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<v Speaker 1>It's time for coffee and company. Fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day, Now here's Nick Coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>We decided earlier this week that despite it being week

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<v Speaker 2>zero and none of the local teams playing college football

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<v Speaker 2>season is here, we're gonna say it, not second guess,

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<v Speaker 2>it's here, folks, and I'm excited about that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you should be too, to be honest with you, but

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<v Speaker 2>college basketball is still a big deal around here, and

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<v Speaker 2>we are in a unique spot to where both programs

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<v Speaker 2>here locally are starting completely over. Obviously, you all know

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<v Speaker 2>who's in place in Lexington and in Louisville, Pat Kelsey

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<v Speaker 2>taking over for the Cards and Mark Pope. I said

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<v Speaker 2>it right. I thought I was gonna say Mark steps

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Pope is the guy here in Lexing, well not

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<v Speaker 2>here in Lexing, but you know what I mean. And

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<v Speaker 2>I just think when it's new, there's excitement, and I

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<v Speaker 2>can sense the excitement on both sides. Who knows how

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<v Speaker 2>either of these coaches are going to end up doing,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, really different situations in regards to like

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<v Speaker 2>the shoes that have to be filled. Pat Kelcey, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean there's no doubt he's going to be a massive

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<v Speaker 2>upgrade from what we were used to in the last

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<v Speaker 2>couple of years. That's as maybe the most obvious thing

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<v Speaker 2>I've ever said on this show. And with Mark Pope.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't think anybody's worried about him being

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<v Speaker 2>able to knock off Saint Peter's in Oakland in the tournament,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, can he keep the Kentucky status where

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<v Speaker 2>Cali Perry had it to wear no matter what happened,

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<v Speaker 2>no matter who they lost to. If it was you know,

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<v Speaker 2>what's the guy's name who went off Jack something Goldie, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>if Golkie or the guy with the porn stashed it

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<v Speaker 2>played for Saint Peter's. You know, like, even despite all

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<v Speaker 2>that happening, cal would always build a roster that everybody

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<v Speaker 2>collectively within college basketball would tell you it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be good enough to win a national championship. Now, I

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<v Speaker 2>think it became pretty stale in Lexington because that was

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<v Speaker 2>always going to be the case as far as winning.

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<v Speaker 2>The offseason expectations being high, a new hall of talent,

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<v Speaker 2>guys that are probably gonna be taken in the NFL Draft,

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<v Speaker 2>all that kind of stuff, but they just they had

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<v Speaker 2>embarrassing losses. In the postseason and some embarrassing losses in

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<v Speaker 2>recent years in the regular season as well. So again,

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<v Speaker 2>these situations aren't exactly the same. But again, as far

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<v Speaker 2>as it being new and exciting, I think both fan

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<v Speaker 2>bases are in the same position there. So again, despite

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<v Speaker 2>it being August and football season now being here, I

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<v Speaker 2>do want to talk some college hoops because we found

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<v Speaker 2>out earlier today the field, well, we know the field.

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<v Speaker 2>We've known the field. We now know who's playing who

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to the Battle for Atlantis and Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>will take on Indiana in their first game, and if

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<v Speaker 2>they win, they'll play the winner of Gonzaga in West Virginia.

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<v Speaker 2>If they lose, they'll play the loser of Gonzaga in

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<v Speaker 2>West Virginia. So you're looking at two guaranteed games against

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<v Speaker 2>power for power five. It's gonna be weird now because

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<v Speaker 2>you can say power five in college basketball because the

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<v Speaker 2>Big East. It's power for in football. But I guess

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<v Speaker 2>it's always been inconsistent because before the Pac twelve died,

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<v Speaker 2>it was power five and football power six in basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, uh, I love this. You know, from a

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<v Speaker 2>fans perspective, somebody who wants to see where my team

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<v Speaker 2>stands every single time they take the floor. That's unrealistic

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<v Speaker 2>because you're gonna still play teams like butt crack Tech

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<v Speaker 2>or is it but was it butt cracked State?

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<v Speaker 3>But Tech butthole Tech and butt crack State.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, butthole Tech butt crack State. You cannot do not.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry. I would not want to get that wrong

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<v Speaker 2>in front of fans of either side. Right, It's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like, uh, apparently, and I don't know this firsthand

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<v Speaker 2>because I've not I've not been in the field in

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<v Speaker 2>the industry, but like, have you ever heard about it?

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<v Speaker 2>If you call a plumber a pipefitter or a pipe

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<v Speaker 2>fitter a plumber, I've.

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<v Speaker 3>Not heard that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you don't. They don't like that. Okay, Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't call a pipe fitter a plumber, and you don't

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<v Speaker 2>call a plumber a pipe fitter. A lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>kind of hear what they do loosely and they just assume, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you're a plumber. No, I'm not. I'm a pipe fitter.

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<v Speaker 3>Pipe fitters are the ones that are on those entertainers.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not cleaning stuff. He said it, not me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not getting into describing what these journeymen, these blue

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<v Speaker 2>collar workers do. That was him, John Alden, the company man,

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<v Speaker 2>not me.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not. You don't wanna, you don't wanna. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to act like you know what a what a

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<v Speaker 2>blue collar journeyman is out there doing. That's fair because

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<v Speaker 2>we look well, you know what they say about us,

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<v Speaker 2>we got soft hands compared to them. They're out there,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, work and deny it doing the hard work.

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<v Speaker 2>We're you know, we're pampered here in radio, which is true.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyways, butt crack Tech, I'm gonna get it, make

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<v Speaker 2>stuff tech. That's the og.

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<v Speaker 3>And then butt crack State was the rival that was

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<v Speaker 3>created this afternoon.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, you're still gonna play teams like that to

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<v Speaker 2>where you you get a chance to just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>work through some things. Maybe play some of your young guys,

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<v Speaker 2>win big and give the team a check on the

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<v Speaker 2>way out to come in and get their brains beat

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<v Speaker 2>in like that'll never go away in college athletics, unless,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, you do see a complete separation from the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of college sports, meaning the highest level in both

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<v Speaker 2>sports basketball football. Just decide, okay, yeah, it's quite clear

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<v Speaker 2>we are different than you know, the butthole texts and

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<v Speaker 2>the butt crack states out there that I get it right,

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<v Speaker 2>we got it. There we go. Yeah. So anyways, you're

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<v Speaker 2>always gonna have games like that, and honestly, when you

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<v Speaker 2>have a brand new team, that's probably needed in Louisville,

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<v Speaker 2>despite the competition not being very stiff down there in

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<v Speaker 2>the Bahamas, they still benefited from playing, you know, those

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<v Speaker 2>types of games against you know, another team different than themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>So from my end, again just talking about myself specifically

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<v Speaker 2>as a fan, I love this, but I'm curious if

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<v Speaker 2>Pat Kelcey is thrilled to see the schedule that he has.

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<v Speaker 2>I get the sense that he will want to always

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<v Speaker 2>embrace a challenging non conference schedule because he knows at

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville that's what you should do. You should play in

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<v Speaker 2>big games against good teams where there's value there and

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<v Speaker 2>it's a big time atmosphere, right, I mean, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean Louisville playing a very weak non conference schedule

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<v Speaker 2>like every year just doesn't make any sense. And they

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<v Speaker 2>don't by the way, And honestly, I mean this is

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of a stretch, but I'm gonna say

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<v Speaker 2>it anyway, You're not far from the point where you've

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<v Speaker 2>got to make sure you have a very challenging non

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<v Speaker 2>conference schedule and you know, and you win a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of games throughout that because you just don't have the

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<v Speaker 2>ability in the ACC like you used to to just

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you could have two games above five hundred

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<v Speaker 2>as your record in the ACC in a previous world,

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<v Speaker 2>and it wouldn't be a shock if you're safely in

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<v Speaker 2>the tournament with a decent seed, because you know, seventy

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<v Speaker 2>percent of the games you play are against good teams

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<v Speaker 2>that are probably gonna be in the tournament. That's not

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<v Speaker 2>what the ACC is anymore. So anyways, Love is always

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have a tough and challenging non conference schedule, But

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<v Speaker 2>this is the I mean again, we'll never know until

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<v Speaker 2>you get towards the end of the year and you

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<v Speaker 2>look back and see just how good these teams were.

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<v Speaker 2>But right now, as the schedule has officially been released

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<v Speaker 2>and you look at you know, you look at everybody

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<v Speaker 2>as far as what they're supposed to be this year,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's a stretch to say non conference specifically,

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<v Speaker 2>this is one of the more challenging schedules that I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen for Louisville. I mean again, we'll start with your

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<v Speaker 2>second game of the season November ninth against Tennessee, who,

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, I checked every preseason ranking I could find.

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<v Speaker 2>I looked at five of them. They all have Tennessee

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<v Speaker 2>in the top fifteen. You got Bellerman and then Winthrop.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are games you know you should win. You know

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna throw those out there as oh wow,

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<v Speaker 2>those help support my case that this is a very

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<v Speaker 2>challenging non conference schedule. No offense to those teams, but

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<v Speaker 2>they don't. And then you look at Indiana Indiana. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I actually feel like Indiana in some of these rankings

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<v Speaker 2>that I've seen, not to say they're getting disrespected because

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<v Speaker 2>they weren't very good last year, they missed the tournament,

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<v Speaker 2>and they are, you know, banking on their transfers being

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<v Speaker 2>really really productive, just like a lot of other teams are.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think if you look at the roster on paper,

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<v Speaker 2>I love what they brought in and the guys they

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<v Speaker 2>brought back I think were guys that you would want

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<v Speaker 2>to come back to Indiana if you if you're a

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<v Speaker 2>Hoosier and they have one freshman who what's his name?

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<v Speaker 2>The best President Tucker. He's believed to be one of

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<v Speaker 2>the best freshmen in the Big tens. So like this

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<v Speaker 2>is Indiana is top fifty team, top twenty depending on

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<v Speaker 2>where you look, but there are a consensus, I believe,

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<v Speaker 2>top twenty caliber team, Gonzaga consensus top five team. Now

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<v Speaker 2>West Virginia. They were really bad last year and they're

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<v Speaker 2>a team that like they could beat you, trust me,

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<v Speaker 2>but they're not one that, like on November twenty eighth,

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<v Speaker 2>if that's who they play in that second day in

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<v Speaker 2>the Bahamas, that's one that if Louisville wins, you probably

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<v Speaker 2>have to just wait and see if there's really any

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<v Speaker 2>value there. And I would bank more so on it

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<v Speaker 2>not being looked at as like a resume win. Now again,

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<v Speaker 2>because they play in the Big Twelve. This is where

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<v Speaker 2>I just nerd out on college basketball folks. Because they

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<v Speaker 2>play in the Big Twelve. They could be a non

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<v Speaker 2>tournament team five hundred overall, not a threat. But because

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<v Speaker 2>they play night in and night out in the Big Twelve,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a really deep league, I'd be willing to

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<v Speaker 2>bet that there is going to be some metrics out there,

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<v Speaker 2>like the Ken Palm, like the net that think West

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<v Speaker 2>Virginia is a lot better than they actually are because

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<v Speaker 2>of their conference, So you actually can end up getting

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<v Speaker 2>value there just from the numbers perspective. So you know

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<v Speaker 2>that alone gives you I mean, those are those are

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<v Speaker 2>challenging games. And then you don't have a clue who

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna end up playing. I guess just looking at

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<v Speaker 2>the bracket here, you'll end you know, you're either gonna

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<v Speaker 2>end up well, I guess, could it be a variety

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<v Speaker 2>of teams. Let me just pull up the bracketers. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, let's say you, Let's say you. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess there could be any of these teams in the

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<v Speaker 2>lower side, right, like, it depends on what happens. But

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of the field is Arizona, who is another

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<v Speaker 2>team that by all accounts preseason top ten, some say

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<v Speaker 2>top five, and then Davidson Providence in Oklahoma. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think with Indiana and Gonzaga sort of being in your pod,

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<v Speaker 2>your pool, if you will, you've got a chance to

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<v Speaker 2>play the two best teams in this event. Now, again,

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<v Speaker 2>Arizona is probably gonna be ranked a little higher than Indiana,

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<v Speaker 2>but I would trust Indiana's team a little more than

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<v Speaker 2>I would Arizona. Tommy Lloyd's a great coach. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I just again, I'm not what I think of Indiana,

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<v Speaker 2>to be honest with you really didn't have anyth dude,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think they've got.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I guess I can't say that that's not warranted,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not to say his resume is terrible. The guy

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<v Speaker 2>has only been a college coach for what three years

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<v Speaker 2>now four, It's not like it's a long, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty year run. To kind of get a sense for him,

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<v Speaker 2>he like, this is a year where you're gonna you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna decide as a college basketball fan what you think

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<v Speaker 2>of him as a coach, right, Like you probably have

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<v Speaker 2>an opinion now, but like year four will kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like maybe fighting for his job at the end. Of

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<v Speaker 2>the year. But I think you take personnel alone and

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<v Speaker 2>you put that roster next to let's say Mark Few,

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<v Speaker 2>they would be viewed as a much more feared team

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<v Speaker 2>in college basketball as of right now. And I guess

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<v Speaker 2>that's just how it works, because again, Mark Vee has

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<v Speaker 2>the process of kind of, you know, showing what he

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<v Speaker 3>And this will be the event that really kind of

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<v Speaker 3>shows if Indiana's for real this year, if they can

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<v Speaker 3>win at least two of three or even win the

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<v Speaker 3>whole thing, I mean, they'll be a contender for college basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And you know what I love about these early

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<v Speaker 2>events is that it's college basketball overload and you usually

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<v Speaker 2>get really good matchups in the Battle for Atlantis, which

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<v Speaker 3>You know, the East have the two K Classic, I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's been renamed. You have the the not the

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, You've got the Jimmy V. Classic, You've got the

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<v Speaker 2>n i T. The they call it the preseason n

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<v Speaker 2>i T when it's actually you know, an end season event.

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<v Speaker 2>But like the in Heck, there's events that take place.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean there's all kinds of these MTS multi team

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<v Speaker 2>events that take place around Thanksgiving, and I love it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I hate it in real time because nobody really

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<v Speaker 2>reacts strongly about one way, Like because it's so early,

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<v Speaker 2>people either downplay a loss as who cares or downplay

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<v Speaker 2>a win like, yeah, you know, we'll see what it

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<v Speaker 2>looks like at the end of the season. Because like,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, Louisville could lose to Tennessee but beat you know,

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<v Speaker 2>but beat morehead Bellerman Winthrop that lose to Tennessee, lose

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<v Speaker 2>to Indiana, and then let's say they beat West Virginia

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<v Speaker 2>and then they end up losing to let's say they

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<v Speaker 2>lose to I don't know, Arizona. If somehow the bracket

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<v Speaker 2>played out that way, they'd come home looking like a

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<v Speaker 2>team with no win to speak of, probably and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>losses to good teams, but you know, right, My point

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<v Speaker 2>is that Indiana and whoever Arizona would not look as

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<v Speaker 2>if they're getting any value because louisvill would be what

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<v Speaker 2>one game above five hundred. Yet when you've revisited at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of December or whatever, or I'm sorry, not

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<v Speaker 2>the end of December, the end of February, it may

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<v Speaker 2>look like, Okay, Louisville is in the driver's seat to

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<v Speaker 2>be a top three finisher in the ACC to where hey,

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<v Speaker 2>Indiana's feeling pretty good. That's a win that has value.

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<v Speaker 2>So I get it. It's just, man, in a time

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<v Speaker 2>when nobody really is watching college basketball all that much

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<v Speaker 2>at the national level because football's going on, it just

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I feel like, are anybody seeing this

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<v Speaker 2>we got I mean, these are games going on in

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<v Speaker 2>the Bahamas. You've got Indiana, Louisville, Gonzaga, Arizona. This is

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<v Speaker 2>crazy and yet, like, unless you're just a dialhard fan

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<v Speaker 2>of college hoops or a dialwheard fan of one of

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<v Speaker 2>these teams, it just doesn't feel like people care that much.

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<v Speaker 2>And I get it. NFL's king at that point in Thanksgiving.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, this game will be played in the

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<v Speaker 2>Battle for Atlantis.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the day before Thanksgiving.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so, like there's so much else going on, so

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<v Speaker 2>I understand it. It's just as a college basketball super fan,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I just wish that people put a little

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<v Speaker 2>more incentive on it in real time because there's a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of a watered down field to these Thanksgiving events.

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<v Speaker 2>Just because it almost has a fiel to where it's

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<v Speaker 2>like preseason and nobody really cares because you know, in

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<v Speaker 2>two months these teams are gonna be way different, which

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<v Speaker 2>again that's valid, but I mean, these are big time programs, man,

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<v Speaker 2>and when you do get to selection Sunday, regardless of

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<v Speaker 2>what you just said about these games, when they took place,

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<v Speaker 2>they do matter, they have value. So again with Louisville,

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<v Speaker 2>I love the fact that they're in this They're in

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<v Speaker 2>this event, and I'm gonna want to see where they

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<v Speaker 2>stand against Mike Woodson. I'm gonna want to see where

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<v Speaker 2>they stand against whoever they play the next game, if

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<v Speaker 2>it's West Virginia, if it's Gonzaga, and whoever that third

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<v Speaker 2>game is. But I gotta wonder if Pat Kelsey is

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<v Speaker 2>either enthusiastic, and I knowing what I know about him

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<v Speaker 2>as far as just how he's wired as a competitor,

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<v Speaker 2>I would imagine he's not crying himself to sleep thinking

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<v Speaker 2>he's a victim of this tough schedule, because what are

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<v Speaker 2>you gonna do. You can't change it, but it is

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<v Speaker 2>a very challenging schedule. Even if the circumstances weren't what

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<v Speaker 2>they are with a brand new team, all new players

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<v Speaker 2>that have never really played together other than in practice

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<v Speaker 2>and in that trip to the Bahamas. So as soon

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<v Speaker 2>as they get back from the Bahamas very short break,

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<v Speaker 2>they'll play their last game on Friday, and on Tuesday

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna host Ole Miss, another team that is consensus

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<v Speaker 2>preseason top twenty five. Some have them in the top

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<v Speaker 2>twenty nine. Everybody had them there, but they're gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>top twenty five. And then you play UTEP know nothing

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<v Speaker 2>about them. Then you play Kentucky in Lexington. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>care about Mark Pope in their new team. I can't

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<v Speaker 2>imagine Kentucky won't be ranked then. But either way, you

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<v Speaker 2>were playing kent in rupp Arena in a rivalry game.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a tough game, regardless of where they're ranked

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<v Speaker 2>at that time or whatever happens before then. That is

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<v Speaker 2>a game that anybody with a brain would say, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's you know, that's another good data point to throw

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<v Speaker 2>out there when you're trying to emphasize that Pat Kelsey

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<v Speaker 2>has himself a very tough schedule. So again, we're just

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<v Speaker 2>talking non conference here, and I can't think of a

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<v Speaker 2>year where it'd be a little dip, Like if Kentucky

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<v Speaker 2>had cal and they're coming off another a big run

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<v Speaker 2>in the tournament, which I say, another that hasn't happened,

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<v Speaker 2>that didn't happen for a while, which is why he's gone.

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<v Speaker 2>But like if Kentucky had the same type of preseason

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<v Speaker 2>love now that they typically would get for col I

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<v Speaker 2>don't I'd have a hard time finding a schedule that

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<v Speaker 2>again as of you know, August, it's it's easily. It's

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<v Speaker 2>easy to forget if you get to the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the year in a schedule you thought was really tough

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<v Speaker 2>ended up being not tough at all. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>all we can do is evaluate where we are today

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<v Speaker 2>when I look at what is on the slate here

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<v Speaker 2>for Pat Kelsey in non conference games, this is a tough,

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<v Speaker 2>tough schedule, and I think they've got the piece to

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<v Speaker 2>where they could be competitive and win some of these games,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe win a bunch of them. I don't know. But

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<v Speaker 2>today when I saw that, it was Indiana first, and

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<v Speaker 2>then if you get past them easier said than done,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, then you'd probably play Gonzaga, a top five

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<v Speaker 2>team like this is. And again I love it because

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<v Speaker 2>from my perspective alone, and I know we've already had

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of people said on the text line, you

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<v Speaker 2>love this schedule, but are you gonna love it whenever

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<v Speaker 2>they get curb stumped. Well, I don't think they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to get curb stump, but if they do, yeah, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>be sad. But I you know, as a fan, there's

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<v Speaker 2>never been a scenario where Louisville has played a really

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<v Speaker 2>tough team and they've been humbled and lost, and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it's in embarrassing fashion. There's never been a time where

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<v Speaker 2>that's happened. I mean, that has happened, but there's never

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<v Speaker 2>been a time where that's happened. And I thought to myself, Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>I wish we would have had butt Crack stayed in

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<v Speaker 2>here instead of you know, a top five team, Like

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<v Speaker 2>you should want to play really good teams regardless, just

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<v Speaker 2>because there's value there. And I don't mean just value

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<v Speaker 2>as far as as a fan learning. Okay, did my

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<v Speaker 2>team pass the test or not? But your resume and

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<v Speaker 2>I just feel like it's always such a you know,

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<v Speaker 2>from a fans perspective, I'm speaking as a consumer of

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<v Speaker 2>the product. Someone say I'm speaking from it, you know selfishly,

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<v Speaker 2>but hey, I mean, I'm talking only for me here.

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<v Speaker 2>When you play those nobodies, it's a waste of time

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<v Speaker 2>in my opinion for me as a consumer. Now as

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<v Speaker 2>a coach, you're like, hell, yeah, give me all these

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<v Speaker 2>games against Winthrop and exhibitions because I need these guys

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<v Speaker 2>to work on stuff against other teams. I need to

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<v Speaker 2>get these guys more reps together. It's a brand new team,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm looking at it from a totally different lens

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<v Speaker 2>than what someone like Pat Kelsey would look at it

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<v Speaker 2>as I mean, I mean, it's not that I'm like

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<v Speaker 2>dreading a game when they play one of these teams,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's not at all how I approach it. Anytime

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<v Speaker 2>you get a chance to watch your team play, you

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<v Speaker 2>should be you know, you should be excited and you

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<v Speaker 2>know hopeful that they win. But it's just, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it all two things. It always feels like a

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<v Speaker 2>waste of time. And I hate when you do beat

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<v Speaker 2>a team by twenty five and then you look down

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<v Speaker 2>two days later at your net ranking or your Ken

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<v Speaker 2>palm and you fell because the team you played is

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<v Speaker 2>so bad. He'd have to beat them by like fifty

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<v Speaker 2>four to really boost up your metrics. That to me

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<v Speaker 2>is just so stupid. But it's where we are in

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<v Speaker 2>college basketball with how they you know, how they value

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<v Speaker 2>who's good and who's not. And also, I guess, honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>I have a little bit of PTSD because recently, like

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<v Speaker 2>Winthrop teams like that, they beat Kenny Payne, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean. So like just seeing a guinea Payne

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<v Speaker 2>would lose to you know, a real team, it didn't

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<v Speaker 2>stay as bad because you know, we knew we stunk,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know it was going to be going, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>viral in the college basketball world if Louisville lost to

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<v Speaker 2>you know, UNBC like they nearly did in their opener

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<v Speaker 2>last year, or to Chattanooga who got him last year

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<v Speaker 2>went and Chattanooga came in and beat him.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was there was a couple and then

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<v Speaker 3>they didn't. They barely beat a team with four players

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<v Speaker 3>on the floor on the yead New Mexico State.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and by the way, I probably missed this when

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<v Speaker 2>I was on vacation, but I'm just now seeing the

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<v Speaker 2>non conference schedule that shows the exhibition opponents. So Louisville's

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<v Speaker 2>exhibitions are going to be against young Harris College. Have

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<v Speaker 2>you ever heard of Young Harris College.

417
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<v Speaker 3>I feel like they're in Pennsylvania. But I don't know

418
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<v Speaker 3>why you schedule an exhibition with somebody that far away,

419
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<v Speaker 3>so that could be way off.

420
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<v Speaker 2>Well, usually these exhibitions, I mean sometimes they're just truly random. Yeah,

421
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<v Speaker 2>and sometimes these schools don't want to play these games.

422
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<v Speaker 2>But Young Harris is in Georgia, Yeah, what do I

423
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<v Speaker 2>Usually there's usually there's a there's there's like a there's

424
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<v Speaker 2>like a a connection, if you will, Like there's like

425
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<v Speaker 2>like a coach or something like that.

426
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<v Speaker 3>Like, yeah, I mean, like I'm trying to think Indiana

427
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<v Speaker 3>plays Marion. That's where Pat Knight's coaching right now, Bob.

428
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<v Speaker 2>Her go Son, That's that makes total sense. And here's

429
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<v Speaker 2>a great connection. And I don't know why this one

430
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<v Speaker 2>didn't come to me right away, maybe again because it's

431
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<v Speaker 2>PTSD something I'm trying not to think about. But the

432
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<v Speaker 2>reason that Louisville played Lenoa Ryan LeAnn Rimes is because

433
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<v Speaker 2>Everick Sullivan was their coach who played at Louisville. And

434
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if he played with Kenny Payne, but

435
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<v Speaker 2>he is a former Louisville player who I believe played

436
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<v Speaker 2>on a h played on a National chamampionship team. So

437
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<v Speaker 2>you know, that's why that's why this random Division two

438
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<v Speaker 2>team was on the schedule because their head coach at

439
00:20:06.039 --> 00:20:08.359
<v Speaker 2>the time was a Louisville alum. So usually there's connections there.

440
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know of a connection with young Harris, but

441
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<v Speaker 2>maybe there is one. And by the way, isn't it

442
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<v Speaker 2>wild to know that Everck Sullivan outlasted Kenny Payne. Yeah

443
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<v Speaker 2>he was. I'm sorry, sorry, Kenny, I said that wrong.

444
00:20:20.079 --> 00:20:24.759
<v Speaker 2>Kenny Payne outlasted him. Everck Sullivan was fired or forced out,

445
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<v Speaker 2>I guess before Kenny Payne was, which it was kind of.

446
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they both got fired and moved on from

447
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<v Speaker 2>however you want to look at it at the end

448
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<v Speaker 2>of both seasons, but you know, their season ended a

449
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<v Speaker 2>little bit soon. I remember seeing like that is wow,

450
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<v Speaker 2>this guy actually came in and beat Louisville in an

451
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<v Speaker 2>exhibition game as a D two coach, and they still

452
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<v Speaker 2>were so bad that like they didn't keep him. I mean,

453
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<v Speaker 2>that'll be the best win they ever had against anybody

454
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<v Speaker 2>at Lenola. Ryan. And by the way, when that team

455
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<v Speaker 2>beat Louisville, I think people know this. I think it

456
00:20:52.839 --> 00:20:55.519
<v Speaker 2>was like a known thing. Their two best players didn't

457
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<v Speaker 2>play in that game when they beat Louisville, and they

458
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<v Speaker 2>didn't just beat them like they one pretty comfortably. Now

459
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<v Speaker 2>the other exhibition game, and I feel like this has

460
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<v Speaker 2>got to be the first time that Louisville has played

461
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<v Speaker 2>this team in an exhibition game. Spaulding. Shout out to Spaulding,

462
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<v Speaker 2>Spaulding will be your exhibition opponent. And it's rare that

463
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<v Speaker 2>you see, you know, Division one, you know, power programs

464
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<v Speaker 2>like Louisville play Division three teams in an exhibition. Now

465
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<v Speaker 2>the connection here is obviously there's just they're just down

466
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<v Speaker 2>the street. But Spaulding, as a Division three team, used

467
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<v Speaker 2>to be nai whenever I was in school, and I

468
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<v Speaker 2>believe they're still led by coach Gray, Yeah, who's been

469
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<v Speaker 2>coaching there a long long time. In fact, his son,

470
00:21:38.440 --> 00:21:41.160
<v Speaker 2>Tim Gray, associate head coach, was a staffer for the

471
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<v Speaker 2>Louisville twenty thirteen national championship team. So yeah, those are

472
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<v Speaker 2>your exhibition opponents. Those, of course don't factor into what

473
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<v Speaker 2>I've been discussing in regards to a loaded non conference schedule,

474
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<v Speaker 2>because these aren't real games. But hey, let's not act

475
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<v Speaker 2>like we don't look at these a little bit differently

476
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<v Speaker 2>now than we did prior to the Kinny Payne era,

477
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<v Speaker 2>because you know, he lost to these teams. Kenny Payne

478
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<v Speaker 2>does not have a winning record against exhibition opponents. It's

479
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<v Speaker 2>crazy to say, but it's true. All right, quick break,

480
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<v Speaker 2>we'll come back on the other side. Keep this thing

481
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<v Speaker 2>rolling along. We'll revisit the Amari Huggins Bruce situation. I'm

482
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<v Speaker 2>now ready to move on from calling it a rumor

483
00:22:20.720 --> 00:22:23.559
<v Speaker 2>because there's clearly something here as far as it actually

484
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<v Speaker 2>being able to happen him transferring back to Louisville to

485
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<v Speaker 2>join the team for the upcoming season. I guess it's possible,

486
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<v Speaker 2>but I still feel like it's I'm leaning towards doubtful,

487
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<v Speaker 2>but we'll revisit that. For those who missed it at

488
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<v Speaker 2>the beginning of the show, it's Coffee and Company. We

489
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<v Speaker 2>are feel about Thornton's right here on Sports Talk seven

490
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<v Speaker 2>to ninety sticking with college basketball here, we did talk

491
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<v Speaker 2>a little bit earlier in regards to In fact, we've

492
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<v Speaker 2>just spent a lot of time out at the beginning

493
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<v Speaker 2>of this hour about Louisville basketball's non conference schedule, as

494
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<v Speaker 2>we now know who they're going to be facing in

495
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<v Speaker 2>their first game in the Battle for Atlantis, which is Indiana,

496
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<v Speaker 2>and real quick before we move on to what I

497
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<v Speaker 2>was going to get to in regards to something John

498
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<v Speaker 2>Caliperry is doing, there's no doubt like it's gonna take

499
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<v Speaker 2>a long time for like, I think it's as long

500
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<v Speaker 2>as Mike Woodson is in Indiana at Bloomington as their

501
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<v Speaker 2>head coach. Anytime his name comes up for any reason

502
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<v Speaker 2>or if there's ever any other potential matchup between Louisville

503
00:23:16.160 --> 00:23:18.799
<v Speaker 2>and Indiana, all Louisville fans are going to bring up

504
00:23:18.839 --> 00:23:20.720
<v Speaker 2>the fact that he tricked Kenny Payne. Did you see

505
00:23:20.720 --> 00:23:23.880
<v Speaker 2>how whenever like that that thing? Really it was. I

506
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<v Speaker 2>mean I've not seen anybody sharing like the clip of it,

507
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<v Speaker 2>but like as soon as the matchup was announced, it

508
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<v Speaker 2>was Cards versus Hoosiers, a bunch of Louisville fans hoping,

509
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<v Speaker 2>you know, saying they hope that he doesn't trick us again,

510
00:23:33.519 --> 00:23:36.079
<v Speaker 2>or that I te Kelsey. Yeah, Pat Kelsey will be

511
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<v Speaker 2>prepared for, you know, for any tricks that he might have.

512
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that was not I've never felt bad for

513
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<v Speaker 2>Kenny Payne. I would have. I would have felt very

514
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<v Speaker 2>sorry for Kenny if he was that big of a

515
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<v Speaker 2>failure as a coach and he had any any humility

516
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<v Speaker 2>and he had any awareness. I mean, he literally still

517
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<v Speaker 2>to this day believes that he was wronged here and

518
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<v Speaker 2>that he was a good coach. And it's just insane

519
00:23:57.640 --> 00:23:59.759
<v Speaker 2>that somebody can have a mind that operates that way,

520
00:23:59.799 --> 00:24:03.119
<v Speaker 2>but not the less. Like that's the like if you

521
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<v Speaker 2>just say, yeah, he went zone. We weren't expecting it.

522
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<v Speaker 2>He went zone, you know, and we we didn't we

523
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<v Speaker 2>didn't execute. But he he's he laughed and said he

524
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<v Speaker 2>tricked me, and like that's just like the one thing

525
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<v Speaker 2>you can't do unless you're seeking to look as if

526
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<v Speaker 2>you do not have any business being a head coach anywhere.

527
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<v Speaker 2>And that's that's what he did. But anyways, uh, John

528
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<v Speaker 2>Caliperry again, we talked about it yesterday because we now

529
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<v Speaker 2>know Arkansas is going to make their make the trip

530
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<v Speaker 2>to Lexington on February first, which is a Saturday, and

531
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<v Speaker 2>that's gonna be a tough tough ticket to get. We

532
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<v Speaker 2>all know that. But Cali Perry, you know, he loves

533
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<v Speaker 2>these big time games right where he gets a chance

534
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<v Speaker 2>to maybe have a standalone game on a national network

535
00:24:44.160 --> 00:24:46.720
<v Speaker 2>and you know, just use that airtime, use that exposure

536
00:24:46.759 --> 00:24:49.519
<v Speaker 2>that you get on CBS or ESPN or ABC to

537
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<v Speaker 2>really just you know, pump up his program and build

538
00:24:51.759 --> 00:24:53.799
<v Speaker 2>that brand that he's that he's you know, and we

539
00:24:53.920 --> 00:24:56.079
<v Speaker 2>got his brand, by the way, is him not UK

540
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<v Speaker 2>not Arkansas him? So now he's just taking it to Arkansas.

541
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<v Speaker 2>And yesterday we just us the Illinois matchup. They're gonna

542
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<v Speaker 2>play Illinois on Thanksgiving following an NFL game, which I

543
00:25:04.480 --> 00:25:07.880
<v Speaker 2>happen to think is brilliant in regards to just viewership

544
00:25:07.920 --> 00:25:09.680
<v Speaker 2>that's going to be there. And it's just another thing

545
00:25:09.720 --> 00:25:12.240
<v Speaker 2>that Caliperi can add, you know, because here's the thing.

546
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<v Speaker 2>Because it's Thanksgiving and it's following an NFL game, the

547
00:25:16.279 --> 00:25:18.519
<v Speaker 2>people who watch the beginning like that game will be

548
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<v Speaker 2>very highly rated, and it may be really highly rated

549
00:25:20.400 --> 00:25:21.920
<v Speaker 2>because it might be a great game that people are

550
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<v Speaker 2>interested in. But even if it's not you following an

551
00:25:24.839 --> 00:25:28.319
<v Speaker 2>NFL game on Thanksgiving on CBS, you're going you're walking

552
00:25:28.400 --> 00:25:30.920
<v Speaker 2>and you're waking up to a big rating. And at

553
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<v Speaker 2>the end of the year he can still clout or

554
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<v Speaker 2>shout about you know, I guess clouding is he can

555
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<v Speaker 2>still have the cloud is what I meant to say.

556
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<v Speaker 2>My mine's not working today too much, butthole text and

557
00:25:41.480 --> 00:25:44.640
<v Speaker 2>butt stuff and we dove into the weeds way too early. Yeah,

558
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<v Speaker 2>I fried my brain early on in the earlier in

559
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<v Speaker 2>the show that I typically do it. Anyways, you know,

560
00:25:49.599 --> 00:25:51.519
<v Speaker 2>he can still say that he had one of the

561
00:25:51.559 --> 00:25:53.720
<v Speaker 2>most watched games in the regular season and it wasn't

562
00:25:53.759 --> 00:25:56.079
<v Speaker 2>a Kentucky and this proves that it's me and not UK.

563
00:25:56.240 --> 00:25:58.039
<v Speaker 2>Like he would never say that word for word, but

564
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<v Speaker 2>you know that's that's what he wants to be able

565
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<v Speaker 2>to say and wants to be able to show. Well, now,

566
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how did they just now announce this.

567
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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they've known that these teams were going to be

568
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<v Speaker 2>in the event, But Arkansas and Michigan are going to

569
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<v Speaker 2>play each other in the Jimmy V Classic, and I'm

570
00:26:13.559 --> 00:26:16.119
<v Speaker 2>reading here that they just unveiled, like who's participating. So

571
00:26:16.359 --> 00:26:19.720
<v Speaker 2>December tenth at Madison Square Garden, nine o'clock, it's going

572
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<v Speaker 2>to be a Michigan taking on Arkansas, which should be

573
00:26:22.119 --> 00:26:25.519
<v Speaker 2>a good non conference game. Two coaches at two new stops.

574
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<v Speaker 2>Obviously much different stories there for John Caliperry and Dusty

575
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<v Speaker 2>May but again no surprise, John Calla Perry. In order

576
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<v Speaker 2>for him to continue to maintain the brand that he

577
00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:40.400
<v Speaker 2>has with himself regardless of what program he's at. We

578
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<v Speaker 2>bring in future NBA players, We give you the path

579
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<v Speaker 2>to the NBA. We move the needle. We have the

580
00:26:46.039 --> 00:26:49.079
<v Speaker 2>most watched games. And again, Kentucky basketball will always be

581
00:26:49.119 --> 00:26:52.680
<v Speaker 2>a bigger a bigger draw than anything Arkansas is doing

582
00:26:52.720 --> 00:26:55.720
<v Speaker 2>that just you know, unless Kentucky's irrelevant. But like if

583
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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky's really good and Arkansas is really good and Col's

584
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<v Speaker 2>at Arkansas, Kentucky will still have a big or reach

585
00:27:00.519 --> 00:27:04.319
<v Speaker 2>because it's Kentucky. But Arkansas. Again, this is cal doing

586
00:27:04.359 --> 00:27:07.599
<v Speaker 2>some doing some things differently in regards to scheduling that

587
00:27:07.680 --> 00:27:12.079
<v Speaker 2>you saw from you know, from Eric Musselman. So anyways, uh,

588
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<v Speaker 2>let's go to the text line five OOT two six

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591
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<v Speaker 2>Federal Credit Union. You can learn more and open your

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<v Speaker 2>account today at LNFCU dot com. All right, this text says, Nick,

593
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<v Speaker 2>I believe you're the only Louisville guy I listened to

594
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<v Speaker 2>that I've yet to hear talk about Isaac Brown, the

595
00:27:31.119 --> 00:27:35.319
<v Speaker 2>true freshman at Louisville. You hear in anything like the others, Well,

596
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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure what the others are hearing. And I

597
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<v Speaker 2>will say this, Uh, I can't speak for it what

598
00:27:39.880 --> 00:27:42.400
<v Speaker 2>anybody else is saying, but you are right. I don't

599
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<v Speaker 2>know if I've mentioned Isaac Brown really at all, other

600
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<v Speaker 2>than just knowing he is one of the more highly

601
00:27:48.079 --> 00:27:52.599
<v Speaker 2>regarded true freshmen on this Louisville roster. Obviously, he was

602
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<v Speaker 2>a big name on signing day because you know, he's

603
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<v Speaker 2>a big he's a big time recruit from Miami. But

604
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<v Speaker 2>two things. He was named a preseason Freshman All American

605
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<v Speaker 2>by ESPN, which is pretty pretty rare for a guy

606
00:28:05.359 --> 00:28:07.839
<v Speaker 2>from Louisll. I mean, Louislle has had some good recruits

607
00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:12.440
<v Speaker 2>over the years, but ESPN preseason first Team All American

608
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<v Speaker 2>for you know, for freshmen, like it's you know again,

609
00:28:14.839 --> 00:28:16.519
<v Speaker 2>Just to be clear if I didn't say that clear

610
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<v Speaker 2>enough right away, this is the freshman All American team,

611
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<v Speaker 2>So not in All American in regards to everybody in

612
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<v Speaker 2>college football. But yes, that that speaks to sort of

613
00:28:24.319 --> 00:28:26.559
<v Speaker 2>the hype that he has. I think it also speaks

614
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<v Speaker 2>to the fact that people are now not you know,

615
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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to newcomers, the guys people are talking

616
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<v Speaker 2>about the most that you want to see out there

617
00:28:33.279 --> 00:28:36.960
<v Speaker 2>is it's mostly going to be big, big name transfers,

618
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<v Speaker 2>or it's going to be freshmen that have this type

619
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<v Speaker 2>of a resume. And yeah, I mean I won't I

620
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<v Speaker 2>won't misleeg you as if I'm hearing anything like special

621
00:28:46.680 --> 00:28:49.279
<v Speaker 2>or crazy. But I did talk to somebody on Monday

622
00:28:49.799 --> 00:28:53.559
<v Speaker 2>that mentioned, you know, he could potentially step in and

623
00:28:53.640 --> 00:28:56.000
<v Speaker 2>be a guy that you see play some slot receiver

624
00:28:56.559 --> 00:29:00.240
<v Speaker 2>with Colin Lacy out Now. I don't know, so if

625
00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:02.880
<v Speaker 2>you want it, I don't think they're committed to like

626
00:29:02.960 --> 00:29:05.880
<v Speaker 2>having him learn a new position because he's a true freshman.

627
00:29:06.119 --> 00:29:07.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean, how much do you really want to put

628
00:29:07.640 --> 00:29:10.839
<v Speaker 2>on a true freshman as far as learning and getting acclimated.

629
00:29:10.880 --> 00:29:12.359
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's tough enough it's a true freshman to

630
00:29:12.400 --> 00:29:14.720
<v Speaker 2>learn the one position you're going to play. But he's

631
00:29:14.759 --> 00:29:16.319
<v Speaker 2>a guy that it sounds like it's going to be really,

632
00:29:16.400 --> 00:29:20.200
<v Speaker 2>really hard to not have on the field. And I

633
00:29:20.240 --> 00:29:23.440
<v Speaker 2>mean what I was told is that it may come

634
00:29:23.480 --> 00:29:25.279
<v Speaker 2>down to the fact that they've got some good running

635
00:29:25.319 --> 00:29:29.319
<v Speaker 2>backs with Murray's Turner. You kind of know what you

636
00:29:29.359 --> 00:29:31.759
<v Speaker 2>have with Cheney for Miami the transfer. He's not a

637
00:29:31.799 --> 00:29:33.440
<v Speaker 2>guy that's going to turn on the Jets and just

638
00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:36.160
<v Speaker 2>beat everybody downfield for a touchdown. But he's a good

639
00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:40.160
<v Speaker 2>running back, a solid guy to have. But it sounds

640
00:29:40.200 --> 00:29:42.519
<v Speaker 2>like by the end of November, this coaching staff won't

641
00:29:42.519 --> 00:29:44.720
<v Speaker 2>be shocked if the guy that they want to give

642
00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:46.759
<v Speaker 2>the ball to more often than anybody else when it

643
00:29:46.799 --> 00:29:49.440
<v Speaker 2>comes to handing it off it is this freshman Isaac Brown,

644
00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:52.960
<v Speaker 2>because he's that good. I also was told that Jeff's

645
00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:55.680
<v Speaker 2>comments about being underwhelmed about the offense and how the

646
00:29:55.720 --> 00:29:58.640
<v Speaker 2>defense was kicking their butt all legit, meaning like the

647
00:29:58.680 --> 00:30:02.240
<v Speaker 2>defense has looked really good and Jeff was being, you know,

648
00:30:02.319 --> 00:30:05.359
<v Speaker 2>truthful when he talks about the offense needing to be better,

649
00:30:05.920 --> 00:30:11.359
<v Speaker 2>but he likes his offense even without Colin Lacy. I

650
00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:15.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, you never know, right because you just never know.

651
00:30:15.799 --> 00:30:18.160
<v Speaker 2>But I'm now to the point where I'm not as

652
00:30:18.200 --> 00:30:19.920
<v Speaker 2>and I wasn't really that worried anyway. I mean I

653
00:30:20.000 --> 00:30:21.839
<v Speaker 2>kind of talked about it on Monday, like him telling

654
00:30:21.839 --> 00:30:23.599
<v Speaker 2>you back to back weeks that the defense is getting

655
00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:25.920
<v Speaker 2>the best of the offense not something you want to hear.

656
00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:28.240
<v Speaker 2>But I don't put a lot into that, but it

657
00:30:28.319 --> 00:30:31.000
<v Speaker 2>was reiterated to me on Monday afternoon when I talked

658
00:30:31.000 --> 00:30:33.880
<v Speaker 2>to somebody who again would know that he has really

659
00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:37.640
<v Speaker 2>high expectations for this offense. So you know, they could

660
00:30:37.640 --> 00:30:40.079
<v Speaker 2>probably be playing better than you would expect in him

661
00:30:40.119 --> 00:30:42.000
<v Speaker 2>still be very you know, not upset, but just you know,

662
00:30:42.039 --> 00:30:45.160
<v Speaker 2>wanting more. And he's not somebody that's going to make

663
00:30:45.200 --> 00:30:49.079
<v Speaker 2>any kind of any kind of comment or gesture or

664
00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:52.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, not even with body language or facial expression.

665
00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:55.079
<v Speaker 2>Jeff's not going to tease anything in regards to like

666
00:30:55.480 --> 00:30:57.839
<v Speaker 2>something special he's got up his sleeve or a player

667
00:30:58.039 --> 00:30:59.640
<v Speaker 2>that you don't know about that's going to be great.

668
00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:03.319
<v Speaker 2>But I do feel comfortable in saying that he feels

669
00:31:03.359 --> 00:31:05.319
<v Speaker 2>like he's got personnel on both sides of the ball

670
00:31:05.359 --> 00:31:07.599
<v Speaker 2>for this team to be pretty damn good. Now again,

671
00:31:07.640 --> 00:31:09.559
<v Speaker 2>you never know, that's not me saying, hey, everybody, go

672
00:31:09.559 --> 00:31:12.079
<v Speaker 2>ahead and book your rooms for Charlotte. We're going back

673
00:31:12.079 --> 00:31:14.720
<v Speaker 2>to the ACC title game. But you know they ty

674
00:31:14.880 --> 00:31:17.839
<v Speaker 2>Tyler shuck again. You got to see it when it's

675
00:31:17.880 --> 00:31:19.880
<v Speaker 2>when the lights are on. He's been turnover prone when

676
00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:22.160
<v Speaker 2>healthy at his other schools, but he's also been pretty good.

677
00:31:22.759 --> 00:31:26.039
<v Speaker 2>But I get the sense that he he just has

678
00:31:26.039 --> 00:31:29.240
<v Speaker 2>an arm and he has you know, he's got the

679
00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:33.079
<v Speaker 2>ability to read a defense that Jeff Brohm, you know,

680
00:31:33.640 --> 00:31:36.200
<v Speaker 2>dare I say, salivates a little bit knowing that he

681
00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:38.519
<v Speaker 2>can be vertical with this guy, Like they can take

682
00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:40.720
<v Speaker 2>some shots down field. This guy's got the arm to

683
00:31:40.759 --> 00:31:43.319
<v Speaker 2>do it. And they're gonna have some balance, not only

684
00:31:43.359 --> 00:31:46.079
<v Speaker 2>with hopefully a good, you know, productive running running game

685
00:31:46.119 --> 00:31:47.880
<v Speaker 2>that won't be as good as what they had last

686
00:31:47.960 --> 00:31:50.799
<v Speaker 2>year because that's a tough task to tackle. I mean,

687
00:31:50.839 --> 00:31:52.839
<v Speaker 2>those two running backs last year were really really good.

688
00:31:53.359 --> 00:31:55.559
<v Speaker 2>But they're gonna have better tight ends and that's going

689
00:31:55.640 --> 00:31:57.440
<v Speaker 2>to be a bigger fixture within the offense to where

690
00:31:57.440 --> 00:31:59.279
<v Speaker 2>they can you know, Jeff can pick and choose when

691
00:31:59.279 --> 00:32:00.799
<v Speaker 2>he wants to take a shit or pull a trick

692
00:32:00.839 --> 00:32:03.400
<v Speaker 2>out of the bag and you know, put one on

693
00:32:03.440 --> 00:32:05.319
<v Speaker 2>the board. And you got to keep in mind, like

694
00:32:05.400 --> 00:32:07.200
<v Speaker 2>last year, it was a fun ride for everybody, right,

695
00:32:07.200 --> 00:32:10.880
<v Speaker 2>a ten win season first year. I mean, you get

696
00:32:10.880 --> 00:32:13.799
<v Speaker 2>a top ten win against Notre Dame when you know

697
00:32:13.839 --> 00:32:15.839
<v Speaker 2>it's the fifth game for Jeff as your head coach,

698
00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:19.839
<v Speaker 2>like everything aligns so perfectly to start the year that

699
00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:21.680
<v Speaker 2>you really weren't, at least for me, Like I knew

700
00:32:21.720 --> 00:32:23.559
<v Speaker 2>it was different than what I would would have expected.

701
00:32:23.599 --> 00:32:25.039
<v Speaker 2>But like you got to keep in mind, think about

702
00:32:25.119 --> 00:32:27.240
<v Speaker 2>Jeff last year. He's winning, but it's not how he

703
00:32:27.279 --> 00:32:29.880
<v Speaker 2>typically wins, right, He's winning because his defense has really

704
00:32:29.920 --> 00:32:33.279
<v Speaker 2>been the anchor for the team. And on offense, you know,

705
00:32:33.359 --> 00:32:35.960
<v Speaker 2>they were good enough, they were efficient enough, but they weren't.

706
00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:37.799
<v Speaker 2>You know, Plumber wouldn't good on third down. We all

707
00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:40.440
<v Speaker 2>know that. And when it comes down to it, if

708
00:32:40.480 --> 00:32:45.200
<v Speaker 2>you had to envision Louisville, you know, needing a late

709
00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:47.799
<v Speaker 2>drive to put one in the end zone to either

710
00:32:47.839 --> 00:32:50.000
<v Speaker 2>give themselves a chance to win or put them over

711
00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:52.839
<v Speaker 2>the edge and actually win. When you were trying to

712
00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:55.319
<v Speaker 2>visualize that as you're sweating it out as a fan

713
00:32:55.440 --> 00:32:59.920
<v Speaker 2>watching this team last year, you probably were visualizing Gerard's

714
00:33:00.160 --> 00:33:04.400
<v Speaker 2>Ordered breaking free, or Isaac Garrindo breaking free and taking

715
00:33:04.400 --> 00:33:07.000
<v Speaker 2>one of the house, or one of those guys making

716
00:33:07.039 --> 00:33:09.279
<v Speaker 2>some big plays to where Jack Plumber didn't really have

717
00:33:09.319 --> 00:33:11.119
<v Speaker 2>to do a whole lot. He was already you know,

718
00:33:11.519 --> 00:33:13.960
<v Speaker 2>first and goal from the seven because of an explosive

719
00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:16.880
<v Speaker 2>play from one of those guys. I think now they

720
00:33:16.920 --> 00:33:19.880
<v Speaker 2>feel comfortable. Hey, we got we got some, we got some.

721
00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:23.599
<v Speaker 2>We got some pieces here offensively to where we're gonna

722
00:33:23.599 --> 00:33:25.519
<v Speaker 2>be able to drive here late and tie it up.

723
00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:27.519
<v Speaker 2>Give us, give a chance, give us a chance to win,

724
00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:31.319
<v Speaker 2>or maybe you know, drive down field and win the game.

725
00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:34.799
<v Speaker 2>So I don't want to, you know, I don't want

726
00:33:34.839 --> 00:33:36.920
<v Speaker 2>to put that out there as if like, hey, Louisville's

727
00:33:36.920 --> 00:33:39.079
<v Speaker 2>gonna be elite this year, They're gonna win every game.

728
00:33:39.119 --> 00:33:42.359
<v Speaker 2>Everybody calmed down. But whenever, and that's one thing I do.

729
00:33:42.480 --> 00:33:43.960
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm not. I'm an introvert, So I'm not

730
00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:47.039
<v Speaker 2>somebody that that's texting around asking for any information. And honestly,

731
00:33:47.039 --> 00:33:48.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't. I don't know it's up people

732
00:33:48.720 --> 00:33:51.039
<v Speaker 2>that would give me legit information. That's just I'm not.

733
00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:53.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm not as well sourced as some others. But when

734
00:33:53.640 --> 00:33:56.720
<v Speaker 2>you do start to, you know, to to get closer

735
00:33:56.720 --> 00:33:58.599
<v Speaker 2>to the season, you get to yap and there are

736
00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:01.279
<v Speaker 2>some people that I still value my relationship with. It'll

737
00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:03.759
<v Speaker 2>reach out and say, hey, you should know this, So

738
00:34:04.319 --> 00:34:06.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, I to answer your question, You're right, I

739
00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:08.800
<v Speaker 2>haven't talked about Isaac Brown, and I probably should have

740
00:34:08.840 --> 00:34:11.920
<v Speaker 2>because they love him over there on Floyd Street, and

741
00:34:11.920 --> 00:34:13.920
<v Speaker 2>he's gonna be on the field this year. Maybe he

742
00:34:13.960 --> 00:34:16.599
<v Speaker 2>has some growing pains along the way, maybe it's a tough,

743
00:34:16.760 --> 00:34:18.719
<v Speaker 2>tough transition. But I can tell you this, I think

744
00:34:18.719 --> 00:34:21.239
<v Speaker 2>if he ends up being one of the more known

745
00:34:21.320 --> 00:34:23.440
<v Speaker 2>guys within this offense when it's all said and done

746
00:34:23.480 --> 00:34:25.559
<v Speaker 2>this season, I don't think this staf is gonna be

747
00:34:25.559 --> 00:34:29.320
<v Speaker 2>surprised at all. All right, let's take a quick break.

748
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<v Speaker 2>We'll come back on the other side. Wrap up the

749
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<v Speaker 2>four o'clock hour. I did not revisit the Amari Huggy

750
00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:37.519
<v Speaker 2>Amurray Huggy Amari Huggins Bruce situation. So we'll do that

751
00:34:37.559 --> 00:34:39.400
<v Speaker 2>here on the other side. And we got a lot

752
00:34:39.400 --> 00:34:40.920
<v Speaker 2>more to get into before we wrap it up. We're

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<v Speaker 2>that started in the five o'clock hour, but not a

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go to David. David, welcome in. How are you.

782
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<v Speaker 4>I'm doing fantastic, Nick, Thanks for taking my call. Just

783
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<v Speaker 4>wanted to click update. I figured i'd go to the

784
00:35:55.039 --> 00:35:58.719
<v Speaker 4>guru tell me about Fierce Clarks and you know, he's

785
00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:01.239
<v Speaker 4>sort of the forgotten man, and he's become the arch

786
00:36:01.360 --> 00:36:05.199
<v Speaker 4>manning of Texas at Louisville, and you know, he just

787
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<v Speaker 4>I don't want. I hope that.

788
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<v Speaker 5>This is probably the wrong way to look at it,

789
00:36:10.800 --> 00:36:14.199
<v Speaker 5>but you know, coach cal would always over recruit his

790
00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:18.079
<v Speaker 5>He would have a team of five star players and

791
00:36:18.119 --> 00:36:20.360
<v Speaker 5>then if they didn't perform, he would just bring another

792
00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:22.880
<v Speaker 5>team of five stars in. And you know, I just

793
00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:25.320
<v Speaker 5>would love to see the kid see the field, unless

794
00:36:25.320 --> 00:36:28.599
<v Speaker 5>he just doesn't ready. But I guess Coach Brown doesn't

795
00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:30.760
<v Speaker 5>think so. And just wanted to see what your thoughts were.

796
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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, David. I appreciate you. I will say this,

797
00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:36.639
<v Speaker 2>I think the expectation and not saying that you have

798
00:36:36.760 --> 00:36:38.760
<v Speaker 2>expectations for m me playing right now, but I think

799
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<v Speaker 2>given the fact that he was such a highly regarded

800
00:36:41.039 --> 00:36:44.079
<v Speaker 2>recruit in a previous world, you know, before you could

801
00:36:44.079 --> 00:36:45.840
<v Speaker 2>go to the portal and go get a veteran, and

802
00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:47.840
<v Speaker 2>before they let some of these guys play for six

803
00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:50.320
<v Speaker 2>and some even seven years. It would have been a

804
00:36:50.360 --> 00:36:53.360
<v Speaker 2>natural progression here to hand the reins off to peers

805
00:36:53.400 --> 00:36:55.840
<v Speaker 2>as a red shirt freshman. But you don't have to

806
00:36:55.840 --> 00:36:57.639
<v Speaker 2>do that anymore. You can go get a guy that's

807
00:36:57.639 --> 00:37:00.679
<v Speaker 2>played a lot. So I will give Pierce in his

808
00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:02.880
<v Speaker 2>family his camp if you will, a lot of props

809
00:37:02.880 --> 00:37:06.119
<v Speaker 2>for understanding and having some patience and maturity to understand that, hey,

810
00:37:06.480 --> 00:37:09.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, the the clock for a quarterback at the

811
00:37:09.519 --> 00:37:12.360
<v Speaker 2>high level is not what it once was, meaning you

812
00:37:12.400 --> 00:37:14.760
<v Speaker 2>know you're not going to be needed to hit the

813
00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:17.639
<v Speaker 2>field right away. You're gonna need to be patient. And

814
00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:19.519
<v Speaker 2>some kids don't want to be patient. And I don't

815
00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:22.800
<v Speaker 2>blame him. They transfer, like Piers transferring would not have

816
00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:24.840
<v Speaker 2>meant that anybody did anything wrong. It would have just

817
00:37:24.880 --> 00:37:27.639
<v Speaker 2>been a reminder that this is different now because again, coaches,

818
00:37:27.679 --> 00:37:31.480
<v Speaker 2>who coaches. Again, it's basketball, football, any sport. Honestly, if

819
00:37:31.519 --> 00:37:32.960
<v Speaker 2>you're a head coach and you know you need to

820
00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:34.719
<v Speaker 2>win in order to keep your job, right, that's part

821
00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:36.880
<v Speaker 2>of it. That's what you got to do. If you

822
00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:39.320
<v Speaker 2>don't have to be young, you're not gonna want to

823
00:37:39.360 --> 00:37:40.719
<v Speaker 2>be young, You're gonna go to the portal and want

824
00:37:40.719 --> 00:37:42.360
<v Speaker 2>to go get guys who you feel like can help

825
00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:44.559
<v Speaker 2>you right away. So coaches are going to continue to

826
00:37:44.559 --> 00:37:46.840
<v Speaker 2>do that. So I've heard nothing but good things about Pierce,

827
00:37:46.920 --> 00:37:48.679
<v Speaker 2>not to say that he's been lighting it on fire,

828
00:37:49.079 --> 00:37:51.880
<v Speaker 2>but post spring, if they had to go to a

829
00:37:51.880 --> 00:37:54.199
<v Speaker 2>different quarterback, if Shuck got hurt or whatever it may be,

830
00:37:54.280 --> 00:37:57.760
<v Speaker 2>maybe he's you know, something happens, they would they would

831
00:37:57.800 --> 00:38:01.519
<v Speaker 2>go to Pierce Clarkson. I still think that they probably would.

832
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:04.679
<v Speaker 2>But I do know Harrison Bailey, a transfer who is

833
00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:08.000
<v Speaker 2>probably four years older than Pierce at minimum. He started.

834
00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:11.039
<v Speaker 2>He's a victim recruit and he played at Tennessee coming

835
00:38:11.079 --> 00:38:12.880
<v Speaker 2>out of high school. Five star kid by the way,

836
00:38:12.920 --> 00:38:16.280
<v Speaker 2>picked Tennessee over like Alabama and some other schools. Didn't

837
00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:19.360
<v Speaker 2>work out there for him. He transferred to UNLV, started

838
00:38:19.360 --> 00:38:22.239
<v Speaker 2>some games there, put up some decent numbers. He walked

839
00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:26.800
<v Speaker 2>on at Louisville last year, and you know, I believe

840
00:38:26.840 --> 00:38:29.360
<v Speaker 2>I've heard that he wants to be a coach and

841
00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:31.440
<v Speaker 2>he wants to learn from Jeff Brown. But he also again,

842
00:38:31.559 --> 00:38:33.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't think that five star billing that

843
00:38:33.440 --> 00:38:35.159
<v Speaker 2>he had coming out of high school. I mean, it

844
00:38:35.199 --> 00:38:37.760
<v Speaker 2>clearly wasn't justified at this point, but you know, he

845
00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:39.840
<v Speaker 2>clearly has some skill and some talent to where they

846
00:38:39.880 --> 00:38:42.440
<v Speaker 2>do like him a lot. So I think those guys

847
00:38:42.440 --> 00:38:45.039
<v Speaker 2>are probably neck and neck, but I do think because

848
00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:47.719
<v Speaker 2>they know Pierce has a chance to be the future here.

849
00:38:47.800 --> 00:38:50.159
<v Speaker 2>If these guys are neck in practice, they're gonna go

850
00:38:50.199 --> 00:38:52.480
<v Speaker 2>with Piers and they should. I mean I would again,

851
00:38:52.559 --> 00:38:54.079
<v Speaker 2>let's see what you got with this young man. So

852
00:38:55.199 --> 00:38:58.000
<v Speaker 2>I think best case scenario for Pierce Clarkson this year,

853
00:38:58.119 --> 00:39:00.960
<v Speaker 2>and really best case scenario for Louisville and Jeff Brohm

854
00:39:01.840 --> 00:39:06.039
<v Speaker 2>is that you're blowing out and I mean blowing out

855
00:39:06.079 --> 00:39:10.159
<v Speaker 2>Austin p and you're blowing out in Jacksonville State, and

856
00:39:10.239 --> 00:39:12.559
<v Speaker 2>you know you've got a quarterback that's injury prone. Right,

857
00:39:12.599 --> 00:39:15.159
<v Speaker 2>that's the story on Tyler Shuck. He's a guy who

858
00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:18.400
<v Speaker 2>has never finished a season healthy. So if you've got

859
00:39:18.400 --> 00:39:21.800
<v Speaker 2>the game put away and there's a maybe a half

860
00:39:21.920 --> 00:39:24.960
<v Speaker 2>left of football, you're gonna you should put him on

861
00:39:24.960 --> 00:39:27.079
<v Speaker 2>the sideline, keep him healthy. Hell, maybe send him to

862
00:39:27.079 --> 00:39:29.039
<v Speaker 2>the locker room. Just do whatever you can to keep

863
00:39:29.079 --> 00:39:32.039
<v Speaker 2>this guy healthy. So at that point you should you

864
00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:34.679
<v Speaker 2>should get pierced some real reps. Now, again, it's gonna

865
00:39:34.719 --> 00:39:36.519
<v Speaker 2>be in mop up duty when the game's you know,

866
00:39:36.639 --> 00:39:40.719
<v Speaker 2>completely finished, and it's against inferior opponents than which he's

867
00:39:40.760 --> 00:39:43.320
<v Speaker 2>gonna typically see if you're starting quarterback for a full year.

868
00:39:43.599 --> 00:39:45.400
<v Speaker 2>But that's where you get him a chance to really

869
00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:47.400
<v Speaker 2>cut his teeth in a real game, kind of show

870
00:39:47.480 --> 00:39:49.679
<v Speaker 2>some things, show what he can do. And let's be honest,

871
00:39:49.880 --> 00:39:52.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, Louisville also should be able to I mean,

872
00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:54.039
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to disrespect some of these opponents, but

873
00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:56.719
<v Speaker 2>like Virginia may really suck this year, who's to say

874
00:39:56.719 --> 00:40:00.360
<v Speaker 2>that when they're playing Virginia they may have a three,

875
00:40:00.559 --> 00:40:03.639
<v Speaker 2>four touchdown lead in the fourth quarter, get pierce some reps.

876
00:40:03.679 --> 00:40:06.079
<v Speaker 2>So it's been a while since Louisville's had a season

877
00:40:06.280 --> 00:40:08.800
<v Speaker 2>where they had a you know, games where they were

878
00:40:08.800 --> 00:40:10.440
<v Speaker 2>blowing them out and they had a chance to go

879
00:40:10.480 --> 00:40:13.559
<v Speaker 2>to a backup like last year they they at times

880
00:40:13.639 --> 00:40:16.000
<v Speaker 2>would would you know against Boston College, that's a game

881
00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:18.480
<v Speaker 2>that stands out. Obviously, when they played Murray State, they

882
00:40:18.480 --> 00:40:22.760
<v Speaker 2>played ten quarterbacks. So David, I think, really this year,

883
00:40:23.639 --> 00:40:26.719
<v Speaker 2>if Louisville is taking care of business against the inferior opponents.

884
00:40:27.000 --> 00:40:28.880
<v Speaker 2>Pierce is gonna get a chance to get in there

885
00:40:28.920 --> 00:40:30.840
<v Speaker 2>and show what he can do. And I feel like

886
00:40:30.960 --> 00:40:34.320
<v Speaker 2>in those reps that'll really give this staff a chance

887
00:40:34.360 --> 00:40:37.239
<v Speaker 2>to decide, Okay, here we go. Do we want to

888
00:40:37.280 --> 00:40:39.679
<v Speaker 2>go to the portal once again? Or are we ready

889
00:40:39.679 --> 00:40:41.199
<v Speaker 2>to hand the reins off to this guy now that

890
00:40:41.239 --> 00:40:44.280
<v Speaker 2>he's sit back for two years, learn the offense really

891
00:40:44.320 --> 00:40:47.039
<v Speaker 2>kind of cut his teeth. And really only time will

892
00:40:47.039 --> 00:40:49.119
<v Speaker 2>tell as far as as far as that's if that

893
00:40:49.199 --> 00:40:51.199
<v Speaker 2>happens or not. But man, the quarterback situation in the

894
00:40:51.199 --> 00:40:54.039
<v Speaker 2>portal era is so interesting because you know, you may

895
00:40:54.039 --> 00:40:56.360
<v Speaker 2>feel really good about Pierce Clarkson, really good, but if

896
00:40:56.360 --> 00:40:58.559
<v Speaker 2>you are if you are a program that knows you

897
00:40:58.639 --> 00:41:01.280
<v Speaker 2>have nil and if Jeff has another good season, there

898
00:41:01.360 --> 00:41:03.239
<v Speaker 2>gonna be quarterbacks in the portal that want to come

899
00:41:03.280 --> 00:41:05.159
<v Speaker 2>play for him because who wouldn't want to play quarterback

900
00:41:05.199 --> 00:41:09.599
<v Speaker 2>for Jeff brom right. So you know it's tricky because

901
00:41:09.679 --> 00:41:12.239
<v Speaker 2>if you feel like Pierce can be your guy, but

902
00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:14.480
<v Speaker 2>you're also going to welcome in this guy with a

903
00:41:14.480 --> 00:41:16.400
<v Speaker 2>bunch of nil money because you know what he can do,

904
00:41:16.440 --> 00:41:18.800
<v Speaker 2>and you're gonna let these guys compete for it. If

905
00:41:18.800 --> 00:41:20.679
<v Speaker 2>this is a guy who's proven himself to be a

906
00:41:20.719 --> 00:41:25.480
<v Speaker 2>really good college quarterback, Piers Clarkson would understandably probably leave,

907
00:41:25.599 --> 00:41:28.360
<v Speaker 2>and I wouldn't blame him. So, you know, I really

908
00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:29.719
<v Speaker 2>want to give him a lot of credit because I

909
00:41:29.760 --> 00:41:32.519
<v Speaker 2>think a lot of guys in his position, given the hype,

910
00:41:32.559 --> 00:41:35.000
<v Speaker 2>given the expectation, and all the offers that he had,

911
00:41:35.119 --> 00:41:38.079
<v Speaker 2>especially from the West Coast programs back where he's from,

912
00:41:38.639 --> 00:41:41.039
<v Speaker 2>he's been patient and he's understanding that it's not his

913
00:41:41.119 --> 00:41:43.840
<v Speaker 2>time yet because things have changed in college football. And

914
00:41:43.880 --> 00:41:46.199
<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of these five star quarterbacks coming

915
00:41:46.239 --> 00:41:48.079
<v Speaker 2>out of a four star high four star, five star,

916
00:41:48.119 --> 00:41:51.079
<v Speaker 2>depending on where you looked with him, they wouldn't stick

917
00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:53.360
<v Speaker 2>around and wait because they would know, Hey, there's a

918
00:41:53.360 --> 00:41:55.840
<v Speaker 2>lot of schools out there that don't love their quarterback situation.

919
00:41:56.079 --> 00:41:58.159
<v Speaker 2>And I haven't proven what I can do yet, but

920
00:41:58.199 --> 00:42:00.960
<v Speaker 2>you know what, I can still get that phone ringing

921
00:42:01.000 --> 00:42:02.840
<v Speaker 2>off the hook because of where I was coming out

922
00:42:02.880 --> 00:42:04.800
<v Speaker 2>of high school. I'ven't put enough on film to show

923
00:42:04.840 --> 00:42:07.400
<v Speaker 2>anybody that I'm not able to be a really good

924
00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:10.639
<v Speaker 2>quarterback at the college level. So I'm hopeful that we

925
00:42:10.679 --> 00:42:12.400
<v Speaker 2>see a lot of Pierce Clarkson in the second half

926
00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:15.199
<v Speaker 2>against Austin p and against Jacksonville State. But we'll see,

927
00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:16.880
<v Speaker 2>all right, we got another hour to go, in a

928
00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:19.360
<v Speaker 2>lot to get to, so stick with us. Five o'clock

929
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<v Speaker 2>hour coming up right here. It's coffee and company. Feel

930
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<v Speaker 2>about Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety