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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to kf

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<v Speaker 1>I AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on

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<v Speaker 1>demand on the iHeartRadio app. Marla and Mark for Gary

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<v Speaker 1>and Shannon, who come back next week. But in the

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<v Speaker 1>earliest hours of this Tim Conway Jr. Working straight through

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<v Speaker 1>the night. I mean, it was an extraordinary show Mo

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<v Speaker 1>Kelly as well, an extraordinary show of commitment to information

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<v Speaker 1>and it was the best of this radio station. So

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<v Speaker 1>very cool to be here this week. And we are expecting.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, as you know, Marla is with child, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's very exciting for me because.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a transition I didn't expect.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, exactly. Well, I have much more that you won't

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<v Speaker 1>expect later this but I am expecting. You are expecting,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'd like to say we're expecting because I'm part

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<v Speaker 1>of the process too now, Uncle Mark, Yeah, exactly, I

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<v Speaker 1>have a vested interest. Would you ever sell naming rights

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<v Speaker 1>to your child? Would you ever think about that like

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<v Speaker 1>they do like a crypto arena, you know that they

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<v Speaker 1>are they paying for the No. No, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>if a big like billionaire like Musk type figure came

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<v Speaker 1>into your life and said, you know, one hundred million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>But you have to name your child, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Elon or whatever it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, his son's name is X right, and you're having.

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<v Speaker 1>A girl, so it wouldn't be Elon maybe, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he won Mexish. Yeah, for for.

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<v Speaker 2>How much money?

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely, all of a sudden negotiation the art of

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<v Speaker 2>the deal.

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<v Speaker 1>First it will no, but now it's how much money?

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<v Speaker 1>Was that? All right? Whatever?

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<v Speaker 2>We call her beg anyway for baby girls.

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<v Speaker 1>That's pretty cool. Well, we're so excited. Anyway, here's what's happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Time for what's happening. The Santa Ana winds have relaxed

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<v Speaker 1>across southern California four.

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<v Speaker 2>Now anyway, thank goodness. Yes, so most of the mornings

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<v Speaker 2>expired yesterday at no, today's Thursday. I'm getting my days

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<v Speaker 2>mixed up. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll be three o'clock to day that they expire completely.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, yes, yes, But so then we have some

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<v Speaker 2>calm going into the weekend, which is beautiful. But then

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<v Speaker 2>there is that next Santa Ana wind event that is

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<v Speaker 2>expected to happen Monday and Tuesday sixty percent chance. So

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to look at the other side of

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<v Speaker 2>forty percent chance that it won't.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's not going to be a sent an event

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<v Speaker 1>on the scale that we saw no shees. I think

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<v Speaker 1>worth noting.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not one of those particularly dangerous situations.

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<v Speaker 1>And between now and then, we're going to get a

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<v Speaker 1>sea breeze, says the National Weather Service. And that's important

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<v Speaker 1>because with that sea breeze comes humidity. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we'll increase the dryness, but the decrease.

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<v Speaker 1>Wind blown dust and ash still around. You should avoid

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<v Speaker 1>our outdoor activities, keep windows and doors closed if you're

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<v Speaker 1>in many of these areas of the Palisades and the

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<v Speaker 1>eaten fires, and residents, residents who are you know, going

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<v Speaker 1>through those regions are supposed to be well made aware

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<v Speaker 1>of that, which is what we're doing and the National

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<v Speaker 1>Weather Service does similarly. There is a mud and debris

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<v Speaker 1>slide that has split a hillside home in the Palisades.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the home has been split in half. Marlow.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is adding insult to injury because it actually

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<v Speaker 2>is one of the homes that survived the fire and

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<v Speaker 2>then the debris flow in the slide caused it to

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<v Speaker 2>split in half. And a lot of these people what

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<v Speaker 2>they've done is when they evacuated. They hired private security

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<v Speaker 2>all of that, and of course we have the La

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<v Speaker 2>County Sheriff and we have laped out there monitoring various jurisdictions.

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<v Speaker 2>But nonetheless, they get private security, and there was a

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<v Speaker 2>hired there's a security officer who literally saw this home

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<v Speaker 2>cast a yea mar or castella mar. I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 2>how to sell the.

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<v Speaker 1>Name of the street. Yeah, yeah, right in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Pacific Palisades, literally split in half.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then there you'll see all over local news.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a huge story, but it's also something of a well,

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<v Speaker 1>it may be a sign of what's to come. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the's certainly what's to come and what of

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<v Speaker 1>the One of the concerns that we have contemporaneous with

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<v Speaker 1>happen in Santa Barbara, you know, in Montecito. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it was an extraordinary thing. The flow of mud. It

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<v Speaker 1>gets to be a concern and it's addressed. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>in all of the press conferences that all the fire

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<v Speaker 1>that as well. The average rate on the thirty year

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<v Speaker 2>It's the highest level in eight months. The rate rows

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<v Speaker 2>to just seven point zero four percent from six point

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<v Speaker 2>nine to three percent last week. This is according to

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<v Speaker 2>Freddie Mack. It has risen for five straight weeks. And

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<v Speaker 2>what about the fifteen year fixed rate mortgage, which is

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<v Speaker 2>very popular with homeowners. That one also increased to six

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<v Speaker 2>point two seven that's up from six point one four

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Of course this affects the real estate market. It

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<v Speaker 1>adds hundreds of dollars a month to costs for borrowers.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is something to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the elevated mortgage rates now prolonging a national home

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<v Speaker 1>Zin is the nicotine pouch that is used by many.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like the chew. You put it between

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<v Speaker 1>like your lip and your gums.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I asked you, how does the pouch work?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's well, that's how. It's not very complicated. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well you know, I'm gonna recommend as a pregnant woman,

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<v Speaker 1>you lay off the chew.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. The FDA is authorizing though, this Zin nicotine pouch

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<v Speaker 1>for sale. They are saying that they have found that

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<v Speaker 1>they pose these pouches lower risks of cancer and other

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<v Speaker 1>serious health conditions compared with cigarettes. It's again, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>saying it's safe per se, right Marla, than after agent

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<v Speaker 1>saying that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's better than smoking. That's what they're saying. But we

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<v Speaker 2>know that smoking is bad, and at this point it's

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't have a lot of use a young among miners.

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<v Speaker 1>Meaning that most kids are not are not used.

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<v Speaker 2>No, yeah, they're not using it. But I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 2>that it had exploded in recent years in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>popularity because of a viral online meme trend.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not hanging out with the zen crowd over there

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<v Speaker 1>in West La, West La and Maternity Land.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not there with the well, even if I wasn't pregnant,

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't be hanging out.

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<v Speaker 1>You wouldn't be. You don't see yourself with the zen crowd.

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<v Speaker 1>You're at the in crowd, not the z. Drug eating

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<v Speaker 1>rats have invaded Houston's police evidence room. I know it's true.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an issue that has prompted the district attorney there

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<v Speaker 1>to alert defense attorneys in open drug related cases that

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<v Speaker 1>number thirty six hundred. So they're saying Hey, there is

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<v Speaker 1>a problem with the evidence room to the point that

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<v Speaker 1>thirty six hundred different cases likely might be influenced. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that there's any impact on any cases, even

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<v Speaker 1>as large as number as that is yet, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>saying it's possible that something could happen as a result

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<v Speaker 1>of this rodent infestation.

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<v Speaker 2>So get this. The Houston mayor said, just one example

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<v Speaker 2>is the quote, just one example. We've got four hundred

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<v Speaker 2>thousand pounds of marijuana in storage that the rats are

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<v Speaker 2>the only ones enjoining got a bunch of high. Rats.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't get high on your own supplies one of these

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<v Speaker 1>space Come on now, just make money off of it,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't you rats? Get that? And finally, the Southwest pilot

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<v Speaker 1>is removed from the cockpit. For anybody guesses.

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<v Speaker 2>DUI god a good look.

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<v Speaker 1>Just yesterday Georgia to Chicago. It was to have been

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<v Speaker 1>a flight that the Southwest pilot would take them on.

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<v Speaker 1>He was booked on a charge of driving under the influence.

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<v Speaker 2>Bail said at thirty five hundred, the employee has been

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<v Speaker 2>removed from duty.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, yes, I would hope. So that is always the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing that's going Look, you know, but I.

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<v Speaker 2>Love that the FA put out a statement clarifying that

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<v Speaker 2>regulations prohibit pilots from using alcohol while on duty.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I thank you, Yeah, thank you. I would

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<v Speaker 1>think that would kind of be a border plate thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Hollywood mourning the passing of David Lynch. The writer director

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<v Speaker 1>had kind of a dark vision in his films Blue Velvet,

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<v Speaker 1>mulhalland Drive, Twin Peaks.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved Twin Peaks.

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<v Speaker 1>America loved Twin Peaks. Yeah, I mean all that mystery

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<v Speaker 1>and darkness around his stuff. And you know, he'd had emphysema.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a lifetime smoker, and he actually in a

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<v Speaker 2>He was seventy eight. The family spokesperson announcing his death

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<v Speaker 2>on Facebook saying it is with deep regret that we

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<v Speaker 2>his family announced the passing of the man and the artist,

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<v Speaker 2>David Lynch. We would appreciate some privacy at this time.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a big hole in the world now that he's

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<v Speaker 2>no longer with us. But as he would say, keep

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<v Speaker 2>your eye on the donut and not on the whole.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's interesting because he was one of those guys

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<v Speaker 1>who was a celebrated director, and he was recognized, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel with a profile internationally that was even stronger than

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<v Speaker 1>his profile in Hollywood. I just feel as though he

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<v Speaker 1>was really celebrated.

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<v Speaker 2>And beyond Hollywood, he had a foundation, the David Lynch Foundation,

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<v Speaker 2>to back meditation for mental health. So this was huge,

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<v Speaker 2>very big into that huge.

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<v Speaker 1>Essentially Lynch dedicated the last twenty years. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>I just picked that number, but I think that's about

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<v Speaker 1>right to launching this center for meditation, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's transcendental meditation that he Yeah, you're one.

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<v Speaker 2>Hundred percent right. It was in two thousand and five

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<v Speaker 2>that he launched that oh wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, and he dedicated so many resources and so

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<v Speaker 1>much social media toward that, and he helped so many

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<v Speaker 1>people through that foundation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's amazing. Just this fall, the Foundation's Meditate America

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<v Speaker 2>public awareness campaign promoted meditation for stress reduction by offering

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<v Speaker 2>free sessions, discounted courses, and scholarships in more than one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred US cities.

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<v Speaker 1>So he was born in Montana. Just I mean interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>You always learn I feel so much about people sadly

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<v Speaker 1>by reading their obituary. I mean, you learn what a

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<v Speaker 1>rich life and what contributed to this person who was

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<v Speaker 1>so very creative. So he born in Montana and he

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<v Speaker 1>had this weird They talk about contradiction. I'm just reading

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<v Speaker 1>different obituaries between his mild manner and the eruptions of

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<v Speaker 1>violence and profanity in his art. I mean, let's face it,

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about those movies and there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>both profanity and violence in his films. And he says, look,

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<v Speaker 1>my parents were so loving and good. He wrote a

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<v Speaker 1>memoir and he said they had good parents also raising them,

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<v Speaker 2>So in other words, don't blame my parents.

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen seventy seven, and again that was shot in

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<v Speaker 2>I love this description of his genre. These were horror

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<v Speaker 2>stories that mix the monstrous with the mundane, that emerged

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<v Speaker 2>from a landscape of dreams or nightmares. Their happy endings

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<v Speaker 2>doing nothing to erase the discomfort they left behind. Few

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<v Speaker 2>doubted the power of his vision and imagination, though naysayers

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean, here's another way to say that. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>his movies are really tough to understand. Yeah, what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on in mulhalland Drive. I don't know. But I'll tell

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<v Speaker 1>you a movie that's easy to understand and is really powerful.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was one of his films I forget when

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<v Speaker 1>the eighties, was a Elephant Man. The Elephant Man. He

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<v Speaker 1>elephant Man. And it is a true story and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a really powerful movie.

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<v Speaker 2>So again, I didn't realize you did The Elephant Man.

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<v Speaker 2>But oh my gosh, that movie. I remember seeing that

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<v Speaker 2>and it was just it's one of those that stays

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just seeing if you were correct, I think it

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yes, Wow, there's stories out of that whole thing

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, you had a it was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>an immersive experience. The actors there, like, you know, John Hurt,

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<v Speaker 1>he was just a remarkable as he had all that

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<v Speaker 2>Hopkins and Bancroft.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's right and Bancroft right. But I guess there

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<v Speaker 1>was some real shall we say, flare ups on the

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<v Speaker 1>set between Hopkins and Lynch, as reported. You know, Hopkins

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<v Speaker 1>was frustrated that Lynch wasn't saying, you know, exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted from his character. But whatever, the result was remarkable.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm looking at the movie poster and it's the

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<v Speaker 2>Elephant Man and it says I Am not an animal,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a human being. I'm a man.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure it holds up today. It was, Yeah, it was,

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<v Speaker 1>and terrific performances and there were oscars I think that

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<v Speaker 1>came from it. Maybe Hurt one, but twin Peaks, Mulholland Drive,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course, as we say, this foundation that backs

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<v Speaker 1>meditation for mental health was really where he put a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of his work over the last couple of decades.

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<v Speaker 1>A big loss and at seventy eight years of age

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<v Speaker 1>David Lynch with a great body of work, not just

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<v Speaker 1>in show business but in his life. He passes away

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<v Speaker 1>again at age seventy eight. Now to the story that

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about my show and talk about on Fox eleven,

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<v Speaker 1>talk about here at KFI, and I was saying, we've

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<v Speaker 1>been wall to wall with coverage on the fires in

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<v Speaker 1>southern California and the question around the fires and the

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<v Speaker 1>LAFD budget cuts. All of this is being looked at

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<v Speaker 1>by News Nations national investigative correspondent Rich McHugh. Hi, Rich, Hi, guys.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you all right? I mean, we're all right

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<v Speaker 1>as we kind of sift through the wreckage, literal and

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<v Speaker 1>also administrative. What have you found in looking at some

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<v Speaker 1>of these issues involving the LAFD budget cuts.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's just it's widespread.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been talking to a former twenty three year you know,

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<v Speaker 3>veteran the Lostians of the Fire Department, John Knot, and

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<v Speaker 3>he stood up a couple of years ago the vaccine.

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<v Speaker 3>He refused to take the COVID shot. Yeah, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 3>they fired him. There were hundreds that refused. Anyway, He's

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<v Speaker 3>watching this whole thing, and I've talked to other former

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<v Speaker 3>lostians of fire department sources, and they say this is

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<v Speaker 3>a complete and utter lack of leadership, you know, at

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<v Speaker 3>the at the in the fire department, like at the

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<v Speaker 3>chief level, but above at at the mayor level, and

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<v Speaker 3>the budget cuts that you know, I have a document

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<v Speaker 3>that shows that the Mayor's office was asking for an

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<v Speaker 3>additional forty eight I believe it is forty eight point

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<v Speaker 3>eight million in budget cuts this year, which would ultimately

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<v Speaker 3>require them to close sixteen fire stations, entire fire stations. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>the fire department was pushing back on that, but that's

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<v Speaker 3>that's the state of things. And so their point is,

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<v Speaker 3>you can't run an effective fire you know, department this

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<v Speaker 3>big of a city with these these types of the

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<v Speaker 3>issues with under these tremendous budget cuts, when the focus

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<v Speaker 3>is on the priorities are on not on fire prevention,

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<v Speaker 3>Let's put it that way. I also obtained this morning

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<v Speaker 3>a new a letter from current and former fire chiefs.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to phrase that right, but they're almost

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<v Speaker 3>at chief level like leadership, and it's addressed to Kristen

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<v Speaker 3>Crowley basically calling it out, calling her out.

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<v Speaker 1>I can read a quote.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so damning they're asking for her resignation. One of

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<v Speaker 3>the quotes is, there's no doubt among all of us

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<v Speaker 3>that if you had done things right and prepared the

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<v Speaker 3>Los Angeles Fire Department for an incident of this magnitude,

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<v Speaker 3>fatalities would have been reduced in property would have been saved.

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<v Speaker 3>All the preventative systems and mechanisms that we have put

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<v Speaker 3>it in place in the past where non existent at

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<v Speaker 3>the Palisades Fire. We attribute this to you and your

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<v Speaker 3>command staff, lack of experience, arrogance, inability to lead. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a damning a five phades letter as I've ever

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<v Speaker 3>read in my life, and.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a by who and so that's signed by

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<v Speaker 1>a former leadership at LAFDLA.

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<v Speaker 3>Los Angeles Fire Department chief officer's current and plump. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>this is like in Unison. It's five pages, it's out.

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<v Speaker 3>We have a story out Onnation with it right now.

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<v Speaker 3>See you can go to the News Nation and find it.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really scathing, and it's an indictment of poor management

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<v Speaker 3>by they allege by the chief and by the mayor

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<v Speaker 3>as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. You know, one of our reporters at Fox eleven,

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<v Speaker 2>Gigi Grassiet. She's the one who got the exclusive interview

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<v Speaker 2>Friday with Crowley in which Crowley made the point that

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<v Speaker 2>you just made, and in Crowley's words that since nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>sixty one right to now, the fire department has fewer

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<v Speaker 2>fire stations despite a significant increase in the population. And

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<v Speaker 2>then of course she points to the budget cuts, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's when we heard her candidly, you know, sort of

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<v Speaker 2>go not sort of to go against the mayor and

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<v Speaker 2>the city. You also Rich spoke to you have an

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<v Speaker 2>exclusive interview with a Palisades residents who saw the actual

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<v Speaker 2>fire break out, and I believe a slow fire response.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Michael Valentine, he lives at the top of the Palisades,

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<v Speaker 3>and I believe he was among the first people to

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<v Speaker 3>first people to see this breakout. She was the first call.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe Los Angeles Fire Departments confirmed that the call

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<v Speaker 3>it in ten twenty nine was the first, and I

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<v Speaker 3>believe that's the one that she made. They saw the

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<v Speaker 3>smoke was localized up on the top of the ridge

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<v Speaker 3>by Skull Rock. I don't know if you know Skull Rock,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's up on the top of the ridge line there.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a fire there previously a week earlier in

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<v Speaker 3>a nearby spot, and Michael Valentine says the response on

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<v Speaker 3>New Year's Eve was overwhelming. There was they put it out,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and so kind of loads him into a

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<v Speaker 3>sense of security where he thought, okay, well, here we

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<v Speaker 3>go again. He was documented documenting the fire in a

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<v Speaker 3>series of videos. He started, you know, videoing about four

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<v Speaker 3>five minutes after they called Non one ten thirty four,

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<v Speaker 3>ten thirty six, ten fifty. In some of the videos,

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<v Speaker 3>you see a chopper overhead at ten fifty scouting appears

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<v Speaker 3>to be scouting the fire, and then you see them

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<v Speaker 3>starting to fight the fire around. I believe it's like

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<v Speaker 3>right after eleven or eleven thirteen. Obviously it's not a

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<v Speaker 3>continuous video, so that we don't know if they were

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<v Speaker 3>fighting before that. But according to him, he says he

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<v Speaker 3>did not see any firefighters up there in that time

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<v Speaker 3>for a long time, and you couldn't see any other firefighters,

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<v Speaker 3>and it just seems to grow and grow, and by

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<v Speaker 3>the end of his videos it's it's metastasized into this

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<v Speaker 3>giant fires. He says he believes, having lived up there

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<v Speaker 3>and been a Palisades resident for forty years, that this

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<v Speaker 3>could have been contained. This wasn't a wind event. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>you no weatherman, but this wasn't a win event.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet.

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't eighty milius at the top there it was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was it was windy that they could have he

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<v Speaker 3>believes they could have contained it.

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<v Speaker 2>In other words, there was there was a gap of

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<v Speaker 2>about forty to forty five minutes with the surveillane then

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<v Speaker 2>coming back and then doing any sort of drop.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes. Yes, And this is by keep in mind, this

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<v Speaker 3>is a former, uh prosecutor for the Department of Justice,

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<v Speaker 3>Like this is not somebody who is just just some

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<v Speaker 3>average resident, like this is somebody who knows, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>what they're talking about. And so for him to come

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<v Speaker 3>out and say this, he used the word negligent. I

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<v Speaker 3>think he used the word criminally negligent. So those are

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<v Speaker 3>some strong words, Yeah, they are.

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<v Speaker 2>And you brought up the New Year's Day fire in

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<v Speaker 2>the early morning hours and now as you know, that

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<v Speaker 2>is being investigated as a potential cause.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it's you know, two people who know, like

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<v Speaker 3>it's possible that that fires just thatt there in the

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<v Speaker 3>roots for a week in when the winds started kicking up.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what kicked it up. It's possible. But I'm also

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<v Speaker 3>hearing that they're investigating who else was up there. I

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<v Speaker 3>believe there were a bunch of kids that were up

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<v Speaker 3>there that were documented coming running down. So I know

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<v Speaker 3>that they're looking at all the security cameras. You can't

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<v Speaker 3>even get up there, you know, can't even access those trails.

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<v Speaker 1>I've tried.

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<v Speaker 3>So they have it all sectioned off, and investigators are

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<v Speaker 3>up on the top of that ridge line. They were

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<v Speaker 3>at least yesterday all day yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you mentioned criminal negligence. I mean, if indeed there

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<v Speaker 1>can be sufficient evidence of that, you would expect that

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<v Speaker 1>these lawsuits, some of which are already sort of germinating

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<v Speaker 1>out of the Palisades and out of the eating fire too.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they're two different kinds of sets of criminal

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<v Speaker 1>complaints or legal complaints, civil complaints. They will be they'll

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<v Speaker 1>be joined by many residents there who have lost everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Rich mcku. It's a remarkable thing. Go ahead, you finishing that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>I talked to a resident last night who's who told me, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>she is going to be filing independently. You know, she

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<v Speaker 3>she has she is not part of the suit, but

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<v Speaker 3>those in the Pacific Policies, they've already filed suit against

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<v Speaker 3>the city and against the Department of Water and Power

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<v Speaker 3>for the fact that the Inez Reservoir reservoir was empty.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is just the beginning of what's probably going

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<v Speaker 3>to be a title wave of of of lawsuits.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that wave of already has already started.

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<v Speaker 1>Indeed. Uh, yeah, well this is great, great reporting. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>look to a news nation and Rich again is the

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<v Speaker 1>national investigative correspondent there, and we appreciate it. Rich mccut

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for checking in with the care fire. Thank you, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. But former presidents Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, and

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<v Speaker 1>George W. Bush not attending Donald Trump's traditional inaugural lunch.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a lunch hosted by the president elect, and

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<v Speaker 1>they are declining the invitation. George Bush Obama, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know Hillary Clinton was invited to that too. She's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be doing that, former Secretary of State, and

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<v Speaker 1>of course she ran against Trump.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, not much of a surprise.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, look, let's be honest. Trump himself didn't

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<v Speaker 1>attend the inauguration of Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 2>However, they were all in attendance at Jimmy Carter's funeral,

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<v Speaker 2>and all of the images between Obama and Trump, those

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<v Speaker 2>weren't viral. They looked like they got along just fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean in the moment, I mean, Obama seemed

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<v Speaker 1>to bury the hatchet. And it's usually inauguration day one

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<v Speaker 1>of the only occasions where all former living presidents congregate.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you'll usually find them at these inaugurations. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>Trump didn't go to Biden's and now they're sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a maybe a breakdown a bit of that tradition. What

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<v Speaker 1>will be very much, it would seem a present, is

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<v Speaker 1>the rise of those who are trying to I think,

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<v Speaker 1>curry favor with Donald Trump. And there are a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of tech bros in that group.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they've already curried favor. Yeah, I think the

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<v Speaker 2>trying is over. It's going to be a very tech

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<v Speaker 2>titan heavy inauguration. Yeah, including TikTok Ceo shoo chew, shout

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<v Speaker 2>chew if you say so. He has been invited and

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<v Speaker 2>is expected to attend on Monday, and he will be

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<v Speaker 2>sitting alongside Musk and Bezos and Zuckerberg. And it's noted

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<v Speaker 2>here that the Google Ceo'ssun Dar.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he is planning to attend, but he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>sit with other executives.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a lot of tech executives at this show.

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<v Speaker 1>And you may say all of the ingratiating themselves to

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<v Speaker 1>Trump is over. Marley. You may see it as through,

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<v Speaker 1>because they did cut the million dollar checks for the

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<v Speaker 1>inauguration fund, and they did go down to Marlago and

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<v Speaker 1>have spent time there Zuckerberg and the rest. But I'd

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<v Speaker 1>suggest to you it's an ongoing thing. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>never really ends, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and then there's a lot of people within Trump's

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<v Speaker 2>circle who, you know, according to many reports, are a

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<v Speaker 2>little annoyed by Musk's omnipresence, if you will. Yeah, he

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<v Speaker 2>is ubiquitous in mar A Lago and always has the

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<v Speaker 2>President's here. So yeah, to your point, I understand what.

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<v Speaker 1>They're Batman and Robin Marlin. I don't know which one's

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<v Speaker 1>Batman and which one's Robin, but they are tight. And again,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this is no surprise. The Supreme Court justices,

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<v Speaker 1>they I believe, are in attendance typically. I mean they're

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<v Speaker 1>older people and it's cold out there, you know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up in Washington, d C. And the invitation

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<v Speaker 1>to the inauguration you may view as a real cool thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and it probably is a cool thing, But I'm telling

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<v Speaker 1>you that's a bad ticket. It's like being invited to

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<v Speaker 1>the AFC playoff game championship game if it were in Buffalo,

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<v Speaker 1>New York. So when the Bills host the AFC Championship

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<v Speaker 1>game and you get, well, here you go, tickets on

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<v Speaker 1>the fifty yard line.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, dude, you can pay me enough to

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<v Speaker 2>sit there freeze my.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's five below and there's a win.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it well to me, it's like the New York

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<v Speaker 2>Times ball drop.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly where you're corraldone.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, pardon me, you're corraldon and you have to

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<v Speaker 2>be there. You can't leave. It's cold, it's miserable. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think it's supposed to be raining on Monday there,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's gonna be cold.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be cold. I mean it's January in Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>d C. It's cold. So all I'm saying is that

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<v Speaker 1>it ain't the great ticket that necessarily one might think

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<v Speaker 1>it is. But it's now going to be attended by

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<v Speaker 1>a whole different texture of people than attended it in

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<v Speaker 1>times past.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the oligarchy that President Biden warned about last.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, you can talk about how much of an influence

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<v Speaker 1>they'll have. It would seem to me they will have

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<v Speaker 1>a huge influence because this is a really clever incoming

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<v Speaker 1>president when it comes to social media, and these are

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<v Speaker 1>the heads of huge social media companies and tech companies.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean to be fair, SpaceX Bezos has immense contracts

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<v Speaker 1>with the US government. They have nothing to do with

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<v Speaker 1>social media, and similarly Google, et cetera. So they definitely

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<v Speaker 1>have big places at the table when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>the incoming administion.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and let's not forget that this comes the day

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<v Speaker 2>after the TikTok ban could very well take effect, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, of course Trump is doing his part to

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<v Speaker 2>delay a band or find a workaround. Now there reports

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<v Speaker 2>NBC News is reporting that the Biden administration is weighing

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<v Speaker 2>options that could keep TikTok available in the US if

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<v Speaker 2>the ban is instituted. And if it does go into effect,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't mean if you're an active user you can

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<v Speaker 2>still use it. It just doesn't take new users. But

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<v Speaker 2>even as an active user, eventually you won't be able

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<v Speaker 2>to update and it'll become Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, I am on this. They're gonna save TikTok.

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<v Speaker 1>There are just too many interests associated with TikTok for

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<v Speaker 1>it to go away. But exactly how it will be

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<v Speaker 1>saved that'll be interesting to see. TikTok TikTok. Co Belt

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<v Speaker 1>is next, and Marla, I look forward to seeing you

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<v Speaker 1>every morning, I really do.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be back tomorrow for tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Tomorrow is our final day and Gary and Shannon return

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<v Speaker 1>on Monday. Thanks everybody, Thanks to all the Gary and

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<v Speaker 1>Shannon kids who've supported and John Colebelt. Next, it is

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