WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.720 --> 00:00:06.120 It's night with Dan Ray. I'm going Boston's News Radio. 2 00:00:06.480 --> 00:00:10.320 I'll thank you for re introducing me to the audience. Yes, 3 00:00:10.400 --> 00:00:13.359 I'm Morgan White Junior. Been a part of the BZ 4 00:00:14.240 --> 00:00:19.160 landscape roughly since nineteen ninety five ninety six. I'm here 5 00:00:19.199 --> 00:00:22.079 tonight and I'll be here throughout the week into next 6 00:00:22.120 --> 00:00:25.760 week filling in for Dan Ray. My guest tonight is 7 00:00:25.879 --> 00:00:30.120 Jimmy Myers, and Jimmy, you touched upon it or caller 8 00:00:30.359 --> 00:00:38.119 brought it up last hour Game five Boston Garden triple overtime, the. 9 00:00:38.159 --> 00:00:40.520 Legendary game nineteen six. 10 00:00:40.640 --> 00:00:44.799 There were seventy six my mistake, there were two seconds 11 00:00:44.920 --> 00:00:51.719 left on the clock, and for whatever reason, everybody thought 12 00:00:51.719 --> 00:00:57.640 the game was over. The referee called both teams back 13 00:00:57.679 --> 00:01:00.359 on the court because those two seconds had to be 14 00:01:00.399 --> 00:01:07.000 accounted for and played out, and fans, a couple of fans, 15 00:01:07.879 --> 00:01:12.599 rowdy fans, attacked the referee for bringing that to everybody's attention, 16 00:01:13.519 --> 00:01:20.200 and you got directly involved when these fans were attempting 17 00:01:20.239 --> 00:01:24.760 to beat up the referee. You tried to pull the 18 00:01:24.799 --> 00:01:30.079 referee out of being punched and kicked, and then security 19 00:01:30.120 --> 00:01:33.400 got involved, and we all know how that ended. But 20 00:01:33.480 --> 00:01:38.760 you physically had to risk your well being to save 21 00:01:39.000 --> 00:01:43.400 an NBA referee. And that gets me to talking about 22 00:01:44.359 --> 00:01:50.159 fan violence. And that was way back seventy six, So 23 00:01:50.359 --> 00:02:00.799 many decades later, and we see it happening a lot 24 00:02:00.840 --> 00:02:05.120 of times after your team has won the championship, has 25 00:02:05.159 --> 00:02:09.280 won the Stanley Cup, has won the Super Bowl, whatever, 26 00:02:10.280 --> 00:02:13.800 And I want to talk about that. You and I 27 00:02:13.879 --> 00:02:18.199 when we first arranged you coming on tonight, I brought 28 00:02:18.240 --> 00:02:21.680 this subject up to chat with you about it, and 29 00:02:21.719 --> 00:02:25.439 I forgot that you were directly involved in a fan 30 00:02:25.840 --> 00:02:29.479 violence melee and what can we do. 31 00:02:29.520 --> 00:02:30.159 To stop it? 32 00:02:30.199 --> 00:02:34.680 Look back at two years ago with Kansas City, that 33 00:02:35.360 --> 00:02:43.520 community was destroyed, millions of dollars of damage by happy fans. 34 00:02:43.960 --> 00:02:45.400 They won, they won. 35 00:02:45.199 --> 00:02:48.439 The Super Bowl, yet instill their fans went crazy. 36 00:02:48.639 --> 00:02:51.800 Morgan, it goes back further than it goes back to 37 00:02:52.800 --> 00:02:59.120 the eighty seventies. I've watched this phenomena to a degree, 38 00:02:59.360 --> 00:03:03.159 this aberin behavior situation get so totally out of control 39 00:03:03.639 --> 00:03:07.520 that it's frightening to even think about taking a young 40 00:03:07.599 --> 00:03:11.840 person to a parade or something like that. Unfortunately, the 41 00:03:12.479 --> 00:03:15.479 Boston Marathon situation always stays in my head when these 42 00:03:16.240 --> 00:03:19.240 terrorsts set off a bomb that wound up injuring and 43 00:03:19.319 --> 00:03:23.520 maiming people and so forth. But to a degree on 44 00:03:23.560 --> 00:03:26.719 the same level, I saw the city of Detroit just 45 00:03:26.759 --> 00:03:30.840 about destroyed in nineteen sixty eight when the Tigers wound 46 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:33.800 up winning the World Series. Thank goodness they had won. 47 00:03:33.840 --> 00:03:35.960 If they had lost, there's no telling what would have happened. 48 00:03:36.199 --> 00:03:41.400 And I've seen so many other cities that wind up being, 49 00:03:41.719 --> 00:03:44.800 you know, being the victims of millions of dollars of 50 00:03:44.919 --> 00:03:49.400 taxpayers money that has to be used to repair the city. 51 00:03:49.599 --> 00:03:51.719 I remember in sixty seven when the Red Sox won, 52 00:03:52.199 --> 00:03:54.960 I remember how the fans had stormed the field. Now, 53 00:03:55.039 --> 00:03:58.560 remember it had been twenty let me see, forty forty 54 00:03:58.560 --> 00:04:01.800 six to sixty seven, twenty one years since the Red 55 00:04:01.840 --> 00:04:06.199 Sox had even sniffed basically being in a World Series. 56 00:04:06.719 --> 00:04:08.520 They got there in forty eight in the playoff, but 57 00:04:08.599 --> 00:04:12.520 lost to Cleveland. But going back to that time, I 58 00:04:12.560 --> 00:04:16.160 remember watching on TV and seeing the fans just storming 59 00:04:16.199 --> 00:04:18.720 the field. When Lonboard got the last out. People were 60 00:04:18.800 --> 00:04:21.360 running all over the place, grabbing players. They tried to 61 00:04:21.439 --> 00:04:27.279 rip Lonboard's jersey off. Yeah, yep, well it's uniform. But 62 00:04:27.360 --> 00:04:31.480 I go back to nineteen sixty five, three years before, 63 00:04:32.360 --> 00:04:36.279 when John Hailchak stole the ball and Habilcheck could barely 64 00:04:36.319 --> 00:04:39.360 get off of that court. I mean they pulled the 65 00:04:39.480 --> 00:04:44.079 stirrups on his jersey so hard they left deep welts 66 00:04:44.120 --> 00:04:48.920 in his shoulders, both shoulders, and they had to fight 67 00:04:48.959 --> 00:04:52.000 to get off the floor. I remember, I remember so 68 00:04:52.079 --> 00:04:55.680 many of these situations. They become They become nauseating to 69 00:04:55.720 --> 00:04:59.000 me for one reason because I spoke to a couple 70 00:04:59.040 --> 00:05:02.439 of psychiatrists o years and a couple of sociologists, and 71 00:05:02.439 --> 00:05:04.360 they all come up with the same thing. This is 72 00:05:04.959 --> 00:05:11.079 that release point that people who are normally not that 73 00:05:12.240 --> 00:05:15.319 level in thinking anyway get a chance to get off. 74 00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:17.279 They get a chance to say I can go out 75 00:05:17.319 --> 00:05:21.319 now and do something in the midst of a celebration 76 00:05:22.279 --> 00:05:25.160 that nobody's going to say anything about. Think about this, Morgan, 77 00:05:25.240 --> 00:05:27.360 two thousand and four. Now, I'll give you a couple 78 00:05:27.360 --> 00:05:29.560 of dates going back. Let's just go back to two 79 00:05:29.560 --> 00:05:34.519 thousand and four. A girl was killed that night in 80 00:05:34.560 --> 00:05:40.879 the midst of the Red Sox celebration, lost their life. Dumb, 81 00:05:40.920 --> 00:05:43.399 dumb bol To. Something hit her. But if please're trying 82 00:05:43.399 --> 00:05:46.360 to quell a riot, And I'm just saying that these 83 00:05:46.360 --> 00:05:54.319 things they're so badly out of proportion. Now it makes 84 00:05:54.680 --> 00:05:58.519 every single mayor of every single city, every governor of 85 00:05:58.560 --> 00:06:04.600 every single state copprehensive in regards to how much security 86 00:06:04.639 --> 00:06:08.800 can we actually get to make this thing fairly safe. 87 00:06:09.120 --> 00:06:09.240 Now. 88 00:06:09.279 --> 00:06:12.519 I'm told the Celtics parade this year was pretty pretty respectable. 89 00:06:13.000 --> 00:06:15.560 I mean, there were a few arrests at the arrests 90 00:06:15.759 --> 00:06:17.879 as usual, but I'm not talking about the type of 91 00:06:18.600 --> 00:06:21.160 out and out violence that was in Kansas City a 92 00:06:21.199 --> 00:06:23.639 couple of years ago. That was like over the top. 93 00:06:24.319 --> 00:06:26.560 And I think all the time, I say to myself, 94 00:06:27.279 --> 00:06:31.360 what compels someone to do something like this? When the 95 00:06:31.360 --> 00:06:36.800 Philadelphia Phillies won in nineteen eighty, Philly's hadn't won, Phillies 96 00:06:36.839 --> 00:06:41.079 hadn't won in years. Leeve me, I'm from Philly, I know. 97 00:06:42.079 --> 00:06:44.319 And I talked to my sisters, my brothers, and I 98 00:06:44.360 --> 00:06:46.600 asked him. I told him, I said, please just in 99 00:06:46.720 --> 00:06:48.959 me your favorites. If you're going to the parade, please 100 00:06:49.000 --> 00:06:51.439 be careful because those people are going to be drunk. 101 00:06:52.040 --> 00:06:53.519 That's another reason a lot of these, a lot of 102 00:06:53.639 --> 00:06:55.519 this has to do with alcohol. Lot these and people 103 00:06:55.560 --> 00:06:57.800 think that now I can drink. Now I can do this, 104 00:06:57.959 --> 00:07:00.360 and now I can pour champagne all over year, all 105 00:07:00.399 --> 00:07:02.800 over my head. Most of them can't afford champagne, so 106 00:07:02.839 --> 00:07:04.519 they're going to pour a cheap beer over their head 107 00:07:04.839 --> 00:07:07.399 and if enough of it gets down, if enough of 108 00:07:07.399 --> 00:07:10.399 it gets down into their stomach, then they're truly intoxicated. 109 00:07:10.600 --> 00:07:13.000 But I remember the Philly celebration, and then I remember 110 00:07:13.040 --> 00:07:16.839 when Julius Irving's team won in eighty three, and I 111 00:07:16.879 --> 00:07:20.920 remember they had these ceremony. First they brought the team 112 00:07:21.040 --> 00:07:24.800 the big parade to right the to the field they 113 00:07:24.879 --> 00:07:27.439 used the I believe the Phillies Baseball field, and then 114 00:07:27.519 --> 00:07:32.439 they went inside. But I've seen this too many times, Morgan, 115 00:07:32.839 --> 00:07:37.120 and there have been deaths that had been associated to this. 116 00:07:37.639 --> 00:07:40.680 I remember during the Lakers, during the Lakers' House in 117 00:07:40.800 --> 00:07:44.879 years in the eighties, they had all kinds of security 118 00:07:45.480 --> 00:07:49.800 all through the parade route, all away, all the beginning 119 00:07:50.040 --> 00:07:52.120 through and at the end of the parade booth. But 120 00:07:52.199 --> 00:07:56.920 you just can't control that many people. And then of course, 121 00:07:57.439 --> 00:08:00.240 you know, the governors got together across the United States 122 00:08:00.279 --> 00:08:02.240 and the mayors and they said, maybe we shouldn't have 123 00:08:02.319 --> 00:08:05.040 these things. Well, this is a release to a lot 124 00:08:05.040 --> 00:08:07.639 of fans that the good fans are not going to 125 00:08:07.680 --> 00:08:09.920 act like that. They're not going to go out there 126 00:08:10.279 --> 00:08:12.920 and do crazy stuff. They're just going to cheer their 127 00:08:12.920 --> 00:08:17.560 team on Bravo as they ride by or whatever, cheers 128 00:08:17.639 --> 00:08:21.000 and so forth. Yet at the same time, you still 129 00:08:21.000 --> 00:08:25.319 gotta worry. I even fired off a missus to Patrick 130 00:08:25.319 --> 00:08:29.040 Mahomes because when that first one, not last year, the 131 00:08:29.040 --> 00:08:33.320 one before, he was pouring beer on himself, pouring beer 132 00:08:33.360 --> 00:08:35.960 into the stands. And I've known Patrick since he was 133 00:08:35.960 --> 00:08:38.440 a little boy. I've known his father. His father, Pat 134 00:08:38.440 --> 00:08:41.320 Mahome's senior pictures fout the eleven Major League teams. So 135 00:08:41.320 --> 00:08:44.679 I saw Patrick when he was a child basically, and 136 00:08:44.720 --> 00:08:47.559 I said, you know, I know a lot has changed, 137 00:08:48.519 --> 00:08:51.279 but you're a role model. You got to understand what 138 00:08:51.440 --> 00:08:55.080 you're doing. He's talking out cans of beer into the stands, 139 00:08:55.639 --> 00:08:57.759 you know, the full gans like Corys beer, whatever I 140 00:08:57.799 --> 00:09:00.519 can of beer. I said, if you throw that thing 141 00:09:00.879 --> 00:09:03.600 and it hits somebody in the eye or something, they 142 00:09:03.600 --> 00:09:06.159 can lose an eye. Now, if you also, let's go 143 00:09:06.240 --> 00:09:08.480 back a couple of years ago. Let's go let's go 144 00:09:08.519 --> 00:09:10.600 back to the website celebration of two thousand and four 145 00:09:11.240 --> 00:09:14.480 wasn't If I'm right, Coorra's Doorna was injured in that. 146 00:09:16.000 --> 00:09:18.759 The manager's door was injured. You are right, Yeah, she 147 00:09:18.879 --> 00:09:22.919 was injured in that. So I constantly see this, and 148 00:09:23.000 --> 00:09:25.279 I asked myself, you know what I'm watching is out 149 00:09:25.320 --> 00:09:27.519 here we go again, and I just hold my breath 150 00:09:27.519 --> 00:09:30.480 and say, please, let these people get home, Let the 151 00:09:30.519 --> 00:09:32.360 cops be able to do what they need to do. 152 00:09:32.879 --> 00:09:35.080 And I mean, I've seen the burning cars, I've seen 153 00:09:35.120 --> 00:09:37.559 all the damage done. And then you go down to 154 00:09:37.679 --> 00:09:41.080 you walk through that battle zone and next day and 155 00:09:41.120 --> 00:09:43.519 you say to yourself, this was supposed to be a 156 00:09:43.559 --> 00:09:47.440 happy occasion. This was supposed to be a celebration. 157 00:09:48.360 --> 00:09:50.840 Jimmy, let me stop you here. We'll pick this point 158 00:09:50.960 --> 00:09:54.559 up right after we take a break. Anyone else, if 159 00:09:54.559 --> 00:09:56.080 you want to call in, fine, If you want to 160 00:09:56.080 --> 00:10:01.799 just sit back and listen, that's fine too. Seven two, five, four, ten, 161 00:10:01.919 --> 00:10:06.399 thirty eight, eight, eight, nine to nine, ten, thirty eleven, 162 00:10:06.519 --> 00:10:09.559 sixteen twenty seven degrees. 163 00:10:11.159 --> 00:10:14.159 Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World 164 00:10:14.279 --> 00:10:17.399 night Sight Studios on WBZ News Radio. 165 00:10:18.240 --> 00:10:22.480 Let me tell you tomorrow night, Christmas evening, I'm going 166 00:10:22.519 --> 00:10:26.240 to be doing Christmas trivia for the first couple of hours, 167 00:10:26.279 --> 00:10:28.080 and Donna help Her is going to be in at 168 00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:32.279 ten and she and I will be doing some reminiscing 169 00:10:33.159 --> 00:10:40.120 about holiday specials. And on Tuesday, next Tuesday, I will 170 00:10:40.159 --> 00:10:45.120 not be at the Midway restaurant. That's New Year's Eve. 171 00:10:45.320 --> 00:10:47.639 I will not be there, but I will be there 172 00:10:47.679 --> 00:10:53.720 the following Tuesday. I do believe that's the seventh of January. Now, 173 00:10:54.519 --> 00:10:59.039 Jimmy Myers and I are here, we're talking about fan violence. 174 00:10:59.440 --> 00:11:03.919 Let me give you an example. Your mom and or dad, 175 00:11:04.120 --> 00:11:07.679 you're both, You're one or the other, doesn't matter. And 176 00:11:07.720 --> 00:11:12.720 you've taken your kids to go see the Patriots, the Celtics, 177 00:11:12.799 --> 00:11:18.120 the Bruins, the Red Sox, and it's just an everyday game. 178 00:11:18.759 --> 00:11:26.039 It's another game on the schedule. And i'll say Red 179 00:11:26.080 --> 00:11:34.559 Sox for this example. You hear some leather lunged, loud 180 00:11:34.639 --> 00:11:38.879 mouth yelling ob seeing things about what he sees in 181 00:11:38.919 --> 00:11:45.559 the field good to bad Yankees or Red Sox, and 182 00:11:47.679 --> 00:11:52.679 you wish an usher would come and make this person 183 00:11:52.759 --> 00:11:56.440 behave because you don't want this embarrassing behavior in front 184 00:11:56.480 --> 00:12:01.279 of your kids. Now, multiply that to you're on the 185 00:12:01.320 --> 00:12:07.039 parade route, you're in front of City Hall where the 186 00:12:07.159 --> 00:12:11.919 duckboats and the caravan of cars with all the players 187 00:12:12.039 --> 00:12:17.360 are on it, and the crowd is just unruly, and 188 00:12:17.399 --> 00:12:23.159 you fear for the safety, not of you, of your children. 189 00:12:24.840 --> 00:12:30.120 That is just a reality that happens. This is not 190 00:12:30.519 --> 00:12:33.240 a Twilight Zone imaginary episode. 191 00:12:33.759 --> 00:12:34.799 This is reality. 192 00:12:35.440 --> 00:12:41.279 Whether it's in Boston or Detroit, or Philly or Kansas City. 193 00:12:42.720 --> 00:12:49.159 When your team wins the championship or they lose the championship, 194 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:54.279 mob mentality takes over, and we've got to be able 195 00:12:54.320 --> 00:12:56.320 to stop at Jimmy. 196 00:12:57.480 --> 00:13:01.399 More than as I mentioned before, I've spoken with very 197 00:13:01.440 --> 00:13:07.600 professional people in this business, a psychiatrist, psychologists, sociologists, and 198 00:13:08.399 --> 00:13:13.679 particularly I've spoken to a lot of security people, police, FBI, 199 00:13:13.960 --> 00:13:18.240 so forth. And it's a dilemma of something that we're 200 00:13:18.240 --> 00:13:21.039 going through now that we may not go out of 201 00:13:21.120 --> 00:13:24.279 for a while. The frightening part for me in this 202 00:13:24.960 --> 00:13:27.879 is the fact that I always ask myself when I'm 203 00:13:27.919 --> 00:13:30.759 watching a parade or something, please don't let anybody get killed. 204 00:13:30.799 --> 00:13:33.440 Please let these people get home safely. I mean, I 205 00:13:33.440 --> 00:13:36.679 know they're going to be arrested. There always are some 206 00:13:36.679 --> 00:13:38.200 people are going to be spending night in jail and 207 00:13:38.240 --> 00:13:40.759 going to court the next day and getting a police 208 00:13:40.799 --> 00:13:43.320 record for something that they should not be getting a 209 00:13:43.320 --> 00:13:46.200 police record for. They should not be having to deal 210 00:13:46.240 --> 00:13:49.360 with the court system the way we have to. But 211 00:13:50.240 --> 00:13:53.200 this is our way of life. I mean, I remember, 212 00:13:53.720 --> 00:13:56.279 I remember at the times of some of the big 213 00:13:56.320 --> 00:14:00.480 parades when the Yankees won in the sixties. That's what 214 00:14:00.559 --> 00:14:03.759 I really picked up sports. Yankees was the dominant team. 215 00:14:04.120 --> 00:14:06.559 Remember the year that Dodger beat the Yankees in sixty three. 216 00:14:06.600 --> 00:14:10.360 They swept them at Sandy Kopax, who was from Brooklyn. Oh, 217 00:14:10.360 --> 00:14:14.120 oh my goodness, he put a beat down on them 218 00:14:14.159 --> 00:14:16.080 like you would not believe. He took out twenty five 219 00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:19.480 batteries and two which game one. In Game four, they 220 00:14:19.519 --> 00:14:22.799 swept them, And I remember the parade in Los Angeles 221 00:14:22.840 --> 00:14:27.360 afterwards pretty orderly. Nobody was tearing up anything. They were happy. 222 00:14:27.720 --> 00:14:31.559 That was sixty three. Then you come back to eighty 223 00:14:31.919 --> 00:14:36.120 when Magic Johnson's team won. Go up seventeen years and 224 00:14:36.159 --> 00:14:38.240 a whole bunch of things had changed since that time. 225 00:14:38.519 --> 00:14:41.720 I mentioned the sixty seven Red Sox mainly because the 226 00:14:41.759 --> 00:14:45.759 city was you know this is they have a piece 227 00:14:45.799 --> 00:14:48.559 on right now on your sports channel. It's called The 228 00:14:48.600 --> 00:14:52.000 Impossible Dream Year sixty seven. You should really watch it. 229 00:14:52.120 --> 00:14:54.759 I mean everybody in this town should watch it. Remember 230 00:14:54.799 --> 00:14:57.960 this team are not won during the Ted Williams era. 231 00:14:58.039 --> 00:15:00.720 Basically he was in the forty six World Series and 232 00:15:00.840 --> 00:15:04.080 only hit like one. Twenty five Cardinals beat him, didn't 233 00:15:04.159 --> 00:15:08.159 And from then up to sixty seven basically nothing. And 234 00:15:08.200 --> 00:15:11.879 then Yas takes this town on this magical ride. I 235 00:15:11.919 --> 00:15:14.799 mean one of the Triple Crown great pitcher, I mean, 236 00:15:14.840 --> 00:15:18.960 great great hitter, Jim Lonboard, pitched his butt off coming 237 00:15:19.000 --> 00:15:21.480 down the stretch they went on the last day. The 238 00:15:21.559 --> 00:15:24.120 fans were on the field, but I didn't see that 239 00:15:24.200 --> 00:15:26.039 kind of violence. Now, there was a lot of you know, 240 00:15:26.080 --> 00:15:28.679 I saw a lot of craziness out there. Then I 241 00:15:28.720 --> 00:15:32.399 spin up to when I become a reporter and I 242 00:15:32.440 --> 00:15:35.039 start covering some of these events, and I was there. 243 00:15:35.799 --> 00:15:37.639 I was there when Chris Shamblers hit the home run 244 00:15:37.639 --> 00:15:40.759 in Yankee Stadium that won, that won the World the 245 00:15:40.799 --> 00:15:44.440 won the Pennant America Lick Pennant against Kansas City and 246 00:15:44.720 --> 00:15:49.559 Richard Chase was my cinematographer at WBZ at the time, 247 00:15:50.080 --> 00:15:54.000 and I remember Richard when when Chris Shamblers hit the ball, 248 00:15:54.080 --> 00:15:56.559 we both looked. I looked at Richard. We got to 249 00:15:56.559 --> 00:15:58.120 get on the field, We got to get out there. 250 00:15:58.159 --> 00:16:01.840 He says, take the microphone. I'm going to hold you 251 00:16:01.919 --> 00:16:05.519 to my back. But going out in the middle of this, Morgan, 252 00:16:06.360 --> 00:16:09.440 it was like the most chaotic scene I have ever 253 00:16:09.480 --> 00:16:13.879 seen in my life up to that point. Now, I 254 00:16:13.919 --> 00:16:15.919 remember when fifth get the home run the year before, 255 00:16:15.960 --> 00:16:18.799 in seventy five. I was there a filmy bar. Yes, 256 00:16:18.960 --> 00:16:21.559 I mean they played they played the Hallelujah Chorus or whatever. 257 00:16:21.600 --> 00:16:24.679 That night. People were going nuts. But the Red Sox 258 00:16:24.759 --> 00:16:27.960 didn't wind up winning. The Yankees won to get into 259 00:16:28.000 --> 00:16:30.480 the World Series in seventy six, did wound up getting 260 00:16:30.480 --> 00:16:34.360 swept by Cincinnati because Cincinnati beating the Red Sox in 261 00:16:34.399 --> 00:16:36.960 seventy five and came back and swept the Yankees. And said, 262 00:16:37.039 --> 00:16:41.600 but this night, Chris Shambles is home run. I remember 263 00:16:42.279 --> 00:16:46.240 the damage that was done to that field. Now Shambles 264 00:16:46.320 --> 00:16:49.000 is trying to run around the basis. This is a 265 00:16:49.120 --> 00:16:51.600 true story, Morgan. Chris Shamers can tell you this to 266 00:16:51.679 --> 00:16:54.840 this day because I was there. Richard Chase and I 267 00:16:54.919 --> 00:16:57.080 right out on the field was shooting. Richard Chase is 268 00:16:57.080 --> 00:16:59.759 sixty six, so he's shooting down to the crowd. I'm 269 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:03.000 owning the microphone for sound, for natural sounds, because they're 270 00:17:03.000 --> 00:17:08.160 doing films, and people were ripping up grass off the 271 00:17:08.200 --> 00:17:11.519 field and stuffing it in their mouths, in their pockets 272 00:17:11.640 --> 00:17:16.720 and there, you know, in their paths whatever. And I'm 273 00:17:16.759 --> 00:17:18.680 looking at all these people going nuts. Now I know 274 00:17:18.720 --> 00:17:22.240 the Yankees had not one since it sends start. Let 275 00:17:22.279 --> 00:17:23.480 me see, when was the last time. I'm in the 276 00:17:23.480 --> 00:17:27.480 series sixty four and they lost to the Cardinals and 277 00:17:28.039 --> 00:17:31.119 twelve years of gone by. Young were used to losing 278 00:17:31.119 --> 00:17:33.079 back to winning back in the thirty forties and fifties 279 00:17:33.279 --> 00:17:37.480 just about every other year whatever. So I'm watching shambles 280 00:17:37.559 --> 00:17:40.720 run around the basis. By the time he got the 281 00:17:40.799 --> 00:17:45.599 second he was mobed, Morgan. I mean, it was like 282 00:17:45.640 --> 00:17:49.200 a sea of humanity just fucked this man up. And 283 00:17:49.240 --> 00:17:52.359 he was pushing and shoving. They were ripping his jersey off. 284 00:17:52.640 --> 00:17:56.160 I saw scratches on him where people had torn his skin. 285 00:17:56.839 --> 00:18:00.000 He got to third base, Morgan, We got the third base, 286 00:18:00.880 --> 00:18:03.400 and he was smart. Chase and I were Richard Chase 287 00:18:03.400 --> 00:18:05.960 and Ire on the mound. By this time, he ran 288 00:18:06.319 --> 00:18:12.440 into the dugout, down the steps and into the locker room, 289 00:18:12.599 --> 00:18:15.519 up the tunnel into the Yankees' locker room. Now the 290 00:18:15.599 --> 00:18:17.920 Yankees are on the first base side. This is the 291 00:18:17.960 --> 00:18:20.440 thirsd base dugout. He ran into the visitor's dugout just 292 00:18:20.480 --> 00:18:22.680 to get away from the cloud. Now by this time, 293 00:18:22.759 --> 00:18:26.440 everything is a madhouse, Morgan. It's just getting more and 294 00:18:26.640 --> 00:18:31.279 more intense. It's just getting wild, right, So we start 295 00:18:31.400 --> 00:18:37.000 backing up into the Yankees dugout, and I'm standing there 296 00:18:37.799 --> 00:18:41.519 and I see this little black man sitting on the 297 00:18:41.640 --> 00:18:46.319 Yankees bench, and I knew who he was. And the 298 00:18:46.359 --> 00:18:52.000 cops started swinging billy clubs, knocking people down, blood slime 299 00:18:52.079 --> 00:18:55.319 all over the place, and they went after this man. 300 00:18:57.680 --> 00:19:00.200 Dance says, you're listening to this. I saw this with 301 00:19:00.200 --> 00:19:02.960 my own two eyes. Richard Chase saw this with his 302 00:19:03.039 --> 00:19:06.000 own two eyes. And they started approaching this little man, 303 00:19:07.200 --> 00:19:10.920 and I ran over and dove in the middle of it. 304 00:19:10.960 --> 00:19:14.480 I said, don't touch him. This is Willie Randolph's father, 305 00:19:14.559 --> 00:19:18.240 Willy randalls the second basement for the Yankees, right Willie Randolph. 306 00:19:18.599 --> 00:19:21.359 Willy Randolph came out of the dugout and just his 307 00:19:21.440 --> 00:19:23.720 shirt in his tants. I mean it's a T shirt 308 00:19:23.759 --> 00:19:27.160 and pants, grabbed me and his father and started pulling 309 00:19:27.200 --> 00:19:30.160 his father comfortably to beat his father into the ground. 310 00:19:30.519 --> 00:19:33.400 They thought it had stolen Willy Randall's glove. Willie Randall 311 00:19:33.400 --> 00:19:35.400 had tossed it to his father in the midst of 312 00:19:35.440 --> 00:19:38.200 the celebration. These stories that I remember for the rest 313 00:19:38.200 --> 00:19:41.359 of my life. But I remember the chaos that caused 314 00:19:41.400 --> 00:19:44.119 the cops to come down into the dugout and get 315 00:19:44.160 --> 00:19:48.079 ready to hit this older gentleman. Miss Randall's one the 316 00:19:48.160 --> 00:19:50.200 nicest people in the world. Willie Randolman could still tell 317 00:19:50.240 --> 00:19:52.759 you the story to this day. So he said, you 318 00:19:52.839 --> 00:19:55.079 know you helped save my father. I said no, I 319 00:19:55.200 --> 00:19:56.720 just happened to be there. But I kne who your 320 00:19:56.759 --> 00:19:59.640 father was, which was much more important because they were 321 00:19:59.680 --> 00:20:02.839 beating up everybody with your chase had a camera, so 322 00:20:02.880 --> 00:20:04.920 they weren't going to hit him. Plus he was sixty six. 323 00:20:05.319 --> 00:20:08.200 Jimmy Mius was Jimmy MIAs said, the cord wrapped around 324 00:20:08.279 --> 00:20:10.039 him like a little baby. I was at taxed to 325 00:20:10.079 --> 00:20:12.039 his back, so they weren't going to hit me because 326 00:20:12.039 --> 00:20:14.720 I got the microphone in my hand. But they were 327 00:20:14.720 --> 00:20:16.720 going after this little old guy, and he just said, 328 00:20:16.880 --> 00:20:20.119 and Willie ran off and grabbed him from the from 329 00:20:20.279 --> 00:20:22.519 the lower seats and pulled him into the dugout wallast 330 00:20:22.599 --> 00:20:24.240 was going on. But this is the kind of stuff 331 00:20:24.240 --> 00:20:27.160 I'm telling about. When stuff like this happens, things get 332 00:20:27.200 --> 00:20:30.640 out of control, and they get out of control fast, 333 00:20:30.680 --> 00:20:34.079 and before you know it, somebody's laying on the ground, 334 00:20:34.119 --> 00:20:36.759 either seriously injured or in the case of the young 335 00:20:36.839 --> 00:20:40.599 lady at the at the at the Red Sox celebration dead. 336 00:20:41.559 --> 00:20:45.440 I mean, that takes everything away from any type of celebration. 337 00:20:45.880 --> 00:20:48.240 I think I'm pretty sure their parents settled some kind 338 00:20:48.279 --> 00:20:51.759 of lawsuit. It's not gonna bring their child back. Five 339 00:20:51.799 --> 00:20:54.680 million dollars tens. That's not going to bring your loved 340 00:20:54.720 --> 00:20:58.880 one back. And all this person did was went to 341 00:20:58.920 --> 00:21:03.559 the game and to celebrate when they want, that's all. 342 00:21:04.640 --> 00:21:06.839 And they were in Saint Louis when they won, so 343 00:21:06.920 --> 00:21:09.680 I think this was going on during that time everybody 344 00:21:09.839 --> 00:21:12.880 went to Famiway Park or whatever. I'm just saying, this 345 00:21:13.039 --> 00:21:16.559 is so crazy, Morgan, and it's just too hard to 346 00:21:16.599 --> 00:21:20.519 try to break down to people to make them understand. One, 347 00:21:21.559 --> 00:21:24.759 I don't drink them, so maybe that pushes me to 348 00:21:24.799 --> 00:21:27.200 a different level. I've never been a drinker. I won't 349 00:21:27.240 --> 00:21:29.559 become a drinker now because I'm diabetics and there's no 350 00:21:29.559 --> 00:21:31.440 way I'm going to put alcohol in my body. But 351 00:21:32.079 --> 00:21:35.680 I would tell anyone who drinks, if you really want 352 00:21:35.680 --> 00:21:37.559 to go to these things, you really want to appreciate 353 00:21:38.160 --> 00:21:43.359 what this moment is about, go sober, drink afterwards, Go 354 00:21:43.400 --> 00:21:45.920 home and drink afterwards. You don't have to drink before 355 00:21:45.960 --> 00:21:49.119 you get there. Yeah, but no, you don't have to 356 00:21:49.200 --> 00:21:51.680 drink before you get there. Drink while you're there, and 357 00:21:51.720 --> 00:21:54.839 then drink as the cloud is dispersing. And then I 358 00:21:54.920 --> 00:21:59.960 also know, I also know from clear experience that alcohol 359 00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:04.400 looses loosens inhibitions in certain people, sometimes the wrong things, 360 00:22:04.880 --> 00:22:11.039 a lot of times the wrong things. But I'm saying, Morgan, Morgan. 361 00:22:11.200 --> 00:22:13.880 But when you're a victim of it, it's different. I mean, 362 00:22:13.960 --> 00:22:16.960 I know, I've heard the N words flattered when people 363 00:22:17.000 --> 00:22:19.119 get drunk or whatever, and I say to myself, they 364 00:22:19.119 --> 00:22:21.240 would never say that if they were sober, They would 365 00:22:21.279 --> 00:22:24.400 never act like that if they were sober. But now 366 00:22:24.400 --> 00:22:27.160 they're in a free flow situation. We can say anything 367 00:22:27.200 --> 00:22:29.799 we want, we can do anything we want. No life 368 00:22:29.839 --> 00:22:32.680 doesn't work like that. I looked at the Dodgers parade 369 00:22:32.720 --> 00:22:35.440 this year. Well I looked at the Dodgers parade this year, 370 00:22:35.880 --> 00:22:40.759 and they had so much security on that parade route. 371 00:22:40.920 --> 00:22:43.960 It was incredible. And go back to the days when 372 00:22:43.960 --> 00:22:47.000 they used to go back to the Giants winning the 373 00:22:47.000 --> 00:22:52.839 Super Bowl, the Yankees winning during those years, Jeter's years, 374 00:22:53.279 --> 00:22:55.960 and the two Super Bowls, even Lauren Taylor Super Bowl. 375 00:22:57.240 --> 00:23:00.400 That parade down to Canyatar Heroes is one of the 376 00:23:00.400 --> 00:23:04.240 most dynamic things you'd ever want to see. I'm telling you, 377 00:23:04.559 --> 00:23:06.759 if you don't have to be a New York fan 378 00:23:07.200 --> 00:23:10.599 to understand the magnitude of how they get two to 379 00:23:10.960 --> 00:23:14.920 three million people in that one confined area and cops 380 00:23:14.960 --> 00:23:18.519 are all over the place. I really ever heard any 381 00:23:18.599 --> 00:23:22.440 real bad things. I'm sure there are. I'm sure there are, 382 00:23:22.960 --> 00:23:26.079 but they do a pretty damn good job of doing 383 00:23:26.119 --> 00:23:29.440 that one. And when the WNBA women won this year, 384 00:23:29.480 --> 00:23:33.000 when the Liberty won, their parade was pretty pretty tame 385 00:23:33.119 --> 00:23:35.720 too considering. And I think they had two million at 386 00:23:35.720 --> 00:23:39.559 that parade because that's the first time the Liberty they 387 00:23:39.559 --> 00:23:44.400 ever won a Titland the twenty eight years of the WNBA. Yeah, 388 00:23:44.400 --> 00:23:45.119 it was a big deal. 389 00:23:45.680 --> 00:23:48.480 Let me take my break here and when we come back, 390 00:23:48.559 --> 00:23:51.799 we have a call from Popkinton who wants to join us. 391 00:23:52.559 --> 00:23:56.799 So time and temperature on night side eleven thirty one, 392 00:23:57.440 --> 00:23:59.640 twenty seven degrees. 393 00:24:00.079 --> 00:24:04.720 On night side on w B Boston's news radio. 394 00:24:05.480 --> 00:24:09.960 Dan is off tonight. He's off until the first of January. 395 00:24:10.839 --> 00:24:14.519 That's a week from today, next Wednesday. My name Morgan 396 00:24:14.559 --> 00:24:17.759 White Junior. I'll be here through all the night sides 397 00:24:17.799 --> 00:24:20.799 between now and then. I've got Jimmy myern S here 398 00:24:20.799 --> 00:24:22.279 it with me and we're going to take a phone 399 00:24:22.319 --> 00:24:25.920 call from Hopkinton. Bob, I thank you for holding for 400 00:24:25.920 --> 00:24:27.680 fifteen minutes. Welcome. 401 00:24:27.880 --> 00:24:31.720