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Speaker 1: Eleven o two. This is our number two, the mat

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you with us until two o'clock this afternoon. Ross is

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going to carry the show, as many of you believe

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he already does, from noon until two, as I will

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head off to San Francisco. A man going the other

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direction to Chicago to see the return of Lance mccullors

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Juniors joining us right now as he does every Thursday.

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It's our friend Brian mctagger tags. How are things I'm good?

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Speaker 2: How are things going there? Ready to go back to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a quick fly. It's only like three hours

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and forty five minutes. You know what that's all about.

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Speaker 2: That's it. I'm sure you'll be in complete luxury though,

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so you'll make that is fair?

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Speaker 1: Are you an economy plus or we get the upgrade

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to Chicago today?

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Speaker 2: No, I was sixtieth on the upgrade list. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't realize who you are.

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Speaker 2: Then, apparently all right to talk to people.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to blue Balls performance. Obviously, the salami giving

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up was not great. The fence behind him hurt him, obviously,

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Just some general impressions of what you thought of aj

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he was kind of what what we'd

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heard or seen in spring training. I mean, a guy

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that throws hard, you know, hitting ninety eight competes or strikes.

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I mean, I was impressed the way he came out

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the first inning and you know, got a couple of

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strikeouts and looked like he he belonged. And yeah, things

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got a little messy there. The air didn't help. But

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I think the most impressive thing probably is that he

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came back out in that fourth inning after giving up

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the slam and posted a one two three inning and

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he you know, he he brushed it off and just

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went back out there and you know, did did what

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they asked him to do. So all things considered, I

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mean there's a reason why he's one of their top

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prospects and a guy that think is going to be

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in this rotation next year, probably maybe even later this year.

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a great makeup, like you know a lot of these

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guys they have. Now you know, Eric Getty's probably cut

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from the same cloth as well. So you know, he

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was a guy drafted out of University of Wisconsin at Milwaukee,

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not exactly a baseball powerhouse.

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Speaker 2: He was a reliever.

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Speaker 3: So you know, credit to the Astro Scouts for really

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seeing something in him and turning him into a starter.

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And you know that they might have uncovered a guy

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rotation starter for them down the road.

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Speaker 1: You know, Ross and I were kind of teasing each

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other during the course of spring, turning about would there

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be enough enough starting pitching depth. You know, you're gonna

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get blue Ball back at some point, as he got

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sent down, You're gonna get Arrogetti back, you got mccollors returning.

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Give me the stata in your mind of where this

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rotation is and is there enough to obviously put together

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a six man rotation? And do you feel like that

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there's gonna be enough to withstand any sort of Pennant

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race in summer with these guys right now on the mound.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think there's probably more depth than I expected.

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I mean, they're you know, they're pitching really well, but

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you're right, you know, blue Balls an option. You know

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one guy that I thought would be you know, an

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option coming in, and I think we'll still see him

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at some point. It is Colton Gordon, a left hander,

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and they're one of their top prospects. So they have

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enough starting pitching depth if they don't have any more injuries,

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if mccullor's comes in and is effective. H. You know,

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not sure Howvier is coming back this year. So I'm

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really not you know, counting on them at this point.

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if you were the Astros was, you know, starting pitching depth,

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which you know they've answered that bell and and and

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the bullpen and if you know, they they've had some

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guys step up in the bullpen and pitch really well.

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the Astros are fifth in the league or in major

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leagues and e RA and third and bullpen ERA.

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Speaker 2: So uh, the pitching staff has been one of their strengths.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and mccullor is being part of that starting on Sunday.

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of seeing things and talking about them and then watching

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them play out. I'm so fascinating to see how this

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Lance mccolors junior thing plays out. I mean, I could

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again ask you a guess. I I guess your guess

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as good as anybody's. I mean, the setback word is

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always going to be hanging over his head. And then

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the real question is is he going to be able

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to still get out at the major league level.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a fair analysis. Ross.

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training results. I have no idea. I think we're gonna

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see a little bit of a different picture than he

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was last time we saw him on the mound. He's

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not gonna be ninety seven ninety eight anymore. His mechanics

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has probably changed a little bit. So I think we're gonna,

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you know, see a guy who still competes like he

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but it's just gonna be a little bit different look

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Speaker 2: And uh uh yeah. I mean, you know, he's put

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Speaker 3: I know he's frustrated a lot of people by constantly

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getting injured and all the surgeries that he's had, But

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you know, talking to him and talking to people on

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the team, I mean, this is a guy who has

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thought a couple of times that you know, it might

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not happen, I might be done, and you know, credit

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Speaker 2: And now he's here.

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Speaker 3: There's a light at the end of the tunnel, and

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that's gonna come out on Sunday afternoon, and you.

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Speaker 2: Know, hope he does well.

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but just seeing the work that he's put in, you know,

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facing the White Sox is a good soft landing spot

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for him, So I think he's set up to succeed

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Speaker 4: Brian McTaggart with us here on a Sports Talk seven

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to ninety. Let's flip to the lineup side. Jeremy Pania

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been in the leadoff spot the last few games, paying

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big dividends. We've kind of been talking ever really since

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about a breakout coming, and I guess we have to

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wonder if if it's finally here.

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Speaker 1: He's got eight hits his last four games.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, he had a really really good spring,

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lot of stock in the spring, but he looked like

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a guy who had made some adjustments and was poised

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for a big season. Came out of the gate. Didn't

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happen right away, but slowly, but surely he's coming around.

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different confidence about Jeremy that we haven't seen.

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Speaker 2: He looks like he belongs more.

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Speaker 3: The word leadership is getting thrown around a little bit

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more about him, and uh, I mean that's a great

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thing for the Astros, because you know, he's a guy

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walking a little bit more they need him maybe, you know,

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not to strike out as much. I think he's trying

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the whole thing without two ve going to the number

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two spot in the order and pretty much asking him

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as well. And just from the fact that he did

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more time to come in from from the outfield to

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get ready for his bat to begin the game, and

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talking without two Vay later, just you know, after the

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interview was over, he said that, Hey, they asked me

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to go to the outfield and I did it. And

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that's fair. And Jeremy's been the guy who stepped into

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that number one spot and so far, so good. We'll see,

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there's a long way to go, but it looks like, yeah,

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this could be the best season yet of Jeremy Panya.

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Speaker 1: You may not have the metrics on this. Is he

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hitting sliders better this year than in previous years, I

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don't get some sample size is really small, but there's

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been anything that has been his achilles heel that has

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MVP of the ALCS. You know, he had a couple

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and then it still ended up being a pitch that's

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Speaker 2: But yeah, that'd be an interesting thing to look at.

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Speaker 3: But he just seems overall that, uh, he just become

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Speaker 3: He came trying to hit the ball in the air

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a little bit more after you know, he went the

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second half of the twenty three season without a homer and.

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Speaker 2: And that worked out pretty well.

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Speaker 3: So he's constantly adjusting and trying to get to where

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Speaker 2: But you know, he's growing, he's maturity.

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Speaker 1: How many more left fielders we're going to see this year?

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more playing time. He can play left and right at

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first and third. I mean it's hard to get opportunities

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at first and third just with the guys you have there. So,

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here and there, it'll be interesting to see on the road,

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a six game road trip here in a couple of parks,

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how much they play out too, VA and left and

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in second and d H. You know, so I think

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there'll be a couple more opportunities for de Senzo to

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play some left field. But you know, he's starting to

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creep into simid bats too in right field, taking those

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away from Cam Smith a little bit as well.

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Speaker 1: And how do you size up the battle at second

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it is what it is.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you're gonna have al two bay start occasionally.

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I mean, yeah, I wouldn't say it's a battle. I

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just think it's a rotation. At this point, they just

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who's the starting second basement. I guess it's Brendan Rodgers.

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the way it is. I mean, we're so used to

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Speaker 1: Uh, is the game slowing down for cam Smith at all?

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In your mind? Is it still moving at a pretty

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fast pace? I mean, the batting average isn't great. This

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ops is getting a little bit better. Did have a

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hit for the squad yesterday, but just in general, you

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know it with so much publicity going into the season

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for the regression, which was natural to try to settle in.

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How is his demeanor because you know, obviously he wakes

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up with a smile of the morning and happy with

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the big leagues was a little experience he had in

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the minor league level. What are you noticing from him

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into the last of two weeks or so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's settling in a little bit. You're right.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there was so much hype about him in

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spring training, and he embraced it, and he was a

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fun personality, a guy with a lot of energy. And

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then when he made the team, it was such a

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great story with it. You know, his mother coming in

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the clubhouse and he you know, he's had some moments

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early in the season. The Sunday night game, he came

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up with a big hit. So I think now we're

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sort of getting to the dog days where the attention

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is off him.

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Speaker 2: A little bit.

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Speaker 3: Some other guys are playing a little bit better, like

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you know, Descenzo, who's also still a rookie, I believe,

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and so it's just time for him to settle in

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and put in the work and see what he can do.

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I don't think his demeanor's changed at all. I mean,

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I don't think he feels over matched or too big

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for the moment, but I think he knows that, hey,

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this is this is the big leagues, and you know,

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I need to make adjustments on a daily basis. He's

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he's going around the league and seeing pictures at the

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caliber he's never seen before, playing in parks he's never

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played in before. So there's a lot going on for

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him right now. And I can imagine if he's overwhelmed

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at times, he's probably could be warranted. But yeah, I mean,

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I still think there's a lot of room for growth, obviously,

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but I'll keep running him out there because he does

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look a little bit more comfortable than he did. But

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obviously the results of the plate aren't there yet, but

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he will get better.

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Speaker 2: Tag.

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Speaker 1: Save travels to the Wendy City and we'll talk again

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next week. We appreciate the visitors.

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Speaker 2: Always, all right, save travels to you too, Thank you. Friend.

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Speaker 1: That's Brian McTaggart, who will be on the Astros on

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Deck show. Friddy from Chicago And what do they call it?

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I always get the ballpark mixed up. He used to

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be called Newcomiski and then they made it like, is

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it's still us cellular?

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Speaker 2: Is it? No?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: No? A guaranteed rate