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Speaker 2: Baby Bam, do it. But who are we.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm Chrissy lenz One of the directors at the
Speaker 1: Neighborhood Comedy Theater in downtown Mace, Arizona.
Speaker 2: That is awesome because I am Nate McCord, a performer
Speaker 2: and teacher at the Neighborhood Comedy Theater in downtown Mesa, Arizona. Chrissy,
Speaker 2: it's so nice to be here with you.
Speaker 1: It is so nice to be back on the chuck wagon.
Speaker 2: On that we are back on the chuck wagon. Before
Speaker 2: we get onto the chuck wagon, I just I posit
Speaker 2: this question to you. I thought about saving it for
Speaker 2: bonus content, okay, but I'm going to posit this question
Speaker 2: to you. Would Dean, specifically Dean be in favor of
Speaker 2: drinking a beer out of a skinny can?
Speaker 1: Oh? No, Dean wouldn't drink a beer out of if
Speaker 1: that's the only beer that there is. Dean will drink
Speaker 1: beer out of a skinny can, but he won't like it.
Speaker 2: I only say this because I cracked open a dose
Speaker 2: Eki's here and they're neither cans are now skinny cans
Speaker 2: as most of the you know, people are going to
Speaker 2: that technically is actually anyway for many reasons, But there's
Speaker 2: still this like in my brain, this disconnect drinking a
Speaker 2: beer out of a skinny can. Even though they're not
Speaker 2: the first ones to do it, Corona has done it
Speaker 2: for a long time. Madela or Ultra ye Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: Michael Vultra is a skinny I mean I don't drink
Speaker 2: Michela Bultru. I. So like, there's this like just disconnecting
Speaker 2: my brain because normally when I drink a skinny can,
Speaker 2: I'm expecting it to be like a Seltzer or yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm drinking white claw right now out of a sin game.
Speaker 2: Yes, And so as I took my first sip of
Speaker 2: this dosecis its just my brain like kind of broke
Speaker 2: for half a second and I was like, I was like,
Speaker 2: that's not the taste that should come out of this
Speaker 2: shaped vessel. Then it needs to be shorter and fatter, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Like a real like a man's can.
Speaker 2: I'm not I am not gendering they can't. I then
Speaker 2: just pot I just then wonder would Dean I like
Speaker 2: would love to see a scene of Dean drinking either
Speaker 2: like a white claw or a beer out of a
Speaker 2: white claw shaped cam where he then like looks at it.
Speaker 1: Like and would complain, Yeah, he would not do it.
Speaker 2: Right Anyway, that's a weird place to get off on,
Speaker 2: but it is. It is a drinking game show.
Speaker 1: It is, and we we do the drinking, we talk
Speaker 1: about the drinking.
Speaker 2: Or the drinking. Let's launch into tonight's episode. Then, while
Speaker 2: on that note, we are talking, like you said, like
Speaker 2: you brought up the Chuck wagon, we are still just
Speaker 2: rolling along talking Chuck episodes. And this this one, boy,
Speaker 2: it is a I mean it is. It is the
Speaker 2: Chuck episode. Basically, it is his showdown with Amara. We
Speaker 2: are talking season eleven, episode twenty two, the two hundred
Speaker 2: and fortieth episode of Supernatural, the one hundredth episode to
Speaker 2: feature demons of Supernatural on Supernatural. Okay, aired, Yeah, I know,
Speaker 2: it's look, we're we're crossing all sorts of milestones here.
Speaker 2: It aired May eighteenth, twenty sixteen, a time much happier
Speaker 2: than our own, but not much happier, just a little happier.
Speaker 2: Written by Robert Barns and directed by John Badam. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that is what we're talking tonight. It's a good one.
Speaker 2: It's a great episode, and we have some drinking game
Speaker 2: rules they.
Speaker 1: Are thusly Okay, lay it on me.
Speaker 2: Lucifer acting like a petulant juvenile or a petulantly or
Speaker 2: juvenile just being a big old kid. Take a drink.
Speaker 2: Anytime we see some pie charts, I can't I can't
Speaker 2: wait to just get into those. Anytime anytime we're talking
Speaker 2: about the end of the world. At the end of
Speaker 2: the world is mentioned or discussed, that one is obviously
Speaker 2: intended to be a heavy hitter because the whole dang
Speaker 2: episode's kind of about it. But you know, at true discretion,
Speaker 2: take a drink for some therapy talk.
Speaker 1: Therapy talk, we're.
Speaker 2: Drinking every time we yeah talking about that. I was
Speaker 2: literally singing the Supernatural, your Supernatural theme song right before
Speaker 2: we came. We need to just record that and make
Speaker 2: that our intro. I think, yeah, I still remember most
Speaker 2: of the words. Kind of a heart so long ago.
Speaker 2: It's probably like close to ten years ago we did that.
Speaker 2: It really is. I shudder saying that Oceans eleven sequence.
Speaker 2: Anytime we get on Oceans eleven sequence, which I hope
Speaker 2: was pretty obvious, it was okay cool because I loved it.
Speaker 2: Anytime Rowena insults Sam m hm our big, finish your
Speaker 2: drink or take a shot is for the mug kick. Okay,
Speaker 2: take a drink for a witch attack. Although I if
Speaker 2: you're just now, if you didn't listen to the you
Speaker 2: know ahead the time, and you didn't know the rules,
Speaker 2: and you're gonna pause and then watch the show, go
Speaker 2: ahead and add on a drink for an angel attack,
Speaker 2: a demon attack, and a Lucifer attack. Just why not, Okay,
Speaker 2: in there, add it on, add it all in there,
Speaker 2: attack them on if you want. I realized I probably
Speaker 2: should have done that as I was watching. Again, Uh,
Speaker 2: take a drink for some some Jedi amara anytime we
Speaker 2: get some good Jedi amara going on, And then we're
Speaker 2: taking drinks for BM scenes.
Speaker 1: Which I forgot about. So I think that my account's
Speaker 1: going to be way off of on that one, because
Speaker 1: for some reason, I just like that one was at
Speaker 1: the bottom of my list. I just kept forgetting to
Speaker 1: watch for it.
Speaker 2: There aren't too many. I thought there were gonna I
Speaker 2: thought there were going to be a lot more, and
Speaker 2: and I and so, yeah, we'll talk about it at
Speaker 2: the end. Uh, yeah, them's the rules. And then I
Speaker 2: want to talk at the end about a rule I
Speaker 2: think I should have put in that I normally do,
Speaker 2: but I really should have for this one. For some reason, didn't,
Speaker 2: So are you ready to get into it?
Speaker 1: Chrisy oh, I'm ready, teddy good because.
Speaker 2: The episode literally just gets into it. There's no then
Speaker 2: we're picking up from the instant the previous episode All
Speaker 2: in the Family left off, which is a Lucifer and
Speaker 2: God seeing and meeting for the first time. And this
Speaker 2: is obviously where we get some good Lucifer being.
Speaker 1: So petulant, so petulant.
Speaker 2: Lucifer petulance is an interesting phrase that sounds like a
Speaker 2: like a heavy metal album. Lucifer petulance sounds like a
Speaker 2: Godsmack album. All right, uh.
Speaker 1: Sosha Misha is so good, like we've already said, he's
Speaker 1: so good at doing his like impression of Mark Belgreno
Speaker 1: as Lucifer, but when he is being especially petulant, it's
Speaker 1: even better. It's like, how is he not nominated for
Speaker 1: an Emmy for this?
Speaker 2: Because correct because it's on the CW Like, it's the
Speaker 2: the way his eyes like he's like everything just a
Speaker 2: tone when he's being like super sarcastic, like, it's so
Speaker 2: he's so good. It's his range as cast is incredible,
Speaker 2: and it is always fun when they do give him
Speaker 2: a break from the Growley voice. Yeah, makes the most
Speaker 2: of it. He makes the most of every time they
Speaker 2: release him from the growley cast voice that he accidentally
Speaker 2: stuck himself with. Yeah, So I good moment here. Where
Speaker 2: were you? Well, it's a long story. Chuck being Chucks
Speaker 2: as usual. Uh and and basically like I can't give
Speaker 2: you what you want. We have a stare down and yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a it's a fun little you're not gonna say it.
Speaker 2: Screw you, screw all of you. And that's where we
Speaker 2: get like a little bit of cast. Like I feel
Speaker 2: like cast came through in that moment too, you know,
Speaker 2: like he got a little growley. And then it's a
Speaker 2: supernatural what cut too loud rock music being played from
Speaker 2: a bedroom. Lucifer, come out of there. You gotta come
Speaker 2: talk to you God, your dad please. No, I'm not
Speaker 2: coming out of my room until and Sammy's like, it's
Speaker 2: my room.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that my room.
Speaker 2: I'm not coming out to this. He's ready to, you know,
Speaker 2: like again some more Lucifer petulant juvenile behavior. Uh yeah,
Speaker 2: so oh yeah, and then we get so I should
Speaker 2: have made pop culture reference of a dang rule, because boy, there's.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a rule on the next episode.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, and I'm like, we do it all the time,
Speaker 2: so I felt like I needed a break, but this
Speaker 2: episode deserved it. This is the worst house full episode
Speaker 2: of full House, Dean says, as Lucifer is locking himself
Speaker 2: in the room, we cut to Crowley, who is I
Speaker 2: was saying the unfortunate line that he wants to make
Speaker 2: Hell great again, which eleven years later or nine years
Speaker 2: however many years later we are now nine years later feels.
Speaker 1: He feels like a billion years.
Speaker 2: Feels so, so anyway, boy, Hell is great. He's trying
Speaker 2: to get the demons to like, you know, overthrow Lucifer
Speaker 2: because he's been cast out and made to lick floors,
Speaker 2: and the demons all just like chuckle at him, and
Speaker 2: they're like, nah, we're not we we're not doing this.
Speaker 2: We're not on board. You're doing the same thing. So
Speaker 2: this is where we see charts. I love the arts
Speaker 2: screwn about the table. What do you think is on
Speaker 2: those pie charts?
Speaker 1: I think it's Crowley's idea of customer satisfaction because you know,
Speaker 1: we learned this in the episode season seven, Time for
Speaker 1: a Wedding that he's all about customer satisfaction and integrity
Speaker 1: in the industry. So I think he's all about improving
Speaker 1: his stats.
Speaker 2: And those stats being like souls claimed, and like I
Speaker 2: want to Okay, I just want to know who printed
Speaker 2: those out, who compiled the reports, what word document exists on,
Speaker 2: what computer? Like Hell has a printer.
Speaker 1: Oh, Hell is full of printers, and they don't work,
Speaker 1: and they don't and they're always low on toner, so
Speaker 1: they print really badly, whereas.
Speaker 2: In Heaven and Heaven the printers are always low on
Speaker 2: toner but never run out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a miracle. I like to think that Crowley
Speaker 1: made those pie charts because he was so excited for
Speaker 1: his little presentation.
Speaker 2: Yes, that's what I'm imagining. I'm imagining him on a
Speaker 2: computer like typing away doing spreadsheets and like putting him
Speaker 2: into tables and then going to a Kinkos. Cause again,
Speaker 2: there's no way Hell has a printer.
Speaker 1: But Hell has a Kinkos.
Speaker 2: Hell probably, oh yeah, it definitely has a Kinkos. Going
Speaker 2: to the Kinkos getting it printed out. That's just such
Speaker 2: a dated reference. Do those even exist any Do they
Speaker 2: even have I'm sure they still.
Speaker 1: Do.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Whatever, Yeah, so ups Store I've been watching Better
Speaker 2: Call Saul, and that's a that's a prominent place in
Speaker 2: that show. So I I, yeah, I love this just
Speaker 2: scene where they the Demon's laugh at Crowley. I think
Speaker 2: it's so funny, like and then he's like, well, why
Speaker 2: do you even come? Like we just wanted to see
Speaker 2: the monkey dance? Like you're hilarious, you're a favorite, Like
Speaker 2: do you have a plan to be tomorrow?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: Okay, bye here? So uh we cut to Chuck making
Speaker 2: some pancakes for the boys. I love mister mom Chuck.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, but like, one thing I noticed in this
Speaker 1: episode is that Rob Benedict standing next to everyone is
Speaker 1: so short.
Speaker 2: He's teeny tiny, especially compared to the giants that are
Speaker 2: the boys. But yes, he is. He's a short fella,
Speaker 2: which is why I think he's always like, I mean,
Speaker 2: he stands on top of the platform or whatever at
Speaker 2: the end of the episode. But also then there's this
Speaker 2: this we'll get to the scene where he's talking to
Speaker 2: Sam and Dean when they're on the terrace or whatever
Speaker 2: the landing of the stairs, and it's and it's so okay,
Speaker 2: we'll get into that in a minute. Okay, So Chuck's
Speaker 2: making pancakes, and we're talking about what to do about Amara.
Speaker 2: The end is freaking nigh, which is a great line
Speaker 2: from Dean because he's like, we don't have time to
Speaker 2: wait for Lucifer whoever else, because Lucifer is just not coming.
Speaker 2: He's not coming out. So eventually we do get them
Speaker 2: to sit down, but not before we cut to Rowena,
Speaker 2: who is astrally projecting into a shock and what we
Speaker 2: assume is the Bayou somewhere in Louisiana, New Orleans, and
Speaker 2: there's Clia and she's like Rowen eventually walks in, not astrally,
Speaker 2: and they have this conversation of well, the world is ending.
Speaker 2: I've seen the darkness. I've seen inside her. I see
Speaker 2: there's nothing we got to get out of here. Let's
Speaker 2: go back in time. I've got the Book of the Damned.
Speaker 2: Let's go back in time. Let's buy ourselves a couple
Speaker 2: more centuries of life. What do you think in middlely
Speaker 2: medieval times? I know, not the great time to be
Speaker 2: a witch or a black woman. But Claio wants to
Speaker 2: go to the Greek antiquities and I love her, and
Speaker 2: Romena's like, oh, like, that's a much better time to
Speaker 2: be a black woman, and I'm like, actually, probably is, yeah,
Speaker 2: probably definitely more, definitely way more than the medieval times.
Speaker 2: Uh uh, So I love I just love this little plan.
Speaker 2: I love this little conversation, this little plan. I liked
Speaker 2: that Rowena looked for hex bags but not like a gun, right.
Speaker 2: I like Rowena being like, you're a rat that'll get
Speaker 2: off any ship. And also it's our first of the
Speaker 2: podcast appearance of Rowena. Rowena, she is beautiful and awesome.
Speaker 1: It all the real life partner and mother of the
Speaker 1: child of Rob Benedict Boom.
Speaker 2: Which makes parts of us apisode kind of funny and weird.
Speaker 2: I don't know. This is a really ancestual show, isn't it. Yes,
Speaker 2: it's aid or really nepotism a show going on. So
Speaker 2: many people in the show are like the date other
Speaker 2: people who were on it, or end up being with
Speaker 2: other people who were on it. Uh, we don't need
Speaker 2: to focus on that. Let's get back to the fun stuff.
Speaker 2: So Chuck and Lucifer, they're sitting there, finally able to
Speaker 2: sit down and have a talk. So that is where
Speaker 2: we get our therapy, doc. Why don't you use I
Speaker 2: feel statements? Which I love? I love. Deed's the one
Speaker 2: leading these guys through therapy. It's so funny. So they
Speaker 2: sit in there have their talk and it's you know,
Speaker 2: it's good, it's it's I was your son. You forsook me.
Speaker 2: I had to you you disliked my cue. And he's like,
Speaker 2: but you made me just like them, You gave me
Speaker 2: the mark. You're the reason it changed me. He's like, no,
Speaker 2: you always. He just amplified what was already there was
Speaker 2: your your stay in and dislike for the humans, and
Speaker 2: so I had to let my creations breathe. So I
Speaker 2: to lock you away, which is like, okay if it
Speaker 2: kind of total bs on Chuck's part because like we're
Speaker 2: still sposed lad to believe that like temptation is the
Speaker 2: devil playing right with us and stuff right, So like
Speaker 2: ultimately he didn't, but I guess Chuck's argument will probably
Speaker 2: be like, that's not the temptation, that's not the devil,
Speaker 2: that's just the free will. I gave you. What you
Speaker 2: do with it is yours. There's so many cool, interesting
Speaker 2: philosophical questions of this show will bring up and just
Speaker 2: never touch on or like actually like delve into. I
Speaker 2: think this is one of.
Speaker 1: Them like they just toss them out there, right, They.
Speaker 2: Toss it out there for people on podcasts ten years
Speaker 2: later to discuss. So, uh yeah, it's but it's a
Speaker 2: good BM scene. This is their first BM scene between
Speaker 2: Lucifer and Chuck uh and and ultimately so then I
Speaker 2: love that The boys was like Sam says, I have
Speaker 2: to side with Lucifer. All he's asking for is an
Speaker 2: apology and you're not willing to give to him just
Speaker 2: because you want to be right. And Dean's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I apologize to Sam all the time, but I don't really.
Speaker 1: Mean it, and yeah.
Speaker 2: Hey sorry see and Chuck says enough from the peanut
Speaker 2: gallery and he sends them up to the landing where
Speaker 2: they can still hears presumably the whole conversation going on,
Speaker 2: but now start part of it. And I guess they
Speaker 2: never try to walk down the stairs to go better.
Speaker 1: Well, they've been shoot by God, They're gonna be.
Speaker 2: Shooed by God. I guess Dean feels like I feel
Speaker 2: like Dean would really be like, no, no, no, this
Speaker 2: is my house. I live here, I could be where
Speaker 2: I want. Oh yeah, I love the line. Do you
Speaker 2: do you know what it's like to argue with your
Speaker 2: father when your father is God, and like, it's so
Speaker 2: funny because they don't the universal like answer that's hanging
Speaker 2: in the air for literally everyone in that room, everyone
Speaker 2: watching and everything is just like yes, yes, because that's
Speaker 2: like all fathers. M It was such a good moment.
Speaker 2: I was just of like of the boys, like you
Speaker 2: could see them just thinking about John right and like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's this episode has so many great lines for being
Speaker 2: such a like narrative plot, myth like story arc episode.
Speaker 2: There are a lot of great lines written in the way.
Speaker 1: That's a clever episode.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it really is. I like it a lot more
Speaker 2: than our pre than the previous All in the Family,
Speaker 2: I will say so. Chuck eventually does apologize.
Speaker 1: Yes, whether he means it or not, we don't know.
Speaker 1: But once he gets that first apology out, then he's
Speaker 1: all apologies exactly where sorry, sorry you serving this serving
Speaker 1: that it's like unlocked the the apology mode and just
Speaker 1: sticks with it.
Speaker 2: He's like, Wow, that felt great to be ask people
Speaker 2: to their faces. I'm going to keep doing it better
Speaker 2: than BS and I'm gonna being not being there. So
Speaker 2: now now that Lucy Lucy, I've written Lucy has written
Speaker 2: in all my notes, so I actually call Lucifer. Lucy.
Speaker 2: We all know who I mean. Lucifer is on board,
Speaker 2: and now what do we do? All right, it's time
Speaker 2: for a plan, and Chuck has got it. And how
Speaker 2: does he got it? He's got it like it's an
Speaker 2: ocean's eleven. Round him up sequence. That's right.
Speaker 1: Uh, we don't have our angels, so we need to
Speaker 1: fill our places.
Speaker 2: Yes, and he says the line where we're still a
Speaker 2: few members short of the starting lineup we had back
Speaker 2: the last time we locked him our up. Uh. And
Speaker 2: it's like, okay, well who do we who do we
Speaker 2: need to get? Or is it we should get some
Speaker 2: hands of God? That's a little redundant, Chuck.
Speaker 1: Says, and he wiggles his hands.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny the Chuck with his hands at any time. Actually,
Speaker 2: that could have been a good rule too, because he
Speaker 2: like does hand things several times, hand things.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 2: Anyway, So so we get the we get the fun
Speaker 2: sequence of going and rounding up the team.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: So first put, that's right, we're putting the band together.
Speaker 2: We're moving right along straight up, like traveling by a
Speaker 2: map like the Muppets, but not traveling by map, just
Speaker 2: traveling by God power, which is how Dean shows up
Speaker 2: in Hell to try to sway Crowley, who, by the way,
Speaker 2: drink for pie charts. As we see on the table,
Speaker 2: it's still wallowing in his pie charts that no one
Speaker 2: wanted to read. Uh, Dean says, sober up, I got
Speaker 2: a I'm on a mission from guy. He doesn't say this,
Speaker 2: but he basically says, I'm on a mission from God
Speaker 2: God Crowley. I don't think it's in this one, but
Speaker 2: it's in the next one. He has this great line
Speaker 2: where he's like, He's like, I it could have been
Speaker 2: Game of Thrones, like go out on top. And I'm like, wait,
Speaker 2: do we know how Game of Thrones ended in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2: I don't think we did yet.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't I don't work. I don't think Game of
Speaker 2: Thrones had ended yet. And I'm like, that's not how
Speaker 2: Game of Thrones ends at all. Way on the bottom, Yeah,
Speaker 2: they don't go out on top, that's for sure. One
Speaker 2: person does, but he's chill anyway. Uh So, Yeah, Dean
Speaker 2: is the one trying to convince Crowley because they're bros.
Speaker 2: And Lucifer is the one tasked with.
Speaker 1: Trying to he says. He says, uh, I see you
Speaker 1: trying for a romantic rekindling. And I just love that line,
Speaker 1: romantic rekindling.
Speaker 2: That's another good album title, romantic rekindling. So the Yeah,
Speaker 2: so the Lucifer is up trying to convince the angels,
Speaker 2: which just feels like the worst plan to do. I
Speaker 2: don't know who else you would have said, like bring
Speaker 2: Bobby back to life and send him up. I don't know,
Speaker 2: like that just seemed like it should it should not
Speaker 2: have worked well.
Speaker 1: And he transforms back into Castiel, and so Misha gets
Speaker 1: to do that that beautiful piece of acting where he's
Speaker 1: he's being Lucifer and then he transforms into casts and
Speaker 1: then he goes back to being Lucifer and it's it's
Speaker 1: so good. I just love Misha Collins.
Speaker 2: It is quite good. And but the angels are like, well,
Speaker 2: we don't we don't like you, E like, get out here.
Speaker 2: We don't like either you and you let him inside you? No, no,
Speaker 2: we're not doing the your Craig cray uh. And who's
Speaker 2: in charge of wooing the witches? That would be Sammy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Clia and Rowena are assembling the pieces. They need to
Speaker 2: go back in time with the spell from the Book
Speaker 2: of the Damned. They need a pig jaw. Sammy appears
Speaker 2: and says, check, oh were you doing here? Always cover
Speaker 2: the aura around him. Clea says is something like I've
Speaker 2: never seen and same. He's like, yeah, no, I'm with
Speaker 2: God and we're going to try to fight the darkness.
Speaker 2: And Rowena's like, no, that sounds stupid, dumb. And you're
Speaker 2: a big moose, big and tall. Her insults are big
Speaker 2: and tall, big moose. And what was the other My
Speaker 2: writ down? Shoot when he first shows up. One, you're
Speaker 2: a giant. What do you want? Giant? Yeah, so funny.
Speaker 2: I just love I love when she and either either
Speaker 2: her or Crowley dig into sam. I think it's so funny. Yeah,
Speaker 2: uh yeah, we kind of go around the We go
Speaker 2: around the rounder. We do a herald in the middle
Speaker 2: of this episode.
Speaker 1: And yeah, which is an improv term. For those of
Speaker 1: you who don't know, it's an improv form made popular
Speaker 1: by UCB.
Speaker 2: I forgot. We have to explain that. I just thought
Speaker 2: everyone what a harald is? I give our audience credit. Grizzy,
Speaker 2: I believe more of it, probably know what a herald
Speaker 2: is than we want then we I think a good
Speaker 2: chunk new uh yeah, so eventually everyone gets convinced. Okay,
Speaker 2: I do have this question though, vessels in heaven mm hmmm.
Speaker 2: Why other than obviously because they're actors and we can
Speaker 2: hire them and people, and it's easier to film than
Speaker 2: like light beams talking. But isn't that what it should
Speaker 2: be in heaven? Is just like beams of light, which
Speaker 2: are the angels?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: Then talking? Isn't that what we should see when they're
Speaker 2: without any humans around?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: I get it if the boys are around, like when
Speaker 2: we were dealing with Zeke and all that, Like, I
Speaker 2: get that. It's when it's just angels.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess that's a good point. I never thought
Speaker 1: of it like that.
Speaker 2: It just occurred to me this time. I don't know why.
Speaker 2: I was like, they shouldn't really be people, right, like
Speaker 2: have their vessels right now? They should be they're in heaven.
Speaker 2: They should just be.
Speaker 1: Suits and stuff. So I think it's like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's what they turn the angels into is very
Speaker 2: interesting in this show. They're just like all very uptight,
Speaker 2: stiff like rule of followers. Yet they're always constantly like
Speaker 2: rebelling against each other and stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're like business people, right.
Speaker 2: The opposite of the except they don't have pie charts.
Speaker 2: Where are they're freaking pie charts? The Demon's got pie charts.
Speaker 1: There's no Castiella didn't make any.
Speaker 2: For souls saved, there's no competing, there's no what's the
Speaker 2: market share of souls right now? Who knows? Yeah, and
Speaker 2: probably knows. But the angels have no clue. They're out
Speaker 2: here just farting in the wind. Oh so I don't know.
Speaker 2: We go round and round a couple of times. So
Speaker 2: I counted too, within this one sequence, two different oceans,
Speaker 2: eleven sequences, because we kind of like cut back to
Speaker 2: the bunker in between. So I'm like, all right, that's
Speaker 2: kind of two different ones. Also trying to get drinks out.
Speaker 1: Of it, yep, trying to squeeze those drinks. Trying to
Speaker 1: get those drinks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, trying to get those drinks. So we reveal
Speaker 2: that Dean cannot kill Amara because he's all crushing on
Speaker 2: her and he wants to kill her, but he wants
Speaker 2: Chuck to kill her. He can't, and then this weird moment,
Speaker 2: it's likely this great moment again where you get a
Speaker 2: great me.
Speaker 1: He doesn't want her to go back in the box.
Speaker 2: Right, I just want to go back in the box,
Speaker 2: because he doesn't want to be tempted by her ever again.
Speaker 2: So he wants her to be dead, but he also can't.
Speaker 2: He can't kill her because he wants her. It's really
Speaker 2: messed up, and that's kind of what Lucifer says. And
Speaker 2: it's also a fairy funny moment with Lucifer basically like
Speaker 2: outs Dean to Chuck for like his infatuation with Lamara. Yeah,
Speaker 2: even though Chuck is assumingly knows this, but yeah, so
Speaker 2: this moment of like I tried to kill her but
Speaker 2: I couldn't and Chuck's like, well maybe because you didn't
Speaker 2: want to. It's like that couldn't be it. That couldn't
Speaker 2: be it. So uh yeah, we get the and then
Speaker 2: we get the round up Ocean's eleven sequence where they
Speaker 2: all kind of agree, Okay, fine, we'll do it. Clea
Speaker 2: says like, no, this is a chance to fight. Crowley
Speaker 2: kind of realizes that this is yeah, better than just dying,
Speaker 2: I guess, better than nothing, and that there's no way
Speaker 2: Deans like, did you really you expect the demons to
Speaker 2: go for that stroke your ego. But da da dada
Speaker 2: and the angels I guess we I guess that by
Speaker 2: default the angels agreed, we don't really get that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we don't ever get that because there are beams of
Speaker 2: that's anyway. Cut to Amara visits Donatello, sucks the location
Speaker 2: of where God is out of him and finds that
Speaker 2: he's in the bunker. Vans Yeah, Kansas, and she goes
Speaker 2: to the bunker. She kicks a mug, the world's greatest
Speaker 2: dad mug that out of According to the Wikipedia, they
Speaker 2: had a target for her to hit to like aim
Speaker 2: at when she kicked the mug, and she she nailed
Speaker 2: it on the first try. So just a fun fact that, Yeah,
Speaker 2: she's that awesome and just so good in this episode. Two. Uh,
Speaker 2: the gang is all here. We get we get fun
Speaker 2: Meet him up moments between a couple of our characters,
Speaker 2: Lucifer and Rowena.
Speaker 1: Hello Fergus, Hello Fergus.
Speaker 2: Yes the you think you're the first man who tried
Speaker 2: to kill me? Line? Uh is good. Yeah, it's it's fun.
Speaker 2: Little reunions. I call them meet him ups, Meet him up.
Speaker 2: I'm going to a family, Meet him up.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I can't hang out. I gotta go to a
Speaker 1: family meet him up.
Speaker 2: Chuck then appears in a flash of light, Hello my children,
Speaker 2: ugh eye roll boom, lays out the plan and oh yeah,
Speaker 2: that was that was our final roundtable of Ocean's eleven.
Speaker 2: Was them presumably we hear the plan, but we don't.
Speaker 2: We don't know the plan, and all of them going like,
Speaker 2: huh really that's it. That's that's yeah. So Chuck's going
Speaker 2: over the plan, lays it out all right. First it's
Speaker 2: gonna be the Witches. Then it's gonna be the Angels,
Speaker 2: then it's gonna be the Demons, then Lucifer, you and her,
Speaker 2: and then we'll see if we can close this thing out.
Speaker 2: That's that's the plan. We got fun digs, like from
Speaker 2: Crowley saying who's the weakest and most expendable. That's that'd
Speaker 2: be the witches. Uh yeah, so then oh yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: and then it's it's transfer the mark to Sam record
Speaker 2: scratch m m.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Dean's like whoa, whoa, whoa whoa who over here sidebar
Speaker 2: b mcn you and me right now, Yeah, I'm damaged goods.
Speaker 2: Why can't you use me? Exactly? You've already had it.
Speaker 2: It's corrupted you. You know you're you can't handle this.
Speaker 2: Sam can handle it. Dean. You always said that if
Speaker 2: if it wasn't gonna be you know, if it couldn't
Speaker 2: be you, then it had to be me to deal
Speaker 2: with her because you can't. Why are you not on
Speaker 2: with this? And he's like, what happens if you go crazy?
Speaker 2: We'll like lock be up, throw away to keep. No,
Speaker 2: I'm not doing that. We get just the usual, the
Speaker 2: usual back and forth.
Speaker 1: About this was the moment when I realized I was
Speaker 1: supposed to be tracking the BNC, so it was all
Speaker 1: retrograde guessing from this point.
Speaker 2: There's only the one before it, so I think you
Speaker 2: only messed the one, okay, So then now now it's
Speaker 2: a tag time. We get astro Rowena saying hello to
Speaker 2: Amara and saying I'm with God. Do you want to
Speaker 2: come come kick his butt? Because I'm on your side, Girly,
Speaker 2: you and me, we're gonna do this thing. And Amara
Speaker 2: shows up and she's like, you're a liar. I know
Speaker 2: this is a trap. How am I going to repay you? Hmmm?
Speaker 2: And before she can figure that out, Rowena zaps her
Speaker 2: and she's like, Haha, that tickles. You're just one witch?
Speaker 2: You think you can take me down. She's like, I'm
Speaker 2: not just one witch. And then the whole full on
Speaker 2: attack from the what is now a coven, not just
Speaker 2: a witch is den. As we learned earlier, it takes
Speaker 2: three for a coven.
Speaker 1: Take a drink for attack.
Speaker 2: Yep, this is the witch attack. And they're attacking, and
Speaker 2: Jedi Amara shows up and eats the electricity and shoots
Speaker 2: it all back at them and bam, which is dead
Speaker 2: except for Rowena. She gets me too. I think, yeah,
Speaker 2: I think she just respected her. I think that's why
Speaker 2: the dark Amara is such an interesting, fascinating character, and
Speaker 2: obviously by doing the Chuck wagon, we've kind of like
Speaker 2: subsequently done the Amara thing, probably miss a couple episodes before.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I I think her. I think like and
Speaker 2: especially in her speech at the very end of this episode,
Speaker 2: where she's like, it doesn't have to be this way,
Speaker 2: like you didn't have to lock me up and didn't right,
Speaker 2: we talk about free will, like the free will of
Speaker 2: these two celestial primordial beings, which is why, by the way,
Speaker 2: we learn we learn also in this episode that Chuck
Speaker 2: can bring cast back, but can't bring archangels back because
Speaker 2: they're made of different stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're made of different ingredients.
Speaker 2: Start. So yeah, so the Witch's attack. Then the angels
Speaker 2: attack from up above and they they they try to
Speaker 2: smite Amara. That doesn't work, so it's time for the demons.
Speaker 2: And the demons are swirling around her and kicking her
Speaker 2: into the prowley his like leaves, and he punches her
Speaker 2: and really does a number. She still limps into the
Speaker 2: warehouse and like, yep, where are all these warehouses? I mean,
Speaker 2: I know there's a lot of warehouses out there, but
Speaker 2: they always know where the empty ones are.
Speaker 1: They've got a guy.
Speaker 2: There's got to be a guy or a direct.
Speaker 1: Job is to always find an empty warehouse.
Speaker 2: Always they have an empty warehouse. Uh yes. So Amara
Speaker 2: gets in there and she sees Chuck and now she's like,
Speaker 2: I can't believe you. You've cheated again. Why do you
Speaker 2: do this? Lucifer stabs her. She's now she's really down
Speaker 2: for the count. And this is where we get our
Speaker 2: third BM scene between Amara and Chuck, all about like
Speaker 2: what you know, we were? We were these beings we
Speaker 2: were And he's like, I wanted to create and you
Speaker 2: would want to destroy. Well, that's not the way I
Speaker 2: saw it. Like we you know, we're the Yin and yang,
Speaker 2: the light and darkness. We were both powerful together. Without
Speaker 2: one the other one is not as powerful and and
Speaker 2: all this, and it's this really interesting like back and forth,
Speaker 2: and it's interesting dialogue between the two of them about
Speaker 2: like like, yeah, we have free will. You didn't have
Speaker 2: to do this, This could have been negotiated, this could
Speaker 2: have been but you know, like why did it all
Speaker 2: have to come to this? And Chuck doesn't really have.
Speaker 1: Super great answers, like right, yeah, he really doesn't.
Speaker 2: He just doesn't. And uh so she is like ready
Speaker 2: to give up, just kill me, and that's when Chuck's like, yeah, sorry,
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna do that either, and starts transferring the
Speaker 2: mark to Sam. And when she realizes, when Amara realizes
Speaker 2: what's about to happen, she goes, no, I will die.
Speaker 2: I will die a million times. I will kill you
Speaker 2: just as many to never go back to that place again,
Speaker 2: as the mark starts peering and then fading away from Sam,
Speaker 2: reappearing on Amara. And because like I mean, she says
Speaker 2: this while she's choking Chuck, I forgot to mention that
Speaker 2: she's like totally chicking and then force choking him, so
Speaker 2: we get more Jedi Amara because she's forced chuck Chuck,
Speaker 2: and she she's like no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: no no, I'm not going back to that place. I
Speaker 2: hate it. And she beats the crap bay the Chuck
Speaker 2: and nearly kills him. And the only reason she probably
Speaker 2: doesn't is because Dean kind of like is like, no,
Speaker 2: don't and she clearly is like affected by that. And
Speaker 2: so the yeah, she takes out Chuck, or we think
Speaker 2: she takes out Chuck. We we go away and cut
Speaker 2: back from commercial and like, Amara, what have you done?
Speaker 2: You kiach Chuck? No, he's dying, and she's like, I
Speaker 2: am about to go on my rampage. Basically, it's yeah,
Speaker 2: it's time, it's time. And yeah, I mean Chuck just
Speaker 2: kind of laying there twitching.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in his tiny body and his tiny.
Speaker 2: Little body, and that I'm pretty sure is the end
Speaker 2: of the episode. I don't have any more the.
Speaker 1: End of the.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no like other b unseen wrap up or
Speaker 2: anything like that. We just we are just onto the
Speaker 2: finale mm hmm of season eleven.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a good episode. That was a meaty,
Speaker 1: beefy treat.
Speaker 2: Yes, And it features so many years of culmination of
Speaker 2: characters and storylines and arcs and it it's a good one.
Speaker 2: I liked, you know, watching it here, I think for
Speaker 2: the third time, I'm like, yeah, no, I still I
Speaker 2: really do still like this episode.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2: I think it. I think there's so much about it
Speaker 2: that could be you know, can really be a cause
Speaker 2: for discussion and stuff. So I I really do. I
Speaker 2: like it, And I like I like the mix of
Speaker 2: the Biblical and the and the Dante and the just
Speaker 2: kind of like all the putting all the myths in
Speaker 2: one and that's what the show's about. Like, I think
Speaker 2: that this is a really great example of the true
Speaker 2: ethos of Supernatural is like we're going to create this story.
Speaker 2: It's gonna have adventure, it's gonna have peril, but it's
Speaker 2: also gonna have love. But it's also going to like
Speaker 2: take all your favorite stories and kind of put them
Speaker 2: into one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's gonna mix them up and shake them
Speaker 1: around and make them something you never imagine, right.
Speaker 2: And that's even evident by having like our fun like
Speaker 2: Ocean's eleven style sequence where it's like I just like
Speaker 2: who thinks to do that? I don't know. I think
Speaker 2: it's a good device to like move your episode along quickly,
Speaker 2: especially when you're trying to like assemble a crew, but
Speaker 2: like you know, there's more boring ways to do that,
Speaker 2: and I think that they they do so many fun things,
Speaker 2: and so it really this episode. Maybe appreciate the show
Speaker 2: a lot, like most of them do, but but this
Speaker 2: one really I liked it. So I think there's I
Speaker 2: think we still get one more chuck Wagon episode in
Speaker 2: the end of season eleven here, and then maybe we'll
Speaker 2: take a small slight break before getting back on it, okay,
Speaker 2: because there's only a little bit more left to go,
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna I'm gonna game it out and see
Speaker 2: how many more we would have to do. But we
Speaker 2: might take a brief pause because there's a couple of
Speaker 2: Monster of the weeks I think I want to maybe do. Okay, next,
Speaker 2: So Chrissy, what speaking of next? Oh?
Speaker 1: Wait?
Speaker 2: No, not next? How did the dream? Oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: how many times did you count Lucifer acting like a
Speaker 2: petulange child?
Speaker 1: Four?
Speaker 2: I also got four?
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, okay, good?
Speaker 2: How many pie charts? How many times did you see
Speaker 2: some pie charts.
Speaker 1: I only saw them once, but I know that you
Speaker 1: got twice.
Speaker 2: I got twice. Yes, So it's the first scene where
Speaker 2: he's with the demons and then when Dean comes in,
Speaker 2: they have like a wide shot and they're still sitting
Speaker 2: there on the table. So funny pie charts and hell oh,
Speaker 2: another good album title. Anytime the End of the World
Speaker 2: is mentioned.
Speaker 1: Or discussed, I got nine.
Speaker 2: I got six. So, like I said, that one was
Speaker 2: very much more like a subjective. They're talking about it
Speaker 2: kind of the whole a lot of the time, so
Speaker 2: I think I went for more like literal, like they say,
Speaker 2: end of the World are.
Speaker 1: Like okay, okay, I.
Speaker 2: Don't know, you know who knows how I counted. I
Speaker 2: was just trying to drink, but you were trying to
Speaker 2: drink more. Apparently I only got one therapy talk session.
Speaker 1: Oh I counted two.
Speaker 2: Two? Okay both? Wait wait were they both Lucifer and Chuck? Yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: because I guess they cut away and they could cut
Speaker 2: back and cut away Ocean's eleven style sequence. I got three,
Speaker 2: I got four. Okay, all right, all right, all right,
Speaker 2: all right, Rowena and sult Sam. I think we both
Speaker 2: had three three.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: Obviously our mug kick happens once. The witch tach happens once,
Speaker 2: although like I said, probably should have been one drink
Speaker 2: for every attack Jedi amara twice.
Speaker 1: Oh I only counted once.
Speaker 2: So I counted like when she takes the Witch's lightning
Speaker 2: and like shoots it back at them as being Jedi
Speaker 2: more of a Syth style move.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I could just kind of when she lifted
Speaker 1: him up in.
Speaker 2: The as yeah, uh, that's what inspired me to create
Speaker 2: the rule. And then upon the rewatch, I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: the lightning, that's the Jedi thing too, and then I
Speaker 2: have three.
Speaker 1: B M scenes Oh me too, Okay.
Speaker 2: Okay cool. So yeah that was the game. It was,
Speaker 2: you know, not the heaviest game, but it was there.
Speaker 2: If you play pop culture reference, you'll drink a lot
Speaker 2: more because you have like Game of Thrones, the Full
Speaker 2: House references. There's several others that I'm forgetting at the moment,
Speaker 2: but yeah, I liked it. I liked this episode.
Speaker 1: I did do. I thought it was a really fun
Speaker 1: game and it was a fun watch. I enjoyed watching
Speaker 1: Nisha Collins so much that it just took me through
Speaker 1: the episode on a little wave of happiness.
Speaker 2: Yes, this wouldn't be the worst one to maybe do
Speaker 2: a mashup of either.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it could be interesting.
Speaker 2: I think there's enough action and then you have a
Speaker 2: small but like they're all like, you know, they're all
Speaker 2: big characters, rather than it being like we're playing some random,
Speaker 2: you know, extra or bit person. Right, they're all big,
Speaker 2: fun characters that people will get to play.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2: Do you got a brief down a Tello moment, like
Speaker 2: there's enough like action like kind of things. I think
Speaker 2: that happened. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it would be a good one.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna mark that in the mental notebook of for
Speaker 2: years to come.
Speaker 1: This one might be Yeah, And I'll ask you about
Speaker 1: it at some point.
Speaker 2: And I'll be like, I can.
Speaker 1: What episodes did we say?
Speaker 2: What episode are we going to play next?
Speaker 1: Chrissy, Oh, we're gonna hang out in season seven for
Speaker 1: a while. We're gonna do some season seven exploration.
Speaker 2: Seven we haven't done.
Speaker 1: Yep, we're gonna do season seven episode three, The Girl
Speaker 1: next Door, an episode directed by Jensen. Oh yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: here are your rules? Are you ready ready? If someone
Speaker 1: says Leviathans take a drink. If Sammy has a lucifer
Speaker 1: halucifer or lucifer nation, take a drink. If Bobby says balls,
Speaker 1: take a drink. Take a drink. For a pop culture reference,
Speaker 1: take a drink. When Dean talks about pie. We're playing
Speaker 1: the gank rule. If anyone says gank, take a drink.
Speaker 1: Although I think it should be a shot. I think
Speaker 1: it should be a shot. Yes, if someone says gank.
Speaker 1: If someone says pituitary, take a drink. If Dean says
Speaker 1: son of a bitch, always always, take a drink. If
Speaker 1: someone says freak, take a drink. And if someone talks
Speaker 1: about the other shoe dropping, take a drink. You know
Speaker 1: which episode this is.
Speaker 2: We're trying to remember.
Speaker 1: This is the controversial one where Sammy falls in love
Speaker 1: with the monster and Dean kills her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, oh, I remember. I remember this one. It's hard.
Speaker 1: It's a hard one, but it's a fun one too.
Speaker 1: It's both fun and hard. Directed by Jensen A. Goolfs.
Speaker 2: I don't let my apprehension at how hard I am
Speaker 2: remembering it being as excitement. I am excited because like, yeah,
Speaker 2: season seven, leviathans we love Season seven.
Speaker 1: Oh, so many Leviathans, ah okay, Nate. Where can people
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