Speaker 1: Welcome to the Projection Booth and the Culture Cast and
Speaker 1: Midnight Viewing. We're doing it all, all three of our shows.
Speaker 1: I am your host, Mike White. Joining me is my
Speaker 1: other host, Chris Statue.
Speaker 2: Nice fuck model.
Speaker 1: Also joining us is my other host father alone.
Speaker 3: Beetlejuice.
Speaker 1: Okay, whatever, Oh man, there were some little kids that
Speaker 1: were getting freaked out at the movie theater. I saw
Speaker 1: this movie yet, don't.
Speaker 2: See it a third time. Amazing.
Speaker 1: Why why are you worried about this somewhat sarcastic demon
Speaker 1: is gonna show up and do stuff I don't know.
Speaker 2: We are sweet love to you.
Speaker 1: Yes, we are back thirty six years after the original.
Speaker 1: We're back with Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice, and you know what that
Speaker 1: third one is going to be called, And you know
Speaker 1: they're probably gonna make a third one because this has
Speaker 1: had a pretty good box office opening. We're back with
Speaker 1: the sequel to Beetlejuice. It's not Beetlejuice Goes Hawaii or
Speaker 1: some of the other Beetle Juice movies that had been
Speaker 1: kicked around over the years. It's not even a feature
Speaker 1: version of the cartoon. Because they had a cartoon of this.
Speaker 2: It was amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, watch it on Saturday mornings. Yeah, we are back
Speaker 1: with some of the cast of the original film. We'll
Speaker 1: definitely be talking about that. We have a family tragedy
Speaker 1: that starts this off, and we are introduced to Well.
Speaker 1: It's kind of a combination of the Wednesday Show mixed
Speaker 1: with the original Beetlejuice. We will be spoiling this movie
Speaker 1: as we talk about it, though, I don't think there's
Speaker 1: a whole lot you can spoil with this one unless
Speaker 1: you are a huge Richard Harris fan. So we'll get there.
Speaker 1: Trust me. When you're all driving carpool and banging your
Speaker 1: pilates instructors to fill the empty voids in your life,
Speaker 1: we'll see who gets the last laugh. My mom grew
Speaker 1: up here.
Speaker 2: That old house ihow with the ghost house is your mom,
Speaker 2: Lydia Diets. Unfortunately, she's a legend.
Speaker 1: The living the dead. Can they coexist?
Speaker 4: Chance?
Speaker 1: Ghosts aren't real. Only global people believe that kind of crowd.
Speaker 2: I can't believe I'm doing this. Beetle Juice, Beetle Juice,
Speaker 2: Beetle Juice.
Speaker 1: I mean to help me save my daughter, But how
Speaker 1: do I know that you're gonna keep your word.
Speaker 4: I swear my dead mother.
Speaker 5: Kay.
Speaker 4: Well you and the boys stand guard. Nobody gets through.
Speaker 4: That's cool, honey, recognize that post, servicing that hip before
Speaker 4: my life or after life.
Speaker 2: Yes, are you doing this?
Speaker 4: Beetle juice, beetle juice, beetle.
Speaker 1: I'm needed upstairs about down the floor?
Speaker 4: Spill your guys.
Speaker 1: Who wants to go first? All right, I will.
Speaker 4: See.
Speaker 1: I'm willing to do the work. Good thing for my dream.
Speaker 4: Really mortnamor maitarial.
Speaker 1: In front of the unknown, conquering your fears. There's nothing harder.
Speaker 2: All right? What the.
Speaker 4: Thank you all for coming to this special occasion. But
Speaker 4: right now, with like a little privacy.
Speaker 1: Chris, what did you think of Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice? And did
Speaker 1: you see this theatrically? And if so, what was your experience, like, sir,
Speaker 1: with the original one?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, the new one?
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh yeah, I saw the new one in theaters.
Speaker 5: It was Look, you know, I went to Los Angeles
Speaker 5: earlier in the year and I went to Universal Studios
Speaker 5: and they had as I was walking out the door,
Speaker 5: they had a guy addressed up like beetlejuice.
Speaker 2: You know, you'll get your picture with Beetlejuice.
Speaker 5: Look, I find the original Beatle Juice probably to be
Speaker 5: my favorite Tim Burton movie. I would say it's probably
Speaker 5: in my top ten or fifteen movies. I think the
Speaker 5: character of beatle Juice is one that I resonate with
Speaker 5: a lot, as I think a lot of people do,
Speaker 5: because he's kind of a piece of shit, But he's,
Speaker 5: you know, a lovable piece of shit, which makes it
Speaker 5: at least he was in the original. I think we'll
Speaker 5: have plenty to talk about when it comes to this
Speaker 5: movie and Beatle Juice. But the original I think is
Speaker 5: a seminal film for me. I mean, you know, a
Speaker 5: lot of the bits from the first movie are things
Speaker 5: that you know, like the nice fucking model or the
Speaker 5: you know, hey, come here, got some good for you?
Speaker 5: Come on with the fucking zagnut bar. I mean, the
Speaker 5: original is a classic for a reason. Is this movie
Speaker 5: going to hold up to that in the long term?
Speaker 5: Thirty five years from now, will we be talking about Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice,
Speaker 5: which give them credit? The title is clever, I don't.
Speaker 5: I mean, it is just based on the premise alone
Speaker 5: of the what the framing device of Beetlejuice as a
Speaker 5: character is the title of the movie's great I mean,
Speaker 5: Beetle Juice Coastwaiian is the thing we all wanted, obviously
Speaker 5: for the longest time and still do.
Speaker 2: But I think if we're talking legacy sequels, which this
Speaker 2: very much is, I think it's one of the better ones,
Speaker 2: if not, kind of up there with a good example
Speaker 2: of how you can do this if you want to
Speaker 2: do this. And that's the thing with this movie for me.
Speaker 2: Did we need this No? Did we need this earlier
Speaker 2: than twenty twenty four, Yes, that's the problem. Did we
Speaker 2: need it now?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: Did we need it twenty years ago? Yeah?
Speaker 5: I kind of think so if we were going to
Speaker 5: be doing a Beetlejuice movie thirty five fucking years later,
Speaker 5: Did people just wake up that Beetlejuice.
Speaker 2: Was a character that we wanted to revisit.
Speaker 5: No, I just I've never understood that the issue with
Speaker 5: legacy sequels that it took the industry twenty years to
Speaker 5: wisen up to we have all these things people like,
Speaker 5: oh my god, Like it doesn't take people going to
Speaker 5: Spirit Halloween and buying Beetlejuice shit for you to realize
Speaker 5: you have one of the more iconic characters that's been created,
Speaker 5: at least in terms of eighties movies, And it's like
Speaker 5: it took thirty five years to get to this point
Speaker 5: for real. It shocks me that we're talking about a
Speaker 5: Beetlejuice movie in twenty twenty four, not because I didn't
Speaker 5: think this movie would have ever come out, but because
Speaker 5: I didn't think it would have taken thirty five years
Speaker 5: to make a movie about Beetlejuice. Again, given that there
Speaker 5: was a cartoon, given that the original was so successful,
Speaker 5: given that we are watching a second one thirty five
Speaker 5: years later.
Speaker 1: Beetlejuice has multiple porn parodies. Let's just put that out there.
Speaker 1: There are multiple it's been that long. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: Edward Penis Hands came out so quickly after the original
Speaker 1: Edward Scissorhands. Yeah, okay, it makes sense to me that
Speaker 1: we're not really getting a sequel for that, but maybe
Speaker 1: we will. Maybe we'll get in Edward Scissorhands too, where
Speaker 1: we don't explain why Johnny Depp has aged all these
Speaker 1: years or something. Yeah, how about you, father Mallon, what
Speaker 1: do you think about Beetlejuice?
Speaker 3: Beetlejuice well, here's a fun fact, gentlemen, when this move.
Speaker 3: When Beatle Juice, the original Beetlejuice came out, studios used to.
Speaker 1: Do preview nights.
Speaker 3: They would do it like a week before the film
Speaker 3: was scheduled to come out, usually on a Thursday. They
Speaker 3: would always partner it up with whatever was sort of
Speaker 3: failing at the box office. In this case, Beetlejuice was
Speaker 3: partnered up with Police Academy assignment to Miami Beach, and
Speaker 3: so I attended this special screening of Beetlejuice with HP
Speaker 3: fellow weirding Way Media mogul HP. That was the first
Speaker 3: thing we ever went to the movies to see together
Speaker 3: as freshmen in high school. And I loved the fucking movie,
Speaker 3: obviously when I'm about the soundtrack. Was obsessed with it
Speaker 3: for years and years, and was especially proud because Michael
Speaker 3: McDowell lived in Medford, which was the town over from
Speaker 3: my hometown, and wrote Beetlejuice because he hated his neighbors
Speaker 3: and wanted to imagine a way to fucking kill them all,
Speaker 3: and a bio exorcist seemed like a good idea. So
Speaker 3: that movie hasn't diminished in any way for me over
Speaker 3: the years, every time I want Beetlejuice, it's just as
Speaker 3: good as when I first watched it. I don't have
Speaker 3: any problems with that movie, like at all. So I
Speaker 3: wasn't surprised that they made another one, and I'm not
Speaker 3: surprised it took them as long as they did. The
Speaker 3: fact is the movie was never getting made unless it
Speaker 3: was Burton and Keaton. Neither was going to make the
Speaker 3: movie without the other. So I mean, I am surprised
Speaker 3: it took as long as it did, and I suspect
Speaker 3: it went into production finally because of Jenna or Tega.
Speaker 3: I think once he figured that out and had Auf
Speaker 3: and Miller retool the screenplay to have this daughter character,
Speaker 3: I think that's why we got a movie. Here's the thing, though,
Speaker 3: I think that's unfortunate because I think that character is
Speaker 3: superfluous to the movie that we got. I agree with you, Chris,
Speaker 3: I think this is the best of the legacy sequels
Speaker 3: that we've seen. I think there's more to recommend this
Speaker 3: movie than not. I think the fan service sucks. I'm
Speaker 3: sorry it's in here because I think the innovative stuff
Speaker 3: that they do in here is really fun. I like
Speaker 3: all the stuff we spent, all the time we spend
Speaker 3: in the fucking paranormal world, all the ghostly stuff. It's
Speaker 3: all great. It's so great, in fact, that I wish
Speaker 3: they had just done a reverse to the first film
Speaker 3: and spent the little time that we spend in the
Speaker 3: human world as opposed to it should have taken place
Speaker 3: entirely in the ghost world, is my point. But having
Speaker 3: said that, and I do have even greater problems with it,
Speaker 3: namely justin Thuru's character. I liked it overall. I mean,
Speaker 3: it was a good time. It's when I saw the
Speaker 3: early trailers I was really scared because it seemed like
Speaker 3: whatever takes they were using of Michael Keaton, he seemed
Speaker 3: really tired, and I was worried that this was just
Speaker 3: going to be sad, and it's that was not the
Speaker 3: case at all. There's more of him in this movie
Speaker 3: than the first film, and it's welcome. I wish there
Speaker 3: was more of it. That's my take on Beetlejuice Belers.
Speaker 1: What about you, Mike, Well, I don't think I like it,
Speaker 1: liked it as much as you did. I think I
Speaker 1: liked it okay, but it just it felt kind of scattered.
Speaker 1: It didn't really feel like there was a real clear
Speaker 1: through line to this.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I'm also a huge fan of the original saw that
Speaker 1: theatrically back in eighty eight, watched it a ton when
Speaker 1: it was on cable in VHS, and just really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: This one, it this one almost felt more like a
Speaker 1: Men in Black sequel than a Beetlejuice sequel, especially with
Speaker 1: Monica Belushi character, who I mean, she gets a what
Speaker 1: two lines maybe during this whole thing, and there were
Speaker 1: times where I was looking at her going is that
Speaker 1: Catherine Zeta Jones from Wednesday? Or is that did Tim
Speaker 1: Burton finally make amends with Lisa Marie and get her back?
Speaker 1: Because he certainly has a type And apparently he and
Speaker 1: Monica Blucci are now dating, which okay, I guess that's
Speaker 1: one of his rules, is that he has to date
Speaker 1: some of the cast members. I mean, that was how
Speaker 1: and why Helena Bonham Carter, who is a fucking fantastic
Speaker 1: actress gets in here and I love into his world.
Speaker 1: I should say I love Monica Blucci, but she has
Speaker 1: nothing to do in this movie other than walk around,
Speaker 1: and it just felt like there was nothing going on
Speaker 1: with her, and I was like, where is she in
Speaker 1: relation to the rest of these characters. I thought Catherine
Speaker 1: O'Hara Delia had mellowed incrediblyity over the years, and maybe
Speaker 1: that's just the way that life works. And of course
Speaker 1: just the introduction of the Jeffrey Jones character and that
Speaker 1: how that becomes a thing throughout the whole movie, this
Speaker 1: corpse walking around without a head and with a person
Speaker 1: doing a Jeffrey Jones impersonations voice coming out of it.
Speaker 1: Did we even need this? I thought it was kind
Speaker 1: of nice having the sharp shaped tombstone, and I thought
Speaker 1: the production design of this was very good. I don't
Speaker 1: know if we needed the musical act. I guess they
Speaker 1: were like, well, we did Dano in the first one,
Speaker 1: so we have to do MacArthur Park in this one.
Speaker 1: And I love MacArthur Park, and so this one was
Speaker 1: perversely enjoyable in that part, especially seeing all of the
Speaker 1: people live syncing MacArthur Park. And it's such a ridiculous
Speaker 1: song that I think that it fits this perfectly. But
Speaker 1: I kind of missed more of that Danny Elfman score.
Speaker 1: I mean, to your point, this is one of his
Speaker 1: best scores, and I know he did music for this,
Speaker 1: but it just wasn't as present as it could have been.
Speaker 1: I mean, there were characters in here that just kind
Speaker 1: of drop in and drop out, like Wollem Dafoe, and
Speaker 1: I just I was like, please, guys, just give this
Speaker 1: another pass or two or three at the typewriter, because
Speaker 1: I think that it could have been way better.
Speaker 5: But to both of your points, if you are here
Speaker 5: or Beetlejuice, I think it satisfies in that regard, right.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean Beetlejuice is a tough character. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys read those sequel scripts
Speaker 1: to Beetlejuice, Like there were at least two out there,
Speaker 1: and I know there's probably been more. But it's a
Speaker 1: tough thing because he's kind of like the shark from Jaws,
Speaker 1: Like you don't want him on screen too much, and
Speaker 1: it's smart to keep him away from things. Here I
Speaker 1: am complaining about Monica Alucci is too far away from things.
Speaker 1: But I think they give us just the right amount
Speaker 1: of Beetle Juice because too much would have been way
Speaker 1: you know, even more would have been way too much.
Speaker 3: And I disagree with that. Actually, please, because here's the thing. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I honestly wish this had been a movie beginning to
Speaker 3: end Beetlejuice and then he has to come to our
Speaker 3: world to like fucking deal with his Monica Balucci problem. Look,
Speaker 3: I did not in any let me deal with Michael
Speaker 3: Keaton first, because I think I was worried too. And
Speaker 3: everyone keeps saying that a little living goes a long way,
Speaker 3: which is true, and he's in that first movie only
Speaker 3: like twelve minutes. It's the perfect amount, right. But the
Speaker 3: thing is, the human stuff going on in that movie
Speaker 3: is so fucking compelling that having this chaotic character show
Speaker 3: up every once in a while it's just the right
Speaker 3: amount in this movie. I don't give a fuck about
Speaker 3: Jenna or Taegis character, or her boyfriend or anything else
Speaker 3: sort of swirling around here. There's a lot that I
Speaker 3: really like in the movie. But it is, as you said,
Speaker 3: like they needed another pass on the screenplay. If this
Speaker 3: had been a even okay, putting aside my fucking fan
Speaker 3: fictioning that it should have been from Beetlejuice's point of view,
Speaker 3: it seems to me, and maybe I'm crazy, that this
Speaker 3: at one point was going to be a love triangle
Speaker 3: movie between Lydia, her boyfriend and Beatlejuice. Doesn't it seem
Speaker 3: like it was constructed.
Speaker 1: That way a little bit?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and not the fucking stupid boob of a character
Speaker 3: that fucking justin Threeaux is playing. Which, by the way,
Speaker 3: when you do that in a movie like this, you
Speaker 3: have one of our lead characters, one of our most
Speaker 3: beloved characters, fall in love with this fucking moron like
Speaker 3: it cheapens her. Sorry everybody, but making her in love
Speaker 3: with this boob does not aid her character in any way,
Speaker 3: shape or form. It's really it's hurtful. But if Lydia
Speaker 3: had been in love with a ghost and she's and
Speaker 3: this other ghost is firing for her attention, that could
Speaker 3: have been fucking great. It would have streamlined everything. But no,
Speaker 3: we have to have Jenna or Tag in it because
Speaker 3: she's she's his real new muse in the movie.
Speaker 1: Well, no offense to the actor that played the ex
Speaker 1: husband with all the kiranhas on him, but who is he?
Speaker 1: Because I was expecting somebody big to show up, I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, well, this guy's got to be at
Speaker 1: least like Pedro Pascal level or something, or you know,
Speaker 1: somebody who I knew, and then this guy shows up.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how about Ewan McGregor or somebody Tim Burton's worked with.
Speaker 3: Danny DeVito was a fucking janitor for two seconds. Give
Speaker 3: us some Johnny Depp.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what.
Speaker 5: I don't know what to say, Like it's twenty twenty four.
Speaker 5: Give us some Johnny Depp for fuck's sake. I don't
Speaker 5: know they work together enough.
Speaker 1: They sure did, and you know, if you're worried about
Speaker 1: the optics, I mean, they got rid of Jeffrey Jones,
Speaker 1: so I don't know if.
Speaker 2: They sure did didn't.
Speaker 3: But here's the thing. Does a claimation pedophile somehow the
Speaker 3: real pedophile even absolved? But does it not? Does it
Speaker 3: take you out of the movie, because it took me
Speaker 3: out of the movie. Here's the thing. I loved the
Speaker 3: idea of a flashback being claimation. I thought it was great.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it really recalled Cabin Boy because it was
Speaker 1: that same style of anime that was in Cabin Boy.
Speaker 3: But it's just Jeffrey Jones. And I'm like, there's a
Speaker 3: reason he's not in this movie. Guys. They didn't write
Speaker 3: his character as dead for just dramatic purposes, because if
Speaker 3: there had been no scandal rest issured, Charles Deets would
Speaker 3: be in this movie.
Speaker 2: Yeah, still acting weird thirty five years later.
Speaker 1: Well, and she even gives a what's the name of
Speaker 1: the guy that Robert Cooley played.
Speaker 3: Oh, Maxy Priest.
Speaker 1: Yeah. They She even says at one point during the funeral,
Speaker 1: Oh was that Maxi Priest?
Speaker 2: And I was like, Oh, wasn't he dead? He?
Speaker 5: Well, no, I know that, but like, also, like, isn't
Speaker 5: the character in the universe dead?
Speaker 2: He got shot through the roof of the house.
Speaker 3: Oh that's true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is.
Speaker 3: We tend not to think of what happened to him,
Speaker 3: but he's most likely dead. He was launched through a
Speaker 3: ceiling of a century old house. By the way, one
Speaker 3: of my favorite bits in the entire movie is after
Speaker 3: Charles's funeral that the house itself is in mourning, that
Speaker 3: they've draped the entire house in black gossamer. I thought
Speaker 3: that was fucking hilarious. That actually made me laugh out loud. Also,
Speaker 3: I wish the trailer had not ruined the child choir
Speaker 3: singing the Banana Boat song because it being sung at
Speaker 3: his funeral. That's the other that made me laugh really
Speaker 3: hard as well.
Speaker 1: I was glad I hadn't seen the trailer. But there
Speaker 1: were several times during the movie where I was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: this has got to be a trailer shot. There's one
Speaker 1: where like the camera's kind of I don't want tracking
Speaker 1: across faces. It might be at that funeral, and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, well, this is a trailer shot.
Speaker 3: And then there's another.
Speaker 1: One where it's the City Model and they're inside of
Speaker 1: the attic and somebody comes in and goes, oh wow whatever.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh yeah, this is totally from the trailer
Speaker 1: to it missed to be Yeah, some thought that he
Speaker 1: was gone.
Speaker 2: Beatle Juice beatles. Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 5: And we did the fucking advertising for this movie.
Speaker 2: This summer. Michael Keaton returns. All Right, we're good. He's
Speaker 2: the He's the best part of this movie other than
Speaker 2: the practical effects.
Speaker 3: Well, the practical effects are off the charts. They're greatest.
Speaker 2: That's that's that is the best part of this movie.
Speaker 5: Ultimately, say what you will about Beetle Juice as a character,
Speaker 5: say what you will about your My leg will vary
Speaker 5: with Beetlejuice, and I agree with you, Father Malone. You
Speaker 5: know look, the first movie. They it's not that they
Speaker 5: didn't know what they had, but they knew what they
Speaker 5: had enough to keep Beatle Juice.
Speaker 2: Off the screen so that he didn't get in the way.
Speaker 5: Now I agree it would have benefited them if they had,
Speaker 5: you know, just given us more goddamn Beetle Juice and
Speaker 5: less of everything else.
Speaker 2: Because is it okay to.
Speaker 5: Say I don't get I get it with Jenna Ortega,
Speaker 5: but it doesn't do anything for me. Does that make sense?
Speaker 5: Can I say that? Is that a thing to say
Speaker 5: it doesn't do anything for me? I would rather Kiernan
Speaker 5: Shipka because I think Kieranan Shipka is kind of what
Speaker 5: I think Jenna Ortega for a lot of people is,
Speaker 5: which is a very talented young person who got there
Speaker 5: starting on a TV show that was on Netflix or
Speaker 5: is ostensitibly known for it. And Kieran Shipka played Sabrina,
Speaker 5: which much better show than Wednesday.
Speaker 2: In a lot of ways.
Speaker 5: It doesn't have Louise Guzman in it, I get it,
Speaker 5: but you know, I found Sabrina to be a much
Speaker 5: more interesting show that's talking about the same things, if
Speaker 5: not very similar things.
Speaker 3: Well, look, I fundamentally think that that character should not
Speaker 3: be in the movie. So for the Goths, baby, and
Speaker 3: the thing is, like, the actual prototypical Goth girl is
Speaker 3: Lydia Diets. That's where it all began. The modern goth
Speaker 3: starts with her. There's just no question about that, right right,
Speaker 3: We've got her. We don't need another her. I would
Speaker 3: have appreciated something different. I don't need a little clone
Speaker 3: of Winona Rye, like the sort of brooding team.
Speaker 2: No, it should have been if anything, her kids should
Speaker 2: have been the complete one eighty of her.
Speaker 1: Right, something should have been like Wednesday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, Mom? Whatever? Mom? Okay Mom? Would that have
Speaker 2: been a little on the nose, sure, But I think what.
Speaker 5: They did was equally on the nose, if not just
Speaker 5: I don't know, I don't know. I did not think
Speaker 5: that her character was needed in this movie anymore than
Speaker 5: you did Father Malone. And again, I'm kind of also
Speaker 5: just over the Jenna Ortaga of it, Jenna Ortega of
Speaker 5: it all, because she is just kind of everywhere now
Speaker 5: and I have only really seen her used well in
Speaker 5: a handful of things. This is not one of them.
Speaker 5: She was good in Scream, She's great in Scream. Both
Speaker 5: of those screen movies she's pretty good.
Speaker 2: Even second one that's not as good as the first one,
Speaker 2: but she's great in it. But this is not that caliber.
Speaker 5: And again to your point, it's like, what's the point
Speaker 5: of having just another version of Winona writer on screen
Speaker 5: that now they're competing with each other. That's a good no,
Speaker 5: Like it would be like putting another Beetlejuice.
Speaker 2: In the movie. Do we really need to do that?
Speaker 5: Do people really not realize how big of a deal
Speaker 5: Lydiadets is in this universe to so many people, like
Speaker 5: you said, Father Malone.
Speaker 2: Like she's as big of a character as Beatlejuice.
Speaker 5: She's the character that people probably resonate more with from
Speaker 5: these movies than Beatle Juice. Let's be honest here, it's
Speaker 5: the weirdos that like Beatlejuice. It's the less weirdos that
Speaker 5: like Lydia Deats because she's the likable, understandable quote unquote
Speaker 5: character in the first movie, and especially for people who
Speaker 5: were y'all's age seeing it at the time.
Speaker 1: Well, and Winona Ryder, I don't know if she's trying
Speaker 1: to do an homage to that speech that was given
Speaker 1: at the what was it the Grammys where she had
Speaker 1: that confused look on her face, because that's what she's
Speaker 1: doing every time what's the guy's name, Rory, the Justin
Speaker 1: Throw character speaks, she keeps doing that, like what huh?
Speaker 1: Like totally confused. I was like, is that is this?
Speaker 1: Are we making a reference.
Speaker 3: Now to that?
Speaker 1: I guess that's why what's happening? And then I mean,
Speaker 1: really to your point with Jenna Ortega, so much of
Speaker 1: her story is taken up by this Jeremy character, the
Speaker 1: Arthur Kanti character, who you just see all of that
Speaker 1: stuff coming a mile away. As soon as they showed
Speaker 1: his parents and you didn't see their faces, I'm like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: well they're probably dead or their demons or something. And
Speaker 1: of course Jenna Artega cancy spirits because she is the
Speaker 1: daughter of lead Lydia. Dead's okay, I guess this makes
Speaker 1: sense and this is all you know. Within the first
Speaker 1: few minutes of this character showing up, I'm like, oh, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I have this guy figured out, and he's going to
Speaker 1: be her entree into the underworld. I think it would
Speaker 1: have been better had that she had a different entree
Speaker 1: into the underworld. Maybe if that tied into the Dolores story.
Speaker 1: The Monica Bluci story, Balucci story. There we go something.
Speaker 1: It just it didn't like I said, It just feels
Speaker 1: like a whole bunch of stuff all through together, even
Speaker 1: when it comes to lydia diets in her psychic program.
Speaker 1: Show me more, give me a little bit more of
Speaker 1: that stuff rather than I'm assuming all kinds of stuff
Speaker 1: with that show. But I really would have liked to
Speaker 1: have seen it, and I would have liked to have seen,
Speaker 1: you know, much more of they cut us off from
Speaker 1: before we find out what's going on with the little
Speaker 1: dog and the family. I was like, Okay, I want
Speaker 1: to see what is possessing this house, but no, we'll
Speaker 1: get away from that. I'm like, this could have been
Speaker 1: some high comedy in this area, but instead we have
Speaker 1: to hurry up and get away from it.
Speaker 2: Who would have thunk that this movie would steal from
Speaker 2: the best Ghostbusters sequel ever, Ghostbusters too.
Speaker 5: I mean it literally opens with hairless cats. Weird, Like
Speaker 5: it's literally that, which to me is this movie dates itself.
Speaker 5: These that's not a thing. This is not a thing anymore.
Speaker 5: Oh they're driving an electric vehicle. Okay, so it's twenty
Speaker 5: twenty four, but a lot of the sentimentality and sensibilities
Speaker 5: of this movie are trapped in nineteen eight eighty five,
Speaker 5: still in nineteen eighty seven, nineteen eighty nine. It feels
Speaker 5: like an eighties movie more so than a lot of
Speaker 5: legacy sequels do, which is fine. I'm not complaining about it,
Speaker 5: but it doesn't if it's going to be made in
Speaker 5: twenty twenty four, there needs to be a pass for
Speaker 5: the twenty twenty four of it all or the modernity
Speaker 5: of it all, and it doesn't seem to be interested
Speaker 5: in doing that at all, which is fine, I get it,
Speaker 5: but that this movie is set in the future and
Speaker 5: they're juxtaposing it against a time and a place that
Speaker 5: time doesn't seem to exist in, and it's just it's
Speaker 5: so strange to me that some of the choices that
Speaker 5: are made in this movie feel like straight out of
Speaker 5: other eighties movies and other eighties sequels. That this movie
Speaker 5: again is, in a lot of ways a comparative to
Speaker 5: This movie is a comparative to Ghostbusters too. Did it
Speaker 5: take a much longer time to come out, Yes, but
Speaker 5: it is technically a sequel to a very successful eighties movie,
Speaker 5: and it literally has a blotline from one of those
Speaker 5: movies dragged out and thrown right on screen, almost identical
Speaker 5: to the way that that movie opens with one of
Speaker 5: its main characters.
Speaker 3: I think this is a better movie than Ghostbusters too.
Speaker 3: And as for Mardin it the sort of modern aspect
Speaker 3: of this movie, what are you talking about? The entire
Speaker 3: last third of the movie takes place as a giant
Speaker 3: joke for Soul Training.
Speaker 5: Oh god, yeah, man, I'm a hep cat and I
Speaker 5: can dig it, can't you? Like?
Speaker 1: It was wild? I was just like, how many of
Speaker 1: the kids watching this are getting this at all?
Speaker 2: How many Hearens though in this.
Speaker 1: Theater even know who Don Cornelius is.
Speaker 3: Burton obviously has a seventies fetish like The Dark Shadows
Speaker 3: was also set in this ye name sort of seventies universe.
Speaker 3: And here's the thing. Had this movie come out fucking
Speaker 3: twenty years ago or in nineteen ninety eight or something,
Speaker 3: then this would all be fantastic, Like it would be
Speaker 3: like groundbreaking in a way.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 3: It's just I mean, I loved it. I look, I
Speaker 3: love a soul Train joke. I love that there was
Speaker 3: a ghostly Don Cornet there. That was all great as
Speaker 3: far as I can tell. But you know, everything seems
Speaker 3: just a little too late to the game. You know, Mike,
Speaker 3: you mentioned Monica Belu. She she doesn't really get much
Speaker 3: to do here, right, I would say further, this character Dolores,
Speaker 3: who is the antagonist of the piece, what we end
Speaker 3: up with is once again a fucking jilted girlfriend or wife,
Speaker 3: the sort of crazy ex girlfriend character, Like she's coming
Speaker 3: to fucking kill because she's a nutcase.
Speaker 2: Eh.
Speaker 3: But then we get a flashback here, so we get
Speaker 3: to see Beetlejuice before he died. We get to see
Speaker 3: how Beetlejuice died, and she's a murderess. She poisons him
Speaker 3: and kills him, and in turn, before he dies, he
Speaker 3: kills her. And now this movie she's out for revenge
Speaker 3: against him. But she killed him, correct, So that's her
Speaker 3: only motivation. And you know, Mike you said about Tim
Speaker 3: Burton like constantly having a type and constantly this is
Speaker 3: this is Mortitia. Yeah right, it's the patchwork girl, but
Speaker 3: like a more a goth version, like when she went
Speaker 3: into a dry cleaners and started like picking off clothes
Speaker 3: and like turning them black by touching them. All I
Speaker 3: could think about is the soundes and hot topic. Oh
Speaker 3: and speaking of that, I am very excited to get
Speaker 3: a lot of undead hot dog on a stick girls
Speaker 3: this Halloween. Very much looking forward to it. Thank you, Tim.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I also like you. I find the Afterlife to
Speaker 1: be the most interesting part and really would have liked
Speaker 1: to have had more there. I kind of would have
Speaker 1: liked to have seen more of what Danny Debrito's up
Speaker 1: to as this janitor character. Yeah, it just they also
Speaker 1: missed this whole idea, and this might have just moved
Speaker 1: the original movie along, the whole idea of when you're
Speaker 1: in the afterlife, time moves differently there, right, the whole
Speaker 1: thing of oh, you've been gone for three months, it's
Speaker 1: like three months. I was just there for half an hour.
Speaker 1: And of course that makes it so that you know, oh,
Speaker 1: what have the beats is done to the house. But
Speaker 1: at the same time, it's like, come on, guys, and
Speaker 1: I don't know the Yeah, the Maitlands were supposed to
Speaker 1: be there for one hundred and twenty five years, but
Speaker 1: we're not seeing them anymore. I guess they left, so
Speaker 1: that was odd too. Again, just if you stay away
Speaker 1: from the house, you don't have to worry about the
Speaker 1: Maitland part of it, but we got to go back
Speaker 1: to the house. We gotta do this again. We gotta
Speaker 1: do that again. I'm surprised that they didn't get I know,
Speaker 1: we've moved down from Tony Cox as being the little
Speaker 1: person of choice for Tim Burton, but I'm surprised we
Speaker 1: didn't get deep Roy coming back as like that same
Speaker 1: little priest character from the first movie too, because again
Speaker 1: we end with a marriage. It's like, again, we're doing this,
Speaker 1: We're doing the marriage again.
Speaker 5: Well it's a legacy sequel, baby, and we got to
Speaker 5: do the things again. But yeah, where's Alec Baldwin and
Speaker 5: Geena Davis and all this? That's the real one of
Speaker 5: the real big questions I had here, because, like you mentioned,
Speaker 5: Father Alone, the first movie is ostensibly named Beetlejuice, but
Speaker 5: it has him in it as much as Jaws is
Speaker 5: in Jaws. His purpose is needed, but not overdone. In
Speaker 5: this movie.
Speaker 2: They don't even are are they even mentioned?
Speaker 1: They are mentioned at one point, Okay, so it's like
Speaker 1: just says they moved on.
Speaker 3: I'm right, Oh, okay, okay.
Speaker 5: Yes, So in a in a world where the undead
Speaker 5: are the most important thing that we're talking about in
Speaker 5: the afterlife is this whole thing? But they just moved on. Okay,
Speaker 5: it's they got mudded from Indiana Jones and dial Destiny.
Speaker 5: They Pucci themselves. They didn't make it back to their
Speaker 5: home plan and they died on the way home. All right, whatever,
Speaker 5: fu whatever, fine, you know. I mean Will Will Smith
Speaker 5: and Independence Day Resurgence, he just died off screen. This
Speaker 5: is his son man legacy sequels. I don't think we
Speaker 5: should be making them if we can't get all the
Speaker 5: people involved.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Seems kind of like a thing that we should be,
Speaker 5: you know, taking under advisement if we continue to make these,
Speaker 5: which at this point, are there any left to make?
Speaker 5: I guess there are. I guess there are. But in
Speaker 5: terms of like eighties movies, I think think they've run out.
Speaker 5: I think now it's going to be nineties in two thousand.
Speaker 5: Well it's got to be, because they got to start
Speaker 5: all the projects.
Speaker 1: Their rulers other Day Off.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Edward Scissor Hands and spoon feet.
Speaker 1: Forty seven candles. What's the when they're they are already
Speaker 1: in pink Er, the next to Last star Fighter. They
Speaker 1: are working at a Last Starfighter.
Speaker 2: As far as I know, what about pretty er in pink?
Speaker 2: Is that kid?
Speaker 4: There? You go?
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty too pink?
Speaker 3: Every last drop of blood from every property, and that's
Speaker 3: already come before our fucking kill them destroy all the culture.
Speaker 3: So we have to start new.
Speaker 5: Well or we could just have it at world's end,
Speaker 5: just an emp grenade set off and just destroy all
Speaker 5: of this. So we have to start over and new,
Speaker 5: because yeah, we've we've really worked ourselves into a shoot
Speaker 5: here in the entertainment industry. Because again, I mean, I
Speaker 5: mentioned the idea that it took them thirty years to realize.
Speaker 2: They could do legacy sequels.
Speaker 5: We didn't need to wait this long for this, like
Speaker 5: you said, father moment, Like, I get what you were
Speaker 5: getting at. But I know that they weren't waiting or whatever.
Speaker 5: And I know that Tim Burton and the Michael Keaton of
Speaker 5: it all make this a little bit different than everything else.
Speaker 5: But there was going to be a time where they
Speaker 5: were going to make this without Michael Keaton and Tim.
Speaker 3: Burton, Well, that would have been a terrible idea.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, but.
Speaker 5: Look at how many sequels got made in the eighties
Speaker 5: and nineties without those primary people to begin with, yeah,
Speaker 5: I think maybe this movie did benefit from waiting this long,
Speaker 5: because now it's kind of put on a pedestal. I mean,
Speaker 5: the spirit Halloween of it all does that, The Universal
Speaker 5: Studios of it all does that. The Beetlejuice is Halloween
Speaker 5: review did that at Universal Studios. There was plenty of
Speaker 5: beetlejuice to be had in the last thirty five years.
Speaker 5: It's just there was no more beetlejuice to be had
Speaker 5: in the last thirty five years, and so we just
Speaker 5: drove around the same racetrack looking at the same things. Oh,
Speaker 5: Big Ben Parliament, We've seen it a million times. So
Speaker 5: now they're giving us more. I'm surprised that it has
Speaker 5: taken an industry who loves to give more this long
Speaker 5: to give us more of something that they clearly understood,
Speaker 5: for at least the last ten fifteen years, was a
Speaker 5: thing that people really clearly wanted and were willing to
Speaker 5: spend money on. Because I don't know where you guys
Speaker 5: see the movies, but they had beatlejuice, fucking merch and
Speaker 5: all sorts of shit at the movie theater. I went
Speaker 5: to popcorn buckets and everything else. And by said, when
Speaker 5: I say they had them. I mean they were sold out.
Speaker 5: They didn't have any because everybody bought them. So I
Speaker 5: don't think that this.
Speaker 2: Movie's hurting either.
Speaker 3: Nineteen eighty eight until now, the studio would have made
Speaker 3: this movie any year. I believe that the actual holdouts
Speaker 3: here are Burton and.
Speaker 5: Right, which is a unique situation comparatively to a lot
Speaker 5: of them.
Speaker 2: Is kind of your point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But mixed into that is the fact that because
Speaker 3: of this ip fucking madness, they've boxed everyone into fucking
Speaker 3: corners here. You know, it's make this or don't make
Speaker 3: anything at all, So it makes making a Beetlejuice sequel
Speaker 3: a little more tantalizing. Maybe Tim Burton gets to make
Speaker 3: some other fucking cuckoo movie after this, you know, one.
Speaker 2: For me, one for you type thing.
Speaker 1: I think what he's going to be doing is looking
Speaker 1: for his next maybe TV property to do, or other
Speaker 1: beloved film like Charlie and the Chocolate Factory or Planet
Speaker 1: of the Apes. He just you know what else can
Speaker 1: I ruin for people?
Speaker 2: Did he ruin Planet of the Apes? Or did Planet
Speaker 2: of the Apes ruin itself?
Speaker 1: Planet? He ruined Planet of the Apes?
Speaker 3: Shit, Conquest of the Planet of the Apes is my favorite.
Speaker 3: It's like the fifth one in the series or fourth one.
Speaker 1: No that yeah, Conquest is four. Battle for the Planet
Speaker 1: of the Apes is five. That's what they want face
Speaker 1: face off against the mole Men. And that's got John
Speaker 1: Houston as the Lowgiver and Paul Williams as Virgil I
Speaker 1: think his name is Yeah, kind of a waste of character, but.
Speaker 2: But hey, we got some good talk show late night
Speaker 2: talk show with Paul Williams. An ape an ape out
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 1: That showed up on the tonight show.
Speaker 3: That was great.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and hey we got a lot of Beetlejuice doing
Speaker 5: then Michael Keaton doing the exact same thing here out
Speaker 5: of you know, playing Beetlejuice and advertising and all sorts
Speaker 5: of stuff. It's, you know, for as much as Dead
Speaker 5: Pull and Wolverine was the beginning of the summer, this
Speaker 5: is like the waning days of the summer in terms
Speaker 5: of the big ip. Right, You asked me what my
Speaker 5: experience was like in the theaters. I went this afternoon
Speaker 5: and it was fucking full. Fuck it, it was full
Speaker 5: the way Alien Romulus was full. It was not surprised.
Speaker 5: But when I looked at the ages of the people
Speaker 5: in there. There were children in the theater for this movie,
Speaker 5: and I was like, wait a second, here beetled I mean, okay,
Speaker 5: it's the Halloween of it all, but not a kid's
Speaker 5: movie either, not really. I feel like a kid would
Speaker 5: watch this movie and be bored, because again, there's a
Speaker 5: lot going on, But I don't think it's necessarily a
Speaker 5: lot going on for someone who's seven or eight right
Speaker 5: now in twenty twenty four, and there were those age
Speaker 5: kids in the movie theater. It was where the parents
Speaker 5: were there. I get it, But.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Beetlejuice has been such as been kitty kitty ified down
Speaker 5: to like a kiddy thing now. The original Beetle Juice
Speaker 5: never struck me as a kids thing. I guess I
Speaker 5: get where it is now.
Speaker 3: Chris, there was a cartoon, remember, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I don't know how many of the people that I
Speaker 5: know now are watching that cartoon with their kids, though,
Speaker 5: is my point?
Speaker 3: All of them, what are you talking about?
Speaker 2: I don't know that for a fact, is my point.
Speaker 2: If you know that, it's perfectly fine.
Speaker 5: But when I talk to my friends about Beetlejuice, I've
Speaker 5: never heard them mention the cartoon they just mentioned watching
Speaker 5: the original movie with their kids, and the original movie
Speaker 5: is again for me, didn't strike me as a kid's movie,
Speaker 5: but maybe it is, and I just don't realize it.
Speaker 3: Just knowing the level of feuror of Beatles Juice fans,
Speaker 3: just looking at their output on social media, you know
Speaker 3: they're watching that cartoon with their kids. They're as much
Speaker 3: Beatles Juice as they can with their children.
Speaker 2: Should we call? How many of the kids watching this
Speaker 2: movie in the past weekend were named Lydia?
Speaker 3: You think a good lot of them?
Speaker 2: None named Beetlejuice, though, I bet hopefully not.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's fine, right, I don't.
Speaker 2: Are we the point now where it's just like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it finally came out.
Speaker 5: Okay, it's gonna take a while for anybody to really
Speaker 5: not get a wrangle on the movie.
Speaker 2: But it's been out for forty eight hours.
Speaker 5: I will be curious if this movie genuinely stands that
Speaker 5: test of time the way the original has. I don't
Speaker 5: want to say it won't because that's to throw it
Speaker 5: out immediately, but does this have the staying power of
Speaker 5: the original Beetlejuice.
Speaker 3: I'm interested to watch it again, honestly, Like I liked
Speaker 3: it that much. It sounds like I'm really down in
Speaker 3: this movie. I'm not. I had a really good time
Speaker 3: watching it. It's just that you're stacking it against one
Speaker 3: of the perfect films of the nineteen eighties.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, you have to. I mean, that's the fucking
Speaker 2: the way it is.
Speaker 3: You know, I really liked that prequel to the Thing,
Speaker 3: but it's nowhere near the league of the original film.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's actually I was thinking about that yesterday. I
Speaker 5: was watching some YouTube videos, but I was like, I
Speaker 5: should re watch that movie.
Speaker 2: It's not half bad.
Speaker 3: Oh I like that movie a lot, But is it
Speaker 3: in the same caliber?
Speaker 2: No, we're dear.
Speaker 5: Well, that becomes the question, right, is our expectation that
Speaker 5: it should be in the same caliber or should do
Speaker 5: something different?
Speaker 2: Or what's the expectation.
Speaker 3: Thirty five years later? I want it to be perfect.
Speaker 3: That's the thing. If this were ten years later, all
Speaker 3: the fonts with it, I'd be like, God, they did
Speaker 3: a really fucking good job considering you know.
Speaker 5: Well, it's the alien three of it. All right, we
Speaker 5: have fifteen months to make this movie. Why are you rushing?
Speaker 5: Why not wait? Let David Fincher make the movie, make
Speaker 5: a movie here, don't rush, and yet here we are
Speaker 5: thirty five years later and we're now getting There have
Speaker 5: been how many sequels to Alien since? There have been
Speaker 5: one sequel to Beatlejuice, all of them, literally all of them.
Speaker 5: Think about that for just two fucking seconds. It took
Speaker 5: this long to get a second beealder just movie. And
Speaker 5: we've had all of the Alien movies since essentially well
Speaker 5: other than Alien two, other than Alien two. Literally that's it, yah,
Speaker 5: which everybody would agree, or the first two best ones
Speaker 5: that barely get you know, ragged on. Everything else beyond
Speaker 5: that is where your mileage is going to vary. But yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean, it took that long to get anything else
Speaker 5: for this, and it's wow. I would put this up
Speaker 5: against all of those as better sequels.
Speaker 2: For the most part.
Speaker 1: I can't believe you guys have talked this long without
Speaker 1: discussing Bob and Oh wow, Ken and James or whoever.
Speaker 2: These other guys are rich characters, so good.
Speaker 1: I guess that Headshrinker was very angry at Century twenty
Speaker 1: one representatives and strength all these guys heads that I'll
Speaker 1: have the same yellow jackets. What so Beetlejuice is working
Speaker 1: in hell now? And he has office workers that I
Speaker 1: thought that was an interesting twist. I don't know how
Speaker 1: successful it was. I guess Monica Blue she's pretty stupid
Speaker 1: since she thinks that Bob in the Beetlejuice costume is Beetlejuice,
Speaker 1: I guess. But yeah, that was a choice too. That's
Speaker 1: one of those where I'm just like, Okay, we could
Speaker 1: have done something more with this, And we even end
Speaker 1: the film with all of the guys except for Bob
Speaker 1: out in the real world. I was really expecting a
Speaker 1: mid credit teaser or some sort of Joe sequence with
Speaker 1: what these guys are up to. I thought that would
Speaker 1: have actually worked out kind of well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I Beetlejuice three baby, that's oh okay.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, if that had happened like halfway through the
Speaker 3: movie where they just started running a mock in the
Speaker 3: real world, that could have been really, really good. As
Speaker 3: it is now, it just feels like fan service. You
Speaker 3: like that fucking headshrinking guy, Right, well, here's a lot
Speaker 3: of them. I don't need a lot of them.
Speaker 1: And apparently right well, and apparently Beadlejuice got his head unstrung,
Speaker 1: because that's how we last see him in the movie.
Speaker 3: I guess that's how you're promoted in that particular department.
Speaker 3: I liked that. I liked that it was sort of
Speaker 3: like a complaint department where everyone who was answering the
Speaker 3: phones had their mouths soon and shut. I thought that
Speaker 3: was a nice metaphor in there. And you know, I
Speaker 3: again everything in the Afterlife, Like we haven't even mentioned
Speaker 3: that Willem Dafoe was a character in this movie. Is
Speaker 3: this like eighties action star who is often the you know,
Speaker 3: he's investigating the Monica Ballucci character, like he's really going
Speaker 3: for it. Like Willem Dafoe has never been more excited
Speaker 3: to be in a movie than than this. You just
Speaker 3: I really liked his character here.
Speaker 1: The thing I liked the most about his character was
Speaker 1: his assistant, who would show up and hand them the
Speaker 1: cup of coffee. And I noticed he crushed it at
Speaker 1: one point, threw it against the wall, and there's this
Speaker 1: whole basket of empty coffee cups that have been crushed,
Speaker 1: and I was kind of hoping that would be a
Speaker 1: thing that he has to crush the cup. But at
Speaker 1: least she's there, and at least there are times where
Speaker 1: she just shows up out of nowhere and hands them
Speaker 1: a cup of coffee, and I really like that. I
Speaker 1: also really liked the use of the piano Dinagio score
Speaker 1: at the end when it's almost like Wednesday, when it's
Speaker 1: Asterid's dream sequence, And as soon as that music starts up,
Speaker 1: I'm just like, Okay, so we're doing a carry montage. Now,
Speaker 1: we're going to do our Carrie homage. We're gonna have
Speaker 1: something horrible happen. But then it ends up being the
Speaker 1: end of the fly and I'm just like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is another Geena Davis performance. I'd much other see than
Speaker 1: having the baby from Train Spotting show up and crawl
Speaker 1: across the ceiling. I'm like, oh, okay, great, Beetlejuice Baby.
Speaker 2: How have we talked about it? Forty five minutes without
Speaker 2: talking about Beetlejuice Baby.
Speaker 1: I know we're gonna get Beetlejuice Baby all over hot
Speaker 1: topic this year, and that's gonna be the new thing.
Speaker 1: It's going to crawl and its head will spin around
Speaker 1: and it'll make little noises. Maybe if you pull the string,
Speaker 1: it'll be like, you know, I'm the glost with the
Speaker 1: most babe or something like that will come out over it.
Speaker 5: Do you know what, I realized the thing we haven't
Speaker 5: mentioned that is probably the bigger inroad to Beetlejuice, Father
Speaker 5: Malone than even the animated cartoon has been for people.
Speaker 2: At this point. There was a musical, a Tony Award
Speaker 2: winning musical.
Speaker 5: That the three of us all forgot about, and now
Speaker 5: we collectively have egg on our faces because that is
Speaker 5: why Beetlejuice is so popular now is because of it.
Speaker 2: Disagrees.
Speaker 3: I disagree fundamentally with you.
Speaker 2: I think it is a well regarded musical just because
Speaker 2: we don't like it does it, But the popularity of
Speaker 2: it makes it easier to stomach something like this. I don't. Hey,
Speaker 2: I'm not agreeing with it.
Speaker 5: I'm not giving it a pass, but I think it's
Speaker 5: kind of weird how it reverse eats its own tail.
Speaker 5: It's we're gonna make a movie that gets made into
Speaker 5: a TV show that gets made into a musical, and
Speaker 5: now all those things are popular enough to go, hey,
Speaker 5: let's start eating in reverse and get back to another movie,
Speaker 5: because that's where we are. I wouldn't be surprised that
Speaker 5: there's another Beetle Juice animated thing that comes out after
Speaker 5: this on Netflix or something would you guys at this point, like,
Speaker 5: we don't know how much money this movie is gonna
Speaker 5: ultimately end up making and how successful it's going to be.
Speaker 5: On the other side of this, I know Tim Burton
Speaker 5: has joked that it took thirty five yeers to make
Speaker 5: Beetlejuice too, and it's going to take another one hundred
Speaker 5: to make the next one.
Speaker 2: Lies, fucking lies. Don't lie to us. Don't lie.
Speaker 5: If this movie makes a ton of money, you're gonna
Speaker 5: do the next one immediately, because why wouldn't you At
Speaker 5: this point, I'm not saying this movie set up a sequel,
Speaker 5: but it didn't leave it completely closed off at the end.
Speaker 5: If anything, the ending of the movie is a little strange.
Speaker 5: It ends on kind of a weird note with Beetlejuice
Speaker 5: in Lydia, which which could be explored further down the road.
Speaker 3: Frankly, a couple of things. I saw an interview with
Speaker 3: Winona Ryder who said, for all the years it took
Speaker 3: that she had been talking with Tim Burton, you know, whatever,
Speaker 3: they would mention that this possibility of a sequel, she
Speaker 3: would always say that in her mind, Lydia should end
Speaker 3: up with Beetlejuice, and I completely agree with her. And
Speaker 3: when he woke up next to her in that dream,
Speaker 3: I went, oh, my god, are they doing it? But
Speaker 3: they actually, that's great. And then she wakes up again
Speaker 3: and like, oh no, it's another horrible dream, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: but that could have been interesting. That's something okay. And
Speaker 3: now I would also like to fundamentally disagree with you, sir.
Speaker 3: Like a couple of years ago, my wife and I
Speaker 3: turned the front of our place into the Dante's inferner
Speaker 3: Room from the original Beetle Juice had nothing to do
Speaker 3: with that fucking musical. Ten years ago, I worked at
Speaker 3: a haunted house, a year round haunted house, and we
Speaker 3: did weddings there. You have no fucking idea how many
Speaker 3: Beetlejuice weddings I was witnessed to there. That was in
Speaker 3: twenty twelve. That musical is a flash in the panball.
Speaker 3: It is an addendum to be able to just It
Speaker 3: is a product of its continued popularity amongst the people
Speaker 3: it is. It is influencing zero.
Speaker 5: I mean, I get where you're coming from, and we
Speaker 5: are at log your heads on this, but I think
Speaker 5: at the end of the day, to both of our points,
Speaker 5: Beetlejuice is still in the public conscience one way or another,
Speaker 5: regardless of what it is from, because people having Beetlejuice
Speaker 5: weddings or again, the amount of stuff at Spirit that
Speaker 5: is Beetlejuice is more than I think anything else at
Speaker 5: Spirit in terms of branded merchandising for a singular movie.
Speaker 5: Are other horror things, but they're not getting as much
Speaker 5: stuff as Beetle Juice does. And I think it's I
Speaker 5: think it's kind of like almost the de facto Halloween
Speaker 5: movie too in a lot of ways, Like it's part
Speaker 5: of that conversation in the like what is the you know,
Speaker 5: I mean, we're going to talk about all kinds of
Speaker 5: those movies this year in October, but I think this
Speaker 5: is one of the ones, if not like the one
Speaker 5: clearly they're not. I mean, I guess the other thing
Speaker 5: is hocus Pocus. Really, that's the other thing that they
Speaker 5: have a lot of merchandise for. But that's kind of
Speaker 5: one A and one B of the same coin in
Speaker 5: a lot of ways.
Speaker 1: I imagine if I ran over to hot topic right now,
Speaker 1: if I can find one that I would find more
Speaker 1: Nightmare before Christmas stuff than I would beetlejuice stuff.
Speaker 5: No, you would find more beetle juice than Night Member
Speaker 5: Before Christmas. Night Before Christmas is kind of past a
Speaker 5: now for people my age, it was Night Before Christmas.
Speaker 5: But now for younger people, I think Jenna Ortega is
Speaker 5: that inroad to Beetlejuice for them, that like Nightmare and
Speaker 5: ELM's Nightmer Before Christmas, does not have because it's a
Speaker 5: it's you know, characters, you know, being voiced by people
Speaker 5: as opposed to oh look it's Wednesday Adams again, like.
Speaker 2: Doing that thing and this is now.
Speaker 3: They were actually chill as the who I think they
Speaker 3: were actually children who grew up on Night Christmas. So
Speaker 3: now it's beneath them, you know, they're looking for the
Speaker 3: next right labor and this is it.
Speaker 1: I will agree with you father. I'm alone as far
Speaker 1: as the musical because I think there's a reason I
Speaker 1: didn't remember it is because it was a flash in
Speaker 1: the pan. It wasn't like hair Spray, where Hairspray the
Speaker 1: musical was popular enough that they actually made the movie
Speaker 1: of the musical of Hairspray. I don't think we're going
Speaker 1: to get the movie of the musical of Beetle Juice.
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of up there with some of
Speaker 1: those other weird Like Carrie was a musical, we don't
Speaker 1: really talk about that. And I don't think that Furry
Speaker 1: brought about Carrie to the rage or any of the
Speaker 1: other remakes or subsequent carries that are out there.
Speaker 2: Because the musical was not nominated for Tony Awards.
Speaker 3: Is my cares what are you talking about.
Speaker 5: I don't care, is my point. But the industry cared
Speaker 5: enough to nominate it, is my point. I am not
Speaker 5: sitting here talking about the quality of Beetlejuice the musical.
Speaker 5: I've listened to it. It's fine, it doesn't need any
Speaker 5: of our help. But I think the different thing is
Speaker 5: just like it opened up an avenue for Beetlejuice to
Speaker 5: be popular with a whole group of people. I'm not
Speaker 5: sure they even gave a shit about Beatle Juice.
Speaker 1: Frankly, well, let's just remember that the lea female character
Speaker 1: from the episode of Tales from the Dark Side The
Speaker 1: Trouble of Mary Jane, was nominated as Best Newcomer for
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty seven based on that performance that she gave.
Speaker 2: I see nothing wrong with that episode.
Speaker 5: I see nothing wrong with that, but the fact that
Speaker 5: you're the fact that you're trying to gotcha moment me
Speaker 5: right now is just beyond the.
Speaker 1: Pant I don't think not trying to gotcha And I
Speaker 1: know you love that episode.
Speaker 3: So I do, But you needn't because the fact is
Speaker 3: it doesn't really matter that the statement that it's influential
Speaker 3: at all is false. That's all. That's all.
Speaker 2: That's sick your opinion, man.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, according.
Speaker 1: To Middlejuice Broadway dot Com, it's a screamingly funny musical.
Speaker 1: It is hilario dropping the funhouse.
Speaker 2: I heard that it's the best thing you could get
Speaker 2: jerked off to in Denver in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1: Holy shit, that's oh, I that's right. That it's the
Speaker 1: only time I had ever heard of Beetlejuice.
Speaker 2: That's right, that's the news story. Holy shit, it sure
Speaker 2: was for a lot of people. It also was there's
Speaker 2: a Beetle Juice musical and it's good enough for someone
Speaker 2: to get stroked to.
Speaker 1: So you're saying that we have of this legacy sequel.
Speaker 1: We need to thank Lauren Robert for.
Speaker 2: This, I hope.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 2: Wow, there's a lot of black and white all over.
Speaker 3: I'll accept that right on that I.
Speaker 2: Can get bine all right, or in front of or
Speaker 2: however you want to interpret it.
Speaker 1: It looks like Beetle Juice the Musical is on tour. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: they're going nowhere near Michigan, but they are going to
Speaker 1: be in El Paso in November December, Chris, if you
Speaker 1: want to head down to that in Texas, because I'm
Speaker 1: sure Texas is very close where we're at. Actually, they're
Speaker 1: going to be in Toledo in February, so I'll have
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 5: I already have my tickets to the other movie based
Speaker 5: musical that's coming through link in this year, Back to
Speaker 5: the Future of the Musical, another thing that literally I'm
Speaker 5: going to see it. Of course, not what in God's
Speaker 5: name is wrong with you, but the fact that I
Speaker 5: had to the fact that every time I drive home
Speaker 5: from Omaha, I see a billboard saying check out Back
Speaker 5: to the Future the Musical this summer.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, I'm good, I'm real good.
Speaker 5: And I felt the same way about Beatle Juice. Like
Speaker 5: the opening song for Beatle Juice the Musical is pretty catchy,
Speaker 5: but beyond that, like these movie musical things are a
Speaker 5: dime a dozen. They really there's American Psycho the musical
Speaker 5: And it wasn't an opera, it was a musical musical.
Speaker 5: We stop, please get help.
Speaker 2: Like Michael Jordan's said, I see from chim an A
Speaker 2: if it's the best one, that's the best one. I
Speaker 2: love you, Doctor Zaias. That's the best one.
Speaker 1: We have the whole arc. I mean, he hates all
Speaker 1: the chimpanzees, but then by the end he loves doctor Sayas.
Speaker 2: That's true. I love it. Yes, of the fish, great
Speaker 2: episode of that show, A fish named Selmer as a
Speaker 2: fish nat that's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, holy shit. Tickets for this musical in Toledo two
Speaker 1: hundred and ninety five dollars a person.
Speaker 2: I wasn't kidding, Go fuck yourself.
Speaker 1: That's insane.
Speaker 2: Down it's US.
Speaker 1: Five hundred and eighty five. This is fuck.
Speaker 2: You can bet Beatlejuice in the musical for six hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: I want to spend one thousand dollars for two people
Speaker 1: that go see a.
Speaker 5: Musical about a movie that you can watch undoubtedly on
Speaker 5: a streaming platform.
Speaker 1: God, this is crazy. Who are these people that buy
Speaker 1: these seats?
Speaker 5: Well, it's those are Hamilton prices for Beetlejuice musical quality.
Speaker 1: This is yeah, this is Toledo, man, this is fucking it.
Speaker 2: Hit us with one might come on? What holy totally?
Speaker 2: Oh sorry God.
Speaker 5: I guess that is the ultimate question though with something
Speaker 5: like this, because we have seen legacy sequels take a
Speaker 5: while to come out, and then another movie has come
Speaker 5: out pretty quickly afterwards. We talked about a Ghostbusters sequel
Speaker 5: not being a thing for a long time, and now
Speaker 5: there have been two in the last decade. Do y'all
Speaker 5: think that there will be a third Beetlejuice movie?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, two?
Speaker 1: I thought three? Are we forgetting the all female one?
Speaker 5: Talking about canonical one, I'm talking about the one that
Speaker 5: people want to acknowledge. Look, I know that there are
Speaker 5: some people that like that twenty sixteen Ghostbusters movie.
Speaker 2: Have at it. I was not talking about that movie, correct.
Speaker 3: I think that it's there's one hundred percent guarantee we're
Speaker 3: going to get a Beatle Juice Beetle Juice Beetlejuice, And
Speaker 3: if instead Tim Burton wants to give us a television
Speaker 3: series set in the paranormal world, I'm comfortable with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I really I know that Sylvia's Sydney has been
Speaker 1: gone for a long time, but I really would have
Speaker 1: liked to have had homage to let you know your caseworker. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was kind of sad for me to not get her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just have I'm damning this movie with faint praise,
Speaker 1: and I do be damning. Yeah. It was all right,
Speaker 1: but it just I'm not gonna be watching this like
Speaker 1: I watched the first one. I went back and rewatched
Speaker 1: the first one just earlier this week, and I still
Speaker 1: love it, absolutely love it. I still you know, that
Speaker 1: joy at the end with the other Harry Balafonte song
Speaker 1: is so fun and with Lydia up there floating in
Speaker 1: the air and all the football players showing up on
Speaker 1: the steps. Everything is so joyous in that movie. And
Speaker 1: I just didn't get the joy in this one, or
Speaker 1: even the frights. I mean even when Beatle just shows
Speaker 1: up as that giant snake and tries to scare everybody away.
Speaker 1: I thought that was really effective, and I didn't get
Speaker 1: any of that with this. Is it because I'm so
Speaker 1: many years older? Maybe, but I just again I felt
Speaker 1: like it was kind of just thrown together.
Speaker 5: Well, does this movie even attempt to do what that
Speaker 5: first movie does in terms of any horror beats, not really.
Speaker 5: That is a pretty pretty successful horror beat in that
Speaker 5: first movie. The thing with Beetlejuice becoming the handrail on
Speaker 5: the stairwell on the snake, that scene is pretty you know,
Speaker 5: I remember that scene scaring me as a kid, like
Speaker 5: straight up, because I saw Beetlejuice the first one as
Speaker 5: a kid, and I remember that scene scaring me as
Speaker 5: a kid. I don't think there's anything in this that
Speaker 5: comes close, because again, I think to your point, Mike,
Speaker 5: you put it very aptly, and I think it the
Speaker 5: more I've sat here and I've had it on in
Speaker 5: the background and I've just been thinking about it, Like
Speaker 5: the Men in Black of it all is really shocking.
Speaker 5: And again I guess it's the whole bureauification of the
Speaker 5: undead experience that you know, kind of translates the one
Speaker 5: to one to the bureauification of the alien experience right
Speaker 5: with Men in Black. But I would spend more time
Speaker 5: in this world without Beetlejuice, just like I would spend
Speaker 5: more time in the world of Men in Black without
Speaker 5: Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones. You know that the
Speaker 5: world that they've created is almost more interesting than the character.
Speaker 5: I get that the Beatlejuice character is the center of
Speaker 5: all of this, but he doesn't have to be. If
Speaker 5: the next thing that they do, they could do something
Speaker 5: else in this world if Tim Burton wanted someone else to, because,
Speaker 5: like you said, bottom alone, tim Burton kind of controls
Speaker 5: the keys to the kingdom on this because this is
Speaker 5: like so many things for him, his baby clearly, So
Speaker 5: there you go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, don't please don't invoke sticking to the other
Speaker 1: side of it, because it just so reminds me of like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, ripd or something. Ah, And maybe that's
Speaker 1: where the Wulm Defox character was throw me the wrong way.
Speaker 1: Just that he was Wolf Jackson and you barely see
Speaker 1: the poster behind him. I'm just like, I really would
Speaker 1: have liked to have known more of Wolf Jackson and
Speaker 1: his movies and all these things, just that he's a
Speaker 1: pompous asshole. Maybe cast somebody younger in that role, because
Speaker 1: I think that would have been kind of cool to
Speaker 1: be like, oh, he's the hip detective type of thing.
Speaker 1: But I mean, seeing will own the Foes I was great,
Speaker 1: and seeing has Green exposed was pretty darn cool as well.
Speaker 1: But Yeah, It just that there are so many bad
Speaker 1: ways that could have gone with this, and I'm glad
Speaker 1: they didn't go as fully bad, even though they had
Speaker 1: to cop out and use the sandworm to destroy the
Speaker 1: bad guy at the end of this, which I'm just like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we just saw that. We just saw that in the
Speaker 1: first movie back in nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 2: Come on, we need a bit of fans service.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's just a lot of fan there's we
Speaker 5: didn't really talk about the fan service a whole lot,
Speaker 5: Father Malone, you alluded to it being not great.
Speaker 2: A fan service in this movie is fucking bad.
Speaker 3: It's intolerable.
Speaker 2: Well, and what the question becomes when is fan service not?
Speaker 5: For the most part, I think the times it's not
Speaker 5: are the ones we're impressed by more than when they are,
Speaker 5: Because I mean, is this more or less intolerable than
Speaker 5: Ghostbusters Afterlife, which I found to be just as intolerable
Speaker 5: in terms of its fan service?
Speaker 2: Is this, for y'all is intolerable because I found it
Speaker 2: to be.
Speaker 3: It's more intolerable in this movie for me because I
Speaker 3: was really enjoying every other as not every other aspect,
Speaker 3: but a lot of this movie I enjoyed so or
Speaker 3: more than the Ghostbusters movie. Like, I like this movie.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna watch this movie again. You know so same.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, at least the fan service didn't factor into the
Speaker 2: overall conclusion of the movie entirely because having that Harold
Speaker 2: Ramus ghost thing show up at the end of that
Speaker 2: movie will never be a will never be a choice
Speaker 2: that I understand why they made, other than to just
Speaker 2: fan service your movie. Dave's X raymis style. Okay, thank
Speaker 2: god this movie didn't do that.
Speaker 5: They didn't have Jeffrey Jones show up as the headless
Speaker 5: corpse to do something. But the Sandworm is a close second.
Speaker 2: It really is.
Speaker 1: When you watch this again, please tell me if anything
Speaker 1: ever becomes of that. I guess he's Portuguese, the Tigre.
Speaker 1: I believe it's the character name. He gets hit in
Speaker 1: the head, he dies, he's got the big nod on
Speaker 1: his head. We see him a few times in the
Speaker 1: end world, and then he just disappears, and I'm like, again,
Speaker 1: kind of like the headshrink guys, I'm like, where are
Speaker 1: these guys? I was hoping for more of him. I
Speaker 1: thought he might actually play a part in this, but
Speaker 1: instead by having him in here several times. It draws
Speaker 1: attention to him, and I don't think we're supposed to
Speaker 1: be paying that much attention to him.
Speaker 3: No, I was going to ask you guys as well,
Speaker 3: if you saw him show up again, like maybe he
Speaker 3: was on the soul train at the very end, because
Speaker 3: it did seem like they were setting him up for
Speaker 3: a more important character than he was, because he's featured
Speaker 3: a few times, Like I thought he was going to
Speaker 3: be some sort of bumbling character throughout he keeps coming
Speaker 3: up against the bureaucracy of the afterlife. But nope, if
Speaker 3: he's just going to be the way we get to
Speaker 3: the after life, which I thought was clever because he
Speaker 3: falls into an open manhole clever and dies and then
Speaker 3: suddenly we're in the fucking cuckoo all the angles and
Speaker 3: checkerboards world. But then, like, why go back to him
Speaker 3: at all? If he figures into it, not a lot.
Speaker 3: I wonder if he's if stuff was cut out, you know,
Speaker 3: for time.
Speaker 5: I've got to assume that that's what it is, because well
Speaker 5: and again I think it's either cut out for Timer again,
Speaker 5: a ever changing script that has spent thirty five years
Speaker 5: being written, and you know.
Speaker 2: Who knows how much of it.
Speaker 5: They were like, well, we'll just leave that in and
Speaker 5: you can be wandering around in the background versus you
Speaker 5: know again, well we've got a whole sandworm segment where
Speaker 5: they're on the where they're on Jupiter, and here are
Speaker 5: the sandworms.
Speaker 2: That's okay, we've seen this before. Is this doing cgi
Speaker 2: sandworms doesn't help anything here? I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: When she gets there and she says, I must conquer
Speaker 1: the worm, I must conquer shi Halued, I was like,
Speaker 1: well that's a little hot. Doesn't that talk about walk
Speaker 1: without rhythm?
Speaker 2: Walk without rhythm? Sorry, this is the leson al Gayeb father.
Speaker 3: Yes, sorry, no, no, no, that's fine. You know, and
Speaker 3: to your point earlier, like that, you know, both Lydia
Speaker 3: and Astrid end up on Mars at a certain point
Speaker 3: with the sandworm, and then they come back and no
Speaker 3: time has changed at all, and like even a moment
Speaker 3: in that world gave you like a few hours of difference.
Speaker 3: So you know, where was that all about? And what
Speaker 3: I was saying was, I'm very curious to read the
Speaker 3: Seth Graham Smith version of this script, like the script
Speaker 3: that they almost made, that they kept almost making, and
Speaker 3: then Goff and Miller came in and rewrote it for.
Speaker 1: This was that Beatlejuice in Love?
Speaker 3: Well, look, Seth Graham Smith is still a credited writer
Speaker 3: on this movie. So, like I said, I'm curious where
Speaker 3: his o, what his draft was like before they rewrote it,
Speaker 3: because obviously there's enough of his left in it that
Speaker 3: they give him a credit.
Speaker 1: And here I was thinking when I saw Goff's name
Speaker 1: show up, I was just like, oh, he must be
Speaker 1: related to Michael Goff who was Alfred in those two
Speaker 1: Batman films. But no, he's not. This guy was born
Speaker 1: in Baltimore.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. These are the guys who did Wednesday
Speaker 3: and Smallville and the fucking one of those those Jackie
Speaker 3: Chan movies with the Old West Shower No, no, no, the
Speaker 3: Old West ones with Owen Wills.
Speaker 2: So Shanghai Noon and Shanghai Knight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they wrote those.
Speaker 2: Great films. Caf by Cinema Classics.
Speaker 3: Hand them Beetlejews.
Speaker 2: Yes, give Beetlejuice to these people, please.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, you know they could have given it to Freeberg
Speaker 2: and Seltzer, and they did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you for that.
Speaker 5: Anything else I'm going to talk about with Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice.
Speaker 1: Well, I want to think my co host Chris and
Speaker 1: Father Alone for joining me on this episode as we
Speaker 1: talk about beetle juice beetle Juice. But before we head out, Chris,
Speaker 1: what are you working on these days? Sir?
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Speaker 2: By You Mike, where can people find all yours stuff.
Speaker 1: As for me, everything that I do is also over
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