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<v Speaker 1>Bill cunning in the Great America. Welcome this Thursday afternoon

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<v Speaker 1>at the tri State. Of course, the Bengals tee it

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<v Speaker 1>up on Sunday. Normally the Browns game is big. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's sold out, so if they win that game,

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<v Speaker 1>they have a two and a half percent chance of

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<v Speaker 1>getting in the playoffs. No more by the close of

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<v Speaker 1>business on Sunday, but until then, Julie Gunlock with the

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<v Speaker 1>Independent Women's Form IWF dot org. I think they have

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<v Speaker 1>a new memor. Riley Gaines has joined, which is fabulous

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<v Speaker 1>and I've contacted her. But one of the great leaders

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<v Speaker 1>of the Independent Women's Forum is Julie Gunlock. And Julie

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<v Speaker 1>welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show this Thursday afternoon.

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<v Speaker 1>But most importantly, I would have to say that I

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<v Speaker 1>wake up every day with a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 1>smile on my face because of what happened November. The

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<v Speaker 1>fifth electoral colleges have now met. Life is good. Are

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<v Speaker 1>we starting to see a turn when it comes to DEI,

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<v Speaker 1>when it becomes the president appointing a firing people based

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<v Speaker 1>upon race or gender. Are we making a slight turn

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<v Speaker 1>toward the light or are we still in darkness?

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<v Speaker 2>I think we are, I really do. I think people

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<v Speaker 2>are tired of the race fading. I think people are

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<v Speaker 2>tired of the race hostility. I think people are feeling

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<v Speaker 2>very patriotic these last couple of weeks and very positive

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<v Speaker 2>and very excited for this new administration. I definitely sent

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<v Speaker 2>a change, a shift, a desire to move on and

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<v Speaker 2>to get on with it. So I you know, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>very hopeful. I think twenty twenty five is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a great year. I think the era of the

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<v Speaker 2>second Trump administration is going to be very exciting, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel it.

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<v Speaker 3>Look.

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<v Speaker 2>I live in Washington, DC. I was here for the

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<v Speaker 2>first Trump administration where liberals were losing their minds and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we're just so despondent and we're panicking and

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<v Speaker 2>we're really trying. I mean from the even before he

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<v Speaker 2>was sworn in, they had created the sildossier. They were,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, pursuing this Russia collusion hopes. They were already

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<v Speaker 2>know it was famously on the view they said we

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<v Speaker 2>are going to impeach him even before he was sworn in.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you know, you actually have Democrats Recently, just this

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<v Speaker 2>past weekend, we had the Army Navy Game and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's this picture of Wes Moore, Maryland governor as liberal

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<v Speaker 2>as they come. Uh, Donald Trump's hand smiling, grinning ear

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<v Speaker 2>to ear. So I really do think things have changed.

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<v Speaker 2>I think people are desperate to get into the Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 2>He's obviously considering even appointing some Democrats obviously like RFK,

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<v Speaker 2>but there are others and lower level positions that Trump

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<v Speaker 2>is considering, and these Democrats are eager to get these positions.

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<v Speaker 2>So things have definitely changed.

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<v Speaker 1>We always like to complain and talk radio. Sometimes it's

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<v Speaker 1>good to pass around the flowers. One thing that happened

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<v Speaker 1>a few days ago Senator Josh Holly and Senator John

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<v Speaker 1>Kennedy my favorite two senators that we're going after. President

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<v Speaker 1>Baker of the NAA, I'm sorry the ncublea nc DOUBLEA

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<v Speaker 1>claims that boys can dress and shower and have facilities

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<v Speaker 1>to the girls. These are adults, These are eighteen, nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two year olds, and that he kept defending the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that, after all, we have to comply with Title

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<v Speaker 1>nine to make sure that depending upon your section of

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<v Speaker 1>equal access, and the point was made. There were five

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<v Speaker 1>or six teams of volleyball female players from fifty to

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<v Speaker 1>sixty women who refuse to play against a man who

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<v Speaker 1>in tournament action. And although volleyball is not the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>sport in the world, but to those girls it is.

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<v Speaker 1>They have the right under federal law to adequately participate

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<v Speaker 1>in separate but equal facilities. And the President NC DOUBLEA

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<v Speaker 1>said no, they don't. And to watch Holly and Kennedy

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<v Speaker 1>go after this former Republican who's a liberal governor of

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<v Speaker 1>Massachusetts was good, but he refused to say that girls

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<v Speaker 1>are for girls and women or for women. Explain that

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<v Speaker 1>to the American people.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there's no explaining it. He's absolutely insane. It's psychopathic

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<v Speaker 2>behavior to suggest that women to be put in these

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<v Speaker 2>kinds of situations. Let's not forget Peyton McNabb. She is

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<v Speaker 2>a fellow with the Independent Women's Forum. In college, she

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<v Speaker 2>was hit in the face. She's a volleyball player, she's

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<v Speaker 2>a champion volleyball player. She was playing opposite a team

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<v Speaker 2>that had a biological male on their team, pretending to.

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<v Speaker 4>Be a woman.

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<v Speaker 2>He spiked that ball, he kicked her in the face.

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<v Speaker 2>She went down and now has permanent brain damage because

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<v Speaker 2>that She talks about it at the Independent Women's forum.

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<v Speaker 2>There is an incredible video about her called kill Shot,

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<v Speaker 2>part of iws' Storytelling pet project. Again, it's called kill Shots.

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<v Speaker 2>How Peyton McNabb turned tragedy into triumph And she certainly has.

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<v Speaker 2>And one of the ways that she's done this this

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<v Speaker 2>horrifying experience of playing on her women's volleyball team in college,

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<v Speaker 2>being spiked in the face by a male on the

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<v Speaker 2>opposite team, again having permanent disabilities because of it. She

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<v Speaker 2>is now speaking out. She's talking about the great risks

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<v Speaker 2>that women's face in volleyball, but in other sports too.

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<v Speaker 2>We've seen this in women's lacrosse, just a couple like

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<v Speaker 2>last year, there was a women's lacrosse team playing against

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<v Speaker 2>another team. There was a biological male. He hit that ball.

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<v Speaker 2>It hit a girl in the face.

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<v Speaker 3>She lost teeth.

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<v Speaker 2>The whaling, the whaling that came from that young girl

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<v Speaker 2>as she was struck in the face by that puck.

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<v Speaker 2>It was horrifying. And again, women in all sorts of

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<v Speaker 2>sports are facing the stickturb And at that hearing that

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<v Speaker 2>you mentioned said, Ah, it's not a big deal, ten girl,

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a big deal. It is such a disgusting

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<v Speaker 2>and despicable thing. To ignore the real risks. Martina Navratilova

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<v Speaker 2>and other professional sports figures have gotten up and said

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<v Speaker 2>this is a legitimate Hey, and these are liberal women.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you think about about some of the other

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<v Speaker 2>people in this.

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<v Speaker 5>We have a.

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<v Speaker 2>Coalition, for goodness sake, we are in a coalition with

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<v Speaker 2>Wolf that is Women's Liberation Front. Okay, they are hardly conservative.

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<v Speaker 2>They are as about as radical a feminists as they come,

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<v Speaker 2>who are in coalitions with the end of the pro

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the the pro male, frankly independent Women's Forum.

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<v Speaker 2>And we all agree that this is a danger to women. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>it is despicable. It is misogyny. It is ignoring the

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<v Speaker 2>true risks that women are taking by performing in on

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<v Speaker 2>sports teams and having to face biological math. Not to

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<v Speaker 2>mention just how outrageous it is that biological males are

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<v Speaker 2>taking our trophies, our metals are placed on podiums, our scholarships. Again,

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<v Speaker 2>it is the women's rights issue.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Iws IS is on the right side of this, and

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<v Speaker 2>so these congressmen and senators to get up there and

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<v Speaker 2>pretend this isn't a big deal.

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<v Speaker 5>It's shameful.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I live in a functional part of our

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<v Speaker 1>great country, Ohio, Kentucky, Indiana. You live in a dysfunctional one.

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<v Speaker 1>Virginia has its moments in Washington, d C. But I

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<v Speaker 1>can't imagine the sixty percent of women and girls who

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<v Speaker 1>live in California, who live in Illinois, Massachusetts, New York State,

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<v Speaker 1>who live in the state of denial. Shall we say

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<v Speaker 1>that must allow high school boys to enter their private

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<v Speaker 1>spaces and must allow men to play women's sports. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking, what world do we live in? When I

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<v Speaker 1>was in high school, we had a classmate of mine

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<v Speaker 1>them undress, and he was finally suspended and sadly went

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<v Speaker 1>to Vietnam and didn't make it. But nonetheless, I can't

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<v Speaker 1>imagine that the more than half of the women and

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<v Speaker 1>girls who live in blue cities and blue states. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have that experience because I understand it. You're in California, Oregon, Washington, Massachusetts, Illinois,

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<v Speaker 1>a woman or a girl has no rights to private spaces.

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<v Speaker 1>And may God help you if you object.

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<v Speaker 2>Well listen. And also where are the rape survivor and

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<v Speaker 2>violence against against women activists right that were used to

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<v Speaker 2>be pretty prevalent, used to be pretty prominent. Now they're

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<v Speaker 2>utterly serious as silence on this, they've disappeared. Why are

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<v Speaker 2>we supposed to pretend that these women who have who

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<v Speaker 2>have sexual assault and rape, have experienced that aren't supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be nervous and uncomfortable with a biological male, intact male,

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<v Speaker 2>some are intact, some are not intact, But these are

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<v Speaker 2>biological males. Why are we supposed to present those women

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<v Speaker 2>are not going to feel uncomfortable, not and you don't

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<v Speaker 2>even have to be a victim of sexual assault and

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<v Speaker 2>rape to feel uncomfortable. I don't want to undress in

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<v Speaker 2>front of a biological male. I don't want I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have daughters, but if I did have a daughter, I wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want my son to have to undress in

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<v Speaker 2>front of a female who is pretending to be a male.

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<v Speaker 2>The world has gone absolutely bananas. It has gone bananas.

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<v Speaker 2>And again, it really sickens me that these groups that

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<v Speaker 2>ostensibly were there to stick up for the victims of

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<v Speaker 2>sexual assault and rape have suddenly gone silent. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>these are groups that spent you know, weeks harassing Kavanaugh

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<v Speaker 2>for an allegation that had absolutely no evidence whatsoever and

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<v Speaker 2>was absolutely absurd. And then when these real things are happening,

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<v Speaker 2>like men showing up, biological men showing up and intimidating

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<v Speaker 2>and scaring biological females in their private spaces, they are

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<v Speaker 2>suddenly on vacation again. It's despicable, it's disgusting. Women really

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<v Speaker 2>are have been left by other women's advocates, but thank

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<v Speaker 2>god there are groups like Independent Women's Form and we're

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<v Speaker 2>not alone. There's a lot of other really great women's organizations,

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<v Speaker 2>mostly on the right, and you, mostly conservative, that are

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<v Speaker 2>are fighting back on this issue.

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<v Speaker 1>You have boys. I'm looking at an op ed you

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<v Speaker 1>wrote to Mom's Guide to Parenting trans questioning kids. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>watching some of this stuff on YouTube about congressional hearings

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<v Speaker 1>about puberty blockers and our hormonal therapies and gender transitioning

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<v Speaker 1>that now Great Britain and Scandinavian countries are about twenty

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<v Speaker 1>years ahead or behind us, and they're saying, look, we're

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<v Speaker 1>not doing this anymore because there's no evidence whatsoever. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is the Great Britain Health Service in Scandinavian country,

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<v Speaker 1>we've gone through this. There's no evidence of improving mental

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<v Speaker 1>health whatsoever. And to say to a fourteen year old girl,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna let you have a double mass sectomy and

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<v Speaker 1>a hysterectomy order a boy, We're gonna cut off your

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<v Speaker 1>testicles and get rid of your penis at the age

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<v Speaker 1>of fifteen or sixteen because you think you're living in

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<v Speaker 1>some other sex. Other countries have done this and said

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<v Speaker 1>this is ridiculous. So looking at your op ed at

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<v Speaker 1>IWF dot org, a Mom's guide to parenting trans questioning

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<v Speaker 1>kids they get from a TikTok from their social social

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<v Speaker 1>media sites, all this information about you're in the wrong body.

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<v Speaker 1>And I watch this testimony from this girl who said

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<v Speaker 1>even though I'm a boy, I have a girl's brain.

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<v Speaker 1>Or a girl says I'm fourteen, I'm a girl, but

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<v Speaker 1>my I got a boy's brain and I want to

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<v Speaker 1>be a boy. And so what do you do if

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<v Speaker 1>you're if you're a mom and here comes you're a

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen year old girl who says, you know, Mom, I

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<v Speaker 1>got a boy's brain and I want to have my

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<v Speaker 1>breast cut off. Can you help mothers in the tri

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<v Speaker 1>State and mothers throughout the world understand what they have

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<v Speaker 1>to do?

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, moms are going to be presented with this idea.

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<v Speaker 2>This is from the medical community, psychology community, and the

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<v Speaker 2>entire teaching community. They're going to be told you have

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<v Speaker 2>affirming care. These sound nice, right, Affirm them, reassure them,

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<v Speaker 2>It is so wrong. As parents Your job is to

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<v Speaker 2>this phrase gender affirming care. Do not affirm your child

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<v Speaker 2>there's always this appeal to authority. Well, what do you know,

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<v Speaker 2>You're just a parent. I'm a doctor, I'm a psychiatrist,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a psychotgist. I'm a teacher. I know this, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the expert. Ignore this. This credential class stuff is dangerous.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and people need to be aware of happy in

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<v Speaker 2>throw those parents in jail. It is again, I'm telling you,

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<v Speaker 2>have to rest again again. In nine out of ten cases,

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<v Speaker 2>to have very healthy lives. These puberty blockers are not reversible. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>hormones are not reversible. We deal with children who are

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<v Speaker 2>extremely dangerous to give cross hormones to these very young children.

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<v Speaker 2>And frankly, the medical community is lying to you. They

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<v Speaker 3>Resist it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the thing you can do for your Kidju only gunlock.

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<v Speaker 1>Merry Christmas, Happy New Year. But say to a fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>can't smoke a cigarette, but guess what you could have

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<v Speaker 1>It is sick. You say demonic, and I'll second that emotion.

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<v Speaker 1>Julie Gunlock, good luck with you and your boys. IWF

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<v Speaker 1>dot org is where to go, lots of resources. And

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<v Speaker 1>once again, Merry Christmas, and Julie Gunlock, thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. And Julie, you're a

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<v Speaker 2>Merry Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Erry Christmas. Let's continue with more. This is sick,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know how we got here. It's because

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<v Speaker 1>keep raising money and they need new causes, and don't

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<v Speaker 1>let your children be the experimental reason for them to

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<v Speaker 1>make a lot of money. Let's continue with more. Bill Cunningham,

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<v Speaker 1>News Radio seven hundred WW Bill Cunningham, the Great American

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<v Speaker 1>Optimism is high through the roof, out the sky because

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<v Speaker 1>it appears normal Americans are now in charge of the

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<v Speaker 1>executive branch of the federal government, and Elon Musk and

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<v Speaker 1>my friend Vivek Ramaswamp are leading the Department of Government

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<v Speaker 1>Efficiencies called Dodge Doge Dodge whatever it might be, which

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<v Speaker 1>course I believe in those things most normal Americans do.

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<v Speaker 1>This is about the eighteenth time new administrations have said

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<v Speaker 1>to the Johnson administration where the federal government come in

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to cut spending, and Bill Clinton said it,

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<v Speaker 1>forty three grossly expanded the federal government. Same thing happened,

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<v Speaker 1>of course under Obama. Then under the first Trump term,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't continue on this path. Tim Chapman is with

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<v Speaker 1>Advancing American Freedom. He's the president of AAF and Tim Chapman, welcome,

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<v Speaker 1>I think for the first time to the Bill Cunningham Show.

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<v Speaker 1>And Tim, why should we be optimistic this time when

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<v Speaker 1>we've heard this repeatedly from Republicans and Democrats, We're going

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<v Speaker 6>Hey, well, thanks for having me, Bill, And what a

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<v Speaker 6>great question. I mean, we've all been through the ringer

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<v Speaker 6>that just weren't able to get it done for one

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<v Speaker 6>reason for another. But you know, I do think this

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<v Speaker 3>I think one of the things that I'm.

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<v Speaker 6>Hopeful about is with this DOGE Commission, you know, is

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<v Speaker 3>I think in some ways, non.

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<v Speaker 6>Traditional characters like Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswami and others

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<v Speaker 6>spending cuts that just hasn't been there in decades past.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, as you point out, absolutely there have been

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<v Speaker 6>But you know, we just weren't able to get it

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<v Speaker 3>And my hope for the Doge is.

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<v Speaker 6>That because he is engaged, and because others are engaged,

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<v Speaker 3>For Republicans not to deliver on this promise.

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<v Speaker 1>Well between jd. Vance also from Cincinnati, Vivek Ramaswami from Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 1>the keeing Jeffries the other day, the leader of the

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<v Speaker 1>want to dodge the issues intead of DOGE. If I

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<v Speaker 1>That's about an interest on the national that's about seventy

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<v Speaker 6>Well, thank you so much for pointing that out. Look,

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<v Speaker 3>Then we're in trouble.

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<v Speaker 6>If all it is is in an effort to cut

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<v Speaker 6>unilaterally take action in different agencies. That's fine, Okay, that's great.

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<v Speaker 3>have to follow the dose has.

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<v Speaker 6>To follow that with a commitment to real reforms, and

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<v Speaker 6>so the Congress has to enact things like that. If

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<v Speaker 6>you want to do this, you got to repeal the

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<v Speaker 6>Democrat's Green New Deal legislation otherwise known as the IRA.

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<v Speaker 3>Explain that.

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<v Speaker 1>Explain the amount of money involved on this Green New

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<v Speaker 1>Deal folly. Explain how much money it was originally predicted

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<v Speaker 1>to be about four hundred billion, turned out to be

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<v Speaker 1>over a trillion. Explain that to Tony Bender, my producer,

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<v Speaker 1>so even he can understand it.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, look, I mean, I think Tony can get this.

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<v Speaker 6>The Democrats and CBO promised that this would be a

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<v Speaker 6>four hundred and thirty billion dollar bill over ten years. Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>that's what they said that this was going to be.

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<v Speaker 6>And as ever, with these kinds of programs, it ended

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<v Speaker 6>up costs. It's now projected to cost over a trillion. Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>So and what are we doing with this? Look down

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<v Speaker 6>drilled down into the IRA. They said that they were

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<v Speaker 6>going to appropriate seven point five billion dollars to build

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<v Speaker 6>EV charging stations, which they appropriated, and yet we only

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<v Speaker 6>have twenty of them built to date. Okay, so how

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<v Speaker 6>many times it's twenty? You go into seven point five

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<v Speaker 6>billion dollars? All right, how much are we paying for

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<v Speaker 6>an EV charging station? I mean, this is the biggest boondoggle.

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<v Speaker 3>In modern times. And so if the dose wants to

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<v Speaker 3>be effective, the dose go ahead. Let's go cut all.

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<v Speaker 6>That you know, discretionary spending and do it from from

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<v Speaker 6>the executive branch. But then you better get Congress engaged.

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<v Speaker 6>And Congress has to repeal, repeal the Green New Deal

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<v Speaker 6>legislation and then get busy on mandatory spending.

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<v Speaker 1>Including the Biden student lung cancelation cost about a trillion dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Planned parenthood, killing healthy unborn babies is five hundred million.

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<v Speaker 1>Bad radio called public radio. I have to pay my

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<v Speaker 1>tax dollars to a competitor that's a left wing extreme

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<v Speaker 1>group called PBS. Got to do that. And another another

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<v Speaker 1>thing is about ten to fifteen percent of retired folks

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<v Speaker 1>don't need the money at all. How about means testing

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<v Speaker 1>social Security? If I have multi millionaire friends like Tony

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<v Speaker 1>Bender and others who don't need Social Security, but they

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<v Speaker 1>collect it anyway because the checks and the mail how

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<v Speaker 1>about advancing the age beginning if you're twenty five or

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<v Speaker 1>thirty years old, it goes up to seventy two or

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<v Speaker 1>seventy is easy things to do that don't affect the

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<v Speaker 1>folks that are retired that need the money, but about

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<v Speaker 1>ten to twenty percent of us don't need it, and

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<v Speaker 1>we get it. How about those ideas? How about cutting

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<v Speaker 1>Social Security to those who don't need it at all?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you.

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<v Speaker 6>That is absolutely correct. And look, this is let's be

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<v Speaker 6>honest about this, and you're being honest about it. But

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<v Speaker 6>you know, this is a weakness that we have in

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<v Speaker 6>the Trump administration, and as you pointed out, they made

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<v Speaker 6>a very strong commitment not to touch any of these

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<v Speaker 6>of these entitlement programs. And look, it's not about cutting entitlements,

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<v Speaker 6>it's about saving entitlements for the next generation. Right, They're

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<v Speaker 6>not going to be there if not the next generation.

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<v Speaker 6>So you got to find a way to make these

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<v Speaker 6>kinds of no brain, common sense reforms like you just referenced,

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<v Speaker 6>and be real with the American people. One of the

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<v Speaker 6>reasons that Donald Trump got elected is because he is

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<v Speaker 6>a far more authentic and straight shooting candidate than the

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<v Speaker 6>person that he was running against. That needs to also

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<v Speaker 6>apply to our federal budget, and that needs to apply

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<v Speaker 6>to our entitlement programs. He's got the capacity to do it.

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<v Speaker 6>He's got the capacity to level with the American people.

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<v Speaker 6>We really need him to do it well.

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<v Speaker 1>I also see out of Washington, eighty percent of federal

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<v Speaker 1>employees beginning in twenty nineteen do not come to work,

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<v Speaker 1>which has collapsed all the businesses around these federal buildings.

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<v Speaker 1>To get rid of the Department of Agriculture, to get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of the Department of Education, and block grant to

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<v Speaker 1>the states to money saving all that, give them a

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<v Speaker 1>two year golden parachute. To get the all out of Dodge.

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<v Speaker 1>You could cut at least half of the federal government

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<v Speaker 1>and all the programs. Give everybody a one or two

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<v Speaker 1>year golden parachute to go find out the work, then

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<v Speaker 1>sell the buildings and make billions of dollars. That's something.

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<v Speaker 1>And one thing my bugaboo, of course is the Defense Department,

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<v Speaker 1>which is Saker saying, I love American soldiers, but we

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<v Speaker 1>have something like eight hundred military bases and one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>different countries all over the world. We have a footprint

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<v Speaker 1>unrivaled on Earth, And there's nothing wrong with saying, do

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<v Speaker 1>we need two million men and women under arms in

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<v Speaker 1>seven hundred and fifty or eight hundred military bases all

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<v Speaker 1>over the world? Do we need thousands of generals and

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<v Speaker 1>admirals serving as so we say, consultants after they left office,

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<v Speaker 1>double dipping like crazy and the grunt. That's why I

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<v Speaker 1>like Pete Hegseth. He's a guy at the grunt level.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got two Bronze stars and served actually carried weapons

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<v Speaker 1>in combat. We need people that have that kind of

508
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<v Speaker 1>an attitude. Is there something wrong with maybe just holding

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<v Speaker 1>defense spending to where it is for the next five

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<v Speaker 1>years because the next war is going to be conducted

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<v Speaker 1>by ten thousand drones that are now flying all over

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<v Speaker 1>New Jersey, ten thousand drones instead of military men and

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<v Speaker 1>women in uniform. We need them, yes, But the next

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<v Speaker 1>we're building billion dollar nuclear powered submarines in which the

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<v Speaker 1>next war is going to be conducted by drones. How

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<v Speaker 1>about putting one hundred thousand drones up in the air

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<v Speaker 1>programmed to kill the enemy artillery pieces and tanks and armaments.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't need the army of the nineteen fifties today,

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<v Speaker 1>do you agree with.

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<v Speaker 3>That, I agree with very much part of it.

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<v Speaker 6>I want to find as many efficiencies within the Department

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<v Speaker 6>of Defense as possible. I want to end the woke

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<v Speaker 6>and the nonfense that inspected this Department of Defense. I

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<v Speaker 6>do have verious serious concerns.

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<v Speaker 1>About our global rivals.

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<v Speaker 3>In China and Russia and others.

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<v Speaker 6>And if there's any place that the federal government should

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<v Speaker 6>be spending money, and I'm okay with it, it's on

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<v Speaker 6>making sure that we have the most badass military on

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<v Speaker 6>the planet and that we can destroy our enemies.

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<v Speaker 3>And like I would, I think that this administration will

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<v Speaker 3>be committed to that.

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<v Speaker 6>But there are plenty of places in the Department of

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<v Speaker 6>Defense that have become so bloated and have become really lazy,

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<v Speaker 6>and that's because you've allowed it to become a massive,

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<v Speaker 6>massive bureaucracy. So I think, whoever the next Department of

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<v Speaker 6>Defense you know, head is, and if that's Pete Hey Seth,

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<v Speaker 6>he needs to get in there and he needs to

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<v Speaker 6>fix that.

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<v Speaker 3>As soon as possible. But I want to put pressure.

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<v Speaker 6>I want to put I want to put pressure on

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<v Speaker 6>our enemies, and I want to make sure by the way,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, one little little known fact that we don't

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<v Speaker 6>talk enough about is part of what makes America able

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<v Speaker 6>to be so successful in terms of global commerce and

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<v Speaker 6>be able to have such a large economy is our

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<v Speaker 6>ability to protect global global commerce lanes or our ability

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<v Speaker 6>to serve the safety UH of of and and our

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<v Speaker 6>and our primacy.

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<v Speaker 3>As as the globes leading nation.

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<v Speaker 6>So I want to keep all of that and make

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<v Speaker 6>sure that we are still lethal and able to UH

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<v Speaker 6>wage wage war if that, if it ever comes to that.

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<v Speaker 3>But you're one hundred percent right.

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<v Speaker 6>And what you said earlier on about you know, the

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<v Speaker 6>Department of Agriculture and the Department of Education. I mean absolutely,

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<v Speaker 6>And there's a benefit downstream to say we were to

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<v Speaker 6>close the Department of Education.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, the downstreat benefits of that.

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<v Speaker 6>As you said, if we're block granting that money to states,

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<v Speaker 6>you're going to get so much more efficiency with We're federalists, right.

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<v Speaker 6>We believe in in states and in local governments and

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<v Speaker 6>governments being as close to the people as possible, being

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<v Speaker 6>able to make the decisions with tax to payer dollars.

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<v Speaker 6>And you're going to get a much better product if

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<v Speaker 6>you're able to allow that kind of energy to happen

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<v Speaker 6>all across this country.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Tim Chapman of Advancing American Freedom. I'll believe

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<v Speaker 1>it when I see it. There's lots of backbone in

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<v Speaker 1>this one. It appears to be the case. If we

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<v Speaker 1>we can say five hundred billion dollars in federal domestic

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<v Speaker 1>spending by going back to twenty eighteen levels, not nineteen eighteen.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking twenty eighteen levels. Is five hundred billion dollars

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<v Speaker 1>plus all the empty federal buildings, plus all the federal employees.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll believe it when I see it. At a minimum,

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<v Speaker 1>we've off the madness. But the best they can.

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<v Speaker 3>Happen with me, you just got to keep your pressure up.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. But Tim Chapman, let's keep doing it because

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<v Speaker 1>I know they're well intended. But the road to hell

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<v Speaker 1>is paved with good intentions, and somehow this has to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can't get to where we need to be

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't touch the entitlements which the media jumps

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<v Speaker 1>on immediately. Tim Chapman, what is your group's website.

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<v Speaker 6>Of any it's Advancingamericanfreedom dot com. We appreciate, we appreciate

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<v Speaker 6>the support, and thanks for all you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Doing all right. God bless America and Tim Chapman, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you very much. Let's continue us more. I'll believe it

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<v Speaker 1>when I see it. Good intentions, that's great, elon, good guy,

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<v Speaker 1>vv JD, absolutely and all that stuff. But in reality,

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<v Speaker 1>it takes courage to tell your constituents some of the

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<v Speaker 1>goodies won't come your way. That takes courage, and maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>uh maybe Donald Trump has testicular fortitude. Allright, Bully Cunningham,

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<v Speaker 1>the Great America, and let's continue with more than about

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<v Speaker 1>an hour or so. Peter Bronson will be here. Spoke

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<v Speaker 1>out about the Northwest territories and more. I told the

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<v Speaker 1>Trumpster about the eight months ago that I will take

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<v Speaker 1>care of the Northwest territories. I'll be the right wing

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<v Speaker 1>on the Northwest territories. Also joining us later will be

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Dieters, who's Deaters Unplugged. In fact, Peter Bronson's writing

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<v Speaker 1>a book with Joe Dieters about prosecuous office. That kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff. Interesting. But until then, of course, I just

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<v Speaker 1>heard the news talk about city council wants to have

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<v Speaker 1>a sixty day waiting period. They want to study the

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<v Speaker 1>issue for sixty days about homelessness. And what they can do.

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<v Speaker 1>What they can't do is if it's a brand new toy,

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<v Speaker 1>they can't discover on Christmas morning how to operate it.

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<v Speaker 1>But a man that has all the answers is Kurt Hartman, attorney,

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<v Speaker 1>former judge, works with Chris Finney and so much more.

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<v Speaker 1>And Kurt Hartman, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham showed

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<v Speaker 1>and Kurt, first of all, when you see and hear

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<v Speaker 1>things from city council that they are going to study

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<v Speaker 1>this problem for the next two months, come up with solutions.

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<v Speaker 1>What do we do? How do we do it? The

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<v Speaker 1>four to seventy one Big mac Bridge is burned to

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<v Speaker 1>Dan Hills because of homelessness, and so does city council

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<v Speaker 1>need another two months to study the issue or is

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<v Speaker 1>there a court order ready to demand them to take action?

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<v Speaker 5>Does the City council need in another two months? Bill?

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<v Speaker 5>Absolutely not. You know, it's not like this it's some

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<v Speaker 5>problem that just suddenly arose. I mean, this has just

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<v Speaker 5>been plaguing the City of Cincinnati and do a part

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<v Speaker 5>part to the lack of leadership coming from the Mayor's

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<v Speaker 5>office and City Council. So it's nothing new. They've known

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<v Speaker 5>about it. This is just, Hey, we're just going to

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<v Speaker 5>do the status quo and just let things go and

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<v Speaker 5>keep going down the path to become the San Francisco

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<v Speaker 5>of the Midwest, if you will.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm holding this order. We spoke off the air to

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<v Speaker 1>say this is not a new problem. What would be

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<v Speaker 1>accurate because I'm holding an order signed by Hamley County

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<v Speaker 1>Common Police Court Judge Robert Rouhman about six and a

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<v Speaker 1>half years ago, entered August is sixteenth, twenty eighteen, acquiring

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<v Speaker 1>the city to do all kinds of stuff. Is this

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<v Speaker 1>judgment entry still in effect in the permanent injunction? Is

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<v Speaker 1>it still an effect?

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<v Speaker 5>It absolutely is an effect. If you look on the

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<v Speaker 5>probably the second to last page, it clearly says this

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<v Speaker 5>order shall be permanent and enforced by Cincinnati Police, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 5>So it is a permanent order, it's in place, and

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<v Speaker 5>the city is elect has elected I think under this

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<v Speaker 5>mayor to essentially ignore it basically snub their nose at

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<v Speaker 5>a state court order that is a final judgment. It

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<v Speaker 5>is an order that the City of Cincinnati actually agreed to.

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<v Speaker 5>So it wasn't like we went it went to a

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<v Speaker 5>trial and the judge kind of weighed the facts and

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<v Speaker 5>the evidence. The city agreed to.

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<v Speaker 1>This, why isn't it But why isn't it being impol

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<v Speaker 1>But normally, when you order to do something and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a permanent injunction and you ignore the order, bad things happen.

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<v Speaker 1>So why is that not happening now?

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<v Speaker 5>A good, excellent question, Uh don't have to answer. But

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<v Speaker 5>you know, looking to with with Chis Citty, we're assessing

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<v Speaker 5>probably maybe trying to get someone a citizen here in

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<v Speaker 5>Hamilton County to come in and say hey, because this

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<v Speaker 5>is a this case was brought in the name of

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<v Speaker 5>the State of Ohio. Wasn't an individual, It was the

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<v Speaker 5>state of Ohio saying, you know, tell any drug use,

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<v Speaker 5>et cetera is occurring on these encampments. And if you

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<v Speaker 5>remember back in twenty eighteen, you know that's when we

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<v Speaker 5>when we had these plethora of homelessness camps, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>on Third Street, people trying to go to you know,

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<v Speaker 5>Bengals games or whatnot, or Reds games, you know, having

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<v Speaker 5>to go through this stuff. It was San Francisco, the Midwest,

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<v Speaker 5>and you know, Joe Dieters, who at the time was

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<v Speaker 5>county prosecutor, had the authority under state law to basically

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<v Speaker 5>abate what's called this nuisance at the nuisance what was

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<v Speaker 5>going on, and Jode Roman agreed, the city agreed, All

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<v Speaker 5>three agreed, and so you know, we want to see

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<v Speaker 5>about going back into court. Have some citizens saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 5>we need to get this enforced. Uh, and go to

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<v Speaker 5>and address it with Judge Roman's successor, who at this

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<v Speaker 5>time would be Judge pat think a loocker.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you're a lawyer. I'm a lawyer. Of course, Finny

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<v Speaker 1>knows what he's doing. I talked to Attorney General David

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<v Speaker 1>Yosh yesterday. He's willing to intervene, but someone must ask

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<v Speaker 1>him to do it. And then the age asked the

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<v Speaker 1>great American who has standing to bring this? And I said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>Prosecutor's office could. How they're a party in the city

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<v Speaker 1>of Cincinnati. Now, the City of Cincinnati is not going

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<v Speaker 1>to request contempt of the City of Cincinnati, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>up to the Prosecutor's office. And when I make inroads there,

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<v Speaker 1>they tell me, well, you know, it'll be a Connie

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<v Speaker 1>Pillag problem in about two weeks. Explain how a private citizen,

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<v Speaker 1>someone living in and around Stanbury's Park in Mount Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>how could a private citizen arise even there if they're

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<v Speaker 1>not a party to this lawsuit and force the city

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<v Speaker 1>to do what they said they would do, which is

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<v Speaker 1>clean out homeless camps as soon as they developed. If

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<v Speaker 1>they must be cleaning immediately, why how could a citizen

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<v Speaker 1>jump into this lawsuit and say, I'll I'll charge the

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<v Speaker 1>city with contempt?

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<v Speaker 5>Right, It's simple. The state law that existed that Joe

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<v Speaker 5>Deaders brought this action on doesn't limit it to the

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<v Speaker 5>prosecutor bringing such an action. This state law specifically says

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<v Speaker 5>any person who is as citizen of the county in

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<v Speaker 5>which the nuisance exists may bring the action. So the

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<v Speaker 5>state law actually gives any person in Hamilton County the authority,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, to bring the similar lawsuit or in what

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<v Speaker 5>we're assessing is, since we have a final judgment already

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<v Speaker 5>on the boots signed by the judge, can that person

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<v Speaker 5>come in and say, I would have the right initially

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<v Speaker 5>to bring this suit. I want to join in and

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<v Speaker 5>enforce this order that the city agreed to.

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<v Speaker 1>Why haven't you done it already? Kurt Hartman? You and

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<v Speaker 1>how come you guys, you infinean? Why haven't you done

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<v Speaker 1>it already?

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<v Speaker 5>Well? Well, well, well, you know, look, got to assess

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<v Speaker 5>a few things because one of the you know, kind

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<v Speaker 5>of a ticker in this is UH. At the same time,

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<v Speaker 5>there was a parallel federal wallsuit going on UH and

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<v Speaker 5>UH just recently this past year the city settled that,

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<v Speaker 5>and trying to assess basically, you know, this federal state

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<v Speaker 5>tug of war, you know, does did what the city

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<v Speaker 5>agreed to in the federal lawsuit try to nullify what

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<v Speaker 5>Judge Rulmans signed off on with basically some which knows

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<v Speaker 5>at the state court. And so we may have some

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<v Speaker 5>serious constitutional issues in terms of federal supremacy where the

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<v Speaker 5>state your sovereignty, et cetera. So you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>and and the good litigator, I think you would agree

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<v Speaker 5>the good litigator kind of assesses those potential land mines

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<v Speaker 5>at the outset of a case, as opposed to oops,

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<v Speaker 5>I already tripped over a landmine. So that's part of

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<v Speaker 5>the issue we wanted assess. Is this new case, this

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<v Speaker 5>federal case, and what the city did there and were

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<v Speaker 5>they really trying to deliberately undermine disorder from this from

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<v Speaker 5>Judge Ruleman. Would I would not put anything, I would

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<v Speaker 5>not put anything past this. The city Council and the

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<v Speaker 5>city administration so very well could try to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>The new liberals on council may be recognizing they had

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<v Speaker 1>this order from Hamlety County common Polace Court created a

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<v Speaker 1>conflict of law situation. I remember them in law school,

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<v Speaker 1>conflict of law was a big issue by starting a

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<v Speaker 1>federal lawsuit to try to get the case out of

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<v Speaker 1>common place court in the federal court. And are the

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<v Speaker 1>two orders different in any significant extent?

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<v Speaker 5>Uh, there does seem to be, like I said, just

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<v Speaker 5>getting on that federal case. But it seems like the

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<v Speaker 5>federal court they agreed instead of immediately calling the police,

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<v Speaker 5>you got to call a social worker to come out

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<v Speaker 5>and try to negotiate or talk with people who are

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<v Speaker 5>using drugs in these homeless camps before you can charge

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<v Speaker 5>them with a trespass or anything. And so it seems

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<v Speaker 5>like the city was deliberately trying, you know. And the

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<v Speaker 5>one question is do they even apprize the federal judge

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<v Speaker 5>of this order that they were bound by under state law.

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<v Speaker 5>So and this this is a little bit more investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>And Kurt Hartman, this isn't a federal I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what the jurisdiction was uh, to go to a federal.

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<v Speaker 5>You'll love this. The claim was and it was brought

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<v Speaker 5>by the homeless coalist I believe in that that group

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<v Speaker 5>in Cincinnati against the city. Their whole claim was removing

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<v Speaker 5>people from homelessness or using drugs on property that they

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<v Speaker 5>don't own is cruel and unusual, perce well vinument.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, there was a US Supreme Court decision on that

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<v Speaker 1>about six months ago, and the Supremes decided it's a

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<v Speaker 1>local matter and that there are not constitutional slash federal issues. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>that came after the lawsuit in federal court. But the

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<v Speaker 1>interaction of the US Supreme Court decision and involved Portland, Oregon,

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<v Speaker 1>and there were some homeless Coalition camp operators in Portland,

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<v Speaker 1>Oregon that that said there are federal issues here, which

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<v Speaker 1>clearly they are not. And the Supreme Court sent it

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<v Speaker 1>back to Portland, Oregon claiming to do what you have

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<v Speaker 1>to do? How about getting that US Supreme Court decision

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<v Speaker 1>to overrule the federal court decision to implement this order

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<v Speaker 1>of judge Ruleman, does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 5>Willie? You clearly see the whole lay of the lay

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<v Speaker 5>and that's the issue. You know, the Supreme Court, Supreme

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<v Speaker 5>law and it is a local issue. It's a police power,

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<v Speaker 5>it's a health safety and welfare issue. And you know

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<v Speaker 5>from law school and practicing law, those are state and

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<v Speaker 5>local issues. Those are not federal issues.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, we live at a time now where the

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<v Speaker 1>US Supreme Court is telling the States under the ninth

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<v Speaker 1>and tenth Amendment, we're done expanding the ability and power

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<v Speaker 1>of federal courts over strictly local matters. And this is

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<v Speaker 1>a strictly local matter without federal issues. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>interact with the US Supreme Court decision on the consent

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<v Speaker 1>decree in the federal court case here, I think you're

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<v Speaker 1>on firm legal foot. And how about this? Can something

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<v Speaker 1>be done while Melissa Powers is still in office over

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<v Speaker 1>the next two weeks. I have a sense that Connie Pillach,

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<v Speaker 1>who's perceived to be a liberal, and I have no

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<v Speaker 1>idea if she is at some point I want to

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<v Speaker 1>meet with her. I have no idea if she is

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<v Speaker 1>or is not. But I would think the the Attorney

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<v Speaker 1>General told me that if someone will contact him, he

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<v Speaker 1>would seriously consider her intervening in the case. So when

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<v Speaker 1>the prosecutor's office changes, the AG will be a named party.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying, and therefore what you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 5>There, Yeah, yeah, I think I think right now, just

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<v Speaker 5>because the change of all the change, you know, a

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<v Speaker 5>personnel's occurring in about two weeks in our prosecutor's office,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, missing powers could proceed, you know, try to

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<v Speaker 5>hold a contempt, et cetera. But by the time that happens,

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<v Speaker 5>right new prosecutors in place, and would be a waste

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<v Speaker 5>of resources, you know, here here in December. But you

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<v Speaker 5>very easily can make a call to the Attorney General

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<v Speaker 5>Yost and say, hey, we've got this issue here in Cincinnati.

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<v Speaker 5>It's been brewing, the city's ignoring it. Mister Yost, mister

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<v Speaker 5>Attorney General, for the sake of the people of Hamilton

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<v Speaker 5>County and the city of Cincinnati, we need you to

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<v Speaker 5>come in and intervene in this case. And you all

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<v Speaker 5>see him coming in and intervening, I think would be

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<v Speaker 5>a lot more stronger, It would be a lot more

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<v Speaker 5>oomped to it, if you will, than a private citizen

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<v Speaker 5>doing it. We're looking at having a private citizen do it.

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<v Speaker 5>But if Dave Yost will do it, that I think

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<v Speaker 5>the court will take significant note of that issue.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Lastly, I'll say this to you, Kurt Hartman. I

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<v Speaker 1>will give you the private cell phone number of mister

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<v Speaker 1>Attorney General David Yost and before January rolls around, if

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<v Speaker 1>he can intervene, away we go. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>the approach to take, and then the people must be served.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give you the number off the air.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll give him a call.

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<v Speaker 1>I call. I'll call you after three o'clock today. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk further.

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<v Speaker 5>I understand, I understand. Yeah, that's got to be addressed.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, right now you've got city leadership just ignoring

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<v Speaker 5>the court order, and that's not acceptable.

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<v Speaker 1>Leslie.

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<v Speaker 5>What what do you expect when you elect nine progressives

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<v Speaker 5>you'll and a mayor? What do you expect them to do?

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<v Speaker 5>And like I said, they're trying to drive us to

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<v Speaker 5>the San Francisco of the Midwest.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what we have to do. We have to have

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<v Speaker 1>the mayor and share along comply with the law under contempt,

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<v Speaker 1>which couldn't involve fines or imprisonment if you refuse to

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<v Speaker 1>follow the law. Kurt Hartman, I'll be in touch with

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<v Speaker 1>you after three o'clock. I'm gonna call yous first make

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<v Speaker 1>sure I can give you his cell phone, and then

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<v Speaker 1>if that's okay with him, away we go perfect. Thank you, Bill,

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<v Speaker 1>God bless America. Let's continue. Bill Cunningham News Radio seven

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<v Speaker 1>hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 7>We all sing happy tunes, and when we all sing

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<v Speaker 7>happy tunes and sing Merry Christmas and wish each other

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<v Speaker 7>merry Christmas, these children are not going to have them

839
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<v Speaker 7>merry Christmas? How dare we speak merry Christmas? How dare we?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 6>Hello, quiet, and I'm just I'm broadcasting.

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<v Speaker 3>God.

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<v Speaker 7>We all sing happy tunes, and when we all sing

844
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<v Speaker 7>happy tunes and sing merry Christmas and wish each other

845
00:45:22.639 --> 00:45:23.559
<v Speaker 7>merry Christmas.

846
00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:24.079
<v Speaker 5>Shot up.

847
00:45:24.079 --> 00:45:26.039
<v Speaker 7>These children are not going to have them merry Christmas?

848
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<v Speaker 1>Shut up?

849
00:45:28.199 --> 00:45:31.599
<v Speaker 7>How dare we speak merry Christmas? How dare we?

850
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<v Speaker 8>She's not gonna have one. Hell, I'm gonna have one

851
00:45:35.159 --> 00:45:36.559
<v Speaker 8>in a sense, that's true.

852
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<v Speaker 1>Hit it, Darley Love, that's a good one right here.

853
00:45:40.239 --> 00:45:41.280
<v Speaker 1>I like Darley. Hit it.

854
00:45:41.719 --> 00:45:42.119
<v Speaker 5>Hit it.

855
00:45:46.360 --> 00:45:51.360
<v Speaker 1>The snow is coming down segment, I'm watching it fall segment.

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<v Speaker 1>Lots of people around seg. All I can say is

857
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<v Speaker 1>that she was the president. Oh, there'll be no more Christmas.

858
00:46:02.559 --> 00:46:05.039
<v Speaker 1>Your night, it's over. Tell the kids, I dare you

859
00:46:05.119 --> 00:46:07.480
<v Speaker 1>to enjoy Christmas. We'd be a mad at Gascar by

860
00:46:07.559 --> 00:46:09.880
<v Speaker 1>now reading this kmodo dragons. By the way, I'm told

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of money in the well.

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<v Speaker 5>If you thought I.

863
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<v Speaker 1>Bout me, still do it?

864
00:46:13.320 --> 00:46:18.880
<v Speaker 8>We could invest at the Trumpster maybe on Tuesday night fights.

865
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<v Speaker 1>Creating new dragons, breeding for a living, hit it, hold

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<v Speaker 1>on segment, hit it Darling, a lot of pretty lights

867
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<v Speaker 1>in the tree segment segment, give me some sports and

868
00:46:43.840 --> 00:46:45.719
<v Speaker 1>make it fast. I have Joe Deeers coming in at

869
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<v Speaker 1>Show of five and Peter Bronson, Man, this will be

870
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<v Speaker 1>a summit. What a what a hat trick of humanity?

871
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<v Speaker 1>I call at the conclave. I'll tell you what, Willie.

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<v Speaker 8>I don't know about you, but I saw today on

873
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<v Speaker 8>X and of course you gotta believe everything now because

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<v Speaker 8>of the big e.

875
00:47:02.519 --> 00:47:04.679
<v Speaker 1>He's a Speaker of the House. He's a Speaker of

876
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<v Speaker 1>the House. By the way, don't have to be in

877
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<v Speaker 1>the Congress to be a speaker. Okay. So on X

878
00:47:12.559 --> 00:47:15.679
<v Speaker 1>today they said that Kamala Harris of the book.

879
00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:19.719
<v Speaker 8>Companies are fighting each other for Kamala Harris.

880
00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:20.519
<v Speaker 1>In her book.

881
00:47:20.880 --> 00:47:25.920
<v Speaker 8>What twenty million dollars she can make off that book?

882
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<v Speaker 3>Down?

883
00:47:26.719 --> 00:47:30.079
<v Speaker 8>What who would Who would I want to know who

884
00:47:30.079 --> 00:47:30.960
<v Speaker 8>buys that book?

885
00:47:32.239 --> 00:47:34.519
<v Speaker 1>You want to read that story? No Christmas?

886
00:47:34.559 --> 00:47:36.599
<v Speaker 8>You want to you want to get you want to

887
00:47:36.599 --> 00:47:39.960
<v Speaker 8>get depressed? Read that story about that.

888
00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:42.079
<v Speaker 1>If you're in a good mood. Yeah, read that book.

889
00:47:42.159 --> 00:47:45.159
<v Speaker 1>Thank you. That'll send you in a depression like nothing.

890
00:47:45.320 --> 00:47:47.559
<v Speaker 1>So someone who's going to give her twenty million.

891
00:47:47.239 --> 00:47:49.400
<v Speaker 8>Dollars some book company. They said, that's like four or

892
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<v Speaker 8>five of them are up. And then she can make

893
00:47:51.920 --> 00:47:54.440
<v Speaker 8>so much about this and that. And then they said

894
00:47:54.480 --> 00:48:02.079
<v Speaker 8>she may run with Hillary the next election projectile vomiting

895
00:48:02.119 --> 00:48:05.199
<v Speaker 8>and exports that that would mean the chief of the

896
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<v Speaker 8>armed chiefs of staff would be the people in the

897
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<v Speaker 8>view that.

898
00:48:12.559 --> 00:48:17.360
<v Speaker 1>This is gene ausred. Oh no, oh my god, thank god,

899
00:48:17.400 --> 00:48:20.039
<v Speaker 1>have mess you on ourselves. Who would buy you the book?

900
00:48:20.199 --> 00:48:25.400
<v Speaker 8>I like to read about Kamala Harris's miss door stuffs?

901
00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:28.039
<v Speaker 1>What about all of What about Rudolph? What about my guy?

902
00:48:28.320 --> 00:48:31.079
<v Speaker 1>I know he's at the north Pole. So give me

903
00:48:31.119 --> 00:48:33.880
<v Speaker 1>some sports and listen to this music? Seig please continue?

904
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<v Speaker 1>Will he?

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<v Speaker 8>The world's greatest fried chicken. It's fucking good, ye in

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<v Speaker 8>the afternoon five one three, five seven four two two two.

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<v Speaker 1>Who brought it in? The Queen Donna brought it? Not

914
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<v Speaker 1>the Queen Mum, but the Queen correct like the Princess

915
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<v Speaker 1>am How busy are they on Christmas? There's no chickens

916
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<v Speaker 1>left in hide or Green Township. Well that's true. Will

917
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<v Speaker 1>you college basketball?

918
00:49:24.280 --> 00:49:26.599
<v Speaker 8>Last night it was number eleven you called out lasting

919
00:49:26.679 --> 00:49:29.440
<v Speaker 8>Xavier in overtime. Ex try to give it. They're all

920
00:49:29.480 --> 00:49:32.079
<v Speaker 8>but they ran out of gas and ot tough and

921
00:49:32.320 --> 00:49:35.679
<v Speaker 8>the Musketeers are eight and four. Now they face Marquette

922
00:49:36.159 --> 00:49:37.559
<v Speaker 8>Saturday at Sentas.

923
00:49:37.719 --> 00:49:40.400
<v Speaker 1>They're not the Warriors anymore, segment, they're the Golden Eagles.

924
00:49:40.559 --> 00:49:43.199
<v Speaker 8>NK you beating Detroit Mercy. The Norse have all of

925
00:49:43.239 --> 00:49:46.320
<v Speaker 8>a sudden caught caught faire. They've won four and oh

926
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<v Speaker 8>they're six and six and two and oh in the horizon.

927
00:49:48.760 --> 00:49:51.559
<v Speaker 1>Now we had Beechwood and Scott Teca coming in, but

928
00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:54.280
<v Speaker 1>had a little bit of illness in the family. Coach

929
00:49:54.360 --> 00:49:56.480
<v Speaker 1>had a had an illness in the family, Willy. So

930
00:49:56.519 --> 00:49:56.880
<v Speaker 1>we'll hit.

931
00:49:57.000 --> 00:50:00.599
<v Speaker 8>We'll hit Beechwood Tigers and honor them after the first

932
00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:01.199
<v Speaker 8>of the year in.

933
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<v Speaker 1>Need Honor segment Beachwood and Aids Honor.

934
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<v Speaker 8>Bearcats Flyers Tomorrow night, Heritage Bank Center, Battle of Top

935
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<v Speaker 8>twenty five.

936
00:50:09.639 --> 00:50:11.639
<v Speaker 1>I'll take Dayton and I'll give you you see you

937
00:50:11.679 --> 00:50:14.760
<v Speaker 1>want it? Okay hot Foot Sunday segment More.

938
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<v Speaker 8>To night on the West Villers Show Live at the

939
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<v Speaker 8>Ridge of Montgomery Inn, presented by Tom Gregory eight oh

940
00:50:20.159 --> 00:50:22.000
<v Speaker 8>five right here on seven hundred.

941
00:50:21.679 --> 00:50:26.199
<v Speaker 1>WLW Dean Gregory. They have lunch until win. I think

942
00:50:26.239 --> 00:50:29.920
<v Speaker 1>Tomorris tomorrow's the twentieth. Are you getting there for lunch tomorrow?

943
00:50:29.960 --> 00:50:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Have you got to do the show from down there

944
00:50:31.360 --> 00:50:32.920
<v Speaker 1>and have lunch? Get some ribs.

945
00:50:33.480 --> 00:50:36.119
<v Speaker 8>Bengals update brought to you by Good Spirits, Winding Tobacco

946
00:50:36.159 --> 00:50:40.159
<v Speaker 8>and Party Town Your Tailgate Headquarters, thirteen convenient locations in

947
00:50:40.239 --> 00:50:43.159
<v Speaker 8>Northern Kentucky. Browns and Bengals in Part two of the

948
00:50:43.199 --> 00:50:46.320
<v Speaker 8>Battle of Ohio. Of course, the Bengals won in Cleveland

949
00:50:46.320 --> 00:50:50.880
<v Speaker 8>in week seven Easy Preview the game tonight, Cincinnati Tax Resolution,

950
00:50:51.039 --> 00:50:55.199
<v Speaker 8>Power by Tove Sheldon, Roundtable Show, Lance and Rocky Live

951
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<v Speaker 8>from Long Neck and Wilders six oh five Now second

952
00:50:57.960 --> 00:50:58.880
<v Speaker 8>here on seven hundred.

953
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<v Speaker 1>WLW loses tonight and the Bengals beat them next Sunday. Here,

954
00:51:06.119 --> 00:51:09.159
<v Speaker 1>then we got action. We got live action because then

955
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<v Speaker 1>if the Bengals went in Pittsburgh that next Sunday and

956
00:51:12.719 --> 00:51:17.840
<v Speaker 1>Denver loses to Kansas City Bengals, Bengals are in the playoffs.

957
00:51:18.159 --> 00:51:22.480
<v Speaker 8>Broncos and Chargers Tonight, seven thirty, Fox Sports thirteen sixty.

958
00:51:22.519 --> 00:51:29.719
<v Speaker 1>And how about this, the National Football League hold on

959
00:51:29.719 --> 00:51:34.079
<v Speaker 1>home at the music Day. Okay, I'm sorry, good thing

960
00:51:34.119 --> 00:51:36.719
<v Speaker 1>Mary didn't have an abortion. That's all I gotta say.

961
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<v Speaker 1>Long pleasly. This is pretty dramatic stuff, sin and.

962
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<v Speaker 8>Airp Okay, so go ahead, the National Football leg I

963
00:51:47.559 --> 00:51:51.000
<v Speaker 8>got a text are from Glenn Scott Sloan would buy

964
00:51:51.199 --> 00:51:52.719
<v Speaker 8>Kamala's book right there.

965
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<v Speaker 1>I want to give the last name. But Glenn said,

966
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<v Speaker 1>Scott Sloane, No, you know what he do. He get

967
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<v Speaker 1>one for free. He went two of them free. Theom No,

968
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<v Speaker 1>he wouldn't. He didn't buy nothing. Cheapskate, you know, Scott

969
00:52:03.239 --> 00:52:05.519
<v Speaker 1>Sloan did not support Donald Trump? Are you aware of that?

970
00:52:06.559 --> 00:52:10.159
<v Speaker 1>What nice? Would he voted for? Didn't vote? Would he

971
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<v Speaker 1>vote for himself? Nobody? I voted for proudly.

972
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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, that's that's a great American, right there, Scott Sloane.

973
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<v Speaker 1>Anything, fall on your knees? Fall on your knees? Who oh?

974
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<v Speaker 9>No?

975
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<v Speaker 5>You ready?

976
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

977
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<v Speaker 8>The NFL is going to add a game show what

978
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<v Speaker 8>and a punting contest to its Pro Bowl Skills competition

979
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<v Speaker 8>in February?

980
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:48.280
<v Speaker 1>Say that again? The name show?

981
00:52:48.599 --> 00:52:52.639
<v Speaker 8>The National Football League is adding a game show and

982
00:52:52.679 --> 00:52:57.119
<v Speaker 8>a punting contest to its Pro Bowl Skills competition coming

983
00:52:57.199 --> 00:53:00.639
<v Speaker 8>up in February. This Pro Bowl thing has gone idiotic,

984
00:53:00.760 --> 00:53:04.440
<v Speaker 8>don't understand. The league announced a full list of challenges,

985
00:53:04.960 --> 00:53:08.079
<v Speaker 8>including a tug of war whereas nobody can get hurt?

986
00:53:08.159 --> 00:53:12.400
<v Speaker 8>A tug of war? Right, and dodgeball. What about these

987
00:53:12.400 --> 00:53:16.800
<v Speaker 8>guys the head any football? Well, they're going to have

988
00:53:16.840 --> 00:53:18.760
<v Speaker 8>a seven on seven flag.

989
00:53:18.440 --> 00:53:23.960
<v Speaker 1>Football including a yeah, a tugging contest, Yeah, tug of

990
00:53:24.039 --> 00:53:26.960
<v Speaker 1>war and dodgeball. Nobody's gonna get hurt in that, right?

991
00:53:27.559 --> 00:53:31.320
<v Speaker 1>What can go wrong? Well, look at Tyler Eifert every

992
00:53:31.400 --> 00:53:33.159
<v Speaker 1>time he went to the Pro Bowl, he got hurt.

993
00:53:33.599 --> 00:53:34.719
<v Speaker 1>Didn't go after that, did he?

994
00:53:35.119 --> 00:53:35.239
<v Speaker 9>Uh?

995
00:53:35.360 --> 00:53:39.639
<v Speaker 8>They knew this year as Helmet Harmony, it's going to

996
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<v Speaker 8>be a game show that will test players knowledge of

997
00:53:43.039 --> 00:53:47.719
<v Speaker 8>their teammates. Can't wait, that'll be well, boy, I tell

998
00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:50.360
<v Speaker 8>you that'll be a barn Burner. Wonder who wonder who's

999
00:53:50.360 --> 00:53:55.280
<v Speaker 8>hosting that Drew Carry, Chris Collinsworth or maybe uh uh

1000
00:53:55.920 --> 00:53:58.760
<v Speaker 8>what's his name? Brady on the on Let's make a

1001
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<v Speaker 8>deal plus plus a Wayne Brady plus a punt perfect

1002
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<v Speaker 8>that features one punter and one non punter. They're going

1003
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<v Speaker 8>to see how many balls they can kick into the

1004
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<v Speaker 8>into six buckets that are positioned in the end zone.

1005
00:54:17.159 --> 00:54:19.039
<v Speaker 1>NBA is going to change their stuff too. I mean,

1006
00:54:19.039 --> 00:54:22.360
<v Speaker 1>it's stupid, stupid. I mean, what is it really stupid?

1007
00:54:22.360 --> 00:54:24.280
<v Speaker 1>You've got to go to the circus and see this.

1008
00:54:24.280 --> 00:54:31.480
<v Speaker 1>This is stupid. It is stupid, stupid. Yeah, boy, you

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00:54:31.519 --> 00:54:31.760
<v Speaker 1>know what.

1010
00:54:31.800 --> 00:54:33.880
<v Speaker 8>I hope some Bengals go to this, But then I

1011
00:54:33.880 --> 00:54:36.360
<v Speaker 8>hope they don't participate because every time one of the

1012
00:54:36.400 --> 00:54:37.880
<v Speaker 8>Bengals go down there, they get hurt.

1013
00:54:38.679 --> 00:54:42.079
<v Speaker 1>Possibly the Super Bowl will be a week later and

1014
00:54:42.199 --> 00:54:45.480
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals will be involved in the Super Bowl. Wouldn't

1015
00:54:45.519 --> 00:54:46.159
<v Speaker 1>that be something.

1016
00:54:46.840 --> 00:54:49.239
<v Speaker 8>I'd be action right there segment, get me out of

1017
00:54:49.239 --> 00:54:52.480
<v Speaker 8>the Student's Report? Will you honor of a cold day

1018
00:54:52.519 --> 00:54:55.599
<v Speaker 8>here in the Tri States, colder than no weel diggers behind.

1019
00:54:55.760 --> 00:54:59.519
<v Speaker 1>We leave you with the immortal words of the Stooge Report.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey everyone, I'm Joe Biden's housman. By the way, He's

1021
00:55:05.000 --> 00:55:07.679
<v Speaker 1>a quiet quitting is what it's called. Why are they?

1022
00:55:07.480 --> 00:55:10.320
<v Speaker 8>Why are they blasting Trump on this government shutdown?

1023
00:55:10.320 --> 00:55:13.039
<v Speaker 1>Out to be checking out? What's his name? And he

1024
00:55:13.119 --> 00:55:16.599
<v Speaker 1>and jar King Jeffries or no big Jake Joe. Well

1025
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<v Speaker 1>he's in Delaware right now. It's called quiet quitting. We

1026
00:55:20.320 --> 00:55:23.960
<v Speaker 1>have a president quietly quitting great not involved in this

1027
00:55:24.039 --> 00:55:26.800
<v Speaker 1>immediate demand he get involved. Hell no, they don't know

1028
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<v Speaker 1>where the hell he is.

1029
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<v Speaker 8>They're worried about man Jony coming in and helicopters and planes.

1030
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<v Speaker 1>They have good spaghetti and meatballs, by the way, had

1031
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<v Speaker 1>some last night. Mangione's gotta go seven hundred WLW. They're ready.

1032
00:55:51.239 --> 00:55:55.119
<v Speaker 1>Peter Bronson his hair with his blockbuster new book Promised Land,

1033
00:55:55.559 --> 00:55:59.159
<v Speaker 1>Joe Dieters makeson and the parents also, since you're unemployed

1034
00:55:59.760 --> 00:56:02.840
<v Speaker 1>and Peter Bronson, you know this is the walk up

1035
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<v Speaker 1>music for Joseph T and T theaters. Get ready, Joe,

1036
00:56:06.159 --> 00:56:08.440
<v Speaker 1>you ready? This is what he does with the criminals

1037
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<v Speaker 1>of Hamlet the county. Now he's free. Hit its.

1038
00:56:16.840 --> 00:56:17.840
<v Speaker 3>Tell TV.

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<v Speaker 1>You need some walk up music, Peter, I'll have to

1040
00:56:26.920 --> 00:56:32.079
<v Speaker 1>think he's got history books. This will never change. He

1041
00:56:32.519 --> 00:56:34.239
<v Speaker 1>got women of the left, women of the right. Not

1042
00:56:34.320 --> 00:56:37.760
<v Speaker 1>so much anymore. Not anymore. You had your time like

1043
00:56:37.960 --> 00:56:40.519
<v Speaker 1>Rocky Boyman with the cheerleaders for the Colts. That's a

1044
00:56:40.559 --> 00:56:43.000
<v Speaker 1>different story. Don't bring that up here. It is hit

1045
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<v Speaker 1>the post, T N T. I'm dynamite. He's gonna win

1046
00:56:51.920 --> 00:56:55.239
<v Speaker 1>this fight. The only time he's lost to John Waxmunsky

1047
00:56:55.679 --> 00:56:58.079
<v Speaker 1>Springfield Township. That may come up again.

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<v Speaker 10>By the way, I know I'm because you asked me

1049
00:57:01.960 --> 00:57:06.239
<v Speaker 10>to m your thing and my invested sure, my last

1050
00:57:06.280 --> 00:57:10.639
<v Speaker 10>swearing in ceremony in my career, and I always have

1051
00:57:10.719 --> 00:57:13.559
<v Speaker 10>to weigh that against I you know you're my best friend.

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00:57:13.599 --> 00:57:16.679
<v Speaker 9>I have to weigh that against you. Bring up John

1053
00:57:16.719 --> 00:57:19.199
<v Speaker 9>wax Monsky for the one millionth time.

1054
00:57:19.239 --> 00:57:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Plus you switching the balls and number eleven Green and

1055
00:57:21.559 --> 00:57:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Mcentateble did that too, now, Peter Bronson, I certainly scheduled you.

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00:57:26.880 --> 00:57:30.239
<v Speaker 11>Well, I'm in August company here a radio legend and

1057
00:57:30.360 --> 00:57:34.519
<v Speaker 11>a former Supreme Court justice for unemployed, for this unemployed

1058
00:57:34.960 --> 00:57:36.480
<v Speaker 11>and maybe future author.

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00:57:36.519 --> 00:57:38.559
<v Speaker 1>We don't know, we'll see. And you're writing a book

1060
00:57:38.559 --> 00:57:42.280
<v Speaker 1>together right now, and this thing for me, what's it

1061
00:57:42.320 --> 00:57:44.960
<v Speaker 1>going to be? Peter Bronson writes, well, what's the book about?

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00:57:45.840 --> 00:57:48.960
<v Speaker 9>Well, as you know, I have prosecuted five serial killers

1063
00:57:49.760 --> 00:57:51.880
<v Speaker 9>and it's about big cases.

1064
00:57:51.920 --> 00:57:57.960
<v Speaker 1>And people will be interested in Donald Harven good stories. Yeah,

1065
00:57:58.920 --> 00:58:02.559
<v Speaker 1>Franklin again talking about him. Wigan's Dulcan. Well, I can't

1066
00:58:02.559 --> 00:58:04.559
<v Speaker 1>hear the case. It's in front of the highest Supreme

1067
00:58:04.599 --> 00:58:08.639
<v Speaker 1>Court right now. Well, the liberal judges in Almony County

1068
00:58:08.679 --> 00:58:11.719
<v Speaker 1>may free him soon. Well, they might.

1069
00:58:12.039 --> 00:58:14.119
<v Speaker 9>People get you know, they should pay attention to who

1070
00:58:14.159 --> 00:58:15.639
<v Speaker 9>they vote for, that's for sure.

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00:58:16.119 --> 00:58:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about Le's talk about Peter's book. Let's talk

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00:58:18.039 --> 00:58:20.280
<v Speaker 1>about Promise Land. I mean I get that with him.

1073
00:58:20.280 --> 00:58:23.199
<v Speaker 1>But said people will get to the Promised Land. Yes,

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00:58:23.320 --> 00:58:24.920
<v Speaker 1>one of the great things he said in Joe, I

1075
00:58:25.000 --> 00:58:30.039
<v Speaker 1>didn't know this, but there was a general in uh Cincinnati, yes,

1076
00:58:30.239 --> 00:58:34.440
<v Speaker 1>Lusantaville and Cincinnati who saved the city from the Confederates.

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00:58:34.480 --> 00:58:34.960
<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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00:58:35.119 --> 00:58:37.840
<v Speaker 11>Explain that to Joe. Hey, Lou Wallace was one of

1079
00:58:37.840 --> 00:58:41.079
<v Speaker 11>the greatest people. And you know in Indiana he's a

1080
00:58:41.079 --> 00:58:44.159
<v Speaker 11>folk hero. They know all about him. They're raised up

1081
00:58:44.159 --> 00:58:46.840
<v Speaker 11>through the grade schools. They learned about Lou Wallace in Cincinnati,

1082
00:58:46.880 --> 00:58:49.079
<v Speaker 11>the city he saved in the Civil War.

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00:58:49.320 --> 00:58:51.760
<v Speaker 1>We don't know anything about Lou Wallace, and he is

1084
00:58:51.800 --> 00:58:54.280
<v Speaker 1>an incredible guy. You know about Lou Wallace, I do

1085
00:58:54.360 --> 00:58:56.360
<v Speaker 1>have to read in Peter's book, tell me about Lou

1086
00:58:56.440 --> 00:59:00.400
<v Speaker 1>Wallace who saved the city from the terrible Democrat. And

1087
00:59:00.400 --> 00:59:02.719
<v Speaker 1>by the way, this is my favorite book. Peter wrote,

1088
00:59:03.119 --> 00:59:05.599
<v Speaker 1>It's fairly good, very really good. Explained how you guys

1089
00:59:05.960 --> 00:59:07.920
<v Speaker 1>saved it. Well, this guy's incredible.

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00:59:07.920 --> 00:59:11.039
<v Speaker 11>If you if you asked somebody, who's the guy who

1091
00:59:11.119 --> 00:59:14.199
<v Speaker 11>saved Cincinnati during the Civil War and probably saved the

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00:59:14.320 --> 00:59:18.320
<v Speaker 11>Union by rescuing us from attack of ten thousand Confederate

1093
00:59:18.440 --> 00:59:20.760
<v Speaker 11>warriors who were going to burn in sack the city.

1094
00:59:20.960 --> 00:59:23.559
<v Speaker 11>Who is the guy who captured Billy the kid, who

1095
00:59:23.639 --> 00:59:26.119
<v Speaker 11>was the guy who formed the first Black brigade during.

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00:59:25.960 --> 00:59:26.599
<v Speaker 1>The Civil War?

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<v Speaker 11>And who was the guy who wrote Ben hr It's

1098
00:59:29.679 --> 00:59:33.239
<v Speaker 11>all the same guy. What it's Lou Wallace wrote Ben Her?

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00:59:33.360 --> 00:59:40.280
<v Speaker 11>He wrote, saved the city. Yes, explain, explain this Cincinnati

1100
00:59:40.360 --> 00:59:43.960
<v Speaker 11>was under attack. General Heath came up from Lexington with

1101
00:59:44.079 --> 00:59:48.519
<v Speaker 11>ten thousand battle hearted and Confederate warriors. Yeah, they were

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00:59:48.559 --> 00:59:50.559
<v Speaker 11>ready to burn and loot the city. They had We

1103
00:59:50.639 --> 00:59:53.360
<v Speaker 11>had gold, we had supplies, we had everything you wanted.

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00:59:53.480 --> 00:59:53.679
<v Speaker 5>Yep.

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00:59:54.280 --> 00:59:54.880
<v Speaker 1>And if they had.

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00:59:57.199 --> 01:00:00.480
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, if they had taken Cincinnati, imagine they would have

1107
01:00:00.480 --> 01:00:03.639
<v Speaker 11>split the Union. The Union probably would have been forced

1108
01:00:03.679 --> 01:00:04.440
<v Speaker 11>to sue for peace.

1109
01:00:04.719 --> 01:00:06.519
<v Speaker 1>We would now we would have been two countries.

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01:00:07.320 --> 01:00:10.559
<v Speaker 11>But lou Wallace showed up just as the copperhead Southern

1111
01:00:10.599 --> 01:00:13.079
<v Speaker 11>sympathizer mayor was ready to wave the white flag.

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01:00:13.079 --> 01:00:14.880
<v Speaker 1>And so we had a mayor at that point like

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01:00:14.920 --> 01:00:17.280
<v Speaker 1>an Aftab Puer of bal Yes, it was a Buddhist

1114
01:00:17.679 --> 01:00:21.800
<v Speaker 1>and now we have Aftab Pierida. Was George Hatch. George Hatch, Yes,

1115
01:00:21.840 --> 01:00:24.760
<v Speaker 1>maybe the high maybe Hatch Street, Hat Street. Yes, George

1116
01:00:24.760 --> 01:00:27.079
<v Speaker 1>Hatch was was a we need.

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01:00:27.400 --> 01:00:30.280
<v Speaker 11>He was a Southern sympathizer. He really wanted the Confederates

1118
01:00:30.320 --> 01:00:32.920
<v Speaker 11>to win. He was needed to get a hold of Amazon,

1119
01:00:32.960 --> 01:00:34.920
<v Speaker 11>to get a backbone. This guy had no bat That's

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01:00:34.960 --> 01:00:35.280
<v Speaker 11>the guy.

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01:00:35.519 --> 01:00:37.679
<v Speaker 1>That guy said, Okay, I'm gonna I'm going to surrender

1122
01:00:37.760 --> 01:00:40.280
<v Speaker 1>the city to the Confederacy. Right, what year was it?

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01:00:40.280 --> 01:00:42.960
<v Speaker 1>Eighteen eighteen sixty two, sixty. In the beginning, things aren't

1124
01:00:42.960 --> 01:00:45.480
<v Speaker 1>looking good. Gettysburg hadn't happened yet. No, I think now

1125
01:00:45.480 --> 01:00:48.159
<v Speaker 1>we're going to win or lose. September eighth, eighteen sixty two.

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01:00:48.199 --> 01:00:50.960
<v Speaker 1>It's really right down. Write that down, Joe, September eighth,

1127
01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:53.159
<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty eighteen. Here's a critical day.

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<v Speaker 11>September eleventh, eighteen sixty two, was the day that lou

1129
01:00:57.360 --> 01:01:01.000
<v Speaker 11>Wallace won and the Confederates acted in and went back

1130
01:01:01.039 --> 01:01:04.960
<v Speaker 11>south to Lexington. September eleventh, Yes, nine to eleven, Pete

1131
01:01:05.000 --> 01:01:07.159
<v Speaker 11>Road sixty two, Pete Rose, rest in peace.

1132
01:01:07.199 --> 01:01:10.079
<v Speaker 1>So explain the story. Here's this wheat Need mayor, and

1133
01:01:10.079 --> 01:01:12.679
<v Speaker 1>he's ready to concede the city to the Confederacy, and

1134
01:01:12.719 --> 01:01:14.159
<v Speaker 1>a lot of sympathizers were here.

1135
01:01:14.199 --> 01:01:17.800
<v Speaker 11>Correct, Yes, what happened. Cincinnati had a lot of copperheads.

1136
01:01:17.880 --> 01:01:20.199
<v Speaker 11>But anyway, so still Wallace shows up and he said,

1137
01:01:20.239 --> 01:01:22.880
<v Speaker 11>put away the white flags. We're not surrendering. We're going

1138
01:01:22.960 --> 01:01:24.159
<v Speaker 11>to fight. And the mayor said, how are we going

1139
01:01:24.199 --> 01:01:25.960
<v Speaker 11>to fight? We don't have troops, we don't have a cannon.

1140
01:01:26.400 --> 01:01:30.199
<v Speaker 11>And he said, Cincinnati will defend itself. And he ordered

1141
01:01:30.239 --> 01:01:33.280
<v Speaker 11>every able bodied man to pick up a shovel, a pick,

1142
01:01:33.400 --> 01:01:36.760
<v Speaker 11>or a rifle and walk across the first bridge across

1143
01:01:36.760 --> 01:01:40.119
<v Speaker 11>the Ohio River that they made, pontoon bridge, Yes, a

1144
01:01:40.199 --> 01:01:42.440
<v Speaker 11>pontoon bridge that he made in three days.

1145
01:01:42.440 --> 01:01:43.280
<v Speaker 1>This all happened.

1146
01:01:43.559 --> 01:01:46.679
<v Speaker 11>Walk across and start building rifle pits and batteries. And

1147
01:01:46.719 --> 01:01:49.280
<v Speaker 11>when Heath got up here and he saw this defenses

1148
01:01:49.280 --> 01:01:50.480
<v Speaker 11>that lou Wallace had built.

1149
01:01:50.639 --> 01:01:54.800
<v Speaker 1>Really yeah, So Cincinnatians went into northern Kentuck I guess

1150
01:01:54.880 --> 01:01:58.519
<v Speaker 1>coming to Newport. Yes, and they built defensive positions. Yes,

1151
01:01:58.679 --> 01:02:01.320
<v Speaker 1>a whole string seven mile How about that, Joe, would

1152
01:02:01.320 --> 01:02:04.159
<v Speaker 1>you have done that? Of course I would have. Please continue.

1153
01:02:04.400 --> 01:02:07.920
<v Speaker 1>So in northern rob Sanders wasn't around yet, so so

1154
01:02:08.400 --> 01:02:11.400
<v Speaker 1>he gets there from the copperheads from Lexington and said, man, this,

1155
01:02:11.880 --> 01:02:14.360
<v Speaker 1>we don't want to fight these guys. Well, there's two

1156
01:02:14.440 --> 01:02:15.119
<v Speaker 1>versions of that.

1157
01:02:15.159 --> 01:02:17.280
<v Speaker 11>One is that he got recalled by his general and

1158
01:02:17.320 --> 01:02:20.639
<v Speaker 11>he still believed for years later that he would have won,

1159
01:02:20.760 --> 01:02:24.960
<v Speaker 11>he would have taken Cincinnati. But lou Wallace he had

1160
01:02:25.000 --> 01:02:26.760
<v Speaker 11>another version of the story, which is he built all

1161
01:02:26.800 --> 01:02:31.000
<v Speaker 11>these defenses and the Confederates get addled, as he put ever, scared.

1162
01:02:31.159 --> 01:02:35.480
<v Speaker 11>But he was hailed as the savior of Cincinnati, paraded

1163
01:02:35.519 --> 01:02:40.000
<v Speaker 11>through the streets, honored booze every chicken wings. Burnett House

1164
01:02:40.119 --> 01:02:43.239
<v Speaker 11>was the most famous hotel in the country.

1165
01:02:43.239 --> 01:02:45.960
<v Speaker 1>At Burnett House, Yeah, where was that up And it

1166
01:02:46.079 --> 01:02:48.880
<v Speaker 1>was right a Vine, third and Vine. Yeah, there's a

1167
01:02:48.880 --> 01:02:52.239
<v Speaker 1>parking lot there now, right now. And lou saved the city.

1168
01:02:52.400 --> 01:02:54.000
<v Speaker 1>What happened to the mayor? What happened to Hatch?

1169
01:02:54.360 --> 01:02:54.760
<v Speaker 5>Hatch?

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01:02:55.440 --> 01:02:58.519
<v Speaker 11>He was not well liked, but there were a lot

1171
01:02:58.599 --> 01:03:02.039
<v Speaker 11>of Confederate sympathy in Cincinnati. You gotta remember, this is

1172
01:03:02.039 --> 01:03:04.199
<v Speaker 11>a city that had been doing business with the South,

1173
01:03:04.360 --> 01:03:06.840
<v Speaker 11>making money, and they hated Lincoln. They almost killed him

1174
01:03:06.880 --> 01:03:08.760
<v Speaker 11>when he came through on his way to the Anaugia Rate.

1175
01:03:08.840 --> 01:03:10.960
<v Speaker 1>And I explained that because Lincoln went from Illinois to

1176
01:03:11.119 --> 01:03:13.039
<v Speaker 1>Washington and there was great fear he was going to

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01:03:13.039 --> 01:03:15.599
<v Speaker 1>be killed along the way. Yes, so he put on disguises.

1178
01:03:15.599 --> 01:03:17.679
<v Speaker 1>When you're six foot four with a stove top hat,

1179
01:03:17.920 --> 01:03:19.639
<v Speaker 1>kind of hard to put on disguise, Joe, and like

1180
01:03:19.679 --> 01:03:23.480
<v Speaker 1>a bear. To explain how Lincoln was almost killed in Cincinnati,

1181
01:03:23.639 --> 01:03:24.840
<v Speaker 1>you got you know your history.

1182
01:03:24.880 --> 01:03:26.599
<v Speaker 11>Because he did put on a disguise when he got

1183
01:03:26.599 --> 01:03:28.960
<v Speaker 11>to Baltimore, because there was there was a plot in

1184
01:03:29.039 --> 01:03:32.280
<v Speaker 11>Baltimore of people that were assassins that wanted to knife.

1185
01:03:32.559 --> 01:03:34.639
<v Speaker 1>How do you put on disguise if you're Abraham Lincoln.

1186
01:03:34.719 --> 01:03:37.000
<v Speaker 11>Well he put on a long coat, turned up the collar,

1187
01:03:37.360 --> 01:03:39.880
<v Speaker 11>but then they crowd spotted him and he had to run.

1188
01:03:40.760 --> 01:03:44.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's what happened in Cincinnati, and they see your face.

1189
01:03:44.360 --> 01:03:46.079
<v Speaker 1>When I show up, I put my collar up and

1190
01:03:46.119 --> 01:03:49.480
<v Speaker 1>the ladies go nuts. Yeah, I bet they do. So

1191
01:03:49.639 --> 01:03:51.840
<v Speaker 1>how did was Lincoln almost killed? We got to talk

1192
01:03:51.840 --> 01:03:54.360
<v Speaker 1>about your book The Promised Man at some point. Anyway,

1193
01:03:54.599 --> 01:03:57.000
<v Speaker 1>how is Lincoln almost killed? This an amazing story.

1194
01:03:57.519 --> 01:04:00.280
<v Speaker 11>So what happens is he stops in Cincinnati on his

1195
01:04:00.320 --> 01:04:04.000
<v Speaker 11>inaugural train on his way to Baltimore, and he's overnight here.

1196
01:04:04.039 --> 01:04:06.199
<v Speaker 11>He gives a speech, He gets back on his train

1197
01:04:06.280 --> 01:04:09.360
<v Speaker 11>car the next day, and one of the smart sharp

1198
01:04:09.440 --> 01:04:12.400
<v Speaker 11>detectives spotted a carpet bag that didn't.

1199
01:04:12.199 --> 01:04:15.079
<v Speaker 1>Belong in his car, a carpetbagger.

1200
01:04:14.440 --> 01:04:16.599
<v Speaker 11>And the carpet bag contained a bomb that would have

1201
01:04:16.599 --> 01:04:19.400
<v Speaker 11>blown the entire train car off the tracks, and that

1202
01:04:19.559 --> 01:04:22.920
<v Speaker 11>was Lincoln's car. So, by a matter of about ten minutes,

1203
01:04:23.480 --> 01:04:26.920
<v Speaker 11>he avoided assassination before becoming president.

1204
01:04:27.360 --> 01:04:32.119
<v Speaker 1>It's like the soldier outside of Forge Theater who went

1205
01:04:32.159 --> 01:04:36.000
<v Speaker 1>downstairs to get a drink, who left Lincoln unguarded, which

1206
01:04:36.039 --> 01:04:38.360
<v Speaker 1>is how John Wilks s Boots said, Well, the guy's left,

1207
01:04:38.360 --> 01:04:41.199
<v Speaker 1>he's drunk down on the bar. That's how he killed Lincoln.

1208
01:04:41.480 --> 01:04:44.199
<v Speaker 1>It's amazing how history can turn on such little things.

1209
01:04:44.320 --> 01:04:47.880
<v Speaker 1>Or FDR shot on our railroad platform just before the

1210
01:04:47.880 --> 01:04:51.119
<v Speaker 1>inaugural in nineteen thirty three, and the guy missed and

1211
01:04:51.199 --> 01:04:54.719
<v Speaker 1>killed the mayor of Chicago. Standing next day to FDR. Joe,

1212
01:04:54.719 --> 01:04:59.320
<v Speaker 1>what about that wild man? Wild man, he's going to

1213
01:04:59.360 --> 01:05:02.719
<v Speaker 1>be next to week. Well, we got to run, thanks guys,

1214
01:05:02.719 --> 01:05:06.159
<v Speaker 1>but explained the book, and then we gotta talk to

1215
01:05:06.159 --> 01:05:08.320
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna stick around for the STUDI stick around for

1216
01:05:08.320 --> 01:05:11.480
<v Speaker 1>the Yeah, yeah, yeah, tell me about the book, promise. Okay.

1217
01:05:11.559 --> 01:05:14.320
<v Speaker 11>So this is about the people who came down the

1218
01:05:14.320 --> 01:05:18.199
<v Speaker 11>Ohio River on flat boats in the seventeen eighties when

1219
01:05:18.280 --> 01:05:21.559
<v Speaker 11>the north side of the Ohio was so dangerous it

1220
01:05:21.599 --> 01:05:25.840
<v Speaker 11>was known as the Miami Slaughterhouse, kind of like OTR. No, Well, yeah,

1221
01:05:26.159 --> 01:05:28.559
<v Speaker 11>only this was the Miami and the Shawnees when they

1222
01:05:28.599 --> 01:05:31.400
<v Speaker 11>were skinning you alive and they were taking your tortuing you,

1223
01:05:31.519 --> 01:05:33.719
<v Speaker 11>they burn you for torture you for three days at

1224
01:05:33.719 --> 01:05:36.679
<v Speaker 11>a time, and make you last as long as they

1225
01:05:36.719 --> 01:05:37.679
<v Speaker 11>could keep you alive.

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01:05:37.719 --> 01:05:40.840
<v Speaker 1>There are horrible things done on both sides, by the way.

1227
01:05:40.880 --> 01:05:43.719
<v Speaker 9>The Indians were mean to Indians, aren't they mean? Indians

1228
01:05:43.719 --> 01:05:45.960
<v Speaker 9>were mean to white people, and white people were mean

1229
01:05:46.000 --> 01:05:46.440
<v Speaker 9>the Indians.

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01:05:46.519 --> 01:05:49.960
<v Speaker 11>Absolutely, So the difference, if there is one fine point

1231
01:05:49.960 --> 01:05:52.639
<v Speaker 11>of difference, it's that the white people did not take

1232
01:05:52.679 --> 01:05:55.800
<v Speaker 11>their prisoners and entertain everybody for three days of torture.

1233
01:05:56.119 --> 01:05:59.280
<v Speaker 11>The Indians did that routinely, just for the entire tribe

1234
01:05:59.280 --> 01:06:01.880
<v Speaker 11>would gather and just do things, take part and take

1235
01:06:01.960 --> 01:06:03.000
<v Speaker 11>turns torturing something.

1236
01:06:03.039 --> 01:06:05.400
<v Speaker 1>Well anyway, So these people came here kind of like

1237
01:06:05.400 --> 01:06:08.039
<v Speaker 1>an argument before the High Supreme Court. Exactly, you take

1238
01:06:08.079 --> 01:06:11.960
<v Speaker 1>times being tortured by Sharon Kennedy anyway, please continue, Okay.

1239
01:06:12.280 --> 01:06:15.039
<v Speaker 11>So they couldn't find anybody to settle this land, so

1240
01:06:15.079 --> 01:06:19.440
<v Speaker 11>they told the Revolutionary war veterans, you've just defeated the

1241
01:06:19.440 --> 01:06:23.039
<v Speaker 11>biggest empire on earth. Congratulations. Bad news is we don't

1242
01:06:23.039 --> 01:06:24.639
<v Speaker 11>have any money in the treasury to paan pay.

1243
01:06:24.719 --> 01:06:24.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1244
01:06:24.920 --> 01:06:28.280
<v Speaker 11>But but good news, free land in Ohio as much

1245
01:06:28.280 --> 01:06:28.880
<v Speaker 11>as you were.

1246
01:06:29.000 --> 01:06:31.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's where you're skinned alive and scout that the

1247
01:06:31.599 --> 01:06:33.119
<v Speaker 1>three days. I don't want to go there. That was

1248
01:06:33.159 --> 01:06:35.559
<v Speaker 1>the fine print. Those are tough dudes, correct, Hey, we're

1249
01:06:35.679 --> 01:06:39.440
<v Speaker 1>very tough dudes. Simon Kenton, Simon Kenton. He was a

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<v Speaker 1>mean man. Sigone mean man. And uh, if you were

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<v Speaker 1>hung or burned. I saw the movie Last of the Mohigans.

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<v Speaker 1>They would hang the British soldiers from a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a tripod and just slow roast them over a

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<v Speaker 1>period of time, slow roasted. Yeah, the injur is in

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<v Speaker 1>cineray Take days. They would put cools around the pole

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<v Speaker 1>and slowly push them in this intense for fund and

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<v Speaker 1>then they shoots you with arrows and the lake and

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<v Speaker 1>you know. The torture a prisoner.

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<v Speaker 9>I don't know what you found, Peter, but it basically

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<v Speaker 9>ended with the Kamza said it was it was not

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<v Speaker 9>right to torture prisoner, just kill him out right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, he is no problem with killing people. I

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<v Speaker 1>would they treat women? How many rapes? Would all of them?

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<v Speaker 5>Well?

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody?

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<v Speaker 11>You got to remember here, the British were still really

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<v Speaker 11>angry that they'd lost the revolution. They are and they

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<v Speaker 11>didn't want to have any chance that these colonies would

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<v Speaker 11>spread into what they thought was Canadian land, that was

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<v Speaker 11>all going to be part of Canada.

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<v Speaker 1>Ohiowood might be again our fifty first state, Trump says, Canada. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's hope.

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<v Speaker 11>So so they the British, were paying these tribes of

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<v Speaker 11>Indians who were glad to do it anyway. But they

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<v Speaker 11>paid him fifty dollars for scalps and one hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 11>for a hostage. And then if they could march them

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<v Speaker 11>on the way to Fort Detroit, then those people would

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<v Speaker 11>be made into slaves in Canada. Women, boys, men didn't

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<v Speaker 11>survive well, not good.

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<v Speaker 1>If they fought back, they were victims of torture. There

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<v Speaker 1>were testicles removed and stuffed in their mouth, or they

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<v Speaker 1>were in the gauntlet. The Gauntlet's another problem, the gauntlet.

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<v Speaker 1>Simon Kentton survived like ten of those, not like he's

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<v Speaker 1>the only one to survived. Initially. If you get into

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<v Speaker 1>sane next, Oh, you have counseling waiting for you, you do,

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<v Speaker 1>let's continue. Peter Bronson, Joe Dieters counseling on seven hundred WLW.

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<v Speaker 4>America is a nation that can be defined in a

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<v Speaker 4>single word. I was gonna foot him.

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<v Speaker 1>He quiet, I'm broadcasting, have celebrity stooges remaining.

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<v Speaker 8>I'll tell you what will you I'm not I'm not

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<v Speaker 8>used to these heavy weights in here, big time lawyers,

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01:08:51.239 --> 01:08:55.319
<v Speaker 8>big time prosecutors, and a big time author and journalist.

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<v Speaker 5>I know it.

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<v Speaker 1>Seg wants to know he's cheap. It's like a democrat.

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<v Speaker 1>But he wants to what do you get the promise?

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01:09:00.920 --> 01:09:03.399
<v Speaker 1>I mean, where do you get promised land by Peter Bronson?

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<v Speaker 11>You can get it right from me, right now, Seg,

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01:09:06.000 --> 01:09:06.960
<v Speaker 11>and anybody else.

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<v Speaker 1>Can like like free stuff theresas.

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<v Speaker 11>And you go to my website Chili Dog press dot

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<v Speaker 11>com and I have a special right now for two

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<v Speaker 11>days shipping two day seconds.

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01:09:15.159 --> 01:09:17.039
<v Speaker 1>You can still get it in time for Christmas. Chilli

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01:09:17.079 --> 01:09:21.479
<v Speaker 1>Dog also all local bookstores now the Midwest was one

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01:09:21.520 --> 01:09:23.760
<v Speaker 1>great Christmas gift. Yes, before we go to this is

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01:09:23.920 --> 01:09:26.000
<v Speaker 1>as good as the man who says Cincinnat.

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<v Speaker 11>I think so, but every one is my favorite. When

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<v Speaker 11>I finished, unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>But Joe, when's the next one?

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<v Speaker 10>Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Dieter from now he's got to write Joe Peter's

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01:09:34.399 --> 01:09:35.239
<v Speaker 1>murder mysteries.

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<v Speaker 8>It's not a mystery, No, they're all like the hardy boys.

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<v Speaker 1>They're all sold is cold case clock talk about if

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<v Speaker 1>you can. The gauntlets segment thinks he runs a gaulin

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01:09:46.840 --> 01:09:49.760
<v Speaker 1>every morning with Chuck every morning. It's every afternoon with.

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<v Speaker 9>The Indians would line up, you know too, across from

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01:09:54.039 --> 01:09:57.119
<v Speaker 9>each other and go for about a mile, and a

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01:09:58.159 --> 01:10:01.520
<v Speaker 9>frontiersman or someone who fell that the Indians hands would.

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<v Speaker 1>Have to run that mile.

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<v Speaker 9>The Indians were armed with clubs and rocks and sticks

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01:10:07.279 --> 01:10:09.560
<v Speaker 9>and whatever else they could gather up. And you had

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<v Speaker 9>to run through this thing. Why they beat the hell

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<v Speaker 9>out of you. What if you fell, If you fell,

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01:10:14.359 --> 01:10:15.279
<v Speaker 9>you were beating the death.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, Simon Kenton fell almost at the end, he said, almost.

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<v Speaker 1>To the end. Simon story I heard was a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit different than what Joe told. But he fell and

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<v Speaker 1>they revived him and made him start over here according to.

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<v Speaker 9>Acording to Shawnee, I don't think it's a legend, and

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<v Speaker 9>was told widely. He collapsed at the end ever getting

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<v Speaker 9>hitting the head with a club and a squaw. An

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01:10:43.640 --> 01:10:47.039
<v Speaker 9>older lady was squatting over his face, beating him in

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<v Speaker 9>his lower body.

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<v Speaker 1>He reared up and bit her.

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<v Speaker 9>In the card in the ground area and wouldn't let go,

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<v Speaker 9>and she was screaming, bloody murdered.

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<v Speaker 1>The Indians thought it was just there, That wasn't raw

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<v Speaker 1>wrestling the other night.

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<v Speaker 8>Sure, I think he got mixed up.

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<v Speaker 1>Simon Kenton should have copyrighted the move. But I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure you can say squaw anymore. But he bit her

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<v Speaker 1>in the crotch if he took a piece of the

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01:11:11.920 --> 01:11:15.840
<v Speaker 1>Indian squalls private parts. And the other Indians were laughing.

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01:11:15.960 --> 01:11:17.479
<v Speaker 1>They thought it was just there. And then na the

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<v Speaker 1>high school name of the high school, right, didn't they Simon Ken,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Kenton right now? He's how big? Can you tell me? Peter?

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<v Speaker 1>He was six foot five? Yeah, he was nasty, five

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01:11:26.079 --> 01:11:26.640
<v Speaker 1>sixty six.

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<v Speaker 11>He's a big, big, tough guy and he could run

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<v Speaker 11>like the deer. The Indians couldn't catch him. And he

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<v Speaker 11>also taught himself to load his muzzle loading musket while

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<v Speaker 11>he was running.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what they could there.

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<v Speaker 11>No, they never could figure out how this guy could

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01:11:43.840 --> 01:11:46.399
<v Speaker 11>keep shooting at him while he's running and they get

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<v Speaker 11>one shot and then they got to go for the time.

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<v Speaker 9>If you want to see a rifle, if you want

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01:11:50.159 --> 01:11:52.960
<v Speaker 9>to see a good The latest State Park in Ohio

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<v Speaker 9>is the Great Council State Park between Xenia and Yellow Springs.

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<v Speaker 9>It's fran Dewin's Park because Franz loves he really really

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<v Speaker 9>did it.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a beautiful place.

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<v Speaker 9>If people wanted to learn the history the Frontiersman and

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<v Speaker 9>the Shawnees, it's a great place to see.

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<v Speaker 1>Debscribe to Cumpsey was the main guy. He was born

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<v Speaker 1>there Yellow Springs. Now a bunch of damn liberals. That's

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<v Speaker 1>a different issue. But and he lived and he died

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01:12:19.399 --> 01:12:23.960
<v Speaker 1>defending Indian rights against the ugly Colraine Township segment Dennis

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<v Speaker 1>and Frontierman. But how many people lived? What comes out, Oh, there's.

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<v Speaker 9>One hundred thousand Indians and in that in shallow cause

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<v Speaker 9>I think known as RedHawks right now, Joe, you can't

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<v Speaker 9>say Indians.

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<v Speaker 1>The rules Shawnees.

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<v Speaker 9>And they would the white The whites would take their

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<v Speaker 9>flat boats, as Peter said, and they float down from

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01:12:42.840 --> 01:12:46.479
<v Speaker 9>Fort Pitt and they would settle in Kentucky. And it

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01:12:46.600 --> 01:12:48.600
<v Speaker 9>was such an offense to the Shawnees because that was

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01:12:48.640 --> 01:12:53.079
<v Speaker 9>their sacred hunting ground in Kentucky. And so they took

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<v Speaker 9>umbrage to people living there.

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01:12:56.039 --> 01:12:58.600
<v Speaker 1>So you know, they.

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01:12:58.479 --> 01:13:02.399
<v Speaker 9>Had Indian fights and Peter's book. I'm sure details in

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01:13:02.439 --> 01:13:05.000
<v Speaker 9>a much better way than I can, But there was

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01:13:05.439 --> 01:13:07.680
<v Speaker 9>ugliness on both sides beyond belief.

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01:13:07.760 --> 01:13:10.039
<v Speaker 1>What did the Indians do to these frontiersmen if they

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01:13:10.079 --> 01:13:12.960
<v Speaker 1>caught them, Well, there was not good segment not good.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, one method of torture would be that they'd

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01:13:16.520 --> 01:13:19.600
<v Speaker 1>slowly burn your fingers off, and when you lost all

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01:13:19.760 --> 01:13:21.960
<v Speaker 1>nerves and sensation, then they would cut off your hand

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01:13:22.000 --> 01:13:25.680
<v Speaker 1>at the wrist and start over segment your reaction.

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<v Speaker 9>And then we had American soldiers who burned Christian Indians

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01:13:29.920 --> 01:13:33.600
<v Speaker 9>in central Ohio, and they were placing it and told

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01:13:33.600 --> 01:13:37.000
<v Speaker 9>these these women and children there who were Christian by

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<v Speaker 9>the way, prepared to die, pray tonight, and they just

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01:13:40.880 --> 01:13:42.880
<v Speaker 9>set the building on fire the next day.

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<v Speaker 1>It was horrible stuff. It was a savage, savage battle.

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<v Speaker 11>And really the guy who settled all this Finally, after

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<v Speaker 11>two expeditions sent by George Washington to make the Northwest

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<v Speaker 11>Territory safe for settlement, two of them met with so

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01:14:00.399 --> 01:14:02.680
<v Speaker 11>terrible failure they were completely massacred.

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01:14:03.159 --> 01:14:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Saint Clair's massacre.

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01:14:04.680 --> 01:14:08.680
<v Speaker 11>Was known as the Battle of a Thousand Slain, which

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01:14:08.760 --> 01:14:12.560
<v Speaker 11>is the biggest Indian victory, including Custer's last stand, which

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01:14:12.600 --> 01:14:15.119
<v Speaker 11>was only two hundred and fifty guys. And that happened

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01:14:15.199 --> 01:14:18.600
<v Speaker 11>right here in Ohio at Defiance, Ohio. Segment, your reaction

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01:14:18.760 --> 01:14:20.800
<v Speaker 11>about that? Give them some sports.

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01:14:20.800 --> 01:14:22.520
<v Speaker 8>And Jone's got a job. He's going to work for

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01:14:22.520 --> 01:14:26.000
<v Speaker 8>the Ohio Historical Society. He was a Supreme courtage job.

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<v Speaker 8>Right now, there you go. You could be a tour guide.

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<v Speaker 8>There's between hat, his little hat and a badge. Nothing

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01:14:31.560 --> 01:14:35.359
<v Speaker 8>to be looking good, losing stuff all over here. And

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<v Speaker 8>I talked to Tanya Rourke. She's gonna go get your

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01:14:37.600 --> 01:14:40.560
<v Speaker 8>phone at the Capitol Grill. I got good fun left

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01:14:40.560 --> 01:14:43.000
<v Speaker 8>it in the men's room. That's a different issue. Segment.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you know all this? I know, I know,

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01:14:45.880 --> 01:14:48.279
<v Speaker 1>I know. Segment. Give me some sports and make it fast.

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<v Speaker 8>Tax Resolution powered by Toe Sheldon Roundtable Show live from

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<v Speaker 8>Longnecks and Wilder at six oh five.

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<v Speaker 1>Also Willie the FC.

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<v Speaker 8>Cincinnati's twenty twenty five Major League Soccer regular season schedule

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<v Speaker 8>is out. The Orange and Blue will kick off their

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<v Speaker 8>seventh season in the MLS and their tenth season overall.

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<v Speaker 1>But they didn't get Caitlin Clark's franchise.

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<v Speaker 8>Here tod Day No on Saturday, February twenty second against

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<v Speaker 8>defending Eastern Conference champion New York Red Bulls.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's the man that killed Arambe? Same guy that killed

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01:15:51.279 --> 01:15:54.159
<v Speaker 1>Liberty Valance? There he sits right there. I was in

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01:15:54.279 --> 01:15:56.840
<v Speaker 1>the teams was not me? It was read the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>underneath Harambe. What does it say?

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<v Speaker 8>Can't say murdered in cold blood? Joe Dieters around that

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01:16:05.399 --> 01:16:08.439
<v Speaker 8>kid for a while, Code Red. He saved the kid's life.

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<v Speaker 1>Forget about the facts. Zero for the facts. Sierra tolerance

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01:16:12.760 --> 01:16:15.119
<v Speaker 1>for a gorilla hauling a kid into the moat and

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01:16:15.199 --> 01:16:17.479
<v Speaker 1>trying to beat the crap out of him. Columbus.

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<v Speaker 8>Columbus comes here Saturday, July the twelfth, and they will

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01:16:21.720 --> 01:16:25.760
<v Speaker 8>FCC will play at the defending MLS Cup champion l

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01:16:25.800 --> 01:16:28.920
<v Speaker 8>A l A Galaxy. In September, says they're murdered for

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01:16:28.960 --> 01:16:31.199
<v Speaker 8>no reason by Joe Dieters.

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01:16:32.760 --> 01:16:33.520
<v Speaker 1>I did not have enough.

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<v Speaker 8>He keeps forgetting his T shirt over there. The Harambe's

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01:16:37.359 --> 01:16:39.520
<v Speaker 8>the new the newest sports team in town.

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<v Speaker 1>We're keeping the Harambas, the FC Harambas. We keep forgetting

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01:16:44.399 --> 01:16:47.560
<v Speaker 1>that shirt. He lives in Joe, you've done that. He

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<v Speaker 1>lives only in our memory, along with Fiona and Tucker.

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01:16:50.720 --> 01:16:51.880
<v Speaker 1>What about Fiona and Tucker?

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<v Speaker 8>There's what about BB and uh? What's the other ones?

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<v Speaker 8>What's the little one's name?

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<v Speaker 1>Now? I say that a little monkey that was addicted?

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<v Speaker 1>What about the monkey that was drug addicted? I say

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<v Speaker 1>that I saved the off spring off a rhombe. What happened?

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<v Speaker 1>I saved you?

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<v Speaker 9>He was being that when I was outside that bar,

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<v Speaker 9>And that was a different, different one.

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<v Speaker 1>This this monkey was drug addicted.

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<v Speaker 9>And we seized him and got him back into rehab

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<v Speaker 9>in Indiana and send.

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<v Speaker 1>Him to Florida.

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<v Speaker 9>So yeah, when they had to dry out, he was

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<v Speaker 9>drouging crack every day?

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<v Speaker 1>Why was he smoking crack? Why would his boss was

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<v Speaker 1>smoking crab?

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<v Speaker 9>Because ever the center downtown, No, no, no, it was

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<v Speaker 9>out house Horrange township was out out in near you se.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's counseling in sant X obviously. So when you

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<v Speaker 1>got a drug addicted monkey, what do you do.

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<v Speaker 9>There's a little rehab spot in Indiana and we sent

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<v Speaker 9>him to and he got cleaned up clean.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's now he's down in Florida. Someone he's grab

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody send me these pictures. Other brothers playing golf and smoking.

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<v Speaker 8>Cigarettes, sitting at some golf course someplace smoking.

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<v Speaker 1>So what wasn't that up Monkey and Loveland that I visited?

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<v Speaker 1>It was like a monkey bar. What was his name?

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<v Speaker 11>I can't remember his name, but remember there's big Let's

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<v Speaker 11>say his name was Charlie or so free Charlie.

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<v Speaker 1>There were signs up everyone. He drank beer with him.

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<v Speaker 1>I sat in the bar when he smoked cigarettes cigarettes,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, hey, you want another one, gave another

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<v Speaker 1>beer down the beer and the stepped in and took

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<v Speaker 1>him away. Animal took away his life.

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<v Speaker 11>It was like cruelty to animals what they did do

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<v Speaker 11>it by the cruelty and they wanted to stay at

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<v Speaker 11>the bar and pick up chicks exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And they had a cage on Joe to throw his poo.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, you know when I was a King's on a

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<v Speaker 9>guy I worked with gout eaten by the lions.

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<v Speaker 1>There that's eaten by the lions, and then they got

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<v Speaker 1>rid of it. That is you talk about Jurassic Park,

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<v Speaker 1>You know the same everything Jurassic Park failed, the fences failed,

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<v Speaker 1>things like.

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<v Speaker 9>That that happened at Jungle Safari all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to run segment. Thank you, Willie Peter Bronson. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the website chilidogpress dot com. Joe, you're unemployed. Good luck,

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<v Speaker 1>Try to get possession on your phone. It's very lonely

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<v Speaker 1>right now, very lonely. Lonely man on seven hundred W

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