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Mac Maloney. We're a what a show we have a
few times. We're broadcasting live on a stop at Galley Restaurant,
fifty five Water Street, New reput mats, great seafood, great hamburgers,
and a great steak and cheese. Sammy. We have someone
to testify to that later on this show. Once can
we have I had to show for you tonight, but
let me first introduce the members of the Posse Girls
and Always here. You've been feeling I don't want to
say you've been feeling him for a week, but you've
sensed his vibe for seven rights I wish, so get
yourself so suit yourself down, start fanning yourself, hit your
big box of Kleenics, your big box of wipes. You
squeegee Andelou because he's here, the very famous Auan one.
Speaker 4: Hey, you don't need a lube when I'm around. Baby,
Hello everybody, Hello, ladies, what Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: Glad to be here? I love the new open, new
opening being called what's samartha Susan Empire of the Sun.
Speaker 4: The language police there is at already what happened? Glad
to be here? Mac is Always and it's gonna be
a fun show, that's for sure. It's got to be
wide open, hilarious.
Speaker 3: Okay, did you get a memo in there? The way
you feel?
Speaker 4: It's the way I feel. It's the vibe. Do you
feel my vibe?
Speaker 3: Everybody? Well, now there's two vibes. How many other vibes
on there? You know I'm I'm smoking. I'm like Brad Marshan,
Well there's three anyway.
Speaker 4: I'm setting I'll be setting a record.
Speaker 3: Thank you one one for joining us tonight.
Speaker 4: We love Brad, don't we?
Speaker 3: We used to?
Speaker 4: Well, you can't hate the guy now.
Speaker 3: By talk about Bron Manshan who played for the Bruins
for a long long time. They really didn't do anything.
He goes to Florida and now he's in the middle
of the Stanley Cup.
Speaker 5: FI.
Speaker 4: How many times does that happen when somebody leaves the
Bruins and all of a sudden there was a superstar.
Speaker 3: Well you know that's how it goes. Anyway, Also with
us in our mobile studio here at the Stopping Galley,
as a producer, engineer, bee keeper, I guess.
Speaker 6: That's a change. Wow, I was. I was a mass murderer.
Now I'm a bee keeper.
Speaker 3: Only because one of them got Mike the other day
and I didn't know it until I was on eighty
miles an odd on the turnpike. So you turned around
and brought it home, right, Yes, I did, of course
I did. And a little uh had a little A
on it, so I knew it was Ugies, it had
a brand. Yeah, So uh, how's things were you there?
Speaker 7: Now?
Speaker 3: Oh? Just great? Can't beat it.
Speaker 6: You know, it's been fifty seven degrees for the past
couple of days.
Speaker 3: Yeah, rainy, cold, windy. It really was like we're in
England ever since one ever since I came by.
Speaker 4: We'd been English, well, thirteen weekends in a row with
rain on Saturday, with rain on Saturday. Yeah, not to
mention rain during the middle of the week too.
Speaker 6: Right, right, and we're having another rainy weekend coming out,
so here it comes. Yeah, yeah, so it's going to
be fourteen right anyway. Yep. So yeah, that's what's well.
Thank you one one for bringing the atmosphere disturbations. Also
with US is international correspondent down there in my sister's tank,
West Virginia Switchblade, Steve Ward switchy, Did you mean.
Speaker 5: To say the very famous switch flake?
Speaker 3: I guess I did. Yes, right, Get right on that
microphone while you're there, jump, Get right on that baby,
Get right on that microphone. But then it's an ice
cream or something.
Speaker 5: It doesn't look like vanilla ice cream.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right? So, uh, Switchy. Today we had a
little communication breakdown because when I speak texts the switch
for some reason, instead of saying hey, switchy, it says
hey sweetie, And so inter paining the acid is to
change thy words at the top of a text. You know.
They just did the talent that, so I send it
to him.
Speaker 5: I responded and called him sugar plumb.
Speaker 3: There we go, see see what happens, you know, And
then it went all there from that point to me
telling him, don't worry. There's a cat lady out there
for you somewhere. Switch. Don't worry. I'll give up. Hope.
Speaker 5: We did have a breakdown of communication, and it's a
good thing. We don't work for the u N, the
u N, the u N, you know, United Nations.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's still around.
Speaker 5: What's going on with that communication breakdown?
Speaker 7: There?
Speaker 3: At least they be doing something also with us as
our international security senior also with us as our senior
international security chief. Willie Club, you got that.
Speaker 5: Right, the very famous Willy Club.
Speaker 3: No, hey, come down, So how are you there? Club?
Speaker 8: I'll tell you I'm excellent.
Speaker 9: I really want to have a lot of issues with
this time of year, with the allergies.
Speaker 8: As you can hear, it's brutal.
Speaker 9: But you know the good thing about the rain is
that it puts a lot of that stuff down the drain.
So oh, this time of the year, I look forward
to rain. I look so forward to We had four
inches the other night. Hang on, right, yeah, so anyways, Yeah,
I'm doing just the way I want to be.
Speaker 3: Good, just the way you want to be. That's good.
You don't look like because he's not wearing something white tonight.
He doesn't look priestley. Is it just me or no?
Speaker 8: I wanted to look more normal?
Speaker 3: No? Normal? Yes, okay, that's good. Well, mission accomplished.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he doesn't look like the pope who was about
to get undressed.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, you know what, never mind, never mind. You
see that pope. You see they get a picture of
him at a Chicago White Sox game in two thousand
and four. Yeah, when they were in the I guess
they were in the playoffs in one game? Is something
he was there? Didn't do them much good then? On? No,
also with us is a good friend down there in
North Carolina, Susan, Kay, how are you? I was going
to say America's sweetheart, but I think you're better than
that the universe sweetheart. How are you okay? What's going
on up.
Speaker 10: At the top better than when I'm here with you?
Speaker 3: Oh? Wow? Okay? What's going on at the top of
that tower you have behind you? Is there any Is
there an animal up there sleeping? A cat is sleeping? Wow?
Well the chance, Thank you, Susan.
Speaker 10: There's another one.
Speaker 3: Look at this?
Speaker 4: Why wow, it's a regular cat house.
Speaker 3: Had that set up?
Speaker 10: I've taught Switch everything he knows about. I always told
him once you have to What's I mean?
Speaker 5: Come on?
Speaker 3: Wow? Okay? What happened to you?
Speaker 4: When Bill Haley and the comments did the song Go
Cat Go, they were thinking of you.
Speaker 3: You too?
Speaker 10: If I may say, Kim, I'm digging the James Dean hairstyle.
Speaker 2: One.
Speaker 3: Oh we got to get to Kim. Yeah he's too.
But let's talk for to a good friend up there
in Wisconsin. We didn't change her duo. I don't think
so is Brandy X Brandy? How are you?
Speaker 7: I am great to be here. I'm so happy that
one one's back.
Speaker 3: Oh good, she's got a box?
Speaker 4: Is that a full box? We heard you're gonna need it.
Speaker 3: Okay, wow, okay, if you need it out there, imagine
what we need.
Speaker 4: Do you have a kringle handy? Because I need a slice?
Wicked bat?
Speaker 7: I had a slice today, did.
Speaker 3: You I did?
Speaker 4: What type of what type of kringle did you have?
Speaker 7: It was cream cheese and cherry pieces of cherry?
Speaker 3: Saw that move. Explain what a kringle is please for
us that we don't know.
Speaker 7: Is a very light and flaky Danish pastry that it's
it's big, and it's got some kind of fruit, like
a fruit sauce in it kind of and may or
may not have cream cheese and then has icing on
the top of it.
Speaker 10: Slice.
Speaker 4: There's a number of different varieties mac of kringles, and
it's arranged like in a circle.
Speaker 3: It's like like a coffee.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a there's a big hole in the middle
and you just slice a piece and then you slice
another piece and then you say, okay, just one more piece.
I see the next thing, you know, half of it's gone,
and you say, what happened? I cringle more because you're
addicted to it. And that's what happens to me every
time I get a kringle. Can you get them around here?
Have you looked into it? I did look into it
and you got to get a mail order. They they
do ship them frozen, right, yeah, all right, there we go,
nice delivery stuff.
Speaker 3: Right, we'll get one. We'll get one shipped here. We'll
eat it on the air one night and we'll give
it up round.
Speaker 4: Didn't Ratings, didn't Barbara when she was in town drinkles
because for.
Speaker 3: Me maybe it's just simmy for you anyway, that's another show.
Thank you for being with us tonight, Brindy. We appreciate it.
Speaker 7: Thank you.
Speaker 3: No, also with us what all the hobbub is about?
Because this guy got a haircut or something. Something's going
on with that was a good friend up there and Edmonton,
Canada near the not Paul, Jim, Shay Kim, how are you?
Speaker 1: I'm doing fantastic, looking good and everywhere. It's a fantastic
day in Edmonton except for that whatever last night when
we won't talk about it. But no, we're kind of
on fire though. That's you smoke everywhere.
Speaker 3: It's like good or down here too.
Speaker 1: Do you guys get remnants?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, a lot of I was feeling it yesterday,
A lot.
Speaker 1: Of it's like I don't know. Like I said, go
to Thailand, Guys, go to Thailand.
Speaker 3: Thailand, Kim. They were out of the room when we
discussed that. Oh really, okay, all the countries depicted. That's
not so anyway, Kim. We're just talking a little bit
off here in on here about the Edmonton oil is.
We don't want to date the show. But theyd knee
deep in the Stanley Cup playoffs, very exciting team. The
problem is that the team they're playing is also very exciting,
and the Florida Panthers, and they're just a good team.
It's weird they are in Florida. I always think, don't
their ice melt all the time? But no one really
goes to see them.
Speaker 4: They don't practice in the summertime. Can't do it.
Speaker 3: But uh, it's a good series. But I wish Edmonton would. Yeah,
go Edmonton. We'll see what happens.
Speaker 4: It ain't over till it's over.
Speaker 3: Said anyway. So we're all here, right, did I introduce everybody? Yes?
And we have a number of different reports and stuff
like that tonight. No bits tonight, by the way, Willie,
I'm so I just want to let.
Speaker 4: You know, just because he's trivia.
Speaker 3: I know that makes him feel better. I like ta
pinch myself all night. Now that's all right, just make
sure you do it above the table. I won't be
like switch. I said two interesting things today though. First
of all, it's kind of funny because when I was
growing up, I think everyone has felt this way. It
would be funny we were will I be when they
say they've found alien life, right, you always think it's
going to be some big announcement or whatever. So there's
a thing on you know, my news feet today is
by Popular Mechanics, and then it transferred you over to
like the British Journal of Astrologists. I'm not astrology but astronomy,
and they have found a planet one hundred and twenty
four light years from Earth that fits all the profiles
of what they consider would be a habitable planet. And
the way they do it is when the sun when
when this planet is by its star, James Webb telescope
zooms in on it and they're able to see what
elements are in their atmosphere. And what's smart about them
is they don't look for two hundred and six billion elements.
They just look for four elements that they think are
essential to have it being a habitable planet. And it
hit all four really and so now you know it
takes studies, blah blah blah blah. But this one guy said,
if there was ever this is the closest we've ever
come to declaring up planet that we think is habitable.
So this is the day, I guess, you know, maybe
this will turn out to be something.
Speaker 8: But is that the one? It's a trillion miles away?
Speaker 3: Well yeah, well one hundred and twenty four light years away,
whatever that is.
Speaker 9: Miles, I thank you. We might not get there soon.
Speaker 3: See, that's the thing. And what's happening out there, that's
another weird thing is you have to think about it?
Is that? So that's that's one hundred and twenty four
light years away, So that means that what is happening
there now happened one hundred and twenty four years ago,
do you know what I mean? Yeah, And it's just
taken that light that long to get to us. So
you know who you know who knows? And there's there's
stars out there that are like tens of thousands of
light years away from us, and the light left before
the dinosaurs runner, right, you know, so it's kind of
it's it's it's just so fast to imagine. But the
James would telescope. You gotta admit, man, it's cool. It
can do stuff like that, is you know, very kind
of technologically advanced, you know. So anyway, and then the
other thing I saw today, and this might be familiar
to a lot of our listeners, is that I guess
the Wall Street Journal did some kind of a report
on UFOs. Al do you watch do you read the
Wall Street Journal? Unfortunately I missed just that issue. I
missed that.
Speaker 4: Probably someone stole it from your own. I used to
read it, but now it's like what two dollars a copy? Yeah, yeah,
it's crazy. Anyway, they did, they did a report, and
what said was that they've found out this has been
floating around for years that in the early fifties that
the Pentagon, with the CIA self, actually planted false UFO
stories in the media and dispersed them to cover up
their top secret flights of different airplanes, mostly in southern
California of course, right, and they would distribute pictures of
what they thought they're I don't know, they're probably testing
you two's maybe at the time early fifties who knows what,
and said, this is a UFO. How many people have
seen this, you know? And they knew then that they
could be spotted if people were looking at them but
thinking that they UFOs, And then the stories would appear
in the paper and they would have a way to
measure how high it could fly, how fast you could
by how many people are reporting UFOs. They also reported
that for years, and this is funny, I've never heard
of this, but for years, anyone are alive of people
coming into the Air Force were given the secret hazing
thing which they were shown a file may to sign
a non disclosure agreement, and then the file said that
there was the proof that US Air Force were reverse
engineering alien craft that were found around the world, and
they figured that tens of thousands of people believe this,
never talked about it, and it was all a hoax,
you know, once again to cover up just to screw
with people hazing. It just seems that it's a long
time to keep something like that secret. But we used
to have veterans on the show all the time that
would say I would love to say what I know,
but I can't because I've signed this NDO and I
don't want my nda, I don't want my benefits to
be screwed with. So they were always in a rock
and a hot place. We used to say, why don't
you give amnesty to all these people. Don't let them
feel threatened they lose their benefits. Have them come out
and just tell everyone what they saw. And that would
add to a lot to the UFO kind of arsenal
of what you want to investigate. But now it turns
out probably a lot of those guys are talking about
something that was a hoax.
Speaker 9: It sounds like a death bed, you know, situation where
they're now going to step up and talk because they
got nothing to lose.
Speaker 3: But if it's all, if it's all talk about, you
know that they saw this flying sauce, which we're going
to talk about later on Kim, is that supposedly, you know,
we had reverse engineered and so on and so forth,
and they believed it and they were I mean, there
were true soldiers because they didn't reveal it. But you
know what a coming way to treat your troops in
a way, you know. So anyway, those are the two stories.
They are in the Wall Street Journal today that said,
when don't we ow, And I should apologize now very
quickly for Apple podcasts, which I'm sure a lot of
people listen to us on I know they do. Last
week's show started out with an ad for I can't
believe this, an ad for a mental health call in
session where you can fill doctors in to discuss your
mental health. Perfect, okay, and then a PSA from the
State of New Hampshire to buckle up what yes, like
they can wow wow. And so I'm sorry if the
show starts off like that. There's nothing we can do
about it. Apple told us two years ago, they said,
either you run your own ads, give them to us
and we take a vig of a ten percent. In
other words, get your own ads, or we're just going
to put our ads in your free platforming. And they
just put them in without any kind of editing. They
put them in the beginning, they sometimes put in the end,
but then they'll just stick them in them the little
conversations and stuff. It's really in a conversation, yeah, really annoying,
and the not all in English, which is also weird.
And I don't know, but there's nothing we can do
about it. So I apologize, right, So why don't we
do this though, Why don't we take a quickly now
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the Beatles did like the White Album and then they
said they should have just done one album instead of two.
That's why I feel about that. However, people think it's
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at me one one like you. I think the White
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problem with the White Album is that they didn't all
play together in the same studio at the same time. Right,
they're all taking powders to going off on a off
George Harrison quit then came back. Ringo was absent without leave.
Sometimes it's like, come on, Beatles.
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it is to hide out in a mansion in France
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Speaker 3: Anyway, So thank you one one for joining us tonight.
One You're welcome, glad to be here. Also with us
is uh Al the engineer? Are they really here? Am
I really here? He's sitting away from us tonight for
some reason. There's something we don't know. You know, I'm
just trying to make it not crowded. And you you
always say you don't like the way the three of
us look like the Three Stooges in a row. So
I'm kind of like, I'm taking Curly and I'm moving
off to the side.
Speaker 5: Want a shell.
Speaker 4: I was watching the Three Stooges marathon. Well, it's on YouTube.
It's available for anybody, and it's like four continuous hours,
which it is all Curly from nineteen thirty six to
nineteen thirty nine.
Speaker 3: Early Curly. Yeah, Early Curly the best.
Speaker 4: It sounds like I've never seen it before, but it's funny.
Speaker 3: It's so funny.
Speaker 4: Some episodes am going, I lean, I don't remember seeing
that episode. Really, I thought you see them all a
dozen times.
Speaker 3: And she just fascinated. I still don't get it, Yeah,
no one, Yeah, you really going to kind of get
it to get it.
Speaker 4: You don't get the two fingers in the eye pick
pick out two.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Right.
Speaker 5: As a kid, I was watching The Three Stooges one
time and it was a bit where Curly goes and
he's drinking milk out of the caps dish and I
start cracking up and my dad looks at me like
I'm retarded hersel Oh this is my son. Yeah, the
Three Stooges. I'm better just him.
Speaker 3: Look, let me just ask you a question though. Okay,
first of all, they were almost one hundred years old.
They started those in like thirty one maybe, I mean.
And the writing is amazing, it's just yeah, it's filmed
vaudeville basically is what it is, but just the way
they did it and the sound effects just add so
much to it. And just Curly is just so crazy.
He's just he's he's never not doing something, you know,
and some stuff he's doing when he's when they try
to make you know, make them posh, they're like homeless
and they're always are like it's some ball or something.
He has a spring on him. He's dancing and he's
springing up. It's freaking hilarious. And he did all of
his own stems and stuff like that.
Speaker 5: You know what about the bits where they they're always
being served soup and there's like clams.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah yeah, how many times?
Yeah yeah?
Speaker 4: And then Curly is feeding an oyster Cracker.
Speaker 3: To we have a question from uh, the female plot
of our audience watched this, she was okay, thanks to curious.
Speaker 10: Was the Three Stooges scripted or is that all whatever?
You call it free.
Speaker 3: Form or I think they hit beer script beer scripts.
I mean a lot of them are just kind of stage,
you know, in someone's office or something like that, and
they and they do the I think they just are
we're going to do this, and you do this bit.
Speaker 4: And I thought I read something it was online. I
don't know if it was somebody that it might have
been an excerpt from the book.
Speaker 3: That Moe's daughter wrote.
Speaker 4: Oh yes, right, yeah, And I think it's mostly scripted,
but they filled in the blanks when there was like
parts of the scene where it something didn't fit or
something there wasn't a good transition to the next scene,
and they're they were just on the fly, fill in
the blank.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I think they were given a rough outline of what
they wanted right, and then when they got to a
point either it wasn't working or they decided they could
do it better, they would improvise, and they just made
they went crazy. But if you watch the Marx Brothers
l even Laarlen Hardy. You know some of the old
comedy is just I can watch.
Speaker 3: That all day.
Speaker 1: Carol Burnett Show.
Speaker 3: What Carol Burnett Show? They still show that up there?
And can it my favorite show? Oh my goodness? Really yeah?
Well I and we'll have to look into Kilm's resume
a little more.
Speaker 4: So let me like the show Dorist Day and Dinah Show.
Speaker 3: That's my speed. Oh my go dodn't even know who
I'm talking. What happened here? Let me to do someone else?
So sweets here and club is here? Club Willie Club,
Willie Club. Everything's good?
Speaker 9: Can I say, you know you talk about the Three Stooges.
If I watched four hours of the Three Stooges, I
have to go to therapy.
Speaker 3: That is therapy. No, really, you don't like the Three Stooges.
Speaker 8: If I was on drugs or something like.
Speaker 3: That, well there you go. There is a point. Then
make my case. Pick two, pick two. If people know
what that means, it's funny. Pick two. H Thank you
for wially Cup, for joining us. Susan Kay, you asked
a question earlier, we answered it. How are you I'm
doing excellent?
Speaker 10: Thank you so much for having me. It's so nice
to be here amongst all of you beautiful people.
Speaker 3: Wow. How the Hushes are Rudy Tutti and the other one.
Speaker 10: Yeah, Rudy's not doing so good?
Speaker 3: What happened ever since we did that wikibe night? Man?
He's been hoofed up? Can we blame now that night?
Speaker 10: It has not been can?
Speaker 3: How does Al get him? Will we blame Al for that?
What did hell do? Stage your pictures? Him?
Speaker 4: So?
Speaker 10: Al sent me Al? Thank you so much? Al sent
me some honey.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, wow, I'll go for you. I know how
valuable and how painful that must have been for him
in a good way. I mean in a good way.
Speaker 6: It's like odding go sent us Christmas presents? Yes, you know,
she sent us stuff. She's always been very very you know,
nice about stuff. And you know, like I was down
to the last couple of jars and I'm like, well,
so Friday Friday, I was like, I was out in
the garage and I found a box just about the
right size to shove a two pound bottle in, wrapped
it all up, and then I texted her and said
send me your you know spelling, your name and your
address please and she got back to me pretty quick,
and so I got into the post office a like
nine eight in the morning and she got it yesterday.
Speaker 3: Wow, not that yes today. Yeah. Have you tried it?
Speaker 10: Oh my gosh, it's delicious.
Speaker 3: It really is.
Speaker 10: Unlike even when you buy like if you go so
we have a local marketplace.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like a country market.
Speaker 10: Yeah, problems when you buy it from there, it's different.
Speaker 3: Yeah, completely, Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 6: It all depends on what they what the bees got into,
like a lot of what around us, A lot of
beech roses, and you know, there's not much else, so
you have to.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of weed play. It's not like this stuff.
Well clover, we'll see what. There's not a lot of
clover buy us. I mean.
Speaker 6: The problem we have on the island is they'll go
out in a five mile radius around their hive. Well,
if you go eight houses to the yeah, one way,
it's open ocean. If you go in the opposite direction,
twelve or fourteen houses, there's the river, which they won't
cross us. So there's only the actual island itself. So
there's a they have a very small forage area field
of operations. Yeah, so well that's okay. I'm driving them
one by one of my cas who can up to
also thank you out. Also joining us up there in
Wisconsin is Brandy X. Brandy, how are you?
Speaker 7: I am fantastic and I am so excited. Everybody's here.
Speaker 3: Everyone is here. Last week, you had a hat on.
I did have a lot of calls about that hat.
You know that's becoming Yeah, how do you get calls
about her hat? Did you say that she had a
hat on? Yes?
Speaker 4: They wanted to know what kind of happened to the
radio show.
Speaker 3: Well, they see it, they see yeah, they know. I
already commented on her hair. That's we were setting up
because we're painting a visual picture of the audience. I
told I'm a sucker for the long hair guy. Also,
oh sweat.
Speaker 4: Wow, look at that little guy. Is that a coffin
in back of him?
Speaker 3: What is that?
Speaker 5: That's just a kid, that's the one I rescued.
Speaker 3: Get that. Yeah, yeah, he looks like he wants to
sleep for his life.
Speaker 10: He's still so tiny him sweat him?
Speaker 1: What's his name?
Speaker 3: That's discuss all right? Okay, that's enough, that's enough. Okay,
you're just doing this.
Speaker 5: To make me, doesn't he just melt your art.
Speaker 3: It is cute. Switchy oh man. Once again, it's like
I'm eating uh tofu like it's coming on my e.
Speaker 5: I think you feelings.
Speaker 3: That's well, he'll either go eat something or fall asleep.
Take it from me, Randy, thanks for joining us. We
appreciate it. Yeah, it's gonna be fun now talking about
fun up there in Edmund Canon, Cana, Edmonton, Canada. Him shay,
new hairdo, new hair do. He's got the what is that?
Kind of like a pompador thing like kind of punkish too,
a little punkish.
Speaker 1: A little punish, you know, you know whatever may come
from that generation.
Speaker 3: Well, now you could play rockabilly.
Speaker 1: Actually it was kind of a yeah Cochrane.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, he's not Richard Dreyfus anymore. He's like, you know,
the the second killer in a movie, right, not the
lead killer is accomplice. Beg your cab for joining us.
We appreciate it.
Speaker 1: A Henchman, good to see everybody.
Speaker 3: Is okay, Yeah, useful idiots.
Speaker 5: Does he make it to the end of the movie
or does he get no, he he gets it ready
before the head bad guy gets it, so he's in
for most of the movie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, multifunctional well rights itself.
Speaker 5: Good salary.
Speaker 3: Oh also, so, so we got a bunch of stuff
that we're gonna talk about tonight. But club night off
here about this a couple of days ago. Now, chem
trails are something that were seemed like they were pretty
big eight or nine years ago, eight or ten years ago.
Kim trails what people claim they see in the sky,
which actually contrails from mostly from the airline, some of
them from military planes, but the woman majority is from
civilian airline. Is going across the country, flying anywhere above
thirty thousand feet, and the exhaust from the jet engines
up at that altitude turns to ice crystals, and they
basically make those contrails which then can expand into you know,
clouds and everything. It all depends on how cold it is,
the time of year, blah blah blah. Well people see
some people see these things as basically kind of defoliating us,
dropping chemicals on us that is doing something to the
population of the country. Well, if it was turning everyone stupid,
I kind of. But but and they feel that this
is something nefarious and we'll put it an into a
lot of it, I think because in the early days
of the show way way back. Let's get calls on
it all the time, and I would argue with these
people that it was really kind of nonsense for many reasons.
Number one, well, let's just go through really quick. Number one.
Who you'd have to have one hundred or so planes
crisscrossing the country every day, day after day, dispensing this
poison on the country. Where do these hundred planes land,
where do they take off from? How are they loaded?
Who loads the poison on? What about all the traffic
controllers that work in the country, across the country. Okay,
there's a few thousand of them. Are they all in
on it? They see these things flying around up there?
No ID number? What are you doing? And so on
and so forth, that they just ignore them. If that's
the case, none of these air traffic controls ever came
forward and told the truth. Number two, how about the
pilots in these planes? Would they really be dropping poison
on maybe you know, their family members, their friends or whatever.
You're Number three, Oh page for this Number four, what's
the point of it? It can go on and on
and on and on, and now, in the rational age
we live in, it turns out dot dot dot and
we're going to turn it over the club.
Speaker 9: Well, Marc, Unfortunately, we're in this new age of heightened
conspiracy theories and a lot of this stuff has come
into the surface again. Now, this whole ken trails theory,
you know, as you talked about, it's been disproved years ago.
Speaker 8: You know, they aren't real.
Speaker 9: But anyways, the AP this week report, along with some
other agencies, that eight US states seek to outlaw chem
trails through legislation.
Speaker 3: We're so proud, you know.
Speaker 9: So Anyways, what we've got here is, you know, conspiracy
theorists erroneously believe that, and they have for years, that
the long lasting condensation trails left in the sky by
these high flying aircraft are actually chem trails, consisting of
chemicals or biological agents sprayed for nefarious purposes and undisclosed
to the public. Of course, the chief conspiracy theorist is
now in their RFK Junior. Allright, he's got right in
the middle of this thing. By he made a comment
this week that DAPPA, which is the Defense Advanced Research Agency,
he claims they're deliberately injecting chemicals into our atmosphere laden
with toxins, and that he's going to do everything he
can to stop it.
Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah, okay, so you know it's going again.
Speaker 9: Now some of the states involved, it's interesting. You know,
you've got states you wouldn't be surprised, you know, Louisiana
and Florida and Mississippi, but you got New York and
Nevada and some other states. They are also looking to
pass some type of laws or legislations, bills and UH
in particular Louisiana. Yes, it build UH does not include
penalties for violating, but it calls for further investigation and documentation.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 9: Now what people are you know that don't believe in
this stuff. One of the things that we think that's
coming to the surface again is their potential out of
behind these and some sphere that it could force the
airlines to reroot flights. In other words, they're trying to
change everything. Now the government, well, now, if you want
to re rout flights that you don't like over your state,
you know, just come up here and pass some kind
of a bill that you're concerned that there's these chemtrails.
And they want to challenge the locations of airports. So
now this would give them an opening to say geez,
you know that airport is right next to my house.
I think because of the chemtrail thing, we are to
get that moved out of there. One also looking to
bring legal action against carriers.
Speaker 3: What is the matter with people? What is meanly? What
is the matter with.
Speaker 8: People now in that age?
Speaker 9: And so for whatever is in the water, this is
what we have to live up with. But anyways, there
are some exceptions that we should talk about briefly. One
of the of course, back in nineteen sixty two to
nineteen eighty five, we used to have cloud seating. Okay,
they still have it today, but back at that time
there was one that was by the government that was
called Project Storm Fury, And what they did is they
conducted experiments to release silver iodide compound right into the atmosphere,
basically into a belt of maximum winds. The idea was
to reduce the strongest winds that way, So they tried that,
but again they stopped that back in the early eighties. Now,
cloud seating still occurs in some western states today, yep.
But again it's got nothing to do with all of
these chemicals. It's really designed to induce rain or snowfall. Now,
there was a bad area or bad time. As we
know during the Korean and Vietnam Wars that our government
dropped nineteen million gallons of chemicals, including agent orange, on
our enemies to defist.
Speaker 3: Yeah, defa.
Speaker 9: And we all know. I have a family member who's
been suffering from that his service. But that seemed to
end it, you know, when all of that happened, that
that drew the line of the sand, and they all
of this business of you know, up in the atmosphere
stop other than just a cloud seating. So there's all
this misinformation, and of course people are in a panic
now about looking up in the skies. Remember a year
ago all this crap with the drones night Sure, yep,
So everyone's on heightened alert, you might say about that.
But anyways, there's been a several studies conducted by atmospherest chemicsts,
chemists and geochemists that concluded working on atmosphere, they were
working on atmosphere deposition of dust pollution clouds, and at
that time of their studies, they've concluded that all this
business about contrails chemtrails is paranoid fantasy, all right. In addition,
the EPA still analyzes jet fuel for strict impurity limits.
So these are things that are going on to check that.
And of course we've got NOAH, which is the National
Osiographic and Atmospheric Administration. They've publicly denied undertaking any of this.
So the problem here is we just have to get
used to the fact that all these conspiracy things is
starting to come back. Hopefully it won't be forever, but
get used to more of this stuff. There's enough here
to you know, to throw this out the window.
Speaker 3: Yep, yep, But we got to put up with this for.
Speaker 9: A while and let the States go ahead and do
what they're going to do. And I just certainly hope
that that doesn't get them to have the power to
start shooting them down in flights and the airport to
be settled. So if that's their motive, then this is
scary times.
Speaker 3: Yes, well it is scary times, but it's just like
very very you know, they're going to legislate these things now,
right and wait a manu al show me a one
move that's born. That's just that's oh yeah, right, yeah,
they're all going the same way, yeah, from Europe, yeah
to Chicago, was right, Oh that was ye. We're in
the flight path right exactly. And I know that what
happened was back in around two thy fourteen or so,
there was a shutdown of they had a government shutdown
that a government shut down and you know what year
it was probably around it was before twenty fourteen, right, okay,
remember that, and.
Speaker 4: The government shut down of what the airports now they
shut down the government nuke Engrish.
Speaker 3: And all those guys. Yeah, right, and so people so
people said, well that means there would be no chemtrails today,
right because the government was and now and it was
like the exact same because they're airliners. They're airliners, okay,
not to you could not undertake a like the the
logistics of secretly taking off these huge planes. Who makes
the chemical for them? You don't duponmit this one thing?
You know. Who loads the chemical onto the plane? Someone
has to do it, you know, And who flies such planes?
Would they be in fear of their lives? You know?
So on and so on. So uh, it's it's been disproving,
you know, I'm amazing, it's come back to tell you
the truth. But here we are. Wow, what's the next Bigfoot?
They're gonna they're gonna arrest Bigfoot? If they find them,
throw them out like they threw dog men down until
they got Thank you club. Let's let's give Organic Clap
Club thank you.
Speaker 9: Yea.
Speaker 3: Even though Switching jumped all over you.
Speaker 9: Know, I when doing my research, I was really discouraged
when I saw that they're going to do this legislation.
But then when they talk about potential motives, and I said, ah,
here we go.
Speaker 3: What a waste of time. See, crop dusting is just
that is that is around? Right? Yeah? Switch, you you
stepped all over club's celebration. Please tell us what you're
trying to say. Ah, okay, good, all right, makes that exercise?
Speaker 5: I can, I can? You know I can do five minutes.
Speaker 3: All right, So we're going to go to Yeah, we're
going to go to you next, right, I forget where
are we going to came? You will know we're gonna
go to you and then Switch and then me and
then okay, all right, all right, so why don't we
just throw? So this is really odd. You're listening to
Maclony's Militrak Still show here on the Distance under Radio Network.
The whole gang is here, and tonight we've talked about
chemtrails and a bunch of other things. And now I'm
just gonna throw it over to Kim because we are
talking about earlier, you know, some kind of unusual subject
to do and believe it or not. Another reason, I'm
going to like the Canadians in the Canadian Canadians they
built a flying saucer back in the fifties, I believe did,
and they tried to make tried tried to make flying
saucer actually like you know, like a fighter jet or
something like that, and and it wasn't it wasn't a
complete washout. So we're gonna throw it over to Kim.
My Canadian corresponded from the fifty for a state one
of our.
Speaker 1: The North.
Speaker 3: Okay, your part Canadian? Switch?
Speaker 5: What's that? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Your pot? Which pot? Hang?
Speaker 5: My grandmother on my mother's side was Canadian, and it
turns out actually she was French Canadian, which we didn't
know even that after she died.
Speaker 9: Switch, you know, I'm also pot Canadian? The pot, I
said on oh.
Speaker 6: In the room, But all right, I got it. I
don't admit this very often. Oh, hang on, everybody, Okay,
this is something I never ever ever admit.
Speaker 3: It's a big announcement.
Speaker 6: My grandparents on my mother's side came here from Newfoundland.
Speaker 3: Now they nufie.
Speaker 6: They came from one I think my grand my mother
was English and my grandfather was Irish, so they were
they weren't allowed. I guess it was an issue in
the old country about them getting together. So they split
and they went to Newfoundland. So my parents, my mother
is a goofy Newfie.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 6: But the interesting part is at the time that my
grandparents were there, Newfoundland wasn't part of Canada. It was
an independent country. So, you know, I want to say
to people my you know, my family came from Canada.
Speaker 3: But they really didn't. They were goofy Newfies instead. So
so let me just uh, let me get this straight,
so we could throw switch out and throw you out
as well. Right, well, I mean I am and I'm not.
I mean, well, you know, say that's ice anyway, So
you know, can I answer you can? I can? I
just apologize to every Canadian who's listening to us and
who will never listen to us in the future. Please
here's a Canadian correspond.
Speaker 9: Mean it as a negative. I meant that it was pas,
really did you. I'm very proud of what I said.
Speaker 6: Way off, and I would rather be Canadian than you know,
a newfoundland Er. So I you know, I mean a Canadian?
What rather be a Canadian?
Speaker 3: Oh? I see? Okay, are you what are you?
Speaker 7: What?
Speaker 6: Are you giving up your Italian No, I don't admit
to any of it. I just say I'm Italian and
I go with that. I just say I'm Sicilian. Oh yeah,
you know they noticed the skin color, you know when
I when I go for legal documents and they like
they put down what you know, complexion, They write medium.
They don't say I'm white. They say I'm.
Speaker 3: Medium meaning well done. Yeah, I'm like, oh medium, what
show me a color swatch? Listen to can the And
I asked the Sicilian and you can I move on?
Please do myself. Sorry to all Italians on that to him,
I was about to do a.
Speaker 4: Plank part Sicilian too. My mother's name is Katanya and
she's her grandma. Her mother was from Sicily. And if
you ask me, uh what you just asked, al, I'd say,
over my.
Speaker 3: Dead buddy, nikes, what can an Irish guy do here?
I'm surrounded by.
Speaker 4: Caught between a rock and a Sicilian hide.
Speaker 3: Place right, It's about eight things you put in there
that we'll go with that before you go to somewhere,
before you go back to the try to interrupt the
current situation. But now, can you read this? I read that?
Can we read what that says? Yeah, Busty Morgan, Uh,
him ahead, Shock balsam Sky in South Carolina, Susan, what's
going on? Hamm ahead? Shock balsam Sky in South Carolina?
Speaker 6: Ham had shock fell on the golf course while they
were playing golf Shock NATO, NATO.
Speaker 3: Is something going on down there? Wow?
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, yeah? Interesting only down there though? So is
that the report from the Onion or something?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 3: I think it was? Uh? Is the Youngion still around?
That's hilarious, Kim. I am trying to throw it to you,
but I'm coming a defensive don't no, Hang on a second,
hang on, I lost it. He's lost it. So here
we go. So, Kim Shay, you have the story about
how the Canadian military.
Speaker 1: Canada for sure one of our finest companies that came
into this country nineteen forty five, kind of took over
from Victory that made bombers and stuff and hair hawkers
and stuff like that during the Second World War. But
Avro took them over at the end of the war
and proceeded to become one of our biggest companies in
Canada and one of the one hundredth biggest companies in
the world.
Speaker 3: At that time.
Speaker 1: They had about fifty thousand employees. But they had a
group of kind of engineers that were sort of like
skunkworks kind of mentality. They worked on their own, they
worked on their premises in their own private place. Even
the bosses didn't know what they were doing, but they
had ideas and some of them panned out, some of
them didn't. But one of them was kind of based
on this I guess it was coined in the turn
of the century actual the nineteenth century. And I'm not
going to get the word right because it's French, and
it's like my French isn't the greatest. But it's a
principle of airflow around a surface. So basically the idea
is that you move a quick wind over a curved
surface and it will stick to it because of the
high pressure that it creates. Anyways, you can read about
that little thing if anybody wants to. It's very interesting stuff.
But these engineers, being the biggest engineer was Jack Frost.
He came here in forty seven from de Haveland. So
he worked on a bunch of the cool fighter jets
at the end of the Second World War and during
one of them being the Vampire, and he came here
and decided to put well, what he was trying to
do was make a better compressor and a better jet engine.
But in doing so, they also were working on some
of this ideas of surfaces and what they could do
with I guess moving air and so at that time
in the fifties, they had a real problem, and that
was the idea that they wanted an aircraft to be VTOL,
meaning vertical takeoff and landing or PTol, which is a
zero length project that incorporated rockets, so that a plane
could take off from the ground with a rocket and
then be airborne, right but kind of hard to land them,
kind of difficult to position them. It was one of
the greatest ideas. So the vto L was something that
they were working on, and it was basically based around
that idea of the first strike strategy with nuclear weapons.
So you know, they knew that their airports were going
to get taken out if they were going to get hit,
so they wanted to be able to have an aircraft
that would vto l and be able to take off
from anywhere. So they came up with this idea. But
it happened to turn out that a couple of big
wigs from the US came into Canada and were hanging
out at Avro and they were looking at one of
our new aircraft see one hundred, which is a really
fantastically aircraft at the time. Yes, and Jack got a
hold of them and he wanted to show them what
he was working on. And even the bosses didn't know
what they were working on, but he took these guys
to the side and he started showing them what the
stuff could do, and he had some models and he
had things going, and they listened with quite the intent,
and they were sold. They went back down back down
to Washington and they sold it to everybody, and everybody
was pretty convinced that this was going to be takeover
the helicopter. The helicopters would be defunct, wow, and that
they would be history and we'd all be flying around
in these Zavro cars. Well, you know, so, just just
to give some of the parameters for some of the
performances that was estimated. So they came out and said
that basically they were going to be able to do
two hundred and twenty five knots, be able to fly
up to about ten thousand feet and go probably about
one thousand miles.
Speaker 3: Thing look like the period like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and be supersonic and.
Speaker 3: Subsonic and v too.
Speaker 1: Well, So this thing was like kind of like oh
they smoked. People couldn't believe it, right, that this is
going to actually pan out to have an aircraft that
was going to be able, because I mean, in the
fifties they had that real problem, that real vaccine technical
issue from going subsonic and supersonic two didn't combine well together. Right, Yes,
he had a plane that was, you know, going faster
than the speed of sound. He had aircraft that went less,
but this plane was going to be able to do
it all. They they kind of were working on a
delta wing, a spade kind of shape, you know, they
spade in cards that kind of a design.
Speaker 3: Yes, they got more into.
Speaker 1: The saucer kind of thing, right, and he had done
up some models and the Americans were interested. They dumped
a whole bunch of money into it, and so did
AVRO and so did the Canadian government and then okay,
well let's let's get our project going here. So, I
mean the first time they ever flew one, all all
the early models were tethered.
Speaker 3: To this video of this too, this film of them
flying this thing.
Speaker 1: There was only one that actually ever flew without a tether,
and that happened like November twelfth and nineteen fifty nine,
and it it like they crashed. Like I laughed, because
I mean when when I first started looking at this MAC,
I was thinking, well, yeah, I mean, didn't they just
make a hovercraft like really well, actually this was before
the hovercraft, so they if they had just put us
some skirts around it, they probably would have had vented
a hovercraft at that time. But that wasn't what they
were working on. They were working on VTWOL and they
were trying to make this thing work. So, I mean,
as soon as you get so the idea was to
go from a hover to a vertical flight and be
able to go cruising wherever you wanted to, right, Yeah,
they also wanted it to be able to sit still
and hover off the ground while it works really nicely
when it's low because that because it blows air.
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, okay, anyways, you had.
Speaker 1: Three jet engines that are running a big rotor fan yep,
sort of like a turbine prop turbine engine, right, except
it would blow this one hundred and twenty four bladed
huge blades around it, which would cause the air to
be blown from the top to the bottom hitting the ground. Basically,
if you're close enough to the ground, it creates a cushion,
there's no big deal. And then you have vents along
the edges to control which way you want to go
and which kind of that idea, and that was a
problem with them too. They had to come up with
some different technology. But the problem was is that it
worked really well on the close to the ground, but
as soon as you lift it up, they got like
what was called a tree posting or whatever, where the
thrust would become narrower and narrower. And now you're balancing
this thing on the end of this thrust from this engine. Right,
it started you a hub capping and start going forward
and back forth and getting lifted and they would do
crazy stuff and they just nobody could really fly it.
It was an impossibility to control. Now, maybe with today's
technology and computers and better engines yep. Three engines that
they put in. It had six hundred and sixty pounds
of thrust.
Speaker 3: That was all yeah, yeah, yeah, a lot.
Speaker 1: It was kind of a kneemic, right, I mean basically,
like I was saying, okay, so just to add to
this story, because what they actually you know, there's the estimated,
right you guys, and then there was the actual. The
estimated was okay, like two hundred and twenty five knots. Well,
the actual was thirty five miles an hour.
Speaker 3: Oh wait, okay, all right, baby, step now the ceiling.
Speaker 1: Now the ceiling. Don't get excited here, because I mean
they must have almost got vertigo on this one because
the actual for ceiling, well, I said before they wanted
to get to ten thousand feet, but the actual was
three feet.
Speaker 3: Three feet just three feet wow, okay.
Speaker 1: And then when it went to range, well it did
about eighty miles and that's all they could get out
of it. So it just was a kneemeck. It just
didn't do right what they thought, and I mean they
thought it was going to go mock three point five.
That was some of the first stuff that that Jack
Frost had told the guys down the States, the Air Force,
which I think with at the time was the Army,
right yeah, okay, military secret projects is where it actually
ended up going to. But I mean everybody was convinced,
like I say, that this was going to take over
and they were all going to be flying around in
these things and it would be. But as it coined
out and panned out, it didn't. But I got to
give you guys credit because one of the one of
the test vehicles, like was beaten up and badly bruised,
but it has actually been all rebuilt and it's, uh,
I'm going to flub up where it's at, but it's
in one of the museums for.
Speaker 4: Aerospace Swithsoian or aircraft.
Speaker 1: It would be cool to see because it's like been
it's I think I sent.
Speaker 3: A picture to Mac of it.
Speaker 1: It looks like a million bucks. It looks like, wow,
what very cool looking thing. But fortunately, you know, I
mean they didn't get some technology from it, ducted fan technology. Okay, yeah,
they were ahead of the game, like and like I said,
the hovercraft, if they just skirted it, they would have
been ahead of the game there too, but it didn't happen,
and it was just kind of an oddity. And then
people thought that the Soviets of course had got the
blueprints and were making them and flying them around. You
know that that's where that kind of came from, too, right,
I mean that old idea that we're being inundated with
some of these flying saucers. Okay, well, I don't know
if it wasn't it wasn't one of ours.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you that the Russians have a and now
pronounce it Ryan. It's called ecto plans, Ecto plans, something
along those lines. So what they look like, they're like
a flying battleship, and they're enormous. They're enormous, and they
have these engines that they thrust downward. And when you
do this with the design of this plane, and it's
really odd looking, that creates a cushion of air. So
this plane, that is, it's half plane and half bowleship.
A troop ship can fly along the water. About ten
feet above the water is its limit. But it can
go like hell, there's something very very big, and that's
I don't think it's ducted. Fans. Ducted fans came in
with the F thirty five has ducted fans. The Harrea
has movable veins. Reducted fans are a completely different thing.
And I think that there's a Russian airplane called the
Yak twenty eight that also has them. But you're basically
you're flying around with this fan that when you want,
you can stop in mid air and land and take
off vertically. They don't do that a lot as a
crossing gas but you can also be put on an
aircraft carry has that that ramp that just kind of
takes off, you know, and that saves the gasoline and yeah,
and so on and so forth. So it's interesting that
the that technology came from from this slion sausages thing.
And it's also odd that they came up with a
flying sausage shape in the fifties because lining sauses are everywhere.
You know, it would be funny if this is the
way you go, but it turned out to be no.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's that's true. And the guys did go
on to make the Harrier, which is kind of some
of the engine that the engine that they were working
with is actually the Pegasus YEP that they put in
the Harrier. So some of that technology did pan off in.
Speaker 3: Different directions and that's what happens.
Speaker 1: But Hey, the interesting thing about that MAC is that
the Avro Canada at that time that the c F
one O five which was the Arrow, and the Arrow
was canceled, which really kind of killed this program too.
Speaker 3: So it was canceled by the Pentagon because they were
they wanted to produce the F one eleven, which they
thought was going to be one of these do it
all airplanes. It turned out to be not that, but
it turned to be an okay airplane. But they didn't
want the Canadians to have a rival airplane, so they
put a lot of pressure on I guess Avro, and
they discontinued that. A lot of people say that that
was one of the best super starling interceptors ever made,
the c F one oh five.
Speaker 1: It was ahead of its time, there's no doubt about huge.
Got to be good ten years ahead of everybody else, right, Yeah,
it was kind of kind of strange for a little
country like us at that time to have such technology.
I think it freaked the pants off a lot of people.
You know, it was just like but but it did
kill Avrol, which to be bad because I mean, for
that company to be producing the aircraft that they did
make and be part of our you know, technology in
our country was a really sad thing for this.
Speaker 3: Avro Lancaster was a bum during Rollo too. There was,
you know, of them, another odd thing that the Canadian
government did and I applaud this and this happened. I
can't tell you how many years ago, but you know,
years ago, the Canadian military was just like us. There,
Canadian Navy, Canadian Air Force, Canadian Army. And then somewhere
I'm going to say in the early seventies, someone came
up with the idea of why is everything an intriplicate,
Let's just make it all one thing. So they made
them the Canadian forces and they integrated it all and
that had to save tons and tons of money and
paperwork and everything, right, Kim.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and totally trying to centralize it a bit. There
was people that were ticked off, like the Air Force
guys who are still kind of like you know, because
they're in their own kind of area of expertise and people.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: I think it's just kind of always been segregated just
because of that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I think it's a great idea.
I mean, I think it's a great I think it's
a good idea. But it works. I don't know if work
for a country like the US, but it solves a
lot of problems and it saves a lot of money.
Speaker 1: We had one of the biggest navies after the Second
World War.
Speaker 3: Really yeah, unbelievable.
Speaker 1: How we armed ourselves and then disarmed ourselves.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we have a lot.
Speaker 1: Of it's mad, we don't we get.
Speaker 3: Really sorry, I'm mad anyway, Thank you, Kim. Was going
to clap for you, Kim, and a great organic clap there.
He is Buddha.
Speaker 1: Very cool subject for sure, y.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really interesting and the film is cool.
Speaker 1: Things off it too. You could look at that subject
for the next days. It's just there's so many offshoots
from it, so it's really cool, very cool.
Speaker 3: Also, speaking about really cool, well let's say a lot
of them. I'm sorry. Let's switch it over to switchy
real quick, switchy. You're cool, you are you're cool, stretched
too cool for school, too cool for school. It's cool cats,
that's for sure. Well, let's not go back and I switched. Yes,
you have a report.
Speaker 5: I do. Would you like me to get started?
Speaker 3: Sure?
Speaker 9: Okay?
Speaker 5: The source material for this two books by Jacques Beallet Dimensions,
the Case Book of Alien Contact, which is part of
a trilogy he did in the late eighties early nineties,
and also Passport to Mogonia from Full Quorteriflying Saucers that
goes back to the sixties. That's the third book he wrote.
His first two books focused on UFOs from a sort
of a nuts and bolts standpoint, but then he kind
of threw up his hands because things just weren't driving.
And the first book I'm getting information from is by
Ingo's Swan. We know him as a he was a
military remote viewer. He helped the military develop their protocols.
But this book is a little different. It's called The
Great Apparitions of Mary, an examination of twenty two super
normal appearances. So the general gist of this is some
events we look at as religious miracles do kind of
bleed over a little bit to some of the UFO
experiences that have been reported.
Speaker 3: Are these appearances by the BVM as the kids caller,
is that what the kids call be the Blessed Virgid Mary.
The person that is that is that the appearances, is
that the appearances You're you speak well the first.
Speaker 5: One, yes, but the other ones are different. Religious manifestation saints.
Speaker 3: Okay, go ahead, yeah, go ahead, okay.
Speaker 5: Las Sallette in France. It's a small hamlet southeast of Paris,
Paris in the French Alps. Now it was this was
late afternoon on a Saturday, September nineteenth, eighteen forty six.
Two children were hired to guard to guard cows on
the mountain slopes. Now, when they returned the cows, they
talked about this, this strange but beautiful experience that occurred
to them. A fourteen year old girl named Melanie Mattou
and the boy was Maximum g who I'm trying to
get the I listened to the correct pronunciations for this.
Speaker 3: His name was Maximum, really well.
Speaker 5: Maximum, but the the last name is spelled like Gerard,
but it's not pronounced like.
Speaker 3: Gerard maximin Gerard. Yeah, okay, wow age.
Speaker 5: He was age eleven and she was fourteen, and they
had come upon in kind of a ravine, a circle
of brilliant light. And now, in some cases, in some
references to this, it sounds more like a like an
egg shape or round shake metallic craft. But in this
report it talks about a kind of a ball of light,
and in one source that says a door opened, this
one says, more like an opening just kind of appeared
in this ball of light. And inside, Now it was
not definitely not a gray alien or et. They could
make out a figure of a woman, and she was seated.
Her face was in her hands, so she's crying. They
believed they had countered the most Holy Virgin. And she
was wearing a clothing that was silver, white and quite brilliant,
sparkling and dazzling. And she came out, she spoke to them.
Now she was They said, she was wearing a yellow pinafore, like,
you know, not exactly the garment you would expect.
Speaker 3: What does a pinafol? Please? What is it? Can you
explain it? Switching like a dress?
Speaker 5: Okay, it's really like a dress like a dress. Not
exactly what you'd expect.
Speaker 3: Let's ask Susan. Either one doesn't know.
Speaker 7: I don't. I don't. I have a feeling of some
kind of like overdressed, like you would put all your
skirts and stuff on and then put this over the
top of.
Speaker 5: It something like that.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, they're big. Now we understand. We see the
picture painted for us. Go ahead, please.
Speaker 5: The children were very excited. They said her face was majestic,
she was beautiful, she was surrounded by two auras. Now
there's much much more detail that goes on forever about
her appearance than what she was wearing. And she made
predictions about failing crops and famine and so forth, and actually, uh,
you know that the kids reported it. At first, they
weren't believed, but eventually some of these predictions did come true.
Crops were failing by the end of eighteen forty six,
and many of these predictions were fulfilled, and there were
actually thousands of pilgrims arrived after the word got out.
By eighteen forty seven, there were twenty three documented healings
that occurred. And they at first the authorities threatened the
children with excommunication if they didn't tell the truth. The
children really understood excommunication, but eventually the miracle was accepted
and they believed it was actually a true encounter.
Speaker 3: Now this next one, well, I just want to say
if I can interrupt you one one, just send me
a note. I think the BVM is way hot. No, wait,
that's really an appropriate one. I'm looking at the images
of Pinafores. Well, let's move on this.
Speaker 5: See the thing is it starts out. It almost sounds
like a close encounter of the third kind, if you
talk about this object that the lady arrives in that
or is seen in. But obviously it's not really an
encounter now and Jacques let covers another incident Knock a
small village in West Ireland. This is August twenty first,
eighteen seventy nine. It's really bad weather. It's raining very hard.
Archdeacon Kavanaugh who returned home that evening. Early evening, Mary McLaughlin,
the housekeeper, had lighted a fire and she went to
go visit a friend, and as she passed the church,
she noticed three figures in the field adjacent to the church,
and something that looked like an altar. She found it
very strange, but she ignored it, and two other parishioners
saw it also, and they also ignored it. Later on,
when she came back by the church, she and her
friend went past it, and it was not quite dark
yet evening was approaching, but she saw these three figures
much closer. The central figure was our lady, and there
was on her right with Saint Joseph. The third figure,
they said was Saint John the Evangelist. Now soon eighteen
parishioners were crowded around the apparitions. A diocesan commission later
on investigated this incident. Fourteen witnesses, three men, two children,
three teenagers, six women ages six to seventy five, and
they all described this incident and their testimonies were very similar.
Another man who lived about a half mile away from
Knack came before the same commission to report that he
witnessed a large globe of golden light that night, about
nine pm. This globe of light was there for a
very long time, and at first he thought somebody foolishly
had started a fire on the church grounds. Later he
was told about the apparitions of the three saints, and
they reported that the light was golden and sparkling, as
bright as the sun. The light would change, it would
illuminate the sky above and beyond the church and within
the lighted area. Everyone that was there saw the apparitions.
They were clothed in brilliant white silver light and silver
like garments actually, and behind them appeared to be some
kind of altar and with a large cross on it,
and in front of it was a young lamb with
its face directed toward the west. The lady. On the
lady's head was a crown or brilliant crown. Her hands
were apart and raised upward. Valet says that there weren't
any paintings or statues of her in that position, suggesting
that perhaps people were not influenced by some of the
artworks of the lady. Now, Bridget Trench, who was one
of the witnesses, was so moved that she went to
embrace the virgin's bare feet, but her arms closed on
empty air. She was stunned because the figures seemed so
lifelike and real. She was completely completely dumbfounded. And the
other thing is the rain was still pouring down, but
it was completely dry where they were. The where the
apparitions were. Saint John was holding a book. Patrick Hill
got close enough to where he could actually see lines
and letters in the book. Now, the parish priest said
he was informed about it. He said, oh, they were
probably just reflections from the stained glass windows.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense, and.
Speaker 5: He stayed home. The event lasted several hours. The next
morning there was not much of anything left. Ten days afterwards,
the incident a deaf child was healed. A man born
blind was able to see after visiting not soon. There
were like something like seven to eight healings occurred every
week in the area. A man one man was so
sick and dying. This is early after the next day.
He was actually throwing up blood as he was being
carried to the church. He received his last sacraments from
the archdeacon on his arrival, and then he was there
was some I guess there was some moisture left there,
and he drank the water and he was cure instantly
from being near death. A science professor from Maynooth performed
tests with a magic lantern. One of these things will
project images on the wall, and so there was quite
an investigation and it came to the conclusion that whatever
this was, it definitely was not due to a magic lantern.
Belay goes on to talk about some obvious similarities between
some of these especially knock some of these cases and
UFO experiences. The strange globe of light of varying intensity,
the luminous entities. I mean, if these entities were grays
or something that looked like ET's, you know, it would
have been a perfect interchange that everything else is the same.
And also now he mentions about how a lot of
people aren't aware of some of the healings that occur
during these incidents. And of course, very recently we talked
about Preston Denis's book about three hundreds healings from what
he called extraterrestrials. So you have you have these interesting parallels.
The same way you have interesting parallels with some UFO
experiences and various traditions of folklore. And one wonders, you know,
what is the what is at the heart of it,
and why do these things seem to bleed over or
overlap a little bit. It's very, very, very difficult to
determine what's going on. You know, we we have talked
before about how you know, you have the close encounter experience.
Some of them are very Helian or relalien, where they
seem to be temporal transmogrifications of energy, psychic, very ethereal
that don't don't last. On the other hand, there are
cases that seem to be very much nuts and bolts,
flesh and blood. It just seems to be some kind
of duality there. Bigfoot. You have some bigfoots off in
the Northwest that seem to be flesh and blood creatures,
although in some cases there's a high strangeness factor there too.
Then you have the ones in Pennsylvania that Stan Gordon examined.
It would disappear in a flash of light if you
shot them, almost like they're a counterfeit of the real thing.
So what I'm wondering is do we have some Now
I did not sometimes I'd like to get into the
miracle of Fatima because it's very complex and very very strange.
Speaker 3: Yes, But you know.
Speaker 5: So, do we have a situation where we have some
genuine spiritual UFO experiences and some that are more like
when I mentioned on another program where Scott Rogo thought
that some of these things were kind of a wish fulfillment.
People were projecting these things, they were becoming temporarily manifest
And I think it's possible that the religious experience, some
of them may well be very legitimate and it come
from the divine, and others may be more psychological and
more like projections.
Speaker 3: Just to put a cherry on top, when you mentioned
Fatima and the last appearance in Fatima, there were thirty
thousand people in a field, an open field, thirty thousand people,
and they saw the sun dance. They took pictures of
it that the sun it had rained earlier in that morning,
and the sun came so close to the people that
it dried their clothes. And the interesting thing about this
we've talked about it before the show is at the time,
there were five newspapers in Portugal and they were all
run by the government, which was very very anti religious,
very very anti Catholic, and their correspondents are the ones
who took the pictures and wrote the stories. So the
least likeliest people in the crowd were the ones who
documented it. And if you just take away the religious
aspect of it, it sounds like a UFO siting, like
a fantastic one. But you know, it's it hits all
the it fills all the boxes. It just happens to
be hysterically remembered as a religious event, you know.
Speaker 5: And it was like I said, I'll report on it
sometime in the future. But the children were kind of
like they were being prepared. Yeah, yeah, years ahead of time.
They were having experiences and so forth. We're hearing kind
of a buzzing noise when they saw the children speaking
to the Virgin, even though they could not see the
apparition and the entity whatever it was, which is another
connection with with UFOs and paranola phenomena. So again you
get and you know a lot of it was like
you say, if you divorced the religious aspect, it was
like a UFO overhead.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 5: So again, you know, how do we sort sift through
this and decide what is objectively real and true?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you have to have like controlled experiments or something.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: Is it possible that a crowd that large could, since
they were going there to expect to see something or
hopefully or pray for it, prayfully to see something, can
manifest some image and all that energy from all these
people could bring forth our Lady of Fatima just from energy.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, but there were so many there were non
believers in that crowd, of which is you know, people
who would be hard to convince, and they convince them. Plus,
you know, if you could take the combined energy of
thirty thousand people and you don't transferment into something, the
red size would be such losers. Oh hang on.
Speaker 5: Well, you know, interestingly enough, Joe mcmonagall, one of the
famous remote viewers military remote viewers, was given Fatoma as
a blind target. He saw a meteor streaking across the
sky and actually blowing up before it hit the ground.
But the thing is, even if that's the case, and
then even if that created some of the the visual phenomena, Uh,
this was predicted. The children were told ahead of time
because there was something extraordinary going to happen on this date.
Was it a meteor blowing up? That was the the
you know prediction? And then why all the the other
you know, the the projections of the vision married you know,
we had. Bernardette had a similar experience where she was
talking supposedly to the lady. There are many many instances
where uh, it's goot Rogo deals with us too. The
visions of the of the Virgin Mary. He thinks some
of them may be wish fulfillment, and they, I guess
they off appear in countries where the belief in the
Virgin Mary is more prominent than the place you might manifest.
Speaker 3: Have here Magiagori. It's in Yugoslavia, the old Yugoslavia, Pvegigori,
and it's a it's a small chapel up in the hills.
I'm thinking probably in what you would call Serbia these days.
Same thing. Three children, two girls and a guy were
told to go to this place at a certain time
and you will see the virgin. And the thing is
that this is fairly recently, so they have value of
these kids, and no one else can see her about them.
But when she arrives, they all three of them just
go to their knees in an instant. You couldn't, you
couldn't choreographic better boom, They're down and they're just looking
up at the space in the corner and having these conversations.
Very strange, madgrigory. Anyway, we're going to get of switchy.
Speaker 5: Wow, even club is clapping.
Speaker 3: Even club is clapping, is like an old video.
Speaker 5: You're running want to yeah.
Speaker 4: Switches like the new Pope of the show. Here's the
new pop delivering all the religious manifestations.
Speaker 3: Right, yes, the new pop.
Speaker 5: We're going to get to the could you even speak Latin?
Speaker 3: Really? And you well.
Speaker 5: Eaturbs known illegitimate cover? Yeah that's too. Don't let the
bastards where you're down about?
Speaker 3: How about Mika, Mika power Stella? What's that mean? Twinkle
Twinkle little star?
Speaker 4: About what's I took two years of Latin in in
high school, and that's about as far as I got.
Rather than translating Sela's Caesars Gallic Wars one, can you
stand up and re translate the next two paragraphs?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: For a while I was like Beavis and Buttthead during
that during that class.
Speaker 3: You know what God's telephone numbers?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: Anyone a comspirait too too low? Okay? On that note,
let's leave them laughing and go to a commercial and
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Speaker 4: And I just kept going on and on about myself.
I'm taking a leak in the driveway. Just I know
you'd like to talk to total stranger. The story has
got nothing to do with the Bruins game. It's what
happened with Grandma. I was wondering if those were shadow
mesocism straps or something.
Speaker 3: But I digress from what I don't know.
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the Mac Maloney Military X File Show.
Speaker 3: Wow, welcome back, and went to Macloney's Military Sauce Show.
Here in the Distant Thunder Radio Network, This is Mac
and Roney. What a show this has been tonight. Let
me introduce the co conscurrat just real quick, girls. One
one is here.
Speaker 4: Hello everybody, Hello girls, Welcome back to the show. It's
been a good one. It's been kind of fun.
Speaker 3: Be lovers. Uncle Al is here. Okay, yeah, I'm sorry.
He's buzzy. He's buzz Get it. Also, Switchblade Steve is here. Switchy, Switchy,
come in, Switchy, turn on your microphone. Eight years that pom.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was coughing, because if I coughed over your intro,
I'd be uh, you.
Speaker 6: Know, excuriated, excuriated or excommunicated for.
Speaker 4: All of those things beginning with X Latin means out,
hence the word exit exit.
Speaker 3: Great to be here anyway, either way, what did you
use the show in Latin one of these days? Yeah,
that'd be good. That'd be a great idea. Why didn't
we do it in pig Latin? That'd be more likely.
XN on me yet on the la switchy very quickly.
What you have a breakfast for a diead fans?
Speaker 5: Well, I actually had a brunch. I want to do
something different, so I went to Tuscany restaurant, Italian restaurant.
I had a ribbi. I had a baked potato with butter.
Speaker 3: Nothing Italian. Yeah, give you some kind.
Speaker 5: Of funky like flat bread with stuff you can. I
had one piece of it. It was good, but I
didn't want to fill up, you know, I needed to steak.
I had soup instead of salad. I had potato soup
with bacon.
Speaker 3: Oh well that sounded really a So.
Speaker 5: I'm actually remortgaging my house to.
Speaker 3: Pay for it. Okay, yes, Bill, say okay, but your
struggle for it. That ribby did you good? It's a
way to build both good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I usually don't. That's actually the same place that
Susan and I went to when she visited some time ago.
So it's a nice, nice little place, good food. I
never I just I almost never. That's only the second
time I've gone out to get, you know, a good
steak alone. I always go with people steak for some reason.
I don't count the country fried steak.
Speaker 3: No, no one does. Yeah, okay, switching what did what
did Curly say? I'd rather have a was it a
hot steak than a cold chop? Since we you know,
we were talking about the three steage are inside.
Speaker 5: That's my background here. I can't see what's on the book,
but it says the truth about UFOs.
Speaker 3: Oh really yeah, okay, it's very interesting. Also with US
is our head security chief, International senior, et cetera. Willie Club?
Speaker 9: Really, hey, mag I'm having a good time tonight the store.
I have to listen to you know, our friends, which
you talk about those rabbis and Hooters. Yes, I never
thought I had there once and I just couldn't get
it down.
Speaker 4: Come on, Jesus, but seriously, folks, what is it about Hooters?
Speaker 8: Well, well, that's that's Richie's favorite place.
Speaker 4: What is it what is about that part of the
anatomy that is so fascinating rich Well?
Speaker 3: Only a two hours show here, Ronnie.
Speaker 4: Because I even asked myself that question.
Speaker 3: Yeah, don't we all all right, listen, let's just move on. Okay. Also, wow,
that's from the past. Stained a good name for a ben.
Also with us pillows, is you used to work in
a pillow factor? Okay, sticks with you? That could be
the name of a strip club, the pillow Factory. Yeah, okay,
we gotta move on. San thanks to joined us. Susan
k down there in North Carolina.
Speaker 5: Everybody, Hello Susan.
Speaker 10: Great show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well it's not quite over. Time to screw it up.
Also with us is our good friend Kim Shay up
and uh, I you know I'm going out on what on? Kim?
How are you up in Edmonton?
Speaker 1: I'm doing great just listening to this. This gives me
a smile and I got a good laugh. I'm just
glad to contribute my little bit to a whole bunch
of experts. Every time I come on, I learned.
Speaker 3: Something experts interesting. Okay. Also with us, thank him he
is a good friend. Up there in Wisconsin, Brandy Axe.
Speaker 7: Brandy, Hello, and what a great show.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well so far, so well here and I've introduced
everyone I think right yep? Uh so Brandy you report
club for us? Yeah, introduced club. Yeah. Yeah, he was
having a ball. And we've over the you're a corresponding
in you know, with a paranormal and the religious kind
of meat, and we've done things like the stigma or
and things like that, but this one I've actually seen
kind of for myself. So speaking in tongues, h please
tell us what that's about? Please?
Speaker 7: Okay, it probably sounds like you something you think you
know what it is, but I thought I did, and
I realized I don't. So there's way more to it
than what you think there is. So I use some
online resources for this, some Catholic and Protestant articles and sites.
I looked at the Bible and listen to a couple
religious podcasts. So speaking in tongues is also called glassalalia.
That's from the Greek. It has actually been around for
thousands of years, and according to the Bible, it is
the gift of spiritual intervention that grants a speaker the
ability to communicate by means of a previously unknown and
unlearned language through supernatural means. There are differing beliefs even
within Christianity as to whether or not speaking in tongues
refers to speaking a known language, which is one that
you've never learned, or one that the listeners know but
that's not what you're speaking, or whether it is an
unintelligible language that sounds like it should be but that
really isn't a language at all and doesn't have any
extrinsic meaning, but only means something emotional to the speaker.
So both are of supernatural origin though, and both reference
the biblical account of Pentecost, which in the Christian faith
we just had last weekend, and that is an event
that is talked about in the or the Book of Acts,
and it commemorates an event that happened fifty days after
Easter when Jesus's apostles were all gathered in Jerusalem and
a rush of like a wind of the Holy Spirit
came upon them, and they all began speaking in other languages,
or they were speaking in their own languages, but all
of the people gathered there from all over that part
of the world that spoke different languages, each heard their
speech in their own language. So the apostles were speaking
one language, but everybody was hearing it in their own language.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's very strange.
Speaker 7: And so they attribute this to the Holy Spirit. But
them being so filled with the Holy Spirit that they
were able to communicate Jesus's message to everyone even though
they didn't know their languages. So it is recognized by
the Church as being a supernatural experience, kind of like
when there's a possession and a demon is speaking an
unknown language through the possessed person. This is kind of
the flip side, where the Holy Spirit is speaking an
unknown language through a person. So it turns out that
there are multiple ways of interpreting this phenomena, and I
kind of looked at two of them. One is called
apostolic speaking in tongues and one is called Charismatics speaking
in tongues. So I'm going to start with an apostolic
and that is what is recognized by the Catholic Faith
as either speaking in your own language and being heard
by others of other languages in their own language, or
by spontaneously speaking in a language that you don't know
in order to give the message of Jesus.
Speaker 3: Strange.
Speaker 7: There are multiple saints that had this ability to speak
in tongues and address people in a different language. Saint Dominic,
the founder of the Dominican Order, was in Germany and
he couldn't get through to the people there. He didn't
know the German language, and so he prayed that he
would be able to pass Jesus's message, and the next
day he spoke in fluent German and got the message
of Jesus across to the people of Germany. Saint Anthony
of Padua was once preaching to the Pope, and there
were cardinals from Greece and Italy, Germany, England, all these countries,
each with their own language, and he was so inspired
by the Holy Spirit that he was able to relate
the Word of God so well that everyone there understood
him as if they were hearing their own language. They
all belie believed that that was a renewed miracle of
the Pentecost, and it deepened their devotion, just like it
did for the people at the original Pentecost. And Saint
Anthony was also reported to have spoken French spontaneously when
he was in France and Italian when he was in Italy,
even though he didn't know either of those languages, supposedly,
and another strange aspect of the Apostolic speaking in tongues
is that the speaker can sometimes be heard across extraordinary distances,
where normal preaching speech wouldn't usually reach sure. And this
was the case with Saint Anthony when he was preaching,
and it was also the case with Saint Paul of
the Cross, who was considered to be gifted with speaking
in tongues. And on one occasion when he was preaching
in his usual voice, he was heard reportedly from five
miles away giving message, and he was also understood in
multiple languages while he was speaking Italian.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 7: And then there's one other person I wanted to mention
regarding this, and that is Teresa Neuman. And she was
the early twentieth century Bavarian girl who we mentioned in
the Stigmata report who grew up on a farm and
was uneducated. She was believed to have the gift of
speaking in tongues because she would go into these ecstasies
and while she was in them, and then afterward she
was able to speak in Greek, in Latin, and Hebrew
and in perfect Aramaic, the language of Jesus. Even though
she I mean, she was uneducated, she didn't know all
these languages, and multiple schools, universities came to her to
study her, to study the speech, and it was she
was recognized as a miracle because she was. They all
said this is correct whatever correct, Greek, correct, Hebrew right,
and nobody had an explanation for how she knew these languages.
Speaker 3: Let me just can I interject real quick here? What
think about it for a second. What could possibly be
at play here that someone who can't speak something like
Aramaic or a foreign language, no matter what it is,
Why would you or all of a sudden, be able
to speak it? You know what I mean. It's not
something that is in the air. You didn't grow up
around it, you know, you didn't hear anyone else speaking what? Yeah,
what could make you speak that? If you're if you
have not been exposed to it.
Speaker 7: Well I'm going to get into that, but I'll say
right now that you know, the believers, you know, attribute
it to the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is speaking
through you, so it's not really you. You're just the vessel.
And the Holy Spirit of course knows everything. So the
Holy Spirit knows those languages. But you know, when I
was researching this, I was thinking about Edgar Casey, who
was a twentieth century prophet and healer, and he was
called the Sleeping Prophet because he supposedly could sleep on
a book, I mean sleep with a book under his pillow,
and then know the book the next day down to
what happened on page thirty, paragraph two. And so he
was able also to heal people in a kind of
a sleep trance. He was able to diagnose and heal people.
And the thought was that during these kind of I
don't want to say out of body, he wasn't in
an ecstasy, but he was not in a waking conscious state,
and he was able to tap into some kind of
collective unconscious is the theory, and so he was able
to know these learn these things, know these things, and
help people the way he did. So maybe that could
be part of this too, you know, if there's a
if there is and some kind of Akashic records or
collective consciousness or something where you can just kind of
visit there and pull out these.
Speaker 3: Languages tap into it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, maybe that's what's going on. I'm not.
Speaker 3: Wow. I mean there are out theories, There are out
theories that everything there is to know is out there. Okay,
you just have to know how to tap into it,
you know, you just have to know how to train
your mind to do it. Now, if that is true,
I mean, there's instance is where yeah, we hear about
you know, people going into the triangle and make them
out as smart as they'd be a cosmonon, you know,
in two years or something like that. So it almost
seems like that's true. Also. The other thing that kind
of convinced me that is, I go back to this
a lot is every once in a while you'll see
these kids from Japan, they're four years old and then
playing Beethoven for you know, an hour and a half.
And he said, how does that happen? It's it's it's
almost impossible unless this idea that you can kind of
tap into, it's out there anyway, you just got to
find it.
Speaker 7: Go ahead, Brandy, Yeah, right, good example. I'm going to
get into the charismatic.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, sure.
Speaker 7: That is when an unintelligible language is kind of I
guess spoken by the faithful when they're in ecstasy of
the Holy Spirit. And it has only really been recordganized
in this way by the Pentecostal Order and other denominations
for about one hundred and twenty years, and it was
first witnessed at kind of a makeshift Revivalist church in
Los Angeles and castor there was really into the pentecost
and the gift of speaking in tongues, and his message
was that nobody was truly possessed by the Holy Spirit
until they had the gift of speaking in tongues. So
it kind of, I guess, motivated people to want to
speak in tongues or try to speak in tongues or
whatever so that they could prove that they were really
possessed by the Holy Spirit. And there was an emphasis
then on salvation through speaking in the tongues, and so
suddenly everybody started speaking in tongues, and then it became
a fact, kind of a Pentecostal.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 7: So in that kind of speaking in tongues, because it
is a language, it's the rhythm of it is like
it's a language, but it is not any kind of
known language to anyone in the world. And a lot
of times or most of the time, nobody's language is
the same as someone else's language when they're speaking in
tongues this way. But it has been described as the
language of angels, which is not to be interpreted by people.
It's for kind of a collaboration between yourself and the angels.
But it shows that you have been filled with the
Holy Spirit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well language angels speak. That's interesting.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that was that was one of the explanations. So
it helps to strengthen the faith of the believers and
it serves as a witness to the believers that there's
ecstasy in being filled with the Holy Spirit. So that
led me to, well, what does this do for you?
What does that do for them to speak in unintelligible languages? Okay,
so this is going to get a little bit esoteric,
but there is this three part podcast called Speaking in
Tongues that broke this down really well. And the Bible
teaches that God spoke creation into existence through divine speech,
and there are religious traditions where speech sounds themselves have
intrinsic meaning, so the actual sound means something apart from
the word that it's in. So when you speak in tongues,
the Holy Spirit is helping you to manifest everything that's
possible so that you can create through those sounds something
that maybe you're not consciously thinking of. And the thinking
is that if you allow your mind to produce these
sounds without forming an actual language, you're kind of super
consciously able to speak all of the possibilities or whatever
possibility for you into existence. And there is actually a
study done by the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine
on people who appeared to be speaking unintelligible and unknown
languages but that had a huge emotional impact on them
while they were speaking it like when they were in
a state of ecstasy, and the researchers recorded that during
this kind of speech there is decreased brain activity in
the frontal lobe, which is the area of the brain
associated with logic and self control, and brain imaging research
showed that the subjects were not in control of the
language centers during the act of speaking in tongues, which
matches their own perception of their lack of control in
their ecstatic state because they feel that they have no
control over what they're saying, the Holy Spirit is pulling
it through that Yes, in this kind of speech, the
speaker is able to release all logical and conscious limitations
that he has on his own language and able to
super consciously create some kind of infinite potential through sounds.
And the Christian believe that one way that the devil
can manipulate us is through our own consciousness and through
our logical thought processes like if we if we make
a statement, then automatically as soon as we make it,
like if I said, you know, I'm gonna paint my
house read all of a sudden, right away part of
my brain is thinking, yeah, but do you really want
to do that? You know, is it gonna devalue your house?
You're already sabotaging. And they think that that's the devil
creeping in to limit your potential.
Speaker 3: And so.
Speaker 7: I passed this conscious thinking by entering this state of
ecstasy and shutting down your language center, then the devil
can't take control of you. And what you are saying
is possible. Even though it's being spoken in a language
that you don't understand, your subconscious or super consciouciousness does
understand it. And the Holy Spirit is going to help
you fulfill that destiny whatever it is.
Speaker 3: Wow. Wow, Well I'm waiting for him to get me. Yes. Yes,
and it's really crazy. Yes, go ahead. Place.
Speaker 9: You know, individuals have been witnessed and speaking in tongues
during near death during dying, so that is also not common,
but it's it's certainly been witnessed many times.
Speaker 7: It actually happened to one of my uncles. Really, he
spoke a language that he didn't know, and I mean
it was it was Czechoslovakian, which was his heritage. But
he was uneducated. He hadn't hadn't even been to school,
and hadn't heard that language spoken.
Speaker 3: So I don't have to give it some.
Speaker 7: Kind of remnant or something that he recalled.
Speaker 1: But do you ever dream in another language?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Well I do, he really? Yeah, Well, but that's.
Speaker 1: It's my like we're Norwegian, but I mean I speak
Norwegian and I would imagine Norway. I have many dreams
like this and it's.
Speaker 3: Like, oh wow, wow, we get it.
Speaker 1: I don't really get it, but it's cool because you
think that's sometimes I think that's where'm supposed to be.
Speaker 3: That's all. It's like Norway, she goes someplace warmer. You
should learn how to play how to speak to Yeah,
well listen, we can't, Brandy. Can we give you in
a great organic round of applause? Yeah, awesome, Thank you
very much.
Speaker 6: In the side of the cross to as much as
I speaking in tongues as wild when you are speaking
in like in some of the ones you mentioned, the
person is speaking in let's say, their language, but the
people around them who don't speak that language are hearing.
Speaker 3: It in their hands their language.
Speaker 6: That's the part I mean that's even wilder then, you know, Okay,
I'm speaking something I don't know. But for me to
speak in something that everybody in the room interprets differently
and understands differently, that's way beyond just speaking. Beyond that's like,
wait a minute, how does that happen?
Speaker 5: It's like Star Trek with the universal translation.
Speaker 3: Exactly, switchy to bring it all around. Switch. It's time
to put up the image.
Speaker 5: You mean they can't, don't you.
Speaker 3: Well listen, I want to thank Brandy. Thank you Brandy
for that very educated, interested report speaking in tongues. Also,
I want to think, Kim, Shay, Kim, we're doing this randomly.
Thank you, Kim, thank you.
Speaker 1: It was enjoyment.
Speaker 3: It looks like a mohawk. Yeah, well, it looks like
he's a punk mohawk if you look at him like this,
no money, Yeah, yeah, definitely punk mohawk. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, you know, Timothy Leary and Cohen did all
those studies on LSD out of Berkeley, Yes, and one
of the strange aspects of what they had was people
babbling to each other and making no sense to him,
but to each other they would make.
Speaker 3: Sense if they're on acid. Yeah, okay, that makes.
Speaker 1: Sense to me anyway. I wanted to add that in
there than you.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but they're suppressing that part of their brain, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, very yeah.
Speaker 1: Well that idea about sounds that are it's not the word,
it's the sound in between. It's the It's like a
key going into a walk. It's not the key, it's
how it moves the tumblers that opens it.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: It's a very strange thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Anyway, Wow, okay, thank you, Kim. Thank you for
that for a while. Man, really, I'm trying to him
along with some French tracks. Also, Susan Kay, thank you
for joining us and for everything you do behind the scenes.
Thank you, Susan.
Speaker 10: It's my pleasure. Thank you so much for having me
so much fun.
Speaker 7: To be here.
Speaker 3: Same for us, believe me speaking of a lot of fun. Club,
thank you for joining us club Barrel laughs.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's been a I'd call it a learned experience
to that I was trying to describe tonight, and I
think learned experience.
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