WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.520 --> 00:00:06.040 It's Night Side with Dan Ray w BZ Constance New Radio. 2 00:00:06.639 --> 00:00:11.880 All right, welcome back everybody, as we talk about something 3 00:00:11.919 --> 00:00:15.279 that should be of concern to everyone, uh and that 4 00:00:15.439 --> 00:00:19.800 is what's going on here, not only in Massachusetts, but 5 00:00:20.640 --> 00:00:28.600 throughout New England. We've had an annual outbreak of a 6 00:00:28.640 --> 00:00:33.640 couple of mosquito borne illnesses west now virus and also 7 00:00:34.960 --> 00:00:40.840 Eastern equine encephalitis also known as tripoli. Delighted to be 8 00:00:40.960 --> 00:00:44.719 joined this hour by doctor Catherine Brown, who is with 9 00:00:45.359 --> 00:00:50.640 the Colnwealth of Massachusetts Department of Public Health, and she 10 00:00:52.359 --> 00:00:57.119 is a veterinarian and UH an epidemiologist. And I believe 11 00:00:57.320 --> 00:01:00.200 doctor Brown, that you have spent some of to night 12 00:01:00.280 --> 00:01:04.519 don at Plymouth where some prophylactic spraying has been going 13 00:01:04.560 --> 00:01:06.200 on to try to get rid of some of these 14 00:01:07.000 --> 00:01:10.079 mosquitoes that are potentially or infected. Good evening, Thanks for 15 00:01:10.200 --> 00:01:11.200 joining us. 16 00:01:11.959 --> 00:01:15.280 Yeah, good evening, and thanks so much for the invitation. Yeah, 17 00:01:15.280 --> 00:01:18.359 I've spent some time down here in Plymouth this evening 18 00:01:19.439 --> 00:01:23.280 hanging out with some of the other folks from the 19 00:01:23.319 --> 00:01:27.239 Commonwealth of Massachusetts who are working on making sure that 20 00:01:28.000 --> 00:01:32.959 we are conducting some aerial spraying to help reduce the 21 00:01:33.079 --> 00:01:36.079 risk from triple E here in the state. 22 00:01:37.120 --> 00:01:43.000 So how are these diseases related and how are they different? 23 00:01:43.120 --> 00:01:47.680 I mean, they're both mosquito born diseases. It seems to 24 00:01:47.719 --> 00:01:49.840 me that we never get a break around this time 25 00:01:49.879 --> 00:01:54.319 of year. Late August early September there's an outbreak. We 26 00:01:54.879 --> 00:01:58.200 lost a gentleman by the name of I guess Stephen 27 00:01:58.280 --> 00:02:02.799 Perry from Hampstead, New I'm sure sixty years of age 28 00:02:04.239 --> 00:02:10.319 passed away from triple E. And yet there's also additional 29 00:02:10.360 --> 00:02:13.280 cases tonight I understand from the Massachuset Department of Public 30 00:02:13.360 --> 00:02:17.520 Health of West now virus to additional human cases which 31 00:02:17.560 --> 00:02:21.360 bring the number of total cases to four. Both of 32 00:02:21.400 --> 00:02:24.520 them are men in their sixties, one exposed in Suffolk County, 33 00:02:24.560 --> 00:02:30.879 also another in Norfolk County. This sadly is something we 34 00:02:31.000 --> 00:02:34.639 deal with on an annual basis. What's the cause and 35 00:02:35.479 --> 00:02:37.879 there is this something that we're going to deal with 36 00:02:37.919 --> 00:02:43.199 forever because it's just something that is within our region, 37 00:02:43.439 --> 00:02:44.800 never to be eradicated. 38 00:02:46.159 --> 00:02:46.360 Yeah. 39 00:02:46.639 --> 00:02:50.039 Still, I mean, I appreciate you sort of making this 40 00:02:50.439 --> 00:02:54.919 personal and reminding us about the really the human costs 41 00:02:54.919 --> 00:02:58.479 that can come with these infections. And you're right also 42 00:02:58.520 --> 00:03:01.400 that we just can't seem to catch a break. So 43 00:03:01.520 --> 00:03:05.240 this is the peak time in the New England area 44 00:03:05.479 --> 00:03:10.280 for transmission of both of these mosquito born diseases to people. 45 00:03:10.800 --> 00:03:15.159 So the similarities are that these are both viruses that 46 00:03:15.199 --> 00:03:19.280 are originally carried in birds, different kinds of birds, but 47 00:03:20.800 --> 00:03:24.080 they're both bird viruses, and then they are spread between 48 00:03:24.159 --> 00:03:28.560 birds by mosquitoes and then also can be transmitted you know, 49 00:03:28.840 --> 00:03:34.240 from birds to humans by mosquitoes as well. So I 50 00:03:34.280 --> 00:03:37.479 think one of the differences is that West Nile virus 51 00:03:37.719 --> 00:03:40.960 is still relatively new to the US, right It was 52 00:03:41.000 --> 00:03:44.080 introduced in about nineteen ninety nine, and we've been dealing 53 00:03:44.120 --> 00:03:47.520 with it since then, and that really does seem to 54 00:03:47.560 --> 00:03:53.479 be an annual reality. We see cases in Massachusetts and 55 00:03:53.479 --> 00:03:57.319 throughout the country every single year. Tripoli is a little 56 00:03:57.319 --> 00:04:02.360 bit different, so it doesn't occur everywhere in the United States. 57 00:04:02.919 --> 00:04:06.719 Massachusetts that's unfortunately a little bit special when it comes 58 00:04:06.800 --> 00:04:09.800 to Tripoli. We have a long history with this virus, 59 00:04:10.919 --> 00:04:14.680 and what happens is that we'll see outbreak cycles, so 60 00:04:15.319 --> 00:04:17.480 you know, a couple of years in a row where 61 00:04:17.519 --> 00:04:21.360 we'll see pretty significant activity and then it will cool 62 00:04:21.399 --> 00:04:24.279 off and kind of go away for a few years 63 00:04:24.439 --> 00:04:27.399 and then it comes comes roaring back. And so this 64 00:04:27.480 --> 00:04:31.439 is one of our we think outbreak years. And unfortunately 65 00:04:31.480 --> 00:04:35.199 it's also now hitting other states, not just Massachusetts. 66 00:04:35.920 --> 00:04:39.759 So birds are involved in this. All of us have 67 00:04:39.839 --> 00:04:43.319 heard of the avian flu and some of the bird 68 00:04:43.480 --> 00:04:49.399 born viruses. Is that what makes it so dangerous to humans? 69 00:04:49.600 --> 00:04:51.839 I mean all of us have at times been bitten 70 00:04:51.879 --> 00:04:55.800 by a mosquito. It's aggravating, it's inconvenient, and it can 71 00:04:55.839 --> 00:05:00.120 be uncomfortable, but it's not life threatening. Is it the 72 00:05:01.199 --> 00:05:05.079 introduction of whatever the mosquitoes extract from the birds, from 73 00:05:05.079 --> 00:05:10.839 these sick birds, that that actually causes such serious consequences. 74 00:05:12.120 --> 00:05:17.000 Well, so, I mean, while the birds may serve as 75 00:05:17.079 --> 00:05:22.800 a reservoir for the virus, it's actually it's there are 76 00:05:23.240 --> 00:05:28.160 it's actually intrinsic to the virus. How it causes injury 77 00:05:28.199 --> 00:05:31.040 to people. Right, So, once the virus gets either of 78 00:05:31.079 --> 00:05:36.800 these viruses get injected into us by a mosquito bite. 79 00:05:37.399 --> 00:05:43.160 These viruses have a particular predilection for the nervous tissue 80 00:05:43.319 --> 00:05:46.680 in humans, particularly the central nervous system, so like the 81 00:05:46.720 --> 00:05:49.600 brain and the spinal cord. And the fact that those 82 00:05:49.720 --> 00:05:54.360 viruses kind of attack those types of tissues in our 83 00:05:54.360 --> 00:05:58.639 body is what can make these diseases so serious. So 84 00:05:58.680 --> 00:06:01.560 it's not really the fact that the bird carries them. 85 00:06:01.720 --> 00:06:06.879 It's something that's intrinsic to the virus itself, the viruses themselves. 86 00:06:08.040 --> 00:06:10.360 I'm not a doctor, nor will I play one on radio, 87 00:06:10.399 --> 00:06:13.480 but this almost sounds to me like some a virus 88 00:06:13.480 --> 00:06:17.600 that is fairly close similar to meningitis. Am I far 89 00:06:17.720 --> 00:06:18.639 off on that? Doctor? 90 00:06:19.759 --> 00:06:23.120 Yeah, So meningitis, believe it or not, is actually a 91 00:06:23.160 --> 00:06:28.079 description of a symptom, right. It's inflammation of a part 92 00:06:28.120 --> 00:06:32.720 of the brain, and that is something that these viruses 93 00:06:32.879 --> 00:06:37.279 can cause. They can cause inflammation of the tissue that 94 00:06:37.399 --> 00:06:40.959 surrounds the brain, which is meningitis, or they can actually 95 00:06:41.079 --> 00:06:46.120 cause inflammation of the brain itself, and that's encephalitis, and 96 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:49.759 that's where that name Eastern equine encephalitis comes from. 97 00:06:50.120 --> 00:06:56.199 And there's also spinal mingitis meningitis. I believe That's why 98 00:06:56.439 --> 00:06:59.600 I'm just sort of asking you, because everyone understands that 99 00:06:59.800 --> 00:07:04.199 is a serious, uh serious disease. So look, I know 100 00:07:04.360 --> 00:07:08.360 that the precautions that can be taken, uh should be 101 00:07:08.399 --> 00:07:12.079 taken by everyone, which is obviously you know them better 102 00:07:12.120 --> 00:07:17.839 than me. But it's staying indoors when possible, particularly from 103 00:07:17.920 --> 00:07:22.120 dawn to dusk and uh and and wearing clothes that 104 00:07:22.199 --> 00:07:25.480 do really cover up and and don't you know, avoid 105 00:07:25.720 --> 00:07:28.920 being out. A lot of towns have I guess closed 106 00:07:28.959 --> 00:07:33.000 some outdoor sports activities and there's some controversy about that. 107 00:07:33.800 --> 00:07:37.920 Uh is the spring safe? I know that there's always 108 00:07:37.959 --> 00:07:40.680 people who are concerned about any sort of aerial or 109 00:07:40.680 --> 00:07:45.000 ground spring in their neighborhood. Are we pretty sure that 110 00:07:45.639 --> 00:07:49.759 the the solution is not worth worse than the problem? 111 00:07:51.399 --> 00:07:51.639 Yeah? 112 00:07:51.800 --> 00:07:54.399 You know, I want to make sure that people understand 113 00:07:54.439 --> 00:07:58.600 that there's really a layered prevention strategy here, right, and 114 00:07:58.639 --> 00:08:03.399 so the spraying that opening, you know, starting tonight is 115 00:08:03.480 --> 00:08:08.839 really kind of almost the last tool in the toolbox. Right. 116 00:08:09.240 --> 00:08:12.040 So the first thing that I want people to know 117 00:08:12.319 --> 00:08:14.519 is that at this time of year in Massachusetts, you 118 00:08:14.560 --> 00:08:18.639 should always be wearing mosquito repellent anytime you're outdoors, right, 119 00:08:19.120 --> 00:08:22.040 Just just make it a habitat, a habitat, make it 120 00:08:22.120 --> 00:08:26.000 a habit and then then you can also use, as 121 00:08:26.040 --> 00:08:29.360 you said, lung sleaves, long pants to reduce exposed skin. 122 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:34.720 You know, this recommendation about avoiding outer activity between dusk 123 00:08:34.759 --> 00:08:40.200 and dawn is really we reserve that primarily for the 124 00:08:40.240 --> 00:08:44.159 parts of the state where Tripoli is at very high risk. 125 00:08:44.559 --> 00:08:48.519 We're not making a blanket recommendation about that. It's really 126 00:08:48.559 --> 00:08:49.799 where Tripoli is. 127 00:08:51.399 --> 00:08:52.879 The risk is the greatest. 128 00:08:54.120 --> 00:08:57.639 And then so people should do that no matter what 129 00:08:57.799 --> 00:09:02.279 else is happening. And then because we have seen that, 130 00:09:02.639 --> 00:09:07.279 you know, despite everybody's best efforts, that we're still continuing 131 00:09:07.320 --> 00:09:12.440 to see risk from Tripoli persist at this time of year. 132 00:09:13.039 --> 00:09:18.360 You know, the spring is an adjunct to help people 133 00:09:18.559 --> 00:09:23.840 keep sorry, help keep people safe. In Massachusetts, we use 134 00:09:23.919 --> 00:09:26.759 products that are approved for this purpose, and they are 135 00:09:26.799 --> 00:09:31.919 applied by specialists and used only the way they're intended. 136 00:09:32.080 --> 00:09:34.720 And so as long as that is true, then we 137 00:09:34.799 --> 00:09:39.519 should be killing more mosquitoes than doing any other harm. 138 00:09:40.360 --> 00:09:43.200 And my understanding is that the mosquitoes are not going 139 00:09:43.240 --> 00:09:45.679 to leave us until the first frost, which can be 140 00:09:45.759 --> 00:09:49.480 sometime in late October early November. So this problem is 141 00:09:49.519 --> 00:09:50.919 going to be around for a while and we need 142 00:09:50.960 --> 00:09:51.559 to be aware of. 143 00:09:51.480 --> 00:09:54.679 It correct exactly exactly. 144 00:09:54.759 --> 00:09:57.799 But there's also relatively simple things that people can do 145 00:09:57.879 --> 00:10:00.759 to help protect themselves. And so I don't want people 146 00:10:00.799 --> 00:10:04.360 to huddle indoors and never go out and get exercise 147 00:10:05.080 --> 00:10:08.039 and enjoy this beautiful state of ours. But but it is 148 00:10:08.080 --> 00:10:11.080 something to be aware of and just remember to take 149 00:10:11.159 --> 00:10:12.519 steps to protect yourself. 150 00:10:13.200 --> 00:10:15.440 All right, Well, well, doctor Catherine Brown, thank you very 151 00:10:15.519 --> 00:10:19.919 much for being with us tonight. This is this important 152 00:10:20.000 --> 00:10:23.639 and it's it's a it's a dangerous set of circumstances. 153 00:10:23.679 --> 00:10:27.679 My final question is between the outbreak that we've seen 154 00:10:27.759 --> 00:10:30.480 so far West now virus in one hand and triple 155 00:10:30.519 --> 00:10:35.120 E on the other, are they comparable? I mean, we 156 00:10:35.240 --> 00:10:38.720 want to prevent mosquitoes from getting at us, I get it. 157 00:10:38.799 --> 00:10:41.799 But are you more concerned about the outbreak of one 158 00:10:41.879 --> 00:10:44.120 or the other or do you see this of these 159 00:10:44.159 --> 00:10:48.440 two separate but related outbreaks as a pretty similar in 160 00:10:48.840 --> 00:10:50.799 terms of their seriousness this year? 161 00:10:52.360 --> 00:10:54.159 You know? There they are. 162 00:10:54.519 --> 00:10:59.960 They're similar but different West virus. We almost always see 163 00:11:00.120 --> 00:11:03.639 more cases of West non virus than we do of tripoli, 164 00:11:03.799 --> 00:11:07.080 and so more people will be impacted by it. But 165 00:11:07.200 --> 00:11:10.080 I will also say that the illness that triple E 166 00:11:10.200 --> 00:11:14.639 causes is usually more severe than the illness that West 167 00:11:14.679 --> 00:11:20.080 nonvirus causes, and so the impact on the individual and 168 00:11:20.519 --> 00:11:23.799 the family and loved ones is more significant. 169 00:11:24.519 --> 00:11:27.320 All right, I really thank you for your time tonight 170 00:11:27.320 --> 00:11:28.879 and spent a long day for you, and I thank 171 00:11:28.919 --> 00:11:32.279 you for the clarity of your explanation. I think people 172 00:11:32.399 --> 00:11:36.919 now understand it much better than they would have before 173 00:11:36.960 --> 00:11:38.600 your time with us tonight. Thank you so much for 174 00:11:38.639 --> 00:11:42.840 having joined us. Doctor Catherine Brown, an epidemiologist and veternarian 175 00:11:42.879 --> 00:11:45.919 with the Massachusetts Department of Public Health. Thanks again, doctor. 176 00:11:45.679 --> 00:11:49.559 Brown, thanks for the invitation. You have a good evening you. 177 00:11:49.559 --> 00:11:51.759 Too as well. All Right, we get back. I'd like 178 00:11:51.799 --> 00:11:54.240 to talk about this. What precautions are you taking? And 179 00:11:54.320 --> 00:11:56.840 I know that there are certain towns that are impacted 180 00:11:56.960 --> 00:12:02.039 more than others. It's it's just so to me, so interesting. 181 00:12:02.080 --> 00:12:06.279 It's almost like the common cold. We do a lot 182 00:12:06.320 --> 00:12:11.000 of research on some of the really extraordinary diseases that 183 00:12:11.159 --> 00:12:15.799 all of us when we hear of, we're very concerned. 184 00:12:16.000 --> 00:12:19.559 We talked with Rich Kennedy about als last hour, Parkins's disease. 185 00:12:19.639 --> 00:12:24.480 There's several of those that are devastating, but for someone 186 00:12:24.519 --> 00:12:27.879 who's bitten by one of these mosquitos, it's equally devastating. 187 00:12:27.960 --> 00:12:33.240 And there aren't too many things in New England, in 188 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:37.919 our region that we need to worry about of a 189 00:12:38.039 --> 00:12:40.559 massive nature. We get blizzards in the winter time, but 190 00:12:40.840 --> 00:12:45.519 we tend not to get the devastating tornadoes of the Midwest, 191 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:52.080 the hurricanes that hit Florida in the southeastern United States. 192 00:12:52.320 --> 00:12:55.120 But this is a problem, and this is a real problem. 193 00:12:55.120 --> 00:12:57.720 It continues to be a problem. I just like to 194 00:12:58.039 --> 00:13:00.639 open up the conversation and some of you I may 195 00:13:00.679 --> 00:13:04.960 have some some remedies or some ways in which you 196 00:13:05.639 --> 00:13:08.480 keep your family safe and keep yourself safe. I'd like 197 00:13:08.519 --> 00:13:11.399 to share them here this hour six one, seven, two, five, 198 00:13:11.440 --> 00:13:14.200 four to ten thirty six one seven, nine three one 199 00:13:14.480 --> 00:13:17.720 ten thirty. Uh. If you are someone who is concerned 200 00:13:17.759 --> 00:13:21.000 about spraying, I'm not an expert in this, but I 201 00:13:21.480 --> 00:13:25.440 trust the Department of Public Health officials in Massachusetts that 202 00:13:25.480 --> 00:13:29.200 the spraying is not going to be the cure worse 203 00:13:29.279 --> 00:13:32.559 than the problem, or worse than the cause. So you 204 00:13:32.600 --> 00:13:34.519 have the numbers, Let's open up the phone lines, and 205 00:13:34.879 --> 00:13:37.840 let's talk about it here on a screened in North 206 00:13:37.840 --> 00:13:40.720 America's back porch. Just it's safe to call, it's safe 207 00:13:40.720 --> 00:13:41.080 to talk. 208 00:13:41.720 --> 00:13:41.840 Uh. 209 00:13:42.080 --> 00:13:45.159 We have a screened in back porch, metaphorical screened in 210 00:13:45.279 --> 00:13:47.600 back porch six one, seven, two five four to ten 211 00:13:47.679 --> 00:13:50.360 thirty six, one seven, nine, three, one ten thirty be 212 00:13:50.519 --> 00:13:52.759 right back on Nightside. Feel free to join the conversation, 213 00:13:52.840 --> 00:13:55.039 particularly if you're never called, or if you have a 214 00:13:55.120 --> 00:13:57.720 knowledge or an expertise in this area, feel free to 215 00:13:57.759 --> 00:13:59.600 contribute to the to our conversation. 216 00:14:00.600 --> 00:14:03.559 Now back to Dan Ray Line from the Window World 217 00:14:03.720 --> 00:14:06.840 night Side Studios on WBZ, the news radio. 218 00:14:07.200 --> 00:14:09.159 All right, let's I think we're going to get a 219 00:14:09.159 --> 00:14:13.519 lot of different points of view here and different recommendations 220 00:14:13.559 --> 00:14:16.879 and help. As I say, this is North America's back porch, 221 00:14:16.960 --> 00:14:19.120 but this is a night when we are on a 222 00:14:19.159 --> 00:14:22.000 screened in back porch, so there's no danger to mosquitos. 223 00:14:22.080 --> 00:14:23.919 If you're with us here on the air. Let me 224 00:14:23.960 --> 00:14:27.799 go to Henry, who is in Weston, Massachusetts, the town 225 00:14:27.879 --> 00:14:30.960 of Western not the section of the Calm Wealth. Hi, Henry, 226 00:14:31.000 --> 00:14:37.200 thanks for calling in. Hello, Hello Henry, welcome to night Side. 227 00:14:37.240 --> 00:14:41.879 You're on the air, Dan, Yes, sir, Henry, this is 228 00:14:41.960 --> 00:14:44.320 Dan Ray WBZ Nightside. You are on the air. 229 00:14:44.360 --> 00:14:47.840 Go right ahead, Dan. I wanted to ask your guests, 230 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:54.080 your earlier guest, what is the relationship between the mosquito 231 00:14:55.679 --> 00:15:00.519 and the horse and the red wing blackbird and the 232 00:15:00.559 --> 00:15:05.440 pheasants and any other birds that may be in that chain. 233 00:15:07.480 --> 00:15:11.480 And that's my first question. My second question is when 234 00:15:11.519 --> 00:15:18.720 you report that communities are spraying, what are they spraying? 235 00:15:19.039 --> 00:15:20.039 What's the chemical? 236 00:15:20.759 --> 00:15:24.159 Okay, well, Henry, I wish that doctor Brown was with us, 237 00:15:24.200 --> 00:15:26.879 because she had had a long day. We agreed to 238 00:15:26.879 --> 00:15:32.320 simply do the interview, and I did not ask either 239 00:15:32.360 --> 00:15:37.000 of those questions. Obviously, it's called Eastern equine encephalitis, and 240 00:15:37.039 --> 00:15:40.919 the implication would be there that somehow horses might be involved. 241 00:15:41.200 --> 00:15:47.200 What she said was that different species of bird carry 242 00:15:47.320 --> 00:15:53.759 the the what is injected by the mosquito. The mosquito 243 00:15:53.840 --> 00:15:57.639 basically extracts that from the bird, and then the mosquito 244 00:16:00.200 --> 00:16:02.440 things you were me or bites you were me. 245 00:16:02.559 --> 00:16:06.679 I should say, question, Dan, let me finish, just if. 246 00:16:06.639 --> 00:16:08.480 I could, Henry, if you don't mind, And so she 247 00:16:08.600 --> 00:16:12.639 seemed to say that it was primarily birds to mosquitoes 248 00:16:12.919 --> 00:16:17.519 to humans, and the mosquito was simply a carrier of 249 00:16:17.559 --> 00:16:23.240 the element which causes the the reaction in our human bodies. 250 00:16:23.559 --> 00:16:28.240 She did not mention horses, although obviously Eastern ech wine 251 00:16:28.320 --> 00:16:32.279 encephalitis would seem to suggest that horses will also would 252 00:16:32.279 --> 00:16:33.960 have been involved in that go ahead. That's the best 253 00:16:34.360 --> 00:16:36.399 I could do for you in the absence of doctor Brown. 254 00:16:36.440 --> 00:16:38.799 That's what trying to paraphrase what she had said to us. 255 00:16:39.960 --> 00:16:43.159 No, you're exactly right, and that's exactly what it implies. 256 00:16:44.320 --> 00:16:48.600 But there are other birds in that chain that can 257 00:16:48.679 --> 00:16:51.639 be a transmitter through the mosquito. 258 00:16:53.320 --> 00:16:53.639 Okay. 259 00:16:53.720 --> 00:16:59.799 And and my second part is what are they spraying? 260 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:01.720 What's the chemical or spraying? 261 00:17:02.960 --> 00:17:05.279 I don't know. I didn't ask her. I simply asked 262 00:17:05.279 --> 00:17:09.200 her if she was certain that the chemicals that were 263 00:17:09.240 --> 00:17:13.680 being used were safe, and she seemed to be very 264 00:17:13.720 --> 00:17:16.200 confident that they were safe. I know that they used 265 00:17:16.200 --> 00:17:19.160 to think use things like dd E and DDT or 266 00:17:19.160 --> 00:17:24.200 whatever dat. But my understanding is that after all of 267 00:17:24.240 --> 00:17:27.519 the outrage that people have expressed at different times, and 268 00:17:27.559 --> 00:17:30.319 there's still some people, I'm sure who are very concerned 269 00:17:30.319 --> 00:17:32.640 when they see her here a playing go overhead with 270 00:17:32.680 --> 00:17:37.839 aerial spring. I didn't challenge her on that. No would 271 00:17:37.880 --> 00:17:40.160 have I challenged her on that because I think that, again, 272 00:17:40.480 --> 00:17:43.519 she was the medical expert, as a veterinarian, as an 273 00:17:43.559 --> 00:17:47.680 epidemiologist who the Apartment of Public Health provided us Tonight. 274 00:17:48.160 --> 00:17:51.839 My lifetime goes quite a bit further than what you mentioned. 275 00:17:51.880 --> 00:17:56.039 In terms of chemicals, I won't mention them, but I'm 276 00:17:56.079 --> 00:18:00.759 sure they're a band today. But in terms of transparency, 277 00:18:01.400 --> 00:18:05.000 I think the Department of Public Health should tell people 278 00:18:05.079 --> 00:18:05.799 what they're spraying. 279 00:18:06.400 --> 00:18:08.200 Yeah, And I got to be honest with you on 280 00:18:08.759 --> 00:18:11.440 if I had held her over to take questions, and 281 00:18:11.480 --> 00:18:14.440 we we were, you know, basically told in a polite 282 00:18:14.480 --> 00:18:16.480 fashion that she could give us ten or twelve minutes, 283 00:18:16.519 --> 00:18:21.519 which we used. And if she had been here, I'm 284 00:18:21.559 --> 00:18:23.519 sure she would have tried to answer those questions if 285 00:18:23.599 --> 00:18:27.319 she knew. But do you happen to know by any chance? 286 00:18:27.400 --> 00:18:29.960 You seem to me to be someone. First of all, 287 00:18:30.039 --> 00:18:32.119 I think you're a first time caller, correct. 288 00:18:33.160 --> 00:18:33.960 That is correct? 289 00:18:34.000 --> 00:18:35.440 Well, first of all, you give me one of our 290 00:18:35.480 --> 00:18:37.319 cause your first time call. With that very much. It's 291 00:18:37.319 --> 00:18:40.319 always amazing to me what subjects induced people to call 292 00:18:40.400 --> 00:18:44.160 for the first time. But I suspect that you probably 293 00:18:44.240 --> 00:18:46.680 know more about this subject than I do. So let 294 00:18:46.720 --> 00:18:52.440 me ask you. Are you confident that what is being sprayed? 295 00:18:52.480 --> 00:18:55.759 And I don't know if Weston has been sprayed or not, 296 00:18:56.559 --> 00:18:59.799 you might know that. Are you confident that with all 297 00:18:59.839 --> 00:19:03.200 of the rules and Regulations and the Department of Environmental 298 00:19:03.200 --> 00:19:08.640 Protection and the State Department of Environmental Protection, the Environmental 299 00:19:08.640 --> 00:19:13.200 Protection Administration in Washington. Are you pretty convinced that this 300 00:19:13.240 --> 00:19:16.279 sort of spraying is probably being done as safely as 301 00:19:16.319 --> 00:19:18.599 possible or are you someone who's concerned. 302 00:19:19.519 --> 00:19:22.480 No, I have to say yes. I have a lot 303 00:19:22.480 --> 00:19:26.519 of history with the Department of Public Health, but I 304 00:19:26.559 --> 00:19:29.599 cannot believe the Department of Public Health would put forward 305 00:19:31.200 --> 00:19:37.440 the advance of spraying in this fashion without being fully 306 00:19:37.480 --> 00:19:39.039 confident that it is safe. 307 00:19:39.240 --> 00:19:41.920 Good. Well, I'm glad to hear you say that, because 308 00:19:41.960 --> 00:19:44.440 I'm sure that you could have answered it differently, and 309 00:19:44.480 --> 00:19:48.400 I'm not looking. My purpose tonight was not to inspire, 310 00:19:49.240 --> 00:19:53.160 you know, panic or apprehension, but to provide information. And 311 00:19:53.200 --> 00:19:56.240 you've contributed to the conversation. And I welcome you to 312 00:19:56.720 --> 00:20:00.279 North America's Screendon Virtual Backporch, and I hope you come 313 00:20:00.319 --> 00:20:02.319 back soon. Thank you, Henry h. 314 00:20:02.440 --> 00:20:06.000 Miss thank you very much. If I cry again, it's 315 00:20:06.039 --> 00:20:09.759 my first time, but it'll always be my intention to 316 00:20:09.839 --> 00:20:13.039 be very kind to you and your guests. 317 00:20:13.359 --> 00:20:15.279 Yep, No, I'm sure you are. You're a gentleman, and 318 00:20:15.279 --> 00:20:16.799 I appreciate it very much. And I hope you do 319 00:20:16.880 --> 00:20:20.079 call again. We always love to incorporate new callers into 320 00:20:20.079 --> 00:20:22.680 the program. Thank you, very thank you again. I'm very 321 00:20:22.720 --> 00:20:24.319 familiar with West and I have a lot of friends 322 00:20:24.319 --> 00:20:26.240 who live out there. Thanks again. We're going to take 323 00:20:26.279 --> 00:20:28.160 a quick break if you'd like to join the conversation. 324 00:20:28.240 --> 00:20:30.039 I got one line at six one, seven, two, five, 325 00:20:30.079 --> 00:20:32.160 four to ten thirty, and I got one line at 326 00:20:32.200 --> 00:20:35.279 six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. Feel free 327 00:20:35.319 --> 00:20:38.599 to raise issues. I'm not an expert in this area, 328 00:20:39.680 --> 00:20:42.759 but I do think that doctor Brown provided some very 329 00:20:43.160 --> 00:20:45.880 good information. I have some information here. If any of 330 00:20:45.920 --> 00:20:50.400 you ask me questions that I can answer definitively, I will. 331 00:20:50.920 --> 00:20:55.400 But I do not play a doctor on radio. And 332 00:20:56.240 --> 00:20:59.079 when I don't know the answer, I'm honest enough to 333 00:20:59.119 --> 00:21:01.559 tell you I don't know the answer. Back on Nightside, 334 00:21:01.599 --> 00:21:03.319 here comes the news break at the bottom of the art. 335 00:21:03.359 --> 00:21:04.720 It's about nine thirty two right. 336 00:21:04.640 --> 00:21:11.359 Now, Night Side with Dan Ray. I'm Boston's News Radio. 337 00:21:12.079 --> 00:21:17.160 We're talking about West Nile virus and triple e Eastern 338 00:21:17.240 --> 00:21:25.119 equine encephalitis mosquito born illnesses that can kill you. Certainly 339 00:21:25.240 --> 00:21:28.119 triple ly is, as we learn from doctor Brown. The 340 00:21:28.160 --> 00:21:33.880 more dangerous of those diseases. Any precaution that you take, 341 00:21:33.960 --> 00:21:36.680 and I have gone through the precautions that are being 342 00:21:36.759 --> 00:21:40.599 recommended about, you know, avoiding mosquito bites, which means you 343 00:21:40.599 --> 00:21:46.119 will avoid mosquitoes when you can apply insect repellent when 344 00:21:46.160 --> 00:21:50.319 you go outdoors. Also be aware of the peak hours 345 00:21:50.559 --> 00:21:54.200 when mosquitoes are active from dusk to dawn. And also 346 00:21:54.799 --> 00:21:59.039 you wear long sleeves, long pants, socks when outdoors. I 347 00:21:59.039 --> 00:22:03.640 mean common sense efforts I think to keep mosquitos away 348 00:22:03.640 --> 00:22:06.920 from your skin. Also, drain any standing water. A lot 349 00:22:06.920 --> 00:22:09.440 of time we have standing water in our backyard. You 350 00:22:09.480 --> 00:22:12.359 may have a bucket in the backyard and had some 351 00:22:12.480 --> 00:22:16.160 rain lately. Tomorrow I'm going to go through my backyard 352 00:22:16.200 --> 00:22:19.240 and find some areas that I can just drain, and 353 00:22:19.359 --> 00:22:22.319 of course always install a repair screens. Now we're on 354 00:22:22.440 --> 00:22:25.039 North America's Virtual back Porch as we have called this 355 00:22:25.119 --> 00:22:28.359 program since its inception in two thousand and seven, and 356 00:22:28.400 --> 00:22:30.559 it is a screened in port, so it's safe to call. 357 00:22:30.880 --> 00:22:33.240 There were no mosquitos that will bite you. Let me 358 00:22:33.319 --> 00:22:37.640 go next to Floyd in Ohio. Floyd, haven't heard from 359 00:22:37.680 --> 00:22:39.240 you in a while? Welcome back, How are. 360 00:22:39.160 --> 00:22:42.920 You hi, Dad, I've been busy. I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm back. 361 00:22:42.960 --> 00:22:45.119 I'm glad you've been busy. I hope everything's going well. 362 00:22:46.920 --> 00:22:48.400 Busy good, you know. 363 00:22:49.519 --> 00:22:51.640 Well, I hope it's a good busy, not a bad busy, 364 00:22:51.680 --> 00:22:52.519 is what I was trying to say. 365 00:22:53.519 --> 00:22:56.000 Good. Yeah, good and bad. That's how life goes anyway. 366 00:22:56.200 --> 00:23:00.799 It's called material safety data sheet. Material safety data that's 367 00:23:00.839 --> 00:23:02.880 what So the town's spraying a. 368 00:23:02.759 --> 00:23:06.720 Certain chemical, or they're even a paint they're painting the 369 00:23:06.799 --> 00:23:09.240 road with or whatever, the lines of the road, all 370 00:23:09.319 --> 00:23:12.960 those chemicals, all those paints, it's called materials safety data sheet. 371 00:23:13.240 --> 00:23:14.720 The town, by law. 372 00:23:14.799 --> 00:23:17.440 Have to provide you with that information, and you go 373 00:23:17.519 --> 00:23:19.880 through that list and you can find out what is 374 00:23:19.920 --> 00:23:22.960 in those chemicals, exposure, how to dispose of it, that 375 00:23:23.079 --> 00:23:24.480 sort of thing. So if we want to know what 376 00:23:24.519 --> 00:23:26.839 they're spraying and what's in it and it's harmful for you, 377 00:23:27.279 --> 00:23:30.240 and then how to avoid it, it's in that material 378 00:23:30.319 --> 00:23:31.559 safety data sheet. 379 00:23:31.839 --> 00:23:35.759 Okay, So now is that something that is unique to 380 00:23:35.839 --> 00:23:37.359 Ohio or is that something. 381 00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:39.640 No federal, it's federal everything. 382 00:23:39.799 --> 00:23:43.759 Gasoline has it material safety DASHT. I think it might 383 00:23:43.799 --> 00:23:47.440 be saving a little backwards. You know, so like if 384 00:23:47.480 --> 00:23:51.359 I if I'm a landscaper, If I'm a landscaper and 385 00:23:51.440 --> 00:23:54.920 I'm putting a fertilizer on your lawn, right, that fertilizer 386 00:23:54.960 --> 00:23:57.240 has a data sheet, So what's in it and what 387 00:23:57.319 --> 00:23:59.720 the exposure is and how does the dispose of it 388 00:24:00.119 --> 00:24:01.680 and that toxic So. 389 00:24:01.920 --> 00:24:07.000 What you're saying is anyone who wants to check with 390 00:24:07.079 --> 00:24:10.599 their town hall as to if this spring is going 391 00:24:10.640 --> 00:24:12.480 on in their town hall, or if any sort of 392 00:24:12.519 --> 00:24:15.559 activity related to this or anything else, they can ask 393 00:24:15.599 --> 00:24:18.720 for a material safety data sheet. And then of course 394 00:24:18.759 --> 00:24:20.680 they probably have to do their own research and figure 395 00:24:20.680 --> 00:24:24.400 out what that particular chemical does or doesn't do. But 396 00:24:24.480 --> 00:24:26.480 at least it's it's a starting point for. 397 00:24:26.559 --> 00:24:27.359 To get information. 398 00:24:27.440 --> 00:24:28.599 Floyd, thank you for that. 399 00:24:28.599 --> 00:24:31.599 That piece of it's in the public domain, you know, 400 00:24:31.720 --> 00:24:34.119 I mean the town it's federal. 401 00:24:34.160 --> 00:24:38.720