1 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,559 Speaker 1: What is going on? Clippers fans? Welcome to season three, 2 00:00:16,679 --> 00:00:20,920 episode sixty three of Clips in dimp. The series is tied. 3 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,640 We are back coming at you ahead of Game three. 4 00:00:24,719 --> 00:00:27,120 It is one to one clips in five for some 5 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,440 still very much alive. I'm not sure I'm attaching myself 6 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,359 to that train yet, but I am Chuck Wackler, joined 7 00:00:33,359 --> 00:00:36,719 by Adam Oson and William Updike. Thanks for hanging out 8 00:00:36,759 --> 00:00:38,560 with us. If you're listening to us and you'd like 9 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:40,799 to watch us talk about the Clippers or hangout on 10 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:42,880 one of our happy hour streams, you can find us 11 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,000 at YouTube dot com slash at Clippers Podcast. But no 12 00:00:46,039 --> 00:00:48,600 matter what, thank you for hanging out. We're gonna be 13 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,520 talking Game three. I think that's pretty obvious what the 14 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:54,439 Clippers need to do, what they shouldn't be doing. But 15 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:58,560 before we get into that, fellas just some stats through 16 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,759 two games of Clippers Nuggets points, Clippers two hundred and fifteen, 17 00:01:03,119 --> 00:01:07,359 Nuggets two hundred and fourteen, turnovers Clippers thirty one, Denver 18 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,239 thirty one. Each team lost the game where their star 19 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,879 player turned the ball over seven times. How are we feeling? 20 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,680 Is this as close as we expected? Adam? You haven't 21 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,120 been able to speak on this series very much over 22 00:01:20,159 --> 00:01:22,400 the past week, so we'll give the floor to you first. 23 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,200 How are you feeling heading into Game three? 24 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,359 Speaker 2: Ah, they put the muzzle on me. Finally, I said 25 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,439 no more even talking too much about these Clippers on 26 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:39,879 this Clippers talk show. Yeah, it's I think Will's put 27 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,640 it best. It's been a stressful first couple of games 28 00:01:43,159 --> 00:01:45,799 when you see the razor thin margins like that, and 29 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,319 especially even in Game one where they're led by as 30 00:01:48,359 --> 00:01:50,959 many as fifteen, it still came down to an overtime 31 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,719 and still came down to some really crucial, high leveraged moments. 32 00:01:57,359 --> 00:02:01,519 I don't think I'll say this. I think the Nuggets 33 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,560 have been closer to playing their best than the Clippers have, 34 00:02:04,719 --> 00:02:08,520 maybe so far. Now Yokis can still reach another level. 35 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:13,199 But the stuff Russ has been doing has been really 36 00:02:13,199 --> 00:02:18,080 big for them. Aaron Gordon having twenty five and more 37 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:23,240 than Kawhi Leonard in Game one, and his defense, the rebounding. 38 00:02:24,719 --> 00:02:26,879 I think there is a lot that Clippers can prove 39 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,240 on and can improve on, especially if a couple of 40 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,680 guys find their shot, and I'm sure we'll get into 41 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:32,199 that at some point. 42 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 1: Yes, we will be talking about those fine Clippers gentlemen. 43 00:02:36,719 --> 00:02:40,800 Will how are you feeling so far on the eve 44 00:02:40,879 --> 00:02:41,719 of Game three? 45 00:02:42,039 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 3: Not good, man, not good? Not down on the clips. 46 00:02:45,879 --> 00:02:48,400 It's just been a lot of anxiety. It's I mean, 47 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,000 it's like signing up to have a fucking two and 48 00:02:51,039 --> 00:02:54,439 a half hour long heart attack every couple of days, 49 00:02:54,439 --> 00:02:58,000 which is not ideal. Man, It's not ideal. And you know, 50 00:02:58,439 --> 00:03:00,439 the way the Clippers were playing, the way to rolling 51 00:03:00,479 --> 00:03:03,080 coming into this break, I was definitely an overly confident 52 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:04,919 in what this would look like. I mean, it was 53 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,520 definitely gonna be a close series. I wasn't a Clippers 54 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,360 in five as much as I would have liked to 55 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,560 have been on that train when it's inevitably proven, right, 56 00:03:12,879 --> 00:03:16,479 But uh, you know, like this, this this series was 57 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,240 going to be a challenge, and I like what Adam 58 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,360 is saying that we've seen one team seemingly closer to 59 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,759 their peak than the other one. And regardless, even with 60 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:27,759 the series tied up, I mean, it's been incredibly close. 61 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:29,520 The Clippers are right there. I have no reason to 62 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,840 doubt that they can get out of this series. It 63 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,560 is just not going to be like comfortable. It's just 64 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,719 not gonna be comfortably, I guess, and that's fine. Like, 65 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:38,360 you know, a lot of pundits had this as like 66 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,360 the most exciting series of the first round, and I 67 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:41,639 would say, asn't disappointment. 68 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, those those NBA TV viewers are going to 69 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:50,840 be hyped tomorrow for for Clippers Nuggets. Before we get 70 00:03:50,879 --> 00:03:55,000 into the nitty gritty of on court talk, there are 71 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:59,439 some comments made today by the Nuggets head coach, a 72 00:03:59,479 --> 00:04:02,159 style of comment that I've never understood why you would 73 00:04:02,199 --> 00:04:06,599 even entertain. But he basically said. He said that, uh, 74 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:09,000 it may have been a little misconstrued, but we know 75 00:04:09,039 --> 00:04:13,240 how the internet works. He said that noise was pumped in. 76 00:04:13,439 --> 00:04:15,879 He said, it's very loud, you know, and into it 77 00:04:15,919 --> 00:04:18,720 because they pump the noise. Some people took that to 78 00:04:18,759 --> 00:04:21,759 mean fake crowd noise. Others took to me and just 79 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:26,480 noise in general. I never understand when a place is 80 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,439 loud and an opposing coach or player is like, doesn't 81 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,680 sum that loud to me? Because it's all it does 82 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,040 one thing, which is make everyone true louder. But I 83 00:04:36,079 --> 00:04:39,639 was already excited for into it tomorrow night. This added 84 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,399 I think La Murray said it bulletin board material for 85 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,240 an arena makes this very exciting. 86 00:04:46,519 --> 00:04:50,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta agree, And like, I can't speak to 87 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,040 that obviously. I mean, I guess I've never thought about it. 88 00:04:53,079 --> 00:04:55,720 I don't think noise is being pumped in, But if 89 00:04:55,759 --> 00:04:57,720 they were to do so, they are not the only 90 00:04:57,879 --> 00:05:00,600 NBA arena doing so. Like, let's not like, you know, 91 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:03,079 let's not play around. The Warriors did it even during 92 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:07,720 their peak, you know, like there's it's not like it's 93 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,439 completely unheard of. So again, I don't know how this 94 00:05:10,519 --> 00:05:13,720 was aggravated aggregated. I haven't seen the whole clip in 95 00:05:13,759 --> 00:05:16,680 its full context. But even if this is like the allegation, 96 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,279 which again I can't speak to, it wouldn't be as 97 00:05:19,319 --> 00:05:22,079 though this was the only arena where this was being done. 98 00:05:22,319 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 2: So it first I thought, ah, this is pretty tame. 99 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:30,519 I think he just meant music wise, because he said 100 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,439 the quote is they have the crowd towards our bench. 101 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,319 It's like a high school crowd, which some people were like, ehugh, 102 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,680 they mean a high school crowd, which is actually really cool, 103 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:41,680 he said, after a huge compliment. 104 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,399 Speaker 1: If he went to a high school that had a 105 00:05:43,439 --> 00:05:45,560 crowd that cared about basketball. 106 00:05:46,079 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, all those high schools with a halo three sixty board. 107 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 1: Right. 108 00:05:50,319 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 2: He said. The other thing is they pumped sound in 109 00:05:53,079 --> 00:05:56,800 the place. That place is so loud, and he did 110 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:01,199 say it's very loud, whether the crowd is cheering or not. 111 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,879 So that makes it seem like he is saying there's 112 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:09,079 some artificial crowd noise there. And he compared it actually 113 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,800 to Phoenix and the Sons and playing them a couple 114 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,199 of years ago. And so I looked it up, and 115 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,519 it looks like they were being accused of pumping in 116 00:06:19,639 --> 00:06:23,720 some fake crowd noise. So I think he does mean 117 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,439 I don't think it's just music he's talking about. 118 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:26,759 Speaker 1: Right. 119 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,439 Speaker 2: He also made an interesting comment within the full two 120 00:06:29,519 --> 00:06:32,839 minute clip about I don't know if it will survive 121 00:06:33,199 --> 00:06:39,839 pertaining to the wall and be outlawed at some point. 122 00:06:39,959 --> 00:06:42,279 It was it was strange the way he said it, 123 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,839 like he seems to be trying to tweak them a 124 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:46,959 little bit, like he is doing a little bit of trolling, 125 00:06:47,079 --> 00:06:50,079 especially when you see his facial expressions there. He's got 126 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:51,639 a little bit of a grin on his face. You 127 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,720 can kind of see. I don't know, I think he 128 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,759 knows what he's doing. Maybe maybe it's e forra to 129 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:57,879 find out. I don't know. 130 00:06:58,399 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: I think it's more so that because what is the 131 00:07:00,759 --> 00:07:03,600 other result that they don't cheer like? 132 00:07:03,879 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 3: Well, and this is already I mean like this is 133 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,639 already kind of an acrimonious matchup. I mean, you know, 134 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,519 like it's not it's gotten chippy, it's going to continue 135 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:15,800 to be so you know, these teams are like peaks 136 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,800 and valleys obviously over the last over the last five years, 137 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,040 but like have largely been pretty big competition to one another. 138 00:07:22,079 --> 00:07:24,759 And I think that I think that it's a little 139 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:26,800 bit of gamesmanship, but I'm not mad at it. I 140 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:29,199 like it actually, but it's. 141 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 2: Like it's not Does he think the players from the 142 00:07:31,839 --> 00:07:35,839 Clippers are gonna get into this debate because it's him 143 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,680 versus the fans? Now, do you really do you really 144 00:07:39,759 --> 00:07:42,759 want them screaming even louder? Does he? Does he realize 145 00:07:42,839 --> 00:07:45,959 how creative the signage could get out there at the wall? 146 00:07:46,639 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 3: You're saying he just poked the bear. 147 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, he's like Dylan Brooks. He pokes bears. 148 00:07:52,399 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: Like. There's some signs and I'm not going to get 149 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,639 into too many details. There's one particular style of sign 150 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,959 that I'm interested to see if it makes an appearance. 151 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,759 I'm not gonna go any further than that. We can 152 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:04,480 talk about it when US three or off the air. 153 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,879 I think Adam maybe knows what I'm talking about. I'm 154 00:08:08,079 --> 00:08:09,759 was already very excited for this. If you get there 155 00:08:09,759 --> 00:08:11,720 a half hour early, you also get a free T shirt. 156 00:08:11,759 --> 00:08:15,759 So go. It's gonna be fantastic. To the on court stuff. 157 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,720 We're getting right into it. First segments, what the Clippers 158 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:21,600 need to do to win. Second segment's going to be 159 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,279 what could go wrong. I want to quick haggle, no 160 00:08:24,399 --> 00:08:27,800 haggle for you guys, haggle, no haggle. Kawhi should try 161 00:08:27,839 --> 00:08:31,160 and score thirty nine points on seventy nine percent shooting. Again, 162 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,399 Adam will kick it to you. 163 00:08:33,399 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 2: You said quick, no haggle, no haggle. Well, there's different 164 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:47,600 ways to take that. Yes, if he starts off super hot, 165 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,919 keep going if you're in the zone. If he starts 166 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,039 oh five, he's like, I gotta get to that seventy 167 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,080 nine percent, So I gotta find a run in here 168 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,159 somewhere where I just hit twelve straight shot. 169 00:08:57,279 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: I gotta make thirty in a row. 170 00:08:59,759 --> 00:09:01,759 Speaker 2: Then maybe no, but yes, no haggle. 171 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: Well you had to be pretty psyched because this is 172 00:09:05,399 --> 00:09:08,759 obviously off the attack mode comments after game one that 173 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,720 Tyler said about Kawhi, what are you expecting from Kuhi 174 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,600 in game three? I don't think it can get any better. 175 00:09:13,759 --> 00:09:18,600 We've seen it get better. But I I'm tempering my expectations, 176 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,399 but not in like a bad way, if that makes sense. 177 00:09:21,799 --> 00:09:23,360 It's just such a treat that game too. 178 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, well, he knew that he had to 179 00:09:25,919 --> 00:09:28,039 be more aggressive. We saw the adjustment. I mean, it's 180 00:09:28,039 --> 00:09:30,799 not like he hasn't been in this situation so many times, 181 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,200 and you know, as much as it, I just don't 182 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:37,120 get how this is still baffling people. To be perfectly 183 00:09:37,159 --> 00:09:39,519 honest with you, Like I feel like the conversation, especially 184 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,120 like around looser fans of the team or like looser 185 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,039 people in the NBA, they're like, oh wow, like I 186 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:45,639 can't believe Qui I did that, and it's like, no, 187 00:09:46,039 --> 00:09:48,080 this is who he is, this is who he always is. 188 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,879 Like the health thing is really unfortunate, but like this 189 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,519 guy has like clawed us through so many playoff matchups, 190 00:09:55,639 --> 00:09:58,080 and like if we had had even more than one 191 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,600 healthy postseason, the entire your conversation around this trade would 192 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:05,200 be completely different. So like there's my soapbox, Like I know, 193 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,360 like I'm just I just it's obviously it's impressive. I'm 194 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,480 not diminishing that in any ways, but like people act 195 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,120 surprised and like, I just I you did you forget 196 00:10:13,159 --> 00:10:15,039 who this guy was? Like I just don't really, I 197 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,679 can't really comprehend it. I agree, I think you can 198 00:10:18,759 --> 00:10:20,480 still do the same thing. We've seen him do the 199 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,120 same damn thing multiple times. A lot of Hawaii has 200 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,279 eight games like this, we're wearing a damn chit. 201 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:26,799 Speaker 1: Hell yeah. 202 00:10:26,879 --> 00:10:29,759 Speaker 2: It's like they're acting as if Kawhi didn't play sixty 203 00:10:29,799 --> 00:10:32,000 eight games last season. Man, Kawhi has it looked as 204 00:10:32,039 --> 00:10:35,279 good and so long, motherfuckers. He had a thirty game 205 00:10:35,399 --> 00:10:38,600 stretch last year where he put up fifty seven fifty 206 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:42,600 one ninety one shooting explicit it's the all time historic 207 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:46,200 efficiency rating over a thirty game stretch. What are you 208 00:10:46,279 --> 00:10:51,279 talking about? I just yeah it. The national media, especially 209 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,039 espen some people have just been so insufferable how they 210 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,879 just woke up to this. Even Ernie Johnson said it 211 00:10:57,039 --> 00:10:59,320 who I love he was, Like, man, I've seen Kawhi 212 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,240 look this good for so I was like, we have, 213 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:05,559 we have It's just about health. When he's healthy, he 214 00:11:05,639 --> 00:11:06,240 looks great. 215 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: I think the health I mean, I agree one hundred 216 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:12,440 percent agree with with both of y'all. And this game, 217 00:11:12,639 --> 00:11:16,000 this playoff series, just how he looked so far is 218 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,000 also a testament to how well they handled the injury 219 00:11:18,039 --> 00:11:21,720 this year. They handled it slow, they ramped him back up. 220 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,000 He was happy with how they were, you know, consulting 221 00:11:24,039 --> 00:11:26,240 with the outside medical team, which is his I'm assuming 222 00:11:26,279 --> 00:11:29,840 so like, I don't know if I'm gearing up for 223 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,000 for another thirty nine points, but I'm gearing up for 224 00:11:32,039 --> 00:11:34,480 another efficient night with really good defense like he's been 225 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:36,639 and just there and. 226 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:37,879 Speaker 3: Just the aggressiveness like that. 227 00:11:38,039 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: That was the thing. 228 00:11:38,759 --> 00:11:40,399 Speaker 3: He did look to be a little bit of a 229 00:11:40,399 --> 00:11:42,960 passenger and game in game one, and you know, he 230 00:11:43,039 --> 00:11:44,519 made the adjustment. He knows what he has to do, 231 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,039 he knows who he has to be. And even by 232 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:49,679 Tyler Low's admission, you know, first games like game one 233 00:11:49,759 --> 00:11:51,879 are a little bit of feel outs. Uh, you know, 234 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,480 they had the Clippers had some other things not exactly 235 00:11:54,519 --> 00:11:58,480 going in their way, like visa via the bench has 236 00:11:58,519 --> 00:12:02,480 not been has not been vis a vis what we 237 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,720 thought it would be, so it makes sense. But you 238 00:12:05,759 --> 00:12:09,159 know he knows that. Ultimately, you know, the ceiling of 239 00:12:09,159 --> 00:12:11,960 what this team does is tied to him, and it's nobody. 240 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,600 It's not necessarily somebody's team or any one person's team, 241 00:12:15,639 --> 00:12:18,519 but I mean, if it was it's his. 242 00:12:19,639 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 2: I like that you say my MF was also not 243 00:12:22,039 --> 00:12:23,639 directed at anyone in particular. 244 00:12:23,759 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 3: Is not your first f bom on this podcast. 245 00:12:25,799 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 2: Absolutely more weight to it. Rarely ever say something like that, 246 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,279 but the national media is way behind on Lou Kawhi. 247 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:35,639 Speaker 1: Leonard looks better than ever. 248 00:12:36,639 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 2: Why did you think we were so frustrated last season 249 00:12:38,639 --> 00:12:40,960 because we had what looked like the best version of 250 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,399 Kawhi ever for sixty eight games and then unfortunately he 251 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:44,919 got hurt. 252 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: Come on, I'm happy you dropped the mfor in the playoffs. 253 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:50,039 I can't wait to see what you say when they 254 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,279 win the chip. Well, you mentioned game one being a 255 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,639 feel out game. A lot of people are claiming for 256 00:12:55,759 --> 00:12:59,799 adjustments which are a lot smaller than I think people realize. 257 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,399 The playoffs, one of the adjustments we saw was the 258 00:13:03,399 --> 00:13:06,919 timing of the double teams in Game two. They talked 259 00:13:06,919 --> 00:13:10,600 a little bit about this after practice. I saw some 260 00:13:10,639 --> 00:13:14,759 stats from nikaias Duncan, who obviously, if you like, you 261 00:13:14,759 --> 00:13:18,519 should follow him on Twitter. They stopped switching in the 262 00:13:18,519 --> 00:13:21,200 fourth quarter and they were showing instead on the pick 263 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,360 and roll. So what that did was it cut down 264 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:28,320 on the lack of mismatches that Jokic could post up on. 265 00:13:29,399 --> 00:13:33,399 And the first game he had nine post ups for 266 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,679 someone other than Zoo and then only four of those 267 00:13:36,759 --> 00:13:42,240 in game twotment, that's like a small adjustment that we saw. 268 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,399 Speaker 2: Well, coach doesn't adjust, doesn't do anything. No, no, no, 269 00:13:46,399 --> 00:13:47,480 that's all you pick it out. 270 00:13:47,519 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 3: Now. 271 00:13:47,919 --> 00:13:50,279 Speaker 2: He didn't play Ben Simon, he didn't do that. 272 00:13:52,279 --> 00:13:54,039 Speaker 1: But I just that was a good thing, and I 273 00:13:54,039 --> 00:13:56,799 hope that continues, right because Adam, we saw the doubles 274 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,120 work a little bit better. It's still Jokic, but we 275 00:13:59,159 --> 00:14:01,039 saw done get as you'll kind of sneaking up when 276 00:14:01,039 --> 00:14:03,039 he had his back turn. It looked noticeably sharper. 277 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 2: In game two, there was one that bothered me where 278 00:14:07,399 --> 00:14:09,440 Zu didn't come to the level of the screen on 279 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,879 that Jamal Murray three pointer that he got, and I 280 00:14:11,919 --> 00:14:14,519 think Chris Dunn thought he was going to he went 281 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:16,759 over it, but he was kind of slow to react 282 00:14:16,759 --> 00:14:18,679 to it, thinking you have to drop back on Jokic, 283 00:14:18,759 --> 00:14:21,840 and then Murray buried that big three. But outside of that, yeah, 284 00:14:21,879 --> 00:14:26,240 they were they were tighter with their coverage. It's still 285 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,679 having said all that, Will and I were talking about 286 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:33,000 it off air, like they still got a ton of 287 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,879 offensive rebounds. Russ still made some really big shots and 288 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:40,840 Aaron Gordon missed a dunk, a wide open dunk. The 289 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,320 Clippers got really fortunate. They also missed what eight free throws? 290 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,519 How many free throws are the Denver Nuggets missing that game? 291 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,399 They were, yeah, fourteen of twenty two, and Nikola Jokic 292 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:56,240 missed four. And I think this series is right where 293 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,240 it should be with how close both games have been 294 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:02,240 and how both teams they have left some meat on 295 00:15:02,279 --> 00:15:05,120 the bone, Like you can make the argument, and I 296 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,320 think maybe David Allman said this as well. They felt 297 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:12,279 like they played better in Game two and lost than 298 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,279 they did in Game one and one, And maybe the 299 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:17,200 Clippers played better in Game one and lost. You know, 300 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,399 it's it's been weird like that, but it comes down 301 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:21,720 to a few plays here and there. 302 00:15:22,519 --> 00:15:24,639 Speaker 1: Well, how are you feeling about the turnovers because they 303 00:15:24,639 --> 00:15:27,320 were ugly to start Game two, excuse me, and then 304 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,159 got a lot better as the game went on. 305 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's it's always that thing. They can 306 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,519 keep it to that sub fourteen number. I feel like 307 00:15:35,519 --> 00:15:37,360 they're in a good spot, you know. I think it 308 00:15:37,399 --> 00:15:39,799 was what was it eleven in that game too, which 309 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:43,600 is like incredible. I don't necessarily expect that to continue, 310 00:15:43,879 --> 00:15:46,279 but they can keep it sub fourteen. They can play 311 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:50,879 this one. What I do feel like the transition has 312 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,759 been punishing. I feel like, I guess I'm just happy 313 00:15:53,799 --> 00:15:58,320 it hasn't been worse, but it has been a punishing 314 00:15:58,360 --> 00:15:59,639 style of play for the Clippers. 315 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,519 Speaker 1: They were better with it because they got I was 316 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,600 so worried in Game two in the beginning because the 317 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,639 first quarter the Nuggets, it was a track meet. And 318 00:16:07,679 --> 00:16:10,879 then Van Gundy said this on the broadcast. In the 319 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,519 second and third quarter in Game two, they had no 320 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,279 fast breakpoints the Nuggets. 321 00:16:16,279 --> 00:16:19,159 Speaker 3: So like we saw, we scored them on the break 322 00:16:19,159 --> 00:16:19,759 in Game two. 323 00:16:20,159 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, what was that out of. 324 00:16:21,519 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 2: I think they had fourteen fast break points in the 325 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,840 first quarter and zero the final three quarters. 326 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, which I don't trust, right, Like I don't I 327 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,120 don't believe that they're not gonna go scoreless in transition 328 00:16:35,159 --> 00:16:36,879 for another three quarters in a row. No. 329 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess the more troubling stat though, is like 330 00:16:39,559 --> 00:16:43,919 in that that in that game too, they had more 331 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:47,120 than like three times the amount of second chance opportunities. 332 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:48,919 It was like eighteen to five. 333 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:55,639 Speaker 1: Let me pull that up. That is correct, yeah, fact 334 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:56,519 check myself. 335 00:16:58,000 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 336 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:02,679 Speaker 3: And overall, the rebrounding has looked has looked worse. It 337 00:17:02,759 --> 00:17:05,119 has looked a little bit more difficult against this Denver team, 338 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:06,960 which was something that I thought would get kind of 339 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:07,480 short up. 340 00:17:08,599 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 2: I think part of it is just built in too. 341 00:17:12,559 --> 00:17:14,640 You have to give up something if you're gonna guard 342 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,279 Yokics the way they do late in games, if they're 343 00:17:17,279 --> 00:17:22,000 gonna double and triple team like they have at times, well, 344 00:17:22,279 --> 00:17:25,920 they're doubling around the high posts. They're doubling on the elbows, 345 00:17:26,319 --> 00:17:31,279 you know, like Zoo's over there, like asking where why 346 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:33,839 is the beats? Zubas getting rebounds because Joki is pulling 347 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:35,559 him out to the perimeter, and then Chris Dunnan is 348 00:17:35,559 --> 00:17:37,920 being pulled over there too, or Kawhi or both. 349 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 3: And you can't drop more, you know, like at that 350 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,599 point why even send the double like there's you're cooked. 351 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:49,319 Speaker 2: I do think first of all, Coach Lou ended up 352 00:17:49,319 --> 00:17:51,720 being right. He kept normOn Pale out there in the 353 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,359 fourth quarter and he scored seven points, and that could 354 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:56,440 be a big turning point in this series of if 355 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:00,240 Palell can carry that over into really getting it owing 356 00:18:00,319 --> 00:18:02,440 in all four quarters now and looking like himself. That 357 00:18:02,559 --> 00:18:05,759 was probably the turning point for him. Before that, though, 358 00:18:05,799 --> 00:18:07,559 I was like, I don't know, you might have to 359 00:18:07,599 --> 00:18:10,720 pull him because if he's not scoring and he's not 360 00:18:10,759 --> 00:18:14,400 gonna get rebounds, I would just rather try dj or 361 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,759 Niko Batoum. And that could still be a decision at 362 00:18:17,799 --> 00:18:21,079 times late in the fourth quarter, just to have more 363 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,640 size out there and somebody else that can get a rebound. 364 00:18:23,759 --> 00:18:26,559 If they're gonna continue to guard Jokish this way, because 365 00:18:26,599 --> 00:18:29,160 they're gonna have the guys that they've been having there 366 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,599 to get rebounds. A lot of time is Harden and 367 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,240 Powell are the two guys back while other guys are 368 00:18:34,279 --> 00:18:38,039 blitzing and trapping. You're gonna lose that battle to Aaron Gordon, 369 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,880 to Michael pob Junior, who had fifteen last game. 370 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: Fifteen last game, and I think six offensive rebounds himself 371 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,759 the Norm thing. That's a great segue into this last 372 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:52,240 kind of like what they need to do keep the 373 00:18:52,279 --> 00:18:57,319 same lineup. I said this after in the post game stream, 374 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,960 and you nailed it. What did Norm have? Seven points? 375 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:04,559 The fourth clutch three point? He also there are some 376 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,960 cool stuff today after practice, talking about how him and 377 00:19:07,079 --> 00:19:10,160 Zoo have talked a lot about that interior pass to 378 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,599 make it easier to have a back and forth dialogue 379 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,000 he's had. I think most of his assists, not that 380 00:19:16,039 --> 00:19:19,200 there's a lot in this series are to Zoo because 381 00:19:19,319 --> 00:19:22,079 maybe the Nuggets just didn't realize that someone other than 382 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:25,240 James Harden would pass Zoo the ball or something like that. 383 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:29,920 But Norm, like this is why you don't switch the 384 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,519 lineup after one game. Like, yes, I'm not pretending that 385 00:19:33,599 --> 00:19:36,000 Norm not being able to hit a shot is like fine, 386 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,400 but you let a shooter work out of it, and 387 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:42,720 he worked out of it incredibly clutch and incredibly well. 388 00:19:44,079 --> 00:19:46,599 So don't be surprised if we see the same lineup 389 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,359 until as Adam pointed out, maybe there is a breaking point. 390 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 2: To me, the overall point is and why coach Loues 391 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,599 stuck with him, is he knows he's going to need 392 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:56,799 him at some point. You're not going to win four 393 00:19:56,839 --> 00:19:59,599 games against Denver if Norm doesn't have a big impact, 394 00:20:00,079 --> 00:20:02,720 so to just say, oh, we'll go somewhere else. Oh 395 00:20:02,799 --> 00:20:04,720 and by the way, the other guy you typically go 396 00:20:04,799 --> 00:20:07,559 to is Bogee to fill in those Norm minutes, and 397 00:20:07,599 --> 00:20:11,960 he's been worse. So I think Coach lou he got 398 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:15,720 put into a spot. I said this postgame. If Kawhi 399 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,000 wasn't as good as he was in Game two, Norm 400 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,319 probably doesn't play in the fourth quarter. Like he gave 401 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,319 longer of a leash because he kept the Clippers tight 402 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,319 and in it and that three pointer to put him 403 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,039 up by three to end the first half and saved shot. 404 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,920 Kawhi was so good he might have saved Norm there. 405 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:35,759 Speaker 1: Oh I like that idea. 406 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:36,519 Speaker 3: That's a great call. 407 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're right. Norm also had that nice 408 00:20:39,319 --> 00:20:42,319 pass to Zoo for the end one. I'm really late. 409 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,319 Speaker 3: But if it's not, what is the answer, Like, oh, 410 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,480 let's say he doesn't have it going again, Like, what 411 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:49,559 what do you do at that point? 412 00:20:49,599 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 2: If one of him or both you don't have a going, Like, yeah, 413 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:55,599 they're going to lose the series. Probably you can't you 414 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,599 can't survive when you're already at eight guys or eight 415 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,559 and a half guys right now that you're playing. You 416 00:21:01,599 --> 00:21:03,440 can't have two of them just be no shows. 417 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 1: You're down to six guys at that especially. 418 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 2: The same position, especially doing the same stuff, yes, stuff. 419 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: At least stressing that positional depth for sure. All right, 420 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,359 coming up, we're gonna talk about what the Clippers need 421 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,880 to not do in game three. Maybe we'll talk about Bogden, 422 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,559 who does If you're listening to us on audio, is 423 00:21:23,559 --> 00:21:25,640 gonna be a quick break. If you're watching us, we're 424 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,640 still here. Coming up, we're talking what could go wrong? 425 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,200 Let us know what you think could go well at 426 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:33,880 Clippers pod on Twitter or at Clippers podcast on YouTube. 427 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,960 What could go wrong? Coming up? In three? Two one? 428 00:21:37,519 --> 00:21:41,160 Speaker 3: All right, welcome back into Clips and dip. As we're 429 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,839 coming at you. Clippers have tied up the series taken 430 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,039 on the Nuggets for game three, first playoff game at 431 00:21:47,079 --> 00:21:50,440 into it on Thursday. Now we got to talk about it. 432 00:21:50,519 --> 00:21:52,640 No one wants to think about it. But what could 433 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:56,400 go wrong in this one? Adam, I'll kick it over 434 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:00,319 to you. What are you most worried about looking forward 435 00:22:00,279 --> 00:22:04,319 to game in Game three. 436 00:22:03,759 --> 00:22:06,079 Speaker 2: You know, in peking in the brain, that's like the 437 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,799 same thing we do every night, Pinky taking over the world. 438 00:22:08,839 --> 00:22:11,119 It's like the same thing I'm always worried about. Nikola 439 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:16,440 jokicch Nikoleokicic is due. You can say all you want 440 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,799 about how well the Clippers have defended him, and they 441 00:22:18,799 --> 00:22:21,279 have been great. It's not going to matter. At some 442 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,240 point he is going to have a game where he 443 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,440 doesn't try to ease his way in and get everybody 444 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,200 else shots. He's going to try to go for forty 445 00:22:28,319 --> 00:22:31,480 or fifty, and that probably is coming up in game 446 00:22:31,559 --> 00:22:34,920 three or game four, because right now, if you look 447 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,160 at his averages, he's at twenty eight points, ten boards, 448 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:44,039 eleven assists. Crazy, right wrong, That's still below his regular 449 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,599 season numbers with his triple double that was at thirty, 450 00:22:48,039 --> 00:22:52,400 thirteen and ten. While he's playing eight less minutes than 451 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,319 he has been in the series. So he's actually putting 452 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,599 up less numbers while playing eight four minutes per game. 453 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,160 It's not going to hold up forever, and he is 454 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,960 going to have his Kawhi moment where it feels like 455 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,640 he's unstoppable. That's the game where the Clippers are gonna 456 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,880 have to have more than just Kawhi, more than just 457 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,359 Sam Harden, more than just a Piasa Zubots. They're gonna 458 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,359 have to have norm have it going. They're gonna have 459 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,440 to have Bogie contribute. Maybe DJ knocks out a few 460 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,680 more shots, but toomb out there who has been good. 461 00:23:21,599 --> 00:23:25,160 It's gonna take everybody in a game like that, because 462 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,920 you can say all you want about just let him 463 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,480 score and stop the other guys. You can't just stop 464 00:23:31,519 --> 00:23:35,440 the other They're not it's not him in bad Guys 465 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,839 from Clippers podcast or four guys from Clippers podcast next 466 00:23:39,039 --> 00:23:41,559 playing next to Niko Jokis, they're all part of the 467 00:23:41,599 --> 00:23:45,200 four hundred and fifty greatest players ever. And in the playoffs, 468 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,079 Jamal Murray, you could say he's not an all star. 469 00:23:48,799 --> 00:23:51,000 He is the playoffs. He's a number two on a 470 00:23:51,079 --> 00:23:54,240 championship team. It has been proven before. He's a playoff riser. 471 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,119 So just saying you can stop everybody else and let 472 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,799 Jokic get his they couldn't stop Aaron Gordon in Game one, 473 00:24:01,559 --> 00:24:04,559 like a very good point. Come on, it's not that simple. 474 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,599 So how do you absorb that level of output when 475 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,359 Jokich is on that huge heater which is coming. It 476 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,200 is going to happen. He's inevitable. 477 00:24:12,799 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: I'm wondering too, how that kind of goes with the 478 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,079 Clippers legs, because we saw some people talking about how 479 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,200 gas they look in Game one, all that stuff, Zoo 480 00:24:21,279 --> 00:24:23,519 having a lot of responsibility, He's always had a lot 481 00:24:23,559 --> 00:24:26,599 of responsibility against Yokich and having to guard Yokic, But 482 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,200 with the added offensive stuff that you can do, which 483 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,839 we love and is great, that's also draining, you know 484 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,440 what I mean, that's that's kind of compounding the energy drain. 485 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,359 So yeah, I wonder they're doing it right. 486 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,519 Speaker 2: They're doing everything right against him. It's just it's still 487 00:24:41,559 --> 00:24:45,480 gonna happen, just like with Kawhi, that performance was going 488 00:24:45,519 --> 00:24:45,920 to happen. 489 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, we talk about this, I feel like 490 00:24:48,519 --> 00:24:50,359 all the time, but like it doesn't matter, Like it 491 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,039 doesn't matter if you're the best defense. Like the game 492 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:57,279 is officiated towards offense. Elite offensive players and we're looking 493 00:24:57,319 --> 00:24:59,960 at probably the best offensive player in the world right now, 494 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:01,960 are still going to get theirs. They're still going to 495 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,839 have their big game. It doesn't matter how well you 496 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,000 game plan, it doesn't matter how well you execute like 497 00:25:06,079 --> 00:25:08,359 it's just going to happen, like that's just that's what 498 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,759 the game is. That's that's the way that it's you know, 499 00:25:10,839 --> 00:25:12,640 that's the way that it's oriented. 500 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: How rebounding talk we talked about a little bit in 501 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,920 the first segment. How concerned are we about this was 502 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,759 game two? It a bit of an anomaly. Do we 503 00:25:23,799 --> 00:25:27,480 even know how Adaman teams will rebound? So if you 504 00:25:27,519 --> 00:25:30,799 look at Game one, Clippers lost boards forty five to 505 00:25:30,839 --> 00:25:31,359 forty four. 506 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 2: They lost it miserably in the second half. They were 507 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,759 leading the board battle of half by like seven or 508 00:25:36,759 --> 00:25:37,160 eight I. 509 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 1: Yeakh and they and then game two. 510 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,519 Speaker 3: And that was apparent down the stretch too. 511 00:25:42,799 --> 00:25:45,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, they got smoked in overtime on the boards. 512 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 2: I think that's what's so damn stressful when you can't 513 00:25:48,039 --> 00:25:51,440 close out possessions. They're constantly missing shots, but they keep 514 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,720 getting more opportunities. You're just like, just get the ball. 515 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 1: That's the legs thing too, right, Like that's I mean, 516 00:25:56,519 --> 00:25:59,039 for all of Russ's faults, he got two offensive boards 517 00:25:59,039 --> 00:26:03,200 in they're overtime. MPJ was a lot more active on 518 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,359 the boards in game two and just kind of played 519 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,680 better overall. They did in game one? What do we Tyler, 520 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,759 you talked a little bit about today about kind of 521 00:26:10,759 --> 00:26:12,599 what you were saying, Adam. When guys are up and 522 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:17,000 doubling or something like that, the rebounders who are supposed 523 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,000 to do that are better at it are just pulled away, 524 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:22,000 Like what do we I don't know. 525 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 3: Do you think less switching would would help combat this, Adam. 526 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:35,319 Speaker 2: If it's still Murray and Joki's on the perimeter running 527 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,640 high pick and roll, it's still a beats a Zubots 528 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,440 and Chris Dunn or Kawhi Leonard who's been guarding Murray 529 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:41,880 a lot late in games that are going to be 530 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,640 out there, and those are your two best rebounders with 531 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,680 the starters. So there's not an easy solution. Coach Lou 532 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:54,960 talked about cracking harder, just out guys, just just having 533 00:26:54,960 --> 00:27:00,559 that will. I think depending on Let's say they're up 534 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,079 by like eight or something like that in the last 535 00:27:03,079 --> 00:27:05,799 five minutes of the game and they've been getting boards 536 00:27:05,839 --> 00:27:07,880 on you, and it's a problem, but you're up because 537 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,640 you're having a hot shooting game. I might lean in 538 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,720 to more defense or more rebounding then and go with 539 00:27:13,799 --> 00:27:20,119 Patoomb or go with DJ over done or Powell. 540 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, if we need the board. I was just looking 541 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:24,400 it up because I was like, oh they. 542 00:27:27,799 --> 00:27:29,799 Speaker 3: Oh man, the stat was so good, Chuck fo. 543 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,039 Speaker 1: It didn't switch as much in the fourth Fuck. 544 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 3: Okay, well say that it didn't. It didn't help. 545 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 2: It didn't help, Chuck. We lost you. Yeah, they were bad. 546 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,200 They've been bad. This is my biggest concern will honestly, 547 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,319 because there's not an easy solution to this. Because we 548 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,079 talked about the scheme and what they're doing to the 549 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:51,720 clippers there. 550 00:27:52,279 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, ye, And I don't know. I guess it's just 551 00:27:57,519 --> 00:27:59,960 an outwork thing. I do, like, do you think patun 552 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,880 minutes going up? That helps? 553 00:28:02,319 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 2: I think it would, Like I I'm we're all comfortable 554 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:06,839 with more Nikova two minutes. 555 00:28:07,559 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 3: And especially like if Norm, like if Norm and Bogdanovic, 556 00:28:12,079 --> 00:28:15,160 I know, different positions, completely different needs filled, But I 557 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:19,319 feel like that's one of your better options, if you know, 558 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,400 like if your plan you know, A and B isn't working, 559 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,680 I feel like that's one of the one of the options. 560 00:28:24,759 --> 00:28:27,160 I feel the less stretch, the least stress about on 561 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:28,319 the floor at least. 562 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 2: Well, because what you could have then is the real 563 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,400 problem is James Harden has been matched up against Aaron 564 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,759 Gordon late in games. A lot Kawhi started against Aaron 565 00:28:38,799 --> 00:28:43,319 Gordon early in that game too. But if Batube can 566 00:28:43,359 --> 00:28:47,759 then go against Gordon, and you either have Kawhi or 567 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:53,680 done on Murray and then obviously have Jokic being guarded 568 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:58,079 by Vitsa Zubats and then it's James Harden who you 569 00:28:58,119 --> 00:29:03,400 can hide on. Either Russ or who's playing who's in 570 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,599 that corner waiting for a three pointer a lot of 571 00:29:05,599 --> 00:29:11,240 the time, or MPJ if he's in, or Christian Brown 572 00:29:12,119 --> 00:29:14,279 like I like that more than Russ having try to 573 00:29:14,319 --> 00:29:17,240 be physical against Aaron Gordon late going for a rebound. 574 00:29:17,359 --> 00:29:19,839 I think that actually be hard and going out against 575 00:29:19,839 --> 00:29:23,160 Aaron Gordon late, that's been the problem to me. Or 576 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,359 it's that at Powell like him and Powell being your 577 00:29:26,359 --> 00:29:30,039 top two guys down low to close out possessions at 578 00:29:30,039 --> 00:29:33,839 the end of a game against these freaking just Doberman 579 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:38,400 pinchers that are going after those rebounds with the Denver Nuggets, 580 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,799 with Russ and ag those are two of the better 581 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:45,000 offensive rebounds scrappy energy guys to get those extra possessions 582 00:29:45,319 --> 00:29:50,160 in the league. Really, Yeah, I know, but Toomb's not 583 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,039 a great rebounder. 584 00:29:51,079 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 3: But I mean, like just the size though and a hustle. 585 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,599 I mean, I like it more than having more guards 586 00:29:57,599 --> 00:29:58,000 out there. 587 00:29:58,599 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 2: He had four rebounds last game in eighteen minutes. Norman 588 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,960 Pale had zero and thirty three minutes. I think he 589 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,799 can do it. I think Nico is an option in 590 00:30:09,799 --> 00:30:14,279 that situation that's still talking about the rebounding issue. It 591 00:30:14,319 --> 00:30:16,240 does scare me more than anything because there's not a 592 00:30:16,279 --> 00:30:16,799 quick fix. 593 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 3: But we're talking about, you know, if if Bogie and 594 00:30:20,079 --> 00:30:23,160 Norm continue as the trend has been so far, it's 595 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,319 outside of that that fourth quarter from more, you know, 596 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,480 I think more Nico, but two minutes is like one 597 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,319 of the only one of the only options that I'm 598 00:30:31,359 --> 00:30:32,480 like feeling good about. 599 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean there isn't really any other options, right, 600 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:42,440 Like it's not like we're at a wealth of bench 601 00:30:42,599 --> 00:30:45,279 rotational guys who can come in and fill in the playoffs, 602 00:30:45,319 --> 00:30:47,559 Like what do we do with Bogie? 603 00:30:48,039 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 3: Like, honestly, yeah, Adam, this is your guy. I want 604 00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,160 to hear what's going on with your guys? Break this 605 00:30:53,279 --> 00:30:53,799 down for me. 606 00:30:54,039 --> 00:30:56,279 Speaker 1: He got more minutes in Game two. He got more 607 00:30:56,319 --> 00:30:59,039 minutes in Game two, he's just gonna get it. Seems 608 00:30:59,079 --> 00:31:00,880 like he get his twelve to fifteen and if he 609 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,000 can make shit happen offensively great and if not, you're 610 00:31:04,079 --> 00:31:05,319 kind of done, you know what I mean. 611 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,519 Speaker 2: Like they could go to a mirror if Bogey struggles 612 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,079 for another game. It could happen at some point. But 613 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,599 here's what's so confounding about this. Bogie has been in 614 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:21,160 much bigger games than this. Huh Yeah, He's been in 615 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,319 bigger games than the NBA technically based upon first round 616 00:31:24,359 --> 00:31:27,480 or second round. He's been in more high stake stakes 617 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,880 games there. He's been in much more high stakes games 618 00:31:31,119 --> 00:31:35,039 with Serbia, like last summer where he dropped twenty on 619 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,039 Team USA and had him up seventeen and was completely dominating. 620 00:31:39,119 --> 00:31:41,519 He was better than Jokic in some ways in that game. 621 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:48,160 I think he's just pressing and their defense. I heard 622 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,960 this earlier from David Adelman. This was interesting. They have 623 00:31:51,079 --> 00:31:53,279 made it a note of trying to keep Bogee down 624 00:31:53,279 --> 00:31:57,920 in this series. He was asked about adjustments, and I 625 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,359 think David Allen has been pretty brilliant with you guys. 626 00:32:00,519 --> 00:32:02,640 Listen to him, and he's just super eloquent the way 627 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,359 he sees the game. I don't know, it's been interesting 628 00:32:04,359 --> 00:32:06,519 to listen to, but I would big Rick Alman fan 629 00:32:06,599 --> 00:32:09,119 obviously from sack Town, so maybe there's some bias there. 630 00:32:09,519 --> 00:32:11,880 But outside of what he said today about into it dumb, 631 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,759 I was really starting to like him. And he talked 632 00:32:14,799 --> 00:32:18,799 about how adjustments can be tricky because you try to 633 00:32:18,839 --> 00:32:22,599 address one problem and now Bogey's starting to get it 634 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,960 going and now you have a new problem, so you 635 00:32:25,079 --> 00:32:27,920 have to be very careful with what you adjust and 636 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,839 how much you adjust. He talked about how you know, 637 00:32:29,839 --> 00:32:32,200 they always scored one hundred and five, so how much 638 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,400 is it really as our defense really been that bad? 639 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,759 Like should we really change things? Because he said, if 640 00:32:37,759 --> 00:32:40,279 Bogey then starts to get it going, basically, then you 641 00:32:40,319 --> 00:32:43,440 have new problems. So they have guarded him well. They 642 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,079 haven't even let him get walk into many like open 643 00:32:46,079 --> 00:32:48,680 shots because he's a lesser player on the floor. They've 644 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,039 treated him like they know this guy could be an 645 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,359 X factor in this series, which he absolutely can be. 646 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,880 He just has to see one go and that's all. 647 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,359 Something else he said, if Bogey sees one shot go, 648 00:32:59,759 --> 00:33:02,839 he's probably gonna get hot, but he's gotta be better. 649 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,640 There's obviously I can't defend it. It's been it's been 650 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:06,400 awful so far. 651 00:33:07,319 --> 00:33:11,000 Speaker 1: It's yeah, I mean, if he makes those if it's 652 00:33:11,039 --> 00:33:12,920 just so confounding though, like it's. 653 00:33:12,759 --> 00:33:15,119 Speaker 3: Just what the hell happened? 654 00:33:16,359 --> 00:33:18,359 Speaker 2: Mary, He wasn't very good against the Warriors in that 655 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,039 game too. Yeah, at the end of the season. Now, 656 00:33:21,279 --> 00:33:23,480 he did have a big steel on Russ late where 657 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,359 he got the ball to DJ for that huge class game. 658 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,559 Maybe that gives him some confidence. It's not a shot, 659 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,519 but he took a possession away. It's I mean, it 660 00:33:32,559 --> 00:33:33,440 was a big turnaround. 661 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,319 Speaker 1: If he could get like just a free throw to 662 00:33:36,359 --> 00:33:38,200 go in, you know, just something so we can get 663 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,319 into the rhythm of seeing it. Because again, I think 664 00:33:40,359 --> 00:33:42,720 he's gonna get his twelve to fifteen and Tie's gonna 665 00:33:42,759 --> 00:33:45,000 be like, please, I hope you can make something happen 666 00:33:45,079 --> 00:33:46,880 in game three because then we'll see that he. 667 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 3: Still has gravity though, you know what I mean, Like, 668 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,279 regardless of the performances have not been good. I can't 669 00:33:52,279 --> 00:33:54,240 defend that, but you know, he's still gonna get that 670 00:33:54,279 --> 00:33:56,599 twelve to fifteen minutes because he has gravity out there. 671 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,240 That's that's still not a guy you're gonna ignore even 672 00:33:59,279 --> 00:34:01,440 if he's like not going to play to the percentages, 673 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,519 you're going to play like the full career reputation of 674 00:34:04,599 --> 00:34:08,519 this guy. So it's not we're not getting down on you, Bogie. 675 00:34:08,519 --> 00:34:10,000 We're trying to lay a fire under you, is what 676 00:34:10,039 --> 00:34:10,440 I'm saying. 677 00:34:11,039 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 1: And the amir thing. A lot of people are yelling 678 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,480 for a mere I'm he is not. He has had 679 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,119 a very poor year defending a mere coffee. Has he's 680 00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:24,280 foul shooters, Yes, he's biting on pump fakes. I love 681 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,039 a mere coffee, yeah, but it's going to take another 682 00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:31,480 over performance from Bogie to get a Mere Coffee in. 683 00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:35,079 I don't. Maybe happened second half or something like that, 684 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:39,360 but like, I just don't. A mer can shoot, for sure. 685 00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:42,719 He cannot get as hot as Bogee. Don't send me 686 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,480 single games. He can't handle the ball as well. It's 687 00:34:45,519 --> 00:34:50,039 just it's not he's just not here's a good player, yeah, 688 00:34:50,119 --> 00:34:51,039 like him as a dude. 689 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:51,639 Speaker 2: Yeah. 690 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 3: Just his clothes in the season was pretty troubling. 691 00:34:54,000 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 2: And that's a good point. Players often ease into a 692 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,840 playoff series in high pressure at home. That is the 693 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:12,599 hope we all rally. We get behind Bogie and he's 694 00:35:12,639 --> 00:35:15,519 not too amped up like he looks noticeably, just so 695 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:20,800 incredibly intense, and it's working against his shot. His shot 696 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,280 is not a power thing. It is a skill thing. 697 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,920 It is little motor skills going on. It's not that 698 00:35:27,119 --> 00:35:29,199 easy to just say I'm gonna go out there and 699 00:35:29,199 --> 00:35:30,920 play as hard as I can and as tough as 700 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,360 I can when you're a sharpshooter. 701 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a good. Really, I'm gonna I'm gonna 702 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:37,880 hit these threes so aggressively. 703 00:35:38,079 --> 00:35:41,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, next darity, it's yeah, it's grace. 704 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,360 Speaker 1: And then, Adam, you started off with the thing you're 705 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:48,440 always worried about. We can do another thing, limiting turnovers. 706 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:49,119 Speaker 3: Uh. 707 00:35:49,559 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 1: The Nuggets made an adjustment in game two. In hardened 708 00:35:53,880 --> 00:36:00,480 Zubac pick and rolls, they stopped doubling as much. In 709 00:36:00,559 --> 00:36:04,039 game two they drop they stopped doubling like half. Basically 710 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,719 they were playing more of you know, the next pass 711 00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,119 away out of that short role for Zoo. I hope 712 00:36:10,119 --> 00:36:12,920 we get good turnover look right, like between forcing and 713 00:36:13,199 --> 00:36:15,840 whatever adjustments we see. But the turnovers lead to fast 714 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,440 break points all that stuff. 715 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, they like will said fourteen or less, and really, 716 00:36:27,159 --> 00:36:30,360 if they had more than eleven in that game, there's 717 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,000 a good chance they lose. It's razor thin margins. You 718 00:36:34,079 --> 00:36:37,239 have one more. So the idea is they're gonna be 719 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,960 a little bit better on the glass. So therefore, if 720 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:43,039 they do have thirteen or fourteen turnovers instead of eleven, 721 00:36:43,079 --> 00:36:45,440 which is gonna be tough to get to again, it 722 00:36:45,559 --> 00:36:48,039 evens out because they'll be better in the rebounding department. 723 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, what is I look at the points per game 724 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,840 of the Jokic Murray pick and roll versus Hard On 725 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,920 Zoo because while a lot of the focus offensively obviously 726 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,840 been on the Murray uh Yokic pick and roll, you know, 727 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,760 they spanned the hell out of it in that game one. 728 00:37:07,199 --> 00:37:09,639 It has been efficient, or at least it's been af 729 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,800 It's looked very efficient, uh for the Clippers as well 730 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,440 in that in the Heart and in Zoo combo. 731 00:37:17,199 --> 00:37:20,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, that man is just like that's we'll have to 732 00:37:20,199 --> 00:37:20,519 look at it. 733 00:37:20,519 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 3: I'm sure you and Murray's is better, but I don't, like, 734 00:37:23,159 --> 00:37:24,559 I'm curious just how much. 735 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:29,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's interesting. Yeah, because game one, I think 736 00:37:29,559 --> 00:37:32,599 Zach Low had it. They ran thirty five picking rolls 737 00:37:32,599 --> 00:37:35,400 between them too, It was twenty five ran by Harden 738 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:40,599 and Zoo. They were both very effective. Uh, I don't know. 739 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:46,920 I'm guessing they ran less and not just less because 740 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:48,840 of Kawhi was doing so much in the game two. 741 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, and apparently it's gonna be fewer. 742 00:37:52,079 --> 00:37:56,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you can't go away from it, like that's 743 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:57,519 another balance. 744 00:37:57,159 --> 00:38:00,320 Speaker 3: And really hasn't like if it's one of those nights 745 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,920 for quiet, like I'm fine, Like just move away from it, 746 00:38:03,079 --> 00:38:05,599 right Well, like Lett, Harden and Zo will get a 747 00:38:05,599 --> 00:38:07,440 little bit of in game rest, save something for the 748 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,760 defensive end. We'll come back to it when we when 749 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,159 we hit you know, when we hit a hiccup, we'll 750 00:38:12,159 --> 00:38:13,280 come back to liable. 751 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, Harden can play much better in game three. I 752 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,840 expect him to, agreed, He wasn't. He wasn't terrible. He 753 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,880 had some terrible turnovers in the first quarter, and then 754 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,760 he had one terrible turnover in the fourth quarter where 755 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,920 after Dunn got the steel on Jokic, he tried to 756 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,320 have a long outlet pass and threw it right back 757 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,760 to Jokic. He kicked his own ass post game about it, 758 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,559 but shooting wise, expect him and less cowhis on the 759 00:38:36,559 --> 00:38:39,760 same eater to be much more aggressive out there like 760 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:40,519 he was Gay one. 761 00:38:41,039 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 1: Okay, last thing before we pick the player of the 762 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,280 game for game three, what are refs doing about these 763 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,840 Jokic flops because we haven't talked about it very much, 764 00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,119 but the last game, and there was one in Gay 765 00:38:53,199 --> 00:38:57,840 one two Game two was egregious. What he was doing 766 00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:58,400 out there. 767 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:01,199 Speaker 3: I just either missed seen so many free throws. I 768 00:39:01,199 --> 00:39:03,199 feel like, ball don't lie, Ball don't lie. 769 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:04,519 Speaker 1: Unethical hoops. 770 00:39:06,079 --> 00:39:08,360 Speaker 2: They missed him and the ball still lied in Game one. 771 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,960 Speaker 1: That's true. That flop against I'm just sorry, I'm just venting, 772 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,079 but I'm just it's so annoying, dude. 773 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,639 Speaker 3: Like the normal one is so egregious. 774 00:39:16,679 --> 00:39:20,159 Speaker 1: I just Wantary jumps into Chris John and like palms 775 00:39:20,199 --> 00:39:22,000 his head like I can't. 776 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,519 Speaker 3: He's an expert at the wing too, at the like 777 00:39:26,639 --> 00:39:28,679 the little little Chicken wing. 778 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,519 Speaker 2: Of course, Nuggets fans will say, what are you guys 779 00:39:31,559 --> 00:39:33,719 talking about? You have James Harden on your team, so 780 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,159 I don't know, man. The Jokic mix versus Harden mix 781 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,320 of flopping in this series is drastically in favor of 782 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:41,880 the Kisch shot. 783 00:39:41,639 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 3: Big shot, more than double the amount of free throws 784 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,639 in each of the games. 785 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,280 Speaker 1: And like Harden. First of all, Harden didn't even shoot 786 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,800 one the other game too, so it's like and Yokic 787 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,440 just flopping against Harden, So what's that do to their argument? 788 00:39:55,639 --> 00:39:59,440 The elbow of the chest and then Jokic lost one 789 00:39:59,519 --> 00:40:01,599 hundred and fIF fifty five pounds and was just down 790 00:40:01,639 --> 00:40:04,480 on the ground that quickly, like, I don't know, I 791 00:40:04,519 --> 00:40:04,920 hate it. 792 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,320 Speaker 2: I do push back a little bit with the free 793 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:11,760 throw disparity, only because Denver during the regular season free 794 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,239 throws attempted in the liveowl a lot, so it does 795 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:18,119 kind of track. But I still expect the Clippers the 796 00:40:18,119 --> 00:40:20,519 disparity not to be as wide. In fact, they may 797 00:40:20,519 --> 00:40:22,840 get more free throws in one or both of these games, 798 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,119 and into a dome there was still a home whistle 799 00:40:25,159 --> 00:40:27,199 going on in Denver. I expect the Clippers to get 800 00:40:27,199 --> 00:40:27,519 the same. 801 00:40:28,119 --> 00:40:32,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we got the home wall, which will be interesting. 802 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,599 Speaker 3: Welling up about point and was it was always going 803 00:40:34,679 --> 00:40:37,199 to be the case, like gets who Denver was all year. 804 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,400 But you know when you're seeing like ten more, ten, 805 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,079 twelve more free throws and again they aren't falling down, 806 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:46,360 so I think comically there's something going on there bottle. 807 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:51,039 Speaker 1: Okay, finally we are picking our player of the game. 808 00:40:51,119 --> 00:40:51,360 Speaker 3: Pitch. 809 00:40:51,679 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 1: If you're new to the show, this one can be 810 00:40:54,760 --> 00:41:00,639 a little difficult. We are not allowed, through uh mandate 811 00:41:01,159 --> 00:41:03,440 to pick one of the big four, so we can't 812 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:07,719 pick Zoo I think I did. We can't pick Zoo, 813 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:12,280 we can't pick Harden, we can't pick Kawhi. Who else 814 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:13,880 can we not pick? We can't pick. 815 00:41:15,639 --> 00:41:17,679 Speaker 3: Who might need to come off the trophy. 816 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,519 Speaker 1: You know what, let's take Norm off. We can pick 817 00:41:20,599 --> 00:41:25,159 Norm now because he's been bad for three quarters seven quarters? 818 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:30,519 Will who is your player of the game for game three? 819 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:35,800 I still gotta go with bogey Man, my god, fighting 820 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,639 over to choose the guy that's sucking right now. 821 00:41:39,599 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, I still gotta go for Bogey Adam. I love 822 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,639 your point about role players settling in once they get 823 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:46,880 in front of that home craft gets settled down a 824 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,639 little bit. You know, maybe you can eat a big 825 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,639 lunch or something just kind of just kind of chill 826 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,960 himself out whatever he needs to do. 827 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:54,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. 828 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 3: Sometimes you have a big lunch, take a little nap, 829 00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:00,239 and you're you're good to go for the game. But 830 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,239 I'm I'm, I'm yeah, I'm ready for him to turn 831 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,920 it around. And I do think you know, as we 832 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:10,079 talked about earlier, if it's not Norm, it's not him. 833 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,800 The options just they get very scary. Uh, they get 834 00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,599 very scary out there as to you know, how the 835 00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:17,840 Clippers are going to continue to keep pace with this 836 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,840 Nuggets offense regardless of how good the Clippers defense is. 837 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,039 So yeah, I'm expecting him to turn it around. 838 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,159 Speaker 1: Adam, your pick. 839 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,039 Speaker 2: Resist picking Norm because it still feels too easy. It 840 00:42:30,039 --> 00:42:33,079 doesn't feel right like this rule amendment. I don't know. 841 00:42:33,119 --> 00:42:34,920 I'm so used to not being able to pick him. 842 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,559 I'm gonna go DJ. He has been good. Yeah, he 843 00:42:39,639 --> 00:42:42,079 hasn't scored a lot, but he has been good. He 844 00:42:42,159 --> 00:42:45,039 has been effective out there. I just want to see 845 00:42:45,039 --> 00:42:46,880 if he ends up with ten or twelve points in 846 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,480 this game. A couple of high flying dunks, a three pointer. 847 00:42:51,199 --> 00:42:54,440 I just want to see DJ get the crowd on 848 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,719 their feet and continue some momentum runs for the Clippers 849 00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,159 with those exciting plays, a couple. 850 00:43:00,039 --> 00:43:03,800 Speaker 3: A couple of timely TJ like DJ dunks. I think that, 851 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,679 like that, that is what could make this a Finally, 852 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,599 if we get one comfortable game in this series that 853 00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:11,480 that would be the thing to kind of do it into. 854 00:43:11,559 --> 00:43:14,559 Speaker 1: It's gonna lose its damn mind when Derek Jones junior 855 00:43:14,599 --> 00:43:17,719 throws went down. I'm going Chris Dunn, who I have 856 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,880 loved watching play basketball the entire times with the Clippers, 857 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,159 and this series has proven how good and valuable and 858 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,559 how bullshit the new rules are for the first team 859 00:43:26,679 --> 00:43:30,400 NBA and all that stuff. But Chris Done. He's done 860 00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,920 exactly what he's done all year, yeah twice, which is 861 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,280 set the tone with his play on the court. He's 862 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,960 been a tone center for this team. 863 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,719 Speaker 2: We said, you heard coach lu say that recently. He's like, 864 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,880 we need to all be like Chris Dunn out there. 865 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,599 Speaker 1: Hell yeah. Like he's been fantastic. 866 00:43:48,639 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 3: I'm really excited to see I say. 867 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:57,320 Speaker 1: That every day. Yeah, I'm excited to have a you know, 868 00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:01,079 a Pat Bev esque big defensive play goes crazy. He's 869 00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,360 hyping the crowd up. I'm picking Chris Done. 870 00:44:03,559 --> 00:44:05,840 Speaker 3: He's only shooting like thirty three percent so far in 871 00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:09,280 the series, and I think, I mean, I think you 872 00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:09,920 can do better. 873 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and the offense too, whatever, Chris all right, 874 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,880 that about wraps it up. Oh, I cannot wait to 875 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,480 be an into a dome tomorrow. If you're going, please 876 00:44:21,519 --> 00:44:23,400 be loud. We know you will be, but we just 877 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,440 got to say it. We're gonna be back with some 878 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,840 postgame stuff on Thursday, probably a Happy Hour stream on Friday, 879 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,880 because it's kind of a weird quick turnaround. The Clippers 880 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,840 play at three on Saturday. Will where can some of 881 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:38,519 our newfound listeners, if they'd feel so inclined, let us 882 00:44:38,519 --> 00:44:40,760 know what they think of our content? Yeah? 883 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can let us know on basically any any 884 00:44:43,679 --> 00:44:45,639 piece of content over at YouTube dot com slash that 885 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,320 Clippers podcast. That's, of course the best way to consume 886 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,519 the show. You get to see stuff this I don't know. 887 00:44:50,559 --> 00:44:52,800 I mean, the show doesn't stop for. 888 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,039 Speaker 1: That day stuff. 889 00:44:54,159 --> 00:44:56,519 Speaker 3: You get to see stuff. But if you're more into 890 00:44:56,559 --> 00:44:58,239 the audio things, you can listen to the show wherever 891 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,000 you get your audio podcast. If you happen to listen 892 00:45:00,119 --> 00:45:02,679 over on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, you leave a little 893 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,159 radi and review. You can comment now on Spotify. So yeah, 894 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,039 we'd love to hear from you. However, you can sue 895 00:45:07,039 --> 00:45:09,760 the show. You know, we appreciate you. Here's to maybe 896 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,639 not having a heart attack one day. 897 00:45:11,679 --> 00:45:15,199 Speaker 1: This week would Yeah, I agree with that. Now, Adam 898 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,000 final thing, real quick, one positive thing to send these 899 00:45:19,039 --> 00:45:21,280 fans into game three. 900 00:45:22,679 --> 00:45:27,239 Speaker 2: It turns out national media Kawhi Leonard is real mother 901 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:28,039 effing good. 902 00:45:28,159 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 1: Still there we go. He censored it this time, but 903 00:45:32,679 --> 00:45:35,599 go back there is proving him cursing. Thank you all 904 00:45:35,679 --> 00:45:37,800 so much. We will be back with you all after 905 00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:41,360 the game on Thursday, and as always, let's go clips.