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<v Speaker 1>Something's going to happen?

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<v Speaker 2>What? What's going to happen? What I how I have

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<v Speaker 2>to help?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, we are alive. How this is William Ramsey. Welcome

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<v Speaker 3>to William Ramsey Investigets on today's show. I have two

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<v Speaker 3>very special guests, Nick for me to call up rejects.

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<v Speaker 3>If you watch my show and listening to my show,

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<v Speaker 3>you've heard him from me as a guest on his show,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's talked to me THET shows recently about crossing

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<v Speaker 3>me of this and uh, the Pilgrim Society which is

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<v Speaker 3>getting a little bit of mention that he's mentioned in

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<v Speaker 3>some You know a guy who I listened to, Afprener,

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<v Speaker 3>I mentioned the Pilgrim Society too, who's kind of a

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<v Speaker 3>main line online kind of commentary academic. But it was

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<v Speaker 3>interesting to hear him talk about it after kind of

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<v Speaker 3>we did and shows like Charlie Robinson, but it was

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<v Speaker 3>interesting to kind of make it into mainline discourse. And

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<v Speaker 3>his kind of views are that the English ex English

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<v Speaker 3>empires punching over its weight, which I can be agreeing

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<v Speaker 3>with and through things like the Pilgrim Society. But also

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<v Speaker 3>another co guest is Teresa who's done shows with Nick.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is the first time I think I've had

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<v Speaker 3>her on my show. We're going to talk to something

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<v Speaker 3>I don't really know much about. And Nick reached out

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<v Speaker 3>to me and said, Hey, I've been doing this research

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<v Speaker 3>on this subject, and so I'm kind of flying blind,

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<v Speaker 3>like I don't really know that much. I know a

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<v Speaker 3>lot with the Catholic Church. I grew up Catholic. I

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<v Speaker 3>grew up Roman Catholic. But this is called the Saint

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<v Speaker 3>Gallen Mafia, so it's St. And Gallan ga ll E.

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<v Speaker 3>And I did a little bit of stuff about it,

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<v Speaker 3>kind of ties in it kind of overlaps with some

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<v Speaker 3>of these old orders that I've been studying. I did

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<v Speaker 3>a show on the Knights of Malta with Coordinate Turner,

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<v Speaker 3>just like the Pilgrim Society, all these old kind of

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<v Speaker 3>Heraldrick orders and things like that. But these guys can talk.

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<v Speaker 4>I us actually even wondered if they tie into the

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<v Speaker 4>P two lodges somehow.

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't be surprised a lot of them do. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean P two is a Masonic lodge, but all those

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<v Speaker 3>guys like Berlasconi was a member of P two. Who's

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<v Speaker 3>the head of the talent, Really Yeah, that's actually how.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a really good book called thing. It's called The

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<v Speaker 3>Sack of Rome and it's about him and how he

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<v Speaker 3>was able to take over the kind of corporate media

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<v Speaker 3>in Italy was through non commercial wholesale loans through his

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<v Speaker 3>friends in P two. So any negotiation that he could

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<v Speaker 3>he had with, you know, somebody, he could undercut and

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<v Speaker 3>offer a better price because he's getting money from from

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<v Speaker 3>his buddies through P too much cheaper.

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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting. Yeah, he's a fascinating character. We'll have to

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<v Speaker 1>do a show on him sometime.

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<v Speaker 3>So for people, maybe you guys can talk about what

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<v Speaker 3>you've been up to and what led you to the

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<v Speaker 3>subject Saint Ala Mafia.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, real quick, I'll just believe it or not. This

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<v Speaker 4>is actually Teresa's topic, but into the Occult Rejects. And

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<v Speaker 4>Teresa's one of the people on one of the many

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<v Speaker 4>people that is part of the ocult rejects, and she

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<v Speaker 4>had approached me with this topic and I actually thought

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<v Speaker 4>it was like really interesting. She had she was looking

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<v Speaker 4>to do it for another show and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>this is really good. I was like, we should really

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<v Speaker 4>use this on the Occult Rejects.

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<v Speaker 2>And she was like yeah for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>And after we got done doing it kind of like

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<v Speaker 4>covering it and stuff, I reached out to you and

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, why not do it on his show

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<v Speaker 4>and then we'll just share this for the occult rejects.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's kind of actually, like I was telling you before,

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<v Speaker 4>it's a I guess, a sneak peek. You know, we

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<v Speaker 4>haven't even released this ourselves, so this is an exclusive

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<v Speaker 4>on Williams William Ramsey show, So this isn't even out

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<v Speaker 4>on our end.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm going to turn it over.

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<v Speaker 4>And let let Teresa actually you know, get into it

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<v Speaker 4>because this is her topic.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's sure. Well it definitely helped a lot. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So the sank Gown Mafia is essentially not an actual mafia,

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<v Speaker 1>though the title does sound really cool. When I first

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<v Speaker 1>heard the term, I was like, what is that so gangster? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the name of the Saint Allen Group, which is not

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<v Speaker 1>as fun, so they went to Saint Ala Mafia. But

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<v Speaker 1>essentially it's a group of high level cardinals and bishops

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<v Speaker 1>who coordinated to push through globalist agendas through the papacy

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<v Speaker 1>of Pope Francis and they've sort of been literally conspiring

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<v Speaker 1>to do this since the early nine days, which is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty interesting. I first heard the term when I was

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<v Speaker 1>listening to another podcast. Actually, Father Charles Murr. He wrote

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<v Speaker 1>a book called Murder in the thirty third Degree. I

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<v Speaker 1>think we're going to refer to the book later, but

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<v Speaker 1>that book is essentially about the murder of Pope John

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<v Speaker 1>Paul the First and the Free Masonic involvement in that case. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And he brought up the term Saint Alan Mafia and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, what is that? And then basically I

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<v Speaker 1>I started researching it and it led me down a

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<v Speaker 1>rabbit hole of Catholicism and conspiracy. So it was really

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<v Speaker 1>interesting and I just kind of rolled with it, and

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<v Speaker 1>here we are today. So yeah, yeah, like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a group of high level cardinals. Sorry, go ahead, William.

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<v Speaker 3>I was just gonna say that death was kind of

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<v Speaker 3>featured in a fictional way and Godfather three, so the.

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<v Speaker 1>Po that's right, Yes, that's right.

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<v Speaker 3>Very long. He last on like seventeen days or something like.

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<v Speaker 1>That, thirty three days, precise seventeen. You know, show showed seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>When we get thirty three though, to show, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe who's behind the murder. So let's see. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So basically the group, the Saint Gallon Group, is named

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<v Speaker 1>after a town in Switzerland which is called Sankt Gullen.

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<v Speaker 1>It started around ninety five ninety six during the decline

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<v Speaker 1>of Pope John Paul the Second in his papacy, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was this group discussing what they believe would be

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<v Speaker 1>the best way forward for the Catholic Church and how

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<v Speaker 1>to push these globalist agendas through the church. They did

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<v Speaker 1>think that Cardinal Ratzinger, who became Pope Benedict the sixteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>they believe that he was like the absolute wrong choice

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<v Speaker 1>for their agenda. So I know, a lot of conspiracy

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<v Speaker 1>around Pope Benedict, people like he's so evil. He he

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<v Speaker 1>could he could have been, but you know, so were

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<v Speaker 1>some of these guys apparently. But I think Benedict was

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<v Speaker 1>more of a traditionalist by comparison to this group, which

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<v Speaker 1>is extremely liberal in terms of like Catholicism at least,

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<v Speaker 1>so they definitely did not want him in, although of

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<v Speaker 1>course he did was Pope for a time, but they

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<v Speaker 1>did push for the election of Jorge Bergolio from Argentina,

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<v Speaker 1>who ended up becoming Pope Francis. And there are a

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<v Speaker 1>couple authors who are really expert on this topic, if

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<v Speaker 1>anyone wants to die further. One's name is Julia Maloney.

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<v Speaker 1>The other one is Taylor Marshall, who a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people may be more familiar with. He's quite popular on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is just a quick quote from Taylor Marshall's

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<v Speaker 1>book Infiltration or Sorry. It's from an article that he

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<v Speaker 1>he was featured in. So it says the Catholic Church

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<v Speaker 1>is in crisis because the enemies of Christ plotted against

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<v Speaker 1>organized efforts to place a Pope for Satan on the

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<v Speaker 1>Roman chair of Saint Peter. It has been a slow,

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<v Speaker 1>patient plan to establish a Satanic revolution with the Pope

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<v Speaker 1>as puppet. And Marshall himself basically believes without a doubt

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<v Speaker 1>that this Pope for Satan is Pope Francis very strong statement.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, yeah, that's the most important person in Catholicism, So

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<v Speaker 3>saying he's he's made some interesting decisions, he's pro and

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<v Speaker 3>and things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>So certainly, well, the the thing learning about the origins

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<v Speaker 1>of this group may help us understand his papacy a

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<v Speaker 1>lot better. And I am Catholic still and it helped

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<v Speaker 1>me to understand a lot of like what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>in the church. I'm like, oh, that that makes sense now,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as opposed to being super confused about it. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>the process of infiltration has been by Freemasons and other

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<v Speaker 1>secret societies. Their allies were recognized by Pope Gregory the sixteenth.

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<v Speaker 1>This he was a long time ago, and many later popes. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>in eighteen forty six there wasn't Mary an apparition. So

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<v Speaker 1>if people don't know what that is, that's just when

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<v Speaker 1>like somebody claims to see the Virgin Mary, either like

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<v Speaker 1>in person or like a locution, which is like a

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<v Speaker 1>message in their ear, as if like someone was speaking

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<v Speaker 1>to them. So this apparition of Mary is called Our

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<v Speaker 1>Lady of Las Silette. That was in eighteen forty six,

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<v Speaker 1>and Mary herself spoke of a future time when Rome

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<v Speaker 1>will lose faith and become the seat of the Antichrist.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is what she was maybe talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying Pop Francis is an Antichrist, but just

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<v Speaker 1>paring the way perhaps. And also around the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>in eighteen eighty four, Pope Leo the thirteenth had this

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<v Speaker 1>vision of Satan approaching the throne of God. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was like in the middle of a mass or something,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's just like had this sudden vision where he

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<v Speaker 1>stopped and he was like so disturbed by the whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing that he saw. I basically saw Satan approach God

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<v Speaker 1>and say I want to tempt humanity and lead them astray.

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<v Speaker 1>And God was like, cool, how much time do you need?

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<v Speaker 1>Like go for it? Yeah, it was a little like

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<v Speaker 1>playing like Job, you know, like if you're familiar with

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<v Speaker 1>that story in the whole Testament, very much like Job.

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<v Speaker 1>And God was like, how much time do you need?

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<v Speaker 1>And He's like, Satan's like probably one hundred years or so,

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<v Speaker 1>So if that was eighteen eighty four, that would bring

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<v Speaker 1>us to nineteen eighty four, so we're like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not too far off. The mark from that is

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<v Speaker 1>forty years forty one years ago, so we're pretty close.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, that was his vision and actually so disturbed

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<v Speaker 1>by it that that's where the Saint Michael prayer comes from.

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<v Speaker 1>Saint Michael the Eric Angel. Pope Leo wrote that prayer

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<v Speaker 1>after that vision.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting, m.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, so with this same Gallon group that is a

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<v Speaker 1>more modern kind of infiltration of this whole like modernism

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<v Speaker 1>versus traditionalism thing in the Catholic Church.

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<v Speaker 3>Always fighting right, they've never really always.

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<v Speaker 1>Worrying, And it's just basically that story. So like it's

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<v Speaker 1>a watering down of the heavy tradition over time, which

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<v Speaker 1>we can even go back to like eighteen fifty nine again,

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<v Speaker 1>this like mid eighteen hundreds, right, eighteen fifty nine, there

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<v Speaker 1>was a guy named Jacques Creato Julie. He's a French philosopher.

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<v Speaker 1>He published a very important work called the Roman Church

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<v Speaker 1>in the Face of Revolution, and it was notable because

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<v Speaker 1>he claimed that anti Catholic secret societies would no longer

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<v Speaker 1>attack the Church from the outside, but rather infiltrate it

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<v Speaker 1>from the inside within. And this plot is actually detailed

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<v Speaker 1>in a written document which is called the Alta Vendida,

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<v Speaker 1>written by an Italian free Masonic group that's referred to

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<v Speaker 1>as Carbonari, which means I think like charcoal or something. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what it means, I think, yeah, And the Carbonari

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<v Speaker 1>had a growing influence in Italy at the time. This

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<v Speaker 1>was during the like Resorgimento period of history in Italy

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<v Speaker 1>where they were forming into like a nation. Prior to that,

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<v Speaker 1>Italy was not like a formalized country. Essentially like as

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<v Speaker 1>we know it today. The document the Alta Vendida. The

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<v Speaker 1>document's author or authors used the pseudonym Piccolo tigre, which

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<v Speaker 1>to infiltrate the clergy and the papacy to propagate free

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<v Speaker 1>Masonic ideals and beliefs. The Carbonari was also aligned with

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<v Speaker 1>other secret societies across your such as Freemasons in France, Spain,

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<v Speaker 2>Very nice, and then I'll soot to take over a

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<v Speaker 4>Here's an excerpt from the document, whose official title is

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<v Speaker 4>The Permanent Instruction of the Alta Vendita, and it stated

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<v Speaker 4>the Pope, whoever he may be, will never come to

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<v Speaker 4>the secret societies. It is for the secret societies to

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<v Speaker 4>come first to the Church, with the aim of winning

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<v Speaker 4>them both. The work which we have undertaken is not

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<v Speaker 4>the work of a day, nor a month, nor a year.

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<v Speaker 4>It may last many years, a century, perhaps, but in

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<v Speaker 4>our ranks the soldier dies and the fight continues. Now then,

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<v Speaker 4>in order to secure us a pope according to our

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<v Speaker 4>a generation worthy of the kingdom of which we dream.

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<v Speaker 4>Leave on one side old age and middle life, go

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<v Speaker 4>to the youth, and if possible, even to children. The

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<v Speaker 4>reputation of a good Catholic and a good patriot will

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<v Speaker 4>hearts of the young clergy and go even to the

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<v Speaker 4>depths of covenants. Of covenants. In a few years, the

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<v Speaker 4>young clergy will have, by force of events, invaded all offices.

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<v Speaker 4>They will govern, administer, and judge. They will form the

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<v Speaker 4>Council of the Sovereign. They will be called upon to

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<v Speaker 4>choose the pontiff who will reign, and that Pontiff, like

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<v Speaker 4>the greater part of his contemporaries, will be the necessary

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<v Speaker 4>will be necessarily imbued with the Italian and humanitarian principles

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<v Speaker 4>which are about to put into circulation. Do you want

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<v Speaker 4>to wipe out the last vestige of the tyrants and oppressors?

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<v Speaker 4>Cast out your nets deep into the sir Christy don't

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<v Speaker 4>know what that means?

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<v Speaker 2>Sacristy?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, binaries in the monasteries rather than at the

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<v Speaker 4>bottom of the sea. And if you do not rush things,

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<v Speaker 4>we promise you we promise you at catch more miraculous

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<v Speaker 4>than this, the fishermen of fish become a fisherman of men.

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<v Speaker 4>You too, will fish some friends and lead them to

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<v Speaker 4>the feet of the Apostolic Sea. Essentially, the document explains

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<v Speaker 4>how the youth will be corrupted or their ideas changed,

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<v Speaker 4>to the corruption of families, books, poems, colleges, universities, and

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<v Speaker 4>even a pope that embodies free Masonic values.

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<v Speaker 1>Long story shooting, Yeah, that's just an excerpt from the document.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the whole thing. And I think, like it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a coincidence that the Alt of Indida was written

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<v Speaker 1>around the same time as that infamous letter from Albert

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<v Speaker 1>Pike to Giuseppe Mazzini, Right, Yeah, I think that's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>timing that this is all seemed to be happening around

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<v Speaker 1>the mid eighteen hundreds, Like, it's pretty wild if people

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<v Speaker 1>aren't familiar with that document. Basically, Albert Pike, who's famous,

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<v Speaker 1>well known thirty third degree Freemason, he was an ocultist,

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<v Speaker 1>a Freemason grand master, and also creator of the Southern

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<v Speaker 1>jurisdiction of the Masonic Scottish rite order and Giuseppe Mazzini

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<v Speaker 1>was the head of the Action Party in Italy. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a far left politician at the time, and he was

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<v Speaker 1>very active during the Resorgimento period calling for the Italian

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<v Speaker 1>unification of the mid eighteen hundreds, also rumored to be

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<v Speaker 1>the director of the Illuminati at one point. Yeah. So,

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<v Speaker 1>basically in that document, Albert Pike wrote and outlined the

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<v Speaker 1>three world wars and how they would, why they would

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<v Speaker 1>come to fruition, how it would happen. And I think

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<v Speaker 4>The Third World War must be fomented by taking advantage

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<v Speaker 4>of the differences caused by the agenteur of the Illuminati

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<v Speaker 4>between the political Zionists and the leaders of the Islamic world.

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<v Speaker 4>The war must be conducted in such a way that

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<v Speaker 4>Islam and political Zionism mutually destroy each other. Meanwhile, the

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<v Speaker 4>other nations, once more divided on this issue, will be

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<v Speaker 4>constrained to fight to the point of complete physical, moral, spiritual,

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<v Speaker 4>and economical exhaustion. We shall unleash the nihilists and the atheists.

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<v Speaker 4>We shall provoke a formidable social cataclysm which in all

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<v Speaker 4>in its horror will show clearly to the nations the

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<v Speaker 4>effect of absolute atheism, origin of savagery and the most

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<v Speaker 4>bloody turmoil. Then everywhere the citizens obliged to defend themselves

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<v Speaker 4>against the world minority of revolutionaries will will exterminate those

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<v Speaker 4>destroyers of civilization and the multitude disillusion with Christianity whose

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<v Speaker 4>deistic spirits will form that moment, be without compasser direction

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<v Speaker 4>and anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to

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<v Speaker 4>render its adoration, will receive the true light through the

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<v Speaker 4>universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally

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<v Speaker 4>out in the public view. This manifestation will result from

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<v Speaker 4>the general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of

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<v Speaker 4>Christianity and atheism, both conquered and exterminated at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty interesting, especially like with what's going on right

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<v Speaker 1>now in the Middle East too, Like we're literally seeing

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<v Speaker 1>that conflict of Islamic world versus Zionist world.

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<v Speaker 3>Right right, no question about it.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's been going on for quite some time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's nothing new. Yeah, it seems to be peaking. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, of course, rumors of World War three are

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<v Speaker 1>circulating all the time in the last you know, year

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<v Speaker 1>or two, right, So sure, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean it feels like the world's on fire if you

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<v Speaker 3>add up Gaza, Ukraine. Yeah, you're all these movements migration

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<v Speaker 3>and things like that, orders and.

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff exactly, Yeah, totally. So I just wanted to get

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<v Speaker 1>into a little bit of like, what are these free

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<v Speaker 1>Masonic values that the Saint Gallan mafia and its precursors

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to propagate throughout the Catholic Church and throughout the

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<v Speaker 1>world essentially. So to answer this question, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>go back to the Protestant Reformation of fifteen seventeen. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is not to like insult anybody's belief or your

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<v Speaker 1>denomination of Christianity if you are a Christian. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>like a historical record and tracing these events. Okay, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not like here to insult your beliefs, right, But basically,

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<v Speaker 1>Martin Luther's Reformation movement did call for a new way

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<v Speaker 1>for man to see the world. And this is by

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<v Speaker 1>use of more individual reasons and desire for a new

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<v Speaker 1>world order which would be propelled by naturalism, rationalism, and

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<v Speaker 1>universal brotherhood. And this was in direct protest to the

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<v Speaker 1>old world order, which is basically Catholic monarchies, essentially all

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<v Speaker 1>monarchies in general, right, was Kingdom's tyrants, well, in some

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<v Speaker 1>people's view, tyrants, right. So that's where we get the

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<v Speaker 1>term Protestant from. It's because it was in protests of

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<v Speaker 1>the Catholic Church. After the Protestant Reformation, there was a

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<v Speaker 1>spiritual vacuum left in Europe, and Freemasonry began to fill

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<v Speaker 1>that void and organize a new universal Church to unite

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<v Speaker 1>man under these values and subvert the current Catholic Old

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<v Speaker 1>World order and replace it with its New World order,

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<v Speaker 1>which is basically led by Rosicrucianism and Freemasonry, teaching an

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<v Speaker 1>enlightened position that all religions are allegorical and equal. A

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<v Speaker 1>core belief of this is also to deny the unique

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<v Speaker 1>incarnation of God into men and through Jesus Christ, and

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<v Speaker 1>also rejecting the idea of sin and Christ's death being

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<v Speaker 1>necessary for human salvation. There is no belief in the

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<v Speaker 1>old world order in these traditions, and no belief in

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<v Speaker 1>the sacraments of the Church as necessary. They believe that

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<v Speaker 1>human nature alone is sufficient for humanity's happiness in their view,

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<v Speaker 1>and these new world values allowed for the Protestant view

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<v Speaker 1>of Christianity to thrive. So it's not really surprising to

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<v Speaker 1>see a correlation between where Freemasonry tends to thrive is

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<v Speaker 1>also places where Protestantism tends to thrive too, so this

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<v Speaker 1>show Like examples of this would be European centers where

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<v Speaker 1>Protestantism was already well rooted, like Scotland who had Presbyterianism,

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<v Speaker 1>England was Anglicanism, Germany Lutheran, etc. Similarly, Freemasonry caught on

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<v Speaker 1>largely also in the Southern United States, where there happens

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<v Speaker 1>to be you know, the Bible belt umbrella of Protestant

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<v Speaker 1>Christian denominations. So seems to go a little bit hand

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<v Speaker 1>in hand with like this idea that you can interpret

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<v Speaker 1>the word for yourself, go buy solo scriptura scripture alone.

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<v Speaker 1>And then also like these naturalistic values not so much

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<v Speaker 1>the traditions and relying on an outside authority, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes too when I thought it was interesting when

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<v Speaker 1>I heard that term, like New World Order versus Old

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<v Speaker 1>world Old World order, like as conspiracy theorists we love

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about, you know, warning about the New World

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<v Speaker 1>Order agenda, trying to prevent that from coming to fruition

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<v Speaker 1>but then it's like, do we understand what the old

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<v Speaker 1>world world order was?

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<v Speaker 3>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Was that better? Is that what people would like to

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<v Speaker 1>go back to? If you're if you're not for the

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<v Speaker 1>New World Order? What's the old world order?

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<v Speaker 2>Then?

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<v Speaker 1>Especially like the Tartaria lovers, you know, who allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>this classical time and all the beautiful architecture will bro

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<v Speaker 1>that was under a Catholic monarchy, a lot of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, It's true, Like what old world order are you thinking?

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<v Speaker 3>Is an ideal? You know?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Just what is it? Which one do you choose? Medieval

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<v Speaker 3>where everybody died at thirty one or whatever?

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<v Speaker 1>Right where we were like taken by the by the

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<v Speaker 1>bowels and like you know, quartered in the town.

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<v Speaker 3>I say, like old Italian towns would be divided into

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<v Speaker 3>like forty four factions and they'd be building towers and

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<v Speaker 3>chucking spears at each other and just the most violent stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a lot of our politicians we just go and

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<v Speaker 1>like get them with pitchforks and burn them at the

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<v Speaker 1>stake right now, like maybe we should be doing that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, they're about to get it here in California,

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<v Speaker 3>I gotta tell you that there's no question.

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<v Speaker 1>Well people, yeah, literally just shove them outside into the fire.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, there's one out there ready. I guess it could be.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know some of these people are going to

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<v Speaker 3>be able to walk in the streets here, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it is. It is interesting like the kind

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<v Speaker 3>of growth of feed Freemasonry and Protestantism, and really there

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<v Speaker 3>really is a tie there or different ideas like Illuminism

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<v Speaker 3>maybe that's not Freemasonry, but definitely around in the seventeenth

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<v Speaker 3>century Ingolstadt, which is even though he's an ex Jesuit priest,

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<v Speaker 3>Wishaupt is doing something like totally liberal non church ideas, right,

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<v Speaker 3>non sanctioned Catholic, traditional trad kid traditional churches church.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, And then just to continue on when historically

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<v Speaker 1>when Freemasonry kind of more formally organized about two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>years later, so in seventeen seventeen, the Catholic Church basically

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<v Speaker 1>became their enemy number one. Organized religion was rejected largely

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<v Speaker 1>in favor of the idea that all religions are equally

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<v Speaker 1>attempting to understand the great architect of the universe, as

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<v Speaker 1>they call it. That's totally right, and as we know

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<v Speaker 1>from Albert Pike's own writings in Morals and Dogma, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a famous book that he wrote, he does refer

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<v Speaker 1>to that great architect as Lucifer himself in his own writing.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, and basically, in the eyes of the Freemason,

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<v Speaker 1>all religions are equally true and therefore equally false at

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<v Speaker 1>the same time. And they're all basically human attempts to

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<v Speaker 1>try and understand God, which I can kind of see,

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<v Speaker 1>just say, it is a very theosophical idea, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah. According to this view, the way to acquire

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<v Speaker 1>of Catholicism like baptism or the Eucharist liturgy or the priesthood.

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<v Speaker 1>Humanity just needs more reason. And I think we're seeing

419
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<v Speaker 1>this in like the modern day, especially when like now,

420
00:24:52.000 --> 00:24:55.519
<v Speaker 1>the cult of science is leading the way, you know,

421
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<v Speaker 1>reason through the United Nations World Economic Forum, et cetera.

422
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<v Speaker 1>This is all a consequence of Martin Luther's assertion that

423
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<v Speaker 1>religious authority is from scripture alone, solo scriptura, and not

424
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<v Speaker 1>derived by the more mystical elements of faith. And this

425
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<v Speaker 1>opened the door wide for individual reasoning and essentially moral

426
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<v Speaker 1>relativism to increase throughout the centuries to come. And this

427
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<v Speaker 1>is also why the Catholic Church began to excommunicate Catholics

428
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<v Speaker 1>who joined freemasonry, because essentially it is a religion of

429
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<v Speaker 1>all religions and therefore does not correlate with the Catholic

430
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<v Speaker 1>beliefs if you're you know, truly practicing your faith as

431
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<v Speaker 1>you claim. And what was I going to say there, Sorry,

432
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<v Speaker 1>lost my spot for a second. Oh yeah. While freemasonry

433
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<v Speaker 1>is a secret society of sorts, it's not so secret

434
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<v Speaker 1>about its pursuit of the new world order in the

435
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<v Speaker 1>name of equality. Right, yes, I think too. People would

436
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<v Speaker 1>be shocked at like how different the popes are now

437
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<v Speaker 1>in like the modern day versus like even two hundred

438
00:26:03.759 --> 00:26:06.799
<v Speaker 1>years ago. So when all this thought was going on

439
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<v Speaker 1>in the eighteen hundreds, there are papal documents in Canaan

440
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<v Speaker 1>church law now making room for clerical marriage, divorce and remarriage,

441
00:26:16.799 --> 00:26:20.559
<v Speaker 1>liberty of conscious over objective moral law, political rebellion, and

442
00:26:20.599 --> 00:26:23.240
<v Speaker 1>separation of church and state. In the past, church and

443
00:26:23.240 --> 00:26:27.200
<v Speaker 1>state was together, was never a separate concept. That's a

444
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<v Speaker 1>very modern thing, right.

445
00:26:29.200 --> 00:26:32.559
<v Speaker 3>Right, that's American thing, right, It's very ama.

446
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<v Speaker 1>That's right. That's the founding of the country is basically

447
00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:43.079
<v Speaker 1>in protest of that, right. Yeah, and yeah, basically from

448
00:26:43.079 --> 00:26:45.599
<v Speaker 1>it the time of its writing to now, the instructions

449
00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:49.160
<v Speaker 1>outlined in the Alta Vendida have indeed taken deep roots

450
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<v Speaker 1>within the Catholic Church and society at large. I think.

451
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<v Speaker 3>It's changed, and I think that the faith versus reason

452
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<v Speaker 3>thing is why so many many people in our modern

453
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<v Speaker 3>age do not have Christian faith. They do not believe

454
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<v Speaker 3>in because it's not reasonable to them. So they've been

455
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<v Speaker 3>in neword to the concept of reason over mystery and faith,

456
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<v Speaker 3>right m hm. So it doesn't make sense to them,

457
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<v Speaker 3>so it's like, why am I going to do this?

458
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<v Speaker 1>It's interesting too, though, because I think there is something

459
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<v Speaker 1>in the heart of a human in general that has

460
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<v Speaker 1>like a hole for God. And even though they reject

461
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<v Speaker 1>through reason, then you see the rise in other forms

462
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<v Speaker 1>of mysticism, like there always is this other searching happening

463
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<v Speaker 1>for God, right, So instead of filling it with the

464
00:27:34.160 --> 00:27:39.599
<v Speaker 1>traditional to replace Christianity, you just found a replacement. Yeah, exactly,

465
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<v Speaker 1>And that's why I see the rise in secret societies, occultism, witchcraft, right,

466
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<v Speaker 1>Like it's interesting.

467
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<v Speaker 3>They're all very religious extreme Because I'm not religious. I'm like,

468
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<v Speaker 3>I bet you're religious in one way or another.

469
00:27:54.160 --> 00:27:54.920
<v Speaker 1>I bet you are.

470
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<v Speaker 3>If you don't even go to masonry, I bet you

471
00:27:57.079 --> 00:27:59.880
<v Speaker 3>might get up every day and have your little economic

472
00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:03.440
<v Speaker 3>consumer's rituals, going to get coffee or eating it in

473
00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:06.359
<v Speaker 3>and out Burger every week or something like that. So yeah,

474
00:28:06.400 --> 00:28:09.839
<v Speaker 3>people deceive themselves into thinking they're not religious.

475
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<v Speaker 1>Totally or like, yeah, we've just replaced these rituals with

476
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<v Speaker 1>other rituals right.

477
00:28:14.279 --> 00:28:17.799
<v Speaker 3>Or watching it could be yeah, a addiction watching football

478
00:28:17.839 --> 00:28:20.240
<v Speaker 3>every Sunday. I know people who take the Sunday off,

479
00:28:20.519 --> 00:28:22.200
<v Speaker 3>they don't go to church and they watch the NFL.

480
00:28:22.240 --> 00:28:26.680
<v Speaker 3>That's their religion. So I mean there's there's definitely, like

481
00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:30.119
<v Speaker 3>you said, there's a hole. People fill that hole. I

482
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<v Speaker 3>would say, the faithful is the best way to kind

483
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<v Speaker 3>of fild that. But or you know, it's something doing

484
00:28:36.160 --> 00:28:39.400
<v Speaker 3>going into church or at least I mean being going

485
00:28:39.400 --> 00:28:42.440
<v Speaker 3>to Catholic church is probably better than spending time watching football.

486
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<v Speaker 3>Giving those people your.

487
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<v Speaker 1>Time and effort would probably I would say. And yeah,

488
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<v Speaker 1>just to continue our like brief historical rundown, do you

489
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<v Speaker 1>want to do you want to take this part.

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<v Speaker 4>Nick, where were you left? The Freemasons and socialists. Yeah,

491
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<v Speaker 4>Damasons and socialists persecuted Christianity intensely in the earl twentieth century,

492
00:29:06.319 --> 00:29:10.359
<v Speaker 4>especially in countries like Mexico, Spain, and Russia. Not only that,

493
00:29:10.440 --> 00:29:13.160
<v Speaker 4>but beginning in the nineteen thirties, the Russians began secretly

494
00:29:13.200 --> 00:29:16.240
<v Speaker 4>infiltrating the Catholic seminaries to put their own men with

495
00:29:16.359 --> 00:29:21.359
<v Speaker 4>Communist ideals into the priesthood, who go on to become bishops, cardinals,

496
00:29:21.759 --> 00:29:25.160
<v Speaker 4>and even Pope someday, exactly as outlined in the Ulta

497
00:29:25.279 --> 00:29:29.839
<v Speaker 4>Vendita by the Kabinari Freemasons so many years earlier to

498
00:29:29.960 --> 00:29:35.519
<v Speaker 4>secure pope according to our heart, Belladod, a former Communist

499
00:29:35.559 --> 00:29:38.920
<v Speaker 4>agent and later a Catholic convert, testified before the US

500
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<v Speaker 4>House Committee on Unamerican Activities Committee in nineteen fifty three

501
00:29:44.079 --> 00:29:48.720
<v Speaker 4>about the ways that Communists would infiltrate American institutions, including

502
00:29:48.759 --> 00:29:52.440
<v Speaker 4>giving details about a Russian order that used the exact

503
00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:57.559
<v Speaker 4>method of planting Communist party members into seminaries and Dio,

504
00:29:58.079 --> 00:29:58.359
<v Speaker 4>how do.

505
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<v Speaker 2>You say that one diocesan, Yeah, diocesan.

506
00:30:02.759 --> 00:30:08.440
<v Speaker 3>There's aggregation of Catholic.

507
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<v Speaker 4>Churches, Yes, she testified that in the nineteen thirties one

508
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<v Speaker 4>one hundred men were put into priesthood purposely to destroy

509
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<v Speaker 4>the church from within, and that right now they're in

510
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<v Speaker 4>the highest places in the church.

511
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So that was in nineteen fifty three that she

512
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<v Speaker 1>gave that testimony, right, And it's just like there's historical

513
00:30:28.839 --> 00:30:32.720
<v Speaker 1>proof that this happened, and I just not talked about

514
00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:36.319
<v Speaker 1>I think that much, right, And I don't think that's

515
00:30:36.319 --> 00:30:39.559
<v Speaker 1>a coincidence that then she's saying this in nineteen fifty three,

516
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<v Speaker 1>that there's communists literally in the highest levels of the

517
00:30:43.880 --> 00:30:46.960
<v Speaker 1>priesthood in the fifties, and then you have Vatican two

518
00:30:47.960 --> 00:30:51.559
<v Speaker 1>happening in the sixties, like right after that. So it's

519
00:30:51.599 --> 00:30:54.440
<v Speaker 1>like they stacked the deck, you know, and then called

520
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<v Speaker 1>for all this reform with members of their ideology.

521
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<v Speaker 3>I guess hear of Malachi Martin. I have, Yeah, Malchi

522
00:31:03.680 --> 00:31:05.839
<v Speaker 3>Martin wrote a book on that. They thought he was crazy.

523
00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:10.319
<v Speaker 3>He said that the Soviets are infiltrating the Catholic Church. No.

524
00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:12.160
<v Speaker 3>I think it was called a wind swept House or

525
00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:12.920
<v Speaker 3>something like that.

526
00:31:13.160 --> 00:31:14.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he was right.

527
00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:16.319
<v Speaker 3>I think he turned out to be right.

528
00:31:17.000 --> 00:31:21.839
<v Speaker 1>He was right. And also there's Saint Maximilian Colby, who

529
00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:24.160
<v Speaker 1>died in the Second World War. He was saying the

530
00:31:24.160 --> 00:31:30.200
<v Speaker 1>same thing, yeah, and actually specifically against freemasonry as well.

531
00:31:31.200 --> 00:31:34.400
<v Speaker 3>Malachi Martin is an interesting show in himself because he

532
00:31:34.519 --> 00:31:38.240
<v Speaker 3>encapsulates so many ideas modern ideas about the Catholic Church,

533
00:31:38.839 --> 00:31:45.119
<v Speaker 3>demon possession, extorcism, Soviet infiltration, masonry, protection of the pope.

534
00:31:46.119 --> 00:31:48.839
<v Speaker 3>Really interesting guy, really well read. I forgot what I

535
00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:50.359
<v Speaker 3>think he was either a jazz or I think it

536
00:31:50.400 --> 00:31:51.079
<v Speaker 3>was a Jesuit.

537
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<v Speaker 1>I think so, actually, yeah, that's right. Yeah. So if

538
00:31:56.119 --> 00:31:59.039
<v Speaker 1>people don't know what Vatican two is, I think most

539
00:31:59.039 --> 00:32:02.720
<v Speaker 1>people might be vaguely familiar. But basically, Vatican two was

540
00:32:02.720 --> 00:32:07.519
<v Speaker 1>like a reform of the Catholic Church and it marked

541
00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:10.079
<v Speaker 1>a time of big changes, basically taking away a lot

542
00:32:10.079 --> 00:32:14.200
<v Speaker 1>of the supernatural elements of the faith, moving from faith

543
00:32:14.240 --> 00:32:17.799
<v Speaker 1>in Jesus Christ to faith in man, less about Christ's

544
00:32:17.839 --> 00:32:20.799
<v Speaker 1>kingship and more about faith in humanity alone, so sort

545
00:32:20.799 --> 00:32:23.920
<v Speaker 1>of implementing those free Masamic ideals. And it also was

546
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<v Speaker 1>the debut of the Novus Ordo Mass, so the New

547
00:32:27.960 --> 00:32:32.240
<v Speaker 1>Order mass. I don't think it's a coincidence that it's

548
00:32:32.279 --> 00:32:35.440
<v Speaker 1>called that. Yeah. So, formerly the Last was all in

549
00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:39.400
<v Speaker 1>the Mass was all in Latin prior to Vatican Two,

550
00:32:40.359 --> 00:32:43.279
<v Speaker 1>so it was a universal church language that everyone had

551
00:32:43.279 --> 00:32:45.039
<v Speaker 1>to know, at least for the Mass parts. I mean,

552
00:32:45.079 --> 00:32:47.079
<v Speaker 1>you didn't have to be fluent in Latin by any means,

553
00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:50.640
<v Speaker 1>but you'd be familiar with it to participate in Mass.

554
00:32:51.119 --> 00:32:55.200
<v Speaker 1>And then novus ordo Mass, there's some things changed, especially

555
00:32:55.240 --> 00:32:59.599
<v Speaker 1>regarding the Eucharist, and it's in your own native language,

556
00:33:00.119 --> 00:33:03.640
<v Speaker 1>so like in America, in Canada it's in English. In

557
00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:07.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, Africa would be in whatever Swahili or whatever

558
00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:11.000
<v Speaker 1>language you speak there, right, So it's an interesting shift.

559
00:33:11.920 --> 00:33:14.039
<v Speaker 3>It would cause the huge schism within the church. The

560
00:33:14.079 --> 00:33:17.640
<v Speaker 3>hair guy's really about Vatican too today.

561
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<v Speaker 1>Well I can kind of see why. I mean, growing up,

562
00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:22.960
<v Speaker 1>I didn't understand what is the big deal. I didn't

563
00:33:22.960 --> 00:33:25.279
<v Speaker 1>even know it existed till I asked my parents why

564
00:33:25.319 --> 00:33:27.880
<v Speaker 1>my dad's parents don't go to church anymore? And it

565
00:33:27.960 --> 00:33:31.119
<v Speaker 1>was because they stopped going when those changes were made.

566
00:33:31.160 --> 00:33:33.119
<v Speaker 1>And it's sort of like a form of protest.

567
00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:38.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they had. Uh. The guy was on Joe Rogan,

568
00:33:38.079 --> 00:33:41.359
<v Speaker 3>who was mad Max's name. Again, it's he's a really

569
00:33:41.440 --> 00:33:45.079
<v Speaker 3>traditional Catholic, but I think his family left the Catholic

570
00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:46.759
<v Speaker 3>or like he kind of skis him out of the

571
00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:51.440
<v Speaker 3>Catholic church and state tradition. Oh yeah, because of that

572
00:33:51.559 --> 00:33:53.640
<v Speaker 3>Vatican too. They thought it was like a real disgrace.

573
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<v Speaker 3>So he had to set his own church up in

574
00:33:55.799 --> 00:33:59.839
<v Speaker 3>Malibu or something like that. Yeah, own Catholic. Oh wow,

575
00:34:00.119 --> 00:34:02.519
<v Speaker 3>that he could be a traditional, true trad CAF.

576
00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:04.519
<v Speaker 1>Well that's what you get. Yeah, you get this term

577
00:34:04.640 --> 00:34:08.840
<v Speaker 1>rad trad Catholic radical traditional. It means that they they

578
00:34:09.239 --> 00:34:11.159
<v Speaker 1>honor the traditions of like Vatican One.

579
00:34:11.719 --> 00:34:13.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm on a guys show, good Juice Ski. I don't

580
00:34:13.760 --> 00:34:15.360
<v Speaker 3>know if you should listen to him. He's a cool guy,

581
00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:19.920
<v Speaker 3>but he's a he goes by trad cat night. Oh

582
00:34:19.960 --> 00:34:25.480
<v Speaker 3>I know, ye yeah, I really you don't think the same.

583
00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:28.119
<v Speaker 3>But he's done. He's willing to like look into stuff

584
00:34:28.159 --> 00:34:29.480
<v Speaker 3>like Satanism.

585
00:34:29.559 --> 00:34:31.679
<v Speaker 1>Well, the thing is a lot of the traditional Catholics

586
00:34:31.719 --> 00:34:35.519
<v Speaker 1>are more conspiratorial minded actually, because they understand, like there

587
00:34:35.800 --> 00:34:39.400
<v Speaker 1>was an infiltration, this was a conspiracy against the church itself.

588
00:34:40.079 --> 00:34:42.760
<v Speaker 1>It's interesting, but then you.

589
00:34:42.719 --> 00:34:45.239
<v Speaker 3>Probably get a kick, Yeah for sure, talking with them.

590
00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:49.960
<v Speaker 1>Smart, that'd be cool. So Bella DoD who Nick referred

591
00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:52.719
<v Speaker 1>to before the woman who testified at that US committee.

592
00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:56.760
<v Speaker 1>She said that it wasn't just a priesthood that Communists

593
00:34:56.840 --> 00:35:01.159
<v Speaker 1>were infiltrating also public school system as teachers. Yes, so

594
00:35:01.199 --> 00:35:04.039
<v Speaker 1>this perfectly echoes the agenda set in the altiv adeda

595
00:35:04.119 --> 00:35:08.119
<v Speaker 1>document to you know, influence the youth. It was with

596
00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:11.360
<v Speaker 1>any ideology, that's what they do, They go to the youth.

597
00:35:11.440 --> 00:35:14.519
<v Speaker 1>Hitler did the same thing. Communists in Russia did the

598
00:35:14.519 --> 00:35:19.079
<v Speaker 1>same thing, and yeah, this revolutionized the church from within,

599
00:35:19.280 --> 00:35:22.599
<v Speaker 1>from Vatican to and beyond. The coldinals who were a

600
00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:25.559
<v Speaker 1>part of the Saint Gallan mafia itself would have been

601
00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:29.079
<v Speaker 1>children or teenagers at this time when the Communists were

602
00:35:29.079 --> 00:35:33.960
<v Speaker 1>aggressively infiltrating the seminaries, So they themselves were growing up

603
00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:39.320
<v Speaker 1>in a radically changing time and they would have been

604
00:35:39.559 --> 00:35:45.679
<v Speaker 1>inundated with this like new ideology. Basically. Another communist agent,

605
00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:48.400
<v Speaker 1>his name is Manning Johnson. He testified at the same

606
00:35:48.960 --> 00:35:52.119
<v Speaker 1>US House Committee in nineteen fifty three as Belladod. He

607
00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:56.039
<v Speaker 1>said that the policy of infiltrating the seminaries was beyond

608
00:35:56.880 --> 00:36:00.400
<v Speaker 1>it was successful beyond even the Communist expectation, so it

609
00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:05.880
<v Speaker 1>was like wildly successful. Belladot herself also admitted that at

610
00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:09.920
<v Speaker 1>least four of their priests who were you know, sent

611
00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:14.360
<v Speaker 1>to infiltrate, had attained the level of cardinal. So that's

612
00:36:14.760 --> 00:36:20.159
<v Speaker 1>pretty influential. Yeah, and then like fast forward to nineteen

613
00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:22.440
<v Speaker 1>ninety five, nineteen ninety six, where we have the Saint

614
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Gallen mafia coming together to conspire. They were hoping to

615
00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:31.199
<v Speaker 1>succeed Pope Jump all the second with their own men

616
00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:35.440
<v Speaker 1>of course, and yeah, they were trying to put those

617
00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:38.159
<v Speaker 1>ideas forth from the Alta Vendida, and we do know

618
00:36:38.199 --> 00:36:41.719
<v Speaker 1>of their actual existence existence from their own writings, thanks

619
00:36:41.760 --> 00:36:45.599
<v Speaker 1>to a man who's part of it. Cardinal Daniels is

620
00:36:45.599 --> 00:36:48.960
<v Speaker 1>his name from Belgium, and he is a cardinal who's

621
00:36:49.000 --> 00:36:53.960
<v Speaker 1>publicly supported abortion in same sex marriage. Daniel's own biographers

622
00:36:54.039 --> 00:36:57.599
<v Speaker 1>wrote that the election of Jorge Bergolia was prepared by

623
00:36:57.639 --> 00:37:00.480
<v Speaker 1>the Saint Gallen mafia beyond a out.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, yeah, did we mention before that they actually we

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<v Speaker 4>did mention that they met in the city of Saint St.

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<v Speaker 2>It's actually s A n K T.

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<v Speaker 1>Right Gallon.

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<v Speaker 3>You mentioned at the beginning that's how they got their name.

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<v Speaker 4>R Yeah, all right, so yeah, so basically, yeah, so

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<v Speaker 4>you had Now now we have a bunch of these

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<v Speaker 4>high ranking church people, you know, gathering there who opposed

632
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<v Speaker 4>Cardinal Joseph Ratzingrew's papacy. And most of these, many of

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<v Speaker 4>the cardinals who were meeting there, were part of you

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<v Speaker 4>know that we're part of the Saint glam mafia. Can

635
00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:41.599
<v Speaker 4>be traced back to being consecrated by one particular priest

636
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<v Speaker 4>who was also a confirmed Freemason, and that was Cardinal

637
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<v Speaker 4>Mariano Ranpola del Tindaro.

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<v Speaker 2>And have you ever heard of him, Ramsey.

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<v Speaker 3>I have not.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't tell this research.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm interested in this stuff because it just shows

642
00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:06.480
<v Speaker 3>like the machinations and the battles between i don't know,

643
00:38:06.519 --> 00:38:08.880
<v Speaker 3>simply put right and left stuff within a you know,

644
00:38:09.039 --> 00:38:13.480
<v Speaker 3>so many political organizations were squabbling and absolutely fighting for

645
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<v Speaker 3>control and their ideology and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well he was.

647
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<v Speaker 4>Rampolo was secretary of State under Pope Pious the thirteenth

648
00:38:21.000 --> 00:38:22.519
<v Speaker 4>and that was the one who had the visions of

649
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<v Speaker 4>Satan approaching the guy to throne. As secretary of State,

650
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<v Speaker 4>Cardinal Rampola supported the Austrian Christian Social Party. The Christian

651
00:38:32.719 --> 00:38:36.400
<v Speaker 4>Social Party was the first Catholic social movement that was

652
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<v Speaker 4>both anti liberal and anti Semitic. Maybe that's possibly Nazi ideology.

653
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

654
00:38:43.719 --> 00:38:46.800
<v Speaker 3>Catholics were very sympathetic to the Nazis.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well you know what I mean, you could also

656
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<v Speaker 4>have been scared. I mean, I don't know, I don't know.

657
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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I'm saying that's a reason to cow down

658
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<v Speaker 4>to the guy. But I could see some people that

659
00:38:57.280 --> 00:38:59.159
<v Speaker 4>were just saying, oh, yeah, yeah, he's okay, Like you.

660
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<v Speaker 2>Don't you know, what, do you want to say something

661
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<v Speaker 2>and then get killed?

662
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<v Speaker 3>Well this is true as well, But I think that there,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, there was the Axis Powers was Italy at

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<v Speaker 3>that time, Yeah, and Mussolini, So I think that there

665
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<v Speaker 3>was kind of like a similar kind of fashion.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is true. You know, I have to do.

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<v Speaker 1>A tendency to that ideology in their own country, Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what's even interesting too, like some of the

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<v Speaker 4>stuff that we covered when it came to I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like Italy kind of like was being the sneak thiefs

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<v Speaker 4>with the occult architecture, more out in the open than

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<v Speaker 4>it Germany was. But nobody seems to pay attention to

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<v Speaker 4>what Italy was doing in World War Two.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting. Yeah, Saint Peter's that central Sundial is really a

675
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<v Speaker 3>cult and they I don't know how they stuck stuck

676
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<v Speaker 3>it in there, but there's other occult architecture throughout Rome

677
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<v Speaker 3>and stuff like that.

678
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like Italy.

679
00:39:49.360 --> 00:39:54.440
<v Speaker 4>Italy went into Ethiopia when at the time the guy

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<v Speaker 4>who was in charge of Ethiopia thought he was direct

681
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<v Speaker 4>bloodline from Solomon. They went in there, it took and

682
00:40:01.320 --> 00:40:04.039
<v Speaker 4>took the line of Judah, which Crowley ripped off.

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<v Speaker 2>And uh and uh and uh obelisk.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't really have to hear anybody talking about that,

685
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<v Speaker 4>but they went in there and took a cold architecture.

686
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<v Speaker 3>That obelisk in the center of Saint Peter's is actually

687
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<v Speaker 3>an obelisk that was taken from Egypt by none other

688
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<v Speaker 3>than uh, what is what's his name, the guy little boot?

689
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<v Speaker 3>Uh what's the Roman Empire? Roman Empire? There is the

690
00:40:31.159 --> 00:40:33.320
<v Speaker 3>Catholic Church kind of took it over, but it was

691
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<v Speaker 3>not Nero, the guy after Nero. That's from the for

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<v Speaker 3>some other reason. But yeah, oh it has an interesting

693
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<v Speaker 3>history in itself, but yeah, I mean it is. It's

694
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<v Speaker 3>really incredible, Like a lot of this history and a

695
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<v Speaker 3>lot of this kind of right left fighting within the

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<v Speaker 3>Catholic Church for for authority. I mean, isn't isn't Bargoglio

697
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<v Speaker 3>kind of seen that's kind of more sympathetic than maybe

698
00:41:03.159 --> 00:41:05.400
<v Speaker 3>people thought he was. They thought he was really conservative

699
00:41:05.400 --> 00:41:08.960
<v Speaker 3>and then kind of made some different things.

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<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, basically like Pope Francis's papacy so far has

701
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<v Speaker 1>been like an item list from the Saint Alum mafia.

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<v Speaker 1>Like the reforms he's trying to make. It's like literally

703
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<v Speaker 1>like check jack, check. So yeah, Nick, I think you

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<v Speaker 1>have a bit more.

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<v Speaker 2>H yeah, cardinal right, Yeah, he did.

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<v Speaker 4>He fought new penal codes that aimed to criminalize clerical activity.

707
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<v Speaker 4>He was just had a strong association with French freemasonry.

708
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<v Speaker 4>He went on to consecrate bishops and cardinals and you know,

709
00:41:39.719 --> 00:41:42.519
<v Speaker 4>maybe they were also aligned with maybe some of his ideology,

710
00:41:42.559 --> 00:41:45.960
<v Speaker 4>who knows. And in his lineage that what is the

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<v Speaker 4>episcopal lineage, I'm saying that episcopal lineage can be traced

712
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<v Speaker 4>directly to Pope Francis as well as many of the

713
00:41:54.239 --> 00:41:57.719
<v Speaker 4>cardinals who make up the Saint Gallum mafia. Many of

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<v Speaker 4>the cardinals and archbishops associated with his lineage were the

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<v Speaker 4>ones who were running the Vatican ratlines evacuating Nazis from

716
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<v Speaker 4>Italy into Argentina and other South American countries, where Bigoglio

717
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<v Speaker 4>and Pope Francis.

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<v Speaker 1>Is from Yames from Argentina.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this kind of central piece of all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>Another cardinal in that lineage was Cardinal Sebastian Baggio. And

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<v Speaker 4>according to Father Charles Murr, he said, all those bishops

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<v Speaker 4>and cardinals who formed the Saint Gallant group were named

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<v Speaker 4>by Cardinal Sebastian Baggio. And he was saying that referring

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<v Speaker 4>to one of the cardinals who in nineteen seventy four

725
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<v Speaker 4>was accused by two other cardinals of being a freemason.

726
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<v Speaker 4>Charles Murr was a close friend of Cardinal Edward Gagna,

727
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<v Speaker 4>a Gagnon who had been tasked by the Pope to

728
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<v Speaker 4>investigate the problem of freemasonry within the Vatican in hierarchy,

729
00:43:01.239 --> 00:43:04.159
<v Speaker 4>and was privy to some of these internal findings and debates.

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<v Speaker 4>He describes in the book How In nineteen seventy four,

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<v Speaker 4>two Cardinals Dino Staffa and Silvilio Addi presented Paul the

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<v Speaker 4>sixth with documentation about two Vatican prelates. One of them

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<v Speaker 4>was Cardinal Sebastiano Baggio, who was accused by Audio Odi

734
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<v Speaker 4>and Staffa with proof in hand for being active Freemasons.

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<v Speaker 4>Cardinal Baggio was perfect of this. He was perfect of

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<v Speaker 4>the Sacred Congregation for Bishops from nineteen seventy three until

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen eighty four, and as such had great influence over

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<v Speaker 4>which clergymen were chosen as bishops and often subsequently cardinals.

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<v Speaker 4>There at the Saint Gallen Group members who were appointed

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00:43:52.039 --> 00:43:58.280
<v Speaker 4>bishops when Cardinal Sebastian Baggio, known freemason, was active, and

741
00:43:58.320 --> 00:44:00.000
<v Speaker 4>the list of the Saint Gallen Group can be fed

742
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<v Speaker 4>on Wikipedia. And here relicted those bishops who were picked

743
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<v Speaker 4>during the time of Cardinal Baggio, and that would be

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<v Speaker 4>uh Cardinal Carlo Martini nineteen eighty, Cardinal Ted McCarrick nineteen

745
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<v Speaker 4>seventy seven, Cardinal Godfrey Daniels nineteen seventy seven, Cardinal Carl

746
00:44:18.519 --> 00:44:23.599
<v Speaker 4>Lehman in nineteen eighty three, Cardinal Achilles silvastrini nineteen seventy nine,

747
00:44:23.719 --> 00:44:30.880
<v Speaker 4>Cardinal Murphy O'Connor seventy seven, Bishop Whozar seventy seven, and

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<v Speaker 4>Cardinal Joseph pla Carpo in seventy eight. If I do

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<v Speaker 4>if I do remember correctly, wasn't there, Teresa, was this

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<v Speaker 4>somebody who recently came out, well not recently, probably about

751
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<v Speaker 4>five or six years ago, actually came out and said,

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<v Speaker 4>like one of these people actually like kind of was

753
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<v Speaker 4>like messing with them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so probably the one you're thinking of is Cardinal

755
00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:55.840
<v Speaker 1>ten mcerrick. Yeah, yeah, he was like people might know

756
00:44:55.920 --> 00:44:59.280
<v Speaker 1>his name from being like really in the headlines with

757
00:44:59.320 --> 00:45:03.920
<v Speaker 1>the clergy abuse scandals. He's like a prolific like abuser.

758
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<v Speaker 1>So he was part of the Saint Alan Mafia.

759
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<v Speaker 3>What was his name again, Eternal Ted.

760
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<v Speaker 1>McCarrick mc ca rick. Yeah, he's like a prolific abuser

761
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<v Speaker 1>and he's part of this influential group which is grazy.

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<v Speaker 3>So Saint Allen is north eastern Switzerland, so it's up

763
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<v Speaker 3>in the northeastern.

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<v Speaker 4>In the nineteen seventies, various members of the Saint Alam

765
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<v Speaker 4>Mafia spring into action and focus specifically on subverting priestly

766
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<v Speaker 4>celibacy and the prohibition against communion for the divorced and

767
00:45:38.480 --> 00:45:43.079
<v Speaker 4>civilly remarried. Later, after the mafia began meeting around nineteen

768
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<v Speaker 4>ninety six, Martini gave a nineteen ninety nine dream speech

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<v Speaker 4>in which he listed a number of doctrinal and disciplinal

770
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<v Speaker 4>knots that needed to be addressed. He's spoke in somewhat

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00:45:55.199 --> 00:45:57.880
<v Speaker 4>coded terms, but he was referring to issues such as

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<v Speaker 4>the ordination of married men, communion for the divorced and

773
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<v Speaker 4>civilly remarried, sinidality, and so on. During the Pontificate of

774
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<v Speaker 4>Benedict sixth sixteenth, the mafia lette multi pronged war. Specifically,

775
00:46:16.000 --> 00:46:18.880
<v Speaker 4>Martini kept alive the dream of another council or series

776
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<v Speaker 4>of synods. Casper clung to the hope of opening up

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00:46:22.159 --> 00:46:25.360
<v Speaker 4>communion to the vorce and Civilly remarried, and the Nils

778
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<v Speaker 4>pushed for exemptions to the ban on condoms. But their agenda,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, only went so far. Their efforts at the

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<v Speaker 4>two thousand and five Oh that's yours, Sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Worry, Yeah, I know. It's just interesting that Okay, I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to make a note about the term synod s

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<v Speaker 1>y n od. So I didn't never heard that word

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<v Speaker 1>till maybe a few years ago. So with this Cardinal

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00:46:51.840 --> 00:46:55.119
<v Speaker 1>Carlo Martini calling for synods, it's basically like a meeting

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<v Speaker 1>of Christians to discuss reform within their community, and it

787
00:46:59.719 --> 00:47:05.760
<v Speaker 1>would influence like change from the community upwards as opposed

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<v Speaker 1>to the papacy, which should be like from the top

789
00:47:08.719 --> 00:47:12.719
<v Speaker 1>down right influencing change. So it's more like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the community, what people want the church to just like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, change with the world, that sort of thing,

792
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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to the world changing around the church. And

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<v Speaker 1>in the last few years, I think since twenty twenty one,

794
00:47:26.360 --> 00:47:32.079
<v Speaker 1>there's been the Synod on Sinidelity happening in Rome, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, how much more of a synod do you want?

796
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<v Speaker 1>It's the Synod on Sinintality and then like just finished.

797
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<v Speaker 1>I think it was for like four years, pretty crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>so a lot of changes were like discussed during this time.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, what are they going to say here?

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<v Speaker 3>And some people think that you know, in the US

801
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<v Speaker 3>it's so byzantine, there's so many different religious groups and everything,

802
00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:02.039
<v Speaker 3>but in other countries it's the Catholic Church. It's all

803
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<v Speaker 3>you get, and there's barely any kind of Protestant or Evangelicals.

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<v Speaker 3>From Mexico, they used to kill them really in the

805
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<v Speaker 3>twentieth century. It happened like competitors against Catholic Church. So

806
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<v Speaker 3>we may not see the kind of potency and power.

807
00:48:16.840 --> 00:48:20.280
<v Speaker 3>But I talked to a guy in Argentina where Burgoglio

808
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<v Speaker 3>is from, and it's like Opus Day, which is another

809
00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:25.960
<v Speaker 3>secret society, and all these guys are involved in all

810
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<v Speaker 3>kinds of very traditional Catholic stuff all the way to

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<v Speaker 3>the top. It's apart and parcel of like power of

812
00:48:34.320 --> 00:48:37.920
<v Speaker 3>the exercise of power in Argentina and other Catholic countries.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's just something to think about.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, So the reforms that Nick mentioned about, you know, communion,

815
00:48:47.199 --> 00:48:50.719
<v Speaker 1>ordination of married men, also a larger role for women

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00:48:51.239 --> 00:48:53.719
<v Speaker 1>in the church, which I'm not seeing is necessarily a

817
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<v Speaker 1>bad thing. Is It's interesting that these ideas are traditionally

818
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<v Speaker 1>like not up for discussion. Really, another thing too is

819
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<v Speaker 1>influence of acceptance of other people. So in the church,

820
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<v Speaker 1>like the LGBTQ agenda and whatnot. Pope Francis basically has

821
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<v Speaker 1>like tackled the reforms on the Saint Gallan Mafia's list

822
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<v Speaker 1>and like implemented them like one after the other and

823
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<v Speaker 1>essentially reinforcing the ideals of the Freemasonic Alta vendida, the

824
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<v Speaker 1>destruction of the perennial teachings of the church and increased

825
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<v Speaker 1>liberalism of the church. The idea that the church needs

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<v Speaker 1>to update its dogmas, change with the times and surrender

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<v Speaker 1>to modernism and the world. One example of that is,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, the controversy in Pope Francis's papacy around the

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<v Speaker 1>Latin Mass. He's tried to like quell the Latin Mass

830
00:49:49.440 --> 00:49:54.800
<v Speaker 1>and essentially like force priests to stop practicing it, which

831
00:49:54.840 --> 00:49:56.960
<v Speaker 1>is strange because it's like, well, why why would you

832
00:49:57.000 --> 00:49:57.679
<v Speaker 1>want to do that?

833
00:49:57.880 --> 00:50:01.239
<v Speaker 3>Like, I know, it's the church is it's kind of

834
00:50:01.280 --> 00:50:04.599
<v Speaker 3>like centralized power from Rome. It is. Yeah, it's where

835
00:50:04.639 --> 00:50:08.000
<v Speaker 3>Saint Peter, you know, lent and was be it it supposedly.

836
00:50:08.800 --> 00:50:12.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Essentially, like you know, Paupe Francis is discouraging the

837
00:50:12.800 --> 00:50:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Latin Mass from being practiced. So that's the like pre

838
00:50:15.559 --> 00:50:18.760
<v Speaker 1>Vatican To version of the Mass and the celebration of

839
00:50:18.760 --> 00:50:23.880
<v Speaker 1>the Euchress. He only wants like the Novus Ordo Mass done,

840
00:50:24.039 --> 00:50:27.679
<v Speaker 1>and that also leaves room for changing how the host

841
00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:30.719
<v Speaker 1>is consecrated the Eucharus. So it's like, is it really

842
00:50:30.760 --> 00:50:33.599
<v Speaker 1>now like the Body of Christ anymore? Because you're changing

843
00:50:33.599 --> 00:50:37.320
<v Speaker 1>some of the wording how the ritual is done. It's

844
00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:39.079
<v Speaker 1>interesting to think about it, and it's like, why are you

845
00:50:39.159 --> 00:50:42.039
<v Speaker 1>harping so much on that mass? Is there something special

846
00:50:42.079 --> 00:50:44.760
<v Speaker 1>about it being said in Latin. Is there something special

847
00:50:44.760 --> 00:50:47.480
<v Speaker 1>about the rituals that, like we as the lay people

848
00:50:47.519 --> 00:50:51.440
<v Speaker 1>don't know about that, like the clergy knows, Like something

849
00:50:51.519 --> 00:50:54.519
<v Speaker 1>is more powerful about the Latin Mass. I've even heard

850
00:50:54.519 --> 00:50:57.920
<v Speaker 1>some people like convert because they attended Latin Mass, like

851
00:50:58.000 --> 00:51:02.360
<v Speaker 1>Shilah Buff the actor. He's somebody who played Padre Pio

852
00:51:02.480 --> 00:51:05.559
<v Speaker 1>in a movie and he was attending Latin mass as

853
00:51:05.840 --> 00:51:08.960
<v Speaker 1>staying with the Capuchin Friar monks, which padet Pio was

854
00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:11.519
<v Speaker 1>one of. He stayed with them for research for his role,

855
00:51:12.360 --> 00:51:15.800
<v Speaker 1>and he ended up converting to Catholicism because he was

856
00:51:15.840 --> 00:51:18.320
<v Speaker 1>so touched by his experience, and he said a big

857
00:51:18.400 --> 00:51:21.800
<v Speaker 1>part of it was attending the Latin Mass. And I'm like,

858
00:51:22.119 --> 00:51:25.440
<v Speaker 1>that's interesting. I think I've never attended one myself, but

859
00:51:25.480 --> 00:51:27.480
<v Speaker 1>from what I gather in like things that I've seen

860
00:51:27.519 --> 00:51:31.039
<v Speaker 1>written about it in videos, it seems that it's much

861
00:51:31.039 --> 00:51:34.079
<v Speaker 1>more mystical. And I think part of that is because

862
00:51:34.119 --> 00:51:36.639
<v Speaker 1>it's not in a language that you like fully understand,

863
00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:39.559
<v Speaker 1>or there is something about those old languages like Latin

864
00:51:39.679 --> 00:51:43.039
<v Speaker 1>Hebrew that is much more reverent.

865
00:51:44.239 --> 00:51:47.199
<v Speaker 4>I mean, here's something interesting I find interesting about this too,

866
00:51:47.320 --> 00:51:49.400
<v Speaker 4>is that when I end up not even making this

867
00:51:49.519 --> 00:51:53.199
<v Speaker 4>up when I left theto around that time, and there

868
00:51:53.239 --> 00:51:55.639
<v Speaker 4>was a few other people who did as well, for

869
00:51:55.679 --> 00:51:58.920
<v Speaker 4>all multiple reasons. And some of them I know, well,

870
00:51:59.000 --> 00:52:00.519
<v Speaker 4>unless they were making it up, I don't know why

871
00:52:00.559 --> 00:52:02.639
<v Speaker 4>they would all lie. And they were all going to

872
00:52:02.679 --> 00:52:06.840
<v Speaker 4>different ones. They left there and started going to Latin masses.

873
00:52:08.599 --> 00:52:12.559
<v Speaker 3>With that, and he crrelly based like that whole thing

874
00:52:12.679 --> 00:52:17.840
<v Speaker 3>on Russian Orthodox Orthodox. So it's that's also very ritualized,

875
00:52:17.920 --> 00:52:22.800
<v Speaker 3>and you know, yes, so I think so then you

876
00:52:22.880 --> 00:52:25.440
<v Speaker 3>talk about the needhole for God or whatever. People like

877
00:52:25.519 --> 00:52:28.480
<v Speaker 3>ritual too. They liked it, they liked the and if

878
00:52:28.519 --> 00:52:32.920
<v Speaker 3>you look at the last support, it's very ritualized. It's

879
00:52:33.039 --> 00:52:35.760
<v Speaker 3>very important, like you and my friends do this.

880
00:52:36.599 --> 00:52:39.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the words we say, you know, the priest

881
00:52:39.280 --> 00:52:44.239
<v Speaker 1>says at the consecration and the group responds in a

882
00:52:44.440 --> 00:52:48.159
<v Speaker 1>whole ritual like it's always the same and yeah, they're

883
00:52:48.199 --> 00:52:50.960
<v Speaker 1>that Cardinal Martini, who was part of the Saint Alum mafia.

884
00:52:51.519 --> 00:52:54.239
<v Speaker 1>He has of course broken with the Vatican on a

885
00:52:54.320 --> 00:52:56.599
<v Speaker 1>number of issues, one of them being the Latin mask.

886
00:52:57.039 --> 00:52:59.880
<v Speaker 1>He said that he loves the Latin language for prayer

887
00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:02.840
<v Speaker 1>and would have no trouble doing a Mass in Latin.

888
00:53:02.960 --> 00:53:05.639
<v Speaker 1>But he won't. He refuses. He says, I will not

889
00:53:05.719 --> 00:53:10.039
<v Speaker 1>do it. And it's like, well, why are you refusing,

890
00:53:10.199 --> 00:53:14.679
<v Speaker 1>Like you're a cardinal, Like shouldn't you have reverence for

891
00:53:14.760 --> 00:53:19.239
<v Speaker 1>this way of like celebrating the Eucharist? Why is there such.

892
00:53:19.079 --> 00:53:23.480
<v Speaker 3>A isn't there options within Catholic churches or dioceses where

893
00:53:24.039 --> 00:53:26.639
<v Speaker 3>people can get the Mass in English and also Latin,

894
00:53:26.960 --> 00:53:30.119
<v Speaker 3>because I thought I remember seeing that fairly recent where

895
00:53:30.199 --> 00:53:33.000
<v Speaker 3>like you have them everything's English and then five o'clock

896
00:53:33.079 --> 00:53:34.039
<v Speaker 3>Latin Mass, you know.

897
00:53:34.159 --> 00:53:36.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so if you do have a church like that

898
00:53:36.519 --> 00:53:40.039
<v Speaker 1>near you, that's a great option. A lot of churches,

899
00:53:40.079 --> 00:53:43.519
<v Speaker 1>at least in my experience I'm in Canada, but there's

900
00:53:43.559 --> 00:53:47.119
<v Speaker 1>not very many, Like Novas Orto. Mass in your native

901
00:53:47.159 --> 00:53:52.000
<v Speaker 1>language is the predominant way that it's done. But I

902
00:53:52.039 --> 00:53:54.199
<v Speaker 1>think we are seeing a movement by a lot of

903
00:53:54.239 --> 00:53:58.239
<v Speaker 1>even younger Catholics searching for that reverence and that ritual

904
00:53:58.480 --> 00:54:01.280
<v Speaker 1>that are seeking out the Latin Mess demanding it actually,

905
00:54:01.599 --> 00:54:05.159
<v Speaker 1>which is interesting because the Vatican apparently wants to quell

906
00:54:05.239 --> 00:54:11.320
<v Speaker 1>it totally. Yeah, So I don't know, it's interesting.

907
00:54:12.360 --> 00:54:15.760
<v Speaker 2>There I go now right, yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah.

908
00:54:15.800 --> 00:54:18.599
<v Speaker 4>So out of out of like these people that were

909
00:54:18.639 --> 00:54:22.000
<v Speaker 4>listed as you know, being part of the Saint Gallamafia,

910
00:54:22.360 --> 00:54:23.960
<v Speaker 4>I think I had a list of eleven. I'm sure

911
00:54:24.000 --> 00:54:26.880
<v Speaker 4>there's a more than that, but out of that list,

912
00:54:26.960 --> 00:54:29.039
<v Speaker 4>I did run you know, some I ran their names

913
00:54:29.079 --> 00:54:31.679
<v Speaker 4>just you know, looking for stuff online. Anything came up

914
00:54:31.719 --> 00:54:34.519
<v Speaker 4>besides this stuff. And I think I think you had

915
00:54:34.599 --> 00:54:37.440
<v Speaker 4>him up before you might. Ivo fra right there, you

916
00:54:37.480 --> 00:54:41.760
<v Speaker 4>have him up there him. He was the Bishop of

917
00:54:41.800 --> 00:54:43.920
<v Speaker 4>Saint Gallan from nineteen ninety five to two thousand and

918
00:54:43.960 --> 00:54:47.360
<v Speaker 4>five and hosted the Initiator. There was news reports of

919
00:54:47.440 --> 00:54:51.360
<v Speaker 4>him connected to Saint Gallamafia of covering up sexual abuse.

920
00:54:53.000 --> 00:54:56.639
<v Speaker 4>The University of Zurich researchers findings accused Bishop Ivo Feure

921
00:54:56.800 --> 00:54:59.960
<v Speaker 4>of allowing a priest to remain in ministry despite numerous

922
00:55:00.159 --> 00:55:06.079
<v Speaker 4>reports of sexual harassment. Basically, yeah, this guy was known

923
00:55:06.199 --> 00:55:08.880
<v Speaker 4>for like kissing and groping and just you know, being

924
00:55:09.119 --> 00:55:12.840
<v Speaker 4>a weird creep. And uh I think, uh yeah, he

925
00:55:12.920 --> 00:55:14.360
<v Speaker 4>basically just didn't say anything.

926
00:55:14.360 --> 00:55:17.280
<v Speaker 2>And I supposedly proof that he knew that was.

927
00:55:17.280 --> 00:55:20.960
<v Speaker 3>Rats Ur's job before he came became Bob. He was

928
00:55:21.039 --> 00:55:24.719
<v Speaker 3>kind of like a cwelling, a lot of the stuff.

929
00:55:24.719 --> 00:55:27.599
<v Speaker 3>And there the number three guy in the Catholic Church.

930
00:55:28.039 --> 00:55:31.360
<v Speaker 3>They got him off on some sexual abuse stuff. Guy

931
00:55:31.360 --> 00:55:34.679
<v Speaker 3>from Australia, forgot his name. Like yeah, some of these

932
00:55:34.719 --> 00:55:37.559
<v Speaker 3>like they're big wigs in the Catholic Church accused him.

933
00:55:38.199 --> 00:55:41.280
<v Speaker 1>Seemed to be a theme with this group in particular too.

934
00:55:41.320 --> 00:55:44.679
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, then you have godfreed Daniel's and there was a

935
00:55:44.920 --> 00:55:50.079
<v Speaker 4>Belgian sex tape. Abuse tapes amplify Catholic scandals. That's like

936
00:55:50.119 --> 00:55:52.800
<v Speaker 4>the news the news top of the news thing. Leak

937
00:55:52.880 --> 00:55:55.800
<v Speaker 4>tapes of Belgium Cardinal Godfrey Daniels urging a victim not

938
00:55:55.880 --> 00:55:58.559
<v Speaker 4>to reveal he was sexually abused by a bishop of

939
00:55:58.679 --> 00:56:01.239
<v Speaker 4>some of the most damaging docs to emerge in the

940
00:56:01.280 --> 00:56:03.599
<v Speaker 4>scandal rocking the Roman Catholic Church.

941
00:56:04.400 --> 00:56:06.760
<v Speaker 3>There's Godfrey dan de Nails right there.

942
00:56:06.960 --> 00:56:10.360
<v Speaker 4>The tapes, made secretly by the victim and published in

943
00:56:10.400 --> 00:56:15.360
<v Speaker 4>two Belgian newspapers on Saturday, show the former the former

944
00:56:15.360 --> 00:56:18.679
<v Speaker 4>exhorting him to accept a private apology or wait one

945
00:56:18.800 --> 00:56:22.360
<v Speaker 4>year until the bishop retired before making his case public.

946
00:56:24.320 --> 00:56:28.840
<v Speaker 4>I mean, that's so obvious that it's like jeez, yeah,

947
00:56:28.920 --> 00:56:32.719
<v Speaker 4>now you have ad Van l u y N Louen.

948
00:56:34.199 --> 00:56:40.679
<v Speaker 4>He was head of the Celesian Order Order from nineteen

949
00:56:40.719 --> 00:56:43.800
<v Speaker 4>seventy five to nineteen eighty one. The bishop was aware

950
00:56:43.800 --> 00:56:46.840
<v Speaker 4>of several concrete cases and had to take action. The

951
00:56:46.880 --> 00:56:49.639
<v Speaker 4>spokesman said it is the first time the bishop had

952
00:56:49.679 --> 00:56:52.880
<v Speaker 4>admitted knowing about the abuse. He declined to make any

953
00:56:52.920 --> 00:56:56.719
<v Speaker 4>further comment pending the outcome of an independent inquiry into

954
00:56:56.760 --> 00:57:01.960
<v Speaker 4>abuse at Catholic schools in seminaries worldwide. But he was

955
00:57:02.000 --> 00:57:04.440
<v Speaker 4>another one that had supposedly known of stuff and really

956
00:57:04.559 --> 00:57:08.559
<v Speaker 4>didn't say anything. Oh then you have Cormick Murphy O'Connor.

957
00:57:10.480 --> 00:57:13.320
<v Speaker 4>He admits shame over the nineteen eighty sex abuse case.

958
00:57:14.840 --> 00:57:17.280
<v Speaker 4>He basically said that he knew that there was a

959
00:57:18.039 --> 00:57:20.760
<v Speaker 4>Carlon Murphy. O'Connor told the festival crowd how as the

960
00:57:20.800 --> 00:57:25.360
<v Speaker 4>Bishop of Rundel and Brighton, he allowed Priest Michael Hill

961
00:57:25.400 --> 00:57:29.039
<v Speaker 4>to become a chaplain of Gatwick Airport, despite Hill confessing

962
00:57:29.480 --> 00:57:30.320
<v Speaker 4>to him that he had.

963
00:57:30.199 --> 00:57:31.719
<v Speaker 2>Abused young boys.

964
00:57:32.320 --> 00:57:32.880
<v Speaker 1>What the heck?

965
00:57:33.360 --> 00:57:35.960
<v Speaker 4>And because of that allowing him to do that, he

966
00:57:36.000 --> 00:57:40.199
<v Speaker 4>did eventually end up abusing a boy later on.

967
00:57:41.039 --> 00:57:42.880
<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of that, And then you watched that

968
00:57:42.920 --> 00:57:45.760
<v Speaker 3>movie Spotlight that was part of the all of the arrangements,

969
00:57:45.840 --> 00:57:47.559
<v Speaker 3>is that people got paid off and then were told

970
00:57:47.599 --> 00:57:48.199
<v Speaker 3>to shut up.

971
00:57:48.480 --> 00:57:49.440
<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's right.

972
00:57:49.920 --> 00:57:52.119
<v Speaker 3>You know they didn't know what was going on. Ye,

973
00:57:53.239 --> 00:57:55.159
<v Speaker 3>and then they moved people around too, Like it was

974
00:57:55.199 --> 00:57:57.920
<v Speaker 3>pretty dark. Like that's what Rats and a Girl was in.

975
00:57:58.119 --> 00:58:01.480
<v Speaker 3>I mean, that's allegedly what Ratson was involved in. It

976
00:58:01.559 --> 00:58:04.880
<v Speaker 3>is handling the cases and then moving instead of prosecuting

977
00:58:04.920 --> 00:58:08.519
<v Speaker 3>the priests, they were moving to another diocese and they

978
00:58:08.599 --> 00:58:09.039
<v Speaker 3>keep going.

979
00:58:09.119 --> 00:58:12.880
<v Speaker 1>It's graz Yeah, it seems to be a theme with that.

980
00:58:13.519 --> 00:58:15.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm sure this happened in the past as well,

981
00:58:15.840 --> 00:58:17.280
<v Speaker 1>but it seems to be a strong theme of that

982
00:58:17.440 --> 00:58:23.039
<v Speaker 1>generation of seminarians and priests, right, And maybe that there

983
00:58:23.079 --> 00:58:25.440
<v Speaker 1>is a correlation there with like the infiltration of the

984
00:58:25.440 --> 00:58:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Communists and Freemasonic values. I'm not saying, you know, all

985
00:58:31.159 --> 00:58:35.400
<v Speaker 1>Freemasons are sex abusers by any means, but like maybe

986
00:58:35.400 --> 00:58:40.079
<v Speaker 1>there's something there, right, Like it's a strong part of it.

987
00:58:40.360 --> 00:58:43.000
<v Speaker 3>I Mean, it's been dog doctrine. If you're true as

988
00:58:43.000 --> 00:58:45.440
<v Speaker 3>you're supposed to kind of break down the traditional family

989
00:58:46.000 --> 00:58:49.480
<v Speaker 3>and break down all these things that are supposedly, you know,

990
00:58:49.639 --> 00:58:52.480
<v Speaker 3>keeping the revolution going, like traditional families and all that stuff.

991
00:58:52.559 --> 00:58:57.079
<v Speaker 3>So traditional war yeah or thrown out the window. It

992
00:58:57.159 --> 00:59:01.320
<v Speaker 3>is anti Christian in anti tradition, there's no question communism.

993
00:59:01.920 --> 00:59:04.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. There is also evidence that a lot of even

994
00:59:05.199 --> 00:59:09.039
<v Speaker 1>homosexual men were put into the seminaries purposely as well,

995
00:59:09.920 --> 00:59:11.960
<v Speaker 1>So that's another notice fun.

996
00:59:12.480 --> 00:59:14.199
<v Speaker 2>Nothing I even want to add too.

997
00:59:14.400 --> 00:59:16.639
<v Speaker 4>I didn't include them just because there's you know, time

998
00:59:16.719 --> 00:59:18.559
<v Speaker 4>or whatever and it wasn't that important. But there was

999
00:59:18.599 --> 00:59:21.400
<v Speaker 4>at least three, if not for other people on that

1000
00:59:21.519 --> 00:59:23.679
<v Speaker 4>list that when I ran, you know, looked for this

1001
00:59:23.800 --> 00:59:26.800
<v Speaker 4>type of stuff, it was going on at a place

1002
00:59:26.840 --> 00:59:29.360
<v Speaker 4>that they were at, but they were admitting it and

1003
00:59:29.400 --> 00:59:32.519
<v Speaker 4>investigating in it. So now like all right, now they're

1004
00:59:32.559 --> 00:59:34.880
<v Speaker 4>not being known as covering it up, but like, what's

1005
00:59:34.920 --> 00:59:37.119
<v Speaker 4>the odds of six to seven of these dudes being

1006
00:59:37.159 --> 00:59:38.599
<v Speaker 4>at places that have this going on?

1007
00:59:39.360 --> 00:59:39.880
<v Speaker 1>You're right?

1008
00:59:39.960 --> 00:59:42.639
<v Speaker 4>I mean, is it that horribly? Is that horrific like

1009
00:59:42.719 --> 00:59:45.039
<v Speaker 4>all over the place? Or is there something here with

1010
00:59:45.079 --> 00:59:45.559
<v Speaker 4>these people?

1011
00:59:46.360 --> 00:59:46.480
<v Speaker 3>Right?

1012
00:59:46.719 --> 00:59:46.840
<v Speaker 1>Like?

1013
00:59:46.840 --> 00:59:49.719
<v Speaker 4>And don't I was contrary to by most people, I

1014
00:59:49.800 --> 00:59:53.639
<v Speaker 4>don't think it's as bad to where it's that prevalent.

1015
00:59:53.880 --> 00:59:56.039
<v Speaker 2>I do think it might actually be something with these people.

1016
00:59:57.119 --> 01:00:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Or is it too that they were it up

1017
01:00:01.119 --> 01:00:05.039
<v Speaker 1>and hushing it because they were also involved, you know,

1018
01:00:05.360 --> 01:00:10.199
<v Speaker 1>like it makes you wonder, like why are you going? Yeah, yeah, right,

1019
01:00:11.519 --> 01:00:13.760
<v Speaker 1>I just have a bit of info on like Saint

1020
01:00:13.800 --> 01:00:16.679
<v Speaker 1>Gallen itself, and like why that place? And then I

1021
01:00:16.679 --> 01:00:19.320
<v Speaker 1>think we're pretty much like wrapp going to wrap up

1022
01:00:19.320 --> 01:00:24.079
<v Speaker 1>after that. So there's an interest of time. But so

1023
01:00:24.159 --> 01:00:26.599
<v Speaker 1>why did the Saint Galla mafia pick the Swiss town

1024
01:00:26.639 --> 01:00:30.119
<v Speaker 1>of Saint Gallen to meet in the first place? And

1025
01:00:30.239 --> 01:00:32.519
<v Speaker 1>I think part of the reason might be because the

1026
01:00:32.559 --> 01:00:36.880
<v Speaker 1>city does have deep European Communist roots. Originally, it was

1027
01:00:36.920 --> 01:00:40.280
<v Speaker 1>the base of an Irish missionary named Saint Gallas in

1028
01:00:40.400 --> 01:00:43.280
<v Speaker 1>six twelve a d. And then a monastery was established

1029
01:00:43.280 --> 01:00:46.440
<v Speaker 1>there in seven twenty a d. However, in the beginning

1030
01:00:46.440 --> 01:00:49.760
<v Speaker 1>of the twentieth century, the region became associated with Satanic

1031
01:00:49.800 --> 01:00:53.519
<v Speaker 1>rituals and communism, so that may have something to do

1032
01:00:53.599 --> 01:00:53.920
<v Speaker 1>with it.

1033
01:00:54.599 --> 01:00:54.840
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

1034
01:00:54.880 --> 01:00:58.360
<v Speaker 1>Marxist leader of Vladimir Lenin himself did use Switzerland as

1035
01:00:58.400 --> 01:01:01.800
<v Speaker 1>his headquarters during his exi, which was around nineteen oh

1036
01:01:01.840 --> 01:01:05.679
<v Speaker 1>three to nineteen seventeen. Lenin of course inspired the Bolshevik

1037
01:01:05.719 --> 01:01:09.039
<v Speaker 1>Revolution by having his writings printed in Switzerland and smuggled

1038
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<v Speaker 1>into Russia. One person who organized Lenin's return to Russia

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<v Speaker 1>was a Swiss named Fritz Plattin, who was a freemason,

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<v Speaker 1>a communist, and a native of Saint Gallen, the town itself.

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<v Speaker 1>The rise of the Bolshevik Revolution was actually prophesized in

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01:01:25.800 --> 01:01:28.719
<v Speaker 1>another Marian apparition. So I mentioned that our lady of

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<v Speaker 1>Las Silette in the beginning of the show, and this

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<v Speaker 1>time in nineteen seventeen, our Lady of Fatima, that's a

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01:01:36.199 --> 01:01:40.400
<v Speaker 1>very famous one in Portugal, said Russia will spread her

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<v Speaker 1>airs throughout the world, causing wars and persecutions of the church.

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<v Speaker 1>The good will be martyred, the Holy Father will have

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<v Speaker 1>much to suffer, and various nations will be annihilated. And

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<v Speaker 1>she was referring to World War One when she said

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01:01:53.039 --> 01:01:56.280
<v Speaker 1>Russia will spread her heirs. And in nineteen seventeen, of course,

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01:01:56.360 --> 01:01:59.719
<v Speaker 1>we had the Bolshevik Revolution and World War One explode

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01:01:59.760 --> 01:02:06.480
<v Speaker 1>across Europe and nations were in fact annihilated. Fritz Platten,

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<v Speaker 1>the Swiss Saint Gallen man who helped Lenin. He also

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01:02:11.360 --> 01:02:15.039
<v Speaker 1>founded a publication called the Communist International as a way

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<v Speaker 1>to encourage the rise of communism worldwide, and he is

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<v Speaker 1>a major reason why Saint Gallen became a hotbed of

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01:02:21.199 --> 01:02:26.639
<v Speaker 1>communism in Switzerland and of course in Europe. There's another gentleman,

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<v Speaker 1>Hermann Joseph Metzger. He was head of the OTO. The

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<v Speaker 1>Ordo templear Orientis in Switzerland and he was born in

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01:02:37.480 --> 01:02:42.599
<v Speaker 1>nineteen nineteen, so that's another connection there. It's interesting also

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<v Speaker 1>infamous ocultist Alistair Crowley, which you're all familiar with, he

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01:02:46.719 --> 01:02:50.079
<v Speaker 1>had a connection to Saint Gallen. So apparently he was

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<v Speaker 1>an enthusiastic mountaineer and spent a lot of time in

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<v Speaker 1>Switzerland due to its mountainous region. But under the leadership

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<v Speaker 1>of Crowley, the OTO developed from European Freemasonry into the

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01:03:02.440 --> 01:03:07.599
<v Speaker 1>practice of Salima, and that unlike explicit Freemasonry, the OTO

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<v Speaker 1>includes a liturgical church known as the Gnostic Catholic Church,

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01:03:11.079 --> 01:03:14.639
<v Speaker 1>whose aim is to restore Christianity to its original status

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01:03:14.719 --> 01:03:19.480
<v Speaker 1>as a solar centric religion. The oldest OTO lodge is

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<v Speaker 1>in Switzerland and Gnostic Masses were practiced in the Saint

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<v Speaker 1>Gallen diocese that gentleman I refer to before Herman Joseph Metzger,

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<v Speaker 1>he did become patriarch of the Gnostic Catholic Church in

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01:03:30.960 --> 01:03:34.000
<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty and he would wear the white cassock and

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01:03:34.119 --> 01:03:37.360
<v Speaker 1>zuketo hat, just like the Catholic pope does. He was

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01:03:37.400 --> 01:03:41.039
<v Speaker 1>supposedly also head of his Order of the Illuminati and

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01:03:41.239 --> 01:03:46.199
<v Speaker 1>head of his Rosicrucian Order as well. Metzger and the

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<v Speaker 1>Swiss Swiss Oto claim to have received incense, wine, and

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01:03:50.599 --> 01:03:54.159
<v Speaker 1>eucharistic hosts directly from the Bishop of Saint Gallen, whose

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<v Speaker 1>name was Joseph Hasler in the nineteen sixties. So like,

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01:03:58.000 --> 01:04:02.559
<v Speaker 1>receiving the eucharistic host is a big like sacrilege. Like

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01:04:02.760 --> 01:04:05.679
<v Speaker 1>outside of the church, you should the priest should know

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01:04:05.800 --> 01:04:08.000
<v Speaker 1>not to be giving that out because it is considered

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01:04:08.000 --> 01:04:11.440
<v Speaker 1>the actual body of Christ once it's consecrated, So that

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01:04:11.599 --> 01:04:16.079
<v Speaker 1>is really interesting, unless he's giving unconsecrated ones to be

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01:04:16.159 --> 01:04:18.639
<v Speaker 1>used in the Gnostic Mass, which still for a Catholic

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01:04:18.679 --> 01:04:21.559
<v Speaker 1>priest to do is pretty is a weird flex, as

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01:04:21.559 --> 01:04:35.800
<v Speaker 1>the kids say, weird flex bro right, Yes, my favorite.

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<v Speaker 3>Is the skivity s givity ris s givity.

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<v Speaker 2>What I heard that.

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<v Speaker 3>Givity is almost it's s givity s givity is like

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01:04:46.960 --> 01:04:50.159
<v Speaker 3>a reference to a meme, but it's kind of like

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01:04:50.280 --> 01:04:51.519
<v Speaker 3>sketchy and weird.

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01:04:51.360 --> 01:04:55.039
<v Speaker 1>That skippity toilet is the original meme. Yeah, I have

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01:04:55.079 --> 01:04:57.639
<v Speaker 1>two kids that age that use all these terms, so

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01:04:58.000 --> 01:04:59.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm well versed.

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01:05:00.800 --> 01:05:05.679
<v Speaker 3>Pretty toats Cray Cray right, Like, yeah, I use it

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01:05:05.719 --> 01:05:06.519
<v Speaker 3>back at him, just to.

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01:05:08.079 --> 01:05:09.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh, yeah, it's so funny.

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, you use their terminology. We're at the hour mark.

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<v Speaker 3>Is there anything that you like to add before we

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<v Speaker 3>wrap it up?

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<v Speaker 4>I think the stuff that I had this blue stuff

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01:05:20.920 --> 01:05:22.599
<v Speaker 4>here left for me, I think we could skip that.

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01:05:22.679 --> 01:05:24.239
<v Speaker 2>So I mean, if there's anything after that, I.

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01:05:24.199 --> 01:05:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Think I guess, you know, I think we showed a

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01:05:28.000 --> 01:05:33.199
<v Speaker 1>pretty strong connection between the original Altavendida who the Saint

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01:05:33.239 --> 01:05:36.079
<v Speaker 1>Gallam mafia, and then those values like being you know,

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01:05:36.880 --> 01:05:39.679
<v Speaker 1>passed down into the church in the modern day. There's

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01:05:39.719 --> 01:05:45.800
<v Speaker 1>actually been really recent news stories like this week from

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01:05:46.239 --> 01:05:50.199
<v Speaker 1>from like you know, popular news outlets. One of them

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01:05:50.559 --> 01:05:54.320
<v Speaker 1>was actually yesterday, Pope Francis just appointed a woman as

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01:05:54.320 --> 01:05:58.679
<v Speaker 1>a Vatican prefect. Wow, that's new, so again making women

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01:05:58.719 --> 01:06:03.239
<v Speaker 1>in a higher position in the church. He also appointed

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01:06:03.440 --> 01:06:09.559
<v Speaker 1>Cardinal McElroy as Archbishop of Washington d C. So Washington

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01:06:09.639 --> 01:06:12.760
<v Speaker 1>DC is the former diocese of Ted McCarrick, who was

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01:06:12.800 --> 01:06:15.400
<v Speaker 1>the prolific abuser that we mentioned who was a member

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01:06:15.440 --> 01:06:20.639
<v Speaker 1>of the Saint Ala mafia. Mick Elroy was instrumental in

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01:06:20.679 --> 01:06:27.920
<v Speaker 1>covering up McCarrick's crimes m HM and also other abuses

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01:06:27.920 --> 01:06:30.280
<v Speaker 1>in the clergy, such as the case of this woman

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01:06:30.400 --> 01:06:36.119
<v Speaker 1>named Rachel Master Jacomo. Her story is wild. I had

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01:06:36.119 --> 01:06:38.800
<v Speaker 1>no idea and I just dove into it because of

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01:06:38.880 --> 01:06:41.800
<v Speaker 1>like the headline that just came out about McElroy and

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01:06:41.840 --> 01:06:42.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what is going on?

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01:06:44.360 --> 01:06:48.320
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it's the title you just mentioned. Trump critic

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01:06:48.360 --> 01:06:51.800
<v Speaker 3>to be Archbishop of Washington and appoints first being the

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01:06:51.880 --> 01:06:53.320
<v Speaker 3>leader of the Vatican Department.

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<v Speaker 1>Like we're seeing this play on in real time, even

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01:06:57.039 --> 01:06:59.639
<v Speaker 1>in my own kids' school. So my kids attend a

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01:06:59.639 --> 01:07:04.400
<v Speaker 1>publicly funded Catholic school here in Toronto, and there's so

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01:07:04.519 --> 01:07:09.159
<v Speaker 1>much push like for the LGBTQ agenda and like really

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01:07:09.239 --> 01:07:11.360
<v Speaker 1>like down playing the faith in the school like nothing.

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01:07:11.360 --> 01:07:14.920
<v Speaker 1>They don't learn anything about religion. I learned a little

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01:07:14.960 --> 01:07:17.679
<v Speaker 1>bit in my day, they learned. My kids learn like

1134
01:07:17.760 --> 01:07:20.440
<v Speaker 1>nothing now. Also the sacraments if you like, you know,

1135
01:07:20.480 --> 01:07:23.159
<v Speaker 1>want to make your first communion and stuff. That's a

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01:07:23.199 --> 01:07:25.199
<v Speaker 1>reason like why I sent them to Catholic school so

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01:07:25.280 --> 01:07:27.719
<v Speaker 1>they can learn that in school. Now they don't even

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01:07:27.800 --> 01:07:29.559
<v Speaker 1>learn it in school. We have to take them to

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01:07:29.599 --> 01:07:32.679
<v Speaker 1>the church to learn it. It's like they don't even

1140
01:07:33.119 --> 01:07:36.599
<v Speaker 1>include it in the curriculum at all. And then even

1141
01:07:36.719 --> 01:07:40.280
<v Speaker 1>during June, during Pride Month, they'll fly the Pride flag

1142
01:07:40.440 --> 01:07:45.159
<v Speaker 1>on the school flagpole. And it's like, I'm not I'm

1143
01:07:45.159 --> 01:07:49.199
<v Speaker 1>not homophobic whatsoever, But at the same time, it's like,

1144
01:07:49.480 --> 01:07:52.000
<v Speaker 1>why can't we just have the Canadian flag as the

1145
01:07:52.039 --> 01:07:52.719
<v Speaker 1>only flag?

1146
01:07:52.880 --> 01:07:53.480
<v Speaker 4>The flag.

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01:07:57.400 --> 01:07:59.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, in any church that flies that flag.

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01:07:59.599 --> 01:08:03.400
<v Speaker 1>It's for sure. And I even called the Archdiocese of

1149
01:08:03.400 --> 01:08:07.880
<v Speaker 1>Toronto asking like, why is this happening? After a year

1150
01:08:07.960 --> 01:08:09.280
<v Speaker 1>of putting up with it, I was like, you know what,

1151
01:08:09.320 --> 01:08:12.719
<v Speaker 1>I want an answer? I called. They couldn't know. No

1152
01:08:12.800 --> 01:08:16.800
<v Speaker 1>good answer is given, Like there's no direct answer given.

1153
01:08:16.840 --> 01:08:19.680
<v Speaker 1>And I'm thinking, Okay, now I understand why because these

1154
01:08:19.720 --> 01:08:22.960
<v Speaker 1>directives and these ideologies have been passed down from the

1155
01:08:23.000 --> 01:08:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Vatican for decades, centuries even perhaps, and it's from the

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01:08:27.960 --> 01:08:30.640
<v Speaker 1>top down, and there's not a whole lot you can

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01:08:30.640 --> 01:08:33.159
<v Speaker 1>do about it except talk about these things amongst your

1158
01:08:33.159 --> 01:08:34.079
<v Speaker 1>own family and friends.

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01:08:34.119 --> 01:08:35.720
<v Speaker 2>Really, yeah, And I.

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01:08:35.680 --> 01:08:38.640
<v Speaker 4>Do think, just just to like reiterate before about like

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01:08:38.880 --> 01:08:40.880
<v Speaker 4>showing how there's connections and how.

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01:08:40.800 --> 01:08:44.760
<v Speaker 2>Like you know, the Cardinals going one lineage.

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01:08:44.960 --> 01:08:47.800
<v Speaker 4>I mean there is there is like solid proof of freemasonry,

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01:08:48.079 --> 01:08:51.359
<v Speaker 4>you know ones being in Freemasons, and like, to.

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01:08:51.319 --> 01:08:52.079
<v Speaker 2>Me, it's like very weird.

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01:08:52.119 --> 01:08:53.760
<v Speaker 4>It's like between two of them, you can actually see

1167
01:08:53.760 --> 01:08:56.479
<v Speaker 4>how this is all happening. Like one of one does

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01:08:56.560 --> 01:08:58.279
<v Speaker 4>one and that goes down the line and then that.

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01:08:58.239 --> 01:09:00.960
<v Speaker 2>One creates a whole bunch of them. Yeah, you know,

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01:09:01.000 --> 01:09:03.039
<v Speaker 2>it's like to me, it's like it's it's a little bit.

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01:09:03.119 --> 01:09:05.239
<v Speaker 4>It's it's yeah, you have to go through a little bit,

1172
01:09:05.479 --> 01:09:07.720
<v Speaker 4>and you can actually find this stuff online and look

1173
01:09:07.760 --> 01:09:10.039
<v Speaker 4>at the lineages. You have to go through a little

1174
01:09:10.039 --> 01:09:11.520
<v Speaker 4>bit if you actually want to take the time and look,

1175
01:09:11.560 --> 01:09:13.800
<v Speaker 4>but like you will actually see how like what we're

1176
01:09:13.840 --> 01:09:15.960
<v Speaker 4>saying and like it does make sense where it's like

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01:09:16.000 --> 01:09:19.960
<v Speaker 4>that just looks like it was pre planed, you know

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01:09:20.079 --> 01:09:21.359
<v Speaker 4>to me.

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01:09:21.760 --> 01:09:23.920
<v Speaker 1>Stacking the deck with their homies.

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01:09:23.960 --> 01:09:27.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, crazy amazing. Where can people find yourself? You want

1181
01:09:27.319 --> 01:09:30.239
<v Speaker 3>to talk about cult rejects, Nick and Teresa.

1182
01:09:30.479 --> 01:09:33.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they cult rejects. That's on bit Shoot Rumble in

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01:09:33.640 --> 01:09:36.960
<v Speaker 4>YouTube and all major podcasts, and we also do have

1184
01:09:37.039 --> 01:09:40.399
<v Speaker 4>the Occult Research Institute dot org and that is a

1185
01:09:40.399 --> 01:09:42.479
<v Speaker 4>bunch of people, a bunch of different types of work.

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01:09:42.920 --> 01:09:45.359
<v Speaker 2>Definitely go check that out. And then Teresa, she has

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01:09:45.439 --> 01:09:46.760
<v Speaker 2>or I'm sure you can plug that as well if

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01:09:46.800 --> 01:09:47.039
<v Speaker 2>you want.

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01:09:47.640 --> 01:09:51.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have The Spiritual Gangsters as well with Nick

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01:09:51.279 --> 01:09:53.479
<v Speaker 1>and actually on that show we have dived into a

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01:09:53.520 --> 01:09:56.199
<v Speaker 1>couple of the Marian apparitions quite in depth. So if

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01:09:56.239 --> 01:09:59.920
<v Speaker 1>people want to find out more about those really interesting stuff.

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01:10:00.079 --> 01:10:02.840
<v Speaker 1>And I will just also mention the movie Conclave. I

1194
01:10:02.960 --> 01:10:07.159
<v Speaker 1>just watched it. This agenda plays out perfectly in that movie,

1195
01:10:07.159 --> 01:10:09.000
<v Speaker 1>and I actually think it was really well done. So

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01:10:09.239 --> 01:10:12.439
<v Speaker 1>if you're aware of what's going on, it will be

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01:10:12.479 --> 01:10:14.279
<v Speaker 1>a lot more interesting for you to watch.

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01:10:14.520 --> 01:10:16.199
<v Speaker 3>It's recent, right, here's the start.

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01:10:16.199 --> 01:10:18.720
<v Speaker 1>Very recent, the end of the year twenty twenty four.

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01:10:18.720 --> 01:10:21.760
<v Speaker 1>I came out Ray Findes, Ray find It's.

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01:10:21.600 --> 01:10:24.920
<v Speaker 3>Gotten good reviews. I've seen things I didn't. It's interesting.

1202
01:10:24.960 --> 01:10:26.399
<v Speaker 3>We did the show because I didn't see connection.

1203
01:10:26.439 --> 01:10:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Now I do, so condown, Oh you'll see You'll be like,

1204
01:10:28.960 --> 01:10:31.239
<v Speaker 1>oh I see it, I think yeah.

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01:10:31.640 --> 01:10:33.800
<v Speaker 3>Thank you Ray Jackson, thank you nice talking with you.

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01:10:33.840 --> 01:10:36.399
<v Speaker 3>Thanks so much for your time. Teresa, the Spiritual Gangsters

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01:10:36.920 --> 01:10:40.159
<v Speaker 3>and we talked about the Saint Gallon Mafia, so I'll

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<v Speaker 3>put links to all the shows. Thank you so much,
