Speaker 1: Oh, be.
Speaker 2: Trigger warn This podcast may include explicit content that will
Speaker 2: take you out of your comfort zone and make you
Speaker 2: question reality. Listeners, discretion is advised.
Speaker 3: Hello, and welcome to the finale twenty twenty four Panties
Speaker 3: on the Floor, Ghost Demons and more Halloween special and
Speaker 3: I may have saved the best for last today as
Speaker 3: Colby from one of my all time favorite podcasts, Conspiracy Playtime,
Speaker 3: joins us today. Colby and I will be breaking down
Speaker 3: Ghostbusters Part one and two today, looking for all the
Speaker 3: occult symbolism within. I hope you all have an amazing Halloween.
Speaker 3: I know I will, and I'll see you back next
Speaker 3: month to continue with Program to Kill. I'm so fucking excited.
Speaker 2: Let's go. All right, everyone, welcome back to another episode
Speaker 2: of Cosmic Peach podcast tonight. It is the monthly breakdown
Speaker 2: Shakedown and I didn't plan this, but it's Colby yet again.
Speaker 2: We're having back to back Colby. So what's that, Colt?
Speaker 4: Back to back? All right? That's a special I'm doing.
Speaker 4: All right, it's a early afternoon where I'm at. So
Speaker 4: my drink is an acceptable daytime drink. I'm ready to go.
Speaker 2: What are you drinking over there?
Speaker 4: It's a mangmosa, A mangmosa, mangmosa.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm just gonna guess it's mango juice and
Speaker 2: champagne or wine or something.
Speaker 4: Ding ding ding, Yeah, mango juice. And I got the
Speaker 4: thick mango pirae. So it's kind of like ecto.
Speaker 2: How fitting for our episode?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: All right, So I'm having wood freud reserve meat and
Speaker 2: I'm chasing it with this new thing I discovered. It's
Speaker 2: called Ollipop, and it's classic Routier flavor. But get this shit, Colby.
Speaker 2: It's thirty five calories. It literally it's water, but it
Speaker 2: tastes just like freaking root beer. And it says, our
Speaker 2: old fashioned Routier melds just the right mix of classic
Speaker 2: bite and creamy sweetness with extracts of sweet birch, smooth
Speaker 2: vanilla bean and real burdock root. This is water, mind you.
Speaker 2: It doesn't say so. It says thirty five calories zero
Speaker 2: on everything. And it says total sugar's two grams, which isn't.
Speaker 4: Too bad, Oh not at all. And I see it's
Speaker 4: got probiotics and plant five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it has probiotics and bochanical yep. It says a
Speaker 2: new kind of soda. I'm not shitting you. This tastes
Speaker 2: just like barks, and really I don't feel guilty drinking it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, soda is horrible for you. I drink it in
Speaker 4: high school and I played sports and I'd be really
Speaker 4: thirsty and I'd go slam them out and do and
Speaker 4: then wonder if I was having like heart palpitations at night.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that is so hilarious. I used to
Speaker 2: drink I well, I'm a Coca Cola kind of person,
Speaker 2: but I used to drink Cokes all the time, and
Speaker 2: it's really just sugar with bubbles. So I cut I
Speaker 2: cut that out. But it's cool to be able to
Speaker 2: like drink this with alcohol because they totally cancel each
Speaker 2: other out right. I got my free biotics and my
Speaker 2: straight whiskey.
Speaker 4: There you go.
Speaker 2: But you know, Kolby, there's there's been like something strange
Speaker 2: going on in my neighborhood, and I was wondering if
Speaker 2: you knew anyone I could call.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would call Melissa McCarthy, Kate McKinnon. I hear.
Speaker 4: They're the new boss bitches in town. They are the
Speaker 4: feminized the ghost Busters Ghostbusters. I hope we don't even
Speaker 4: talk about that movie, aside from the little slame joke
Speaker 4: I just made because I got like halfway through that
Speaker 4: and then I broke it over my knee and ended
Speaker 4: up paying thirteen dollars to red Box. I thought it
Speaker 4: was totally worth it to shatter that thing, so no one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hated that one. But we are talking about
Speaker 2: the classic nineteen eighty four Ghostbusters for our breakdown shakedown.
Speaker 5: Ghosts.
Speaker 6: Hello, Ghostbusters, they're real.
Speaker 2: You do you have?
Speaker 5: They're here? Ghostbusters?
Speaker 4: Hey, and we see a ghost.
Speaker 5: They catch the ghost that woes stay dead. They're armed,
Speaker 5: they're dangerous.
Speaker 7: Try to imagine all life as you know, it's stopping
Speaker 7: instantaneously and every molecule in your body exploding at.
Speaker 4: The speed of light.
Speaker 5: That's bad.
Speaker 8: Okay, all right, important safety tip.
Speaker 2: Thanks Eger.
Speaker 5: They're professionals.
Speaker 1: All.
Speaker 8: I'm the chairman of the largest paranormal removal company in America.
Speaker 5: They're all. Let stand between you and the end of the.
Speaker 8: The city is headed for a disaster of biblical proportion.
Speaker 9: Real wrath of God type stuff.
Speaker 10: Fire and brimstone coming down from the sky.
Speaker 8: Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together, Massistaria.
Speaker 11: Your girlfriend lives in the corner Penthouse of Spooks Central.
Speaker 5: You want this body?
Speaker 4: Is this a trick question?
Speaker 1: Stick?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 12: Um?
Speaker 4: Make him hard?
Speaker 5: Ghostbusters starring Bill Murray, Dannacoyd, Sigourney Weaver, Haddle, Ramis, Rick
Speaker 5: moranis coming.
Speaker 4: To save the world.
Speaker 5: Who don't go Ghostbusters.
Speaker 2: I'm really excited about this. We're gonna be actually talking
Speaker 2: about Ghostbusters one and two and I have a surprise
Speaker 2: for you. Quobe and let me. I'm pulling it up
Speaker 2: right now. Okay, here we go. I want to do
Speaker 2: this in the beginning because I do not want you
Speaker 2: to have any help. Is it a quiz, It's a
Speaker 2: quiz of sorts. Yes, We're going to play Ghostbusters Jeopardy
Speaker 2: to start off our episode. All right, awesome, and now
Speaker 2: this is just for part one. Okay, ready, yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: all right, you're I'm team one and your team No,
Speaker 2: you your Team one and I'm team two. Okay, So
Speaker 2: what is your first category?
Speaker 4: I'll take quotes for three hundred.
Speaker 2: Quotes for three Lewis Tolley, even though you do your
Speaker 2: own taxes, finish the quote?
Speaker 4: What is even though you really shouldn't.
Speaker 2: I can't believe you remembered.
Speaker 4: I watched it two nights ago, and I love veras
Speaker 4: in this movie.
Speaker 2: I'm going to answer it as well. Can we play
Speaker 2: the same questions or no? No, I'll just let you
Speaker 2: have to because I think it's like you do your
Speaker 2: own taxes, which I highly recommend you don't, or something
Speaker 2: like that. Let's see, let's see which you shouldn't do.
Speaker 7: You know?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was half right because I didn't say do
Speaker 4: you know?
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're getting a point.
Speaker 4: You're very lenient, thank you.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, oh my god. Okay, So I'm gonna do
Speaker 2: the technology for four hundred. What does Egon advise the
Speaker 2: other Ghostbusters to not do to the trap? Let me
Speaker 2: read that again. What does Egon advise the other Ghostbusters
Speaker 2: to not do to the trap? To the trap? Don't
Speaker 2: look inside of it?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I agree, but I think they asked it wrong
Speaker 4: because it's Ray that says it, and Egon says, oh,
Speaker 4: I looked in the trap, right, yes.
Speaker 2: So this question it's not to look in the trap though, ye.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's okay. Can you hear that?
Speaker 2: Don't look directly into the trap?
Speaker 4: Well, this is see we're already correcting the game, because
Speaker 4: I guarantee you that's Ray that.
Speaker 2: Says that I promise you it is, and he's like,
Speaker 2: oh shit, I looked into the trap.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's making this real like crazy ass face.
Speaker 2: Okay, what is your next category?
Speaker 4: Let's do cast for three hundred this one? Yeah, or
Speaker 4: supporting cast?
Speaker 5: I guess?
Speaker 2: Okay, what is the name of the actress who played
Speaker 2: Lewis Tully's dance partner at the party at his apartment?
Speaker 2: If you know this, I'm gonna freak the fuck out.
Speaker 4: But you know what's funny is I listened to a
Speaker 4: podcast yesterday and the guy actually said it. But I
Speaker 4: have no fucking idea, no memory.
Speaker 2: I had never seen that actress before that movie and
Speaker 2: never again since she's.
Speaker 4: Probably a supermodelism, I guess she's something.
Speaker 2: Are you taking an L on this one? Or you
Speaker 2: gonna guess?
Speaker 4: Okay, I gotta take the L. I mean, I'm sure
Speaker 4: if I guess it's like Suzanne Jones or something and
Speaker 4: I'm wrong, I get the loss anyway. So Suzanne Jones,
Speaker 4: why not?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 4: Jeane Casey Shit, I didn't know that because that's Casey
Speaker 4: Casem's wife and he's also in the movie.
Speaker 2: Oh well, yeah, because he does the radio intro thing
Speaker 2: and he's like the Boys in Blues, look get out
Speaker 2: Heskey Poltergeist.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then Larry King I right after him, before
Speaker 4: he even on TV. He was strictly radio back then,
Speaker 4: King smoking a stig. Hopefully that's not a question.
Speaker 2: Later on, I'm going to do the ghost for five hundred.
Speaker 2: The ghosts in the library performed? What type of book stacking? Vertical?
Speaker 2: So easy?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 2: No, symmetrical? I lost so much for my memory. Are
Speaker 2: metrical book stocking?
Speaker 4: Shouldn't you have minus three hundred on the last one
Speaker 4: for me?
Speaker 2: No, it's just zero. This is cosmic peach.
Speaker 4: Okay, all play by your rules. I was just curious, okay.
Speaker 2: Because if we get it wrong, we get zero points
Speaker 2: and our score stays the same. If we get it right,
Speaker 2: we get extra points.
Speaker 4: Perfect, so I'm.
Speaker 2: Not subtracting anybody's points.
Speaker 4: In the movie. During that symmetrical book stacking scene, Ray says,
Speaker 4: it's like the mess the Philadelphia mass turbulence of nineteen
Speaker 4: forty seven, And I wrote to look into that because
Speaker 4: I wanted to see if that was a real thing.
Speaker 4: I'm sure it is, But anyway, little side.
Speaker 2: Note, that's interesting. What's your category let's do the men
Speaker 2: for five hundred. Okay, what degree or degrees does Peter
Speaker 2: Rankman hold? What the fuck question is this?
Speaker 4: He holds two degrees. He holds a degree in parapsychology
Speaker 4: and psychology.
Speaker 2: That's hard. Let's see if you're right, you get five
Speaker 2: hundred points.
Speaker 4: Do you remember that scene when the Walter Peck character
Speaker 4: asks him where are you a doctor of?
Speaker 2: He said, what kind of doctor are?
Speaker 4: Degree? In parapsychology and psychology? I said it in the
Speaker 4: reverse order.
Speaker 2: But oh well, that's awesome that you remember that. Okay,
Speaker 2: the quotes for five hundred let me see. Okay, Peter Rankman, Alice,
Speaker 2: I'm going to ask you a couple of standard questions. Okay,
Speaker 2: have you or any of your family ever been diagnosed
Speaker 2: schizophrenic or middlely incompetent? And she says, my uncle thought
Speaker 2: he was Saint Jerome, nice, perfect, And then he's like,
Speaker 2: I call that a yes.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I say that's a big yes. That's oh you
Speaker 4: said you said it right? Okay, this is fun. I
Speaker 4: like it because these are there's no quote too small
Speaker 4: or fact too small and ghostbusters right, except for Casey
Speaker 4: Casey's fucking wife, which I should.
Speaker 2: Have remember, all right, so you're eight hundred and I'm
Speaker 2: nine hundred, so we're going to.
Speaker 4: Tocond neck baby, whoa?
Speaker 2: All right, what's your category?
Speaker 4: Let's do the ghosts for four hundred, Ghosts.
Speaker 2: For four hundred. Okay, what was the ultimate form of
Speaker 2: the destructor the ultimate form? I guess the ultimate I guess.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to say it was the stay puffed
Speaker 4: marshmallow man.
Speaker 2: Because is that your final answer?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Because?
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go. Yeah, all right, four hundred points
Speaker 2: Team one. I need to catch up. Okay, let's see.
Speaker 2: I should do the technology for five. I don't know.
Speaker 2: That's risky, that's risky. Mmm, I'm gonna go for it.
Speaker 2: Oh easy. What happens when you cross the streams? Total
Speaker 2: protonic reversal? Am?
Speaker 4: I close? No matter what answer they give, because.
Speaker 2: Yeah, total some protonic nucleo reversal.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't you got you said more than that,
Speaker 4: so I'd.
Speaker 2: Say proton yea, I'm winning. Okay, what's your category?
Speaker 4: M hmm.
Speaker 2: Let's do the men for four hundred, the men for
Speaker 2: four hundred? Okay? What did Peter stop Egon from doing? That?
Speaker 2: He was sure would work if Egon hadn't been stopped.
Speaker 2: Oh this is easy.
Speaker 4: What is Julian a hole in his own head?
Speaker 2: Abs so fucking lutely utroll through his own head?
Speaker 4: Have you seen the movie Pie? No? You know who
Speaker 4: Darren Aronofsky is frequenf Oh I do know that movie? Yeah,
Speaker 4: he's in his movie. Before that was a sixteen millimeters
Speaker 4: black and white experimental cerebral journey called Pie Pi. No spoilers,
Speaker 4: but it has something to do with that. You should
Speaker 4: watch it. M hmm, pretty fascinating. I think you dig it.
Speaker 4: I was just listening to you and Davey talk about
Speaker 4: skin and Marank and if you like that, you'd probably
Speaker 4: definitely like Pie.
Speaker 2: I just like things that are unusual, I guess. So
Speaker 2: it's my turn, right, I'm gonna do quotes for four hundred.
Speaker 2: Janine Melnitz. Do you believe in UFO's actual projections, mental telepathy, esp.
Speaker 2: Clay voyant spirit, photography, telekinetic movement, full trance, medium, sloc ness, monster,
Speaker 2: in the theory of Atlantis? As long as there's a
Speaker 2: steady paycheck to involved, I'll believe anything you say.
Speaker 4: Boom, wow, that was a verbatim.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's go back to the old drawing board here.
Speaker 4: All right, I'm gonna go back to trade and truth.
Speaker 4: Let's do the men for three hundred.
Speaker 2: Okay, these four actors played the original Ghostbusters. Wow, this
Speaker 2: should be a one hundred point question.
Speaker 4: No shit, I'd hate to see what the one hundred
Speaker 4: point is. I'm gonna go with Ernie Hudson, Harold Rams,
Speaker 4: and Dan Ackroyd.
Speaker 2: You started with the least likely one that surprised me.
Speaker 4: Okay, Yes, I said it in the exact opposite of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought you were gonna say, like Bill Murray
Speaker 2: dan Ackroyd. Yes, a point for you.
Speaker 4: On the in the casting. In the bill credits it
Speaker 4: says Bill Murray's name first and then Dana, because I
Speaker 4: think Bill Murray was the bigger start at that point.
Speaker 2: I'm going with the technology for three hundred. What is
Speaker 2: the license plate of the Ghostbuster's car? Ecdo one?
Speaker 4: I didn't know?
Speaker 2: Yes, good job, yep mm hmm. All right, Colby eu Upe.
Speaker 2: You know what scares me the most out of all
Speaker 2: these the supporting cast for five hundreds.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 2: All right, you're a trooper. How did Peter describe Dana
Speaker 2: when he saw her after her symphony rehearsal.
Speaker 4: How the fun is that? Supporting cast?
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know did Peter described Dana when
Speaker 2: he saw her after her symphony.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to guess because I don't remember. You
Speaker 4: remember this.
Speaker 2: I remember how he described the guy she was with.
Speaker 4: It's something about being able to hear her, and she's.
Speaker 2: Like one of them, the best one in her row.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's maybe that's the answer.
Speaker 4: You get the points if that's the case, because I
Speaker 4: was just going to guess.
Speaker 2: Like elector the best one in her row.
Speaker 1: Jo.
Speaker 2: Thanks, I will gladly take the point.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, I'm getting kicked.
Speaker 2: It's all right. I'll let you have supporting cast for
Speaker 2: four hundred. I'm going with the ghosts for three hundred.
Speaker 2: When Lewis Totley was possessed, what it was his full
Speaker 2: name and title Vince or so Kate keeper.
Speaker 4: Key keep.
Speaker 2: Vince am I close Vince key master, key master. Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: key master. I'm giving myself that point because it was
Speaker 2: very close.
Speaker 4: No, you were on that.
Speaker 2: Okay, what is your category?
Speaker 4: I'm down a swift thousand here, I'm gonna go. Let's
Speaker 4: do supporting cast for four hundred.
Speaker 2: Are you sure?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay. What was the name of the EPA enforcement agent
Speaker 2: that came to inspect the Ghostbusters firehouse?
Speaker 4: Walter Peck.
Speaker 2: I don't even have to click it. Yes that is correct, Yes,
Speaker 2: it's true.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's true. This man has no dick you know.
Speaker 2: I love how he portrayed that character, by the way,
Speaker 2: because it's like the proverbial I'm being polite, but also
Speaker 2: fuck you kind of character. What do you do, mister venkman?
Speaker 4: You know what? He reminds me of what he is,
Speaker 4: the Yen to Bill Murray's yang. They're both fucking conceited
Speaker 4: assholes and.
Speaker 2: Their first pretentious.
Speaker 4: If let's pretend Egan would have ran into him, the
Speaker 4: entire movie would have gone down a different path, right.
Speaker 2: Because he would have been like more I don't know.
Speaker 2: It was like a standoff of egos when those two met.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. And that actor says to this day people
Speaker 4: call him dickless on the sidewalk and so uh or
Speaker 4: three years after this movie came out, he was in
Speaker 4: die Hard and he was like the TMZ esque report
Speaker 4: news reporter and his name, his name was Dick something.
Speaker 4: It was Yeah, I shit, you know, wow.
Speaker 2: So he just plays a dick in every movie.
Speaker 4: I guess he'd been typecasted after that encounter.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the quotes for two hundred Peter Rankman.
Speaker 2: Wait wait, I've always wanted to try this. I mean
Speaker 2: he pulled and the flowers are still standing.
Speaker 4: That's what they're looking for.
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, Colby, let's do of the men for two
Speaker 6: the men for two hundred.
Speaker 2: Okay, Egon collects these strange things. You have to know.
Speaker 4: This mucus, spores and fungus or.
Speaker 2: Something like that thing you you're right on old mold, Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: there you go, mold, sports and fungus.
Speaker 4: Mucus is Egon your your your mucus. Someone blows your
Speaker 4: nose and you want to keep.
Speaker 2: It all right? So the technology for two hundred. What
Speaker 2: kind of meter does Egon use in the library? Eke? Now, evp,
Speaker 2: what is the Do you know what this one is?
Speaker 2: Because you can have the points on it if you know.
Speaker 4: I don't know it at the top of my head.
Speaker 2: Because you know he has this little thing with.
Speaker 4: The little Is it the same thing he uses in
Speaker 4: the hotel when he like pokes that dude. Yes, that's
Speaker 4: one of my favorite egon scenes. The little thing that
Speaker 4: these characters do just tell subtle I mean, and I
Speaker 4: know that a lot of this ship was improvised, which
Speaker 4: I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: I love that. I don't think he goes up the
Speaker 2: guy and then he like, yep, it's true.
Speaker 4: I don't even think Rick Mariatta's did anything that wasn't
Speaker 4: improvised as far as like you know that scene where
Speaker 4: he's walking down and he's like explaining the price of
Speaker 4: the salmon, but he'd attacks right off. That was a
Speaker 4: really long shot. Really, he's the camera's panning down the
Speaker 4: table following him. He did that all improvised in one take.
Speaker 2: What a genius. I'm an actor, honestly he is.
Speaker 4: And I mean he's one of those underrated guys. I
Speaker 4: believe his wife died and he got out of the
Speaker 4: game to raise his kids.
Speaker 2: I know that's rip to his career because he was
Speaker 2: great and super funny. Right, I don't know what this is.
Speaker 2: I guess I'll just tak it L P K E.
Speaker 4: I know, but you said like KG or something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's like what I want to do is
Speaker 2: your heart, right.
Speaker 4: So let's I don't even know what that is.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I missed that one. What are you
Speaker 2: going with?
Speaker 4: Let's do ghosts for two?
Speaker 2: Okay, what's what was Ray's big plan to capture the
Speaker 2: ghost in the libraryer get her?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: All right, you get the points on that. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: go with the quotes for one hundred. Peter Wenkman, we came,
Speaker 2: we saw, we kicked its ass, right right.
Speaker 4: Okay, all caps kicked its ass.
Speaker 2: What's your category.
Speaker 4: Let's do supporting cast for two. Let's see what kind
Speaker 4: of interesting questions?
Speaker 2: How many feet above the covers since dayan asleep?
Speaker 4: I think it's four.
Speaker 2: You're saying, no, I'm not gonna say the answer, but
Speaker 2: that's not it.
Speaker 4: Okay, well that was you use your.
Speaker 2: Best conspiracy mind to think about what it might be. Okay,
Speaker 2: thank you. Oh oh my gosh, you're getting a point
Speaker 2: for sure. But that just goes to show you how
Speaker 2: bad my memory is.
Speaker 4: I just watched this and I thought, why didn't he
Speaker 4: say six?
Speaker 2: You know, six six feet above the covers? But now
Speaker 2: you I just.
Speaker 4: Could see blimmery four feet above the covers.
Speaker 2: All right, I'm going with the ghosts for one hundred.
Speaker 2: What did the first ghost that the Ghostbusters caught due
Speaker 2: to Peter, the first ghost that they caught. Oh, the
Speaker 2: slimer he's got slined right, yep, slined.
Speaker 4: It's funny how underwhelming that delivery is on Bill Murray's part,
Speaker 4: Even though this is an iconic line in the movie.
Speaker 2: I think I would have had the same reaction.
Speaker 4: I think that the feel funky.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the funniness of that scene comes from
Speaker 2: him just being totally underwhelmed. Yeah, honestly, I love.
Speaker 4: How in the beginning in the library, he's the most
Speaker 4: skeptical lot of the three of them, but when they
Speaker 4: see the ghost for the first time, he's the one
Speaker 4: who's not even fased by it. He's like, so, what
Speaker 4: do we do? Egon shows the most emotion in the
Speaker 4: entire movie in that scene when they see the ghost
Speaker 4: for the first.
Speaker 2: Time, Well, they like almost nothing for the rest of society.
Speaker 4: From in the Mayor's office where he goes your mother like,
Speaker 4: so had a character for him in such a diss
Speaker 4: your mother.
Speaker 2: I watched this interview of his daughter and she was like,
Speaker 2: I just want everyone to know that my dad was
Speaker 2: nothing like Egone. Yeah, he was actually really funny and superive.
Speaker 4: Are some of the best comedies of the last thirty years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for some reason, people see him as being like
Speaker 2: this real.
Speaker 4: It was this role that did it to them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly what's your category?
Speaker 4: Let's do men for one hundred?
Speaker 2: Okay, Peter is this doctor's first name?
Speaker 4: Are they just going for Rankman?
Speaker 2: Is that really what they're going for?
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm saying I don't know what else they could?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, is that even a question?
Speaker 7: Well?
Speaker 4: That was it was like, you know, what is it?
Speaker 4: Wants to be a millionaire? The first question? It's always
Speaker 4: the throwaway, right.
Speaker 2: Geez, I'm going with the technology for one hundred in
Speaker 2: the elevator at the hotel. What do the Ghostbusters have
Speaker 2: strapped to their back an unlicensed nuclear accelerator? Right?
Speaker 4: I was going to say proten pact, but that's what
Speaker 4: you call it in that scene.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, even if you get this one, I still win.
Speaker 4: You know. I like how you didn't get stuck on
Speaker 4: thirty three, got off of that number, now if I
Speaker 4: can get off three thousand supporting.
Speaker 2: Cast Lewis Tully's day job was this, Yes, so we
Speaker 2: were close three hundred point difference.
Speaker 4: That's you know what fucked me? Was it the Casey
Speaker 4: Casem's wife. Yeah, and that was the hardest question on
Speaker 4: the whole board. Isn't that weird?
Speaker 2: You went for throats though you were like supporting cast
Speaker 2: for five hundred.
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, ship, I think that one was
Speaker 4: the four hundred.
Speaker 2: No, let's see, Oh that was the five hundred. Damn No,
Speaker 2: that's because I've watched the three thousand times.
Speaker 4: What. Yeah, that's crazy. Questions should have been four or.
Speaker 2: Five, five for sure.
Speaker 4: Okay, what could you Julia if I was gonna lose?
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll have to do another one of horror movies
Speaker 2: or like Stanley Kubrick Jeopardy Stanley Kubrick.
Speaker 4: I'm not a huge horror guy, but I do love
Speaker 4: everything Kubrick and Ridley Scott.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll try to find one and then we can
Speaker 2: play that next time.
Speaker 4: We still need to do our little uh I know,
Speaker 4: round table with Davy and maybe another person even but
Speaker 4: at least us three doing Kubrick.
Speaker 2: We could definitely all three play Jeopardy two. So I'll
Speaker 2: look for one and we'll have to get that in
Speaker 2: the works. But tonight we are going all Ghostbusters. I'm
Speaker 2: talking Ghostbusters one and two. I have so many notes.
Speaker 2: I'm really excited to get into this, but if you're
Speaker 2: okay with it, I'm just gonna read off for the
Speaker 2: listeners a little bit of the stuff that everybody knows.
Speaker 2: Ghostbusters is a nineteen eighty four American supernatural comedy film
Speaker 2: directed and produced by Ivan Raitman and written by Dan
Speaker 2: Ackroyd and Harold Ramis. It stars Bill Murray, Dan Ackroyd,
Speaker 2: Harold Ramis and Let's See Sigourney Weaver, Rick Moranis and
Speaker 2: Annie Potts. And it's based on dan Ackroyd's own fascination
Speaker 2: with spirituality. Do you have any extra bits you want
Speaker 2: to add?
Speaker 4: Just as far as dan ackroid goes, I think it's
Speaker 4: intriguing that his great grand grandfather in the nineteen hundreds
Speaker 4: was a paranormal investigator.
Speaker 2: I believe dude, when I looked into it said he
Speaker 2: was a spiritualist, quote unquote, like that's how they describe
Speaker 2: Marina Abramovich is a spiritualist. That's literally the term.
Speaker 4: That they describe her as. An that's just me. She's
Speaker 4: a performance artist, right.
Speaker 2: I don't know what she was, but they called her
Speaker 2: a spiritualist.
Speaker 4: So that's crazy that they put those two in the
Speaker 4: same basket well.
Speaker 2: And the thing is is like dan Ackroyd had to
Speaker 2: rewrite everything because that was the thing. Yeah, it wasn't
Speaker 2: supposed to be a comedy at first, said.
Speaker 4: That before Epic. Yeah, like there was going to be
Speaker 4: dimension jumping. There was gonna be like the original State
Speaker 4: Puff was like one of many sequences of them fighting
Speaker 4: like huge monstrosities and shit. I mean he was ahead
Speaker 4: of his time. If he had like the budget of
Speaker 4: Disney and Marble, he could have made the thing that
Speaker 4: he wrote.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he could have.
Speaker 5: And so.
Speaker 2: He actually so when they told him it was never
Speaker 2: going to work as a sci fi film, and he
Speaker 2: was like, Okay, it's got to be a comedy. He
Speaker 2: actually was writing a role for John Belushi because of
Speaker 2: the Blues Brothers, and he wanted to do this with him,
Speaker 2: but he died. John Belushi died in nineteen eighty two,
Speaker 2: and the script had to be rewritten again. And I
Speaker 2: have something more interesting about Slimer.
Speaker 4: Was that a rewrite Slimer was an homage to John Belushi.
Speaker 4: They were trying to make like a John Belushi esque
Speaker 4: from Animal House type character. So that is, oh wow,
Speaker 4: that's the tip of the hat to John Belushi.
Speaker 2: Oh well, that's freaking awesome because like I researched this
Speaker 2: thing up and down and that I did not know.
Speaker 2: It also a really good.
Speaker 4: Find in the video game. Apparently there was a video
Speaker 4: game they did a like a digital version of John
Speaker 4: Belushi as his spiritual advisor. He's a ghost and he
Speaker 4: comes back and talks to dan akr And gives them advice,
Speaker 4: and shit.
Speaker 2: That's really cool. Yeah, I'm not gonna lie. That's really cool.
Speaker 2: So I have some weird stuff that I found about
Speaker 2: John Belushi's death that I'll get into in just a second.
Speaker 2: But so Ghostbusters was released on June eighth, and people
Speaker 2: were really skeptical that this was even gonna be a
Speaker 2: good movie, but it, you know, obviously became like a
Speaker 2: cultural phenomenon.
Speaker 4: What's crazy grossing comedy? Un Telhome alone came out.
Speaker 2: It was, but like, when you compare it to the
Speaker 2: other movies that came out that year, it's like, what
Speaker 2: a year to be alive? Like, dude, Ghostbusters dropped and
Speaker 2: then it was Grimlins, The Karate Kid, The Terminator, A
Speaker 2: Nightmare on Elm Street, the First One, and The Never
Speaker 2: Ending Story all came out this year and Ghostbusters like
Speaker 2: topped them all. But when you think cultural standards, like
Speaker 2: what's a cult class like, they're all cult classics and Terminator,
Speaker 2: Yeah that's crazy.
Speaker 4: They're all the original movies and franchises.
Speaker 2: Right right, Yes, So I mean, like, damn, I would
Speaker 2: have loved to be alive in nineteen eighty five, I.
Speaker 4: Was, but I was one years old, so I wasn't
Speaker 4: really watching movies yet.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be born for another ten years. But I
Speaker 2: love all those movies like The Never Ending Story come
Speaker 2: on Falcore. But so Ghostbusters, like I said, was inspired
Speaker 2: by dan Ackroyd's fascination with and a belief in the paranormal.
Speaker 2: And let's see he inherited which he inherited this interest
Speaker 2: from his father, who later wrote a book called A
Speaker 2: History of Ghosts. His mother claimed to have paranormal experiences,
Speaker 2: his gram father experimented with radios to contact the dead
Speaker 2: and was a renowned spiritualist. And then it says, in
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty one, dan Akroyd read an article on quantum
Speaker 2: physics and parapsychology, and it gave him the idea of
Speaker 2: actually trapping ghosts, and so the idea of Ghostbusters was
Speaker 2: born and he actually the original script after he decided
Speaker 2: it was going to be a comedy. It was going
Speaker 2: to star John Belushi and Eddie Murphy, like can you imagine?
Speaker 4: Well, you know, I feel like Ernie Hudson got the
Speaker 4: shaft in a lot of ways on this.
Speaker 1: He did.
Speaker 4: They really shrunk his part down after Eddie Murphy was
Speaker 4: tied up with shooting Beverly Hills.
Speaker 2: Cop, which is a great movie by at.
Speaker 4: A great movie, and he just it took too long
Speaker 4: for Akroyd to get this off the ground. But do
Speaker 4: you do you realize that when he finally was given
Speaker 4: the green light, they were giving him the release date
Speaker 4: from the day he got it the stamp of approval
Speaker 4: of fourteen months to theater. So this was shot and
Speaker 4: edited in fourteen months. Especially the really cool like they
Speaker 4: some of the coolest shit, like I hate CGI, I
Speaker 4: don't watch sh it like that, like the newer stuff.
Speaker 4: But like the opening scene with the cards, they just
Speaker 4: pushed the drawers out and they had a vacuum and
Speaker 4: they were blowing those cards up like real low bud shit.
Speaker 4: And they have like the ghosts which is green screen technology,
Speaker 4: and then they have the stop start with the dogs
Speaker 4: you know, the Gatekeeper Key Master.
Speaker 2: The worst graphics in that movie are the dogs. Everything
Speaker 2: else looks pretty pretty dope.
Speaker 4: Apparently, if you get the four K updated high def shit,
Speaker 4: the dogs look pretty cool. But I kind of like
Speaker 4: the nostalgic, like shitty stops. The animation for nineteen eighty four,
Speaker 4: it looked pretty fucking good.
Speaker 2: It looked, Okay, they're the worst thing.
Speaker 4: You're right, they are the worst things in the movie.
Speaker 4: Everything else that fucking creepyss taxi driver.
Speaker 2: Dude Colby. They look like dog turds. It looks so bad.
Speaker 4: My friend had a boxer pit mix that looked just
Speaker 4: like those fucking things without their head.
Speaker 2: They were nuralists. They literally looked like walking piles of shit.
Speaker 4: I mean they were but.
Speaker 2: Uh but no, Okay, So I want to I want
Speaker 2: to give the listeners a little background on the death
Speaker 2: of John Belushi because and I hope this is even
Speaker 2: impressive to you, because I did a kind of a
Speaker 2: deep dive on that. And so, John Belushi had an
Speaker 2: accidental quote unquote death in March of nineteen eighty two,
Speaker 2: and it says that he died from a combination of
Speaker 2: bad drugs by a drug dealer named Kathy Smith, and
Speaker 2: it says that he was injected with a mixture of
Speaker 2: heroin cocaine and it was like a deadly amount. And
Speaker 2: it was at the Chateau Marmont's hotel in West Hollywood, California.
Speaker 2: So I know you've heard me talk about the Chateau
Speaker 2: Marmont before, and this is the hotel that was the
Speaker 2: inspiration for Hotel California. But it's also been referred to
Speaker 2: in songs by like Miley Cyrus, Panic at the Disco,
Speaker 2: The Grateful Dead, Lanna Delay, they all talk about the
Speaker 2: Chateau Marmont and Tuesday Weld, Anton Levey, they all talked
Speaker 2: about the Chateau Marmont, and I think that it's interesting
Speaker 2: that he would have died there. Now do you think
Speaker 2: that he was murdered?
Speaker 4: Uh, there's some stuff around his death that I recently
Speaker 4: heard that really tripped me the fuck out, But I
Speaker 4: don't know what the reason for murdering him. Of course,
Speaker 4: he did die at thirty three, which, like Chris Farley
Speaker 4: and John how Old, was John Candy when he died?
Speaker 2: I can google it?
Speaker 4: Really cool, But do you know the connection between all
Speaker 4: those three that I just named and Phil Hartman and
Speaker 4: a few other dead comedians. What they looked at this
Speaker 4: script and it was about a Canadian. It was a
Speaker 4: Canadian thing, and it was about Eskimo. It was a
Speaker 4: comedy and anybody who like read this role ended up dying.
Speaker 4: Ye're shitting So I heard this last week. It was
Speaker 4: this guy named Thomas or Thomas and he's a stand
Speaker 4: up comedian that Davey Wavey used to work with, and
Speaker 4: this was the second time he had him on. And
Speaker 4: this guy is pretty like straight and narrow when it
Speaker 4: comes to conspiracies. But he brought this to Davey's attention.
Speaker 4: Davey hadn't heard of it. I haven't heard of it.
Speaker 4: Apparently you haven't. I'll get the title of the movie
Speaker 4: and send it to you. You're gonna do a whole
Speaker 4: episode on it.
Speaker 2: I can already tell oh, shut the front door. This
Speaker 2: is that real.
Speaker 4: Google what movie did and list some of those actors
Speaker 4: I just named. What script did they cursed script that
Speaker 4: Blushy Candy, Barley Hartman? What script did they look at?
Speaker 2: Okay, let's see if it comes up.
Speaker 4: Because Davy was able to bring it up when they
Speaker 4: were talking about it. Uh a Tuk Yep, that's it.
Speaker 2: That's the name. Hollywood script that killed six actors. It's
Speaker 2: right here. Oh wait a second, wait a second.
Speaker 5: Five.
Speaker 2: It says a Hollywood script that has killed six actors,
Speaker 2: and the story is about an Inuit poem something something Toronto.
Speaker 2: But the movie he lives in Alaska. Jesus Christ. A
Speaker 2: woman visits his town in Alaska. John Belue. She two
Speaker 2: months later, Catherine Evelyn Smith. Oh, that's the that's who
Speaker 2: killed him. The script went back to the market. Sam Kennison, Oh,
Speaker 2: he read for it too. Yep, dead, John Candy dead,
Speaker 2: Chris Farley dead. I must have missed someone.
Speaker 4: Did anybody look at it? Did you say fill her?
Speaker 2: Phil Hartman day?
Speaker 4: Did you Does it say anything about anybody reading it
Speaker 4: that didn't die? Or is it just everybody who fucking
Speaker 4: and they probably can do this thing? After six people
Speaker 4: were killed by it, I.
Speaker 2: Would say you got to close the movie down. I mean,
Speaker 2: so three a m. Someone entered the bedroom of Phil
Speaker 2: Hartman and shot him twice in the head. That so
Speaker 2: we have a three there. And then Chris Farley was
Speaker 2: thirty three, John Candy was on his he was forty three.
Speaker 4: Ooh three.
Speaker 2: And then this guy, Sam Kinnison, you know who.
Speaker 4: He is, stand up comedian. He had like long curly
Speaker 4: hair and he always wore a beret. He was a
Speaker 4: big dude, and he'd always be like I after his jokes.
Speaker 4: He had the scream. He was a preacher. He was
Speaker 4: came from a religious background and he was going to
Speaker 4: be a preacher, but he became this coked up stand up.
Speaker 4: You'd like him. You should check him out, Sam Kinison.
Speaker 2: That's I'll have to look into it. Just as in
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty eight managed eight days of filming before they
Speaker 2: halted the production. So eight the right John Belushi was
Speaker 2: thirty three. Wow, what a rabbit hole. Let me not
Speaker 2: just tie right off into that for too long. But
Speaker 2: so the whole hotel, the Chateau Marmont thing, I think
Speaker 2: is also a connection with that because it's like a
Speaker 2: cursed place. And actually there was something yeah right here.
Speaker 2: So I found an interview of Dan Aykroyd and it
Speaker 2: was someone talking to him and asking him if he
Speaker 2: ever had any like real life paranormal experiences, and he
Speaker 2: said so. The interviewer says, as an actor and musician,
Speaker 2: you've traveled the world and stayed in many hotels. What
Speaker 2: have what have been your own paranormal hotel experiences? And
Speaker 2: he said, I have not had many hotel experiences. The
Speaker 2: Chateau Marma has a lot of stuff going on, though,
Speaker 2: and I've stayed there a lot. Things have come off
Speaker 2: the wall and I had an out of body experience
Speaker 2: there once and I was flying around the dining room
Speaker 2: and it says, I guess so, and then it says
Speaker 2: the lamp broke after my friend said he saw the
Speaker 2: lamp above him start to shake, and he says that
Speaker 2: was just before John Blue. She died two weeks later.
Speaker 4: Okay, I was going to ask if this interview was
Speaker 4: post Belucy death. Apparently it is.
Speaker 2: Right, and it says, actually I had a friend who
Speaker 2: was a sensitive and went to the place where John
Speaker 2: died and he said he saw him. John appeared to
Speaker 2: him at the Chateau Marmont.
Speaker 4: He was a green slammer.
Speaker 2: So interesting, right, Yeah, especially with this curse script which
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna have to look into that.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Minding yet, mind blowing. I wonder if they finished making
Speaker 2: the movie.
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna look the movie. The movie is sitting
Speaker 4: it's still available, but no one wants to touch it.
Speaker 2: Apparently, I'm not. I'm not watching it.
Speaker 4: It's like playing Superman. So, yeah, they will never film
Speaker 4: this movie. I don't think there's unless there's like some
Speaker 4: actor who's suicidal and he's like, let's just try to
Speaker 4: make this movie.
Speaker 2: Before I write, why don't they pick like Jared Leto
Speaker 2: or somebody nobody cares about.
Speaker 4: Do some weight, Jared, You're gonna be a fat esque
Speaker 4: him out right, let me get off my cross, okay?
Speaker 7: Man?
Speaker 2: Or like, who's the actor who was in He's just
Speaker 2: not that into you and the tusk justin long.
Speaker 4: You don't like him, Yeah.
Speaker 2: He can be in that movie. I fucking hate him
Speaker 2: as an actor, and his face annoys every cell in
Speaker 2: my body.
Speaker 4: He did do a really good George Harrison and Dewey Cox.
Speaker 2: I don't give a shit. So I want to break
Speaker 2: down the storyline here. Are you ready?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: All right? So we got the library opening iconic as ever,
Speaker 2: just like you said before, it's kind of low budget
Speaker 2: effects but absolutely iconic. The cards are flying out of
Speaker 2: the little things and we have our first sighting of
Speaker 2: the old Lady librarian ghost and the next scene that
Speaker 2: it cuts to after that is one of my favorite
Speaker 2: scenes in the entire movie. I don't know why, but
Speaker 2: when Peter Vankman is giving electro shock.
Speaker 4: Well think it's a misunderstood scene too, do you, Yeah,
Speaker 4: because everybody I've ever heard talk about it says this
Speaker 4: is the scene where you can really tell that Peter
Speaker 4: is not really into the studies, that he's just a
Speaker 4: sleez bag and he's just interested in hooking up with.
Speaker 5: The s girl.
Speaker 4: But no, he he is doing negative reinforcement of ESP.
Speaker 4: So he's proving that if somebody's angry that they'll start
Speaker 4: being ESP and pychic. Yeah, and so he's like letting
Speaker 4: the girl get all the right answers, even though she
Speaker 4: gets none of them right. And as it goes on,
Speaker 4: he starts getting the cards right.
Speaker 2: He does because he's like a couple wavy lines.
Speaker 4: Yes, and he's just like, this is just not your day.
Speaker 2: He like reaches towards as the button and he's like no, no,
Speaker 2: He SAPs the shit out of him. In the Little Gumflock.
Speaker 4: This has really started to piss me off.
Speaker 2: Keep the five bucks.
Speaker 4: But to say what I was gonna say, he definitely
Speaker 4: does not miss the opportunity to slide in and tried
Speaker 4: to hit on the girl, but he was doing his
Speaker 4: serious studied. I thought and that I was actress Elizabeth
Speaker 4: Sho No, it was somebody that didn't do a lot.
Speaker 4: But I just heard this in something I was listening
Speaker 4: to yesterday. But I've gotten my notes that how much
Speaker 4: I love the card esp studies, and I have in
Speaker 4: parentheses in k Ultra like what kind of shit are
Speaker 4: they doing at this school? Because do you remember when
Speaker 4: they lose their funding? Acroid's pissed or not pissed, but
Speaker 4: he's distraught and he's like Stanford, mi t forget about it.
Speaker 4: They want to touch us with a ten foot pole now,
Speaker 4: And he's like, I love that seat also because he's
Speaker 4: telling and I'm like, you've never been out of the
Speaker 4: university field like private sector. They expect results, they expect results. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that was almost an homage to trading places with him,
Speaker 4: because there's a line about that in there too.
Speaker 2: So if I was going to rate scenes, by the way,
Speaker 2: and I don't know why, but the scene where he's
Speaker 2: electro shocking that guy is like probably one of my
Speaker 2: top three favorite scenes in the entire movie.
Speaker 4: Nervous Yes, I don't like this.
Speaker 8: You only have seventy five more to go?
Speaker 10: Okay, what's this one?
Speaker 4: A couple of wavy lines? Sorry, this isn't your lucky day. Well, yeah,
Speaker 4: get a little tired of this.
Speaker 10: You volunteered, didn't you.
Speaker 2: We're paying you, aren't we?
Speaker 4: Yeah? But I don't know you're going to give the
Speaker 4: electric shocks? What are you trying to approve her? Anyway?
Speaker 10: I'm studying the effect of negative reinforcement on esp ability.
Speaker 4: The effect, I'll tell you what the effect is.
Speaker 13: It's putting me off.
Speaker 4: Well, then maybe my very is correct. Okay, kick the
Speaker 4: five blucks, I will, mister.
Speaker 2: And it's like the character Bill Murray is portraying is
Speaker 2: such a pretentious asshole, but he's like so smart and
Speaker 2: funny that you almost don't care if he's as into
Speaker 2: it as Egon and Ray. So you have that aspect
Speaker 2: in all three of the characters. Egon is like the brain,
Speaker 2: and Ray is like the really excited one that just
Speaker 2: believes in everything, and then you have Venkman who's skeptical
Speaker 2: of everything.
Speaker 4: I'd say that Ray and Peter are actually very much
Speaker 4: like the actors portraying them, where Harold ramis like you
Speaker 4: established earlier is pretty much the polar opposite. But I
Speaker 4: do feel like Bill Murray this was the role for
Speaker 4: him because I think they'd already done stripes. But if
Speaker 4: you look at everything that Bill Murray's done since he
Speaker 4: is Peter Vankman, and I think that that is Bill Murray.
Speaker 4: I think Bill Murray did a lot of improvisation with
Speaker 4: this role.
Speaker 2: And you know what I would what I would compare
Speaker 2: it to is, if you've seen one Vince Vaughn movie,
Speaker 2: You've seen all Vince Vaughn movies. Bill Murray is that guy.
Speaker 2: He's He's Peter Vankman in almost every role he plays,
Speaker 2: except for what about Bob?
Speaker 4: What about Bob's different? Yeah, groundhog Days Peter Vankman, right,
Speaker 4: except that there's a courage. There's a character arc with
Speaker 4: Groundhog Day. I love that. Fucking Ghostbusters breaks that rule.
Speaker 4: There is not a character arc for a single fucking
Speaker 4: person in this movie.
Speaker 2: Oh, not even carrying on into the second.
Speaker 4: Movie, even at the end when Rick moranis is like,
Speaker 4: you know, just getting left of the dust, It's just
Speaker 4: like right, It wasn't until Ghostbusters two where he has
Speaker 4: his day.
Speaker 2: Which I just love him as an actor. I used
Speaker 2: to be really obsessed with Honey. I blew up the kid,
Speaker 2: not shrunk, but blew up. It was my favorite one.
Speaker 2: So after they get kicked out of the university, they
Speaker 2: find the firehouse and one of my most favorite quotes
Speaker 2: from the movie comes from Spangler.
Speaker 8: It just seems a little pricey for a unique fixer
Speaker 8: upper opportunity.
Speaker 10: That's all, what do you think?
Speaker 7: He I think this building should be condemned. There's serious
Speaker 7: metal fatigue and all the load bearing members. The wiring
Speaker 7: is substandard. It's completely inadequate for our power needs. And
Speaker 7: the neighborhood is like at the militarized zone.
Speaker 2: Hey, does this pole still work?
Speaker 4: Wow?
Speaker 10: This place is great.
Speaker 2: When can we move in?
Speaker 9: You gotta try this pole.
Speaker 11: I'm gonna get my stuff.
Speaker 2: That is, And then he goes, I think we'll take it.
Speaker 4: Well, no, because right after he says all that, Ray
Speaker 4: comes running. He's like, this pole still work? Guys, And
Speaker 4: then like Bill, Murray and him look at each other
Speaker 4: because he's all excited about it, like, let's sleep here tonight,
Speaker 4: let's try it out. He's like a little seenager.
Speaker 2: Right, He's like nineteen percent. You didn't even bargain with
Speaker 2: the guy totally took out a second mortgage on his
Speaker 2: house and like, so they're going full fledge into it.
Speaker 2: But right after that we see the first scene with
Speaker 2: Sigourney Weaver and Louis Tully, and that's another iconic scene.
Speaker 2: I mean, when he runs out of his apartment, he's like,
Speaker 2: you know, I always keep like a lot of nutritious
Speaker 2: snacks in the house, little sodium mineral water or like
Speaker 2: wherever the little thing is. He says, well, oh, yes,
Speaker 2: I thought it was a drug store. Oh are you sick?
Speaker 4: Oh no, no, I'm fine.
Speaker 13: I feel great.
Speaker 10: Just order some more vitamins and stuff.
Speaker 4: I was just exercising.
Speaker 8: I taped don't even work out of my machine and
Speaker 8: played it back at high speed, so it only took
Speaker 8: ten minutes.
Speaker 4: I got a great workout.
Speaker 2: Good.
Speaker 4: Do you want to commit for mineral waters?
Speaker 9: Oh?
Speaker 1: I'd really like to, Lewis, but I have to go
Speaker 1: to rehearsal. Now, excuse me, no, sweat, I'll.
Speaker 4: Take a rate check on that.
Speaker 10: I always have plenty in low sodium mineral water and
Speaker 10: other nutritious foods in the house.
Speaker 8: But you already know that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know that.
Speaker 2: But did you catch the easter egg when the grocery
Speaker 2: start exploding on the countertop.
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's the little foreshadowing of the state puffed marshmallow
Speaker 4: man there.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. And then like Dana meets the Ghostbusters and
Speaker 2: in that scene, there's like a mention of He's like,
Speaker 2: oh well, Venkan's like, I'll go back to her apartment.
Speaker 2: I'll check her out. I mean, I'll track her apartment out.
Speaker 2: And Egan says, well, we'll check all the normal literature,
Speaker 2: you know, the Tobin Spirit Guide And I googled it
Speaker 2: and that's not it's not a real thing. I wanted
Speaker 2: it to be a real thing. It's not.
Speaker 4: What about like zuel and Goeser in the Sumerian in things,
Speaker 4: Is this a real thing? Because I was going to
Speaker 4: also look into that and I never did. Are those real?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's real, it's real. So the only thing that
Speaker 2: wasn't real in that aspect was like this Tobin Spirit
Speaker 2: Gide or whatever, it doesn't exist.
Speaker 4: I really am curious about that Philadelphia mass turbulence of
Speaker 4: nineteen forty seven when he's talking about the books being stuffed.
Speaker 4: I wonder if that's real.
Speaker 2: You should look it up, because when I hear Philadelphia,
Speaker 2: I think of like the Philadelphia the Experiment experiment, right,
Speaker 2: it was that, do you know it was in the twenties. Okay,
Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Experiment was in the twenties, if I'm if
Speaker 2: it wasn't in the twenties, it was like in the forties,
Speaker 2: because like it was super old.
Speaker 4: I do want to say at the beginning of this movie,
Speaker 4: it presents itself as is either a horror movie or
Speaker 4: a drama. It doesn't open up like a comedy. And
Speaker 4: I think the music is really key in this movie.
Speaker 4: It's like this sound like Dina the eighties horror Like
Speaker 4: it's really good. It reminds me of like Rosemary's Baby
Speaker 4: and shit like that.
Speaker 2: Like even in the second one, the song it's different guys, right,
Speaker 2: it's different guys. But the soundtrack of the first Ghostbusters,
Speaker 2: who Are You Gonna Call? Like that that's iconic forever.
Speaker 4: But I always thought that was over in the news too,
Speaker 4: and it's not. It's Rey Perker Junior.
Speaker 2: You're right. There's another song though, when it's the dream
Speaker 2: sequence and Ray's having a dream, there's like a ghost
Speaker 2: taking his pants off or something, and.
Speaker 4: That's based on something real. What Yeah? That so Dan Ackroyd.
Speaker 4: It implies he's gonna get a blowjob from a ghost,
Speaker 4: but that's like a dream, right. But he went on
Speaker 4: your Rogan's podcast like fucking five or six years ago,
Speaker 4: and I fucking love dan akright. I love everything he's done.
Speaker 4: I love all every care he's ever played, even like
Speaker 4: the stupider roles. But he told Joe Rogan that when
Speaker 4: he and his family bought a house in northern California
Speaker 4: that he was it was one of the first nights
Speaker 4: he was sleeping there. That part, I'm not exactly clear,
Speaker 4: and I'm pretty sure it was pretty fresh how the
Speaker 4: house purchased, and he said that he felt a presence
Speaker 4: start to spoon him and that he was fucking petrified
Speaker 4: and paralyzed. And Joe's like, wow, man, was it was
Speaker 4: it like a like a masculine or a feminine presence?
Speaker 4: And dan Achray, without even breaking his breaking his expression,
Speaker 4: just goes, well, it felt like it could have been masculine.
Speaker 4: So and then Rogan's asking him, well, is that what
Speaker 4: that scene in Ghostbusters came from? He's like, yeah, that's
Speaker 4: what inspired that.
Speaker 2: WHOA damn, that's fucking crazy. So he really does have
Speaker 2: like he could do a paranormal podcast, Like he's totally
Speaker 2: into it.
Speaker 4: I appre sure he was talking about it at one point.
Speaker 4: I don't know if he ever did, but he has
Speaker 4: that Crystal Skull vodka. He's really into UFOs too, and
Speaker 4: big Front Like he's known for believing everything paranormal. Like
Speaker 4: there's not anything he's really skeptical about as far as that.
Speaker 2: So I guess I don't think he's crazy. But I mean,
Speaker 2: like in the second movie, he owns a bookstore, right
Speaker 2: raise a cult, So I guess like it really is him,
Speaker 2: Like he's almost playing himself in the movie.
Speaker 4: He's played probably what he would have tried to do
Speaker 4: if he didn't become a comedian slash actor.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's kind of cool. M So Dana meets the Ghostbusters.
Speaker 2: They go back to her hotel or they go back
Speaker 2: to her apartment. Then they get their first call, Hello Ghostbusters.
Speaker 2: Yes of course this series.
Speaker 1: You do?
Speaker 2: You have no kidding?
Speaker 13: Uh huh, Well just just give me the address, yes
Speaker 13: of course. Oh they'll be totally discreet. Thank you, we
Speaker 13: got one.
Speaker 2: We got one, And they meet the Slimer and the
Speaker 2: Accelerator packs on their back Da Da da Flowers are
Speaker 2: still standing.
Speaker 4: I love when they're in the elevator and he has
Speaker 4: Egon flips right on and then he this is just
Speaker 4: another one of those great things Harold Raims does. He
Speaker 4: kind of just scoots back really.
Speaker 2: Cautiously, and they're kind of like nudging closer.
Speaker 4: They have not tested this ship out at all. That's
Speaker 4: implied heavily. This is the test.
Speaker 2: What the hell are you doing?
Speaker 10: Sorry, sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 8: We thought you were someone else.
Speaker 2: The when they're breaking down the prices too, you can
Speaker 2: see Egon just like yep, yep, I'm gonna ask you for.
Speaker 4: That, and then the thousand dollars containing fee too. So
Speaker 4: we could just put it right back in there, can't we, right,
Speaker 4: We most certainly can. Yeah, they haven't thought any of
Speaker 4: this through.
Speaker 2: No, But if if you think about it, the whole
Speaker 2: them making money on this being Ghostbusters or whatever, I
Speaker 2: can see how the story progressed into the second movie
Speaker 2: because they were so successful and there was such a
Speaker 2: surge because of this Goeser thing, and then like what
Speaker 2: happens after that after they've just.
Speaker 4: They put him on the side.
Speaker 2: You would imagine that it went like way down hill
Speaker 2: after that, and then that kind of enters us into
Speaker 2: the second movie because like nobody even cares about the Ghostbusters.
Speaker 4: Anymore, but like it's five year gap.
Speaker 2: Correct, five years, Yes.
Speaker 4: I could still I have that opening scene memorized five
Speaker 4: years later, and then the crack and the sidewalk and
Speaker 4: the baby carriage and the pink slime, and that's itched
Speaker 4: into my memory because as a kid, like I said,
Speaker 4: I was one when the first one came out, but
Speaker 4: then my brother and I started watching the Saturday Morning
Speaker 4: Cartoon and my Mom's like, you know, that's a movie,
Speaker 4: so she rented it for us. So by the time
Speaker 4: this second one came out, we were like waiting for it,
Speaker 4: and we liked it more as kids, we thought it
Speaker 4: was better, even though it's clearly not better. It was. Oh.
Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you if you still stand by that,
Speaker 2: If you think the second one, do you think it's
Speaker 2: just as good or do you think it's worse.
Speaker 4: I think it's just as good. But I think the
Speaker 4: third first third of the movie, so Act one is
Speaker 4: original as fuck, and then the second two acts are
Speaker 4: just the first movie made with different different characters, but
Speaker 4: the scenario is the exact same.
Speaker 2: I agree with you. I think the first half of
Speaker 2: the movie is really good, and then it kind of
Speaker 2: was like, ah, we all knew this was gonna happen, right,
Speaker 2: But before we jump.
Speaker 4: In, let's finish the first before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, before we jump into that one, I have to say.
Speaker 2: We meet Winston in the iconic like do you believe in?
Speaker 2: Then we meet Walter Peck and then they go to
Speaker 2: prison or jail and Danea gets possessed, and there's this
Speaker 2: song that plays after they release all the ghosts back
Speaker 2: they shut the containment facility down, there's this song and yes,
Speaker 2: do you believe in? Magic? Magic?
Speaker 4: That the fuck out that whole entire scene.
Speaker 2: That's I think where dan Ackroyd got to have a
Speaker 2: little bit of creative freedom because that's the creepiest scene
Speaker 2: in the entire movie, when all the ghosts are getting
Speaker 2: let loose on the city and it's like magic magic.
Speaker 2: That song was perfection.
Speaker 4: Do you know what?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna google it because I just put it in
Speaker 2: my notes, like I love that song, but it's perfect
Speaker 2: see Ghostbusters magic song? All right? So the song is
Speaker 2: Magic by make Smiley. Never fucking heard of that guy.
Speaker 4: It's a creepy name. Hey, it's mixing siy, kids.
Speaker 2: It's not Do you believe in magic? It says, I
Speaker 2: believe it's magic. Magic. Yeah, I believe it's magic.
Speaker 4: I wonder like that song was already a thing then
Speaker 4: it wasn't written for the movie.
Speaker 2: I guess while they're in jail they talk about some
Speaker 2: moldy Babylonian god is gonna come back and death. It's
Speaker 2: very thank you.
Speaker 4: I love that. I love it. It's like it's such
Speaker 4: a dickish thing to do in that moment, but he's
Speaker 4: so matter of fact that he can't let it slide.
Speaker 2: Right. I looked into the story. It's all made up.
Speaker 2: I really wish that it would have been true.
Speaker 4: But there was the architect.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the architect, Yeah he's got.
Speaker 4: He's got a cult of like a thousand followers, and.
Speaker 2: They yea, the he built that building.
Speaker 4: To that for the first twenty floors of that building
Speaker 4: are real. And then they did like a matte special
Speaker 4: effects matte painting for the top part. I thought it
Speaker 4: looked great.
Speaker 2: I thought it looked great, it looked terrific. But I just,
Speaker 2: you know, I was like, d the story wasn't real.
Speaker 4: So do you think it's weird that they had the
Speaker 4: plans with them in print in jail.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they wouldn't have been able to get in there.
Speaker 4: That's so I have another plot hole from the beginning
Speaker 4: where they get canned from the university. They just filmed
Speaker 4: an encounter with a ghost. Why doesn't he just show
Speaker 4: him that and say, hey, look we're making headway. Look
Speaker 4: at this, we just filmed a fucking ghost.
Speaker 2: That's interesting.
Speaker 4: But did they film it? He has the camera. I
Speaker 4: don't know if it actually shows him filming it. I
Speaker 4: think he's yeah, because.
Speaker 2: He's like taking a million pictures of it, remember, and
Speaker 2: he's like clicking the camera over and over again.
Speaker 4: But he's got there in the special filter. It just
Speaker 4: showed up in the mill that day before they went,
Speaker 4: so he was able to film it. But I don't
Speaker 4: know if he did. I know he was snapping pictures
Speaker 4: of stuff. But anyway, I just thought they just like
Speaker 4: had their first encounter and they didn't even like try
Speaker 4: to save their jobs by telling the guy that yeah, that.
Speaker 2: Well, they had to get kicked out for the rest
Speaker 2: of the movie to make this. But the thing is
Speaker 2: the short amount of time they had to pull this off.
Speaker 2: You have to ignore the potholes.
Speaker 4: I can't I forgive Ghostbusters for having two or three,
Speaker 4: but they're not that big. So what they had plans
Speaker 4: in jail? You know, maybe he snuck them in somehow.
Speaker 2: And just yeah, they were able to have this whole
Speaker 2: blueprint in jail.
Speaker 4: And is everyone getting this? I love that Billberry says
Speaker 4: that because everybody's gotta like watching.
Speaker 2: What was that thing he said? He said, Uh, you
Speaker 2: better know better.
Speaker 4: Someone, you better be good. For goodness sake, someone's coming.
Speaker 4: Someone's coming, almost like he's going to break into It's
Speaker 4: Christmas song.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 13: Uh.
Speaker 2: They go meet the mayor after that, and there's the
Speaker 2: iconic dickless scene.
Speaker 12: So Ghostbusters, Hey, mister mayor, the ghost but it's okay
Speaker 12: the ghost.
Speaker 9: But hey, where's this Peck? Alright, I'm Walter Peck, sir,
Speaker 9: and I'm prepared to make a full report. These men
Speaker 9: are consummate snowball artists that you sense the nerve gases
Speaker 9: to induce hallucinations. People think they're seeing ghosts, and they
Speaker 9: call these bozos who conveniently show up to deal with
Speaker 9: the problem with the fake electronic light show.
Speaker 11: Everything was fine with our system until the power grid
Speaker 11: was shut off by dicklas.
Speaker 9: Here they caused an explosion.
Speaker 13: Is this true?
Speaker 9: Yes, it's true.
Speaker 8: This man has no dick.
Speaker 10: Jesus, all right, all right, all right, Well that's what
Speaker 10: I heard a city hall.
Speaker 9: And what am I gonna do here?
Speaker 13: John?
Speaker 2: What is this?
Speaker 4: Well, I'm not gonna call a press conference and tell
Speaker 4: everyone to start praying.
Speaker 12: Oh I'm Winston's atamore Yanna. But I've only been with
Speaker 12: the company for a couple of weeks. I gotta tell
Speaker 12: you these things are real. Since I joined these men,
Speaker 12: I have seen ship that will turn you white.
Speaker 10: Well, you could believe, mister Pecker, my name is Peck,
Speaker 10: or you could accept the fact that this city is
Speaker 10: headed for a disaster of biblical proportion.
Speaker 5: What do you mean biblical?
Speaker 11: What he means this Old Testament, mister mayor real wrath
Speaker 11: of God type stuff, Fire and brimstone coming down from
Speaker 11: the sky, rivers and seas boiling.
Speaker 7: Forty years of darkness, earthquakes, volcanoes, bed rising.
Speaker 8: From the green, human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together,
Speaker 8: Massis at.
Speaker 2: The point and cats and dogs.
Speaker 4: Mass hysteria is Do you think that that dickless scene
Speaker 4: was improvised or do you think that was written? Because
Speaker 4: it's so perfect.
Speaker 2: It is too good not to be written.
Speaker 4: Has shut off our power grid.
Speaker 2: It's true, this man has no dick.
Speaker 4: I also think it's interesting that the priest dude comes
Speaker 4: in and he has some kind of dominion over the mayor.
Speaker 2: Mmm, and he gives him a kiss and he's like
Speaker 2: hello Lenny or whatever he says, yeah, And.
Speaker 4: Then there's rabbis jumping up and down when they're outside
Speaker 4: the building. A little later, all the religions are backing.
Speaker 2: Them, and you can tell how each character kind of
Speaker 2: is portrayed in the entire movie by their reaction to
Speaker 2: the crowd scene, because Egan and Ray are totally like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, like what is going on? But Peter's
Speaker 2: like shaking hand, save the carpet. Yeah, He's like, what
Speaker 2: do you want me to do? Kiss your baby? Like
Speaker 2: it's like the whole you know, egotistical thing. They end
Speaker 2: up saving the day, right, they go to the apartment.
Speaker 2: There's this whole standoff, it's whatever, they save the day.
Speaker 2: But what's interesting to me, what I wrote down notes
Speaker 2: for is that once the Ghostbusters vanquished, goes Er the
Speaker 2: Gozarian right, and they're all covered in the marshmallow.
Speaker 4: Ooze, which is just shaving cream.
Speaker 2: I think it looks so real to me, though it does.
Speaker 4: It looks like Peter Who's dick to Bill Murray, suck
Speaker 4: could be like I just want a little bit on my.
Speaker 2: Cheeks, the other little little on my head, that's all.
Speaker 2: Don't get it on my face. Don't get it on
Speaker 2: my face.
Speaker 4: Like it's a good representation of his character, though he
Speaker 4: can step in and come away clean every time, like
Speaker 4: teflon Don.
Speaker 2: But there's a scene after that where dan Aykroyd tells
Speaker 2: Tully after they break him out of the dog thing.
Speaker 2: He goes, you were an unwilling participant in the biggest
Speaker 2: inter dimensional cross rips since the Tunguska Blast of nineteen
Speaker 2: oh nine. And it turns out there was a huge
Speaker 2: explosion in Central Russia in nineteen oh eight, what they
Speaker 2: call the result of a meteorite impact, and according to Wikipedia, okay,
Speaker 2: it flattened eighty million trees and caused a shock wave
Speaker 2: that registered on the Richter scale. And so my question
Speaker 2: to you is, do you think the og Tunguska blast
Speaker 2: really was an intern dimensional cross writ.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm gonna have decide with dan akright on this,
Speaker 4: because I also he would have looked into it extensively
Speaker 4: if he was going to make a reference to it,
Speaker 4: I'll put that.
Speaker 2: In the script. That's big.
Speaker 4: But here's the thing that I pulled up from earlier. Sadly,
Speaker 4: the Philadelphia mass turbulence of nineteen forty seven is not
Speaker 4: a thing that has happened, and it's this article about
Speaker 4: the Ghostbuster scene. So he just made that shit up possible.
Speaker 2: That fucking sucks.
Speaker 4: I like that, though, I totally forgot about that one.
Speaker 4: I was kind of falling asleep near the end of
Speaker 4: the movie. Oh I love I love the uh, the
Speaker 4: whole scene with that. I think she's a Hungarian actress
Speaker 4: with the flat top and for the flat top. But yeah,
Speaker 4: are you a God?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 4: And Winston's great line when someone asks you if you're God.
Speaker 2: You say yes. Dammit, you say yes.
Speaker 4: He's got some good one liners that just kind of
Speaker 4: come out of nowhere. I think they're like they knew
Speaker 4: that they shafted the part. He was just happy to
Speaker 4: be a part of the movie. And he also did
Speaker 4: get a bigger part in the second one.
Speaker 2: So he did get a bigger part in the second one.
Speaker 2: But what people discount, which is one of the best
Speaker 2: scenes in Ghostbusters is when Winston and Ray are in
Speaker 2: the call I got notes about that, yes, And he
Speaker 2: says something about do you believe in God? And Dan
Speaker 2: Aykroyd says something and he was like, I love Jesus's style.
Speaker 14: And they talk about the end times and talk about
Speaker 14: the revelations in this revelation, Harry, do you believe in God?
Speaker 2: Never met him?
Speaker 12: And I love Jesus's style.
Speaker 2: You know, it's roof cap.
Speaker 11: It's made of a magnesium touched an alloy.
Speaker 5: Involved with.
Speaker 11: These are the blueprints for the structural iron work in
Speaker 11: Dana Barrett's apartment building, and they're very, very strange it.
Speaker 12: Ray, do you remember something in the Bible about the
Speaker 12: last days when the dead would rise from the grave?
Speaker 11: I remember Revelation seven twelve, and I looked as he
Speaker 11: opened the sixth seal, and behold there was a great earthquake,
Speaker 11: and the sun became as black as sackcloth, and the
Speaker 11: moon became his blood, and.
Speaker 12: The seas boiled, and the skies filled.
Speaker 11: Judgment Day, Judgment Day. Every ancient religion has its own
Speaker 11: myth about the end.
Speaker 4: Of the world myth.
Speaker 12: Gray, has it ever occurred to you? And maybe the
Speaker 12: reason we've been so busy lately, it's because it did
Speaker 12: have been rising from the grave.
Speaker 4: How about little music?
Speaker 2: That that's Winston, which people don't give him credit for
Speaker 2: having a cooler part because he's literally brought the one
Speaker 2: that brought.
Speaker 4: It up, I know. And then Ray like mentions this
Speaker 4: passage and Winston finishes it and it's the sixth Seal
Speaker 4: and to me that I ever since, because I'm a
Speaker 4: huge Waco guy and this is the thirtieth anniversary of Waco.
Speaker 4: Whenever you hear anything about the Seven Seals, I can't
Speaker 4: not think about David Koresh because his whole fucking shtick
Speaker 4: was him interpreting the Seven Seals of the Revelations in
Speaker 4: a way that no one ever had. That's why he
Speaker 4: had that cult. I'm sure you know.
Speaker 2: Can you read it? Can you read us the scripture
Speaker 2: that they were.
Speaker 4: Quoting Revelation sixth Seal? Because I do think that it's
Speaker 4: kind of interesting to me that this is a movie
Speaker 4: where they mix paranormal religion and science and they do
Speaker 4: it quite well.
Speaker 2: It's oh phenomenal.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 4: So here is what is the sixth Seal? And revelation
Speaker 4: I looked when he opened the sixth seal, and behold
Speaker 4: there was a great earthquake, and the sun became black
Speaker 4: as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became like blood,
Speaker 4: and the stars of heaven fell to the earth as
Speaker 4: a fig tree drops its late figs when it is
Speaker 4: shaken by a mighty wind.
Speaker 2: Yep, that's the one they read, and then they go
Speaker 2: Judgment Day, Judgement.
Speaker 4: I love how they're like, it's all creepy and silent.
Speaker 4: They're like, let's turn on the radio, like let's.
Speaker 2: Right, but so like, as far as that goes, I
Speaker 2: think it's an interesting tie in with Zuel. And they're
Speaker 2: talking about the Sue Marian god and blah blah blah,
Speaker 2: and Zuel is a real creature that existed millions of years.
Speaker 4: Ago, and it says, did you sayllions.
Speaker 2: Millions of years ago? According to this article I found
Speaker 2: in it says, but in reality, the doglike creature represented
Speaker 2: in Ghostbusters as a representation of the hounds of Hell
Speaker 2: guarding the Demi god Gozer as she is summoned in
Speaker 2: the end times. And what's interesting, right, So what I've
Speaker 2: been harping on people is that I think the Antichrist
Speaker 2: in real life will be female, whether that be a
Speaker 2: born female or otherwise.
Speaker 4: So Elon Musk is going to have a transition.
Speaker 2: I swear, think about it.
Speaker 4: Colbe, Hey, I'm all about it. I mean transgender, transhuman
Speaker 4: Transhumanism is the anti Christ personified myself.
Speaker 2: But everyone's looking for this male, this Antichrist being a man.
Speaker 2: But I think it's going to be a female.
Speaker 4: I'm just you have anybody in mind, not at the moment,
Speaker 4: but I maybe they haven't presented themselves yet.
Speaker 2: I don't think so. No, I don't think. So be
Speaker 2: on the lookout and just know, Colby, look into my eyes.
Speaker 2: You heard it on the Cosmic Peach podcast. First, do
Speaker 2: you want to jump into Ghostbusters too real quick?
Speaker 13: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I did want to before we do that kind of
Speaker 4: mention some things about the cartoon that I find interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 4: So the cartoon ran for fuck It was a few seasons.
Speaker 4: It was one of my favorite Saturday morning cartoons. Slammer
Speaker 4: is actually like a pet in that show. You know,
Speaker 4: he talks and shit. Did you ever watch any of it?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 2: I think it was before my time.
Speaker 4: So Peter is like redheaded, and you know who does
Speaker 4: his voice at first? Is the guy that voiced Garfield really,
Speaker 4: which is all weird because years later it later Toocarf. Yes,
Speaker 4: Bill Murray, so they must have some kind of sound alike,
Speaker 4: because later Bill Murray does I think after the actor died.
Speaker 4: The voice actor died. I don't remember his name off
Speaker 4: the top of my head, but I do believe Bill
Speaker 4: Murray was like given a handsome sum to voice Scarfield
Speaker 4: in the real movie. And then Bill Murray said that
Speaker 4: guy sounds nothing like me. And so after that was
Speaker 4: and this might just be circumstantial, I don't know, but
Speaker 4: after that comment was made by Bill Murray, they fired
Speaker 4: him and they got Dave Cooier, who played Joey on
Speaker 4: Full House. He voiced the guy for the but and
Speaker 4: he sounds more like him, but the other guy had
Speaker 4: like better timing. I think it just from what I remember,
Speaker 4: you can't tell a difference. But also this is you
Speaker 4: know how I said, Ernie Hudson got the shaft he
Speaker 4: auditioned to. He must have been hurting for workout this
Speaker 4: He auditioned do his own fucking voice, and they turned
Speaker 4: him down. Wow, gave it to Ursinial Hall.
Speaker 2: I love Arsenial Hall.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so that was Arsenial Hall. Was hot at the time.
Speaker 4: He'd just gotten his own show. He was fresh up
Speaker 4: coming to America and he'd gotten his own.
Speaker 2: Lady Dude, I had a crush on Arsenial Hall for
Speaker 2: the longest time. It's super random, but like, I just
Speaker 2: loved coming to America. I loved the character he played.
Speaker 2: He's cute, but I mean, yeah, he was so hilarious.
Speaker 2: If you can make me laugh, that's it. I love you.
Speaker 2: I don't know why that is.
Speaker 4: But like.
Speaker 2: Some people it's laughter, some people it's food. You know,
Speaker 2: who knows. But I did also read something about the
Speaker 2: cartoon version of Janine Melnitz was completely different than the
Speaker 2: real life how they portrayed her in the first Ghostbusters
Speaker 2: and everybody was like, you should read change her look.
Speaker 4: She had the rimmed glasses and the horn rim glasses,
Speaker 4: and they actually changed them and they sexed her up
Speaker 4: a little bit.
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, they did. They definitely did, because in
Speaker 2: the first one she has that real short haircut, real
Speaker 2: plane ing, and then in Ghostbusters too, she gets this
Speaker 2: makeover where she has this blunt cut bob. It's super orange,
Speaker 2: coppery red, and she's wearing bright red lipstick. Everything about
Speaker 2: her she looks like if you mixed Daphanie and Velma
Speaker 2: into the same character. That's Jenny Melmots.
Speaker 4: Right from the second one though, mm hmmm yeah in
Speaker 4: the second one.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then something else interesting that I learned about
Speaker 2: Ghostbusters too, is that the scene where they're in the courthouse,
Speaker 2: the Scullari brothers are modeled after the Blues Brothers.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm. I could see that. I didn't know that,
Speaker 4: but as soon as you said it, it makes perfect sense.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: Something else that is like a weird tie in is
Speaker 2: the little bastard kid from the birthday party that they
Speaker 2: go to at the beginning. Yeah, I thought, man, dude,
Speaker 2: that little asshole shit fuck went on to be the
Speaker 2: director of Ghostbusters after Life.
Speaker 4: Oh that's because that's Ivan Rightmand's son, Yeah, Jason Raitman right,
Speaker 4: He didn't know, so he just used his real kid
Speaker 4: for that role.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 4: I wondered if we're going to talk about Afterlife. I
Speaker 4: already showed you how much I hated the twenty.
Speaker 2: Sixteen I didn't hate After Life.
Speaker 4: No, I hated the reboot in twenty sixteen with but
Speaker 4: email cast. I thought After Life was good. I wasn't
Speaker 4: expecting to like it. It was like he bought it.
Speaker 4: It's good and it's dude, I don't care what you say.
Speaker 4: You have to love Paul Rudd, like.
Speaker 2: Like, I wish they would have I wish they would
Speaker 2: have cast someone else to play the mom.
Speaker 4: I think I don't even know who she is perfectly. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and it's funny too because the kid from Stranger Things
Speaker 4: they had a Ghostbusters I don't remember what she's in
Speaker 4: Stranger Things. Where he's where they're doing the Ghostbusters Halloween costume, right,
Speaker 4: maybe he gets to be in the movie goes the sequel.
Speaker 4: It's technically a sequel, right, yeah, it is. The the
Speaker 4: other ones are reboot because there there's no original Ghostbusters
Speaker 4: in that universe. They're the first, and they get Chris
Speaker 4: Himsworth to be the secretary.
Speaker 2: It's stupid. It's too stupid to be an enjoyable movie.
Speaker 4: It's the example of instead of us making our own ship,
Speaker 4: let's just redo stuff men did, even though we think
Speaker 4: we're better.
Speaker 2: Like that's what I and it wasn't better at all.
Speaker 4: It was it wasn't worth finishing as far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 4: Like everybody's like, oh it's okay anyway. Sorry, So Afterlife though, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I think so.
Speaker 2: For me, it goes Ghostbusters. Ghostbusters to Afterlife is the
Speaker 2: third installment of this timeline, right, and I think that
Speaker 2: it's great. Yeah, I hope so, I hope fucking so.
Speaker 4: I love the stay puffed in the grocery store scene
Speaker 4: over there no one else. I love.
Speaker 2: It's set in Oklahoma.
Speaker 4: Oh is that where it's at?
Speaker 2: And being an Oklahoma I think that's extremely interesting because
Speaker 2: they find these caves and right, I was so sad.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna even pretend that I didn't cry at
Speaker 2: the end. When they brought the ghost of Gone back.
Speaker 4: Oh, I was like, because when did he die? Like
Speaker 4: a year? Was that move years ago?
Speaker 2: Two or three years ago? Maybe?
Speaker 4: Do you know if that movie was filmed before he died,
Speaker 4: because I think it's pretty close.
Speaker 2: I think that he was supposed to be in it,
Speaker 2: but then he died.
Speaker 4: So they just did a hologram. They brought the other
Speaker 4: three back for that last scene.
Speaker 2: So fucking fantastic. Would a blowout?
Speaker 4: Oh my god? I always thought in the they would
Speaker 4: bring Oscar back as an adult in the in whatever
Speaker 4: sequel happens.
Speaker 2: So I got some stuff on that, but don't let
Speaker 2: me get ahead of myself here, so let's go on.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: The guy who played Yanush was this The character was
Speaker 2: originally written as like this straight laced character named Jason.
Speaker 4: But after the actor this is the museum guy.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, the curator guy. So like after he read
Speaker 2: the script, he actually was the one who said that
Speaker 2: he thinks that Yanush should be like this flamboyant Eastern
Speaker 2: European curator guy. And so he came up with this
Speaker 2: whole character that he thought it should be. And after
Speaker 2: they heard him out on that, they loved it, and
Speaker 2: he was like, you know what, actually, Yanush should be
Speaker 2: like of Carpathian origin, which would add like a whole
Speaker 2: nother connection to him and Vigo.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because he's definitely got a connection with that fucking.
Speaker 2: Thing, right, And so they were like, go for it,
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 4: All and imagine like he he's memorable in that role the.
Speaker 5: Way it is.
Speaker 2: I think some of the funniest parts in that movie
Speaker 2: came from Yanu.
Speaker 4: You know, my favorite lion is I don't remember which
Speaker 4: character asks him where he's family. He's like the other
Speaker 4: of us, side of us. My sister says that lie
Speaker 4: to this day, us side he's like asking if what
Speaker 4: the fucking accident's all about? Basically, and it's.
Speaker 2: Like where are you from anyways, Johnny, and he's like
Speaker 2: upper vast side.
Speaker 4: Aren't you going to introduce me to your friend?
Speaker 1: Sure, Peter Wenkman.
Speaker 4: This is a doctor Giannishpoha, the head of our department. Yes,
Speaker 4: I have, of course have seen you on the television
Speaker 4: christ Enjoy and you're not your own business, I hope.
Speaker 9: Well, it's top secret.
Speaker 7: If everything you're.
Speaker 4: Doing is bad, I want you to know this. You'll
Speaker 4: be careful there, all right, no one listens to me.
Speaker 12: Well, I'll give you a rein.
Speaker 10: Sec See, Johnny, you gotta go again to No.
Speaker 9: Actually, I'm preparing this port for a new romantic exhibition.
Speaker 4: Yes, this is Prince Rigo.
Speaker 8: They roll up Inda sit of assisi Ai.
Speaker 4: It was a very powerful magician, doctor Ringkman, and they're
Speaker 4: a genius in many ways.
Speaker 1: He was also a lunatic and a genocidal madman.
Speaker 7: I hate this painting.
Speaker 1: I felt uncomfortable ever since it came up from storage.
Speaker 10: Well, you're probably feeling what Vigo is feeling. Carpathian kitten loss.
Speaker 10: He's missed his kitten. We'll just put one in here
Speaker 10: by the cats.
Speaker 5: Ncol goal.
Speaker 4: Yes, I think, yes, did the joyful missus over he's.
Speaker 10: Kidding, Well, you're not going to get a green carry
Speaker 10: with that attitude.
Speaker 13: I wait, they were the vego.
Speaker 5: A vegle, the sculpture of Oh you told me this
Speaker 5: discouraged a sorrows.
Speaker 4: I've heard all of this yet command you command me?
Speaker 1: Lord?
Speaker 12: Wow, ladyship took me?
Speaker 2: What who? This is a surprise? Oh?
Speaker 4: Hello, Yes, I happen to be here in this neighborhood.
Speaker 4: And I thought that I would so bunny to see
Speaker 4: how how it was, you know, because of all this blackness.
Speaker 4: It was. We're fine, thank You're okay? How is the
Speaker 4: A B B?
Speaker 1: Oh he's he's okay, he's sleeping. Oh but I would okay, Oh,
Speaker 1: please go, he's yours.
Speaker 8: Race second, I have discussed race stats from the Ghostbusters.
Speaker 8: I tell you, we're just doing a routine spook check
Speaker 8: doctor Raymond.
Speaker 2: Then he's not here.
Speaker 10: Yeah we know that, Johnny, So why are you king? Well,
Speaker 10: we got to report there was a major creep in
Speaker 10: the area. We checked our list, and you were right
Speaker 10: on the top.
Speaker 2: Johnny.
Speaker 10: Where the hell are you from?
Speaker 1: Anyway?
Speaker 4: They are provest side. You know, I've only seen that
Speaker 4: actor in one other movie, and it's you.
Speaker 2: Haven't seen him in a couple movies.
Speaker 4: He did some right one I could I could think
Speaker 4: of that, I've seen him.
Speaker 2: Man, Have you been keeping up with my show at all?
Speaker 13: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I listened to so it's I listened to it sporadically.
Speaker 4: I've tried to keep up with so many I no, no, no, I.
Speaker 2: Was just curious because I recently did an episode with
Speaker 2: my cousin and my brother and we went to the
Speaker 2: Franklin Castle, this.
Speaker 4: Super hot that one's on my cue right now. So
Speaker 4: your brother the musician, yes, so.
Speaker 2: Oh you'll love it Colby. So like my brother and
Speaker 2: my cousin and I went to this super hanted place
Speaker 2: and yeah, we did a tour of it, but our
Speaker 2: tour guide was fucking Yanosh did about him, yes, And
Speaker 2: it was like if if the kid from the Burbs
Speaker 2: that said it came with the frame and Yanush had
Speaker 2: a baby. This is the guy that was taking us
Speaker 2: on a tour, right, But like there was so many
Speaker 2: scenes at the beginning with Dana where he's he says,
Speaker 2: do I have a bad breast of something?
Speaker 4: Or like yeah, he might be like one of the
Speaker 4: funniest parts of that movie.
Speaker 2: Oh, he is, for sure. And he goes to check
Speaker 2: on Dana after this big power outage and he's like
Speaker 2: you and she's like, oh, be quiet, the baby sleeping,
Speaker 2: and he's like, oh, I'm sorry, I would just everything
Speaker 2: about his character is hilarious. Now here's where it takes
Speaker 2: a sinister turn? Are you ready? Colby?
Speaker 4: Always ready for a sinister turn?
Speaker 13: Now?
Speaker 2: The role of Dana's son, Oscar was played by newborn twins.
Speaker 4: Of course, that's common because of the laws with how long.
Speaker 2: They can be like Mary Kate Nashley and full house
Speaker 2: kind of thing.
Speaker 4: Right, the big daddy kid, he's twin, now.
Speaker 2: Are you ready? It was played by Hank and William Duchendorphin.
Speaker 4: No fucking way. So this is John Denver's relatives.
Speaker 2: The nephews of folk singer John.
Speaker 4: I only know about John Duchschendorffin from the fucking episode
Speaker 4: we did Abou Laurel Kenyon together. I didn't know that
Speaker 4: was his fucking surname. Boom, that is John. So is
Speaker 4: it his? It's gotta be his brother's.
Speaker 2: Kids, then, yes, his brothers.
Speaker 4: And they named him Hank and William Hank.
Speaker 2: And William Duchendorphin.
Speaker 4: That is a find. That is a fine right there,
Speaker 4: listen to this shit.
Speaker 2: Tragically, Hank struggled with severe mental illness. He was diagnosed
Speaker 2: with d ID, schizophrenic disorder, bipolar and anxiety attacks, which
Speaker 2: ultimately led to him taking his own life at age
Speaker 2: twenty nine in twoenty seventeen.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 2: And since his brother's death, William Dutchendorphin has worked extensively
Speaker 2: to promote awareness of mental health issues and suicide prevention.
Speaker 2: First off, we got twins, John Denver like the whole
Speaker 2: connection d id so we're talking about mk ultra on
Speaker 2: these hits.
Speaker 4: One Colby, gimme the fucking family is enough for me
Speaker 4: to even like entertain that idea. But the fact that
Speaker 4: he's disassociating, he's schizophrenic, and he was in the movies
Speaker 4: when he was fucking not even old enough to walk.
Speaker 2: Ghostbusters Part two.
Speaker 4: Oh they're gonna get dark Ghostbusters?
Speaker 2: Oh shit, like that is absolutely mind blowing.
Speaker 4: So did Ivan Rightman produce the second Ghostbusters? I know
Speaker 4: he produced the first one?
Speaker 2: He yes, he did.
Speaker 4: Hank show production. Mm hmm, that's that's too bad. I
Speaker 4: didn't want this to have any of that kind of
Speaker 4: stuff in it, but apparently you can't fucking touch a
Speaker 4: mainstream movie without some kind of twisted little thing like this.
Speaker 4: This was Hank or William, So.
Speaker 2: Hank and William started in the movie, but Hank was
Speaker 2: the one who killed himself.
Speaker 4: Pour one out for Hank right now.
Speaker 2: Yep, let's take a cheer. Supposed to be accident, but
Speaker 2: clinky clink cheers.
Speaker 4: You will not be forgotten, Hank.
Speaker 2: Du Chendorphin. So along with the more sinister ties, I've
Speaker 2: done a lot of research on the nepheline.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and.
Speaker 2: A lot of the fairy folklore comes from nepheline, and
Speaker 2: like they were really real and they're considered fairies. But
Speaker 2: that was just like a bloodline of nepheline.
Speaker 4: What about chance?
Speaker 2: Yes, same thing, same thing. And Dan Aykroyd actually wrote
Speaker 2: the script for Ghostbusters Too to take place in Scotland,
Speaker 2: and he wanted them to be hunting subterranean fairy folk.
Speaker 4: You know, he never gets his way. His first I
Speaker 4: was just like, hey, come back when you got two
Speaker 4: hundred million dollars, Dan, I know, right, Do you.
Speaker 2: Remember the soundtrack for Ghostbusters Too?
Speaker 4: Is it as iconic as the first one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because there's that song by Bobby Brown and it's
Speaker 2: on Our Way or something like that, or like Our
Speaker 2: on Our I'm like trying to remember the title and
Speaker 2: I just can't, but it's it's the song that says,
Speaker 2: wake up, wake up, wake up.
Speaker 13: You know that song.
Speaker 2: I really wanted to actually put that as part of
Speaker 2: my intro. I was gonna make a new intro and
Speaker 2: include that song as part of it, but it just
Speaker 2: was really long and I couldn't find the perfect segment
Speaker 2: to include it into the intro. But that song is
Speaker 2: like a conspiracy theorist in a nutshell, and I love
Speaker 2: that song. It was actually on number one outside of
Speaker 2: the movie for a couple of weeks because it was
Speaker 2: just such a catchy song, but along the same kind
Speaker 2: of like sinister Taste in Our Mouth, which I don't
Speaker 2: want to spend too much time on it. But we've
Speaker 2: got to talk about everything. The Vigo the car paid
Speaker 2: in the painting, Uh, he was the full name of
Speaker 2: the character in the movie, was Vigo von Homburg Duchendorphin.
Speaker 2: What they included?
Speaker 4: What the fuck they included the louse.
Speaker 2: Name into the characters name.
Speaker 4: That's weird. You can google it, I believe you. I
Speaker 4: just fucking think it's weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So Vigo the Carpathian, Like, the full name is
Speaker 2: Vigo von Homberg Duchendorphin.
Speaker 4: So does John Denver besides having nephews in this movie,
Speaker 4: have anything to do with the movie.
Speaker 2: No, not really, other than his last name and his nephews.
Speaker 4: But it's just that's not like a common name. Maybe
Speaker 4: it is Germany, Yeah, but what if it's like Anderson
Speaker 4: in Germany or some shit. No, come on, dude, I've
Speaker 4: never heard it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty.
Speaker 4: I've never been to Germany either, but you know.
Speaker 2: But so, this is the Scourge of Carpathia, the Sorrow
Speaker 2: of Maldavia, and this character in the movie history would
Speaker 2: remember as a powerful magician, an intelligent genius, but also
Speaker 2: an oppressive, tyrant and egotistical aristocrat, a psycho, psychopathic lunatic,
Speaker 2: a genocidal madman, and his titles also included Vigo the
Speaker 2: Crew WeGo, The Torturer, WeGo, The Despise WeGo, The Unholy Right?
Speaker 2: Bnkman says, wasn't he also remembered as Vigo the Butch.
Speaker 4: I know that far, it's I can't. I can't. I
Speaker 4: can't wrap my mind around this duchendorphin thing because he's
Speaker 4: literally trying to put himself into the body of this
Speaker 4: kid twins and then.
Speaker 2: One goes on to murder himself later in life. Okay, Colby,
Speaker 2: now this this Vigo, the Carpathian character, was the final
Speaker 2: boss in the video games that were based on the
Speaker 2: Ghostbusters two and he was like the main antagonist in
Speaker 2: the adventure and in the game. To defeat his defenses
Speaker 2: and approach him, the players had to utilize effigies of
Speaker 2: the tin Man, Scarecrow, and Cowardly Lion from The Wizard
Speaker 2: of Oz. And in the original cut of Ghostbusters two,
Speaker 2: when Vigo's painting melts, the Ghostbusters are shown as the
Speaker 2: Wizard of Oz characters.
Speaker 4: That's interesting, a little Wizard of Oz tyan.
Speaker 2: So now we have in the original script then being
Speaker 2: in Scotland defeating fairy folk with John Denver's nephews and
Speaker 2: turning into Wizard of Oz characters, and in god damn
Speaker 2: Ghostbusters too. Can I get a holler?
Speaker 4: I was gonna watch this because I told Julia before
Speaker 4: we started recording that I thought I was going to
Speaker 4: have time because I watched Ghostbusters one two nights ago.
Speaker 4: I was gonna watch Ghostbusters two right before we recorded,
Speaker 4: but I ended up getting my time wrong. So I
Speaker 4: haven't watched this movie in like five years at least.
Speaker 4: So now that you've told me all this shit, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna watch this tonight and I might get possessed. I
Speaker 4: don't fucking know.
Speaker 2: If you do, just text me so I can say
Speaker 2: some prayers for you.
Speaker 4: Okay, I will thank you.
Speaker 2: What do you think about all that though?
Speaker 4: Like I mean, I didn't think that this episode was
Speaker 4: going to go down that path because I didn't know
Speaker 4: any of this stuff, and that's it's tripping me out,
Speaker 4: Like I you know, a lot of people that do
Speaker 4: conspiracy kind of stay away from the fantastical stuff and
Speaker 4: they just want. But I loved the paranormal ethereal elements
Speaker 4: of it, and Hollywood has become one of my because
Speaker 4: I used to want. Like I moved to Hollywood right
Speaker 4: after I graduated high school. I was going to be
Speaker 4: a screenwriter and I ended up going to film school
Speaker 4: in Arizona instead because it didn't work out in LA
Speaker 4: and that place creeped me the fuck out. And if
Speaker 4: I would have known back then everything I owned Now,
Speaker 4: I wouldn't even gone there. But having been there and
Speaker 4: having walked Hollywood Boulevard and Vine and all that stuff,
Speaker 4: I never did go to Laurel Canyon. I wish I
Speaker 4: would have. But there's something about that place. And now
Speaker 4: every fucking innocent movie from Ghostbusters two on has some
Speaker 4: kind of weird ass tie to this shit.
Speaker 2: It's only for like those who have the eyes to see,
Speaker 2: because on surface level, it's just a comedy. But then
Speaker 2: you dig a little deeper and it's like, why are
Speaker 2: John Denver's nephews in this movie? Like, of all the
Speaker 2: kids you could have chosen, why them?
Speaker 4: And it just needed some twins?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, if i'm gonna rate one to ten slimers,
Speaker 2: Ghostbusters Part one gets ten slimers, Ghostbusters Part two gets
Speaker 2: eight slimers, and Ghostbusters After Life gets ten slimers.
Speaker 4: Oh wow, you liked the third one that much? Okay,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go ten slammers for the original. I'm gonna
Speaker 4: go I'm gonna give you a davy wavy number, and
Speaker 4: I'm gonna go six and a half on Ghostbusters.
Speaker 2: Two and it's zero point five slid.
Speaker 4: Six point three three, and I'm gonna give After Life
Speaker 4: eight because because I was expecting a four. And it
Speaker 4: blew my mind because they who wrote that script?
Speaker 5: Do you know?
Speaker 2: Off the top of your head, I can google it.
Speaker 4: It wasn't dan Akrod, I don't know, but whoever did it?
Speaker 4: They focused on this little girl who is the clearly
Speaker 4: on the spectrum grandchild of Egon, and she did such
Speaker 4: a good job. And I love that they have a
Speaker 4: character named podcast.
Speaker 2: You know that that is the best edition they could
Speaker 2: have possibly done, is include a podcast.
Speaker 4: I was watching this with a group of friends when
Speaker 4: it first came out and they said podcast they called that,
Speaker 4: and everybody just looked at me, like because I'm the
Speaker 4: podcaster in my friend group, and I'm like, yeah, that's me.
Speaker 4: Would you know what.
Speaker 2: Colby, just to tie in, like with what you were
Speaker 2: saying earlier, he was a conspiracy theorist exactly. He was
Speaker 2: a paranormal.
Speaker 4: He was me like, that's why everybody looked at me
Speaker 4: like that because and he's always recording mm hmmm.
Speaker 2: He was like, say that into the microphone and he
Speaker 2: talked about what lizard people Beyoncey like all. I was like,
Speaker 2: how did they even how is this even in this movie.
Speaker 4: It's such a prose it held true. I mean, if
Speaker 4: they would have, like, let Kate McKinnon and Melissa McCarthy
Speaker 4: write it.
Speaker 2: Jason Reitman, he wrote it. Yep.
Speaker 4: So he's a little punk ass bitch from this.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 4: I love that scene because you can tell, like we
Speaker 4: to harken back to that scene in the car where
Speaker 4: they're discussing the end times, you can tell that Ray
Speaker 4: and Winston kind of have bonded throughout the five years.
Speaker 4: They're like best buds, I know.
Speaker 2: And then it picks back up with that in Ghost Posters. Dude,
Speaker 2: do you remember the scene? Do you remember the scene
Speaker 2: where they're like in the underground tunnels under New York
Speaker 2: and they're like calling out names or whatever, and then
Speaker 2: the train, the ghost train comes and it passes through
Speaker 2: Winston and he's.
Speaker 4: Like, it reminds me of the Slammer scene from the
Speaker 4: first one, where he's.
Speaker 2: Like, ah, Winston got better scenes and Ghost Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think they really made up for shafting him in
Speaker 4: the first one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4: And Ernie Hudson's gone on to do such great things too.
Speaker 2: I loved his character because he was like the proverbial
Speaker 2: like whatever you say, uh kind of you know, go
Speaker 2: with the flow, but also like fuck you white guys,
Speaker 2: Like I'm not doing that. But at the same time
Speaker 2: he's like, I'll do it.
Speaker 4: Oh when what you just reminded me of one of
Speaker 4: my favorite lines that he says in the first one,
Speaker 4: when they're talking to the Mare and he's like, since
Speaker 4: I joined these guys, I've seen ship that will turn
Speaker 4: you white.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just like and as a little kid, I
Speaker 4: thought it meant that the blood left your face, but
Speaker 4: you know, I think it meant.
Speaker 2: There was a scene in the second one. I talked
Speaker 2: about this a little bit on my Patreon because something
Speaker 2: really weird happened to me like a couple weeks ago.
Speaker 2: But there's a scene in Ghostbusters too where they're trying
Speaker 2: to drill down to the river of slime and Egon's
Speaker 2: like with the cuts.
Speaker 4: Wearing the hard hats and the construction.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the cops stopping him and they're like, why
Speaker 2: are you cutting.
Speaker 4: And he's like, oh, I don't know, brons accident.
Speaker 2: Yeah, He's like, what do you mean, I'm my cut,
Speaker 2: And so like a couple of weeks ago, and I
Speaker 2: told Davy Wavy about this. I don't know if he
Speaker 2: told you or not, but like, I had this weird
Speaker 2: thing happen to me where I was watching Ghostbusters too,
Speaker 2: and it was right at that scene where they're doing
Speaker 2: the cutting, and I was like laughing. And you know,
Speaker 2: when you watch something that you've watched a million times
Speaker 2: for some reason, it's easier for you to like go
Speaker 2: to sleep.
Speaker 4: One the other night.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just it's just relaxing and you're just kind
Speaker 2: of going along with the flow. And it was right
Speaker 2: at that scene and I fell asleep, and then I
Speaker 2: remember I woke up and the TV was off and
Speaker 2: it was completely dark in my room, and I swear
Speaker 2: to God, like I had like this whole conversation with
Speaker 2: my husband, and then I kind of rolled over and
Speaker 2: I saw him come in from the hallway into the bedroom,
Speaker 2: into the bathroom, and I clicked on my lamp on
Speaker 2: the side of my bed, and it turned out that
Speaker 2: he was in the bathroom the whole time. And he
Speaker 2: swears to God that I was super high and I
Speaker 2: imagined the whole thing. But I'm telling you, a five
Speaker 2: milligram weed gummy does not cause hallucinations.
Speaker 4: Like I had. You're no like stranger to the Edibles, right.
Speaker 2: No, that's the thing Kolby is. Like I had a
Speaker 2: whole conversation with him and he and then I saw
Speaker 2: him come in and I was like, are you trying
Speaker 2: to scare me? And then I look over in the
Speaker 2: bed and like the blanket is perfectly straight and like
Speaker 2: nobody's been in the bed on his side. And he
Speaker 2: told me that I was so high I was imagining it.
Speaker 2: And I said, I've taken weed gummies every night for
Speaker 2: the last like six months, and I wasn't hallucinating. I
Speaker 2: promise you. I wasn't so high that I imagined it.
Speaker 2: And he thinks I was dreaming or sleeping or whatever.
Speaker 2: But it was during Ghostbusters too, and I fell asleep
Speaker 2: during that scene where they were like doing the cutting
Speaker 2: or whatever. And now that I know all the shit
Speaker 2: about I was gonna say, it's a cursed movie, right,
Speaker 2: like the freaking that one that killed John Candy. Maybe
Speaker 2: it's cursed.
Speaker 4: I don't know. Well, yeah, I'm gonna watch it tonight
Speaker 4: and see if anything weird happens to me, because you
Speaker 4: have to look for this, want to watch it? Yeah,
Speaker 4: I'll take notes as if we haven't done this yet
Speaker 4: and tell you if I've noticed anything we didn't talk about.
Speaker 4: But I just I really it just takes me back
Speaker 4: to my childhood. But now that I know Ghostbusters two
Speaker 4: has this element to it, it's kind of creepy and.
Speaker 2: Something else that I wanted to mention that I didn't
Speaker 2: even put in my notes. I don't know why I
Speaker 2: didn't put it in my notes, But do you remember
Speaker 2: the beginning of Ghostbusters too? Peter Vankman's is now the
Speaker 2: host of a time.
Speaker 4: I actually watched that scene last night because they I
Speaker 4: was just scrolling through YouTube and they have the first
Speaker 4: ten minutes for free. That is, to me equally as
Speaker 4: good as the Cards the esp Experiment from the first one,
Speaker 4: because when he's like talking to the guy, he's like
Speaker 4: giving him shit, like, well, your book sales are really
Speaker 4: going to suffer if the fucking world ends this New
Speaker 4: Year's the dick. When he's talking to her, she's like, well,
Speaker 4: she's such a cool little carrict like she's so mousey,
Speaker 4: and just like yeah, this alien in a bar took
Speaker 4: me to his hotel room and he said, it's Valentine's Day.
Speaker 4: What was it twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2: That's when he told me about the end of the world.
Speaker 4: Valentine's Day bummer, So.
Speaker 2: You're your alien had a room at the Holiday Inn, Paramus.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was a room or if
Speaker 2: it was a room on the spaceship made a look
Speaker 2: like a room at the Holidays. But and it's like
Speaker 2: so it's just like so iconic. He's just like shit,
Speaker 2: taking like right to their faces, like okay.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'd say it's it's safe to say Peter
Speaker 4: found his niche a little paranormal fucking talk show where
Speaker 4: he can just talk shit to the guests.
Speaker 2: But it goes back to the first one because when
Speaker 2: he's in Dana's apartment, she goes, you don't remind me
Speaker 2: of a scientist. You're more like you're more like a
Speaker 2: tax show.
Speaker 4: She says, game show, game show host. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 4: that is a good connection. Never thought of that.
Speaker 2: But think of like this speech he gives at the end,
Speaker 2: like when he's wrapping up his episode, he said, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's the thing with aliens. You know, you need a
Speaker 2: nice one every now and again, et starman, But most
Speaker 2: of the time they turn out just to be a
Speaker 2: big lizard.
Speaker 4: That's right.
Speaker 2: He included a lizard person like right there at the end,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 4: And they're so ahead of their time with these references.
Speaker 4: There's something that I took a note on from the
Speaker 4: first one that we didn't talk about, where uh, Dana's
Speaker 4: reading a magazine and she's like, yeah, you know, you
Speaker 4: should really look into this, and he's like, print is dead.
Speaker 4: He said that in nineteen eighty four. Print is dead.
Speaker 4: This is before the fucking internet.
Speaker 2: Egon was ahead of his time, and that's when she
Speaker 2: was like, oh, I do racketball. It's like, what are
Speaker 2: you into it? I collect mold spores and fungus.
Speaker 4: Or four hundred in quotes one. I mean, there's so.
Speaker 2: Many scenes that it's like impossible to cover everything just
Speaker 2: in one episode.
Speaker 4: Well, we did two movies.
Speaker 2: I think that we killed it though. I mean that's
Speaker 2: that's the basis of Ghostbusters.
Speaker 4: I want to ask you something about the second Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: What is your theory on the pink slime? What do
Speaker 4: you think about it? Is that like a reference to something.
Speaker 2: Because it reacts to the emotions. I think that it
Speaker 2: could be based in something real because it's a psychoactive slime.
Speaker 2: Is what they say.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and think about that.
Speaker 2: They win in the end because they positively charge the slime,
Speaker 2: which there's this whole Lady Liberty connection back to like
Speaker 2: why the fuck did they choose to do that? But
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I forgot about the Statue of Liberty. That is. Yes,
Speaker 4: I'm definitely going to watch this movie tonight, Come and
Speaker 4: get me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they put it into a toaster and then they
Speaker 2: play music and it like pops all around the table.
Speaker 4: You remember that. I'm just remembering how much I loved
Speaker 4: the second movie. I said six ' five. If I
Speaker 4: change my answer on that, I'll let you I said
Speaker 4: six point three to three in the end, but I'll
Speaker 4: let you know if I change it. Because that fucking
Speaker 4: toaster scene where they put the music on and it
Speaker 4: starts dancing.
Speaker 2: I think he will. I think you're going to change
Speaker 2: your rating because there's that courtroom scene I was talking
Speaker 2: about earlier with the brothers and uh, he said some
Speaker 2: really iconic stuff, and I'll probably include some quotes from
Speaker 2: that scene in this episode. I'll ask you again, doctor Vankman,
Speaker 2: why were you digging the hall? And please remember you're
Speaker 2: under oath.
Speaker 8: There are some things in this world that go way
Speaker 8: beyond human understanding, things that cannot be explained, things that
Speaker 8: most people don't want to know about.
Speaker 2: That is where we come in.
Speaker 3: So what you're saying is that the world of the
Speaker 3: supernatural is your exclusive province, Kitten.
Speaker 8: I think what I'm saying is that sometimes shit happens,
Speaker 8: someone has to deal with it, and who are you
Speaker 8: gonna call?
Speaker 2: But when they turn on their accelerator packs for the
Speaker 2: first time in five years, they click him on individually, right, and.
Speaker 4: He's like, oh, Ray, yeah, because Ray gets like a
Speaker 4: smile on his face when he gets to say his
Speaker 4: own name. I forgot about that too, But as.
Speaker 2: Soon as you think about it, goalby eight slimers, at
Speaker 2: least give me.
Speaker 4: Julia. I will get back to you on my revised
Speaker 4: rating if there is one after I watch it again,
Speaker 4: because I'm remembering now all these references you're making that
Speaker 4: it is not exactly a remake of the first one
Speaker 4: in the second and third act, It's definitely got some storyline. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but that's okay. Sequels are kind of like that sometimes, right.
Speaker 4: I mean it was supposed to be set in.
Speaker 2: Scotland, Yeah, which I think would have been really interesting.
Speaker 4: You know Ivan, rightman. This is another little trivia fact.
Speaker 4: When Dana is possessed, which is also so the Cards
Speaker 4: in the beginning, It is my favorite scene in that movie.
Speaker 4: But the scene where he is walked into her apartment
Speaker 4: when she's possessed, the whole interaction is like, she's like,
Speaker 4: I want you inside of me. He's like, well, you know,
Speaker 4: there's already at least two people in there. I don't
Speaker 4: know if there's room. And uh so everybody thinks Veigman
Speaker 4: is so creepy, and it's like, dude, he had a
Speaker 4: chance to quote unquote date rape this chick. But why
Speaker 4: did he have thorsin on him?
Speaker 2: Because he's a psychiatrist.
Speaker 4: Right, No, he's a psychologist. If he was a psychiatrist,
Speaker 4: I would get that. Oh, like a lot of people
Speaker 4: are like so I did listen to some podcasts to
Speaker 4: see what other people had to say about it, and
Speaker 4: one guy was like, you'd only bring thorisin on a
Speaker 4: date if you had ill intentions. Like, yeah, but he
Speaker 4: had the chance.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 4: You know, he's not even freaked out with when U
Speaker 4: there is no Dana there is on these zulies, like
Speaker 4: what a lovely singing voice you must have, but you
Speaker 4: know whose voice that is? Of possessed Dana. Oh that's
Speaker 4: Ivan rightman doing that, dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, see, it's like I get it. It was low budget,
Speaker 2: so they only had so much to work with, but
Speaker 2: he knew.
Speaker 4: What he wanted to, like, he kind of probably just
Speaker 4: had it and he probably had some kind of like
Speaker 4: one of those things you talking too, and he made it.
Speaker 4: It sounds fucking great.
Speaker 7: Yep.
Speaker 2: There is no Dana, only.
Speaker 4: Zoo you know. Oh here's another tidbit about that part.
Speaker 4: So Sigourney Weaver when she auditioned for what's her name.
Speaker 2: Dana?
Speaker 4: Oh, I call yeah, I called the wrong person Dana
Speaker 4: earlier when I was talking about Janine anyway, Dana. So
Speaker 4: when she auditioned for Dana, she went in there, she
Speaker 4: didn't say any words, she didn't read the audition that
Speaker 4: they ever. She just fucking got on her hands and
Speaker 4: knees and started acting like a dog. She wanted this
Speaker 4: role so bad that she was like, how can I
Speaker 4: stand out? She and she's fresh off Alien at this point,
Speaker 4: because I think the original Alien was seventy nine. I think,
Speaker 4: so that's fight.
Speaker 2: But that ties back to my last breakdown where we
Speaker 2: talked about Sigourney Weaver and all of the alien movies,
Speaker 2: and it's like she always gets involved in.
Speaker 4: Like the one you did with Drew. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this part so bad an like a dog.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I bet you I haven't just said I
Speaker 4: could do. That's just give her the role. Shit, she
Speaker 4: went beyond and that's kind of the reaction she was
Speaker 4: going for, probably, But.
Speaker 2: So Colby, Julia, can you tell the listeners where they
Speaker 2: can find more of your content? What di did you
Speaker 2: cover on your show and what it is that you
Speaker 2: have going on?
Speaker 4: You know, for the main show is Conspiracy Playtime, And
Speaker 4: if you just do that all one word Conspiracy Playtime
Speaker 4: dot com, that'll take you to our website where if
Speaker 4: our episodes have been removed from YouTube, you'll get directed
Speaker 4: to Rumble and that show. What we always said from
Speaker 4: the beginning was we cover anything conspiratorial, paranormal, metaphysical. We
Speaker 4: even edge into true crime at times. One of our
Speaker 4: best episodes is the Franklin Scandal episode that got taken
Speaker 4: down on YouTube a year and a half after we
Speaker 4: posted it. Oddly enough. I also have a show called Disinfobation,
Speaker 4: which is just a weekly show where a friend of
Speaker 4: Dusty at You Truth Cast on Twitter. He and I
Speaker 4: get together and just talk shit about current events and
Speaker 4: we talk as much nasty shit about politicians, Hollywood, just
Speaker 4: all the bullshit, you know, just like we're courtsters who
Speaker 4: are usually I'm pretty drunk in that one. And he's
Speaker 4: a he, he's a veteran, he's jaded, he knows what's
Speaker 4: going on, he's seen it firsthand. So yeah, those are
Speaker 4: where you can find me. And I would also, since
Speaker 4: I'm gonna post this as a bonus on my feed,
Speaker 4: if you could like plug your shit too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you for that. So of course, I'm Julia.
Speaker 2: I'm the host of the Cosmic Peach podcast and I
Speaker 2: cover pretty much what Colby said.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 2: We do conspiracy, paranormal, supernatural stuff, mysteries, and I dabble
Speaker 2: into the true crime, but only if there's a conspiracy involved,
Speaker 2: like the Franklin cover up, which actually goes hand in
Speaker 2: hand with Johnny Gosh and a lot of.
Speaker 4: That episode of Yours made me decide that I'm going
Speaker 4: to do your Patreon because I have to listen to
Speaker 4: the rest of that.
Speaker 13: Man.
Speaker 2: I found some shit with that Johnny Gosh stuff that.
Speaker 4: Will just change the game for the Patriot part too,
Speaker 4: because I have to. I know, I know it's it's
Speaker 4: and you know what, I quit Patreon. I used to
Speaker 4: have three people I subscribed to, but after they kicked
Speaker 4: off James Corbett and Whitney Webb, I did a boycott.
Speaker 4: But you're gonna bring me back into the Patreon fold.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what, man, I got to take
Speaker 2: care of the patrons first because they're what helps me
Speaker 2: get new equipment.
Speaker 4: Like do all the things really awesome that you do?
Speaker 4: That two three seven thing?
Speaker 2: Thank you?
Speaker 4: That's a good hook. Like if I didn't have access
Speaker 4: to you as a fellow podcaster, I'd be intrigued enough
Speaker 4: to do it. So that's what.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something, Colby, if you sign up
Speaker 2: for the Patreon right now, there's free gift that you
Speaker 2: will want to have if you So, if you were
Speaker 2: ever going to do it, now is the time because.
Speaker 4: I got a how long is this deal? Because I
Speaker 4: get paid in two.
Speaker 2: Weeks while supplies last, But I will put one aside
Speaker 2: risk it.
Speaker 4: I'll wait until it's going to be for week of July, since.
Speaker 2: Well, since you helped me with this episode, I'll put
Speaker 2: one aside for you, and I'll give you more details
Speaker 2: after we're done recording. But it is a Patreon exclusive gift,
Speaker 2: just to say thank you for everyone who's supporting the show.
Speaker 2: And the Patreon is really just so I don't get
Speaker 2: full episodes removed. If I can put half of the
Speaker 2: episode on and save the rest for Patreon, I know
Speaker 2: nothing will ever happen to it. And that's that's just,
Speaker 2: you know, one of the pluses. But thank you for
Speaker 2: joining me.
Speaker 4: Thank you for inviting me. When you told me, because
Speaker 4: I know you're a big horror movie fan. When you
Speaker 4: told me it was Ghostbusters you wanted to cover, I
Speaker 4: was elated just because it's one of my favorite movies
Speaker 4: of all time.
Speaker 2: Oh me to talk about an eighties classic. But as
Speaker 2: a concluding question, Colby, if there's something strange in your neighborhood,
Speaker 2: who are you gonna call?
Speaker 4: Well, Murray, here's my top two. Of course, it's the Ghostbusters.
Speaker 4: Bill Murray is my spirit animal. Though after rewatching it recently,
Speaker 4: I just keep coming back.
Speaker 2: To that, like mineus Jennine Melman.
Speaker 13: Oh there you go.
Speaker 4: See you and I would have some odd interactions then
Speaker 4: like hey, all right, Julia type something well, you were
Speaker 4: paying you for this, but he is such He's so
Speaker 4: dry and sarcastic, and I feel like maybe he had
Speaker 4: some kind of influence on me after watching it so
Speaker 4: many times as a kid.
Speaker 2: That's okay, because he's iconic and U, as long as
Speaker 2: it's not the character from What About Bob, I'm cool
Speaker 2: with U. Yeah, but thank you so much, and to
Speaker 2: all my listeners, thank you and we will catch you
Speaker 2: on the next one.