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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Sasquatch Theory. In this episode, I'm joined

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<v Speaker 1>by Dan from Michigan, who shares a series of unsettling

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<v Speaker 1>encounters that took place near his family's remote cabin in

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<v Speaker 1>the forest surrounding a state park. What began as a

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<v Speaker 1>peaceful place to fish, hunt and enjoy the outdoors slowly

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<v Speaker 1>became the setting for experiences that changed the way he

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<v Speaker 1>looked at the wilderness forever. Dan describes hearing a blood

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<v Speaker 1>curdling scream that shook his entire body while bow hunting.

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<v Speaker 1>He also witnessed a massive, reddish brown creature crossing the

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<v Speaker 1>road in broad daylight. Dan also recalls encountering an overwhelming

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<v Speaker 1>odor deep in the forest and the mysterious break in

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<v Speaker 1>at the family cabin. If you enjoy firsthand wilderness encounters

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<v Speaker 1>and unexplained stories from some of the North America's most

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<v Speaker 1>remote forests, I think you'll really enjoy this conversation. If

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<v Speaker 1>With all that being said, let's dive into Dan's bigfoot

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<v Speaker 1>encounters from the state of Michigan. All Right, Dan, welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to Sasquatch Theory. How are you doing today?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing great.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you doing excellent? It's an absolute pleasure to

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<v Speaker 1>have you on the show today, Dan, if you would

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<v Speaker 1>tell me a little bit about yourself, where you're from,

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<v Speaker 1>and your experiences from the very beginning, please okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I was born in Detroit, Michigan, and grew up

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<v Speaker 2>in the suburbs and lived there most of my life.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a cabin out in the woods about fourteen

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<v Speaker 2>miles northwest of Ascota, which is where I won't go

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<v Speaker 2>to with the story. I moved to North Carolina in

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<v Speaker 2>two thousand and two for work. But basically now, as

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<v Speaker 2>far as the property goes, we had a great grandmother

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<v Speaker 2>that was a school teacher near my Cato, Michigan, back

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<v Speaker 2>in the eighteen hundreds, and she purchased the forty acre

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<v Speaker 2>plot from a guy named mister Buele, who was a

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<v Speaker 2>huge landowner during the loggin industry back in those days.

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<v Speaker 2>She kept the property for her whole life, never did

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<v Speaker 2>anything with it, and she left it to her daughter

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<v Speaker 2>and her daughter and her husband who's my great at

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<v Speaker 2>and Alcole. They built a cabin there, completely unaccessible by

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<v Speaker 2>road at the time he had to take it was

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<v Speaker 2>a two track, and back when they built it, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they used to horse and buggy to get back in there.

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<v Speaker 2>But over the years it stayed in the family and

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<v Speaker 2>we gradually you know, built onto it and eventually got

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<v Speaker 2>electricity out there and stuff. But it's been a vacation

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<v Speaker 2>spot in our family for years. My father wasn't a hunter,

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<v Speaker 2>but my older brothers and I we developed curiosity for

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<v Speaker 2>hunting back in the late sixties ortly seventies, so we

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<v Speaker 2>started hunting out there. So that's just a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a history about the property itself. It's completely surrounded

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<v Speaker 2>by the Alcona I'm sorry, the Aasabol State Forest on

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<v Speaker 2>all four sides, which butts up to the here On

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<v Speaker 2>National Forest, so it's it's remote, very very remote. It

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<v Speaker 2>has a spring fed creek that goes right through the

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<v Speaker 2>which we used to drink out of, full of brook,

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<v Speaker 2>trout and beaver and deer and all kinds of game

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<v Speaker 2>out there, So anyhow'll get to the story. So late eighties,

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<v Speaker 2>in October, I went up there by myself to go

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<v Speaker 2>bow hunting. And one morning I got up real early,

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<v Speaker 2>about four am, made something to eat, put the camera on,

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<v Speaker 2>got ready, and I walked out the front door at

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<v Speaker 2>five AM. I wanted to get to my blind well

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<v Speaker 2>before light, so I walked out the front door and

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<v Speaker 2>around to the back of the cabin. That the blind

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<v Speaker 2>was about a quarter mile behind the cabin. And just

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<v Speaker 2>as soon as I walked around the corner, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I noticed it was pretty quiet, and you know, real

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<v Speaker 2>quiet morning. And I got around to the side of

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<v Speaker 2>the house and then all of a sudden, I heard

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<v Speaker 2>the most god awful scream I ever heard in my life.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean loud. It just froze me in my tracks,

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<v Speaker 2>and it sounded like a woman being brutally tortured or

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<v Speaker 2>murdered or whatever. It was just and it went on

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<v Speaker 2>for quite some time, and it was so loud that

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<v Speaker 2>it actually shook my whole body just vibrated, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I could just feel it just go right through me.

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<v Speaker 2>And my first instinct was was to get back in

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<v Speaker 2>the cabin. You know, I had no idea what that was.

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<v Speaker 2>In all the years of my life going up there,

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<v Speaker 2>I never ever ever heard anything like that. So I

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<v Speaker 2>went back in the cabin and I sat down with

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<v Speaker 2>my forty four magnum and I just waited for the

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<v Speaker 2>sun to come on. Now, that was pretty much my

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<v Speaker 2>first experience. But the same week I was up there

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<v Speaker 2>for a week and I was driving to town headed east.

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<v Speaker 2>The road that I was on ran east and west,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was headed east and it was just before sundown,

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<v Speaker 2>and I got just past this old abandoned farmhouse down

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<v Speaker 2>the road and I saw something come out of the ditch.

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<v Speaker 2>So I stopped my car and I'm marching it. That

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<v Speaker 2>was maybe, I don't know, between fifteen one hundred yards

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<v Speaker 2>away if that, And this thing came out of the

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<v Speaker 2>ditch right next to the mailbox and it was covered

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<v Speaker 2>in hair, and I'm looking at it stroll across the road.

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<v Speaker 2>It kind of glided across the road, didn't look at me,

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<v Speaker 2>didn't look at anything, and I'm thinking, what the heck

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<v Speaker 2>is you know? And you could see the hair hanging

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<v Speaker 2>off of it, and it's knees were as high as

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<v Speaker 2>the mailbox. So I thought, okay, whatever that means, It's huge,

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<v Speaker 2>and it walked, you know, across the road into the woods,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was pretty much it. You know, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>being from Michigan, this was back in the late eighties

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<v Speaker 2>and growing up, you never think about, you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>sasquatch being in the state of Michigan. I have never

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<v Speaker 2>ever even thought about it up until that point. So

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I was in kind of denial about it

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<v Speaker 2>for quite some time, because, you know, how could that be.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a Northwestern thing. This happens in you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Washington State, Canada, not here. So for years and years

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<v Speaker 2>I just kind of blocked it. And then one day

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<v Speaker 2>I finally just sat down and I thought, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I got. I gotta know what that was. So

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<v Speaker 2>I started doing research on animal screams in Michigan. Couldn't

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<v Speaker 2>find anything that came anywork close to it, especially with

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of volume. And you know, then I started

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<v Speaker 2>listening to some other stuff that people have recorded, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>different sasquatch sounds, and Okay, that sounds more like what

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<v Speaker 2>I heard. And so since then it's just been kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a thing for me just to try to find

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<v Speaker 2>out what's what's really out there. And I do know

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<v Speaker 2>that a few times walking down the road. Our mailbox

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<v Speaker 2>was a mile away from the cabin, so we had

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<v Speaker 2>to walk a mile down this dirt road, which was

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<v Speaker 2>our daily exercise. We could have driven down there, but

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<v Speaker 2>we chose to walk. And I remember a couple of times,

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<v Speaker 2>this is before this happened, smelling something awful. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>either side of the road was kind of a swampy,

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<v Speaker 2>dense wooded area, and I remember thinking, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>something must have died in there. You know, it smells terrible,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, I'm wondering now if that's what I smelled.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't know for sure, but I'm wondering

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<v Speaker 2>if that could have been in But anyhow, yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>was quick the experience, and I've never hunted, never went

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<v Speaker 2>bow hunting again, and I wouldn't go out in the

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<v Speaker 2>woods by myself again. And of course, trying to explain

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<v Speaker 2>to my brothers or my friends, I was just you know, whatever, man,

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<v Speaker 2>you were just hallucinating, blah blah blah. You know. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's been tough, and now pretty much that's it. And

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<v Speaker 2>the reason that I wanted to talk today is because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I have watched some of your podcasts and

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<v Speaker 2>for years, I've wondered if there's any other people in

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<v Speaker 2>Michigan or in that area that it had experiences like

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<v Speaker 2>I did. And I've heard a couple of guys on

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<v Speaker 2>your show talk about it, even the scream. The color

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<v Speaker 2>the one I saw was it was brown, but with

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<v Speaker 2>a sun hit that you can see red as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, and some of them are pretty close to

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<v Speaker 2>the same area that that I saw it in the

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the Assable River Valley, the Pine River area

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<v Speaker 2>out that way. So and that's pretty much it as

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<v Speaker 2>far is what the experience I had.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Dan, I appreciate you for sharing the details with me.

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<v Speaker 1>And just to be clear, the state forest is it

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<v Speaker 1>spelled au Sable State Forest? Is that the one?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? A U S A B L E.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, And that's pretty close that's part of the Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty close to Manistee Lake, north of Roscommon State

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<v Speaker 1>Forest area and kind of northeast of the Huron Manistee

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<v Speaker 1>National Forest. Is that correct?

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<v Speaker 2>It is? It borders the Huron Manistee National Forest. If

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<v Speaker 2>you were to walk through the property off the back

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<v Speaker 2>of the side, you would you would wind up in

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<v Speaker 2>the the Heuron National Forest and there's a river that

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<v Speaker 2>runs through there called the Pine River, which is it's

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<v Speaker 2>there are all tributaries to the Asabo River, and the

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<v Speaker 2>little creek that ran through our property, which was spring fed.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a tributary to the Pine River. So there

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<v Speaker 2>was plenty of opportunity to have plenty of food and

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<v Speaker 2>water and whatever they needed to survive down there. And

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<v Speaker 2>right behind the cabin maybe I don't know eighth of

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<v Speaker 2>a mile, there was a mammoth cedar swamp down there,

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<v Speaker 2>and I remember growing up that the locals would tell me,

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<v Speaker 2>don't go in that cedar swamp. You know, it's dangerous

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<v Speaker 2>and you could get lost or turned around, and we

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what's in there. So I never went in.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if they were referring to the

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<v Speaker 2>Sasquatch or if it was just, you know, truthfully, so

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<v Speaker 2>dense in there that you couldn't see.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is really interesting. When the creatures screamed at you,

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<v Speaker 1>was it close to the spring fed creek? By chance?

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<v Speaker 2>It was real close to it?

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<v Speaker 1>And what do you think it was trying to say?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know if I startled it. One theory

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<v Speaker 2>you had a guy on here a while ago. That

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<v Speaker 2>was a detective I think retired, and I do believe

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<v Speaker 2>I talked to him at one point, and his theory

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<v Speaker 2>was is that maybe I scared a mother, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>with a young one down by the creek, and that

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<v Speaker 2>she was just sending out a warning, you know, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>to a male that she was maybe in trouble or

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<v Speaker 2>a startled or whatever. But other than that, I have

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<v Speaker 2>no idea. Othertheless, I say, I startled it maybe or

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<v Speaker 2>it was just telling me, you know, don't come out here,

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever it was. Just but after hearing that screen,

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<v Speaker 2>there was no doubt I wasn't going out there, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's an excellent theory. And it was definitely startled

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<v Speaker 1>and communicating with the rest of the group that there's

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<v Speaker 1>a human in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Area, yeah, human armed, even though it was only just

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<v Speaker 2>a you know, compoumbo. But I said, I've seen bears

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<v Speaker 2>around there, I've seen every kind of animal there is,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've been going up there since, you know, nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>fifty eight when I was born, and I've never seen

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<v Speaker 2>or heard or anything like that. I used to have

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<v Speaker 2>hunting dogs. I'd go up there bird hunting all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>and never came across anything like that. So I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know if the dogs ever did. Of course they can't talk.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, that's one of the reasons one of

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<v Speaker 2>me is because he says, as much as we hunted

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<v Speaker 2>those lands over the years, you just think we've seen something.

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<v Speaker 2>And I said, yeah, well, you know, if we're out

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they wouldn't be elusive if everybody saw them every

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<v Speaker 1>time they were Oh yeah. And so when you encountered

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<v Speaker 1>the creature, how good of a look did you get?

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<v Speaker 2>Mean, when it was crossing the road, Yeah, I got

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<v Speaker 2>a great look at it. I didn't see its face

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<v Speaker 2>because it was walking across the road, but I did

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<v Speaker 2>see its profile, and I saw its head. It was

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<v Speaker 2>the reddish brown hair. And just so happened that I

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<v Speaker 2>knees or as egh as that mailbox.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting was this in the same timeframe that you heard

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<v Speaker 2>It was within a week. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Do you feel like maybe the sasquatch purposely revealed

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, man, I was driving my car at

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<v Speaker 2>the time, and it was probably a mile away from

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<v Speaker 2>the cabin when I walked across the road. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>there was nothing else out there, so it would have

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<v Speaker 2>to be pretty intelligent to think, Okay, well that's his

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<v Speaker 2>car and I'm gonna show myself to him right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I mean the way it was acted,

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<v Speaker 2>it looked like it just didn't even care I was there.

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<v Speaker 2>I just walked across the road back into the woods.

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<v Speaker 1>What time of day did it cross the road?

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<v Speaker 2>Just before sundown? So I'm guessing in October in Michigan.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure what time that would be, but the

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<v Speaker 2>sun wasn't completely down yet, and I could see, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the sun going down behind me, and it was between

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<v Speaker 2>me and the sun. So I'm guessing probably late in

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So it was possibly getting up from its betting

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<v Speaker 1>area and moving in the evening time in October to

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<v Speaker 1>either hunt join up with the rest of the clan,

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<v Speaker 1>or to revealed itself to you, to possibly say stay

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<v Speaker 1>the hell out of the woods.

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<v Speaker 2>Could have been yep, because the old abandoned farmer's field.

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<v Speaker 2>There was just it was full of you know, foliage,

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<v Speaker 2>so it could have very easily been bedding down in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So where was it coming from? And where was

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<v Speaker 1>it going to? From what you saw?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, it was headed south to north across, yeah, across

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<v Speaker 2>the road.

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<v Speaker 1>And was it coming from like dense forests and going

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<v Speaker 1>into like farmland or going towards a creek? How can

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<v Speaker 1>you describe the patterns?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, when it came out of a field and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>walked through the ditch across the road into the woods.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, interesting, would you say it was out in the

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<v Speaker 1>open in that field? Possibly?

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<v Speaker 2>If it was, I didn't notice it, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean. I mean I did not notice it until

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<v Speaker 2>it glanced in my rearview mirror and saw it coming

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<v Speaker 2>up out of the ditch. Yeah, and I immediately stopped

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<v Speaker 2>and just watch to see what that thing was. I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't sure what it was going to be until it,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, got out on the road and I saw

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<v Speaker 2>it for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>And how long did the entire encounter last?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? Maybe ten seconds?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow, that's a significant amount of time. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty cool. You got to see one how tall would

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<v Speaker 1>you say.

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<v Speaker 2>It was well gaging that the mailbox is probably what

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<v Speaker 2>four feet you think, Yeah, I'm gunsin probably at least

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<v Speaker 2>seven to eight feet tall.

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<v Speaker 1>And did you ever go back to look for tracks,

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<v Speaker 1>any tree structures or did it just kind of terrify

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<v Speaker 1>you to even think about the encounter?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it terrified me. I didn't think about anything. I

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<v Speaker 2>did not want to think about it. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>for a long time, it was just like it was

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<v Speaker 2>so out of the realm of you know, what I

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<v Speaker 2>knew and the possibilities that, you know, you almost questioned

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<v Speaker 2>your sanity. But a few years later, once I moved

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<v Speaker 2>out to North Carolina, I decided, you know, I need

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<v Speaker 2>to know, I really need to know what that was.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's when I started studying. I've watched all kinds

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff on it. Always been curious about Michigan. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>why did I see one there? And I did talk

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<v Speaker 2>to a guy that I worked with years ago. He

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<v Speaker 2>was retired military in Vietnam VET and him and I

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<v Speaker 2>were just having a coffee and I mentioned it to

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<v Speaker 2>him and he looked at me real serious, and he said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he says, my friend and I were deer

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<v Speaker 2>hunting up in Tawis City behind his cemetery up there,

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<v Speaker 2>and he said, we saw one And I said really,

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<v Speaker 2>and he says, yeah. We sat there and watched him

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<v Speaker 2>for like fifteen minutes. I said, no way, and he

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<v Speaker 2>swore by it. So that's what I thought, Well, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe they are a bunch of them up there. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's amazing. And have you heard any other encounters

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<v Speaker 1>or experiences from locals in the area or other family members.

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<v Speaker 2>No, my family members have not had any experience as

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<v Speaker 2>far as the locals go. I knew one couple that

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<v Speaker 2>lived in the old school house that my grandmother used

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<v Speaker 2>to teach and they converted into a home and they

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<v Speaker 2>live right on the edge of the forest there, and

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<v Speaker 2>he grew up there and he said he's never seen one.

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<v Speaker 2>He says he's heard stuff that he couldn't explain, but

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<v Speaker 2>he's never seen one. So but that's a huge, huge,

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<v Speaker 2>huge tract of land back in there. And I truly

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<v Speaker 2>believe that if they if they don't want to be seen,

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<v Speaker 2>they're not going to be seen. You know. That's why

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<v Speaker 2>people have such a hard time tracking them down, is

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<v Speaker 2>because they're so loosive. They know how to hide.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, And how did this encounter change your perception

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<v Speaker 1>of the world around us and biology?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think there's a lot of things out there

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<v Speaker 2>that we don't recognize or understand. I'm not you know.

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<v Speaker 2>My best guess as far as what this creature is

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<v Speaker 2>is probably a descendant of jug Anipithecus. And I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>you've probably heard that before. It's the only thing that

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<v Speaker 2>in my mind makes sense. You know that something came

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<v Speaker 2>across the Bearing Straits thousands of years ago has just

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<v Speaker 2>slowly moved through the through the country. But then again,

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<v Speaker 2>you have them just about every continent in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>They had sightings so and I know the silver Back

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<v Speaker 2>Guerrilla it took them years to prove that it existed too.

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<v Speaker 2>For years people said that was just a myth. But

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<v Speaker 2>I do believe that maybe, and I hate to sound

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<v Speaker 2>like a conspiracy theorist, but I think maybe that if

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<v Speaker 2>the government does know that the creature exists, what's I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of think they do. I think the reason they

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<v Speaker 2>probably have several reasons for not letting us know. My

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<v Speaker 2>biggest theory, and I'm sure you've heard this one too,

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<v Speaker 2>is probably the logging industry. That's a multi billion dollar industry,

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<v Speaker 2>and if they were to acknowledge the existence of this creature,

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<v Speaker 2>it would mean probably shutting down, you know, millions of

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<v Speaker 2>acres to protect the habitat. And I'm sure they don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to do that. They don't have to. I have

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<v Speaker 2>a friend that is a owns his own logging company

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<v Speaker 2>in upstate New York, and I was just talking to

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<v Speaker 2>him one day about it. I said, you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>ever see anything on in wood's like a big foot

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<v Speaker 2>or sasquatch or anything. And he just looked at me

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<v Speaker 2>and he says, well, all I'm going to tell you

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<v Speaker 2>is he says, there's things out in these woods that

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<v Speaker 2>would blow your mind. And he wouldn't. He would not

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<v Speaker 2>confer more deny that. You know, he has other seat

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<v Speaker 2>in sasquatch or believes they're there.

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<v Speaker 1>So no, yeah, for sure, no doubt the government knows

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<v Speaker 1>about the existence of sasquatch. I mean the military. They're

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<v Speaker 1>out there with night vision goggles, they have thermal satellites

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<v Speaker 1>in space, and if a simple bow hunter can discover

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<v Speaker 1>these creatures exist out in the woods, no doubt they

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<v Speaker 1>know about it. They're the owners of national for rist,

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<v Speaker 1>federal land, and all the state for us SO.

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<v Speaker 2>And they even have areas out. Yeah, they have areas

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<v Speaker 2>out in Washington State where you're not even allowed to

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<v Speaker 2>go in. H Yeah, shut off to the public. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, what's that tell you? Why can't you go

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<v Speaker 2>in there? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>For sure. And I think that's an excellent theory about

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<v Speaker 1>sasquatch being her descendant of Gigantopithecus, And it could be

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<v Speaker 1>possible Gigantopithecus is a sasquatch and they're just calling it

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<v Speaker 1>a different name because people always ask where's the bones?

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<v Speaker 1>That could be it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and they might be smart enough to know not

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<v Speaker 2>to leave them around. And you know, I watched a

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<v Speaker 2>show one time where they took a deer carcass. This

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<v Speaker 2>was a sasquatch show, and they had a fresh killed

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<v Speaker 2>deer carcass and they staked to the ground, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>with wires and everything so it couldn't move, and they

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<v Speaker 2>put a camera next to it, and within two weeks

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<v Speaker 2>that thing was completely gone, I mean bones and everything,

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<v Speaker 2>because of the bugs and the different things in the

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<v Speaker 2>forest that will eat you know, dead flesh.

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<v Speaker 1>So the cassalization process is super rare. And most of

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<v Speaker 1>the dinosaurs we see in museums. That's not really what

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<v Speaker 1>they look like. That's kind of what they constructed by

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<v Speaker 1>the bone fragments that they discovered. And it's the same

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<v Speaker 1>way with Gyganthropithecus. They only have a piece of the

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<v Speaker 1>jawbone and a few teeth and they kind of painted

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<v Speaker 1>the whole picture and all of a sudden they know

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<v Speaker 1>what at a where it slept, and everything about its

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<v Speaker 1>life somehow.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and you know the thing with the two is

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<v Speaker 2>that they've they've got this thing called EDA now you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the environmental oh DNA, and they have found stuff on

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<v Speaker 2>several different places where they've they've found DNA that's it's

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<v Speaker 2>not human. It's almost human, but it's not chimpanzee or gorilla,

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<v Speaker 2>and they just don't know what it is. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 2>what is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Then?

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<v Speaker 2>You know? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>That is interesting is that where they take a water

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<v Speaker 1>sample and they can tell the animal that's been in

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<v Speaker 1>the water.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, Yeah, they do that. And they can actually take

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<v Speaker 2>soil samples and other kinds of samples too, of areas

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<v Speaker 2>you know, where they suspect there might be different creatures. So,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the proof is kind of out there, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think that doctor Jeff Melvern. He was the one

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<v Speaker 2>that did all the footcasts. I think he just passed

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<v Speaker 2>away recently. I'm not sure. He was talking about the

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<v Speaker 2>dermal ridges and stuff on some of these footcasts, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I watched one one time where he brought

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<v Speaker 2>a guy in that was that was his specialty, was

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<v Speaker 2>fingerprints and dermal ridges and stuff, and he said that

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<v Speaker 2>they're not fake. You can't fake that. So that was interesting.

419
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<v Speaker 2>I think that's kind of a proof of their existence too.

420
00:26:01.440 --> 00:26:03.319
<v Speaker 2>But I guess I get it to unless you see

421
00:26:03.359 --> 00:26:06.519
<v Speaker 2>when a lot of people aren't going to believe you.

422
00:26:06.680 --> 00:26:10.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's definitely hard to believe. And people who have

423
00:26:11.000 --> 00:26:13.960
<v Speaker 1>these encounters are blown away and they can't even believe

424
00:26:14.000 --> 00:26:17.319
<v Speaker 1>they encounter the creature. I mean, it's that unbelievable. It's

425
00:26:17.319 --> 00:26:19.160
<v Speaker 1>something that will blow your mind if you see it.

426
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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, I appreciate you doing these podcasts with

427
00:26:23.599 --> 00:26:28.480
<v Speaker 2>people from you know, Michigan. It really helped me a

428
00:26:28.480 --> 00:26:30.799
<v Speaker 2>lot knowing that I was not the only one that

429
00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:34.319
<v Speaker 2>had an experience in that particular area.

430
00:26:36.240 --> 00:26:39.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're you're in North Carolina now, and there's a

431
00:26:39.759 --> 00:26:42.119
<v Speaker 1>lot of bigfoot reports from there. I live in the

432
00:26:42.119 --> 00:26:44.839
<v Speaker 1>Ozarks here in Missouri. There's a ton of Bigfoot reports.

433
00:26:44.839 --> 00:26:47.240
<v Speaker 1>So being up there in Michigan by the Canadian border

434
00:26:47.240 --> 00:26:51.000
<v Speaker 1>in the Great Lakes, no doubt these things. They're up

435
00:26:51.000 --> 00:26:53.599
<v Speaker 1>there for sure. I mean, there's so much worlds by

436
00:26:53.640 --> 00:26:57.480
<v Speaker 1>the by in Canada, you're by the border, so I mean,

437
00:26:57.519 --> 00:27:00.200
<v Speaker 1>if anything, you should be having more experiences than me

438
00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:01.240
<v Speaker 1>down here in Missouri.

439
00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:08.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean Michigan is a lot of people are

440
00:27:08.240 --> 00:27:13.759
<v Speaker 2>deceived by you know, how big the state is, and

441
00:27:13.920 --> 00:27:16.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, like my friends down here, they say, oh,

442
00:27:16.079 --> 00:27:18.799
<v Speaker 2>that place is a ghetto Detroit and Flint. No it's

443
00:27:18.839 --> 00:27:21.680
<v Speaker 2>not really. Once you get past that part of the state,

444
00:27:21.720 --> 00:27:25.880
<v Speaker 2>it's nothing, but you know, forests and wilderness and lakes

445
00:27:25.880 --> 00:27:27.119
<v Speaker 2>and streams. It's gorgeous.

446
00:27:29.839 --> 00:27:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, what is the Sasquatch? They follow the waterways

447
00:27:35.039 --> 00:27:38.200
<v Speaker 1>and when you're in Michigan or Minnesota, there's a ton

448
00:27:38.240 --> 00:27:40.279
<v Speaker 1>of a ton of water there. So that would be

449
00:27:40.359 --> 00:27:43.559
<v Speaker 1>an ideal place for an elusive creature to exist.

450
00:27:44.759 --> 00:27:47.000
<v Speaker 2>Right, And I thought about that with that spring thick

451
00:27:47.079 --> 00:27:49.920
<v Speaker 2>creek that we had running through the property there. We

452
00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:53.160
<v Speaker 2>were the first house, probably the only house on that

453
00:27:53.200 --> 00:27:55.839
<v Speaker 2>spring thig creek, and it was probably fifteen feet wide,

454
00:27:56.680 --> 00:27:58.359
<v Speaker 2>about four feet deep and you could see to the

455
00:27:58.400 --> 00:28:04.559
<v Speaker 2>bottom loaded with brick trout and a great place for

456
00:28:05.000 --> 00:28:07.160
<v Speaker 2>cedar trees growing all around it. It was like, you know,

457
00:28:08.200 --> 00:28:11.839
<v Speaker 2>a great place for something to hunt and fish and

458
00:28:11.880 --> 00:28:17.640
<v Speaker 2>have fresh water source. I'm pretty sure that was probably

459
00:28:17.680 --> 00:28:20.079
<v Speaker 2>a big attraction. And probably about a mile and a

460
00:28:20.160 --> 00:28:26.039
<v Speaker 2>half is the pro flies from there headed east north northeast.

461
00:28:26.119 --> 00:28:30.039
<v Speaker 2>Was a farm, a huge farm, so they had plenty

462
00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:32.200
<v Speaker 2>of you know, corn and different stuff out there for

463
00:28:32.440 --> 00:28:35.319
<v Speaker 2>the cattle deer.

464
00:28:38.119 --> 00:28:41.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it blows my mind that people have been put

465
00:28:41.960 --> 00:28:46.599
<v Speaker 1>put away, put in prison for hardly no evidence or

466
00:28:46.799 --> 00:28:49.240
<v Speaker 1>zero evidence at all that they committed a crime. But

467
00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:52.240
<v Speaker 1>with sasquatch like you were saying earlier that Jeff Meldrum

468
00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:55.960
<v Speaker 1>had these tracks, they had dermal ridges, and there's all

469
00:28:56.039 --> 00:28:59.519
<v Speaker 1>the reports out there, so many eyewitnesses seen these things.

470
00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:04.400
<v Speaker 1>There's been video footage, trailcam footage of them, and just

471
00:29:04.920 --> 00:29:08.680
<v Speaker 1>all kinds of evidence shown that they do exist. Yet

472
00:29:08.920 --> 00:29:12.279
<v Speaker 1>the people don't believe. People are so skeptical. I wonder

473
00:29:12.319 --> 00:29:13.000
<v Speaker 1>why that is.

474
00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:18.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I think they just maybe it's the

475
00:29:18.519 --> 00:29:23.559
<v Speaker 2>fear of the unknown. You know. I probably would have

476
00:29:23.559 --> 00:29:25.519
<v Speaker 2>been one of those skeptics. Too up to that point.

477
00:29:25.599 --> 00:29:28.079
<v Speaker 2>In fact, before this happened to me, if you just said, yeah,

478
00:29:28.119 --> 00:29:32.440
<v Speaker 2>I saw a big foot by your cabin, I haven't laughed, okay,

479
00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:37.559
<v Speaker 2>you know, And there was one thing I wanted to mention.

480
00:29:40.839 --> 00:29:44.000
<v Speaker 2>I went up there several years later after this incident,

481
00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:48.480
<v Speaker 2>and the cabin had been sitting empty for a few months.

482
00:29:48.519 --> 00:29:50.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's just a place we would go. It

483
00:29:50.640 --> 00:29:55.039
<v Speaker 2>wasn't lived in all the time. We had a breezeway

484
00:29:55.039 --> 00:29:56.720
<v Speaker 2>that went from the main cabin back to like a

485
00:29:56.720 --> 00:30:01.119
<v Speaker 2>little guest house, and it was probably seventy eighty feet long.

486
00:30:02.240 --> 00:30:06.960
<v Speaker 2>And something had broken into the breezeway and just trashed

487
00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:10.079
<v Speaker 2>the hell out of it. I mean just tore it

488
00:30:10.160 --> 00:30:14.759
<v Speaker 2>up and went through a screen. And it could have

489
00:30:14.759 --> 00:30:17.880
<v Speaker 2>been a bear, you know, very well could have been

490
00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:22.680
<v Speaker 2>that's what everyone said, but you know, after thinking about it,

491
00:30:22.680 --> 00:30:23.839
<v Speaker 2>it could have been something else.

492
00:30:24.200 --> 00:30:30.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, yeah, I think that's very possible. Jeff Meldrum

493
00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:33.720
<v Speaker 1>was on the show Mons Request, and he went to

494
00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:39.240
<v Speaker 1>an area in Canada and the nearest house or road

495
00:30:39.359 --> 00:30:44.519
<v Speaker 1>was one hundred miles away, but the property owner was

496
00:30:44.799 --> 00:30:48.039
<v Speaker 1>claiming that something was breaking into the cabin and they

497
00:30:48.160 --> 00:30:52.920
<v Speaker 1>had I don't know their version of forest rangers there

498
00:30:52.960 --> 00:30:56.039
<v Speaker 1>and they said whatever did this was not a bear,

499
00:30:56.400 --> 00:30:59.079
<v Speaker 1>and they believe it was sasquatch.

500
00:31:00.359 --> 00:31:02.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think I saw that one is that's

501
00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:04.960
<v Speaker 2>the one where they put the nailboard outside the door

502
00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:05.640
<v Speaker 2>when they left.

503
00:31:05.920 --> 00:31:07.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they got the blood and the chunk of meat,

504
00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:10.920
<v Speaker 1>and it looked like it was like a giant human

505
00:31:10.960 --> 00:31:15.640
<v Speaker 1>foot that stepped on that screw. Yeah. The DNA came

506
00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:20.000
<v Speaker 1>back as unknown and they had chimpanzee DNA. And you're

507
00:31:20.039 --> 00:31:22.799
<v Speaker 1>in Canada. Why would anything have chimp DNA.

508
00:31:23.480 --> 00:31:25.440
<v Speaker 2>Especially one hundred miles from the next house.

509
00:31:26.640 --> 00:31:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

510
00:31:28.240 --> 00:31:29.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Well this place is pretty far out in the

511
00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:33.200
<v Speaker 2>middle of nowhere too. And like I said, probably some

512
00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:38.680
<v Speaker 2>of your listeners are familiar with OSKTA, and the area

513
00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:43.680
<v Speaker 2>I went to is about fourteen miles northwest out in

514
00:31:43.720 --> 00:31:46.359
<v Speaker 2>that area. And like I said, I don't want to

515
00:31:46.359 --> 00:31:48.680
<v Speaker 2>say the road or the address because the guy that

516
00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:52.599
<v Speaker 2>he bought the place ROMs and O two and he

517
00:31:52.640 --> 00:31:56.519
<v Speaker 2>lives there full time, and you know, I know he

518
00:31:56.559 --> 00:31:58.640
<v Speaker 2>bought it just to be alone and be at peace

519
00:31:58.680 --> 00:32:00.559
<v Speaker 2>out there. So I don't want to have a bunch

520
00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:01.599
<v Speaker 2>of people going out there.

521
00:32:02.599 --> 00:32:07.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's completely understandable. And it's terrifying to think that

522
00:32:07.599 --> 00:32:10.359
<v Speaker 1>possibly a sasquatch was either in your house or in

523
00:32:10.400 --> 00:32:12.559
<v Speaker 1>the chicken coop, or was getting in your barn. I

524
00:32:12.599 --> 00:32:14.640
<v Speaker 1>get a lot of reports like that where people claim

525
00:32:14.680 --> 00:32:17.680
<v Speaker 1>they get inside their buildings.

526
00:32:18.240 --> 00:32:20.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I'll tell you there's been many, many times

527
00:32:20.839 --> 00:32:26.119
<v Speaker 2>over the years, even before this happened, and where I've

528
00:32:26.119 --> 00:32:29.000
<v Speaker 2>been up there, and you know, the whole place it

529
00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:32.400
<v Speaker 2>says a cedar cabinet was beautiful. I had windows all

530
00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:34.599
<v Speaker 2>the way around it. I can't tell you how many

531
00:32:34.599 --> 00:32:37.960
<v Speaker 2>times I felt like I was being watched, you know,

532
00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:42.640
<v Speaker 2>just get this creepy feeling that Wow, you know something's

533
00:32:42.720 --> 00:32:45.079
<v Speaker 2>watching me. And I don't know that they were. It

534
00:32:45.200 --> 00:32:49.200
<v Speaker 2>just it was a feeling I had, Especially after hearing

535
00:32:49.240 --> 00:32:51.680
<v Speaker 2>the screen that time and seeing it on the road,

536
00:32:51.720 --> 00:32:54.160
<v Speaker 2>I thought, Okay, maybe they are watching.

537
00:32:57.200 --> 00:33:00.279
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, they're always watching for sure. Do you ever

538
00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:03.759
<v Speaker 1>get out in the woods there in North Carolina to

539
00:33:03.759 --> 00:33:07.079
<v Speaker 1>look for any evidence or anything.

540
00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:10.799
<v Speaker 2>Well, the woods here are a lot different than they

541
00:33:10.799 --> 00:33:14.799
<v Speaker 2>are up north. I can tell you that I've had

542
00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:17.960
<v Speaker 2>criticism for my friends in Michigan because the guys down

543
00:33:18.000 --> 00:33:22.440
<v Speaker 2>here use dogs to hunt deer, and the reason being

544
00:33:22.839 --> 00:33:26.279
<v Speaker 2>it's not because they're lazier. They don't. You know, the

545
00:33:26.319 --> 00:33:30.000
<v Speaker 2>woods here are so dense, you know, there's no way

546
00:33:30.039 --> 00:33:31.799
<v Speaker 2>to walk through them. That's why they start a dog

547
00:33:31.839 --> 00:33:33.839
<v Speaker 2>and never flush the deer out to them. It's very

548
00:33:33.880 --> 00:33:37.559
<v Speaker 2>dense forth here. No.

549
00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:40.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, with thickets you can't see two feet in front

550
00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:42.000
<v Speaker 1>of you.

551
00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:44.880
<v Speaker 2>No. I think that a lot of the sites that

552
00:33:45.480 --> 00:33:47.039
<v Speaker 2>a lot of the sightings that they've had in this

553
00:33:47.119 --> 00:33:49.839
<v Speaker 2>state are in the Hurry. I guess you would call.

554
00:33:49.720 --> 00:33:53.039
<v Speaker 1>It you you w h National Forest.

555
00:33:53.119 --> 00:33:57.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, u AI National for us, which is about I'm

556
00:33:57.839 --> 00:34:00.799
<v Speaker 2>guessing about two and a half hours west where I'm at,

557
00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:03.519
<v Speaker 2>and I have I've got one friend that is willing

558
00:34:03.559 --> 00:34:05.480
<v Speaker 2>to go out there camping with me. So I think

559
00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:07.759
<v Speaker 2>we're going to one of these days when the weather

560
00:34:07.799 --> 00:34:11.119
<v Speaker 2>cools down a little bit, maybe November or something, will

561
00:34:11.159 --> 00:34:14.360
<v Speaker 2>head out there and spend a weekend just you know,

562
00:34:14.360 --> 00:34:18.519
<v Speaker 2>I'll see what happens. If anything, I'm not going to

563
00:34:18.559 --> 00:34:20.639
<v Speaker 2>walk around pounding our trees or scream and I just

564
00:34:20.679 --> 00:34:24.639
<v Speaker 2>want to see if, if anything, what comes to check

565
00:34:24.719 --> 00:34:25.519
<v Speaker 2>us out.

566
00:34:26.679 --> 00:34:29.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, for sure. Keep an eye out for tree structures.

567
00:34:29.440 --> 00:34:31.239
<v Speaker 1>Those things are all over the Carolinas.

568
00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:34.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I guess up in the mountains, they've been

569
00:34:34.519 --> 00:34:37.480
<v Speaker 2>around for a long long time. It's just kind of

570
00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:39.360
<v Speaker 2>like like the Indians, you know, the people in the

571
00:34:39.360 --> 00:34:41.360
<v Speaker 2>mountains here there just say yeah, you know, that's not

572
00:34:41.440 --> 00:34:43.519
<v Speaker 2>even if they exist, it's that they do.

573
00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:48.719
<v Speaker 1>Is there any other experiences that you've had throughout your life,

574
00:34:48.800 --> 00:34:53.960
<v Speaker 1>anything strange, paranormal and explained, any anything strange that you

575
00:34:54.000 --> 00:34:57.880
<v Speaker 1>feel might be connected to the phenomenon, whether it's tied

576
00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:02.119
<v Speaker 1>in with the sasquatch, whether it's another cryptid or even

577
00:35:02.159 --> 00:35:04.880
<v Speaker 1>on the WU side. Can you recall anything strange?

578
00:35:05.960 --> 00:35:10.400
<v Speaker 2>Not really, you know, I'm not a big believer in

579
00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:17.360
<v Speaker 2>the in uh the UFO thing. I mean, it could be,

580
00:35:18.199 --> 00:35:20.440
<v Speaker 2>but I'm not a big believer in that. I tend

581
00:35:20.440 --> 00:35:25.480
<v Speaker 2>to believe that it's just a regular animal, you know,

582
00:35:25.559 --> 00:35:27.440
<v Speaker 2>a dog man too. I have a hard time with

583
00:35:27.480 --> 00:35:29.679
<v Speaker 2>that one in the in the what's another one starts

584
00:35:29.719 --> 00:35:31.239
<v Speaker 2>to w h.

585
00:35:32.880 --> 00:35:33.239
<v Speaker 1>When to go?

586
00:35:34.119 --> 00:35:36.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the wind to go? I have a you know,

587
00:35:36.639 --> 00:35:38.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean I have a hard time with some of

588
00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:44.599
<v Speaker 2>that stuff. So, you know, really, as far as paranormal stuff, now,

589
00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:50.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm not one of those people. Of course. My my father,

590
00:35:51.360 --> 00:35:53.440
<v Speaker 2>uh he lived about five miles from here. This is

591
00:35:53.480 --> 00:35:56.920
<v Speaker 2>an old Civil War battleground area, and he he claims

592
00:35:56.960 --> 00:36:00.199
<v Speaker 2>to have seen some stuff. He was a world were

593
00:36:00.199 --> 00:36:02.639
<v Speaker 2>two veterans, so those guys, you know, they don't usually

594
00:36:02.679 --> 00:36:06.880
<v Speaker 2>bs about stuff. But he was also in his eighties

595
00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:08.519
<v Speaker 2>at the time, so I just kind of and there

596
00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:10.960
<v Speaker 2>was no way for me to verify anything of anything

597
00:36:11.000 --> 00:36:12.199
<v Speaker 2>that he said he saw.

598
00:36:12.320 --> 00:36:16.199
<v Speaker 1>So what did he say he saw exactly?

599
00:36:17.119 --> 00:36:20.360
<v Speaker 2>M hm. Well, they had a condominium that was built

600
00:36:20.559 --> 00:36:25.320
<v Speaker 2>on top of an old plantation that was there back

601
00:36:25.400 --> 00:36:31.280
<v Speaker 2>during the war, and the Union soldiers were camped there

602
00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:34.719
<v Speaker 2>for quite some time before they invaded Fort Fisher, which

603
00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:38.239
<v Speaker 2>was the last open port of the Civil War. And

604
00:36:38.280 --> 00:36:44.679
<v Speaker 2>he claims to have seen a woman in a woman

605
00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:49.880
<v Speaker 2>in uh that era clothing two or three times, and

606
00:36:49.920 --> 00:36:53.880
<v Speaker 2>he saw a great, big black guy too, uh dressed

607
00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:59.840
<v Speaker 2>in like really nice suit. So I mean, you know,

608
00:36:59.880 --> 00:37:01.760
<v Speaker 2>and I did do some research for him. There was

609
00:37:01.800 --> 00:37:05.480
<v Speaker 2>a plantation there and a lot of them were buried

610
00:37:05.519 --> 00:37:07.400
<v Speaker 2>on that property. So as far as I know, that

611
00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:09.639
<v Speaker 2>kindle could have been built on top of the cemetery.

612
00:37:09.679 --> 00:37:11.480
<v Speaker 2>Who knows.

613
00:37:12.039 --> 00:37:18.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I think it's very possible. All right, Dan,

614
00:37:18.599 --> 00:37:22.559
<v Speaker 1>you did an excellent job describing your experiences. Do you

615
00:37:22.599 --> 00:37:25.039
<v Speaker 1>have any questions for me or anything else that you'd

616
00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:26.320
<v Speaker 1>like to mention for the viewers.

617
00:37:28.079 --> 00:37:31.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, keep an open mind, that's all I can say.

618
00:37:33.480 --> 00:37:36.440
<v Speaker 2>You know, don't be afraid to share your stories because

619
00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:39.559
<v Speaker 2>the more you share them, the better you feel it feel.

620
00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:44.639
<v Speaker 2>And I know that everybody that's that shared their story

621
00:37:44.679 --> 00:37:50.679
<v Speaker 2>has faced some ridicule and just you know, suck it up.

622
00:37:50.719 --> 00:37:53.519
<v Speaker 2>You know what you saw. I know what I saw,

623
00:37:55.519 --> 00:37:57.320
<v Speaker 2>so and I would ask you that you had an

624
00:37:57.400 --> 00:37:58.320
<v Speaker 2>experience as well.

625
00:37:59.000 --> 00:38:01.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've had a lot of experiences.

626
00:38:02.440 --> 00:38:05.639
<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well you must know where to go there, how

627
00:38:05.679 --> 00:38:06.280
<v Speaker 2>to find them?

628
00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:10.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that or they find me. It's hard to say, really,

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<v Speaker 1>but they are out there. They do exist, and I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate the message for the people who don't believe and

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<v Speaker 1>people that have encountered these things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, yep, they are true. They are truly there.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely. All right, Dan, I'm gonna let you go for now,

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<v Speaker 1>and I appreciate your time today. If you encounter anything

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<v Speaker 1>in the future, feel free to reach out.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. I appreciate your man.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, you take care of yourself, all right. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to thank Dan for having the courage to come

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<v Speaker 1>on the channel. And share his experiences with everyone. Whether

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<v Speaker 1>you've had similar encounters yourself, or you're simply interested in

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<v Speaker 1>the mystery surrounding these forests, stories like Dan's remind us

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<v Speaker 1>just how much of the wilderness remains unexplained. If you've

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<v Speaker 1>encountered something unusual while hunting, fishing, camping, or hiking anywhere

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<v Speaker 1>in North America and would like to share your story,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd love to hear from you. You can reach me

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<v Speaker 1>at Sasquatch Theory at outlook dot com. If you made

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<v Speaker 1>it this far comment I believe in Bigfoot and that

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<v Speaker 1>lets me know that you listen to the entire podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>If you would like to help support the channel, you

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<v Speaker 1>you guys would like to help with that, I would

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<v Speaker 1>really appreciate it. I just simply can't afford all the

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<v Speaker 1>year to do a real Bigfoot research, so none of

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<v Speaker 1>this would be possible without you guys. But if you can't,

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<v Speaker 1>I completely understand you. Guys, watching these videos is enough,

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<v Speaker 1>so don't feel obligated to send me anything. With all

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<v Speaker 1>that being said, I appreciate everyone for listening today and

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<v Speaker 1>until the next one. You guys be safe out in

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<v Speaker 1>the woods.