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Speaker 3: All right, and what then? What did you actually find?
Speaker 4: It looks like it looks like the back in the
Speaker 4: butt in an arm?
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Speaker 4: What is this?
Speaker 1: Nightmare?
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Speaker 1: of shit. Welcome to episode three fifty seven sword Scale.
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Speaker 1: kills any kind of creativity. It's early April at Warnemont Park, Wisconsin.
Speaker 1: It's around lunchtime and the wind is whipping off Lake Michigan,
Speaker 1: as it usually does. The grass above the bluff is
Speaker 1: still flattened from the winter. The golf course sign rattles
Speaker 1: in the background. Below the hill. The waves of Lake
Speaker 1: Michigan beat steadily against the rock and sand. Lake Michigan
Speaker 1: stretches for more than three hundred miles from north to south.
Speaker 1: It's early April and the water temperature is typically just
Speaker 1: above freezing. Even on calmer days, the wind pushes surface
Speaker 1: currents parallel to the shore. Two young men are walking
Speaker 1: near the bluff. They aren't looking for anything. They're just
Speaker 1: moving along the edge of the park, glancing down towards
Speaker 1: the shoreline the way people do. The winter weather has
Speaker 1: broken and they're enjoying the walk and conversation, even though
Speaker 1: it's still brisk out below them. The land drops towards
Speaker 1: the shoreline. It's a steep incline of dirt, grass and
Speaker 1: scattered rock. They take the path down to the sandy
Speaker 1: beach and start walking. Their footprints follow behind them. Then
Speaker 1: one of them notices something on the slope. It isn't
Speaker 1: at the bottom near the water. It's lodged part way
Speaker 1: up the bluff, about two thirds of the way up
Speaker 1: from the shoreline. Whatever it is is caught in the
Speaker 1: grass and loose soil. At first, it just looks like debris,
Speaker 1: but debris would be in pieces, and this is one
Speaker 1: large mass. As they walk closer wondering what it is,
Speaker 1: maybe a large fish of some sort, the shape resolves.
Speaker 1: It's not debris, it's not aquatic. It's pretty horrifying. Actually
Speaker 1: a foot with five toes. The toenails are painted neon pink.
Speaker 1: Now it's clear the foot is attached to a human leg.
Speaker 1: The lower portion is unshaven. The skin appears smooth. There
Speaker 1: are no visible tattoos, no visible scars. The foot is
Speaker 1: facing west, the top of the thigh facing east. The
Speaker 1: upper portion of the leg has been severed just below
Speaker 1: the ball of the thigh bone. Flesh and bone are exposed,
Speaker 1: but there's no blood. The skin at the cut edge
Speaker 1: forms a jagged, almost Z shaped pattern. The thigh bone
Speaker 1: its self appears partially cut through. For a moment, neither
Speaker 1: man speaks, but they exchange shocked expressions. The wind continues,
Speaker 1: then one of them pulls out his phone.
Speaker 6: Okay, where in.
Speaker 3: One of my park are you by the time?
Speaker 7: Where by the time by the golf course?
Speaker 3: Okay, what's going on there?
Speaker 8: Oh no, we just the lake the west, down by
Speaker 8: the whole lake on the quay.
Speaker 3: Follow what down there?
Speaker 4: Wor a worse human worst?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 9: Then we found that leg.
Speaker 10: Dude had team's his own hell phont Oh, well they.
Speaker 2: Can't for everyone on one it's been.
Speaker 3: Walking down, sir, hold on a second, Milwaukee County. If
Speaker 3: you guys have an officer and an ambulance to meet
Speaker 3: these two gentlemen at the.
Speaker 4: Parking lot by the golf course.
Speaker 3: Apparently they found the leg down by the down by
Speaker 3: the water.
Speaker 5: Yeah, are you guys any people?
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're a couple of deputies.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right, you're welcome.
Speaker 1: Deputies arrive. But by this time the leg is shifted location.
Speaker 1: It's not part way up the bluff where the men
Speaker 1: first saw it. Now it rests near the base, closer
Speaker 1: to the water line, and the waves are closing in
Speaker 1: on it. One of them is forced to move it
Speaker 1: carefully away from the water.
Speaker 11: Guys, I forgot to ask you who who was the
Speaker 11: one who actually called nine one one.
Speaker 5: Wasn't you okay?
Speaker 12: And then uh, when you guys initially seen the leg,
Speaker 12: where was it?
Speaker 5: It was just like on the beach. It was on
Speaker 5: the beach. It wasn't up on the hill.
Speaker 10: No, no, no, are they have fallen there? Since we
Speaker 10: were in the clay on the bike pointed.
Speaker 5: No, it's all good.
Speaker 2: It's all good.
Speaker 3: Like I said, you're not in trouble, dude, like any
Speaker 3: like a little detail could possibly help.
Speaker 5: So it was on the cliff and then it slid
Speaker 5: down or.
Speaker 8: Yeah, okay because when they got down there, he had
Speaker 8: moved it from by the rock because it was I
Speaker 8: was trying to point it by the cliff.
Speaker 5: Because it was by the cliff, It's like, where is it?
Speaker 13: And then we were walking and I looked down.
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, it's right there. He goes, oh shit. Okay,
Speaker 5: all right, cool, all right, I'll be right back with
Speaker 5: you guys.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, that was weird, right, not agreeing on
Speaker 1: where you spotted a human leg, because yeah, that wouldn't
Speaker 1: be burned into your memory forever. On that very same morning,
Speaker 1: April second, twenty twenty four, the Milwaukee Fire Department response
Speaker 1: to a vehicle fire in an alley behind a vacant
Speaker 1: building near twenty ninth Street. The call comes in just
Speaker 1: after sunrise. It's rain, the pavement is wet, and humidity
Speaker 1: is high in the alleys. It's a blue twenty twenty
Speaker 1: Honda Civic. Flames have already broken out and the car
Speaker 1: is engulfed. Firefighters extinguish the car quickly, and police have
Speaker 1: it towed to a secure impound lot. Later, investigators realized
Speaker 1: the fire did not start in the engine bay or
Speaker 1: the trunk. The damaged patterns are consistent with the fire
Speaker 1: that started inside the passenger compartment. In the burned vehicle,
Speaker 1: they find remnants of a fleece blanket and a purse.
Speaker 1: A handheld bicklighter is found in the back seat. On
Speaker 1: the front passenger floorboard, investigators find what's left of a
Speaker 1: green stuffed animal. When they take it from the car,
Speaker 1: they notice a strong odour consistent with petroleum distillate. The
Speaker 1: report notes the odor is overwhelming. Surveillance cameras in the
Speaker 1: area capture it in real time at approximately seven thirty am.
Speaker 1: Footage from a nearby building shows an unknown individual walking
Speaker 1: southbound from the direction of the vehicle fire In that
Speaker 1: same footage, two women can be heard shouting he did it,
Speaker 1: it's him, It's gonna explode. The figure continues walking southbound
Speaker 1: and disappears from the frame. Back at the lake, officers
Speaker 1: are still investigating the leg and wondering if this was
Speaker 1: a boating accident or something else.
Speaker 2: It makes it hard till I see where it came
Speaker 2: from because of the weather. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It feels dry and might be able to see like
Speaker 2: a path where it like slid down from what do you.
Speaker 12: Say, like right off your fight a stick and foot.
Speaker 5: So I don't think the waves will call that high.
Speaker 2: So I don't think it lost.
Speaker 7: Oh, I don't think so either. I don't think so either.
Speaker 7: I'm thinking I'm gonna take a wild guest say it
Speaker 7: was a dump job. Yeah, like they got stuck into
Speaker 7: the crack and now it's the radar takes the sif
Speaker 7: slide down, That's why I want to here he's come
Speaker 7: down and be like, hey, yeah, there's a feaver bug here.
Speaker 7: There's may the rest of the body. Otherwise I'll go
Speaker 7: over there see if there's anything else.
Speaker 1: Even at first glance, officers determined this was probably no
Speaker 1: boating accident. This was a dump job. This was someone
Speaker 1: dumping body parts over the cliffs and alongside the shoreline,
Speaker 1: and the police combed the beach for days. Nothing else
Speaker 1: surface there. They were no longer talking about the lake.
Speaker 1: They were talking about a person whose body parts might
Speaker 1: be scattered everywhere, and they were right. Two days later,
Speaker 1: another piece of human flesh would fit the puzzle, this
Speaker 1: time in a whole other state.
Speaker 14: Another gruesome discovery along the shores of Lake Michigan, this
Speaker 14: time in Waukegan, Illinois. The Lake County Corner says someone
Speaker 14: walking the beach Saturday night found a human right arm,
Speaker 14: believed to be a woman's. The coroner describes the arm
Speaker 14: as quote mostly intact.
Speaker 1: And another part of Milwaukee, a mother has been waiting
Speaker 1: for her nineteen year old daughter to call. They last
Speaker 1: spoke on April first, over FaceTime, and nothing about that
Speaker 1: conversation suggested it would be the last time they would talk.
Speaker 1: By April third, she hasn't heard from her, but this
Speaker 1: is only slightly unusual. Her daughter is extremely busy, working
Speaker 1: two jobs, including shifts at pizza Shuttle on Milwaukee's East Side.
Speaker 1: She's also a student at Milwaukee Area Technical College. And
Speaker 1: she has her own apartment in the Lower East Side.
Speaker 1: A routine is complex. Some mornings start early with work,
Speaker 1: some evenings and late, and classes fill up most of
Speaker 1: the gaps. When she's not working or studying, she spends
Speaker 1: time with her friend friends and tries to have a
Speaker 1: romantic life. She's been balancing adulthood in real time. Like
Speaker 1: the rest of us, paychecks, homework, rent, friendships. It wouldn't
Speaker 1: have been unusual for her to miss a call to
Speaker 1: text back later. It wouldn't have been out of the
Speaker 1: question for a day to pass quickly, but two days,
Speaker 1: two days felt different. Her phone has not responded, she
Speaker 1: hasn't returned messages, no one has heard her voice. For
Speaker 1: someone juggling two jobs in college, disappearing without a word
Speaker 1: just doesn't fit. Friends have also noticed, all right.
Speaker 15: Josh, So, Yeah, the reason I'm calling you is I'm
Speaker 15: calling in regards to uh Soda Robinson And could you
Speaker 15: just kind of like inform me how you know her
Speaker 15: and when the last time you talked to her.
Speaker 16: Yeah, We've been talking for like, i'd say, about a
Speaker 16: month since I moved to Rochester, Minnesota. But I mean
Speaker 16: I'm from Milwaukee, so I had met her before last weekend.
Speaker 16: It was my birthday, so I came home for like
Speaker 16: four days or whatever, and we ended up hanging out
Speaker 16: multiple times. Saturday, I ended up staying at her place,
Speaker 16: stayed till Sunday morning, and then I left.
Speaker 13: I did some other things during the day whatever, hung
Speaker 13: out with my family or whatever.
Speaker 16: And then Sunday night it was Easter like I met
Speaker 16: her little like.
Speaker 13: Easter basket or whatever.
Speaker 16: I brought it to her at her grandparents place, so
Speaker 16: I met her family and everything.
Speaker 13: And then Sunday night, I mean something that I saw.
Speaker 16: Or at her grandparents stayed there for about an hour
Speaker 16: and then I left, and then that was the last time.
Speaker 13: I physically saw her. We were texting everything.
Speaker 16: The last text I got from her was three twelve
Speaker 16: pm on Monday, literally right before work.
Speaker 13: She said, have a good day at work.
Speaker 1: After that night, no one hears from her, no texts,
Speaker 1: no calls, no explanation, and by the time her mother
Speaker 1: has realized something is truly wrong, it has already been
Speaker 1: two days. What investigators are facing isn't just a disappearance.
Speaker 1: It's a human puzzle, and they don't yet know how
Speaker 1: many pieces there are where they are or what happened
Speaker 1: to her, But their best guess is murder. On a
Speaker 1: chilly afternoon in April of twenty twenty four, two young
Speaker 1: men took a walk down to Warnemont Park near Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
Speaker 1: As they make their way down the bluffs to the shoreline,
Speaker 1: one of them caught sight of a gruesome piece of landscape,
Speaker 1: a human leg caught in the weeds. One of them
Speaker 1: described it as looking like a Mannikin's leg, smooth dark skin,
Speaker 1: no blood whatsoever, only jagged pieces of rubbery flesh surrounding
Speaker 1: tissue muscle, and a femur bone with sharp spiky edges.
Speaker 1: The medical examiner would later testify about the force required
Speaker 1: to break the bone and remove the limb. Deputies responded
Speaker 1: and secured the area the leg had been lodged part
Speaker 1: way down the slope above the reach of the waves.
Speaker 1: That same morning, miles away in Milwaukee, a twenty twenty
Speaker 1: hontasivic was found in gulfed in flames. Surveillance cameras captured
Speaker 1: a figure walking southbound from the direction of the fire
Speaker 1: just after seven thirty am, while two women shouted from
Speaker 1: nearby as smoke filled the air. Two days later, along
Speaker 1: the shoreline in Waukegan, Illinois, a human r washed ashore.
Speaker 1: By then, what had looked like a single horrific find
Speaker 1: along a Milwaukee bluff had stretched across state lines, and
Speaker 1: in Milwaukee, a nineteen year old college student named Shade
Speaker 1: Carlina Robinson had stopped answering her phone. Concerned friends and
Speaker 1: family checked in with Chade's Life three sixty app, including
Speaker 1: a best friend she'd known since grade school.
Speaker 17: When you found out that Shade was missing, did you
Speaker 17: ever check Life three sixty?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 5: Did you also have Find My Phone app?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 5: Is that a similar kind of service?
Speaker 2: Yes, just through iPhone?
Speaker 17: So once through iPhone to find my app, and then
Speaker 17: there's a whole separate app Life three sixty right.
Speaker 5: Yes, you shared your location with her on both yes?
Speaker 17: When you contacted law enforcement, what information did you want
Speaker 17: to provide them?
Speaker 2: My last.
Speaker 5: With the apps, her last locations that I had on
Speaker 5: my phone.
Speaker 1: Shade's mother and friends contacted officers for a welfare check,
Speaker 1: but before anything else unfolded, her friends had already been
Speaker 1: checking her social media. This is Josh again, the friend
Speaker 1: Shahda had been talking to.
Speaker 13: What I saw on her story was that she went
Speaker 13: on o to like dukes on water.
Speaker 2: Okay. Was it on Sunday or Monday?
Speaker 18: Or what? Monday?
Speaker 2: Monday? Okay? Did you see anybody in the photo at all?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 13: I just saw some palm coups.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 9: So the reason I'm calling is nobody has heard from
Speaker 9: her since Monday, and she she's missing. So today's Friday
Speaker 9: and we're trying to put some pieces of this puzzle together.
Speaker 2: So is there any information that you could provide?
Speaker 1: You had seen her story. She went out and was
Speaker 1: meeting someone pretty normal. This wasn't out of character, It
Speaker 1: wasn't alarming.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 16: No, The last thing I know is that she went
Speaker 16: out Monday night. She went drinking and she said something
Speaker 16: about like I shouldn't do this again or stuff. I
Speaker 16: didn't see anyone in the photo.
Speaker 2: When you say she shouldn't do it again? What what
Speaker 2: does she mean by that?
Speaker 9: Like?
Speaker 2: Was that snapchat? Was that a something like that?
Speaker 1: Ja Day wasn't known to be a partier. Her friends
Speaker 1: and family knew her to be a responsible young adult
Speaker 1: with military lineage. Her grandfather was a retired US Navy
Speaker 1: veteran and her uncle was a US Army veteran. Jade
Speaker 1: herself had been considering joining the US Air Force and
Speaker 1: was studying criminal justice with plans that included military service.
Speaker 1: At the same time, she was a normal young adult
Speaker 1: who liked to socialize.
Speaker 2: Okay, what time was that at?
Speaker 16: I say she went there after work?
Speaker 2: Okay, so she was was that? Was that a text
Speaker 2: message here? Or was that on her Snapchat or Instagram?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: And that was at Duke's or was that different? Barer?
Speaker 13: It was at Dukes, but I think she went somewhere else.
Speaker 1: His friend Josh wasn't the only one to report she
Speaker 1: was meeting someone, so did her best friend?
Speaker 17: Do you remember her talking to you about a person
Speaker 17: she had met at the bar?
Speaker 19: I can't remember the place, but I remember she met somebody.
Speaker 5: Would that have been the weekend prior?
Speaker 19: Like with the dates, I can't remember the exact dates.
Speaker 19: I just remember before this incident she told me about
Speaker 19: some person who was but she met at a bar.
Speaker 5: The bar part I can't remember.
Speaker 1: Investigators would later retrace Schade's movements that night using phone data.
Speaker 1: Her phone first left Pizza Shuttle, where she worked earlier
Speaker 1: that day. It then traveled to a restaurant along the
Speaker 1: Milwaukee River, the Twisted Fisherman. Surveillance cameras outside the restaurant
Speaker 1: also captured Shade entering wearing a white top, black puffy
Speaker 1: jacket and jeans. Later that night, the phone moved moved again,
Speaker 1: this time to Dukes on Water, a busy bar on
Speaker 1: Water Street. After that, the signal went south across the
Speaker 1: city to a residence. Then in the early morning hours,
Speaker 1: the phone traveled one last time towards the Lake Michigan
Speaker 1: shoreline warn Amont Park. But at that point, investigators still
Speaker 1: didn't know whose house Shade went to that night, and
Speaker 1: they didn't know who she was meeting. So detectives dug
Speaker 1: deeper with their friend Josh, and it turned out they
Speaker 1: may have been more than friends.
Speaker 16: I say, we were really good friends, like starting to
Speaker 16: perform like a relationship, kind of like boyf and girlfriends.
Speaker 2: Kind of thing.
Speaker 9: Did you like go in a pizza shuttle and just
Speaker 9: start talking to her. Is at the work you're referencing
Speaker 9: pizza shuttle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was as a register or whatever, And then
Speaker 2: you're just getting.
Speaker 16: The kind of just shot the crap, like we're like, yeah,
Speaker 16: we're from Hartford or whatever. She's like, oh, I got
Speaker 16: to go to Hartford and then we just kind of
Speaker 16: talked for a little.
Speaker 2: Bit from there, and then you got her number?
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 2: Okay, did you give her your number? Or is she
Speaker 2: gets your number?
Speaker 3: I asked for hers?
Speaker 9: Okay, I have kind of a personal question to ask you.
Speaker 9: And I'm only saying this because I've interviewed her co
Speaker 9: workers and some of her friends.
Speaker 2: Did they? So here's what I'm trying to get some
Speaker 2: pieces of this puzzle together.
Speaker 9: And they keep referencing a guy and I don't know
Speaker 9: if the guy is you or some other guy, but
Speaker 9: did they ever refer to you as the virgin?
Speaker 4: They did?
Speaker 1: Poor Josh. Obviously, he and Shote hadn't had sex, even
Speaker 1: though they'd been hanging out together, and the nickname pretty
Speaker 1: much said it all. But Josh wasn't the one she
Speaker 1: was meeting that night.
Speaker 2: The thing is on Monday, April.
Speaker 9: First, she works nine to five and then she goes
Speaker 9: to the Twisted Fisherman with some other unknown guy and
Speaker 9: that's the last time we see her.
Speaker 2: And now I understand that she goes to Dukes.
Speaker 9: We're trying to get surrealans video from that, but we're
Speaker 9: trying to determine who this unknown guy is.
Speaker 2: So was there, go ahead.
Speaker 17: I have a question for you.
Speaker 13: Do you so you kind of know what the unknown
Speaker 13: guy looks like?
Speaker 20: Uh?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 13: Did you have a little bit longer here?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Oh shit, okay, so she was telling me that.
Speaker 3: So when we went out.
Speaker 16: Saturday night or whatever, you know, and then her friends
Speaker 16: and everything, ohly shit, that's crazy. There was this one
Speaker 16: guy was long hair, kind of looked kind.
Speaker 13: Of like a hick a little bit, not too much.
Speaker 20: But a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And when we got there to kind of like tapt.
Speaker 13: Hers, He's like, hey, shata and then she's like and
Speaker 13: then obviously you know I was with her.
Speaker 2: This is on Saturday, he said, No, okay, where.
Speaker 16: Was that celebrate friend's birthday?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 16: He you know, I said hey or whatever. And then
Speaker 16: you know, I was hanging out with her, met her
Speaker 16: friends or whatever. So you know, they were talking or whatever.
Speaker 16: We were having a good time. You know, we were
Speaker 16: drinking or whatever.
Speaker 2: Not that I mean.
Speaker 16: I wasn't drinking because the night before it was my
Speaker 16: birthday and I drank way too much, so I felt
Speaker 16: like shit.
Speaker 1: So she was drinking, you know, like I was.
Speaker 16: Made sure she got home okay or whatever.
Speaker 21: She told me at the end, of the night.
Speaker 16: She said, yeah, you know this one guy.
Speaker 13: He was he told me that, you know, he liked
Speaker 13: me or something like that. And I was like, well,
Speaker 13: she's not even my type. And I said, oh, what's
Speaker 13: your type? She said, oh, you're my type, and she's
Speaker 13: like yeah.
Speaker 2: He was really really mad.
Speaker 1: According to what Shata told Josh, this guy was upset
Speaker 1: because he was crushing on her. Earlier that day, Shade
Speaker 1: went mini golfing with friends and ran into this guy.
Speaker 1: He must have asked her out, and she turned him
Speaker 1: down because of her plans with Josh. Josh remembered Shade
Speaker 1: telling him that this guy just wasn't her type, but
Speaker 1: then they ran into him that night.
Speaker 13: If I had to put.
Speaker 16: Money on it, if you saw a guy with long hair,
Speaker 16: it was probably this dude, because he had I think
Speaker 16: he had liked her and she wasn't into.
Speaker 13: Him, and I think she got pissed off when.
Speaker 2: He saw me.
Speaker 8: He didn't say.
Speaker 13: Anything, but that's what she told me. She you know,
Speaker 13: as we're looking, she doesn't really notice him. She kind
Speaker 13: of tested her and says, hey, Shaw, and she's like oh,
Speaker 13: and because you know, they.
Speaker 3: Had seen each other golfing and then the girls.
Speaker 17: I mean.
Speaker 16: Then I continued and the girls were talking and she said, yeah,
Speaker 16: my friends really like you. There's this one dude though,
Speaker 16: and he said he was like crushing on me or whatever.
Speaker 16: And he said that he doesn't really open up to
Speaker 16: girls about his feelings and.
Speaker 13: Shit like this.
Speaker 16: So that's why I think there could actually be a motive,
Speaker 16: look like jealousy or some shit like that.
Speaker 1: Josh the Virgin was easy to talk to. He was
Speaker 1: providing a lot of insight into Shade's last movements, insight
Speaker 1: that even her mother couldn't provide. So not only was
Speaker 1: this long haired guy a possible person of interest, but
Speaker 1: Josh remembered even more.
Speaker 16: The only other guy that I know that could have
Speaker 16: maybe done something that I highly doubt.
Speaker 5: It was her neighbor.
Speaker 2: Is that that real guy?
Speaker 3: Okay, now, I.
Speaker 13: Guess you keep doing good and you're poking my mind.
Speaker 16: So I guess if there were three guys, I would
Speaker 16: think of, be that guy from the bar if he
Speaker 16: had long hair.
Speaker 13: There was an old ex about a.
Speaker 16: Month and a month and a half ago. She kind
Speaker 16: of got over him.
Speaker 2: I think he was still on her, like.
Speaker 13: He called her and was still talking to the family
Speaker 13: and stuff.
Speaker 5: So that could be it.
Speaker 2: He's a truck driver, white dude, black dude, his fan.
Speaker 13: Dude, Shit, I think he was black.
Speaker 16: I mean, I think you're the first white guy that
Speaker 16: she stated, because I met her family, they weren't expecting.
Speaker 13: A white guy.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's kind of like what her friends said
Speaker 2: as well.
Speaker 22: So it's that neighbor.
Speaker 1: But all Josh could remember shot A saying about the
Speaker 1: neighbor guy was that he convinced her to try some
Speaker 1: of his gummies and she borrowed his phone charger.
Speaker 13: So that's all I really know about that neighbor dude.
Speaker 16: That other X It's something you probably should be aware of,
Speaker 16: is that I'd say, two weeks before this, her car
Speaker 16: was broken into.
Speaker 5: Yep, and they didn't take any of her personal stuff.
Speaker 13: It was more of like a statement they just broke
Speaker 13: her windows.
Speaker 3: They didn't, and they took her cover wheel of her driving.
Speaker 2: Like the steering column. Yeah, so if you were to look.
Speaker 13: Into it, I'd say it'd probably be one of those
Speaker 13: three guys.
Speaker 1: Josh had just given detectives three directions a possible break
Speaker 1: in involving Shade's car, a neighbor who may have made
Speaker 1: her uncomfortable and the man she had gone out with
Speaker 1: that night. At that point, investigators couldn't rule any of
Speaker 1: them out. Every lead had to be checked. But while
Speaker 1: detectives were still sorting through those possibilities, more body parts
Speaker 1: were surfacing. Some were found along Milwaukee's lakefront, others appeared
Speaker 1: miles away, scattered across different parts of the city. One
Speaker 1: discovery happened on the north side of Milwaukee. A passer
Speaker 1: by strolling through the park notices something in the grass
Speaker 1: in a playground area not far from where Shade's burned
Speaker 1: car had been discovered. At first, it looks like debris,
Speaker 1: some water it up, paper bag, or maybe a discarded
Speaker 1: child's toy. Whatever it is, it shouldn't be there. The
Speaker 1: person moves closer and figures they'll just throw it away
Speaker 1: whatever it is, in a nearby garbage can. But now
Speaker 1: they see what it is. A human foot. The skin
Speaker 1: is dark and flaps of flesh poke up around where
Speaker 1: the ankle would be. The toenails are neon pink. Investigators
Speaker 1: are called and find additional pieces of human tissue nearby,
Speaker 1: tissue that is much larger and looks like it was
Speaker 1: carved from or fell away from someone's stomach or thigh.
Speaker 1: Another grim discovery happened while a woman walked her dog
Speaker 1: on the beach in South Milwaukee.
Speaker 11: You can still see footprints all over this remote beach.
Speaker 11: That's a long Lake Michigan here in South Milwaukee.
Speaker 2: It's yards from my front door.
Speaker 11: Someone walking the remote beach. Around seven thirty this mo
Speaker 11: found a torso in an arm just yards away from
Speaker 11: Angela Buchanan's home.
Speaker 5: I'm definitely on edge now.
Speaker 11: The Milwaukee County Sheriff's Office believes the body parts belonged
Speaker 11: to nineteen year old shad A Robinson.
Speaker 22: This is not something that anybody should have to go through,
Speaker 22: especially such a young girl. It just kind of makes
Speaker 22: me like scared now to kind of want to come
Speaker 22: down here with my dog, you know, and do what
Speaker 22: we do every day, because now it's gonna am I
Speaker 22: gonna come down here and be the next one that's
Speaker 22: gonna find more body parts.
Speaker 1: The worst fear in shot A Robinson's case was confirmed
Speaker 1: the body parts belonged to her. What started as a
Speaker 1: missing person's investigation was now officially a homicide. While detectives
Speaker 1: chased leads across Milwaukee. Shade's family and friends, we're doing
Speaker 1: something else entirely. They were searching for pieces of her.
Speaker 1: They walked the lakefront, they checked parks, they scared the shoreline,
Speaker 1: hoping to find anything that might help bring the rest
Speaker 1: of Shade home. For Shade's mother, one thought repeated in
Speaker 1: her mind that even after everything that was done to her,
Speaker 1: Shade had still managed to leave behind the clues investigators needed.
Speaker 20: Shade is forever. She will be forever remembered as an angel,
Speaker 20: a light worker who's touched so many souls, so many
Speaker 20: lives in the Milwaukee community.
Speaker 2: She is our hero.
Speaker 20: She is forever leaving an imprint.
Speaker 1: She walked in her own paths her own light. She
Speaker 1: saw her own case.
Speaker 2: My baby saw of her own case.
Speaker 13: That's how I raised my kids.
Speaker 2: We don't give up.
Speaker 1: We are fighters, Shade's mother was.
Speaker 18: Right.
Speaker 1: Before Shade disappeared, she left behind a trail of clues, texts, messages, pictures.
Speaker 1: As intrusive as social media is, these small moments shared
Speaker 1: with friends in real time would act as digital breadcrumbs.
Speaker 1: But investigators weren't relying on digital evidence alone. There was
Speaker 1: also the matter of Shade's car. Not long after she vanished,
Speaker 1: her charred vehicle was found burned in an alley near
Speaker 1: the playground where her foot was discovered. At first glance,
Speaker 1: it was obvious someone had tried to destroy it, but
Speaker 1: detectives noticed something about the inside of the car that
Speaker 1: just didn't sit right the driver's seat. The seat in
Speaker 1: Shade's car had been set for someone much taller. This
Speaker 1: is when detectives started closing in on the man shaw
Speaker 1: De went out with the night she disappeared, Maxwell Anderson.
Speaker 1: Max lived on Milwaukee's South Side, and as detectives compared notes,
Speaker 1: they realized he matched the description Josh had given in
Speaker 1: his interview. Josh had mentioned a mand shot a ran
Speaker 1: into days earlier, someone she turned down for a date
Speaker 1: when she went mini golfing with friends, but the man
Speaker 1: hadn't disappeared from her life. Just days later, she agreed
Speaker 1: to go on a first date with him. Max was
Speaker 1: twenty three years old. To most people who knew him,
Speaker 1: he seemed quiet, soft spoken, the kind of person who
Speaker 1: kept mostly to himself. He worked as a bartender and
Speaker 1: owned a house where he subletted to a roommate.
Speaker 2: And we're talking about Maxwell Anderson and yeah, okay, just
Speaker 2: clarifying that, and.
Speaker 5: Is he on this residence.
Speaker 12: He says that he does, but I mean, and he
Speaker 12: also suddenly he put like forty thousand dollars down on
Speaker 12: this and bought the place. But I don't see how
Speaker 12: if he only worked two days a week, how he
Speaker 12: could afford this place to begin with. I don't know
Speaker 12: if maybe his dad helped him out. I know his
Speaker 12: dad will sometimes I'll get like Steven Anderson mail here,
Speaker 12: So I don't know if he helped him out by
Speaker 12: it or something like that. He was real flexible with rent,
Speaker 12: which is why, which is one of the reasons why
Speaker 12: I wanted to stay here.
Speaker 1: To paint a picture for you. Max looked like an
Speaker 1: urban lumberjack version of Brad Pitt, if that helps.
Speaker 5: Did he have a girlfriend? Was he in a relationship
Speaker 5: with anybody that you know?
Speaker 12: I know that he texted me about on March eighth
Speaker 12: and said that he had just broken up with this
Speaker 12: girl named Maya and he was feeling really.
Speaker 13: Bad about it.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 12: I don't know if you know that has anything to
Speaker 12: do with anything, But he's always had girls, you know.
Speaker 12: I wouldn't say a ladies man, but he's also always
Speaker 12: had like girl companions.
Speaker 13: Over and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, When detectives interviewed his most recent ex Maya, she
Speaker 1: painted the picture of what seemed like a normal relationship.
Speaker 18: We're probably going to ask you some personal questions. If
Speaker 18: you choose to answer, cool, if you don't want, you
Speaker 18: not totally get it. But there's a lot of pieces
Speaker 18: to this puzzle that we're trying to put together, and
Speaker 18: some of the things that you might know might really
Speaker 18: really help us.
Speaker 1: One of those personal questions was how many times Maya
Speaker 1: had had sex with him in the span of about
Speaker 1: two months they'd been seeing each other, And of course
Speaker 1: what was the sex like, So would you say.
Speaker 2: All times twenty fifty?
Speaker 20: Probably like go with like twelve, Okay, maybe.
Speaker 18: When you guys were hooking up, was there any like
Speaker 18: kind of communication, whether through the phone or in person,
Speaker 18: where he was like he expressed like any fantasy things
Speaker 18: that he wanted to do.
Speaker 2: No, No, you know, I didn't.
Speaker 5: Really have any like weird.
Speaker 2: He just like he didn't express like anything quote unquote
Speaker 2: not the average and you would do.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 6: No, he was like very just.
Speaker 5: Basic, like.
Speaker 2: Like and very just gentle.
Speaker 20: He never like screamed at me or like he never
Speaker 20: put his hands on me.
Speaker 1: Ever, this didn't seem like killer type behavior. Maya went
Speaker 1: on to explain that early in their relationship, her dog
Speaker 1: was sick and she needed to put him down. She
Speaker 1: remembered Max asking to meet the dog and said he
Speaker 1: was kind to him. In fact, he had two dogs
Speaker 1: of his own that were well cared for. Although his
Speaker 1: roommate portrayed him to be a big drinker, Maya said
Speaker 1: she didn't go for that.
Speaker 2: Did you think that alcohol and Max were an issue
Speaker 2: or no?
Speaker 5: So?
Speaker 20: I I mean, obviously I didn't really know him for
Speaker 20: that long, but I'm pretty sure he was a pretty
Speaker 20: frequent drinker. And I kind of go through phases of
Speaker 20: that too, depending on who I'm hanging out with. But
Speaker 20: like I when we were seeing each other, like I
Speaker 20: talked to him on multiple occasions like hey, like I
Speaker 20: know I having fun, but like I really don't want
Speaker 20: to be like drinking and going out this much like
Speaker 20: I like to be in the gym every day. I
Speaker 20: like to feel good and get my shit done.
Speaker 2: And he was like on board with it.
Speaker 20: He was like, yeah, I'll like, I'm down to not drink.
Speaker 20: He started going to the gym, like he he was
Speaker 20: trying to put his life together.
Speaker 1: It seemed like once he met me, but once he
Speaker 1: met her, his timetable didn't quite line up with hers.
Speaker 1: He seemed all in I was talking to.
Speaker 20: Him or dates with him, and then he was moving
Speaker 20: things way too more quickly than I wanted him to matchis. Yeah,
Speaker 20: he was like trying to move things very, very quickly.
Speaker 20: I don't have a good experience with people moving quickly
Speaker 20: in the past, so I kept telling him I wanted
Speaker 20: to slow down. And you say he wanted to move
Speaker 20: things quickly, Like, what do you mean?
Speaker 12: Like was his.
Speaker 20: Did he say anything?
Speaker 2: I think?
Speaker 13: Was he?
Speaker 20: I mean, he introduced me to a lot of his
Speaker 20: friends right away. He wanted me to go to South
Speaker 20: Carolina and use mom AND's sister, and he booked flights
Speaker 20: for us to do that. He would call me his
Speaker 20: girlfriend even though I wasn't his girlfriend.
Speaker 1: Just to be clear, you know that in twenty twenty six,
Speaker 1: you can't be boyfriend girlfriend until the question is asked
Speaker 1: and the words are spoken. I mean, you can have
Speaker 1: sex twelve or twenty times and go on multiple dates,
Speaker 1: but that's just talking. That's nothing serious, you know. Anyway,
Speaker 1: the more questions detectives asked, the more sides of Max
Speaker 1: came to the surface, and so I did go.
Speaker 20: On a date with someone else and he did not
Speaker 20: want to March. First, I was working on off early
Speaker 20: and I went out to dug out another other bar
Speaker 20: next door with the guy that I was at Luxulfage
Speaker 20: with and I was hanging out with him and his friends,
Speaker 20: and then my coworker called me. She's like, my Max
Speaker 20: just showed up looking for you, and I was like, what,
Speaker 20: because he normally works Friday nights. Where was he looking
Speaker 20: for you at? He came into my bar looking for me,
Speaker 20: thinking I was still at work first, but he didn't
Speaker 20: text me or anything. He was like trying to surprise me.
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 1: She was surprised, but not in a good way. She
Speaker 1: says that Max then started hanging out with her and
Speaker 1: the two guys she was with, but he was upset
Speaker 1: when one of them flirted with her. Max stormed out
Speaker 1: and she later told him she needed space. She should
Speaker 1: be able to hang out with whoever she wants. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: they had planned to go to the Many golf course
Speaker 1: in a few days, but now she wanted to blow
Speaker 1: him off. She said she didn't want to go with him,
Speaker 1: but she went anyway. That's when things escalated.
Speaker 20: I told him I didn't want to go with him anymore,
Speaker 20: and I told him that I wasn't going to go
Speaker 20: in general.
Speaker 8: But he must have.
Speaker 20: I don't know if he just like sat there all
Speaker 20: night in the parking lot, like looking for me to
Speaker 20: show up there or what. But I went there at
Speaker 20: like seven thirty eight pm.
Speaker 2: Or his name is Chris.
Speaker 20: When we went there with Chris, we played golf. I
Speaker 20: was going to talk to a manager there because I
Speaker 20: used to work at Looks Golf Base, and I was
Speaker 20: about to swing and hit the golf ball and I
Speaker 20: hear behind me he's like, you better not get too
Speaker 20: close to the edge.
Speaker 2: You might fall off.
Speaker 20: I thought I was maybe like an old coworker like
Speaker 20: messing with me. I turn around in Max's there and
Speaker 20: like basically blew up that I was there with Chris
Speaker 20: is a different guy.
Speaker 16: And then he.
Speaker 20: Stormed off, and we were on the third floor, so
Speaker 20: we could like see the whole parking lot, so we
Speaker 20: were watching to see if he was gonna leave.
Speaker 2: He got in his car, he drove, but.
Speaker 20: He reparked, so we're like, oh shit, what is he
Speaker 20: gonna do? He circled Chris's car. He knew what Chris's
Speaker 20: car looked like because of when we went out that
Speaker 20: Friday before, So he circled Chris's car once, went back
Speaker 20: to his car, start from it twice, went back to
Speaker 20: his car, and he did it like four times, and
Speaker 20: like what is he doing the fourth time? A waunch,
Speaker 20: A police cars show up and he drives off immediately.
Speaker 5: Once the police cars.
Speaker 1: Show up, You're probably thinking that Maya and her friend
Speaker 1: called the police on Max. Well, you'd be wrong. It
Speaker 1: was the other way around. Not only did Max call
Speaker 1: the car, but he also smashed out her friend's tail
Speaker 1: light and gave the police his license plate, telling them
Speaker 1: the guy was driving drunk. He was hoping the police
Speaker 1: would follow the friend and pull him over for the
Speaker 1: smashed tail light or even give him a dui. Maya
Speaker 1: was Max's most recent girlfriend slash not girlfriend. Although he
Speaker 1: was pretty devastated when she told him that he needed
Speaker 1: space and didn't know if she could get over what
Speaker 1: he did, he did not take his frustrations out on her.
Speaker 1: This was March, just one month before Shade would disappear.
Speaker 1: But Maya also remembered something else Max had said.
Speaker 18: Once, I know it's an uncomfortable I know, having sex
Speaker 18: is a weird thing to talk about, and I get it.
Speaker 18: We're all adults in the room. It's just something that
Speaker 18: we were kind of looking into, and that's.
Speaker 20: All very gentle, more so than like some whole lot
Speaker 20: of guys have been with And even like he made
Speaker 20: a comment, He's like, I think it's weird how some
Speaker 20: girls like want to be choked. I feel like he's like,
Speaker 20: I really don't like doing that.
Speaker 1: Max had brought up the subject of choking during sex,
Speaker 1: not in a threatening way. If anything, he sounded almost
Speaker 1: disgusted by it. He told her he couldn't understand why
Speaker 1: some women liked that. Maya said Max had always been
Speaker 1: gentle with her, and when their relationship fell apart, he
Speaker 1: seemed genuinely hurt by it. At the time, it didn't
Speaker 1: seem like an important detail, but detectives would remember it
Speaker 1: later because Maya wasn't the only woman investigators spoke to.
Speaker 1: Even before Shade and Maya, there was another young woman.
Speaker 1: We're gonna call her Sherry for privacy, and what Sherry
Speaker 1: would eventually say would send chills down the spines of
Speaker 1: the most seasoned detectives.
Speaker 18: I've talked to two of his ex girlfriends, and I
Speaker 18: just keep saying the same thing. We're working a case
Speaker 18: where there's a girl who disappeared, and it's pretty much
Speaker 18: just a big puzzle piece right now. I'm trying to
Speaker 18: put everything together so your answers might be able to
Speaker 18: help us figure out what was going on. So when
Speaker 18: did you guys start dating?
Speaker 23: We started talking November twenty one, dating March ish twenty two.
Speaker 20: It was like kind of on and off, and then
Speaker 20: I completely.
Speaker 2: Cut them off.
Speaker 23: I would say March or April twenty three.
Speaker 2: How did you guys meet?
Speaker 20: Heartbreakers?
Speaker 2: Heartbreakers?
Speaker 5: How works?
Speaker 20: There?
Speaker 2: Does a dnswer? Okay, what did he do there?
Speaker 5: Marten?
Speaker 2: Did you guys just start talking or what was the connection?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 20: We would just talk and I was single, I mean single.
Speaker 24: I was looking for somebody older, kind of at their
Speaker 24: life or put together.
Speaker 20: So I was like, oh, like this could work.
Speaker 1: When detectives sat down with Sherry, the story she told
Speaker 1: started in a way investigators had heard before. At first,
Speaker 1: Max seemed quiet, reserved, almost shy, but that didn't last.
Speaker 23: I mean we would just like constantly get in fights.
Speaker 23: So he's either like really really mean and just like.
Speaker 25: Using anything he could, like any insecurity I had.
Speaker 5: He wasn't ever.
Speaker 25: Like physical with me, though, Yeah, he'd always he'd either
Speaker 25: be super super mean or like super loving. There wasn't
Speaker 25: like that in between.
Speaker 20: He would call me a slut. Before he had this
Speaker 20: weird obsession with my ex boyfriend. They ended up getting
Speaker 20: in like a bar fight on the same Pattie's.
Speaker 23: Day two years ago, and then ever since then he
Speaker 23: was just like obsessed with him. So he'd always like
Speaker 23: whenever we got in fights, like oh, like why didn't
Speaker 23: you go fuck Jack?
Speaker 2: Or like so immature, like it's that's my name, that.
Speaker 1: Funny, funny, creepy, not sure which, but go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 21: And then.
Speaker 26: With all the drinking that I was doing when I
Speaker 26: was with him, I obviously gained weight and like, no,
Speaker 26: I wasn't a teenager anymore, and.
Speaker 24: He told me he liked me like eighteen, okay, So
Speaker 24: as I was like aging and then drinking, I was
Speaker 24: gaining weight, and like at first single day it would.
Speaker 20: Be like I don't want you to eat all of that,
Speaker 20: just watching like how much.
Speaker 25: I was eating, called me like a fat horror like
Speaker 25: every day, told.
Speaker 5: Me even if I did lose the weight, I'd never
Speaker 5: be able to keep it off, so.
Speaker 1: Sherry told detectives Max could swing between extremes affection at
Speaker 1: one moment cruel the next. Arguments became more frequent, and sometimes,
Speaker 1: Sherry said, Max would talk about revenge, not just arguments.
Speaker 1: Plans weird plans.
Speaker 25: My best friend ended up moving in with my ex boyfriend.
Speaker 2: Ex boyfriend with Jack. Yes, okay, so.
Speaker 25: My best friend Lexi ended up moving in with Jack.
Speaker 23: Good and Max was like, Jack took your friend from you,
Speaker 23: I'm going to take I took you his last girl,
Speaker 23: Now I'm going to take his next girl. So he
Speaker 23: reached out to Lexi.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 25: There was one instance where he knew Jack worked on
Speaker 25: Brady Street, so he told me he was going to
Speaker 25: Bertie Street to.
Speaker 4: Find his car.
Speaker 23: I don't know if this ever happened or not, because
Speaker 23: at this point it was like I.
Speaker 26: Was trying to leave him, so it was really distancing myself,
Speaker 26: so I don't know exactly.
Speaker 27: At one point he asked me to invite Jack over
Speaker 27: to my place.
Speaker 25: And to beat myself up in the bathroom and call
Speaker 25: the police to get Jack arrested.
Speaker 13: And he said either I do that.
Speaker 5: Or he will do it himself.
Speaker 1: This was becoming a theme similar to what Maya had
Speaker 1: told detectives, jealousy, possessiveness, and weird revenge plots. And then
Speaker 1: came the questions about their sex life. Sherry's version was
Speaker 1: slightly different from Maya's, So this was.
Speaker 2: For about a year?
Speaker 5: Okay, in a year?
Speaker 2: Did you guys have sex a lot in the beginning?
Speaker 5: At the beginning? Yes?
Speaker 2: How often do you remember, do you?
Speaker 20: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Two times a day when I say?
Speaker 5: And then when did it start like dwindling down?
Speaker 20: When I started getting made?
Speaker 2: Okay? Did he ever make videos with you? Okay? How
Speaker 2: many do you think? Okay? Does he have the videos?
Speaker 2: Or do you have the videos? Did he ever send
Speaker 2: them to you? Okay? By chance?
Speaker 20: Do you?
Speaker 2: By chance? Do you have a tattoo?
Speaker 3: Right here.
Speaker 2: Is a scorpion? Okay?
Speaker 1: So just something to keep in mind. Sleep with a
Speaker 1: criminal and the cops might see your tattoos no matter
Speaker 1: where you hide them. And speaking of which, Max did
Speaker 1: have a criminal history. Just a little a few years
Speaker 1: are earlier, he was charged with disorderly conduct and criminal
Speaker 1: damage to property after smashing the windows of a car
Speaker 1: during a domestic dispute. Police had also been called the
Speaker 1: incidents involving arguments with family members at his home. All
Speaker 1: of this pointed to emotional or impulsive disorders, but not murder. Yet.
Speaker 1: Their conversation with Sherry continued, giving detectives even more reason
Speaker 1: to suspect him. Next, they pulled from Max's diary.
Speaker 28: Says, bondage equals rape comma roleplay and I'm not judging,
Speaker 28: not knocking it too bad.
Speaker 2: I'm cool, it's fun.
Speaker 28: I get it, I really get it, even if you
Speaker 28: are willing to accept that about yourself. You like to
Speaker 28: pretend you being raped because you otherwise can't feel anything.
Speaker 28: And he likes to pretend to be the rapist because
Speaker 28: that's how he'd imagine. I think he says, bed finally
Speaker 28: get late, or he'd finally get laid. Does that make
Speaker 28: any kind of sense.
Speaker 2: To you at all?
Speaker 1: Cherry said no, it didn't make sense to her, but
Speaker 1: it's also possible she was embarrassed.
Speaker 2: So one more time about the pretend rape comics.
Speaker 28: When was that kind of like were you guys in
Speaker 28: bed together, were you guys just like drinking or like
Speaker 28: how was he just brought it up and just said,
Speaker 28: I think that'd be hot.
Speaker 25: No, I think it like might have been like it
Speaker 25: might have come off in conversation like just like or
Speaker 25: like a movie or something.
Speaker 20: And he said, like rape can be hot.
Speaker 2: Okay. So but just just saw get everything straight. He
Speaker 2: didn't try to like set that up with you. He
Speaker 2: just said that rape could be hot, okay.
Speaker 1: Cherry denied participating in the rape fantasies Max mentioned, yet
Speaker 1: she did participate in another fairly common sex practice.
Speaker 28: I guess there were all adults. I believe I saw
Speaker 28: the video that you guys made. Do you recall the video?
Speaker 10: Yes?
Speaker 2: Okay, are you tied up in the video?
Speaker 13: I think so.
Speaker 2: From your recollection? What was going on?
Speaker 20: I think he was just fingering me?
Speaker 2: And then was that with the belt you described like
Speaker 2: you said, you're okay, yeah, okay. Do you know where
Speaker 2: you were at at that time?
Speaker 1: Say where's the female detective in this picture?
Speaker 2: Just asking Sometimes it was like a.
Speaker 25: Little more kinky.
Speaker 20: Wouldn't say anything.
Speaker 5: In the kinky times.
Speaker 6: What were they like?
Speaker 2: What was it like?
Speaker 5: He had the.
Speaker 25: Belt on his fat friend, so he used that time
Speaker 25: me up. And then there were points, God, this is embarrassing.
Speaker 5: No, it's totally trust me.
Speaker 18: We've talked to everybody and this is just it's just
Speaker 18: a dog's talk.
Speaker 23: And there were points where he would try and put
Speaker 23: his whole hand.
Speaker 25: In me okay, but that like usually ended up stopped
Speaker 25: because it was painful and I lead.
Speaker 2: So okay, did he ever are you guys? Did he
Speaker 2: ever choke you?
Speaker 20: Well?
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, and you were fine with that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he wasn't ever like like crazy, It was just
Speaker 5: like normal, Like I wasn't.
Speaker 20: I could not breathe or anything.
Speaker 2: But everything he was doing you were cool with as well. Yes, okay.
Speaker 1: Sherry was possibly so mortified at laying out all the
Speaker 1: details of her sex life with a potential killer that
Speaker 1: she almost forgot to mention something pivotal to the whole investigation.
Speaker 25: Anything that we did, like daywise involved drinks, so like
Speaker 25: going up to the bar concert.
Speaker 18: When you guys went on dates, what kind of days
Speaker 18: were they just mainly like going out getting food drinks?
Speaker 2: Was it yeah? Pretty casual like that. Did you ever
Speaker 2: fly anywhere with him? Yeah?
Speaker 6: Good?
Speaker 20: Oh he did take me to a park.
Speaker 25: He wouldn't tell what it was called because it was
Speaker 25: like his secret like private beach, so I would know
Speaker 25: if I.
Speaker 20: Like throve to it, because there's the next two restaurant
Speaker 20: on the.
Speaker 5: Way that we always stop at.
Speaker 1: But that secret beach had a name, Warnemont Park, the
Speaker 1: same shoreline where pieces of Shade Robinson had already turned up,
Speaker 1: a place where Sherry had visited with the very man
Speaker 1: detective now suspected was the killer. It was April of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. It started with a
Speaker 1: severed leg on the shoreline of Lake Michigan, then an
Speaker 1: arm all the way over in Illinois, and it didn't
Speaker 1: stop there. By then, investigators knew the victim was nineteen
Speaker 1: year old Shade Robinson, a college student working two jobs
Speaker 1: and building a future that ended in peace. Scattered across
Speaker 1: the city and state lines, detectives had already started reconstructing
Speaker 1: the final hours of her life, which wasn't difficult in
Speaker 1: some ways. Shade had left behind a digital trail, her
Speaker 1: burned car abandoned in an alley not far from where
Speaker 1: one of her severed feet would later be discovered, surveillance
Speaker 1: cameras capturing her and her date moving between bars and restaurants,
Speaker 1: and phone data tracing her movements across the city in
Speaker 1: the hours before she disappeared. By the time investigators finished
Speaker 1: mapping that trail, one name kept appearing at its center.
Speaker 1: The man shot A Robinson had gone out with that night,
Speaker 1: Max Anderson. He was also the last person known to
Speaker 1: have seen her alive. It didn't take long before the
Speaker 1: evidence started piling up. Detectives obtained search warrants and started
Speaker 1: looking at Max's place, and before they even stepped inside,
Speaker 1: the yard looked like something had been clawing its way
Speaker 1: in and out of the ground. Max's tenant spoke with
Speaker 1: detectives about it, and you.
Speaker 5: Know how long he's on in this place.
Speaker 12: I know there was one tenant before me who also
Speaker 12: moved out because she hated it here, and I've never
Speaker 12: talked to her, but that's just what Max was telling me.
Speaker 12: He was like, oh, she was always calling the city
Speaker 12: on me because of you know, the holes of ship
Speaker 12: that he's got out in the yard. Like he said
Speaker 12: that was going to be a shed, like the big
Speaker 12: old hole he says that was going to he was
Speaker 12: going to turn that into a shed with like a basement.
Speaker 12: And they said, like when it gets cold in the winter,
Speaker 12: that's where I was going to keep my dogs. And
Speaker 12: I'm like, this is the dumbest idea I've ever heard.
Speaker 2: Of my life.
Speaker 1: Dumbest or maybe sickest who adds a basement to the
Speaker 1: shed in their yard and for dogs that are indoor
Speaker 1: dogs anyway, Well the answer is nobody.
Speaker 12: And then at the top it was going to be
Speaker 12: storage for like long stuff or whatever. That was his idea.
Speaker 12: And then there's another hole going like back to the garage.
Speaker 12: He said he was going to do an outdoor bar there.
Speaker 12: Guy's just weird, man. He had all these weird ideas
Speaker 12: that you just as a normal person, you look at
Speaker 12: that and you're like, that's never gonna.
Speaker 13: Work, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: The inside of the house was even weirder, as Max's
Speaker 1: ex girlfriend remembered.
Speaker 2: Well, he had like the hidden closet okay behind the
Speaker 2: TV refer too.
Speaker 27: Yes, he had that like marble piece that you could
Speaker 27: remove from underneath his bathroom counter. And he told me
Speaker 27: that he would store all this money there because he
Speaker 27: was just paroid of somebody coming in it.
Speaker 25: Yeah, he was just very paranoid.
Speaker 20: He had his little mushroom mouth.
Speaker 2: Man too.
Speaker 21: Yeah.
Speaker 1: When she was questioned earlier about the so called mushroom room, lab,
Speaker 1: detectives assumed she meant psychedelic mushrooms. But actually Sherry didn't
Speaker 1: know what the hell they were. Max never specified, He
Speaker 1: only told her that they could eat them, which she declined.
Speaker 1: Once inside Max's house, detectives found cutting tools, including a hacksaw,
Speaker 1: consistent with the saw marks the medical examiner found on
Speaker 1: Shade's bones. But the most disturbing discovery came from Max's phone.
Speaker 1: Investigators found pictures taking the night shaw day disappeared. In one,
Speaker 1: Shade is lying face down on a couch, looking unresponsive,
Speaker 1: while Max is grabbing her breast. During the autopsy, the
Speaker 1: medical examiner determined the same breast had been cut off,
Speaker 1: it was never found. By that point, detectives had seen
Speaker 1: and heard enough. On April fourth, twenty twenty four, Milwaukee
Speaker 1: police arrested and charged Maxwell Anderson with first degree intentional homicide,
Speaker 1: mutilating a corpse, arson and hiding a corpse. Prosecutors told
Speaker 1: jurors he killed Shade Robinson after their first date, dismembering
Speaker 1: her body inside his home and scattering her remains across
Speaker 1: Milwaukee and along the Lake Michigan shoreline. They pointed to
Speaker 1: surveillance footage of the pair together, the digital trail left
Speaker 1: on Shade's phone. The pictures from Max's phone and the
Speaker 1: cutting tools investigators found inside his house. Max's trial started
Speaker 1: on May twenty eighth, twenty twenty five, and after roughly
Speaker 1: two weeks of testimony, the jury returned verdicts of guilty
Speaker 1: on all counts. Both Max and his father made statements
Speaker 1: at his sentencing. Until this point, Max had said nothing,
Speaker 1: but now he was claiming innocence.
Speaker 21: I would like to start by saying that, from the
Speaker 21: bottom of my heart, my deepest and most sincere condolences
Speaker 21: go out to Shade's family, as well as everyone else
Speaker 21: affected by this tragedy. That being said, your honor, I
Speaker 21: took this to trial without everyone trying to make a
Speaker 21: plea deal of any kind, because I did not commit
Speaker 21: these crimes, and so I planned to appeal my convictions
Speaker 21: while I hope and pray that further investigations not only
Speaker 21: prove my innocence, but find and deliver true justice.
Speaker 1: Max's defense team made a similar argument throughout the trial.
Speaker 1: They told jurors the case against Max was built entirely
Speaker 1: on circumstantial evidence that no one had witnessed a killing,
Speaker 1: no clear crime scene had been established inside Max's home,
Speaker 1: and no single piece of physical evidence directly proved he
Speaker 1: had murdered Shade Robinson. They urged the jury not to
Speaker 1: mistake suspicion for proof. When Max's father addressed the court,
Speaker 1: he spoke about loss in an ironic twist. He referenced
Speaker 1: another young man he had once cared for deeply. It
Speaker 1: seemed like a tragedy had happened in that family, long
Speaker 1: before his son was ever convicted of murder.
Speaker 4: On behalf of myself and my family, I'd like to
Speaker 4: say a few things first to Shaya's family. There are
Speaker 4: no words.
Speaker 2: That I can share that will reduce your pain.
Speaker 4: You are all in my thoughts every single day, although
Speaker 4: it is not the same. Having lost a boy that
Speaker 4: was like a son to me ten years ago, I
Speaker 4: have some sense of what you are feeling. It took
Speaker 4: me a very long time to get the past past
Speaker 4: the pain that I felt for the person that contributed
Speaker 4: to his passing. I'm not asking you to forgive anybody
Speaker 4: or anything that is between you and your God.
Speaker 1: After making this mysterious comment, he turned his attention to
Speaker 1: his murderous son.
Speaker 5: We want you to know that we love you and
Speaker 5: support your plan for self improvement.
Speaker 6: In this we hope for a path for you to
Speaker 6: become a positive influence for society, both while you are
Speaker 6: incarcerated and hopefully after.
Speaker 1: But there was no path forward for a cold blooded
Speaker 1: killer like Max. We don't know much much about him,
Speaker 1: even from his own father's words, but we know the facts,
Speaker 1: and we know that the jury voted quickly and unanimously.
Speaker 1: His father talked about hope, self improvement and the possibility
Speaker 1: that someday Max could contribute something positive to society. The
Speaker 1: judge and the jury didn't see it that way.
Speaker 29: I've weighed your character, and as I've indicated, I find
Speaker 29: it wanting. I've also reflected on the needs of society
Speaker 29: and are you a good risk?
Speaker 2: And sadly you're not.
Speaker 29: So how do we protect society from a man who
Speaker 29: clearly has had darkness in his past, who engaged in
Speaker 29: behavior that is it's the facts that you see written
Speaker 29: in horror novels. That's what we have to determine, and
Speaker 29: you know it isn't easy. I can tell you that
Speaker 29: when you think about is there ever something redeemable, I'm
Speaker 29: in a person you'd like to say at some point
Speaker 29: there is, And I can tell you that at the
Speaker 29: points in life where I've come to the conclusion that
Speaker 29: there isn't anything redeemable. You know, you do think about
Speaker 29: I think it takes away a little piece of my soul.
Speaker 29: How come I couldn't find anything good? How come I
Speaker 29: can't find anything that I can say at some point
Speaker 29: you'll be a better person.
Speaker 1: Sometimes people are just not redeemable, no matter how hard
Speaker 1: to try to see the good in them. They're just
Speaker 1: isn't any Maybe they started as a good person and
Speaker 1: life's events just eroded the goodness away until there was
Speaker 1: nothing left but darkness. Or maybe they were just born
Speaker 1: with a heart of darkness. If that's even possible. Who knows.
Speaker 1: I'm no philosopher, I'm no theologian. That's what makes this
Speaker 1: case so unsettling. Maxwell Anderson looked like every other guy.
Speaker 1: He wore that mask perfectly. As for shot A, she
Speaker 1: was trying to do everything right. She did everything everyone
Speaker 1: expected her to do. She did the things people are
Speaker 1: told to do to stay safe. She told friends where
Speaker 1: she was going, she shared her location. Her movements at
Speaker 1: night were captured again and again on security cameras across
Speaker 1: Milwaukee restaurants, streets, parking lots. Almost every step of that
Speaker 1: evening exists on video all except one. The minute she
Speaker 1: walked into the House of Secret Compartments. There, Rumors have
Speaker 1: it they watched a movie about a serial killer who
Speaker 1: dismembers his victims. If true, was this a trigger or
Speaker 1: was this just for play for Max, because after the
Speaker 1: movie ended he killed her. Then he dismembered her body,
Speaker 1: burned her car, and took her to his secluded beach
Speaker 1: to leave parts of her body there.
Speaker 3: All right, well, I'm gonna send them a deputy downer
Speaker 3: to Saint Kite. It should be that too long.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, all right? And what then?
Speaker 3: What did you actually find?
Speaker 4: It looks like the.
Speaker 2: It looks like the back and the butt.
Speaker 3: In the irons, back arm and okay, okay, all right,
Speaker 3: expect to call from one of the deputies. I'm I'm
Speaker 3: assuming you're probably going to give you a call so
Speaker 3: they can uh exactly where you are. But we'll be
Speaker 3: there soon.
Speaker 2: As we can. Okay.
Speaker 1: He then scattered the rest of her remains across the city.
Speaker 1: To this day, she has not fully been recovered. No
Speaker 1: one knows where shot A put her head to rest.
Speaker 1: After the trial, allegations surface that Max told someone weeks
Speaker 1: earlier he was going to kill and dismember a woman
Speaker 1: he had recently met. That claim came from an informant
Speaker 1: tied to search warrants in the case. It was never
Speaker 1: fully tested a trial, but it raises the disturbing possibility
Speaker 1: that shah Day may have been targeted from the very beginning.
Speaker 1: Some people close to Shade also believe she initially rejected
Speaker 1: Max at some point he seemed jealous of her friend Josh.
Speaker 1: It's possible the date happened only after she tried to
Speaker 1: smooth things over, something many women do when they feel
Speaker 1: pressured or uncomfortable. If that's true, it adds another tragic
Speaker 1: layer to the story, because what may have looked like
Speaker 1: an ordinary first date may actually have been the final
Speaker 1: step in a situation that had already turned extremely dangerous
Speaker 1: or worse. If it can get any worse, Maybe, just maybe,
Speaker 1: Shade would have been the first of many unbeknowing women
Speaker 1: to follow in her path, all the way to Warnemont
Speaker 1: Park and all the way to Max's private beach. Well,
Speaker 1: we hope that'll keep you satisfied until next week. We
Speaker 1: know it won't, but you know, boy can dream check
Speaker 1: out tails and leave us some feedback we'll see you
Speaker 1: next week. Stay safe,