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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>AM six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on demand

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<v Speaker 1>on the iHeartRadio app At LA City Hall downtown, Kristin Crowley,

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<v Speaker 1>the ousted LA Fire Chief, sitting amongst dozens of La

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<v Speaker 1>City Fire Department workers. The union put out the call

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<v Speaker 1>to show support, and that they did, streaming into City

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<v Speaker 1>Hall this morning to be here as Kristin Crowley makes

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<v Speaker 1>a I believe unprecedented appeal to get her job back

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<v Speaker 1>as chief of LA Fire Department. Mayor Karen Bass took

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<v Speaker 1>the unusual step of dismissing her. This all began. That

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<v Speaker 1>was a couple of weeks ago, but this all began

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<v Speaker 1>and may have begun before. I don't know what the

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<v Speaker 1>relationship between Mayor Karen Bass and Fire Chief Kristin Crowley was,

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<v Speaker 1>but from where we pick it up, where we learned

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<v Speaker 1>about it was after these fires exploded back in early

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<v Speaker 1>January in the Palisades and in altadinas the Palisades as

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<v Speaker 1>it relates to Los Angeles. But Gary and I sat

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<v Speaker 1>here a day before those fires broke out, and we

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<v Speaker 1>had the weather reports same way that everybody else had

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<v Speaker 1>the weather reports. The mayor did have those weather reports.

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<v Speaker 1>That was one of the assertions that the fire chief

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<v Speaker 1>failed to tell the mayor how bad the weather conditions

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<v Speaker 1>were going to be. To what she got to call

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<v Speaker 1>bs on the face of that one, because everybody knew

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<v Speaker 1>how bad the weather was going to be, in the

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<v Speaker 1>conditions and the fire danger, but it was the mayor

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<v Speaker 1>who decided to continue with her plan trip to Africa

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<v Speaker 1>despite knowing those weather conditions. She came back to a firestorm,

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<v Speaker 1>a firestorm of people saying, where the hell were you

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<v Speaker 1>while the city burned?

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<v Speaker 2>Where the hell were you? Why were you.

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<v Speaker 1>At that cocktail reception as people were grabbing their children

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<v Speaker 1>and their livelihoods and escaping their burning homes.

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<v Speaker 2>Where the hell were you?

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<v Speaker 1>She came back as the fire chief. Kristen Crowley at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, marched her ass, excuse me, marched herself before

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<v Speaker 1>cameras and said, the cities let us down. We are

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<v Speaker 1>an underfunded department. A reporter asked, did the city fail you?

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<v Speaker 1>She said yes. The mayor comes back to town, has

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<v Speaker 1>a closed door meeting with Kristin Crowley. They come out

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<v Speaker 1>and they say we're going to work together in lockstep.

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<v Speaker 1>B S you knew that that was beloney. I can't

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<v Speaker 1>believe it took so long, but the mayor finally made

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<v Speaker 1>that step in firing Kristin Crowley, who threw the mayor

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<v Speaker 1>under the bus because of that trip.

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<v Speaker 2>So here we are.

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<v Speaker 1>The mayor had said that Kristin Crowley, while it was

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<v Speaker 1>under her watch, that she didn't activate one thousand firefighters

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<v Speaker 1>that wind event, for that wind event, that it was

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<v Speaker 1>Kristin Crowley who did not make use of at least

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<v Speaker 1>forty firetrucks or apparatus that week that the fires were burning. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Kristin Crowley has come out today to beg for her

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<v Speaker 1>job back before this city council. She needs ten votes

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<v Speaker 1>from the council's fifteen members to be reinstated as chief.

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<v Speaker 1>She took to the seated podium and the little table

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<v Speaker 1>there with the microphone before the semi circle of city

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<v Speaker 1>council members today, hair in a bun Navy suit and

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<v Speaker 1>she said that the mayor has made multiple false accusations

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<v Speaker 1>against me.

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<v Speaker 2>She denies she said it today.

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<v Speaker 1>She denies that she refused to conduct that after action

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<v Speaker 1>report on the Palisades fire. She says, in fact, I

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<v Speaker 1>was looking to the state for help since they had

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<v Speaker 1>the people to do the after action report, something to

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<v Speaker 1>the effect of and on paarphrasing.

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<v Speaker 2>Here, we had our hands full.

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<v Speaker 1>Still we didn't have time or the people or the

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<v Speaker 1>resources to get to an after action report. We're still

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<v Speaker 1>picking up the pieces here. We're still trying to respond

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<v Speaker 1>to nine to one one calls, is what she sang

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<v Speaker 1>there today. That she did not send home the thousand

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<v Speaker 1>firefighters on the day of the fire, saying that we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have enough trucks to put them on. She said

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<v Speaker 1>the maintenance yards are filled with these broken down trucks

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<v Speaker 1>and other apparatus that the city has not found the

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<v Speaker 1>money to fix. She says it's a lack of funding

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<v Speaker 1>that left more than one hundred trucks and other vehicles

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<v Speaker 1>inoperable in those maintenance yards. She says, I absolutely told

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<v Speaker 1>the mayor about the severe winds that were forecast, and

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<v Speaker 1>that the mayor's office is itself issued multiple messages to

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<v Speaker 1>the public warning about the wind conditions.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the case.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we wouldn't be talking about it the way

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<v Speaker 1>we were talking about it the day before the fires

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<v Speaker 1>if it wasn't public knowledge. It's going to be an

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<v Speaker 1>uphill climb for her as she continues to take questions

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<v Speaker 1>from council members, because this is a council divided when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to Kristin Crowley. You've got council President Marquise

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<v Speaker 1>Harris Dawson, who is acting mayor by the bye when

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<v Speaker 1>the fires happened and was trying to get information from

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<v Speaker 1>the fire chief repeatedly. Those text messages that ABA on

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<v Speaker 1>earthed show us that we talked about it yesterday. Members

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<v Speaker 1>current Price who goes, Sodo Martinez, and Adrian Nazarian all

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<v Speaker 1>stand alongside Bass when she fired Kristin Crowley. A councilman,

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<v Speaker 1>Bob Bloomfield, has also come out in favor of Bass's decision.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a game of thrones essentially there at City Hall,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's a lot more political capital I would believe

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<v Speaker 1>to be gained from somebody who's been in the game

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<v Speaker 1>for as long as Karen Bass has than to get

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<v Speaker 1>into the camp of Kristin Crowley.

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<v Speaker 2>Unfortunately for her, there.

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<v Speaker 1>Are a couple council members who have spoken out against

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<v Speaker 1>the firing, Monica Rodriguez being one of them and Tracy

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<v Speaker 1>Park being another. Those were two council members that encouraged

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<v Speaker 1>her to appeal the decision, but again she needs ten

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<v Speaker 1>votes out of fifteen. It's going to be probably a

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<v Speaker 1>lengthy question and answer session. And again Michael Monks is

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<v Speaker 1>there from KFI News and will be following all of

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<v Speaker 1>it and break it down into what is palatable for

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<v Speaker 1>us to gather from this bureaucratic process. But when we

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<v Speaker 1>come back, it is Tuesday, and you know what that means.

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<v Speaker 1>It's true crime Tuesday. So while we stay on top

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<v Speaker 1>of this and all the news from Washington, we will

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<v Speaker 1>tell you the story of Ruby Frankie. She's getting a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of attention because of a documentary that just dropped

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<v Speaker 1>on Hulu. It's called The Devil in the Family. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a docuseries and it is gripping. I mean I started

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<v Speaker 1>it yesterday and could not tear myself away. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>three part series and this is a woman who, along

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<v Speaker 1>with her husband and their six children, had a very

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<v Speaker 1>successful YouTube channel and she chronicled for kids growing up

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<v Speaker 1>and to the detriment of the children. In some cases,

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<v Speaker 1>things that you didn't see on camera are on the

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube channel. Well, this documentary got a hold of the

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<v Speaker 1>unedited footage and it is like mommy Dearest comes to life.

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<v Speaker 1>The woman deemed America's mom YouTube, even posting a picture

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<v Speaker 1>of her in the family on Mother's Day on all

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<v Speaker 1>their social channels, was a freaking monster. At the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>she's collecting hundreds of thousands of dollars from different brands

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<v Speaker 1>that want her to use their products and show those

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<v Speaker 1>kids on camera. It's all so gross and so very America.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is Tuesday, and have we got a story

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<v Speaker 1>for you. This one is all about the devil in

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<v Speaker 1>the family.

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<v Speaker 3>The story is true.

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<v Speaker 2>Sound's true, No, it sounds made up. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Gary and Shannon present True Crime.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, if you're like me, you've got a vague memory

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<v Speaker 1>of this mom vlogger who was arrested a year and

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<v Speaker 1>a half ago, something like that August twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>Your name's Ruby, Frankie. And what happened in August is

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<v Speaker 1>there was a little boy caught on a ring cam.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can see in the video, this little boy

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<v Speaker 1>go to a neighbor's house, ring the doorbell. No one answers.

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<v Speaker 1>He walks away slowly. He looks real skinny, really thin.

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<v Speaker 1>You can kind of see the bones in his legs

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<v Speaker 1>as he's walking. Away, and then an older gentleman says yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and the boy says to him, and he helped me

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<v Speaker 1>with two favors. Number one, can you take me to

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<v Speaker 1>a police station? And the elderly man says, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't you sit down a little bit, and him

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<v Speaker 1>and whoever the female is inside proceed to feed the

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<v Speaker 1>boy as they're calling for help because he's clearly malnourished,

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<v Speaker 1>and the elderly gentleman, who looks very sturdy, does say

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<v Speaker 1>to the nine to one one dispatcher at the time, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't say it. He just breaks down, this grown

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<v Speaker 1>man breaking down over the condition that this twelve year

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<v Speaker 2>And then you learned.

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<v Speaker 1>About the whole story, or at least if you were

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<v Speaker 1>paying attention, you did. I did not until I stumbled

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<v Speaker 1>upon this documentary last night on Hulu. It's called Devil

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<v Speaker 1>in the Family. The fall of they're voting.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, they're voting now. Oh, let's let's go there a

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<v Speaker 2>city council. That was quick.

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<v Speaker 1>They are going to vote now again. She needs ten

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<v Speaker 1>people on the council to agree that she should be reinstated.

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<v Speaker 1>Ten out of fifteen city clerk now calling for the

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<v Speaker 1>vote we will take you there live, or will we?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh Jacob's not there, All right, well I can, I

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<v Speaker 1>can bring I'm going to bring it up right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh cool, I'm not hearing anything either.

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<v Speaker 2>They took the chiron down.

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<v Speaker 1>They did have kind of like a oh okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>we've got is the is this the correct U?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that the correct vote?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, here we go, now we can hear all right,

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<v Speaker 3>what's before, missus clerk President?

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<v Speaker 2>The council now vote on items one through eighty. Okay, no,

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<v Speaker 2>this is not that twenty nine. They're going to vote

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<v Speaker 2>on a number of things.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know if they're voting specifically on this agenda item,

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<v Speaker 1>so let's bring it down there.

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<v Speaker 2>I know they vote on a number of things.

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<v Speaker 1>I've wasted enough hours of my life sitting through city

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<v Speaker 1>council meetings. So just because they're voting on something doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean it's the thing that we're all paying attention to

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<v Speaker 2>So we we'll obviously stay on top of that.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, okay, So The Devil in the Family, The

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<v Speaker 1>Fall of Ruby Frankie talks about the career and the

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<v Speaker 1>downfall of this mom vlogger. This was a woman who

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like got into YouTube and her YouTube channel

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<v Speaker 1>when things were taking off. She started filming her kids

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<v Speaker 1>around the house and started seeing all the views that

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<v Speaker 1>she was getting on this on this channel, and she's thinking, well,

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<v Speaker 1>there's something here, so she started taking more and more

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<v Speaker 1>and more videos, and they started their YouTube channel, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's called eight Passengers. It's now defunct, so if you

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<v Speaker 1>go looking for it, you're not going to find it.

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<v Speaker 1>But all the footage is really in this documentary, the

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<v Speaker 1>footage that people didn't see as well, and that's the

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<v Speaker 1>mommy dearest stuff, because all seems super copathetic when you're

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<v Speaker 1>watching the videos of the cute kids growing up and

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<v Speaker 1>the Mormon mother doing everything right and all the things.

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<v Speaker 1>Because as they get into in the documentary and the

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<v Speaker 1>Mormon faith, the best thing that can happen to you,

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest calling, the biggest gift that you can get

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<v Speaker 1>is to be a parent, to be a mom, and

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<v Speaker 1>specific specifically, and her channel is all about that and

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<v Speaker 1>She started posting these unfiltered vlogs about caring for the

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<v Speaker 1>kids and it's not all sunshine and roses. Are our

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<v Speaker 1>pressures of mom life as well, but they were getting

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of scribers every month. People were commenting to see

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<v Speaker 1>Chad please, because he was a goofball, and right there.

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<v Speaker 2>But she would give the people what they asked for.

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<v Speaker 1>At the height of their YouTube fame, this family was

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<v Speaker 1>But as the documentary shows, as the kids grow older,

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't just to hang out with the family. It

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<v Speaker 1>And as you see in the documentary, she's screaming at

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<v Speaker 1>that she would whip them all so that they would

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<v Speaker 1>appear to be happy on the videos because they were

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<v Speaker 1>making so much money. And the dad in this story

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<v Speaker 1>is along for the whole ride. Now, he does a

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<v Speaker 1>number of interviews, extensive interviews in this documentary. What a

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<v Speaker 1>likable guy. He seems to be a great kid. Dad,

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<v Speaker 1>loves his kids, a nice guy, self confessed. Nerd obviously

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry to interrupt you, but CNN not CNN. The

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<v Speaker 3>voted thirteen to two to deny former Chief Crowley's appeal.

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<v Speaker 1>So, okay, excellent, I mean, not excellent for her, but

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<v Speaker 1>good that we can put a bow on that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we kind of thought that's the way that that cookie

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, you said she had thirteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Votes, thirteen to two, So thirteen to two to deny herself.

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<v Speaker 2>To nineteen people.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Okay, council members are against her.

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<v Speaker 2>Got it? Got it? Go?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, so she has not been reinstated.

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<v Speaker 2>Got it. For a second, I had it reverse in

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<v Speaker 1>So she needed ten yes, is And as we were

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<v Speaker 1>kind of doing the math internally here, she had two

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<v Speaker 1>be an uphill climb for her to get eight more.

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<v Speaker 1>And they did ask for a number of things to

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<v Speaker 1>be clarified from the Controller's office in terms of her

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<v Speaker 1>claims about her budget concerns and what happened. But at

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<v Speaker 1>this level, it's it's going to be more about who

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<v Speaker 1>gets you further politically. Is it Kristin Crowley, the ousted

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<v Speaker 1>police chief, or is it the sitting mayor of Los Angeles,

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<v Speaker 1>Karen Bass And being a friend of Karen Vass despite

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<v Speaker 1>the hits she has taken, at this juncture, it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to get you further. It's going to move you further

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<v Speaker 1>up the political ladder. And I wish that wasn't the

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<v Speaker 1>only currency that was used for decisions like this, but

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<v Speaker 1>it certainly is, so there you have it. It was

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<v Speaker 1>an emotional, contentious hearing there at La City Council as

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<v Speaker 1>Kristin Crowley pleaded for her job back. But as you

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<v Speaker 1>heard Deborah break the news, the council voted thirteen to

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<v Speaker 1>two to deny her. That's she needed ten for yes,

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<v Speaker 1>she only got two. So they have voted in support

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<v Speaker 1>of Karen Bass's decision to terminate her. It's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be interesting to see what happens with Kristin Crowley where

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<v Speaker 1>she ends up.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. I don't think you're going to hear her name again,

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<v Speaker 2>that is my guess.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't think that that is going to portend

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<v Speaker 1>a bright political future. Unfortunately, there needed to be a scapegoat.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said at the beginning of the segment, these

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<v Speaker 1>fires were big. The scope was too large. It seemed

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<v Speaker 1>was impossible to get on top of these in time

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<v Speaker 1>the way the wind worked that day. But unfortunately, there

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<v Speaker 1>was a scapegoat and Kristian Crowley lost her job because

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Karen Bass again not without her hits. She

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<v Speaker 1>did suffer a number of political hits in this one.

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<v Speaker 1>We will continue with the story of the awful monster

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<v Speaker 1>that is Ruby Frankie and the documentation of this on

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<v Speaker 1>the Hulu document series Devil and the Family where we

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<v Speaker 1>last left off. The kids are getting older, they're starting

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<v Speaker 1>to say, I don't want to play anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to do this YouTube channel.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's when things take a turn into criminality for

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<v Speaker 1>the self confessed or the self crowned mom of America.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get into it.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep it right here. John Cobelt coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>He's already listening to audio from the city council chambers

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<v Speaker 1>and at the speakers out there in the hallway, so

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<v Speaker 1>he will stay on top of this. It was contentious.

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<v Speaker 1>It was an emotionalle hearing downtown La City Hall as

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<v Speaker 1>the ousted fire chief Kristen Crowley begged for her job back.

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<v Speaker 1>Said that the mayor lied essentially about her performance post

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<v Speaker 1>and during the fire event in the Palisades, but she

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<v Speaker 1>needed ten votes to get her job back, and she

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<v Speaker 1>only got two, which shows where the city council lies.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean that will be a conversation probably that

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<v Speaker 1>continues in terms of funding for the La Fire Department

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<v Speaker 1>and something that we want funded. Right she said, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not even halfway there, so we'll probably hear more about that.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about Devil in the Family for true Crame Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>The Fall of Ruby Frankie. This was a mom who

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<v Speaker 1>had this eight passengers YouTube channel known for vlogging about

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<v Speaker 1>her Mormon faith, raising her six children, and she got

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<v Speaker 1>addicted to the fame and the checks that would come

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<v Speaker 1>in from different brands. And her kids started to get older,

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<v Speaker 1>the older ones, and they started to think it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>so much fun. Mom only cared about the YouTube channel.

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<v Speaker 1>They felt used, like Mom was only using them for

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<v Speaker 1>the YouTube channel. I think the thing about this documentary

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<v Speaker 1>that makes it so compelling is that it does have

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<v Speaker 1>all of that footage that you did not see if

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<v Speaker 1>you paid attention to her channel, where it was all

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<v Speaker 1>about how great of a mom she was. This is

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<v Speaker 1>the uncut footage where she is yelling at her kids.

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<v Speaker 1>She's telling them to pretend that they're happy. It's child

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<v Speaker 1>abuse in the form of a vlog. They say it's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most notorious recent depictions of child abuse,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is stunning. Things went to hell when she

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<v Speaker 1>got hooked up with another bad person in the form

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<v Speaker 1>of Jody Hildebrant, who was a therapist in the Mormon

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<v Speaker 1>community at the time, and she would have these different

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<v Speaker 1>cult like classes, one for women, one for men about

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<v Speaker 1>how to be a good wife, for how to be

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<v Speaker 1>a good husband. You can kind of see how those

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<v Speaker 1>seems to have been completely manipulated by this woman and

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<v Speaker 1>brings her into the home and has her therapies her children,

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<v Speaker 1>and this woman just is able to get into the

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<v Speaker 1>brains of the family, the husband, the wife, the kids,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole bit, and it ends with extreme punishment for

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<v Speaker 1>the kids that remained. The two older kids were out

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<v Speaker 1>of the house and basically excommunicated from the family for

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<v Speaker 1>just growing older, not wanting to play along, calling out

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<v Speaker 1>questions maybe of what was going on in that home.

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<v Speaker 1>And so these four younger kids were left with this

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<v Speaker 1>crazy mom and her crazy friend. They may have been

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<v Speaker 1>in a relationship too, but it ended with these kids

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<v Speaker 1>being malnourished and left in dark rooms and not taken

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<v Speaker 1>care of. And it just was even made worse by

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<v Speaker 1>COVID where they fell into their religion more believed it

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<v Speaker 1>was the second Coming End of Days type stuff they're hoarding. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>It is a ride if you want to check it out,

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<v Speaker 1>The Devil and the Family, The Fall of Ruby Frankie.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a true crime juggernaut there on Hulu. We

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<v Speaker 1>are not sponsoring Hulu, but hell, that is a good

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<v Speaker 1>docu series. Three parts. We will see you tomorrow again,

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<v Speaker 1>John Cobalt coming up next. You will have everything all

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<v Speaker 1>the details on La City Council. Remember kfi's Michael Monks

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<v Speaker 1>has been in the room since it began and can

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<v Speaker 1>break down all of the drama right here on KFI.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see Manyana, stay dry and blessings.

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<v Speaker 2>You've been listening to the Gary and Shannon Show.

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