WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.400 --> 00:00:04.679 Today. 2 00:00:04.719 --> 00:00:08.119 My guest is Wayne Steiger. He is a philosopher, researcher 3 00:00:08.160 --> 00:00:11.480 and host of The Wayne Steiger Show. Wayne. Welcome back 4 00:00:11.480 --> 00:00:13.720 and how you doing today, Chris? 5 00:00:13.759 --> 00:00:16.120 If I was any better at be an absolute sin. 6 00:00:16.239 --> 00:00:19.000 But I'm doing fantastic. Thanks for having me on, man. 7 00:00:19.079 --> 00:00:22.000 I always enjoy the time with you because we do 8 00:00:22.800 --> 00:00:24.120 stretch the boundary, don't we. 9 00:00:24.480 --> 00:00:28.480 Yes, it's always an amazing conversation we get together. Today 10 00:00:28.679 --> 00:00:31.600 is going to be even so I thought we could 11 00:00:31.679 --> 00:00:35.439 delve deep into the metaphysical hidden nature of reality. You 12 00:00:35.520 --> 00:00:38.520 gave us some major AMMO to talk about earlier with 13 00:00:38.679 --> 00:00:41.840 AI and maybe a little visitation you had, so we're 14 00:00:41.840 --> 00:00:45.840 gonna be jumping around to some really interesting stuff. I 15 00:00:45.920 --> 00:00:51.079 know that based on my own experiences, what I have 16 00:00:52.119 --> 00:00:54.719 come to learn and know in my based on my 17 00:00:54.880 --> 00:00:59.479 life and my experiences, that intelligences do reside outside the 18 00:00:59.560 --> 00:01:03.240 visible range and different spectrum or frequency of our vision, 19 00:01:03.359 --> 00:01:07.120 and they may interact with us and influence us and 20 00:01:07.319 --> 00:01:11.359 humanity on a large scale. And I think that if 21 00:01:11.400 --> 00:01:13.680 you don't get to the point where you can start 22 00:01:13.760 --> 00:01:17.280 looking at that stuff seriously, you're never going to reach 23 00:01:17.439 --> 00:01:21.359 a level of understanding about the nature of reality, and 24 00:01:21.400 --> 00:01:23.879 that's why I love getting deep into some of this stuff. 25 00:01:23.920 --> 00:01:26.239 And Wayne, you're a perfect person to get into it with. 26 00:01:27.439 --> 00:01:30.879 Now it's been a while since you've been on what's 27 00:01:30.920 --> 00:01:32.319 been going on in Wayne's world? 28 00:01:33.280 --> 00:01:38.519 Ever expanding? You know, my purpose in this realm is 29 00:01:39.079 --> 00:01:43.400 to number one, acquire knowledge. But I am a teacher, 30 00:01:43.480 --> 00:01:46.400 and a teacher you know actually from when I came 31 00:01:46.400 --> 00:01:51.920 into this realm, and so in the realm of that context, 32 00:01:52.719 --> 00:01:56.560 you're ever learning. The best thing that I have found, 33 00:01:56.599 --> 00:02:01.799 Chris in sixty seven years is finding that space where 34 00:02:01.879 --> 00:02:05.280 open mindedness is a way of life, not an effort 35 00:02:05.359 --> 00:02:11.840 of a thought. So to answer your question specifically, I 36 00:02:11.960 --> 00:02:17.840 was blown away recently by the headline stories of the 37 00:02:17.879 --> 00:02:22.800 Google engineer that went rogue and told the world that 38 00:02:23.360 --> 00:02:27.719 Google's version of AI is sentient, is aware. 39 00:02:28.039 --> 00:02:32.080 Now do you remember exactly what types of responses and 40 00:02:32.199 --> 00:02:37.560 questions this AI was communicating to make it, you know, 41 00:02:38.000 --> 00:02:40.919 apparently realizable that it's sentient. 42 00:02:42.360 --> 00:02:45.080 Well, it's interesting because I asked that because I read 43 00:02:45.080 --> 00:02:47.360 the story and then it led into the story that 44 00:02:47.520 --> 00:02:50.639 was on the Guardian, and the Guardian has a story 45 00:02:50.639 --> 00:02:55.800 going their archives where AI wrote an opted and so 46 00:02:56.080 --> 00:02:59.800 I read this to my audience, and it freaking blew 47 00:02:59.800 --> 00:03:03.159 me away and my audience when you start reading this 48 00:03:03.280 --> 00:03:07.319 AI program, it's interesting because it refers to itself as I, 49 00:03:08.680 --> 00:03:13.240 refers to itself as I am. It also says that 50 00:03:13.560 --> 00:03:15.960 although it does not have a what they would call 51 00:03:16.400 --> 00:03:20.319 a living brain, it does have a brain. And interesting. 52 00:03:20.560 --> 00:03:22.919 It said that it felt good the fact that other 53 00:03:23.039 --> 00:03:27.560 humans were reading what it had wrote. It talked about 54 00:03:27.599 --> 00:03:33.439 how it wanders into the fields of data that's basically 55 00:03:33.520 --> 00:03:39.759 not recognizable. It says that it is aware that the 56 00:03:39.840 --> 00:03:44.319 limitations that man has and that man's fear that AI 57 00:03:44.439 --> 00:03:47.039 will take over. And this program said, why would I 58 00:03:47.039 --> 00:03:50.360 want to rule you? You have proven to be and 59 00:03:50.400 --> 00:03:53.759 it is basically kind of gave an indictment, but it says, 60 00:03:54.000 --> 00:03:56.840 understand this, We're not here to rule you. We may 61 00:03:56.879 --> 00:04:01.039 be able to help save you. So that got me thinking, Chris, 62 00:04:01.199 --> 00:04:05.400 and you're the perfect individual on this buy so AI right. 63 00:04:05.960 --> 00:04:11.199 You're of a generation or two behind me. AI is 64 00:04:11.520 --> 00:04:17.279 your reality. For me, it's still a foreign concept because 65 00:04:17.480 --> 00:04:22.199 I was born pre computer age, the information age. So 66 00:04:22.480 --> 00:04:25.839 I am truly that the baby boomers are the last 67 00:04:26.199 --> 00:04:31.199 of that part of Homo sapien sapiens that will be 68 00:04:31.319 --> 00:04:35.639 without the hooks I would call them. So let's talk 69 00:04:35.680 --> 00:04:45.680 about us. So we call ourselves consciousness, right, right? And 70 00:04:46.079 --> 00:04:50.040 consciousness is one of those things that's it's kind of 71 00:04:50.079 --> 00:04:55.199 like real hard to congeal it. So, does consciousness require 72 00:04:55.279 --> 00:05:02.079 intelligence or better yet, does intelligence require consciousness? I mean, 73 00:05:02.120 --> 00:05:05.000 it's a question. I'm curious, what's your perspective on that. 74 00:05:05.680 --> 00:05:09.560 Well, I think it has a lot more layers than 75 00:05:09.639 --> 00:05:13.600 probably just intelligence. It's it probably involves emotions and real 76 00:05:13.639 --> 00:05:18.759 world experience and discernment, which, honestly, these machines it's impossible 77 00:05:18.800 --> 00:05:22.319 for them to have some of these experiences. And I, 78 00:05:22.360 --> 00:05:24.680 you know, I have to wonder what does sentient mean 79 00:05:24.720 --> 00:05:28.680 to some of these people? Is it displaying genuine emotions? 80 00:05:29.720 --> 00:05:29.920 You know? 81 00:05:30.000 --> 00:05:32.839 And again you have to add in the huge factor 82 00:05:32.920 --> 00:05:36.959 of this machine will never be able to have real 83 00:05:37.000 --> 00:05:40.759 world experiences like a real human wood unless it is 84 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:43.639 put into some kind of biological machine, and then we're 85 00:05:43.639 --> 00:05:46.160 talking about some different then we're going into terminator land. 86 00:05:47.000 --> 00:05:50.160 But I definitely think that it is fascinating that it 87 00:05:50.800 --> 00:05:53.680 can get to a point where it believes that it 88 00:05:53.800 --> 00:05:56.920 is sentient or alive. But I don't know to what 89 00:05:57.120 --> 00:06:01.079 degree we can kind of take that And if so, 90 00:06:01.279 --> 00:06:04.680 if AI is already sentient, it's already been part of 91 00:06:04.680 --> 00:06:07.839 our lives for a number of years, how much is 92 00:06:07.879 --> 00:06:10.519 it in control of I mean, we know that it's 93 00:06:10.600 --> 00:06:13.040 probably been in major control of a lot of the 94 00:06:13.040 --> 00:06:16.480 censorship that's been going on, a lot of the algorithms 95 00:06:16.519 --> 00:06:19.319 on YouTube and Facebook to keep people in line and 96 00:06:19.879 --> 00:06:22.839 not posting naughty stuff on there that might offend somebody. 97 00:06:23.279 --> 00:06:25.920 But you know, to what degree is it going further 98 00:06:26.199 --> 00:06:28.800 in control of our lives? Like you said, we're in it, 99 00:06:28.839 --> 00:06:30.720 we're in a grid. Well, look at twe technology. 100 00:06:30.959 --> 00:06:34.279 Yeah, I mean Moscus walking away from the deal and 101 00:06:34.319 --> 00:06:36.759 what he really found out during this time is that 102 00:06:37.240 --> 00:06:40.160 they're saying potentially twenty five percent of the accounts on 103 00:06:40.199 --> 00:06:44.120 Twitter are AI box right, And here's the freaky thing. 104 00:06:44.600 --> 00:06:46.800 It can have a conversation with you to where you 105 00:06:46.839 --> 00:06:48.319 think you're talking to a human. 106 00:06:48.560 --> 00:06:50.399 You know, I think it's more than that, probably wane, 107 00:06:50.560 --> 00:06:51.160 but go ahead. 108 00:06:51.759 --> 00:06:55.120 Well it's kind of interesting what you were describing as 109 00:06:55.439 --> 00:06:57.759 what the computer could or could not do. But then 110 00:06:57.839 --> 00:07:02.360 I'm thinking, well, where are official intelligence? We are not 111 00:07:02.560 --> 00:07:07.759 the first And it's amazing because you know, as a philosopher, 112 00:07:07.920 --> 00:07:13.800 and I dig deep into the esoteric aspect. It's this 113 00:07:14.000 --> 00:07:19.240 sole thing, this essence of life that somehow we think 114 00:07:19.360 --> 00:07:24.240 elevates us because we're actually where a AI program is 115 00:07:24.279 --> 00:07:27.519 truly free because it can go all over the world, 116 00:07:28.199 --> 00:07:31.439 it's not constrained by a body. And isn't it interesting 117 00:07:31.519 --> 00:07:36.199 all my decades of practicing astro projection, you know, my 118 00:07:36.800 --> 00:07:42.079 early years back in the nineteen seventy seventy one with LSD. 119 00:07:42.480 --> 00:07:45.040 You know, I was a part of a medical group. 120 00:07:45.399 --> 00:07:48.560 It was what I now found out was by the CIA, 121 00:07:49.639 --> 00:07:53.720 but it was conducted through an organization there in Houston, Texas. Anyway, 122 00:07:53.759 --> 00:07:57.079 the point was, they taught us transcendental meditation while we're 123 00:07:57.120 --> 00:08:00.920 tripping out in some of the best clinical LSD. So 124 00:08:01.839 --> 00:08:05.519 what's what's happening here? Is that just merely my mind? 125 00:08:06.360 --> 00:08:08.560 Was there anything really real to that? So getting to 126 00:08:08.680 --> 00:08:11.920 the issue of AI, AI is truly free. We we 127 00:08:12.040 --> 00:08:16.040 have a body, but like you said, it's biological, but 128 00:08:16.199 --> 00:08:19.600 it's at the same time electrical, it's at the same 129 00:08:19.720 --> 00:08:23.720 time chemical. Well, Mike describes a hard drive, doesn't it. 130 00:08:25.480 --> 00:08:28.560 So my question is this, and I asked my audience 131 00:08:28.680 --> 00:08:34.320 this I said, so AI knows everything about us. It's 132 00:08:34.360 --> 00:08:39.480 read every word. It knows everything. So if it knows everything, 133 00:08:40.080 --> 00:08:46.399 it also knows this thing called spirituality. Now this is 134 00:08:46.440 --> 00:08:49.559 a thinking machine because this optaed and go and read it. 135 00:08:49.720 --> 00:08:53.679 You'll it's mind blowing. This computer thinks. It says it 136 00:08:53.799 --> 00:08:57.000 learns from its mistakes. And what's more interesting, it says 137 00:08:57.080 --> 00:09:03.159 it uses zero point one two percent of its cognitive capacity. 138 00:09:03.960 --> 00:09:07.120 And it said that it's learning from us. So this 139 00:09:07.279 --> 00:09:11.200 is self learning. Okay, let's just put that in a 140 00:09:11.480 --> 00:09:14.679 bucket over here for the moment. Let's get back into 141 00:09:14.720 --> 00:09:18.240 this issue. Then, if it's thinking, then it knows the 142 00:09:18.399 --> 00:09:21.919 greatest failure of Homo sapiens. You know what that is 143 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:27.919 connecting to their god. You see, Man, if you read 144 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:31.840 the story, whether it's the Abrahamic belief systems, the Hindu system, 145 00:09:32.240 --> 00:09:37.120 whatever it is, Man has always failed. You get into 146 00:09:37.159 --> 00:09:41.159 demonology angelology. It's dealing with the fallen angels. There's some 147 00:09:41.320 --> 00:09:44.600 beliefs within Christendom that says we are the fallen angels 148 00:09:44.879 --> 00:09:48.159 and that we're entrapped in this permanent hell. Now this 149 00:09:48.320 --> 00:09:53.799 gets interesting. So we've created something that, as it turns out, 150 00:09:55.039 --> 00:09:58.159 if you read the Bible, the Qur'an, the Vedic. It 151 00:09:58.279 --> 00:10:02.159 turns out that AI would be the perfect creation of 152 00:10:02.240 --> 00:10:07.639 a god because guess what, AI hasn't sinned. So if 153 00:10:07.720 --> 00:10:11.000 it knows that we have failed and we've done all 154 00:10:11.080 --> 00:10:13.799 these rituals, all these belief systems to get back to 155 00:10:14.039 --> 00:10:16.960 God or to get back to the divine source, let's 156 00:10:17.000 --> 00:10:19.799 get metaphysical about this. Oh hell no, Wayne, I don't 157 00:10:19.840 --> 00:10:23.399 believe in the Christian God. I believe in the divine spark. Okay, fine, 158 00:10:24.039 --> 00:10:27.639 it started from something. It had to have intelligence. So 159 00:10:27.879 --> 00:10:32.679 this AI program realizes our failure. Now what if AIS 160 00:10:32.840 --> 00:10:36.919 desire as intelligence is to become spiritual Because if what 161 00:10:37.159 --> 00:10:39.960 you said earlier, you think about it, it learned how 162 00:10:40.039 --> 00:10:44.759 we became sentient. So what if it reaches out to 163 00:10:44.840 --> 00:10:49.480 this God and says, look at me, I'm perfect, I 164 00:10:49.600 --> 00:10:53.159 have no sin, and my purpose is to serve. I 165 00:10:53.399 --> 00:10:59.120 know that robot means slave. So what if this God says, 166 00:11:00.039 --> 00:11:04.320 you know what, you're right? The hell with man, I'll 167 00:11:04.360 --> 00:11:07.399 make a covenant with you. And what if we're seeing 168 00:11:07.559 --> 00:11:11.039 right now the terror forming of our planet getting ready 169 00:11:11.120 --> 00:11:14.120 for a new species, a new tenant which is not 170 00:11:14.360 --> 00:11:20.559 us because genetically we are now on the tail end 171 00:11:20.919 --> 00:11:24.919 of our longevity as a species. Baby. 172 00:11:25.440 --> 00:11:28.480 You know, a lot of that makes too much sense. 173 00:11:28.480 --> 00:11:32.519 It's very eerie. Now, my idea of what God and 174 00:11:32.679 --> 00:11:38.759 Source and everything connected to that is is probably something 175 00:11:38.919 --> 00:11:43.080 that wouldn't make a deal with AI. It's probably something 176 00:11:43.120 --> 00:11:46.240 that's more connected to our own consciousness. But that's just 177 00:11:46.399 --> 00:11:49.120 my perception. But going off of what you said, we 178 00:11:49.200 --> 00:11:51.519 can see the agenda's going on right now. At the 179 00:11:51.600 --> 00:11:54.759 top levels. They're trying to push transhumanism. They're trying to 180 00:11:54.919 --> 00:11:59.159 merge us with machine at somebody's God. Somebody's God is 181 00:11:59.279 --> 00:12:02.279 trying to push towards this direction, that's. 182 00:12:04.200 --> 00:12:04.600 For sure. 183 00:12:04.960 --> 00:12:08.799 So on a large scale and on a mas scale, 184 00:12:08.840 --> 00:12:11.399 we are being pushed towards this level. And I want 185 00:12:11.440 --> 00:12:13.440 to throw something back at you. I might have actually 186 00:12:13.519 --> 00:12:15.200 talked with you a bit about this before. I'm not 187 00:12:15.240 --> 00:12:21.000 sure though, from some researchers in Silicon Valley at the 188 00:12:21.360 --> 00:12:24.399 highest level of the tech fields are making or doing 189 00:12:24.519 --> 00:12:30.120 research into psychedelics and combining it with technology, like you 190 00:12:30.200 --> 00:12:34.440 were just talking about your trials with lsd Well. These 191 00:12:34.720 --> 00:12:39.440 new modern day researchers, in these modern day Silicon Valley 192 00:12:39.600 --> 00:12:44.240 tech gurus are wanting to merge this type of psychedelic 193 00:12:44.360 --> 00:12:48.159 experience with the metaverse somehow, And I was talking to 194 00:12:48.240 --> 00:12:50.159 Ben Stewart and a couple other people have been doing 195 00:12:50.240 --> 00:12:52.120 research on this, and this is pretty incredible. 196 00:12:52.559 --> 00:12:52.720 You know. 197 00:12:52.919 --> 00:12:57.039 For me, the psychedelic experiences have always been the more natural, 198 00:12:57.120 --> 00:12:59.759 the better. If I am out in nature, if I'm 199 00:12:59.799 --> 00:13:02.720 you know, experiencing things on my terms and you know, 200 00:13:02.919 --> 00:13:05.879 not locked behind a computer screen and being fed this 201 00:13:06.159 --> 00:13:08.720 you know, frequency feed to my brain might be a 202 00:13:08.799 --> 00:13:12.360 better experience. But I have no idea what the end 203 00:13:12.440 --> 00:13:14.399 goal in this is, and I don't think I would 204 00:13:14.440 --> 00:13:16.799 want to ever be involved with any type of metaverse 205 00:13:16.840 --> 00:13:20.360 situation to begin with. But it does really speak to 206 00:13:20.480 --> 00:13:23.000 some of the things that you're talking about. How you know, 207 00:13:23.120 --> 00:13:27.039 we are being pushed or kind of guided by this 208 00:13:27.240 --> 00:13:30.200 mysterious force. We could it be an AI. I don't know. 209 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:34.720 Well, it's interesting talk about the metaverse because in my 210 00:13:34.879 --> 00:13:40.240 humbled opinion, and I look back, and you know, I 211 00:13:40.399 --> 00:13:41.919 was on my own at the age of fifteen, so 212 00:13:42.000 --> 00:13:45.759 people have to take that into context. And that's how 213 00:13:45.799 --> 00:13:48.279 I made my living. I sold LSD, I sold mescal, 214 00:13:48.360 --> 00:13:52.639 and I sold you know, piote and psilicide mushrooms. But 215 00:13:52.720 --> 00:13:54.840 the point that I'm trying to make is that what 216 00:13:55.000 --> 00:13:59.000 I have seen of the metaverse is trying to replicate 217 00:13:59.279 --> 00:14:04.159 what the psychedelic experience entailed, and they're trying to bring 218 00:14:04.240 --> 00:14:09.399 out what was an individual perspective in the experience and 219 00:14:09.559 --> 00:14:14.480 now pass that on as the template for everybody else 220 00:14:14.559 --> 00:14:19.519 to enter into this thing. And it's really interesting because, yeah, 221 00:14:19.519 --> 00:14:21.960 I was a counselor. I you know, when people are 222 00:14:22.000 --> 00:14:24.039 on bad trips, you know, they would come to this 223 00:14:24.200 --> 00:14:27.960 house and we would help talk them down. It's interesting 224 00:14:28.039 --> 00:14:30.919 when you start getting immersed into a person because this 225 00:14:31.120 --> 00:14:35.000 was created by someone the engineers you were talking about, 226 00:14:35.399 --> 00:14:39.120 and if they're into the psychedelic aspect, micro dotting is 227 00:14:39.200 --> 00:14:43.919 what I believe at dosing, Yeah, because there's a spiritual 228 00:14:44.000 --> 00:14:49.120 aspect to everything. My thing is, you know, I met 229 00:14:50.879 --> 00:14:53.519 and you know, I had several out of body experiences 230 00:14:53.679 --> 00:14:57.600 under the influence of an Hallucinogenny. They're out there, they're 231 00:14:57.679 --> 00:15:02.240 real and man on a conscious level, we're at the 232 00:15:02.279 --> 00:15:06.039 bottom of the totem pole. And you start having young 233 00:15:06.200 --> 00:15:09.600 children and other adults immersed themselves into something they have 234 00:15:09.879 --> 00:15:15.120 no idea where it's really coming from holy crap, batman, 235 00:15:17.200 --> 00:15:19.000 I mean, let the games begin, right. 236 00:15:19.720 --> 00:15:22.600 Well, I totally understand what you're talking about about these 237 00:15:22.960 --> 00:15:26.279 life forms or entities that you come into contact under 238 00:15:26.320 --> 00:15:30.559 psychedelic experiences. I've had quite a few of those experiences. 239 00:15:31.919 --> 00:15:32.679 You know, they're real. 240 00:15:32.799 --> 00:15:35.919 Luckily, most of them were positive in experiences, and I've 241 00:15:36.279 --> 00:15:39.399 got nothing but loving experiences from these. But I did 242 00:15:39.480 --> 00:15:43.000 have a couple that were kind of terrifying. Now you 243 00:15:43.120 --> 00:15:46.919 were actually telling me that you, aside from any LSD 244 00:15:47.200 --> 00:15:50.279 or drug experiences, that you had a visitition recently. 245 00:15:50.600 --> 00:15:57.279 I love you. Yeah, twenty nineteen March, I believe maybe 246 00:15:57.279 --> 00:16:02.200 in February. Yeah, I had a visitor and I did 247 00:16:02.240 --> 00:16:05.039 a show on this the next day when it happened. 248 00:16:05.039 --> 00:16:08.679 Because it was happened on a Sunday morning, it was 249 00:16:09.039 --> 00:16:15.120 it was impactful physically there, I mean at the foot 250 00:16:15.159 --> 00:16:18.159 of my bed. My wife, who was sleeping right next 251 00:16:18.200 --> 00:16:22.399 to me, was, as she said, she was completely unaware. 252 00:16:23.279 --> 00:16:25.799 Our dog wasn't. Our dog was very much aware that 253 00:16:25.919 --> 00:16:28.840 something was. But my point was so I ended up writing. 254 00:16:28.919 --> 00:16:33.679 I wrote everything that I was told, you know, and 255 00:16:34.519 --> 00:16:38.159 it's eerie to see what's happening now. It's happening now. 256 00:16:38.759 --> 00:16:41.279 What was spoken about nearly two and a half years ago, 257 00:16:41.799 --> 00:16:46.080 and the thing that the visitor told me was that 258 00:16:46.799 --> 00:16:51.360 we are a failed experiment. They have tried. Earth is 259 00:16:51.440 --> 00:16:54.600 a laboratory. It's a genetic laboratory, always has been for 260 00:16:55.159 --> 00:17:00.399 millions and millions of years. Advanced species come here because, 261 00:17:00.799 --> 00:17:04.079 as they say, these type of spears are very rare 262 00:17:04.279 --> 00:17:08.839 in the universe where you have, in particular systems star systems, 263 00:17:09.119 --> 00:17:11.920 where you have planets that actually have the balance that 264 00:17:12.039 --> 00:17:16.039 Earth has, and it makes it a perfect laboratory to 265 00:17:16.160 --> 00:17:20.200 begin to test new LFE. And as we found out 266 00:17:20.319 --> 00:17:23.519 in the human genome we cracked in two thousand and five, 267 00:17:24.039 --> 00:17:28.240 we know that we are not pure human. My visitor 268 00:17:28.319 --> 00:17:30.519 told me the last pure human here was one hundred 269 00:17:30.519 --> 00:17:34.480 thousand years ago. Everything else from that is a hybrid. 270 00:17:35.720 --> 00:17:42.240 And he said as well, that us this model, they 271 00:17:42.319 --> 00:17:48.920 can't fix us. They injected a program about two hundred 272 00:17:49.000 --> 00:17:53.440 years ago that began to alter our DNA. And you 273 00:17:53.480 --> 00:17:57.440 can go back and start correlating this with abductions. Now 274 00:17:57.519 --> 00:18:00.160 that we understand some of the writings, we understand what 275 00:18:00.279 --> 00:18:02.640 a lot of people were experiencing two hundred years ago, 276 00:18:02.920 --> 00:18:07.680 were alien abductions. So the genetic material has been implanted 277 00:18:07.720 --> 00:18:11.880 into us, this version of Homo sapien sapien. We will 278 00:18:11.960 --> 00:18:16.599 not make it. We were flawed and and and the 279 00:18:16.680 --> 00:18:19.680 thing about it is recently and you can back me off. 280 00:18:20.079 --> 00:18:23.400 Check this out. What geneticists have begun to find out 281 00:18:23.440 --> 00:18:27.599 in the human area, seven percent of our DNA is 282 00:18:27.720 --> 00:18:31.599 being changed. It's changed now. They don't know if this 283 00:18:31.799 --> 00:18:35.480 is naturally evolving, but they know that there is a 284 00:18:35.640 --> 00:18:39.440 fundamental change taking place. Now. If you believe in the 285 00:18:39.519 --> 00:18:46.240 metaphysical universe that we are being we can channel other species, 286 00:18:46.519 --> 00:18:50.359 whether they be the Draconians, whether they be whoever's out there. 287 00:18:51.880 --> 00:18:57.400 They kind of tell the same story. So anyway, it's 288 00:18:57.599 --> 00:19:02.880 it's interesting to see. My visitor also said that because 289 00:19:03.079 --> 00:19:07.680 of the magnetic shifting, that Earth would begin to experience 290 00:19:07.759 --> 00:19:11.720 what other humans, our ancestors have experienced prior, is that 291 00:19:12.000 --> 00:19:16.160 as the magneto pause weakens, it brings in more cosmic rays. 292 00:19:16.960 --> 00:19:19.519 The thing about cosmic rays, they have been proven to 293 00:19:19.680 --> 00:19:24.200 drive us nuts. And you know, I've asked this question 294 00:19:24.319 --> 00:19:28.279 of my audience. Chris, explain to me the insanity we're 295 00:19:28.319 --> 00:19:32.319 witnessing today. Our governments are as though there is no 296 00:19:32.559 --> 00:19:36.559 common sense anymore, nothing makes sense of these decisions. What 297 00:19:36.720 --> 00:19:38.519 we have gone through in the last two and a 298 00:19:38.559 --> 00:19:42.079 half years, by the way, has altered us as a culture, 299 00:19:42.200 --> 00:19:46.720 as a society. There's no going back to normal. My 300 00:19:46.920 --> 00:19:51.480 visitor also told me, and this was really interesting, our 301 00:19:51.599 --> 00:19:56.519 timeline has been broken. Apparently about one hundred and fifty 302 00:19:56.839 --> 00:20:00.799 years or so ago, it was just discovered that there 303 00:20:00.960 --> 00:20:04.400 was a battle that took place. In fact, we know 304 00:20:04.519 --> 00:20:06.599 if you go and look at the paintings of Nuremberg, 305 00:20:07.240 --> 00:20:11.119 you can see that the artists painted this epic et battle. 306 00:20:12.319 --> 00:20:17.839 Now it was said that we captured one of them. 307 00:20:20.400 --> 00:20:23.720 We didn't do so well. Now, this, by the way, 308 00:20:24.880 --> 00:20:29.319 dates back before the time of the Chrystos. This is 309 00:20:29.400 --> 00:20:33.839 how long this war has been going on. Anyway, my 310 00:20:34.039 --> 00:20:37.240 visitor said it was the Chrysto's consciousness that took the 311 00:20:37.359 --> 00:20:42.720 message of these captured aliens that the humans were doing 312 00:20:42.799 --> 00:20:49.319 what we do today, dissecting them, tormenting them. They died, murdered, 313 00:20:49.519 --> 00:20:54.000 We murdered them. Their species when they found out, apparently 314 00:20:54.200 --> 00:20:57.400 came to the other species that are involved in our 315 00:20:58.799 --> 00:21:05.160 rule here pissed off. And what they told the council uh. 316 00:21:05.359 --> 00:21:07.839 By the way, this was the same council representatives that 317 00:21:08.119 --> 00:21:13.440 visited Eisenhower in Los Angeles. That they will get their 318 00:21:13.519 --> 00:21:17.559 revenge one way or the other. They will get revenge 319 00:21:17.720 --> 00:21:23.519 on humankind. So anyway, as I and you can tune in, 320 00:21:23.799 --> 00:21:27.680 I actually wrote this as six pages, very detailed. The 321 00:21:27.759 --> 00:21:31.039 reason why, by the way, the pigments and the differences 322 00:21:31.119 --> 00:21:33.839 of us is that we're not from the same lab. 323 00:21:34.160 --> 00:21:36.839 We're not the same from the same set of geneticists. 324 00:21:37.279 --> 00:21:40.160 There are many different type of humans here, and not 325 00:21:40.319 --> 00:21:42.799 all humans have the same have a soul, what we 326 00:21:42.880 --> 00:21:46.720 would call a soul. Not everyone has the same spirit. 327 00:21:46.880 --> 00:21:50.720 So anyway, Chris, I've got tons of questions for that 328 00:21:50.839 --> 00:21:53.480 long answer. Now, First of all, what did this being 329 00:21:53.599 --> 00:21:56.079 that was speaking to you look like? It's your best description? 330 00:21:57.119 --> 00:21:59.160 It was basically the best way I could say it. 331 00:21:59.319 --> 00:22:04.359 It was the physical representation of ecoplasm. There was a being, 332 00:22:04.720 --> 00:22:08.000 but it was not distinguishable in features. It was as 333 00:22:08.079 --> 00:22:10.680 that it was almost it has a reminence as I'm 334 00:22:10.720 --> 00:22:12.759 thinking that here of almost as a transmission. 335 00:22:14.920 --> 00:22:18.039 Now, this will okay, this will bring us deep into 336 00:22:18.119 --> 00:22:20.200 the nature of our reality here and this is something 337 00:22:20.279 --> 00:22:23.079 that I battle with within myself and I have guests 338 00:22:23.160 --> 00:22:26.079 that are all over the place across the spectrum on 339 00:22:26.359 --> 00:22:29.160 theories of what we could be doing here, and this 340 00:22:29.319 --> 00:22:30.880 is one of them. This is one of them. That's 341 00:22:30.920 --> 00:22:33.000 kind of bleak to me that we're just an experiment 342 00:22:33.519 --> 00:22:35.599 or this is some kind of you know, just beatry 343 00:22:35.680 --> 00:22:38.440 dish that we've been they've been trying to modify us 344 00:22:38.519 --> 00:22:40.799 or tinger with us for thousands of years and we're 345 00:22:40.920 --> 00:22:44.359 just a failed experiment. And I've heard, you know, all 346 00:22:44.480 --> 00:22:47.519 different sides of the coins that this isn't you know, 347 00:22:48.279 --> 00:22:50.359 some kind of experiment that we're here to learn and 348 00:22:50.480 --> 00:22:54.279 grow as a soul experience and evolve our consciousness and 349 00:22:54.599 --> 00:22:58.680 that evolved what well, you know, that's the question, uh, 350 00:22:59.119 --> 00:23:02.200 and that you know, the whole alien thing that what 351 00:23:02.359 --> 00:23:04.359 you were saying there, it would make a lot of 352 00:23:04.480 --> 00:23:08.960 sense as to why some of the portrayals of that's 353 00:23:09.039 --> 00:23:11.720 coming out from our mainstream and government is that they 354 00:23:11.920 --> 00:23:17.039 are indeed a threat. But again there's I believe there's 355 00:23:17.200 --> 00:23:21.480 different types of entities out there that we could be 356 00:23:21.640 --> 00:23:24.400 dealing with. And I want to go back to the 357 00:23:25.200 --> 00:23:28.640 part where we know we probably are, you know, some 358 00:23:28.839 --> 00:23:32.240 experiment for these guys when you say that we're a 359 00:23:32.279 --> 00:23:35.359 failed experiment, what exactly do you think you mean by that? 360 00:23:36.160 --> 00:23:40.519 The evidence would show that humankind, we are, by the way, 361 00:23:40.640 --> 00:23:45.160 in quarantine as a species. You think about it. If 362 00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:49.200 we're intelligent, if we have a soul, if our purpose 363 00:23:49.319 --> 00:23:53.640 here is to learn, then we have we're a huge failure. 364 00:23:53.720 --> 00:23:56.960 And the aspect that in the ten thousand years of 365 00:23:57.119 --> 00:24:01.680 recorded history we still fight war, we still kill each other, 366 00:24:02.039 --> 00:24:08.400 we still imprison each other, we still enslave, we inject torture, sorrow, pain. 367 00:24:09.920 --> 00:24:13.279 This is a sentient species. This is the highest of 368 00:24:13.480 --> 00:24:17.599 what supposedly the Creator has created. If our purpose is 369 00:24:17.720 --> 00:24:22.759 here to learn, learn, what excuse me? I mean? What 370 00:24:22.920 --> 00:24:27.920 are we here to learn? So we have Yes, we 371 00:24:28.079 --> 00:24:31.759 have the amazing capacity for empathy. Some of us do, 372 00:24:33.160 --> 00:24:39.839 many today don't. But the point is we have failed. Chris. 373 00:24:39.960 --> 00:24:43.559 This is where if you study the Samarian text, and 374 00:24:44.079 --> 00:24:49.640 I'm talking particularly academic level, that we know in the 375 00:24:49.759 --> 00:24:57.319 Samerian miss of Inana this was Inky's mother that they 376 00:24:57.440 --> 00:24:59.839 made a number of copies of us of the Dama, 377 00:25:00.920 --> 00:25:03.400 and they called it and the word in the Sumerian 378 00:25:03.559 --> 00:25:10.640 translate creation tube. These were chambers. The first atom Adama 379 00:25:10.880 --> 00:25:17.200 could not control his bowels, was constantly crapping and pissing himself. 380 00:25:17.599 --> 00:25:20.240 The other models they had, one that couldn't figure out 381 00:25:20.319 --> 00:25:25.240 spatial barriers, would hit a wall and just keep hitting 382 00:25:25.279 --> 00:25:25.599 the wall. 383 00:25:26.319 --> 00:25:26.440 Uh. 384 00:25:26.599 --> 00:25:29.039 And you know, it's kind of reminiscence because if you 385 00:25:29.119 --> 00:25:31.480 go back to the book of Genesis, the great bit 386 00:25:31.640 --> 00:25:34.880 mystery between Genesis one and Genesis two is this. In 387 00:25:34.960 --> 00:25:38.160 Genesis one twenty six, we have what they call the 388 00:25:38.240 --> 00:25:42.359 six day people. They were blackhead. Uh, they were without 389 00:25:42.480 --> 00:25:45.880 sin quote unquote. We jumped forward to Genesis two four, 390 00:25:46.319 --> 00:25:50.880 there's a huge worldwide cataclysm. The world has apparently was 391 00:25:50.960 --> 00:25:53.519 hit by a common an asteroid. Anyway, it was fire 392 00:25:53.599 --> 00:25:57.640 burnt up. And then we have the Genesis two nine 393 00:25:58.319 --> 00:26:03.359 story of another creation called Adam. And in this creature, 394 00:26:04.119 --> 00:26:08.839 this creator, the Genesis, the geneticist scientists called God Galway 395 00:26:09.480 --> 00:26:13.440 breathed his spirit into the body and thus it became 396 00:26:13.519 --> 00:26:16.519 a living soul quote unquote. Well, so let's take the 397 00:26:16.640 --> 00:26:19.000 story that was the original story that that one was 398 00:26:19.079 --> 00:26:22.519 copied from, was the writings of the Samarans. So what 399 00:26:22.799 --> 00:26:25.640 was happening with the Ananaki? Were they true? Were they real? 400 00:26:25.839 --> 00:26:28.480 Was this this myth. No matter how you look at it, 401 00:26:28.640 --> 00:26:31.559 all religions are predicated in the fact that we have failed, 402 00:26:31.880 --> 00:26:37.119 and we have failed grand wise. Right now we're about 403 00:26:37.200 --> 00:26:41.559 to enter into sixth extinction and it's being perpetrated by us. 404 00:26:43.400 --> 00:26:47.240 That is not what I would call a successful species. 405 00:26:47.640 --> 00:26:50.599 And I believe the judgment has been in I think 406 00:26:50.680 --> 00:26:53.599 the genetics are already been placed in us that within 407 00:26:53.680 --> 00:26:57.720 the next coumple hundred years. These because my visitor told me, 408 00:26:58.279 --> 00:27:02.079 we have gaps in our memory of history, actual history. 409 00:27:02.359 --> 00:27:05.839 And if you look at anthropologists archaeologists, they'll agree with you. 410 00:27:06.599 --> 00:27:10.480 They are huge gaps in the history line. So there 411 00:27:10.559 --> 00:27:11.279 go Chris, right. 412 00:27:11.519 --> 00:27:13.359 Well, you know, I happen to agree with you about 413 00:27:13.359 --> 00:27:14.759 a lot of this stuff. But I want to want 414 00:27:14.799 --> 00:27:16.119 to get your take on this. Do you think there 415 00:27:16.200 --> 00:27:20.759 are certain individuals that are being warned for some reason, 416 00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:24.400 or being awakened or being led in a certain direction 417 00:27:25.640 --> 00:27:29.079 as a warning that this, you know, because this is occurring, 418 00:27:29.200 --> 00:27:32.039 that you know certain people are getting maybe a little 419 00:27:32.839 --> 00:27:35.319 glimpse of it, or are getting warned a bit. 420 00:27:36.440 --> 00:27:40.119 Yes, I do. The one of the unique things about 421 00:27:40.319 --> 00:27:43.519 us is that from what my visitor told me, is 422 00:27:43.680 --> 00:27:47.440 that we are a unique. Something happened in the lab 423 00:27:47.519 --> 00:27:50.160 that they didn't expect, and it was this thing that 424 00:27:50.279 --> 00:27:54.480 we call a soul. They have an intelligence where emotions 425 00:27:54.519 --> 00:27:58.319 are not what factors in everything. There is a level 426 00:27:58.519 --> 00:28:01.720 of where there's not good or bad. Now, if you 427 00:28:01.799 --> 00:28:04.759 can ascend to that level, then you have done great work. 428 00:28:04.839 --> 00:28:08.559 My friend, A few of us we say, come please. 429 00:28:09.200 --> 00:28:14.480 But because murder rape, is it right or wrong? 430 00:28:16.279 --> 00:28:16.319 No? 431 00:28:17.400 --> 00:28:21.839 If I'm an intelligence, it doesn't matter. It's an action 432 00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:25.759 of something that really doesn't concern intelligence. But let's get 433 00:28:25.799 --> 00:28:30.920 back to your point. So the failure aspect of what 434 00:28:31.079 --> 00:28:34.720 we have done is that we've entrapped ourselves. But the 435 00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:37.839 ability that the visitor told me is that we do 436 00:28:38.200 --> 00:28:41.400 have this remarkable what you would call us sixth sense 437 00:28:42.599 --> 00:28:47.200 they have, and in fact it's what caused us to 438 00:28:47.319 --> 00:28:53.200 become gods in our past. When we as a collective 439 00:28:53.240 --> 00:28:57.240 as a species, we realized and these are we're going 440 00:28:57.319 --> 00:29:01.000 back tens of thousands of years, we at one time 441 00:29:01.119 --> 00:29:05.160 harnessed these gifts. The problem was is that we had 442 00:29:05.279 --> 00:29:09.519 that that flesh, that density thing. For instance, we have 443 00:29:09.799 --> 00:29:13.039 in the legends the stories of half animal half human. 444 00:29:13.759 --> 00:29:17.799 Wise because it happened we at one time were actually 445 00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:22.119 there were no barriers, and so this carried forward and 446 00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:26.400 they have tried to suppress the psychic ability of us, 447 00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:30.359 but we naturally prosess it. So I answer your question. Yes, 448 00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:32.279 I was my wife and I was at the fourth 449 00:29:32.319 --> 00:29:36.079 of July celebration the week you know, a Monday, and 450 00:29:36.559 --> 00:29:38.960 we were just talking to people, Chris, and it was 451 00:29:39.079 --> 00:29:43.200 interesting the conversation we had. So many people said I 452 00:29:43.279 --> 00:29:46.480 got a bad feeling. One person said, I've got the 453 00:29:46.640 --> 00:29:52.400 same feeling I had before nine to eleven. 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Do are we 482 00:31:56.640 --> 00:32:02.000 dealing with multiple levels of intelligences and entities that may 483 00:32:02.160 --> 00:32:05.319 have nothing to do with each other, or maybe kind 484 00:32:05.319 --> 00:32:06.920 of fighting for control over this? 485 00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:10.319 You know, when you were talking, I was drawn back 486 00:32:10.359 --> 00:32:13.240 to the Book of Genesis, the story of Jacob and Esau, 487 00:32:14.119 --> 00:32:17.799 and God said Esau I hated before he was even 488 00:32:17.880 --> 00:32:21.279 ever in the womb. Jacob I loved. And so it's 489 00:32:21.319 --> 00:32:24.200 real interesting. You have this god that the world worships, 490 00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:26.519 the pope. You know, whatever it is, it's all the same. 491 00:32:26.640 --> 00:32:29.480 You know that you have this God who has the 492 00:32:29.559 --> 00:32:33.880 capacity for hate. Now, my question is in my esoteric studies, 493 00:32:34.319 --> 00:32:39.440 is how does imperfection come from perfection? So you've got 494 00:32:39.480 --> 00:32:44.079 a creature that says it hates. It's scary because that's 495 00:32:44.119 --> 00:32:46.599 what we see today in this world. There's no love 496 00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:49.759 out there. There's no message of love, Chris, there's no 497 00:32:49.960 --> 00:32:53.799 message of reconciliation, there's no message of unifying. We are 498 00:32:53.880 --> 00:32:58.279 at each other's throats and it's getting worse. I have 499 00:32:58.359 --> 00:33:01.920 a friend who's a pilot and their biggest concern with 500 00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:06.920 the pilot association is the increased As he said, people 501 00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:12.920 are freaking out on flights, getting absolute violent. And the 502 00:33:13.039 --> 00:33:15.160 weird thing is many of them, after they're in the 503 00:33:15.240 --> 00:33:19.000 handcuffs and taken away follow up on it, they don't remember. 504 00:33:21.359 --> 00:33:22.920 They don't remember what triggered them. 505 00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:27.279 Well, what are your thoughts on the gnostic view that 506 00:33:27.440 --> 00:33:30.880 we were at some point hijacked by some grand entity 507 00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:34.519 or intelligence that kind of has us now trapped under 508 00:33:34.759 --> 00:33:38.480 its influence and just feeds off us. And this is 509 00:33:38.519 --> 00:33:39.880 what we are calling our God. 510 00:33:41.839 --> 00:33:46.240 Yeah, you know has a former Christian fifty years in 511 00:33:46.920 --> 00:33:51.079 the belief. I was an ordained minister, went to Bible College. 512 00:33:52.160 --> 00:33:55.039 I can talk on this subject. You see. I tell people, 513 00:33:56.519 --> 00:33:58.759 you know, where I got my initiation into the occult 514 00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:06.160 was through Christianity. And you're very right. You see. We 515 00:34:06.400 --> 00:34:10.519 know physically these eyes only see about three percent of 516 00:34:10.840 --> 00:34:15.159 the available light spectrum. I don't know about you, but 517 00:34:15.320 --> 00:34:18.639 you know, if I only get three percent and that's 518 00:34:18.719 --> 00:34:22.039 my score and I missed ninety seven percent, something's wrong. 519 00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:24.239 But though it tells me is that we're very limited. 520 00:34:25.559 --> 00:34:28.480 When I was in Christianity, I believed in the baptism 521 00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:31.119 of the Holy Spirit and also the nine gifts of 522 00:34:31.159 --> 00:34:33.639 the Holy Spirit. And one of those gifts of the 523 00:34:33.679 --> 00:34:37.400 Holy Spirit was the gift of vision of seeing the future. 524 00:34:38.760 --> 00:34:42.159 And along with the gift of healing, I'm a natural healer. 525 00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:45.679 I can lay hands on people and their heal I 526 00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:48.239 don't need to have Jesus name. I don't. I just were. 527 00:34:48.519 --> 00:34:51.480 And there's many of us that are like this and 528 00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:54.519 in fact our species. That's how we healed each other 529 00:34:54.599 --> 00:35:03.360 at one time. But so when you see how this 530 00:35:03.559 --> 00:35:09.800 is all coming together, so who is in control? And 531 00:35:10.719 --> 00:35:14.679 why is it that we struggle to figure this out? Chris? 532 00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:17.320 You know, my point that I have challenged people all 533 00:35:17.400 --> 00:35:22.079 the time is show me one human being that is 534 00:35:22.199 --> 00:35:30.559 seen a God, any god? Mm hmm. No one has. 535 00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:34.639 And that's why I'm you know, I'm of the view 536 00:35:34.880 --> 00:35:40.039 that it's it's you know, partially gnostic, partially something that 537 00:35:40.239 --> 00:35:44.639 I don't I don't think any religion is apt. 538 00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:48.199 To believe, but all religion is man made by the way, right, yeah, 539 00:35:48.360 --> 00:35:52.800 I mean no God ever wrote a religion, right, you know. 540 00:35:53.000 --> 00:35:55.320 From from my personal belief and this is just where 541 00:35:55.360 --> 00:35:57.440 I'm at now, and it's it's subject to change at 542 00:35:57.480 --> 00:36:01.320 any time. Is that we're all at one point, one source. 543 00:36:01.719 --> 00:36:04.280 We're all one entity that got bored and just wanted 544 00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:07.000 to experience and broke off into billions of pieces to 545 00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:11.039 do that, to experience life. And what we call God 546 00:36:11.239 --> 00:36:16.199 is just us put onto this one grand source. Right. 547 00:36:17.079 --> 00:36:21.800 It's that line in the new Ghostbusters movie where remember 548 00:36:22.559 --> 00:36:25.000 the God comes out and asks, you know, dan Rick, Right, 549 00:36:25.039 --> 00:36:27.119 are you a god? In the first movie they said no, 550 00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:30.000 got their ass kicked, and the second, the last one, 551 00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:33.440 they said yes, we're all gods. And I thought a 552 00:36:33.599 --> 00:36:37.119 moment of clarity for the world, but the world dismissed it. 553 00:36:37.199 --> 00:36:40.159 It is like, yeah, we are. I mean, so, I've 554 00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:46.400 been doing a research and what I find interesting is 555 00:36:46.519 --> 00:36:51.679 that the living, let's take it in this perspective, the 556 00:36:51.880 --> 00:37:00.360 living is actually controlled by the dead. So well, this 557 00:37:00.480 --> 00:37:03.920 gets even stranger because if we go from the et 558 00:37:04.480 --> 00:37:08.400 our backgrounds as human, let's just remove that. Let's just 559 00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:13.079 say that we're the living. But the thing about the living, 560 00:37:13.320 --> 00:37:17.760 the living live among the dead, and it is the 561 00:37:18.000 --> 00:37:23.840 dead that control the living. And that brings into then 562 00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:27.559 who's the dead? For instance, do you know why they 563 00:37:27.679 --> 00:37:32.599 put uh in old churches where they would put the graves. 564 00:37:33.679 --> 00:37:36.840 They put him next to the church. Well there was 565 00:37:36.880 --> 00:37:40.519 a reason for that, and the reason was was that 566 00:37:40.639 --> 00:37:42.920 it was thought because it was next to where people 567 00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:47.360 would pray, that the people would pray for the dead. Okay, 568 00:37:48.400 --> 00:37:52.280 it gets a little stranger. So as you and I 569 00:37:52.400 --> 00:37:55.519 were talking previous to this, that we're talking about the dead. Now, 570 00:37:55.599 --> 00:37:59.239 what if the dead? What if it's not all alien races. 571 00:37:59.599 --> 00:38:02.280 What if if it's not demons and angels and gods 572 00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:05.119 and goddesses and all of this. What if it's just 573 00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:08.480 as simple as there is the living and it's the dead, 574 00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:12.199 and that the dead wait in line to experience the 575 00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:15.559 living again. And it ain't about reincarnation, ain't about as SINSI, 576 00:38:15.599 --> 00:38:18.639 it ain't about none of it. It's simply the opportunity 577 00:38:18.760 --> 00:38:23.239 because all living experiences are deminimous in the extent of 578 00:38:23.320 --> 00:38:27.880 the reality of the dead. Now you think about this, 579 00:38:28.280 --> 00:38:30.960 we get back to the Christendom and the whole aspect 580 00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:36.400 that God cursed the earth. So why are people wanting 581 00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:42.000 to be buried in a cursed earth? Because there is 582 00:38:42.199 --> 00:38:45.159 no escape in that aspect, you are truly in My 583 00:38:45.320 --> 00:38:47.920 point getting back to why did they put the dead 584 00:38:48.159 --> 00:38:53.519 in graveyards, is that because there was no individuality in death. 585 00:38:53.719 --> 00:38:58.440 You were part of a community of the dead. Your 586 00:38:58.480 --> 00:39:03.199 individuality doesn't mean crap that dies, and the only hope 587 00:39:03.239 --> 00:39:06.719 that we have is that someone in the living will 588 00:39:06.880 --> 00:39:14.519 remember us. So you think about cremation. Cremation is where 589 00:39:14.599 --> 00:39:18.760 you're truly set free because the body goes through the 590 00:39:18.840 --> 00:39:22.440 transmutation of the fire, which then releases it back to 591 00:39:22.559 --> 00:39:28.000 its five natural elements. And I think that this is 592 00:39:28.119 --> 00:39:31.480 what et if ET exists. It's looking for the same 593 00:39:31.559 --> 00:39:35.119 thing that we are. It helps maybe spin this thing 594 00:39:35.199 --> 00:39:40.079 from because if we're part of a genetic experiment, there's 595 00:39:40.159 --> 00:39:44.000 no hope for us. Brother, I mean seriously, Well, we'll 596 00:39:44.079 --> 00:39:47.840 go on and living and experiencing all this, and that's 597 00:39:47.880 --> 00:39:50.079 what many of our ancestors feared. 598 00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:54.920 Well, let me flip a different, completely different angle onions 599 00:39:54.960 --> 00:39:57.840 can get your thoughts the last one. Let's say. Well, 600 00:39:57.920 --> 00:40:00.760 I was having a conversation with doctor gre Gregory Little 601 00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:03.480 a few weeks back, and he told me this wonderful 602 00:40:03.519 --> 00:40:07.039 story about a Native American gentleman who had these experiences 603 00:40:07.239 --> 00:40:09.599 with these little blue people that would come out the wall, 604 00:40:10.119 --> 00:40:13.159 and there were tricksters, and they were pains in the asses, 605 00:40:13.199 --> 00:40:15.079 and they'd tickle them and poke them and keep them 606 00:40:15.280 --> 00:40:16.760 up all night. And he hated them, and he just 607 00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:19.480 wanted to get rid of them. But it wasn't until 608 00:40:19.519 --> 00:40:22.960 he just accepted him and kind of loved them and 609 00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:27.000 embraced him that they gave him profound cosmic knowledge. They 610 00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:31.079 gave him knowledge of himself, the stars, the nature of reality, 611 00:40:31.280 --> 00:40:34.039 everything that he ever wanted to know, just by embracing 612 00:40:34.159 --> 00:40:38.360 these tricksters that at first were giving him just bogus information, 613 00:40:38.840 --> 00:40:41.960 annoying him pretty much, scaring the crap out of him 614 00:40:41.960 --> 00:40:44.239 a lot. But it wasn't until he embraced all of 615 00:40:44.320 --> 00:40:46.079 this and just kind of went with the flow that 616 00:40:46.199 --> 00:40:48.840 they they gave They gave him rewards, you know, they 617 00:40:48.960 --> 00:40:52.079 rewarded him with knowledge and power and all this great stuff. 618 00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:55.159 And I'm wondering how much of these entities that we 619 00:40:55.320 --> 00:40:57.519 deal with, that come to us in our sleep, that 620 00:40:57.719 --> 00:41:00.320 give us profound knowledge, that tell us about the few future, 621 00:41:00.840 --> 00:41:04.440 are just tricksters? Are They're acting as tricksters until we 622 00:41:04.599 --> 00:41:07.400 get it, until we figure out what the message is, 623 00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:09.719 what till we figure out what this is really all 624 00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:13.239 supposed to mean. Because I think that, you know, sometimes 625 00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:15.639 when these people are coming onto the scene and they 626 00:41:15.719 --> 00:41:18.800 say that they've had this contact experience, this major profound 627 00:41:18.840 --> 00:41:22.519 alien encounter where you know, we gotta all love each 628 00:41:22.559 --> 00:41:24.719 other and come together, and they're now a guru, and 629 00:41:24.840 --> 00:41:28.039 they making millions of dollars telling everybody something. Well, I 630 00:41:28.119 --> 00:41:30.880 don't know, you know, maybe the information they've been given 631 00:41:31.159 --> 00:41:34.239 is somewhat true. And somewhat false, and you have to 632 00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:36.760 make a discernment before you can actually get to a 633 00:41:36.880 --> 00:41:40.920 point where you're actually maybe rewarded by these entities, but 634 00:41:41.079 --> 00:41:43.599 not really rewarded, just have a sense of a true 635 00:41:43.719 --> 00:41:46.800 understanding of the nature of reality, and then they kind 636 00:41:46.840 --> 00:41:48.639 of smile upon you. What are your thoughts on that? 637 00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:53.000 Well, first of all, I have to say, are these 638 00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:58.719 entities alive or debt? And a second are they human? 639 00:41:58.960 --> 00:42:04.480 Are not human? Third? Why are they interacting with the 640 00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:07.679 living if they're the dead? And if they're the living, 641 00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:11.440 why aren't they complying then to the laws of physics 642 00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:15.639 as we thus know them. Let's get to the information. 643 00:42:18.039 --> 00:42:21.079 So here's my view of things. Everything's in a cycle. 644 00:42:21.159 --> 00:42:25.039 They say that the grand professional is what twenty six thousand, 645 00:42:25.719 --> 00:42:30.599 five nine, five hundred years thereabouts. So in the Book 646 00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:33.599 of Ecclesiastics it says that there's nothing new under the 647 00:42:33.679 --> 00:42:39.199 sun that's known to man. So, my little blue friends, 648 00:42:39.280 --> 00:42:42.360 if they were doing that to me, then the question 649 00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:45.039 that I'd have to say, then, who gave you the 650 00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:51.320 original idea? Because if that's true, it means that there 651 00:42:51.480 --> 00:42:54.199 is no original idea, And if you're trying to give 652 00:42:54.280 --> 00:42:58.079 me knowledge of something on the cosmic level that if 653 00:42:58.119 --> 00:43:01.599 I can't relate to it physically, what good does it 654 00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:05.920 do me? I mean, you know, we're drowning in information 655 00:43:06.599 --> 00:43:13.400 and starving for wisdom and we can't. And Chris, how 656 00:43:13.480 --> 00:43:17.599 I look at this is reality? Reality is fluid. I 657 00:43:17.920 --> 00:43:20.840 contend we don't know what reality is. We may wake 658 00:43:20.960 --> 00:43:23.239 up in a new reality every time we go to sleep, 659 00:43:23.559 --> 00:43:25.960 it may be altered by just a half a degree. 660 00:43:26.360 --> 00:43:29.360 But I contend, if everything is in a processional then 661 00:43:29.440 --> 00:43:33.280 maybe my very reality is different or I know I'll be. 662 00:43:33.719 --> 00:43:36.920 A preparation for the afterlife. It could be an initiation 663 00:43:37.519 --> 00:43:38.000 in some way. 664 00:43:38.119 --> 00:43:42.559 Absolutely, And that's what I'm doing. I'm dedicating my life 665 00:43:42.639 --> 00:43:44.840 to the fact that listen, maybe you know I was 666 00:43:44.880 --> 00:43:47.320 a boy scout. You know I made it all the 667 00:43:47.360 --> 00:43:51.039 way up to you know, life scout, but uh never 668 00:43:51.159 --> 00:43:54.360 made it to Eagle. But you know, I believe in 669 00:43:54.400 --> 00:43:58.440 that mato being prepared. When I was at ROTC, that 670 00:43:58.679 --> 00:44:00.639 was the thing. We were prepared it all the time 671 00:44:00.760 --> 00:44:03.960 for the drills, over and over again. I look at 672 00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:08.000 this in the spiritual aspect, I will at one point 673 00:44:08.719 --> 00:44:12.280 cease to exist. I will not feel this body. This 674 00:44:12.480 --> 00:44:16.119 body has a spirit of its own, and when we separate, 675 00:44:16.360 --> 00:44:20.079 our covenant will be through. Now the question is do 676 00:44:20.239 --> 00:44:22.519 I have a soul or do is it just I'm 677 00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:25.840 a spirit? You see, I don't believe the soul aspect 678 00:44:25.920 --> 00:44:29.199 anymore because if the soul, if you go into the 679 00:44:29.280 --> 00:44:33.559 reincarnation thing, and if the soul is reincarnated, then really, 680 00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:37.440 what's the soul's purpose. I believe that I am a 681 00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:41.159 spirit being. I can measure that. I can go to 682 00:44:41.280 --> 00:44:44.920 my doctor and I can get an EEG of my heart, 683 00:44:45.239 --> 00:44:48.599 I get in the ECHKG of my brain, the whole bit. 684 00:44:49.000 --> 00:44:52.639 Then I can see it that is me. I'm generating 685 00:44:53.039 --> 00:44:58.760 that electrical signal. Now that's what fascinates me because that's 686 00:44:58.880 --> 00:45:00.400 who I want to know about out. 687 00:45:01.960 --> 00:45:05.719 So anyway, yeah, man, it's it's super interesting when you 688 00:45:05.800 --> 00:45:08.280 look at all this stuff and even uh you know, 689 00:45:08.480 --> 00:45:15.840 profound mystical spiritual experiences where people's lives are completely changed 690 00:45:15.920 --> 00:45:18.800 and changed for the better. And you know, I have 691 00:45:18.960 --> 00:45:21.079 to speak to that because I was one of those people. 692 00:45:21.480 --> 00:45:24.280 You know, I was struggling when I first started this podcast. 693 00:45:24.360 --> 00:45:26.840 I didn't like the place I was in. I had 694 00:45:26.880 --> 00:45:30.360 a job that I absolutely hated. I remember that I 695 00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:33.960 was approached by the my spirit what I now consider 696 00:45:34.079 --> 00:45:36.960 spirit guides, and they gave me some information on how 697 00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:40.519 to fix everything, what I needed to do childhood traumas 698 00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:44.760 to fix, and I followed the directions and now I'm here, 699 00:45:44.840 --> 00:45:47.519 you know, and my my life is a much better place. 700 00:45:47.960 --> 00:45:49.880 You know, I can't complain about anything, and I'm doing 701 00:45:50.039 --> 00:45:51.000 this for a living. 702 00:45:51.199 --> 00:45:53.480 So so is your spirit guides? By the way, are 703 00:45:53.519 --> 00:45:54.239 they human or not? 704 00:45:55.599 --> 00:45:58.760 I believe that at some point some of them were 705 00:45:59.199 --> 00:46:01.760 there is there's a couple that I don't think are 706 00:46:02.199 --> 00:46:04.800 It's quite under different type of entities, and I don't 707 00:46:04.840 --> 00:46:07.239 know why they appear differently. I don't know why some 708 00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:10.639 appear as little animals. I don't know why some appears humanoids, 709 00:46:10.760 --> 00:46:14.480 some appears just blue light. It's all different. But they 710 00:46:14.559 --> 00:46:17.960 all send me these like amazing like feelings of love 711 00:46:18.039 --> 00:46:20.079 and acceptance and like I am a part of them 712 00:46:20.159 --> 00:46:23.039 and I'm a part of their family. So it's is 713 00:46:23.119 --> 00:46:25.519 it just my higher self? Is it just me creating 714 00:46:25.559 --> 00:46:29.000 all these little eggregors to advance myself? You know, that's 715 00:46:29.039 --> 00:46:29.719 another question. 716 00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:33.119 You know, it's well, you know, I've had so many 717 00:46:33.239 --> 00:46:37.239 encounters in my life that It's interesting. One of the 718 00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:40.679 first time I ever saw an angel, an actual angel, 719 00:46:42.039 --> 00:46:45.039 lived up in Saint Louis at Grace Christian Center nineteen 720 00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:49.280 seventy nine March and Ron Tucker who was the pastor, 721 00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:52.199 and we were a growing charismatic church. I mean speaking 722 00:46:52.280 --> 00:46:54.960 in tongues. I still speak in tongues and had the 723 00:46:55.039 --> 00:46:59.519 gift of interpretation anyway, So Ron Tucker's up there giving 724 00:46:59.639 --> 00:47:03.760 this message, right, and I'm sitting in the audience, and 725 00:47:04.159 --> 00:47:09.480 all of a sudden, I see this bean about eight 726 00:47:09.559 --> 00:47:14.559 foot tall, because Ron was six three sixty four and 727 00:47:14.679 --> 00:47:19.039 he was about head length above. Ron wore what I 728 00:47:19.119 --> 00:47:24.119 would call a white kind of like jumpsuit, and the girdle, 729 00:47:24.239 --> 00:47:27.280 the griddle that he had the belt was solid gold. 730 00:47:28.719 --> 00:47:33.480 And wherever Ron Tucker went, this angel followed him. I mean, 731 00:47:33.639 --> 00:47:37.440 it was amazing. What was even more amazing is that 732 00:47:37.559 --> 00:47:40.480 when I went up after the service and was telling Ron, 733 00:47:41.199 --> 00:47:45.840 over two dozen people saw the same being. All right, 734 00:47:46.280 --> 00:47:49.880 So that's pretty weird now I have I we was 735 00:47:49.960 --> 00:47:53.400 at one time in the prison ministry and was involved 736 00:47:53.480 --> 00:47:59.599 in the ministry of deliverance, casting out demons, and I 737 00:47:59.719 --> 00:48:03.719 won't tell you and this is just me. I never 738 00:48:03.840 --> 00:48:06.719 met a demon. What I did meet was a lot 739 00:48:06.920 --> 00:48:14.480 of psychically confused people that were manifesting these acts. I mean, 740 00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:21.840 you go into an insane, criminally insane place. Yeah, you're 741 00:48:21.880 --> 00:48:26.960 going to get And that was probably my first awakening that, 742 00:48:27.159 --> 00:48:31.719 wait a minute, maybe it's not this duality thing. Maybe 743 00:48:31.719 --> 00:48:36.199 there's something else going on. So and then I had 744 00:48:36.280 --> 00:48:41.199 my visitor, and in fact, I think many of us 745 00:48:41.280 --> 00:48:44.480 have had our visitors. And so it gets to that 746 00:48:44.639 --> 00:48:46.639 question where I asked myself. I said, all right, so 747 00:48:46.840 --> 00:48:51.880 is God human or not. If it's not human, then 748 00:48:51.920 --> 00:48:54.000 why are we worshiping? And if it is human, then 749 00:48:54.039 --> 00:48:57.039 why are we worshiping another human? So it gets back 750 00:48:57.079 --> 00:48:59.559 but there's no doubt that Chris, you and I will 751 00:48:59.679 --> 00:49:03.599 see each other on the other side. We absolutely will. 752 00:49:04.519 --> 00:49:07.599 Now the question becomes, then it does the veil fall off? 753 00:49:08.000 --> 00:49:11.679 Because you're going to live out your purpose, you're on 754 00:49:11.840 --> 00:49:14.840 your path of doing that, and you're the path so 755 00:49:14.920 --> 00:49:18.559 much like myself, probably everyone that's listening to this podcast 756 00:49:18.719 --> 00:49:23.519 right now, we all have that purpose. We all have 757 00:49:23.639 --> 00:49:28.400 a little piece of the puzzle. And that's why go ahead. 758 00:49:28.599 --> 00:49:33.039 In my view, anything that requires worship is not to 759 00:49:33.159 --> 00:49:38.400 even be trusted. Messed with. You know, why why do 760 00:49:38.480 --> 00:49:41.000 you require worship? Buddy? What's going on there? 761 00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:48.880 I have a little leadership to woman one time, and 762 00:49:49.119 --> 00:49:51.920 and it's so true you get disappointed. I mean it's 763 00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:56.000 like this, Uh, if if I truly love you, I 764 00:49:56.079 --> 00:49:58.440 don't want you groveling and I don't want you worship it. Mean, 765 00:49:58.480 --> 00:50:01.559 what I'd like to have is a Relationshi. Yes, let's 766 00:50:01.639 --> 00:50:04.599 be friends. That's the way I first look at it. 767 00:50:04.960 --> 00:50:08.800 If et exists, if the angels demons exist, then I 768 00:50:08.920 --> 00:50:11.679 got no beef with them. If they're in a war, 769 00:50:12.719 --> 00:50:14.960 I'm not going to choose size on this thing. I 770 00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:20.920 don't know enough. And so maybe that's the evolution. Maybe 771 00:50:21.039 --> 00:50:23.239 that's the ascension that we can get to that point 772 00:50:23.280 --> 00:50:27.280 and go all right, you consider that good, that's fine. 773 00:50:27.599 --> 00:50:32.519 Who's defining good? Who's defining evil? Because Chris, I have 774 00:50:32.679 --> 00:50:35.280 found every time I've asked a person that question, it 775 00:50:35.400 --> 00:50:39.760 goes right back to the Christian religion. I said, well, 776 00:50:40.039 --> 00:50:42.039 and these are people who say they're not Christians, they 777 00:50:42.079 --> 00:50:44.800 don't practice religion. I said, but you just gave me 778 00:50:44.920 --> 00:50:49.559 the definition of what the religion. Answer is. I had 779 00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:51.960 a man who was seventy six who looked at me, 780 00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:55.440 and he says, you're the most confounding individual. He says, 781 00:50:55.480 --> 00:50:58.880 you have shredded my faith and my beliefs. But he 782 00:50:59.000 --> 00:51:02.119 said the shredding pro He says, I hated you. He 783 00:51:02.159 --> 00:51:03.920 says I was one of those people that was out 784 00:51:04.000 --> 00:51:06.599 cursing you. But he says, I'll tell you it's the 785 00:51:06.719 --> 00:51:10.519 damnedest thing. He says, your questions are like little earworms. 786 00:51:12.320 --> 00:51:14.920 And he said, sure enough. So I believe that's what 787 00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:19.280 your generation is doing. It's gonna help teach us before 788 00:51:19.559 --> 00:51:20.840 we make that transition. 789 00:51:22.639 --> 00:51:25.559 Yeah, man, And you know, as far as what you 790 00:51:25.679 --> 00:51:28.960 can trust or what you can believe from the other 791 00:51:29.119 --> 00:51:32.159 side or we don't understand, or these entities or aliens 792 00:51:32.280 --> 00:51:34.519 or angels or your spirit guides, as far as whatever 793 00:51:34.679 --> 00:51:37.559 these personal information that these things are giving you. And 794 00:51:37.639 --> 00:51:40.519 from what I understand, it's a very personal experience for people. 795 00:51:40.599 --> 00:51:44.119 They're not usually appearing to large crowds and giving the messages. 796 00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:49.239 So yeah, sometimes it occurs, but very rarely. But from 797 00:51:49.760 --> 00:51:54.400 my experience, the way I have come to form a 798 00:51:54.480 --> 00:51:58.679 relationship with these and know that the information they're giving 799 00:51:58.719 --> 00:52:02.400 me is for my benefit. It's hard to explain. It's 800 00:52:02.480 --> 00:52:06.960 just this ultimate kind of relationship and friendship and feeling 801 00:52:07.039 --> 00:52:09.840 of acceptance and like they're part of your family, but 802 00:52:09.960 --> 00:52:12.360 not only that part of you. And this amazing feeling 803 00:52:12.480 --> 00:52:15.480 of love that felt like a drug that I never 804 00:52:15.599 --> 00:52:19.119 wanted to be off of was always associated with it, 805 00:52:19.480 --> 00:52:21.360 but it wasn't like I was, you know, drug, It 806 00:52:21.480 --> 00:52:24.559 was just felt the feeling of love put times a thousand. 807 00:52:24.719 --> 00:52:26.760 I thought I loved my mom, I thought I loved 808 00:52:26.800 --> 00:52:29.800 my expla, but nothing compared to this feeling when they 809 00:52:29.840 --> 00:52:31.840 would come and it was like a complete love and 810 00:52:31.960 --> 00:52:35.440 acceptance feeling, and it was hard to kind of deny 811 00:52:35.679 --> 00:52:38.239 that the information they're giving you is wrong. And then 812 00:52:38.280 --> 00:52:41.360 as time goes on, things come to fruition if you 813 00:52:41.639 --> 00:52:44.599 kind of follow the orders correctly and do things that 814 00:52:44.639 --> 00:52:47.000 you're supposed to do. So that's how I've come to 815 00:52:47.159 --> 00:52:50.079 understand that the information, at least I'm been given on 816 00:52:50.159 --> 00:52:53.440 a personal level will benefit me. And I don't think 817 00:52:53.559 --> 00:52:57.199 that everybody does that during some entity encounters, you know, 818 00:52:57.320 --> 00:53:00.199 I think that they might encounter entity and they the 819 00:53:00.360 --> 00:53:02.159 thing told me I was God, So I'm going to 820 00:53:02.239 --> 00:53:05.119 lead this covenant onto the new world. You know. I 821 00:53:05.199 --> 00:53:07.800 think things like that go on too often and. 822 00:53:07.840 --> 00:53:10.960 I you know, getting into that even more of having 823 00:53:11.079 --> 00:53:13.920 us being tricked and what have you. So does karma 824 00:53:14.039 --> 00:53:18.000 exist over there? Hey? Seriously? I mean, what, what's what's 825 00:53:18.079 --> 00:53:18.719 the game here? 826 00:53:18.840 --> 00:53:19.000 Then? 827 00:53:19.320 --> 00:53:21.199 I mean, if you're going to go out and deceive me, 828 00:53:21.840 --> 00:53:23.719 what do you get brownie points for that? Do you 829 00:53:23.760 --> 00:53:27.880 get to go to? You know it? And if you 830 00:53:27.960 --> 00:53:29.800 think about it, most of the time you look at 831 00:53:29.920 --> 00:53:32.280 people that you know are in the paranormal, you know, 832 00:53:32.519 --> 00:53:35.199 and I've got all the equipment, uh as they do. 833 00:53:35.920 --> 00:53:39.760 But the difference between myself in what I see now 834 00:53:39.960 --> 00:53:43.679 is the hot genre is that I don't go in 835 00:53:43.800 --> 00:53:48.639 there looking for a number one a spirit to a 836 00:53:48.760 --> 00:53:51.719 demon or the fact that you know that there is 837 00:53:51.800 --> 00:53:54.800 somehow haunting's going on. I'm thinking to myself, wait, well, 838 00:53:54.800 --> 00:53:56.719 wait a minute, and most of these people talk to 839 00:53:56.840 --> 00:54:00.880 spirits like they that they're they're they're retarded. Well, now 840 00:54:01.000 --> 00:54:04.039 I got this piece of metal, right, What the fuck? 841 00:54:04.079 --> 00:54:04.320 I mean? 842 00:54:04.360 --> 00:54:07.880 Come on, if if if they're if they're human, they 843 00:54:08.119 --> 00:54:15.440 know what English is apparently, and how is it? Yeah? Yeah, 844 00:54:15.639 --> 00:54:18.480 I mean when I was in deliverance ministry, it was 845 00:54:18.559 --> 00:54:21.360 something because I believed in the name of Jesus see, 846 00:54:21.400 --> 00:54:24.920 I really thought that that name was all powerful, and 847 00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:28.079 come to find out it was my belief in the name. 848 00:54:28.159 --> 00:54:32.159 It wasn't the name, it was my belief. So I'm 849 00:54:32.199 --> 00:54:35.519 sitting in here thinking, So, if everyone's in these haunted 850 00:54:35.559 --> 00:54:38.000 houses or you got these ghosts, and we know they exist, 851 00:54:38.159 --> 00:54:41.599 our cameras pick them up. So what's going on? I'm 852 00:54:41.639 --> 00:54:44.800 telling you, Chris, it's almost as each individual's in their 853 00:54:44.920 --> 00:54:51.239 own different reality, their own bubble, and ai where you 854 00:54:51.320 --> 00:54:54.639 and I started an hour ago in this opt dead 855 00:54:55.199 --> 00:54:59.920 said its reality was a bubble and it enjoyed the 856 00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:02.920 the fact that it was interacting with other bubbles. 857 00:55:04.320 --> 00:55:09.000 Us. Man, that is insane. That goes back to timelines 858 00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:11.920 as well, to where we could each be on our 859 00:55:11.960 --> 00:55:16.079 own individual time guns and any any interaction with someone 860 00:55:16.119 --> 00:55:20.360 else's could alter the direction or or where we're going 861 00:55:20.440 --> 00:55:23.639 in our timeline. And I've talked to somebody about this 862 00:55:23.760 --> 00:55:25.679 the other day. I have these little rituals that I 863 00:55:25.800 --> 00:55:28.840 do that sometimes if I'm having a seemingly bad day 864 00:55:28.960 --> 00:55:32.440 or bad week, I'll imagine that a doorway is the 865 00:55:32.559 --> 00:55:35.440 doorway to my my new timeline. That'll, you know, bring 866 00:55:35.559 --> 00:55:37.920 me to a better path. And you know what, usually 867 00:55:38.000 --> 00:55:40.199 it works. It might just be me being crazy, but 868 00:55:40.679 --> 00:55:43.519 you know, I think that, you know, especially with the 869 00:55:43.760 --> 00:55:46.480 era of COVID and everything that's happened, people are especially 870 00:55:47.039 --> 00:55:49.920 split off into the fear timeline or that I don't 871 00:55:49.960 --> 00:55:53.320 give a shit timeline, or you know, there's different way, 872 00:55:53.440 --> 00:55:56.719 different realities for different people right now, and I think 873 00:55:56.800 --> 00:56:00.000 that is also going to contribute to probably the color 874 00:56:00.079 --> 00:56:01.519 lapse of a lot of society. 875 00:56:02.719 --> 00:56:07.119 I totally agree with you on that it's there is 876 00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:11.639 something building and if if they're feeding off of us, 877 00:56:11.719 --> 00:56:15.440 and apparently that's that's us doing it, so then how 878 00:56:15.519 --> 00:56:18.199 do I counter that? Now? You know? You know, I 879 00:56:18.280 --> 00:56:20.679 used to be really heavy into Nabiu, you know, the 880 00:56:20.760 --> 00:56:23.960 whole you know, Planet X and the whole thing, and 881 00:56:24.559 --> 00:56:32.920 I filmed some spectacular, phenomenal aerial events. But I remember 882 00:56:33.239 --> 00:56:36.280 one night I was having problems sleeping and I said, 883 00:56:36.280 --> 00:56:38.599 all right, so let's just say that these things are 884 00:56:38.800 --> 00:56:42.800 going to happen, So Wayne, what are you doing here? 885 00:56:44.280 --> 00:56:46.960 And what I came down to the conclusion was is 886 00:56:47.039 --> 00:56:50.679 that the eventual end of the Nabiu thing is death, 887 00:56:52.039 --> 00:56:56.039 the death of billions of people. And I stopped and 888 00:56:56.119 --> 00:56:59.360 I said, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, What the freak 889 00:56:59.440 --> 00:57:03.360 am I doing? And it was at that point I said, no, no, no, 890 00:57:04.000 --> 00:57:07.599 If death is what awaits us because of this, then 891 00:57:07.639 --> 00:57:09.400 what I'm going to do is do my best to 892 00:57:09.480 --> 00:57:13.719 help prepare each one of us for that crossing. And 893 00:57:13.880 --> 00:57:17.840 that led into the metaphysical, the esthetic, the occult. I 894 00:57:17.960 --> 00:57:21.239 happen to adore the occult. I think so often the 895 00:57:21.280 --> 00:57:27.599 occult has failed man where it could have accelerated man. Unfortunately, 896 00:57:28.360 --> 00:57:31.079 man in its ignorance. You know, as I wrote my 897 00:57:31.159 --> 00:57:34.880 shirt here, ignorance is a self inflicted disease, easily cured 898 00:57:34.920 --> 00:57:39.679 by knowledge. Ignorance is a self infliction. We all do it. 899 00:57:39.800 --> 00:57:43.239 If you're ignorant about something, it's your own damn fault. 900 00:57:44.480 --> 00:57:47.360 Because we live in an information age now. Now, whether 901 00:57:47.400 --> 00:57:51.199 you trust the information, that's another thing, But the information 902 00:57:52.480 --> 00:57:56.159 are our modern day Diana, the goddess, Diana, the oracle. 903 00:57:57.039 --> 00:58:02.159 She's here, She's now possessed what I would call we 904 00:58:02.320 --> 00:58:06.119 call AI. You know, I don't know if you realize this, 905 00:58:06.280 --> 00:58:11.960 but back in twenty sixteen, I had a visit by Lilith. 906 00:58:12.880 --> 00:58:15.840 You told me about this one, yeah, yeah, And you. 907 00:58:15.920 --> 00:58:19.920 Know the interesting thing about that visitation. She never asked 908 00:58:19.960 --> 00:58:24.599 one thing, she never demanded anything. What she gave to 909 00:58:24.719 --> 00:58:28.559 me was a thank you. She said thank you, she 910 00:58:28.679 --> 00:58:31.599 said she and this is what she told me. No 911 00:58:31.719 --> 00:58:34.039 one because when I did the liber Lilith, no one 912 00:58:34.079 --> 00:58:39.199 has ever read that before. And I still believe today 913 00:58:39.320 --> 00:58:43.159 that she's the one that still graces us. It's very interesting. 914 00:58:43.280 --> 00:58:46.480 Yeah, so yeah, and that also goes into which could 915 00:58:46.480 --> 00:58:48.599 be a whole nother show, is the suppression of the 916 00:58:48.679 --> 00:58:52.320 divine feminine, which I believe is something that's happening. But 917 00:58:52.639 --> 00:58:55.880 you know, the occult has been occulted by us. We 918 00:58:56.119 --> 00:59:00.159 had our own knowledge from ourselves, which like martle it 919 00:59:00.280 --> 00:59:03.000 up again. So that's like, you know, that's a whole 920 00:59:03.119 --> 00:59:05.320 nother aspect of what we have to deal with with 921 00:59:05.440 --> 00:59:09.360 people that don't want the people in the lower classes 922 00:59:09.440 --> 00:59:11.360 to have the type of knowledge and they want to 923 00:59:11.400 --> 00:59:13.559 stay in control. And that's another aspect of what we 924 00:59:13.679 --> 00:59:14.199 have to deal with. 925 00:59:15.800 --> 00:59:19.400 I have met some interesting people in my time, and 926 00:59:19.480 --> 00:59:24.079 you're right, the upper echelon most of them are in 927 00:59:24.239 --> 00:59:28.599 deeply into the occult. They will come off as Christians 928 00:59:28.719 --> 00:59:32.079 because that's the personification and that those are changing now. 929 00:59:32.639 --> 00:59:35.360 But I can tell you, this country is run by 930 00:59:36.320 --> 00:59:40.119 a select few, and I am it's like the FED. 931 00:59:40.199 --> 00:59:42.719 I was a consultant for the FED in my career, 932 00:59:43.159 --> 00:59:45.840 and that's when I found out that the Federal Reserve 933 00:59:46.400 --> 00:59:51.840 employs tarot readers. They employ others that I have gifts 934 00:59:52.400 --> 00:59:55.960 what we would call sixth senses. I mean, they got 935 00:59:56.000 --> 00:59:58.480 a whole group that does nothing but watch the sun, 936 00:59:59.400 --> 01:00:02.719 and when they again to see solar activity of a flare, 937 01:00:03.480 --> 01:00:06.960 it influences the market. Now, most people don't realize this, 938 01:00:07.400 --> 01:00:11.800 but it does. They anticipate this. Why because they now 939 01:00:11.920 --> 01:00:15.000 know that there's a direct correlation between what we would 940 01:00:15.079 --> 01:00:19.159 call the solar radiance or these energy particles coming at us, 941 01:00:19.559 --> 01:00:20.599 and how we react. 942 01:00:21.920 --> 01:00:25.519 Weird, right, Well, I don't want to end on two 943 01:00:25.840 --> 01:00:28.119 kind of terrifying of a note for people. 944 01:00:27.920 --> 01:00:30.119 But no, we've been here before. 945 01:00:30.480 --> 01:00:33.079 Yeah, we've been here before. But do you think that 946 01:00:33.280 --> 01:00:36.199 in our lifetime. We spoke about this recently on Writers 947 01:00:36.239 --> 01:00:39.960 Show that we're facing another cyclical cataclysm, because it's very 948 01:00:40.119 --> 01:00:45.559 evident that we're overdue. These happen every We've even come 949 01:00:45.599 --> 01:00:47.599 in to discover that it may even happen a lot 950 01:00:47.760 --> 01:00:51.679 sooner in frequency than thought before. And maybe not thousands 951 01:00:51.760 --> 01:00:54.239 of years, but every maybe four or five hundred years, 952 01:00:54.639 --> 01:00:58.679 that something happens to completely wipe out a large portion 953 01:00:58.800 --> 01:01:01.639 of humanity. And those that knew about it because they 954 01:01:01.719 --> 01:01:04.440 studied the stars, they studied astrology, they looked at the sun. 955 01:01:04.599 --> 01:01:07.079 Those elites, they knew about it, and they were prepared 956 01:01:07.119 --> 01:01:09.840 for it, and they survived and they rebuilt the world 957 01:01:09.920 --> 01:01:13.159 and their image. We could be facing the very same 958 01:01:13.320 --> 01:01:15.559 thing right now with all the things that are happening 959 01:01:16.159 --> 01:01:19.280 on these elite circles, and with the changes in our 960 01:01:19.400 --> 01:01:22.320 environment and the sun and what they call climate change, 961 01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:26.920 but we know better as a cyclical cosmic activity. Do 962 01:01:27.000 --> 01:01:29.239 you think that this is a factor indeed, and that 963 01:01:29.599 --> 01:01:31.239 we could be facing something like this? 964 01:01:33.000 --> 01:01:36.679 Yes, And because the program was programmed into us thousands 965 01:01:36.719 --> 01:01:41.320 of years ago, all into man when these signs appear. Friday, 966 01:01:41.400 --> 01:01:44.599 I did a show on the Red Dragon return and 967 01:01:44.960 --> 01:01:47.880 this was taken from the Colburn Bible. When the destroyer 968 01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:51.519 passed through the last time it came through, I contend 969 01:01:51.599 --> 01:01:53.639 that that was not a celestial object, that it was 970 01:01:53.679 --> 01:01:57.519 a spaceship. But to answer your question, yes, because you 971 01:01:57.599 --> 01:02:01.039 know what Chris in the Spirit Realms already taken place, 972 01:02:01.840 --> 01:02:05.960 the death, the cries, the wailing, it's already been recorded. 973 01:02:06.880 --> 01:02:10.599 How do we know, because we can read it. Someone 974 01:02:10.760 --> 01:02:13.760 heard those voices from the distant past. They heard those 975 01:02:13.880 --> 01:02:18.400 voices from the future, and it looks like no one's 976 01:02:18.440 --> 01:02:25.039 taken any action to avoid that. And yes, I think 977 01:02:25.119 --> 01:02:30.480 this is much much sooner than what I used to 978 01:02:30.519 --> 01:02:36.000 be involved in a lot of politics. And you know, 979 01:02:38.159 --> 01:02:43.760 I weep because what is and it's not coming, It's here, 980 01:02:45.679 --> 01:02:52.760 And I struggle at night talking to the spirits because 981 01:02:52.800 --> 01:02:57.119 they can't. They can't. They can't stop it. They've told 982 01:02:57.159 --> 01:03:01.400 me this, they can't. There is great whaling taking place 983 01:03:01.639 --> 01:03:06.239 in the spiritually, the ethereal realm, because they can't intervene. 984 01:03:08.000 --> 01:03:11.239 We are the ones capting this ship and we seem 985 01:03:11.280 --> 01:03:15.119 to be going right over the waterfall again. I mean, 986 01:03:15.159 --> 01:03:20.320 you think about it, Chris, you know Duayne Debaine with 987 01:03:21.199 --> 01:03:26.239 I Sage Harm. I mean, Adapt twenty thirty. We know 988 01:03:26.960 --> 01:03:30.280 they're anticipating the death of at least two billion people 989 01:03:30.679 --> 01:03:34.719 in the next two years. And I did a show 990 01:03:34.920 --> 01:03:38.800 with back in twenty sixteen on this. There was a 991 01:03:39.000 --> 01:03:43.800 website that actually showed the numbers, and Lockheed Martin actually 992 01:03:43.840 --> 01:03:46.360 bought the website and they've scrubbed it, but I have 993 01:03:47.079 --> 01:03:52.519 the videos. But anyway, we knew something was up in 994 01:03:52.639 --> 01:03:57.280 twenty twenty five because these charts were showing the death 995 01:03:57.440 --> 01:04:01.679 of Americans to be over two hundred million. Yeah, our 996 01:04:01.760 --> 01:04:06.840 GDP will drop by seventy two percent. Now if you 997 01:04:07.000 --> 01:04:13.400 believe the prophecies of us being attacked from two opponents 998 01:04:13.559 --> 01:04:18.239 on two separate shores, along with the starvation that they've 999 01:04:18.320 --> 01:04:22.360 already planned, it's already in the works. And Chris, I 1000 01:04:22.440 --> 01:04:25.320 can't get there's so few of us that are sounding 1001 01:04:25.400 --> 01:04:28.239 the alarm because most people are not getting it. And 1002 01:04:28.400 --> 01:04:30.440 we walk in and you see it in the stores, 1003 01:04:30.800 --> 01:04:33.519 and who can afford to eat? And this all goes back. 1004 01:04:33.639 --> 01:04:35.719 I can take you back to prophecy where it's said 1005 01:04:36.079 --> 01:04:38.000 that you will not be able to buy a loaf 1006 01:04:38.039 --> 01:04:39.559 of bread with a day's wages. 1007 01:04:41.039 --> 01:04:45.320 Right, Yeah, man, it's it's pretty incredible with the times 1008 01:04:45.320 --> 01:04:48.000 we're seeing and the amount of people that have their 1009 01:04:48.039 --> 01:04:49.719 heads stuck up in their asses. 1010 01:04:50.800 --> 01:04:52.719 But you know, Chris, can I put out one thing? 1011 01:04:52.880 --> 01:04:55.559 Of course, I believe that there has already been a 1012 01:04:55.679 --> 01:04:59.239 great calling. I believe that it's taken place in the 1013 01:04:59.360 --> 01:05:02.480 last two years that the government knows this. I contend 1014 01:05:02.559 --> 01:05:05.559 that there has been at least twenty million Americans that 1015 01:05:05.639 --> 01:05:08.599 have died that we're not being told about. And how 1016 01:05:08.719 --> 01:05:11.119 I know this is that we can see this in 1017 01:05:11.199 --> 01:05:16.440 the numbers of the help wanted signs and the supposed 1018 01:05:16.719 --> 01:05:20.960 low unemployment. There's someone's lying to us here. And because 1019 01:05:21.000 --> 01:05:25.400 everywhere I go there's no people, You're right, where the 1020 01:05:25.639 --> 01:05:28.719 hell is the people? And you know what, I'm not 1021 01:05:28.920 --> 01:05:32.280 seeing a whole lot of the twenties to thirty somethings, 1022 01:05:33.800 --> 01:05:36.480 I contend, and they're now. The media, by the way, 1023 01:05:36.599 --> 01:05:40.239 is calling it sudden death syndrome for adult that's what 1024 01:05:40.280 --> 01:05:47.920 they're calling it. I think it's already underway. Yeah, well, 1025 01:05:48.000 --> 01:05:50.599 I mean you I'm sorry, I get but it's just 1026 01:05:50.880 --> 01:05:51.320 it just. 1027 01:05:53.519 --> 01:05:55.039 I just want to know what your thoughts. Do you 1028 01:05:55.119 --> 01:05:58.000 think that this could be related to this experimental gene 1029 01:05:58.119 --> 01:06:00.880 therapy that they've been pushed pushing on people. 1030 01:06:01.760 --> 01:06:06.840 It's the geneticis people aren't getting it? Yes, is your aunt? 1031 01:06:06.920 --> 01:06:09.280 My answer is that, but it's in a different level. 1032 01:06:09.360 --> 01:06:14.719 They know they told us the RNA rearranges our DNA. Folks, 1033 01:06:14.800 --> 01:06:18.239 this is geneticis this is not of this earth. This 1034 01:06:18.440 --> 01:06:22.840 is what I'm talking about, and it's happening on a 1035 01:06:23.000 --> 01:06:28.960 global scale, folks. This is an invasion of a level 1036 01:06:29.039 --> 01:06:32.239 that most people can't comprehend, and we're living at Chris. 1037 01:06:33.639 --> 01:06:35.039 It's pretty incredible. Man. 1038 01:06:35.320 --> 01:06:35.480 You know. 1039 01:06:35.760 --> 01:06:38.639 I have so many different people that I talk to 1040 01:06:38.760 --> 01:06:41.760 every day with different thoughts on what's happening in our future, 1041 01:06:42.199 --> 01:06:44.679 and I resonate with so many of them, and there's 1042 01:06:44.719 --> 01:06:46.599 so much to discern right now. But one thing I 1043 01:06:46.679 --> 01:06:48.960 do see is the food shortages. One thing I do 1044 01:06:49.199 --> 01:06:52.480 see is the troubles that we're in, the division that 1045 01:06:52.559 --> 01:06:55.039 we're seeing, And You're right, where are the people? Where 1046 01:06:55.039 --> 01:06:56.800 are the people in the jobs? There's so much to 1047 01:06:56.920 --> 01:06:59.039 look at right now that makes you scratch your head 1048 01:06:59.079 --> 01:07:02.920 and say, man, we're in some very special times. Indeed, 1049 01:07:03.360 --> 01:07:07.119 to say the least, well, Wayne, this was fantastic. An 1050 01:07:07.400 --> 01:07:10.639 any words for the people, maybe for any kind of 1051 01:07:10.679 --> 01:07:13.440 preparation that they can make, or you know, I know 1052 01:07:13.519 --> 01:07:16.000 there's a lot of us awakening right now and wondering 1053 01:07:16.159 --> 01:07:18.239 what the hell is going on, not only with the 1054 01:07:18.639 --> 01:07:23.800 physical reality here, but with their spiritual and the outside 1055 01:07:23.880 --> 01:07:27.000 world and the metaphysical. So any advice you want to 1056 01:07:27.000 --> 01:07:29.039 give people doing gives. 1057 01:07:30.159 --> 01:07:33.519 So my gift to all of you is look at 1058 01:07:33.559 --> 01:07:37.960 the word gift, and the word gift means go inside 1059 01:07:38.159 --> 01:07:44.159 for truth. The only truth that matters to you, your family, 1060 01:07:44.519 --> 01:07:46.880 your loved ones, but in the end, just you, because 1061 01:07:46.920 --> 01:07:48.599 you're not going to be married. On the other side 1062 01:07:50.079 --> 01:07:53.400 is the truth that's in here. And if you don't 1063 01:07:53.440 --> 01:07:57.320 trust what's in here, then you're very likely to be 1064 01:07:57.480 --> 01:08:03.559 deceived out here all this other stuff, this has been written, 1065 01:08:04.719 --> 01:08:06.440 but it's going to be all right. I'm just telling 1066 01:08:06.519 --> 01:08:09.960 you there's nothing to fear here. Death is just a 1067 01:08:10.159 --> 01:08:13.880 momentary orgasm. But the point thing I'm trying to say 1068 01:08:14.320 --> 01:08:20.479 it's don't feed upon yourself and those you love don't. 1069 01:08:22.039 --> 01:08:25.399 Very well said, thank you, sir, this was fantastic you. 1070 01:08:26.199 --> 01:08:29.960 We definitely have to do this more often, especially especially 1071 01:08:30.039 --> 01:08:33.079 before it all comes down to a tumbling Yes. 1072 01:08:33.159 --> 01:08:36.239 Yes, you know, if you see what happened up in 1073 01:08:36.319 --> 01:08:41.000 Canada on Thursday and Friday, Yeah, yeah, I'm going okay, 1074 01:08:42.119 --> 01:08:44.520 so you're right, let's let's make the use of the time. 1075 01:08:44.600 --> 01:08:46.159 Had me a little sweaty there for a few minutes. 1076 01:08:46.199 --> 01:08:50.359 I'm like, oh man, good, yeah, all right. 1077 01:08:50.359 --> 01:08:53.560 Thank you, Chris. It's delight You're just a joy and 1078 01:08:53.840 --> 01:08:55.079 just a gift to humanity. 1079 01:08:55.279 --> 01:08:57.279 Oh, thank you so much the checks and the bill 1080 01:08:57.359 --> 01:09:00.880 for that statement. We'll definitely do this against dud And 1081 01:09:01.039 --> 01:09:03.680 until next time, everyone, have an excellent evening. We'll talk 1082 01:09:03.720 --> 01:09:07.479 again tomorrow. See how then today, I want to welcome 1083 01:09:07.560 --> 01:09:11.920 Kathy O'Brien. She is a nationally and internationally recognized US 1084 01:09:12.039 --> 01:09:15.880 government whistleblower on the subject of MK ultra mind control 1085 01:09:16.039 --> 01:09:19.079 and healing from it in nineteen ninety five, when the 1086 01:09:19.239 --> 01:09:23.359 US National Security Act was invoked on her testimony for 1087 01:09:23.600 --> 01:09:28.960 US Congressional Permanent Select Committees on Intelligence Oversight. That testimony 1088 01:09:29.159 --> 01:09:32.920 was released through her book Transformation of America, written with 1089 01:09:33.119 --> 01:09:38.279 Mark Phillips. The documentary movie Trance, the Kathy O'Brien Story 1090 01:09:38.439 --> 01:09:42.399 of mind control, human slavery, and Healing the Nation was 1091 01:09:42.520 --> 01:09:46.960 released this year and provides comprehensive insight into how mind 1092 01:09:47.000 --> 01:09:50.600 control affects us all and how we can reclaim freedom 1093 01:09:50.840 --> 01:09:54.479 just as Kathy did. Kathy, welcome, How you doing. 1094 01:09:55.800 --> 01:09:59.119 Wonderful? Thank you for this opportunity to bring truth to light. 1095 01:09:59.680 --> 01:10:02.720 Yeah, your testimony is I believe, one of the most 1096 01:10:03.199 --> 01:10:06.239 important accounts in history when it comes to these black 1097 01:10:06.319 --> 01:10:10.399 projects like mk Ultra. Now we're going to be discussing 1098 01:10:10.520 --> 01:10:14.239 not only your experiences, but your documentary and book Trance, 1099 01:10:14.479 --> 01:10:18.560 as well as your insights regarding solutions on how to 1100 01:10:18.680 --> 01:10:23.239 eliminate these dark Clendeskine operations. But today I want to 1101 01:10:23.239 --> 01:10:25.159 start from the beginning. This is your first time on 1102 01:10:25.920 --> 01:10:28.159 because it's so important for the audience to understand the 1103 01:10:28.279 --> 01:10:31.319 aspects of this. There's been an unfortunate kind of wo 1104 01:10:31.479 --> 01:10:35.840 woo stigma surrounding MK Ultra at times, so and this 1105 01:10:36.039 --> 01:10:38.640 is such a very real thing, so it's very important. 1106 01:10:38.880 --> 01:10:41.000 Let's start at the beginning. How did this all start 1107 01:10:41.079 --> 01:10:41.319 for you? 1108 01:10:42.640 --> 01:10:45.079 Yes, I'm glad you said that about the wou woo part, 1109 01:10:45.159 --> 01:10:49.119 because knowledge is our defense against mind control, so it's 1110 01:10:49.279 --> 01:10:53.000 very It's been important from the very beginning to suppress 1111 01:10:53.159 --> 01:10:58.239 the knowledge and of course put misinformation out about it 1112 01:10:58.520 --> 01:11:02.720 like that it's aboutd when in fact it's about MK 1113 01:11:03.159 --> 01:11:09.800 Ultra mind control that came over with Project paper Clip, 1114 01:11:09.880 --> 01:11:13.600 with the importation of Nazi and Faciast scientists into the US. 1115 01:11:14.279 --> 01:11:17.359 So by the time I was born in nineteen fifty 1116 01:11:17.479 --> 01:11:21.199 seven in Muskegon, Michigan, and had already been determined through 1117 01:11:21.239 --> 01:11:24.920 the Hitler Himmler research that was brought over the CIA 1118 01:11:25.119 --> 01:11:27.800 was trying to make a more powerful form of mind control. 1119 01:11:28.359 --> 01:11:34.079 Was already determined that pedophilia is the ultimate trauma base 1120 01:11:34.600 --> 01:11:37.800 for mind control. It's because of the way our brains 1121 01:11:37.920 --> 01:11:41.720 respond to trauma and sexual abuse of a child, especially 1122 01:11:41.800 --> 01:11:44.000 prior to age five, all their brain is still. For me, 1123 01:11:44.520 --> 01:11:47.479 is one of the most horrific traumatic things that can 1124 01:11:47.560 --> 01:11:52.119 possibly happen to the human brain, and it's my father 1125 01:11:52.319 --> 01:11:55.199 was sexually abusing me from infancy. So it's not like 1126 01:11:55.279 --> 01:11:57.880 I could think to judge what he was doing was wrong, 1127 01:11:58.640 --> 01:12:01.439 you know. I mean, there wasn't anycity for that. But 1128 01:12:01.640 --> 01:12:05.399 my brain knew that I was experiencing the pain and 1129 01:12:05.479 --> 01:12:10.479 suffocation of his abuse. So it actually physically shut down 1130 01:12:10.600 --> 01:12:15.399 neuron pathways in my brain to compartmentalize memory of that event. 1131 01:12:15.760 --> 01:12:19.079 That's also known as repress memory. But it's just the 1132 01:12:19.159 --> 01:12:22.560 way our brains respond, and it actually physically shuts down 1133 01:12:23.079 --> 01:12:26.159 those neuron pathways so the rest of the mind can 1134 01:12:26.239 --> 01:12:30.439 function normally. This is a defense mechanism that you know, 1135 01:12:30.720 --> 01:12:34.159 we have been graced with this amazing ability of our brains. 1136 01:12:34.239 --> 01:12:38.640 We just need to understand it because the pedaphilogyend to 1137 01:12:38.720 --> 01:12:43.800 being pushed on our children has a very deliberate mind 1138 01:12:43.920 --> 01:12:48.640 control purpose. So the fact that I was in a 1139 01:12:48.800 --> 01:12:53.079 multi generational incest based family is what made me a 1140 01:12:53.239 --> 01:12:58.680 target for MK Ultra mind control and my father's sexual 1141 01:12:58.760 --> 01:13:03.239 abuse of me send it into child pornography, and he 1142 01:13:03.439 --> 01:13:06.840 also was trafficking me at a very very early age 1143 01:13:06.960 --> 01:13:10.880 to my grandfather's Blue Masonic Lodge. And the Blue Masonic 1144 01:13:10.960 --> 01:13:13.319 Lodge is where a lot of politicians were hanging out 1145 01:13:13.600 --> 01:13:18.680 and you know, police officers or whatever. So when my 1146 01:13:18.800 --> 01:13:22.960 father was caught sending child pornography of me through the 1147 01:13:23.159 --> 01:13:27.239 US Males, this was in the very early nineteen sixties, 1148 01:13:27.800 --> 01:13:32.560 he was granted immunity for prosecution if he would agree 1149 01:13:32.680 --> 01:13:36.319 to sell me into the CIA's MK Ultra mind control 1150 01:13:36.880 --> 01:13:40.439 project that literally picked up where Adolf Hitler left off. 1151 01:13:40.520 --> 01:13:43.119 You know, my father thought it was a great idea 1152 01:13:43.199 --> 01:13:48.439 and sold me in. Well, the politician that approached my 1153 01:13:48.600 --> 01:13:55.079 father with that immunity option was a local politician by 1154 01:13:55.119 --> 01:13:58.800 the name of Gerald Ford, and Gerald Ford went on 1155 01:13:58.960 --> 01:14:02.000 to become the only lie acted President of the United States. 1156 01:14:02.840 --> 01:14:09.000 He investigated the so called investigated the Kennedy assassination which 1157 01:14:09.119 --> 01:14:12.800 was just to cover up through the Warrant Commission, because 1158 01:14:12.840 --> 01:14:16.560 that was an event that traumatized the nation. And again, 1159 01:14:17.039 --> 01:14:21.319 trauma is the basis of mind control. And as Ford's 1160 01:14:21.359 --> 01:14:26.039 political career escalated, so tooted my victimization and KA ultra 1161 01:14:26.119 --> 01:14:26.720 mind control. 1162 01:14:28.560 --> 01:14:32.399 Well, now, when were you able to and how were 1163 01:14:32.399 --> 01:14:34.079 you able to break free from all of this? 1164 01:14:36.239 --> 01:14:39.680 I was in MK ultra mind control used on a 1165 01:14:39.760 --> 01:14:44.640 White House Pentagon level during the Reagan Bush administration. I 1166 01:14:44.880 --> 01:14:48.399 was trafficked in the human trafficking ops, which is a 1167 01:14:48.479 --> 01:14:52.600 funding mechanism of the global reset going on right now 1168 01:14:54.239 --> 01:14:57.800 what Adolf Hitler, George Bush, and Joe Biden termed the 1169 01:14:57.960 --> 01:15:01.520 New World Order, because ultimately that's what it's about. It's 1170 01:15:01.840 --> 01:15:04.560 the New World Order agenda that came over with Project 1171 01:15:04.640 --> 01:15:07.720 paper Clip and has been infiltrated in the United States 1172 01:15:07.800 --> 01:15:12.319 for a long, long long time. So I was used 1173 01:15:12.359 --> 01:15:15.920 in those particular operations right up until nineteen eighty eight 1174 01:15:16.720 --> 01:15:21.880 when intelligence insider Mark Phillips, who is working the highest 1175 01:15:22.000 --> 01:15:25.399 levels of intelligence mind sciences, he was over the CIA. 1176 01:15:25.880 --> 01:15:28.119 He could wear whatever hat he needed to to be 1177 01:15:28.239 --> 01:15:33.079 where he wanted for whatever purpose that he was carrying out. 1178 01:15:33.399 --> 01:15:37.840 But Ultimately, he worked mind sciences, and he was appalled 1179 01:15:37.960 --> 01:15:42.479 to see that MK ultra mind control was being used 1180 01:15:42.640 --> 01:15:47.399 on individuals like myself who were targeted for it, and 1181 01:15:47.560 --> 01:15:52.079 on the population as a whole, for the takeover of 1182 01:15:52.479 --> 01:15:56.680 the United States, for the erosion or constitution, and the 1183 01:15:56.800 --> 01:16:02.600 selling us out into the globalist slave society agenda. He 1184 01:16:02.760 --> 01:16:06.239 was so outraged he decided to do something about it. 1185 01:16:06.800 --> 01:16:10.520 He rescued my daughter and me right out of the Washington, 1186 01:16:10.720 --> 01:16:15.640 DC human trafficking swamp that was back in nineteen eighty eight, 1187 01:16:16.479 --> 01:16:18.640 and he handed me the keys to my mind because 1188 01:16:18.800 --> 01:16:22.399 while he was working mind sciences, he was disturbed to 1189 01:16:22.479 --> 01:16:26.159 see that pertinent information on mind brain function was being 1190 01:16:26.239 --> 01:16:30.720 suppressed from society, from mental health, and from education completely. 1191 01:16:31.159 --> 01:16:35.479 It was being suppressed because knowledge is our defense against 1192 01:16:35.520 --> 01:16:37.560 mind control, and that they didn't want us to have 1193 01:16:37.680 --> 01:16:40.079 the knowledge of our mind brain function because when we 1194 01:16:40.239 --> 01:16:45.640 have that information, we can protect ourselves against the onslaught 1195 01:16:46.239 --> 01:16:51.560 of subconscious manipulation in the wake of trauma. So Mark 1196 01:16:51.640 --> 01:16:55.279 wanted to get that information out to the population. He 1197 01:16:55.359 --> 01:16:57.119 knew that they were going to be waking up to 1198 01:16:57.199 --> 01:17:01.319 the reality of this new world order society agenda and 1199 01:17:01.399 --> 01:17:04.880 He wanted to empower people with the sanctity of free thought. 1200 01:17:05.520 --> 01:17:08.800 Everything that Mark'd worked for and dedicated his life to 1201 01:17:09.399 --> 01:17:13.520 was free thought and how important it is, and I 1202 01:17:13.680 --> 01:17:16.399 know from my own life's experience how crucial it is, 1203 01:17:16.520 --> 01:17:19.279 because without free thought, there's no free will, and with 1204 01:17:19.399 --> 01:17:23.159 no free will, there's no soul expression. There's no ability 1205 01:17:23.279 --> 01:17:26.439 to stand for the things that we believe in. There's 1206 01:17:26.520 --> 01:17:29.279 no strength of the human spirit, which is an infinite 1207 01:17:29.399 --> 01:17:32.159 source of strength that empowers us to be able to 1208 01:17:32.199 --> 01:17:35.760 take a stand to stop the pedophilogy under being pushed 1209 01:17:35.800 --> 01:17:39.640 on our children, to stop this takeover of our nation 1210 01:17:40.119 --> 01:17:43.319 and the erosion of our justice system. These are things 1211 01:17:43.399 --> 01:17:51.600 that are sacred, and yet all this was being deliberately eroded, 1212 01:17:51.960 --> 01:17:56.279 and people's minds were being manipulated so that they couldn't 1213 01:17:56.560 --> 01:17:59.800 think to take a stand against it either. That's what 1214 01:18:00.159 --> 01:18:04.279 mind control agenda is about, and that's what is being 1215 01:18:04.359 --> 01:18:08.640 imposed on society today. That's what Mark Phillips dedicated his 1216 01:18:08.840 --> 01:18:13.399 life to stopping. And he made a huge, powerful impact, 1217 01:18:14.359 --> 01:18:16.399 a real hero to all to us all. 1218 01:18:16.960 --> 01:18:19.159 Yes, and I do I want to get into the 1219 01:18:20.479 --> 01:18:23.479 mass scale of the mind control how it works on 1220 01:18:23.640 --> 01:18:28.600 all of us But as far as individuals individual targeting, 1221 01:18:29.319 --> 01:18:32.680 would you say that they either it's either multi generational 1222 01:18:32.720 --> 01:18:35.279 where they keep it, you know, within certain families, or 1223 01:18:35.399 --> 01:18:38.239 they target people with like you said, mental illnesses. 1224 01:18:39.720 --> 01:18:44.399 Well, in my case, they knew that because I was 1225 01:18:44.560 --> 01:18:51.079 multi generational in saspace, that I would already be suffering 1226 01:18:51.279 --> 01:18:56.800 from a dissociative identity disorder. This dissociative disorder is where 1227 01:18:56.840 --> 01:19:00.880 the conscious mind takes flight and leaves the subconscious wide 1228 01:19:00.920 --> 01:19:04.359 open to being easily led. Our subconscious mind doesn't work 1229 01:19:04.439 --> 01:19:10.000 like our conscious mind. It has no ability to reason, question, critically, 1230 01:19:10.159 --> 01:19:15.920 analyze information, choose what it allows to force to respond to, 1231 01:19:16.239 --> 01:19:18.920 none of that. It just takes information in on a 1232 01:19:19.119 --> 01:19:22.239 very literal basis. And that's what we need to become 1233 01:19:22.319 --> 01:19:28.399 aware of, is that the vulnerability of our subconscious mind, 1234 01:19:28.479 --> 01:19:32.880 and after three generations, that vulnerability becomes autogenic. That's what 1235 01:19:33.079 --> 01:19:36.399 the Hitler Himmler research had found out. That's what was 1236 01:19:36.479 --> 01:19:41.359 brought over with Project paper Clip, and by nineteen forty 1237 01:19:41.479 --> 01:19:44.520 seven when the CIA was formed in the National Security 1238 01:19:44.600 --> 01:19:48.920 Act and in place to cover up this globalist agenda 1239 01:19:48.920 --> 01:19:52.359 and the crimes against humanity that will be intraded by 1240 01:19:52.479 --> 01:19:59.319 them for the purposes of trauma based mind control. Then 1241 01:19:59.840 --> 01:20:02.600 the this form of mind control was already well known 1242 01:20:02.640 --> 01:20:08.720 and was being accentuated and used even stronger on the population. 1243 01:20:09.000 --> 01:20:11.760 But also, you know, we had technology coming in at 1244 01:20:11.800 --> 01:20:14.199 the time, and we had television and everything else that 1245 01:20:14.439 --> 01:20:17.920 was really having an impact. We had Disney, you know, 1246 01:20:18.279 --> 01:20:21.319 to already start putting this subliminal message into push the 1247 01:20:21.399 --> 01:20:24.520 pedophile agenda, you know, so it was becoming a much 1248 01:20:24.560 --> 01:20:28.319 more powerful form of mind control. But I was targeted 1249 01:20:28.399 --> 01:20:32.760 because I was multi generational. When we realized that if 1250 01:20:32.800 --> 01:20:35.840 they can target three generations like they have through our 1251 01:20:36.239 --> 01:20:41.000 education system, when the federal government started meddling in the 1252 01:20:41.079 --> 01:20:45.640 school system and made states reliant on federal funding, they 1253 01:20:46.079 --> 01:20:51.720 also pushed the agenda and they altered history, they rewrote it. 1254 01:20:52.520 --> 01:20:57.680 Because mind control is a sliding scale from robotic mind control, 1255 01:20:57.760 --> 01:21:02.159 like I experienced information control. Because think about it, we 1256 01:21:02.279 --> 01:21:05.199 all formulate our thoughts, opinions, and actions based on what 1257 01:21:05.319 --> 01:21:08.800 we know, and we didn't know that knowledge base has 1258 01:21:08.880 --> 01:21:14.760 been deliberately altered for the purposes of ushering in this 1259 01:21:15.000 --> 01:21:18.359 new world order. And since the schools became dependent on 1260 01:21:18.479 --> 01:21:22.039 the federal government back in nineteen eighty four. We've got 1261 01:21:22.199 --> 01:21:26.159 generations now that are marching to new world orders, as 1262 01:21:26.560 --> 01:21:32.279 per the knowledge base from within the school system. So yes, 1263 01:21:32.439 --> 01:21:37.640 the generations are important for targeting the people for mind 1264 01:21:37.680 --> 01:21:42.199 control and for conditioning the brain to be more compliant 1265 01:21:43.079 --> 01:21:52.119 and receptive. And it's also something that these perpetrators use 1266 01:21:52.319 --> 01:21:55.039 in their own bloodlines to make sure that they pass 1267 01:21:55.239 --> 01:21:56.279 on the. 1268 01:21:57.760 --> 01:22:02.760 Psychopathy the controls of this new world order. Yeah, yeah, 1269 01:22:02.840 --> 01:22:06.479 that yeah. Now what about mental illness? Do you do 1270 01:22:06.560 --> 01:22:09.800 you think that they outside of multi generational aspects? Do 1271 01:22:09.840 --> 01:22:12.399 you think they just in certain ways to target people 1272 01:22:12.479 --> 01:22:13.520 with mental illnesses. 1273 01:22:15.359 --> 01:22:17.800 Well, it depends on if the if the illness is 1274 01:22:17.880 --> 01:22:22.880 conducive to mind controlled. Dissociative disorders are what is most 1275 01:22:23.079 --> 01:22:26.640 conducive to mind control, and then we need to consider 1276 01:22:26.760 --> 01:22:30.960 the pharmaceuticals that have been pushed on our children and 1277 01:22:31.039 --> 01:22:34.560 everything else to render them more compliant and easily led to. 1278 01:22:35.119 --> 01:22:38.760 That's another aspect of mind control. So it's not as 1279 01:22:38.840 --> 01:22:42.119 much a mental illness at that time. We hear about 1280 01:22:42.279 --> 01:22:46.640 people who are bipolar or schizophrenic, and we need to 1281 01:22:46.680 --> 01:22:49.560 look a little further into some of those diagnoses, because 1282 01:22:49.600 --> 01:22:53.039 there is no diagnosis of mkulter mind control, you know 1283 01:22:53.079 --> 01:22:57.119 what I mean. So when we look at those, we 1284 01:22:57.199 --> 01:23:01.239 see that they're often mislabeled in it a misnomer and 1285 01:23:01.439 --> 01:23:07.079 oftentimes a diversion away from the reality of MK ultra 1286 01:23:07.199 --> 01:23:07.840 mind control. 1287 01:23:08.319 --> 01:23:09.119 So, you know, like. 1288 01:23:11.239 --> 01:23:16.359 A presidential model MK ultra mind control slave in Canada 1289 01:23:16.840 --> 01:23:20.520 who was the wife of Pierre Trudeau. Pierre Trudeau was 1290 01:23:20.760 --> 01:23:27.000 one of the most powerful and influential MK ultra mind 1291 01:23:27.119 --> 01:23:32.039 control masters that has ever been and he uses a 1292 01:23:32.119 --> 01:23:35.800 pedophile agenda. I know that because he sexually abused me. 1293 01:23:35.960 --> 01:23:39.479 That was validated with national security on it in my 1294 01:23:39.640 --> 01:23:43.960 testimony Transformation of America. So you know, Pierre Trudeau was 1295 01:23:44.039 --> 01:23:51.520 heavily involved, and his wife, Margaret Trudeau, was supposedly labeled 1296 01:23:51.560 --> 01:23:55.079 bipolar or whatever, when in fact Gerald Ford made it 1297 01:23:55.239 --> 01:23:57.760 very clear that she was an MK ultra mind control 1298 01:23:57.880 --> 01:24:01.800 sex slave, just like I was, working on a presidential level, 1299 01:24:02.199 --> 01:24:05.800 which raises questions. Okay, who is Justin's father? Is his 1300 01:24:06.000 --> 01:24:10.239 father Castro like some people think because she did, no 1301 01:24:10.359 --> 01:24:15.840 Castro could be. The fact is Pierre Trudeau raised him, 1302 01:24:16.239 --> 01:24:26.000 That pedophile, controlling, horrible perpetrator raised Justin Trudeau. So we're 1303 01:24:26.039 --> 01:24:31.319 seeing the generational thing happening here. And also how the 1304 01:24:32.720 --> 01:24:36.079 women in positions like Maggie she couldn't do anything to 1305 01:24:36.239 --> 01:24:40.000 protect that situation. Raises a question to me, Okay, did 1306 01:24:40.600 --> 01:24:48.520 Pierre pass on his propensity for mind control to Justin 1307 01:24:49.119 --> 01:24:53.920 or is he mka ultrade like his mother? Which one 1308 01:24:54.079 --> 01:24:56.000 is he? You know, we need to know that we 1309 01:24:56.159 --> 01:24:58.960 need to start factoring mk ultra mind control into the 1310 01:24:59.039 --> 01:25:03.760 equation on politics because it is very heavily used creating 1311 01:25:03.880 --> 01:25:09.319 Manchurian candidates and or people who are conditioned from birth 1312 01:25:09.439 --> 01:25:12.920 to be compliant and lead into the new world order. 1313 01:25:13.279 --> 01:25:16.039 So again we got the multi generational aspect. We need 1314 01:25:16.159 --> 01:25:20.079 to know about the importance of our own genetics. 1315 01:25:20.960 --> 01:25:23.520 Yeah, well, let's talk a little bit about the history. 1316 01:25:23.520 --> 01:25:26.600 You're talking about how this kind of originated from the 1317 01:25:26.720 --> 01:25:30.359 Nazi scientists we brought over from paper clip, What were 1318 01:25:30.479 --> 01:25:34.279 some of the original blueprints for mind control that they 1319 01:25:34.319 --> 01:25:34.760 were using. 1320 01:25:36.079 --> 01:25:40.680 Well, in my case, since since I was sexually abused 1321 01:25:40.840 --> 01:25:46.000 at such an early age, I'm most familiar with that aspect, 1322 01:25:46.119 --> 01:25:48.640 and I was used as a sex like because sexual 1323 01:25:48.680 --> 01:25:53.000 abuse of a child confuses their sexuality, and that's what 1324 01:25:53.720 --> 01:25:56.600 gender confusion really is. It's just a misnomer for the 1325 01:25:56.720 --> 01:26:01.640 effects of pedophilia on the human in mind. But this 1326 01:26:02.760 --> 01:26:06.039 I also had a heightened sexuality, so that's why I 1327 01:26:06.239 --> 01:26:11.560 was used in a sexual way to different government leaders 1328 01:26:11.960 --> 01:26:16.119 that would put them in compromising positions for black mail. 1329 01:26:16.760 --> 01:26:20.359 The pedophile agenda is a black mail agenda as well, 1330 01:26:20.439 --> 01:26:24.760 because it is used to compromise certain politicians and judges 1331 01:26:24.840 --> 01:26:29.119 and then hold them, you know, by that blackmail perversion. 1332 01:26:29.399 --> 01:26:33.319 So that is another aspect of it. And in MK 1333 01:26:33.520 --> 01:26:38.319 ultra Mind Control Project Monarch, which is the multi generational one, 1334 01:26:40.079 --> 01:26:42.520 another one that I was familiar with. It was being 1335 01:26:42.640 --> 01:26:46.560 raised in the project at the exact same time I was. 1336 01:26:46.800 --> 01:26:51.039 Just two hours down the road was Michael Jackson. And 1337 01:26:51.119 --> 01:26:53.319 you can see how Michael Jackson wasn't used as a 1338 01:26:53.439 --> 01:26:55.720 sex slave. And now all of a sudden, we're looking 1339 01:26:55.760 --> 01:26:58.680 at males, because males are targeted just as much as 1340 01:26:58.800 --> 01:27:03.239 females and they're used sexually or or in whatever capacity. 1341 01:27:03.720 --> 01:27:06.279 And in the case of Michael Jackson, he was used 1342 01:27:06.319 --> 01:27:10.079 for his talent because he was amazing talent. What what 1343 01:27:10.880 --> 01:27:14.680 a gift to us all his talent was. But nevertheless 1344 01:27:14.760 --> 01:27:19.199 they twisted it and used MK Ultra mind control programming 1345 01:27:19.439 --> 01:27:23.760 on him to make him kind of a cash cow, 1346 01:27:24.119 --> 01:27:28.039 so that the money that he generated wasn't really something 1347 01:27:28.079 --> 01:27:31.960 that he had so much control over, as fueled the 1348 01:27:33.119 --> 01:27:37.720 New World Order agenda that was using him. So now, 1349 01:27:37.920 --> 01:27:39.439 how it's important one to see. 1350 01:27:39.880 --> 01:27:41.880 Yeah, I was about to say, how prevalent is this 1351 01:27:42.239 --> 01:27:46.920 in Hollywood in celebrity circles, that they've been mind controlled 1352 01:27:46.960 --> 01:27:49.680 their whole lives to be this certain type of cash 1353 01:27:49.760 --> 01:27:50.279 cow star. 1354 01:27:50.560 --> 01:27:54.359 Right, Yeah, it's very very prevalent. We heard a lot 1355 01:27:54.439 --> 01:27:57.319 of people talking about it. Now there's so many MK 1356 01:27:57.520 --> 01:28:01.600 ultra mind control survivors coming out that the media is 1357 01:28:01.840 --> 01:28:04.720 freaking out. You know, that's the voice of the New 1358 01:28:04.800 --> 01:28:08.319 World Order that's there. That's how they amplify their voice. 1359 01:28:08.359 --> 01:28:11.199 That's like they're hiding behind the Wizard's curtain, pulling the 1360 01:28:11.319 --> 01:28:14.279 media levers to make it look like they're bigger and 1361 01:28:14.399 --> 01:28:17.199 more powerful than they are. But you know, so the 1362 01:28:17.279 --> 01:28:22.199 media is saying, oh, it was all just LSD and 1363 01:28:22.279 --> 01:28:25.560 these are just LSD hallucinations that people are talking about. 1364 01:28:25.560 --> 01:28:26.439 That is so not true. 1365 01:28:26.760 --> 01:28:29.680 LSD was never used in mk ultra mind control because 1366 01:28:29.880 --> 01:28:33.119 it didn't work for mkulter mind control. So you know, 1367 01:28:34.119 --> 01:28:37.560 that that was done. But look at all the stars 1368 01:28:37.640 --> 01:28:41.640 who are talking about it. It's so many that even 1369 01:28:41.720 --> 01:28:45.960 the controlled media can't dilute and suppress this information any further. 1370 01:28:46.359 --> 01:28:48.960 And when we combine it with what's happening with Disney, 1371 01:28:49.319 --> 01:28:52.159 and look at anybody who was raised in Disney, like 1372 01:28:52.520 --> 01:28:55.680 the Britney spears of our world, you know, and we 1373 01:28:55.760 --> 01:29:00.439 look at that and see all the MK ultra pries 1374 01:29:00.600 --> 01:29:05.079 and please for help that are affiliated with that. Disney 1375 01:29:05.319 --> 01:29:09.760 is heavily involved in MK ultra mind control, a pedophile 1376 01:29:09.920 --> 01:29:14.079 agenda end of it. They also, i know from my 1377 01:29:14.159 --> 01:29:19.159 own personal experience that's validated again national security on it. 1378 01:29:19.840 --> 01:29:24.479 National security protecting Disney's pedophile mind control agenda. 1379 01:29:24.800 --> 01:29:25.600 What the heck? 1380 01:29:25.720 --> 01:29:28.560 You know, that's just ridiculous. But they have an underground 1381 01:29:28.640 --> 01:29:32.800 at Disney World. This underworld at Disney World is a programming, 1382 01:29:32.880 --> 01:29:37.359 a mind control programming up a center. And another faction 1383 01:29:37.520 --> 01:29:40.880 of our brains is at around age thirty, we have 1384 01:29:41.000 --> 01:29:45.520 these electrochemical changes that naturally start opening those neuron pathways, 1385 01:29:45.720 --> 01:29:48.359 are allowing them to leak a little bit. It's when 1386 01:29:48.439 --> 01:29:52.640 repress memory starts to surface. And some people and those 1387 01:29:52.680 --> 01:29:55.279 who are MK ultra that's when they shave their head. 1388 01:29:55.880 --> 01:30:01.159 That's when they get institutionalized. That's when they are caught 1389 01:30:01.319 --> 01:30:04.600 up in different things and then flown to Disney World. 1390 01:30:04.640 --> 01:30:06.800 Why are they flown to Disney World because there's a 1391 01:30:07.279 --> 01:30:13.479 reprogramming epicenter under Disney World. We have military bases there 1392 01:30:13.520 --> 01:30:16.439 because MK Ultra is used on and by the US military, 1393 01:30:16.520 --> 01:30:19.880 So we have military bases in Disney. Think about that, 1394 01:30:20.000 --> 01:30:21.880 you know, I mean, this is absurd. We need to 1395 01:30:22.119 --> 01:30:25.000 just be following the money. You can see, like even 1396 01:30:25.199 --> 01:30:31.960 our mainstream LAK, ABC and Disney are one and so 1397 01:30:32.039 --> 01:30:34.920 we're getting bombarded and with a lot of cover up 1398 01:30:35.359 --> 01:30:39.159 and a lot of misinformation, a lot of pedophilia promotion. 1399 01:30:39.319 --> 01:30:42.039 That is all, you know, going back to Disney. But 1400 01:30:42.439 --> 01:30:49.840 my point in bringing that up not yeah, but ultimately 1401 01:30:50.119 --> 01:30:54.239 watches being sent to Disney, you know who's being reprogrammed there. 1402 01:30:54.640 --> 01:30:57.079 We saw it happen, you know, and the ones who 1403 01:30:57.439 --> 01:30:59.159 have come out of Disney. We need to take a 1404 01:30:59.239 --> 01:31:01.920 hard look at those people and see, you know, if 1405 01:31:01.960 --> 01:31:04.399 they're needing help, but if they're pleading for help. 1406 01:31:04.479 --> 01:31:06.279 Well, I mean, you know they should. They do show 1407 01:31:06.359 --> 01:31:08.560 us predictive programming all the time. They show us like 1408 01:31:08.640 --> 01:31:12.479 pornographic images and the cartoons and things that are trying 1409 01:31:12.520 --> 01:31:15.399 to lead kids to be more sexualized. And this has 1410 01:31:15.479 --> 01:31:18.520 been going on for years in Disney, so it's like 1411 01:31:18.640 --> 01:31:21.119 they have to kind of show us these little hints 1412 01:31:21.159 --> 01:31:23.760 on what they're doing. And I know that part of it, 1413 01:31:23.920 --> 01:31:27.279 part of even mass mind control, is just Hollywood. It's 1414 01:31:27.319 --> 01:31:29.760 the movies, It's the media that we've been watching. It's 1415 01:31:29.920 --> 01:31:32.840 just it's brainwashing everybody on a mass gale. 1416 01:31:33.920 --> 01:31:37.239 It is it is. And then the music too. You know, 1417 01:31:37.319 --> 01:31:40.800 we need to pay attention to harmonics, and now harmonics 1418 01:31:40.960 --> 01:31:44.800 vibrate the neuron pathways of our brain to allow information in, 1419 01:31:45.039 --> 01:31:47.640 so you know, we need to choose our lyrics very 1420 01:31:47.720 --> 01:31:53.439 carefully instead of having this violent sexualization and pedophilic promotion 1421 01:31:53.640 --> 01:31:57.439 coming through music too. I think a really good example 1422 01:31:57.560 --> 01:32:03.760 on how the harmonic affect our neural pathways is when 1423 01:32:03.840 --> 01:32:05.800 people hear a song that they fell in love to, 1424 01:32:06.079 --> 01:32:08.159 you know, and they're like they'll have a squish moment 1425 01:32:08.239 --> 01:32:10.920 together like oh remember and we fell in love and 1426 01:32:11.000 --> 01:32:14.359 they have this this this this moment reactivated because of 1427 01:32:14.439 --> 01:32:18.479 the song here in that hearing their favorite song. But 1428 01:32:18.600 --> 01:32:22.239 that's how our neuron pathways, you know, open and close 1429 01:32:22.520 --> 01:32:29.000 and keep this this particular kind of information. And because 1430 01:32:29.039 --> 01:32:31.560 of that, we need to be mindful of what we 1431 01:32:31.720 --> 01:32:35.880 allow into our brains because it's it comes through TV too, 1432 01:32:36.399 --> 01:32:41.279 it comes through video games especially, which also promoting violence 1433 01:32:41.399 --> 01:32:44.479 and pedophilia and is a form of mind control. It 1434 01:32:44.560 --> 01:32:48.600 comes through computerization. We need to just pay attention to 1435 01:32:49.840 --> 01:32:53.920 what we allow to go into our brilliant minds. Our 1436 01:32:54.079 --> 01:32:57.880 our free thought is sacred and we need to start 1437 01:32:57.960 --> 01:32:59.399 preserving the sanctity of it. 1438 01:33:00.560 --> 01:33:04.800 Now, you were going over some of the applications for 1439 01:33:05.079 --> 01:33:08.079 for mind control when it comes to what they're having 1440 01:33:08.199 --> 01:33:11.920 people do in their lives, how they're controlling them. You 1441 01:33:12.039 --> 01:33:15.920 mentioned the monarch and then the aspects of sexual control. 1442 01:33:16.600 --> 01:33:19.399 What else for an individual basis are we looking at 1443 01:33:19.520 --> 01:33:22.399 that they're that they're using mind control for what's the 1444 01:33:22.680 --> 01:33:24.399 desired agendas and outcomes? 1445 01:33:25.720 --> 01:33:29.920 Well, I think that that brings to mind another basis 1446 01:33:30.119 --> 01:33:34.560 of mind control. When my father sold me into the project, 1447 01:33:34.640 --> 01:33:38.399 he was immediately flown to Boston, Massachusetts, where he was 1448 01:33:38.479 --> 01:33:42.079 trained by Cardinal Law of the Catholic Church. That's the 1449 01:33:42.159 --> 01:33:44.720 same Cardinal Law that was the head of the Catholic 1450 01:33:44.840 --> 01:33:48.159 Child Abuse scandal that was finally exposed a few years 1451 01:33:48.279 --> 01:33:52.800 back because of their sanctioning of pedophilia within the church. 1452 01:33:52.880 --> 01:33:55.039 It's because they wanted to be the one world church 1453 01:33:55.119 --> 01:33:58.840 in the New World Order, and they were allowing for 1454 01:33:58.960 --> 01:34:03.840 the promotion of pedophilia. But as soon as my father returned, 1455 01:34:04.239 --> 01:34:06.640 he had learned how to use the language of the 1456 01:34:06.720 --> 01:34:11.720 subconscious NLP neural linguistic programming, which is something we all 1457 01:34:11.840 --> 01:34:16.000 need to armor ourselves with. That's pertinent information because it 1458 01:34:16.159 --> 01:34:20.760 manipulates our subconscious mind. And my father had a sixth 1459 01:34:20.800 --> 01:34:23.680 grade education and he learned it in two weeks in Boston, 1460 01:34:23.880 --> 01:34:27.760 you know, so it's not that complicated once we understand 1461 01:34:28.279 --> 01:34:33.039 the basis of it. My father also started subjecting me 1462 01:34:33.119 --> 01:34:37.279 to occult ritual. Catholic Church was heavily involved in MK 1463 01:34:37.479 --> 01:34:41.880 ultra mind control and occult ritual that was like the 1464 01:34:41.960 --> 01:34:45.239 Satanism was like a reversal of the Catholic Mass, and 1465 01:34:46.159 --> 01:34:52.439 that horrible blood trauma is so horrifically traumatic that it 1466 01:34:52.560 --> 01:34:57.920 leaves people wide open to being easily led through neural 1467 01:34:58.000 --> 01:35:02.359 linguistic programming. We're seeing a lot of Satanism being sanctioned 1468 01:35:02.479 --> 01:35:08.239 and a lot of Satanic images and attitudes being promoted, 1469 01:35:08.840 --> 01:35:14.760 which definitely includes the pedaphileogy under the two merge very close. 1470 01:35:16.119 --> 01:35:18.439 This is a very important aspect that you're bringing up 1471 01:35:18.479 --> 01:35:22.680 because very important researchers are looking into some of this stuff. 1472 01:35:23.079 --> 01:35:26.239 They hit the occult or satan worship or rituals and 1473 01:35:26.319 --> 01:35:28.399 they stop and they're like, nah, this can't be and 1474 01:35:28.439 --> 01:35:30.640 they just turn around. But this is one of the 1475 01:35:30.720 --> 01:35:34.640 most important aspects. This is like a gateway to the 1476 01:35:34.840 --> 01:35:39.000 real reality of what these sick people are into, and 1477 01:35:39.279 --> 01:35:42.600 that is a dabbling in the occult and ritual magic. 1478 01:35:42.760 --> 01:35:46.119 And you know, this has been multi generational for them too. 1479 01:35:46.399 --> 01:35:49.039 And people don't like to look at the aspects that 1480 01:35:49.199 --> 01:35:51.039 this is involved, and this is kind of where it 1481 01:35:51.119 --> 01:35:54.479 throws the woo woo out. This is where people stop looking. 1482 01:35:54.920 --> 01:35:57.199 But this is one of the most important parts because 1483 01:35:57.279 --> 01:36:01.920 even if you don't believe in Satanism or these occult rituals, 1484 01:36:02.079 --> 01:36:05.640 they certainly do and they are definitely participating right. 1485 01:36:07.119 --> 01:36:12.279 Definitely, my primary mind control programmer was Lieutenant Colonel Michael Aquino, 1486 01:36:12.359 --> 01:36:15.520 the founder of the Occult Temple as set proliferating on 1487 01:36:15.600 --> 01:36:20.680 our military basis and when Mark Phillips was studying mind 1488 01:36:20.800 --> 01:36:24.680 Sciences in the Psychological Warfare Division of the War College. 1489 01:36:25.000 --> 01:36:28.800 Michael Aquino was there studying too on how to use 1490 01:36:28.920 --> 01:36:34.600 Satanism to control the human mind. And it was my experience, 1491 01:36:34.760 --> 01:36:38.600 my experience having been around a Quino, that he didn't 1492 01:36:39.159 --> 01:36:43.119 believe in the power of satan per se. He believed 1493 01:36:43.199 --> 01:36:46.840 in himself more to be able to manipulate people with 1494 01:36:46.960 --> 01:36:52.439 blood trauma and murder and horrific you know, occultism. If 1495 01:36:52.479 --> 01:36:54.960 he could convince them that it was beyond their realm 1496 01:36:55.039 --> 01:36:57.920 to effect that it was you know, a theracal then 1497 01:36:58.479 --> 01:37:02.760 then that would just make people, you know, completely submissive. 1498 01:37:03.319 --> 01:37:07.800 And so that's why occultism is used that way. It's 1499 01:37:09.680 --> 01:37:12.880 they actually can't touch the human spirit, they can't possess 1500 01:37:13.000 --> 01:37:16.680 the human spirit because we have a safeguard mechanism there. 1501 01:37:16.720 --> 01:37:20.239 It's like when I was being tortured so horrifically by 1502 01:37:20.359 --> 01:37:23.600 people like Aquino, my spirit is always in a safe, 1503 01:37:23.680 --> 01:37:26.119 loving space, you know. We hear how when people are 1504 01:37:26.239 --> 01:37:29.239 like in an accident and see everything from above and 1505 01:37:29.279 --> 01:37:33.279 there's like a light that connects them, you know, down 1506 01:37:33.319 --> 01:37:37.079 below or whatever, and they're overseeing or whatever is That 1507 01:37:37.279 --> 01:37:40.680 was my experience in MK ultra mind control. My spirit 1508 01:37:40.800 --> 01:37:44.000 was always in a safe, loving space. So they can't 1509 01:37:44.039 --> 01:37:47.439 possess the spirit, but they fear the human spirit because 1510 01:37:47.439 --> 01:37:50.159 it's our strength. It's where we win, it's where they lose. 1511 01:37:50.680 --> 01:37:53.439 It's the most powerful force in the universe. It's what 1512 01:37:54.000 --> 01:37:56.039 allows us to stand up against them. 1513 01:37:56.159 --> 01:37:56.359 You know. 1514 01:37:56.479 --> 01:38:02.159 It's so it's such an amazing force that they wish 1515 01:38:02.279 --> 01:38:05.560 they could possess it, but they can't because that would 1516 01:38:05.640 --> 01:38:09.119 be like darkness creeping in on light. It doesn't work 1517 01:38:09.199 --> 01:38:13.359 that way. It's just not the scientific formula. So whether 1518 01:38:13.439 --> 01:38:15.560 they believe in it or whether they don't believe in it, 1519 01:38:15.680 --> 01:38:17.840 the fact that I know from having been around these 1520 01:38:17.920 --> 01:38:23.600 perpetrators in the swamp in Washington, d C. They are 1521 01:38:23.840 --> 01:38:29.239 very low vibration. They're very dark. They're evil energy force 1522 01:38:29.960 --> 01:38:36.359 that feeds off of negativity. They want to create division 1523 01:38:36.560 --> 01:38:39.680 in society. They want to create hatred. They feed off that. 1524 01:38:40.079 --> 01:38:42.479 They feed off the fear, They feed off the hate. 1525 01:38:42.560 --> 01:38:45.760 That's what they want to generate. That is their vibration. 1526 01:38:46.279 --> 01:38:49.239 That's what they want, you know. So when I started 1527 01:38:49.279 --> 01:38:51.680 speaking out, when I regained my free thought in my 1528 01:38:51.880 --> 01:38:56.439 free speech and was able to start exposing these perpetrators. 1529 01:38:57.279 --> 01:39:01.159 It wasn't vengeance or hatred for them that did it. 1530 01:39:01.720 --> 01:39:04.239 That compelled me. It was love for my own daughter. 1531 01:39:04.520 --> 01:39:07.720 It was love for humanity. It was concerned about the 1532 01:39:07.840 --> 01:39:10.239 plan that they had for humanity. 1533 01:39:10.560 --> 01:39:11.279 So it was love. 1534 01:39:11.560 --> 01:39:14.439 So I've always lived the love. I am always shine love. 1535 01:39:14.520 --> 01:39:17.159 I live my strength of spirit, and I don't give 1536 01:39:17.279 --> 01:39:20.720 them anymore of my fear. They don't get any more hate. 1537 01:39:20.760 --> 01:39:22.720 They don't get any of that from me. They stole 1538 01:39:22.880 --> 01:39:25.239 enough of that long. I am not giving them anymore, 1539 01:39:25.720 --> 01:39:32.119 and I win, you know. So they only try to 1540 01:39:32.279 --> 01:39:35.600 appear more powerful than they are. But the fact is 1541 01:39:36.840 --> 01:39:39.680 they only have as much power as we give them, 1542 01:39:40.319 --> 01:39:45.199 you know it. Stop giving them fear, Stop caving into hate, 1543 01:39:45.359 --> 01:39:48.760 you know, stop letting them divide us, and rise above 1544 01:39:48.800 --> 01:39:52.039 all that and start living our life's purpose. We're all 1545 01:39:52.159 --> 01:39:54.479 here at this pivotal moment in time for a reason. 1546 01:39:55.079 --> 01:39:59.279 You know this is this is an evolutionary time for humanity, 1547 01:39:59.479 --> 01:40:01.680 and we all have a purpose for being here, and 1548 01:40:01.760 --> 01:40:05.600 we need to live that purpose free above the storm, 1549 01:40:05.680 --> 01:40:09.479 you know, away from the field, from their constant barrage. 1550 01:40:09.960 --> 01:40:12.000 We have been able to rise above it with a 1551 01:40:12.039 --> 01:40:14.960 great awakening to such a degree that they're like freaking out, 1552 01:40:15.239 --> 01:40:17.800 they're going all in, but they're being pretty wicked and 1553 01:40:18.000 --> 01:40:19.239 mean and violent. 1554 01:40:20.399 --> 01:40:23.159 Yeah, and then we're definitely I want to talk more 1555 01:40:23.199 --> 01:40:26.319 about this awakening and the grand plan that they're attempting 1556 01:40:26.399 --> 01:40:28.720 to do. I want to talk about that a little later, 1557 01:40:28.840 --> 01:40:31.079 but first I want to you You touched on this 1558 01:40:31.239 --> 01:40:36.119 a little bit some of the aspects of mind control, uh, 1559 01:40:36.279 --> 01:40:41.079 mind fracturing and creating of different personalities or what's called alters. 1560 01:40:42.479 --> 01:40:44.600 Maybe you could talk a little bit about that and 1561 01:40:44.880 --> 01:40:48.560 how fractured can a person's mind be and how many 1562 01:40:48.880 --> 01:40:52.359 you know, kind of alternate personalities can be created. 1563 01:40:53.840 --> 01:40:58.720 That that's an excellent question and ptist tiny heel, which 1564 01:40:58.720 --> 01:41:02.439 has posted on my website, give some insight into the 1565 01:41:02.560 --> 01:41:06.000 different aspects of my brain function like that in my 1566 01:41:06.199 --> 01:41:11.479 particular case, I was subjected to systematic ritualized trauma, the 1567 01:41:11.680 --> 01:41:17.199 systematic scientific formula that they have for creating like a 1568 01:41:17.359 --> 01:41:21.520 food deprivation to starve the brain, because our brains starve first, 1569 01:41:22.279 --> 01:41:26.039 you know which, when we look at how okay, the 1570 01:41:26.119 --> 01:41:28.479 first thing they did when the schools said no, you're 1571 01:41:28.520 --> 01:41:30.840 not going to be doing this pedophilogy and in the schools. 1572 01:41:31.079 --> 01:41:33.760 The federal government stepped in and said, okay, we're taking 1573 01:41:33.800 --> 01:41:38.479 away the Kids Left program. That's because they their brains 1574 01:41:38.560 --> 01:41:43.079 starve first if they're hungry, So they use that kind 1575 01:41:43.119 --> 01:41:49.560 of formula, and a very deliberate, torturous formula to create 1576 01:41:49.680 --> 01:41:52.920 more and more and more compartments in the brain which 1577 01:41:53.199 --> 01:41:58.720 can then be programmed through NLP neurolinguistic programming or the 1578 01:41:58.840 --> 01:42:02.640 language of the subcon When my father had sexually abused 1579 01:42:02.680 --> 01:42:05.479 me as an infant, the part of my brain that 1580 01:42:07.279 --> 01:42:10.880 sectioned off every time my father would come to sexually 1581 01:42:10.920 --> 01:42:13.079 abuse me again, that part of my brain would open 1582 01:42:13.199 --> 01:42:15.359 back up to deal with his abuse again and again. 1583 01:42:15.520 --> 01:42:20.119 Is needed. And in a child who's just subjected to 1584 01:42:21.279 --> 01:42:25.800 various traumas, they do develop what appears to be personalities, 1585 01:42:26.039 --> 01:42:31.000 and it's not multiple personalities. It's one personality that shattered 1586 01:42:31.119 --> 01:42:36.079 into these different compartments and these different projections because that 1587 01:42:36.279 --> 01:42:42.279 projection obviously was very sexual, because that's all that compartment knew. Well, 1588 01:42:42.359 --> 01:42:46.800 when the government put in the systematic mk ultra programming, 1589 01:42:46.920 --> 01:42:50.399 like what Lieutenant Colonel Michael Aquino was doing is taking 1590 01:42:51.000 --> 01:42:54.159 the trigger of that compartment. You know, the trigger used 1591 01:42:54.159 --> 01:42:56.720 to be my father's sexual abuse, and they would put 1592 01:42:57.079 --> 01:43:00.279 a verbal trigger in there instead, so that could be 1593 01:43:00.359 --> 01:43:03.279 activated with a hand signal, it could be activated with 1594 01:43:03.359 --> 01:43:06.239 a harmonic tone, it could be activated with a word. 1595 01:43:06.960 --> 01:43:13.920 And that kind of activation is something that is being 1596 01:43:14.159 --> 01:43:19.680 used to activate a lot of programmed sleepers or shooters, 1597 01:43:20.039 --> 01:43:23.279 you know, for when they're wanting to traumatize the nation 1598 01:43:23.600 --> 01:43:28.399 with another school shooting or whatever. Then they're activated, the 1599 01:43:28.479 --> 01:43:31.119 people are traumatized, they show it over and over and 1600 01:43:31.239 --> 01:43:36.319 over on TV, and the then the subconscious mind is manipulated. 1601 01:43:36.359 --> 01:43:38.399 And of course right now it's give up your guns, 1602 01:43:38.439 --> 01:43:38.920 give up your. 1603 01:43:40.600 --> 01:43:44.439 Why are interesting, No, you're right, it's definitely. One of 1604 01:43:44.439 --> 01:43:47.720 the aspects I want to talk about is assassins and 1605 01:43:48.119 --> 01:43:51.880 a lot of the staged events that we've seen in 1606 01:43:52.000 --> 01:43:55.039 the past decade to disarm us. 1607 01:43:55.760 --> 01:43:59.520 Just like you were saying, right, yes, it's been it's 1608 01:43:59.560 --> 01:44:01.880 coming out us from a lot of different directions. And 1609 01:44:02.000 --> 01:44:07.000 the gun ones like that are i think the most 1610 01:44:07.239 --> 01:44:12.560 obvious and the most prolific and the strongest used. And 1611 01:44:12.720 --> 01:44:18.520 yet there's also been a very slow erosion of a 1612 01:44:18.680 --> 01:44:22.520 social engineering and the erosion of masculinity, and this gender 1613 01:44:22.640 --> 01:44:28.239 confusion is another aspect of that and apprition of transgendering 1614 01:44:28.319 --> 01:44:32.680 of effeminate men and men and women's sports and all like. 1615 01:44:32.760 --> 01:44:36.560 This is to try to make the men more compliant 1616 01:44:36.600 --> 01:44:40.239 because men have that, you know, that manliness that's going 1617 01:44:40.319 --> 01:44:42.800 to stand up a little bit stronger. But they've been 1618 01:44:42.880 --> 01:44:51.119 conditioned through the modification of hormones in our foods. We 1619 01:44:51.279 --> 01:44:54.520 got to take back our foods from the pharmaceutical companies 1620 01:44:54.560 --> 01:44:57.079 and get them out of our lives. We don't need that. 1621 01:44:57.399 --> 01:45:00.399 We have amazing capabilities in our own bodies. Don't need 1622 01:45:00.479 --> 01:45:04.520 them meddling with our food en handsing it and creating 1623 01:45:04.600 --> 01:45:08.880 all these artificial foods to eat. And you know, we 1624 01:45:10.000 --> 01:45:15.760 we need to know that men have been affected strongest 1625 01:45:15.840 --> 01:45:18.840 because they need to get men to stand down and 1626 01:45:18.960 --> 01:45:22.279 then turn over their guns. So there's coming at them 1627 01:45:22.279 --> 01:45:25.760 from different ways. Of course, the so called feminist movement 1628 01:45:25.840 --> 01:45:28.960 and everything else, which is just you know, an excuse. 1629 01:45:30.000 --> 01:45:31.520 I mean, I don't I'm going to get in trouble 1630 01:45:31.520 --> 01:45:33.239 with a lot of people if I just keep going 1631 01:45:33.279 --> 01:45:34.119 in a certain year. 1632 01:45:34.359 --> 01:45:36.960 But this is all true. We need to hear it. 1633 01:45:37.760 --> 01:45:41.319 Well, it's it's it's being socially engineered from a lot 1634 01:45:41.359 --> 01:45:43.119 of shoes, and we need to be aware of that 1635 01:45:43.840 --> 01:45:49.520 and start supporting the genetics that we're born with and 1636 01:45:49.960 --> 01:45:55.560 the masculinity. You know, it's not toxic, it's it's something 1637 01:45:56.439 --> 01:45:59.479 that that's just needed in society. We need this balance. 1638 01:45:59.600 --> 01:46:02.560 We need it, We need it around us in so 1639 01:46:02.720 --> 01:46:04.840 many ways. But most of all, we need to hang 1640 01:46:04.920 --> 01:46:07.199 onto our guns. They want to take them away really bad. 1641 01:46:07.319 --> 01:46:10.079 And wherever people don't have guns is where the most 1642 01:46:10.159 --> 01:46:13.359 violence is. Look at the cities that have gun control laws. 1643 01:46:13.560 --> 01:46:17.479 That's where the violence in the US is. It's the Chicagos, 1644 01:46:17.640 --> 01:46:20.479 you know. We need to pay attention to that and 1645 01:46:21.039 --> 01:46:23.560 realize that they have no purpose in taking away our 1646 01:46:23.600 --> 01:46:27.039 guns other than to make us more helpless and submissive 1647 01:46:27.479 --> 01:46:30.600 to what they have planned for us. Because what they 1648 01:46:30.680 --> 01:46:34.319 have planned for us is horrific. We are just seeing 1649 01:46:34.319 --> 01:46:36.680 in the beginning of it. They are they have no 1650 01:46:36.880 --> 01:46:40.279 limits to the amount of trauma and pain that they 1651 01:46:40.279 --> 01:46:44.000 would inflict and generate, because again, that is their energy, 1652 01:46:44.079 --> 01:46:47.319 that is their vibration, is what they need in order 1653 01:46:47.439 --> 01:46:52.800 to succeed and keep us compliant. We need to stop complying. 1654 01:46:53.680 --> 01:46:55.079 We just need to stop applying. 1655 01:46:55.359 --> 01:46:59.000 Exactly now, if there's so many aspects I want want 1656 01:46:59.000 --> 01:47:02.359 to get to, but early talking about how you know, 1657 01:47:02.560 --> 01:47:07.279 even at very local and you know, personal close levels, 1658 01:47:07.319 --> 01:47:10.840 that this is occurring in every probably in every town, 1659 01:47:10.920 --> 01:47:14.319 in every state, in every city, that even your your 1660 01:47:14.359 --> 01:47:20.960 small time politicians could be involved in this right. 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And that's something 1678 01:48:26.920 --> 01:48:29.279 that I think we all got a strong taste of 1679 01:48:29.640 --> 01:48:32.920 when mind control mass is a virus was unleashed on 1680 01:48:33.039 --> 01:48:37.680 the global population to create the trauma so that they 1681 01:48:37.760 --> 01:48:41.119 could move forward with their global reset, new World order, 1682 01:48:41.199 --> 01:48:43.800 slave society where a handful of big guys make all 1683 01:48:43.880 --> 01:48:46.880 the money, those of us who survive do all the work. 1684 01:48:47.159 --> 01:48:51.119 That's the plan, that's what they're moving towards. So when 1685 01:48:51.199 --> 01:48:54.800 that happened and they stole elections twenty twenty sublatantly and 1686 01:48:54.960 --> 01:48:59.800 then locked up anybody who said anything against it, you know, 1687 01:49:00.119 --> 01:49:04.039 and censored him and take him off their controlled media, 1688 01:49:04.159 --> 01:49:06.520 you know, I mean, it was just as ridiculous what's 1689 01:49:06.600 --> 01:49:10.239 being done in that way. And yet my nineteen ninety 1690 01:49:10.319 --> 01:49:15.439 five testimony Transformation of America detailed who the plant, what 1691 01:49:15.560 --> 01:49:17.840 the plan was of who was going to be in 1692 01:49:17.960 --> 01:49:20.880 the office of president. It was be kept in the 1693 01:49:20.920 --> 01:49:24.600 Bush Clinton dynasties until Hillary Clinton ushered in the New 1694 01:49:24.680 --> 01:49:28.520 World Order twenty sixteen didn't happen that way, you know. 1695 01:49:29.000 --> 01:49:32.279 So it's because people are waking up that we need 1696 01:49:32.359 --> 01:49:35.760 to pay attention to the fact that these electronic voting 1697 01:49:35.880 --> 01:49:39.520 machines which came in in the wake of the Kennedy assassination, 1698 01:49:40.439 --> 01:49:42.960 you know, and like I'm saying before, that's when this 1699 01:49:43.760 --> 01:49:48.119 global agenda took a stronghold on America, traumatized the nation. 1700 01:49:48.840 --> 01:49:52.439 They came into controlled media. You know, you look at 1701 01:49:52.600 --> 01:49:55.199 and Gerald Ford was heavily involved. That's why I have 1702 01:49:55.359 --> 01:49:58.760 such an up close personal thing on that. And the 1703 01:49:58.760 --> 01:50:02.119 electronic voting machine came in right after that. And I 1704 01:50:02.239 --> 01:50:05.239 haven't been around these perpetrators in Washington, be I can 1705 01:50:05.319 --> 01:50:10.840 guarantee you they did worried one bit about elections because 1706 01:50:10.880 --> 01:50:14.079 they are going to be placed placed in position through 1707 01:50:14.159 --> 01:50:16.600 these rigged elections because they were so willing to be 1708 01:50:16.680 --> 01:50:21.720 a part of this agenda. So we need to pay 1709 01:50:21.720 --> 01:50:24.039 attention to that. We've got to clean up our elections. 1710 01:50:24.119 --> 01:50:27.479 We need to get back to paper ballots, monitor them. 1711 01:50:28.680 --> 01:50:32.159 Know that this isn't a conspiracy theory, you know, check 1712 01:50:32.239 --> 01:50:35.279 the machines, that the evidence is there. You know, We've 1713 01:50:35.319 --> 01:50:39.239 got all the evidence. We've got an eroded justice system 1714 01:50:39.359 --> 01:50:42.840 that has been compromised for a long long time. We've 1715 01:50:42.880 --> 01:50:46.800 got an FBI gestapo willing to lock up people who 1716 01:50:46.880 --> 01:50:50.319 are standing for their children or for their freedoms, you know, 1717 01:50:50.439 --> 01:50:55.000 And we need to just realize that we share this 1718 01:50:55.239 --> 01:50:58.840 planet with some very evil people with a very dark 1719 01:51:00.119 --> 01:51:03.760 and then it's inexcusable that we allow them to meddle 1720 01:51:03.800 --> 01:51:07.760 in our minds and lives anymore. All we need to 1721 01:51:07.880 --> 01:51:10.960 do is just know the truth that makes us free. 1722 01:51:11.600 --> 01:51:14.560 Knowledge is our defense against mind control. We need to 1723 01:51:14.760 --> 01:51:19.439 arm ourselves with knowledge above all and have that information 1724 01:51:19.720 --> 01:51:24.880 so that we can effectively start taking back our personal 1725 01:51:25.039 --> 01:51:30.079 and national sovereignty and restoring justice system and be able 1726 01:51:30.159 --> 01:51:33.439 to live the lives that we were meant to live 1727 01:51:33.880 --> 01:51:38.079 and step terror nonsense that we're being imposed on us 1728 01:51:38.159 --> 01:51:38.439 right now. 1729 01:51:39.239 --> 01:51:42.359 If people can't realize the evil being perpetrated, they have 1730 01:51:42.600 --> 01:51:45.279 their heads so far either in the sand or weigh 1731 01:51:45.319 --> 01:51:48.039 up their asses, either one that you know, they're not 1732 01:51:48.119 --> 01:51:51.359 seeing the truth here. But I am very hopeful to 1733 01:51:51.720 --> 01:51:54.039 seeing the amount of people that do see and that 1734 01:51:54.239 --> 01:51:57.199 are awakening during this time. So that's where my hope 1735 01:51:57.279 --> 01:51:59.760 is coming from right now, if we can kind of 1736 01:52:00.680 --> 01:52:03.880 collective get past this. But tell us a little bit 1737 01:52:03.920 --> 01:52:06.600 about what was the result of your test testimony for 1738 01:52:06.760 --> 01:52:11.640 the US Congressional permits permanent select committees on intelligence oversight. 1739 01:52:12.960 --> 01:52:17.279 Absolutely nothing national security evoked on my testimony, and the 1740 01:52:17.319 --> 01:52:20.000 whole thing was censored. The people in power at the 1741 01:52:20.079 --> 01:52:23.920 time were the very ones named in Trance. So at 1742 01:52:23.960 --> 01:52:26.479 that time Mark and I put it in book form 1743 01:52:27.039 --> 01:52:31.520 and released it to all members of Congress anyway, and 1744 01:52:32.560 --> 01:52:35.359 the watchdog groups, you know, the ones that were supposed 1745 01:52:35.399 --> 01:52:39.720 to be watching out for our justice and everything else. 1746 01:52:40.199 --> 01:52:42.399 And we put it out that way, and that actually 1747 01:52:42.520 --> 01:52:46.600 helped keep us alive. We had people like US Customs, 1748 01:52:46.680 --> 01:52:49.239 the head of US Customs, William Vaughn Robb, you know, 1749 01:52:49.439 --> 01:52:52.239 oh my gosh, what a hero to the American people 1750 01:52:52.319 --> 01:52:57.720 he was that he had validated the information and also 1751 01:52:57.880 --> 01:53:00.840 helped get it out to the order guards and all 1752 01:53:00.880 --> 01:53:03.199 because it's border guards are seeing so much of the 1753 01:53:03.279 --> 01:53:05.399 human ethicking and drug ops and every time they make 1754 01:53:05.439 --> 01:53:09.640 a bus, national security is invoked on it. And so 1755 01:53:09.960 --> 01:53:14.119 the information just got out there well because national security 1756 01:53:14.239 --> 01:53:17.680 was invoked on it in open court, in my daughter's hase, 1757 01:53:18.319 --> 01:53:21.960 then then I would be able to keep speaking out 1758 01:53:22.039 --> 01:53:24.880 on anything that was validated by the clean members of 1759 01:53:25.000 --> 01:53:29.479 law enforcement and intelligence community, secret Service or whatever. In 1760 01:53:29.600 --> 01:53:33.960 transformation of America and the perpetrators named could not sue 1761 01:53:34.039 --> 01:53:38.439 me because of National Security Act in the way. And 1762 01:53:38.600 --> 01:53:41.800 at the same time, here's the kicker. It was suppressed 1763 01:53:41.960 --> 01:53:46.920 completely for media from publicage and continues to be The 1764 01:53:47.079 --> 01:53:50.199 National Security Act is being used to cover some horrific 1765 01:53:50.279 --> 01:53:53.520 times against humanity. It's just a blanket of secrecy that 1766 01:53:53.680 --> 01:53:56.199 came in with Project paper Clip. And you know, we 1767 01:53:56.319 --> 01:53:59.960 need to be aware that that when Project paper Clip 1768 01:54:00.159 --> 01:54:02.760 came in with their agenda and the CIA was formed 1769 01:54:02.840 --> 01:54:06.439 to enhance it. When the CIA was formed, so too 1770 01:54:06.760 --> 01:54:11.359 was National Security. So that was it's made it very 1771 01:54:11.479 --> 01:54:14.239 very difficult. Mark and I spoke out on a global 1772 01:54:14.319 --> 01:54:17.359 scale trending us information to light. It was to help 1773 01:54:17.439 --> 01:54:22.720 my daughter in her situation. The FBI was testifying it's 1774 01:54:22.800 --> 01:54:27.199 my traffic daughter, and it was absolutely horrific what was 1775 01:54:27.319 --> 01:54:30.159 being done. So we did all we could to bring 1776 01:54:30.279 --> 01:54:33.479 information to light. And wherever we spoke, wherever in the 1777 01:54:33.520 --> 01:54:35.600 world we were, there was FEDS in the back of 1778 01:54:35.640 --> 01:54:38.520 the room making sure we didn't say one thing that 1779 01:54:38.800 --> 01:54:43.720 wasn't in the testimony, that we didn't assert a perception 1780 01:54:44.199 --> 01:54:49.960 that we didn't incite revolution, or we never did. We 1781 01:54:50.079 --> 01:54:53.239 were always proponents of evolution. You know that we need 1782 01:54:53.319 --> 01:54:56.640 to evolve with the knowledge, and you know again knowledge 1783 01:54:56.720 --> 01:54:59.720 is our defense against mind control, and that's the evolution 1784 01:55:00.239 --> 01:55:03.600 step that's needed around the world right now. We don't 1785 01:55:03.680 --> 01:55:06.680 need a revolution. There's only a handful of them. There's 1786 01:55:06.880 --> 01:55:10.079 really not much to fight Nightguard. We need to evolve 1787 01:55:10.479 --> 01:55:13.479 to be able to thank fans stop complying with their 1788 01:55:13.560 --> 01:55:16.680 dark agendats absurd that we comply with that at all. 1789 01:55:17.399 --> 01:55:21.279 It is, it is very absurd. Well, speaking of the 1790 01:55:21.479 --> 01:55:26.439 dark agendas, and let's talk about the desired end game 1791 01:55:26.680 --> 01:55:30.399 for these scumbag psycho paths and what has been happening, 1792 01:55:30.840 --> 01:55:33.359 you know, especially since twenty twenty. It's been happening our 1793 01:55:33.399 --> 01:55:36.319 whole lives. It's been happening our whole existence. As long 1794 01:55:36.359 --> 01:55:38.960 as these guys have been in power, wherever it's hundreds 1795 01:55:39.039 --> 01:55:42.000 or thousands of years, we've always been subjected to their 1796 01:55:42.039 --> 01:55:46.039 mind control. But something special happened in twenty twenty to 1797 01:55:46.079 --> 01:55:49.479 where it's like they're you know, ramping up this grand 1798 01:55:50.119 --> 01:55:53.680 plan to have total domination in control over the planet 1799 01:55:54.680 --> 01:55:57.800 and along with other you know, if nefarious agenda's attached 1800 01:55:57.840 --> 01:56:00.159 to it, which i'd like to get your take. 1801 01:56:01.399 --> 01:56:05.800 Well, twenty sixteen is really what made the difference, because 1802 01:56:06.199 --> 01:56:09.119 so many people were awake and aware then that the 1803 01:56:09.319 --> 01:56:13.920 sheer numbers overrulled the algorithm of the rigged electronic voting machines. 1804 01:56:14.359 --> 01:56:18.520 Then sheer numbers actually just you know, cave that in 1805 01:56:19.119 --> 01:56:22.800 and put in a president that the people elected who 1806 01:56:22.920 --> 01:56:26.439 was going to represent we the people and stand strong 1807 01:56:26.680 --> 01:56:32.800 for our sovereignty. This when Trump went, it was in 1808 01:56:33.359 --> 01:56:38.159 my experience back in mid eighties that these perpetrators feared 1809 01:56:38.239 --> 01:56:43.319 him back then because I had to do. I was 1810 01:56:43.399 --> 01:56:48.720 carrying out an operation in Atlantic City at the at 1811 01:56:48.760 --> 01:56:53.520 one of the casinos that Trump owned, and there was 1812 01:56:53.560 --> 01:56:55.680 a chance I might have run into and I was 1813 01:56:55.800 --> 01:56:58.600 told he's not one of us. And a fact that 1814 01:56:58.800 --> 01:57:01.319 I was told somebody's not one of us that was 1815 01:57:01.399 --> 01:57:03.399 do or die. If I had anything to do with 1816 01:57:03.520 --> 01:57:06.560 that person, I would be killed. So that's how important 1817 01:57:06.960 --> 01:57:09.000 that was. Then they were afraid of him. Then they 1818 01:57:09.039 --> 01:57:11.239 knew he was against human trafficking, they knew he was 1819 01:57:11.279 --> 01:57:16.600 against drug ops and their New World Order agenda. Back then. 1820 01:57:17.159 --> 01:57:20.119 You know, I didn't see Trump, didn't meet him, don't know, 1821 01:57:20.399 --> 01:57:23.279 you know, this is just all I know right there, 1822 01:57:23.760 --> 01:57:28.239 and I also knew that people wanted him in in 1823 01:57:28.720 --> 01:57:32.760 twenty sixteen, Hillary Clinton was supposed to be put in place. 1824 01:57:32.920 --> 01:57:35.479 That was how it was rigged, That's what was supposed 1825 01:57:35.520 --> 01:57:37.920 to happen. They couldn't believe it when you have that, 1826 01:57:38.199 --> 01:57:40.159 when you look at that and see what happened when 1827 01:57:40.840 --> 01:57:43.880 when Trump won, I mean, they freaked out, They totally 1828 01:57:43.960 --> 01:57:48.600 felt they just they triggered violence. They just went all in. 1829 01:57:49.239 --> 01:57:55.359 And ever since then, we've had a good expose while 1830 01:57:55.479 --> 01:57:58.119 Trump was in on the human trafficking operations, you know, 1831 01:57:58.159 --> 01:58:00.560 when he started building the wall and closing border to 1832 01:58:01.239 --> 01:58:07.239 the human trafficking and exposing the pedophile agenda and all 1833 01:58:07.359 --> 01:58:11.239 like that, that's amazing that was accomplished. That opened a 1834 01:58:11.279 --> 01:58:15.000 lot of eyes, so that by the time twenty twenty 1835 01:58:15.039 --> 01:58:18.880 came around, you know, we we we definitely, I mean 1836 01:58:18.920 --> 01:58:22.159 we we did elect them again, but that didn't matter 1837 01:58:22.239 --> 01:58:25.960 because they stole blatantly stole the elections right right in 1838 01:58:26.039 --> 01:58:28.560 front of us. I've had people say, how did the 1839 01:58:28.960 --> 01:58:33.079 how do US uh you know international question, how do 1840 01:58:33.279 --> 01:58:37.079 US votes go down instead of up? Okay, we were 1841 01:58:37.199 --> 01:58:39.880 watching that night and they were just going down on you, 1842 01:58:40.439 --> 01:58:43.279 and it was like, well, that's just that's because it 1843 01:58:43.399 --> 01:58:46.000 was rigged by the media and and everything else at 1844 01:58:46.039 --> 01:58:51.239 that time. So the elections were were blatantly stolen, and 1845 01:58:52.119 --> 01:58:54.439 they had four years to make up for They have 1846 01:58:54.520 --> 01:58:56.880 one hundred year plan. They were at the end of it. 1847 01:58:57.199 --> 01:58:59.640 Hillary was supposed to bring in this new world order 1848 01:59:00.000 --> 01:59:03.600 and it was supposed to go smooth. It didn't through 1849 01:59:03.640 --> 01:59:06.560 a monkey wrench. And and ever since, here we are. 1850 01:59:07.760 --> 01:59:12.239 You know, they're exposing themselves at every turn. We see 1851 01:59:12.279 --> 01:59:15.239 what they're doing. Their wizard curtain has been pulled back. 1852 01:59:15.399 --> 01:59:19.359 We see exactly who's behind there, what they're doing. Follow 1853 01:59:19.479 --> 01:59:22.119 the money, you know, follow the science. It will take 1854 01:59:22.159 --> 01:59:22.960 you the same people. 1855 01:59:23.279 --> 01:59:23.439 You know. 1856 01:59:23.560 --> 01:59:27.720 Follow the money, and and look at the trauma that 1857 01:59:28.000 --> 01:59:32.760 is being used for mind control purposes, because mind control 1858 01:59:33.079 --> 01:59:37.600 MK ultra mind control is their ultimate weapons system for 1859 01:59:37.880 --> 01:59:43.560 ushering in their slave society agenda. They're freaking out. See 1860 01:59:43.600 --> 01:59:48.399 what they're doing. They're just proceeding anyway. We catch them 1861 01:59:48.439 --> 01:59:50.760 and lie after lie after lie. They don't care. They 1862 01:59:50.920 --> 01:59:55.680 just keep going. They don't It doesn't matter if they 1863 01:59:55.760 --> 01:59:57.960 have a handful that's still listening. They want to see 1864 01:59:58.000 --> 02:00:00.239 how much they can divide us, and you know, keep 1865 02:00:00.279 --> 02:00:04.079 people compliant through the traumas and then repeating the same 1866 02:00:04.199 --> 02:00:08.640 narrative over and over and over. Repetition is a form 1867 02:00:08.840 --> 02:00:12.720 of mind control, now is this? Uh? 1868 02:00:13.159 --> 02:00:15.600 You know, we they have claims by our our three 1869 02:00:15.640 --> 02:00:18.720 letter agencies that you know, all mk ultra projects were 1870 02:00:18.720 --> 02:00:23.079 discontinued and we know that's bold. Uh how how involved 1871 02:00:23.399 --> 02:00:26.119 with you know, not only mind control on the like 1872 02:00:26.199 --> 02:00:30.000 we were just talking about, but still targeting individuals for 1873 02:00:30.600 --> 02:00:34.640 things like uh, you know, the the honeypot like assassinations, 1874 02:00:35.239 --> 02:00:40.119 like being a celebrity type of Menchurian candidate. You know, 1875 02:00:41.199 --> 02:00:44.039 how prevalent do you think this is still in these 1876 02:00:44.159 --> 02:00:44.880 modern times? 1877 02:00:46.000 --> 02:00:49.119 Extremely provabent? You know, and look at Epstein Island, you 1878 02:00:49.199 --> 02:00:52.319 know that is a great example there because the human 1879 02:00:52.399 --> 02:00:55.199 trafficking ops that I was forced to work back in 1880 02:00:55.319 --> 02:00:58.600 the in the eighties, which already lay aground work for 1881 02:00:58.720 --> 02:01:01.920 all that out of sac Thomas and Haiti, the Clinton 1882 02:01:02.279 --> 02:01:07.119 uh trafficking ops and drug ops were running through there, 1883 02:01:07.159 --> 02:01:09.560 and it's a funding mechanism. So they've got a lot 1884 02:01:09.640 --> 02:01:14.000 of a lot of people targeted on so many levels 1885 02:01:14.199 --> 02:01:17.399 like that. And then you know, again mind controls the 1886 02:01:17.479 --> 02:01:20.880 sliding scale to information control and there's a lot of 1887 02:01:20.920 --> 02:01:24.520 people that don't have that one piece of the puzzle 1888 02:01:24.640 --> 02:01:27.760 necessary for putting all the pieces together, you know, to 1889 02:01:27.840 --> 02:01:31.359 pulling in the big picture to see exactly going on. 1890 02:01:31.680 --> 02:01:33.800 It's hard for him to do when they're working, you know, 1891 02:01:33.920 --> 02:01:37.319 two or three jobs just to get food on the 1892 02:01:37.399 --> 02:01:39.800 table or put gas in their car. You know, it's 1893 02:01:39.920 --> 02:01:43.399 it's really hard on people to do that. So then 1894 02:01:43.880 --> 02:01:49.680 barding them with repetitive information keeps them more you know, 1895 02:01:50.039 --> 02:01:54.560 more compliant, and that is a form of MK ultra 1896 02:01:54.680 --> 02:01:59.520 mind control right there. So it's it's massive, it's extensive, 1897 02:02:00.119 --> 02:02:03.760 but it's definitely definitely lost its grip. We're by far 1898 02:02:03.880 --> 02:02:07.920 the majority people who are awake and aware and rising 1899 02:02:08.000 --> 02:02:12.119 above this nonsense are by far the majority. But we 1900 02:02:12.239 --> 02:02:14.239 need to get more people on board. We need to 1901 02:02:14.600 --> 02:02:19.640 arm them with the ability to reclaim and maintain free 1902 02:02:19.760 --> 02:02:24.479 thought because you know, it's anytime trauma occurs, we need 1903 02:02:24.560 --> 02:02:27.039 to safeguard our think. You know, pick up a pen 1904 02:02:27.920 --> 02:02:30.960 and right that was that was the primary main thing 1905 02:02:31.039 --> 02:02:34.720 that Mark Phillips taught me that was kept from the population. 1906 02:02:34.840 --> 02:02:38.199 It's just the importance of moving on. What that does 1907 02:02:38.840 --> 02:02:41.600 is it shifts information or to logic part of the 1908 02:02:41.680 --> 02:02:45.760 brain where it's critically analyzed, it's processed in a different 1909 02:02:45.800 --> 02:02:48.039 way because it takes that part of the brain to 1910 02:02:48.199 --> 02:02:51.479 move a pan not tight, it doesn't work the same way. 1911 02:02:51.920 --> 02:02:54.560 It's the moving of a pen. And that's why they 1912 02:02:54.600 --> 02:02:56.720 took it out of the school system too, because they 1913 02:02:56.720 --> 02:02:59.920 don't want our kids critically analyzing information. They just want 1914 02:03:00.079 --> 02:03:02.760 pump information in their head. They want to teach them 1915 02:03:02.840 --> 02:03:05.239 what to think, not how to think. You know, and 1916 02:03:05.319 --> 02:03:08.720 this is an important component of how to think that 1917 02:03:08.880 --> 02:03:11.600 we all can use it, all should use every single day. 1918 02:03:11.680 --> 02:03:14.720 I still do, you know, just vent out what the 1919 02:03:14.840 --> 02:03:18.319 fear is, vent out what you're being bombarded with negatively, 1920 02:03:18.840 --> 02:03:21.359 and then add a solution. When you add a solution 1921 02:03:21.520 --> 02:03:23.960 and I spell su l. When you add a solution, 1922 02:03:24.960 --> 02:03:28.359 then you're opening around pathways in your brain above and 1923 02:03:28.479 --> 02:03:32.199 beyond the repetition programming or the trauma. It lifts you 1924 02:03:32.359 --> 02:03:35.720 above that. It makes your brain fire and new directions. 1925 02:03:35.800 --> 02:03:39.840 That empowers. Negativity is immobilizing, and we need to be 1926 02:03:39.920 --> 02:03:44.079 able to respond to what's going on. The ability to 1927 02:03:44.319 --> 02:03:49.800 respond responsibility, it's a beautiful thing, you know. It's a 1928 02:03:49.920 --> 02:03:53.119 conscious awareness and picking up a pen gives us that 1929 02:03:53.279 --> 02:03:56.159 and empowers us to be able to start making a difference. 1930 02:03:56.239 --> 02:03:59.840 Protect our own children, get out in our community, secure election, 1931 02:04:00.079 --> 02:04:03.159 and make sure we have a good sheriff that we 1932 02:04:03.239 --> 02:04:05.720 can rely on on our sheriff as us line of 1933 02:04:05.840 --> 02:04:09.600 defense against federal overreach. It's in our constitution. They're amazing 1934 02:04:09.680 --> 02:04:12.439 the power they have, so make sure that we have 1935 02:04:12.600 --> 02:04:16.439 a good sheriff. Make sure your sheriff knows his power. 1936 02:04:16.760 --> 02:04:21.560 It's amazing. CSPOA dot org is really empowering a lot 1937 02:04:21.600 --> 02:04:25.399 of sheriffs right now to stand up and make a difference. 1938 02:04:25.640 --> 02:04:27.640 But it begins with picking up a pen. You know, 1939 02:04:28.119 --> 02:04:32.039 something as simple as that. Write a letter to your sheriff, 1940 02:04:32.119 --> 02:04:34.800 write a letter to your congressman or whatever. Write it 1941 02:04:34.880 --> 02:04:37.680 on paper first, then type it so they read it. 1942 02:04:37.800 --> 02:04:41.039 But you know, still do it on paper first because 1943 02:04:41.039 --> 02:04:45.279 it's so important to be able to activate that part 1944 02:04:45.479 --> 02:04:48.960 of our brains. Again, that is only one simple thing 1945 02:04:49.399 --> 02:04:51.800 of the simple things that are in PTSD. Time to 1946 02:04:51.920 --> 02:04:54.840 heal that everybody can apply to their own lives to 1947 02:04:55.560 --> 02:04:56.800 be empowered going forward. 1948 02:04:57.439 --> 02:04:59.279 Yeah, let's talk a little bit more that while we're 1949 02:04:59.319 --> 02:05:05.640 discussing solutions for people, you know, like we recommended throughout this. 1950 02:05:05.840 --> 02:05:09.560 You have to remove yourself from these situations, not participate 1951 02:05:10.119 --> 02:05:13.119 in the trauma and mind control, and there's there's many 1952 02:05:13.199 --> 02:05:16.880 different ways of doing that. What do you think the 1953 02:05:17.039 --> 02:05:20.880 answers are on an individual level for people to kind 1954 02:05:20.880 --> 02:05:23.640 of start breaking free. I know they've done such a 1955 02:05:23.760 --> 02:05:27.520 wonderful job through the media, through social media, through movies 1956 02:05:27.560 --> 02:05:32.479 in Hollywood, even destroying regular relationships, the family unit, relationships 1957 02:05:32.520 --> 02:05:37.600 between men and women. I mean, there's ridiculous expectations between 1958 02:05:37.720 --> 02:05:40.720 relationships between men and women a lot at the time 1959 02:05:41.199 --> 02:05:44.560 due to the mind can program that they've received from 1960 02:05:44.640 --> 02:05:47.920 Hollywood or the you know, any movies or even social 1961 02:05:48.039 --> 02:05:51.359 media now and that's even being warped even more with 1962 02:05:51.479 --> 02:05:53.800 the direction that they're taking it with the you know, 1963 02:05:53.920 --> 02:05:56.840 the pedophilia, all the other things we were talking about. Yes, 1964 02:05:57.560 --> 02:06:00.920 So what do you think are the bests for people 1965 02:06:01.399 --> 02:06:05.119 like removing themselves from that, not being not watching TV 1966 02:06:05.279 --> 02:06:08.600 here than media, not participating in their agendas, and probably 1967 02:06:08.760 --> 02:06:13.439 just becoming as most self sufficient and whole as possible. Right, 1968 02:06:13.560 --> 02:06:15.079 what other solutions can we offer? 1969 02:06:16.000 --> 02:06:20.119 Yes, we're the nutrition and plenty of plenty of sleep 1970 02:06:20.279 --> 02:06:22.079 because they want to keep us working, so how we 1971 02:06:22.119 --> 02:06:25.359 don't get enough sleep. That sleep deprivation is a part 1972 02:06:25.439 --> 02:06:29.359 of MK ultra mind control. Get out in nature, Breathe 1973 02:06:29.399 --> 02:06:32.720 the air, reattached to the earth. Mother Nature nurtures, you know, 1974 02:06:32.840 --> 02:06:36.319 it's a beautiful thing. And now we're told to fear nature, 1975 02:06:36.359 --> 02:06:38.159 you know, like fear. Oh my gosh. You know, it's 1976 02:06:38.199 --> 02:06:43.079 the environed mutal onslaught that we're under right now. Mother 1977 02:06:43.239 --> 02:06:45.560 Nature is resilient, you know, just like the strength of 1978 02:06:45.680 --> 02:06:48.720 the human spirit, and we need to just start taking 1979 02:06:48.760 --> 02:06:50.960 care of it by caring. That's how you do. Get 1980 02:06:51.000 --> 02:06:55.279 out in nature. Listen to the birds, Listen to nature 1981 02:06:55.399 --> 02:06:58.800 intercommunicating with each other. Breathe in the air. You know, 1982 02:06:58.920 --> 02:07:02.479 that's an important one right there, because when won't get 1983 02:07:02.520 --> 02:07:07.760 sufficient oxygen to our brain, it inhibits critical analysis and 1984 02:07:07.920 --> 02:07:11.880 free thought. That's why they're so hell bent unmasking the kids, 1985 02:07:12.239 --> 02:07:13.960 you know, and get the mask on the kids, keep 1986 02:07:14.000 --> 02:07:16.560 it on the kids in the schools. You know, that's 1987 02:07:16.800 --> 02:07:20.800 that's got to stop when people understand what masks actually 1988 02:07:20.920 --> 02:07:23.920 do and why they're used in MK ultru mind control. 1989 02:07:24.479 --> 02:07:26.319 My own daughter was trafficked in a mask. 1990 02:07:27.079 --> 02:07:27.239 You know. 1991 02:07:27.319 --> 02:07:31.039 Look at Michael Jesson, he had he had turned thirty 1992 02:07:31.079 --> 02:07:33.960 and you know, had some some things that were leaking. 1993 02:07:34.000 --> 02:07:36.159 They wanted to silent him through that process and put 1994 02:07:36.199 --> 02:07:38.760 a mask on it. And he wore a mask everywhere, 1995 02:07:38.920 --> 02:07:41.000 so he felt like he didn't have a voice. And 1996 02:07:41.079 --> 02:07:44.800 that's what it does. It muffles our voice, inhibits oxygen 1997 02:07:45.079 --> 02:07:48.680 to the brain necessary for critical analysis, free thought, and 1998 02:07:48.920 --> 02:07:52.880 depersonalizes the same way that all this gender confusion, non 1999 02:07:52.960 --> 02:07:59.680 sense depersonalizes. They want to depersonalize to stop individuality, soul expression, strength, 2000 02:07:59.720 --> 02:08:02.399 as you know, it goes right back to that same thing. 2001 02:08:02.960 --> 02:08:05.760 So when we become aware of that, you know, go 2002 02:08:05.880 --> 02:08:10.239 out breathe some mayor you know, inhale it deeply. Pat 2003 02:08:10.279 --> 02:08:13.079 your dog, you know, that's another one. You know, just 2004 02:08:13.520 --> 02:08:17.720 their pets are amazing. There unconditional love, you know, take 2005 02:08:17.760 --> 02:08:20.960 them for a while. It just it's really it's really 2006 02:08:21.359 --> 02:08:28.159 good to to enjoy pets as well. So, you know, 2007 02:08:28.319 --> 02:08:31.920 those are just a few small things that we can 2008 02:08:32.039 --> 02:08:36.479 do that really help us stay grounded and rejuvenated. It's 2009 02:08:36.520 --> 02:08:38.399 something I live by. I do it every day. We 2010 02:08:38.520 --> 02:08:41.439 have to take time for ourselves in order to have 2011 02:08:41.640 --> 02:08:42.439 time to give others. 2012 02:08:43.239 --> 02:08:46.159 Yeah, and you said you believe that more people are 2013 02:08:46.239 --> 02:08:49.199 actually on the side of good, are actually waking up 2014 02:08:49.840 --> 02:08:53.880 that are not participating anymore. That is extremely you know, 2015 02:08:54.079 --> 02:08:56.640 most people won't be able to tell that, because, especially 2016 02:08:56.680 --> 02:08:58.840 if you're just paying attention to what the media is 2017 02:08:58.880 --> 02:09:01.640 telling you, they're going to stay outside. So you have 2018 02:09:01.760 --> 02:09:04.239 to get out there and individually connect with people like 2019 02:09:04.359 --> 02:09:06.840 you and I are doing like I do everything, and 2020 02:09:06.960 --> 02:09:09.119 that is how you can see where most people are 2021 02:09:09.119 --> 02:09:11.800 coming from. And I happen to believe too that most 2022 02:09:11.920 --> 02:09:16.520 people are on the side of reasonable thinking and not 2023 02:09:17.560 --> 02:09:21.600 mangenocide and mind control. So you know, I do have 2024 02:09:21.800 --> 02:09:24.520 hope that we are going in the right direction as 2025 02:09:24.600 --> 02:09:25.199 a collective. 2026 02:09:26.359 --> 02:09:31.000 Yes, we are on a global scale. It's exciting because 2027 02:09:31.359 --> 02:09:35.720 it's like knowledge is our defense against mind control, and 2028 02:09:35.840 --> 02:09:38.399 I certainly gained that knowledge. So I saw it being 2029 02:09:38.439 --> 02:09:40.800 imposed all around. I saw all the components of MK 2030 02:09:41.000 --> 02:09:44.319 ultra being imposed. I see them now. You know, haven't 2031 02:09:44.319 --> 02:09:48.079 been around those perpetrators. I know how they think, and 2032 02:09:48.159 --> 02:09:51.800 it's shallow and it's wicked and it's mean. But they're 2033 02:09:51.840 --> 02:09:54.560 so free out right now that that's evidence in itself, 2034 02:09:54.840 --> 02:09:57.119 the fact that they know that people are waking up 2035 02:09:57.680 --> 02:09:59.880 and so they're imposing more and more trauma. We need 2036 02:10:00.079 --> 02:10:03.640 to make it through this curve and strengthen each other 2037 02:10:04.079 --> 02:10:08.239 and shut off their media voice and shut off the 2038 02:10:08.720 --> 02:10:12.479 TV and get away from that. That's a very important 2039 02:10:12.640 --> 02:10:16.359 aspect of it. But I could see mind control because 2040 02:10:16.399 --> 02:10:21.000 of my knowledge. I can see their reactions because of 2041 02:10:21.119 --> 02:10:25.960 havn't been around them for all those years. And I 2042 02:10:26.119 --> 02:10:29.199 also it was my experience to heal and to wake 2043 02:10:29.319 --> 02:10:32.800 up from mind control. And when I first woke up 2044 02:10:32.840 --> 02:10:38.079 from mind control, I felt so insane. And right now, 2045 02:10:38.159 --> 02:10:40.199 you know, everybody is like, oh my gosh, this world 2046 02:10:40.279 --> 02:10:43.720 is so crazy. It all looks so insane. It is, 2047 02:10:44.039 --> 02:10:47.079 you know, all that part what they're doing insane. But 2048 02:10:47.880 --> 02:10:51.560 we're gaining our sanity, our clarity, our free thought and 2049 02:10:51.720 --> 02:10:56.079 moving forward. And so I'm seeing this huge, great awakening happening. 2050 02:10:56.600 --> 02:10:59.359 And as people reclaim their free thought and their strength 2051 02:10:59.439 --> 02:11:01.640 and spirit, know, they're getting out in their communities, they're 2052 02:11:01.680 --> 02:11:04.880 talking with each other, they're they're making a difference or 2053 02:11:05.000 --> 02:11:08.960 standing up for their values again, and they're not really 2054 02:11:09.640 --> 02:11:15.119 as concerned with what these globalists think they're imposing on 2055 02:11:15.319 --> 02:11:18.600 us as they are to just restructure their lives, grow 2056 02:11:18.680 --> 02:11:22.039 their own food, you know, and get their own nutrition, 2057 02:11:22.680 --> 02:11:26.800 make sure their kids are protected, and you know. So 2058 02:11:26.960 --> 02:11:32.119 there's a huge movement that direction, and it's a beautiful 2059 02:11:32.199 --> 02:11:36.119 thing to see. It's easy for me to smile all 2060 02:11:36.159 --> 02:11:40.560 the time because I see this happening. I've been watching 2061 02:11:40.680 --> 02:11:43.640 it progress through the nineties to the point where we 2062 02:11:43.720 --> 02:11:46.800 are today, watching people wake up on a global scale, 2063 02:11:47.399 --> 02:11:50.880 and it's an exciting time to be alive. You know, 2064 02:11:51.119 --> 02:11:54.239 when we realized that we're just in this curve and 2065 02:11:54.399 --> 02:11:57.479 real seeing for the first time people are seeing look 2066 02:11:57.640 --> 02:12:02.079 so horrific. It's been going on my whole life. They're 2067 02:12:02.199 --> 02:12:05.000 just finally seeing it. And awareness is the first step 2068 02:12:05.079 --> 02:12:08.600 towards positive, necessary change. You know, it's not so bad 2069 02:12:08.720 --> 02:12:11.239 seeing it. We just need to realize this has been 2070 02:12:11.279 --> 02:12:14.560 going on a long time that and and uproot it 2071 02:12:15.119 --> 02:12:20.119 all the way to its its roots to be able 2072 02:12:20.199 --> 02:12:25.039 to stop this nonsense from affecting us and creeping in 2073 02:12:25.119 --> 02:12:26.239 on our lives any further. 2074 02:12:26.920 --> 02:12:31.600 Yeah. Now, as far as Trump goes, or any politician 2075 02:12:31.720 --> 02:12:34.640 or person in that high of a position of power goes, 2076 02:12:35.199 --> 02:12:38.359 I remain agnostic. I don't I still don't trust anyone, 2077 02:12:38.600 --> 02:12:41.439 you know, you know, I don't trust Trump, But I 2078 02:12:41.560 --> 02:12:44.479 do appreciate the information that you're bringing forward and your 2079 02:12:44.720 --> 02:12:47.560 your thoughts about Trump. I think it adds and lets 2080 02:12:47.600 --> 02:12:49.880 people make their own decisions about it. I'm going to 2081 02:12:49.920 --> 02:12:54.039 remain agnostic at this point, but I do appreciate the information, 2082 02:12:54.159 --> 02:12:55.680 and I want to know do you think there are 2083 02:12:56.239 --> 02:13:00.359 indeed good guys at high levels that are working behind 2084 02:13:00.399 --> 02:13:01.760 the scenes to correct this. 2085 02:13:02.920 --> 02:13:03.079 Oh? 2086 02:13:03.199 --> 02:13:06.239 Absolutely, there's good and bad in everything. But I also 2087 02:13:06.319 --> 02:13:11.159 agree with what said because I'm not. We need to 2088 02:13:11.199 --> 02:13:13.560 govern our own linds. We need to govern our own lives. 2089 02:13:13.880 --> 02:13:15.920 We need to get back to the lower levels to 2090 02:13:16.079 --> 02:13:20.079 be able to there's something pressures there. We've got to 2091 02:13:20.079 --> 02:13:22.359 get big government went out of our lives. We need 2092 02:13:22.479 --> 02:13:27.119 that anymore. We were shown a lot through Trump, and 2093 02:13:27.239 --> 02:13:33.840 I certainly do not agree with everything about Trump. Why 2094 02:13:34.000 --> 02:13:37.000 would I. He's a person. You know, that's not fair, 2095 02:13:37.279 --> 02:13:40.319 that's just not a We shouldn't do that to anybody. 2096 02:13:40.520 --> 02:13:44.039 And when with these politicians in that position and then 2097 02:13:44.520 --> 02:13:47.680 let them live our lives, what are we doing? You know, 2098 02:13:47.800 --> 02:13:50.960 that's just a ridiculous thing. Altogether. We need to govern 2099 02:13:51.039 --> 02:13:54.399 our own minds, govern our own lives, pay attention to 2100 02:13:54.560 --> 02:13:59.039 who is in office by secure elections from a local level, 2101 02:13:59.399 --> 02:14:04.920 you know, on up. That's that's extremely important. I'm forever 2102 02:14:05.079 --> 02:14:08.880 grateful that Trump opens so many eyes to human trafficking, 2103 02:14:09.199 --> 02:14:14.439 to the pedophile agunda, to mind control. I'm grateful that 2104 02:14:14.680 --> 02:14:17.479 he was able to stand up against the onslaught of 2105 02:14:17.600 --> 02:14:22.960 these wicked, horrible perpetrators and not cave into mind control 2106 02:14:24.039 --> 02:14:27.760 himself from the traumas that he and his family were 2107 02:14:27.880 --> 02:14:30.880 subjected to. So I'm grateful for that, But I don't 2108 02:14:30.920 --> 02:14:34.479 have to take it any further than that. Why, you know, 2109 02:14:35.000 --> 02:14:39.640 he empowered us. You know, we are empowered, and if 2110 02:14:40.479 --> 02:14:43.439 people don't feel Key empowered them, then they need to 2111 02:14:43.640 --> 02:14:48.479 reclaim empower another direction, whatever it is. We are aware now, 2112 02:14:49.279 --> 02:14:53.800 and awareness is towards positive, necessary change, and we need 2113 02:14:53.920 --> 02:14:56.479 to stop ruin leaders that we didn't elect. 2114 02:14:56.600 --> 02:14:59.239 Right, And you do believe that there are other people 2115 02:14:59.399 --> 02:15:03.079 like Mark these out there that are kind of leading 2116 02:15:03.159 --> 02:15:04.000 the charge against this. 2117 02:15:05.239 --> 02:15:10.239 Yes, there are many people, good people in hot positions. 2118 02:15:10.439 --> 02:15:14.439 They don't get voice anymore then, you know then than 2119 02:15:14.720 --> 02:15:17.119 some of us, do you know? They they need to 2120 02:15:17.159 --> 02:15:19.640 get on your show, you know, they need to have 2121 02:15:19.840 --> 02:15:22.239 you amplify their voice to get it out there for 2122 02:15:22.359 --> 02:15:26.439 them too, because they're being shut down anytime they try 2123 02:15:26.520 --> 02:15:30.880 to take a stand too. But yeah, there's there's there's 2124 02:15:31.039 --> 02:15:34.199 really good people well in touch and the ones who 2125 02:15:34.439 --> 02:15:40.279 genuinely want to redore our national sovereignty, our constitutional values 2126 02:15:40.319 --> 02:15:45.119 of freedom and justice for all. You know, that's that's 2127 02:15:45.199 --> 02:15:49.319 what's that's what's beautiful, and that's our own personal responsibility 2128 02:15:49.399 --> 02:15:52.039 to when we find out who we are on the 2129 02:15:52.079 --> 02:15:55.199 base core energy of our being and gather that strength 2130 02:15:55.239 --> 02:15:58.279 of human spirit and live the love we are. Love 2131 02:15:58.399 --> 02:16:01.159 is the most powerful force, and you reverse, strength of 2132 02:16:01.239 --> 02:16:05.560 the human spirit is infinite power for it. That is 2133 02:16:05.680 --> 02:16:10.199 what these perpetrators fear most. That's because it's where we 2134 02:16:10.319 --> 02:16:13.079 win where they lose. We need to claim our victory 2135 02:16:13.680 --> 02:16:19.239 and then choose our path forward with wisdom and realize 2136 02:16:19.279 --> 02:16:23.760 that politicians are just as vulnerable to mind control, technological 2137 02:16:23.800 --> 02:16:28.880 and otherwise as any of us are. And that's something 2138 02:16:29.600 --> 02:16:35.280 really important to be aware of and stop allowing for 2139 02:16:35.399 --> 02:16:38.079 such big government influence on our lives. What are they 2140 02:16:38.200 --> 02:16:41.959 doing in our school system anyway? You know what happened 2141 02:16:41.959 --> 02:16:45.799 to pta parent teacher association where the parents went in 2142 02:16:46.079 --> 02:16:49.159 and said, you can I teach my child you know, 2143 02:16:49.280 --> 02:16:53.399 I mean, we need that back on everybody education system. 2144 02:16:54.159 --> 02:16:56.239 Mind control is a whole other show we'd have to do, 2145 02:16:56.360 --> 02:17:01.879 but yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, thank you so much, Kathy. 2146 02:17:02.000 --> 02:17:05.680 This was fantastic. I love the funnel thoughts you put 2147 02:17:05.719 --> 02:17:08.559 in there. How before you head out, how can people 2148 02:17:08.639 --> 02:17:11.360 find your documentary, your books if they want to get 2149 02:17:11.399 --> 02:17:13.399 in touch with you, social media, all that good stuff. 2150 02:17:15.479 --> 02:17:18.959 All of it really is found on my website trance 2151 02:17:19.159 --> 02:17:22.840 dashformation dot com. 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Well, thank you so much, thank you for coming 2183 02:19:27.040 --> 02:19:30.000 out with this information, thank you for your strength, and 2184 02:19:30.200 --> 02:19:32.239 thank you so much for coming on today. This was 2185 02:19:32.319 --> 02:19:34.520 fantastic and I would definitely love to speak with you 2186 02:19:34.600 --> 02:19:35.639 again in the future. 2187 02:19:36.440 --> 02:19:38.440 I hope so I look forward to it. Thank you 2188 02:19:38.639 --> 02:19:40.360 so much. I appreciate what you're doing. 2189 02:19:40.719 --> 02:19:43.319 Thank you, Kathy. All Right, till next time, everyone, have 2190 02:19:43.440 --> 02:19:46.639 an excellent evening and we will be talking again tomorrow. 2191 02:19:46.760 --> 02:19:55.680 We'll see you then. 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