
Speaker 1: we did beat you four times buy an average of
Speaker 1: thirty this year, so you got lucky. You ducked us
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Where was shit? Where was this chip?
Speaker 1: For a do it effortless eighty three ninety six? He says,
Speaker 1: stop being cheap. Either you believe in Duran or not.
Speaker 1: If you don't believe in him, sign and trade him.
Speaker 1: Get this over with. Uh No, man, that's not how
Speaker 1: the NBA works anymore. Brother. You have too much at
Speaker 1: stake with these aprons. If you go over the apron
Speaker 1: for the wrong person, it will criminally destroy your franchise. Man,
Speaker 1: you cannot just throw out forty million dollars, willy nilly,
Speaker 1: Not anymore. You used to be able to get away
Speaker 1: with it. Sure you can add another one, you can
Speaker 1: go over the tax with the owner elite that anyways. No,
Speaker 1: the Aprons will destroy your team if you go into
Speaker 1: them with the wrong players. You can't just say, oh,
Speaker 1: we like him, We're gonna give him forty million. Not anymore.
Speaker 1: That's how the league was. Mike Conley was getting one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty million dollar contracts. Not anymore.
Speaker 4: I mean the Boston Celtics had to get rid of
Speaker 4: Jalen Jaylen Brown for the reason that these Aprons were
Speaker 4: that serious they were. They had to find a way
Speaker 4: to clear up the catch space to actually have a team,
Speaker 4: and Brown was the calesier team or that, because you
Speaker 4: can't have two players making over three hundred million dollars
Speaker 4: on the same team.
Speaker 12: They literally had an MVP candidate last year. And then
Speaker 12: they said, you know what, we have to get rid
Speaker 12: of the ships.
Speaker 2: If you want to get paid paid, I gotta know
Speaker 2: what you're gonna be, not hope, what you're gonna be, Yes,
Speaker 2: you gotta touch it.
Speaker 6: That's why I feel like that thirty thirty five tenth
Speaker 6: best center in the NBA.
Speaker 12: Like as far as contract goes, that feels fair.
Speaker 6: Like that feels because there's a boom or bust to it,
Speaker 6: Like he could be he could end up being the
Speaker 6: twentieth best playoffs center, or he could be the or
Speaker 6: he could be, you know, like a top five center
Speaker 6: in the NBA.
Speaker 12: Like he looked for stretches during the regular season.
Speaker 6: So I think that right now it's a very fair
Speaker 6: contract for Jalen during I think he should take it.
Speaker 6: I think he will take it.
Speaker 1: I don't see him doing the yes too man, because
Speaker 1: he's gonna he's gonna take thirty five million dollars a year.
Speaker 1: Spare me if I don't feel bad for guy making
Speaker 1: thirty five million dollars a year. But and then at
Speaker 1: the end of that contract, when he's I don't know,
Speaker 1: twenty five, twenty six years old, he'll if he is
Speaker 1: truly worth it and he truly develops and he becomes
Speaker 1: this demi god type bill, then he'll make forty million
Speaker 1: dollars a year. Do what comes back to the finder's take,
Speaker 1: This is my point. Looks bad. It looks bad.
Speaker 2: You don't want to be doing as that chief team
Speaker 2: kay kennyem got paid. Yeah, I k they were. They
Speaker 2: weren't cheap with Kunny and they pay k Cunny handsomely.
Speaker 2: I know, I because Kate Cunym fucking deserved it. K
Speaker 2: Cunym earned it. Nobody's looking at the pissos of their
Speaker 2: cheap asses. But that's that's smart management. I wouldn't want
Speaker 2: to because nobody want to fucking pay John Drt anyway.
Speaker 1: He's not looking cheap man. He's not worth the money
Speaker 1: he gave Kate a little sprinkle on top of that too.
Speaker 1: I mean what it's other teams is available restricted free agent.
Speaker 1: You can offer Jalen Durton.
Speaker 2: You can pay Jalen Durn, we can sign trade for
Speaker 2: Jalen durn Nobody wants to do it because it's not
Speaker 2: worth that money.
Speaker 1: It's not hard, it's not a bad look. See what
Speaker 1: it is. The market dictates it. You couldn't even sign
Speaker 1: and trade him. Teams weren't willing to. Now.
Speaker 4: I think he's getting horrible advice from his his whole team,
Speaker 4: like the not thinking that this is market value and
Speaker 4: this is what you're going to earn, and this is
Speaker 4: the best that you're gonna earn from.
Speaker 2: Any of you think Wimby's team was like Womby, you
Speaker 2: should take less. Womby's I want to take less.
Speaker 1: You can't. You're doing that way too much. Like he's
Speaker 1: a part of his team. It's on him. It comes
Speaker 1: down to, it's on him, and especially.
Speaker 6: Now, like I honestly would be shocked if this deal
Speaker 6: isn't done in the next coming days here because look,
Speaker 6: the Pistons made their moves, like their numbers are set,
Speaker 6: like that's it. We have this range of money we
Speaker 6: can offer you, and you know what, maybe like if
Speaker 6: if you really, if you really hate this contractor and
Speaker 6: if you really think you're underpaid, that take the qualifying
Speaker 6: offer or negotiate shorter term, say hey, I want to
Speaker 6: do two or three years of instead of uh, instead
Speaker 6: of five. I think the pisses would probably do that
Speaker 6: because the pisses aren't fully confident in paying you max money,
Speaker 6: because they would have offered it to you if they could,
Speaker 6: so I.
Speaker 1: Think that anybody would have. Yeah, yeah, I think that it's.
Speaker 6: A scenario where look, Jalen Dring, there are multiple ways out.
Speaker 6: You should get it done. Because now the pisses have
Speaker 6: made their moves. We we know that they're pretty much
Speaker 6: inactive for the rest of the for the rest of
Speaker 6: the offseason, or at least we expect right now. Yeah,
Speaker 6: given their financial situations, you know the range you can offer.
Speaker 6: Let's just let's just get this done, or or just
Speaker 6: man up and take the qualifying offer and roll and
Speaker 6: see what it rolls with.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna sign the deal. I think so too.
Speaker 1: It would be. I think it would be. I think
Speaker 1: it would be dumb.
Speaker 12: Not too, I think so too.
Speaker 6: I think, like you said, the perfect point is that
Speaker 6: you are twenty five, twenty six, and if you want
Speaker 6: to hold this grudge for four years, fall out, yeah
Speaker 6: and then and then.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then go sign the Lakers for the king
Speaker 1: so much and to the point of like the relationship
Speaker 1: getting worse. I saw some comment shot to you guys,
Speaker 1: but like it's because you're not mature enough to understand
Speaker 1: you aren't worth that money. Yeah, that's what it is.
Speaker 2: Like we've they you're allowed to shop yourself, dude, Nobody
Speaker 2: wanted to pay you that goddamn money.
Speaker 1: Savant made, says low balling JD, but don't want to
Speaker 1: trade him. Is why free agents don't come to Detroit
Speaker 1: it's somebody else has to want the fucking guy. I
Speaker 1: don't understand, guys, what part of that are you understanding?
Speaker 1: To sign him, then he had to trade for him.
Speaker 1: He was restricted free agent, and yeah, we could have matched.
Speaker 1: It should have matched, would have matched probably, but it
Speaker 1: was out he was out there. You could have offered
Speaker 1: him a offer sheet. No one did it.
Speaker 12: No one did it.
Speaker 1: So every single GM in literally literally every single GM
Speaker 1: in the NBA has it out for Jalen durt That's
Speaker 1: what you're testing, you guys in the chatter telling us
Speaker 1: is that every single GM in the NBA is like,
Speaker 1: he's the one that we're gonna low ball.
Speaker 2: Then you have to get something worth value back, like
Speaker 2: the bonus what I've done it Sure, sure, just.
Speaker 1: Because I didn't want to lose Durham for nothing. But
Speaker 1: is it something you want it? No? No, no, And
Speaker 1: it's okay, like not everybody is a MAX player in
Speaker 1: this league. He's not cake on yet. It's pretty much
Speaker 1: clear and simple. Shout.
Speaker 2: The DNA says, if hating on a player to do
Speaker 2: fucking better in the playoffs that makes a player leave,
Speaker 2: than okay.
Speaker 1: If, like I said, if Duran went went out there
Speaker 1: and was putting up twenty and twenty in the playoffs
Speaker 1: a couple of games, he would have got forty million,
Speaker 1: no doubt, no doubt.
Speaker 4: I would have got the buddy didn't said they could
Speaker 4: have gave you.
Speaker 1: But he did not. Unfortunately, I wish he did. I
Speaker 1: wish we were sitting here saying we just signed the
Speaker 1: best young center in the NBA to a max contract.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be a piston for life. Look at what
Speaker 1: they did in the playoffs. They're only gonna get better.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately that ship didn't happen.
Speaker 4: We'd be NBA champions. Yes, yes, we'd be the NBA champions.
Speaker 1: If he was putting up twenty and twenty, we probably
Speaker 1: would be tell him and he got like cool taking
Speaker 1: Durham bag.
Speaker 2: I got still like during this team is just like
Speaker 2: you gotta know you're worth, shut your mouth and know
Speaker 2: your role with as a Rock would say.
Speaker 6: And again, man, you can like you can hold this
Speaker 6: as a grudge in three to four years from now
Speaker 6: if you really feel like you got disrespected as a man,
Speaker 6: that go ahead, walk out. But like Jayalen Duran, take
Speaker 6: the money, like just take it man, or.
Speaker 1: Take the qualifying offer and then or better on yourself
Speaker 1: if you don't think thirty five is.
Speaker 2: Enough, finete, says the Celtics looked at what Darren want
Speaker 2: and said, fuck that, we're going to.
Speaker 1: He had two meetings with the Lakers, two meetings and
Speaker 1: then they signed Walker Kessler for three. He was looking
Speaker 1: for too much money from any team in the NBA.
Speaker 1: That's why he didn't get an offer sheet.
Speaker 2: And I think if Walker Kestler had k Cunny and
Speaker 2: he'd be thirteen NBA as well and the Lakers.
Speaker 1: I thought that the day I felt dirty about it.
Speaker 1: I asked whatever people like, No, that's fair.
Speaker 6: The Lakers also said, you know what, not only doing
Speaker 6: Walt Walker Kessler, but here are all our draft capital too.
Speaker 6: Here's here you go, you tah. That's how much they
Speaker 6: didn't want Jalen Duran at the end of the day.
Speaker 6: So it's the market that was playing. This isn't something
Speaker 6: that This isn't something that the pisses are villains for,
Speaker 6: Like the pissons have expressed the entire time that they
Speaker 6: want Jalen during back. Yeah, so I don't think that
Speaker 6: Jalen Duran has a right to be pissed at the
Speaker 6: Pistols at all.
Speaker 1: It's the entire NBA now, it's it's there. There is
Speaker 1: absolutely no reason for him to be upset with the
Speaker 1: Pistons being more than there. He is absolutely he and
Speaker 1: he he even said he literally told him, we will
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Speaker 2: damn sort of this one. I mean, the NBA GM's
Speaker 2: feel the same way.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I feel I feel good aligning with all NBA gms.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, we got it right, yeah collectively. I mean,
Speaker 1: the only think that scares me is that Sacramento is
Speaker 1: on our side too. Well, Sacramento kind of not.
Speaker 2: They entertained it, they just couldn't do it without trading anyone.
Speaker 2: And we didn't want fucking sibonus on a forty six
Speaker 2: million dollars contract.
Speaker 1: They were like, nah, what was good?
Speaker 2: We also except what they offered. Oh they didn't even
Speaker 2: offer them though, you're right, but they could afford them.
Speaker 1: Tell us, tell us what we did. Listen, man, Listen, listen, listen, listen.
Speaker 2: I haven't been this excited about a Detroit Pistons prospect.
Speaker 1: Since Kate Cunny.
Speaker 2: I'm being dead ass. And then you go and watch
Speaker 2: Abukah Corey in this game last night. I had to
Speaker 2: go home watching an NBA TV because we're digging around
Speaker 2: here trying to get it set up and everything like that.
Speaker 2: But he also delivered you everything that was promised, everything
Speaker 2: that you bought him for. You're invested in him for
Speaker 2: the draft, pick and trade enough to get him. That's
Speaker 2: what you saw on the floor last night. That's just
Speaker 2: the smooth handles, clean, not turn the ball over. I
Speaker 2: think last night the coaches there are like, we need
Speaker 2: you to play point guard. By the way, only one
Speaker 2: year playing point He's a shooting guard in high school.
Speaker 2: Only one year playing point guard. Like that's why they're
Speaker 2: forcing it in summer League. He showed you he can
Speaker 2: do it playmaking. And then when he's like fuck this,
Speaker 2: I'm going to that right hand, Oh my god, oh Mike,
Speaker 2: he's better than Jaden Ivy and Jady Ivy's a fifth
Speaker 2: overall pick. This class was insane.
Speaker 1: He's a lot more skilled. I'm not gonna book and
Speaker 1: knocking down the three because this lead to it. They
Speaker 1: was what two for five? Yeah, last night he was
Speaker 1: the you know, the acc point leader last year. His
Speaker 1: stocks last night, Yeah, the guy gets buckets. He they
Speaker 1: talked about, you know, his active hands in passing lanes,
Speaker 1: which was on his scouting report as well. But he
Speaker 1: talked about himself being disruptive and wanting to be a
Speaker 1: player that could be disruptive defensively, which he felt he did.
Speaker 1: And yeah, it is the summer league, but it's good
Speaker 1: to see him go out there. And you saw the
Speaker 1: skills that were advertised be too much for the summer
Speaker 1: league to handle, which is what you need. The speed
Speaker 1: was there finishing amongst the trees. I know it's summer league.
Speaker 1: Those guys are still six eight seven feet tall that
Speaker 1: he's finishing around. And there were a couple of tough
Speaker 1: buckets that he hit in the lane that I really liked.
Speaker 1: The way he was getting defenders on his hip, probing,
Speaker 1: getting contact. These are all things that you didn't have
Speaker 1: and not a single person on your roster outside of
Speaker 1: Kate Cunningham could do last year, So it was impressive
Speaker 1: to see that he's got obvious continue to show that.
Speaker 1: And I agree with you, Easy. I think the Pistons
Speaker 1: coaching staff said, could he go out there and drop
Speaker 1: forty if he just shot the ball thirty times like
Speaker 1: Darius Acuff did, No shade, that's my guy. I want
Speaker 1: him to be better. But yeah, he could have, but
Speaker 1: they wanted to see how he would do running the show,
Speaker 1: because he's going to be running the show off of
Speaker 1: the bench for the Pistons. And as Easy pointed out,
Speaker 1: the handle was tight. There were a few turnovers, he
Speaker 1: was making the right decision and I loved the things
Speaker 1: I saw from him. Absolutely.
Speaker 6: It was the control that he played with, the way
Speaker 6: that he had a feel for the game, and we
Speaker 6: know that very well in Detroit because almost nobody in
Speaker 6: the NBA does that better than k kut him. And
Speaker 6: he showed a shade of a shade of that of
Speaker 6: feeling when to pick his spots, being passive in the
Speaker 6: first half at least in terms of shooting, and then
Speaker 6: kind of forcing the issue in the second half. So
Speaker 6: I thought that he was great decision making. I thought
Speaker 6: his discipline just was great. He was making all of
Speaker 6: the reason he was doing the right things. He was
Speaker 6: putting him on the hip. He was sprayed it out
Speaker 6: to the corner.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 12: Was he was dropping it off to the big who
Speaker 12: didn't have hands.
Speaker 1: Like he was a couple of times.
Speaker 12: Yeah, you could have had double looks like yeah, he could.
Speaker 1: Off the dribble.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, anybody else step back, yes,
Speaker 2: like this. I'm excited, man, I'm excited. Yes, like you said,
Speaker 2: it great easy. It's everything that was showcase on the
Speaker 2: tape was confirmed. Like, that's what I That's what I
Speaker 2: loved about.
Speaker 6: The creativity, the finishing at the rim, the smoothness of
Speaker 6: the step back, the gathering the handle. It was all
Speaker 6: very It was all very good. The discipline. I love
Speaker 6: where where his head's at. Like I mean, the fact
Speaker 6: that he came in and in his press conference one
Speaker 6: of the things he highlighted was that I don't turn
Speaker 6: the ball over. That's very un That's very rare for
Speaker 6: a for an eighteen year old kid to come up
Speaker 6: there and not say, oh yeah, I feel like I
Speaker 6: could I could score at the next level. I feel
Speaker 6: like I can help you at the He said, no,
Speaker 6: I will take care of the ball at the next level.
Speaker 6: That was really impressive to the defense. The defense man,
Speaker 6: I just I'm jump lanes steels. It's very hard not
Speaker 6: to buy into it because I want to, like I
Speaker 6: want to just go all in and say that this
Speaker 6: guy is offensively the Robin Decaide one day.
Speaker 1: But I think you impressed me.
Speaker 2: Is like Spinica the thirteen and a half points per
Speaker 2: game this year every thirteen three.
Speaker 1: Sorry, that's true. It is true. I remember get it
Speaker 1: right and a point two. You could come back to fight.
Speaker 1: I think you could do it. I think I think
Speaker 1: you could do it.
Speaker 2: I think it's gould be given every opportunity to do so.
Speaker 2: Like Dannis is probably sweat and watching that bitch.
Speaker 12: Danis doesn't play with that controller.
Speaker 1: No, the control, the poise, And like I said, what
Speaker 1: stood out to me the most on his tape, which
Speaker 1: is what stood out to me the most on k
Speaker 1: Cunningham's tape as well, is the NBA level shot making
Speaker 1: the in the lane with three people around you, still
Speaker 1: getting the layup up and in the leaner to the left,
Speaker 1: hitting it off your foot, the pump, fake reset like
Speaker 1: that stuff. That's how you get buckets in the league.
Speaker 1: In college anybody can run and dunk, anybody can hit
Speaker 1: open threes, you can get out in transition. It's a
Speaker 1: lot sloppier in the NBA, specifically in the playoffs. Tough buckets,
Speaker 1: ugly buckets, contested buckets. That's how you win games. And
Speaker 1: that's what he did at an extremely high level. And
Speaker 1: I know, again it's just the summer league, but he
Speaker 1: was doing it at this level too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna be a learning curve as he enters
Speaker 4: the true NBA season, but he's going to end up
Speaker 4: in fourth quarters closing the game with Kate Gunning, Yes,
Speaker 4: And they're gonna start to do that right away because
Speaker 4: this kid, he has a special talent of putting the
Speaker 4: ball inside the bucket. Like when I looked at his game,
Speaker 4: one of the things that stood out to me was
Speaker 4: the way he split defenders.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't just two, it was three.
Speaker 4: He'd get past the original guy, which is it's hard
Speaker 4: to stay in front of someone that is that quick
Speaker 4: and can move within the pocket of the defense and
Speaker 4: just that little tryum comfortably comfortably with a great handle
Speaker 4: and not out of control.
Speaker 1: Control is one thing.
Speaker 4: He pushes the ball past the defenders and then literally
Speaker 4: just goes out and gets it. Just literally I'm faster,
Speaker 4: I'll get to that spot before you, and then I'm
Speaker 4: gonna finish with the layer.
Speaker 2: And then the thing too, is like I'm just thinking
Speaker 2: about like we gotta sorry, We're like we're hoping he
Speaker 2: can shoot. We hope we could do this ron he
Speaker 2: can develop into this Like this is literally early about Yes,
Speaker 2: you know everything you invested into he showcased. It's one
Speaker 2: summer league game, it is, but you will my goal
Speaker 2: out there for my rookies when I want you to
Speaker 2: look like you don't belong, Yes, and I feel you
Speaker 2: did for the most part, especially in his first game
Speaker 2: nineteen years old, twenty points.
Speaker 1: And he could have had more and going in and
Speaker 1: going in the chest to fuck you trade, just stacking
Speaker 1: efficient bucket getters like he is building the light side
Speaker 1: of the force against this this this awful brand of
Speaker 1: basketball that's taking over the league. And even in him
Speaker 1: Abuka like obviously he's not gonna get the calls right away,
Speaker 1: but coming off the bench as a first round draft
Speaker 1: pick leading the second unit, you'll get a better call
Speaker 1: than some people. And he can draw fouts and they
Speaker 1: were picking up full court yes, at least when we
Speaker 1: were watching here. Can't stand in front of him. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I really like him, and we talked about
Speaker 1: in the end of playoff games last year Danis was
Speaker 1: out there closing the game out because because Usar or
Speaker 1: I mean, because Duncan Robinson, you know, is getting hunted
Speaker 1: and things like that. I'm watching it right now, man, Abuka,
Speaker 1: if he's the one finishing game, I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen this year, but that's what we talked
Speaker 1: about when they drafted him, is he's gonna be the
Speaker 1: one out there finishing with kid because he can make shots.
Speaker 1: Because if the pick and roll with Cad doesn't break
Speaker 1: down and the shooters in the corner are covered, you
Speaker 1: kick it to Abuka and he will make something out
Speaker 1: of nothing with six seconds left on the shot clock.
Speaker 1: I rewatching him right now, man, I can't. I can't
Speaker 1: sta even the second Sariy jumped ahead of it, the
Speaker 1: guy's guard we saying, that's exactly what I'm talking about,
Speaker 1: defenders finishing in traffic contested shots. It was. It was
Speaker 1: extremely impressive. You'll want to turn on look that he
Speaker 1: wanted to the humble guy can't try thumb ass stupid
Speaker 1: game bucket dude.
Speaker 6: He is. And the and the crazy part too, is
Speaker 6: the NBA more than probably any other sport. Now granted
Speaker 6: there's position, there's some positions within other sports, but like
Speaker 6: the NBA in general is the league where you could
Speaker 6: come in and you can like be that guy right away,
Speaker 6: like like for sure, you know, like the NFL, you
Speaker 6: know you got stuff. But yeah, I mean kN Kupple
Speaker 6: came in last year just fucking but like I didn't
Speaker 6: see that coming at all. Like this kid has all
Speaker 6: its making and I'm starting the NBA Sentil rumor right now.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna I'm starting that NBA Sentil rumor right now.
Speaker 6: He grew two inches.
Speaker 1: There you go. Yeah, came into camp.
Speaker 2: The one thing I'll say, just because I'm watching right
Speaker 2: now too, and this is I'm just trying to find
Speaker 2: something to say, let's see it from the left side.
Speaker 1: Now, you know every day was right there the right
Speaker 1: saying let's see him from the left side. But you
Speaker 1: can want confidence, you can do tape. Yeah, he's got
Speaker 1: the left hand, he left, don't worry about that.
Speaker 4: He got a left But one thing I'm gonna say
Speaker 4: is last year, you've seen multiple rookies come in and
Speaker 4: make their impact.
Speaker 1: VJ.
Speaker 4: Edgecombe, Cooper, Flag, You've seen con Now, not all of
Speaker 4: those guys went into the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I know VJ.
Speaker 4: Edgecomb did, but multiple of those rookies were over fifteen
Speaker 4: points per game.
Speaker 1: And Abuka he will have that role where he can
Speaker 1: achieve that. We broke it down many.
Speaker 4: You said that you know he might not start, which
Speaker 4: I don't think he will. I don't think he will
Speaker 4: start all season.
Speaker 1: I think he'll finish when it comes down. He's going to.
Speaker 4: Finish the fourth quarter with Kate gunning in because he.
Speaker 1: Guys don't forget he was a shooting guard before.
Speaker 4: And you have to look at the tape of what
Speaker 4: you've seen in the summer league. There was a couple
Speaker 4: of plays where he was off ball and then they
Speaker 4: ended up passing it to him. He then pump baked,
Speaker 4: made the guy jump up in the air, dribbled in
Speaker 4: step back for the three. Ye hit it like what
Speaker 4: you need alongside kid Cunning.
Speaker 1: Nobody do that.
Speaker 4: They were doubling him at half court. They were doubling
Speaker 4: Kate at half court. You're not gonna be.
Speaker 1: Able to do that with and if you double yeah,
Speaker 1: if you double Kid, that just gives him so much
Speaker 1: more space, let alone being one on one with a defender,
Speaker 1: but giving more space to work and could find his
Speaker 1: way to the basket. Well, you've got two guys on
Speaker 1: cade on in in the front court, like with the
Speaker 1: shooters with the shooter.
Speaker 6: Again, like watching that tape, imagine that, you know, instead
Speaker 6: of dumping off to no disrespect.
Speaker 12: I don't even know who it was. Instead of dumping off,
Speaker 12: just grab it and stand there.
Speaker 6: You're dump You're dumping off to Jalen Duran, who was
Speaker 6: the best finisher in the NBA at the Rim last season.
Speaker 6: Shoot he's seventy percent in the restricted area. Like, imagine
Speaker 6: you have you have that as your dump off option.
Speaker 6: As a BUKA, he is only going to be amplified
Speaker 6: by the talent around him.
Speaker 1: If John Collins can actually shoot forty from three on
Speaker 1: like three four attempts a game, the spacing the Pistons
Speaker 1: have next year will be discussed so much. Bag you
Speaker 1: will at all times next year have at least two
Speaker 1: forty three point shooters on the floor. Yeah, because Isaiah
Speaker 1: Kid's crying right now, Like that is the one thing though,
Speaker 1: tration did a good job because like Torrian Prince is
Speaker 1: a forty percent three point shooter two on four attempts
Speaker 1: the past two years.
Speaker 4: And that's the guy coming off the bench at yeah,
Speaker 4: eight and nine, and that's.
Speaker 1: All you need. Yeah, you don't need your your eighth
Speaker 1: bench guy to put up six shots, you know.
Speaker 6: So Yeah, man, Like I said, this team is regular
Speaker 6: season proof. We know it's we know it's flaws for
Speaker 6: the for the for the playoffs, but for the regular season,
Speaker 6: this team's gonna go out there. They're gonna punch people
Speaker 6: in the mouth, They're gonna hit it up now. They're
Speaker 6: gonna be able to hit threes. Last year they were
Speaker 6: beating you without even shooting threes. This team, this team
Speaker 6: is going to be regular season good. And again we're
Speaker 6: gonna see e Laite from Kay cutting him. I'm very
Speaker 6: confident we need when you're John Collins to be our
Speaker 6: tough guy.
Speaker 4: You're gonna see a kid that hast dark as hard
Speaker 4: Like I look at the shooting around this this Pistons
Speaker 4: team now and I see a reason why there's no
Speaker 4: reason why Kate wouldn't be able to average twelve assist.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if he if he chooses. No, I agree.
Speaker 4: I agree because like you know, like you're passing it
Speaker 4: to Isaiah Joe, like bro is probably gonna make that shot,
Speaker 4: especially when he's wide over.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Like I just.
Speaker 2: For the listeners too, Like I'm mister, like throw the
Speaker 2: cold water on ship. I'm saying like Ny saying Derek
Speaker 2: Moore seven eight sacks like three.
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not doing that ship. I'm like, I
Speaker 1: want to see it first. I got to see And
Speaker 1: that's the hype is worthy. Kids a bucket, Kids a bucket.
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Speaker 1: There was also a second round pick out there, guyes today.
Speaker 1: We want to talk about you. Two second round picks. Actually, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, I will say this to you. Who's the
Speaker 1: second one? Oh, we're not talking about Chance. Look, Chris,
Speaker 1: he looked bad. It's complicated. He still got faith that
Speaker 1: he's making the team. I'm disappointed in Chancelay. I mean,
Speaker 1: you was missing open three.
Speaker 8: This is the guy.
Speaker 1: Indeed, you cannot miss open threes at all.
Speaker 4: He was a guy in the G League that he
Speaker 4: was actually lighting it up in three. I thought that
Speaker 4: would translate into the Summer League.
Speaker 1: Boy, was I wrong? You were wrong?
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 1: But it's just one game. Yeah, maybe about thirty next game.
Speaker 1: Speaking of not mixing three, you see axel Oh he's yeah,
Speaker 1: he did it again. Yeah, three in a row. He's
Speaker 1: shooting like sixty five percent from three in the Summer League.
Speaker 2: I felt like a jackass, like like kind of throwing
Speaker 2: a fit about that one, because when I was so
Speaker 2: mad about not getting the X the night that we
Speaker 2: drafted Buka, I didn't allow myself to enjoy it at all.
Speaker 2: I was like, he's a guy, he's a guy, whatever,
Speaker 2: because I had my heart said on the Axe, I'm like,
Speaker 2: the piss is gonna get up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's Tobias replacement right there. But they did it
Speaker 1: him and mores Johnson bullet ball, And then I want
Speaker 1: to tell myself, maybe Axe is gonna be that.
Speaker 12: Sweet, like he's gonna be fucking I'm happy right now?
Speaker 1: Why are you happy because of bat? Still? Yeah, for
Speaker 1: sure you could have got both. Really you want is
Speaker 1: trying to get one of these stars.
Speaker 4: A BOOKA is better well not, I wouldn't say, but
Speaker 4: he has a better.
Speaker 1: He's more skilled. Yeah, he's only nineteen. The floor for
Speaker 1: him he has, he has a higher ceiling. But yax
Speaker 1: Will looked pretty good in his first that is fair.
Speaker 1: We do have to take into a fact that guy's
Speaker 1: twenty six ready. Johnny's fair, I don't. I just like
Speaker 1: the fit of like what we needed as before signed
Speaker 1: to him or would have been great on this team.
Speaker 1: And they both looked really.
Speaker 2: Good to watch Morena play against talking more like he
Speaker 2: he was just he's too big, he's too strong.
Speaker 1: He was also knocking down shots like Peter this draft classic.
Speaker 1: But Peterson he had fucking eight turnovers and nine five
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yeah eight turnovers. Yeah. See, he's like
Speaker 1: someone to me that has to be set up.
Speaker 2: There's only been like four players or Bomber, as much
Speaker 2: we kill Jeff for here this week, for that, uh,
Speaker 2: as much as I killed Jeff early this week for
Speaker 2: the killing and stuff.
Speaker 1: Bomber compared Peterson.
Speaker 2: To Kobe this week. And I didn't want to want
Speaker 2: put your stuff out there like that. You did that
Speaker 2: on stream if you were there for the for the
Speaker 2: draft watch party. Then he said it on stream and ill.
Speaker 1: I just like Chris, No, it's a joke. It's a joke.
Speaker 1: But yeah, Peterson and the Bonza they both looked. I
Speaker 1: mean you saw it with both of them. But they
Speaker 1: also didn't play good games. Not efficient. Yeah, with a
Speaker 1: cuff he's like six or twenty.
Speaker 2: It's so it's so wild sometimes like and we've we've
Speaker 2: been victims of it too, like Ron Holland an example
Speaker 2: of that too. But like like the top of the
Speaker 2: NBA draft sometimes will be like the potential picks. I'm saying,
Speaker 2: like Ron Ivy maybe even two. We're like, you can
Speaker 2: have this is a great, great, great, great, great great
Speaker 2: great fucking draft too, But like, you went too far
Speaker 2: with Ivy with potential.
Speaker 1: There was hype behind Ivy.
Speaker 2: I didn't want people to understand why the took my
Speaker 2: five was like, okay, this could be something special.
Speaker 1: There was never a chance for him to be an
Speaker 1: All Star, and yeah.
Speaker 2: There was, Jeff, I wish I knew you back then.
Speaker 2: I guarantee you saying them for sure, that's way too.
Speaker 1: Far, Jeff, I didn't. I actually was very angry at
Speaker 1: the Pistons picking. So it was easy. Easy said Troy
Speaker 1: Weaver is not stupid enough to draft Jade and Ivy,
Speaker 1: and he got fired, got.
Speaker 13: War.
Speaker 1: Actually I'm still at wore something I literally saw somebody
Speaker 1: today say, like when they were taking somebody said Buka
Speaker 1: like Piston's Twitter is awful, and somebody said he looks
Speaker 1: just like him, bro like doing a vague post, vague
Speaker 1: post king but he was talking about Jade and Ivy,
Speaker 1: and somebody in the comments said, no, not Ivy, he
Speaker 1: was special. What the fuck is wrong with you, guys. Man.
Speaker 4: At most, Ivy was gonna be a guy on this
Speaker 4: team that averaged twenty points and was able to create
Speaker 4: a little bit offside cunning him when when he was
Speaker 4: healthy before her and he took a dive into game.
Speaker 1: Buka's game is much more fine. It's it's much better
Speaker 1: for the modern NBA than Jade and Ivy's game. It
Speaker 1: is always wild. He was always he was. He was
Speaker 1: out of control a lot. But I can't know this
Speaker 1: guy literally, he was a star. I was like, bro,
Speaker 1: you gotta stop man. The guy's not dead, he's just
Speaker 1: out of the league. Like he wasn't got fired, he
Speaker 1: got fired. Buka showed us everything we needed from a
Speaker 1: first Summer League games. Wells, I agree, I agree it
Speaker 1: was shot. Answer called that pick. Shoutout as did call
Speaker 1: the pick? Want exactly give me Cory is a great call,
Speaker 1: great call, And like I said, I like the kid.
Speaker 1: I I really really like players that play like like
Speaker 1: that type like that type of ball is very pure hoops,
Speaker 1: it's pure like that's like Kyrie is one of my
Speaker 1: favorite players ever, Like I always loved like Lou Williams,
Speaker 1: Jamal Crawford, Kevin Durant like that type of bucket getting.
Speaker 1: It's it's fun to watch, man.
Speaker 2: It's like uh, I said, it's pure hoops. It's like
Speaker 2: Lebron great team five on five player. Yeah, Kobe saying
Speaker 2: like kill yeah, he will mur chop you fucking down
Speaker 2: by the I'm saying like.
Speaker 1: That's the type of style Corey's bringing. It's cool to
Speaker 1: have on this team. And since fuck, I mean Kate
Speaker 1: can do it. Fucking he don't got the micro Finny Johnson,
Speaker 1: he can't do it.
Speaker 4: But it's more of like with Kate, it's like he
Speaker 4: wants to get the teammates involved.
Speaker 1: He wants to be Yeah, no, he's player. He's a
Speaker 1: Lebron Bill the point guard. Yeah, like that's what he is.
Speaker 1: He's a point guard. And you know some people out
Speaker 1: there to tell you today he's not I don't know,
Speaker 1: under saying.
Speaker 4: Insane work for someone to averages ten assists per game.
Speaker 1: He's a point guard, buddy, and I did like to see. Also, again,
Speaker 1: I know it's summer league, but these are still some
Speaker 1: of them obviously actually twenty six plus. There are some
Speaker 1: some older guys who like they're not all nineteen. A
Speaker 1: lot of them are fully matured bodies, big six seven,
Speaker 1: two hundred and something pound bodies, and he wasn't getting
Speaker 1: pushed around. He was playing good defense, he wasn't getting
Speaker 1: pushed off too many blocks that he shouldn't have. So
Speaker 1: I like to see him looking physically there as well.
Speaker 4: Some of these guys are G League players that have
Speaker 4: been in the G League for at least three or
Speaker 4: four years, and they're, you know, kind of basically getting
Speaker 4: a shot to go out there and make an NBA
Speaker 4: roster or earn a two way contract. So yeah, I
Speaker 4: mean it, he's playing against experienced guys as well. Like
Speaker 4: and I like Chris, I know I brought up to
Speaker 4: you and in chat, but like I look at Cameron Carr,
Speaker 4: another guy that you know, we wanted the pissiness to
Speaker 4: get and he's balling, and it's like when you look
Speaker 4: at what they're doing and they're doing efficiently, that matters.
Speaker 1: Who could did it efficiently? John R says, you don't
Speaker 1: know ball Ivy was him until that cousin dove into
Speaker 1: his tibia.
Speaker 12: He was not.
Speaker 1: I mean, it definitely hurt his trajectory, but he was
Speaker 1: in no way him. But he wasn't him. He was
Speaker 1: like the Detroit Pisses at their all time worst record.
Speaker 1: Fucking ever, why do we still don't understand it? It
Speaker 1: drives me crazy excuse making for this guy.
Speaker 2: He's gone and you're still fucking strattled up to those
Speaker 2: things were we doing?
Speaker 6: Let me say this, it comes to when it comes
Speaker 6: to Ivy, I hate yes and we hate col Anthey.
Speaker 6: That was a very unfortunate situation. But the fact that
Speaker 6: that was the catalyst for the spiral that we saw.
Speaker 6: I mean, look, he was playing regular season basketball. Like
Speaker 6: we're having all these questions about Jalen Duran's mental like
Speaker 6: would you not be worried, like did Ivy not showcase
Speaker 6: clearly and inability to overcome adversity?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, in the mental aspect, In the mental aspect
Speaker 1: that that is true. He was mad at his teammates
Speaker 1: for fucking host dude like player hater of the year.
Speaker 1: Did you like it? Did it feel good? Was worth
Speaker 1: cheating on your wife? What he's talking about? There's only
Speaker 1: a couple married guys on the kind of narrows it down.
Speaker 1: A lot of them are young and single. And he's gone.
Speaker 1: Now is it twice? I don't want to cast anybody
Speaker 1: is coming back we'll speaking of shame, we do it now,
Speaker 1: we'll come back. I see we're up against it.
Speaker 2: But do you have a summer league crush that you
Speaker 2: did fall for and they end up flopping? Who's that
Speaker 2: guy in throughout the Hiss history, you call you your kid?
Speaker 1: I got on all right, let's get to him. We
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Speaker 17: You welcome back to say with the heavywds? Is it
Speaker 17: on the Woodwinds sports dot Com? I asked before they break,
Speaker 17: who is the guy you fell for that in the
Speaker 17: Summer League? He said, this guy he's going to be
Speaker 17: a guy.
Speaker 1: This must be him. Was it Henri La Song? Was
Speaker 1: it a Stanley Johnson? I have too. One of them
Speaker 1: is Henry Allinson? He was bald. Yeah, I was this.
Speaker 1: We got Mini Dirk. This guy is fucking nuts. He's
Speaker 1: gonna be our power forward. It's gonna be awesome. No,
Speaker 1: it wasn't. Wasn't Bill like that. Henry Allenson had me.
Speaker 1: And the other one was Austin Day. I thought Austin
Speaker 1: I thought Austin Day. I thought he watched. I was like, oh, man,
Speaker 1: like this guy, he's gonna perfectly fill in. He's Tasha
Speaker 1: on two point zero, he's got the wetter, he's big,
Speaker 1: he's tall, he's got he's got good defense and smarts.
Speaker 1: Like I thought Austin Day was gonna be a perfect
Speaker 1: fit into the NBA.
Speaker 12: Austin Day watched so Kevin Durant could run.
Speaker 1: That is what they say. Henry Allenson and Austin Day
Speaker 1: were my.
Speaker 6: Two biggest mine mine would honestly like the person that
Speaker 6: I feel like had the highest potential. They still worked
Speaker 6: out to be a fine NBA player. But I thought
Speaker 6: like k CT was gonna be one of the best
Speaker 6: guards in the league. He was lighting up summerly. I
Speaker 6: thought he was going to be like your you know,
Speaker 6: like you're literally your franchise, like quarter Stoke. But yeah,
Speaker 6: Henry Allison was obvious what he was just going to stupid.
Speaker 6: I thought Stocket a lot of a lot of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, to be fair, we were younger than too, like
Speaker 2: we were like kind of kids, and a lot of
Speaker 2: those dumb ass takes.
Speaker 1: Some of you in the chat pay mortgages. You got
Speaker 1: relaxed lit shit and I'm sham with the super chat
Speaker 1: real quick. Sorry, he says as a Christian adjacent believer,
Speaker 1: we need more atheist athletes in sports. As you ruined
Speaker 1: my pits. Let's not bring the lord into this one.
Speaker 1: It was not his fault. It's not his fault. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that was all those guys. Awesome day.
Speaker 2: Stanley Johnson The funked Up Part two is like Stanley
Speaker 2: Johnson is again kids. I would take him in two
Speaker 2: K and I was fucking he was my point guard,
Speaker 2: and that would be a bowling ball on the paint
Speaker 2: and just.
Speaker 1: Kicking out some shooters and fucking balling Stanley Johns, Stanley
Speaker 1: Johnson Johnson. That was That's realistic.
Speaker 12: Believe Stanley was only was one of them For me too,
Speaker 12: that was really up there.
Speaker 6: I said that before the break another guy that it
Speaker 6: was a summer league, but a player that I just
Speaker 6: like really bought into because I was super young, was
Speaker 6: a like I thought he was gonna be.
Speaker 1: Fucking five. I used to be jealous. I used to
Speaker 1: be jealous of.
Speaker 12: I love that guy for sure.
Speaker 1: He was a good veteran guard. I mean, Chris couldn't
Speaker 1: even talk yet.
Speaker 6: Actually, actually, my uncle who lives in Houston, he was
Speaker 6: like amazed because I started watching the Pisses during the
Speaker 6: playoff run where they won the championship, The first game
Speaker 6: I watched was the was a half court shot from
Speaker 6: Billups that we lost.
Speaker 12: And then fast forward the next year.
Speaker 6: Dude, I knew like everything about the Houston Rockets, like
Speaker 6: t Mac and all that, and he was like, he
Speaker 6: was like, holy ship, like you're not just a pisses fan.
Speaker 6: You're watching everything. I don't know how, it's just like
Speaker 6: I would. I went all into NBA. So I was
Speaker 6: already projecting like Aaron a Flower is like the next
Speaker 6: like the next superstar.
Speaker 2: That is the one thing that's grown up as a
Speaker 2: sports fans, like you have like family, and she'd be like,
Speaker 2: how do you know all this? And to you, it's
Speaker 2: because you're like don't you yeah, pick.
Speaker 1: It up along the way was impressed by like my
Speaker 1: aunts and uncle, like even some of my uncles and
Speaker 1: like my mom and s how do you know all
Speaker 1: of these numbers? I don't know.
Speaker 6: That's a good that's a good one to Peyton Siva,
Speaker 6: So I remember somebody who who I who?
Speaker 1: I knew.
Speaker 6: I wasn't cool with them, but he was like he
Speaker 6: was like a big he was a big u of
Speaker 6: m slappy and so he showed one. He showed one,
Speaker 6: Uh Trey Burke like pinned him against the glass Painte
Speaker 6: Siva in the championship and then Payne Siva actually copped
Speaker 6: it back on him. He's like, yeah, I remember my
Speaker 6: championship break too.
Speaker 1: I got to take him back. Though most I can't
Speaker 1: remember it that anymore. He doesn't have one.
Speaker 4: I'll give you a recent guy that I thought was
Speaker 4: gonna have.
Speaker 1: I forgot a good a good jump for you, buddy, A.
Speaker 4: Good jump in his second year in the NBA, and
Speaker 4: I thought it was Ron. I thought he was gonna
Speaker 4: be a lot more efficient from three, given the fact
Speaker 4: that in that summer league he actually shot the ball.
Speaker 4: Welcome to and he actually showed like some actual skill
Speaker 4: that you're on. I'm not out on him, but I
Speaker 4: just thought we would see a lot more of him
Speaker 4: in this you know that last season that just got
Speaker 4: ended and we didn't.
Speaker 1: I was really really disappointed that he didn't get run
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Yes, I'm not out on him, though
Speaker 1: I still think he can. He's not going to be
Speaker 1: a star or anything. That might be my worst take ever,
Speaker 1: but I think, uh, I he's got so much potential
Speaker 1: to at least be a very effective NBA player.
Speaker 6: This is goal one of two ways, because the fact
Speaker 6: I see him in summer league in short, so I'm like,
Speaker 6: I'm like, this is going one of either he's gonna
Speaker 6: either he's gonna take a leap where he's gonna crash
Speaker 6: the fun out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sham's bomb, says d n T or DNC d
Speaker 1: d T. Let's see. Uh fake money on.
Speaker 4: A five year, two hundred and fifty two million dollar
Speaker 4: maximum rookie scale contract for the San Antonio Spurs Victor Wamanyama.
Speaker 1: Five year, two fifty d two. Look, he already signed
Speaker 1: it today.
Speaker 6: Ye, Darren wanted five years to eighty seven. No way
Speaker 6: get out with the full max that Darren was. It
Speaker 6: does have a fifth Uh was the first tea?
Speaker 1: Yes? Oh yeah yeah? So wait, so what was the Jeff?
Speaker 6: You may know this because I don't remember this offhand,
Speaker 6: Like I know, like obviously getting all fifty per Yeah.
Speaker 1: He just came out there and said, yeah, I'll take
Speaker 1: a pay cut. But I don't know. Maybe he did
Speaker 1: this person that's the same kind of Lebrono. It's still
Speaker 1: pay cup and he still got paid.
Speaker 6: No, I don't know how it works because it's like
Speaker 6: you know, during made you know, third team, Webby made
Speaker 6: first team, so I don't know. Plus he won an award,
Speaker 6: so I think that he actually could have qualified for
Speaker 6: more than.
Speaker 1: Three hundred million. Yeah, for sure, he could have got
Speaker 1: the super duper max right like Giannis And then look,
Speaker 1: I gotta refresh how that works.
Speaker 4: Honestly, how much is Caid making because Caid made those
Speaker 4: same just not the award, but ca had they signed
Speaker 4: before he got the All Pro Like I know, but
Speaker 4: even though you signed before, if you if you achieved
Speaker 4: that during that contract, you get those numbers, your your
Speaker 4: your your contract then goes up to those numbers.
Speaker 1: Wemby could have made over three hundred and three million, okay,
Speaker 1: because he won Defensive Player of the Year and his
Speaker 1: first team All NBA, So he could have got over
Speaker 1: three hundred million.
Speaker 12: So he took fifty million dollars discovers.
Speaker 1: That's a that's a significant discuss.
Speaker 4: That is a significant He's getting paid less than kid wow.
Speaker 1: So even though he made two hundred and fifty million dollars,
Speaker 1: it's still a pretty significant discount. It's paid money, please
Speaker 1: money please.
Speaker 4: Kate is a five year like I said, with the
Speaker 4: with the ability because he did it reached the All
Speaker 4: NBA first team level, it goes up to two hundred
Speaker 4: and sixty nine million dollars rookie extension. Okay, so that's
Speaker 4: what Kaye's contract is. And wow, Victor Willy Damas is
Speaker 4: two hundred and fifty two million good for five years now.
Speaker 4: It does include the player option in the fifth year.
Speaker 4: You know he's gonna opt out and then go play
Speaker 4: with Kike Cunning and Detroit.
Speaker 2: Despite some people comparing the two and their playoff Jeff struggles,
Speaker 2: no one has a problem victim make a fifty million dollars.
Speaker 2: No one's blinking and eye questioning. He didn't have to
Speaker 2: go and test the fucking market. And in fact, he
Speaker 2: took seventy You should have made like sixty five a year.
Speaker 6: And that's not all the money. The San Antonio's first
Speaker 6: saved this week we're in. Here is the side by.
Speaker 6: Oh well, here's the backstory. First, Oh, what the fuck?
Speaker 6: The Spurs broadcaster. The Spurs broadcaster got fired from his
Speaker 6: job when his girlfriend posted this. This wasn't him, Spencer.
Speaker 6: You want to do the honor?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it says this is my girlfriend of six years,
Speaker 1: but I cheated on her with Lauren Waters at Lauren Waters.
Speaker 1: So feel free to continue following me if you really
Speaker 1: think I'm a good guy, because I'm not.
Speaker 6: And now here's the side by side. Okay, wow, the
Speaker 6: left is his girlfriend. Way what a mistake? What what
Speaker 6: a mistake? He had to be in love?
Speaker 1: That's crazy? No, way crazy confirmed because she's his girlfriend.
Speaker 1: By the way, this is Lindy Water's sister. That's got
Speaker 1: to be Lendy Water's older sister.
Speaker 12: He's like in Hollywood. She's like a filmmaker or.
Speaker 1: Something for an event. The girlfriends still roll. Did you
Speaker 1: did you guys try to be a start because his
Speaker 1: girlfriend's way hotter. I'm pretty sure he got fired. Yeah
Speaker 1: he did. That's crazy, and you get fired for getting pussy.
Speaker 1: Just you just can't. You just can't fucking that's that's
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Speaker 7: went through multiple frameworks, a major decision for the All
Speaker 7: NBA Star and Defensive Player of the Year. So yeah,
Speaker 7: three hundred three million is what he could have made,
Speaker 7: but he settled for two fifty settled for two hundred
Speaker 7: and fifty million dollars, just.
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Speaker 3: Men cheat down.
Speaker 1: Oh, don't say that. Don't cheat. Guys don't cheat. She said,
Speaker 1: Lebron did it. Lebron didn't shet down. His girl was fine.
Speaker 1: His wife is gorgeous, though. Ye shout out to Savannah,
Speaker 1: but I mean, let's not kidd our Celsie. Let's all
Speaker 1: The adult mail bag from Will I Am says, uh,
Speaker 1: Canabuka Corey truly be a number two? What I saw
Speaker 1: from his performance, it feels right. Do you agree? I
Speaker 1: think eventually not next year, but in a couple of
Speaker 1: years there's a good shot he could be the second
Speaker 1: best scoring option on a championship contender. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: You gave me PTSD if about Holland, but I didn't
Speaker 1: say scoring option. Yeah fair because it was never gonna
Speaker 1: be that. It was gonna be all around with Ron Howard.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if he could be the second
Speaker 1: best player on a championship team. That would be like
Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving upside, which I mean, I guess his ceilingist
Speaker 1: of ceilings is Kyrie Irving. But I would say I
Speaker 1: would comfort I would be comfortable hopefully with him being
Speaker 1: the second best scoring option on a championship contender in
Speaker 1: a in a couple of years.
Speaker 6: I've I fullheartedly backed that. I believe that is a
Speaker 6: that is a realistic possibility.
Speaker 1: That is that is ceiling though that cling. Like I said,
Speaker 1: I think a realistic ceiling for him is Lou Williams
Speaker 1: is a guy that will come off the bench, He'll
Speaker 1: light you up for twenty and that is an important
Speaker 1: piece to a team for sure. But if he could
Speaker 1: become Kyrie Holy I.
Speaker 2: Don't really have comps for him. I just know he's
Speaker 2: gonna be a solid scoring piece for the Detroit Pistons.
Speaker 6: Not solid good good look, I mean the way this
Speaker 6: Pisson team operates, and I think Kate individually operates, I
Speaker 6: think he look Obviously, I'm never gonna say no to
Speaker 6: a twenty point per game score. But I think Kate
Speaker 6: likes to have a lot of people involved, and he
Speaker 6: you know, I feel like the championship version of Kate
Speaker 6: Kyneham will feature multiple people scoring double digits. I mean
Speaker 6: that's how the Piss has won most of their games.
Speaker 6: Is remember they'd have five, six, even seven guys get
Speaker 6: double figures in a game. That's the type of way
Speaker 6: that Kate Kyneham likes to play. So and you don't
Speaker 6: need like a thirty point per game score.
Speaker 1: Jeff and Denver Blair in the chat, I know your
Speaker 1: sentiment and I know what you're saying, he says, right,
Speaker 1: just like twenty two, give during time, it's a Buka
Speaker 1: is nineteen. Give him time. I'm running out of time.
Speaker 1: You're not running out of time. Kate Cunningham is younger
Speaker 1: than Yaxel Londonborg. Like it's it's not like Cade's twenty eight.
Speaker 1: Like you, you're not running out of time. We're not.
Speaker 1: We have a lot of time, although we wanted to,
Speaker 1: you know, come on, but it's not like it's not
Speaker 1: like if it doesn't happen in two years, it's never
Speaker 1: gonna happen. With Kate Cunningham and Sar Thompson, they're very
Speaker 1: young players.
Speaker 4: Bobby Marks came out and put a post on Twitter
Speaker 4: about the Victor contract.
Speaker 1: Talking to the Mic young Blood shout out Bobby Mark.
Speaker 4: So the difference in year one person he got the
Speaker 4: twenty five percent max instead of the thirty percent max.
Speaker 4: So in year one he'll be making forty three point
Speaker 4: five million instead of the fifty two point two million.
Speaker 4: So he's making forty forty five forty three and a
Speaker 4: half instead of fifty two point two.
Speaker 1: So during negotiation, Yeah, to Dylan Duran, you have absolutely okay,
Speaker 1: it's ebers now eighteen million, Jalen Durran. No literally seriously,
Speaker 1: like Jalen Durran officially has no legs to stand on.
Speaker 1: In this offer sheet, you have Victor Webbin Yama, arguably
Speaker 1: the best player in the NBA, making forty three million
Speaker 1: dollars a year. Thirty five sounds pretty good for Jalen Duran.
Speaker 1: And I know that it's different scenarios and Wemby's got
Speaker 1: his off court stuff where he makes a lot of
Speaker 1: money so he can afford to do this. But this
Speaker 1: is the fact with the NBA, if you want to
Speaker 1: win a championship, you're going to have to do things
Speaker 1: like this. Look at Jalen Brunson. He took the pay
Speaker 1: cut Knicks win a championship with Victor Wembanyama, first Team
Speaker 1: All NBA Defensive Player of the Year eligible for three
Speaker 1: hundred and three million dollars. Takes a fifty million dollars
Speaker 1: a year pay cut to win a championship. If you
Speaker 1: are Jalen Duran and you're sitting across the table from
Speaker 1: Trajan Langdon realistically saying I deserve more money per year
Speaker 1: than Victor Wembanyama, You're not winning that argument, and thirty
Speaker 1: plus other gms agree. So right now, you don't got
Speaker 1: a leg to stand on. Brother.
Speaker 4: I tell you what for, Jalen Duran. You want to
Speaker 4: you want you want to extra five million?
Speaker 1: Here, here's what we'll do.
Speaker 4: Cage Cunningham's coming out with his own signare issue will
Speaker 4: make you a Cage Signature athlete and you can just.
Speaker 1: Have CA do you find me, We'll play. It's a
Speaker 1: damn tree Jalen.
Speaker 4: Dur that by the way, he made you know some
Speaker 4: of his teammates and no guys around the league Steph
Speaker 4: Curry athletes.
Speaker 1: But seriously, seriously, like this is now it's done right,
Speaker 1: it has to be done.
Speaker 6: It had like its signed. A contracion has to be
Speaker 6: made within the coming days. Here, like contracts, there's just
Speaker 6: nothing left to prove. Like the Pistons made their moves,
Speaker 6: so there's no arguing over cap space or any of that.
Speaker 1: You know the exact number that the Pistons have to
Speaker 1: operate with. And so now it's and it's not the
Speaker 1: big bad Pistons that it's painting painted out to be.
Speaker 1: Trajan Langdon told Jalen Duran, if you can get more
Speaker 1: money from anybody on planet Earth, we will match it.
Speaker 1: He couldn't. And now Wemby's making forty three million dollars
Speaker 1: a year, thirty five sounds like an overpay it that.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what I guarantee you. The San Antonio's first.
Speaker 4: We're not letting Victor Wembiamo. I mean even Sniff RFA
Speaker 4: no like he not even Sniff.
Speaker 1: And the Pistons wouldn't have either. That's the thing the
Speaker 1: Pistons were gonna match. If the basketball world thought Jalen
Speaker 1: Duran was worth that much money, he would be getting
Speaker 1: that much money right now. But he's not. All right,
Speaker 1: that'll do it for us today. I appreciate you tapping in.
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