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Jackson Payn of the Desertrat News. Jackson, how the heck

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are you?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 3: Hey, what's up then? How you doing? I'm I'm thriving,

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ex sad for this game.

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Speaker 1: I know, man, I am too. Uh, this basketball seams

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has been fun, no doubt about it. You you look

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at the most formidable foes. Obviously, you Connel on the

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road and a neutral site that kind of was a

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home game for them with being so close to their home.

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You get Texas Tech on the road. That was a

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tough one. We saw what Texas Tech did to Houston.

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They got them on their home court. So that's not

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a bad loss when you really you know, Choco it

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all up. We knew it wasn't gonna be a bad loss,

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but you begin to feel a little bit better about

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that loss. Now you have U of A at home.

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Where would you rank out this U of A game.

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It's the number one team of the country, you're at home.

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How difficult will it be from you know, is this

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the most difficult game BYU's faced all season?

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Speaker 3: I think so. It's because it's the number one team

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in the country, right, I mean, obviously the Yukon game

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was unique because it was cross country travel. You were

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down two starters when Caba got hurt pretty pretty early

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in the game. It's pretty much a home game for Yukon.

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But at the same time, this is the number one

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team in the country coming to Provo. I mean that

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has happened once before. When when Gonzaga came in twenty seventeen, Yes,

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or it's probably I think it's happened a couple other times,

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but it hasn't happened in almost ten years. There's a

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stigma that comes with playing the top team in the

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country and at the same time too, like that Yukon game.

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was also college football weekend. Might have flown under the

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radar nationally, but this is like this, this has some buzz.

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number one team versus the number one player in the country.

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in the Big twelve schedule. This is gonna be a

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real test for both teams. And I mean, if by

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gets a win night, we got to be talking about

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possibly the best win in program history. Would be just unprecedented.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what what needs that happen in order to get

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a win tonight? Do you think at the marriage center

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Arizona they don't rely some on the three,

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so they do a lot of damage inside. So I

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think buy has got to really defend the paint well

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you're you're gonna need. Obviously Keva and and and Ahmed.

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and just having them down there as such a such

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a positive presence for for Y's defense. But I think

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Davis is gonna start start tonight, but if he doesn't,

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whoever they throw in there, whether it's Boop or Boskovic,

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team because it's a really big Arizona team. Like I said,

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they do a lot of work down low. By is

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a big Richie game. Like AJ. You can count on

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him for twenty five a night, it feels like, especially

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after he just dropped forty three at Utah against Utah.

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this team. He always gives you. But Richie, it's been

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a little feast or famine with him, and more much

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more feast than famine, I should say he's averaging close to

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nineteen points a game, but he isn't shooting great in

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Big twelve play, and it would just be great to

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see him have a legacy night. Obviously he's the villain

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and on Arizona side from last year's game when he

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hit the free throws to win. But you're gonna need

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to see a twenty piece or more from Richie to

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get BYU to win tonight.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this AJ went off right if

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forty three points saw a a freshman record, obviously, I

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think you You followed pretty closely the Jimmermania era. Uh

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and I got to watch that not probably up close

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in also from Afar. Will anything ever match jimmer Mania?

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Is there anything that AJ can do to match the

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one the only Jimmermania year?

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Speaker 3: Man, I Jimmermania was just so one of one, you know,

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like it was just we all knew Jimmer was an

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All American type coming into the season, but for him,

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just the way that he played and just he had

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this hypnotic jump shot that just caught you in a

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trance right like it just it was from like I

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was ten years old going on eleven, when when Jimmer

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was in his senior year, and for me, the thing

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that really resonated about Jimmer is he didn't he wasn't

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the greatest athlete, Like, he didn't have a Greek god physique.

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kind of a normal looking dude doing incredible things on

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the basketball court. So it gave you hope, like, hey,

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I can do things incredible things in my life too.

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athletes to ever play at b YU. He's he should

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be playing in the NBA right now, but he's bracing

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our presence here in Provo. So I think, I mean, clearly,

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those some of those games, and just the national attention

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that he caught and just it was it was a

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viral phenomenon, right, I mean, when was the last time

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college basketball was just so caught? When? And when was

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the last time the entire college basketball world fell so

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in love with one person? Maybe Zion in twenty eighteen

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with Duke, But I mean, it's it's it's tough to

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there's this reverence for Aj where you know, he's the

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number one pick, he's the he's the top player in

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the country. It's it's not a surprise anymore when b

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pick in Diegor Demon and they went to the they

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went to the Sweetest teen and so and and AJ

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has been rumored and then on his way for such

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a long time. It's so obviously Aj is the better player.

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I don't think anybody's gonna deny that. And I think,

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you know, if Aja takes Py to a Final four,

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if he wins the Naysmith Player of the Year award,

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we can revisit this conversation. But just the magic and

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just the it was like a Disney movie with Jimmer,

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you know, It's just everything about that year was just

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so just magical. I mean, I keep using that word

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over and over again. As a writer, I wish I

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had more adjective than and better descriptive words, because you know,

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I get paid to think of words, but just I'm

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at a loss for words with with that Jimmer year,

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it was just so much fun. It was such an

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incredible year and just the magic of that year won't

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be replicated. But like I said, if BYU goes to

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the final four, if AJ does some incredible things in

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the tournament and down the stretch in the season, we

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can revisit that conversation because it all starts tonight, right,

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This is fifteen years to the day of Jimmer taking

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down San Diego State at the Merriage Center, most electric

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night in the history of the Merriot Center. And so

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if you get to one night, I mean, maybe maybe

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Speaker 2: Man, it would be You'd be awesome. I was there.

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Speaker 1: I beheld the greatness of Marmania in that game when

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he dropped forty three. It's truly an iconic and singular

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time for BYU fans everywhere and college basketball fans everywhere.

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It was it was awesome to watch, still emblazoned, you know,

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just in my mind never you know, it's kind of

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Speaker 2: It seems. Let's talk some football here, fro a monent.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna ask you this question here, Like I

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was just reviewing seeing what you've been talking about on

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Twitter Jackson congratulations to Tyler Huntley on no longer being

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the worst Pro Bowl quarterback in history. Sources, Brown's quarterback

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Shotter Center has been added to the Pro Bowl roster.

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It's about five hours regard as a replacement Sanders of

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the first fifth round rookie to make a Pro Bowl

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since Puka Nakua. Have you received any hate mail from

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Utah fans after this tweet?

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Speaker 3: I'll give you one guess, Ah.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Look, I mean I don't know often even I mean, Ben,

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you know me.

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Speaker 3: I'm not a troll. I'm not trying to poke the bear.

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is the worst Pro Bowl quarterback ever. Like he threw

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two touchdowns and four picks that year he started like

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two games, and Shad Like, I mean, look, I'm not

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a shader guy. I've never had been. I enjoyed watching

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Byu blow the brakes off of him in Colorado in

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the Alimo bole. But like, what are we doing here

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with the Pro Bowl?

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Speaker 2: Uh? Man?

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Speaker 1: I think Sean Merriman for former NFL Gray and he

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was surrounded by a little bit of controversy. I think

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it is h in his latter years in the NFL.

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But I mean he took the twitters like, man, he

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used to mean something to go to the pro ball.

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Now it's uh, now it doesn't mean the thing. But

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I was just like, if I tweeted that out, I

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would people would be calling for my job, Jackson Paye,

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I kid you not. They'd be calling Broadway, ESPN saying

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you need to fire him.

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Speaker 2: He's a racist, he's a bigot.

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Speaker 1: Like and I it looks it looks like they're just

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kind of commenting on the on the feed.

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Speaker 2: They're not. They're not asking you to be fired for

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such a tweet.

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Speaker 3: Right, No, I mean I think people know we journalists

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need our jobs, food on table. They're taking city on me.

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like I knew you saw fans would take it personally,

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rile them up like it's it's a compliment. You know,

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I'm saying that Tyler Huntley's better than ben A. Sanders.

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They should be. They should be looking at it the

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other way. I don't know what the doom and gloom

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is on their ends.

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Speaker 1: Well, they're still reeling from the back to back losses

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to the BAU basketball team.

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Speaker 2: You know, still they're trying to find their way.

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Speaker 1: Do you think they're convinced that they're going to be

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just as good or better with Morgan Scalley at the

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Helm and Kyle Withingham leaving and taking many coaches and

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many football players with him.

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Speaker 3: Dan Harbor, I mean, look, you see some of the

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more confident and outspoken voices on social media. I mean,

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I just think the most realistic of fans would have

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to think, like, Okay, Kyle Adingham is the best coach

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Utail's ever had. He had an unprecedented run at a

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I mean, the fact that he stayed at Utah as

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long as he did is really impressive and admirable. I mean,

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for everything about Whittingham that that BYU fans dislike and

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whatever the reasons may be, just you got to show

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the respect that he was at Utah for twenty plus years,

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like that's to do that in this day and age

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is really admirable. And obviously he went to Michigan, he

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took everything with him. So I think people aren't gonna

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be willing to maybe look at that perspective right now.

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But I don't know, Man, Scali's never been a head coach.

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It's a tough it's a tough transition obviously, Like you

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look at Kilanie. When Kalani got hired at BYU, he

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had never been a head coach before, and so that

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was it took him a while. And maybe you know,

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knock off some of the the the early head coach rust,

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I mean, for lack of a better term, like you

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got to grow into that position. You know, that's probably

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a better way of putting it. And so Scally, I mean,

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it's just it's just a matter of how he grows

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into that. And sometimes you know, guys take the mantle

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they run with it, like like Whittingham did twenty years ago.

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But I don't know, it'd be really interesting to see

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and I just I don't know. It's not a great

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roster coming back for them this year. It was a

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really senior heavy group and Whittingham's taken a lot of

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their best players, and so it would be a really

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cool sports story if if if Scally was able to

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rally the truth and go eight and four and defy expectations.

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And you know, I think when when you play for

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a program and you coach there forever like he is

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Utah football, and so if you can pap into that

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and some of that passion, I mean, maybe it can

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go either way, right, I mean sometimes it's a disaster,

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sometimes it works great, as you see was like Kilani

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and so I don't know. It's I'm not optimistic about

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Utah next year obviously, anytime do why you plays in

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Salt Lake is gonna be a tough test. But I

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just I don't see. I think I think Utah got

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like I mean, maybe an eight and four ceiling next year,

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and if that's being generous, but we'll see. You never

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know what happens on the portal and maybe maybe Devin

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Dampier is the heisman that UH Utah fans think he is.

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Speaker 1: Where's the rivalry at from your your vantage point? Obviously

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football they've won three in a row. It seems like

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they're trending in very much the right direction. Basketball they

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got to this year, but they've lost their their fair

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share at the Huntsman there was a little bit of

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a uh maybe a dip, especially as you went up

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to the Huntsman Center. But where do we stand in

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the in the rivalry? Right now, do you think there's

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like an increased pressure on the on the utes Mark

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Carlin too, to make these knee jerk reaction moves in

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order to stay competitive, stay relevant, keep their winning ways

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that they've uh that they've they've had over the last

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decade plus.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think it's hard not to feel

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pressure just because it's a rival that the decade before

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you you kind of dominated, Right, you still had one

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nine straight over by U in football and in basketball,

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you know, it's always a toss up with that game.

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Larry Larry k had some good teams, Utah made the

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Sweet sixteen, they had some NBA guys, Like it's just

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there was a whole year where they didn't even play

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that whole debacle. Like, I don't know, It's just it's

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always gonna be an eventful rivalry. And I think at

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the same time, like Utah had an advantage in terms

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of conference resources and recruiting being in the Pac twelve

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and BYU being independent and WCC and you taugh took

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advantage of that, and now you know they're on a

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level conference playing field, and BYU seems to have a

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better nil base or more vocal or the results of

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the nil spending are bringing more positive results. I'm being

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very careful how I say this. I don't know if

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you can tell. Yeah, I think you know, it's just

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I think it's in a game like that, anything can happen.

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All three of these past losses to BYU and football

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have been pretty close. I think the the twenty twenty

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one game, twenty six to seventeen final score, that one

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felt like at twenty five point BYU win by the

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end of it, and then of course they went on

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the field goal. And then last year they win by

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three points in a game that you know, maybe both

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coaches did some some interesting coaching decisions that could have

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left points on the table, right, And so you know

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they've they've lost three games that two of those three

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probably could have gone either way. And then in basketball,

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you know BYU still struggles up on the hill. They

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they they won this time, but they won each of

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the they lost each of the past two years. I

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think Jensen is gonna make these these games against Kevin

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Young really interesting. I think it's gonna be a really

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competitive rivalry and maybe maybe the results won't show it.

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I mean, just maybe BYU wins twenty in a row

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in basketball against Utah. Maybe they keep winning in football,

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but the games themselves are gonna be close and anything

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can happen. And if you look back at the nine

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game win streak that Utah held over BYU, obviously you

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could tell BYU, I mean, or you could tell Utah

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held the upper hand in the rivalry just with everything.

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But also seven of those games were toss up games,

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right Like, they're only two blowouts, and those nine losses

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that BUYU suffered at the hand of Utah. So's it's

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a healthy rivalry. I mean, it adds and flows, and

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I think b YU right now is the king of

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the castle in terms of the state of Utah, and

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it's up to Utah on and maybe be more competitive

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and figure things out to even the score. But yeah,

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I mean, I just for me, like I just I

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like when the on field product is really fun and

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and and what's the word, uh just I like when

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it's it's an endearing product product on the field, and

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it feel like that we've we've had that with the

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last few football basketball games, and that's all you can

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ask for. And so hopefully Utah, you know, I mean,

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it'd be interesting if they even things up, but we'll

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see what happens.

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Speaker 1: I just wonder if Mark Harley kind of felt enough

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pressure to say, hey, we got a head coach in

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waiting right here, we need to make a move. Let's

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bring in the outro capital deal. Let's usher Kyle Whittingham out.

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Let's bring Morgan Scalley in. That set off a domino effect, right. Obviously,

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Kyweneham goes the ORB, gets the the Michigan job on

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at the top five jobs probably in college football per

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many tendance and analysts and and a pineers out there,

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and with that takes much of you know, some key

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roster additions there from Utah. And then obviously he's OC

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Jason Beck. And then Jay Hill, the assistant head coach

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and defits coordinator of BYU. I don't know if you

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saw this just came out, I don't know, three days ago.

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Jason Beck's salary three million, j Hill's salary two point

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six million. So when I was hearing the rumors ride

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and that Jay Hill was being targeted, I was told

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that the money wasn't that much more than what BYU

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was offering to stay in provo, that there wasn't that big.

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Speaker 2: Of a difference.

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Speaker 1: He got paid two point six million, and so if

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it's not that big of a difference, I say it's

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two million upwards the two two point three million or

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something like that.

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Speaker 2: We don't have verified numbers, but I.

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Speaker 1: Was told from a few different sources that hey, they're

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not too far off comparatively speaking. So what does that say,

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I guess about this this j Hill move in your opinion?

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And also what does it say about how competitive b

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YU is. I b Yu's at least, you know, boxing

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in the same weight class of Michigan. With retention and

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acquisition of coaches, what does that say about Bou's future

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athletically do you think in the football department?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean with this last Kilwey extension, they really

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emphasize the additional resources for the program, and I think

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you're seeing that in this transfer cycle where b YU

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has kept all of its most important pieces on the roster,

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Like just the roster attention that BYU has managed to

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achieve this winter has it's unprecedented in this.

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Speaker 1: Day and age.

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Speaker 3: And you know, maybe maybe it's not all about money.

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Maybe that's a naive take, but maybe there's the loyalty

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to Kilani into the program and people wanting to win

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and you know, unfinished business here at BYU. But also

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the money has to factor in because if you if

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you throw life chanting money at somebody, it's really hard

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to turn that down in a lot of places. And

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so I just credit to BYU for ponying up there

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and I mean being able. I don't I don't pretend

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I've never talked to Jay Hill one on one off record,

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right like I've I don't know how he thinks or

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what maybe went into his decision making, but maybe you know,

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people need a fresh start. Sometimes people need a change

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of scenery. And I don't I don't know exactly why

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he left for Michigan, but you know, wish I'm the

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best there. But it's it's really encouraging to know that BYU,

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you know, they made a competitive offer to him, and

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they were in the same ballpark as Michigan when it

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came to salary. And so yeah, going forward, like when

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BYU makes these hires like they can, they can shell

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out the big money that they need to bring top

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coaching talent to Provo and they're able to keep their

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guys like when you when you watch it, Evan Johnson

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or a Trey Alexander or at Isaiah Glasker, and you're like,

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man Like, at a smaller school, you might be like, Okay,

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well it's gonna be fun having him until he leaves, right, Like,

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I remember when by You played Delaware earlier this season,

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Delaware had a player that was lighting it up for

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a bit and at the half time, I'm sure where

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the post game show one of the two on CBS

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Sports Network, one of the analysts like, well, Delaware fans

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a joy him because he's going to be planning a

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bigger school next year. And that's a bumber to hear

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if you're a fan of a smaller school. But at BUYU, like,

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that's not the case. You get these guys, you keep

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these guys for life, hopefully, and with the financial and

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investment that they're making into the athletics at BUYU, it's

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really seeming that way. So yeah, I mean just BYU, Like, look, obviously, Utah,

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you could say that the private equity deal or whatever

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else they're doing, you could say it's a response to BYU,

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but it's also response to just to college football as

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a whole. Like Indiana just won the national championship, Indiana

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had a lot of financial backing to make that possible.

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Vanderbilt has come out of nowhere to be a power

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in the SEC, both in football and basketball. Like you

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stroke checks, you win games in a lot of these schools,

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and so BYU credits to BYU there. They're figuring that out.

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They're spending money, but they're also spending money smartly and wisely,

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and they're doing it with a vision that's that you

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can match. I just think, you know, you can't just

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write the biggest checks. You got to have vision, You

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got to have a plan. And BYU seems to have

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those plays, those things in place along with with a

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better financial investment. So I feel very very confident about

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by you going into this unprecedented era of college athletics

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because you know, it just seems like they're the money

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that they're spending is doing the right thing.

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Speaker 2: Is Utah officially, little brother? Do you think.

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Speaker 3: If you ask the Rock on Saturday, they would say, yes,

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they were there was that chance, But uh.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I think you know b YU has had the success

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against Utah lately, but also Utah. You know they they

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won they beat thee and basketball last year. If they

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beat them in basketball the year before. Sure's I think

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I think By's going to really blow out Utah and

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football a couple of times and uh maybe win a

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couple more basketball games before we all start running with

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the little brother thing. But you know, it's just that

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this is what, this is what makes a rivalry great,

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Like it's the pride of it. Obviously the scriptures teach

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us to avoid pride, but sometimes look when the Commanders

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beat the Eagles, I'm I'm never going to shut up

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about It's the greatest thing in my world. So when

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when when b Yu beats Utah, I don't blame Cougar

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fans for taking their victor relap like do it, enjoy it.

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This is what makes sport great, like don't be don't

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be a jerk about it. But also like sing your

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little brother chance like that's that's that's the fun of it.

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So I mean, I think you know By clearly has

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the upper hand of the rivalry. But let's let's wait

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a little bit on my end before we start saying

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little brother just for the you know, just for for

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the sake of mercy.

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Speaker 1: Hey, what have you been writing about? What can what

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can you preview?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 1: In Tyser Swift the head on over to the desrat

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News website.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'll have a lot of coverage about

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tonight's game. If if b YU wins, obviously I might

495
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be up all night writing about it because it would

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be such an important win for the program. I got

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a story. I spent a day with the women's basketball

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program a couple of weeks ago, talked to Leekamard for

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a bit, talk to a bunch of the players and coaches.

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Really excited to put together kind of a deep dive

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into the women's basketball program at BYU. That's having an

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awesome year. Lee Kamard, perfect tire, They're they're doing awesome things.

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Hopefully they make the Instituablely Tournament because that would be

504
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quite the turnaround. And yeah, I mean Lee, Lee's a

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great coach. I'm a big fan of leave, always have been,

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and what he's done this year has been awesome. And

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so I hope, I hope Cougar fans flot to read

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that one and appreciate what Lee Kamar one of like

509
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the BYU guys of all time, is doing for the

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women's basketball program.

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Speaker 1: Love it, check it out, Follow Jackson on Twitter and

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read all this stuff at the deser Red News. Jackson

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will see at the game today. Thanks so much for

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joining us for a cougar beat.

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Speaker 3: Yeah any times.

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Speaker 2: See you guys there go.

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Speaker 1: That's Jackson pain breaking it all down here on a

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Speaker 1: Cougar Nation plenty to get to on a Monday, January

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