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Speaker 1: You're listening to the Paranormal UK Radio Network, the best

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in paranormal talk radio in the UK and around the world.

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Speaker 2: There are more than one thousand paranormal events reported around

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the world every month. Most of them can be explained

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as natural phenomenon, but about ten percent cannot. UFOs, ghosts, cryptids, monsters, coincidences,

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abductions and remote viewing, Mothman, dog Man, Bigfoot and the

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Space Brothers, mysterious wounds, weeping statues, miracles on high and

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voices beyond the grain. All these things and more are

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revealed every week on Mac Maloney's Military X Files. So

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join Mac and the rest of the game one one

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Switchy club Susan Kay and Uncle Lal Brandy X an

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Aged X as they delve into the ultimate mysteries of

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time and space. This is Mac Maloney's Military X Files.

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Speaker 3: And now here Mac Wow, Wow Wow, Here we are again.

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Welcome he We went to Mac Maloney's Military Stas show

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here on the Distant thundet Or Radio network. This is

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Mac Maloney. We're a what a show we have a

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few times. We're broadcasting live on a stop at Galley Restaurant,

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fifty five Water Street, New reput mats, great seafood, great hamburgers,

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and a great steak and cheese. Sammy. We have someone

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to testify to that later on this show. Once can

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we have I had to show for you tonight, but

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let me first introduce the members of the Posse Girls

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and Always here. You've been feeling I don't want to

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say you've been feeling him for a week, but you've

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sensed his vibe for seven rights I wish, so get

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yourself so suit yourself down, start fanning yourself, hit your

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big box of Kleenics, your big box of wipes. You

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squeegee Andelou because he's here, the very famous Auan one.

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Speaker 4: Hey, you don't need a lube when I'm around. Baby,

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Hello everybody, Hello, ladies, what Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 3: Glad to be here? I love the new open, new

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opening being called what's samartha Susan Empire of the Sun.

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Speaker 4: The language police there is at already what happened? Glad

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to be here? Mac is Always and it's gonna be

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a fun show, that's for sure. It's got to be

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wide open, hilarious.

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Speaker 3: Okay, did you get a memo in there? The way

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you feel?

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Speaker 4: It's the way I feel. It's the vibe. Do you

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feel my vibe?

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Speaker 3: Everybody? Well, now there's two vibes. How many other vibes

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on there? You know I'm I'm smoking. I'm like Brad Marshan,

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Well there's three anyway.

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Speaker 4: I'm setting I'll be setting a record.

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Speaker 3: Thank you one one for joining us tonight.

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Speaker 4: We love Brad, don't we?

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Speaker 3: We used to?

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Speaker 4: Well, you can't hate the guy now.

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Speaker 3: By talk about Bron Manshan who played for the Bruins

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for a long long time. They really didn't do anything.

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He goes to Florida and now he's in the middle

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of the Stanley Cup.

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Speaker 5: FI.

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Speaker 4: How many times does that happen when somebody leaves the

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Bruins and all of a sudden there was a superstar.

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Speaker 3: Well you know that's how it goes. Anyway, Also with

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us in our mobile studio here at the Stopping Galley,

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as a producer, engineer, bee keeper, I guess.

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Speaker 6: That's a change. Wow, I was. I was a mass murderer.

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Now I'm a bee keeper.

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Speaker 3: Only because one of them got Mike the other day

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and I didn't know it until I was on eighty

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miles an odd on the turnpike. So you turned around

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and brought it home, right, Yes, I did, of course

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I did. And a little uh had a little A

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on it, so I knew it was Ugies, it had

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a brand. Yeah, So uh, how's things were you there?

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Speaker 7: Now?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Just great? Can't beat it.

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Speaker 6: You know, it's been fifty seven degrees for the past

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Speaker 3: Yeah, rainy, cold, windy. It really was like we're in

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England ever since one ever since I came by.

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Speaker 4: We'd been English, well, thirteen weekends in a row with

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rain on Saturday, with rain on Saturday. Yeah, not to

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mention rain during the middle of the week too.

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Speaker 6: Right, right, and we're having another rainy weekend coming out,

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so here it comes. Yeah, yeah, so it's going to

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be fourteen right anyway. Yep. So yeah, that's what's well.

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Thank you one one for bringing the atmosphere disturbations. Also

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with US is international correspondent down there in my sister's tank,

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West Virginia Switchblade, Steve Ward switchy, Did you mean.

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Speaker 5: To say the very famous switch flake?

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Speaker 3: I guess I did. Yes, right, Get right on that

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microphone while you're there, jump, Get right on that baby,

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Get right on that microphone. But then it's an ice

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cream or something.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't look like vanilla ice cream.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right? So, uh, Switchy. Today we had a

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little communication breakdown because when I speak texts the switch

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for some reason, instead of saying hey, switchy, it says

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hey sweetie, And so inter paining the acid is to

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change thy words at the top of a text. You know.

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Speaker 5: I responded and called him sugar plumb.

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Speaker 3: There we go, see see what happens, you know, And

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then it went all there from that point to me

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telling him, don't worry. There's a cat lady out there

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for you somewhere. Switch. Don't worry. I'll give up. Hope.

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good thing. We don't work for the u N, the

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u N, the u N, you know, United Nations.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's still around.

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Speaker 5: What's going on with that communication breakdown?

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Speaker 7: There?

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Speaker 3: At least they be doing something also with us as

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our international security senior also with us as our senior

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international security chief. Willie Club, you got that.

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Speaker 5: Right, the very famous Willy Club.

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Speaker 3: No, hey, come down, So how are you there? Club?

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Speaker 8: I'll tell you I'm excellent.

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Speaker 9: I really want to have a lot of issues with

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this time of year, with the allergies.

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Speaker 8: As you can hear, it's brutal.

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Speaker 9: But you know the good thing about the rain is

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that it puts a lot of that stuff down the drain.

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to rain. I look so forward to We had four

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inches the other night. Hang on, right, yeah, so anyways, Yeah,

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I'm doing just the way I want to be.

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Speaker 3: Good, just the way you want to be. That's good.

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He doesn't look priestley. Is it just me or no?

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Speaker 8: I wanted to look more normal?

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Speaker 3: No? Normal? Yes, okay, that's good. Well, mission accomplished.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he doesn't look like the pope who was about

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to get undressed.

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, you know what, never mind, never mind. You

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see that pope. You see they get a picture of

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him at a Chicago White Sox game in two thousand

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and four. Yeah, when they were in the I guess

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they were in the playoffs in one game? Is something

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he was there? Didn't do them much good then? On? No,

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also with us is a good friend down there in

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North Carolina, Susan, Kay, how are you? I was going

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to say America's sweetheart, but I think you're better than

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that the universe sweetheart. How are you okay? What's going

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Speaker 10: At the top better than when I'm here with you?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Wow? Okay? What's going on at the top of

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that tower you have behind you? Is there any Is

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there an animal up there sleeping? A cat is sleeping? Wow?

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Well the chance, Thank you, Susan.

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Speaker 10: There's another one.

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Speaker 3: Look at this?

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Speaker 4: Why wow, it's a regular cat house.

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Speaker 3: Had that set up?

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Speaker 10: I've taught Switch everything he knows about. I always told

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him once you have to What's I mean?

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Speaker 5: Come on?

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Speaker 3: Wow? Okay? What happened to you?

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Speaker 4: When Bill Haley and the comments did the song Go

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Cat Go, they were thinking of you.

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Speaker 3: You too?

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Speaker 10: If I may say, Kim, I'm digging the James Dean hairstyle.

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Speaker 2: One.

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Speaker 3: Oh we got to get to Kim. Yeah he's too.

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But let's talk for to a good friend up there

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in Wisconsin. We didn't change her duo. I don't think

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so is Brandy X Brandy? How are you?

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Speaker 7: I am great to be here. I'm so happy that

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one one's back.

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Speaker 3: Oh good, she's got a box?

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Speaker 4: Is that a full box? We heard you're gonna need it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, wow, okay, if you need it out there, imagine

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what we need.

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Speaker 4: Do you have a kringle handy? Because I need a slice?

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Wicked bat?

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Speaker 7: I had a slice today, did.

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Speaker 3: You I did?

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Speaker 4: What type of what type of kringle did you have?

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Speaker 7: It was cream cheese and cherry pieces of cherry?

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Speaker 3: Saw that move. Explain what a kringle is please for

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us that we don't know.

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Speaker 7: Is a very light and flaky Danish pastry that it's

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it's big, and it's got some kind of fruit, like

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a fruit sauce in it kind of and may or

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may not have cream cheese and then has icing on

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Speaker 10: Slice.

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it's arranged like in a circle.

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Speaker 3: It's like like a coffee.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a there's a big hole in the middle

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and you just slice a piece and then you slice

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another piece and then you say, okay, just one more piece.

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and you say, what happened? I cringle more because you're

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addicted to it. And that's what happens to me every

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time I get a kringle. Can you get them around here?

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and you got to get a mail order. They they

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do ship them frozen, right, yeah, all right, there we go,

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nice delivery stuff.

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Speaker 3: Right, we'll get one. We'll get one shipped here. We'll

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eat it on the air one night and we'll give

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Speaker 4: Didn't Ratings, didn't Barbara when she was in town drinkles

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Speaker 3: Me maybe it's just simmy for you anyway, that's another show.

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Thank you for being with us tonight, Brindy. We appreciate it.

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Speaker 7: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: No, also with us what all the hobbub is about?

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on with that was a good friend up there and Edmonton,

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Canada near the not Paul, Jim, Shay Kim, how are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing fantastic, looking good and everywhere. It's a fantastic

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day in Edmonton except for that whatever last night when

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we won't talk about it. But no, we're kind of

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on fire though. That's you smoke everywhere.

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Speaker 3: It's like good or down here too.

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Speaker 1: Do you guys get remnants?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, a lot of I was feeling it yesterday,

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Speaker 1: Of it's like I don't know. Like I said, go

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to Thailand, Guys, go to Thailand.

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Speaker 3: Thailand, Kim. They were out of the room when we

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discussed that. Oh really, okay, all the countries depicted. That's

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not so anyway, Kim. We're just talking a little bit

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off here in on here about the Edmonton oil is.

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We don't want to date the show. But theyd knee

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deep in the Stanley Cup playoffs, very exciting team. The

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problem is that the team they're playing is also very exciting,

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and the Florida Panthers, and they're just a good team.

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It's weird they are in Florida. I always think, don't

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their ice melt all the time? But no one really

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Speaker 4: They don't practice in the summertime. Can't do it.

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Speaker 3: But uh, it's a good series. But I wish Edmonton would. Yeah,

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go Edmonton. We'll see what happens.

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Speaker 4: It ain't over till it's over.

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And we have a number of different reports and stuff

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like that tonight. No bits tonight, by the way, Willie,

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I'm so I just want to let.

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Speaker 4: You know, just because he's trivia.

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Speaker 3: I know that makes him feel better. I like ta

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pinch myself all night. Now that's all right, just make

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sure you do it above the table. I won't be

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like switch. I said two interesting things today though. First

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of all, it's kind of funny because when I was

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growing up, I think everyone has felt this way. It

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would be funny we were will I be when they

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say they've found alien life, right, you always think it's

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going to be some big announcement or whatever. So there's

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a thing on you know, my news feet today is

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by Popular Mechanics, and then it transferred you over to

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like the British Journal of Astrologists. I'm not astrology but astronomy,

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and they have found a planet one hundred and twenty

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four light years from Earth that fits all the profiles

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of what they consider would be a habitable planet. And

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the way they do it is when the sun when

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when this planet is by its star, James Webb telescope

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zooms in on it and they're able to see what

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elements are in their atmosphere. And what's smart about them

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is they don't look for two hundred and six billion elements.

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essential to have it being a habitable planet. And it

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hit all four really and so now you know it

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takes studies, blah blah blah blah. But this one guy said,

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if there was ever this is the closest we've ever

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come to declaring up planet that we think is habitable.

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this will turn out to be something.

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Speaker 8: But is that the one? It's a trillion miles away?

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, well one hundred and twenty four light years away,

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whatever that is.

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Speaker 9: Miles, I thank you. We might not get there soon.

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Speaker 3: See, that's the thing. And what's happening out there, that's

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another weird thing is you have to think about it?

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Is that? So that's that's one hundred and twenty four

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light years away, So that means that what is happening

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there now happened one hundred and twenty four years ago,

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do you know what I mean? Yeah, And it's just

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taken that light that long to get to us. So

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you know who you know who knows? And there's there's

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stars out there that are like tens of thousands of

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light years away from us, and the light left before

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the dinosaurs runner, right, you know, so it's kind of

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it's it's it's just so fast to imagine. But the

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James would telescope. You gotta admit, man, it's cool. It

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can do stuff like that, is you know, very kind

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of technologically advanced, you know. So anyway, and then the

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other thing I saw today, and this might be familiar

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to a lot of our listeners, is that I guess

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the Wall Street Journal did some kind of a report

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on UFOs. Al do you watch do you read the

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Wall Street Journal? Unfortunately I missed just that issue. I

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missed that.

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Speaker 4: Probably someone stole it from your own. I used to

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read it, but now it's like what two dollars a copy? Yeah, yeah,

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it's crazy. Anyway, they did, they did a report, and

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what said was that they've found out this has been

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floating around for years that in the early fifties that

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the Pentagon, with the CIA self, actually planted false UFO

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stories in the media and dispersed them to cover up

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their top secret flights of different airplanes, mostly in southern

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California of course, right, and they would distribute pictures of

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what they thought they're I don't know, they're probably testing

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you two's maybe at the time early fifties who knows what,

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and said, this is a UFO. How many people have

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seen this, you know? And they knew then that they

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could be spotted if people were looking at them but

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thinking that they UFOs, And then the stories would appear

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in the paper and they would have a way to

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measure how high it could fly, how fast you could

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by how many people are reporting UFOs. They also reported

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that for years, and this is funny, I've never heard

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of this, but for years, anyone are alive of people

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coming into the Air Force were given the secret hazing

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thing which they were shown a file may to sign

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a non disclosure agreement, and then the file said that

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there was the proof that US Air Force were reverse

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engineering alien craft that were found around the world, and

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they figured that tens of thousands of people believe this,

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never talked about it, and it was all a hoax,

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you know, once again to cover up just to screw

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with people hazing. It just seems that it's a long

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time to keep something like that secret. But we used

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to have veterans on the show all the time that

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would say I would love to say what I know,

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but I can't because I've signed this NDO and I

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don't want my nda, I don't want my benefits to

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be screwed with. So they were always in a rock

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and a hot place. We used to say, why don't

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you give amnesty to all these people. Don't let them

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feel threatened they lose their benefits. Have them come out

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and just tell everyone what they saw. And that would

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add to a lot to the UFO kind of arsenal

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of what you want to investigate. But now it turns

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out probably a lot of those guys are talking about

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something that was a hoax.

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Speaker 9: It sounds like a death bed, you know, situation where

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they're now going to step up and talk because they

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got nothing to lose.

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Speaker 3: But if it's all, if it's all talk about, you

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know that they saw this flying sauce, which we're going

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to talk about later on Kim, is that supposedly, you know,

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we had reverse engineered and so on and so forth,

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and they believed it and they were I mean, there

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were true soldiers because they didn't reveal it. But you

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know what a coming way to treat your troops in

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a way, you know. So anyway, those are the two stories.

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They are in the Wall Street Journal today that said,

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when don't we ow, And I should apologize now very

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quickly for Apple podcasts, which I'm sure a lot of

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people listen to us on I know they do. Last

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week's show started out with an ad for I can't

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believe this, an ad for a mental health call in

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session where you can fill doctors in to discuss your

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mental health. Perfect, okay, and then a PSA from the

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State of New Hampshire to buckle up what yes, like

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they can wow wow. And so I'm sorry if the

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show starts off like that. There's nothing we can do

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about it. Apple told us two years ago, they said,

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either you run your own ads, give them to us

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and we take a vig of a ten percent. In

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other words, get your own ads, or we're just going

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to put our ads in your free platforming. And they

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just put them in without any kind of editing. They

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put them in the beginning, they sometimes put in the end,

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but then they'll just stick them in them the little

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conversations and stuff. It's really in a conversation, yeah, really annoying,

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and the not all in English, which is also weird.

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And I don't know, but there's nothing we can do

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about it. So I apologize, right, So why don't we

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do this though, Why don't we take a quickly now

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The sageant Pepper of ads. Well, actually, you know when

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the Beatles did like the White Album and then they

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said they should have just done one album instead of two.

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That's why I feel about that. However, people think it's

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a joke, so which makes it even funny. You're looking

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that was filler or crap was that number nine. I

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mean I didn't get that.

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Speaker 4: But well, other than that, I thought it was the

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problem with the White Album is that they didn't all

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play together in the same studio at the same time. Right,

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they're all taking powders to going off on a off

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George Harrison quit then came back. Ringo was absent without leave.

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Sometimes it's like, come on, Beatles.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh well that's what happened. Stones would never do that. No, No,

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it is to hide out in a mansion in France

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with like two months and they don't even go outside, right.

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Speaker 4: And just be high for days and then just record

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like five days in a row and then uh and

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then they come up with the exiles on main Street.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, So thank you one one for joining us tonight.

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One You're welcome, glad to be here. Also with us

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is uh Al the engineer? Are they really here? Am

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I really here? He's sitting away from us tonight for

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some reason. There's something we don't know. You know, I'm

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just trying to make it not crowded. And you you

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always say you don't like the way the three of

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us look like the Three Stooges in a row. So

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I'm kind of like, I'm taking Curly and I'm moving

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off to the side.

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Speaker 5: Want a shell.

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Speaker 4: I was watching the Three Stooges marathon. Well, it's on YouTube.

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It's available for anybody, and it's like four continuous hours,

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which it is all Curly from nineteen thirty six to

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nineteen thirty nine.

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Speaker 3: Early Curly. Yeah, Early Curly the best.

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Speaker 4: It sounds like I've never seen it before, but it's funny.

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Speaker 3: It's so funny.

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Speaker 4: Some episodes am going, I lean, I don't remember seeing

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that episode. Really, I thought you see them all a

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dozen times.

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Speaker 3: And she just fascinated. I still don't get it, Yeah,

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no one, Yeah, you really going to kind of get

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it to get it.

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Speaker 4: You don't get the two fingers in the eye pick

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pick out two.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Right.

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Speaker 5: As a kid, I was watching The Three Stooges one

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time and it was a bit where Curly goes and

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he's drinking milk out of the caps dish and I

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start cracking up and my dad looks at me like

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I'm retarded hersel Oh this is my son. Yeah, the

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Three Stooges. I'm better just him.

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Speaker 3: Look, let me just ask you a question though. Okay,

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first of all, they were almost one hundred years old.

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They started those in like thirty one maybe, I mean.

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And the writing is amazing, it's just yeah, it's filmed

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vaudeville basically is what it is, but just the way

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they did it and the sound effects just add so

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much to it. And just Curly is just so crazy.

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He's just he's he's never not doing something, you know,

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and some stuff he's doing when he's when they try

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00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:35,119
to make you know, make them posh, they're like homeless

473
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,960
and they're always are like it's some ball or something.

474
00:25:38,519 --> 00:25:40,880
He has a spring on him. He's dancing and he's

475
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,599
springing up. It's freaking hilarious. And he did all of

476
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,160
his own stems and stuff like that.

477
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 5: You know what about the bits where they they're always

478
00:25:49,079 --> 00:25:52,880
being served soup and there's like clams.

479
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,279
Speaker 3: Oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah, how many times?

480
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:56,839
Yeah yeah?

481
00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,319
Speaker 4: And then Curly is feeding an oyster Cracker.

482
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:07,039
Speaker 3: To we have a question from uh, the female plot

483
00:26:07,079 --> 00:26:11,799
of our audience watched this, she was okay, thanks to curious.

484
00:26:12,519 --> 00:26:19,039
Speaker 10: Was the Three Stooges scripted or is that all whatever?

485
00:26:19,079 --> 00:26:20,319
You call it free.

486
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 3: Form or I think they hit beer script beer scripts.

487
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,640
I mean a lot of them are just kind of stage,

488
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,799
you know, in someone's office or something like that, and

489
00:26:28,839 --> 00:26:30,480
they and they do the I think they just are

490
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,079
we're going to do this, and you do this bit.

491
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,559
Speaker 4: And I thought I read something it was online. I

492
00:26:34,559 --> 00:26:37,359
don't know if it was somebody that it might have

493
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,279
been an excerpt from the book.

494
00:26:39,039 --> 00:26:40,599
Speaker 3: That Moe's daughter wrote.

495
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,519
Speaker 4: Oh yes, right, yeah, And I think it's mostly scripted,

496
00:26:43,559 --> 00:26:45,440
but they filled in the blanks when there was like

497
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,240
parts of the scene where it something didn't fit or

498
00:26:49,319 --> 00:26:53,240
something there wasn't a good transition to the next scene,

499
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,519
and they're they were just on the fly, fill in

500
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the blank.

501
00:26:56,759 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

502
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Speaker 6: I think they were given a rough outline of what

503
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,559
they wanted right, and then when they got to a

504
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,440
point either it wasn't working or they decided they could

505
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,680
do it better, they would improvise, and they just made

506
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,599
they went crazy. But if you watch the Marx Brothers

507
00:27:14,079 --> 00:27:16,920
l even Laarlen Hardy. You know some of the old

508
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,079
comedy is just I can watch.

509
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 3: That all day.

510
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: Carol Burnett Show.

511
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,799
Speaker 3: What Carol Burnett Show? They still show that up there?

512
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:30,200
And can it my favorite show? Oh my goodness? Really yeah?

513
00:27:30,279 --> 00:27:33,359
Well I and we'll have to look into Kilm's resume

514
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:33,960
a little more.

515
00:27:34,319 --> 00:27:37,519
Speaker 4: So let me like the show Dorist Day and Dinah Show.

516
00:27:37,559 --> 00:27:40,559
Speaker 3: That's my speed. Oh my go dodn't even know who

517
00:27:40,559 --> 00:27:46,079
I'm talking. What happened here? Let me to do someone else?

518
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,440
So sweets here and club is here? Club Willie Club,

519
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:51,839
Willie Club. Everything's good?

520
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,799
Speaker 9: Can I say, you know you talk about the Three Stooges.

521
00:27:55,519 --> 00:27:58,160
If I watched four hours of the Three Stooges, I

522
00:27:58,279 --> 00:27:59,279
have to go to therapy.

523
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 3: That is therapy. No, really, you don't like the Three Stooges.

524
00:28:06,759 --> 00:28:08,519
Speaker 8: If I was on drugs or something like.

525
00:28:08,519 --> 00:28:12,599
Speaker 3: That, well there you go. There is a point. Then

526
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:17,640
make my case. Pick two, pick two. If people know

527
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,400
what that means, it's funny. Pick two. H Thank you

528
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,000
for wially Cup, for joining us. Susan Kay, you asked

529
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:29,039
a question earlier, we answered it. How are you I'm

530
00:28:29,079 --> 00:28:29,880
doing excellent?

531
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 10: Thank you so much for having me. It's so nice

532
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,200
to be here amongst all of you beautiful people.

533
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:38,799
Speaker 3: Wow. How the Hushes are Rudy Tutti and the other one.

534
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 10: Yeah, Rudy's not doing so good?

535
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:48,119
Speaker 3: What happened ever since we did that wikibe night? Man?

536
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:53,440
He's been hoofed up? Can we blame now that night?

537
00:28:53,599 --> 00:28:55,279
Speaker 10: It has not been can?

538
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 3: How does Al get him? Will we blame Al for that?

539
00:28:58,759 --> 00:29:01,119
What did hell do? Stage your pictures? Him?

540
00:29:01,559 --> 00:29:01,599
Speaker 4: So?

541
00:29:02,759 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 10: Al sent me Al? Thank you so much? Al sent

542
00:29:05,519 --> 00:29:06,799
me some honey.

543
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 3: Oh wow, wow, I'll go for you. I know how

544
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,279
valuable and how painful that must have been for him

545
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,559
in a good way. I mean in a good way.

546
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:23,359
Speaker 6: It's like odding go sent us Christmas presents? Yes, you know,

547
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,119
she sent us stuff. She's always been very very you know,

548
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,440
nice about stuff. And you know, like I was down

549
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,440
to the last couple of jars and I'm like, well,

550
00:29:34,359 --> 00:29:36,680
so Friday Friday, I was like, I was out in

551
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,920
the garage and I found a box just about the

552
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,759
right size to shove a two pound bottle in, wrapped

553
00:29:43,799 --> 00:29:45,400
it all up, and then I texted her and said

554
00:29:45,599 --> 00:29:48,440
send me your you know spelling, your name and your

555
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,799
address please and she got back to me pretty quick,

556
00:29:51,799 --> 00:29:54,880
and so I got into the post office a like

557
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,839
nine eight in the morning and she got it yesterday.

558
00:29:59,039 --> 00:30:02,319
Speaker 3: Wow, not that yes today. Yeah. Have you tried it?

559
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:04,799
Speaker 10: Oh my gosh, it's delicious.

560
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:05,559
Speaker 3: It really is.

561
00:30:06,039 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 10: Unlike even when you buy like if you go so

562
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,799
we have a local marketplace.

563
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, like a country market.

564
00:30:14,559 --> 00:30:18,039
Speaker 10: Yeah, problems when you buy it from there, it's different.

565
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, completely, Yeah, I agree.

566
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 6: It all depends on what they what the bees got into,

567
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,079
like a lot of what around us, A lot of

568
00:30:26,079 --> 00:30:29,559
beech roses, and you know, there's not much else, so

569
00:30:29,839 --> 00:30:30,279
you have to.

570
00:30:31,359 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 3: There's a lot of weed play. It's not like this stuff.

571
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,920
Well clover, we'll see what. There's not a lot of

572
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:38,920
clover buy us. I mean.

573
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 6: The problem we have on the island is they'll go

574
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,599
out in a five mile radius around their hive. Well,

575
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:51,799
if you go eight houses to the yeah, one way,

576
00:30:51,839 --> 00:30:55,359
it's open ocean. If you go in the opposite direction,

577
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,720
twelve or fourteen houses, there's the river, which they won't

578
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,599
cross us. So there's only the actual island itself. So

579
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,079
there's a they have a very small forage area field

580
00:31:06,119 --> 00:31:08,920
of operations. Yeah, so well that's okay. I'm driving them

581
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,359
one by one of my cas who can up to

582
00:31:13,279 --> 00:31:16,880
also thank you out. Also joining us up there in

583
00:31:17,279 --> 00:31:20,440
Wisconsin is Brandy X. Brandy, how are you?

584
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 7: I am fantastic and I am so excited. Everybody's here.

585
00:31:25,559 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 3: Everyone is here. Last week, you had a hat on.

586
00:31:29,799 --> 00:31:31,680
I did have a lot of calls about that hat.

587
00:31:33,519 --> 00:31:38,359
You know that's becoming Yeah, how do you get calls

588
00:31:38,359 --> 00:31:40,000
about her hat? Did you say that she had a

589
00:31:40,039 --> 00:31:41,359
hat on? Yes?

590
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,079
Speaker 4: They wanted to know what kind of happened to the

591
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:43,640
radio show.

592
00:31:44,559 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 3: Well, they see it, they see yeah, they know. I

593
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,920
already commented on her hair. That's we were setting up

594
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:56,160
because we're painting a visual picture of the audience. I

595
00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:01,160
told I'm a sucker for the long hair guy. Also,

596
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:02,480
oh sweat.

597
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,319
Speaker 4: Wow, look at that little guy. Is that a coffin

598
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:06,039
in back of him?

599
00:32:06,039 --> 00:32:06,559
Speaker 3: What is that?

600
00:32:06,559 --> 00:32:09,599
Speaker 5: That's just a kid, that's the one I rescued.

601
00:32:09,759 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 3: Get that. Yeah, yeah, he looks like he wants to

602
00:32:12,039 --> 00:32:12,880
sleep for his life.

603
00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:16,839
Speaker 10: He's still so tiny him sweat him?

604
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:18,119
Speaker 1: What's his name?

605
00:32:18,519 --> 00:32:21,319
Speaker 3: That's discuss all right? Okay, that's enough, that's enough. Okay,

606
00:32:21,319 --> 00:32:22,039
you're just doing this.

607
00:32:22,039 --> 00:32:26,039
Speaker 5: To make me, doesn't he just melt your art.

608
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,279
Speaker 3: It is cute. Switchy oh man. Once again, it's like

609
00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:35,599
I'm eating uh tofu like it's coming on my e.

610
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 5: I think you feelings.

611
00:32:38,039 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 3: That's well, he'll either go eat something or fall asleep.

612
00:32:41,319 --> 00:32:45,640
Take it from me, Randy, thanks for joining us. We

613
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:50,119
appreciate it. Yeah, it's gonna be fun now talking about

614
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:55,119
fun up there in Edmund Canon, Cana, Edmonton, Canada. Him shay,

615
00:32:55,960 --> 00:33:01,759
new hairdo, new hair do. He's got the what is that?

616
00:33:01,839 --> 00:33:04,920
Kind of like a pompador thing like kind of punkish too,

617
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,799
a little punkish.

618
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: A little punish, you know, you know whatever may come

619
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:09,799
from that generation.

620
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 3: Well, now you could play rockabilly.

621
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:16,759
Speaker 1: Actually it was kind of a yeah Cochrane.

622
00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:22,599
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, he's not Richard Dreyfus anymore. He's like, you know,

623
00:33:22,759 --> 00:33:26,319
the the second killer in a movie, right, not the

624
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:32,279
lead killer is accomplice. Beg your cab for joining us.

625
00:33:32,279 --> 00:33:33,880
We appreciate it.

626
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,519
Speaker 1: A Henchman, good to see everybody.

627
00:33:37,279 --> 00:33:39,279
Speaker 3: Is okay, Yeah, useful idiots.

628
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 5: Does he make it to the end of the movie

629
00:33:41,519 --> 00:33:44,799
or does he get no, he he gets it ready

630
00:33:44,799 --> 00:33:47,599
before the head bad guy gets it, so he's in

631
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:48,480
for most of the movie.

632
00:33:48,559 --> 00:33:52,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, multifunctional well rights itself.

633
00:33:52,559 --> 00:33:54,079
Speaker 5: Good salary.

634
00:33:54,119 --> 00:33:56,799
Speaker 3: Oh also, so, so we got a bunch of stuff

635
00:33:56,839 --> 00:34:00,359
that we're gonna talk about tonight. But club night off

636
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,480
here about this a couple of days ago. Now, chem

637
00:34:03,559 --> 00:34:07,640
trails are something that were seemed like they were pretty

638
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:12,079
big eight or nine years ago, eight or ten years ago.

639
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,039
Kim trails what people claim they see in the sky,

640
00:34:17,039 --> 00:34:21,639
which actually contrails from mostly from the airline, some of

641
00:34:21,639 --> 00:34:26,159
them from military planes, but the woman majority is from

642
00:34:26,679 --> 00:34:30,760
civilian airline. Is going across the country, flying anywhere above

643
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:35,119
thirty thousand feet, and the exhaust from the jet engines

644
00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:39,800
up at that altitude turns to ice crystals, and they

645
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,840
basically make those contrails which then can expand into you know,

646
00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:47,159
clouds and everything. It all depends on how cold it is,

647
00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:50,360
the time of year, blah blah blah. Well people see

648
00:34:50,519 --> 00:34:57,280
some people see these things as basically kind of defoliating us,

649
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:02,079
dropping chemicals on us that is doing something to the

650
00:35:02,119 --> 00:35:05,960
population of the country. Well, if it was turning everyone stupid,

651
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:11,400
I kind of. But but and they feel that this

652
00:35:11,559 --> 00:35:16,400
is something nefarious and we'll put it an into a

653
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,280
lot of it, I think because in the early days

654
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,599
of the show way way back. Let's get calls on

655
00:35:20,639 --> 00:35:22,280
it all the time, and I would argue with these

656
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,360
people that it was really kind of nonsense for many reasons.

657
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,320
Number one, well, let's just go through really quick. Number one.

658
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,599
Who you'd have to have one hundred or so planes

659
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:39,360
crisscrossing the country every day, day after day, dispensing this

660
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,679
poison on the country. Where do these hundred planes land,

661
00:35:43,199 --> 00:35:45,800
where do they take off from? How are they loaded?

662
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,079
Who loads the poison on? What about all the traffic

663
00:35:49,119 --> 00:35:52,960
controllers that work in the country, across the country. Okay,

664
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,719
there's a few thousand of them. Are they all in

665
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,760
on it? They see these things flying around up there?

666
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,440
No ID number? What are you doing? And so on

667
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,000
and so forth, that they just ignore them. If that's

668
00:36:03,039 --> 00:36:05,159
the case, none of these air traffic controls ever came

669
00:36:05,199 --> 00:36:08,719
forward and told the truth. Number two, how about the

670
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,880
pilots in these planes? Would they really be dropping poison

671
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,199
on maybe you know, their family members, their friends or whatever.

672
00:36:15,639 --> 00:36:18,480
You're Number three, Oh page for this Number four, what's

673
00:36:18,519 --> 00:36:21,000
the point of it? It can go on and on

674
00:36:21,079 --> 00:36:26,519
and on and on, and now, in the rational age

675
00:36:26,559 --> 00:36:29,800
we live in, it turns out dot dot dot and

676
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,159
we're going to turn it over the club.

677
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 9: Well, Marc, Unfortunately, we're in this new age of heightened

678
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,760
conspiracy theories and a lot of this stuff has come

679
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:46,800
into the surface again. Now, this whole ken trails theory,

680
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,519
you know, as you talked about, it's been disproved years ago.

681
00:36:50,639 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 8: You know, they aren't real.

682
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 9: But anyways, the AP this week report, along with some

683
00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:03,239
other agencies, that eight US states seek to outlaw chem

684
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:04,960
trails through legislation.

685
00:37:07,039 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 3: We're so proud, you know.

686
00:37:09,119 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 9: So Anyways, what we've got here is, you know, conspiracy

687
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:17,360
theorists erroneously believe that, and they have for years, that

688
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:22,639
the long lasting condensation trails left in the sky by

689
00:37:22,679 --> 00:37:27,400
these high flying aircraft are actually chem trails, consisting of

690
00:37:27,559 --> 00:37:38,800
chemicals or biological agents sprayed for nefarious purposes and undisclosed

691
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:44,440
to the public. Of course, the chief conspiracy theorist is

692
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:49,440
now in their RFK Junior. Allright, he's got right in

693
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,440
the middle of this thing. By he made a comment

694
00:37:51,519 --> 00:37:58,159
this week that DAPPA, which is the Defense Advanced Research Agency,

695
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:04,480
he claims they're deliberately injecting chemicals into our atmosphere laden

696
00:38:04,519 --> 00:38:08,960
with toxins, and that he's going to do everything he

697
00:38:09,079 --> 00:38:09,880
can to stop it.

698
00:38:10,039 --> 00:38:13,320
Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah, okay, so you know it's going again.

699
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,760
Speaker 9: Now some of the states involved, it's interesting. You know,

700
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:21,039
you've got states you wouldn't be surprised, you know, Louisiana

701
00:38:21,159 --> 00:38:25,119
and Florida and Mississippi, but you got New York and

702
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:29,079
Nevada and some other states. They are also looking to

703
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:36,840
pass some type of laws or legislations, bills and UH

704
00:38:37,079 --> 00:38:42,239
in particular Louisiana. Yes, it build UH does not include

705
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:48,239
penalties for violating, but it calls for further investigation and documentation.

706
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:49,119
Speaker 3: Wow.

707
00:38:49,599 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 9: Now what people are you know that don't believe in

708
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,559
this stuff. One of the things that we think that's

709
00:38:56,599 --> 00:39:00,320
coming to the surface again is their potential out of

710
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:06,559
behind these and some sphere that it could force the

711
00:39:06,599 --> 00:39:11,079
airlines to reroot flights. In other words, they're trying to

712
00:39:11,159 --> 00:39:14,440
change everything. Now the government, well, now, if you want

713
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,599
to re rout flights that you don't like over your state,

714
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,360
you know, just come up here and pass some kind

715
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:24,519
of a bill that you're concerned that there's these chemtrails.

716
00:39:25,599 --> 00:39:29,559
And they want to challenge the locations of airports. So

717
00:39:29,679 --> 00:39:32,400
now this would give them an opening to say geez,

718
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,239
you know that airport is right next to my house.

719
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,639
I think because of the chemtrail thing, we are to

720
00:39:37,679 --> 00:39:41,480
get that moved out of there. One also looking to

721
00:39:41,599 --> 00:39:43,840
bring legal action against carriers.

722
00:39:44,199 --> 00:39:47,159
Speaker 3: What is the matter with people? What is meanly? What

723
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:48,079
is the matter with.

724
00:39:48,159 --> 00:39:50,039
Speaker 8: People now in that age?

725
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,679
Speaker 9: And so for whatever is in the water, this is

726
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,000
what we have to live up with. But anyways, there

727
00:39:57,039 --> 00:40:00,639
are some exceptions that we should talk about briefly. One

728
00:40:00,679 --> 00:40:03,360
of the of course, back in nineteen sixty two to

729
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,960
nineteen eighty five, we used to have cloud seating. Okay,

730
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,360
they still have it today, but back at that time

731
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,000
there was one that was by the government that was

732
00:40:14,039 --> 00:40:18,719
called Project Storm Fury, And what they did is they

733
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:25,920
conducted experiments to release silver iodide compound right into the atmosphere,

734
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:31,320
basically into a belt of maximum winds. The idea was

735
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,880
to reduce the strongest winds that way, So they tried that,

736
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:42,000
but again they stopped that back in the early eighties. Now,

737
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:46,440
cloud seating still occurs in some western states today, yep.

738
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,480
But again it's got nothing to do with all of

739
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:56,199
these chemicals. It's really designed to induce rain or snowfall. Now,

740
00:40:56,519 --> 00:40:59,320
there was a bad area or bad time. As we

741
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:03,519
know during the Korean and Vietnam Wars that our government

742
00:41:03,639 --> 00:41:08,880
dropped nineteen million gallons of chemicals, including agent orange, on

743
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,639
our enemies to defist.

744
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, defa.

745
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,599
Speaker 9: And we all know. I have a family member who's

746
00:41:15,119 --> 00:41:19,239
been suffering from that his service. But that seemed to

747
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,280
end it, you know, when all of that happened, that

748
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,440
that drew the line of the sand, and they all

749
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:30,400
of this business of you know, up in the atmosphere

750
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:35,280
stop other than just a cloud seating. So there's all

751
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,079
this misinformation, and of course people are in a panic

752
00:41:38,159 --> 00:41:40,960
now about looking up in the skies. Remember a year

753
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,800
ago all this crap with the drones night Sure, yep,

754
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:48,000
So everyone's on heightened alert, you might say about that.

755
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:55,639
But anyways, there's been a several studies conducted by atmospherest chemicsts,

756
00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:03,920
chemists and geochemists that concluded working on atmosphere, they were

757
00:42:04,039 --> 00:42:09,719
working on atmosphere deposition of dust pollution clouds, and at

758
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:13,320
that time of their studies, they've concluded that all this

759
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:23,360
business about contrails chemtrails is paranoid fantasy, all right. In addition,

760
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:29,239
the EPA still analyzes jet fuel for strict impurity limits.

761
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:33,039
So these are things that are going on to check that.

762
00:42:33,599 --> 00:42:37,280
And of course we've got NOAH, which is the National

763
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:43,719
Osiographic and Atmospheric Administration. They've publicly denied undertaking any of this.

764
00:42:44,679 --> 00:42:48,000
So the problem here is we just have to get

765
00:42:48,119 --> 00:42:51,639
used to the fact that all these conspiracy things is

766
00:42:51,639 --> 00:42:56,000
starting to come back. Hopefully it won't be forever, but

767
00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:01,639
get used to more of this stuff. There's enough here

768
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,920
to you know, to throw this out the window.

769
00:43:06,039 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 3: Yep, yep, But we got to put up with this for.

770
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 9: A while and let the States go ahead and do

771
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,400
what they're going to do. And I just certainly hope

772
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,920
that that doesn't get them to have the power to

773
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:23,079
start shooting them down in flights and the airport to

774
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,519
be settled. So if that's their motive, then this is

775
00:43:26,559 --> 00:43:27,519
scary times.

776
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,400
Speaker 3: Yes, well it is scary times, but it's just like

777
00:43:30,679 --> 00:43:34,800
very very you know, they're going to legislate these things now,

778
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,599
right and wait a manu al show me a one

779
00:43:38,639 --> 00:43:42,000
move that's born. That's just that's oh yeah, right, yeah,

780
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,320
they're all going the same way, yeah, from Europe, yeah

781
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,639
to Chicago, was right, Oh that was ye. We're in

782
00:43:48,639 --> 00:43:50,960
the flight path right exactly. And I know that what

783
00:43:51,079 --> 00:43:55,559
happened was back in around two thy fourteen or so,

784
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,119
there was a shutdown of they had a government shutdown

785
00:44:00,079 --> 00:44:02,920
that a government shut down and you know what year

786
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:08,400
it was probably around it was before twenty fourteen, right, okay,

787
00:44:08,519 --> 00:44:11,199
remember that, and.

788
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,559
Speaker 4: The government shut down of what the airports now they

789
00:44:12,639 --> 00:44:14,559
shut down the government nuke Engrish.

790
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:17,679
Speaker 3: And all those guys. Yeah, right, and so people so

791
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:23,320
people said, well that means there would be no chemtrails today,

792
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:28,960
right because the government was and now and it was

793
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:33,199
like the exact same because they're airliners. They're airliners, okay,

794
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:39,960
not to you could not undertake a like the the

795
00:44:40,079 --> 00:44:46,400
logistics of secretly taking off these huge planes. Who makes

796
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,320
the chemical for them? You don't duponmit this one thing?

797
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,159
You know. Who loads the chemical onto the plane? Someone

798
00:44:53,199 --> 00:44:56,679
has to do it, you know, And who flies such planes?

799
00:44:57,519 --> 00:44:59,360
Would they be in fear of their lives? You know?

800
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,960
So on and so on. So uh, it's it's been disproving,

801
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,800
you know, I'm amazing, it's come back to tell you

802
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:11,000
the truth. But here we are. Wow, what's the next Bigfoot?

803
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,559
They're gonna they're gonna arrest Bigfoot? If they find them,

804
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,719
throw them out like they threw dog men down until

805
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:27,119
they got Thank you club. Let's let's give Organic Clap

806
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,519
Club thank you.

807
00:45:29,079 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 9: Yea.

808
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,159
Speaker 3: Even though Switching jumped all over you.

809
00:45:32,119 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 9: Know, I when doing my research, I was really discouraged

810
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,880
when I saw that they're going to do this legislation.

811
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,599
But then when they talk about potential motives, and I said, ah,

812
00:45:41,599 --> 00:45:42,119
here we go.

813
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:47,760
Speaker 3: What a waste of time. See, crop dusting is just

814
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:52,960
that is that is around? Right? Yeah? Switch, you you

815
00:45:53,039 --> 00:45:56,880
stepped all over club's celebration. Please tell us what you're

816
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:03,119
trying to say. Ah, okay, good, all right, makes that exercise?

817
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,559
Speaker 5: I can, I can? You know I can do five minutes.

818
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 3: All right, So we're going to go to Yeah, we're

819
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,599
going to go to you next, right, I forget where

820
00:46:11,599 --> 00:46:13,559
are we going to came? You will know we're gonna

821
00:46:13,599 --> 00:46:17,039
go to you and then Switch and then me and

822
00:46:17,039 --> 00:46:19,119
then okay, all right, all right, so why don't we

823
00:46:19,199 --> 00:46:21,239
just throw? So this is really odd. You're listening to

824
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,159
Maclony's Militrak Still show here on the Distance under Radio Network.

825
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,440
The whole gang is here, and tonight we've talked about

826
00:46:27,519 --> 00:46:30,079
chemtrails and a bunch of other things. And now I'm

827
00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:32,840
just gonna throw it over to Kim because we are

828
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,760
talking about earlier, you know, some kind of unusual subject

829
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:41,800
to do and believe it or not. Another reason, I'm

830
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:46,079
going to like the Canadians in the Canadian Canadians they

831
00:46:46,079 --> 00:46:49,360
built a flying saucer back in the fifties, I believe did,

832
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:53,239
and they tried to make tried tried to make flying

833
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,719
saucer actually like you know, like a fighter jet or

834
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,679
something like that, and and it wasn't it wasn't a

835
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,239
complete washout. So we're gonna throw it over to Kim.

836
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:07,079
My Canadian corresponded from the fifty for a state one

837
00:47:07,119 --> 00:47:07,519
of our.

838
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 1: The North.

839
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 3: Okay, your part Canadian? Switch?

840
00:47:12,599 --> 00:47:13,280
Speaker 5: What's that? Yeah?

841
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,199
Speaker 3: Your pot? Which pot? Hang?

842
00:47:15,599 --> 00:47:19,039
Speaker 5: My grandmother on my mother's side was Canadian, and it

843
00:47:19,079 --> 00:47:22,679
turns out actually she was French Canadian, which we didn't

844
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,960
know even that after she died.

845
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 9: Switch, you know, I'm also pot Canadian? The pot, I

846
00:47:30,039 --> 00:47:33,639
said on oh.

847
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,760
Speaker 6: In the room, But all right, I got it. I

848
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,719
don't admit this very often. Oh, hang on, everybody, Okay,

849
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,159
this is something I never ever ever admit.

850
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 3: It's a big announcement.

851
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:53,559
Speaker 6: My grandparents on my mother's side came here from Newfoundland.

852
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 3: Now they nufie.

853
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 6: They came from one I think my grand my mother

854
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,840
was English and my grandfather was Irish, so they were

855
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,880
they weren't allowed. I guess it was an issue in

856
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,519
the old country about them getting together. So they split

857
00:48:11,599 --> 00:48:15,960
and they went to Newfoundland. So my parents, my mother

858
00:48:17,119 --> 00:48:18,320
is a goofy Newfie.

859
00:48:18,519 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 3: It was.

860
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:23,159
Speaker 6: But the interesting part is at the time that my

861
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:27,920
grandparents were there, Newfoundland wasn't part of Canada. It was

862
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:32,079
an independent country. So, you know, I want to say

863
00:48:32,119 --> 00:48:35,719
to people my you know, my family came from Canada.

864
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 3: But they really didn't. They were goofy Newfies instead. So

865
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,760
so let me just uh, let me get this straight,

866
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:45,840
so we could throw switch out and throw you out

867
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,880
as well. Right, well, I mean I am and I'm not.

868
00:48:50,199 --> 00:48:54,599
I mean, well, you know, say that's ice anyway, So

869
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,599
you know, can I answer you can? I can? I

870
00:48:57,679 --> 00:49:02,519
just apologize to every Canadian who's listening to us and

871
00:49:02,559 --> 00:49:04,800
who will never listen to us in the future. Please

872
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:08,639
here's a Canadian correspond.

873
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,639
Speaker 9: Mean it as a negative. I meant that it was pas,

874
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,880
really did you. I'm very proud of what I said.

875
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 6: Way off, and I would rather be Canadian than you know,

876
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,119
a newfoundland Er. So I you know, I mean a Canadian?

877
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:23,480
What rather be a Canadian?

878
00:49:23,599 --> 00:49:25,800
Speaker 3: Oh? I see? Okay, are you what are you?

879
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 7: What?

880
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 6: Are you giving up your Italian No, I don't admit

881
00:49:30,039 --> 00:49:32,119
to any of it. I just say I'm Italian and

882
00:49:32,199 --> 00:49:38,000
I go with that. I just say I'm Sicilian. Oh yeah,

883
00:49:38,199 --> 00:49:41,679
you know they noticed the skin color, you know when

884
00:49:41,679 --> 00:49:45,920
I when I go for legal documents and they like

885
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,039
they put down what you know, complexion, They write medium.

886
00:49:51,079 --> 00:49:52,679
They don't say I'm white. They say I'm.

887
00:49:52,559 --> 00:49:55,079
Speaker 3: Medium meaning well done. Yeah, I'm like, oh medium, what

888
00:49:56,119 --> 00:50:00,079
show me a color swatch? Listen to can the And

889
00:50:00,159 --> 00:50:02,320
I asked the Sicilian and you can I move on?

890
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:10,760
Please do myself. Sorry to all Italians on that to him,

891
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:11,639
I was about to do a.

892
00:50:11,639 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 4: Plank part Sicilian too. My mother's name is Katanya and

893
00:50:15,039 --> 00:50:20,280
she's her grandma. Her mother was from Sicily. And if

894
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,519
you ask me, uh what you just asked, al, I'd say,

895
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:24,880
over my.

896
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:33,280
Speaker 3: Dead buddy, nikes, what can an Irish guy do here?

897
00:50:34,079 --> 00:50:35,840
I'm surrounded by.

898
00:50:36,199 --> 00:50:39,079
Speaker 4: Caught between a rock and a Sicilian hide.

899
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 3: Place right, It's about eight things you put in there

900
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,039
that we'll go with that before you go to somewhere,

901
00:50:45,199 --> 00:50:48,840
before you go back to the try to interrupt the

902
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:56,039
current situation. But now, can you read this? I read that?

903
00:50:56,360 --> 00:51:07,119
Can we read what that says? Yeah, Busty Morgan, Uh,

904
00:51:07,519 --> 00:51:14,880
him ahead, Shock balsam Sky in South Carolina, Susan, what's

905
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:19,800
going on? Hamm ahead? Shock balsam Sky in South Carolina?

906
00:51:20,519 --> 00:51:22,280
Speaker 6: Ham had shock fell on the golf course while they

907
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:25,119
were playing golf Shock NATO, NATO.

908
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 3: Is something going on down there? Wow?

909
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, yeah? Interesting only down there though? So is

910
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,719
that the report from the Onion or something?

911
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:35,559
Speaker 7: Oh?

912
00:51:35,599 --> 00:51:40,599
Speaker 3: I think it was? Uh? Is the Youngion still around?

913
00:51:41,199 --> 00:51:45,320
That's hilarious, Kim. I am trying to throw it to you,

914
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:49,400
but I'm coming a defensive don't no, Hang on a second,

915
00:51:49,679 --> 00:51:52,159
hang on, I lost it. He's lost it. So here

916
00:51:52,199 --> 00:51:56,119
we go. So, Kim Shay, you have the story about

917
00:51:56,119 --> 00:51:59,440
how the Canadian military.

918
00:51:59,519 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: Canada for sure one of our finest companies that came

919
00:52:04,519 --> 00:52:08,719
into this country nineteen forty five, kind of took over

920
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:14,960
from Victory that made bombers and stuff and hair hawkers

921
00:52:15,039 --> 00:52:17,360
and stuff like that during the Second World War. But

922
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,280
Avro took them over at the end of the war

923
00:52:21,119 --> 00:52:24,840
and proceeded to become one of our biggest companies in

924
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:29,320
Canada and one of the one hundredth biggest companies in

925
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:29,800
the world.

926
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:30,519
Speaker 3: At that time.

927
00:52:31,039 --> 00:52:34,599
Speaker 1: They had about fifty thousand employees. But they had a

928
00:52:34,679 --> 00:52:37,960
group of kind of engineers that were sort of like

929
00:52:38,119 --> 00:52:42,239
skunkworks kind of mentality. They worked on their own, they

930
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,320
worked on their premises in their own private place. Even

931
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:47,760
the bosses didn't know what they were doing, but they

932
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:51,079
had ideas and some of them panned out, some of

933
00:52:51,119 --> 00:52:53,880
them didn't. But one of them was kind of based

934
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:58,920
on this I guess it was coined in the turn

935
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:02,400
of the century actual the nineteenth century. And I'm not

936
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,320
going to get the word right because it's French, and

937
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:09,400
it's like my French isn't the greatest. But it's a

938
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:15,679
principle of airflow around a surface. So basically the idea

939
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,480
is that you move a quick wind over a curved

940
00:53:19,519 --> 00:53:22,400
surface and it will stick to it because of the

941
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:26,320
high pressure that it creates. Anyways, you can read about

942
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:29,320
that little thing if anybody wants to. It's very interesting stuff.

943
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:34,000
But these engineers, being the biggest engineer was Jack Frost.

944
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,679
He came here in forty seven from de Haveland. So

945
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:39,119
he worked on a bunch of the cool fighter jets

946
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,480
at the end of the Second World War and during

947
00:53:41,639 --> 00:53:45,480
one of them being the Vampire, and he came here

948
00:53:45,519 --> 00:53:48,840
and decided to put well, what he was trying to

949
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,840
do was make a better compressor and a better jet engine.

950
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,400
But in doing so, they also were working on some

951
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,440
of this ideas of surfaces and what they could do

952
00:53:58,599 --> 00:54:03,039
with I guess moving air and so at that time

953
00:54:03,079 --> 00:54:05,480
in the fifties, they had a real problem, and that

954
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:09,199
was the idea that they wanted an aircraft to be VTOL,

955
00:54:09,679 --> 00:54:13,360
meaning vertical takeoff and landing or PTol, which is a

956
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:17,800
zero length project that incorporated rockets, so that a plane

957
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,360
could take off from the ground with a rocket and

958
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,679
then be airborne, right but kind of hard to land them,

959
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:26,800
kind of difficult to position them. It was one of

960
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,159
the greatest ideas. So the vto L was something that

961
00:54:29,159 --> 00:54:32,119
they were working on, and it was basically based around

962
00:54:32,119 --> 00:54:37,599
that idea of the first strike strategy with nuclear weapons.

963
00:54:38,079 --> 00:54:40,199
So you know, they knew that their airports were going

964
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,000
to get taken out if they were going to get hit,

965
00:54:43,079 --> 00:54:45,000
so they wanted to be able to have an aircraft

966
00:54:45,079 --> 00:54:47,000
that would vto l and be able to take off

967
00:54:47,039 --> 00:54:50,679
from anywhere. So they came up with this idea. But

968
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,039
it happened to turn out that a couple of big

969
00:54:53,079 --> 00:54:56,559
wigs from the US came into Canada and were hanging

970
00:54:56,559 --> 00:54:58,519
out at Avro and they were looking at one of

971
00:54:58,559 --> 00:55:02,400
our new aircraft see one hundred, which is a really

972
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:07,400
fantastically aircraft at the time. Yes, and Jack got a

973
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:08,840
hold of them and he wanted to show them what

974
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,679
he was working on. And even the bosses didn't know

975
00:55:11,679 --> 00:55:13,519
what they were working on, but he took these guys

976
00:55:13,559 --> 00:55:15,840
to the side and he started showing them what the

977
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:17,800
stuff could do, and he had some models and he

978
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:21,280
had things going, and they listened with quite the intent,

979
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:25,320
and they were sold. They went back down back down

980
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:28,519
to Washington and they sold it to everybody, and everybody

981
00:55:28,599 --> 00:55:31,119
was pretty convinced that this was going to be takeover

982
00:55:31,199 --> 00:55:34,960
the helicopter. The helicopters would be defunct, wow, and that

983
00:55:35,039 --> 00:55:38,880
they would be history and we'd all be flying around

984
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:43,440
in these Zavro cars. Well, you know, so, just just

985
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,960
to give some of the parameters for some of the

986
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,519
performances that was estimated. So they came out and said

987
00:55:49,519 --> 00:55:51,159
that basically they were going to be able to do

988
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:54,840
two hundred and twenty five knots, be able to fly

989
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,440
up to about ten thousand feet and go probably about

990
00:55:58,440 --> 00:55:59,480
one thousand miles.

991
00:56:00,079 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 3: Thing look like the period like.

992
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and be supersonic and.

993
00:56:05,519 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 3: Subsonic and v too.

994
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:10,960
Speaker 1: Well, So this thing was like kind of like oh

995
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,280
they smoked. People couldn't believe it, right, that this is

996
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,679
going to actually pan out to have an aircraft that

997
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:19,239
was going to be able, because I mean, in the

998
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,800
fifties they had that real problem, that real vaccine technical

999
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:28,559
issue from going subsonic and supersonic two didn't combine well together. Right, Yes,

1000
00:56:28,599 --> 00:56:31,239
he had a plane that was, you know, going faster

1001
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,320
than the speed of sound. He had aircraft that went less,

1002
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:36,679
but this plane was going to be able to do

1003
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:38,679
it all. They they kind of were working on a

1004
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,679
delta wing, a spade kind of shape, you know, they

1005
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,519
spade in cards that kind of a design.

1006
00:56:44,679 --> 00:56:47,079
Speaker 3: Yes, they got more into.

1007
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,519
Speaker 1: The saucer kind of thing, right, and he had done

1008
00:56:49,559 --> 00:56:53,079
up some models and the Americans were interested. They dumped

1009
00:56:53,079 --> 00:56:55,960
a whole bunch of money into it, and so did

1010
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,639
AVRO and so did the Canadian government and then okay,

1011
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,320
well let's let's get our project going here. So, I

1012
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,760
mean the first time they ever flew one, all all

1013
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,360
the early models were tethered.

1014
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,559
Speaker 3: To this video of this too, this film of them

1015
00:57:11,559 --> 00:57:12,360
flying this thing.

1016
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,079
Speaker 1: There was only one that actually ever flew without a tether,

1017
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,159
and that happened like November twelfth and nineteen fifty nine,

1018
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:26,760
and it it like they crashed. Like I laughed, because

1019
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,599
I mean when when I first started looking at this MAC,

1020
00:57:29,679 --> 00:57:31,920
I was thinking, well, yeah, I mean, didn't they just

1021
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:36,039
make a hovercraft like really well, actually this was before

1022
00:57:36,039 --> 00:57:39,559
the hovercraft, so they if they had just put us

1023
00:57:39,559 --> 00:57:42,079
some skirts around it, they probably would have had vented

1024
00:57:42,079 --> 00:57:44,880
a hovercraft at that time. But that wasn't what they

1025
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,199
were working on. They were working on VTWOL and they

1026
00:57:47,239 --> 00:57:50,159
were trying to make this thing work. So, I mean,

1027
00:57:50,239 --> 00:57:52,599
as soon as you get so the idea was to

1028
00:57:52,639 --> 00:57:54,960
go from a hover to a vertical flight and be

1029
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,559
able to go cruising wherever you wanted to, right, Yeah,

1030
00:57:57,559 --> 00:57:59,679
they also wanted it to be able to sit still

1031
00:57:59,719 --> 00:58:03,039
and hover off the ground while it works really nicely

1032
00:58:03,119 --> 00:58:05,920
when it's low because that because it blows air.

1033
00:58:06,119 --> 00:58:08,239
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, okay, anyways, you had.

1034
00:58:08,119 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 1: Three jet engines that are running a big rotor fan yep,

1035
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:16,440
sort of like a turbine prop turbine engine, right, except

1036
00:58:16,599 --> 00:58:19,000
it would blow this one hundred and twenty four bladed

1037
00:58:19,119 --> 00:58:23,360
huge blades around it, which would cause the air to

1038
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:27,119
be blown from the top to the bottom hitting the ground. Basically,

1039
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:29,440
if you're close enough to the ground, it creates a cushion,

1040
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,199
there's no big deal. And then you have vents along

1041
00:58:32,239 --> 00:58:34,320
the edges to control which way you want to go

1042
00:58:34,519 --> 00:58:37,280
and which kind of that idea, and that was a

1043
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,000
problem with them too. They had to come up with

1044
00:58:39,039 --> 00:58:42,119
some different technology. But the problem was is that it

1045
00:58:42,199 --> 00:58:44,280
worked really well on the close to the ground, but

1046
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,519
as soon as you lift it up, they got like

1047
00:58:46,559 --> 00:58:49,760
what was called a tree posting or whatever, where the

1048
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:53,480
thrust would become narrower and narrower. And now you're balancing

1049
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:57,480
this thing on the end of this thrust from this engine. Right,

1050
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,280
it started you a hub capping and start going forward

1051
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,400
and back forth and getting lifted and they would do

1052
00:59:04,559 --> 00:59:07,480
crazy stuff and they just nobody could really fly it.

1053
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:11,960
It was an impossibility to control. Now, maybe with today's

1054
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,559
technology and computers and better engines yep. Three engines that

1055
00:59:15,599 --> 00:59:17,960
they put in. It had six hundred and sixty pounds

1056
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:18,519
of thrust.

1057
00:59:19,159 --> 00:59:21,239
Speaker 3: That was all yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot.

1058
00:59:21,639 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 1: It was kind of a kneemic, right, I mean basically,

1059
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,800
like I was saying, okay, so just to add to

1060
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:32,400
this story, because what they actually you know, there's the estimated,

1061
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,719
right you guys, and then there was the actual. The

1062
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,679
estimated was okay, like two hundred and twenty five knots. Well,

1063
00:59:38,719 --> 00:59:40,960
the actual was thirty five miles an hour.

1064
00:59:41,079 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 3: Oh wait, okay, all right, baby, step now the ceiling.

1065
00:59:44,519 --> 00:59:47,239
Speaker 1: Now the ceiling. Don't get excited here, because I mean

1066
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:50,440
they must have almost got vertigo on this one because

1067
00:59:50,639 --> 00:59:54,400
the actual for ceiling, well, I said before they wanted

1068
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,760
to get to ten thousand feet, but the actual was

1069
00:59:57,079 --> 00:59:58,039
three feet.

1070
00:59:58,039 --> 01:00:01,519
Speaker 3: Three feet just three feet wow, okay.

1071
01:00:02,079 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 1: And then when it went to range, well it did

1072
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:07,079
about eighty miles and that's all they could get out

1073
01:00:07,119 --> 01:00:09,440
of it. So it just was a kneemeck. It just

1074
01:00:09,519 --> 01:00:12,239
didn't do right what they thought, and I mean they

1075
01:00:12,239 --> 01:00:14,280
thought it was going to go mock three point five.

1076
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:17,400
That was some of the first stuff that that Jack

1077
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:20,000
Frost had told the guys down the States, the Air Force,

1078
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:22,239
which I think with at the time was the Army,

1079
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:26,559
right yeah, okay, military secret projects is where it actually

1080
01:00:26,639 --> 01:00:29,679
ended up going to. But I mean everybody was convinced,

1081
01:00:29,719 --> 01:00:31,280
like I say, that this was going to take over

1082
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:33,360
and they were all going to be flying around in

1083
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:36,599
these things and it would be. But as it coined

1084
01:00:36,639 --> 01:00:38,760
out and panned out, it didn't. But I got to

1085
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,119
give you guys credit because one of the one of

1086
01:00:41,159 --> 01:00:46,679
the test vehicles, like was beaten up and badly bruised,

1087
01:00:46,679 --> 01:00:49,360
but it has actually been all rebuilt and it's, uh,

1088
01:00:50,039 --> 01:00:51,800
I'm going to flub up where it's at, but it's

1089
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,119
in one of the museums for.

1090
01:00:54,039 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 4: Aerospace Swithsoian or aircraft.

1091
01:00:58,239 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 1: It would be cool to see because it's like been

1092
01:01:00,159 --> 01:01:01,559
it's I think I sent.

1093
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:02,920
Speaker 3: A picture to Mac of it.

1094
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 1: It looks like a million bucks. It looks like, wow,

1095
01:01:05,039 --> 01:01:09,639
what very cool looking thing. But fortunately, you know, I

1096
01:01:09,679 --> 01:01:14,079
mean they didn't get some technology from it, ducted fan technology. Okay, yeah,

1097
01:01:14,199 --> 01:01:15,920
they were ahead of the game, like and like I said,

1098
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,079
the hovercraft, if they just skirted it, they would have

1099
01:01:18,079 --> 01:01:20,880
been ahead of the game there too, but it didn't happen,

1100
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:22,960
and it was just kind of an oddity. And then

1101
01:01:23,239 --> 01:01:26,000
people thought that the Soviets of course had got the

1102
01:01:26,039 --> 01:01:29,119
blueprints and were making them and flying them around. You

1103
01:01:29,159 --> 01:01:31,760
know that that's where that kind of came from, too, right,

1104
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,480
I mean that old idea that we're being inundated with

1105
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:39,480
some of these flying saucers. Okay, well, I don't know

1106
01:01:39,519 --> 01:01:41,239
if it wasn't it wasn't one of ours.

1107
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 3: I'll tell you that the Russians have a and now

1108
01:01:46,079 --> 01:01:52,599
pronounce it Ryan. It's called ecto plans, Ecto plans, something

1109
01:01:52,599 --> 01:01:55,519
along those lines. So what they look like, they're like

1110
01:01:55,559 --> 01:02:03,599
a flying battleship, and they're enormous. They're enormous, and they

1111
01:02:03,639 --> 01:02:08,559
have these engines that they thrust downward. And when you

1112
01:02:08,719 --> 01:02:11,599
do this with the design of this plane, and it's

1113
01:02:11,639 --> 01:02:16,280
really odd looking, that creates a cushion of air. So

1114
01:02:16,360 --> 01:02:19,400
this plane, that is, it's half plane and half bowleship.

1115
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:22,920
A troop ship can fly along the water. About ten

1116
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,400
feet above the water is its limit. But it can

1117
01:02:25,519 --> 01:02:30,400
go like hell, there's something very very big, and that's

1118
01:02:30,719 --> 01:02:33,360
I don't think it's ducted. Fans. Ducted fans came in

1119
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:37,199
with the F thirty five has ducted fans. The Harrea

1120
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:41,079
has movable veins. Reducted fans are a completely different thing.

1121
01:02:41,079 --> 01:02:43,400
And I think that there's a Russian airplane called the

1122
01:02:43,440 --> 01:02:46,840
Yak twenty eight that also has them. But you're basically

1123
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:51,280
you're flying around with this fan that when you want,

1124
01:02:51,559 --> 01:02:54,199
you can stop in mid air and land and take

1125
01:02:54,199 --> 01:02:56,719
off vertically. They don't do that a lot as a

1126
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:59,320
crossing gas but you can also be put on an

1127
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:03,119
aircraft carry has that that ramp that just kind of

1128
01:03:03,159 --> 01:03:05,960
takes off, you know, and that saves the gasoline and yeah,

1129
01:03:06,239 --> 01:03:10,039
and so on and so forth. So it's interesting that

1130
01:03:10,079 --> 01:03:14,599
the that technology came from from this slion sausages thing.

1131
01:03:14,679 --> 01:03:16,320
And it's also odd that they came up with a

1132
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:20,519
flying sausage shape in the fifties because lining sauses are everywhere.

1133
01:03:20,559 --> 01:03:22,400
You know, it would be funny if this is the

1134
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:25,079
way you go, but it turned out to be no.

1135
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's that's true. And the guys did go

1136
01:03:29,079 --> 01:03:31,679
on to make the Harrier, which is kind of some

1137
01:03:31,719 --> 01:03:33,599
of the engine that the engine that they were working

1138
01:03:33,599 --> 01:03:36,039
with is actually the Pegasus YEP that they put in

1139
01:03:36,079 --> 01:03:39,239
the Harrier. So some of that technology did pan off in.

1140
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,039
Speaker 3: Different directions and that's what happens.

1141
01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:43,960
Speaker 1: But Hey, the interesting thing about that MAC is that

1142
01:03:44,079 --> 01:03:46,280
the Avro Canada at that time that the c F

1143
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:49,320
one O five which was the Arrow, and the Arrow

1144
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,440
was canceled, which really kind of killed this program too.

1145
01:03:52,559 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 3: So it was canceled by the Pentagon because they were

1146
01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:01,039
they wanted to produce the F one eleven, which they

1147
01:04:01,079 --> 01:04:03,039
thought was going to be one of these do it

1148
01:04:03,079 --> 01:04:06,719
all airplanes. It turned out to be not that, but

1149
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,760
it turned to be an okay airplane. But they didn't

1150
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:16,199
want the Canadians to have a rival airplane, so they

1151
01:04:16,519 --> 01:04:19,760
put a lot of pressure on I guess Avro, and

1152
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:22,559
they discontinued that. A lot of people say that that

1153
01:04:22,719 --> 01:04:25,960
was one of the best super starling interceptors ever made,

1154
01:04:26,559 --> 01:04:28,000
the c F one oh five.

1155
01:04:28,599 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 1: It was ahead of its time, there's no doubt about huge.

1156
01:04:31,079 --> 01:04:33,880
Got to be good ten years ahead of everybody else, right, Yeah,

1157
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:36,320
it was kind of kind of strange for a little

1158
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:38,920
country like us at that time to have such technology.

1159
01:04:39,559 --> 01:04:41,960
I think it freaked the pants off a lot of people.

1160
01:04:42,559 --> 01:04:44,719
You know, it was just like but but it did

1161
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,920
kill Avrol, which to be bad because I mean, for

1162
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:51,360
that company to be producing the aircraft that they did

1163
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,559
make and be part of our you know, technology in

1164
01:04:54,599 --> 01:04:56,440
our country was a really sad thing for this.

1165
01:04:56,559 --> 01:04:59,559
Speaker 3: Avro Lancaster was a bum during Rollo too. There was,

1166
01:04:59,599 --> 01:05:03,519
you know, of them, another odd thing that the Canadian

1167
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,960
government did and I applaud this and this happened. I

1168
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:09,880
can't tell you how many years ago, but you know,

1169
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:14,280
years ago, the Canadian military was just like us. There,

1170
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:19,960
Canadian Navy, Canadian Air Force, Canadian Army. And then somewhere

1171
01:05:20,199 --> 01:05:22,400
I'm going to say in the early seventies, someone came

1172
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:25,039
up with the idea of why is everything an intriplicate,

1173
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:27,960
Let's just make it all one thing. So they made

1174
01:05:28,039 --> 01:05:31,840
them the Canadian forces and they integrated it all and

1175
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:35,320
that had to save tons and tons of money and

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01:05:35,519 --> 01:05:38,079
paperwork and everything, right, Kim.

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01:05:38,599 --> 01:05:41,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, and totally trying to centralize it a bit. There

1178
01:05:41,159 --> 01:05:42,920
was people that were ticked off, like the Air Force

1179
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,679
guys who are still kind of like you know, because

1180
01:05:45,679 --> 01:05:49,599
they're in their own kind of area of expertise and people.

1181
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Speaker 3: Right.

1182
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 1: I think it's just kind of always been segregated just

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because of that.

1184
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I think it's a great idea.

1185
01:05:56,719 --> 01:05:58,400
I mean, I think it's a great I think it's

1186
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:00,559
a good idea. But it works. I don't know if work

1187
01:06:00,559 --> 01:06:03,559
for a country like the US, but it solves a

1188
01:06:03,559 --> 01:06:05,559
lot of problems and it saves a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: We had one of the biggest navies after the Second

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01:06:08,519 --> 01:06:09,000
World War.

1191
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 3: Really yeah, unbelievable.

1192
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:13,719
Speaker 1: How we armed ourselves and then disarmed ourselves.

1193
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we have a lot.

1194
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,199
Speaker 1: Of it's mad, we don't we get.

1195
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 3: Really sorry, I'm mad anyway, Thank you, Kim. Was going

1196
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:30,679
to clap for you, Kim, and a great organic clap there.

1197
01:06:30,719 --> 01:06:32,079
He is Buddha.

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Speaker 1: Very cool subject for sure, y.

1199
01:06:34,679 --> 01:06:37,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really interesting and the film is cool.

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01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:39,920
Speaker 1: Things off it too. You could look at that subject

1201
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:43,639
for the next days. It's just there's so many offshoots

1202
01:06:43,639 --> 01:06:45,559
from it, so it's really cool, very cool.

1203
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:51,079
Speaker 3: Also, speaking about really cool, well let's say a lot

1204
01:06:51,119 --> 01:06:53,639
of them. I'm sorry. Let's switch it over to switchy

1205
01:06:53,719 --> 01:06:57,239
real quick, switchy. You're cool, you are you're cool, stretched

1206
01:06:57,719 --> 01:07:00,480
too cool for school, too cool for school. It's cool cats,

1207
01:07:00,519 --> 01:07:05,119
that's for sure. Well, let's not go back and I switched. Yes,

1208
01:07:05,559 --> 01:07:07,880
you have a report.

1209
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 5: I do. Would you like me to get started?

1210
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 3: Sure?

1211
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:13,199
Speaker 9: Okay?

1212
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:19,519
Speaker 5: The source material for this two books by Jacques Beallet Dimensions,

1213
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:21,880
the Case Book of Alien Contact, which is part of

1214
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:24,880
a trilogy he did in the late eighties early nineties,

1215
01:07:25,239 --> 01:07:29,760
and also Passport to Mogonia from Full Quorteriflying Saucers that

1216
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:32,599
goes back to the sixties. That's the third book he wrote.

1217
01:07:33,119 --> 01:07:36,840
His first two books focused on UFOs from a sort

1218
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:39,480
of a nuts and bolts standpoint, but then he kind

1219
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:42,360
of threw up his hands because things just weren't driving.

1220
01:07:43,199 --> 01:07:47,840
And the first book I'm getting information from is by

1221
01:07:48,039 --> 01:07:50,800
Ingo's Swan. We know him as a he was a

1222
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:55,159
military remote viewer. He helped the military develop their protocols.

1223
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:58,239
But this book is a little different. It's called The

1224
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:02,519
Great Apparitions of Mary, an examination of twenty two super

1225
01:08:02,559 --> 01:08:10,719
normal appearances. So the general gist of this is some

1226
01:08:12,039 --> 01:08:16,039
events we look at as religious miracles do kind of

1227
01:08:16,119 --> 01:08:19,760
bleed over a little bit to some of the UFO

1228
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:21,359
experiences that have been reported.

1229
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:24,640
Speaker 3: Are these appearances by the BVM as the kids caller,

1230
01:08:27,079 --> 01:08:29,800
is that what the kids call be the Blessed Virgid Mary.

1231
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:32,319
The person that is that is that the appearances, is

1232
01:08:32,319 --> 01:08:35,960
that the appearances You're you speak well the first.

1233
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 5: One, yes, but the other ones are different. Religious manifestation saints.

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01:08:42,119 --> 01:08:43,800
Speaker 3: Okay, go ahead, yeah, go ahead, okay.

1235
01:08:46,159 --> 01:08:51,439
Speaker 5: Las Sallette in France. It's a small hamlet southeast of Paris,

1236
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:55,399
Paris in the French Alps. Now it was this was

1237
01:08:55,479 --> 01:09:00,159
late afternoon on a Saturday, September nineteenth, eighteen forty six.

1238
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:04,920
Two children were hired to guard to guard cows on

1239
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:09,520
the mountain slopes. Now, when they returned the cows, they

1240
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:13,279
talked about this, this strange but beautiful experience that occurred

1241
01:09:13,279 --> 01:09:17,279
to them. A fourteen year old girl named Melanie Mattou

1242
01:09:18,239 --> 01:09:23,199
and the boy was Maximum g who I'm trying to

1243
01:09:23,199 --> 01:09:26,640
get the I listened to the correct pronunciations for this.

1244
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:29,600
Speaker 3: His name was Maximum, really well.

1245
01:09:29,439 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 5: Maximum, but the the last name is spelled like Gerard,

1246
01:09:34,119 --> 01:09:35,680
but it's not pronounced like.

1247
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 3: Gerard maximin Gerard. Yeah, okay, wow age.

1248
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:46,600
Speaker 5: He was age eleven and she was fourteen, and they

1249
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:50,880
had come upon in kind of a ravine, a circle

1250
01:09:51,079 --> 01:09:55,960
of brilliant light. And now, in some cases, in some

1251
01:09:56,760 --> 01:10:00,439
references to this, it sounds more like a like an

1252
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:03,920
egg shape or round shake metallic craft. But in this

1253
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:06,279
report it talks about a kind of a ball of light,

1254
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:10,720
and in one source that says a door opened, this

1255
01:10:10,760 --> 01:10:14,520
one says, more like an opening just kind of appeared

1256
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:18,720
in this ball of light. And inside, Now it was

1257
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:23,319
not definitely not a gray alien or et. They could

1258
01:10:23,359 --> 01:10:27,000
make out a figure of a woman, and she was seated.

1259
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:31,479
Her face was in her hands, so she's crying. They

1260
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:35,880
believed they had countered the most Holy Virgin. And she

1261
01:10:36,079 --> 01:10:42,119
was wearing a clothing that was silver, white and quite brilliant,

1262
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:47,640
sparkling and dazzling. And she came out, she spoke to them.

1263
01:10:48,079 --> 01:10:52,800
Now she was They said, she was wearing a yellow pinafore, like,

1264
01:10:53,479 --> 01:10:56,520
you know, not exactly the garment you would expect.

1265
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:58,720
Speaker 3: What does a pinafol? Please? What is it? Can you

1266
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:00,920
explain it? Switching like a dress?

1267
01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:06,560
Speaker 5: Okay, it's really like a dress like a dress. Not

1268
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:07,880
exactly what you'd expect.

1269
01:11:08,159 --> 01:11:14,239
Speaker 3: Let's ask Susan. Either one doesn't know.

1270
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:16,760
Speaker 7: I don't. I don't. I have a feeling of some

1271
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:19,199
kind of like overdressed, like you would put all your

1272
01:11:19,199 --> 01:11:21,239
skirts and stuff on and then put this over the

1273
01:11:21,279 --> 01:11:21,680
top of.

1274
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:23,079
Speaker 5: It something like that.

1275
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:30,319
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, they're big. Now we understand. We see the

1276
01:11:30,359 --> 01:11:32,199
picture painted for us. Go ahead, please.

1277
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:36,319
Speaker 5: The children were very excited. They said her face was majestic,

1278
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:40,680
she was beautiful, she was surrounded by two auras. Now

1279
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:43,640
there's much much more detail that goes on forever about

1280
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:47,359
her appearance than what she was wearing. And she made

1281
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:54,239
predictions about failing crops and famine and so forth, and actually, uh,

1282
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:57,000
you know that the kids reported it. At first, they

1283
01:11:57,039 --> 01:12:02,279
weren't believed, but eventually some of these predictions did come true.

1284
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:05,239
Crops were failing by the end of eighteen forty six,

1285
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:13,000
and many of these predictions were fulfilled, and there were

1286
01:12:13,039 --> 01:12:16,760
actually thousands of pilgrims arrived after the word got out.

1287
01:12:17,479 --> 01:12:22,359
By eighteen forty seven, there were twenty three documented healings

1288
01:12:22,359 --> 01:12:27,000
that occurred. And they at first the authorities threatened the

1289
01:12:27,039 --> 01:12:31,119
children with excommunication if they didn't tell the truth. The

1290
01:12:31,239 --> 01:12:37,439
children really understood excommunication, but eventually the miracle was accepted

1291
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:40,359
and they believed it was actually a true encounter.

1292
01:12:41,079 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 3: Now this next one, well, I just want to say

1293
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:47,000
if I can interrupt you one one, just send me

1294
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:50,319
a note. I think the BVM is way hot. No, wait,

1295
01:12:51,199 --> 01:12:55,840
that's really an appropriate one. I'm looking at the images

1296
01:12:55,880 --> 01:13:00,760
of Pinafores. Well, let's move on this.

1297
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:03,600
Speaker 5: See the thing is it starts out. It almost sounds

1298
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:06,000
like a close encounter of the third kind, if you

1299
01:13:06,319 --> 01:13:11,520
talk about this object that the lady arrives in that

1300
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:16,119
or is seen in. But obviously it's not really an

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01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:25,079
encounter now and Jacques let covers another incident Knock a

1302
01:13:25,119 --> 01:13:28,600
small village in West Ireland. This is August twenty first,

1303
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:32,720
eighteen seventy nine. It's really bad weather. It's raining very hard.

1304
01:13:33,239 --> 01:13:40,880
Archdeacon Kavanaugh who returned home that evening. Early evening, Mary McLaughlin,

1305
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:43,840
the housekeeper, had lighted a fire and she went to

1306
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,760
go visit a friend, and as she passed the church,

1307
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:50,880
she noticed three figures in the field adjacent to the church,

1308
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:54,319
and something that looked like an altar. She found it

1309
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:58,199
very strange, but she ignored it, and two other parishioners

1310
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:03,479
saw it also, and they also ignored it. Later on,

1311
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:06,159
when she came back by the church, she and her

1312
01:14:06,199 --> 01:14:10,079
friend went past it, and it was not quite dark

1313
01:14:10,159 --> 01:14:16,920
yet evening was approaching, but she saw these three figures

1314
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:22,640
much closer. The central figure was our lady, and there

1315
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:26,880
was on her right with Saint Joseph. The third figure,

1316
01:14:27,199 --> 01:14:31,119
they said was Saint John the Evangelist. Now soon eighteen

1317
01:14:31,119 --> 01:14:36,319
parishioners were crowded around the apparitions. A diocesan commission later

1318
01:14:36,359 --> 01:14:41,039
on investigated this incident. Fourteen witnesses, three men, two children,

1319
01:14:41,199 --> 01:14:45,720
three teenagers, six women ages six to seventy five, and

1320
01:14:46,039 --> 01:14:50,279
they all described this incident and their testimonies were very similar.

1321
01:14:51,560 --> 01:14:54,760
Another man who lived about a half mile away from

1322
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:58,800
Knack came before the same commission to report that he

1323
01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:03,199
witnessed a large globe of golden light that night, about

1324
01:15:03,279 --> 01:15:06,319
nine pm. This globe of light was there for a

1325
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:10,039
very long time, and at first he thought somebody foolishly

1326
01:15:10,079 --> 01:15:13,079
had started a fire on the church grounds. Later he

1327
01:15:13,159 --> 01:15:16,439
was told about the apparitions of the three saints, and

1328
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:20,359
they reported that the light was golden and sparkling, as

1329
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:23,479
bright as the sun. The light would change, it would

1330
01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:27,680
illuminate the sky above and beyond the church and within

1331
01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:31,720
the lighted area. Everyone that was there saw the apparitions.

1332
01:15:33,079 --> 01:15:40,960
They were clothed in brilliant white silver light and silver

1333
01:15:41,159 --> 01:15:45,520
like garments actually, and behind them appeared to be some

1334
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:50,279
kind of altar and with a large cross on it,

1335
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:53,560
and in front of it was a young lamb with

1336
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:58,119
its face directed toward the west. The lady. On the

1337
01:15:58,199 --> 01:16:01,319
lady's head was a crown or brilliant crown. Her hands

1338
01:16:01,359 --> 01:16:07,079
were apart and raised upward. Valet says that there weren't

1339
01:16:07,119 --> 01:16:12,920
any paintings or statues of her in that position, suggesting

1340
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:16,239
that perhaps people were not influenced by some of the

1341
01:16:16,359 --> 01:16:26,000
artworks of the lady. Now, Bridget Trench, who was one

1342
01:16:26,039 --> 01:16:29,600
of the witnesses, was so moved that she went to

1343
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:33,600
embrace the virgin's bare feet, but her arms closed on

1344
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:37,479
empty air. She was stunned because the figures seemed so

1345
01:16:37,640 --> 01:16:43,800
lifelike and real. She was completely completely dumbfounded. And the

1346
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:46,840
other thing is the rain was still pouring down, but

1347
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:50,720
it was completely dry where they were. The where the

1348
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:56,880
apparitions were. Saint John was holding a book. Patrick Hill

1349
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,800
got close enough to where he could actually see lines

1350
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:04,359
and letters in the book. Now, the parish priest said

1351
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:07,039
he was informed about it. He said, oh, they were

1352
01:17:07,199 --> 01:17:10,520
probably just reflections from the stained glass windows.

1353
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:11,039
Speaker 2: That's it.

1354
01:17:11,119 --> 01:17:13,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense, and.

1355
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:18,039
Speaker 5: He stayed home. The event lasted several hours. The next

1356
01:17:18,079 --> 01:17:22,640
morning there was not much of anything left. Ten days afterwards,

1357
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:26,439
the incident a deaf child was healed. A man born

1358
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:32,359
blind was able to see after visiting not soon. There

1359
01:17:32,359 --> 01:17:35,720
were like something like seven to eight healings occurred every

1360
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:39,279
week in the area. A man one man was so

1361
01:17:39,319 --> 01:17:43,039
sick and dying. This is early after the next day.

1362
01:17:43,399 --> 01:17:46,079
He was actually throwing up blood as he was being

1363
01:17:46,119 --> 01:17:49,079
carried to the church. He received his last sacraments from

1364
01:17:49,119 --> 01:17:54,239
the archdeacon on his arrival, and then he was there

1365
01:17:54,319 --> 01:17:57,119
was some I guess there was some moisture left there,

1366
01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:00,680
and he drank the water and he was cure instantly

1367
01:18:01,199 --> 01:18:10,600
from being near death. A science professor from Maynooth performed

1368
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:13,920
tests with a magic lantern. One of these things will

1369
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:17,039
project images on the wall, and so there was quite

1370
01:18:17,039 --> 01:18:20,600
an investigation and it came to the conclusion that whatever

1371
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:24,199
this was, it definitely was not due to a magic lantern.

1372
01:18:26,079 --> 01:18:30,439
Belay goes on to talk about some obvious similarities between

1373
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:34,159
some of these especially knock some of these cases and

1374
01:18:34,319 --> 01:18:39,239
UFO experiences. The strange globe of light of varying intensity,

1375
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:44,640
the luminous entities. I mean, if these entities were grays

1376
01:18:45,039 --> 01:18:48,079
or something that looked like ET's, you know, it would

1377
01:18:48,079 --> 01:18:52,560
have been a perfect interchange that everything else is the same.

1378
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:56,239
And also now he mentions about how a lot of

1379
01:18:56,279 --> 01:18:59,920
people aren't aware of some of the healings that occur

1380
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:03,399
during these incidents. And of course, very recently we talked

1381
01:19:03,399 --> 01:19:08,359
about Preston Denis's book about three hundreds healings from what

1382
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:15,359
he called extraterrestrials. So you have you have these interesting parallels.

1383
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:18,520
The same way you have interesting parallels with some UFO

1384
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:24,800
experiences and various traditions of folklore. And one wonders, you know,

1385
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:27,920
what is the what is at the heart of it,

1386
01:19:28,079 --> 01:19:31,680
and why do these things seem to bleed over or

1387
01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:35,000
overlap a little bit. It's very, very, very difficult to

1388
01:19:35,199 --> 01:19:38,239
determine what's going on. You know, we we have talked

1389
01:19:38,239 --> 01:19:42,479
before about how you know, you have the close encounter experience.

1390
01:19:43,279 --> 01:19:48,000
Some of them are very Helian or relalien, where they

1391
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:54,800
seem to be temporal transmogrifications of energy, psychic, very ethereal

1392
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:57,680
that don't don't last. On the other hand, there are

1393
01:19:57,760 --> 01:20:01,399
cases that seem to be very much nuts and bolts,

1394
01:20:01,399 --> 01:20:04,000
flesh and blood. It just seems to be some kind

1395
01:20:04,039 --> 01:20:08,159
of duality there. Bigfoot. You have some bigfoots off in

1396
01:20:08,199 --> 01:20:10,880
the Northwest that seem to be flesh and blood creatures,

1397
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:14,680
although in some cases there's a high strangeness factor there too.

1398
01:20:15,079 --> 01:20:19,239
Then you have the ones in Pennsylvania that Stan Gordon examined.

1399
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:21,640
It would disappear in a flash of light if you

1400
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:24,960
shot them, almost like they're a counterfeit of the real thing.

1401
01:20:25,399 --> 01:20:28,720
So what I'm wondering is do we have some Now

1402
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:31,560
I did not sometimes I'd like to get into the

1403
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:35,239
miracle of Fatima because it's very complex and very very strange.

1404
01:20:35,399 --> 01:20:36,640
Speaker 3: Yes, But you know.

1405
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:40,600
Speaker 5: So, do we have a situation where we have some

1406
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:47,239
genuine spiritual UFO experiences and some that are more like

1407
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:51,640
when I mentioned on another program where Scott Rogo thought

1408
01:20:51,640 --> 01:20:54,439
that some of these things were kind of a wish fulfillment.

1409
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:59,319
People were projecting these things, they were becoming temporarily manifest

1410
01:20:59,359 --> 01:21:03,119
And I think it's possible that the religious experience, some

1411
01:21:03,159 --> 01:21:06,680
of them may well be very legitimate and it come

1412
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:12,439
from the divine, and others may be more psychological and

1413
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:14,039
more like projections.

1414
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 3: Just to put a cherry on top, when you mentioned

1415
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:21,000
Fatima and the last appearance in Fatima, there were thirty

1416
01:21:21,079 --> 01:21:28,960
thousand people in a field, an open field, thirty thousand people,

1417
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:31,319
and they saw the sun dance. They took pictures of

1418
01:21:31,359 --> 01:21:36,279
it that the sun it had rained earlier in that morning,

1419
01:21:36,319 --> 01:21:39,079
and the sun came so close to the people that

1420
01:21:39,439 --> 01:21:42,399
it dried their clothes. And the interesting thing about this

1421
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:44,960
we've talked about it before the show is at the time,

1422
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:47,479
there were five newspapers in Portugal and they were all

1423
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:50,960
run by the government, which was very very anti religious,

1424
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:55,800
very very anti Catholic, and their correspondents are the ones

1425
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:59,119
who took the pictures and wrote the stories. So the

1426
01:21:59,239 --> 01:22:02,039
least likeliest people in the crowd were the ones who

1427
01:22:02,199 --> 01:22:05,279
documented it. And if you just take away the religious

1428
01:22:05,359 --> 01:22:09,199
aspect of it, it sounds like a UFO siting, like

1429
01:22:09,239 --> 01:22:13,319
a fantastic one. But you know, it's it hits all

1430
01:22:13,319 --> 01:22:15,800
the it fills all the boxes. It just happens to

1431
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:19,920
be hysterically remembered as a religious event, you know.

1432
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:23,680
Speaker 5: And it was like I said, I'll report on it

1433
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:26,880
sometime in the future. But the children were kind of

1434
01:22:27,039 --> 01:22:29,960
like they were being prepared. Yeah, yeah, years ahead of time.

1435
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:34,359
They were having experiences and so forth. We're hearing kind

1436
01:22:34,399 --> 01:22:37,760
of a buzzing noise when they saw the children speaking

1437
01:22:37,800 --> 01:22:40,479
to the Virgin, even though they could not see the

1438
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:44,920
apparition and the entity whatever it was, which is another

1439
01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:50,279
connection with with UFOs and paranola phenomena. So again you

1440
01:22:50,359 --> 01:22:52,760
get and you know a lot of it was like

1441
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:55,960
you say, if you divorced the religious aspect, it was

1442
01:22:56,079 --> 01:22:58,720
like a UFO overhead.

1443
01:22:58,840 --> 01:22:59,319
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

1444
01:23:00,159 --> 01:23:04,439
Speaker 5: So again, you know, how do we sort sift through

1445
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:07,439
this and decide what is objectively real and true?

1446
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:07,680
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1447
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:10,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you have to have like controlled experiments or something.

1448
01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 3: Right.

1449
01:23:12,079 --> 01:23:15,159
Speaker 4: Is it possible that a crowd that large could, since

1450
01:23:15,159 --> 01:23:18,199
they were going there to expect to see something or

1451
01:23:18,239 --> 01:23:21,880
hopefully or pray for it, prayfully to see something, can

1452
01:23:22,199 --> 01:23:26,840
manifest some image and all that energy from all these

1453
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:33,560
people could bring forth our Lady of Fatima just from energy.

1454
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:36,119
Speaker 3: Well yeah, but there were so many there were non

1455
01:23:36,159 --> 01:23:39,199
believers in that crowd, of which is you know, people

1456
01:23:39,239 --> 01:23:43,000
who would be hard to convince, and they convince them. Plus,

1457
01:23:43,039 --> 01:23:45,319
you know, if you could take the combined energy of

1458
01:23:45,399 --> 01:23:49,600
thirty thousand people and you don't transferment into something, the

1459
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:52,560
red size would be such losers. Oh hang on.

1460
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:58,720
Speaker 5: Well, you know, interestingly enough, Joe mcmonagall, one of the

1461
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:03,880
famous remote viewers military remote viewers, was given Fatoma as

1462
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:08,680
a blind target. He saw a meteor streaking across the

1463
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:11,600
sky and actually blowing up before it hit the ground.

1464
01:24:12,039 --> 01:24:14,039
But the thing is, even if that's the case, and

1465
01:24:14,079 --> 01:24:19,319
then even if that created some of the the visual phenomena, Uh,

1466
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:23,199
this was predicted. The children were told ahead of time

1467
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:26,399
because there was something extraordinary going to happen on this date.

1468
01:24:28,159 --> 01:24:30,800
Was it a meteor blowing up? That was the the

1469
01:24:30,880 --> 01:24:35,079
you know prediction? And then why all the the other

1470
01:24:35,359 --> 01:24:38,920
you know, the the projections of the vision married you know,

1471
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:42,720
we had. Bernardette had a similar experience where she was

1472
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:48,039
talking supposedly to the lady. There are many many instances

1473
01:24:48,119 --> 01:24:51,760
where uh, it's goot Rogo deals with us too. The

1474
01:24:52,039 --> 01:24:54,279
visions of the of the Virgin Mary. He thinks some

1475
01:24:54,359 --> 01:24:59,199
of them may be wish fulfillment, and they, I guess

1476
01:24:59,199 --> 01:25:03,800
they off appear in countries where the belief in the

1477
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:07,880
Virgin Mary is more prominent than the place you might manifest.

1478
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:13,399
Speaker 3: Have here Magiagori. It's in Yugoslavia, the old Yugoslavia, Pvegigori,

1479
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:17,159
and it's a it's a small chapel up in the hills.

1480
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:21,199
I'm thinking probably in what you would call Serbia these days.

1481
01:25:22,119 --> 01:25:25,880
Same thing. Three children, two girls and a guy were

1482
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:28,520
told to go to this place at a certain time

1483
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:32,319
and you will see the virgin. And the thing is

1484
01:25:32,319 --> 01:25:34,880
that this is fairly recently, so they have value of

1485
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:38,600
these kids, and no one else can see her about them.

1486
01:25:39,199 --> 01:25:44,359
But when she arrives, they all three of them just

1487
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:48,119
go to their knees in an instant. You couldn't, you

1488
01:25:48,199 --> 01:25:52,680
couldn't choreographic better boom, They're down and they're just looking

1489
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:56,239
up at the space in the corner and having these conversations.

1490
01:25:56,600 --> 01:26:02,319
Very strange, madgrigory. Anyway, we're going to get of switchy.

1491
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:05,600
Speaker 5: Wow, even club is clapping.

1492
01:26:05,319 --> 01:26:08,800
Speaker 3: Even club is clapping, is like an old video.

1493
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:13,199
Speaker 5: You're running want to yeah.

1494
01:26:12,640 --> 01:26:14,760
Speaker 4: Switches like the new Pope of the show. Here's the

1495
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:19,119
new pop delivering all the religious manifestations.

1496
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:19,840
Speaker 3: Right, yes, the new pop.

1497
01:26:20,079 --> 01:26:22,279
Speaker 5: We're going to get to the could you even speak Latin?

1498
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:24,800
Speaker 3: Really? And you well.

1499
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:32,720
Speaker 5: Eaturbs known illegitimate cover? Yeah that's too. Don't let the

1500
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:34,279
bastards where you're down about?

1501
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:39,159
Speaker 3: How about Mika, Mika power Stella? What's that mean? Twinkle

1502
01:26:39,159 --> 01:26:40,119
Twinkle little star?

1503
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:45,680
Speaker 4: About what's I took two years of Latin in in

1504
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:47,399
high school, and that's about as far as I got.

1505
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:52,119
Rather than translating Sela's Caesars Gallic Wars one, can you

1506
01:26:52,159 --> 01:26:55,399
stand up and re translate the next two paragraphs?

1507
01:26:56,720 --> 01:26:56,880
Speaker 7: Uh?

1508
01:26:58,279 --> 01:26:58,960
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1509
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:02,039
Speaker 4: For a while I was like Beavis and Buttthead during

1510
01:27:02,039 --> 01:27:04,359
that during that class.

1511
01:27:04,079 --> 01:27:06,079
Speaker 3: You know what God's telephone numbers?

1512
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:07,960
Speaker 2: No?

1513
01:27:08,199 --> 01:27:13,520
Speaker 3: Anyone a comspirait too too low? Okay? On that note,

1514
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:17,359
let's leave them laughing and go to a commercial and

1515
01:27:17,720 --> 01:27:20,159
we'll be right back after this. You're listening to Macloney's

1516
01:27:20,239 --> 01:27:23,000
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1517
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1531
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1540
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Speaker 4: And I just kept going on and on about myself.

1547
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:08,520
I'm taking a leak in the driveway. Just I know

1548
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:11,439
you'd like to talk to total stranger. The story has

1549
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:13,239
got nothing to do with the Bruins game. It's what

1550
01:29:13,319 --> 01:29:16,039
happened with Grandma. I was wondering if those were shadow

1551
01:29:16,119 --> 01:29:17,560
mesocism straps or something.

1552
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:22,239
Speaker 3: But I digress from what I don't know.

1553
01:29:22,359 --> 01:29:25,760
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1555
01:30:08,399 --> 01:30:15,159
Speaker 3: Wow, welcome back, and went to Macloney's Military Sauce Show.

1556
01:30:15,199 --> 01:30:17,840
Here in the Distant Thunder Radio Network, This is Mac

1557
01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:23,119
and Roney. What a show this has been tonight. Let

1558
01:30:23,199 --> 01:30:26,239
me introduce the co conscurrat just real quick, girls. One

1559
01:30:26,359 --> 01:30:27,039
one is here.

1560
01:30:28,159 --> 01:30:31,560
Speaker 4: Hello everybody, Hello girls, Welcome back to the show. It's

1561
01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:32,920
been a good one. It's been kind of fun.

1562
01:30:33,319 --> 01:30:40,760
Speaker 3: Be lovers. Uncle Al is here. Okay, yeah, I'm sorry.

1563
01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:52,199
He's buzzy. He's buzz Get it. Also, Switchblade Steve is here. Switchy, Switchy,

1564
01:30:52,279 --> 01:30:55,079
come in, Switchy, turn on your microphone. Eight years that pom.

1565
01:30:57,640 --> 01:31:01,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was coughing, because if I coughed over your intro,

1566
01:31:02,359 --> 01:31:03,359
I'd be uh, you.

1567
01:31:03,319 --> 01:31:09,199
Speaker 6: Know, excuriated, excuriated or excommunicated for.

1568
01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:12,920
Speaker 4: All of those things beginning with X Latin means out,

1569
01:31:13,079 --> 01:31:14,840
hence the word exit exit.

1570
01:31:16,479 --> 01:31:20,279
Speaker 3: Great to be here anyway, either way, what did you

1571
01:31:20,319 --> 01:31:22,159
use the show in Latin one of these days? Yeah,

1572
01:31:22,199 --> 01:31:24,640
that'd be good. That'd be a great idea. Why didn't

1573
01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:28,600
we do it in pig Latin? That'd be more likely.

1574
01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:37,039
XN on me yet on the la switchy very quickly.

1575
01:31:37,039 --> 01:31:40,079
What you have a breakfast for a diead fans?

1576
01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:42,199
Speaker 5: Well, I actually had a brunch. I want to do

1577
01:31:42,239 --> 01:31:46,760
something different, so I went to Tuscany restaurant, Italian restaurant.

1578
01:31:47,199 --> 01:31:50,800
I had a ribbi. I had a baked potato with butter.

1579
01:31:51,199 --> 01:31:52,920
Speaker 3: Nothing Italian. Yeah, give you some kind.

1580
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:55,960
Speaker 5: Of funky like flat bread with stuff you can. I

1581
01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:57,800
had one piece of it. It was good, but I

1582
01:31:57,800 --> 01:32:01,680
didn't want to fill up, you know, I needed to steak.

1583
01:32:02,760 --> 01:32:05,079
I had soup instead of salad. I had potato soup

1584
01:32:05,119 --> 01:32:05,600
with bacon.

1585
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:08,399
Speaker 3: Oh well that sounded really a So.

1586
01:32:08,760 --> 01:32:11,279
Speaker 5: I'm actually remortgaging my house to.

1587
01:32:11,239 --> 01:32:14,800
Speaker 3: Pay for it. Okay, yes, Bill, say okay, but your

1588
01:32:14,800 --> 01:32:17,279
struggle for it. That ribby did you good? It's a

1589
01:32:17,319 --> 01:32:18,840
way to build both good.

1590
01:32:18,920 --> 01:32:22,039
Speaker 5: Yeah, I usually don't. That's actually the same place that

1591
01:32:22,119 --> 01:32:25,720
Susan and I went to when she visited some time ago.

1592
01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:29,399
So it's a nice, nice little place, good food. I

1593
01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:33,119
never I just I almost never. That's only the second

1594
01:32:33,119 --> 01:32:35,720
time I've gone out to get, you know, a good

1595
01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:39,920
steak alone. I always go with people steak for some reason.

1596
01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:42,319
I don't count the country fried steak.

1597
01:32:43,359 --> 01:32:46,840
Speaker 3: No, no one does. Yeah, okay, switching what did what

1598
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:50,199
did Curly say? I'd rather have a was it a

1599
01:32:50,239 --> 01:32:53,720
hot steak than a cold chop? Since we you know,

1600
01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:56,479
we were talking about the three steage are inside.

1601
01:32:56,880 --> 01:33:01,199
Speaker 5: That's my background here. I can't see what's on the book,

1602
01:33:01,199 --> 01:33:03,319
but it says the truth about UFOs.

1603
01:33:03,399 --> 01:33:07,640
Speaker 3: Oh really yeah, okay, it's very interesting. Also with US

1604
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:13,560
is our head security chief, International senior, et cetera. Willie Club?

1605
01:33:13,880 --> 01:33:18,880
Speaker 9: Really, hey, mag I'm having a good time tonight the store.

1606
01:33:19,000 --> 01:33:22,159
I have to listen to you know, our friends, which

1607
01:33:22,239 --> 01:33:25,319
you talk about those rabbis and Hooters. Yes, I never

1608
01:33:25,399 --> 01:33:28,640
thought I had there once and I just couldn't get

1609
01:33:28,640 --> 01:33:29,039
it down.

1610
01:33:30,239 --> 01:33:36,039
Speaker 4: Come on, Jesus, but seriously, folks, what is it about Hooters?

1611
01:33:37,159 --> 01:33:40,319
Speaker 8: Well, well, that's that's Richie's favorite place.

1612
01:33:41,039 --> 01:33:43,079
Speaker 4: What is it what is about that part of the

1613
01:33:43,119 --> 01:33:47,119
anatomy that is so fascinating rich Well?

1614
01:33:47,159 --> 01:33:49,039
Speaker 3: Only a two hours show here, Ronnie.

1615
01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:51,439
Speaker 4: Because I even asked myself that question.

1616
01:33:52,199 --> 01:34:01,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't we all all right, listen, let's just move on. Okay. Also, wow,

1617
01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:06,359
that's from the past. Stained a good name for a ben.

1618
01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:12,279
Also with us pillows, is you used to work in

1619
01:34:12,319 --> 01:34:16,920
a pillow factor? Okay, sticks with you? That could be

1620
01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:21,760
the name of a strip club, the pillow Factory. Yeah, okay,

1621
01:34:22,439 --> 01:34:26,319
we gotta move on. San thanks to joined us. Susan

1622
01:34:26,399 --> 01:34:27,760
k down there in North Carolina.

1623
01:34:29,039 --> 01:34:30,640
Speaker 5: Everybody, Hello Susan.

1624
01:34:31,039 --> 01:34:31,560
Speaker 10: Great show.

1625
01:34:33,039 --> 01:34:38,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's not quite over. Time to screw it up.

1626
01:34:40,199 --> 01:34:44,840
Also with us is our good friend Kim Shay up

1627
01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:47,159
and uh, I you know I'm going out on what on? Kim?

1628
01:34:47,159 --> 01:34:48,319
How are you up in Edmonton?

1629
01:34:49,000 --> 01:34:51,600
Speaker 1: I'm doing great just listening to this. This gives me

1630
01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:54,159
a smile and I got a good laugh. I'm just

1631
01:34:54,199 --> 01:34:56,640
glad to contribute my little bit to a whole bunch

1632
01:34:56,680 --> 01:34:59,039
of experts. Every time I come on, I learned.

1633
01:34:58,800 --> 01:35:04,760
Speaker 3: Something experts interesting. Okay. Also with us, thank him he

1634
01:35:04,880 --> 01:35:07,880
is a good friend. Up there in Wisconsin, Brandy Axe.

1635
01:35:07,680 --> 01:35:11,000
Speaker 7: Brandy, Hello, and what a great show.

1636
01:35:11,960 --> 01:35:17,319
Speaker 3: Okay, Well so far, so well here and I've introduced

1637
01:35:17,319 --> 01:35:22,199
everyone I think right yep? Uh so Brandy you report

1638
01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:28,279
club for us? Yeah, introduced club. Yeah. Yeah, he was

1639
01:35:29,199 --> 01:35:34,000
having a ball. And we've over the you're a corresponding

1640
01:35:34,079 --> 01:35:38,039
in you know, with a paranormal and the religious kind

1641
01:35:38,039 --> 01:35:41,640
of meat, and we've done things like the stigma or

1642
01:35:41,680 --> 01:35:44,880
and things like that, but this one I've actually seen

1643
01:35:45,159 --> 01:35:50,000
kind of for myself. So speaking in tongues, h please

1644
01:35:50,039 --> 01:35:51,319
tell us what that's about? Please?

1645
01:35:52,039 --> 01:35:56,760
Speaker 7: Okay, it probably sounds like you something you think you

1646
01:35:56,880 --> 01:35:59,640
know what it is, but I thought I did, and

1647
01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:02,840
I realized I don't. So there's way more to it

1648
01:36:02,920 --> 01:36:08,680
than what you think there is. So I use some

1649
01:36:08,800 --> 01:36:13,359
online resources for this, some Catholic and Protestant articles and sites.

1650
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:17,920
I looked at the Bible and listen to a couple

1651
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:24,399
religious podcasts. So speaking in tongues is also called glassalalia.

1652
01:36:25,279 --> 01:36:29,560
That's from the Greek. It has actually been around for

1653
01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:33,439
thousands of years, and according to the Bible, it is

1654
01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:39,279
the gift of spiritual intervention that grants a speaker the

1655
01:36:39,319 --> 01:36:43,439
ability to communicate by means of a previously unknown and

1656
01:36:43,680 --> 01:36:51,800
unlearned language through supernatural means. There are differing beliefs even

1657
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:56,640
within Christianity as to whether or not speaking in tongues

1658
01:36:56,760 --> 01:37:01,960
refers to speaking a known language, which is one that

1659
01:37:02,479 --> 01:37:08,479
you've never learned, or one that the listeners know but

1660
01:37:08,640 --> 01:37:13,680
that's not what you're speaking, or whether it is an

1661
01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:18,439
unintelligible language that sounds like it should be but that

1662
01:37:18,640 --> 01:37:22,239
really isn't a language at all and doesn't have any

1663
01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:27,199
extrinsic meaning, but only means something emotional to the speaker.

1664
01:37:29,199 --> 01:37:34,199
So both are of supernatural origin though, and both reference

1665
01:37:34,319 --> 01:37:39,479
the biblical account of Pentecost, which in the Christian faith

1666
01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:44,000
we just had last weekend, and that is an event

1667
01:37:44,479 --> 01:37:49,319
that is talked about in the or the Book of Acts,

1668
01:37:49,399 --> 01:37:53,159
and it commemorates an event that happened fifty days after

1669
01:37:53,359 --> 01:37:59,720
Easter when Jesus's apostles were all gathered in Jerusalem and

1670
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:05,319
a rush of like a wind of the Holy Spirit

1671
01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:10,600
came upon them, and they all began speaking in other languages,

1672
01:38:11,760 --> 01:38:15,319
or they were speaking in their own languages, but all

1673
01:38:15,359 --> 01:38:19,800
of the people gathered there from all over that part

1674
01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:24,479
of the world that spoke different languages, each heard their

1675
01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:30,119
speech in their own language. So the apostles were speaking

1676
01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:33,520
one language, but everybody was hearing it in their own language.

1677
01:38:33,560 --> 01:38:35,520
Speaker 3: Wow, that's very strange.

1678
01:38:36,760 --> 01:38:40,840
Speaker 7: And so they attribute this to the Holy Spirit. But

1679
01:38:41,119 --> 01:38:43,840
them being so filled with the Holy Spirit that they

1680
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:49,039
were able to communicate Jesus's message to everyone even though

1681
01:38:49,159 --> 01:38:54,920
they didn't know their languages. So it is recognized by

1682
01:38:54,920 --> 01:39:00,520
the Church as being a supernatural experience, kind of like

1683
01:39:01,840 --> 01:39:05,199
when there's a possession and a demon is speaking an

1684
01:39:05,319 --> 01:39:10,079
unknown language through the possessed person. This is kind of

1685
01:39:10,119 --> 01:39:13,720
the flip side, where the Holy Spirit is speaking an

1686
01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:20,279
unknown language through a person. So it turns out that

1687
01:39:20,319 --> 01:39:26,359
there are multiple ways of interpreting this phenomena, and I

1688
01:39:26,560 --> 01:39:29,279
kind of looked at two of them. One is called

1689
01:39:30,079 --> 01:39:34,079
apostolic speaking in tongues and one is called Charismatics speaking

1690
01:39:34,119 --> 01:39:37,119
in tongues. So I'm going to start with an apostolic

1691
01:39:38,680 --> 01:39:42,399
and that is what is recognized by the Catholic Faith

1692
01:39:43,640 --> 01:39:47,800
as either speaking in your own language and being heard

1693
01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:52,279
by others of other languages in their own language, or

1694
01:39:52,479 --> 01:39:56,000
by spontaneously speaking in a language that you don't know

1695
01:39:56,800 --> 01:39:59,640
in order to give the message of Jesus.

1696
01:40:00,960 --> 01:40:01,760
Speaker 3: Strange.

1697
01:40:02,079 --> 01:40:07,359
Speaker 7: There are multiple saints that had this ability to speak

1698
01:40:07,399 --> 01:40:13,279
in tongues and address people in a different language. Saint Dominic,

1699
01:40:13,359 --> 01:40:16,920
the founder of the Dominican Order, was in Germany and

1700
01:40:16,960 --> 01:40:18,960
he couldn't get through to the people there. He didn't

1701
01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:22,680
know the German language, and so he prayed that he

1702
01:40:22,720 --> 01:40:26,199
would be able to pass Jesus's message, and the next

1703
01:40:26,319 --> 01:40:30,520
day he spoke in fluent German and got the message

1704
01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:35,199
of Jesus across to the people of Germany. Saint Anthony

1705
01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:39,720
of Padua was once preaching to the Pope, and there

1706
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:44,560
were cardinals from Greece and Italy, Germany, England, all these countries,

1707
01:40:44,600 --> 01:40:48,039
each with their own language, and he was so inspired

1708
01:40:48,039 --> 01:40:51,399
by the Holy Spirit that he was able to relate

1709
01:40:51,439 --> 01:40:55,520
the Word of God so well that everyone there understood

1710
01:40:55,600 --> 01:40:59,479
him as if they were hearing their own language. They

1711
01:40:59,520 --> 01:41:03,560
all belie believed that that was a renewed miracle of

1712
01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:08,279
the Pentecost, and it deepened their devotion, just like it

1713
01:41:08,359 --> 01:41:13,439
did for the people at the original Pentecost. And Saint

1714
01:41:13,439 --> 01:41:17,920
Anthony was also reported to have spoken French spontaneously when

1715
01:41:17,960 --> 01:41:21,479
he was in France and Italian when he was in Italy,

1716
01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:25,479
even though he didn't know either of those languages, supposedly,

1717
01:41:26,560 --> 01:41:30,920
and another strange aspect of the Apostolic speaking in tongues

1718
01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:37,520
is that the speaker can sometimes be heard across extraordinary distances,

1719
01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:43,159
where normal preaching speech wouldn't usually reach sure. And this

1720
01:41:43,319 --> 01:41:46,199
was the case with Saint Anthony when he was preaching,

1721
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:49,399
and it was also the case with Saint Paul of

1722
01:41:49,439 --> 01:41:54,000
the Cross, who was considered to be gifted with speaking

1723
01:41:54,039 --> 01:41:58,960
in tongues. And on one occasion when he was preaching

1724
01:41:59,000 --> 01:42:02,840
in his usual voice, he was heard reportedly from five

1725
01:42:02,920 --> 01:42:07,399
miles away giving message, and he was also understood in

1726
01:42:07,520 --> 01:42:10,960
multiple languages while he was speaking Italian.

1727
01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:12,159
Speaker 3: Wow.

1728
01:42:12,920 --> 01:42:14,960
Speaker 7: And then there's one other person I wanted to mention

1729
01:42:15,399 --> 01:42:19,399
regarding this, and that is Teresa Neuman. And she was

1730
01:42:19,479 --> 01:42:23,600
the early twentieth century Bavarian girl who we mentioned in

1731
01:42:23,640 --> 01:42:27,399
the Stigmata report who grew up on a farm and

1732
01:42:27,560 --> 01:42:32,319
was uneducated. She was believed to have the gift of

1733
01:42:32,359 --> 01:42:36,079
speaking in tongues because she would go into these ecstasies

1734
01:42:36,159 --> 01:42:39,520
and while she was in them, and then afterward she

1735
01:42:39,720 --> 01:42:44,039
was able to speak in Greek, in Latin, and Hebrew

1736
01:42:44,680 --> 01:42:49,399
and in perfect Aramaic, the language of Jesus. Even though

1737
01:42:49,479 --> 01:42:53,439
she I mean, she was uneducated, she didn't know all

1738
01:42:53,479 --> 01:42:59,359
these languages, and multiple schools, universities came to her to

1739
01:42:59,439 --> 01:43:04,960
study her, to study the speech, and it was she

1740
01:43:05,119 --> 01:43:08,960
was recognized as a miracle because she was. They all

1741
01:43:09,039 --> 01:43:14,359
said this is correct whatever correct, Greek, correct, Hebrew right,

1742
01:43:15,279 --> 01:43:19,199
and nobody had an explanation for how she knew these languages.

1743
01:43:21,239 --> 01:43:25,000
Speaker 3: Let me just can I interject real quick here? What

1744
01:43:25,840 --> 01:43:28,359
think about it for a second. What could possibly be

1745
01:43:28,479 --> 01:43:32,600
at play here that someone who can't speak something like

1746
01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:37,840
Aramaic or a foreign language, no matter what it is,

1747
01:43:38,279 --> 01:43:40,000
Why would you or all of a sudden, be able

1748
01:43:40,079 --> 01:43:42,279
to speak it? You know what I mean. It's not

1749
01:43:42,439 --> 01:43:45,600
something that is in the air. You didn't grow up

1750
01:43:45,640 --> 01:43:50,199
around it, you know, you didn't hear anyone else speaking what? Yeah,

1751
01:43:50,279 --> 01:43:52,520
what could make you speak that? If you're if you

1752
01:43:52,560 --> 01:43:54,119
have not been exposed to it.

1753
01:43:55,039 --> 01:43:59,039
Speaker 7: Well I'm going to get into that, but I'll say

1754
01:43:59,119 --> 01:44:07,000
right now that you know, the believers, you know, attribute

1755
01:44:07,000 --> 01:44:09,760
it to the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is speaking

1756
01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:14,079
through you, so it's not really you. You're just the vessel.

1757
01:44:14,199 --> 01:44:16,600
And the Holy Spirit of course knows everything. So the

1758
01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:20,039
Holy Spirit knows those languages. But you know, when I

1759
01:44:20,079 --> 01:44:25,000
was researching this, I was thinking about Edgar Casey, who

1760
01:44:25,079 --> 01:44:30,840
was a twentieth century prophet and healer, and he was

1761
01:44:30,840 --> 01:44:35,239
called the Sleeping Prophet because he supposedly could sleep on

1762
01:44:35,279 --> 01:44:38,439
a book, I mean sleep with a book under his pillow,

1763
01:44:38,840 --> 01:44:41,680
and then know the book the next day down to

1764
01:44:42,439 --> 01:44:48,159
what happened on page thirty, paragraph two. And so he

1765
01:44:48,279 --> 01:44:51,840
was able also to heal people in a kind of

1766
01:44:51,840 --> 01:44:56,880
a sleep trance. He was able to diagnose and heal people.

1767
01:44:57,039 --> 01:45:02,079
And the thought was that during these kind of I

1768
01:45:02,119 --> 01:45:04,119
don't want to say out of body, he wasn't in

1769
01:45:04,159 --> 01:45:08,680
an ecstasy, but he was not in a waking conscious state,

1770
01:45:09,279 --> 01:45:11,479
and he was able to tap into some kind of

1771
01:45:11,600 --> 01:45:16,479
collective unconscious is the theory, and so he was able

1772
01:45:16,560 --> 01:45:19,840
to know these learn these things, know these things, and

1773
01:45:19,960 --> 01:45:24,159
help people the way he did. So maybe that could

1774
01:45:24,199 --> 01:45:26,239
be part of this too, you know, if there's a

1775
01:45:26,399 --> 01:45:29,319
if there is and some kind of Akashic records or

1776
01:45:29,359 --> 01:45:33,520
collective consciousness or something where you can just kind of

1777
01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:35,319
visit there and pull out these.

1778
01:45:35,239 --> 01:45:36,359
Speaker 3: Languages tap into it.

1779
01:45:36,479 --> 01:45:40,119
Speaker 7: Yeah, maybe that's what's going on. I'm not.

1780
01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:44,039
Speaker 3: Wow. I mean there are out theories, There are out

1781
01:45:44,079 --> 01:45:49,399
theories that everything there is to know is out there. Okay,

1782
01:45:49,479 --> 01:45:51,520
you just have to know how to tap into it,

1783
01:45:51,920 --> 01:45:54,439
you know, you just have to know how to train

1784
01:45:54,520 --> 01:45:58,520
your mind to do it. Now, if that is true,

1785
01:45:59,039 --> 01:46:01,800
I mean, there's instance is where yeah, we hear about

1786
01:46:01,800 --> 01:46:04,119
you know, people going into the triangle and make them

1787
01:46:04,159 --> 01:46:07,680
out as smart as they'd be a cosmonon, you know,

1788
01:46:07,800 --> 01:46:10,680
in two years or something like that. So it almost

1789
01:46:10,720 --> 01:46:13,560
seems like that's true. Also. The other thing that kind

1790
01:46:13,560 --> 01:46:15,479
of convinced me that is, I go back to this

1791
01:46:15,520 --> 01:46:17,520
a lot is every once in a while you'll see

1792
01:46:17,560 --> 01:46:23,000
these kids from Japan, they're four years old and then

1793
01:46:23,039 --> 01:46:25,600
playing Beethoven for you know, an hour and a half.

1794
01:46:25,920 --> 01:46:28,560
And he said, how does that happen? It's it's it's

1795
01:46:28,600 --> 01:46:32,880
almost impossible unless this idea that you can kind of

1796
01:46:32,920 --> 01:46:34,920
tap into, it's out there anyway, you just got to

1797
01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:35,319
find it.

1798
01:46:35,359 --> 01:46:41,359
Speaker 7: Go ahead, Brandy, Yeah, right, good example. I'm going to

1799
01:46:41,680 --> 01:46:43,760
get into the charismatic.

1800
01:46:43,520 --> 01:46:44,319
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, sure.

1801
01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:52,079
Speaker 7: That is when an unintelligible language is kind of I

1802
01:46:52,079 --> 01:46:56,399
guess spoken by the faithful when they're in ecstasy of

1803
01:46:56,439 --> 01:47:00,479
the Holy Spirit. And it has only really been recordganized

1804
01:47:00,640 --> 01:47:05,520
in this way by the Pentecostal Order and other denominations

1805
01:47:06,119 --> 01:47:09,199
for about one hundred and twenty years, and it was

1806
01:47:09,319 --> 01:47:13,239
first witnessed at kind of a makeshift Revivalist church in

1807
01:47:13,279 --> 01:47:20,119
Los Angeles and castor there was really into the pentecost

1808
01:47:20,319 --> 01:47:23,319
and the gift of speaking in tongues, and his message

1809
01:47:23,479 --> 01:47:27,279
was that nobody was truly possessed by the Holy Spirit

1810
01:47:27,840 --> 01:47:31,199
until they had the gift of speaking in tongues. So

1811
01:47:31,239 --> 01:47:37,680
it kind of, I guess, motivated people to want to

1812
01:47:37,720 --> 01:47:39,680
speak in tongues or try to speak in tongues or

1813
01:47:39,680 --> 01:47:42,600
whatever so that they could prove that they were really

1814
01:47:42,640 --> 01:47:46,479
possessed by the Holy Spirit. And there was an emphasis

1815
01:47:46,520 --> 01:47:50,640
then on salvation through speaking in the tongues, and so

1816
01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:55,039
suddenly everybody started speaking in tongues, and then it became

1817
01:47:55,439 --> 01:47:58,399
a fact, kind of a Pentecostal.

1818
01:47:59,520 --> 01:47:59,760
Speaker 1: You know.

1819
01:48:00,439 --> 01:48:07,720
Speaker 7: So in that kind of speaking in tongues, because it

1820
01:48:07,800 --> 01:48:13,000
is a language, it's the rhythm of it is like

1821
01:48:13,079 --> 01:48:16,520
it's a language, but it is not any kind of

1822
01:48:16,640 --> 01:48:21,359
known language to anyone in the world. And a lot

1823
01:48:21,359 --> 01:48:25,039
of times or most of the time, nobody's language is

1824
01:48:25,079 --> 01:48:28,199
the same as someone else's language when they're speaking in

1825
01:48:28,239 --> 01:48:32,439
tongues this way. But it has been described as the

1826
01:48:32,560 --> 01:48:37,720
language of angels, which is not to be interpreted by people.

1827
01:48:38,520 --> 01:48:45,560
It's for kind of a collaboration between yourself and the angels.

1828
01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:49,239
But it shows that you have been filled with the

1829
01:48:49,239 --> 01:48:49,960
Holy Spirit.

1830
01:48:51,520 --> 01:48:54,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, well language angels speak. That's interesting.

1831
01:48:55,399 --> 01:49:00,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, that was that was one of the explanations. So

1832
01:49:01,000 --> 01:49:06,359
it helps to strengthen the faith of the believers and

1833
01:49:06,720 --> 01:49:12,960
it serves as a witness to the believers that there's

1834
01:49:13,199 --> 01:49:19,399
ecstasy in being filled with the Holy Spirit. So that

1835
01:49:19,640 --> 01:49:22,960
led me to, well, what does this do for you?

1836
01:49:23,039 --> 01:49:28,640
What does that do for them to speak in unintelligible languages? Okay,

1837
01:49:29,399 --> 01:49:31,600
so this is going to get a little bit esoteric,

1838
01:49:31,680 --> 01:49:34,920
but there is this three part podcast called Speaking in

1839
01:49:35,039 --> 01:49:40,319
Tongues that broke this down really well. And the Bible

1840
01:49:40,960 --> 01:49:47,720
teaches that God spoke creation into existence through divine speech,

1841
01:49:48,880 --> 01:49:54,319
and there are religious traditions where speech sounds themselves have

1842
01:49:54,520 --> 01:50:02,399
intrinsic meaning, so the actual sound means something apart from

1843
01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:06,560
the word that it's in. So when you speak in tongues,

1844
01:50:07,600 --> 01:50:13,640
the Holy Spirit is helping you to manifest everything that's

1845
01:50:13,800 --> 01:50:19,000
possible so that you can create through those sounds something

1846
01:50:19,039 --> 01:50:22,560
that maybe you're not consciously thinking of. And the thinking

1847
01:50:22,920 --> 01:50:26,039
is that if you allow your mind to produce these

1848
01:50:26,079 --> 01:50:32,159
sounds without forming an actual language, you're kind of super

1849
01:50:32,399 --> 01:50:37,720
consciously able to speak all of the possibilities or whatever

1850
01:50:37,840 --> 01:50:42,239
possibility for you into existence. And there is actually a

1851
01:50:42,239 --> 01:50:45,920
study done by the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine

1852
01:50:46,680 --> 01:50:52,199
on people who appeared to be speaking unintelligible and unknown

1853
01:50:52,319 --> 01:50:57,760
languages but that had a huge emotional impact on them

1854
01:50:57,800 --> 01:50:59,960
while they were speaking it like when they were in

1855
01:51:00,119 --> 01:51:05,239
a state of ecstasy, and the researchers recorded that during

1856
01:51:05,279 --> 01:51:08,840
this kind of speech there is decreased brain activity in

1857
01:51:08,880 --> 01:51:11,840
the frontal lobe, which is the area of the brain

1858
01:51:11,920 --> 01:51:17,359
associated with logic and self control, and brain imaging research

1859
01:51:18,119 --> 01:51:21,840
showed that the subjects were not in control of the

1860
01:51:21,960 --> 01:51:26,079
language centers during the act of speaking in tongues, which

1861
01:51:26,119 --> 01:51:30,319
matches their own perception of their lack of control in

1862
01:51:30,520 --> 01:51:34,399
their ecstatic state because they feel that they have no

1863
01:51:34,439 --> 01:51:37,920
control over what they're saying, the Holy Spirit is pulling

1864
01:51:37,960 --> 01:51:41,800
it through that Yes, in this kind of speech, the

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speaker is able to release all logical and conscious limitations

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that he has on his own language and able to

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super consciously create some kind of infinite potential through sounds.

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And the Christian believe that one way that the devil

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can manipulate us is through our own consciousness and through

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our logical thought processes like if we if we make

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a statement, then automatically as soon as we make it,

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like if I said, you know, I'm gonna paint my

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house read all of a sudden, right away part of

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my brain is thinking, yeah, but do you really want

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to do that? You know, is it gonna devalue your house?

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You're already sabotaging. And they think that that's the devil

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creeping in to limit your potential.

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Speaker 3: And so.

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Speaker 7: I passed this conscious thinking by entering this state of

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ecstasy and shutting down your language center, then the devil

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can't take control of you. And what you are saying

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is possible. Even though it's being spoken in a language

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that you don't understand, your subconscious or super consciouciousness does

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understand it. And the Holy Spirit is going to help

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you fulfill that destiny whatever it is.

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Speaker 3: Wow. Wow, Well I'm waiting for him to get me. Yes. Yes,

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and it's really crazy. Yes, go ahead. Place.

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Speaker 9: You know, individuals have been witnessed and speaking in tongues

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during near death during dying, so that is also not common,

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but it's it's certainly been witnessed many times.

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Speaker 7: It actually happened to one of my uncles. Really, he

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spoke a language that he didn't know, and I mean

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it was it was Czechoslovakian, which was his heritage. But

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he was uneducated. He hadn't hadn't even been to school,

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and hadn't heard that language spoken.

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Speaker 3: So I don't have to give it some.

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Speaker 7: Kind of remnant or something that he recalled.

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Speaker 1: But do you ever dream in another language?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Well I do, he really? Yeah, Well, but that's.

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Speaker 1: It's my like we're Norwegian, but I mean I speak

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Norwegian and I would imagine Norway. I have many dreams

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like this and it's.

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Speaker 3: Like, oh wow, wow, we get it.

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Speaker 1: I don't really get it, but it's cool because you

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think that's sometimes I think that's where'm supposed to be.

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Speaker 3: That's all. It's like Norway, she goes someplace warmer. You

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should learn how to play how to speak to Yeah,

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well listen, we can't, Brandy. Can we give you in

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a great organic round of applause? Yeah, awesome, Thank you

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very much.

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Speaker 6: In the side of the cross to as much as

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I speaking in tongues as wild when you are speaking

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in like in some of the ones you mentioned, the

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person is speaking in let's say, their language, but the

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people around them who don't speak that language are hearing.

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Speaker 3: It in their hands their language.

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Speaker 6: That's the part I mean that's even wilder then, you know, Okay,

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I'm speaking something I don't know. But for me to

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speak in something that everybody in the room interprets differently

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and understands differently, that's way beyond just speaking. Beyond that's like,

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wait a minute, how does that happen?

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Speaker 5: It's like Star Trek with the universal translation.

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Speaker 3: Exactly, switchy to bring it all around. Switch. It's time

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to put up the image.

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Speaker 5: You mean they can't, don't you.

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Speaker 3: Well listen, I want to thank Brandy. Thank you Brandy

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for that very educated, interested report speaking in tongues. Also,

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I want to think, Kim, Shay, Kim, we're doing this randomly.

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Thank you, Kim, thank you.

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Speaker 1: It was enjoyment.

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Speaker 3: It looks like a mohawk. Yeah, well, it looks like

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he's a punk mohawk if you look at him like this,

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no money, Yeah, yeah, definitely punk mohawk. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You know, you know, Timothy Leary and Cohen did all

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those studies on LSD out of Berkeley, Yes, and one

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of the strange aspects of what they had was people

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babbling to each other and making no sense to him,

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but to each other they would make.

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Speaker 3: Sense if they're on acid. Yeah, okay, that makes.

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Speaker 1: Sense to me anyway. I wanted to add that in

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there than you.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but they're suppressing that part of their brain, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, very yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well that idea about sounds that are it's not the word,

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it's the sound in between. It's the It's like a

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key going into a walk. It's not the key, it's

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how it moves the tumblers that opens it.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: It's a very strange thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Anyway, Wow, okay, thank you, Kim. Thank you for

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that for a while. Man, really, I'm trying to him

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along with some French tracks. Also, Susan Kay, thank you

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for joining us and for everything you do behind the scenes.

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Thank you, Susan.

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Speaker 10: It's my pleasure. Thank you so much for having me

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so much fun.

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Speaker 7: To be here.

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Speaker 3: Same for us, believe me speaking of a lot of fun. Club,

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thank you for joining us club Barrel laughs.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's been a I'd call it a learned experience

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to that I was trying to describe tonight, and I

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think learned experience.

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Speaker 3: Okay, appropriate, we'll go with that. Thank your club for

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joining us. Appreciate it. Let's see all the time. Yes, okay,

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all right, pretty good, it's okay, okay, thank you switch,

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thank you Switch, thank you Switch. Okay, thank you all

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for joining us, al go on, thanks for having me

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and one one. Thank you. We'll get dispense with the

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because we're running over time we go to dispense with

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the bumpers and the ads. Today we just want to

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say thanks for joining us. We really appreciate it. And

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this is MAX for the entire game. Until you hear

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us next time, be safely happy and and bye bye

