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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome back to the Challenge. I guess all

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about the challenge as always, I am Brian uh, sitting

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over in his bedroom, open his kids, shut the goddamn

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mouths for once.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, that's not gonna happen. Big over a sweeteam, and.

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Speaker 1: Sitting at work thinking about the deep deep fried catfish

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he's gonna be eating when he gets off.

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Speaker 3: Zachi bananas.

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Speaker 2: Suck the eyeballs out of that thing, Zack, eat the

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eyeballs first.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's how they do it on Survivor.

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Speaker 1: He head for the Challenge podcast Facebook group, all that

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fun stuff. Hey, Tim, Yeah you sort of took notes tonight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I did. I planned my night very poorly, and

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you know, I usually do the notes while I'm at work,

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but I've actually been having to do work lately, which

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is like a big bummer, So I didn't have time

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and whatever, so I made really quick notes as I

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fast forwarded through this episode.

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Speaker 3: You guys were last week and we talked about like

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Stove potentially doing something to steal Carlin spot. I know

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she's gone this week.

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Speaker 2: Oh we should have asked him, huh.

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Speaker 3: We should, like, Stove, is she in your basement? Or something.

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Speaker 2: She's with Gareth.

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Speaker 3: Gareth.

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Speaker 2: Yes, this episode started with an Evelyn flashback. This was

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not on my bingo card for this season. Were you

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guys shocked to see Evelyn shocked?

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Speaker 3: Love? No, they shocked after we saw Cyrus last week.

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You know, it seems like everyone's on the table.

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Speaker 2: I love that they're going back to the old school people,

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but Evelyn, I don't know. Do you think they like

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gave her heads up, like, hey, we're going to use

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this footage of you from twenty years ago.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm sure all their contracts they all on whatever

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footage you can use it and whatever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just one more reason to not do this,

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because she's like a successful attorney, right, She's like a

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big powerful person.

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Speaker 1: Now it should have been using the footage of the

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miz get that overlap.

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Speaker 2: That was his shoulder in the Cyrus flashback. We also

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get the flashback of Bananas and Tyler on that elimination

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from Rivals where CT pulled out the two too. So

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it's na Nea, May and Tina. They're coming back to

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the house. They're partying, blah blah blah. Laurel drops the

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line that I think I mentioned last week where she's

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talking to Bananas, and she compares the fight between her

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and Kara to like a little sister who's you know,

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yap yap yapp smack and you know, talking smack, and

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then the big sister reacts, and then the big sister

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gets in trouble, and she says, that's what's happening here, whatever, Laurel.

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Speaker 3: I thought that was interesting because all season long, Bananas

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on his podcast has been talked about this like Car's

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not as innocent, and he's used this exact description essentially

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in the apparently he got it from Laurel herself.

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Speaker 2: It does seem weird though, when he's in this moment,

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and maybe this is me reading into it. In this moment,

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it seemed like Bananas wanted to be anywhere else. He

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did not want to be talking to Laurel during this.

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He was sort of like backing away, sort of just

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sort of you know, uh hying it, not really paying attention.

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I don't know. The vibe was weird, and he says

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in his confessionally he says the whole house is against Laurel,

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which seems true. Just sort of like reading between the lines,

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is what's happening here?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you know, he's seen now they've gone

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in twice together his nominees, so he might be trying

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to distance himself.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a big part of it. Yeah, Laurel,

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for her part, is still being rude to Kara. Throws

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out some passive aggressive comment about having a braddy redheaded

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kid or something like that, just sort of still being

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uncool with this whole situation. The fuck over yourself, Zach,

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is your outlook changed forgetting the Laurel situation?

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Speaker 3: I know I think they're I think she's still terrible,

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but I also think, you know, you guys. I'm always

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one to telling you guys, oh you guys like buying

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these conspiracy theories, like you know, the show's not trying

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to hide things from us. This is one time I think, like, yeah,

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I could see them editing Kara to look better than

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maybe she is on these seasons.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I don't think that anybody doubts that she quote

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unquote started it, but I just think the the reaction

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wasn't like appropriate. That's my whole deal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I can relate to because I

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feel like I've gotten better bat but that used to

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be my thing. Who is like if you come at

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me at like a level four, I'm going straight to

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level ten, Like if you started, I'm ending it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think there's gotta be there's gonna be limits.

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Like you're not gonna murder a person, you know what

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I mean, You're.

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Speaker 1: Not gonna bring up them one of the worst things

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that's ever happened to them, the entire right.

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Speaker 2: It's all like sort of shades gray in the middle there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, of course I'm not gonna do that to him

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unless they find the body.

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Speaker 2: You wouldn't know. You're from Alaska, you would know how

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to handle a dead body of guessing you know where

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the bears are to eat it or some shit.

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Speaker 3: There's actually a small area in Yellowstone where you can

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technically get away with murder.

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Speaker 2: What it's like, uh, like, like what is like the

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open waters or whatever?

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Speaker 3: No, I think it's called Like, I can't it's called it.

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I think it's called like the Circle of Death and

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air death. Basically I can't write exact details that works.

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But because of the way the laws are WRITI like,

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you have to you know, be tried by you know,

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your peers, within the part the place where the crime

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is committed. But this area, it's like right on the

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Idaho Wyoming border, So technically, if you're in the right

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area and you commit the crime, they cannot feel the

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jury of locals from that area. So you could just

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be like, if they send you quake, like this is

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not constitutional, Like these are not I'm not being tried

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in the appropriate state by the appropriate people.

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Speaker 2: Interesting. Yeah, all right, Well we're in the Era four bedroom.

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Jenny's complaining. I didn't kind of didn't see this one coming.

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It turns out Jenny's kind of a shitty person too

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this episode. Did we know Jenny was shitty? Am I

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the only one that didn't know this?

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Speaker 3: Why she thinks she's being shitty? I think she's just

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realizing that, you know, all this talk this season, people

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will be like, you know, we're gonna take turn, we're

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gonna volunteer her, and she realized, oh, her team's not

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gonna do that. They're just gonna throw her in every

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chance to get.

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Speaker 2: Well to me. I guess it's it's the same sort

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of entitlement that everybody gets when it's sort of like

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you're new and this is just sort of where you

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are in the pecking order. It's it's like, not an offence,

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game is being played.

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Speaker 1: She's not new, she's a former cheating.

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Speaker 2: This is only her second season, right.

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Speaker 1: It's her third season, is it?

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Speaker 2: What was there? What was the other one shed? Oh,

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that's right, she had the other one where she lost

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to Tory in the hall brawl or whatever and then

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she won. Total. Man, this ok, the third we.

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Speaker 3: See, you know, we see these air teams are doing

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the you know, the fair taking turns like a viv

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you know, has not been targeted despite being like only

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on the show once before. So I think Jenny seen

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stuff like that and being like, why is my team

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not giving me that same respect?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I guess I just feel like, you know, she's complaining

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to the people that are doing it. It's just sort

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of is like, I don't know, it just felt like whining.

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It didn't feel like an empowering thing. It felt like

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she's just whining and complaining the thing.

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Speaker 1: Agree with her. If they all came up with this,

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hey we're all going to take turns. And of course

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Josh bitched out the first chance he got.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he made it up the next time.

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Speaker 1: Oh, Jesus Christ made it up and CT so CT

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his team won. He did not win. There's plenty of

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Josh to come. Let's not waste it all up front.

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Speaker 3: But also I thought it was kind of ironic when

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they were talking about Jenny being dispuzzable, because they're like, well,

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we can go kzy because she's the strong, you know

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woman on our team. It's like us, so, what's Jenny?

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Speaker 2: Then, well, it's this is all alliance stuff though, right,

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this doesn't really have anything to do with with ability.

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Speaker 1: This sure you guys really enjoy all this stuff. This

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stuff drives me nuts.

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Speaker 2: I like, I don't mind these Like all right, I'm

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both annoyed and okay with it. I'm about to get

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into the annoyance part, but I'm okay with it because

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this is always what part of the challenge is, right,

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if you're if you're super friends outside of the challenge,

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you're even better. Alliance is inside. We've seen it with

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like Bananas and Lee Roy and Bananas and Tony. You know.

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So I don't have a problem with this vacation alliance.

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I do have a problem with Jenny complaining about it

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as if it's a new thing or not part of

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the programmer. It's unfair that she's left out. Well, it's

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just part of what this show is, you know, well.

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Speaker 1: Not according to what they were going to do this

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whole season. Yeah, don't want to volunteer.

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Speaker 2: See, I thought that's a different I guess the volunteering,

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I see that is a separate issue than the alliances.

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Speaker 3: And you know, this is only Jenny's third season. I'm

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guessing Jenny's not the type of person that when she's

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not on the show, is sitting at home watching, So

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I'm sure she's not familiar with a lot of the

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dynamics and the way people play.

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Speaker 2: Totally. Yes, she just exists outside of it. She strikes

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me as a Hoirassio type that is sort of like, oh,

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it's not fair this game relies on friendships. It's like, well, yeah,

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that's like that's like what the game is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which again is one of the things I fucking

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hate about it. Yeah, we'll get more into that later.

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Don't worry, there's plenty of that to come.

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Speaker 2: It's the whole episode, and the whole episode is that. Yeah,

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there's more of it right now. In fact, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, if you don't like the friendships, you just want

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to see people win off of Mayrit. You should watch

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more NFL with Cindy.

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Speaker 2: Nope, there go willf be schooled. But as we talked

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about more about these outside friendships influencing the we have

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Josh and Tory. They're talking about the Vacation Alliance, which

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now we know it has a cool little handshake to

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it that ends with the V and then an A.

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I was kind of into this thing personally.

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Speaker 1: Oh you mean after last season or last episode where

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they're like, oh, that's not a thing that doesn't exist.

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Speaker 2: Obviously it exists. I just meant the v A. I

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thought that was kind of cool. I don't know into that.

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Speaker 3: I don't I don't know how I feel about because

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I feel like the Vacation Alliance like has been subtly

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around for a few seasons, apparently like you know, Tim

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didn't know about it, but uh, I Wolf.

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Speaker 2: We didn't or no, Carlin didn't know about it.

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Speaker 3: Oh Carlin, that's right. I feel like it's been one

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of the things that's like briefly mentioned but not a lot.

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And I feel like the last two episodes it's been

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so hyper fixated on yeah, and it's like, oh my gosh,

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you're doing too much with it now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, and we get more sort of of the

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hypocrisy that drives me fucking nuts, because we have Tory

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talking to Josh and they're talking about bananas, and Tory says, oh,

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you know him, he's gonna use every connection he has

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and then rolls her eyes like, oh, what a loser.

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right in this very instance that you're judging it so harshly,

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you are doing the thing like you are using your

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I guess that's that's what drives me nuts, is sort

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of the pretending like you're not doing it when everybody

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else it's like, it's like not cool when everybody else

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does it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I wish you could just accept it as part of

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the game and you know, it's not positive or negative.

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It just is. It's just what. It's just what the

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game is.

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Speaker 3: And that's some peel like targets like, oh that's different

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because they're doing it for strategy. We're just doing it

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because we're like genuine friends.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It starts

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turning into like this grade school shit, right, like I'm

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better friends with Ay and then they are, and it's

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like who cares, It's all great.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: So he can rag on Johnny, we're gonna get.

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Speaker 1: Into it, because again it's that stupid bullshit where Johnny's like, look,

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it's a game move. You shouldn't take this stuff seriously.

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Don't take it personally. It's just a game move. Yeah.

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But then like if someone does something to him, he

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throws the biggest hissy fit you've ever seen, and he's

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like oh, and then like, hey, it's just a game move.

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But then hey, let's hold it over Josh that he

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threw me in one time, four seasons ago, and let's

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make this big deal about it. But hey, you know,

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don't take it personally.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and most most players do that stuff.

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It drives me insane and they all do it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But I'm blaming, Like if he knows, like, hey,

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I have this thing on Josh, I can use to

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like blackmail him to keeping me safe. Use it. Don't

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just like no, I'll just I'll just volunteer myself to

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go in.

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Speaker 2: I blame him for sort of embracing the hypocrisy and

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sort of not realizing it. That's that's the problem that

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I have. If he was more self away about it,

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I wouldn't I don't think i'd care if he just

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sort of looked at the camera and he's like, yeah,

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I just I guilt other people when they throw me in,

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but I just do it as a game move. I

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just be like, Okay, well, let's like own it. That's fine.

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I don't like it when you play both sides of

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it like that.

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Speaker 1: I don't like it when he has the puppy dog

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guys and he's like, Josh threw me in, and then

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the next sentence is, Yeah, I'm gonna take this mountain

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of guilt and put it on this person that I

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claim is my friend outside of this show, and I'm

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gonna give him so much guilt and make him feel

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like so much shit that he's gonna like cry himself

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to sleep because he made a game move on me.

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But then like throw a big hissy fit if he

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ever does it again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the hypocrisy, that's what. Yeah. I love it

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when people are shitty people and just own it. I

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don't mind. I don't mind that at all. All right,

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we get a bunch of conversations that ultimately don't matter.

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Do you guys remember Avery's Yeah?

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Speaker 1: No, because I did see someone in another challenge group

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posted a missing poster of Avery, and I was like,

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oh shit, that's right. She is still on the show

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and she was nowhere in this episode.

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Speaker 2: Nowhere, yes, uh shout out her cleavage or something during

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this scene, and that was about it. Corey and Nehemiah

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are talking. Corey is really angry at John A because

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she said she was going to volunteer and then she

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didn't volunteer, but then she got thrown in anyway, and

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so now she looks super shitty and he is tied

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to her as a target, so he's sort of extra

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mat at John A. And well, for you, you're you're agreeing,

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so you think this anger is justified.

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Speaker 1: It's the same, uh, same thing I was saying about

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with Jenny. People are saying they're going to volunteer. We're

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all going to take turns. Yeah, we're all going to volunteer,

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and then people don't want to do it. Well, you

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you shouldn't have set it up front.

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Speaker 3: I think Corey is ever reacting here because the other

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eras have no reason people to be mad at john

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Ay Like she's not on their team. She doesn't impact them.

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So one of people that should be mad are her era,

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and if her ERA wins, then she's safe. There's nothing

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in her inquired you have to worry.

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Speaker 1: About, sure, But then if they don't, people have to

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come up with excuses because Josh is gonna be a

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whiny bitch and be like I threw Johnny ud what

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and I don't want to do it again, And he's

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going to come up with an excuse of why to

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throw them in, and Johnny not volunteering, and they I'm

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surprised that they don't do this spoiler, but he's going

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to use anything, anything that sticks out, that makes a

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big scene, has an excuse of why to throw them in.

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Speaker 3: I'm glad after throwing Johnny in the first time, Josh

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has learned from his transgressions and became a better person.

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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, well for you're right, Like at this point,

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they're looking for any reason to throw in anybody because

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they're not not one to make friends or make enemies,

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so that's an easy one.

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Speaker 2: I'm just sort of Johnny, you're a liar, so you're

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going in.

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Speaker 1: So I say Corey is justified in his anger for it.

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He doesn't, like I mean about he doesn't. He's not

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Jordan as we see later where he's like screaming at people.

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He's more just sitting by himself, just like fuck, Like

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why why did she have to do this on the

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week that we're tied together?

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Speaker 3: But do you guys really think that changed anything? Because, like, obviously,

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so maybe this doesn't imply because Josh did flip on it.

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I think whether she volunteered or not, if ear one

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or two to one, three and four is going in,

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if er three or four wins one and two is

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going in most most times, obviously this time is different.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I think that's true. I don't think it ended

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up ultimately influenced anything, but I Corey looked at that

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noise that I hadn't. And in fact, I think the

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last episode or two has put a lot of emphasis

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on the the tying of the targets together that I

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hadn't considered really, and this episode especially kind of talked about,

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you know, the pairings of the targets, like Laurel is

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sort of safe because Bananas is safe. So anyway, I

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just thought that was an interesting sort of a side. Yeah, Jenny, Bananas.

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This is when they're sort of talking by the pool

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there or whatever. They're both targets. They're trying to sort

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of work together. You can tell Johnny trusts or Jenny

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trusts Johnny. And I do remember them having like a

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weirdly close relationship on like total madness. Remember she would

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like massages, belly or some shit like, didn't they do

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some weird they like that had some weird something or other.

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Speaker 1: It's weird. It's almost like he used the relationship with

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her or get ahead or something. Your eyes. But it

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wasn't any sort of like you know, he was just

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using the relationship. It wasn't anything serious.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and isn't she using her relationship with him

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to get ahead?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Oh rude, Jenny shouldn't be doing that.

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Speaker 3: Is this a Devin joke?

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Speaker 1: It will be when we get to that point.

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Speaker 3: I think there's a different situations drastically.

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Speaker 2: Well, this is where they're talking and Bananas says that, uh,

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Michelle really likes Devin. Devin doesn't like Michelle so much

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that Devin is just using Michelle as upon the game

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because Michelle kind of does what does it does? What

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he says, and that's kind of it, I kind of.

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We don't see Jenny respond. We don't see much else,

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but we hear the words out of his mouth. He

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absolutely said this. Yeah, we heard it. Sure, yep uh.

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All right, anything to say about that, guys before we

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move on to the challenge.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say about it later.

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Speaker 2: All right, we're not there yet, Zach, warm up to Johnny.

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All Right, this challenge is, yeah, cloud catchers. There's huge

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helium balloons there on these poles. The players have to

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run out, collect the balloons, pull them through like a

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spiky pergola, and like a big ditch. Try to get

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the balloon back without popping it. Tie it to a

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puzzle thing. When you get all your balloons tied to

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the puzzle thing, the puzzle thing raises. Whoever saws the

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puzzle first and also has the most balloons wins. Now,

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this does come back later, ultimately, right, The only thing

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that matters is the number of balloons. You can go

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as slow as you want. If you have one more

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balloon than the fastest team, you still.

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Speaker 3: Win, assuming you don't tie.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the time only matters if there's a tie of

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balloon numbers. Yes, right, Okay, I feel like that does

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matter a lot because Jordan is out there fucking running

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like a batshit inst maniac. But it doesn't matter because

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you really just need to get it safe. Why are

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they running at all? Why are they walking?

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Speaker 3: And I could see running and from where like the

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spikes are, Because the time does matter in case of

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a tie. Yeah, once you get to like where you

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have to go under the bridge thing and definitely slow down,

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go as slow as you need to take your time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's just Jordan. Jordan, he wants the

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most balloons and he wants the best time. Yeah, literally,

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probably what it comes out there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. The other thing, I guess I'm rewinding a little

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bit in the sort of pre confessionals, you know, where

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they're sort of all on site and they're all talking

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as a team. There's a super tense confessional between the

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whole team, but car and Laurel, especially in this tense

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moment where Carra says, yeah, I thought about throwing the

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challenge because then Laurel could would be sent into elimination

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and she deserves it. But I'm a better person than her. Yeah,

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I love that, she said it right to Laurel's face,

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and Laurel had a weird thing, like she spoke to

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herself in a weird moment. It was a very awkward scene.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I thought she's talking bananas.

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Speaker 2: Whatever she whispered to whoever she said it to. That

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was weird. It was a weird moment. Yeah, weird, right,

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it was weird.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought she was reassuring Bananas, so.

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Speaker 2: Well, it was.

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Speaker 3: I wish she wasn't the right person. I wish you

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just sat right down at the beginning of the challenge.

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Speaker 2: Same too, totally, we just saw Laurel do it last

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episode like this would have This is a totally serves

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your serves you fucking right moment. And sorry, Bananas, you're

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tied to her. Sorry dude, that sucks, but like, should

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have done it, totally should have done it.

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Speaker 3: But I had faith Bananas could win elimination, so you

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you would have been.

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Speaker 2: Everybody is pro chru SIT's out.

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Speaker 3: I mean in terms of wanting banansco far, no, But

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in terms of good TV, good drama, yes, that's all into.

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Speaker 2: That and payback, payback. Laurel deserves this, uh and yes.

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Later on talks about how Logan got a got a

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big break this episode, and it's like, well, you you

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you participated in that. You contributed to that break Kara.

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Speaker 1: But I feel like she's kind of she's not as

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crazy about it, but I feel like she's like Jordan.

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She wants to compete, Yeah, and just tanking an elimination

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or a challenge on purpose is just not something she does. Yeah,

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even when it's trust me I she was talking about

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at the beginning of the episode. I'm like, yes, do it,

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please do it.

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Speaker 3: I texted you guys yesterday I said part of my

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fantasy lineup I did this week was because I assumed

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she was sitting out because we can't saw it in

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the trailer last week for this week's episode, so I

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was like, oh, I think I think Jen two is

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like losing Ara two. So I was like, I went

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heavy on three and four because of that.

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Speaker 2: I forgot to play the Fantasy League this week. Crushed, crushed,

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all right. So I didn't take many notes during this

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challenge guys. I'll be honest with him.

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Speaker 1: The only thing that is really important is Derek fucked

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his leg up.

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Speaker 2: Jump And how weird was it that he kept going

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like couldn't they have just sat him out of the

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running rotation and he could have done the puzzlers, Like

467
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why did he have to keep going out there?

468
00:23:19,279 --> 00:23:23,839
Speaker 1: I wonder if everybody had to go. I wonder the

469
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,440
rules or something.

470
00:23:26,519 --> 00:23:29,559
Speaker 3: That could be also thought. I mean, I wonder if

471
00:23:29,559 --> 00:23:32,000
he was exaggerating how bad it was. Because the fact

472
00:23:32,039 --> 00:23:34,240
that we didn't get any type of follow up after

473
00:23:34,279 --> 00:23:37,200
the or after a challenge, it's like, well, he just

474
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,720
stayed and they never mentioned again, so he must have

475
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:40,200
been fine.

476
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:44,400
Speaker 1: I had heard something. Somebody posted something about it. Apparently

477
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:49,160
he like half towards a CL or something and elected

478
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,440
elected not to go home and ended up getting surgery

479
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,880
for it, like after the season was done, okay, because

480
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,759
they were wondering why there was no follow up, and

481
00:23:58,799 --> 00:24:03,920
people are wondering if he was given a choice to

482
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:09,519
continue even though it was like an ECL tear, So

483
00:24:09,559 --> 00:24:13,000
they were wondering if that's like, Wow, we've just qualified

484
00:24:13,039 --> 00:24:16,400
people for maybe stuff that doesn't seem as serious as

485
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,400
tearing your a CL. So maybe we're just not going

486
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,480
to show it so that we don't or maybe it'll

487
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,359
be something like they'll start talking about in the next episode.

488
00:24:25,599 --> 00:24:27,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see how it plays.

489
00:24:27,759 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 1: Out.

490
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 2: If he ends up going home because of this injury,

491
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,359
in some capacity, I'll be upset that he stayed in

492
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,880
the in this round, like he should have let Brad

493
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,680
have another go, right, Like yeah, like just as a

494
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,599
as a friendship thing, you know.

495
00:24:42,599 --> 00:24:45,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, if he goes into the next elimination just

496
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:49,119
gets out classed, it would be a bummer.

497
00:24:49,599 --> 00:24:51,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be a bummer. And but it's and

498
00:24:51,599 --> 00:24:53,400
I you know, I have some respect for Derek. I

499
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:54,920
don't think I like him anymore, and I'm okay not

500
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,160
seeing him on the show ever again.

501
00:24:58,200 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 1: But that would too many times a person.

502
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 2: Yes, totally, there's something just super annoying about him now.

503
00:25:03,279 --> 00:25:06,039
I just can't, like, I can't deal with him now.

504
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,240
But yeah, I feel like that's selfish if you if

505
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,359
you know you have like this serious injury that's gonna

506
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,920
incapacitate you, stop you from winning the game. Uh, and

507
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,079
your buddy is up for elimination, and maybe you could

508
00:25:18,079 --> 00:25:21,480
save him by like I would, I he should go home.

509
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:27,279
Speaker 3: In my opinion, I think my only complaint about that

510
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:31,599
is I think I would still like if they were

511
00:25:31,599 --> 00:25:33,839
both on my team. I think I would still trust

512
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,079
Derek to do better for us with half an a

513
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:40,440
cl then I would modern day Brad completely.

514
00:25:40,079 --> 00:25:45,759
Speaker 5: Ouch ouch ouch ouch, but not unwarranted. Did you just

515
00:25:45,839 --> 00:25:49,039
say that about my boy, Brad? Did you just say

516
00:25:49,079 --> 00:25:50,240
that right to my face?

517
00:25:50,319 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 3: Kind of I'm gonna where you are with Derek. I

518
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,079
if we never see Brad on our season again, I

519
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:55,799
feel okay with that.

520
00:25:56,559 --> 00:25:57,519
Speaker 2: Love Brad.

521
00:25:58,039 --> 00:26:00,359
Speaker 3: I feel like he's kind of got to have where

522
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:04,440
he's He's just cannon fodder for better competitors to send

523
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:05,480
home now on seasons.

524
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,319
Speaker 2: Oh, how dare you take it back?

525
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:07,559
Speaker 3: Sack?

526
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 2: Take it back? Love bread? I love bread, Give me

527
00:26:14,519 --> 00:26:18,240
bread every season. I don't have any more notes from

528
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,799
this this thing, guys, you anything else happened, nothing.

529
00:26:21,599 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 3: Matters how quick or how easily. Some of those balloons popped.

530
00:26:28,039 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes a win. I mean clearly nothing happened. They

531
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,720
were just walking and it just pops. Like there's some

532
00:26:34,759 --> 00:26:36,839
amount of this that sort of is like that fucking sucks,

533
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:38,519
Like that's not a fair thing, you know.

534
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,039
Speaker 3: Like you could do everything right and still lose.

535
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,839
Speaker 1: Yeah. Some people said balloons were popping like when they're

536
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,960
still attached to the carabineers and stuff.

537
00:26:46,319 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jesus, sometimes popping after they'd been clipped onto the sign.

538
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,720
You know. It's just like they're clearly not well constructed balloons.

539
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,279
Uh we yeah, air four winds. So Jenny and Josh

540
00:26:59,279 --> 00:27:01,759
they're the safe one. They're going to make the decision tonight.

541
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,359
Rachel and Brad they're going right and they lose. Although

542
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,680
how by how much do you guys have any Zach?

543
00:27:08,759 --> 00:27:10,640
Did you did you read any of the behind the scenes?

544
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 3: I did not know.

545
00:27:12,839 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 2: Okay, it sure looked like it was edited together to

546
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,319
make it look close, but I don't think that it was.

547
00:27:17,559 --> 00:27:21,039
Speaker 3: Probably I just assumed, yeah, that era one was way

548
00:27:21,079 --> 00:27:22,000
behind everyone else.

549
00:27:22,519 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like the biggest part was trying to

550
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:30,400
figure out the riddle. Yeah, but like some parts like

551
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,440
seem like they were close enough that they could hear

552
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,559
each other. Other parts it seems like, no, they're so

553
00:27:35,599 --> 00:27:36,759
far away they don't even know.

554
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 2: So I don't know this one was particularly confusingly edited.

555
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,720
I think we need back, We need times. We've said

556
00:27:44,759 --> 00:27:46,559
that for the last ten years we need times back

557
00:27:46,599 --> 00:27:49,960
on this show, all right, So for those of you

558
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,240
that have lost track at home, like me, that means

559
00:27:53,279 --> 00:27:55,079
we have Jenny and Josh they need to decide between

560
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,920
Laurel and Bananas or Johnny and Corey going against Rachel

561
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:04,319
and Brad. So that's what's happening here. We see Rachel

562
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,240
and Brad talking and Rachel says it's better to lose

563
00:28:08,279 --> 00:28:10,359
and go in that way rather than plead your case

564
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,000
and be thrown in. That's just for her way of

565
00:28:14,039 --> 00:28:16,720
hyping them up. I guess for this elimination, I don't

566
00:28:16,759 --> 00:28:18,599
think it matters. Do you guys think it matters? No,

567
00:28:19,839 --> 00:28:20,119
I don't know.

568
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 3: I do think there's something to the fact of, like

569
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,160
if you know, when you have more time to mentally

570
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,279
prepare than just finding out like later. I do think

571
00:28:30,279 --> 00:28:32,799
there is a slight mental vantage. I don't know if

572
00:28:32,799 --> 00:28:33,640
it's huge, but.

573
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's just one of those things they

574
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,160
say to make themselves feel a little better about the

575
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,559
position they're in, which is also fine, you know, No,

576
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:46,960
it's no problem with that. And Brad's a little more realistic.

577
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,119
He just says if they lose again, he's just ready

578
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:53,720
to go home. He's just like, yep, he's just fucking done.

579
00:28:53,759 --> 00:28:56,400
He's pissed. Especially he's coming right off as All Stars four,

580
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,920
which is also a notoriously awful season for this guy,

581
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,160
So I think he's just sort at the end of

582
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,799
his rope with this fucking game. Yeah. Uh, and I

583
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,000
loved this part knowing how it ultimately works out. We

584
00:29:08,039 --> 00:29:14,359
see Josh uh talking to Era four. He says, guys,

585
00:29:14,359 --> 00:29:16,599
it's really important that this is this team decision. I

586
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,359
don't want to make this decision. It's important that we

587
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:19,880
make this as a team together.

588
00:29:20,119 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: Shouldn't just be me Jenny. We should all decide together

589
00:29:24,119 --> 00:29:28,200
and so together hilarious because that's not what happened.

590
00:29:28,599 --> 00:29:31,519
Speaker 2: No, I love it. So together they all decide obviously,

591
00:29:31,519 --> 00:29:35,559
it's like it's bananas and Laurel right, like it has

592
00:29:35,599 --> 00:29:40,519
to be the whole team says it, and then, uh,

593
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,119
that's that's kind of all we know.

594
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,119
Speaker 1: I think it's funny just because even like Kylond who

595
00:29:46,119 --> 00:29:48,240
we saw at the end of last episode, in the

596
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,920
beginning of this episode, it's on Laurel side, this whole

597
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,680
Carl Laurel thing, yep, and he's like, no, no, no,

598
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,839
it's just like that that's the only thing that even

599
00:29:58,880 --> 00:29:59,759
remotely makes sense.

600
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 2: Every single person on this team, says Johnny and Laurel

601
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,440
and Josh is there, like, I don't know, this just

602
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,559
makes Josh, look so stupid. I love it, I'm idiot.

603
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:19,079
But with that, we are onto nominations. In this case,

604
00:30:19,119 --> 00:30:21,240
we are really not trying to say Laurel's name this

605
00:30:21,559 --> 00:30:26,160
this round. I respected this. So as they sit down,

606
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,599
Rachel and Brad just kind of say, hey, we're not

607
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,839
saying a name. We're not gonna play that game. You

608
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,400
guys decide, you guys fight it out. We're gonna we're

609
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,240
gonna go with whoever you guys go with. Is this

610
00:30:38,279 --> 00:30:39,039
a smart call here?

611
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,319
Speaker 1: Does it get any blood on your hands? It's whoever's

612
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,319
in charge, it's their their problem now.

613
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, And ultimately they want, uh, who are they want?

614
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,440
They don't want Bananas and Laura, right, they would rather

615
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:59,160
have Corey and Johnny probably, Yeah, I wonder if that.

616
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:00,319
I mean, they must have known that that's where it

617
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:01,920
was going. Otherwise I think they would have said that.

618
00:31:03,839 --> 00:31:05,920
Speaker 1: Because I think there's been other teams that have had

619
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,759
the strategy. They're just like, we're not going to say name.

620
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,400
Let them say it, yeah, which I think is a

621
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:10,920
better way to go.

622
00:31:12,039 --> 00:31:14,279
Speaker 3: I think unless there's a team that you know, like,

623
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,240
you feel confident you are much better at than them,

624
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,880
and you feel like you have sway with the people voting,

625
00:31:21,319 --> 00:31:23,680
then yeah, call your shot.

626
00:31:24,079 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 2: So you think they didn't So you think they didn't

627
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,799
have sway or they didn't feel they had sway.

628
00:31:28,759 --> 00:31:31,519
Speaker 3: I think they thought that they didn't have an easy

629
00:31:31,559 --> 00:31:34,400
ride either way. So I think between that and also

630
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,240
probably yeah, like I don't think Era one, you know, like,

631
00:31:38,359 --> 00:31:39,880
I don't think Aaron three and four are gonna be

632
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,720
that concerned what Era one wants. They're gonna do it's

633
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:42,279
best for them.

634
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 2: Mhm.

635
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: Since the Era three and four are working together right supposed.

636
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, they say, yeah, though Johnny will not commit to

637
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:58,799
them working together. But yeah, so yeah, so Rachel and

638
00:31:58,839 --> 00:32:00,960
Brad they're just not playing the game. But the other

639
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,960
fore Man, they are into this game. They're fighting harder

640
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,599
than I think we've seen many people fight in this

641
00:32:06,079 --> 00:32:09,400
nomination room. Corey's pulling out all the stops. Not normally

642
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,640
a political guy, but Corey's playing the politics game, trying

643
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,279
to come up with all these reasons to throw them in.

644
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:15,759
Speaker 1: Uh.

645
00:32:17,839 --> 00:32:20,039
Speaker 2: John A basically says like, well, I'll help you if

646
00:32:20,079 --> 00:32:21,920
I can help you, I don't know. John A gave

647
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,400
a real shitty fucking thing.

648
00:32:24,079 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: She's terrible. She shouldn't have talked all.

649
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Laurel says basically the same, but says like, I'm

650
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,680
gonna win more often than john Ay, so I'll be

651
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,319
able to have you more. This is Banana's maybe.

652
00:32:34,119 --> 00:32:35,759
Speaker 1: The only good point that came from either.

653
00:32:35,799 --> 00:32:40,799
Speaker 2: While Yeah, Bananas brings up the Josh thing, Corey brings

654
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,440
up how you throw in a big team right now,

655
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,599
make your move blah blah blah blah blah. Who's who's

656
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,680
right in all these debates? Who's who's Corey's got the

657
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:48,240
better ideas?

658
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,359
Speaker 1: You throw into bigger team against what is what looks

659
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:57,839
like a bigger team. Yeah, never mind, Brad, But I

660
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,240
mean Rachel. Like you want to see Rachel Laura go

661
00:33:00,319 --> 00:33:01,000
up against each other.

662
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,079
Speaker 2: I would love to see Rachel and Laurel. This game

663
00:33:03,119 --> 00:33:06,240
would have been even this game is a no contact game.

664
00:33:06,279 --> 00:33:08,920
This would have been fun with them, Like they're just

665
00:33:09,119 --> 00:33:11,640
like Laurel's big who had been playing defense. It would

666
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:12,119
have been fun.

667
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,559
Speaker 3: I think they I think they made the right choice

668
00:33:15,599 --> 00:33:16,319
protecting Laurel.

669
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 2: Oh, of course you do, Why Zach?

670
00:33:20,039 --> 00:33:20,279
Speaker 1: Why?

671
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 2: Why?

672
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:27,319
Speaker 3: Because because I think sending in Johnny and Laurel would

673
00:33:27,359 --> 00:33:31,279
be what's best for their team as a whole. I

674
00:33:31,319 --> 00:33:34,599
think sending in bananas or protecting men as Laura might

675
00:33:34,599 --> 00:33:36,720
be worse for their team as a whole, but I

676
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,640
think for Jenny and Josh's individuals they will be better protected.

677
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,079
They will not be the targets of Johnny of RA

678
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:45,680
two as much as the other people will be.

679
00:33:47,119 --> 00:33:50,599
Speaker 1: I just don't agree they all agreed they were making

680
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:55,880
a team decision. People snaking out of what they say

681
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:56,799
they're gonna do.

682
00:33:57,279 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you would have no problem with this if if

683
00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:02,920
Josh went into that room and said like, hey, here's

684
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,359
the deal, me and Jenny are gonna do it's best

685
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,000
for us and me. We don't want to hear from

686
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:06,400
you guys.

687
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: If they would have said that up front, I would

688
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,679
have been like, well, he's still a fucking idiot. But

689
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,000
at least like they were honest, don't play this fucking

690
00:34:14,119 --> 00:34:18,639
fake ass game. They oh, we're taking the team's gonna decide,

691
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:23,360
not just us, We're we're lowering, you know, we're all

692
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,239
in this together. Yeah. And then like as soon as

693
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,039
he tells, everybody will to save what we're gonna do,

694
00:34:28,039 --> 00:34:30,920
and everybody's like, what the fuck Josh, and he just

695
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,039
has to sit there with that stupid look on his

696
00:34:33,079 --> 00:34:36,400
face to be like I threw him in once four

697
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:42,119
seasons ago and I just can't do it. God, what

698
00:34:42,199 --> 00:34:43,239
a fucking moron.

699
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,719
Speaker 2: I think the only reason that Bananas and Laura were

700
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:51,840
saved is because of Banana's previous relationships. There's nothing, there's

701
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,159
no logical reason. It's that Jenny sort of likes him,

702
00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:56,159
and Jenny feels alone otherwise.

703
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: And it sucks his dick all the time.

704
00:34:58,119 --> 00:35:02,079
Speaker 2: Yep, that's exactly it. So that's I would say, it's

705
00:35:02,079 --> 00:35:05,119
not what comes next, Zach. I think it's what came

706
00:35:05,199 --> 00:35:06,840
previous is what saved them here.

707
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,639
Speaker 3: Well, no, I agree, that's what's saved them. But I

708
00:35:09,639 --> 00:35:12,400
think it's a smart move because you know, I think

709
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,719
if if there's a situation in the future where Corey

710
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:20,840
has the power to save Josh or THEO, I don't know,

711
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,440
that's one hundred percent he's saving Josh. I think Bananas

712
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,639
would one hundred percent save Josh over THEO. So, like,

713
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:27,280
does it hurt?

714
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:30,079
Speaker 2: That's for selfish But that's for a selfish reason.

715
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, That's what I'm saying is I think they made

716
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,239
the selfish move that doesn't benefit their team but benefits

717
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,239
Jenny and Josh's individual players. You know, it's kind of

718
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,119
like on Survivor when you like set your lions up

719
00:35:41,199 --> 00:35:43,320
to go down, but you're like, I'll be the survivor

720
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:45,440
when all the rest of my tribe's gone, and then

721
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,119
I'll infiltrate into the rest of the group.

722
00:35:47,639 --> 00:35:49,599
Speaker 2: Right. I think I have the same problem with it

723
00:35:49,639 --> 00:35:53,360
that wolf he has is sort of that Josh wants

724
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,719
it both ways. He wanted it. The thing is, he

725
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,159
went to his team because he wanted to absolve himself

726
00:35:58,159 --> 00:36:00,800
with the responsibility of picking somebody. Wanted to be able

727
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,119
to say, oh, sorry, it was their call. I didn't

728
00:36:03,119 --> 00:36:06,039
make the call. Uh, but it didn't work out the

729
00:36:06,079 --> 00:36:07,519
way he thought. So now he just looks like a

730
00:36:07,559 --> 00:36:08,639
fucking asshole to his team.

731
00:36:09,679 --> 00:36:13,079
Speaker 3: Also was singing when that went down with the group discussion.

732
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,800
Was Jenny like on board with that? Because I don't

733
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,000
see Jenny like, you know, she has pissed out her

734
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,079
team and knows she's on the out. She really gonna

735
00:36:20,079 --> 00:36:22,639
want to do what her team tells her to do.

736
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:28,039
Speaker 2: Probably not, but Jenny's then don't say it, and also

737
00:36:28,159 --> 00:36:30,199
just don't say it. Then if you're not gonna do

738
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,639
it like fucking nobody's making. Nobody brought it to him,

739
00:36:33,679 --> 00:36:35,119
you know what I mean, Like he went to them

740
00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:38,480
and said it, like, just don't say it then.

741
00:36:39,039 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 3: So I guess my point is, Yeah, I could see

742
00:36:41,079 --> 00:36:43,119
Josh going to the team saying, hey, Jenny and I

743
00:36:43,199 --> 00:36:45,760
want to decide this as a team, when Jenny's like,

744
00:36:46,119 --> 00:36:47,880
I never agreed to that. I never said that. Like

745
00:36:48,199 --> 00:36:50,239
this is Josh just speaking on my behalf.

746
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:57,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess we don't know that, but yeah, fuck him.

747
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:57,679
Speaker 1: Yep.

748
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 2: Uh well, hey guys, we're going to the clubs.

749
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: This is where the other bullshit starts.

750
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,679
Speaker 2: Yep. It starts off pleasant enough, Derek and Brad talking, Yeah,

751
00:37:11,119 --> 00:37:15,960
like this old school, I like this, this is fun. Sure, Yeah,

752
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:16,920
well we don't care.

753
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:18,079
Speaker 1: I don't care.

754
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,559
Speaker 2: I don't like. I don't like Derek. I don't like

755
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,519
I don't I'll just say it. I don't like Derek.

756
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,039
And so he's trying to be inspirational and stuff. I

757
00:37:27,119 --> 00:37:28,840
get this, and he's a try hard guy. Like when

758
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,760
the cameras are on, he's sort of performing and it's

759
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,079
it sort of comes off as awkward and weird. And

760
00:37:34,119 --> 00:37:36,400
he talks to Brad, He's like all bottle it up

761
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,800
and release it and all the stupid shit. People say,

762
00:37:42,679 --> 00:37:46,880
that's enough of that. Uh. Josh and Corey are talking,

763
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,599
which I kind of like, Uh, Josh is trying to

764
00:37:49,679 --> 00:37:53,559
justify his decision. Corey seems to accept it, but he's also, uh,

765
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:54,559
sort of pissed.

766
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,119
Speaker 1: I like it because they because they did go tell

767
00:37:59,159 --> 00:38:02,480
them too, And I like that. Corey is just like, Okay,

768
00:38:02,559 --> 00:38:05,679
well that means I'm gonna win. And when I come back,

769
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,239
I got two more targets I'm going after. Yeah, he

770
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,159
just straights up. Tell him like, all right, if that's

771
00:38:10,199 --> 00:38:12,360
the way you want to go, I'm gonna fucking target you. Yeah.

772
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,280
And I'm not saying this is like a giant threat

773
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,039
from Corey, but you've pissed off another person you were

774
00:38:18,039 --> 00:38:19,199
supposedly friends with.

775
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a threat. And I mean we've seen Josh

776
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,719
do this a lot, and he's never gonna learn because like,

777
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:24,639
why would he at this point?

778
00:38:24,639 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: I think, I don't know if it's this point. At

779
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:30,199
some point CAC brings up. Josh has so many IOUs

780
00:38:30,679 --> 00:38:33,159
he can never catch up, and that's gonna start biting

781
00:38:33,199 --> 00:38:35,760
him in the ass. As we see it is here.

782
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,039
Speaker 2: Yes, he's got two people that are super close to

783
00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:39,559
him that he's sort of has burned in the past

784
00:38:39,559 --> 00:38:42,400
since he's got to pick one. Uh and well, if

785
00:38:42,599 --> 00:38:44,719
I liked his quote so much, I typed it verbat him.

786
00:38:45,079 --> 00:38:48,159
He says, uh word for what he says, I'm going

787
00:38:48,159 --> 00:38:51,320
in and I'm winning. And then what uh to Josh?

788
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,719
So just sort of like, what's your game now? Like

789
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,559
like you've you've burned me and I've sent your guy home.

790
00:38:57,679 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 3: You know, I say, I'd say nothing like that's not

791
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:06,880
a huge threat. So do you guys, what do you

792
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,679
think Corey is now gonna next ep Shore. We can

793
00:39:08,679 --> 00:39:11,480
see Krey going to like Ara To and air One

794
00:39:11,559 --> 00:39:13,719
being like, screw those guys, I'm done with him, Like

795
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,199
I'm loyal to you guys. Have no He's gonna stick

796
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,039
with the group. Josh is part of the Vacation Alliance.

797
00:39:19,519 --> 00:39:21,599
He's gonna kind of be forced into loyalty. So yeah,

798
00:39:21,639 --> 00:39:23,599
he could be mad at Josh, he's still gonna do

799
00:39:23,639 --> 00:39:25,400
what the Vacation Alliance tells him to do.

800
00:39:26,519 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 2: I mean, we'll see, we'll see. And I think we

801
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,519
also see that these decisions do do haunt people for seasons,

802
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,159
and I think we're gonna I think we're gonna see

803
00:39:36,159 --> 00:39:38,280
this come back. I really do still know what.

804
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:39,760
Speaker 1: The Karma score is all about.

805
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the other thing. Yeah, absolutely, you know.

806
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 3: But without knowing all this stuff in the future. If

807
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,880
I had to know Corey had my back for the

808
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,199
next five years or Johnny did, I'd rather have Johnny

809
00:39:49,199 --> 00:39:49,760
having my back.

810
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't listen. I don't think Josh made the

811
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,639
wrong decision. I think Josh probably did make the right decision.

812
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,440
But it's it's everything else that's sort of surrounding it,

813
00:39:59,519 --> 00:40:01,559
and like how he justified it, how he sort of

814
00:40:01,559 --> 00:40:03,719
turned his team into this weird like it just sort

815
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,480
of causes the other weird divisions and stuff.

816
00:40:06,199 --> 00:40:08,760
Speaker 3: No, I agree that, Yeah, it's sort of.

817
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 2: It's it's these mistakes that add up to these IOUs

818
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,599
that sort of never end up coming back. It's like

819
00:40:13,679 --> 00:40:15,519
it's all this ship where you say the wrong thing,

820
00:40:15,559 --> 00:40:17,840
but then you're pressured into this other thing, and you know,

821
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:19,840
this is this is Josh's game. He does it every

822
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:21,400
fucking episode.

823
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: And and this is the ship that I fucking can't stand.

824
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:29,639
Is the manipulation by Johnny Bananas over this whole stupid

825
00:40:29,639 --> 00:40:33,599
thing where it's supposed to. On one hand, Johnny's like,

826
00:40:34,039 --> 00:40:36,360
but Josh, we're friends, why did you throw me in?

827
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,760
Oh my god? Our friendship is now teetering on an edge.

828
00:40:40,559 --> 00:40:42,840
But then like at the end, he wants to manipulate

829
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:46,719
everybody and be like, remember, Josh, remember when you threw

830
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,159
me in? And I'm gonna make you feel so guilty

831
00:40:49,199 --> 00:40:53,119
about it, even though like supposedly our friendship means the

832
00:40:53,159 --> 00:40:55,039
world to me. But I'm gonna make you feel like

833
00:40:55,159 --> 00:40:58,320
shit about this decision for the rest of your life.

834
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,679
Where's john That's just a quivering lip, and he's like,

835
00:41:01,679 --> 00:41:04,280
do you know how I felt about this decision for

836
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,039
the four seasons?

837
00:41:08,159 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 3: God, you guys can complain about that the day. I

838
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:16,199
think if Johnny just sat there and stayed quiet, he

839
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,360
went in this episode, he did what he needed to

840
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:19,440
do to avoid elimination.

841
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I listen. I don't blame bananas either. I just

842
00:41:23,559 --> 00:41:26,280
don't like the hypocrisy of it. I just that's the part.

843
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,719
It's it's talking with both sides and saying one thing

844
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,519
and doing the other. Like, that's the part I don't mind.

845
00:41:32,559 --> 00:41:34,280
I don't, I don't. I never mind it when people

846
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,440
are sort of shitty humans on the challenge and do

847
00:41:37,519 --> 00:41:39,199
selfish things. That's fine, just I.

848
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 1: Just don't like when he says out loud in some episode, Hey,

849
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,559
you know it's a game move, can't take it personally.

850
00:41:46,639 --> 00:41:49,079
Don't take it personally. And then when people do game

851
00:41:49,119 --> 00:41:51,880
moves on him, it is the most personal thing in

852
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,840
the entire world. Yeah, and he does things like well,

853
00:41:55,159 --> 00:41:58,639
I'm gonna burn He's burned that bridge. I'm never never

854
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:03,280
gonna forgive him. And it's like, okay, choose one. If

855
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:07,360
he were to choose one way or the other, like fine,

856
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,280
at least we know where you stand, but like doing

857
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,039
both that bullshit is what drives me nuts.

858
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:13,519
Speaker 2: Yep.

859
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,679
Speaker 3: I always said though, I think Johnny is one of

860
00:42:16,679 --> 00:42:20,480
the most loyal players in the show's history. If you

861
00:42:20,519 --> 00:42:22,480
are his friend, he's the type of guy and we've

862
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,639
seen this in the past. Who you know who used

863
00:42:24,639 --> 00:42:27,079
to be his biggest threats Kenny. He gladly took Kenny

864
00:42:27,119 --> 00:42:29,519
of the end of Games. Evan. He gladly took Evan

865
00:42:29,559 --> 00:42:32,159
because those are his buddies, like Sarah. He would like

866
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,480
take the best to the end and lose to them.

867
00:42:34,559 --> 00:42:36,880
So if he rides with Leroy, if he rides with you,

868
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,079
he is loyal if he doesn't ride with you, yeah,

869
00:42:39,079 --> 00:42:40,519
he'll use you and then talk the way.

870
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've talked about that before exactly. Like the seasons

871
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,119
you're talking about were teams seasons, and I think they

872
00:42:47,159 --> 00:42:48,559
I think he'd do it differently this summer.

873
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 3: I mean even like like rival seasons and stuff like,

874
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,840
you know, he was down to take Kenny and West,

875
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,000
you know, to the end, you know, because even though

876
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:02,280
they did. Yeah, he's never like, hey, Kenny's my friend,

877
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:03,800
but he's a huge threat to win, so I need

878
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,000
to come with them. He's like, no, like he's my friend,

879
00:43:06,159 --> 00:43:07,559
I'll take him to the end. Made the best man

880
00:43:07,639 --> 00:43:09,679
win because that's my friend and I'm not going to

881
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:10,599
do him dirty like that.

882
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: Okay, but then he is loyal to his friends. But

883
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:18,360
then the thing is people he thinks of people as

884
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,519
not being his friends if they pull a game move

885
00:43:20,599 --> 00:43:24,599
on him. Yeah, because he takes it super personally when

886
00:43:24,639 --> 00:43:26,039
he tells everybody else not to.

887
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 2: Yes, that's I I agree.

888
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,559
Speaker 1: We'll all right, let's move on.

889
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're back at the house now, this will fee

890
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,320
We're into the all right, Well, Zach, sorry, Zach Winn Sorry,

891
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:41,199
we'll damn it. We're back at the house. Banana's uh,

892
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,679
this is the Michelle and Devin shit, right.

893
00:43:44,519 --> 00:43:47,199
Speaker 1: Bananas pulls Michelle aside, tells her to be careful.

894
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, uh, so here we are though, we're we're

895
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,280
at this conversation. This is where Devin's shirtless on the couch,

896
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,960
yelling at Bananas, who is lying through his teeth and

897
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,000
trying to avoid this conversation.

898
00:43:57,039 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 1: There's something that we didn't talk about earlier, is when

899
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,880
Bananas and I don't know who it was he was

900
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:07,400
talking to somebody? Was it Jenny, I don't even remember

901
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:09,760
where is what do he initially? I think you talked

902
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,599
about a little bit where he initially talked about the

903
00:44:11,599 --> 00:44:15,079
Devin Michelle thing. He full on says word for word,

904
00:44:16,559 --> 00:44:21,960
I have to break this up. So his point is, oh,

905
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,000
even if they're together or not, I need to break

906
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,840
them up. And that is shitty to do to somebody

907
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,519
who you consider a friend like Michelle and who you've

908
00:44:31,519 --> 00:44:35,480
been on so so decent enough terms with Devin lately. Yeah.

909
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 2: Well, and I did like it too, And Zach, I

910
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,039
hope you enjoyed me talking about Johnny Banas For the

911
00:44:41,039 --> 00:44:50,000
next couple of minutes, I really, Devin went straight up

912
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:51,760
to Bananas and was just like, hey, you said this

913
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:57,039
about about me regarding Michelle, like what's up. And Banana's

914
00:44:57,079 --> 00:44:59,119
just like, oh, well, I didn't say that. Those words

915
00:44:59,159 --> 00:45:01,159
didn't come out of my mind. And you could tell

916
00:45:01,199 --> 00:45:03,679
he was sort of like he was being a little truthful,

917
00:45:03,679 --> 00:45:05,960
he was avoiding it just enough that he was he

918
00:45:06,079 --> 00:45:10,000
was being honest but misleading, and then after a minute

919
00:45:10,039 --> 00:45:12,440
he just full on fucking starts lying and he's just like,

920
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,039
I never said that. I never said that, when like

921
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,400
he said it, we heard it is on video. He

922
00:45:18,519 --> 00:45:20,119
fucking said that those words.

923
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 1: And Olivia's right there, She's like, that's exactly how it happened. Yep.

924
00:45:26,119 --> 00:45:29,639
Speaker 2: Uh so yeah, so Zach please defend Bananas here.

925
00:45:30,639 --> 00:45:32,639
Speaker 3: Well, I will agree he was completely lying off his

926
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,159
teeth there, but I do believe that when he originally

927
00:45:36,159 --> 00:45:38,719
went to Michelle, it's just like, hey, like, have your

928
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,760
guard up, that he was being a genuine friend and

929
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,760
like he thought was a friend, you know, like she

930
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,559
wouldn't run and snitch on him, but then she did,

931
00:45:46,639 --> 00:45:48,760
and so then yeah, I think at that point he's like, well, crap,

932
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,400
now I gotta like cover my ass and so I'm

933
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:52,599
gonna like flye through.

934
00:45:52,519 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: My teeth because Devin is pissed at that, and I

935
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:59,119
think rightfully, So if Zach, if you went to some

936
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,639
random whoever I'm dating, which would never happen, but if

937
00:46:01,639 --> 00:46:03,880
you went to them and said, hey, be careful, tim sucks,

938
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,039
I would be pissed at you, and I should be right,

939
00:46:07,119 --> 00:46:08,840
like that's a shitty thing to do to somebody that

940
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:09,719
you consider a friend.

941
00:46:10,559 --> 00:46:12,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, but no, I mean I've been in that situation

942
00:46:12,599 --> 00:46:14,519
with like my Marco Polo group. I mean there's been

943
00:46:14,559 --> 00:46:17,079
times in there that like I know guys that have

944
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,599
like been creepos in the past, and like one of

945
00:46:19,599 --> 00:46:21,480
my female friends will start talking to them. I'm like, hey,

946
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,000
you do you but just know like in the past

947
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,159
he's mad creepyre why they ran and told them like

948
00:46:26,159 --> 00:46:28,559
oh Zac sal jerk creep. It's like, okay, trying to

949
00:46:28,599 --> 00:46:29,639
look out for you and then you just tow me

950
00:46:29,679 --> 00:46:30,719
under the bus, like screw you.

951
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,519
Speaker 2: Then, but you're not friends with the dude, no, you know,

952
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:38,400
like that's the Yeah, Like I wouldn't, like I wouldn't

953
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:39,880
be friends with the dude that was sort of shitty

954
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:41,920
to a woman, Like I would you know, if my

955
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:43,800
friends started dating a woman, I'd be happy for my

956
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,840
friend and the woman because I'm friends with nice people. Yeah,

957
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,320
so it's I would I would feel super shitty. I

958
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,840
would feel pissed off if somebody kind of went to

959
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,880
the person I'm dating and told them something shitty about me,

960
00:46:54,039 --> 00:46:55,360
especially a friend. You know.

961
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,199
Speaker 3: But do we think Bananas and Devon are friends? I

962
00:46:58,199 --> 00:47:00,679
think they've been friendly lately. I don't know if like,

963
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:02,239
I don't know if they're calling each other in the

964
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:03,480
off season to go hang out.

965
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 2: I think they're friendly because they run in similar circles,

966
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,159
Like Banana is a sort of halfway part of that

967
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,719
vacation alliance they talked about it earlier and Devon is,

968
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,000
so there's like some civility there.

969
00:47:15,039 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: And I don't feel like we have seen anything from

970
00:47:18,039 --> 00:47:24,000
Devon on this or past episodes that would suggest he

971
00:47:24,079 --> 00:47:27,360
gets into romantic relationships with people to manipulate them to

972
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,599
vote the way he wants. On the other hand, I

973
00:47:30,679 --> 00:47:33,800
feel like we've seen Johnny in past relationships with a

974
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,679
bunch of new girls that come on the show that

975
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:39,000
he Cozi's up to, and he ends up dragging all

976
00:47:39,039 --> 00:47:41,119
the newbies with him to try and vote his way.

977
00:47:41,599 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 3: M hm.

978
00:47:43,039 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 2: My other hot take for the night. I genuinely think

979
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,679
I think Devon is one of the best human beings

980
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,440
that we've seen on the challenge, which isn't much to say,

981
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,920
Like it's not a super high bar, but we've seen

982
00:47:53,079 --> 00:47:56,239
We've seen Devin like defend Cheyenne against that like insane

983
00:47:56,320 --> 00:48:00,000
racist bullying shit that was happening. We've seen now him

984
00:48:00,159 --> 00:48:02,360
stand up to Michelle and say, like this fucking sucks

985
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,199
that this dude is coming to talk to this girl

986
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,599
I like and about this ship. And then he goes

987
00:48:06,639 --> 00:48:10,199
and confronts him about it. Like Defen's being a stand

988
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,800
up dude often, and I think he needs a little

989
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,800
credit for this, Right, Have we seen him be be

990
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,320
super shitty? We've never seen him cheat on somebody or

991
00:48:19,519 --> 00:48:24,960
be mean to woman or say misogynistic things, right, He's

992
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,679
like that good dude as.

993
00:48:28,199 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 3: Not as far as I can remember on this challenge.

994
00:48:31,039 --> 00:48:33,559
I know they did an exclusively all Are You the

995
00:48:33,599 --> 00:48:37,440
One Challenge version? If you go watch that, he is

996
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:40,880
major prick to like all the women.

997
00:48:41,199 --> 00:48:43,679
Speaker 2: And all the people. I haven't watched that one obviously.

998
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't seen his original All You the one season.

999
00:48:45,559 --> 00:48:47,280
But I mean, but hey, like he do what he

1000
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,599
needed to do. Spoilerlight, he won that all that challenge

1001
00:48:50,599 --> 00:48:52,920
of just are you the one? People? And but no,

1002
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,800
he was definitely a major a hole and screwing people

1003
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,360
over left and right and playing women to like, you know,

1004
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,159
like oh I like you and then popping them aside.

1005
00:49:01,559 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just think there's not even a history for

1006
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,920
Johnny Bananas to point to to be like, look, Devin

1007
00:49:08,039 --> 00:49:10,599
is trying to manipulate you to vote his way, and

1008
00:49:10,639 --> 00:49:12,880
he's trying to get it me. I feel like this

1009
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,920
is the fucking Josh and West situation with fucking Johnny

1010
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,719
and the Josh stuff where he's like, he's after me,

1011
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,280
He's after me, and Devin's like, what are you even

1012
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:23,960
talking about?

1013
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 2: Have you seen my girlfriend? She's just hot, That's the

1014
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:26,760
only thing.

1015
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:27,760
Speaker 3: Now.

1016
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see a fucking war between Devin

1017
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,880
and Johnny and I fully support it.

1018
00:49:34,079 --> 00:49:36,039
Speaker 2: Me too. I love it. Remember when Devin took him

1019
00:49:36,039 --> 00:49:38,119
out in that elimination, Remember that, Zach.

1020
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 1: I hope he does it again, me too. He's even

1021
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:42,760
in my fantasy league. I hope he goes home.

1022
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, fuck that guy. Try.

1023
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:50,559
Speaker 3: We all agree Johnny will destroy him an elimination.

1024
00:49:51,039 --> 00:49:54,119
Speaker 1: But the one time they went against each other that

1025
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:55,239
he didn't, he lost.

1026
00:49:55,760 --> 00:50:01,079
Speaker 3: Yeah right, yeah, stupid. One of the stupid eliminations ever.

1027
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,039
Speaker 1: Because Johnny didn't use his brain properly, because he's not

1028
00:50:04,079 --> 00:50:07,159
smart like Devins Zach did.

1029
00:50:07,679 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 2: Johnny straight up lie, Did that do anything to Did

1030
00:50:10,039 --> 00:50:11,559
that bother you at all? Or is that part of

1031
00:50:11,559 --> 00:50:15,079
the game that he just fucking lied to somebody right

1032
00:50:15,119 --> 00:50:17,039
to his face about something important.

1033
00:50:17,119 --> 00:50:17,920
Speaker 3: That's part of the game.

1034
00:50:19,119 --> 00:50:22,280
Speaker 2: That's a game. That's a game move. Telling somebody a

1035
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:25,320
relationship issue from outside of the game, that's a game move.

1036
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:29,199
Speaker 3: I think I think what he said to Michelle was

1037
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,480
a friendship move. I think once Michelle ran until Devin,

1038
00:50:33,039 --> 00:50:35,280
Johnny's like, you know, I tried to help you on

1039
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,639
a personal level, you turned around and screwed my game,

1040
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,639
So now I got to like backtrack and try to

1041
00:50:39,679 --> 00:50:40,519
like save my game.

1042
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:45,199
Speaker 1: I would accept that answer if previously in the episode

1043
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,119
we didn't see Johnny talking to somebody saying I have

1044
00:50:48,199 --> 00:50:53,119
to break this up exactly. I think from his message

1045
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:57,440
words out of his mouth, I have to break this up.

1046
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,119
Speaker 3: But I don't think that's like a big secret like,

1047
00:51:01,159 --> 00:51:03,519
I think one if he's gonna break up, he's going

1048
00:51:03,559 --> 00:51:06,559
after Devin, not Michelle, and he basically called out Demi's like,

1049
00:51:06,679 --> 00:51:09,280
I know you're coming for me eventually. Devon's like yeah,

1050
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,159
and so obviously Jan's probably, yeah, it's gonna come for

1051
00:51:11,199 --> 00:51:11,719
you eventually.

1052
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,119
Speaker 2: I was just not calling people out, to which the

1053
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:20,360
entire house would Yeah, we're all coming for you. Johnny, Yeah,

1054
00:51:20,639 --> 00:51:24,000
Bananas is a pussy. He's such a pussy. He's such

1055
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,920
a pussy talking to all that shit about Devin mound

1056
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:28,840
his back. And then the second Devin confronts him, he

1057
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:32,119
just lies. By the way he's lying in front of

1058
00:51:32,159 --> 00:51:35,000
the people that he lied to, So he looks like

1059
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,480
a pussy to everybody, because everybody knows the truth. He

1060
00:51:37,599 --> 00:51:39,679
just looks like a pussy. He would have come, he

1061
00:51:39,679 --> 00:51:41,679
would have looked a lot better had he just said like, yeah, Devin,

1062
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:45,119
I said it. I meant it too. He's a pussy.

1063
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:47,320
He's a pussy. This guy's a pussy.

1064
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: What a pussy?

1065
00:51:48,599 --> 00:51:51,039
Speaker 3: Everyone in me he didn't have Olivia. That's one person

1066
00:51:51,119 --> 00:51:52,119
that's not the whole house.

1067
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: Well, and then Michelle have a conversation later, Yeah, he

1068
00:51:56,519 --> 00:51:59,159
tells her let's not how it went, and she's like, yes,

1069
00:51:59,199 --> 00:52:02,440
it is. So now Johnny is gaslighting her, trying to

1070
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,800
tell her that he didn't say ship. That is on.

1071
00:52:06,039 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 2: Micro We saw it twice. We saw it, Zach, What

1072
00:52:10,039 --> 00:52:10,519
a pussy.

1073
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,519
Speaker 3: We also have to factor in the fact that all

1074
00:52:12,519 --> 00:52:14,960
of this arguments started the night after they got back

1075
00:52:15,039 --> 00:52:16,800
on the bar. So do we think all of them.

1076
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 2: Like, what a pussy? Zach? Lord, Zach, your guy's a pussy.

1077
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:31,280
Speaker 3: Well, you know, Johnny is what he eats.

1078
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 1: Well, he pretty much has to what he's working with.

1079
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,760
Speaker 2: All right, And one quick note, we have John Ay,

1080
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,079
she's got that gold ship under her eyes again.

1081
00:52:40,119 --> 00:52:40,679
Speaker 1: What is this?

1082
00:52:40,679 --> 00:52:42,760
Speaker 2: This is a challenge exclusive thing, right, This gold ship

1083
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:43,159
on her.

1084
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:45,679
Speaker 1: Gets the bags out of your eyes.

1085
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:47,119
Speaker 2: Come on, I don't like it. I don't like it.

1086
00:52:47,119 --> 00:52:50,280
It's very uncomfortable, all right with that one of the challenge.

1087
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: Uh no, we're not. We're onto elimination.

1088
00:52:54,320 --> 00:53:00,559
Speaker 2: Oh that's what I meant. This one's called to the point,

1089
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,960
kind of kind of dug this one. I have no many,

1090
00:53:04,079 --> 00:53:06,800
no idea how many balls were they're lined up, But

1091
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,360
there was a bunch of them, yeah, fifty ish maybe,

1092
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,039
and a bunch of spikes. Turns out those balls were heavy,

1093
00:53:13,079 --> 00:53:16,280
like medicine ball esque type of balls, and you're throwing

1094
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:18,719
these balls onto these spikes. You can play defense. This

1095
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,480
is a no touch game. There's no tackles or anything.

1096
00:53:20,519 --> 00:53:22,480
You got to stay behind these lines. Get as many

1097
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,760
balls as you can under as many spikes as you can,

1098
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,320
and that's the challenge.

1099
00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 1: Uh.

1100
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,280
Speaker 2: Rachel throws out ERA one now is all road Rules.

1101
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,000
I didn't put this together, but that's kind of a

1102
00:53:35,039 --> 00:53:41,880
fucking badass, right, So this might be the last big

1103
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:47,320
representation road Rules ever gets Darrell, Rachel, Tina, Derek.

1104
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:53,119
Speaker 1: Darrell bad back, Derek broken leg, Tina not super great,

1105
00:53:53,199 --> 00:53:56,199
and Rachel the one carrying the team on her back

1106
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:56,760
at the moment.

1107
00:53:57,199 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, I gotta tell you, you know, I've birthdays

1108
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,559
in a couple of weeks, and I'm watching Era one.

1109
00:54:02,679 --> 00:54:06,239
I'm feeling my age more and more like dropping out

1110
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,239
and injuries, and they look tired all the time and

1111
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:10,760
they don't want to go party and ship. It's like,

1112
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:12,360
oh fuck, these are my people.

1113
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: So I just I had my version of that earlier today. Yeah,

1114
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,000
it was your sidebar. Me and Jason went and saw

1115
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,679
the new Kevin Smith movie. It's it's not very good,

1116
00:54:24,199 --> 00:54:29,119
and the there's like a character in it who works

1117
00:54:29,119 --> 00:54:32,000
at this movie theater and then she's gonna leave. She's

1118
00:54:32,039 --> 00:54:35,280
like a super side character, not even important. But I

1119
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,159
realized about halfway through the movie that this twenty maybe

1120
00:54:38,199 --> 00:54:42,519
mid twenties person is the little girl from Jersey Girl.

1121
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,159
And I was like, oh, Fox, she's like a full

1122
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:50,559
fledged adult. Ah. My heart started to hurt and my

1123
00:54:50,679 --> 00:54:53,760
hips hurt. These heard it must be raining out. I

1124
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,840
don't know. Yeah, Jesus Christ.

1125
00:54:56,679 --> 00:54:59,559
Speaker 2: Dude, middle ages snuck right up on us. Man, how

1126
00:54:59,559 --> 00:54:59,800
did that?

1127
00:55:00,679 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1128
00:55:02,119 --> 00:55:05,039
Speaker 2: Sorry, go ahead, Uh no, that's it. I have no notes.

1129
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:05,559
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1130
00:55:05,639 --> 00:55:07,440
Speaker 2: These things go kind of how we expected.

1131
00:55:08,639 --> 00:55:10,679
Speaker 1: Corey comes up with a strategy towards the end of

1132
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:14,440
his where he's ahead, so he just starts taking balls

1133
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:18,639
and throwing them into the zone that essentially kills kills

1134
00:55:18,679 --> 00:55:20,960
the ball, Yeah, which I thought was good just to

1135
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:22,480
get like take the balls off the field.

1136
00:55:23,039 --> 00:55:25,880
Speaker 2: It's weeks, but it's like, I get it.

1137
00:55:27,559 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 3: I don't mind him doing that because it's part of

1138
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:31,559
the rules. You could. But yeah, like when I thought

1139
00:55:31,599 --> 00:55:32,760
that was like, I don't love that. I hope if

1140
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,920
they do this time again in the future, they like

1141
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,599
give them easter own separate balls or something something where

1142
00:55:37,599 --> 00:55:39,800
you can't just like get one or two ahead and

1143
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,000
then just toss all them out.

1144
00:55:41,639 --> 00:55:44,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm onto what they're doing lately in

1145
00:55:44,679 --> 00:55:46,920
these eliminations. It seems like they're trying not to make

1146
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:50,559
them super physical against each other, just to avoid injuries.

1147
00:55:50,559 --> 00:55:51,039
I'm guessing.

1148
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 3: Yeah. Also, no, they made a big deal before the

1149
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,079
season that they want all eliminations to be like as

1150
00:55:59,119 --> 00:56:02,280
equitable as possible, so like even like the Tinas of

1151
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,039
the world could like go to head to head with

1152
00:56:04,119 --> 00:56:07,320
the stronger players and win exactly.

1153
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 2: And I think so we've seen some that sort of

1154
00:56:10,039 --> 00:56:12,400
are that like miss the mark right, like they're not

1155
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,639
great representations of skill. I feel like this is this

1156
00:56:15,679 --> 00:56:18,960
is one that is because this is their strength, their speed,

1157
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:23,000
there's endurance, there's defense, there's offense, there's strategy. This is

1158
00:56:23,039 --> 00:56:25,000
a good one where it's it's sort of like there's

1159
00:56:25,039 --> 00:56:27,840
a lot of skill in this one, Like there's a

1160
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,840
lot of technique and I don't know, I think this

1161
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:32,719
is a good sort of equalizer that still is fun

1162
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,920
to watch. And yeah, I wouldn't mid seeing this one again.

1163
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:36,599
I liked this one.

1164
00:56:37,639 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's good. I watch it again. Yeah, it looked

1165
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,320
fucking cool too, because when they walk in, there's like

1166
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,440
all the cages with like the spikes and shit on it.

1167
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the balls kept hitting it like they would

1168
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,639
slow motion it, and like all those little shiny spike

1169
00:56:50,679 --> 00:56:53,480
things would like like explode off of the thing. It

1170
00:56:53,559 --> 00:56:57,039
was pretty sweet and yeah, a unique game, like we

1171
00:56:57,079 --> 00:56:58,440
haven't seen this one before. I thought it was kind

1172
00:56:58,440 --> 00:56:58,719
of cool.

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00:56:59,800 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 3: Uh.

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00:57:00,159 --> 00:57:02,039
Speaker 2: But yeah, so Corey and Brad kind of stay neck

1175
00:57:02,039 --> 00:57:04,280
and neck. Corey gets one one ahead I think, and

1176
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,880
just sort of stays ahead, and that's kind of it. Yeah,

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00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:09,920
at that one moment at the end where it seemed

1178
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:11,880
like Brad could tie it up with that last ball

1179
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:16,519
and I just couldn't. Just didn't quite get there. Bummer.

1180
00:57:16,599 --> 00:57:21,760
So goodbye Brad, my boy. And then yeah, Rachel is

1181
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:26,679
against uh john A. Rachel just dominates it like we

1182
00:57:26,719 --> 00:57:29,199
all knew she would, right Like she just wasn't. It

1183
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:32,519
wasn't really close. She just fucking crushed it.

1184
00:57:34,119 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: I do feel like Johnny probably could have done decent

1185
00:57:38,039 --> 00:57:41,599
at this if she wasn't going against Rachel. For some reason,

1186
00:57:41,599 --> 00:57:44,840
I'm just imagining Rachel and like her gym picking up

1187
00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:47,559
a medicine ball and like, you know, do an exercise

1188
00:57:47,639 --> 00:57:50,360
with it. And I'm like, oh, she's she's full on

1189
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,000
with this, like she knows exactly.

1190
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 2: I don't know if many people could have beat Rachel

1191
00:57:55,400 --> 00:58:01,559
in this one. This just seems like Rachel's sort of thing. Yeah, yeah,

1192
00:58:01,559 --> 00:58:06,079
so yeah, Rachel and Corey win it. Goodbye Brad, Goodbye John.

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00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 1: A mm hmm uh. And then they picked targets. Did

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00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:10,639
you pick?

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00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,679
Speaker 2: I sure do? The target's next episode Era one are

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00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:17,000
Tina and Darrell.

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00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:21,039
Speaker 1: Tina tried to hide behind everybody, even though she's the

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00:58:21,079 --> 00:58:22,440
only person that could have been picked.

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Speaker 2: I know afore Era one it's always one of those

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00:58:24,679 --> 00:58:30,079
two women and Drell volunteers. And again if if Derek

1201
00:58:30,159 --> 00:58:32,440
is injured, I have a problem with this. I guess

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00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:34,079
we're gonna see how the rest of the season plays out.

1203
00:58:34,119 --> 00:58:39,000
But uh, Nemayah and Aviv are it for Era two?

1204
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:47,440
Because was it? Uh? Rachel's not picking the gaze dere

1205
00:58:47,639 --> 00:58:50,079
Derek and Ryan are safe and bananas can't be picked.

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00:58:50,119 --> 00:58:52,480
So all this left is Neamayah, which.

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize till this episode that you couldn't pick

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00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,000
someone who was a current target.

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00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:57,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a good rule. But yeah, I

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00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:04,039
didn't realize that either. Era three is Naya and Jordan.

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00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:09,000
When Nya says give it to me, Daddy, I didn't know.

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00:59:11,039 --> 00:59:14,880
That did things to me inside it did. Uh? And

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00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:19,840
then Ara four is Kyland and Michelle, So I have

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00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,280
a Before we get to the end of the episode,

1215
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,440
Michelle said something in one of these confessionals. She said

1216
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:27,440
something like or maybe she said it on Twitter. I

1217
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,320
don't know. I saw a discussion about this on the

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00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:33,440
MTV Challenge Subburt where Michelle said something like, oh, if

1219
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,559
I can like see who else volunteers and see who

1220
00:59:35,559 --> 00:59:37,239
else the targets are, then I can decide if I

1221
00:59:37,239 --> 00:59:40,760
want to volunteer or not. Is it fair that Era

1222
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,400
four is always the last to volunteer. They should shake

1223
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:47,559
this ship up, right. It's kind of not like it's

1224
00:59:47,599 --> 00:59:50,119
gotta be random, right. Otherwise, this is an advantage for

1225
00:59:50,159 --> 00:59:52,000
Air four to be able to see who the lineup is.

1226
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:54,599
Speaker 3: It is. Yeah, and I've seen there's a couple of

1227
00:59:54,639 --> 00:59:58,039
people on social media this week complaining about that being

1228
00:59:58,119 --> 01:00:00,840
like Air four has an unpair advantage because yeah, they

1229
01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:03,320
can they can have handpicks who they want to go

1230
01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:04,880
in based on who else is going in.

1231
01:00:06,239 --> 01:00:10,079
Speaker 1: You know, maybe it should be whoever. I mean, this

1232
01:00:10,199 --> 01:00:12,519
kind of splits up the decision making, I guess. But

1233
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,840
whatever era the person that's choosing is from, they have

1234
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:20,760
to start with their own team. Not that that would

1235
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:22,960
have mattered in this one, but at least would have

1236
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:25,360
been like something to shake it up a little bit.

1237
01:00:26,199 --> 01:00:28,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, because even if this is a slight advantage, an

1238
01:00:28,679 --> 01:00:32,519
almost meaningless advantage, it's an almost meaning less advantage thirteen

1239
01:00:32,559 --> 01:00:35,079
times in a row. You know, it's like it does

1240
01:00:35,079 --> 01:00:39,199
add up over time. So yeah, it's like, if they

1241
01:00:39,239 --> 01:00:41,639
play this format again, they's probably shake this, shake that

1242
01:00:41,639 --> 01:00:45,719
at least that portion up, right.

1243
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 1: Well, I said, Hey, everybody had a challenge. Pod dot

1244
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:50,840
com joined the Facebook. Great, you can also join a Patreon.

1245
01:00:51,599 --> 01:00:53,800
People give when they joined the patreons.

1246
01:00:54,079 --> 01:00:57,239
Speaker 2: Years and years of after shows and pre shows, lots

1247
01:00:57,239 --> 01:00:59,840
of extra content for you to listen to. Hey, we're

1248
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:02,519
all opening together a record. You'll be able to order that.

1249
01:01:02,599 --> 01:01:06,800
We'll sign it and shit, it's almost done, and you

1250
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:08,960
can leave us voicemails and we'll put that on the

1251
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:10,719
record too, So please do it. The only people that

1252
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:14,199
left voicemails this week were I think people that called

1253
01:01:14,239 --> 01:01:17,079
and then got nervous and hung up. We have a

1254
01:01:17,119 --> 01:01:19,880
handful of yeah, we have a handful of voicemails that

1255
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:23,119
are just the click click, you know, one of those things.

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01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:26,039
So hey, maybe ball's ball up a little bit and

1257
01:01:26,239 --> 01:01:29,280
fucking leave a voicemail. Seven seven nine nine oh one

1258
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:32,119
oh seven three four is the number. Seven seven nine

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01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:36,119
nine oh one oh seven three four. But back to

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01:01:36,159 --> 01:01:39,719
the Patreon advantages. You also get access to the discord

1261
01:01:40,239 --> 01:01:43,960
where you we chat live sometimes and other other stuff

1262
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,639
is there, and you know we say her name. So

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01:01:46,679 --> 01:01:54,199
thank you to Alvin, Elena, Anna, Brian, Caroline, Christopher, Cindy, Eduardo, Emily, Greg, Gretchen, Jacqueline, Jamie, Jamie, Julie,

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01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:58,039
Laura Martez, Patti, Roldan, Ryan, Samuel, Sarah, Sarah Scott says

1265
01:01:58,119 --> 01:02:03,199
shack shake our smile and Jacks Dance, Steve Aunt Steve Yeah,

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01:02:03,559 --> 01:02:04,559
big one this week. Guys.

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Speaker 1: Thanks every Zach do we have or no tim Do

1268
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:09,719
you have any reviews?

1269
01:02:10,199 --> 01:02:14,960
Speaker 2: No leave iTunes reviews or Apple podcast reviews or wherever

1270
01:02:15,039 --> 01:02:17,159
you get your podcast, leave us a review.

1271
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:22,639
Speaker 1: Zach, do you have any social media stuff we do.

1272
01:02:22,719 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 3: So last week when we were no, it's can me

1273
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:28,760
for talking about last week? Maybe we discussed sorry last

1274
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,440
week for that. Emily has come out on social media

1275
01:02:32,199 --> 01:02:37,639
and said that, following her elimination, she's retiring from the show.

1276
01:02:39,639 --> 01:02:40,960
Have we discussed that last week or not?

1277
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:43,239
Speaker 2: Yeah? I kind of not surprised.

1278
01:02:44,039 --> 01:02:46,199
Speaker 3: It makes me sad, though, because I feel like she

1279
01:02:46,239 --> 01:02:48,039
should go, you know, come back and go out on

1280
01:02:48,039 --> 01:02:48,800
a higher note.

1281
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:52,599
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think some of these older people, like older

1282
01:02:52,599 --> 01:02:57,719
people like our age ish auh that have stuff outside

1283
01:02:57,719 --> 01:02:59,480
of the challenge, I think they just don't care, like

1284
01:02:59,559 --> 01:03:01,800
it seems meaningful to us. But I don't think she'd

1285
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,280
I just don't think it matters to her, you know.

1286
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:05,639
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1287
01:03:05,679 --> 01:03:07,639
Speaker 1: Seems like I had always heard she really wanted to

1288
01:03:07,639 --> 01:03:09,000
come back and do the show, and they just never

1289
01:03:09,039 --> 01:03:09,480
called her.

1290
01:03:10,639 --> 01:03:12,519
Speaker 2: Oh I was there, she was too busy to do it.

1291
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 1: Well maybe I don't know. Who knows.

1292
01:03:15,159 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we talked about it back when the

1293
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,480
season's airing, but I think I believe it was this

1294
01:03:20,599 --> 01:03:24,760
season bananas was aired or was partnered up with Nanny

1295
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:26,920
that at a challenge meany Emily said it is supposed

1296
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,280
to be her and Bananas together and then she got

1297
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:33,280
pulled last minute and replaced with Nanni, So I think

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01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:34,000
she's wanting.

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01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:34,159
Speaker 1: To do it.

1300
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:40,039
Speaker 3: Derek has tweeted about his like he didn't give me details.

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01:03:40,079 --> 01:03:42,440
He just said all I can say, you know, is

1302
01:03:42,679 --> 01:03:51,320
it's not good. So it's funny we're talking about Devin

1303
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:54,159
earlier and has Devin always done well by the ladies.

1304
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:57,679
There's no real details, but apparently a few people have

1305
01:03:57,719 --> 01:04:02,679
talked about that. After the elimination, Devin went on a

1306
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:07,239
verbal tirade on john A and was just bashing.

1307
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:10,639
Speaker 2: Her by what.

1308
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:13,440
Speaker 3: I think, just you know, not volunteering, just you know,

1309
01:04:13,599 --> 01:04:17,280
on all that just like attacked her after she got theminated.

1310
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 2: But that's not that's not woman. It's more like sort

1311
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:22,440
of she should have.

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01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,039
Speaker 3: But also think it's kind of shitty if if she

1313
01:04:26,199 --> 01:04:27,880
just lost, she's about to go home and then you

1314
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:30,639
like kick her while she's down and be like, hey,

1315
01:04:30,639 --> 01:04:32,480
before you leave, let me just kind of like go

1316
01:04:32,639 --> 01:04:33,079
off on you.

1317
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 2: Oh it was oh to her.

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01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:42,199
Speaker 3: Yes, like he like he attacked her, like before she left,

1319
01:04:42,199 --> 01:04:44,559
He's like, wait, hold up, john A, let me let

1320
01:04:44,559 --> 01:04:46,800
me say some stuff to you, and like verbally attacked

1321
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:52,400
him from the entire cast before. She doesn't way, he said,

1322
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,920
But I've seen a couple of people, you know, being like, hey,

1323
01:04:55,039 --> 01:04:57,440
there was talk about this like earlier in the season.

1324
01:04:58,000 --> 01:04:59,639
It never made it to air or we assume it

1325
01:04:59,679 --> 01:05:05,360
went on cutting room floor. And uh, yeah, someone said that.

1326
01:05:05,599 --> 01:05:08,559
John Ike confirmed in an interview that right after the elimination,

1327
01:05:09,079 --> 01:05:10,960
and she didn't know if it would be shown or

1328
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:14,960
not based on some of the stuff. He said, no, all.

1329
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,599
Speaker 2: Right, so I might I might have to rescind what

1330
01:05:17,599 --> 01:05:19,400
I said about him being a standup guy. This is

1331
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:20,119
the first I've heard of.

1332
01:05:20,039 --> 01:05:24,199
Speaker 1: That he's just trying to set up rivals. He's just

1333
01:05:24,239 --> 01:05:25,679
trying to set up the next rival season.

1334
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:27,519
Speaker 2: Oh well then, smart Devin, good job.

1335
01:05:28,119 --> 01:05:30,239
Speaker 3: I mean, figure some the next rivals go after Kara

1336
01:05:30,519 --> 01:05:33,800
or Laura, Emily or Rachel, not John.

1337
01:05:33,599 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 2: A two time champ, dude, two time champ.

1338
01:05:36,159 --> 01:05:38,599
Speaker 3: Mhm of a knockoff brand show.

1339
01:05:39,639 --> 01:05:40,599
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. But so.

1340
01:05:42,599 --> 01:05:47,559
Speaker 3: Also we have some sad with sweet news. Leroy Uh

1341
01:05:47,679 --> 01:05:51,159
put out this week that his father passed away but

1342
01:05:51,159 --> 01:05:54,000
that he was able to go and give his father

1343
01:05:54,159 --> 01:05:56,519
his final haircut before the funeral.

1344
01:05:57,079 --> 01:05:57,719
Speaker 1: Oh that's nice.

1345
01:05:57,719 --> 01:06:00,639
Speaker 3: So that's sweet. But also sad for him, and that's family.

1346
01:06:01,239 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1347
01:06:03,559 --> 01:06:05,400
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think that's all the social media we

1348
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:06,159
have for this week.

1349
01:06:06,639 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 1: All right, somebody want to do uh Fantasy League?

1350
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 2: Sh oh yeah, I forgot to do the Public League.

1351
01:06:18,119 --> 01:06:20,960
I'm so fucking mad at myself, Dude. I made fun

1352
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,079
of Carlin so bad for doing that last season, and

1353
01:06:23,159 --> 01:06:25,679
I just fucking I just fucking forget.

1354
01:06:25,519 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 1: Public League Top three players or Tony time. I touched

1355
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:33,199
Johnny's Banana and CT phone home and then carl and

1356
01:06:33,239 --> 01:06:35,239
San Diego slid into fourth place.

1357
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:36,440
Speaker 2: Geez that girl.

1358
01:06:37,559 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Zachie Banana is bumped up to eighth place. Yeah,

1359
01:06:42,239 --> 01:06:43,960
bumped me down to ninth place.

1360
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,519
Speaker 2: Jeez, you guys, what am I for? The thirties?

1361
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:53,119
Speaker 1: And Tim is scrolling scrolling? Ah? I hate this thirty

1362
01:06:53,159 --> 01:06:53,719
third place?

1363
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 3: Ah?

1364
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,239
Speaker 2: Out of how many like forty dos?

1365
01:06:56,360 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 1: Uh forty one? Fuck well, there's two of them that

1366
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:06,880
are tied at zero, so realistically forty.

1367
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:09,239
Speaker 2: So I'm not doing so good. What you're saying is

1368
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:11,840
I could be doing better, right.

1369
01:07:12,159 --> 01:07:14,119
Speaker 3: I mean you could come back. Tim. I jumped from

1370
01:07:14,119 --> 01:07:16,559
like twenty second to eight in one week, so.

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01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not that worried about it. I think I'm

1372
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:24,840
gonna be okay. Yeah, if I lose, I lose. It's

1373
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,480
all right. I get to host this fucking shitty podcast

1374
01:07:27,559 --> 01:07:28,440
every week, no matter what.

1375
01:07:29,519 --> 01:07:30,079
Speaker 1: That's true.

1376
01:07:30,159 --> 01:07:31,559
Speaker 2: I don't have to win. I don't have to win. Shit.

1377
01:07:32,159 --> 01:07:34,119
Speaker 1: We got four people in the chat room this week.

1378
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:35,360
It just keeps getting lower.

1379
01:07:36,719 --> 01:07:39,840
Speaker 2: So noverybody's losing interest in us. That's all right. I

1380
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:46,239
lose interested in myself. Say so are we, Zach?

1381
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:47,519
Speaker 1: Do you want to give us the host League?

1382
01:07:48,079 --> 01:07:51,559
Speaker 3: Yeah? In the host League? Sadly so, in fourth place

1383
01:07:52,039 --> 01:07:57,480
Wolfie with sixty one points, dropping from second to third place,

1384
01:07:57,719 --> 01:07:59,000
Tim with seventy.

1385
01:07:59,599 --> 01:08:01,679
Speaker 2: But I mean it though, I'm in it, you're in it.

1386
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:06,159
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, we'll get to that Darlin second place, beating

1387
01:08:06,199 --> 01:08:09,119
him up by one point. It's seventy one. And then

1388
01:08:09,119 --> 01:08:11,960
in first place you're reigning champions still Zach with one

1389
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:16,520
hundred and sixty back to back ERA four winning weeks.

1390
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:18,239
You guys need to pick out.

1391
01:08:19,279 --> 01:08:21,039
Speaker 2: I love that Zach keeps track of the scores, and

1392
01:08:21,119 --> 01:08:26,439
Zach always beats us by like twice the point. He's

1393
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:28,479
a regular Johnny Bananas in the way he plays these

1394
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:29,600
fantasy leagues.

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Speaker 3: I'm currently on the online I was gonna say, if

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you don't like my scoring in the online scoring, and

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I'm first place as well, so.

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Speaker 1: Let's as say also true, Zach you moved up to

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number one this week.

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Speaker 2: And my fourth place and my fourth place on that one.

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Speaker 1: You are fucked.

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Speaker 2: It's not my game, man, I'm not going at Fantasy

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Sports apparently I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Well I don't know either.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just mu get over it.

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Speaker 3: My tims for next season. Just draft the Vacation.

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Speaker 2: Alliance Smart Smart worked out for you this year.

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Speaker 3: That's what's working out for me. Vacation Alliance is carrying me. H.

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What is like Jordan or Jenny? Well, I guess Jenny

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did stuff for me this week.

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Speaker 1: Ok mm hmm, all right, anything else for we wrap

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up this episode? No, no, all right, everybody Avery challengebot

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dot com during the Facebook group and for this episode

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of Challenge.

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Speaker 3: It's been Brian Big Zachie Bananas.

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Speaker 1: And as Tina said, he's a balls to the wall

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type of guy.

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Speaker 2: Charlie's Charlie.

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Speaker 1: Hmm stopping, what's gonna hand?

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Speaker 2: What's gonna hang out here?

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Speaker 3: Tim here