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Speaker 1: Illad O TV. Here our number three live roun Pro Dreams.
Speaker 4: Hey, number three, we did it well made it. The
third hour is always my favorite. I don't know why.
I think you listen up a little bit. Oh me,
what am I uptight about? I don't know. People get
under your skin right.
Speaker 1: Now, though getting I means it. I just think it's
funny that you know there's whatever the narrative is, like,
once they get it, everybody gets it, and it's all
that you hear. Again. I'm not saying that drink might
even I'm not saying he's the top choice right now
for the ustry chop, but like to just continue to
hammer the guy when he's twenty eight and eight and
I know the record, Please don't send me the record
again against SEC teams with a winning record. I know
it better than I know my own child's names. At
this point. You got a lot of child I got
a lot of children, lots of children.
Speaker 4: Tough to get those names straight, right, I get that,
But like to say, as a bad coach, it's just.
Speaker 1: Infuriating to me. But whatever, we're Kennedy dealing him people here.
I don't know if you know that.
Speaker 4: So let me throw another name out at you.
Speaker 1: Nope, not doing it. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 1: You gotta say, and his record, don't give me his
record record? But what's his record? Against SEC opponents, will
winning record.
Speaker 4: I'll say the record in the NFL wasn't great.
Speaker 1: Oh, I know you're going, now, what about Brian Daboll.
Speaker 4: I know people saying he's a lot to go to
Penn State. I think that's as alma monitor. Is that right?
Or he's got to connect Yes State somehow?
Speaker 1: But I believe some.
Speaker 4: Guy that has been a very good, offensive minded guy
in the professional leagues. It was also, oh yeah, offensive
coordinator twenty seventeen Alabama that won a national championship. So
he has experience in college. Of course, he's got experience
at the highest level. So I don't know, I hadn't
heard that name. But if LSU Tigers, if we do
believe rightfully so that it's a top three job and
it's oh, if it's Ohio State, Georgia, LSU, then everybody else,
and he wants to come to the college ranks, then
why not Rochester is his alma mater. Okay, well there
you go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a letterman and a two year starter
in football as a what position in Brian dave ball play?
Come on deep snow all right? Jordan safety? What safety? Yep?
Speaker 4: At Rochester?
Speaker 1: Yeah, man he's only got no.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 1: He was a volunteer assistant William and Mary in nineteen
ninety seven. He was a grad assistant at Michigan State
in ninety eight ninety nine, and then he was in
the NFL until twenty seventeen. That one year at Alabama.
Then it was off. It's a coordinator. Yeah, it's been
a while since he's been in in college football. Just
ask the question. Yeah, no, okay, no again.
Speaker 4: Verge announces next LS your head coach, Brian day Ball.
Your feelings would be sad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not not enough experience in college. It would be nope, nope.
You know you gotta turned off too. It's gonna keep
doing it.
Speaker 4: Yep, no turn off itself.
Speaker 1: No, well they must have fixed that off. Okay, that's
for the auto off. I give it a.
Speaker 4: That one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I told you, I told you no. So no, okay, right, First,
do you know what record is against I do? I do.
I've been told my man brand is going to keep
me on top of it. Fell Brandon. What's up, brother?
How you doing?
Speaker 4: Hey?
Speaker 1: Living?
Speaker 4: Oh that's good? All right? Hum? Oh what about Belichick?
It's the greatest head coach of all time in the NFL. Yeah, no,
it might be available.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, uh again, Like what I'm looking for,
there's multiple people that could give it to you out there,
Brent Key, Kenny Dillingham. I think John Serrmol gives it
to you as well. Like somebody that's going to attack
this job with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. Somebody that
doesn't have to be convinced or beg to come here.
Somebody that is going to sprint here as soon as
they're offered the job. Somebody that is going to understand
you got to work your ass off at a place
like this or you'll get exposed incredibly fast. We have
all seen that you have to have a mindset of
being tough. You have to have a scheme of being tough.
You have to understand that every week you're going to
get the other team's very best. You have to understand
that you are somebody that people want to try to
hunt because you've been a standard for a long time,
for last twenty five years, right, you have to understand
all of those things. You got to understand Louisiana. And
I'm not talking about being from here. I don't care
if you went here. I don't care if you're from Louisiana.
But you have to understand Louisiana. You do, and I
was very hopeful that Brian Kelly did because some of
the things he said about the entire state when he
got here, I don't think by the end of it
he did. Now Coacho actually did understand it, because well,
Coacho was from here. Like I remember having so many
conversations with Coacho off the record, one on one about
like attacking North Louisiana, and it can't just be South Louisiana.
It's got to be the entire state. It's got to
be every corner of Louisiana. They remember those conversations and
like that is that's very factual, Like you do have
to attack the entire state. You have to understand the
entire state. The entire state's different. We all know that.
You'll tell me all the time how different it is.
But you have to understand that. You got to understand that.
You can't, you know, not recruit Shreveport, you can't not
recruit Monroe, you can't not recruit Lafayette, Lake Charles. It
can't just be one area. It's got to be the
entire state. Because there's talent in this entire state. Like
we can make all NFL teams from Shreveport, we can
make all NFL teams from Baton Rouge, from New Orleans,
from Lafayette, and they'd be pretty damn competitive because that's
what this state is. So like, that's what I want
from the next head coach. I really don't even it's
not even necessarily the analytics of this stat and that stat.
It's obviously if you're up for the LSU job, you've
got the resume. I just need to you. You got
to fit like those things because you were lacking in
those things. You need those things. That's what you have
to have to be successful here. M h.
Speaker 4: And it's just a legit, genuine attitude, genuine personality, genuine
love for being a coach and wherever you are. And
you know, I said it, you know, multiple weeks ago.
It's like, be careful of the slick talkers. The smooth
talking coaches just doesn't mean doesn't mean being a good talker,
and a smooth talker is different to me. The smooth talker.
Some of that you can't really tell put your finger
on if they're like super genuine or not. But I
think all the people that we continuously talk about that
are up on that list are who they are. They
are very genuine people. Whether it's Lane, whether it's Dyli
and Ham, whether there's Drink, whether it's Brent Key. Certainly
some are all over down a two lane, like Baker,
Colvin Sheppard, like all these people that we continue to
talk about. You can tell who that person is. And
I think that and that's that's to me what a
fit is. It's like that person. You know exactly who
that person is. You know that when he says something,
he means it. And that's what I'm looking for because
I don't think we had that for a couple of years.
That's what that's And we don't need to keep like
beating the debt horse on this, so we don't need
to bring any of that stuff back and talk in
depth about it. But like I think that's all we want.
I think it'd be refreshing to have somebody like you
know where you stand. A player knows where they stand,
a coach knows where they stand with that head coach,
and certainly somebody that can handle it when their feet
is put to the fire because certainly here at LSU
there are high expectations and there's high reward if you
had to have success. So I don't know, it's all speculation, buddy, Yeah, Cody.
Speaker 1: Cody asked a question Dillingham and Key or both at
their homeschools, would they really run here? That's what you
have to find out. So you have to find out.
That's the whole point.
Speaker 4: Kiffin's not running here.
Speaker 1: If you exactly if you talk to them, right, you
got to see where they're at and what this job
would mean to them. That's part of the process. Now
Brent's a little bit different because he played at Georgia Tech, right,
So like that's a difference from playing somewhere. We talked
about that yesterday, playing somewhere and just going to school somewhere.
So that's what you have to find out. Like, Okay,
you have that meeting, you set it up. When you're
having those discussions, you've got to see where their mindset is. Again,
Like that's Brahms at Louisville where he played, Like we
talked about it, like all these candidates that feel like
they would fit the job, well, they played somewhere and
look a lot of times, you know you got somebody
that played somewhere they might not be coaching at where
they played. We talked about that with summer all like
is some are all waiting Is Kentucky going to come open?
Are they going to move on from Mark Stoops? And
if they do, is that what John Somemrrol's waiting on.
He canceled his deal with Florida yesterday. We don't know that.
I know it means something, But that's what you have
to find out when you're having those meetings, when you're
having those discussions, if you get on a plane and
you go to timpe Arizona, if you go to Atlanta, Georgia,
Like that's what you have to find out.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And you make a good point when you say,
like you want somebody that's gonna run here, They're not
going to think about it, They're not going to do it.
Like a little bit unrealistic this world. You can't really
do that. Like I'm saying, like Lane's certainly not running here.
He's kind of playing the field, which he should be,
but like he shouldn't be, Like, if you think about it,
Lane shouldn't be making decision right now anyway. He should
be focused on his team that's fighting for a national
championship right now, fighting for an SEC championship right now.
Speaker 1: And that's what I said at the other day.
Speaker 4: Like I think people thought I was crazy, But it's like,
do you want a coach that's gonna leave his team
high and dry in the middle of the season that's
playing for a national championship. I don't know, Like what
message does that send to everybody else. It's like we
talked about, like we talked about today, we get the
example of like, was it you Jordan? I think Jordan
gave the example. It's like, you know, you date a
girl that just cheated on her boyfriend, but you think
you're gonna you think it's you're not gonna cheat on you.
I don't know, it's just not a great Like if
he leaves his team, it's going to be an unprecedented
situation like something like this. I'm sure somebody can fact
check me in like they're gonna prove me wrong. But
I don't remember something like this ever happening. You leave
your team that's in a national championship hunt to go
to another team to maybe have the opportunity to be
in a national championship hunt.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean not to the same effect because Ole
Miss is in the playoff right now. Notre Dame was
with an opportunity to make the playoff. THO one, Ryan
Kelly came here like mathematically, Notre Dame still had a
chance to make the playoff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm not talking about mathematically.
Speaker 1: This isn't like well, I mean it wasn't crazy. I
mean they were a couple of spots away.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, Okay, I guess that's similar. It didn't work out.
So to my point, do you want that type of
coach it's going to leave their team? I don't know.
Now maybe the answer is yes. Maybe you're like, well,
where the We're the baddest be in town. No one's
gonna cheat on us.
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Dad energy.
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Speaker 1: You got to get the book.
Speaker 4: Loot Yo Chances Welcome back. No, I didn't leave you
welcome back to got it?
Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh, Unfortunately, we're not gonna be able to do
munchies today because we don't have the normal phone that
we use to bluetooth through the board that we use.
I believe that is in Nashville with a girl or Landra.
So not gonna be able to do mounchies today. Maybe
we can do it tomorrow.
Speaker 4: It's a special special phone that does it too, so
it's hard to get two of those. It's it's I
was like at first, I was like, no, it's not.
It's made by Apple. It's called an iPhone with a
lower capital P.
Speaker 1: So we apologize for that. I don't like that. I
don't like not having that ability. We've done that every week.
But maybe we can get that done tomorrow.
Speaker 4: It's like the one thing I look forward to, man,
I mean there's lots of things. I take that wow,
lots of things something wow. Do you know what I
don't look forward to anymore? Talking head coaches?
Speaker 1: Why you don't like getting the full breakdown of profiles?
Speaker 4: Because speculation's fun.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you, let me ask you this is
it going to be somebody that like? So we're talking
about kind of these Core four or five somebody else.
And we always talk about like the betting odds always
being wrong, and like, you know, Kenny Dillingham has become
in vogue because it's the latest name that's been the
top betting odds and he's a hell of football coach
thirty five years old. We've laid it out what he's
done with quarterbacks, what I think he could do here,
and he's quickly becoming my top choice I think to
be the next head coach.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 1: But the last twelve high profile head coaching hires, it
feels like they've all been somebody's kind of been off
the board of the betting odds. I mean, James Franklin
to Virginia Tech is like one of the few times
where it's like as soon as it kind of was
talking about the first time, is like, oh yeah, that
makes all of the sense, right, because like James Franklin's
always dominated Virginia in recruiting half as Penn State, you
know players, it felt like we're from Virginia, He's already
in all those things. Very few times is like you
say the one name and then the one name ends
up being the person.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but there's been so much noise around Lane Kiffin.
It feels like everybody else is a dark horse. Everybody
else is like that could be that person that comes
out of nowhere because the noise over one person, like
to me, I don't feel like we've talked about dialing
him enough until the news.
Speaker 1: About Sam Levitt broke.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we haven't talked about you know, we've talked about
like the brat Keys and the Broms because of you know,
them being a good head coach and good you know,
certain metrics that you look for, I guess, but but
we hadn't talked about them because they're coaching at the
place they played, and they're loyal to and all these
different things. But like, this has all the makings of
just being someone out of the out of the blue,
like a like a Mickey Loomis first round draft pick,
like somebody you're like, huh, I go.
Speaker 1: I will never ever, ever, ever ever forget. It was
like maybe my first year at the station we were
doing and we had just gotten here, we're doing a
draft party. I don't even I don't even remember where
it was, but they paired me and Handy together for like,
cause we know everybody does like two hours here, two hours,
two hours. And so it was me and Handy and
we had the same pick and they make a trade
and Hanny like sits up in his chair. He starts
like tapping me. He's so excited. Saints made a trade, Rachel,
and they're like Mark's dabbingport ed rusher utsa. And the
look on that man's face, the look I will literally
never in my life forget.
Speaker 4: Oh that's so good.
Speaker 1: I will never forget to look at it.
Speaker 4: It's like excited.
Speaker 1: You know, it was not it wasn't you for it,
It was not that so m.
Speaker 4: Well, that's how we felt every year, I felt, Philip,
and I say we. I've only been a Saints fan
for about three months now, how's that going. Well, I
don't know if I'm a fan anymore.
Speaker 1: Because they're playing back to your front runner. Mm hmmm.
Speaker 4: No, I just like I see the pain and misery
that Saints fans have. I don't know if I want
any part of it or not. I just make a
decision right now, so this I could feel different. Next tumment, Yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Told you when you started this, like you don't have
to be a fan. Like of the teams were about
like you can. Like I grew up Saints fan for sure,
like you know Von Dunbar and Craig Hayward.
Speaker 4: But I wanted to buy in to the people that
are listening to want. I wanted to Tolliver.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Billy Joe Tolliver, Billy Joe.
Speaker 4: I got serious, fomo. You know, I don't want to
miss out with our the people that are great listeners,
the people of Louisiana.
Speaker 1: I don't want to miss out on an amazing rebuild.
Speaker 4: In a run. I want to be part of it.
But then in the same token, I'm also joining the misery.
So I don't know. It's always darkest before the dawn fluid. True,
winter is coming, No, it's already.
Speaker 1: Here, and buddy, we're not in winter right now?
Speaker 4: Is coming?
Speaker 1: Yeah? It goes from Game of Thrones to olof Anything
about the summer, Yeah, yeah, famously. So just gotta trust
Mickey that's it. Just got to trust Mickey Limis to
make the right decision.
Speaker 4: Gil said he's one of the best in the league,
longest tenured for sure for a reason. M h there's
a reason why you're not usually a long tenured gem.
Speaker 1: True, he's basically the owner though, So to get back
to your favorite subject though, coaching searches. So Desmond Howard
put out a video on social media saying, don't be
surprised if the Texas job becomes open, because Steve Sarkisian
would you know, go elsewhere. And a lot of people
believe he'd be back in the NFL or he's been
an offensive coordinator before and maybe he would take one
of the NFL jobs, and Sarkisian was not a fan
of that. He had a rebuttal where he just I mean,
he came out like guns are blazing and was just
like if you got any question about me and where
I'm at, and blah blah, like hey, you come speak
to me. Chryst o' connie, our athletic director Christale Connie
actually quote tweeted the Desmond Howard tweet and said, this
is news to me. Thanks for the insight about Steve Sarkisian.
So he has tried to shut down all of the
you know, potential NFL rumors for him. I believe, like
I don't know, if you said, all the clowns or
bozos out there with the information, I don't know where
they get it. But Steve Sarkisian says he's staying put
in Texas because if well, if he didn't, if that is,
you know, something where he's trying to have a smoke,
Like if that job comes open, My god, you imagine
having Texas, LSU, Florida, Auburn, Penn State all open at
the same time.
Speaker 4: Lane's ex wife and kids will be on another plane.
Speaker 1: You think they'll give like their data birth and their socials. Again,
who always on the plane tail numbers?
Speaker 4: My goodness, they better boost up that server that runs
that flight tracking web site. Can't crash again. We got
coach like coaching searchers are just starting to heat up.
What if it's on the flight track and left in
this season?
Speaker 1: What if it's John sumrang to what you don't have
like to tell us he wouldn't be on a flight.
I wouldn't think. Yeah, just drive, I mean it's like
an hour. Yeah, that's the real question. If they go
talk to John Someraw, would they still get on a plane.
Speaker 4: I think you go down there? Yeah for sure, Yeah,
you just go down there. Just you get in the car. Hey,
we'll send a bus for you. John, go down to
the interstate. We'll send you a sprinter van.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you take a nice sprinter van. You
don't just take your car. Yeah, you get a driver
with a bathroom. Minute, it's one of the RV types,
be it restroom. There's not a bathroom there in a
water closet. So that way, like the flight Tracker website
wouldn't even know.
Speaker 4: Still, not a lot of people talking about Blake. We
just stopped talking about Kevin Shephard. Go ahead, well, I
think they would both be really good options.
Speaker 1: Look, I the two names that you just said, I
am never going to say they can't do something, no doubt.
I think our listeners know how we feel about those two.
I say to young men because I'm old, Yeah, but
you know they're they're full grown adults, adults like we
feel strongly about both those guys. And so that's that's
another thing that you really have to take into account.
What do you value? Are you valuing the resume? Are
you valuing what you're looking for? Because those can be
two different things. Now, if you find somebody with both,
that's utopia. That's what you try to get to. It
doesn't always happen in coaching surges. Sometimes you do have
to take a chance. Sometimes you do have to go
out on a limb a little bit, right, You got
to get into some murky water, if you will. So
that like the committee that's put together, like that's what
they have to in my opinion, established from the very
get go. What are we looking for? What are we
trying to get the guy with the resume? And look,
you just had a guy with a pretty good one.
M Are we trying to get a guy?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 1: We're trying to like literally find like the the one
person that exists that can give us both? Are we
looking for somebody that has incredible potential that fits everything
that we need and checks every box that we have here?
Like those are like that has to be defined in
my opinion, like from the very get go, and then
it look if you have to alter off of that,
then you make an audible off of that.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And like always there's a counter argument to everything.
There is a devil's advocate to every argument or person
you're gonna have, Like you keep getting hit with a
stat on drink. What what's the stat to say it?
You got to memorize the one with who drink?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and sixteen against SEC teams with over five hundred
record I believe.
Speaker 4: Is in sixteen. Yeah, okay, Elaine Kiffen. So someone said
it in the chat early. I don't remember who I apologized,
but I just like I just looked it up again
to confirmix. I was like Welane Kiffin's eleven and twenty
four versus top twenty five opponents. Like so you can,
you can give all the stats you want. There's coaches
with good records as coaches, you know, some years are good,
some years are bad. Like you got to look at
the overall body of work and their game management.
Speaker 1: There.
Speaker 4: They're whether the way they lead a group of men,
what they've done at a particular school. And I don't
think we would look at Eli or Lane Kiffen to
say they hadn't been successful just because they got these
losing records against a certain type of opponent. And you
can hand pick, you can cheerry pick stats and different
guys against top five. I mean, we've we've given the status.
Speaker 1: I bet Brian Kellys was really good.
Speaker 4: I bet Brian Kelly is incredible, and we've given this
that about Like you know, Jeff Brahm at Purdue of Louisville,
I think is four and one versus top five opponents.
Speaker 1: Really good against top five opponents and always loses to
an underring team.
Speaker 4: So instead of saying like the good part, you could
be like, well he's you know, well he's three and
twenty five against top twenty five and that's not out
of the top five or whatever. I don't know. You
can cherry pick stuff all you want. Yeah, it's all
about finding personality. It's all about finding a genuine person,
someone that can lead a room, someone that can attract
and attract recruits, not only in the state of Louisiana,
but the people that are already wearing an LSU helmet.
It's about bringing excitement, and certainly the guys that we're
all talking about can do it, but certainly Blake Baker
and Kevin Sheppard could do that part as well. Now
that being a head coach, they've never done it before,
so that's a big question mark. So I understand the
fan that's like LSU is a top job in the country.
Speaker 1: We deserve somebody with that experience.
Speaker 4: I get that, And but that's not to say that
if you are good at the process of finding a coach,
it's like being a recruiter, like if you can find
that person that you believe can do the job of
head coach even though he doesn't have that head coaching experience.
If you know, be on a shadow of a doubt
that a guy like Blake Baker, that a guy like
Kevin Sheppard can step in and solidify one side of
the team offense or defense, and put good people around
you and lead men and get the best out of
a human being. Every single week when a guy's not
feeling great, can you still get the best out of them?
Can you lead a group from a group full of people?
Can you talk to boosters? And can you get money
from all people from around the state and alumni that
want to come back?
Speaker 1: Can you get that money? Can you secure all the
people around you?
Speaker 4: Like, there's a lot to navigate, But if you believe
that that's that guy and you're hiring, and if you're
verge or if you're the committee or whatever, and you
feel strongly about somebody that's not currently a head coach,
I'm all in with that. Yeah. I can get behind that.
If you give me good reasons why you make that decision. Yep,
I am right there with you.
Speaker 1: I think that you do have to lay out every plan,
you've had time, you've had extra time, you have to
lay it all out. And then as a committee five
six members, however many people are in that room, you
have got to figure out here is what we're looking for.
And when you start talking about people, how many of
these boxes do they check? How many do we still
have question marks about?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 1: And that's why I do really really appreciate the fact
that you have an athletic director that does understand this
place probably as well as anybody. Right. And I know
this is Verge his first time to be an athletic director,
but in this instance, in this you know coaching hire.
The man played for Lawship football. He's from Louisiana, he's
been for thirty years in different capacity. You don't think
that Vergon knows what a successful LSU football coach looks like.
Like he seemed good, he seemed bad, He's seen everywhere
in between. So like with Verge leading it, and then
you have a committee and you've got other you know,
guys that have played LSU football that are own this committee.
Once you define it, because again I think he's a
great person to define what it is, then then you
attack it with like your full force. Yeah, but I
think defining what you're looking for first is very.
Speaker 4: Important in anything in life, whether you're hiring a head
coach or you're hiring an accountant, you're hiring a lot like
whatever it is, defining what you're looking for is priority
number one. So if they can do that, and like
you said, thank god for Verge. I mean, how many
people in the with the climate of what was happening
politically and around the LSU, you know, firing and Brian Kelly,
the fire Scott Wood where the governor comments like what
decent athletic director was choosing to come to LSU outside
of this program? So thank god we had a very capable, smart,
loyal person in our own in our own backyard right
here to take that job. So let's just you know,
we're all cheering for Verge, we're all cheering for the committee.
I hope they get it right. So nobody knows what's
all speculation so we can. We could keep beating a
dead horse over everything, and it's fun to do. It's
fun to speculate, it's fun to guess, but it's just
like guessing the weather right now.
Speaker 1: So yeah, uh, inside the Chad Joe said, yall said
the same thing about Dave Randa. Now look at him.
I don't know if you're talking to us with the chat,
I hadn't really been able to keep up.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: Look, I love Dave. I think Dave's a great human
being and he's a very very good defensive play caller.
Day's personality and being a head coach was always something
that was questioned. Yep, Dave and Blake don't have the
same personality. Dave and Kelvin don't have the same personality
to say the least. Yep. Like when I talked to
Dave Randa, like I interviewed him like three four weeks ago,
and every time I do, I'm like, man, I don't
know what he just said. It sounded really smart. I
don't really I don't follow like what he's just said.
It sounds like it sound a good I don't really know. Uh,
just a very deep thinker. And and here's.
Speaker 4: The deal, Like with that different personality, Like you got
to be a little bit more, you got to be
a little bit more outgoing, you got to be a
little bit more excited. And you can't fake energy. You
can't fake authentic AUTHENTICSM authenticism authenticism. Yep, then we nailed
it third times a charm. You can't fake all that.
Speaker 1: I know. You can't fake being authentic. That's what I'm saying,
all right.
Speaker 4: So like Dave, like he would have authy yeah, I think,
but I think we were saying it right.
Speaker 1: Don't group that.
Speaker 4: You can't fake that stuff, right, So, like Dave would
always like, you have to be a little bit more energetic.
Speaker 1: Well, like Blake's got that.
Speaker 4: He might have even had like too much of it,
like doing push up and stuff because he dropped like
interception attempts on the sideline during priory.
Speaker 1: He might have to like pull a little bit.
Speaker 4: He might have to pull all that, but it's easier
to pull back on that than have to like go
out there and fake energy. Well, he's got that in spades. Authenticism,
Oh my god, you're you are.
Speaker 1: I'm about to pull a bit Madison on you.
Speaker 4: If you don't start, I think authenticism's right, that's not
as authenticity. I won't look it up.
Speaker 1: Please do We are all now dumber for here?
Speaker 4: It's a word. Excuse me, authenticism, excuse me for known
English language perfectly.
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Speaker 3: Com from the locker room to the airwaves. It's off
the bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, Mat gohad, what said you talking about? All right?
I was, yeah, go ahead, about authenticism being a real word.
Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 4: Yeah. It is a belief in authenticity, okay, the belief
in the superiority of the authentic over the inauthentic, or
a commitment to being true to one's own values, beliefs
and personality. Authenticism.
Speaker 1: It's a great word.
Speaker 4: And I tried to type it in the chat autocorrect
did try to change it, but Google confirms it's a word.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 4: I also said authenticism, don't believe that one's a word.
Let's check that one out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, as many as you tried to say to
get there, like you eventually said a word.
Speaker 4: I'm sure that like that scene in uh find an
Emao where the teachers like, yeah, don't hurt yourself, kid, Yeah,
I hurt my brain a little bit. But if you
if you come to the show to get a better
grasp of the English language, probably not the show for you.
Go check out another pie yes or something. After the show,
of course, So sorry, but not sorry. Authenticism. Use it.
It's your SAT vocabulary word of the day. Did you
see the story about Ceedee Lamb.
Speaker 1: I did not.
Speaker 4: Well Monday morning. Yeah, they played Monday night. They were
in Las Vegas, Las Vegas, famously known for partying. He
was saying throwing up I think in the lobby in
the morning of their game on Monday night. I don't
know if he had a stomach bug at all, not sure.
So we kind of asked a question yesterday. I think
Ceedee Lamb and George Pickens both had to sit on
the bench the entire first drive of the game.
Speaker 1: So what real discipline that is?
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll show you. Well, that's what Like that goes
to show you that life isn't fair. Sometimes people used
to get mad, like when they were like they were
on the practice squad or like a special team or
something like that, if you missed a meeting or you're
late to a meeting, like sometimes you get cut for that.
Sometimes you get real disciplined. Well, if you're starting quarterback
or somebody or a star player is late. For me,
it's just like hey, man, try to show up on
time and then you know, people are like, that's not fair,
that's not fire. Well, yeah, of course it's not fair,
Like you're not that guy. Sorry, be better. You can
be late to a meeting every now and then, well
you can get you can get a touch of Vegas
and kind of maybe go out and miss a curfew,
be late, maybe throw up in the lobby the morning
of your game, Monday night football game, because heck, you
got you know, eleven hours, ten hours to shake it off,
and then you can go out and you know, catch
for eighty yards in the game, fis and catch for
a hundred and.
Speaker 1: Fifty game, so they dominated the game. So it's kind
of like you maybe go out the Thursday before the
Florida game, had a pretty good day that day, right,
So right, maybe we're running something here.
Speaker 4: I had a buddy of mine that was a same
buddy I talked about, who's a fourth rounder, who was
you know, ten eleven year player, play five or six
Pro Bowls whatever, all pro right guard. And we would
go out every Friday night up to a local establishment
and you know, have some do sekis, have a couple
of adult bevies. Yeah, sometimes had more than more than
most people should.
Speaker 1: So it happens.
Speaker 4: Okay, it happens every now and then, and he would
always have a good game. And then we didn't go
out one time the second year and in the second year,
maybe it was a third year playing, it was the
first time we never did it on Friday, and.
Speaker 1: He gave up his first second of his career. Yeah,
and he's like, well, not doing that again. Yeah, making
sure beers get deleted.
Speaker 4: Yeah, doing lots of them.
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny that that's a football mindset, like
CD Lamb if he was out in Vegas whatever, Like
we're grown adults that still have bedcheck. On every road
game that we were ever on, we have bet check.
Like when I tell my MLB NBA friends that, like
when I was playing, they're like wait a minute, what right,
They're like yeah, wait, as professionals, you all have bedcheck,
like people come and check your rooms. Like yeah, yeah,
Like it's not that's not no. I was like, you
don't have that baseball They're like no, no, Like what
They're like, get out of the city. We do whatever
we want. We get ourselves to the game and we
play and then we do whatever we want. Tom Like wait, what,
Like you don't have to be somewhere. Like we had
security outside of every hotel, like you couldn't leave and
they literally knock on your door and check this, make
sure as a thirty year old grown man, that you're
in for the night. Yeah. No, we don't have anything
like that, Matt. I don't even think they had that.
Like in college baseball, Yeah, that's wild.
Speaker 4: Were you ever on a team that got they gave
you in the team dining the night before game, they
had beers there for you. Yes, yeah, we had a couple. Yeah,
we could. We could put down a couple. It was
good antioxidants.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't like if we were if we were
on the road and we took a lot of obviously
long chips because we were on the West coast, if
we went anywhere that was like you know we go
in fron than the Friday night snack, we would.
Speaker 4: Yeaheah, well we would go and we would do. So
you go on an away game and you're free until
like eight or nine at night, so you get there,
you get there at three, four, whatever in the afternoon,
kind of depend on the length of the flight. And
so we would always go the linemen and quarterbacks, right
so I'll go to dinner and that's where you know,
you would famously go get a big steak dinner and
you play like credit card roulette, so like you know,
or rookies would get stuck with a huge bill or whatever.
It's usually the night before and it's just it's not
a big deal. It's like you go and you know what,
are a couple of bottles of wine, You enjoy yourself
or whatever, and then you go play a game the
next day.
Speaker 1: It's a little bit different. I mean, you're you're you're
grown men at that point. You see, we took a
lot of two day trips, and so we always had
Friday night to go, oh yeah, enjoy it a little
bit more, yeah than a Saturday. Sure, But in the
middle of the.
Speaker 4: You're playing baseball players, like if you're a pitcher or
something like I knew a lot of pitchers or knew
of a lot of pitchers that they would have condos
and the cities that were in there is a a division.
Yeah yeah, like in therefore, the teams they played a lot,
they'd have condos in the downtown of that area. Because
they're pictures, they're they're working like one, hey, yeah, three
game series or whatever. So they have their own condos
at like three or four different cities. Yeah, we had
a picture for the Padres that had had the same thing.
He had one in he had one in Denver, one
in San Francisco. I don't think he had one in Arizona,
but he had one in those two cities, right, Like
he had a place and he's like, yeah, I mean
I'm there all the time, but I don't ever do
anything like chances are like I'm on a pitch in
the series.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm also thirty, you know, true true bed check.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Can you imagine having to like check forty two
year old or forty one year old Aaron Rodgers?
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Speaker 4: I know I'm twenty eight checking on you. You're alone in there,
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If you can play any marching band instrument, well, what would.
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Speaker 4: I would definitely be on the drum line. I like
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like he carried over his shoulder. I don't even know
if LSU does that one has like the different ones.
I remember that one, but that was sweet. I always
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Because say anything, because he's still number two on the list,
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Lane Kiffin's plus three hundred right now. No, he has
not remember that one day that Saban was two to one. Yep,
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Speaker 1: Yeah again, I would take the betting odds with grand salt.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
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Hit me up with some cake. Hit me up with
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