Speaker 1: All Star Toyota presents Off the Bench with Jacob Hester
and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go where.
Speaker 1: The plays get broken down, then science gets denied to.
Speaker 3: Come off the bitch.
Speaker 1: Hour two of Off the Bench Live from the Mercedes
Benz Baton Rouge Studio starts now.
Speaker 4: All right, looking back in O TV one, O four five,
ESPN ben Rouge Hour number two gonna catch up with
I got Bobby Carpenter, Big ten, Bob the General here
in a matter of minutes.
Speaker 3: You think you'll have this meta glasses on.
Speaker 5: You stole it from me.
Speaker 4: I was about to say he's gonna join us on
video and it was gonna be Where in the world
is Bobby Carpenter if we were putting betting lines on
the weight room minus three fifty.
Speaker 3: Minus minus eleven.
Speaker 5: Uh, yeah, I don't. I don't know where else by.
Speaker 3: The last time he was in the Ohio State weight Room.
Speaker 4: Bob's got a locker in there, I think, yeah, like
truly like I think he has a locker in the
weight room.
Speaker 3: We just have a locker at ls US. When we
were playing the NFL Lockers, did we where there was
like a little wall? I mean it was a small
little cuby, but it was in the locker room. There
was a small wall, and it was for all the
NFL players.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean you never worked.
Speaker 3: Down in the off season.
Speaker 4: I stayed in stayed the Eggo in the off season,
and because I was paying for a house there, like
you know, I forgot to stay in it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'd come back here and they'd give us all
workout gear and they'd wash clothes and stuff. Should have
taken advantage of it. Can we still do it? Nope?
Well not more because we were retired last week. Until
last week, we should have rethought that is great.
Speaker 4: You know what I didn't think about, Like since we
officially retired, now we can put in our application for
the TV show that I'm trying to create.
Speaker 5: Don't call it a comeback.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were eligible for the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 6: Sorry, what's up?
Speaker 5: I don't know that the snicker was needed. I don't
think that the laugh.
Speaker 3: I don't feel like we got enough headlines either from
that retirement Tiger droppings. Taylor didn't even post it, post
it on our own shows. All right, Socials, we.
Speaker 7: Can, we can, y'all made Tiger droppings again, Like Tuesday,
this one was not as positive.
Speaker 3: Oh someone sayeah, that's right. Someone said it when yesterday
during the show, like they got upset at us. Someone
was upset because we agreed too much.
Speaker 6: Oh, y'all are like the car brothers.
Speaker 3: Over there.
Speaker 7: They agree too much, and I'm like, what do you
want them to do? Spit in each other's faces?
Speaker 4: Like we agree too much? Okay, I can fix this. Hey,
just call Bob.
Speaker 5: I don't really know. Okay, you can just give me.
Speaker 3: Most of our disagreements are at break.
Speaker 4: That's very true, So we should bring those on air,
is what you're telling me. Like we're just kind of
having a slight argument about how dumb the offenses you
played in are.
Speaker 7: Here we go otb post t Bob. This is the
thread title.
Speaker 3: It just sucks.
Speaker 7: I like both Hester and Flynn, but together on radio
makes me want to go play in traffic. I think
they need to find someone who will come in and
have actual discussions and get the blood flowing instead of
agreeing on every single subject. I know they are the
mouthpiece for LSU, but some honest assessments would be nice
every so often. Maybe it's just that time of the
year and when football actually starts, it will get better.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the mouthpiece, what are we going off of? We like,
we've had one practice in nots.
Speaker 3: I agree, we have only had one practice.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, they had like the number one portal class
and like all these things, like a lot of positive
people have picked them to win, like the national championships.
Speaker 5: So the mouthpiece, Okay, well I.
Speaker 6: Don't find it necessary to give these people airtime, to
be honest, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Based off you know, based off that one practice. We'll
argue about it later.
Speaker 6: Look, he has a medaglasses.
Speaker 2: Here we go.
Speaker 5: Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know though, does he win the bet? Though
we had we had minus three thirty odds he'd be
doing it from the weight room. It looks like, let's
let's bring Bobby up. It looks like he's in the indoor.
So does that count as the weight room?
Speaker 3: Bob? What do you think?
Speaker 8: Well, it probably does. It constitutes. When you text me
said I want to do video or phone. It was
eight fifty six. I was finishing up my last couple
of sets there, so yes, and I'm frantically trying to
get this thing to load. So I apologize for the tardiness,
but yes, until nine o'clock. I had it scheduled Hester
where I was going to be in the weight room
from about eight five to about eight fifty eight and
then come on out here and get a better scenic
backdrop for you.
Speaker 4: I can appreciate that, Bob. Always a pleasure in college football.
Like now everyone has started training camp, so like give
us kind of the boots on the ground. Are you
going to go out there watch the Buckeyes practice? When
did did they get started yesterday as well?
Speaker 8: Yeah, they came in and reported for camp yesterday. Today
is the first practice, and so you guys know how
it goes. And then you come in you you know now,
I mean with the nil era and everything else. They
have some open to the public. You come out here,
you know, raise some fun, sign some autographs. They do
that for like the first three four days and then
they really get the pads crack in here. I think
Sunday or Monday. So the first couple of days obviously
just acclimation period of everything getting checked in. But this
is the first official day of practice for the buck Eyes.
Speaker 4: See most people, Bob, like they would kind of we
talked about it. You get a little cold sweats thinging
training camp, you kind of get a little pit in
your stomach. I'm gonna assume like maybe you were the
complete opposite, because I'm sure if Ryan came over there
right now, it's like, hey, Bob, I need you for
inside run, Like you'd probably go over there.
Speaker 5: Bob's class. There we go, We got it.
Speaker 2: Oh no, there we go.
Speaker 8: Yeah, sorry about that, And an audio dropped out for
just a second. But yeah, if Ryan came over, I'd
be like a blind dog in the meathouse. A problem,
miss Hester. It's like me, haven't done it for so long.
You get so excited. I have a lot of wasted movement,
wouldn't be near as efficient as I ultimately need to be.
But yeah, I'm like you man to start a camp.
You know, it's exciting for a couple of days. Then
you just get beaten down. I mean, you're to grind.
You're working. It's fun, but yeah, it's a little bit.
It's a little bit of a grind when it comes
down to it.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 8: And I always liked it, but there was that feeling of, hey,
you're saying goodbye to your life as you basically know it.
For about five in the NFL, maybe six months hopefully.
Speaker 2: So. Yeah, there's a lot that goes into it. There's
no vacations.
Speaker 8: You don't get you know, time off, you get a
buy week here or there, but it's it's a lot
of the same thing, the groundhog day over and over
against You've got to focus up and get your mind
prepared for what you've been training for all off season.
Speaker 3: Bobby, I love your background right now, but can we like,
can you give the folks in Louisiana just like an
inside glimpse? I can you like spend the phone a
little bit, Can we see the indoor facility a little
bit more?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, we can take a little look. It just
kind of on me. Pulled out.
Speaker 8: I got this little mag back here, plunter, so yeah
around there. Yeah, yeah, they just put up all these new,
this new stuff. They've got some new ones over here.
There's they light up now back there, so yeah, I'll
head over here so you can kind of see some
of the other stuff too. But they're they're hoping that
it doesn't rain. I'm heading out here. We were out
we did our local broadcast this morning from uh here there,
warming up and everything beforehand, trying to get this practice
in before the rain, But they got the.
Speaker 2: New bench.
Speaker 3: There. That's sexy all right.
Speaker 8: You know, you guys know when whenever you win, you
got to go through and update all your stuff, and
so it's a great thing. But then they spend like
all summer getting new stuff up there, making sure it
looks good. You know, you've always got to keep updating
at the new next coach always wants more things. So
it was right the first titles, they kind of went
through and renovated everything and took it to that next
level for him.
Speaker 4: So yeah, so you're telling me you and aj y'all's
pictures have come down basically, is what you're saying.
Speaker 2: All those came down long ago.
Speaker 8: Man, I mean they've got you guys know you allo
his first shown draft picks and everything. You know, I
said it joking around this guy in our show and
he goes, you know, they did the top They did
the top twenty five players out of Central Ohio in
the last twenty five years, and so I was number
six on that list.
Speaker 2: And how do you feel about that?
Speaker 8: You know, there's been some really good players that have
come out, so I felt pretty good about it. They
go what you know, because I like chat GBT or AI, like,
what are you ranking Ohio state linebackers and it's came
back sixteenth and I was like, I mean that's pretty good.
Speaker 2: I mean there's a lot of guys in there that won.
Speaker 8: A lot of awards. And you know, I was an
All American, but not to the degree of like even
my teammate AJ Hawks. So you know, you take what
you can get when you go to a big time program.
Speaker 3: That's all right. My son, my son googled me like
a couple of weeks ago, is like, hey, Dad, I
just heard you were like the eleventh best quarterback in
let's use history. And I was like, yeah, thanks, fun.
I appreciate the honesty over there, but yeah, you.
Speaker 8: Can ask ask him how many the other ten of
national titles. That's the key flinter, that's right.
Speaker 3: You can't take that away. Hey, So I'm kind of
curious to get you. I'm seeing the indoor facility and
I'm thinking it back to like my days in Green
Bay playing up north, Like we had these crazy like
heated coils under the field turf that kept the one
that where you could practice and play. Of course in
Lambeau like in the cold weather. What does Owado State
do because you play outside. What do y'all do during
practices when it's snowing and cold in the dog days
of winter.
Speaker 8: So it's interesting end up coming the indoor here a
lot of times. And before they played Tennessee, though, Keenan Billley,
the tight ends coach, you know, on tight end's kind
of an interesting position because you get a lot of
different styles of guys there. I mean, you've got the
Jimmy Graham, who you know, if you can get him
to do a cutoff block on the back side of
his own a stretch zone like you're feeling good about that.
And then you've got your guys that are more like
our guy Ben Hartsock, who you know, are more They've
got like that that hy kind of looks like a
te sometimes and they put you out there on the
field and just like a tackle over situation. And so
Keenan Bailey's tried the tight ends coach Ohio Stage tried
to impress on everybody in the importance of blocking and
like getting tough, and so what he did before the
Tennessee game, they were doing inside drill out, their their
individual period outside all year long, and so it was
like snow on the ground twenty degrees and he goes,
I don't give a damn what the rest of.
Speaker 2: The coaches are doing. Like we're going outside.
Speaker 8: We're gonna do ten minutes blocking each other, man on man,
dude on dude, getting after it and like we're gonna
be tough and then we can come in and do
inside and get our work in. But it's there's an
elements where just you've got to practice in it. You
got to be smart because you want to make sure
you're getting in a fishing practice and you know it's
not a wind tunnel when guys are getting sick and
everything else, but you are going to be playing in it,
so you do have to be experienced and be ready
to handle it.
Speaker 5: All right, Bobby, So I got to ask you.
Speaker 4: Behind you, I see a couple of big ass fans,
that's what they're called.
Speaker 5: Literally, do we not have ac and heating in there?
Speaker 4: And if we don't, I know a guy in Columbus,
Ohio that can get that done.
Speaker 2: So they do have heating in here.
Speaker 8: They've got the old school, like heating coils up top
that we'll heat it up inside. And like for bull practice,
they trusted always crank it up super hot.
Speaker 2: I'm like, dude, it's not this hot.
Speaker 8: And we're playing like in the winter in Florida or
like Arizona. We're playing indoors. Like dude, it doesn't need
to be like ninety degrees. But he mostly wanted to
get everybody like, lean back down. I think, get them
fast again, you'll get them rolling after the cold winter.
Speaker 2: But yet there is no ac in here.
Speaker 5: I mean, put in a bid, Bob, get that contract.
Speaker 8: So they put those mere man, it was brutal. Trust
would bring us in because I'm getting out of the sun.
How you do it like a hot air balloon, There's
no you would just be sweat pouring off yourself. It'd
be terrible. So if they've got the big ass fans
they put in here, there's like eight of them, and
it feels pretty good. And so the thing is hester
I'm running my conditioning test tomorrow after our radio show.
So we got twenty half gassers on seventeen seconds or
thirty seconds breath. I ran eighteen on Saturday. It was
a little difficult, but I probably tied two more in
the bag if I needed them. But I wanted to
make sure I'm running them outside where like maybe there's debreeze,
maybe there's not. Yeah, you know, I'll probably run him
like a cutoff, maybe no shirt. But you know with this,
like I've been training, like yell, little fleece on, so
make sure I can really embrace that heat because it's
been it's been pretty frothy up here the last couple
of days.
Speaker 3: Do you just you rob Doug by yourself? You running
gassers by yourself, time and number? You have somebody that
comes out and puts the clock to you.
Speaker 2: So I had my Apple watch it.
Speaker 8: I'll run them with myself and I'll set all that
up normally when I train, but for this, you know,
in anytime you got the show, I get my guy
Schlegs out here, who is a teammate of mine but
also strength coach. And so strength coaches are the best timers.
They're gonna be loud, they're gonna be decisive with their
times coming in and so he's gonna come over tomorrow
and he's gonna be my guy. He's gonna he's gonna
video or not video. He's gonna time me and get
me ready to go, provide a little music and everything,
and it should be should be a good time. I'm
even we're gonna have my kids come over for practice.
So hes so, I'm gonna have my third grader and
sixth grade. They're gonna be my hype squad with some
of their friends. We're gonna show them like how to
do hard things and like to embrace the suck a
little bit.
Speaker 4: Oh, I love it, Bob, You're the man. We appreciate
you joining us. Hopefully you and I can hop back
on Channel eighty four. I think I got you coming
up here in a couple of days, little meathead Radio.
Appreciate the time as always, sir, and we'll catch up
again soon.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, guys, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 4: All right, there he is the general Big ten, Bob,
Bobby Carpenter.
Speaker 5: I mean they were about to come in the endoor
for practice.
Speaker 3: Yeah they were.
Speaker 5: I don't heard the whistle and the coach in the background.
Speaker 3: I think if they were too running there, yeah, for practice.
I don't know if he would have moved. Oh, I
don't think you would have finished interview.
Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't know that anybody.
Speaker 4: Access to a facility anywhere in the country more than
Bob has Ohio State shot. I call the games for
l s U Like I'm on the broadcast. If I
went over there right now and had a computer walking
around in the endoor, they would be like, what get
out of here?
Speaker 3: What are you doing?
Speaker 4: Not Bob when I catch up with players from Ohio State,
and I was like, hey, blah blah blah, like I
do radio with Bobby Carp Like, oh, mister Bob, Like
everyone up knows mister Bob.
Speaker 3: It's amazing. The the verbiage that he uses is so
like the exact same as AJ. They talked the exact
same little bit different energy. They're just they're just people.
Speaker 5: To Ohio meatheads.
Speaker 3: They are just some funny people.
Speaker 2: Man. Uh.
Speaker 5: I was going to like get to like the Big
ten or something like that.
Speaker 3: I was like, so, I was way more curious when
he started talking. I was like, I want to see
the rest of it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, me too.
Speaker 3: I want to see the rest of that room. Yeah,
I want to see the banners. Yeah.
Speaker 4: And he like he's also telling the truth, like every
year he does the conditioning test, like whatever Ohio State's
conditioning test is, like, because they probably did it, probably
doing it right now or maybe yesterday when they reported,
he all like whatever they do, like he gets the
information and replicates it.
Speaker 3: Like when we were at LSU, we would we would
do the conditioning test before we got our week off,
didn't we.
Speaker 5: I think so it was like it was like it
was the finisher. Yeah, I think I think they do it.
Speaker 3: Think that's probably the way to kill yourself before practice starts.
Speaker 5: I know we in San Diego we did the report day.
Speaker 3: I was on one team that had a conditioning test. Yeah,
on all my teams.
Speaker 4: We only had it one year, and it was because
everybody was fighting for their job.
Speaker 5: Yeah, type situation in sang.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Patriots had it when I was I've heard
about Theirs. Yeah. Yeah. That was the only team I
ever had a conditioning Yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean it's super easy compared to like Tommy Moffatt's.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like it was something like twenty fifties
or something like that. Yeah, which I've never heard of
twenty fifties, like somebody. It was like fifty yard Okay,
I don't know. It was weird. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Look when you come from the school of Tommy Moffett,
no matter what you told me, I'm like, yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Couldn't do it. I popped a hamstring getting ready for
the conditioning test and my at LSU. Sure you did, Bud,
I did? Hey, what else do you think I did it?
I just got this hammy. Just if you were scared
to run, just say it character Yep, you're right, I was.
So you had to say love Bobby though, love Bob.
Speaker 4: Uh. We're trying to have Bob and AJ and Bob's
already agreed to it every Friday during the football season.
Speaker 5: We're trying to have a quad box. So I've done
my part.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: No, tough pool, Okay, a tough pool. Like I reached
out to my Ohio friend. He just did an interview
from the indoor while they're practicing at Ohio State for
the national champion and then you pull your weight.
Speaker 3: Well it's AJ. I don't know. It's just a different
level of stardom. You know, you've only.
Speaker 7: Reached out one time to AJ and he came on
one for one.
Speaker 3: You're bat in a thousand month, that's true.
Speaker 5: You can get him.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I probably need to see because a lot of
times they do. He travels with on Fridays with I
don't know what they're it seems like they should change. Well,
we're gonna ask him. Don't worry, I'll tell him. I'll
just tell him he's gonna do it.
Speaker 6: You're putting out the narrative that he's pretentious.
Speaker 3: Yeah you are.
Speaker 5: I'm a little bit of his meat head stack.
Speaker 3: I'm setting it up to where I'm making it sound
really hard and then so y'all celebrate. Okay, that's what
I get it.
Speaker 6: It's like, what were we talking about yesterday? It was
Saints camp, like you expect absolutely nothing because they're bringing
thirty second. Their rosters ranked thirty second in the NFL.
So you went yesterday and what did were you?
Speaker 5: You were like better than that? Yeah, yeah, I think
it's better than that.
Speaker 6: I think saw the starters.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 5: Thirty second. That was that was about thirty second.
Speaker 6: I mean that wasn't really the point of what I
was saying.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I know, I know you're saying.
Speaker 4: I know what you're saying with squirrels basically, just get
AJ like stop, like we're trying to create this deal
like this segment.
Speaker 5: I don't know, and they get Tony Romo, they get AJ.
Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 1: From Players to Legends, Hester and Flynn breakdown LSU football
like only champions can you got all right?
Speaker 4: Welcome back again o TV one of four five ESPN
Baton Rouge. I was boots on the ground yesterday at
New Orleans Saints training camp and although Jay Caner got
the reps like he was technically QB one, yesterday's practice
had a chance to see all three of the quarterbacks,
all four of the quarterbacks technically, but the three that
are in the battle to be the starting quarterback. Each
of them made their plays. Sure, each of them made
their mistakes, obviously, But if I'm just going off of
vibes of who I think looks the most comfortable and
the most ready to be a starting quarterback, and it's
it's probably unfair a little bit Tyler Shuck because he
is a rookie, even though he is going to be
twenty six. We all know that that narrative, it's Spencer
Rattler and he got starts last year, which Matt, you
can speak on this better than I can. I'm sure
that helps him in the process of leading the team
and being a little bit more comfortable, a little bit
more relaxed.
Speaker 5: But like Tyler Shuck.
Speaker 4: Looks the part of what you used to have to
look like to be a starting quarterback in the NFL. Right,
He's got the height, he's got the frame, he does
have a big arm. But when you watch Spencer Rattler
and kind of the I want to say, like he's
improving back there, but if a play's not perfect, he
handles that much better than the other two quarterbacks. The
other two quarterbacks compared to Spencer Rattler and Nigga. I
think most of this for Tyler Shuck is the fact
that he is a rookie, but they're robotic.
Speaker 5: It's like I was coached to do this.
Speaker 4: I was coached to do A, then B, then C
and if it doesn't work out in that order, then
I get off my marker and it's not going to
be a great play. Where I feel like Spencer Rattler
has a hey, maybe sees the best option right now,
and I'm not scared to go to see first instead
of A and B, And he just looks more fluid,
he looks more relaxed. And he made a couple of
plays yesterday that I don't know the other two right
now can make. Yeah, watched the plate. Okay, see it had.
Speaker 5: A little swag to it.
Speaker 4: It had a little I was telling y'all, like, he
got you know, pressure pretty pretty right away off the
right side.
Speaker 5: And he didn't panic. He didn't like try to like
roll out of the pocket like you do in college. No,
he saw it.
Speaker 4: He stayed calm, he stepped up, he stepped out, hit
his back foot and threw a sixty yard past to
Chris a Lobby for a touchdown. The other two don't
have that. I don't know that Jay can or will
ever have that. Tyler Shuck might have that one day.
Spencer Ratler has it right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's what you're seeing right now is again
it's it was practice six yesterday, so it's still early
in training camp. But what you're seeing is that difference
that that I talk about. It's that year one to
two jump. I mean, you could probably go back and
look at Spencer Rattler. A year ago, I practice number
six in training camp and probably looked a little bit
more like like like shuck is from a and what
you're kind of talking about what I hear when you're talking,
what I hear is like the the pre snap process
a little bit more robotic, like like right, that's it,
and then then line up and you gotta you know,
and then you know, maybe with Spencer is like hey, Mike, Mike,
Mike right, Mike right, and then hey, be alert, be alert,
Like it's just more like taking the snap count and
he's not looking at the center like when you're when
you're kind of and I'm not going to say robotic,
but when you're learning the NFL game, you look robotic.
Speaker 4: You're just so nervous and you want to get everything
exactly right, and you are robotic.
Speaker 5: It's okay, Like we all have been through.
Speaker 3: And you can see you can see a different and
like the subtleties that a guy like you can watch
when you go to practice, whether somebody that hasn't been
in the fire like that is you can see those
interactions to see who's actually more comfortable within the offense.
And it's not just the clips of when the ball
comes out of their hand in lands and receiver's arms
like those tell you a lot, but a lot of
the other stuff paint the picture about comfortability, how guys
respond to them, and just what that year one to
two jump for a quarterback is such a huge difference maker.
He can make or break your career right because you
can make such a big jump. And it's all about
that comfortability once you actually settle in to the NFL,
the speed of it, the knowing that there is chaos
happening all around you, but knowing that there's answers to
all the chaos that can be presented, all the problems
that can be presented to you. There is an answer
to it. You just have to have your wits about you.
You got to be able to visualize see everything. You
can't be just be locked into the center has the ball.
I gotta get the snap from him. I got to
say the right snap count. I have to tell them
which mike to go to. I have to read one, two,
and three. When when you're not just worried about executing
the play like strong on the playbook, all the other
things cerebral things that go around it and I think
that's what you're saying. Now, Shuck will get there, and
I know, I guess I have to condition myself to
talk about hater too, because Moore has told us what
his actions that he was in the But Shuck will
get to that point. He will. I mean, it doesn't
matter that he's twenty six, he's a rookie, it doesn't matter,
Like you have to that that experience a rattler's kind
of feeling right now and that comfort level he's allowed
to play in right now is because of experience. Yeah,
and it's not always like I got that experience. My
my year one to two jump was night and day
and I didn't play. It was just comfort, like my
comfortability and being in the NFL, being in an offense,
understand in the offense and knowing, like dude, this protections
like me not getting hit is up to me, Like
I gotta move the line. I have to move. I
have to understand a blitz is coming off. I got
to know if I'm picked up or not. And if
I am picked up, that's an NFL running back in
NFL tackle that's gonna pick it up, right Like I
don't have to guess. I trust and I can I
can slide and I can move and I can hit.
Like Okay, if he comes, this route concept changes my
read changes of this guy comes. Yeah, and it just
comes naturally and it flows. So that's why we've been
kind of high on Rattler to be the starter. And
it's look, it's it was practice six, practice seven would
be to day. There's a long way to go, but
as of right now, from what you're saying, it's kind
of what we thought might be happening at this point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's like training Cam day number six
or whatever, but I think they've actually had like ten practices.
Speaker 5: Uh, trust me. The players like yesterday, like my coast
was like day.
Speaker 4: Number and Cam's like, no, no, no, that's day We're talking
about the practice number.
Speaker 5: You know, Cam's a veteran.
Speaker 4: VET and he stopped and he's like, so, I mean
they've got a good sample size. And so for Jake
Cander to still be in the conversation, it's more than
just six days, just you know, more practices than that.
Speaker 3: But right they're doing two days.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know how you remember how it used
to be like where you do like the THEWS practice,
the walk through.
Speaker 5: That ends up being a jog through that ends up
being a kind of.
Speaker 4: A at times a little sprint violation type situation. And
there was so many you know people yesterday, and obviously
the quarterback is gonna be the most intriguing position, but
I was I was laughing because there was people taking
so many like notes when they had so they had
three managers like equipment managers that you know, they go
they put the gloves on. There's one in five yards,
there's one ten yards in the end zone, there's one
fifteen yards. Like they're running like a you know, fifteen
yard dig round the back end of the goal line there,
and like so many people like taking notes on like
on every single throw. I'm like, guys, this isn't where
the job is going to be won. Like this job
is not going to be one with these three guys
going to these three managers, like you know, this is
just Scott running a drill. Like for me, like the
biggest moment for me, it wasn't that. It wasn't even
it wasn't even the Rattler pass. And I know we
got to go we had JD, but it wasn't the
Rattler pass to a lobby for six yards.
Speaker 5: That was a great play.
Speaker 4: One of the things to me is like, okay, this
this thing's becoming a little bit more narrow as far
as the competition. There's an RPO play. Spencer kind of
pulled it, made the defensive end commit to go inside.
He bounced it outside right, so he beat the first
line of defense, and then he kind of got in
a foot race with the linebacker down the sideline and
you had like six or seven offensive guys.
Speaker 5: Like all right, rat rat that rat that.
Speaker 4: I'm like, that's organically them telling you that they're starting
to see him as the guy when you see like
six or seven guys get excited when a guy makes
a play. So I'm not saying that the competition's over.
I think it is going to go from three to
two when they go out west. But Tyler Schreck's gonna
have to make up some room if he wants to
stay in the competition. Just based off what I saw
one practice one day, yep, Because it does feel like
Spencer is starting to have those starting qualities for that.
Speaker 3: And it's still the first week, so it's like there's
a lot of overreaction too. But from if we're making
decision off of week one, which is not the case.
Got a lot of preseason games, a lot of pridices left,
so well you will see.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, locked in on LSU football twenty four to seven.
You're listening off the bench.
Speaker 4: All right, Welcome back in OTV one of four five ESPN.
Ben Rouge very excited as always. Catch up with our
next guest, JD. Pakel joins us. Talk a little college football, talk,
a little LSU Tigers, and JD, I'm sorry we're late
getting to you. We had Bobby Carpenter on and he
was telling us how he was getting ready to run
the Ohio State Conditioning test because that's what mead heeads do.
But but that might not be as impressive as what
I just saw you do flat footed in a pool,
jumping up and you conquered it. Sir, You got both
feet on the ground, stood up, and you did it.
Your family can no longer be ashamed of you.
Speaker 5: Well done, sir.
Speaker 9: What I appreciate that one, uh to got a little
bit of a of like a rolling star there to
have to work our way up to flat foot. But uh,
I mean, hey, first of all, I will I will
back clean up Bobby Carpenter every single day of my life.
So there, I mean, whatever time y'all, y'all say hey
tomorrow two thirty am. You know, come after Bobby Carpenter's
say phenomenal, I'll be away. So glad to talk to
ball with y'all. Man football top it.
Speaker 4: Is, man, and I think a lot of our listeners
are pretty excited to hear you talk not only college
football but LSU Tigers, and you're.
Speaker 5: Going all in. You're going all in on LSU.
Speaker 4: I saw you eat the Popeyes chicken sandwich, which is
you know, very Louisiana of you. I can appreciate that
as you picked LSU to go win a national championship.
So I'm going to open up the floor to you, JD, Like,
what are the things that you love about this LSU
football team as we get started here.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think it's one like the Popeye chicken sandwich
if I was on the fence about it really kind
of one of those things that just kind of get
you some closure. It's like, okay, and this was the
right decision. As a chick play guy my whole life,
it felt good to go Popey's there. But no, in
all seriousness, I think it's kind of the perfect storm
of what LSU has versus where college football is. Like
we've talked about this a lot. I know this was
a point that just got beat to death during media days,
but a ton of new quarterbacks in the SEC, but
in college football at places that you would expect to be,
you know, contenders for the national championship from a roster standpoint,
and so I think it's getting overlooked a little bit
how good that roster actually is at LSU because of
what last year was and maybe by comparison with what
some of the other teams in the SEC have, Like
I mean, y'all know what they did in the portal
to go at not just top end talent but also
real depth. Gives me a lot of confidence obviously in
LSU A lot of excitement at LSU. And also we
were in Atlanta and talked to about Moscona. He kind
of dropped his gym on me. Uh, the way the
schedule lines up for LSU not in the sense they
don't have tough teams on there.
Speaker 8: But there's no.
Speaker 9: Just really brutal two game stretch or two three game
stretch where you say, oh, that's just that's going to
do him in. You know, there's no cross your fingers.
Can we get over this crav off that is our
schedule right now in the month of November, Like, I
don't see that BREDLSU, And that was going to point
it out to me. So that was helpful for him
to kind of a corpse to bat here when we
let me pick an LSU. So yeah, all that combines
to say, I think that the last thing I want
to make sure we main't clear about. You know, the
LSU side of things is, whenever you say something definitive
about a team or a coach that hasn't gotten the mountaintop,
people are very quick to say, well, can't win the
big one. They say it about James Franklin right now,
they're saying about Brian Kelly right now it's just such
a to me, that's like a three kids, three jobs,
no caffeine, tired level of talking point. It's just like
we said that about Kirby Smart too. Did we not
send it about Jim Harrible? They last year? It's like
they can't tell they do, and then when they do,
it was never true to begin with. So that's that's
a lot there. But uh, to put it simply, I
like Alice do a lot this year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Jad, what's up and good? It was
great to meet you at SEC media day, so so
glad to have you on. We appreciate it. So you
gave your your responsor about LSU kind of y LSU
and what was I'm going to say, refreshing because you're
talking about the other pieces of the pie when it's
on this LSU football to him. But you didn't bring
up nuss Meyer, who is kind of the the the
leader of all of this because of the quarterback position
and being a returner and being a solidified guy. So
I mean I would expect, like there's things that you
just that he did last year that you're not going
to improve on. He's making NFL type plays, but there
are things that he can improve on. So what do
you need to see from him to be able to
uh kind of fulfill this, uh this prophecy that you've
had that they're going to win the national championship. What
do you need to see from him from the from
an improvement standpoint?
Speaker 9: Well, first of all, for everyone that is listening right
now and can't actually take in the visual of Matt
Flynn first team all that all right, So on that
OL radio row, I wasn't sure what to expect. Good,
good area size. Obviously, on the hand, they have really
good contact. So I want to make that clear.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 9: Second part that would answer your question, I love and
you can only speak of this as the well of
anybody Matt like the fact that he's going into his
second year here as the guy at LSU in the
same system. There were a couple of moments last year
where second half of the A and M game, the
Alabama game as a whole. I'm not in that building,
so I can't speak authoritatively to it, but you feel
a little bit like, Hey, the newness of this moment
and the weight of this moment, and all of those
things combined, all the all the unquantifiables were probably pretty
heavy for a first year starting quarterback that's waited his turn.
It's not going to be so heavy yet. Again, like,
I think it's gonna lead to more composure in those
moments where they're playing texast A and m at home
and it's got playoff stakes. So they're playing Alabama November,
it's got playoff stakes, like, it won't be that same
level of weight. So I think what excites me the
most in addition to him having more help with the
run game and him just you know, getting better at
all those things that you get better after starting a
full year in the SEC, is the composure part of it,
the mental side of it, and where when I walk
into a pseudo playoff game in the month of what
I just said in November October, that's not going to
feel as new. It's going to be more familiar and
it'll be more well equipped to handle it, which I
think is a massive differentiating factor even if he wasn't
going into uh, you know, his second year at LSU.
Speaker 4: JD Can LSU lose the Clemson game and still be
the team you think they can be?
Speaker 9: I think they can. I'll say I would. I am
committed to LSU right now I would say we're engaged
when it comes to the national title prediction. I don't
think I would call off the wedding for myself and
the good folks out there in in Tigertown if that's
been pin yet, but I would start to, you know,
start talking to my family, Hey, do we make the
right decision?
Speaker 3: Hey?
Speaker 9: Am I Am I crazy for going.
Speaker 3: Through with this?
Speaker 4: Hey?
Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
Speaker 9: Like, I think the biggest concern for me would be
what do they look like upfront? Because how good Clemson
is on the defensive line, we all know it's gonna
be a really good limus test to find out what
you have with the new pieces on the offensive line
for LSU, which is obviously gonna be one of the
key ingredients to win in the whole thing. One thing
I will say that maybe is getting a little bit
lost in the staus right now as we're breaking down
the new era of college football and twelve team playoffs.
I think, what it takes to win a national championship,
but what it takes to predictionle win a national championship
has gotten substantially more difficult because it used to be
regular season conference title game. Maybe you lose the conference
title game in the SEC back door your way to
a four team playoff get hot. When two games you're good.
Now it's like, hey, what did you do from September
to November in terms of evolving, Like at Ohio State,
did you play your basketball in December? Did you like
did you get the right draw from the college football
playoff run? So it's a long window way to say,
I'd be a little bit uneasy, but I think with
the allowance now teams to have to be different from
September and November and for that to matter in the
context of win a national championship, I wouldn't be totally out,
but yeah I would. I would start to hit up
the groomsman group chat and be a little fun easy.
Speaker 3: When you went to SEC Media Days, was did you
leave SEC Media Days did anything hit you? Did anything
stick out to you that made you change an opinion
on any team or player, Anything that you thought beforehand
or whether it was an eyeball test, was seeing DJ
Lagway or anybody like that, or what a coach said.
Was there anything that you walked away after that week
that was that gave you an opinion that was different
went before you walked in.
Speaker 9: You know, I think there's two thoughts. One is everything
that I see on YouTube when I go back and
watch John Mateer highlights or John Mateer full game condensed
Washington State highlights. I'm like, oh, that that swag that
he has, and it's a funny thing to say. I
don't know if people are still saying swag, but in
my generation, all real, like all verifiable factor, all that
very much so there, so I was like, cool, check
that box. I am that much more in on a
on a one jolmeterier. Second thing that I thought was
interesting just the way that Kaitlin de Board presented himself
and the questions that he got about Alabama thought was
really interesting. Obviously, like everyone's gonna talk about the quarterback
battle and who's gonna be the guy there. But outside
of that, there wasn't a lot of talk around Alabama's
roster after only winning nine games last year. It wasn't like, man,
you have what you need. It was tim answering questions,
saying we got to get better at all the cliche
things like the growth, the consistency, the maturity or whatever
it ends up looking, you know, being whatever word he said,
and that stuck out to me because I think that
gets missed about Alabama. I think they have the talent
to go compete for the SEC, and I think they'll
be a playoff team. It's just all those all those
other unquantifiables that they're clearly drilled in on and they
understand they have to get better at h to get
over the humps. So answer question pre act you media
days liked Alabama post me today as the lungs resident
with it, I'm like, I think they're a playoff team
and degree to why I have him at twelve.
Speaker 5: JD.
Speaker 4: I want to ask you maybe about one more player,
because I want to ask you about John Matier, but
you answered it there. He's got like this perfect combination
of the guy sitting to the left of me in
Baker Mayfield. I can't wait to see how it plays
out in Norman. But hey, I know, I know you
being you know where you're located doing the show every day,
where you do like you get a lot of probably
Diego Pavia like content or maybe you know, you get
stories like I've only covered like I think one of
his games that was the first time I had a
chance and he came in our serious XM room and
we had him for like fifteen minutes. He threw an
F bomb and two S words out there in the
first thirty seconds and the best way possible, Like I
was fired up, ready to go. I'm like, I will
follow you into the fire and we'll figure out how
to put it out later. Like I know, Vanderbilt's not
gonna win eleven games or whatever, but he brings an
excitement to Vanderbilt that Jay Cutler, even bad body language
Jay Cutler couldn't bring. Like nobody's brought that kind of
excitement to Vanderbilt.
Speaker 5: And I love that guy.
Speaker 4: I know you have to kind of appreciate what he's
done for Nashville and actually making Vanderbilt kind of cool
in the city.
Speaker 9: He just he's so fun, isn't he. Like I'm sure
he's a good time on Broadway, but I mean just
in general talking to like, he's just a fun individual.
I'm glad you mentioned that he stopped my R table too,
and like within the first thirty seconds, a couple you know,
exploited it in there, Like I'm kind of looking at
the side, I'm like, are you where do you what's
your role?
Speaker 5: You have to like ask.
Speaker 9: Are you nervous? Like are yeah? Like are you supposed
to just say you were the lifeguard on duty here?
Speaker 3: How does this work?
Speaker 9: So that was hilarious. I'm glad you brought that up.
But I think Washington diego Papa last year and then
like you mentioned, getting to be around him a media days,
isn't he just like exactly the dose of rash, bold,
borderline arrogance that Vanderbilt has always needed, like when you're
when you're like the you know, for lack of a
better metaphor, like the whipy tail on the playground that
Vanderbilt had been for the better part of the last
few years, Like you kind of need to go throw
a punch at the bully at some point, you kind
of need to like have a little bravado to you.
And I just love so much the way he's changed
the steel around Vanderbilt football and the way that I
think Vanderbilt football used themselves, Like I think everything he
said was probably a touch a touch optimist stick around.
You know, I want to win the heis than I
want to win a national championship. I came back for that,
and I'm like, have more power to you, like let's go.
But the fact that that's even being said in the
Vanderbilt locker room, I would, I would that money that
hasn't been set out loud in the Vanderbilt lockers in
the last decade. It was the conviction of a Diego Pavias.
So the belief that I think he instilled in his teammates,
I'm I'm really excited to see how scrappy they are
again this year because there they're gonna be a fun
team to watch.
Speaker 4: Are there is j D Bchael good enough to join us.
Check out his show The Hard Count there on on three.
That's eleven am Eastern Time Tuesdays and Thursday's JD. We
always appreciate the time and look forward to our next conversation.
Speaker 9: Appreciate y'all man, have a great one all are.
Speaker 5: You as well?
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