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<v Speaker 1>Hm, it's that time of the month. Time to get haud.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the Hard Foundation Bonus episode. We're the hosts the

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<v Speaker 1>Major King, mat Codona, maxim Ammendment, Brian Myers, and up

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<v Speaker 1>the silver Balls himself slock Clock Stall.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, welcome everyone to the UH Developmental Park three

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<v Speaker 2>bonus episode here on the Hard Foundation tier of the

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<v Speaker 2>Major Wrestling Figure Podcast Patreon. I am your moderator today,

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<v Speaker 2>Smart Mark Sterling, a square doc, silver Balls, Phil Jackson,

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<v Speaker 2>a wrestling figure collecting and I'm joined by the Developmental

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<v Speaker 2>Wrestlers themselves, first fighting out of Merrick, New York, US

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<v Speaker 2>living in Merrick, New York.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, that would be me, Brian Majors, two time

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<v Speaker 3>Deep South Tag Team champion and one time OVW Tech

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<v Speaker 3>Team Champion.

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<v Speaker 2>And now currently living in floor.

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<v Speaker 1>We're only we're only one time OBW.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>We haven't even told that story in these which is

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<v Speaker 3>unbelievable that they got like livid at us because we

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<v Speaker 3>had the vacation days and they put the titles on us.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we're gonna start with that story.

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<v Speaker 4>But who shows screaming at us? Yes, yes, I do.

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<v Speaker 4>I just saw Brusky's mind. Go oh my God, that

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<v Speaker 4>did happen?

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<v Speaker 1>Anyways, Brett Major's here. Uh, you know, one half of

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<v Speaker 1>the Major's brothers eventually turns into the Major brothers. This

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<v Speaker 1>this development, yeah, yes, and development. Oh I guess yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess yeah. This kind of went off the rails.

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<v Speaker 1>It was supposed to be one episode to two. Listen,

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<v Speaker 1>we might come back to it. There's no way we

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<v Speaker 1>can fill this in three episodes. I've been talking to

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<v Speaker 1>the Dark Side of the Ring people, like giving them information,

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<v Speaker 1>footage and pleading my case why Deep South Wrestling should

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<v Speaker 1>be in the next Dark Side of the Ring. But

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<v Speaker 1>it hasn't happy ending. You know what I'm saying. Kobe Kingston,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>The most comical dark side ever, right, yeah, But there's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of twisted things also, Like Deep South Wrestling

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<v Speaker 3>closes down, okay, pictures mark.

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<v Speaker 1>Deep Southresting closes down because somebody name, well, let's say

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<v Speaker 1>his name rhymes with gets a blow job in the Mexico,

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<v Speaker 1>the Mexican restaurant that we have to like smooth people with,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Big Veto walks in on that said blowjob

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<v Speaker 1>reports him to the owner of Deep South Wrestling, who

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<v Speaker 1>tries to convince to turn himself in. It's in that

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<v Speaker 1>he forced himself on this woman, which he did not

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<v Speaker 1>are dead while he's on the phone. That's what they're

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<v Speaker 1>paying for here.

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<v Speaker 4>The public does not know the story.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't what if I deleted the name?

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<v Speaker 4>Sure?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, So then anyway, I'll just bleep it for you.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll just bleep before you.

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<v Speaker 1>Is on the phone with WWE offices and he doesn't realize.

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<v Speaker 1>So later on that he's on speakerphone and John Lauren

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<v Speaker 1>I was like.

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<v Speaker 4>We did you come?

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<v Speaker 1>It's an insane but he doesn't realize.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's the final straw that you know that broke

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<v Speaker 3>the back of Deep South.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god?

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<v Speaker 2>Am I allowed to ask questions on this?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, Okay, it's a consensual situation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. Now, so Big Video Deep South, Deep South a crush.

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<v Speaker 1>Big Video had a crush on this said woman. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>just call her.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll call her, should we bleep?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, all right, well, bleep, bleep, we're bleeping.

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<v Speaker 3>Check the identities of the so anyway for so legendly

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<v Speaker 3>all allegedly of course.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're at this this Mexican restaurant because it was

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<v Speaker 1>the most awkward thing ever, because these people are trying

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<v Speaker 1>to enjoy this fine cuisine, and we're like, hey, we're

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Major Brothers. Come to Deep South Wrestling every.

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<v Speaker 4>Thursday night, Southwest, so asked backwards.

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<v Speaker 3>We'd have to like interrupt families while they're having a

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<v Speaker 3>Mexican restaurant dinner on Wednesday nights and be like, Hi,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Brian Majors. Are you enjoying your casadilla? Well, if

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<v Speaker 3>you're doing that, you'll enjoy Deep South Wrestling each and

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<v Speaker 3>every Thursday night down at blah blah blah blah Road.

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<v Speaker 3>Come see us live.

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<v Speaker 2>How did this not come out in the I am

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<v Speaker 2>Are you guys messing with me?

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<v Speaker 1>No, That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>There's so much information, so much it's it's and especially

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<v Speaker 4>to look back on in like more mature eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like because some of it just it just felt

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<v Speaker 1>so normal.

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<v Speaker 4>We were also so like young and dumb.

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<v Speaker 3>We just did whatever we're told and like did the

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<v Speaker 3>best of our abilities and didn't question things. And then

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<v Speaker 3>you back on it as a thirty six year old going, what.

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<v Speaker 2>The okay, so you got to go to a Mexican restaurant? Now,

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<v Speaker 2>what level of Mexican restaurant were talking? Are we talking?

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<v Speaker 2>It's somewhere between Taco Bell and the restaurant that Matt

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<v Speaker 2>likes to go to an Epcot. Where are we?

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, it's I'm trying to think of like it's

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<v Speaker 3>like a Chilia's, but not a chill.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, like like a two and a half out of five.

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<v Speaker 4>On hell yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we're forced this is like basically like the

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<v Speaker 3>Street Team every Wednesday. But it's so embarrassing and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like degrading. We we end up just all getting smashed

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<v Speaker 3>at the bar and like conjred getting around the bar

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<v Speaker 3>and getting smashed.

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<v Speaker 2>So you walk up to a table and you're just like, hey, guys, sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>interrupt cold.

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<v Speaker 4>Like interrupt families while they're eating.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that's who we're supposed to introduce who we are.

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<v Speaker 1>We're all away, We're all guilty. After like ten minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>we all get well, no, no, the restaurants in on it.

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<v Speaker 3>The restaurant was wanted us there, or there was some

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<v Speaker 3>kind of weird brother deal, right yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But then like listen, after we go up to a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of families, we all just got to.

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<v Speaker 3>Quit and drink it so degrading you just start to

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<v Speaker 3>ripping out to the bar and having some bears.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's over.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, so you guys are ripping shots.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, jeez, mar got all that work today he's.

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<v Speaker 1>Allegedly getting a below jobs all in comes big veto.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I don't know if he was wearing the dress

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<v Speaker 1>this night or not.

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<v Speaker 3>No, this might be when he was trying to be

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<v Speaker 3>this muy TiVo muy tivto.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, But so what I don't understand is how is

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<v Speaker 2>him admitting, like changing the story to that he was

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<v Speaker 2>doing this bad act because.

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<v Speaker 1>It would protect the market rep and protect keeps out

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<v Speaker 1>the wrestling, it would.

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<v Speaker 3>Keep Deep South open. And then just Barry said guilty

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<v Speaker 3>person into like basically not having a career anymore. Like

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<v Speaker 3>basically it was like his sacrifice to save Deep South.

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<v Speaker 3>And he was just like, no, yeah, right, it's insane.

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<v Speaker 3>Who would say, who on earth would be like, hmm,

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<v Speaker 3>yeah me save Deep South? Make up that I did

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<v Speaker 3>something that you know, absurd?

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<v Speaker 2>My god? All right, yeah, let's let's go this it

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<v Speaker 2>back or forward, tell me this, tell me this story

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<v Speaker 2>about the tag titles. And they got mad.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so Broski clearly forgot this. But we sat on

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<v Speaker 3>a couple episodes ago. I'm sure Deep South closes like

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<v Speaker 3>literally to us abruptly, but that's because of this incident

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<v Speaker 3>was like the final straw that we didn't learn for

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of years later as to what really happened.

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<v Speaker 3>And literally that night John Lorneidis was came down to

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<v Speaker 3>McDonough and told us that us us to Brad Jay,

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<v Speaker 3>Jesse Festus and I think Angelia Love, We're all going

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<v Speaker 3>to OVW immediately because we were like the closest to

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<v Speaker 3>being called up and everyone else was going to go

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<v Speaker 3>start what would become FCW. So like and we talked

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<v Speaker 3>about another episodes we went and shure we definitely had

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<v Speaker 3>that like group hug with like Boucie and for everybody

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<v Speaker 3>had some heat hon us. They like I think OVW

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<v Speaker 3>was initially excited to have us, and looking back on it,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a lot of it's our fault with our attitudes

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<v Speaker 3>because we were not excited to be there, like we

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<v Speaker 3>just like we're already called up, you know, so we

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<v Speaker 3>get called up in the literally the two three weeks

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<v Speaker 3>it takes to get to OVW, we got called up,

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<v Speaker 3>so we were pretty checked out of like even being there.

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<v Speaker 3>And we also in our minds like this is just

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<v Speaker 3>a little pit stop. Even though we wound up being

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<v Speaker 3>there for like eight months or whatever, like Johnny Wann let.

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<v Speaker 1>Us seven months. I'll never get.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like May to December, December, December. Yeah, we come

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<v Speaker 4>home like Christmas or Thanksgiving.

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<v Speaker 2>That that fall is the training at OVW as brutal

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<v Speaker 2>or is it kind.

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<v Speaker 3>Of like not even close, not even close, but it

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<v Speaker 3>was brutal in another way like Deep South, you're doing

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<v Speaker 3>like just taking years off your life with like bumps

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<v Speaker 3>and squats and push ups like an unholy amount, like

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<v Speaker 3>where it was like dangerous as hell OBEW. You didn't

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<v Speaker 3>even break a sweat. You went in and Ali Snow

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<v Speaker 3>just talked to you about stuff and maybe had like

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<v Speaker 3>one guy in the ring and like with demo stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was just so boring that it was like

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<v Speaker 3>taking its toll.

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<v Speaker 1>I only remember actually training in OBW like once, and

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<v Speaker 1>like Robert Gibson was telling people that they're running the

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<v Speaker 1>ropes the wrong game.

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<v Speaker 3>Then like yeah, there's stuff like that. And then also

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<v Speaker 3>we should say that we because we hit we're on

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<v Speaker 3>a full road schedule. We missed a lot of days,

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<v Speaker 3>so we'd come and only do like a class because

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<v Speaker 3>we're on the road the other days of the week,

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<v Speaker 3>and they did.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like we'd come right in and then it

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<v Speaker 1>would be like TV.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah that's what I'm saying, right, Yeah, so yeah, because

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<v Speaker 3>we would land Wednesday morning and have to go right

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<v Speaker 3>to TV.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we were able to skip like the morning practice. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>not practice, but it was like the morning meeting, remember.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then we would miss like obviously Monday and

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<v Speaker 3>Tuesday of training because we bed TVs so.

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<v Speaker 1>And then to Obw's credit, they did a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>live events, house shows. They did a lot like all

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<v Speaker 1>weekend long, so.

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<v Speaker 4>We would do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Those things would be attended by you know, it could

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<v Speaker 3>be a six flag show where there's hundreds of people there,

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<v Speaker 3>or show in literally Bumblefuck Kentucky in front of twenty people,

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<v Speaker 3>twelve people insane.

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<v Speaker 2>And Cornett is he's not there.

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<v Speaker 4>Gone long gone.

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<v Speaker 3>It's Danny Davis al Snow. I guess they're writing the show.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think who's writing the show? Because even the

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<v Speaker 3>Hayman error is over. We didn't get like the Hayman

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<v Speaker 3>era of it. So uh anyway, they initially I guess

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<v Speaker 3>they were excited to have us, and they write their

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<v Speaker 3>TVs like you know, in an old school way where

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<v Speaker 3>things are mapped out and they put the straps on

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<v Speaker 3>us and Brad Jay like pretty fast and he's the

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<v Speaker 3>world champion where the tag chance. We have this picture

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<v Speaker 3>in our apartment that's like pretty obnoxious where we're all

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<v Speaker 4>Belts and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's Jay?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sorry Bradley, j J. Bradley.

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<v Speaker 3>He was Ryan Braddock in w B for like three minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>Aiden o'sha an impact is like his last run, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe he's had a lot of He actually was in

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<v Speaker 4>Oh wow, they steal. Yeah, so he's he's been around.

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<v Speaker 3>So we put in we were somehow we were allowed

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<v Speaker 3>to like put in like vacation time because we had

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<v Speaker 3>been running so hot where we were gonna go home

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<v Speaker 3>for like a weekend and not like maybe we didn't

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<v Speaker 3>have live of WWE live events, so we put it in.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't want to throw Boosie completely under the

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<v Speaker 3>tell them, but he okayed it and he was like

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<v Speaker 3>was like way too late and they put the titles

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<v Speaker 3>and they were like livid that we couldn't be around

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<v Speaker 3>for like a weekend of their live events or something.

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<v Speaker 3>But it was like what were the repercussions did? Dan

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<v Speaker 3>Davis screamed at us, like screamed at us like he

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<v Speaker 3>was so mad, and then we lost the belt like

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<v Speaker 3>it was almost it was like uh RVD and sad

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<v Speaker 3>who getting busted with pot situation, Like we lost them

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<v Speaker 3>like immediately want but like.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing was like it was like punishment, but we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't give the Yeah, man, I can't even remember who

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<v Speaker 1>beat us that I cared so little. I don't remember

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<v Speaker 1>I remember winning them or losing.

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<v Speaker 3>That's how meaning I know we won them at six

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<v Speaker 3>Flags from bam Neely and Maso right Toamaso uh Champa

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<v Speaker 3>and the ham. It was a three on two tag

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<v Speaker 3>match and I pinned to Masco Champa to win the

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<v Speaker 3>OVW tagtiles, which, which is pretty insane to Masso got

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<v Speaker 3>like the weirdest like unreal, unfair shaken developmentally. He was

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<v Speaker 3>signed for like not even six months and they like

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<v Speaker 3>made him a manager because he was so tiny, which is.

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<v Speaker 4>Like unbelievable to believe.

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<v Speaker 3>Now he's done, I know, yeah, is that crazy?

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<v Speaker 2>That is wild?

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<v Speaker 3>And then randomly just got fired like one day, like

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<v Speaker 3>he was fired like nobody else.

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<v Speaker 4>It wasn't even like a group it was. I remember

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<v Speaker 4>thinking it was so strange.

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<v Speaker 2>But I thought I heard something about him jumping a

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<v Speaker 2>guardrail as an or there was an extra story about

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<v Speaker 2>an extra jump in the guardrail to shake hands with

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<v Speaker 2>Triple H. And then for some reason I remember maybe

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<v Speaker 2>that was him or something.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I've never heard that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, I forgot. I said that, let's.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's really we have to like look that up. The

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<v Speaker 3>Oxenhammer beat us back to get him back. I have

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<v Speaker 3>no clue, no idea.

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<v Speaker 4>I literally have no memory. That's sad.

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<v Speaker 2>That was the name of their of their tag name,

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<v Speaker 2>Oxen Hammer.

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<v Speaker 3>VAM nearly was the Ox and Charles the Hammer Evans

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<v Speaker 3>was his partner, and there were Ox and Hammer.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool and then ox or which one becomes bam neely Ox.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I don't know if we've answered this. What was

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<v Speaker 2>your entrance music at Deep South and what was it

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<v Speaker 2>at OVW In Deep South?

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<v Speaker 4>It was they had like I'll never forget this.

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<v Speaker 3>So the guy that helped out at Deep South or

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<v Speaker 3>I guess he was employed there was Neil Neil Pruitt.

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<v Speaker 3>He's the voice of the He's the voice of New New.

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<v Speaker 4>New World Order.

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<v Speaker 3>He is the he is that voice. And he made

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<v Speaker 3>those original like nw O vignettes and worked for w

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<v Speaker 3>W like new New, New New World Order.

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<v Speaker 1>He sent me a happy birthday thay on Facebook. He

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<v Speaker 1>said like New World Order for life. But uh, well

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<v Speaker 1>that's how I read it. I remember when we first started.

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<v Speaker 1>He showed us.

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<v Speaker 3>He took us into like the production room whatever, and

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<v Speaker 3>there was like books of CDs and they were old

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<v Speaker 3>like generic w CW entrance themes that like we could

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<v Speaker 3>pick through.

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<v Speaker 4>That's how we found the one we used.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was just what random like sound.

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<v Speaker 3>Random brothered out like it was almost like take the

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<v Speaker 3>Snake or something a little bit yeah okay.

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<v Speaker 1>But then obew, you could use real music.

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<v Speaker 4>What one thing? For sure we were excited about OVW.

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<v Speaker 3>So one of ow's using real music like ECB style,

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<v Speaker 3>We're like, whoa yeah, and we were going really into

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<v Speaker 3>Daughtry at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what I want, what I need?

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<v Speaker 4>I forgot what it was called, but it's something Dawtry,

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<v Speaker 4>It's what I want and it's Dawtry and Slash from

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<v Speaker 4>Guns N' Roses. That's why it's got like the cool

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<v Speaker 4>like beat.

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<v Speaker 2>To not remembering anything about that song.

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<v Speaker 4>It wasn't a radio hit, but we like, we liked

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<v Speaker 4>the album. We had the CD. Yeah, we would like,

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<v Speaker 4>let's do it in the car and it was Prosy's

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<v Speaker 4>idea and I was like, you know what, I'm on board.

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<v Speaker 2>I was a Daughtry fan in that season of American Idol,

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<v Speaker 2>all right. The whole deal of this, uh you know

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<v Speaker 2>a thing, thank some of Bud.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know that.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not picking up there.

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<v Speaker 1>I was today years old when I realized it had

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<v Speaker 1>Slash in it.

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<v Speaker 4>Though you serious?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm serious?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm now added to my playlist.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh wow, It's been on my for years. All right.

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<v Speaker 2>So the gimmick of these episodes is that people ask questions.

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<v Speaker 2>I've noticed that a couple are asking similar or possibly

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<v Speaker 2>the same questions as all.

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<v Speaker 4>You think it's been been hashed upon. Just steer clear

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<v Speaker 4>of that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, well, I sort of can't even remember what we've

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<v Speaker 2>talked about, but are going to work through these things.

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<v Speaker 4>So easy to talk about this because there's so much.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then we ask a question, then it jogs

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<v Speaker 2>your memory, and that too, all right, why it, Adam,

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<v Speaker 2>what was the toughest criticism somebody gave you? And I

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<v Speaker 2>know that people yelled at you a lot, So let's

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<v Speaker 2>think about something that was like maybe real, like that

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<v Speaker 2>was pretty tough.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, what about having a tag tea match

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<v Speaker 1>and coming through the curtain and there's angry, angry Bob

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<v Speaker 1>Holly there, Well that's not he says it sucked. Bride's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what exactly what you like about it?

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<v Speaker 3>But I'll take this from the top and and you

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<v Speaker 3>know what, this is a very arrogant answer that question.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, Mark, we were so young that like

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<v Speaker 3>there was just so much room for improvement, so like

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, it wasn't like.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why you're in developmental to learn it.

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<v Speaker 4>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>To me, yeah, that's why you know it should be

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<v Speaker 3>like where you get better. So like I don't really

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<v Speaker 3>recall being like epically crushed by someone saying like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we just got better little by little and learned and

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<v Speaker 3>tried really really.

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<v Speaker 4>Fucking hard, and like paid off.

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<v Speaker 3>But anyway, Bob Holly, I believe it's like right, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's right before his ECW run where he gets

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<v Speaker 3>that cut on his back that they they play in

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<v Speaker 3>like forever. Basically, yeah, you know, he takes that that

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<v Speaker 3>table bump and he has the bat. It's right up

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<v Speaker 3>to that he had. He was coming off some big injury,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe a neckinger or something, and I guess he asked

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<v Speaker 3>or was sent to Deep South the rehab. But he's

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<v Speaker 3>Bob Holly, He's not like in the classes or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>And he would from my recollection, it was about three

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<v Speaker 3>weeks and he would just show up and you didn't

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<v Speaker 3>know when he was gonna show up.

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<v Speaker 4>And it was literally like like it was the air

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<v Speaker 4>was coming out of him. He was so scary, dude.

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<v Speaker 4>The doors are just so intense.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh shit, it's Bob and like he was just so terrifying.

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<v Speaker 3>And the two main things I remember about this run

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<v Speaker 3>is one, well, one, he loved Gallows because I think

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<v Speaker 3>he thought Gallows was like an old school brother and

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<v Speaker 3>he gave him a pass and like really loved him.

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<v Speaker 3>And then he was mean as fucked like everybody, but

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<v Speaker 3>he wasn't mean the Broskian.

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<v Speaker 1>Eye no, and I remember he's he told us that

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<v Speaker 1>he was gonna get us called up, or at least

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<v Speaker 1>gonna try out. Then he was telling me like how

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<v Speaker 1>to gain weight, like eat hot dogs in the middle

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<v Speaker 1>of the night, like he was being he was being

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<v Speaker 1>as nice as possibly could. I remember eating hot dogs

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<v Speaker 1>with no bun in the middle of the night, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, but he was still so scary. I remember we

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<v Speaker 3>did this one time. We were doing something and he

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't even he was like watching from the other side

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<v Speaker 3>of the rail. Was part of the class, and it

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<v Speaker 3>was this kid, Chris Rambowla who never made it or

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<v Speaker 3>anything and he quit the biz. But he was tying up.

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<v Speaker 3>But he's like, you tie up like a fucking pussy.

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<v Speaker 3>And then he hopped the rail and he gets in.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like like this and he keeps doing a power

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<v Speaker 3>and lbo tie. But every time he would do it,

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<v Speaker 3>he would slip like a big like right jab across

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<v Speaker 3>his face and kind of punching him in the face

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<v Speaker 3>every time, like on purpose, to the point where like

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<v Speaker 3>they just keep tying up, tying up, tying on. By

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<v Speaker 3>the time it's over, this kid is like shaking. He's

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<v Speaker 3>got a bloody lip coming like trickling down and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, that's how you tie up, you fucking bitch.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like just nuts man. And then so like

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<v Speaker 3>we didn't have any run ins with him when and

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<v Speaker 3>like Brosky said, we thought we were like even kind

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<v Speaker 3>of cool with him. So he was at our show

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<v Speaker 3>and we had and I'm in my mind like a

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<v Speaker 3>fine mash like Knocks and Derrek Nikerk, Mike Knox and

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<v Speaker 3>Dark Niker were replected basically the top guys of Deep South,

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<v Speaker 3>Like there was no one, you know, in a higher echelon,

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<v Speaker 3>and we hung with them, had this like I thought, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>tag or whatever. And we got in the back and

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<v Speaker 3>Bob's there and we were like, hey, Bob, did you

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<v Speaker 3>see the match?

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<v Speaker 1>Wed you think?

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<v Speaker 3>He goes yeah, and then we were like what And

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<v Speaker 3>then like I was like it felt like an eternity,

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm like, oh, I can't just leave it at that,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I gotta like follow up, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Bro I'm not in that situation, but I've certainly been

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<v Speaker 2>in the situation where you get a shitty response. So

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<v Speaker 2>then you're like, do I just Homer in the bush?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? You gotta probably what I should have done.

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00:19:24.559 --> 00:19:27.240
<v Speaker 2>You gotta go, like I said something.

431
00:19:27.759 --> 00:19:31.839
<v Speaker 3>I said something like, well, Bob, like what particularly did

432
00:19:31.880 --> 00:19:34.440
<v Speaker 3>you not like about that? And he just sat and

433
00:19:34.480 --> 00:19:36.599
<v Speaker 3>then he like and like that turned heads like it

434
00:19:36.640 --> 00:19:38.599
<v Speaker 3>was so loud. It was that everyone in locker rooms

435
00:19:38.640 --> 00:19:40.640
<v Speaker 3>like looking at us now. And then he like stormed

436
00:19:40.680 --> 00:19:42.680
<v Speaker 3>away and went out the back door. And then we

437
00:19:42.680 --> 00:19:44.680
<v Speaker 3>didn't see him until we were on the main roster

438
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<v Speaker 3>with him.

439
00:19:45.559 --> 00:19:48.759
<v Speaker 1>And then he said, yeah, I had to you have

440
00:19:48.799 --> 00:19:57.759
<v Speaker 1>to bleep the word market. Yeah, the country.

441
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

442
00:19:58.119 --> 00:20:01.160
<v Speaker 3>The next two times we saw him, one was like, uh,

443
00:20:02.920 --> 00:20:05.519
<v Speaker 3>the catering, like when you do overseas tour and you're

444
00:20:05.519 --> 00:20:07.599
<v Speaker 3>on two different brands, there's like that one night, like

445
00:20:07.720 --> 00:20:09.680
<v Speaker 3>Monday night, like late night, you might run into the

446
00:20:09.759 --> 00:20:11.759
<v Speaker 3>other crew because they're coming back from TV's and you're

447
00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:14.319
<v Speaker 3>getting to TV's and he saw us and he said.

448
00:20:14.119 --> 00:20:14.799
<v Speaker 4>Do you let you too?

449
00:20:16.480 --> 00:20:19.519
<v Speaker 3>And then uh, I think right before that we saw

450
00:20:19.599 --> 00:20:22.119
<v Speaker 3>him like when we were doing darks and stuff, and.

451
00:20:22.359 --> 00:20:24.599
<v Speaker 1>Oh, maybe that one was just y'all want to work it.

452
00:20:24.680 --> 00:20:26.759
<v Speaker 1>Maybe maybe I can mix the two stories, but still

453
00:20:26.799 --> 00:20:27.640
<v Speaker 1>it was intimidating.

454
00:20:27.720 --> 00:20:29.359
<v Speaker 4>It was definitely an F bomb in there.

455
00:20:29.640 --> 00:20:34.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, anyway, he's changed now Bob sweet, we love Bob,

456
00:20:34.279 --> 00:20:35.920
<v Speaker 3>we love Bob whole things up.

457
00:20:36.240 --> 00:20:39.119
<v Speaker 2>Wow, he has definitely changed. I've heard podcasts where he

458
00:20:39.200 --> 00:20:42.759
<v Speaker 2>kind of like has admitted that he regrets maybe being

459
00:20:42.920 --> 00:20:43.359
<v Speaker 2>as mean.

460
00:20:43.279 --> 00:20:45.920
<v Speaker 3>As he was an intense dude to be around, scary

461
00:20:46.359 --> 00:20:48.720
<v Speaker 3>Like I literally he would come in and people's hearts

462
00:20:48.720 --> 00:20:51.799
<v Speaker 3>would sink, like, oh no, Bob's here, because like it

463
00:20:51.839 --> 00:20:54.160
<v Speaker 3>was already hard enough, and then that would just suck

464
00:20:54.200 --> 00:20:55.799
<v Speaker 3>the life out of the room, like this is gonna

465
00:20:55.799 --> 00:20:58.079
<v Speaker 3>be terrible, or like who knows what's gonna happen, or

466
00:20:58.200 --> 00:20:59.480
<v Speaker 3>who's gonna say the wrong.

467
00:20:59.319 --> 00:21:00.000
<v Speaker 4>Thing or whatever.

468
00:21:01.200 --> 00:21:03.039
<v Speaker 3>I remember one time I don't know remembers is he

469
00:21:03.119 --> 00:21:05.799
<v Speaker 3>was like teaching a class and he like he would

470
00:21:05.880 --> 00:21:09.039
<v Speaker 3>only work with Danny Inferno, Danny Jimondo, and he's basically saying,

471
00:21:09.119 --> 00:21:10.319
<v Speaker 3>like he knows what he's doing the rest of you

472
00:21:10.359 --> 00:21:15.079
<v Speaker 3>but suck just because Danny had been around here for

473
00:21:15.119 --> 00:21:15.599
<v Speaker 3>a long time.

474
00:21:15.640 --> 00:21:15.799
<v Speaker 4>You know.

475
00:21:17.640 --> 00:21:20.759
<v Speaker 2>All right, I'm gonna ask this question. Uh, if you

476
00:21:20.759 --> 00:21:22.640
<v Speaker 2>guys want to pass, just say pass and we'll move on.

477
00:21:23.079 --> 00:21:26.640
<v Speaker 2>Eric anymore, Ben wah stories, you guys had a good

478
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<v Speaker 2>one last time.

479
00:21:28.240 --> 00:21:32.160
<v Speaker 3>That's really I mean, that's it really, uh right, he

480
00:21:32.960 --> 00:21:36.319
<v Speaker 3>would have like private workouts with MVP at Deep South

481
00:21:36.359 --> 00:21:40.599
<v Speaker 3>and they're getting ready for that Mania match, and we

482
00:21:40.880 --> 00:21:42.480
<v Speaker 3>were never like a part of it. We knew they

483
00:21:42.519 --> 00:21:44.079
<v Speaker 3>were going on and stuff, but we didn't like hang

484
00:21:44.119 --> 00:21:45.759
<v Speaker 3>out with them or sitting in on them or anything

485
00:21:45.799 --> 00:21:45.920
<v Speaker 3>like that.

486
00:21:46.160 --> 00:21:50.599
<v Speaker 2>Right, Steve in Thornton, is there a match that you

487
00:21:50.680 --> 00:21:53.319
<v Speaker 2>had or witnessed during Deep South or FCW that you

488
00:21:53.359 --> 00:21:55.480
<v Speaker 2>wish more people had the chance to see, whether for

489
00:21:55.519 --> 00:21:56.480
<v Speaker 2>good or bad reasons?

490
00:21:57.759 --> 00:22:03.279
<v Speaker 4>Also, Okay, Omega versus Chrissy Vain practice match? Are you serious?

491
00:22:03.319 --> 00:22:04.200
<v Speaker 4>I don't remember this at all.

492
00:22:04.240 --> 00:22:04.880
<v Speaker 1>You don't remember this?

493
00:22:05.200 --> 00:22:09.720
<v Speaker 3>No, Like Kenny and Bill DeMott had a very, uh

494
00:22:10.920 --> 00:22:12.200
<v Speaker 3>peculiar relationship.

495
00:22:12.279 --> 00:22:13.640
<v Speaker 4>I would say, I don't know how to really put

496
00:22:13.640 --> 00:22:14.200
<v Speaker 4>my finger on it.

497
00:22:15.559 --> 00:22:16.480
<v Speaker 2>What he hated him?

498
00:22:16.559 --> 00:22:19.559
<v Speaker 3>Right, He just forever reason made his Kenny's life like

499
00:22:19.559 --> 00:22:21.799
<v Speaker 3>a living hell, even though Kenny was obviously very talented.

500
00:22:22.400 --> 00:22:23.079
<v Speaker 4>And then.

501
00:22:24.519 --> 00:22:26.599
<v Speaker 3>We did practice matches one day where Bill it was

502
00:22:26.599 --> 00:22:27.920
<v Speaker 3>on the fly and he would just go like you

503
00:22:27.960 --> 00:22:30.160
<v Speaker 3>two go, you two go, And he definitely purposely kept

504
00:22:30.240 --> 00:22:32.640
<v Speaker 3>Kenny last and he made him go with like the

505
00:22:32.640 --> 00:22:36.119
<v Speaker 3>only girl or the odd numbers, and he wrestled Chrissy Vain,

506
00:22:36.200 --> 00:22:39.640
<v Speaker 3>who ended up marrying Connor from the Ascension and still

507
00:22:39.640 --> 00:22:44.119
<v Speaker 3>wrestles to this day. And I'll never forget that like

508
00:22:44.559 --> 00:22:46.680
<v Speaker 3>the heat spot or like the cutoff spot was like

509
00:22:46.759 --> 00:22:50.000
<v Speaker 3>something to her butt, like he punched her in the

510
00:22:50.000 --> 00:22:53.039
<v Speaker 3>butt or whatever, and like we all popped. But then

511
00:22:53.119 --> 00:22:55.440
<v Speaker 3>like he made the whole match makes sense. Like he'd

512
00:22:55.440 --> 00:22:58.759
<v Speaker 3>grab like holds like but holes and then like cut

513
00:22:58.920 --> 00:23:01.680
<v Speaker 3>off and then like cut her off with like a

514
00:23:01.720 --> 00:23:03.680
<v Speaker 3>shot to the butt and like she'd sell like and

515
00:23:03.720 --> 00:23:06.440
<v Speaker 3>it made sense and like you're like it was like

516
00:23:06.519 --> 00:23:08.599
<v Speaker 3>and it might have been like where the day the

517
00:23:08.599 --> 00:23:10.720
<v Speaker 3>theme of the day was like work a body part

518
00:23:10.759 --> 00:23:12.160
<v Speaker 3>type thing, and he kind of was like it was

519
00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:14.000
<v Speaker 3>kind of like an f you to Bill, and it's

520
00:23:14.000 --> 00:23:15.599
<v Speaker 3>super a few to Bill when all the boys are

521
00:23:15.599 --> 00:23:17.400
<v Speaker 3>popping for and he's sitting there with like a scowl,

522
00:23:17.400 --> 00:23:18.240
<v Speaker 3>like really pissed, you know.

523
00:23:18.279 --> 00:23:19.119
<v Speaker 4>But I'll never forget that.

524
00:23:19.279 --> 00:23:21.119
<v Speaker 3>There was also another one, and I'm sure Brosky Ramer

525
00:23:21.200 --> 00:23:25.880
<v Speaker 3>says Tommy Swayede versus Kenny Omega practice match where they

526
00:23:25.880 --> 00:23:28.000
<v Speaker 3>did like Japanese style, We're like kicking out of like

527
00:23:28.039 --> 00:23:30.599
<v Speaker 3>brainbusters on like one and like screaming and all the

528
00:23:30.640 --> 00:23:32.720
<v Speaker 3>boys all the boys are popping and shit and Bill

529
00:23:32.799 --> 00:23:34.599
<v Speaker 3>just hey did that shit?

530
00:23:35.519 --> 00:23:38.720
<v Speaker 1>I one match, one match that you can watch of hours.

531
00:23:38.759 --> 00:23:43.880
<v Speaker 1>It's somewhere on YouTube. It's when we win the OBW No, no,

532
00:23:43.920 --> 00:23:47.039
<v Speaker 1>we win the Deep South titles from Dus and Domino

533
00:23:47.079 --> 00:23:50.839
<v Speaker 1>who have both at the time, and that match I

534
00:23:50.960 --> 00:23:54.160
<v Speaker 1>got it onto Before the ww network, there was WWE

535
00:23:54.279 --> 00:23:55.319
<v Speaker 1>Classics on demand.

536
00:23:55.519 --> 00:23:56.079
<v Speaker 4>Do you remember that?

537
00:23:56.519 --> 00:23:57.240
<v Speaker 2>Yes, of course.

538
00:23:57.319 --> 00:24:00.680
<v Speaker 1>And I had a monthly show on They are called

539
00:24:00.920 --> 00:24:03.559
<v Speaker 1>like right in the Smack Dad Middle of the YouTube

540
00:24:03.599 --> 00:24:07.200
<v Speaker 1>show run, it was called like Long Island Ice three

541
00:24:07.359 --> 00:24:09.960
<v Speaker 1>or Zach Ryder's Ice three, and it was three matches

542
00:24:11.279 --> 00:24:14.200
<v Speaker 1>and on one of those shows, it's it's us winning

543
00:24:14.240 --> 00:24:17.160
<v Speaker 1>those tag team titles. So it must be on YouTube somewhere.

544
00:24:17.240 --> 00:24:18.119
<v Speaker 1>It's got to be somewhere.

545
00:24:18.200 --> 00:24:18.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's funny.

546
00:24:19.000 --> 00:24:21.480
<v Speaker 3>Memory after that match is like I think Mike Taylor,

547
00:24:21.559 --> 00:24:23.279
<v Speaker 3>like youat all the boys to rib us because we're

548
00:24:23.279 --> 00:24:26.759
<v Speaker 3>winning their tag titles, and he has them like slap

549
00:24:26.880 --> 00:24:28.400
<v Speaker 3>us all on the back as hard as they can,

550
00:24:28.480 --> 00:24:31.119
<v Speaker 3>like to congratulate us. But it's on TV and we're celebrating,

551
00:24:31.160 --> 00:24:33.079
<v Speaker 3>like going up the ramp, like holding the bells, but

552
00:24:33.119 --> 00:24:35.359
<v Speaker 3>the boys are just whacking us in our love handles

553
00:24:35.400 --> 00:24:36.960
<v Speaker 3>and shit like as hard as they can.

554
00:24:36.839 --> 00:24:38.839
<v Speaker 4>And like we're like no selling it. It's like brutal

555
00:24:38.839 --> 00:24:39.160
<v Speaker 4>as hell.

556
00:24:42.039 --> 00:24:44.039
<v Speaker 2>Uh. You know you brought up that thing about the

557
00:24:44.039 --> 00:24:49.079
<v Speaker 2>practice matches. It's really tough to pop the boys in

558
00:24:49.119 --> 00:24:53.920
<v Speaker 2>a practice match because you're just seeing fifteen matches a lot, right, Yeah.

559
00:24:54.400 --> 00:24:56.079
<v Speaker 2>So it's like I love.

560
00:24:55.960 --> 00:24:59.200
<v Speaker 4>It, like first matches and stuff like crazy, right, Like.

561
00:24:59.160 --> 00:25:02.480
<v Speaker 2>That favorite that cap is when somebody like brycet on him.

562
00:25:02.519 --> 00:25:06.000
<v Speaker 2>It'll put together some sort of really interesting, you know,

563
00:25:06.079 --> 00:25:07.880
<v Speaker 2>like out of the box thing and we're all just

564
00:25:07.960 --> 00:25:10.960
<v Speaker 2>losing it. That's like special cap.

565
00:25:11.000 --> 00:25:12.960
<v Speaker 4>Practice match ever, is when Mark quit in the middle

566
00:25:12.960 --> 00:25:13.240
<v Speaker 4>of the one.

567
00:25:13.400 --> 00:25:16.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh, that is the opposite of what we're talking about.

568
00:25:16.440 --> 00:25:18.400
<v Speaker 2>That was the artist Mart.

569
00:25:18.680 --> 00:25:20.599
<v Speaker 4>He's with like a really green person that he can't

570
00:25:20.599 --> 00:25:22.119
<v Speaker 4>get him to do like anything he wants to do.

571
00:25:22.160 --> 00:25:23.240
<v Speaker 4>And I finally Mark was just.

572
00:25:23.119 --> 00:25:26.160
<v Speaker 1>Like didn't like raged out of the ring.

573
00:25:26.200 --> 00:25:26.880
<v Speaker 4>It was like nuts.

574
00:25:28.000 --> 00:25:31.640
<v Speaker 2>We always talk about twice. It happened twice. Once I

575
00:25:32.160 --> 00:25:33.839
<v Speaker 2>I just laid down and let him pin me. The

576
00:25:33.880 --> 00:25:36.119
<v Speaker 2>other one was the other one I stopped.

577
00:25:36.519 --> 00:25:39.480
<v Speaker 3>The other awesome deep self practice match is Broski versus

578
00:25:39.559 --> 00:25:42.200
<v Speaker 3>Danny Inferno and he hits his head on the pole.

579
00:25:43.119 --> 00:25:47.079
<v Speaker 1>Uh, We've talked about that. I think I think like

580
00:25:47.079 --> 00:25:50.079
<v Speaker 1>a big stinger splash, hits his shoot. It's is that

581
00:25:50.200 --> 00:25:51.960
<v Speaker 1>on the pole, flips out of the ring, which got

582
00:25:51.960 --> 00:25:53.960
<v Speaker 1>a big pop. But then he does like the Vince

583
00:25:54.000 --> 00:25:56.920
<v Speaker 1>WrestleMania cell up from the apron when we realize he's

584
00:25:56.960 --> 00:26:00.319
<v Speaker 1>like a Crimson mask. I was so upset because ibviously

585
00:26:00.319 --> 00:26:02.279
<v Speaker 1>that wasn't on TV, and then the only other time

586
00:26:02.400 --> 00:26:05.960
<v Speaker 1>I bleed, like of course, like busted limp whatever, But

587
00:26:06.200 --> 00:26:11.559
<v Speaker 1>like significantly, We're wrestling Mizzen Morrison on either ECW or SmackDown,

588
00:26:11.559 --> 00:26:14.960
<v Speaker 1>but it's taped and they do something where I'm like

589
00:26:15.079 --> 00:26:18.680
<v Speaker 1>sitting markting pictures. I'm sitting down, but my legs are

590
00:26:18.720 --> 00:26:21.400
<v Speaker 1>inside the ring, but my body's outside the ring, and

591
00:26:21.440 --> 00:26:23.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm like sitting so like my butt's on the apron,

592
00:26:23.440 --> 00:26:25.279
<v Speaker 1>my legs are the inside, and my chest is against

593
00:26:25.319 --> 00:26:29.160
<v Speaker 1>like the ropes, and Morrison does some like sling shot

594
00:26:29.319 --> 00:26:32.799
<v Speaker 1>drop kick thing hits me fine, but when I bumped back,

595
00:26:32.920 --> 00:26:34.759
<v Speaker 1>I hit the metal beam of the ring in the

596
00:26:34.759 --> 00:26:38.599
<v Speaker 1>back of my head, so I started like gushing blood

597
00:26:39.160 --> 00:26:41.799
<v Speaker 1>and we finished the match but like they edit around.

598
00:26:41.599 --> 00:26:43.640
<v Speaker 4>It, so it's like an unreal job editing it.

599
00:26:43.680 --> 00:26:46.799
<v Speaker 1>Like that's something like we could have used like for

600
00:26:46.880 --> 00:26:50.720
<v Speaker 1>sympathy big time, you know, but it's like totally edited out.

601
00:26:50.920 --> 00:26:54.160
<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's crazy. And also, for the record, we had

602
00:26:54.160 --> 00:26:57.160
<v Speaker 2>a lot of really dangerous things planned for the rest

603
00:26:57.160 --> 00:26:59.559
<v Speaker 2>of the match, like with that kid, and I was

604
00:26:59.839 --> 00:27:01.880
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't get him to like reverse a superlex and

605
00:27:01.920 --> 00:27:03.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yeah, I'm not trusting him to throw me

606
00:27:03.720 --> 00:27:06.480
<v Speaker 2>into the buckle later. No, f and way, That's why I.

607
00:27:06.440 --> 00:27:09.359
<v Speaker 4>Just quit, just to see Mark Rage Rage quit.

608
00:27:10.200 --> 00:27:12.759
<v Speaker 2>Suplex me, suplex me, suplex me, sup plex me, suplex me.

609
00:27:14.000 --> 00:27:14.920
<v Speaker 4>Alright, the best.

610
00:27:15.200 --> 00:27:18.160
<v Speaker 2>Also, Steven Thornton says, also was there any gimmick from

611
00:27:18.200 --> 00:27:22.079
<v Speaker 2>the developmental that you think would have been great a

612
00:27:22.119 --> 00:27:24.400
<v Speaker 2>great figure but was never seen in the main roster?

613
00:27:24.559 --> 00:27:25.240
<v Speaker 2>Great question?

614
00:27:25.960 --> 00:27:27.920
<v Speaker 4>Freaking deacon, freaking deacon?

615
00:27:28.839 --> 00:27:31.440
<v Speaker 2>What exactly can you tell me? What exactly is the

616
00:27:31.480 --> 00:27:32.039
<v Speaker 2>freaking Deacon?

617
00:27:32.039 --> 00:27:35.279
<v Speaker 1>Because it's also like missing link. I can't even describe

618
00:27:35.279 --> 00:27:35.839
<v Speaker 1>what he is.

619
00:27:35.880 --> 00:27:39.400
<v Speaker 4>Bruiser Brody meets the missing Link, I would say.

620
00:27:39.240 --> 00:27:41.119
<v Speaker 1>And he's got like a pet spider, but now he

621
00:27:41.920 --> 00:27:44.519
<v Speaker 1>not like an Eric Rowan fake spiders, like a real.

622
00:27:44.319 --> 00:27:47.480
<v Speaker 3>Spider, shoot pet spider that he would like put in

623
00:27:47.480 --> 00:27:49.839
<v Speaker 3>his mouth and do all this like creepy stuff with

624
00:27:50.039 --> 00:27:52.200
<v Speaker 3>the spider's name was Willow. And I think he went

625
00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:54.400
<v Speaker 3>through like five of them because he was just not

626
00:27:54.480 --> 00:27:57.039
<v Speaker 3>a good caretaker. But and what he put in his

627
00:27:57.039 --> 00:27:58.880
<v Speaker 3>mouth one time, it like stung him or bit him

628
00:27:58.920 --> 00:27:59.160
<v Speaker 3>or something.

629
00:27:59.200 --> 00:28:00.000
<v Speaker 4>He go to the hospital.

630
00:28:01.319 --> 00:28:04.240
<v Speaker 1>I think, Yeah, I think a high impact. We talked

631
00:28:04.279 --> 00:28:06.599
<v Speaker 1>about them before, Mike Taylor and Tony Santarelli. I think

632
00:28:06.599 --> 00:28:08.759
<v Speaker 1>they should have been called up. They were like, I

633
00:28:08.759 --> 00:28:11.279
<v Speaker 1>think they could have been the next hardy boys, next rockers.

634
00:28:11.319 --> 00:28:13.400
<v Speaker 1>They were doing like the extreme sports kind of gimmick,

635
00:28:13.480 --> 00:28:16.279
<v Speaker 1>like Mike was a surfer and Tony was a BMX spiker,

636
00:28:16.319 --> 00:28:18.160
<v Speaker 1>so they were in like poor shores and BMX and

637
00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:20.119
<v Speaker 1>again like mohawks and dyed hair and.

638
00:28:20.240 --> 00:28:21.119
<v Speaker 4>Very kid friendly.

639
00:28:21.359 --> 00:28:24.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think they would have been great figures as well.

640
00:28:24.279 --> 00:28:25.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah you see that with Darby Ellen.

641
00:28:25.640 --> 00:28:30.119
<v Speaker 3>Now basically yeah, and we we we said a couple episodes,

642
00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:32.319
<v Speaker 3>we took a lot from them, like with how they

643
00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:34.640
<v Speaker 3>were as you know, because they were way more polished

644
00:28:34.680 --> 00:28:35.440
<v Speaker 3>than we were at the time.

645
00:28:35.480 --> 00:28:35.720
<v Speaker 4>You know.

646
00:28:36.240 --> 00:28:38.720
<v Speaker 2>All right, here's this one this is from uh Mark Mattel.

647
00:28:39.279 --> 00:28:42.240
<v Speaker 2>What who who had in all of your time in

648
00:28:42.279 --> 00:28:46.400
<v Speaker 2>Deep South? Who had the absolute biggest best physique?

649
00:28:49.000 --> 00:28:49.880
<v Speaker 1>Tommy Swade.

650
00:28:50.279 --> 00:28:52.960
<v Speaker 4>Tommy Swade was jacked in Deep South for sure? Right?

651
00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:54.160
<v Speaker 4>Is he number one deep South?

652
00:28:54.440 --> 00:28:58.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean yeah, I mean we weren't there Crew Jones,

653
00:28:58.359 --> 00:28:58.720
<v Speaker 1>but he was.

654
00:28:58.880 --> 00:29:00.000
<v Speaker 4>He wasn't signed, he wasn't sign.

655
00:29:00.160 --> 00:29:02.160
<v Speaker 1>I would say Deep South. Tommy Swade, who's still to

656
00:29:02.200 --> 00:29:03.440
<v Speaker 1>this day has a great physique.

657
00:29:03.519 --> 00:29:05.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't even know that is.

658
00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:09.720
<v Speaker 4>Crewe Jones was a.

659
00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:12.319
<v Speaker 1>Here's here's here's here's a Tommy Swade story. So Tommy

660
00:29:12.319 --> 00:29:16.279
<v Speaker 1>Swayde I think he'll tell you as well, didn't have

661
00:29:16.359 --> 00:29:20.119
<v Speaker 1>the best personality, you know what I'm saying. So he

662
00:29:20.319 --> 00:29:23.799
<v Speaker 1>started doing this gimmick or was pitching this gimmick before

663
00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:27.559
<v Speaker 1>Deadpool was a thing. He basically ripped off Deadpool and

664
00:29:27.680 --> 00:29:30.920
<v Speaker 1>was like the Deadpool mass. Remember this, Brian has all

665
00:29:31.000 --> 00:29:33.720
<v Speaker 1>this and that that was his his like not his

666
00:29:33.880 --> 00:29:36.640
<v Speaker 1>last ditch attempt, but ended up being his last attempt.

667
00:29:36.759 --> 00:29:38.920
<v Speaker 1>And he goes to ov W because they did like

668
00:29:38.920 --> 00:29:41.039
<v Speaker 1>a little like trade every once in a while to

669
00:29:41.160 --> 00:29:43.400
<v Speaker 1>like get people to feel out the different environment.

670
00:29:43.720 --> 00:29:47.160
<v Speaker 2>Man, that depressing like somebody get your buddy gets traded.

671
00:29:47.240 --> 00:29:49.200
<v Speaker 1>You're like, no, no, this wasn't for real. This was

672
00:29:49.240 --> 00:29:52.000
<v Speaker 1>just for like a two.

673
00:29:51.759 --> 00:29:54.200
<v Speaker 3>Three week trade stuff like that, Right, That's what we

674
00:29:54.240 --> 00:29:56.119
<v Speaker 3>wanted to do in OVW, And we were supposed to go.

675
00:29:56.559 --> 00:29:58.839
<v Speaker 1>We were supposed to go. We're supposed to gost Cody

676
00:29:58.880 --> 00:30:00.359
<v Speaker 1>and Spears and do like no, they were supposed to

677
00:30:00.359 --> 00:30:02.000
<v Speaker 1>they were supposed to come here, and I think they

678
00:30:02.559 --> 00:30:04.839
<v Speaker 1>were coming to the South. We filmed vignettes for it,

679
00:30:04.839 --> 00:30:08.279
<v Speaker 1>a promo choice. So anyway, so Tommy swayde he goes

680
00:30:08.359 --> 00:30:11.640
<v Speaker 1>to ob W. Now ob W was treated a lot

681
00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:14.319
<v Speaker 1>differently than Deep South, where people like the W writers

682
00:30:14.319 --> 00:30:17.759
<v Speaker 1>would like really a be there be like care about it.

683
00:30:17.759 --> 00:30:19.359
<v Speaker 1>So he's he's about to go do this match with

684
00:30:19.880 --> 00:30:25.440
<v Speaker 1>gimmick that much? Yeah, okay, it was all kind of whatever.

685
00:30:25.559 --> 00:30:27.799
<v Speaker 1>So he anyway, long story short, he goes to pitch

686
00:30:27.839 --> 00:30:30.160
<v Speaker 1>this new gimmy to show off this new gimmick. I

687
00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:32.559
<v Speaker 1>feel like the writer, the W writers were there for this,

688
00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:36.480
<v Speaker 1>show off this new Deadpool gimmick and fucking road kill

689
00:30:37.200 --> 00:30:39.759
<v Speaker 1>as a rib takes his mask so he has to wrestle.

690
00:30:39.799 --> 00:30:44.680
<v Speaker 1>Is just good old Tommy Swade, oh man, and then

691
00:30:44.680 --> 00:30:48.920
<v Speaker 1>he gets fired, damn road kill and he gets he

692
00:30:48.960 --> 00:30:51.880
<v Speaker 1>gets fired where we're eating with him at I believe

693
00:30:51.880 --> 00:30:55.039
<v Speaker 1>it's cracker Ball, right, yes, and then so I don't

694
00:30:55.079 --> 00:30:58.039
<v Speaker 1>know who gets fired first, but Brouchi's calls like, oh wait,

695
00:30:58.240 --> 00:31:00.799
<v Speaker 1>you're with Tony said there ahead phone.

696
00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:04.319
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there was like a black Saturday deep South.

697
00:31:04.319 --> 00:31:07.359
<v Speaker 3>This is when Bill finally got fired and everything, and

698
00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:09.960
<v Speaker 3>we were just chilling, like having a nice little hungover

699
00:31:10.279 --> 00:31:15.680
<v Speaker 3>you know, cracker barrel brunch, right, how how un corporate

700
00:31:15.759 --> 00:31:18.319
<v Speaker 3>is that? Just ahead of the phone, past the phone?

701
00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Wait, why were you talking to him?

702
00:31:20.359 --> 00:31:20.640
<v Speaker 4>No?

703
00:31:20.640 --> 00:31:22.680
<v Speaker 3>No, no, the four of us are at the me Broski,

704
00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:26.319
<v Speaker 3>Tony Santarelli, Tommy Swayde's right. I don't remember who gets

705
00:31:26.319 --> 00:31:28.599
<v Speaker 3>called first, but it's Mike Bouchie like, hey, sorry, man,

706
00:31:28.720 --> 00:31:29.240
<v Speaker 3>you're fired.

707
00:31:29.599 --> 00:31:30.160
<v Speaker 4>What are you doing?

708
00:31:30.160 --> 00:31:30.799
<v Speaker 1>Oh your Crackerball?

709
00:31:30.839 --> 00:31:34.000
<v Speaker 4>Who's there? Oh? Oh Santarelli? You mind just giving him

710
00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:34.279
<v Speaker 4>the phone?

711
00:31:34.319 --> 00:31:35.720
<v Speaker 3>And he just hands this phone over when he gets

712
00:31:35.720 --> 00:31:37.599
<v Speaker 3>fired too, with Tommy Swayde's phone.

713
00:31:38.559 --> 00:31:45.759
<v Speaker 4>Jesus the Wild Wild West bro Oh my god, every

714
00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:47.880
<v Speaker 4>single aspect Joe Basquez.

715
00:31:47.920 --> 00:31:50.279
<v Speaker 2>What were some of the other characters that were pitched

716
00:31:50.279 --> 00:31:53.839
<v Speaker 2>to WW writers. When they came down, anything stick out

717
00:31:54.000 --> 00:31:56.079
<v Speaker 2>as really good or really bad. So maybe something you

718
00:31:56.079 --> 00:31:56.799
<v Speaker 2>haven't talked.

719
00:31:56.559 --> 00:32:01.680
<v Speaker 1>About for't actually talked to my head due Brad Jay

720
00:32:01.759 --> 00:32:04.240
<v Speaker 1>want to be Randy Orton's best friend, or like the

721
00:32:04.279 --> 00:32:08.920
<v Speaker 1>fake JBL fake JBL every month. Uh that's what the

722
00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:10.839
<v Speaker 1>doll metals four if they're not using it. Like I

723
00:32:10.920 --> 00:32:12.680
<v Speaker 1>agree though, right, So that's like the way you're supposed

724
00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:14.519
<v Speaker 1>to Like how many times the Dillinger changes is gonna

725
00:32:14.519 --> 00:32:15.759
<v Speaker 1>make until it becomes the perfect ten?

726
00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:16.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

727
00:32:16.119 --> 00:32:20.880
<v Speaker 3>You know so, uh, long story short, these writers would

728
00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:24.240
<v Speaker 3>come down kind of a brutal scenario, like you cut

729
00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:25.839
<v Speaker 3>a promo in front of like, you know, the seven

730
00:32:25.880 --> 00:32:28.160
<v Speaker 3>eight Riders and they sit there in silence. Then you

731
00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:30.920
<v Speaker 3>have a match in front of them, which really doesn't

732
00:32:31.160 --> 00:32:33.200
<v Speaker 3>do you any justice because they don't know, like wrestling

733
00:32:33.240 --> 00:32:36.279
<v Speaker 3>writers don't know like wrestling Matt, you know what I mean,

734
00:32:36.519 --> 00:32:38.359
<v Speaker 3>and especially in front of nobody, like it's so hard

735
00:32:38.359 --> 00:32:41.720
<v Speaker 3>to impress. But anyway that we did that and then

736
00:32:41.759 --> 00:32:43.599
<v Speaker 3>we had like a little pow wow like after like

737
00:32:43.640 --> 00:32:45.240
<v Speaker 3>we're all just kind of like hanging out talking to them,

738
00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:48.079
<v Speaker 3>shooting the shit whatever. In passing, one of the writers

739
00:32:48.119 --> 00:32:49.880
<v Speaker 3>said like, oh, yeah, you're a big guy. I could

740
00:32:49.920 --> 00:32:52.519
<v Speaker 3>see you being like like maybe like Randy Orton's best

741
00:32:52.519 --> 00:32:56.200
<v Speaker 3>friend or something like that. So a normal person would

742
00:32:56.200 --> 00:32:58.720
<v Speaker 3>take that as like you'd forget about it. It's just like, Okay,

743
00:32:58.720 --> 00:33:00.720
<v Speaker 3>that's something I could think about. Or what set my

744
00:33:01.240 --> 00:33:03.480
<v Speaker 3>brad ja went around to everyone going would they say

745
00:33:03.519 --> 00:33:05.319
<v Speaker 3>to you? Well, guess what they said to me, I'm

746
00:33:05.319 --> 00:33:09.400
<v Speaker 3>gonna be ready your best front? Me Ready's best front.

747
00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:13.759
<v Speaker 3>And then like the weeks after that, I remember like

748
00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:15.319
<v Speaker 3>we'd all cut our promos that we'd send to the

749
00:33:15.359 --> 00:33:19.119
<v Speaker 3>office and he'd be like, who Randy be brad best front?

750
00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:24.960
<v Speaker 4>Like it just brutal. He just took it to too literally.

751
00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:25.240
<v Speaker 4>You know.

752
00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:31.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh God, Jojo, from being fans as kids and making

753
00:33:31.240 --> 00:33:34.960
<v Speaker 2>it in the business, has being professional wrestlers changed your

754
00:33:35.000 --> 00:33:37.039
<v Speaker 2>love of wrestling in any way? I guess that's not

755
00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:38.279
<v Speaker 2>really a developmental question.

756
00:33:39.000 --> 00:33:42.240
<v Speaker 1>No, I mean no, yes, and no, Like I still

757
00:33:42.279 --> 00:33:44.720
<v Speaker 1>love wrestling and I love like old school stuff, the

758
00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:47.279
<v Speaker 1>stuff we grew up on and and doing this podcast

759
00:33:47.720 --> 00:33:49.440
<v Speaker 1>and talking about the figures and the stuff I played

760
00:33:49.480 --> 00:33:53.200
<v Speaker 1>with definitely is such a you know, made me not

761
00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:54.839
<v Speaker 1>noth nothing ever fell out of it. But made me

762
00:33:54.880 --> 00:33:56.960
<v Speaker 1>remember why I fell in love with it. That makes sense.

763
00:33:57.480 --> 00:33:59.960
<v Speaker 1>But for instance, like I don't know when this episode's

764
00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:02.799
<v Speaker 1>gonna drop, But on the latest mc drolling out of

765
00:34:02.799 --> 00:34:06.319
<v Speaker 1>the story, Mark is baffled that there's a WW event

766
00:34:06.720 --> 00:34:08.360
<v Speaker 1>a pay per view and I'm not booked on it

767
00:34:08.400 --> 00:34:09.800
<v Speaker 1>and I didn't order it on pay per view and

768
00:34:09.840 --> 00:34:13.000
<v Speaker 1>watch it, like I mean with the net, like in

769
00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:15.440
<v Speaker 1>the non network case, Mucket's been thirty bucks to watch

770
00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:17.280
<v Speaker 1>a pay per view. I'm not on when you say.

771
00:34:17.079 --> 00:34:19.760
<v Speaker 2>It like that, like order the pay per view by

772
00:34:19.800 --> 00:34:22.199
<v Speaker 2>yourself and whatever. In my mind, I'm like, oh, they

773
00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:24.159
<v Speaker 2>must just like get together and watch it or something.

774
00:34:24.199 --> 00:34:26.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I mean, we still watch pay per views.

775
00:34:26.559 --> 00:34:27.960
<v Speaker 2>I watched the shit out of wrestling.

776
00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:31.519
<v Speaker 3>I think the number one perk of this podcast is

777
00:34:31.599 --> 00:34:34.960
<v Speaker 3>that I'm constantly being reminded of why this is why

778
00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:36.039
<v Speaker 3>I did this in the first place.

779
00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:37.239
<v Speaker 4>You know, I think that's great.

780
00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:41.440
<v Speaker 3>And I I've always told myself, like, if you're not

781
00:34:41.920 --> 00:34:44.400
<v Speaker 3>in love with wrestling, you really shouldn't do it because

782
00:34:44.440 --> 00:34:48.320
<v Speaker 3>it's so difficult and strange and hard and tough on

783
00:34:48.400 --> 00:34:50.639
<v Speaker 3>your family and the traveling and your body. Like there's

784
00:34:50.639 --> 00:34:53.960
<v Speaker 3>so many nets tough business. It's a tough business of families.

785
00:34:55.800 --> 00:34:58.119
<v Speaker 3>But like, so why would you do it? Just work

786
00:34:58.159 --> 00:35:00.159
<v Speaker 3>at fucking Starbucks or something then, you know, I I mean,

787
00:35:00.239 --> 00:35:02.880
<v Speaker 3>like it's just there's so much goes into us. If

788
00:35:02.880 --> 00:35:05.719
<v Speaker 3>you don't have passion for it, it just makes no sense,

789
00:35:05.920 --> 00:35:06.079
<v Speaker 3>you know.

790
00:35:06.239 --> 00:35:12.719
<v Speaker 2>Oh, of course, Steve Fiano worst Make a Deal Friday.

791
00:35:12.760 --> 00:35:15.239
<v Speaker 2>You saw we talked about the make a Deal Fridays.

792
00:35:15.360 --> 00:35:16.880
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I don't think there's any worse than the

793
00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:19.559
<v Speaker 4>jelly donut Zally donut thing is as bad as it gets.

794
00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:22.760
<v Speaker 4>The beatdown shit was pretty bad though, like when he

795
00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:24.519
<v Speaker 4>just blow you up until you couldn't move and then

796
00:35:24.559 --> 00:35:25.079
<v Speaker 4>sit on you.

797
00:35:26.039 --> 00:35:29.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but like I don't think anything was really like

798
00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:32.960
<v Speaker 1>that bad. From an outsider, I understand me sitting in

799
00:35:33.000 --> 00:35:36.079
<v Speaker 1>the corner, another woman in the corner with jelly donuts

800
00:35:36.079 --> 00:35:38.760
<v Speaker 1>getting think faced into their face. Okay, that's bad, but

801
00:35:38.880 --> 00:35:41.719
<v Speaker 1>like it was all good fun, which is crazy to say.

802
00:35:41.800 --> 00:35:45.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, before our time, I've heard Gallows and the guys

803
00:35:45.079 --> 00:35:48.079
<v Speaker 3>tell me the story that they took, like I can't

804
00:35:48.079 --> 00:35:50.599
<v Speaker 3>remember them some kind of ridiculous number in squats and

805
00:35:50.599 --> 00:35:53.960
<v Speaker 3>then they could leave just free squatting and they for

806
00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:56.480
<v Speaker 3>some reason were so like just I think fried.

807
00:35:56.559 --> 00:35:58.960
<v Speaker 4>They thought, okay, that's gonna be easier than like bumping,

808
00:35:59.039 --> 00:36:01.920
<v Speaker 4>and then they were like ruined everybody's weekend, like they

809
00:36:01.920 --> 00:36:02.599
<v Speaker 4>couldn't even walk.

810
00:36:03.239 --> 00:36:09.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, Andrew e Hurst, what's the biggest crowd pop

811
00:36:10.039 --> 00:36:12.519
<v Speaker 2>you guys got during developmental?

812
00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:16.320
<v Speaker 1>Interesting question, Not many people there to get a big pop.

813
00:36:16.360 --> 00:36:17.480
<v Speaker 1>Maybe winning the tag.

814
00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:19.719
<v Speaker 4>Titles, winning the titles as six flags.

815
00:36:21.320 --> 00:36:21.719
<v Speaker 1>Bigger.

816
00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:25.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there was a bigger winning the deep sub titles

817
00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:28.360
<v Speaker 3>the second time at that the Jackson High School because

818
00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:29.480
<v Speaker 3>that's very close to Gallow's house.

819
00:36:29.519 --> 00:36:32.119
<v Speaker 1>That's why I know that, But it doesn't something weird happened.

820
00:36:32.159 --> 00:36:35.760
<v Speaker 1>There were like the Gem and I are supposed to

821
00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:37.559
<v Speaker 1>be in the match or maybe the chance, but that's

822
00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:40.679
<v Speaker 1>that that Black Saturday, they get fired. Yes, so it's

823
00:36:40.719 --> 00:36:42.719
<v Speaker 1>like Regal has to come and it's like legal Dave

824
00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:43.440
<v Speaker 1>Taylor l.

825
00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:48.480
<v Speaker 3>And Dave Taylor versus US versus offa Junior and Sunny

826
00:36:48.480 --> 00:36:50.079
<v Speaker 3>Siaki Weird.

827
00:36:50.519 --> 00:36:53.039
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember that match being like any good.

828
00:36:53.199 --> 00:36:54.800
<v Speaker 3>I remember being good, but I remember like we're the

829
00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:56.400
<v Speaker 3>only baby faces of the crowd popped.

830
00:36:57.199 --> 00:36:57.880
<v Speaker 4>That's all.

831
00:36:59.199 --> 00:37:01.440
<v Speaker 2>Jim and I got fired and developmental though.

832
00:37:01.239 --> 00:37:04.320
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, well they were doing both. I guess they

833
00:37:04.320 --> 00:37:09.280
<v Speaker 3>went back so like they were doing both. That's who

834
00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:12.159
<v Speaker 3>beat us for the wait, don't they beat us for

835
00:37:12.239 --> 00:37:14.719
<v Speaker 3>the tag titles? That's how we lost them the first time?

836
00:37:17.400 --> 00:37:19.760
<v Speaker 3>Maybe remember I don't remember. Did we ever lose them

837
00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:20.360
<v Speaker 3>a second though?

838
00:37:20.840 --> 00:37:22.960
<v Speaker 1>Of course I would have had to belt right now, I.

839
00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:23.280
<v Speaker 4>Know, right?

840
00:37:23.280 --> 00:37:24.880
<v Speaker 1>So who beat this man? I don't that's say it.

841
00:37:24.920 --> 00:37:29.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, all right, Joe Ellis, can you tell

842
00:37:29.159 --> 00:37:31.119
<v Speaker 2>us this is an interesting question. Can you tell us

843
00:37:31.119 --> 00:37:34.039
<v Speaker 2>about a moment early in WW or what was the

844
00:37:34.039 --> 00:37:36.119
<v Speaker 2>moment that you said to yourself, Wow, I made it?

845
00:37:37.480 --> 00:37:37.880
<v Speaker 4>Did you?

846
00:37:37.920 --> 00:37:41.039
<v Speaker 2>Did you? There's like, ah, there's the moment you think like,

847
00:37:41.119 --> 00:37:42.639
<v Speaker 2>well it's done when you get signed.

848
00:37:42.800 --> 00:37:45.000
<v Speaker 1>And I don't think it was until the Edgeheads thing,

849
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:48.800
<v Speaker 1>because the Major brothers were so like, oh my god.

850
00:37:49.239 --> 00:37:51.639
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we were making no money, which people don't like

851
00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:52.800
<v Speaker 3>find very hard to believe.

852
00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:55.960
<v Speaker 4>But we weren't because.

853
00:37:55.719 --> 00:37:58.679
<v Speaker 3>If you once you you know, minus expenses and stuff like,

854
00:37:59.199 --> 00:38:03.679
<v Speaker 3>the contract was so minimal. Yeah, and we were just

855
00:38:03.679 --> 00:38:04.400
<v Speaker 3>touched to bronze.

856
00:38:04.440 --> 00:38:04.519
<v Speaker 4>No.

857
00:38:04.800 --> 00:38:06.199
<v Speaker 3>The first thing I came to mind when you said

858
00:38:06.199 --> 00:38:08.239
<v Speaker 3>that though, And I don't know. Broski will agree with this.

859
00:38:09.199 --> 00:38:14.000
<v Speaker 3>After Elimination Chamber two thousand and eight in Vegas, Bautista

860
00:38:14.039 --> 00:38:17.559
<v Speaker 3>invited all the boys out to this club and we

861
00:38:17.599 --> 00:38:21.000
<v Speaker 3>had like VIP drinking Cristal all night. He was like

862
00:38:21.639 --> 00:38:23.360
<v Speaker 3>maybe the one and only time I saw a human

863
00:38:23.400 --> 00:38:25.639
<v Speaker 3>actually make it rain Like Batista was like throwing.

864
00:38:25.360 --> 00:38:29.000
<v Speaker 1>A dollars, not only bro I remember he got like

865
00:38:29.159 --> 00:38:32.039
<v Speaker 1>bottles of the champagne right and just picked it up.

866
00:38:32.159 --> 00:38:35.159
<v Speaker 1>They just dumped it out. I danced and dumped it

867
00:38:35.199 --> 00:38:37.480
<v Speaker 1>back into the ice bucket. That's the coolest thing I've

868
00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:37.880
<v Speaker 1>ever seen.

869
00:38:37.920 --> 00:38:39.679
<v Speaker 3>It was like all the boys and it's just like

870
00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:42.400
<v Speaker 3>I did feel like cool at that point, or like,

871
00:38:42.519 --> 00:38:45.400
<v Speaker 3>you know, at least like I had made it. And

872
00:38:45.440 --> 00:38:46.840
<v Speaker 3>then I also saw him sign off on.

873
00:38:46.840 --> 00:38:48.559
<v Speaker 4>The bill that night, and my eyes bugged out of

874
00:38:48.559 --> 00:38:50.880
<v Speaker 4>my head because it was like one third of my

875
00:38:51.039 --> 00:38:52.159
<v Speaker 4>like year.

876
00:38:54.599 --> 00:38:56.159
<v Speaker 2>And back to the money thing. So you guys, you

877
00:38:56.159 --> 00:38:57.639
<v Speaker 2>said you were making five hundred.

878
00:38:57.400 --> 00:39:00.599
<v Speaker 4>A week right in developmental, So that.

879
00:39:00.639 --> 00:39:05.000
<v Speaker 2>Is twenty six thousand a year, which is I mean,

880
00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:08.440
<v Speaker 2>even with inflation, is a starting an entry level position.

881
00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:11.440
<v Speaker 3>And then we got called up and people don't believe this,

882
00:39:11.480 --> 00:39:15.039
<v Speaker 3>but our main roster road contracts were seventy five thousand.

883
00:39:15.599 --> 00:39:16.800
<v Speaker 1>Well, first it's fifty two.

884
00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:20.199
<v Speaker 3>Oh you're right, it's fifty two. And that's minus hotels,

885
00:39:20.639 --> 00:39:23.320
<v Speaker 3>car like all that stuff. So we're make almost like

886
00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:25.480
<v Speaker 3>less than Deep South and the Edge Shed thing basically

887
00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:27.199
<v Speaker 3>just saved our our lives and.

888
00:39:27.199 --> 00:39:30.280
<v Speaker 2>Careers because it adds dates and bigger space dates.

889
00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:34.519
<v Speaker 1>Didn't change the contract. But it's a downside contract right over. Yeah,

890
00:39:34.519 --> 00:39:37.320
<v Speaker 1>but it's the whole contracting is confusing because yes, it's

891
00:39:37.320 --> 00:39:40.360
<v Speaker 1>your downside, but the amount you get paid is based

892
00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:43.000
<v Speaker 1>on your downside number, you know what I'm saying.

893
00:39:43.679 --> 00:39:46.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Like, if they I always say this, if they

894
00:39:46.079 --> 00:39:48.000
<v Speaker 3>look at like a Mark Henry contract that's got like,

895
00:39:48.079 --> 00:39:49.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, one hundreds of thousands of dollars, they're like, okay,

896
00:39:49.920 --> 00:39:51.440
<v Speaker 3>we have to get Mark on the road and use them.

897
00:39:51.599 --> 00:39:53.280
<v Speaker 3>They're looking at our GABRONI shit, and they're like, oh,

898
00:39:53.280 --> 00:39:54.960
<v Speaker 3>we can leave the major brothers at home because who cares,

899
00:39:55.039 --> 00:39:56.280
<v Speaker 3>we don't know them any money, you know.

900
00:39:56.559 --> 00:39:58.480
<v Speaker 1>Or also what they'll pay you per show because they

901
00:39:58.480 --> 00:40:01.920
<v Speaker 1>want to add up to that number too. Yeah, right,

902
00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:04.000
<v Speaker 1>and it's all like make believe you know what I'm saying,

903
00:40:04.000 --> 00:40:04.440
<v Speaker 1>there's no.

904
00:40:04.360 --> 00:40:06.280
<v Speaker 4>Formula if they want to use it, they'll use it.

905
00:40:06.280 --> 00:40:07.079
<v Speaker 4>They don't. They don't.

906
00:40:07.519 --> 00:40:09.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the money thing is so they're trying to if

907
00:40:09.079 --> 00:40:10.880
<v Speaker 3>they're trying to save some money, that's what they do.

908
00:40:11.000 --> 00:40:11.199
<v Speaker 4>You know.

909
00:40:12.079 --> 00:40:15.079
<v Speaker 2>The weirdest thing is like it's it's arbitrary, like your

910
00:40:15.119 --> 00:40:17.519
<v Speaker 2>spot on the card versus the whatever.

911
00:40:17.599 --> 00:40:20.599
<v Speaker 1>It's so bullshit. So like one year, like I guess

912
00:40:20.599 --> 00:40:23.159
<v Speaker 1>it was maybe two or three years ago, like I

913
00:40:23.360 --> 00:40:26.599
<v Speaker 1>wasn't going to it was like, I just got back

914
00:40:26.639 --> 00:40:30.960
<v Speaker 1>from the my knee injury. So what year is that,

915
00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:34.760
<v Speaker 1>twenty seventeen. I just get back and I'm like, we're

916
00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:38.280
<v Speaker 1>not I'm back with Mojoe. We're not really doing anything.

917
00:40:38.320 --> 00:40:40.199
<v Speaker 1>And I have to be like, guys, like we need

918
00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:42.039
<v Speaker 1>to talk about this contract thing because I was making

919
00:40:42.039 --> 00:40:44.079
<v Speaker 1>more money sitting at home injured than I am now

920
00:40:44.119 --> 00:40:46.199
<v Speaker 1>on the road. Because now they weren't bringing to me.

921
00:40:46.280 --> 00:40:47.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, we weren't doing live events. I'm just getting

922
00:40:47.880 --> 00:40:51.360
<v Speaker 1>the whatever, five hundred at SmackDown seven fifty, maybe a thousand,

923
00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:54.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, for one a week. I'm like that's not enough.

924
00:40:55.320 --> 00:40:57.599
<v Speaker 1>So they gave me like a higher downside. But then

925
00:40:57.639 --> 00:40:59.719
<v Speaker 1>by the end of that next year, they weren't using

926
00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:02.679
<v Speaker 1>me enough to get me to that downside, So like

927
00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:05.519
<v Speaker 1>for a raw, i'd get like with a couple of

928
00:41:05.519 --> 00:41:07.559
<v Speaker 1>weeks left in my contract, I would get like six

929
00:41:07.639 --> 00:41:10.440
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars because now they're trying to add up to

930
00:41:10.480 --> 00:41:11.920
<v Speaker 1>that number, so they're not just giving.

931
00:41:11.920 --> 00:41:13.360
<v Speaker 4>That money anyway, So they don't want to owe you

932
00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:15.039
<v Speaker 4>a pen anymore, you know, well.

933
00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:17.039
<v Speaker 1>Because they don't want to make it seem like they're

934
00:41:17.079 --> 00:41:18.480
<v Speaker 1>giving me a because if I didn't get to that

935
00:41:18.559 --> 00:41:20.000
<v Speaker 1>number at the end of the year, they would have

936
00:41:20.199 --> 00:41:23.000
<v Speaker 1>to just write me a check, you know.

937
00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:23.400
<v Speaker 4>What I'm saying.

938
00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:27.280
<v Speaker 1>So they wanted to get me there so they'll it's

939
00:41:27.320 --> 00:41:29.360
<v Speaker 1>all make believe. Really, I mean, the money is real,

940
00:41:29.400 --> 00:41:30.280
<v Speaker 1>but the way they get there.

941
00:41:30.199 --> 00:41:32.360
<v Speaker 3>And then it's also the way you choose to get paid.

942
00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:35.960
<v Speaker 3>So Broskio always got paid what he got. I like

943
00:41:36.039 --> 00:41:39.320
<v Speaker 3>to get my same weekly check my whole second run there,

944
00:41:39.559 --> 00:41:42.280
<v Speaker 3>so I got the same check every you know, every

945
00:41:42.320 --> 00:41:44.400
<v Speaker 3>week whatever, the same time, same check, And I just

946
00:41:44.400 --> 00:41:46.599
<v Speaker 3>thought it was a little bit more secure way to live.

947
00:41:46.760 --> 00:41:47.079
<v Speaker 2>Sure.

948
00:41:47.159 --> 00:41:50.079
<v Speaker 3>And then in my last run, every time every year,

949
00:41:50.159 --> 00:41:54.559
<v Speaker 3>like my year came up, they my downside was nothing spectacular,

950
00:41:54.599 --> 00:41:56.239
<v Speaker 3>but I'd work so much over it. I would always

951
00:41:56.239 --> 00:41:58.199
<v Speaker 3>get these, Like I'd wake up on one Saturday and

952
00:41:58.280 --> 00:42:01.239
<v Speaker 3>it's like, crazy, deposit be in my you know, direct

953
00:42:01.239 --> 00:42:04.639
<v Speaker 3>deposit all three four years in a row, whatever it was, huh.

954
00:42:04.840 --> 00:42:06.599
<v Speaker 3>So I always went over it and it was like

955
00:42:06.679 --> 00:42:07.679
<v Speaker 3>substantial money.

956
00:42:07.880 --> 00:42:08.159
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

957
00:42:08.280 --> 00:42:09.679
<v Speaker 3>It was like kind of an easy way to save

958
00:42:09.719 --> 00:42:12.679
<v Speaker 3>because it's like you forget about it until it becomes

959
00:42:12.760 --> 00:42:13.440
<v Speaker 3>reality like that.

960
00:42:13.559 --> 00:42:14.920
<v Speaker 4>So I just didn't mind it.

961
00:42:16.079 --> 00:42:19.039
<v Speaker 2>Jonathan Wilhelm Are the rings a lot nicer coming from

962
00:42:19.079 --> 00:42:21.760
<v Speaker 2>developmentals the main roster or are they all kind of the same?

963
00:42:21.840 --> 00:42:24.199
<v Speaker 4>Good question, same exact same, which thank god.

964
00:42:24.199 --> 00:42:26.840
<v Speaker 3>I mean that there were so many things wrong with

965
00:42:26.880 --> 00:42:29.599
<v Speaker 3>Deep South and OVW that have the ring be different.

966
00:42:29.320 --> 00:42:32.599
<v Speaker 4>Dimensions would be like extra stupid, you know what I mean.

967
00:42:33.559 --> 00:42:36.039
<v Speaker 3>Training a sixteen footer and these guys never wrestled before

968
00:42:36.039 --> 00:42:38.679
<v Speaker 3>you get called up and it's twenty, you'd be a mess.

969
00:42:39.199 --> 00:42:43.760
<v Speaker 2>Ww rings though compared to like a good indie ring

970
00:42:44.119 --> 00:42:45.440
<v Speaker 2>or something.

971
00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:47.159
<v Speaker 1>Like that, in my opinion, it's nothing better than a

972
00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:48.280
<v Speaker 1>w ring really.

973
00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:49.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

974
00:42:49.199 --> 00:42:50.719
<v Speaker 1>And the first time I was ever in it, like

975
00:42:50.760 --> 00:42:52.480
<v Speaker 1>I remember going from like corner to corner, I was like,

976
00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:53.559
<v Speaker 1>why am I gonna stop running?

977
00:42:53.639 --> 00:42:54.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah? Crazy?

978
00:42:55.159 --> 00:42:57.480
<v Speaker 3>Like I think, I mean the creatle ring is the

979
00:42:57.519 --> 00:43:00.280
<v Speaker 3>high Spots eighteen footer and it's I think.

980
00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:03.239
<v Speaker 1>Like I have trouble running in an eighteen foot ring, dude,

981
00:43:03.280 --> 00:43:03.920
<v Speaker 1>because I.

982
00:43:03.880 --> 00:43:07.519
<v Speaker 3>Remember when I got fired the first time. In that

983
00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:09.519
<v Speaker 3>two years, I think I only worked in the twenty

984
00:43:09.559 --> 00:43:10.400
<v Speaker 3>foot or once, and.

985
00:43:10.360 --> 00:43:12.159
<v Speaker 1>I was working every weekend, right, yeah, And I.

986
00:43:12.119 --> 00:43:14.079
<v Speaker 3>Remember doing like a rope running spot and it's something

987
00:43:14.119 --> 00:43:15.679
<v Speaker 3>where I was like the middle guy, like the one

988
00:43:15.719 --> 00:43:17.239
<v Speaker 3>doing like the leap prog whatever, and I just felt

989
00:43:17.239 --> 00:43:19.519
<v Speaker 3>like I was waiting for this guy to come, like

990
00:43:19.599 --> 00:43:21.039
<v Speaker 3>he was running like down the aisle, but it was

991
00:43:21.039 --> 00:43:22.760
<v Speaker 3>just in the ropes. It was just so much bigger

992
00:43:22.760 --> 00:43:25.000
<v Speaker 3>than that because you're just always in these eighteens and sixteens.

993
00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:27.679
<v Speaker 2>It's just on the sixteen, and you were fifty percent

994
00:43:27.679 --> 00:43:30.679
<v Speaker 2>of your matches in a sixteen with them Pat Bucks thing.

995
00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:33.760
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, the wrestleber ring sixteen it's too small.

996
00:43:33.840 --> 00:43:35.880
<v Speaker 1>I think the only restapurer Alaska that's sixteen.

997
00:43:36.480 --> 00:43:39.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, I don't know. It depends because they're not

998
00:43:39.400 --> 00:43:40.679
<v Speaker 2>using the restle ring, that's for sure.

999
00:43:40.760 --> 00:43:42.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's an Alaska ring, but I can't remember.

1000
00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:45.079
<v Speaker 2>What's it called. I think I only was in a

1001
00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:48.199
<v Speaker 2>twenty foot ring like doing practice matches for the WWE.

1002
00:43:48.760 --> 00:43:50.880
<v Speaker 2>It was like the only time I've ever been in one.

1003
00:43:50.960 --> 00:43:53.840
<v Speaker 4>You know what he had the Uh what's that promotion?

1004
00:43:54.079 --> 00:43:55.920
<v Speaker 3>Like down and I want to say, like delaware that

1005
00:43:56.000 --> 00:43:57.280
<v Speaker 3>only like Barton kept work.

1006
00:43:57.639 --> 00:44:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh mcw no right coo ring aw has like a

1007
00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:08.519
<v Speaker 2>custom ring. Did you know that they have like bigger aprons?

1008
00:44:08.880 --> 00:44:11.000
<v Speaker 4>I do. I heard that that's true and it's higher

1009
00:44:11.000 --> 00:44:13.880
<v Speaker 4>a little higher, right, I'm sure High Spots makes those

1010
00:44:13.880 --> 00:44:14.559
<v Speaker 4>for them or something.

1011
00:44:14.639 --> 00:44:20.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's interesting, cool, Alan Hetzel. Uh what is the

1012
00:44:20.360 --> 00:44:23.199
<v Speaker 2>thing you both really miss about those days?

1013
00:44:24.159 --> 00:44:30.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't miss much, if anything about OVW about I mean,

1014
00:44:30.039 --> 00:44:32.360
<v Speaker 1>I didn't make like a couple like like Cabana, but

1015
00:44:33.079 --> 00:44:37.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, uh deep South I do. It was

1016
00:44:37.639 --> 00:44:39.519
<v Speaker 1>that was like my college because yes I was going

1017
00:44:39.559 --> 00:44:41.320
<v Speaker 1>to community college, but it was like I was living

1018
00:44:41.400 --> 00:44:43.679
<v Speaker 1>at home. This was me like moving away from home,

1019
00:44:44.039 --> 00:44:45.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, getting that five hundred dollars, which I thought

1020
00:44:45.719 --> 00:44:47.400
<v Speaker 1>it was like a million dollars. To me, it felt

1021
00:44:47.400 --> 00:44:51.119
<v Speaker 1>like five million dollars a week, like just it was unbelievable,

1022
00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:53.679
<v Speaker 1>Like having my own place and going out and drinking,

1023
00:44:53.840 --> 00:44:55.360
<v Speaker 1>not to listen to my parents, and then going to

1024
00:44:55.360 --> 00:44:57.239
<v Speaker 1>wrestle every day, and yes it was hard and blah

1025
00:44:57.239 --> 00:44:59.360
<v Speaker 1>blah blah. But after it was hard, we'd all go

1026
00:44:59.400 --> 00:45:00.920
<v Speaker 1>out to eat together and it was such a small,

1027
00:45:01.280 --> 00:45:05.000
<v Speaker 1>tight knit group. It was like compared to like NXT

1028
00:45:05.159 --> 00:45:08.679
<v Speaker 1>that has hundreds of people, I think there might have

1029
00:45:08.719 --> 00:45:09.320
<v Speaker 1>been thirty.

1030
00:45:09.880 --> 00:45:12.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah right, maybe it was only like there was only

1031
00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:15.199
<v Speaker 3>like four women, you know what I mean. Nothing, So

1032
00:45:16.039 --> 00:45:18.639
<v Speaker 3>it has to be all that the camaraderie, you know.

1033
00:45:18.760 --> 00:45:20.679
<v Speaker 3>And I think, like to the end of time, if

1034
00:45:20.719 --> 00:45:23.280
<v Speaker 3>I see a Deep South person, we're still like kindred

1035
00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:24.880
<v Speaker 3>spirits because of it, you know what I mean, Because

1036
00:45:25.400 --> 00:45:27.360
<v Speaker 3>you had to be there to truly understand how nuts

1037
00:45:27.360 --> 00:45:27.639
<v Speaker 3>it was.

1038
00:45:27.880 --> 00:45:31.199
<v Speaker 2>Well, how about no responsibility too, like no kids.

1039
00:45:32.119 --> 00:45:34.639
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but I had that up until a couple of

1040
00:45:34.719 --> 00:45:35.519
<v Speaker 4>years ago, you know what I mean.

1041
00:45:35.559 --> 00:45:38.599
<v Speaker 3>I was limited queens hanging out, partying and going to bars.

1042
00:45:39.079 --> 00:45:41.239
<v Speaker 3>I was just doing it with my girlfriend who became

1043
00:45:41.280 --> 00:45:41.840
<v Speaker 3>my wife, you know.

1044
00:45:42.679 --> 00:45:46.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Marcus Evida, if you were in your twenties and

1045
00:45:46.760 --> 00:45:49.920
<v Speaker 2>starting your wrestling career in present day, would you rather

1046
00:45:50.000 --> 00:45:52.519
<v Speaker 2>be signed to NXT or continue to earn your craft

1047
00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:53.159
<v Speaker 2>in the indies.

1048
00:45:54.400 --> 00:45:57.159
<v Speaker 1>So it's all it really depends on how they're going

1049
00:45:57.199 --> 00:45:59.039
<v Speaker 1>to use you, because there's some guys like I was

1050
00:45:59.039 --> 00:46:01.719
<v Speaker 1>just talking to else, there's like some people who've been obed.

1051
00:46:01.760 --> 00:46:05.119
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, I've been an NXC for like five plus years,

1052
00:46:05.119 --> 00:46:07.599
<v Speaker 1>have never done a thing, you know, and like what's

1053
00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:09.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna happen If they don't get used, They're gonna be

1054
00:46:09.480 --> 00:46:11.880
<v Speaker 1>released and then then what like they never became a

1055
00:46:11.960 --> 00:46:13.840
<v Speaker 1>name in an XT, so they gonna have no equity.

1056
00:46:14.000 --> 00:46:16.440
<v Speaker 1>They gonna like maybe they have like a decent salary,

1057
00:46:16.480 --> 00:46:18.440
<v Speaker 1>but I doubt it. It's not like they have like

1058
00:46:18.519 --> 00:46:19.320
<v Speaker 1>millions saved.

1059
00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:21.559
<v Speaker 3>I mean, the whole business and the business will always

1060
00:46:21.599 --> 00:46:24.639
<v Speaker 3>be this way. It's a bet on yourself kind of scenario, right,

1061
00:46:24.800 --> 00:46:28.800
<v Speaker 3>you know. Yeah, So the problem with Indy's for me

1062
00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:32.719
<v Speaker 3>right now is that it's just so depleted because everyone's

1063
00:46:32.760 --> 00:46:35.880
<v Speaker 3>so hungry for talent with all you know, these the

1064
00:46:35.880 --> 00:46:39.079
<v Speaker 3>bigger promotions that they don't let these people like marinate

1065
00:46:39.199 --> 00:46:42.000
<v Speaker 3>and kind of find themselves or even get a little

1066
00:46:42.079 --> 00:46:44.440
<v Speaker 3>buzz anymore. Like I mean, you have an ounce of buzz,

1067
00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:48.159
<v Speaker 3>you're getting signed so to somebody, you know, whether it's

1068
00:46:48.280 --> 00:46:51.760
<v Speaker 3>RHMLW impact, you know, not just any w a NXT.

1069
00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:55.239
<v Speaker 3>So it's tough you know, and and then to the

1070
00:46:55.320 --> 00:46:57.599
<v Speaker 3>end of time, wrestling's gonna be a bet on yourself scenario.

1071
00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:00.000
<v Speaker 3>You know, you have to bet on yourself where you

1072
00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:02.119
<v Speaker 3>see yourself working out, you know.

1073
00:47:02.159 --> 00:47:05.320
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, and yeah, I think that we and we

1074
00:47:05.400 --> 00:47:07.480
<v Speaker 2>talked about it a lot. I mean in a wrestling

1075
00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:09.199
<v Speaker 2>school with a bunch of people trying to make it,

1076
00:47:09.599 --> 00:47:11.599
<v Speaker 2>the conversations are always like, well, where do you think

1077
00:47:11.639 --> 00:47:13.599
<v Speaker 2>that you would fit the most? And it would be

1078
00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:15.760
<v Speaker 2>this promotion or that promotion or staying on D and

1079
00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:17.880
<v Speaker 2>D's or you know that kind of thing. So it

1080
00:47:17.920 --> 00:47:21.280
<v Speaker 2>really depends on the person too. Michael Lupuma, is it

1081
00:47:21.280 --> 00:47:23.519
<v Speaker 2>hard for you guys to adjust to different ring sizes?

1082
00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:24.559
<v Speaker 2>But we just talked about that.

1083
00:47:24.800 --> 00:47:28.519
<v Speaker 3>Yes it is, Yeah, for sure, it's definitely always It's

1084
00:47:28.559 --> 00:47:31.119
<v Speaker 3>not like going to ruin a match, but it's awkward.

1085
00:47:31.079 --> 00:47:35.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, especially that first time Enrique de la Reva. Is

1086
00:47:35.679 --> 00:47:38.400
<v Speaker 2>there a particular moment either of your careers up to

1087
00:47:38.480 --> 00:47:41.480
<v Speaker 2>that point you can say meant more to you in

1088
00:47:41.480 --> 00:47:44.119
<v Speaker 2>that particular moment while it was happening, like a compliment

1089
00:47:44.119 --> 00:47:45.960
<v Speaker 2>from a legend or a praise from your peers.

1090
00:47:47.840 --> 00:47:48.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, whole things suck.

1091
00:47:51.480 --> 00:47:55.320
<v Speaker 2>Maybe the reverse of that question like something that men.

1092
00:47:56.519 --> 00:47:59.199
<v Speaker 3>Might have said this on another episode. But there was

1093
00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:02.559
<v Speaker 3>some production meeting around the time where we like eventually

1094
00:48:02.599 --> 00:48:05.360
<v Speaker 3>got the tag tiles in WW, and I remember Ricky

1095
00:48:05.400 --> 00:48:07.639
<v Speaker 3>Steamboat saying that fit stood up in the meeting and

1096
00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:09.519
<v Speaker 3>said that we because we had been working him a

1097
00:48:09.519 --> 00:48:10.920
<v Speaker 3>lot in the live events, and he said that like

1098
00:48:11.280 --> 00:48:12.880
<v Speaker 3>we have it, like these guys are good and like

1099
00:48:12.920 --> 00:48:15.760
<v Speaker 3>he goes he said something like Finley gave you his

1100
00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:17.679
<v Speaker 3>stamp of approval and that that's a big deal.

1101
00:48:18.559 --> 00:48:21.119
<v Speaker 4>You know. I remember, think that was pretty cool.

1102
00:48:21.719 --> 00:48:23.840
<v Speaker 3>That's not a guy who throws compliments around and he

1103
00:48:24.039 --> 00:48:25.280
<v Speaker 3>and technically he didn't, you know.

1104
00:48:25.440 --> 00:48:28.440
<v Speaker 1>He throws head bands around playing Yeah, it.

1105
00:48:28.400 --> 00:48:29.480
<v Speaker 4>Wasn't a company, he said to us.

1106
00:48:29.519 --> 00:48:34.440
<v Speaker 2>But sorry for that story. No, I love that Connor Price.

1107
00:48:34.480 --> 00:48:37.239
<v Speaker 2>Which trainer did Brian learn the most from and how

1108
00:48:37.840 --> 00:48:41.039
<v Speaker 2>they how did they influence his own teaching style? I

1109
00:48:41.039 --> 00:48:42.159
<v Speaker 2>think I know the answer to that.

1110
00:48:43.000 --> 00:48:45.960
<v Speaker 3>I think my teacher styles completely ripped off from doctor

1111
00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:51.159
<v Speaker 3>Tom because I think he, at least in the developmental environment,

1112
00:48:51.159 --> 00:48:52.880
<v Speaker 3>he has had the most figured out.

1113
00:48:53.159 --> 00:48:55.119
<v Speaker 2>You know, and you were doctor Tom in FCW.

1114
00:48:55.760 --> 00:48:57.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I got I got a couple of months

1115
00:48:57.559 --> 00:49:00.679
<v Speaker 3>of Doctor Tom and Deep South, and then when closes

1116
00:49:01.039 --> 00:49:02.880
<v Speaker 3>and then you know, I eventually got the f saving

1117
00:49:02.920 --> 00:49:04.519
<v Speaker 3>out a full year of Doctor Towm.

1118
00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:07.559
<v Speaker 2>So you get to FZ. Oh so you okay, all right,

1119
00:49:07.639 --> 00:49:10.400
<v Speaker 2>but when he starts teaching, are you kind of like, oh,

1120
00:49:10.559 --> 00:49:11.840
<v Speaker 2>this is great.

1121
00:49:12.119 --> 00:49:15.519
<v Speaker 3>I just would just soak it up and realize, like,

1122
00:49:15.559 --> 00:49:20.719
<v Speaker 3>this is what I think. The repetition in wrestling is

1123
00:49:20.719 --> 00:49:23.719
<v Speaker 3>what really like, you know, having solid fundamentals is going

1124
00:49:23.760 --> 00:49:26.400
<v Speaker 3>to keep you safe and keep you healthy. It's like

1125
00:49:26.559 --> 00:49:28.719
<v Speaker 3>the repetition of doing these some of these drills where

1126
00:49:28.760 --> 00:49:32.320
<v Speaker 3>you're almost on like autopilot, you know, so you're not

1127
00:49:32.360 --> 00:49:34.360
<v Speaker 3>your mind's not racing a mile a minute and you

1128
00:49:34.400 --> 00:49:37.559
<v Speaker 3>could truly be be your character and get lost and

1129
00:49:37.599 --> 00:49:41.119
<v Speaker 3>things like that. I think that is really helpful. So

1130
00:49:41.159 --> 00:49:43.239
<v Speaker 3>that's why I liked all that stuff that Doctor Tom

1131
00:49:43.239 --> 00:49:45.880
<v Speaker 3>would do, like drills like that, or and you train

1132
00:49:46.679 --> 00:49:49.000
<v Speaker 3>and do these drills that are so physically exhausting that

1133
00:49:49.039 --> 00:49:51.480
<v Speaker 3>it goes above and beyond actual pro wrestling match. So

1134
00:49:51.920 --> 00:49:54.199
<v Speaker 3>a pro wrestling match becomes cake, even though it is

1135
00:49:54.199 --> 00:49:57.679
<v Speaker 3>a very difficult athletic thing. But you've you've went above

1136
00:49:57.679 --> 00:49:59.840
<v Speaker 3>and beyond in your training, so you come back down

1137
00:49:59.880 --> 00:50:02.039
<v Speaker 3>and matches like, oh, okay, this is easy, I can

1138
00:50:02.079 --> 00:50:02.480
<v Speaker 3>handle this.

1139
00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:03.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, one hundred percent agree with you.

1140
00:50:04.800 --> 00:50:07.559
<v Speaker 3>And then I've always said this, and I mean, if

1141
00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:10.559
<v Speaker 3>this is back to Bill and Al, I don't really care.

1142
00:50:11.000 --> 00:50:14.559
<v Speaker 3>I always felt like Bill and Al still wanted that run,

1143
00:50:15.039 --> 00:50:17.159
<v Speaker 3>they wanted to be on Raw, they wanted to be

1144
00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:19.880
<v Speaker 3>the Icy champ, and they still had that in them.

1145
00:50:19.880 --> 00:50:21.280
<v Speaker 3>And I don't blame it for him, Like I still

1146
00:50:21.320 --> 00:50:24.039
<v Speaker 3>have that in me too, and that's why I still

1147
00:50:24.199 --> 00:50:27.440
<v Speaker 3>am a wrestler. But Doctor Tom did not. Doctor Tom

1148
00:50:27.519 --> 00:50:30.280
<v Speaker 3>was there to purely help the guys and get them

1149
00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:32.559
<v Speaker 3>ready to get up and succeed, you know, in the

1150
00:50:32.559 --> 00:50:35.519
<v Speaker 3>big show, whereas like they just had that little bit

1151
00:50:35.719 --> 00:50:37.760
<v Speaker 3>still in them, And it's hard to help others when

1152
00:50:37.760 --> 00:50:39.360
<v Speaker 3>you're you still want it.

1153
00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:45.079
<v Speaker 2>Interesting. I've never even heard you say that, James Zimbickie.

1154
00:50:45.239 --> 00:50:48.480
<v Speaker 2>I know it isn't really developmental question, but when you

1155
00:50:48.519 --> 00:50:51.440
<v Speaker 2>both went back to the newer NXT, were you expected

1156
00:50:51.480 --> 00:50:54.679
<v Speaker 2>to do the same classes or since you were talent

1157
00:50:54.719 --> 00:50:57.039
<v Speaker 2>from Raw and SmackDown, did you have to do the

1158
00:50:57.119 --> 00:50:58.039
<v Speaker 2>NXT classes.

1159
00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:01.079
<v Speaker 4>I did not have to do any classes, did you ever?

1160
00:51:01.159 --> 00:51:04.519
<v Speaker 3>Even you never even went to one? Right, never like

1161
00:51:04.599 --> 00:51:06.199
<v Speaker 3>you motors are just the team and that was it.

1162
00:51:06.480 --> 00:51:09.000
<v Speaker 3>Never never had to go Did you ever explain another episode?

1163
00:51:09.039 --> 00:51:11.840
<v Speaker 3>I was in Billy Gun's class, and it was actually

1164
00:51:11.840 --> 00:51:15.280
<v Speaker 3>a very awesome experience, pretty enjoyable for me.

1165
00:51:16.599 --> 00:51:18.400
<v Speaker 2>You just popped in when you were down there to

1166
00:51:18.440 --> 00:51:19.400
<v Speaker 2>do something, right.

1167
00:51:19.599 --> 00:51:21.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I had it. I was sent there

1168
00:51:21.559 --> 00:51:23.039
<v Speaker 3>like I had to go Monday through Friday.

1169
00:51:23.239 --> 00:51:28.199
<v Speaker 2>Oh right, yes, And and Brosky, you when you guys

1170
00:51:28.199 --> 00:51:30.519
<v Speaker 2>would work on stuff, you didn't you never went to

1171
00:51:30.559 --> 00:51:31.960
<v Speaker 2>the PC to just try some stuff.

1172
00:51:32.559 --> 00:51:33.119
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely not.

1173
00:51:33.320 --> 00:51:35.920
<v Speaker 3>No, I'd have to work And now you know why

1174
00:51:35.960 --> 00:51:37.360
<v Speaker 3>the eyebrows were so successful.

1175
00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:39.159
<v Speaker 1>No, we we did the live of it. I think

1176
00:51:39.199 --> 00:51:42.960
<v Speaker 1>there's no you can practically, it's not about moves, right,

1177
00:51:43.000 --> 00:51:45.480
<v Speaker 1>it's not so like the only way to get the

1178
00:51:45.519 --> 00:51:47.840
<v Speaker 1>experience and to get the chemistry is by having real

1179
00:51:48.000 --> 00:51:50.960
<v Speaker 1>matches with real people. That's that's way we did, not

1180
00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:53.239
<v Speaker 1>the only way. Okay, that's the best way, the best way.

1181
00:51:53.400 --> 00:51:55.599
<v Speaker 1>But so why why even do the other ways? If

1182
00:51:55.599 --> 00:51:57.559
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna only only do the best way?

1183
00:51:57.920 --> 00:52:00.400
<v Speaker 4>That stuff you can go over at the bill for two.

1184
00:52:00.400 --> 00:52:02.679
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's not what am I gonna go do?

1185
00:52:02.679 --> 00:52:04.840
<v Speaker 1>Double hip tosses like give me a break, like come on,

1186
00:52:06.480 --> 00:52:08.239
<v Speaker 1>and don't get me wrong, Mojo tried to get me

1187
00:52:08.280 --> 00:52:12.159
<v Speaker 1>to go but uh uh uh uh.

1188
00:52:12.719 --> 00:52:14.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't know about this question. But C J. Martin

1189
00:52:14.559 --> 00:52:17.079
<v Speaker 2>sorry for this one. Gotta blame watching too much. Johnny

1190
00:52:17.079 --> 00:52:20.679
<v Speaker 2>Swinger for this question. Which territory had the bet.

1191
00:52:20.599 --> 00:52:26.760
<v Speaker 1>Riz ats non existent in both? Sandy Press, I had

1192
00:52:26.800 --> 00:52:30.360
<v Speaker 1>a girlfriend in both. I remember there was one, uh

1193
00:52:30.559 --> 00:52:34.079
<v Speaker 1>in Deep South and I don't know if I called her. Oh,

1194
00:52:34.079 --> 00:52:35.159
<v Speaker 1>we can't tell the story.

1195
00:52:35.199 --> 00:52:39.440
<v Speaker 2>Actually, Okay, Yeah, moving on Sandy Press, who was a

1196
00:52:39.519 --> 00:52:40.400
<v Speaker 2>legend or star?

1197
00:52:40.760 --> 00:52:42.320
<v Speaker 3>You looked up with that chick who worked at the

1198
00:52:42.320 --> 00:52:44.639
<v Speaker 3>Caprice sun factory And me and Command used to be like,

1199
00:52:44.679 --> 00:52:46.400
<v Speaker 3>did you get the hook up with those Caprice sons

1200
00:52:46.480 --> 00:52:46.719
<v Speaker 3>or what?

1201
00:52:51.599 --> 00:52:54.119
<v Speaker 4>Who was a legend or it's a perk bro free

1202
00:52:54.119 --> 00:52:54.719
<v Speaker 4>Caprice son.

1203
00:52:55.360 --> 00:52:55.679
<v Speaker 1>I remember.

1204
00:52:55.719 --> 00:52:57.239
<v Speaker 3>We just thought that was the weirdest thing. She was like, yeah,

1205
00:52:57.280 --> 00:52:58.800
<v Speaker 3>I work at a Price Sun factory.

1206
00:53:00.639 --> 00:53:02.800
<v Speaker 2>You kind of have mentioned a lot of people, but

1207
00:53:02.880 --> 00:53:05.440
<v Speaker 2>if there was any extra people who was a legendar

1208
00:53:05.480 --> 00:53:07.000
<v Speaker 2>star at the time that was really looking out for

1209
00:53:07.039 --> 00:53:09.679
<v Speaker 2>the younger talent, if any at all. So you Bobby's

1210
00:53:09.719 --> 00:53:14.519
<v Speaker 2>had mentioned doctor Tom and.

1211
00:53:13.159 --> 00:53:16.440
<v Speaker 1>In Deep South everyone was there to get on TV.

1212
00:53:16.639 --> 00:53:18.599
<v Speaker 1>So like there were guys who came down like gangrel,

1213
00:53:18.840 --> 00:53:21.360
<v Speaker 1>like Henry Godwin, but they were looking for that second

1214
00:53:21.400 --> 00:53:21.760
<v Speaker 1>run too.

1215
00:53:21.760 --> 00:53:24.239
<v Speaker 4>They were helpful. They were very helpful and helpful.

1216
00:53:24.280 --> 00:53:25.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, but they were.

1217
00:53:25.159 --> 00:53:29.280
<v Speaker 3>Looking to get that that that flash funk flash funk yeah.

1218
00:53:29.719 --> 00:53:31.960
<v Speaker 1>Deep South, Yeah, trying to get that jumpstart.

1219
00:53:32.400 --> 00:53:33.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1220
00:53:33.559 --> 00:53:37.079
<v Speaker 2>Uh wrestling World of Buzz. But with some two cold

1221
00:53:37.079 --> 00:53:38.119
<v Speaker 2>Scorpio this week.

1222
00:53:38.639 --> 00:53:41.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah what a character Michael. I mean might have said

1223
00:53:41.679 --> 00:53:43.960
<v Speaker 3>this in another episode, but it's worth repeating. There was

1224
00:53:44.000 --> 00:53:46.360
<v Speaker 3>this random ass day and the deathbed of Deep South.

1225
00:53:46.719 --> 00:53:48.920
<v Speaker 3>It was when Scorpio was there, and then we came

1226
00:53:48.960 --> 00:53:51.559
<v Speaker 3>in and Jody Hamilton and I guess DDP went way

1227
00:53:51.599 --> 00:53:54.280
<v Speaker 3>back from like you know, the power Plant days and stuff,

1228
00:53:54.280 --> 00:53:55.800
<v Speaker 3>and he's like DDE Pacer here and you guys are

1229
00:53:55.800 --> 00:53:57.840
<v Speaker 3>gonna do yoga with him. This was like very early

1230
00:53:57.880 --> 00:54:00.559
<v Speaker 3>in DDP yoga. I was like this big and we're

1231
00:54:00.639 --> 00:54:03.599
<v Speaker 3>like what and we had a dude, it was better

1232
00:54:03.639 --> 00:54:05.880
<v Speaker 3>than bumping. We spent a day of doing DDP yoga

1233
00:54:06.199 --> 00:54:09.000
<v Speaker 3>with DDP whatever. But what I remember about that it

1234
00:54:09.039 --> 00:54:11.800
<v Speaker 3>was like that Scorpio was like hell nah, and he

1235
00:54:11.960 --> 00:54:16.159
<v Speaker 3>like helped Dallas like videotape or like anything, but do.

1236
00:54:16.239 --> 00:54:18.000
<v Speaker 4>The yoga like the whole day, which I was like,

1237
00:54:18.039 --> 00:54:19.960
<v Speaker 4>what a brother? Now, I love Harney move.

1238
00:54:20.039 --> 00:54:21.639
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you asked who answered this, but

1239
00:54:21.960 --> 00:54:25.079
<v Speaker 2>he so he was signed for a limited time and

1240
00:54:25.360 --> 00:54:26.960
<v Speaker 2>never made it out of Deep South.

1241
00:54:27.000 --> 00:54:28.440
<v Speaker 3>He was just he was a punch man like so

1242
00:54:28.800 --> 00:54:31.159
<v Speaker 3>like Broski said, Henry Godmin was in Deep South, and

1243
00:54:31.199 --> 00:54:33.880
<v Speaker 3>he was supposed to be like a new version of

1244
00:54:33.920 --> 00:54:35.840
<v Speaker 3>the Goblins with Ray Gordy.

1245
00:54:35.719 --> 00:54:38.559
<v Speaker 1>Which eventually becomes Festus.

1246
00:54:37.960 --> 00:54:40.960
<v Speaker 3>Somehow becomes Jesse and Festus over like many incarnations and

1247
00:54:41.119 --> 00:54:47.239
<v Speaker 3>spitballs of ideas and stuff. Then there was Gangrel, like

1248
00:54:47.679 --> 00:54:49.400
<v Speaker 3>we might have told this story too, like Gangrel is there.

1249
00:54:49.400 --> 00:54:51.639
<v Speaker 3>One day we walk in, I'll never forgot Kevin Matthews goes,

1250
00:54:51.679 --> 00:54:54.760
<v Speaker 3>oh wow, Gangrel seminar today, that'd be cool. And then

1251
00:54:55.599 --> 00:54:57.840
<v Speaker 3>ten minutes later Bill's calling him a lazy piece of

1252
00:54:57.840 --> 00:54:59.280
<v Speaker 3>shit and he's doing drills with us and was like

1253
00:54:59.320 --> 00:54:59.800
<v Speaker 3>mind blowing.

1254
00:54:59.800 --> 00:55:05.039
<v Speaker 1>It was he was crazy and he couldn't be gang Girl.

1255
00:55:05.079 --> 00:55:08.320
<v Speaker 3>He was David Heath, Yeah, yeah, it's very odd, crazy Dave.

1256
00:55:08.679 --> 00:55:12.159
<v Speaker 3>And then uh Scorpio came. He was gonna he was

1257
00:55:12.199 --> 00:55:14.360
<v Speaker 3>resigned and he was going to be flash Funk again.

1258
00:55:16.039 --> 00:55:18.519
<v Speaker 3>And then Brooke Adams and Alicia Alicia Fox are going

1259
00:55:18.559 --> 00:55:20.039
<v Speaker 3>to be as funk ats and they even came to

1260
00:55:20.079 --> 00:55:23.159
<v Speaker 3>like work on dances and stuff, and it just never materialized.

1261
00:55:23.400 --> 00:55:28.559
<v Speaker 2>Wow, I would have love that, Michael Miria.

1262
00:55:28.679 --> 00:55:30.920
<v Speaker 3>I think I think all those guys might have got

1263
00:55:30.960 --> 00:55:34.039
<v Speaker 3>fired on that Black Saturday that ever got.

1264
00:55:33.880 --> 00:55:36.519
<v Speaker 2>Fired, just like the older guys that they have.

1265
00:55:37.199 --> 00:55:38.679
<v Speaker 4>Possibly for both guys.

1266
00:55:38.679 --> 00:55:41.559
<v Speaker 2>How is Matt as a roommate and how is Brian

1267
00:55:41.599 --> 00:55:42.239
<v Speaker 2>as a roommate?

1268
00:55:44.400 --> 00:55:46.519
<v Speaker 3>I never I don't know if Brosken say about me,

1269
00:55:46.559 --> 00:55:47.920
<v Speaker 3>but I never had an issue with him as a

1270
00:55:47.960 --> 00:55:53.280
<v Speaker 3>roommate whatsoever. In a hotel he snores like a like

1271
00:55:53.320 --> 00:55:57.199
<v Speaker 3>a maniac, but in his own separate room like never, No,

1272
00:55:57.239 --> 00:55:59.719
<v Speaker 3>I never had any I can't even think of one complaint.

1273
00:55:59.800 --> 00:56:02.599
<v Speaker 1>You know, even like with Brad Jay, there was no

1274
00:56:02.840 --> 00:56:06.320
<v Speaker 1>real issue besides like I don't know, just being boring.

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00:56:06.360 --> 00:56:06.800
<v Speaker 4>There's nothing.

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00:56:06.880 --> 00:56:10.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's no real uh yeah, no, no real issue.

1277
00:56:10.679 --> 00:56:15.159
<v Speaker 1>And we in both situations, I said, in both situations

1278
00:56:15.199 --> 00:56:19.079
<v Speaker 1>in Deep South, we were like opposite areas from the

1279
00:56:19.119 --> 00:56:21.440
<v Speaker 1>department or the house. So it was like you know,

1280
00:56:21.519 --> 00:56:22.880
<v Speaker 1>you could be hanging out if you want to do

1281
00:56:23.000 --> 00:56:25.400
<v Speaker 1>or create distance, you know, because.

1282
00:56:25.119 --> 00:56:27.920
<v Speaker 3>We had all the same interests, like you know from

1283
00:56:27.920 --> 00:56:30.320
<v Speaker 3>the show, like collecting figures and going on fig hunts

1284
00:56:30.360 --> 00:56:32.039
<v Speaker 3>and you know, you go to the gym the same

1285
00:56:32.039 --> 00:56:33.679
<v Speaker 3>time every day. Like it really wasn't like this like

1286
00:56:33.760 --> 00:56:37.039
<v Speaker 3>drastic departure and like personalities and stuff, you know.

1287
00:56:39.199 --> 00:56:41.760
<v Speaker 2>Clinton Johnson, how did each of you develop your finishing

1288
00:56:41.840 --> 00:56:45.000
<v Speaker 2>signature moves? Do you have input yourselves or you signed

1289
00:56:45.000 --> 00:56:50.880
<v Speaker 2>certain moves by trainers to use? Slash try Interesting? Is

1290
00:56:50.920 --> 00:56:53.599
<v Speaker 2>anybody ever going over moves like finishing move? You should

1291
00:56:53.639 --> 00:56:55.719
<v Speaker 2>do this move in development?

1292
00:56:55.719 --> 00:56:58.280
<v Speaker 1>Do you remember like one day there being like I

1293
00:56:58.320 --> 00:56:59.679
<v Speaker 1>don't know, we were learning how to do like spine

1294
00:56:59.719 --> 00:57:02.599
<v Speaker 1>busts or something like. It wasn't really liked I think

1295
00:57:02.599 --> 00:57:06.039
<v Speaker 1>if we asked, but like I think at that point

1296
00:57:06.239 --> 00:57:08.320
<v Speaker 1>you kind of had to know. And yes, there was

1297
00:57:08.360 --> 00:57:10.400
<v Speaker 1>definitely days where it was like, all right, this is

1298
00:57:10.400 --> 00:57:13.360
<v Speaker 1>how you do headlock takeover. And I remember like I

1299
00:57:13.360 --> 00:57:15.679
<v Speaker 1>couldn't do it the way like Bill wanted me to

1300
00:57:15.719 --> 00:57:16.000
<v Speaker 1>do it.

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00:57:16.119 --> 00:57:17.320
<v Speaker 4>The thro style.

1302
00:57:18.039 --> 00:57:20.159
<v Speaker 3>What's that the throw style like where it's like you

1303
00:57:20.199 --> 00:57:22.519
<v Speaker 3>shift your body weight. Yeah, like yeah, it's like where

1304
00:57:22.519 --> 00:57:25.199
<v Speaker 3>It's like it's almost like real Yeah, yeah.

1305
00:57:25.199 --> 00:57:27.000
<v Speaker 1>And that's just one of those Bill says the best

1306
00:57:27.039 --> 00:57:28.679
<v Speaker 1>it's flavors of ice cream. There is so many different

1307
00:57:28.719 --> 00:57:31.800
<v Speaker 1>ways to do things. There's no really right one. What

1308
00:57:32.159 --> 00:57:33.559
<v Speaker 1>the one right way?

1309
00:57:33.599 --> 00:57:35.519
<v Speaker 3>They'll use that to this day. I tell people like, hey,

1310
00:57:35.519 --> 00:57:38.119
<v Speaker 3>this is what I like. But I'm not the be

1311
00:57:38.199 --> 00:57:39.880
<v Speaker 3>all end all on pro wrestling. I'm just telling you

1312
00:57:39.920 --> 00:57:41.519
<v Speaker 3>what I think is best and what I do.

1313
00:57:42.199 --> 00:57:42.360
<v Speaker 4>You know.

1314
00:57:43.760 --> 00:57:48.440
<v Speaker 2>Uh, A couple more here, Jack Hodson, who were the

1315
00:57:48.480 --> 00:57:51.719
<v Speaker 2>best and worst guest trainers.

1316
00:57:52.199 --> 00:57:58.079
<v Speaker 3>Worse, Greg and Robert Gibson. Huh, I said, Vito big Veto.

1317
00:57:58.199 --> 00:58:00.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah those those that's a triad right there. Greg Gania,

1318
00:58:01.480 --> 00:58:04.599
<v Speaker 3>who admittedly had he was there in six right, and

1319
00:58:04.639 --> 00:58:06.719
<v Speaker 3>he told us he hadn't watch wrestling since the late eighties,

1320
00:58:06.800 --> 00:58:08.320
<v Speaker 3>so he was so far gone.

1321
00:58:08.440 --> 00:58:09.599
<v Speaker 1>Oh I'll never remember him.

1322
00:58:09.639 --> 00:58:11.199
<v Speaker 4>Like the information was insane.

1323
00:58:11.360 --> 00:58:14.239
<v Speaker 1>Teaching us we were like how to say extra learn

1324
00:58:14.360 --> 00:58:16.760
<v Speaker 1>like these ridiculous punches in the corner, and then like

1325
00:58:17.239 --> 00:58:19.400
<v Speaker 1>Bill's like forget everything you just learned. I'm like, then

1326
00:58:19.400 --> 00:58:20.159
<v Speaker 1>why are we doing this?

1327
00:58:20.360 --> 00:58:21.639
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

1328
00:58:21.840 --> 00:58:24.599
<v Speaker 3>Same thing with Robert Gibson, Like you know, it was

1329
00:58:24.639 --> 00:58:26.719
<v Speaker 3>like just his way and that was it, you know,

1330
00:58:26.840 --> 00:58:29.559
<v Speaker 3>and another one that you know, not that he hasn't

1331
00:58:29.599 --> 00:58:31.920
<v Speaker 3>had a wonderful career and did amazing things. It's just

1332
00:58:32.000 --> 00:58:34.199
<v Speaker 3>like what he did is not going to work for

1333
00:58:34.320 --> 00:58:36.719
<v Speaker 3>like the majority of like teaching the.

1334
00:58:36.679 --> 00:58:37.360
<v Speaker 4>Masses, you know.

1335
00:58:38.039 --> 00:58:42.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then big vit'll forget about it that it

1336
00:58:42.239 --> 00:58:48.159
<v Speaker 3>was pointless to listen to him.

1337
00:58:48.599 --> 00:58:50.400
<v Speaker 4>What was that best was also on there?

1338
00:58:50.559 --> 00:58:55.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Norman Smiley, doctor Tom for sure.

1339
00:58:55.400 --> 00:58:57.360
<v Speaker 1>I remember Bruce Pritcher coming down and like it was

1340
00:58:57.400 --> 00:58:58.239
<v Speaker 1>just talking, but it was.

1341
00:58:58.320 --> 00:59:00.519
<v Speaker 3>Very very help Richard would give the same speech, but

1342
00:59:00.599 --> 00:59:04.119
<v Speaker 3>it was a very motivating and informative speech.

1343
00:59:04.199 --> 00:59:07.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, saying like the nation was meant for Dlo Brown

1344
00:59:07.960 --> 00:59:11.119
<v Speaker 1>like the rock took it, you know, very like yeah,

1345
00:59:11.400 --> 00:59:13.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of grab the brass wearing type speech.

1346
00:59:14.239 --> 00:59:17.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, we literally have three more, so let's

1347
00:59:18.239 --> 00:59:22.000
<v Speaker 2>slam through these Mark vicksinitch. Is it hard to trust

1348
00:59:22.000 --> 00:59:23.880
<v Speaker 2>someone in the ring when you're first starting out? Did

1349
00:59:23.880 --> 00:59:26.880
<v Speaker 2>you have any experiences where someone lost your trust when training?

1350
00:59:29.119 --> 00:59:33.079
<v Speaker 3>Not situation, but just sometimes in devilopmentally you're doing with

1351
00:59:33.119 --> 00:59:37.559
<v Speaker 3>such green dudes and big strong athletes from another world

1352
00:59:37.559 --> 00:59:41.280
<v Speaker 3>that like you're just in bad situations, like you know,

1353
00:59:42.239 --> 00:59:45.199
<v Speaker 3>teaching people wrestling who've never seen wrestling and don't have

1354
00:59:45.239 --> 00:59:48.239
<v Speaker 3>a passion for wrestling is a bad scenario.

1355
00:59:48.440 --> 00:59:51.199
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, hell yeah, yeah there was always There's always

1356
00:59:51.199 --> 00:59:53.440
<v Speaker 2>guys that I don't know. I mean, when you get signed,

1357
00:59:53.440 --> 00:59:56.599
<v Speaker 2>you're probably pretty good, but there's people in your class

1358
00:59:56.599 --> 00:59:59.599
<v Speaker 2>that you just don't want to do drills with. They're

1359
00:59:59.639 --> 01:00:02.079
<v Speaker 2>going to spit in you or aren't you.

1360
01:00:02.719 --> 01:00:05.079
<v Speaker 3>One of the unique unique things I think about Creative

1361
01:00:05.119 --> 01:00:08.280
<v Speaker 3>Pro is that I'm like very involved, like physically because

1362
01:00:08.320 --> 01:00:10.440
<v Speaker 3>I need the workout too. Like I'm an active pro

1363
01:00:10.480 --> 01:00:12.599
<v Speaker 3>wrestler in the prime my career here right, and I

1364
01:00:12.639 --> 01:00:16.440
<v Speaker 3>selfishly need the workout. So and now as I'm getting older, man,

1365
01:00:16.760 --> 01:00:18.599
<v Speaker 3>and I used to just do whatever, like you know,

1366
01:00:18.880 --> 01:00:21.239
<v Speaker 3>especially when Creative I first open, that original class literally

1367
01:00:21.239 --> 01:00:23.239
<v Speaker 3>got like probably the best of me because I was

1368
01:00:23.280 --> 01:00:25.519
<v Speaker 3>just in there, like sweating it out, bumping my ass

1369
01:00:25.519 --> 01:00:27.800
<v Speaker 3>off for these kids, you know. And now I'm like,

1370
01:00:28.039 --> 01:00:30.320
<v Speaker 3>sometimes I survey what's going on. I go, nope, I

1371
01:00:30.360 --> 01:00:33.079
<v Speaker 3>can't let this dude who's been here for three weeks drop.

1372
01:00:32.920 --> 01:00:35.679
<v Speaker 4>Me on my head. Yeah yeah, hell yeah.

1373
01:00:35.800 --> 01:00:38.599
<v Speaker 3>I'll kind of a kfabe something or you know, tell

1374
01:00:38.679 --> 01:00:39.440
<v Speaker 3>someone else to do it.

1375
01:00:41.320 --> 01:00:43.760
<v Speaker 2>I even gomez our boots or wrestling shoes better for

1376
01:00:43.760 --> 01:00:44.360
<v Speaker 2>a ring work.

1377
01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:48.679
<v Speaker 1>Here's a funny thing. So Bill made us wear boots,

1378
01:00:48.679 --> 01:00:52.119
<v Speaker 1>which I listen, I don't mind that, practice like you play.

1379
01:00:52.199 --> 01:00:53.519
<v Speaker 4>I think, I don't mind that. I love it.

1380
01:00:53.639 --> 01:00:56.679
<v Speaker 1>So I was used to training, you know, in NWC

1381
01:00:56.880 --> 01:00:59.599
<v Speaker 1>with my wrestling shoes, right, and I remember, so I'd

1382
01:00:59.639 --> 01:01:01.760
<v Speaker 1>only wear my boots what like once a month, twice

1383
01:01:01.760 --> 01:01:04.559
<v Speaker 1>a month, and I had high spots boots. So then

1384
01:01:04.639 --> 01:01:06.639
<v Speaker 1>once we had to wear the boots, I remember both

1385
01:01:06.719 --> 01:01:09.079
<v Speaker 1>souls like cracked in half within a week of just

1386
01:01:09.199 --> 01:01:12.039
<v Speaker 1>like drills, jails jails, jails, jails, l's jails.

1387
01:01:12.760 --> 01:01:15.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I bet my stage coach boot said I could

1388
01:01:15.639 --> 01:01:17.480
<v Speaker 3>go get out of my garage and put on right

1389
01:01:17.480 --> 01:01:19.239
<v Speaker 3>now and working them's still good to go.

1390
01:01:19.639 --> 01:01:22.039
<v Speaker 1>So but even now to this day, if I were

1391
01:01:22.079 --> 01:01:23.760
<v Speaker 1>to go to train at create a Pro or flat

1392
01:01:23.800 --> 01:01:25.639
<v Speaker 1>backs or whatever, I would wear boots. I would not

1393
01:01:26.079 --> 01:01:28.159
<v Speaker 1>do it, and sneakers or shoes.

1394
01:01:28.320 --> 01:01:30.199
<v Speaker 3>He said, practice like you play. So does it make

1395
01:01:30.199 --> 01:01:32.239
<v Speaker 3>any sense to train in wrestling shoes and then you

1396
01:01:32.280 --> 01:01:34.760
<v Speaker 3>work in boots? He's right, doesn't make any sense.

1397
01:01:34.760 --> 01:01:36.920
<v Speaker 1>Bill, listen, I don't want people to think that we

1398
01:01:36.960 --> 01:01:38.719
<v Speaker 1>didn't like Bill the way he taught us. I am

1399
01:01:38.760 --> 01:01:40.679
<v Speaker 1>so grateful for Bill, and I think he made us

1400
01:01:41.199 --> 01:01:45.400
<v Speaker 1>the men we are and and we on fuck with able.

1401
01:01:45.519 --> 01:01:47.360
<v Speaker 1>Like Brian said, I think a couple episodes ago.

1402
01:01:47.280 --> 01:01:50.960
<v Speaker 4>It was a Bill because Bill was just a maniac. Yeah.

1403
01:01:51.000 --> 01:01:52.599
<v Speaker 2>How about that kid who wanted to train with his

1404
01:01:52.639 --> 01:01:53.239
<v Speaker 2>shoes off?

1405
01:01:53.760 --> 01:01:53.880
<v Speaker 4>Yo?

1406
01:01:54.000 --> 01:01:57.039
<v Speaker 1>What is that I created? Proud?

1407
01:01:57.519 --> 01:01:58.559
<v Speaker 4>Yeah he is?

1408
01:01:58.599 --> 01:02:02.639
<v Speaker 3>He like casting text me a couple of weeks ago

1409
01:02:02.639 --> 01:02:04.639
<v Speaker 3>and like we have a cap trainers like group chat.

1410
01:02:04.719 --> 01:02:07.239
<v Speaker 3>He's like this kid trains barefoot and pattern are like,

1411
01:02:07.280 --> 01:02:09.559
<v Speaker 3>who no, well he said that he he said, they

1412
01:02:09.599 --> 01:02:11.599
<v Speaker 3>said it was okay. I'm like, I never told anyone

1413
01:02:11.639 --> 01:02:13.559
<v Speaker 3>they could train barefoot. And the Bat's like me neither.

1414
01:02:13.639 --> 01:02:14.719
<v Speaker 3>So I don't know what he talked about was like

1415
01:02:14.719 --> 01:02:16.320
<v Speaker 3>telling me but his fucking shoes back.

1416
01:02:17.440 --> 01:02:22.280
<v Speaker 4>Just the thought of that, I want to why would

1417
01:02:22.320 --> 01:02:23.440
<v Speaker 4>you want to know? It's crazy?

1418
01:02:23.559 --> 01:02:26.840
<v Speaker 2>Last question the ryman, in what ways did signing with

1419
01:02:27.000 --> 01:02:30.159
<v Speaker 2>WW change your collection.

1420
01:02:31.559 --> 01:02:33.280
<v Speaker 4>Give me more money to buy more?

1421
01:02:34.800 --> 01:02:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

1422
01:02:35.079 --> 01:02:38.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean yeah, I didn't have to caddy at

1423
01:02:38.760 --> 01:02:40.880
<v Speaker 3>a country club to pay for figures anymore.

1424
01:02:41.000 --> 01:02:43.800
<v Speaker 4>Like I was able in developmental we didn't get anything

1425
01:02:43.800 --> 01:02:46.119
<v Speaker 4>for free. We uh you know.

1426
01:02:46.800 --> 01:02:49.519
<v Speaker 1>I was able to get I was able to buy

1427
01:02:49.880 --> 01:02:53.840
<v Speaker 1>like that l JN Mint set hasbro mint set. Like

1428
01:02:55.159 --> 01:02:58.159
<v Speaker 1>not to say like money was no, like like there was.

1429
01:02:59.599 --> 01:03:02.039
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't like so plentiful, but like at the same time,

1430
01:03:02.079 --> 01:03:05.960
<v Speaker 1>we were like, like twenty twenty one years old, what

1431
01:03:06.000 --> 01:03:07.039
<v Speaker 1>real expenses did we have?

1432
01:03:07.159 --> 01:03:09.239
<v Speaker 3>So to get five hundred bucks, we're not even real

1433
01:03:09.280 --> 01:03:11.000
<v Speaker 3>wrestlers because we don't have road expenses.

1434
01:03:11.440 --> 01:03:12.760
<v Speaker 4>We're just literally paying like rent.

1435
01:03:13.400 --> 01:03:15.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. My first job

1436
01:03:15.719 --> 01:03:17.559
<v Speaker 2>out of college was sixteen thousan an hour, which is

1437
01:03:18.320 --> 01:03:20.199
<v Speaker 2>about thirty thousand a year, which is the same as

1438
01:03:20.239 --> 01:03:23.800
<v Speaker 2>you guys. And I more I thought I was a

1439
01:03:25.079 --> 01:03:28.320
<v Speaker 2>shit any video game system whatever.

1440
01:03:28.519 --> 01:03:30.639
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's how I and I used to The only

1441
01:03:30.719 --> 01:03:32.400
<v Speaker 3>other job I ever had was being a caddy, and

1442
01:03:32.440 --> 01:03:35.519
<v Speaker 3>I was just horrendous at it, like a hate off

1443
01:03:35.519 --> 01:03:37.360
<v Speaker 3>to this day because of it and whatever. But I

1444
01:03:37.400 --> 01:03:40.079
<v Speaker 3>would just be out there like daydreaming, like calculating like

1445
01:03:40.119 --> 01:03:43.119
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna get eighty bucks or this, and like jaiting juting,

1446
01:03:43.239 --> 01:03:45.519
<v Speaker 3>like figuring out like Okay, that new R three set

1447
01:03:45.639 --> 01:03:48.079
<v Speaker 3>is uh yeah, Nitro's come to the coliseum.

1448
01:03:48.159 --> 01:03:48.960
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be close.

1449
01:03:49.039 --> 01:03:50.880
<v Speaker 3>Like I literally like was just doing that and then

1450
01:03:51.400 --> 01:03:55.159
<v Speaker 3>with a regular, steady paycheck of Deep South, that's like

1451
01:03:55.159 --> 01:03:57.519
<v Speaker 3>I didn't really have to do that anymore.

1452
01:03:57.559 --> 01:03:57.960
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah.

1453
01:03:57.960 --> 01:04:00.480
<v Speaker 1>But it also taught me about like, oh, you have

1454
01:04:00.559 --> 01:04:02.239
<v Speaker 1>to pay taxes at the end of the year. Like

1455
01:04:02.639 --> 01:04:04.480
<v Speaker 1>you don't get to keep all this money, you know,

1456
01:04:04.519 --> 01:04:07.880
<v Speaker 1>because you're independent contractors technically, so like you got to

1457
01:04:07.880 --> 01:04:11.599
<v Speaker 1>give a big chunk of change to the taxman. And

1458
01:04:11.639 --> 01:04:13.840
<v Speaker 1>the more money you make, the more you gotta give.

1459
01:04:14.559 --> 01:04:15.079
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1460
01:04:15.280 --> 01:04:18.000
<v Speaker 3>That was something that Mikey said to us about taxes

1461
01:04:18.039 --> 01:04:21.440
<v Speaker 3>that I just never didn't register till much later on.

1462
01:04:21.920 --> 01:04:23.480
<v Speaker 4>Right. I don't know if you remember this.

1463
01:04:23.519 --> 01:04:25.039
<v Speaker 3>I remember one time we were Mikey and we did

1464
01:04:25.039 --> 01:04:27.039
<v Speaker 3>a show and we were at the gas station and

1465
01:04:27.079 --> 01:04:29.639
<v Speaker 3>then you know sometimes people leave their receipt in there

1466
01:04:30.400 --> 01:04:32.280
<v Speaker 3>in the gas thing. Yeah, he pulled it out and

1467
01:04:32.280 --> 01:04:33.719
<v Speaker 3>put in his pocket. I was like, why'd you do that?

1468
01:04:33.760 --> 01:04:36.119
<v Speaker 3>And he's like, so I can uses the tax right off.

1469
01:04:38.280 --> 01:04:39.079
<v Speaker 2>That's smart.

1470
01:04:39.400 --> 01:04:39.679
<v Speaker 4>I know.

1471
01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:43.440
<v Speaker 1>I was like thinking about it, like I guess I

1472
01:04:43.440 --> 01:04:46.480
<v Speaker 1>I for like the maybe the first three years, actually

1473
01:04:46.559 --> 01:04:49.400
<v Speaker 1>kept receipts and then I realized, wait a minute, it's

1474
01:04:49.440 --> 01:04:52.039
<v Speaker 1>on the credit card. Yeah, and now like my Bank

1475
01:04:52.079 --> 01:04:56.360
<v Speaker 1>of America automatically like categorizes it. Yes, oh my god,

1476
01:04:56.559 --> 01:04:58.639
<v Speaker 1>like my receipt the whole.

1477
01:04:58.400 --> 01:04:59.360
<v Speaker 4>Second run with WB.

1478
01:04:59.480 --> 01:05:03.159
<v Speaker 3>I just have one MX that I use for me

1479
01:05:03.239 --> 01:05:06.320
<v Speaker 3>as an independent contractor, like whatever, you know, and it's

1480
01:05:06.320 --> 01:05:06.679
<v Speaker 3>just done.

1481
01:05:06.719 --> 01:05:07.360
<v Speaker 4>It does itself.

1482
01:05:07.400 --> 01:05:09.639
<v Speaker 3>I used to just have shoe boxes full of receipts

1483
01:05:09.679 --> 01:05:10.960
<v Speaker 3>on all the stupid ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, unbelievable, unbelievable. But I also don't use cash now,

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01:05:17.000 --> 01:05:20.320
<v Speaker 1>so like for it's not like I'm going out back

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01:05:20.320 --> 01:05:22.159
<v Speaker 1>and using cash where I need to keep that receipt.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I'm saying.

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01:05:23.039 --> 01:05:26.000
<v Speaker 1>If I'm using cash, it's for something that like I'm

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01:05:26.039 --> 01:05:28.519
<v Speaker 1>not gonna be able to write off anyway, A shady

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01:05:28.559 --> 01:05:30.119
<v Speaker 1>toy deal with it, you know what I'm saying, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I could. I don't think I can

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01:05:31.599 --> 01:05:35.480
<v Speaker 1>write off these PSA graded cards. You know, maybe I can,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but I'm not gonna ask, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for a receipt.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, all right, Well that'll do it for developmental.

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01:05:44.119 --> 01:05:45.599
<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure we'll come back to it. I'm sure

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01:05:45.599 --> 01:05:47.039
<v Speaker 1>there's stuff we missed, but let's.

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01:05:46.880 --> 01:05:47.880
<v Speaker 4>No more to talk about.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you guys are loving these, it's yeah, unbelievably

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<v Speaker 3>easy for me to talk about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe do you want to put it? We could put

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01:05:53.400 --> 01:05:55.440
<v Speaker 2>a poll in the group. Do we move on to?

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01:05:55.960 --> 01:05:56.239
<v Speaker 4>I think?

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01:05:56.280 --> 01:05:57.760
<v Speaker 1>I think we move on and then come back. I

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01:05:57.760 --> 01:06:01.400
<v Speaker 1>think we move on to Major Brothers right before Edgeheads.

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01:06:01.519 --> 01:06:05.199
<v Speaker 1>I would really talk about there about Major brother Edgeheads?

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01:06:05.480 --> 01:06:07.400
<v Speaker 2>Why why not? Wasn't it a year run?

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<v Speaker 3>I also come back and like to do one with

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01:06:10.800 --> 01:06:12.559
<v Speaker 3>with Gallows or like with Heath.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, by the way, you can buy some great DVDs.

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01:06:17.000 --> 01:06:19.719
<v Speaker 2>I was present for the one that Brian did with

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01:06:19.920 --> 01:06:25.719
<v Speaker 2>Jenny Omega and Sammy Callahan. Brian had a show on

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01:06:25.800 --> 01:06:29.079
<v Speaker 2>High Spots called Developmentally Speaking, where he interviewed different wrestlers

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01:06:29.079 --> 01:06:33.719
<v Speaker 2>about developmental So it's literally the same thing. So some

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01:06:33.760 --> 01:06:35.360
<v Speaker 2>great stuff there that would be cool if we had

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01:06:35.440 --> 01:06:37.559
<v Speaker 2>I think that these are the gems of the Patreon thing,

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01:06:37.599 --> 01:06:39.280
<v Speaker 2>and it's only in Heart Foundation, so a lot of

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01:06:39.320 --> 01:06:43.519
<v Speaker 2>people are missing out, but these are these, These are great.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's let's do Major Brothers into Edgeheads.

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<v Speaker 2>But next time, how long is that Major Brothers? One year?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I have a million questions.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think Major Brothers could be. I think Major

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<v Speaker 1>Bus be.

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<v Speaker 2>To December, but I want to know, like, what was

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01:07:00.239 --> 01:07:02.679
<v Speaker 2>it like on the I have so many road questions,

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01:07:02.800 --> 01:07:04.440
<v Speaker 2>like going from developmental to the w.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's let's let's do it next time. Major Brothers.

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<v Speaker 2>Slow it down. Yeah, let's Major Brothers first getting called

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<v Speaker 2>up to the big show that's coming next month to

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01:07:15.000 --> 01:07:15.639
<v Speaker 2>our foundation.

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks for joining us, everybody, were the times

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<v Speaker 4>Busts
