Speaker 1: This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to kf
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Speaker 1: and Shannon, who come back next week. But in the
Speaker 1: earliest hours of this Tim Conway Jr. Working straight through
Speaker 1: the night. I mean, it was an extraordinary show Mo
Speaker 1: Kelly as well, an extraordinary show of commitment to information
Speaker 1: and it was the best of this radio station. So
Speaker 1: very cool to be here this week. And we are expecting.
Speaker 1: Of course, as you know, Marla is with child, and
Speaker 1: it's very exciting for me because.
Speaker 2: That was a transition I didn't expect.
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. Well, I have much more that you won't
Speaker 1: expect later this but I am expecting. You are expecting,
Speaker 1: and I'd like to say we're expecting because I'm part
Speaker 1: of the process too now, Uncle Mark, Yeah, exactly, I
Speaker 1: have a vested interest. Would you ever sell naming rights
Speaker 1: to your child? Would you ever think about that like
Speaker 1: they do like a crypto arena, you know that they
Speaker 1: are they paying for the No. No, I don't think
Speaker 1: if a big like billionaire like Musk type figure came
Speaker 1: into your life and said, you know, one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1: But you have to name your child, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: Elon or whatever it was.
Speaker 2: Well, his son's name is X right, and you're having.
Speaker 1: A girl, so it wouldn't be Elon maybe, but yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe he won Mexish. Yeah, for for.
Speaker 2: How much money?
Speaker 1: Exactly?
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, all of a sudden negotiation the art of
Speaker 2: the deal.
Speaker 1: First it will no, but now it's how much money?
Speaker 1: Was that? All right? Whatever?
Speaker 2: We call her beg anyway for baby girls.
Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. Well, we're so excited. Anyway, here's what's happening.
Speaker 1: Time for what's happening. The Santa Ana winds have relaxed
Speaker 1: across southern California four.
Speaker 2: Now anyway, thank goodness. Yes, so most of the mornings
Speaker 2: expired yesterday at no, today's Thursday. I'm getting my days
Speaker 2: mixed up. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: It'll be three o'clock to day that they expire completely.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, But so then we have some
Speaker 2: calm going into the weekend, which is beautiful. But then
Speaker 2: there is that next Santa Ana wind event that is
Speaker 2: expected to happen Monday and Tuesday sixty percent chance. So
Speaker 2: if you want to look at the other side of
Speaker 2: forty percent chance that it won't.
Speaker 1: Well, it's not going to be a sent an event
Speaker 1: on the scale that we saw no shees. I think
Speaker 1: worth noting.
Speaker 2: It's not one of those particularly dangerous situations.
Speaker 1: And between now and then, we're going to get a
Speaker 1: sea breeze, says the National Weather Service. And that's important
Speaker 1: because with that sea breeze comes humidity. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll increase the dryness, but the decrease.
Speaker 1: Wind blown dust and ash still around. You should avoid
Speaker 1: our outdoor activities, keep windows and doors closed if you're
Speaker 1: in many of these areas of the Palisades and the
Speaker 1: eaten fires, and residents, residents who are you know, going
Speaker 1: through those regions are supposed to be well made aware
Speaker 1: of that, which is what we're doing and the National
Speaker 1: Weather Service does similarly. There is a mud and debris
Speaker 1: slide that has split a hillside home in the Palisades.
Speaker 1: I mean the home has been split in half. Marlow.
Speaker 2: But this is adding insult to injury because it actually
Speaker 2: is one of the homes that survived the fire and
Speaker 2: then the debris flow in the slide caused it to
Speaker 2: split in half. And a lot of these people what
Speaker 2: they've done is when they evacuated. They hired private security
Speaker 2: to guard because we know the issue of looters and
Speaker 2: all of that, and of course we have the La
Speaker 2: County Sheriff and we have laped out there monitoring various jurisdictions.
Speaker 2: But nonetheless, they get private security, and there was a
Speaker 2: hired there's a security officer who literally saw this home
Speaker 2: cast a yea mar or castella mar. I'm not sure
Speaker 2: how to sell the.
Speaker 1: Name of the street. Yeah, yeah, right in the.
Speaker 2: Pacific Palisades, literally split in half.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then there you'll see all over local news.
Speaker 1: It's a huge story, but it's also something of a well,
Speaker 1: it may be a sign of what's to come. Well,
Speaker 1: one of the's certainly what's to come and what of
Speaker 1: the One of the concerns that we have contemporaneous with
Speaker 1: all of this is that, you know, we saw it
Speaker 1: happen in Santa Barbara, you know, in Montecito. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was an extraordinary thing. The flow of mud. It
Speaker 1: gets to be a concern and it's addressed. I mean
Speaker 1: in all of the press conferences that all the fire
Speaker 1: officials and public officials have done, they have touched on
Speaker 1: that as well. The average rate on the thirty year
Speaker 1: mortgage hits seven percent.
Speaker 2: It's the highest level in eight months. The rate rows
Speaker 2: to just seven point zero four percent from six point
Speaker 2: nine to three percent last week. This is according to
Speaker 2: Freddie Mack. It has risen for five straight weeks. And
Speaker 2: what about the fifteen year fixed rate mortgage, which is
Speaker 2: very popular with homeowners. That one also increased to six
Speaker 2: point two seven that's up from six point one four
Speaker 2: last week.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Of course this affects the real estate market. It
Speaker 1: adds hundreds of dollars a month to costs for borrowers.
Speaker 1: So this is something to watch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the elevated mortgage rates now prolonging a national home
Speaker 2: sale slump that began in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1: Zin is the nicotine pouch that is used by many.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like the chew. You put it between
Speaker 1: like your lip and your gums.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I asked you, how does the pouch work?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's well, that's how. It's not very complicated. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well you know, I'm gonna recommend as a pregnant woman,
Speaker 1: you lay off the chew.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The FDA is authorizing though, this Zin nicotine pouch
Speaker 1: for sale. They are saying that they have found that
Speaker 1: they pose these pouches lower risks of cancer and other
Speaker 1: serious health conditions compared with cigarettes. It's again, it's not
Speaker 1: saying it's safe per se, right Marla, than after agent
Speaker 1: saying that.
Speaker 2: It's better than smoking. That's what they're saying. But we
Speaker 2: know that smoking is bad, and at this point it's
Speaker 2: doesn't have a lot of use a young among miners.
Speaker 1: Meaning that most kids are not are not used.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, they're not using it. But I didn't realize
Speaker 2: that it had exploded in recent years in terms of
Speaker 2: popularity because of a viral online meme trend.
Speaker 1: You're not hanging out with the zen crowd over there
Speaker 1: in West La, West La and Maternity Land.
Speaker 2: You're not there with the well, even if I wasn't pregnant,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be hanging out.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't be. You don't see yourself with the zen crowd.
Speaker 1: You're at the in crowd, not the z. Drug eating
Speaker 1: rats have invaded Houston's police evidence room. I know it's true.
Speaker 1: It's an issue that has prompted the district attorney there
Speaker 1: to alert defense attorneys in open drug related cases that
Speaker 1: number thirty six hundred. So they're saying Hey, there is
Speaker 1: a problem with the evidence room to the point that
Speaker 1: thirty six hundred different cases likely might be influenced. They
Speaker 1: don't think that there's any impact on any cases, even
Speaker 1: as large as number as that is yet, but they're
Speaker 1: saying it's possible that something could happen as a result
Speaker 1: of this rodent infestation.
Speaker 2: So get this. The Houston mayor said, just one example
Speaker 2: is the quote, just one example. We've got four hundred
Speaker 2: thousand pounds of marijuana in storage that the rats are
Speaker 2: the only ones enjoining got a bunch of high. Rats.
Speaker 1: Don't get high on your own supplies one of these
Speaker 1: space Come on now, just make money off of it,
Speaker 1: didn't you rats? Get that? And finally, the Southwest pilot
Speaker 1: is removed from the cockpit. For anybody guesses.
Speaker 2: DUI god a good look.
Speaker 1: Just yesterday Georgia to Chicago. It was to have been
Speaker 1: a flight that the Southwest pilot would take them on.
Speaker 1: He was booked on a charge of driving under the influence.
Speaker 2: Bail said at thirty five hundred, the employee has been
Speaker 2: removed from duty.
Speaker 1: Uh, yes, I would hope. So that is always the
Speaker 1: kind of thing that's going Look, you know, but I.
Speaker 2: Love that the FA put out a statement clarifying that
Speaker 2: regulations prohibit pilots from using alcohol while on duty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I thank you, Yeah, thank you. I would
Speaker 1: think that would kind of be a border plate thing.
Speaker 1: Hollywood mourning the passing of David Lynch. The writer director
Speaker 1: had kind of a dark vision in his films Blue Velvet,
Speaker 1: mulhalland Drive, Twin Peaks.
Speaker 2: I loved Twin Peaks.
Speaker 1: America loved Twin Peaks. Yeah, I mean all that mystery
Speaker 1: and darkness around his stuff. And you know, he'd had emphysema.
Speaker 1: He was a lifetime smoker, and he actually in a
Speaker 1: post just last year, said that he wouldn't likely be
Speaker 1: able to leave his house to direct anymore.
Speaker 2: He was seventy eight. The family spokesperson announcing his death
Speaker 2: on Facebook saying it is with deep regret that we
Speaker 2: his family announced the passing of the man and the artist,
Speaker 2: David Lynch. We would appreciate some privacy at this time.
Speaker 2: There's a big hole in the world now that he's
Speaker 2: no longer with us. But as he would say, keep
Speaker 2: your eye on the donut and not on the whole.
Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting because he was one of those guys
Speaker 1: who was a celebrated director, and he was recognized, I
Speaker 1: feel with a profile internationally that was even stronger than
Speaker 1: his profile in Hollywood. I just feel as though he
Speaker 1: was really celebrated.
Speaker 2: And beyond Hollywood, he had a foundation, the David Lynch Foundation,
Speaker 2: to back meditation for mental health. So this was huge,
Speaker 2: very big into that huge.
Speaker 1: Essentially Lynch dedicated the last twenty years. I wanted to
Speaker 1: I just picked that number, but I think that's about
Speaker 1: right to launching this center for meditation, and I think
Speaker 1: it's transcendental meditation that he Yeah, you're one.
Speaker 2: Hundred percent right. It was in two thousand and five
Speaker 2: that he launched that oh wow.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and he dedicated so many resources and so
Speaker 1: much social media toward that, and he helped so many
Speaker 1: people through that foundation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing. Just this fall, the Foundation's Meditate America
Speaker 2: public awareness campaign promoted meditation for stress reduction by offering
Speaker 2: free sessions, discounted courses, and scholarships in more than one
Speaker 2: hundred US cities.
Speaker 1: So he was born in Montana. Just I mean interesting.
Speaker 1: You always learn I feel so much about people sadly
Speaker 1: by reading their obituary. I mean, you learn what a
Speaker 1: rich life and what contributed to this person who was
Speaker 1: so very creative. So he born in Montana and he
Speaker 1: had this weird They talk about contradiction. I'm just reading
Speaker 1: different obituaries between his mild manner and the eruptions of
Speaker 1: violence and profanity in his art. I mean, let's face it,
Speaker 1: we talk about those movies and there's a lot of
Speaker 1: both profanity and violence in his films. And he says, look,
Speaker 1: my parents were so loving and good. He wrote a
Speaker 1: memoir and he said they had good parents also raising them,
Speaker 1: and everybody loved my parents. They were fair.
Speaker 2: So in other words, don't blame my parents.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, my twisted reality is not owing to some
Speaker 1: kind of weird childhood I had. But he came up
Speaker 1: with I believe, Terrence Malick and Paul Schrader, I mean,
Speaker 1: Paul Schrader wrote Actually Driver, and Lynch made his first feature, Eraserhead,
Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy seven, and again that was shot in
Speaker 1: black and white, and that's a bizarro kind of movie.
Speaker 2: I love this description of his genre. These were horror
Speaker 2: stories that mix the monstrous with the mundane, that emerged
Speaker 2: from a landscape of dreams or nightmares. Their happy endings
Speaker 2: doing nothing to erase the discomfort they left behind. Few
Speaker 2: doubted the power of his vision and imagination, though naysayers
Speaker 2: questioned his logical thread.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, here's another way to say that. Sometimes
Speaker 1: his movies are really tough to understand. Yeah, what's going
Speaker 1: on in mulhalland Drive. I don't know. But I'll tell
Speaker 1: you a movie that's easy to understand and is really powerful.
Speaker 1: And it was one of his films I forget when
Speaker 1: I want to see it. Maybe it came out in
Speaker 1: the eighties, was a Elephant Man. The Elephant Man. He
Speaker 1: did that with Anthony Hopkins and John Hurt played the
Speaker 1: elephant Man. And it is a true story and it's
Speaker 1: a really powerful movie.
Speaker 2: So again, I didn't realize you did The Elephant Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, nor did I hadn't remembered it either as his.
Speaker 2: But oh my gosh, that movie. I remember seeing that
Speaker 2: and it was just it's one of those that stays
Speaker 2: with you.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I'm looking it up. When did you say,
Speaker 2: I'm just seeing if you were correct, I think it
Speaker 2: was in the eighties. It was, yeah, in nineteen eighty.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, Wow, there's stories out of that whole thing
Speaker 1: because you know, you had a it was kind of
Speaker 1: an immersive experience. The actors there, like, you know, John Hurt,
Speaker 1: he was just a remarkable as he had all that
Speaker 1: prosthetic on as the Elephant Man, and you have Anthony.
Speaker 2: Hopkins and Bancroft.
Speaker 1: Oh that's right and Bancroft right. But I guess there
Speaker 1: was some real shall we say, flare ups on the
Speaker 1: set between Hopkins and Lynch, as reported. You know, Hopkins
Speaker 1: was frustrated that Lynch wasn't saying, you know, exactly what
Speaker 1: he wanted from his character. But whatever, the result was remarkable.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: So I'm looking at the movie poster and it's the
Speaker 2: Elephant Man and it says I Am not an animal,
Speaker 2: I'm a human being. I'm a man.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it holds up today. It was, Yeah, it was,
Speaker 1: and terrific performances and there were oscars I think that
Speaker 1: came from it. Maybe Hurt one, but twin Peaks, Mulholland Drive,
Speaker 1: and of course, as we say, this foundation that backs
Speaker 1: meditation for mental health was really where he put a
Speaker 1: lot of his work over the last couple of decades.
Speaker 1: A big loss and at seventy eight years of age
Speaker 1: David Lynch with a great body of work, not just
Speaker 1: in show business but in his life. He passes away
Speaker 1: again at age seventy eight. Now to the story that
Speaker 1: we talk about my show and talk about on Fox eleven,
Speaker 1: talk about here at KFI, and I was saying, we've
Speaker 1: been wall to wall with coverage on the fires in
Speaker 1: southern California and the question around the fires and the
Speaker 1: LAFD budget cuts. All of this is being looked at
Speaker 1: by News Nations national investigative correspondent Rich McHugh. Hi, Rich, Hi, guys.
Speaker 1: How are you all right? I mean, we're all right
Speaker 1: as we kind of sift through the wreckage, literal and
Speaker 1: also administrative. What have you found in looking at some
Speaker 1: of these issues involving the LAFD budget cuts.
Speaker 3: Well, it's just it's widespread.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I've been talking to a former twenty three year you know,
Speaker 3: veteran the Lostians of the Fire Department, John Knot, and
Speaker 3: he stood up a couple of years ago the vaccine.
Speaker 3: He refused to take the COVID shot. Yeah, yeah, and
Speaker 3: they fired him. There were hundreds that refused. Anyway, He's
Speaker 3: watching this whole thing, and I've talked to other former
Speaker 3: lostians of fire department sources, and they say this is
Speaker 3: a complete and utter lack of leadership, you know, at
Speaker 3: the at the in the fire department, like at the
Speaker 3: chief level, but above at at the mayor level, and
Speaker 3: the budget cuts that you know, I have a document
Speaker 3: that shows that the Mayor's office was asking for an
Speaker 3: additional forty eight I believe it is forty eight point
Speaker 3: eight million in budget cuts this year, which would ultimately
Speaker 3: require them to close sixteen fire stations, entire fire stations. Obviously,
Speaker 3: the fire department was pushing back on that, but that's
Speaker 3: that's the state of things. And so their point is,
Speaker 3: you can't run an effective fire you know, department this
Speaker 3: big of a city with these these types of the
Speaker 3: issues with under these tremendous budget cuts, when the focus
Speaker 3: is on the priorities are on not on fire prevention,
Speaker 3: Let's put it that way. I also obtained this morning
Speaker 3: a new a letter from current and former fire chiefs.
Speaker 3: I'm not going to phrase that right, but they're almost
Speaker 3: at chief level like leadership, and it's addressed to Kristen
Speaker 3: Crowley basically calling it out, calling her out.
Speaker 1: I can read a quote.
Speaker 3: It's so damning they're asking for her resignation. One of
Speaker 3: the quotes is, there's no doubt among all of us
Speaker 3: that if you had done things right and prepared the
Speaker 3: Los Angeles Fire Department for an incident of this magnitude,
Speaker 3: fatalities would have been reduced in property would have been saved.
Speaker 3: All the preventative systems and mechanisms that we have put
Speaker 3: it in place in the past where non existent at
Speaker 3: the Palisades Fire. We attribute this to you and your
Speaker 3: command staff, lack of experience, arrogance, inability to lead. I mean,
Speaker 3: it's a damning a five phades letter as I've ever
Speaker 3: read in my life, and.
Speaker 1: It was a by who and so that's signed by
Speaker 1: a former leadership at LAFDLA.
Speaker 3: Los Angeles Fire Department chief officer's current and plump. Well,
Speaker 3: this is like in Unison. It's five pages, it's out.
Speaker 3: We have a story out Onnation with it right now.
Speaker 3: See you can go to the News Nation and find it.
Speaker 1: But it's.
Speaker 3: It's really scathing, and it's an indictment of poor management
Speaker 3: by they allege by the chief and by the mayor
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 2: Well. You know, one of our reporters at Fox eleven,
Speaker 2: Gigi Grassiet. She's the one who got the exclusive interview
Speaker 2: Friday with Crowley in which Crowley made the point that
Speaker 2: you just made, and in Crowley's words that since nineteen
Speaker 2: sixty one right to now, the fire department has fewer
Speaker 2: fire stations despite a significant increase in the population. And
Speaker 2: then of course she points to the budget cuts, and
Speaker 2: that's when we heard her candidly, you know, sort of
Speaker 2: go not sort of to go against the mayor and
Speaker 2: the city. You also Rich spoke to you have an
Speaker 2: exclusive interview with a Palisades residents who saw the actual
Speaker 2: fire break out, and I believe a slow fire response.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Michael Valentine, he lives at the top of the Palisades,
Speaker 3: and I believe he was among the first people to
Speaker 3: see this, and he and his wife were among the
Speaker 3: first people to see this breakout. She was the first call.
Speaker 3: I believe Los Angeles Fire Departments confirmed that the call
Speaker 3: it in ten twenty nine was the first, and I
Speaker 3: believe that's the one that she made. They saw the
Speaker 3: smoke was localized up on the top of the ridge
Speaker 3: by Skull Rock. I don't know if you know Skull Rock,
Speaker 3: but it's up on the top of the ridge line there.
Speaker 3: There was a fire there previously a week earlier in
Speaker 3: a nearby spot, and Michael Valentine says the response on
Speaker 3: New Year's Eve was overwhelming. There was they put it out,
Speaker 3: you know, and so kind of loads him into a
Speaker 3: sense of security where he thought, okay, well, here we
Speaker 3: go again. He was documented documenting the fire in a
Speaker 3: series of videos. He started, you know, videoing about four
Speaker 3: five minutes after they called Non one ten thirty four,
Speaker 3: ten thirty six, ten fifty. In some of the videos,
Speaker 3: you see a chopper overhead at ten fifty scouting appears
Speaker 3: to be scouting the fire, and then you see them
Speaker 3: starting to fight the fire around. I believe it's like
Speaker 3: right after eleven or eleven thirteen. Obviously it's not a
Speaker 3: continuous video, so that we don't know if they were
Speaker 3: fighting before that. But according to him, he says he
Speaker 3: did not see any firefighters up there in that time
Speaker 3: for a long time, and you couldn't see any other firefighters,
Speaker 3: and it just seems to grow and grow, and by
Speaker 3: the end of his videos it's it's metastasized into this
Speaker 3: giant fires. He says he believes, having lived up there
Speaker 3: and been a Palisades resident for forty years, that this
Speaker 3: could have been contained. This wasn't a wind event. You know,
Speaker 3: you no weatherman, but this wasn't a win event.
Speaker 1: Yet.
Speaker 3: It wasn't eighty milius at the top there it was.
Speaker 3: It was it was windy that they could have he
Speaker 3: believes they could have contained it.
Speaker 2: In other words, there was there was a gap of
Speaker 2: about forty to forty five minutes with the surveillane then
Speaker 2: coming back and then doing any sort of drop.
Speaker 3: Yes. Yes, And this is by keep in mind, this
Speaker 3: is a former, uh prosecutor for the Department of Justice,
Speaker 3: Like this is not somebody who is just just some
Speaker 3: average resident, like this is somebody who knows, you know,
Speaker 3: what they're talking about. And so for him to come
Speaker 3: out and say this, he used the word negligent. I
Speaker 3: think he used the word criminally negligent. So those are
Speaker 3: some strong words, Yeah, they are.
Speaker 2: And you brought up the New Year's Day fire in
Speaker 2: the early morning hours and now as you know, that
Speaker 2: is being investigated as a potential cause.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's you know, two people who know, like
Speaker 3: it's possible that that fires just thatt there in the
Speaker 3: roots for a week in when the winds started kicking up.
Speaker 3: That's what kicked it up. It's possible. But I'm also
Speaker 3: hearing that they're investigating who else was up there. I
Speaker 3: believe there were a bunch of kids that were up
Speaker 3: there that were documented coming running down. So I know
Speaker 3: that they're looking at all the security cameras. You can't
Speaker 3: even get up there, you know, can't even access those trails.
Speaker 1: I've tried.
Speaker 3: So they have it all sectioned off, and investigators are
Speaker 3: up on the top of that ridge line. They were
Speaker 3: at least yesterday all day yesterday.
Speaker 1: Well, you mentioned criminal negligence. I mean, if indeed there
Speaker 1: can be sufficient evidence of that, you would expect that
Speaker 1: these lawsuits, some of which are already sort of germinating
Speaker 1: out of the Palisades and out of the eating fire too.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're two different kinds of sets of criminal
Speaker 1: complaints or legal complaints, civil complaints. They will be they'll
Speaker 1: be joined by many residents there who have lost everything.
Speaker 1: Rich mcku. It's a remarkable thing. Go ahead, you finishing that.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: I talked to a resident last night who's who told me, yes,
Speaker 3: she is going to be filing independently. You know, she
Speaker 3: she has she is not part of the suit, but
Speaker 3: those in the Pacific Policies, they've already filed suit against
Speaker 3: the city and against the Department of Water and Power
Speaker 3: for the fact that the Inez Reservoir reservoir was empty.
Speaker 3: So this is just the beginning of what's probably going
Speaker 3: to be a title wave of of of lawsuits.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that wave of already has already started.
Speaker 1: Indeed. Uh, yeah, well this is great, great reporting. We'll
Speaker 1: look to a news nation and Rich again is the
Speaker 1: national investigative correspondent there, and we appreciate it. Rich mccut
Speaker 1: thanks for checking in with the care fire. Thank you, Yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you. But former presidents Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, and
Speaker 1: George W. Bush not attending Donald Trump's traditional inaugural lunch.
Speaker 1: There is a lunch hosted by the president elect, and
Speaker 1: they are declining the invitation. George Bush Obama, and you
Speaker 1: know Hillary Clinton was invited to that too. She's not
Speaker 1: going to be doing that, former Secretary of State, and
Speaker 1: of course she ran against Trump.
Speaker 2: Again, not much of a surprise.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look, let's be honest. Trump himself didn't
Speaker 1: attend the inauguration of Joe Biden.
Speaker 2: However, they were all in attendance at Jimmy Carter's funeral,
Speaker 2: and all of the images between Obama and Trump, those
Speaker 2: weren't viral. They looked like they got along just fine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean in the moment, I mean, Obama seemed
Speaker 1: to bury the hatchet. And it's usually inauguration day one
Speaker 1: of the only occasions where all former living presidents congregate.
Speaker 1: You know, you'll usually find them at these inaugurations. But again,
Speaker 1: Trump didn't go to Biden's and now they're sort of
Speaker 1: a maybe a breakdown a bit of that tradition. What
Speaker 1: will be very much, it would seem a present, is
Speaker 1: the rise of those who are trying to I think,
Speaker 1: curry favor with Donald Trump. And there are a lot
Speaker 1: of tech bros in that group.
Speaker 2: I think they've already curried favor. Yeah, I think the
Speaker 2: trying is over. It's going to be a very tech
Speaker 2: titan heavy inauguration. Yeah, including TikTok Ceo shoo chew, shout
Speaker 2: chew if you say so. He has been invited and
Speaker 2: is expected to attend on Monday, and he will be
Speaker 2: sitting alongside Musk and Bezos and Zuckerberg. And it's noted
Speaker 2: here that the Google Ceo'ssun Dar.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is planning to attend, but he's going to
Speaker 2: sit with other executives.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of tech executives at this show.
Speaker 1: And you may say all of the ingratiating themselves to
Speaker 1: Trump is over. Marley. You may see it as through,
Speaker 1: because they did cut the million dollar checks for the
Speaker 1: inauguration fund, and they did go down to Marlago and
Speaker 1: have spent time there Zuckerberg and the rest. But I'd
Speaker 1: suggest to you it's an ongoing thing. I think it
Speaker 1: never really ends, you know.
Speaker 2: Well, and then there's a lot of people within Trump's
Speaker 2: circle who, you know, according to many reports, are a
Speaker 2: little annoyed by Musk's omnipresence, if you will. Yeah, he
Speaker 2: is ubiquitous in mar A Lago and always has the
Speaker 2: President's here. So yeah, to your point, I understand what.
Speaker 1: They're Batman and Robin Marlin. I don't know which one's
Speaker 1: Batman and which one's Robin, but they are tight. And again,
Speaker 1: you know, this is no surprise. The Supreme Court justices,
Speaker 1: they I believe, are in attendance typically. I mean they're
Speaker 1: older people and it's cold out there, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: I grew up in Washington, d C. And the invitation
Speaker 1: to the inauguration you may view as a real cool thing,
Speaker 1: and it probably is a cool thing, But I'm telling
Speaker 1: you that's a bad ticket. It's like being invited to
Speaker 1: the AFC playoff game championship game if it were in Buffalo,
Speaker 1: New York. So when the Bills host the AFC Championship
Speaker 1: game and you get, well, here you go, tickets on
Speaker 1: the fifty yard line.
Speaker 2: You know what, dude, you can pay me enough to
Speaker 2: sit there freeze my.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's five below and there's a win.
Speaker 2: Well it well to me, it's like the New York
Speaker 2: Times ball drop.
Speaker 1: Exactly where you're corraldone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, pardon me, you're corraldon and you have to
Speaker 2: be there. You can't leave. It's cold, it's miserable. I
Speaker 2: don't think it's supposed to be raining on Monday there,
Speaker 2: but it's gonna be cold.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be cold. I mean it's January in Washington,
Speaker 1: d C. It's cold. So all I'm saying is that
Speaker 1: it ain't the great ticket that necessarily one might think
Speaker 1: it is. But it's now going to be attended by
Speaker 1: a whole different texture of people than attended it in
Speaker 1: times past.
Speaker 2: It's the oligarchy that President Biden warned about last.
Speaker 1: Look, you can talk about how much of an influence
Speaker 1: they'll have. It would seem to me they will have
Speaker 1: a huge influence because this is a really clever incoming
Speaker 1: president when it comes to social media, and these are
Speaker 1: the heads of huge social media companies and tech companies.
Speaker 1: I mean to be fair, SpaceX Bezos has immense contracts
Speaker 1: with the US government. They have nothing to do with
Speaker 1: social media, and similarly Google, et cetera. So they definitely
Speaker 1: have big places at the table when it comes to
Speaker 1: the incoming administion.
Speaker 2: Well, and let's not forget that this comes the day
Speaker 2: after the TikTok ban could very well take effect, and
Speaker 2: you know, of course Trump is doing his part to
Speaker 2: delay a band or find a workaround. Now there reports
Speaker 2: NBC News is reporting that the Biden administration is weighing
Speaker 2: options that could keep TikTok available in the US if
Speaker 2: the ban is instituted. And if it does go into effect,
Speaker 2: it doesn't mean if you're an active user you can
Speaker 2: still use it. It just doesn't take new users. But
Speaker 2: even as an active user, eventually you won't be able
Speaker 2: to update and it'll become Yeah.
Speaker 1: I you know, I am on this. They're gonna save TikTok.
Speaker 1: There are just too many interests associated with TikTok for
Speaker 1: it to go away. But exactly how it will be
Speaker 1: saved that'll be interesting to see. TikTok TikTok. Co Belt
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