Speaker 1: Bill cunning in the Great America. Welcome this Thursday afternoon
Speaker 1: at the tri State. Of course, the Bengals tee it
Speaker 1: up on Sunday. Normally the Browns game is big. I
Speaker 1: think it's sold out, so if they win that game,
Speaker 1: they have a two and a half percent chance of
Speaker 1: getting in the playoffs. No more by the close of
Speaker 1: business on Sunday, but until then, Julie Gunlock with the
Speaker 1: Independent Women's Form IWF dot org. I think they have
Speaker 1: a new memor. Riley Gaines has joined, which is fabulous
Speaker 1: and I've contacted her. But one of the great leaders
Speaker 1: of the Independent Women's Forum is Julie Gunlock. And Julie
Speaker 1: welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show this Thursday afternoon.
Speaker 1: But most importantly, I would have to say that I
Speaker 1: wake up every day with a little bit of a
Speaker 1: smile on my face because of what happened November. The
Speaker 1: fifth electoral colleges have now met. Life is good. Are
Speaker 1: we starting to see a turn when it comes to DEI,
Speaker 1: when it becomes the president appointing a firing people based
Speaker 1: upon race or gender. Are we making a slight turn
Speaker 1: toward the light or are we still in darkness?
Speaker 2: I think we are, I really do. I think people
Speaker 2: are tired of the race fading. I think people are
Speaker 2: tired of the race hostility. I think people are feeling
Speaker 2: very patriotic these last couple of weeks and very positive
Speaker 2: and very excited for this new administration. I definitely sent
Speaker 2: a change, a shift, a desire to move on and
Speaker 2: to get on with it. So I you know, I'm
Speaker 2: very hopeful. I think twenty twenty five is going to
Speaker 2: be a great year. I think the era of the
Speaker 2: second Trump administration is going to be very exciting, and.
Speaker 1: I feel it.
Speaker 3: Look.
Speaker 2: I live in Washington, DC. I was here for the
Speaker 2: first Trump administration where liberals were losing their minds and
Speaker 2: you know, we're just so despondent and we're panicking and
Speaker 2: we're really trying. I mean from the even before he
Speaker 2: was sworn in, they had created the sildossier. They were,
Speaker 2: you know, pursuing this Russia collusion hopes. They were already
Speaker 2: know it was famously on the view they said we
Speaker 2: are going to impeach him even before he was sworn in.
Speaker 2: Now you know, you actually have Democrats Recently, just this
Speaker 2: past weekend, we had the Army Navy Game and you know,
Speaker 2: there's this picture of Wes Moore, Maryland governor as liberal
Speaker 2: as they come. Uh, Donald Trump's hand smiling, grinning ear
Speaker 2: to ear. So I really do think things have changed.
Speaker 2: I think people are desperate to get into the Trump administration.
Speaker 2: He's obviously considering even appointing some Democrats obviously like RFK,
Speaker 2: but there are others and lower level positions that Trump
Speaker 2: is considering, and these Democrats are eager to get these positions.
Speaker 2: So things have definitely changed.
Speaker 1: We always like to complain and talk radio. Sometimes it's
Speaker 1: good to pass around the flowers. One thing that happened
Speaker 1: a few days ago Senator Josh Holly and Senator John
Speaker 1: Kennedy my favorite two senators that we're going after. President
Speaker 1: Baker of the NAA, I'm sorry the ncublea nc DOUBLEA
Speaker 1: claims that boys can dress and shower and have facilities
Speaker 1: to the girls. These are adults, These are eighteen, nineteen,
Speaker 1: twenty two year olds, and that he kept defending the
Speaker 1: fact that, after all, we have to comply with Title
Speaker 1: nine to make sure that depending upon your section of
Speaker 1: equal access, and the point was made. There were five
Speaker 1: or six teams of volleyball female players from fifty to
Speaker 1: sixty women who refuse to play against a man who
Speaker 1: in tournament action. And although volleyball is not the biggest
Speaker 1: sport in the world, but to those girls it is.
Speaker 1: They have the right under federal law to adequately participate
Speaker 1: in separate but equal facilities. And the President NC DOUBLEA
Speaker 1: said no, they don't. And to watch Holly and Kennedy
Speaker 1: go after this former Republican who's a liberal governor of
Speaker 1: Massachusetts was good, but he refused to say that girls
Speaker 1: are for girls and women or for women. Explain that
Speaker 1: to the American people.
Speaker 2: Well, there's no explaining it. He's absolutely insane. It's psychopathic
Speaker 2: behavior to suggest that women to be put in these
Speaker 2: kinds of situations. Let's not forget Peyton McNabb. She is
Speaker 2: a fellow with the Independent Women's Forum. In college, she
Speaker 2: was hit in the face. She's a volleyball player, she's
Speaker 2: a champion volleyball player. She was playing opposite a team
Speaker 2: that had a biological male on their team, pretending to.
Speaker 4: Be a woman.
Speaker 2: He spiked that ball, he kicked her in the face.
Speaker 2: She went down and now has permanent brain damage because
Speaker 2: that She talks about it at the Independent Women's forum.
Speaker 2: There is an incredible video about her called kill Shot,
Speaker 2: part of iws' Storytelling pet project. Again, it's called kill Shots.
Speaker 2: How Peyton McNabb turned tragedy into triumph And she certainly has.
Speaker 2: And one of the ways that she's done this this
Speaker 2: horrifying experience of playing on her women's volleyball team in college,
Speaker 2: being spiked in the face by a male on the
Speaker 2: opposite team, again having permanent disabilities because of it. She
Speaker 2: is now speaking out. She's talking about the great risks
Speaker 2: that women's face in volleyball, but in other sports too.
Speaker 2: We've seen this in women's lacrosse, just a couple like
Speaker 2: last year, there was a women's lacrosse team playing against
Speaker 2: another team. There was a biological male. He hit that ball.
Speaker 2: It hit a girl in the face.
Speaker 3: She lost teeth.
Speaker 2: The whaling, the whaling that came from that young girl
Speaker 2: as she was struck in the face by that puck.
Speaker 2: It was horrifying. And again, women in all sorts of
Speaker 2: sports are facing the stickturb And at that hearing that
Speaker 2: you mentioned said, Ah, it's not a big deal, ten girl,
Speaker 2: It's not a big deal. It is such a disgusting
Speaker 2: and despicable thing. To ignore the real risks. Martina Navratilova
Speaker 2: and other professional sports figures have gotten up and said
Speaker 2: this is a legitimate Hey, and these are liberal women.
Speaker 2: I mean, you think about about some of the other
Speaker 2: people in this.
Speaker 5: We have a.
Speaker 2: Coalition, for goodness sake, we are in a coalition with
Speaker 2: Wolf that is Women's Liberation Front. Okay, they are hardly conservative.
Speaker 2: They are as about as radical a feminists as they come,
Speaker 2: who are in coalitions with the end of the pro
Speaker 2: you know, the the pro male, frankly independent Women's Forum.
Speaker 2: And we all agree that this is a danger to women. Again,
Speaker 2: it is despicable. It is misogyny. It is ignoring the
Speaker 2: true risks that women are taking by performing in on
Speaker 2: sports teams and having to face biological math. Not to
Speaker 2: mention just how outrageous it is that biological males are
Speaker 2: taking our trophies, our metals are placed on podiums, our scholarships. Again,
Speaker 2: it is the women's rights issue.
Speaker 1: Of the day.
Speaker 2: Iws IS is on the right side of this, and
Speaker 2: so these congressmen and senators to get up there and
Speaker 2: pretend this isn't a big deal.
Speaker 5: It's shameful.
Speaker 1: You know, I live in a functional part of our
Speaker 1: great country, Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana. You live in a dysfunctional one.
Speaker 1: Virginia has its moments in Washington, d C. But I
Speaker 1: can't imagine the sixty percent of women and girls who
Speaker 1: live in California, who live in Illinois, Massachusetts, New York State,
Speaker 1: who live in the state of denial. Shall we say
Speaker 1: that must allow high school boys to enter their private
Speaker 1: spaces and must allow men to play women's sports. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, what world do we live in? When I
Speaker 1: was in high school, we had a classmate of mine
Speaker 1: that used to sneak into the girl's bathroom to watch
Speaker 1: them undress, and he was finally suspended and sadly went
Speaker 1: to Vietnam and didn't make it. But nonetheless, I can't
Speaker 1: imagine that the more than half of the women and
Speaker 1: girls who live in blue cities and blue states. I
Speaker 1: don't have that experience because I understand it. You're in California, Oregon, Washington, Massachusetts, Illinois,
Speaker 1: a woman or a girl has no rights to private spaces.
Speaker 1: And may God help you if you object.
Speaker 2: Well listen. And also where are the rape survivor and
Speaker 2: violence against against women activists right that were used to
Speaker 2: be pretty prevalent, used to be pretty prominent. Now they're
Speaker 2: utterly serious as silence on this, they've disappeared. Why are
Speaker 2: we supposed to pretend that these women who have who
Speaker 2: have sexual assault and rape, have experienced that aren't supposed
Speaker 2: to be nervous and uncomfortable with a biological male, intact male,
Speaker 2: some are intact, some are not intact, But these are
Speaker 2: biological males. Why are we supposed to present those women
Speaker 2: are not going to feel uncomfortable, not and you don't
Speaker 2: even have to be a victim of sexual assault and
Speaker 2: rape to feel uncomfortable. I don't want to undress in
Speaker 2: front of a biological male. I don't want I don't
Speaker 2: have daughters, but if I did have a daughter, I wouldn't.
Speaker 2: I don't want my son to have to undress in
Speaker 2: front of a female who is pretending to be a male.
Speaker 2: The world has gone absolutely bananas. It has gone bananas.
Speaker 2: And again, it really sickens me that these groups that
Speaker 2: ostensibly were there to stick up for the victims of
Speaker 2: sexual assault and rape have suddenly gone silent. You know,
Speaker 2: these are groups that spent you know, weeks harassing Kavanaugh
Speaker 2: for an allegation that had absolutely no evidence whatsoever and
Speaker 2: was absolutely absurd. And then when these real things are happening,
Speaker 2: like men showing up, biological men showing up and intimidating
Speaker 2: and scaring biological females in their private spaces, they are
Speaker 2: suddenly on vacation again. It's despicable, it's disgusting. Women really
Speaker 2: are have been left by other women's advocates, but thank
Speaker 2: god there are groups like Independent Women's Form and we're
Speaker 2: not alone. There's a lot of other really great women's organizations,
Speaker 2: mostly on the right, and you, mostly conservative, that are
Speaker 2: are fighting back on this issue.
Speaker 1: You have boys. I'm looking at an op ed you
Speaker 1: wrote to Mom's Guide to Parenting trans questioning kids. I'm
Speaker 1: watching some of this stuff on YouTube about congressional hearings
Speaker 1: about puberty blockers and our hormonal therapies and gender transitioning
Speaker 1: that now Great Britain and Scandinavian countries are about twenty
Speaker 1: years ahead or behind us, and they're saying, look, we're
Speaker 1: not doing this anymore because there's no evidence whatsoever. And
Speaker 1: this is the Great Britain Health Service in Scandinavian country,
Speaker 1: we've gone through this. There's no evidence of improving mental
Speaker 1: health whatsoever. And to say to a fourteen year old girl,
Speaker 1: we're gonna let you have a double mass sectomy and
Speaker 1: a hysterectomy order a boy, We're gonna cut off your
Speaker 1: testicles and get rid of your penis at the age
Speaker 1: of fifteen or sixteen because you think you're living in
Speaker 1: some other sex. Other countries have done this and said
Speaker 1: this is ridiculous. So looking at your op ed at
Speaker 1: IWF dot org, a Mom's guide to parenting trans questioning
Speaker 1: kids they get from a TikTok from their social social
Speaker 1: media sites, all this information about you're in the wrong body.
Speaker 1: And I watch this testimony from this girl who said
Speaker 1: even though I'm a boy, I have a girl's brain.
Speaker 1: Or a girl says I'm fourteen, I'm a girl, but
Speaker 1: my I got a boy's brain and I want to
Speaker 1: be a boy. And so what do you do if
Speaker 1: you're if you're a mom and here comes you're a
Speaker 1: sixteen year old girl who says, you know, Mom, I
Speaker 1: got a boy's brain and I want to have my
Speaker 1: breast cut off. Can you help mothers in the tri
Speaker 1: State and mothers throughout the world understand what they have
Speaker 1: to do?
Speaker 2: Listen, moms are going to be presented with this idea.
Speaker 2: This is from the medical community, psychology community, and the
Speaker 2: entire teaching community. They're going to be told you have
Speaker 2: to affirm. They're going to be use terms like gender
Speaker 2: affirming care. These sound nice, right, Affirm them, reassure them,
Speaker 2: go ahead and do what they want. You've got to
Speaker 2: do that. And you know why, you know why you
Speaker 2: need to do. This is a lie they're going to
Speaker 2: tell you. They're going to tell you because your kids
Speaker 2: to commit suicide, so you get to decide. You get
Speaker 2: to have a dead Susie or an alive Johnny. And
Speaker 2: that is what they're going to tell you. Let me
Speaker 2: tell you when your child, when you, as a parent,
Speaker 2: are presented with two choices suicide and my lot, and
Speaker 2: my child stays alive, although altered, you will always choose life.
Speaker 2: You love your child and you want them to stay alive.
Speaker 2: It is the I'm telling you right now, Billy, this
Speaker 2: this is demonic. What these medical professionals, what these teachers,
Speaker 2: with these school counselors, and the entire psychological industry and
Speaker 2: psychiatry industry is doing two children is dark and demonic.
Speaker 3: It is evil.
Speaker 2: It is so wrong. As parents Your job is to
Speaker 2: protect your child. It is absolutely critical that you ignore
Speaker 2: this phrase gender affirming care. Do not affirm your child
Speaker 2: if they want to change their identity. And let me
Speaker 2: tell you why. An enormous number, like eighty five percent
Speaker 2: of children who decide I'm transgendered, they they identify as transgender.
Speaker 2: They say to their parents, I want to change my you,
Speaker 2: I want to get on puberty blockers, I want to
Speaker 2: get on hormones. I eventually want to get surgery. Some
Speaker 2: insane number like eighty five percent of those kids grow
Speaker 2: out of it. Some of those kids do go on
Speaker 2: to become gay or lesbian, but many of them don't.
Speaker 2: This is a phase, and they go back and they're
Speaker 2: perfectly happy living in the in the in the body
Speaker 2: that they have. And so you have to ignore what
Speaker 2: these people are telling you to. I know it's hard.
Speaker 2: And let me tell you. We live in a time where, uh,
Speaker 2: there's always this appeal to authority. Well, what do you know,
Speaker 2: You're just a parent. I'm a doctor, I'm a psychiatrist,
Speaker 2: I'm a psychotgist. I'm a teacher. I know this, right,
Speaker 2: I'm the expert. Ignore this. This credential class stuff is dangerous.
Speaker 2: You know your parent, You know your child the best
Speaker 2: you are the parent. Take hold of that, have confidence
Speaker 2: in that, trust your own sort of belief in your child,
Speaker 2: and really deny these requests from your child to it
Speaker 2: is it will pass In fact in California.
Speaker 1: Is it true that in California Gavin Newsom, who wants
Speaker 1: to be the president, says that if a mom and
Speaker 1: a dad say no to gender transitioning, that the state
Speaker 1: will come in and take your child away from you.
Speaker 2: Yes, and people need to be aware of happy in
Speaker 2: more and more safe. In Virginia, we fought a law
Speaker 2: where this is a state rep. Named Elizabeth Guseman. She
Speaker 2: wanted to criminalize parents to deny their children's request to
Speaker 2: get on puberty blockers or have surgery. She wanted to
Speaker 2: throw those parents in jail. It is again, I'm telling you,
Speaker 2: this is demonic stuff. You have to resist this, You
Speaker 2: have to rest again again. In nine out of ten cases,
Speaker 2: these kids grow out of it and they go on
Speaker 2: to have very healthy lives. These puberty blockers are not reversible. Okay,
Speaker 2: hormones are not reversible. We deal with children who are
Speaker 2: what are called d transitioners. Now at Independent Women's Forum.
Speaker 2: We have done a tremendous amount of work with these
Speaker 2: young men and women, and my goodness, the de transitioning
Speaker 2: process is so painful because many of them have permanent
Speaker 2: For young girls, they have permanent hair from taking testosterone
Speaker 2: on their faces and on their necks and some on
Speaker 2: their chests. They have permanently lowered their voices, they have
Speaker 2: hips problems, and they lose density in their bones. It's extremely,
Speaker 2: extremely dangerous to give cross hormones to these very young children.
Speaker 2: And frankly, the medical community is lying to you. They
Speaker 2: do not know the full extent of the effects of
Speaker 2: these drugs on these kids. In many cases, these kids
Speaker 2: will grow up to be anorgathmic. They will never have
Speaker 2: sexual pleasure. It is tragic, and in many cases they've
Speaker 2: serialized themselves. So resist the pressure that you maybe get
Speaker 2: from getting from the outside to do this to your
Speaker 2: son or daughter.
Speaker 3: Resist it.
Speaker 1: It's the thing you can do for your Kidju only gunlock.
Speaker 1: Merry Christmas, Happy New Year. But say to a fourteen
Speaker 1: or fifteen year old, you can't drive a car, you
Speaker 1: can't smoke a cigarette, but guess what you could have
Speaker 1: your breast cut off. That's okay, and go to a
Speaker 1: hospital to get it done and everything's going to be great.
Speaker 1: It is sick. You say demonic, and I'll second that emotion.
Speaker 1: Julie Gunlock, good luck with you and your boys. IWF
Speaker 1: dot org is where to go, lots of resources. And
Speaker 1: once again, Merry Christmas, and Julie Gunlock, thank you for
Speaker 1: coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And Julie, you're a
Speaker 1: great American.
Speaker 2: Merry Christmas.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Erry Christmas. Let's continue with more. This is sick,
Speaker 1: and I don't know how we got here. It's because
Speaker 1: of money. These so called civil rights groups want to
Speaker 1: keep raising money and they need new causes, and don't
Speaker 1: let your children be the experimental reason for them to
Speaker 1: make a lot of money. Let's continue with more. Bill Cunningham,
Speaker 1: News Radio seven hundred WW Bill Cunningham, the Great American
Speaker 1: Optimism is high through the roof, out the sky because
Speaker 1: it appears normal Americans are now in charge of the
Speaker 1: executive branch of the federal government, and Elon Musk and
Speaker 1: my friend Vivek Ramaswamp are leading the Department of Government
Speaker 1: Efficiencies called Dodge Doge Dodge whatever it might be, which
Speaker 1: is an opportunity to shrink the federal government, and of
Speaker 1: course I believe in those things most normal Americans do.
Speaker 1: This is about the eighteenth time new administrations have said
Speaker 1: beginning I guess with the Grace Commission, and I saw
Speaker 1: a clip going back to YouTube, all the way back
Speaker 1: to the Johnson administration where the federal government come in
Speaker 1: they're going to cut spending, and Bill Clinton said it,
Speaker 1: the era big government is over. And of course Bush
Speaker 1: forty three grossly expanded the federal government. Same thing happened,
Speaker 1: of course under Obama. Then under the first Trump term,
Speaker 1: they added about seven or eight trillion dollars to the
Speaker 1: national debt. And now here we are after Biden, who's
Speaker 1: losing his way, can't find his way back home. He's lost.
Speaker 1: I added another eight trillion dollars after four years, and
Speaker 1: we can't continue on this path. Tim Chapman is with
Speaker 1: Advancing American Freedom. He's the president of AAF and Tim Chapman, welcome,
Speaker 1: I think for the first time to the Bill Cunningham Show.
Speaker 1: And Tim, why should we be optimistic this time when
Speaker 1: we've heard this repeatedly from Republicans and Democrats, We're going
Speaker 1: to cut federal spending why is this time different?
Speaker 6: Hey, well, thanks for having me, Bill, And what a
Speaker 6: great question. I mean, we've all been through the ringer
Speaker 6: with so many Republican administrations and different Republican leadership teams
Speaker 6: that just weren't able to get it done for one
Speaker 6: reason for another. But you know, I do think this
Speaker 6: time could potentially be different.
Speaker 3: I think one of the things that I'm.
Speaker 6: Hopeful about is with this DOGE Commission, you know, is
Speaker 6: I think there's an element of a popular opinion that
Speaker 6: is behind what's going on right now.
Speaker 3: I think in some ways, non.
Speaker 6: Traditional characters like Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswami and others
Speaker 6: bring some sort of popular appeal to the issue of
Speaker 6: spending cuts that just hasn't been there in decades past.
Speaker 6: You know, as you point out, absolutely there have been
Speaker 6: so many promises and there you know, many of us
Speaker 6: were part of big time revolutions. I think back to
Speaker 6: the Tea Party resolution in twenty ten, where we you know,
Speaker 6: swept through Congress and put limited government conservatives in in
Speaker 6: in seats all up and down.
Speaker 3: The do nation.
Speaker 6: But you know, we just weren't able to get it
Speaker 6: done because because at the top level there was not
Speaker 6: a commitment to it, and there was not an ability
Speaker 6: to persuade popular opinion across across the board.
Speaker 3: And my hope for the Doge is.
Speaker 6: That because he is engaged, and because others are engaged,
Speaker 6: and he's bringing actually some youthful energy online into this.
Speaker 6: You see you see people on you know, Reddit boards,
Speaker 6: and you see people on x Twitter and Twitter and whatnot,
Speaker 6: you know, suggesting areas for cuts and and and this
Speaker 6: is kind of like an online phenomenon that I think
Speaker 6: is very interesting that could provide a bit of a
Speaker 6: spark and an enough popular goodwill to get this done.
Speaker 6: And I also just think we're at at the end
Speaker 6: of a long term, you know, four decades fight on
Speaker 6: this issue of government spending, and I think the backlash
Speaker 6: if there's failure here will be so severe that that
Speaker 6: it's just not worth it.
Speaker 3: For Republicans not to deliver on this promise.
Speaker 1: Well between jd. Vance also from Cincinnati, Vivek Ramaswami from Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: the Great American from Cincinnati, I have hope. I'm watching
Speaker 1: the keeing Jeffries the other day, the leader of the
Speaker 1: Democrats in the House calling it the Dodge Committee. They
Speaker 1: want to dodge the issues intead of DOGE. If I
Speaker 1: add up, if I take defense spending, which people are
Speaker 1: Republicans are saying, I saw Speaker Johnson the other day
Speaker 1: say that's going up at least twenty five billion dollars
Speaker 1: or more. So, take defense spending. Take social Security with
Speaker 1: the Trumpsters set is off the table. Take Medicare Medicaid,
Speaker 1: which the Trumpeter says we have to expand Medicare and Medicaid.
Speaker 1: Take interest on the national debt, and take federal retirement programs.
Speaker 1: That's about an interest on the national that's about seventy
Speaker 1: percent of the budget. And so if you say, okay,
Speaker 1: we're going to go in, we're not going to cut
Speaker 1: defense spending. We're not going to cut Medicare and Medicaid,
Speaker 1: We're not going to cut social Security, we're not going
Speaker 1: to cut federal employment retirement programs. We can't cut interest
Speaker 1: on the national debt. So how do you get blood
Speaker 1: out of the turnip the last thirty percent? Explain that
Speaker 1: to the American people?
Speaker 6: Well, thank you so much for pointing that out. Look,
Speaker 6: this is the thing, Like we do think that the
Speaker 6: DOGE is a very positive of very positive development. But
Speaker 6: if the DOGE is not the tip of the spear,
Speaker 6: and there has to be a massive movement behind the DOGE.
Speaker 3: Then we're in trouble.
Speaker 6: If all it is is in an effort to cut
Speaker 6: a small portion of discretionary spending that is symbolic and
Speaker 6: than actually eat in to the mandatory side of our budget,
Speaker 6: which as you point out, is massive, then this won't
Speaker 6: be anything more than a drop in the bucket. So
Speaker 6: what we've been encouraging the DOGE to do is to
Speaker 6: first start with the discretionary spending. Start with start with
Speaker 6: portions of discretionary spending that are wildly unpopular, and go
Speaker 6: after them, but then demonstrate that you can actually do
Speaker 6: cuts and it's not the end of the world, and
Speaker 6: follow it with real mandatory spending cuts. So there are
Speaker 6: also and this is going to and here's the key thing, bill,
Speaker 6: this requires congressional action. So it's not just enough to
Speaker 6: do this for the DOSE to recommend that the president
Speaker 6: unilaterally take action in different agencies. That's fine, Okay, that's great.
Speaker 6: Let's let's find efficiencies where we can find the efficiencies.
Speaker 6: Let's cut some bureaucratic red tape and and and and
Speaker 6: and actually try to get downstream benefits from that.
Speaker 3: But again it's a drop in the bucket. You then
Speaker 3: have to follow the dose has.
Speaker 6: To follow that with a commitment to real reforms, and
Speaker 6: so the Congress has to enact things like that. If
Speaker 6: you want to do this, you got to repeal the
Speaker 6: Democrat's Green New Deal legislation otherwise known as the IRA.
Speaker 3: Explain that.
Speaker 1: Explain the amount of money involved on this Green New
Speaker 1: Deal folly. Explain how much money it was originally predicted
Speaker 1: to be about four hundred billion, turned out to be
Speaker 1: over a trillion. Explain that to Tony Bender, my producer,
Speaker 1: so even he can understand it.
Speaker 6: Well, look, I mean, I think Tony can get this.
Speaker 6: The Democrats and CBO promised that this would be a
Speaker 6: four hundred and thirty billion dollar bill over ten years. Okay,
Speaker 6: that's what they said that this was going to be.
Speaker 6: And as ever, with these kinds of programs, it ended
Speaker 6: up costs. It's now projected to cost over a trillion. Okay,
Speaker 6: So and what are we doing with this? Look down
Speaker 6: drilled down into the IRA. They said that they were
Speaker 6: going to appropriate seven point five billion dollars to build
Speaker 6: EV charging stations, which they appropriated, and yet we only
Speaker 6: have twenty of them built to date. Okay, so how
Speaker 6: many times it's twenty? You go into seven point five
Speaker 6: billion dollars? All right, how much are we paying for
Speaker 6: an EV charging station? I mean, this is the biggest boondoggle.
Speaker 3: In modern times. And so if the dose wants to
Speaker 3: be effective, the dose go ahead. Let's go cut all.
Speaker 6: That you know, discretionary spending and do it from from
Speaker 6: the executive branch. But then you better get Congress engaged.
Speaker 6: And Congress has to repeal, repeal the Green New Deal
Speaker 6: legislation and then get busy on mandatory spending.
Speaker 1: Including the Biden student lung cancelation cost about a trillion dollars.
Speaker 1: Planned parenthood, killing healthy unborn babies is five hundred million.
Speaker 1: Bad radio called public radio. I have to pay my
Speaker 1: tax dollars to a competitor that's a left wing extreme
Speaker 1: group called PBS. Got to do that. And another another
Speaker 1: thing is about ten to fifteen percent of retired folks
Speaker 1: don't need the money at all. How about means testing
Speaker 1: social Security? If I have multi millionaire friends like Tony
Speaker 1: Bender and others who don't need Social Security, but they
Speaker 1: collect it anyway because the checks and the mail how
Speaker 1: about advancing the age beginning if you're twenty five or
Speaker 1: thirty years old, it goes up to seventy two or
Speaker 1: seventy is easy things to do that don't affect the
Speaker 1: folks that are retired that need the money, but about
Speaker 1: ten to twenty percent of us don't need it, and
Speaker 1: we get it. How about those ideas? How about cutting
Speaker 1: Social Security to those who don't need it at all?
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you.
Speaker 6: That is absolutely correct. And look, this is let's be
Speaker 6: honest about this, and you're being honest about it. But
Speaker 6: you know, this is a weakness that we have in
Speaker 6: the Trump administration, and as you pointed out, they made
Speaker 6: a very strong commitment not to touch any of these
Speaker 6: of these entitlement programs. And look, it's not about cutting entitlements,
Speaker 6: it's about saving entitlements for the next generation. Right, They're
Speaker 6: not going to be there if not the next generation.
Speaker 6: So you got to find a way to make these
Speaker 6: kinds of no brain, common sense reforms like you just referenced,
Speaker 6: and be real with the American people. One of the
Speaker 6: reasons that Donald Trump got elected is because he is
Speaker 6: a far more authentic and straight shooting candidate than the
Speaker 6: person that he was running against. That needs to also
Speaker 6: apply to our federal budget, and that needs to apply
Speaker 6: to our entitlement programs. He's got the capacity to do it.
Speaker 6: He's got the capacity to level with the American people.
Speaker 6: We really need him to do it well.
Speaker 1: I also see out of Washington, eighty percent of federal
Speaker 1: employees beginning in twenty nineteen do not come to work,
Speaker 1: which has collapsed all the businesses around these federal buildings.
Speaker 1: To get rid of the Department of Agriculture, to get
Speaker 1: rid of the Department of Education, and block grant to
Speaker 1: the states to money saving all that, give them a
Speaker 1: two year golden parachute. To get the all out of Dodge.
Speaker 1: You could cut at least half of the federal government
Speaker 1: and all the programs. Give everybody a one or two
Speaker 1: year golden parachute to go find out the work, then
Speaker 1: sell the buildings and make billions of dollars. That's something.
Speaker 1: And one thing my bugaboo, of course is the Defense Department,
Speaker 1: which is Saker saying, I love American soldiers, but we
Speaker 1: have something like eight hundred military bases and one hundred
Speaker 1: different countries all over the world. We have a footprint
Speaker 1: unrivaled on Earth, And there's nothing wrong with saying, do
Speaker 1: we need two million men and women under arms in
Speaker 1: seven hundred and fifty or eight hundred military bases all
Speaker 1: over the world? Do we need thousands of generals and
Speaker 1: admirals serving as so we say, consultants after they left office,
Speaker 1: double dipping like crazy and the grunt. That's why I
Speaker 1: like Pete Hegseth. He's a guy at the grunt level.
Speaker 1: We've got two Bronze stars and served actually carried weapons
Speaker 1: in combat. We need people that have that kind of
Speaker 1: an attitude. Is there something wrong with maybe just holding
Speaker 1: defense spending to where it is for the next five
Speaker 1: years because the next war is going to be conducted
Speaker 1: by ten thousand drones that are now flying all over
Speaker 1: New Jersey, ten thousand drones instead of military men and
Speaker 1: women in uniform. We need them, yes, But the next
Speaker 1: we're building billion dollar nuclear powered submarines in which the
Speaker 1: next war is going to be conducted by drones. How
Speaker 1: about putting one hundred thousand drones up in the air
Speaker 1: programmed to kill the enemy artillery pieces and tanks and armaments.
Speaker 1: We don't need the army of the nineteen fifties today,
Speaker 1: do you agree with.
Speaker 3: That, I agree with very much part of it.
Speaker 6: I want to find as many efficiencies within the Department
Speaker 6: of Defense as possible. I want to end the woke
Speaker 6: and the nonfense that inspected this Department of Defense. I
Speaker 6: do have verious serious concerns.
Speaker 1: About our global rivals.
Speaker 3: In China and Russia and others.
Speaker 6: And if there's any place that the federal government should
Speaker 6: be spending money, and I'm okay with it, it's on
Speaker 6: making sure that we have the most badass military on
Speaker 6: the planet and that we can destroy our enemies.
Speaker 3: And like I would, I think that this administration will
Speaker 3: be committed to that.
Speaker 6: But there are plenty of places in the Department of
Speaker 6: Defense that have become so bloated and have become really lazy,
Speaker 6: and that's because you've allowed it to become a massive,
Speaker 6: massive bureaucracy. So I think, whoever the next Department of
Speaker 6: Defense you know, head is, and if that's Pete Hey Seth,
Speaker 6: he needs to get in there and he needs to
Speaker 6: fix that.
Speaker 3: As soon as possible. But I want to put pressure.
Speaker 6: I want to put I want to put pressure on
Speaker 6: our enemies, and I want to make sure by the way,
Speaker 6: you know, one little little known fact that we don't
Speaker 6: talk enough about is part of what makes America able
Speaker 6: to be so successful in terms of global commerce and
Speaker 6: be able to have such a large economy is our
Speaker 6: ability to protect global global commerce lanes or our ability
Speaker 6: to serve the safety UH of of and and our
Speaker 6: and our primacy.
Speaker 3: As as the globes leading nation.
Speaker 6: So I want to keep all of that and make
Speaker 6: sure that we are still lethal and able to UH
Speaker 6: wage wage war if that, if it ever comes to that.
Speaker 3: But you're one hundred percent right.
Speaker 6: And what you said earlier on about you know, the
Speaker 6: Department of Agriculture and the Department of Education. I mean absolutely,
Speaker 6: And there's a benefit downstream to say we were to
Speaker 6: close the Department of Education.
Speaker 3: Yes, the downstreat benefits of that.
Speaker 6: As you said, if we're block granting that money to states,
Speaker 6: you're going to get so much more efficiency with We're federalists, right.
Speaker 6: We believe in in states and in local governments and
Speaker 6: governments being as close to the people as possible, being
Speaker 6: able to make the decisions with tax to payer dollars.
Speaker 6: And you're going to get a much better product if
Speaker 6: you're able to allow that kind of energy to happen
Speaker 6: all across this country.
Speaker 1: You know, Tim Chapman of Advancing American Freedom. I'll believe
Speaker 1: it when I see it. There's lots of backbone in
Speaker 1: this one. It appears to be the case. If we
Speaker 1: we can say five hundred billion dollars in federal domestic
Speaker 1: spending by going back to twenty eighteen levels, not nineteen eighteen.
Speaker 1: I'm talking twenty eighteen levels. Is five hundred billion dollars
Speaker 1: plus all the empty federal buildings, plus all the federal employees.
Speaker 1: And I'll believe it when I see it. At a minimum,
Speaker 1: we've off the madness. But the best they can.
Speaker 3: Happen with me, you just got to keep your pressure up.
Speaker 1: That's it. But Tim Chapman, let's keep doing it because
Speaker 1: I know they're well intended. But the road to hell
Speaker 1: is paved with good intentions, and somehow this has to happen.
Speaker 1: And you can't get to where we need to be
Speaker 1: if you don't touch the entitlements which the media jumps
Speaker 1: on immediately. Tim Chapman, what is your group's website.
Speaker 6: Of any it's Advancingamericanfreedom dot com. We appreciate, we appreciate
Speaker 6: the support, and thanks for all you're.
Speaker 1: Doing all right. God bless America and Tim Chapman, thank
Speaker 1: you very much. Let's continue us more. I'll believe it
Speaker 1: when I see it. Good intentions, that's great, elon, good guy,
Speaker 1: vv JD, absolutely and all that stuff. But in reality,
Speaker 1: it takes courage to tell your constituents some of the
Speaker 1: goodies won't come your way. That takes courage, and maybe,
Speaker 1: uh maybe Donald Trump has testicular fortitude. Allright, Bully Cunningham,
Speaker 1: the Great America, and let's continue with more than about
Speaker 1: an hour or so. Peter Bronson will be here. Spoke
Speaker 1: out about the Northwest territories and more. I told the
Speaker 1: Trumpster about the eight months ago that I will take
Speaker 1: care of the Northwest territories. I'll be the right wing
Speaker 1: on the Northwest territories. Also joining us later will be
Speaker 1: Joe Dieters, who's Deaters Unplugged. In fact, Peter Bronson's writing
Speaker 1: a book with Joe Dieters about prosecuous office. That kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. Interesting. But until then, of course, I just
Speaker 1: heard the news talk about city council wants to have
Speaker 1: a sixty day waiting period. They want to study the
Speaker 1: issue for sixty days about homelessness. And what they can do.
Speaker 1: What they can't do is if it's a brand new toy,
Speaker 1: they can't discover on Christmas morning how to operate it.
Speaker 1: But a man that has all the answers is Kurt Hartman, attorney,
Speaker 1: former judge, works with Chris Finney and so much more.
Speaker 1: And Kurt Hartman, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham showed
Speaker 1: and Kurt, first of all, when you see and hear
Speaker 1: things from city council that they are going to study
Speaker 1: this problem for the next two months, come up with solutions.
Speaker 1: What do we do? How do we do it? The
Speaker 1: four to seventy one Big mac Bridge is burned to
Speaker 1: Dan Hills because of homelessness, and so does city council
Speaker 1: need another two months to study the issue or is
Speaker 1: there a court order ready to demand them to take action?
Speaker 5: Does the City council need in another two months? Bill?
Speaker 5: Absolutely not. You know, it's not like this it's some
Speaker 5: problem that just suddenly arose. I mean, this has just
Speaker 5: been plaguing the City of Cincinnati and do a part
Speaker 5: part to the lack of leadership coming from the Mayor's
Speaker 5: office and City Council. So it's nothing new. They've known
Speaker 5: about it. This is just, Hey, we're just going to
Speaker 5: do the status quo and just let things go and
Speaker 5: keep going down the path to become the San Francisco
Speaker 5: of the Midwest, if you will.
Speaker 1: I'm holding this order. We spoke off the air to
Speaker 1: say this is not a new problem. What would be
Speaker 1: accurate because I'm holding an order signed by Hamley County
Speaker 1: Common Police Court Judge Robert Rouhman about six and a
Speaker 1: half years ago, entered August is sixteenth, twenty eighteen, acquiring
Speaker 1: the city to do all kinds of stuff. Is this
Speaker 1: judgment entry still in effect in the permanent injunction? Is
Speaker 1: it still an effect?
Speaker 5: It absolutely is an effect. If you look on the
Speaker 5: probably the second to last page, it clearly says this
Speaker 5: order shall be permanent and enforced by Cincinnati Police, et cetera.
Speaker 5: So it is a permanent order, it's in place, and
Speaker 5: the city is elect has elected I think under this
Speaker 5: mayor to essentially ignore it basically snub their nose at
Speaker 5: a state court order that is a final judgment. It
Speaker 5: is an order that the City of Cincinnati actually agreed to.
Speaker 5: So it wasn't like we went it went to a
Speaker 5: trial and the judge kind of weighed the facts and
Speaker 5: the evidence. The city agreed to.
Speaker 1: This, why isn't it But why isn't it being impol
Speaker 1: But normally, when you order to do something and it's
Speaker 1: a permanent injunction and you ignore the order, bad things happen.
Speaker 1: So why is that not happening now?
Speaker 5: A good, excellent question, Uh don't have to answer. But
Speaker 5: you know, looking to with with Chis Citty, we're assessing
Speaker 5: probably maybe trying to get someone a citizen here in
Speaker 5: Hamilton County to come in and say hey, because this
Speaker 5: is a this case was brought in the name of
Speaker 5: the State of Ohio. Wasn't an individual, It was the
Speaker 5: state of Ohio saying, you know, tell any drug use,
Speaker 5: et cetera is occurring on these encampments. And if you
Speaker 5: remember back in twenty eighteen, you know that's when we
Speaker 5: when we had these plethora of homelessness camps, you know,
Speaker 5: on Third Street, people trying to go to you know,
Speaker 5: Bengals games or whatnot, or Reds games, you know, having
Speaker 5: to go through this stuff. It was San Francisco, the Midwest,
Speaker 5: and you know, Joe Dieters, who at the time was
Speaker 5: county prosecutor, had the authority under state law to basically
Speaker 5: abate what's called this nuisance at the nuisance what was
Speaker 5: going on, and Jode Roman agreed, the city agreed, All
Speaker 5: three agreed, and so you know, we want to see
Speaker 5: about going back into court. Have some citizens saying, hey,
Speaker 5: we need to get this enforced. Uh, and go to
Speaker 5: and address it with Judge Roman's successor, who at this
Speaker 5: time would be Judge pat think a loocker.
Speaker 1: Well, you're a lawyer. I'm a lawyer. Of course, Finny
Speaker 1: knows what he's doing. I talked to Attorney General David
Speaker 1: Yosh yesterday. He's willing to intervene, but someone must ask
Speaker 1: him to do it. And then the age asked the
Speaker 1: great American who has standing to bring this? And I said, well,
Speaker 1: Prosecutor's office could. How they're a party in the city
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati. Now, the City of Cincinnati is not going
Speaker 1: to request contempt of the City of Cincinnati, so it's
Speaker 1: up to the Prosecutor's office. And when I make inroads there,
Speaker 1: they tell me, well, you know, it'll be a Connie
Speaker 1: Pillag problem in about two weeks. Explain how a private citizen,
Speaker 1: someone living in and around Stanbury's Park in Mount Washington,
Speaker 1: how could a private citizen arise even there if they're
Speaker 1: not a party to this lawsuit and force the city
Speaker 1: to do what they said they would do, which is
Speaker 1: clean out homeless camps as soon as they developed. If
Speaker 1: they must be cleaning immediately, why how could a citizen
Speaker 1: jump into this lawsuit and say, I'll I'll charge the
Speaker 1: city with contempt?
Speaker 5: Right, It's simple. The state law that existed that Joe
Speaker 5: Deaders brought this action on doesn't limit it to the
Speaker 5: prosecutor bringing such an action. This state law specifically says
Speaker 5: any person who is as citizen of the county in
Speaker 5: which the nuisance exists may bring the action. So the
Speaker 5: state law actually gives any person in Hamilton County the authority,
Speaker 5: you know, to bring the similar lawsuit or in what
Speaker 5: we're assessing is, since we have a final judgment already
Speaker 5: on the boots signed by the judge, can that person
Speaker 5: come in and say, I would have the right initially
Speaker 5: to bring this suit. I want to join in and
Speaker 5: enforce this order that the city agreed to.
Speaker 1: Why haven't you done it already? Kurt Hartman? You and
Speaker 1: how come you guys, you infinean? Why haven't you done
Speaker 1: it already?
Speaker 5: Well? Well, well, well, you know, look, got to assess
Speaker 5: a few things because one of the you know, kind
Speaker 5: of a ticker in this is UH. At the same time,
Speaker 5: there was a parallel federal wallsuit going on UH and
Speaker 5: UH just recently this past year the city settled that,
Speaker 5: and trying to assess basically, you know, this federal state
Speaker 5: tug of war, you know, does did what the city
Speaker 5: agreed to in the federal lawsuit try to nullify what
Speaker 5: Judge Rulmans signed off on with basically some which knows
Speaker 5: at the state court. And so we may have some
Speaker 5: serious constitutional issues in terms of federal supremacy where the
Speaker 5: state your sovereignty, et cetera. So you know, you know,
Speaker 5: and and the good litigator, I think you would agree
Speaker 5: the good litigator kind of assesses those potential land mines
Speaker 5: at the outset of a case, as opposed to oops,
Speaker 5: I already tripped over a landmine. So that's part of
Speaker 5: the issue we wanted assess. Is this new case, this
Speaker 5: federal case, and what the city did there and were
Speaker 5: they really trying to deliberately undermine disorder from this from
Speaker 5: Judge Ruleman. Would I would not put anything, I would
Speaker 5: not put anything past this. The city Council and the
Speaker 5: city administration so very well could try to do that.
Speaker 1: The new liberals on council may be recognizing they had
Speaker 1: this order from Hamlety County common Polace Court created a
Speaker 1: conflict of law situation. I remember them in law school,
Speaker 1: conflict of law was a big issue by starting a
Speaker 1: federal lawsuit to try to get the case out of
Speaker 1: common place court in the federal court. And are the
Speaker 1: two orders different in any significant extent?
Speaker 5: Uh, there does seem to be, like I said, just
Speaker 5: getting on that federal case. But it seems like the
Speaker 5: federal court they agreed instead of immediately calling the police,
Speaker 5: you got to call a social worker to come out
Speaker 5: and try to negotiate or talk with people who are
Speaker 5: using drugs in these homeless camps before you can charge
Speaker 5: them with a trespass or anything. And so it seems
Speaker 5: like the city was deliberately trying, you know. And the
Speaker 5: one question is do they even apprize the federal judge
Speaker 5: of this order that they were bound by under state law.
Speaker 5: So and this this is a little bit more investigation.
Speaker 1: And Kurt Hartman, this isn't a federal I don't know
Speaker 1: what the jurisdiction was uh, to go to a federal.
Speaker 5: You'll love this. The claim was and it was brought
Speaker 5: by the homeless coalist I believe in that that group
Speaker 5: in Cincinnati against the city. Their whole claim was removing
Speaker 5: people from homelessness or using drugs on property that they
Speaker 5: don't own is cruel and unusual, perce well vinument.
Speaker 1: Now, there was a US Supreme Court decision on that
Speaker 1: about six months ago, and the Supremes decided it's a
Speaker 1: local matter and that there are not constitutional slash federal issues. Now,
Speaker 1: that came after the lawsuit in federal court. But the
Speaker 1: interaction of the US Supreme Court decision and involved Portland, Oregon,
Speaker 1: and there were some homeless Coalition camp operators in Portland,
Speaker 1: Oregon that that said there are federal issues here, which
Speaker 1: clearly they are not. And the Supreme Court sent it
Speaker 1: back to Portland, Oregon claiming to do what you have
Speaker 1: to do? How about getting that US Supreme Court decision
Speaker 1: to overrule the federal court decision to implement this order
Speaker 1: of judge Ruleman, does that make sense?
Speaker 5: Willie? You clearly see the whole lay of the lay
Speaker 5: and that's the issue. You know, the Supreme Court, Supreme
Speaker 5: law and it is a local issue. It's a police power,
Speaker 5: it's a health safety and welfare issue. And you know
Speaker 5: from law school and practicing law, those are state and
Speaker 5: local issues. Those are not federal issues.
Speaker 1: In fact, we live at a time now where the
Speaker 1: US Supreme Court is telling the States under the ninth
Speaker 1: and tenth Amendment, we're done expanding the ability and power
Speaker 1: of federal courts over strictly local matters. And this is
Speaker 1: a strictly local matter without federal issues. And if you
Speaker 1: interact with the US Supreme Court decision on the consent
Speaker 1: decree in the federal court case here, I think you're
Speaker 1: on firm legal foot. And how about this? Can something
Speaker 1: be done while Melissa Powers is still in office over
Speaker 1: the next two weeks. I have a sense that Connie Pillach,
Speaker 1: who's perceived to be a liberal, and I have no
Speaker 1: idea if she is at some point I want to
Speaker 1: meet with her. I have no idea if she is
Speaker 1: or is not. But I would think the the Attorney
Speaker 1: General told me that if someone will contact him, he
Speaker 1: would seriously consider her intervening in the case. So when
Speaker 1: the prosecutor's office changes, the AG will be a named party.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, and therefore what you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: There, Yeah, yeah, I think I think right now, just
Speaker 5: because the change of all the change, you know, a
Speaker 5: personnel's occurring in about two weeks in our prosecutor's office,
Speaker 5: you know, missing powers could proceed, you know, try to
Speaker 5: hold a contempt, et cetera. But by the time that happens,
Speaker 5: right new prosecutors in place, and would be a waste
Speaker 5: of resources, you know, here here in December. But you
Speaker 5: very easily can make a call to the Attorney General
Speaker 5: Yost and say, hey, we've got this issue here in Cincinnati.
Speaker 5: It's been brewing, the city's ignoring it. Mister Yost, mister
Speaker 5: Attorney General, for the sake of the people of Hamilton
Speaker 5: County and the city of Cincinnati, we need you to
Speaker 5: come in and intervene in this case. And you all
Speaker 5: see him coming in and intervening, I think would be
Speaker 5: a lot more stronger, It would be a lot more
Speaker 5: oomped to it, if you will, than a private citizen
Speaker 5: doing it. We're looking at having a private citizen do it.
Speaker 5: But if Dave Yost will do it, that I think
Speaker 5: the court will take significant note of that issue.
Speaker 1: Well, Lastly, I'll say this to you, Kurt Hartman. I
Speaker 1: will give you the private cell phone number of mister
Speaker 1: Attorney General David Yost and before January rolls around, if
Speaker 1: he can intervene, away we go. And I think that's
Speaker 1: the approach to take, and then the people must be served.
Speaker 1: I'll give you the number off the air.
Speaker 5: I'll give him a call.
Speaker 1: I call. I'll call you after three o'clock today. We'll
Speaker 1: talk further.
Speaker 5: I understand, I understand. Yeah, that's got to be addressed.
Speaker 5: I mean, right now you've got city leadership just ignoring
Speaker 5: the court order, and that's not acceptable.
Speaker 1: Leslie.
Speaker 5: What what do you expect when you elect nine progressives
Speaker 5: you'll and a mayor? What do you expect them to do?
Speaker 5: And like I said, they're trying to drive us to
Speaker 5: the San Francisco of the Midwest.
Speaker 1: Well, what we have to do. We have to have
Speaker 1: the mayor and share along comply with the law under contempt,
Speaker 1: which couldn't involve fines or imprisonment if you refuse to
Speaker 1: follow the law. Kurt Hartman, I'll be in touch with
Speaker 1: you after three o'clock. I'm gonna call yous first make
Speaker 1: sure I can give you his cell phone, and then
Speaker 1: if that's okay with him, away we go perfect. Thank you, Bill,
Speaker 1: God bless America. Let's continue. Bill Cunningham News Radio seven
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Speaker 1: had a little bit of illness in the family. Coach
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Speaker 1: Anything, fall on your knees? Fall on your knees? Who oh?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 5: You ready?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 8: The NFL is going to add a game show what
Speaker 8: and a punting contest to its Pro Bowl Skills competition
Speaker 8: in February?
Speaker 1: Say that again? The name show?
Speaker 8: The National Football League is adding a game show and
Speaker 8: a punting contest to its Pro Bowl Skills competition coming
Speaker 8: up in February. This Pro Bowl thing has gone idiotic,
Speaker 8: don't understand. The league announced a full list of challenges,
Speaker 8: including a tug of war whereas nobody can get hurt?
Speaker 8: A tug of war? Right, and dodgeball. What about these
Speaker 8: guys the head any football? Well, they're going to have
Speaker 8: a seven on seven flag.
Speaker 1: Football including a yeah, a tugging contest, Yeah, tug of
Speaker 1: war and dodgeball. Nobody's gonna get hurt in that, right?
Speaker 1: What can go wrong? Well, look at Tyler Eifert every
Speaker 1: time he went to the Pro Bowl, he got hurt.
Speaker 1: Didn't go after that, did he?
Speaker 9: Uh?
Speaker 8: They knew this year as Helmet Harmony, it's going to
Speaker 8: be a game show that will test players knowledge of
Speaker 8: their teammates. Can't wait, that'll be well, boy, I tell
Speaker 8: you that'll be a barn Burner. Wonder who wonder who's
Speaker 8: hosting that Drew Carry, Chris Collinsworth or maybe uh uh
Speaker 8: what's his name? Brady on the on Let's make a
Speaker 8: deal plus plus a Wayne Brady plus a punt perfect
Speaker 8: that features one punter and one non punter. They're going
Speaker 8: to see how many balls they can kick into the
Speaker 8: into six buckets that are positioned in the end zone.
Speaker 1: NBA is going to change their stuff too. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's stupid, stupid. I mean, what is it really stupid?
Speaker 1: You've got to go to the circus and see this.
Speaker 1: This is stupid. It is stupid, stupid. Yeah, boy, you
Speaker 1: know what.
Speaker 8: I hope some Bengals go to this, But then I
Speaker 8: hope they don't participate because every time one of the
Speaker 8: Bengals go down there, they get hurt.
Speaker 1: Possibly the Super Bowl will be a week later and
Speaker 1: the Bengals will be involved in the Super Bowl. Wouldn't
Speaker 1: that be something.
Speaker 8: I'd be action right there segment, get me out of
Speaker 8: the Student's Report? Will you honor of a cold day
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Speaker 1: We leave you with the immortal words of the Stooge Report.
Speaker 1: Hey everyone, I'm Joe Biden's housman. By the way, He's
Speaker 1: a quiet quitting is what it's called. Why are they?
Speaker 8: Why are they blasting Trump on this government shutdown?
Speaker 1: Out to be checking out? What's his name? And he
Speaker 1: and jar King Jeffries or no big Jake Joe. Well
Speaker 1: he's in Delaware right now. It's called quiet quitting. We
Speaker 1: have a president quietly quitting great not involved in this
Speaker 1: immediate demand he get involved. Hell no, they don't know
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Speaker 8: They're worried about man Jony coming in and helicopters and planes.
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Speaker 1: Peter Bronson his hair with his blockbuster new book Promised Land,
Speaker 1: Joe Dieters makeson and the parents also, since you're unemployed
Speaker 1: and Peter Bronson, you know this is the walk up
Speaker 1: music for Joseph T and T theaters. Get ready, Joe,
Speaker 1: you ready? This is what he does with the criminals
Speaker 1: of Hamlet the county. Now he's free. Hit its.
Speaker 3: Tell TV.
Speaker 1: You need some walk up music, Peter, I'll have to
Speaker 1: think he's got history books. This will never change. He
Speaker 1: got women of the left, women of the right. Not
Speaker 1: so much anymore. Not anymore. You had your time like
Speaker 1: Rocky Boyman with the cheerleaders for the Colts. That's a
Speaker 1: different story. Don't bring that up here. It is hit
Speaker 1: the post, T N T. I'm dynamite. He's gonna win
Speaker 1: this fight. The only time he's lost to John Waxmunsky
Speaker 1: Springfield Township. That may come up again.
Speaker 10: By the way, I know I'm because you asked me
Speaker 10: to m your thing and my invested sure, my last
Speaker 10: swearing in ceremony in my career, and I always have
Speaker 10: to weigh that against I you know you're my best friend.
Speaker 9: I have to weigh that against you. Bring up John
Speaker 9: wax Monsky for the one millionth time.
Speaker 1: Plus you switching the balls and number eleven Green and
Speaker 1: Mcentateble did that too, now, Peter Bronson, I certainly scheduled you.
Speaker 11: Well, I'm in August company here a radio legend and
Speaker 11: a former Supreme Court justice for unemployed, for this unemployed
Speaker 11: and maybe future author.
Speaker 1: We don't know, we'll see. And you're writing a book
Speaker 1: together right now, and this thing for me, what's it
Speaker 1: going to be? Peter Bronson writes, well, what's the book about?
Speaker 9: Well, as you know, I have prosecuted five serial killers
Speaker 9: and it's about big cases.
Speaker 1: And people will be interested in Donald Harven good stories. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Franklin again talking about him. Wigan's Dulcan. Well, I can't
Speaker 1: hear the case. It's in front of the highest Supreme
Speaker 1: Court right now. Well, the liberal judges in Almony County
Speaker 1: may free him soon. Well, they might.
Speaker 9: People get you know, they should pay attention to who
Speaker 9: they vote for, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Le's talk about Peter's book. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about Promise Land. I mean I get that with him.
Speaker 1: But said people will get to the Promised Land. Yes,
Speaker 1: one of the great things he said in Joe, I
Speaker 1: didn't know this, but there was a general in uh Cincinnati, yes,
Speaker 1: Lusantaville and Cincinnati who saved the city from the Confederates.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 11: Explain that to Joe. Hey, Lou Wallace was one of
Speaker 11: the greatest people. And you know in Indiana he's a
Speaker 11: folk hero. They know all about him. They're raised up
Speaker 11: through the grade schools. They learned about Lou Wallace in Cincinnati,
Speaker 11: the city he saved in the Civil War.
Speaker 1: We don't know anything about Lou Wallace, and he is
Speaker 1: an incredible guy. You know about Lou Wallace, I do
Speaker 1: have to read in Peter's book, tell me about Lou
Speaker 1: Wallace who saved the city from the terrible Democrat. And
Speaker 1: by the way, this is my favorite book. Peter wrote,
Speaker 1: It's fairly good, very really good. Explained how you guys
Speaker 1: saved it. Well, this guy's incredible.
Speaker 11: If you if you asked somebody, who's the guy who
Speaker 11: saved Cincinnati during the Civil War and probably saved the
Speaker 11: Union by rescuing us from attack of ten thousand Confederate
Speaker 11: warriors who were going to burn in sack the city.
Speaker 11: Who is the guy who captured Billy the kid, who
Speaker 11: was the guy who formed the first Black brigade during.
Speaker 1: The Civil War?
Speaker 11: And who was the guy who wrote Ben hr It's
Speaker 11: all the same guy. What it's Lou Wallace wrote Ben Her?
Speaker 11: He wrote, saved the city. Yes, explain, explain this Cincinnati
Speaker 11: was under attack. General Heath came up from Lexington with
Speaker 11: ten thousand battle hearted and Confederate warriors. Yeah, they were
Speaker 11: ready to burn and loot the city. They had We
Speaker 11: had gold, we had supplies, we had everything you wanted.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 1: And if they had.
Speaker 11: Yeah, if they had taken Cincinnati, imagine they would have
Speaker 11: split the Union. The Union probably would have been forced
Speaker 11: to sue for peace.
Speaker 1: We would now we would have been two countries.
Speaker 11: But lou Wallace showed up just as the copperhead Southern
Speaker 11: sympathizer mayor was ready to wave the white flag.
Speaker 1: And so we had a mayor at that point like
Speaker 1: an Aftab Puer of bal Yes, it was a Buddhist
Speaker 1: and now we have Aftab Pierida. Was George Hatch. George Hatch, Yes,
Speaker 1: maybe the high maybe Hatch Street, Hat Street. Yes, George
Speaker 1: Hatch was was a we need.
Speaker 11: He was a Southern sympathizer. He really wanted the Confederates
Speaker 11: to win. He was needed to get a hold of Amazon,
Speaker 11: to get a backbone. This guy had no bat That's
Speaker 11: the guy.
Speaker 1: That guy said, Okay, I'm gonna I'm going to surrender
Speaker 1: the city to the Confederacy. Right, what year was it?
Speaker 1: Eighteen eighteen sixty two, sixty. In the beginning, things aren't
Speaker 1: looking good. Gettysburg hadn't happened yet. No, I think now
Speaker 1: we're going to win or lose. September eighth, eighteen sixty two.
Speaker 1: It's really right down. Write that down, Joe, September eighth,
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty eighteen. Here's a critical day.
Speaker 11: September eleventh, eighteen sixty two, was the day that lou
Speaker 11: Wallace won and the Confederates acted in and went back
Speaker 11: south to Lexington. September eleventh, Yes, nine to eleven, Pete
Speaker 11: Road sixty two, Pete Rose, rest in peace.
Speaker 1: So explain the story. Here's this wheat Need mayor, and
Speaker 1: he's ready to concede the city to the Confederacy, and
Speaker 1: a lot of sympathizers were here.
Speaker 11: Correct, Yes, what happened. Cincinnati had a lot of copperheads.
Speaker 11: But anyway, so still Wallace shows up and he said,
Speaker 11: put away the white flags. We're not surrendering. We're going
Speaker 11: to fight. And the mayor said, how are we going
Speaker 11: to fight? We don't have troops, we don't have a cannon.
Speaker 11: And he said, Cincinnati will defend itself. And he ordered
Speaker 11: every able bodied man to pick up a shovel, a pick,
Speaker 11: or a rifle and walk across the first bridge across
Speaker 11: the Ohio River that they made, pontoon bridge, Yes, a
Speaker 11: pontoon bridge that he made in three days.
Speaker 1: This all happened.
Speaker 11: Walk across and start building rifle pits and batteries. And
Speaker 11: when Heath got up here and he saw this defenses
Speaker 11: that lou Wallace had built.
Speaker 1: Really yeah, So Cincinnatians went into northern Kentuck I guess
Speaker 1: coming to Newport. Yes, and they built defensive positions. Yes,
Speaker 1: a whole string seven mile How about that, Joe, would
Speaker 1: you have done that? Of course I would have. Please continue.
Speaker 1: So in northern rob Sanders wasn't around yet, so so
Speaker 1: he gets there from the copperheads from Lexington and said, man, this,
Speaker 1: we don't want to fight these guys. Well, there's two
Speaker 1: versions of that.
Speaker 11: One is that he got recalled by his general and
Speaker 11: he still believed for years later that he would have won,
Speaker 11: he would have taken Cincinnati. But lou Wallace he had
Speaker 11: another version of the story, which is he built all
Speaker 11: these defenses and the Confederates get addled, as he put ever, scared.
Speaker 11: But he was hailed as the savior of Cincinnati, paraded
Speaker 11: through the streets, honored booze every chicken wings. Burnett House
Speaker 11: was the most famous hotel in the country.
Speaker 1: At Burnett House, Yeah, where was that up And it
Speaker 1: was right a Vine, third and Vine. Yeah, there's a
Speaker 1: parking lot there now, right now. And lou saved the city.
Speaker 1: What happened to the mayor? What happened to Hatch?
Speaker 5: Hatch?
Speaker 11: He was not well liked, but there were a lot
Speaker 11: of Confederate sympathy in Cincinnati. You gotta remember, this is
Speaker 11: a city that had been doing business with the South,
Speaker 11: making money, and they hated Lincoln. They almost killed him
Speaker 11: when he came through on his way to the Anaugia Rate.
Speaker 1: And I explained that because Lincoln went from Illinois to
Speaker 1: Washington and there was great fear he was going to
Speaker 1: be killed along the way. Yes, so he put on disguises.
Speaker 1: When you're six foot four with a stove top hat,
Speaker 1: kind of hard to put on disguise, Joe, and like
Speaker 1: a bear. To explain how Lincoln was almost killed in Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: you got you know your history.
Speaker 11: Because he did put on a disguise when he got
Speaker 11: to Baltimore, because there was there was a plot in
Speaker 11: Baltimore of people that were assassins that wanted to knife.
Speaker 1: How do you put on disguise if you're Abraham Lincoln.
Speaker 11: Well he put on a long coat, turned up the collar,
Speaker 11: but then they crowd spotted him and he had to run.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what happened in Cincinnati, and they see your face.
Speaker 1: When I show up, I put my collar up and
Speaker 1: the ladies go nuts. Yeah, I bet they do. So
Speaker 1: how did was Lincoln almost killed? We got to talk
Speaker 1: about your book The Promised Man at some point. Anyway,
Speaker 1: how is Lincoln almost killed? This an amazing story.
Speaker 11: So what happens is he stops in Cincinnati on his
Speaker 11: inaugural train on his way to Baltimore, and he's overnight here.
Speaker 11: He gives a speech, He gets back on his train
Speaker 11: car the next day, and one of the smart sharp
Speaker 11: detectives spotted a carpet bag that didn't.
Speaker 1: Belong in his car, a carpetbagger.
Speaker 11: And the carpet bag contained a bomb that would have
Speaker 11: blown the entire train car off the tracks, and that
Speaker 11: was Lincoln's car. So, by a matter of about ten minutes,
Speaker 11: he avoided assassination before becoming president.
Speaker 1: It's like the soldier outside of Forge Theater who went
Speaker 1: downstairs to get a drink, who left Lincoln unguarded, which
Speaker 1: is how John Wilks s Boots said, Well, the guy's left,
Speaker 1: he's drunk down on the bar. That's how he killed Lincoln.
Speaker 1: It's amazing how history can turn on such little things.
Speaker 1: Or FDR shot on our railroad platform just before the
Speaker 1: inaugural in nineteen thirty three, and the guy missed and
Speaker 1: killed the mayor of Chicago. Standing next day to FDR. Joe,
Speaker 1: what about that wild man? Wild man, he's going to
Speaker 1: be next to week. Well, we got to run, thanks guys,
Speaker 1: but explained the book, and then we gotta talk to
Speaker 1: You're gonna stick around for the STUDI stick around for
Speaker 1: the Yeah, yeah, yeah, tell me about the book, promise. Okay.
Speaker 11: So this is about the people who came down the
Speaker 11: Ohio River on flat boats in the seventeen eighties when
Speaker 11: the north side of the Ohio was so dangerous it
Speaker 11: was known as the Miami Slaughterhouse, kind of like OTR. No, Well, yeah,
Speaker 11: only this was the Miami and the Shawnees when they
Speaker 11: were skinning you alive and they were taking your tortuing you,
Speaker 11: they burn you for torture you for three days at
Speaker 11: a time, and make you last as long as they
Speaker 11: could keep you alive.
Speaker 1: There are horrible things done on both sides, by the way.
Speaker 9: The Indians were mean to Indians, aren't they mean? Indians
Speaker 9: were mean to white people, and white people were mean
Speaker 9: the Indians.
Speaker 11: Absolutely, So the difference, if there is one fine point
Speaker 11: of difference, it's that the white people did not take
Speaker 11: their prisoners and entertain everybody for three days of torture.
Speaker 11: The Indians did that routinely, just for the entire tribe
Speaker 11: would gather and just do things, take part and take
Speaker 11: turns torturing something.
Speaker 1: Well anyway, So these people came here kind of like
Speaker 1: an argument before the High Supreme Court. Exactly, you take
Speaker 1: times being tortured by Sharon Kennedy anyway, please continue, Okay.
Speaker 11: So they couldn't find anybody to settle this land, so
Speaker 11: they told the Revolutionary war veterans, you've just defeated the
Speaker 11: biggest empire on earth. Congratulations. Bad news is we don't
Speaker 11: have any money in the treasury to paan pay.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 11: But but good news, free land in Ohio as much
Speaker 11: as you were.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where you're skinned alive and scout that the
Speaker 1: three days. I don't want to go there. That was
Speaker 1: the fine print. Those are tough dudes, correct, Hey, we're
Speaker 1: very tough dudes. Simon Kenton, Simon Kenton. He was a
Speaker 1: mean man. Sigone mean man. And uh, if you were
Speaker 1: hung or burned. I saw the movie Last of the Mohigans.
Speaker 1: They would hang the British soldiers from a little bit
Speaker 1: of a tripod and just slow roast them over a
Speaker 1: period of time, slow roasted. Yeah, the injur is in
Speaker 1: cineray Take days. They would put cools around the pole
Speaker 1: and slowly push them in this intense for fund and
Speaker 1: then they shoots you with arrows and the lake and
Speaker 1: you know. The torture a prisoner.
Speaker 9: I don't know what you found, Peter, but it basically
Speaker 9: ended with the Kamza said it was it was not
Speaker 9: right to torture prisoner, just kill him out right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he is no problem with killing people. I
Speaker 1: would they treat women? How many rapes? Would all of them?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 1: Everybody?
Speaker 11: You got to remember here, the British were still really
Speaker 11: angry that they'd lost the revolution. They are and they
Speaker 11: didn't want to have any chance that these colonies would
Speaker 11: spread into what they thought was Canadian land, that was
Speaker 11: all going to be part of Canada.
Speaker 1: Ohiowood might be again our fifty first state, Trump says, Canada. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's hope.
Speaker 11: So so they the British, were paying these tribes of
Speaker 11: Indians who were glad to do it anyway. But they
Speaker 11: paid him fifty dollars for scalps and one hundred dollars
Speaker 11: for a hostage. And then if they could march them
Speaker 11: on the way to Fort Detroit, then those people would
Speaker 11: be made into slaves in Canada. Women, boys, men didn't
Speaker 11: survive well, not good.
Speaker 1: If they fought back, they were victims of torture. There
Speaker 1: were testicles removed and stuffed in their mouth, or they
Speaker 1: were in the gauntlet. The Gauntlet's another problem, the gauntlet.
Speaker 1: Simon Kentton survived like ten of those, not like he's
Speaker 1: the only one to survived. Initially. If you get into
Speaker 1: sane next, Oh, you have counseling waiting for you, you do,
Speaker 1: let's continue. Peter Bronson, Joe Dieters counseling on seven hundred WLW.
Speaker 4: America is a nation that can be defined in a
Speaker 4: single word. I was gonna foot him.
Speaker 1: He quiet, I'm broadcasting, have celebrity stooges remaining.
Speaker 8: I'll tell you what will you I'm not I'm not
Speaker 8: used to these heavy weights in here, big time lawyers,
Speaker 8: big time prosecutors, and a big time author and journalist.
Speaker 5: I know it.
Speaker 1: Seg wants to know he's cheap. It's like a democrat.
Speaker 1: But he wants to what do you get the promise?
Speaker 1: I mean, where do you get promised land by Peter Bronson?
Speaker 11: You can get it right from me, right now, Seg,
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Speaker 1: as good as the man who says Cincinnat.
Speaker 11: I think so, but every one is my favorite. When
Speaker 11: I finished, unbelievable.
Speaker 1: But Joe, when's the next one?
Speaker 10: Uh?
Speaker 1: Joe Dieter from now he's got to write Joe Peter's
Speaker 1: murder mysteries.
Speaker 8: It's not a mystery, No, they're all like the hardy boys.
Speaker 1: They're all sold is cold case clock talk about if
Speaker 1: you can. The gauntlets segment thinks he runs a gaulin
Speaker 1: every morning with Chuck every morning. It's every afternoon with.
Speaker 9: The Indians would line up, you know too, across from
Speaker 9: each other and go for about a mile, and a
Speaker 9: frontiersman or someone who fell that the Indians hands would.
Speaker 1: Have to run that mile.
Speaker 9: The Indians were armed with clubs and rocks and sticks
Speaker 9: and whatever else they could gather up. And you had
Speaker 9: to run through this thing. Why they beat the hell
Speaker 9: out of you. What if you fell, If you fell,
Speaker 9: you were beating the death.
Speaker 11: Well, Simon Kenton fell almost at the end, he said, almost.
Speaker 1: To the end. Simon story I heard was a little
Speaker 1: bit different than what Joe told. But he fell and
Speaker 1: they revived him and made him start over here according to.
Speaker 9: Acording to Shawnee, I don't think it's a legend, and
Speaker 9: was told widely. He collapsed at the end ever getting
Speaker 9: hitting the head with a club and a squaw. An
Speaker 9: older lady was squatting over his face, beating him in
Speaker 9: his lower body.
Speaker 1: He reared up and bit her.
Speaker 9: In the card in the ground area and wouldn't let go,
Speaker 9: and she was screaming, bloody murdered.
Speaker 1: The Indians thought it was just there, That wasn't raw
Speaker 1: wrestling the other night.
Speaker 8: Sure, I think he got mixed up.
Speaker 1: Simon Kenton should have copyrighted the move. But I'm not
Speaker 1: sure you can say squaw anymore. But he bit her
Speaker 1: in the crotch if he took a piece of the
Speaker 1: Indian squalls private parts. And the other Indians were laughing.
Speaker 1: They thought it was just there. And then na the
Speaker 1: high school name of the high school, right, didn't they Simon Ken,
Speaker 1: I'm Kenton right now? He's how big? Can you tell me? Peter?
Speaker 1: He was six foot five? Yeah, he was nasty, five
Speaker 1: sixty six.
Speaker 11: He's a big, big, tough guy and he could run
Speaker 11: like the deer. The Indians couldn't catch him. And he
Speaker 11: also taught himself to load his muzzle loading musket while
Speaker 11: he was running.
Speaker 1: And that's what they could there.
Speaker 11: No, they never could figure out how this guy could
Speaker 11: keep shooting at him while he's running and they get
Speaker 11: one shot and then they got to go for the time.
Speaker 9: If you want to see a rifle, if you want
Speaker 9: to see a good The latest State Park in Ohio
Speaker 9: is the Great Council State Park between Xenia and Yellow Springs.
Speaker 9: It's fran Dewin's Park because Franz loves he really really
Speaker 9: did it.
Speaker 1: And it's a beautiful place.
Speaker 9: If people wanted to learn the history the Frontiersman and
Speaker 9: the Shawnees, it's a great place to see.
Speaker 1: Debscribe to Cumpsey was the main guy. He was born
Speaker 1: there Yellow Springs. Now a bunch of damn liberals. That's
Speaker 1: a different issue. But and he lived and he died
Speaker 1: defending Indian rights against the ugly Colraine Township segment Dennis
Speaker 1: and Frontierman. But how many people lived? What comes out, Oh, there's.
Speaker 9: One hundred thousand Indians and in that in shallow cause
Speaker 9: I think known as RedHawks right now, Joe, you can't
Speaker 9: say Indians.
Speaker 1: The rules Shawnees.
Speaker 9: And they would the white The whites would take their
Speaker 9: flat boats, as Peter said, and they float down from
Speaker 9: Fort Pitt and they would settle in Kentucky. And it
Speaker 9: was such an offense to the Shawnees because that was
Speaker 9: their sacred hunting ground in Kentucky. And so they took
Speaker 9: umbrage to people living there.
Speaker 1: So you know, they.
Speaker 9: Had Indian fights and Peter's book. I'm sure details in
Speaker 9: a much better way than I can, But there was
Speaker 9: ugliness on both sides beyond belief.
Speaker 1: What did the Indians do to these frontiersmen if they
Speaker 1: caught them, Well, there was not good segment not good.
Speaker 1: For example, one method of torture would be that they'd
Speaker 1: slowly burn your fingers off, and when you lost all
Speaker 1: nerves and sensation, then they would cut off your hand
Speaker 1: at the wrist and start over segment your reaction.
Speaker 9: And then we had American soldiers who burned Christian Indians
Speaker 9: in central Ohio, and they were placing it and told
Speaker 9: these these women and children there who were Christian by
Speaker 9: the way, prepared to die, pray tonight, and they just
Speaker 9: set the building on fire the next day.
Speaker 1: It was horrible stuff. It was a savage, savage battle.
Speaker 11: And really the guy who settled all this Finally, after
Speaker 11: two expeditions sent by George Washington to make the Northwest
Speaker 11: Territory safe for settlement, two of them met with so
Speaker 11: terrible failure they were completely massacred.
Speaker 1: Saint Clair's massacre.
Speaker 11: Was known as the Battle of a Thousand Slain, which
Speaker 11: is the biggest Indian victory, including Custer's last stand, which
Speaker 11: was only two hundred and fifty guys. And that happened
Speaker 11: right here in Ohio at Defiance, Ohio. Segment, your reaction
Speaker 11: about that? Give them some sports.
Speaker 8: And Jone's got a job. He's going to work for
Speaker 8: the Ohio Historical Society. He was a Supreme courtage job.
Speaker 8: Right now, there you go. You could be a tour guide.
Speaker 8: There's between hat, his little hat and a badge. Nothing
Speaker 8: to be looking good, losing stuff all over here. And
Speaker 8: I talked to Tanya Rourke. She's gonna go get your
Speaker 8: phone at the Capitol Grill. I got good fun left
Speaker 8: it in the men's room. That's a different issue. Segment.
Speaker 1: How do you know all this? I know, I know,
Speaker 1: I know. Segment. Give me some sports and make it fast.
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Speaker 1: Who's the man that killed Arambe? Same guy that killed
Speaker 1: Liberty Valance? There he sits right there. I was in
Speaker 1: the teams was not me? It was read the bottom
Speaker 1: underneath Harambe. What does it say?
Speaker 8: Can't say murdered in cold blood? Joe Dieters around that
Speaker 8: kid for a while, Code Red. He saved the kid's life.
Speaker 1: Forget about the facts. Zero for the facts. Sierra tolerance
Speaker 1: for a gorilla hauling a kid into the moat and
Speaker 1: trying to beat the crap out of him. Columbus.
Speaker 8: Columbus comes here Saturday, July the twelfth, and they will
Speaker 8: FCC will play at the defending MLS Cup champion l
Speaker 8: A l A Galaxy. In September, says they're murdered for
Speaker 8: no reason by Joe Dieters.
Speaker 1: I did not have enough.
Speaker 8: He keeps forgetting his T shirt over there. The Harambe's
Speaker 8: the new the newest sports team in town.
Speaker 1: We're keeping the Harambas, the FC Harambas. We keep forgetting
Speaker 1: that shirt. He lives in Joe, you've done that. He
Speaker 1: lives only in our memory, along with Fiona and Tucker.
Speaker 1: What about Fiona and Tucker?
Speaker 8: There's what about BB and uh? What's the other ones?
Speaker 8: What's the little one's name?
Speaker 1: Now? I say that a little monkey that was addicted?
Speaker 1: What about the monkey that was drug addicted? I say
Speaker 1: that I saved the off spring off a rhombe. What happened?
Speaker 1: I saved you?
Speaker 9: He was being that when I was outside that bar,
Speaker 9: And that was a different, different one.
Speaker 1: This this monkey was drug addicted.
Speaker 9: And we seized him and got him back into rehab
Speaker 9: in Indiana and send.
Speaker 1: Him to Florida.
Speaker 9: So yeah, when they had to dry out, he was
Speaker 9: drouging crack every day?
Speaker 1: Why was he smoking crack? Why would his boss was
Speaker 1: smoking crab?
Speaker 9: Because ever the center downtown, No, no, no, it was
Speaker 9: out house Horrange township was out out in near you se.
Speaker 1: And he's counseling in sant X obviously. So when you
Speaker 1: got a drug addicted monkey, what do you do.
Speaker 9: There's a little rehab spot in Indiana and we sent
Speaker 9: him to and he got cleaned up clean.
Speaker 1: But he's now he's down in Florida. Someone he's grab
Speaker 1: Somebody send me these pictures. Other brothers playing golf and smoking.
Speaker 8: Cigarettes, sitting at some golf course someplace smoking.
Speaker 1: So what wasn't that up Monkey and Loveland that I visited?
Speaker 1: It was like a monkey bar. What was his name?
Speaker 11: I can't remember his name, but remember there's big Let's
Speaker 11: say his name was Charlie or so free Charlie.
Speaker 1: There were signs up everyone. He drank beer with him.
Speaker 1: I sat in the bar when he smoked cigarettes cigarettes,
Speaker 1: and I said, hey, you want another one, gave another
Speaker 1: beer down the beer and the stepped in and took
Speaker 1: him away. Animal took away his life.
Speaker 11: It was like cruelty to animals what they did do
Speaker 11: it by the cruelty and they wanted to stay at
Speaker 11: the bar and pick up chicks exactly.
Speaker 1: And they had a cage on Joe to throw his poo.
Speaker 9: Well, you know when I was a King's on a
Speaker 9: guy I worked with gout eaten by the lions.
Speaker 1: There that's eaten by the lions, and then they got
Speaker 1: rid of it. That is you talk about Jurassic Park,
Speaker 1: You know the same everything Jurassic Park failed, the fences failed,
Speaker 1: things like.
Speaker 9: That that happened at Jungle Safari all the time.
Speaker 1: We got to run segment. Thank you, Willie Peter Bronson. Oh,
Speaker 1: what's the website chilidogpress dot com. Joe, you're unemployed. Good luck,
Speaker 1: Try to get possession on your phone. It's very lonely
Speaker 1: right now, very lonely. Lonely man on seven hundred W
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