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Speaker 1: Oh damn it, it's the Internet. You're busy. Let's do this.

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Welcome to the Game As Decides Podcast.

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Speaker 2: This is the podcast where we decide everything about the

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world of video games, so you never have to think

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for yourself.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host. Jeff Grubbin with me is.

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Speaker 3: Not Mike Manatti. It's Jason Snili. Ladies and gentlemen's filling

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in for mister Manatti while he is on assignment in Japan.

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I believe, yes, he's over there in the.

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Speaker 1: Well, he might as well be.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, he's in the phantom zone.

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Speaker 1: We we have banished him so we don't have to

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deal with them. No, he went to s F. Actually

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he went out to go I don't know.

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Speaker 2: As Simon, there's a lot of people on Japan right now,

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there's a lot of people in LA and he's in

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neither neither of those places. He was doing some bespoke

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giant bomb work. Got to hang out with kind of

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Funny as well, so we're happy about that. You guys

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should check out his episode of Kind of Funny Games

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Daily from yesterday. Dan was on the Kind of Funny

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Games cast talking about Ninja Guid and Rage Bound. They're

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doing good work those boys, and then they gotten a

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waymo and destroyed all the goodwill that Giant Bomb had.

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So thanks a lot, guys, appreciate it. Jason, I am done.

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Oh I got to say that in today's episode that

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Partner Direct happened to Mount Rushmore Ballers.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to all of that here in a second.

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It's long, long day for me.

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Speaker 2: It was the Nintendo Direct this morning, and then kind

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of NonStop working on stuff, and then a couple of

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like important meetings after work. So it's just been one

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of those twelve hour days that I ended like enough

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time to do the trash and then.

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Speaker 1: Do this show, which is also the Trash. Hi, everybody,

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I'm glad to get How are you doing.

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Speaker 3: I'm good. I'm another busy day as well. We did

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the talk over this morning, and then a full day

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of work writing news and things like that. We had

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the Battlefield Multiplayer reveal that I cranked out a bunch

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of news for over on game Spot.

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Speaker 1: I didn't time to watch any of that. How did that? Yes?

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How does that look?

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Speaker 3: It looks like Battlefield five, which I think, with the

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existence of twenty forty two being a thing, is a

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compliments it looks fun, it looks like battlefield. There is

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a there is a single player campaign. They only showed

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a thirty second teaser of a girl speaking about the

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world at the moment, how you know people you think

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your allegiances aren't actually and then she randomly throws out

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a quote from Little Finger from Game of Thrones, doesn't

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name it because they don't have the license, she says.

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Speaker 1: The trailer ends.

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Speaker 3: The little teaser ends with like the man says, chaos

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is a ladder, and then it just ends. It's a

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very weird way to end that trailer.

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Speaker 2: But that man is a bad guy from Shanghai Nights

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just said to your internet connection might be a little all.

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You know, you seem deeply out of sync with me

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right now, Are you okay? Your interconnection is still going

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on for for discord, Yeah, it might be coming back.

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Speaker 3: Actually, let me see if I have I can close

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some things. I didn't have anything else open streaming. Maybe

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is messing with me.

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Speaker 2: There was a moment at a couple of seconds ago

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where you broke up and now you're not breaking up anymore,

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but there there.

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Speaker 1: Was a bit of a delay, But I think the

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delance is still there.

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Speaker 2: Actually, now that I'm now that I'm talking to you,

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so you know what you're trying disconnecting and reconnect real

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quick and see if that fixes it?

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Speaker 1: To the call. Yeah, this call.

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Speaker 3: Let's see there we go.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's see what happens everybody. I'm I have

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a lot of faith that this is going.

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Speaker 1: To fix it.

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Speaker 2: You better be fixed, because God wouldn't punish me. You

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had another technical problem today? All right, Jason Fanelli, how.

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Speaker 1: Are you doing?

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Speaker 3: I'm feeling good. You're feeling good? Are we? Are we

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talking to each other? What's going on here?

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Speaker 1: Well? Now you're now your audio is out of sync

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from your human face. Let's see. Okay, I think it

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might be dialing in.

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Speaker 2: It usually just takes a second ye on the bottom

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left the discord where it says video connected.

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Speaker 1: Do you have like four bars or three bars or

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what does it?

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's a one fifty one millisecond.

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Speaker 1: I think I think we're good.

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Speaker 2: I think we're good. Now, I think we're I think

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we're back in sync. Okay, that works for me. Okay,

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So the the game looked all right, looks like Battling

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five that we kind of been maybe been waiting for.

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Speaker 1: I mean, who knows that that's going to be enough

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for what EA wants.

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Speaker 2: But do you get a sense of like how the

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fans are responding so far as they're a little bit

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too early to say.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about that.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: The only people they had in the room were streamers

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and content creators that they you know, flew out there.

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So you got the kind of responses that you would

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expect from people as they were talking to them. No

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offense to them, we get it. I listening to them

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talk sometimes like they just the one girl was like, yeah,

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you know in this one part we did shotguns and

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then we did grenade launchers, and then we did SMGs

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you know that sort of stuff and there and then

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the Golden Boy was like, what about what were the

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teams doing? We're doing any team strategies were We're like,

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we're going She was like, yeah, the one time we

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did shotguns and then we did preade launchers and then

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we did SMGs. I'm like, no, man, he's talking about

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like flanking and then but whatever.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean it.

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Speaker 3: Looked fun that you saw some vehicle stuff, saw some helicopters,

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some fighter jets, saw a little bit of tank gameplay. Sure,

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I mean, it's it's it's it's the rudy tudy shooty

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military game that we've had for all this time. I'm

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not I'm not saying I won't give it a shot,

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but when I'm also not thinking it's gonna blow my

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sox off here. It's just kind of there, just a thing.

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Speaker 1: YEP. I will probably end up playing it, but I don't.

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I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't expect to take over my life, which is

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it feels like one of those games has to take

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over somebody's life, and they think it's going to take

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over one hundred million people's lives.

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Speaker 1: Whatever.

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Speaker 2: Again, that's their problem. I would be happy if I

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just enjoyed the video game. Looks like that might be

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entirely possible. Sure, sure, Now keep me posted if I

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have more tech issues. There is storms in the area

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that might be closed over. A funny story about that.

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So I have been saying all week and on my

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many appearances on Giant Bomb. All of a sudden, I

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appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I appreciate the invite that I was not

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able to make it out to EVO this year. I

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checked tonight on a whim. The flight I would have

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taken was canceled again if I just was not destined

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to go to Vegas this year. I got canceled in

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June for Magic and I couldn't go, And if I

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had gone to EVO, I would not have gone tonight.

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I find that to be the sign I was just

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not meant to be in Vegas this year.

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Speaker 2: Who was stuck in Detroit Airport for like thirty hours

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someone's trying to control.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Jess was stuck. Then it was like, oh, that's

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that stinks, especially like you get to go to Japan. Yeah,

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a lot of part.

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Speaker 3: I was made about waiting for that Vegas flight before

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I canceled. If I was delayed that long going to Japan,

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I would have can what's left of my hair out.

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It would not It wouldn't There's not a whole lot left.

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We're getting to scalp at this point. It would not

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have been It would not have been good. But yeah,

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so the storm A long story short, the storm might

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be causing some weirdness. Just let me know if it

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continues to happen throughout the course of the show. I

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would hate for my first impression to this new audience

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to be a five second delay every time I say

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Speaker 2: Now that the delay seems to have cleared up for now,

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but we'll let you know if there's anything else that happens.

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Speaker 1: You know what, Let's do this. Thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 2: It really has made a huge difference, especially since still

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Speaker 1: At john Bone. So get paid all here helps a hope.

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Speaker 3: Real quick, real quick, quick, hullo you shit wrong show.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, wrong shots. It doesn't matter, proba.

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Speaker 2: These shows start to mush together at my brain at

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a certain point. You could do it if you want.

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Speaker 1: I got some big topics I want to talk to

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you about Jason Pannall you happy if I do that.

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Speaker 2: Let's get it going. Let's start with this one real quick.

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You were mentioning before we got started. You and Christian

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were talking animatedly about cocon and they had some details

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about that. Why don't you guys tell me, because again,

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I've been busy all day, didn't see a single second

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of this.

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Speaker 1: Sounds like it's pretty shit hot.

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Speaker 3: So we don't actually know what it looks like in

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live gameplay yet. The evo has not opened. It opens

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tomorrow and they will have live demos. They have a

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booth there, the old fashioned free booth where you can

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This was a start guide kind of thing or what. Yeah,

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it was a twelve minute eleven twelve minute beginner's guide

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that walked you through mechanics. It walked you through different

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nuances of its gameplay. I find it fast that you

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choose your character and then you choose your three partners.

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You have your one main guy, your point character that

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you'll be controlling in the beginning of the match, and

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you have to earn, for lack of a better term,

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you were three assists. So like, if you do the

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it's called the assemble attack. The assemble attack is the

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is the uh. I think there's an assemble gauge. And

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once you fill one of the notches in the assemble gage,

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if you do a certain move that does the stage transition.

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waiting for you, says I'm here, let's do it, and

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then you can call them in for assists, and then

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you can call you can switch to them. Finally, until

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you build out all four of your team. I Christian

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would have to help me with this. I can't remember

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off the top of my head. Do they share a lifebar?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's all the same lifebar.

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round based. It's not like Marvel versus Capcom, where once

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you eliminate everybody, the match is over. It's one lifebar

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for two or first of three rounds. That'll be decided basically,

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probably through gameplay when it gets to the competiti when

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it actually comes out. But man, man, oh man, does

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it look cool? The control scheme looks cool. There's a

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designated button for this assembling mechanic. There's a designated button

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for gills for special attacks. There's also a quick skill,

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a quick assemble another, a third quick button that I

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hope you can customize with specific Like if I have

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a specific special move that I'm really into, I hope

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I can put that in the quick skill section.

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man I And we'll probably talk about this at a

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later show that might be happening fourteen hours from now.

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the burgeoning tag fighter scene is one of them, with

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Tokon being front and center. Now, I fully expect when

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people get their hands on it, it's going to be

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all that's going to be talked about on that show.

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Forlor it's'll be wild.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm really looking forward to hearing those impressions.

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Speaker 2: You know, we'll probably get Shawn back next week and

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he's going to try to play it and probably get

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some first first hand impressions.

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Speaker 1: From him, and I'm excited to have that happen.

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Speaker 2: He usually does a pretty good job of getting that

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reconnaissance done and telling us all we need to know,

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all right, excellent. EVO starts like in full tomorrow right

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and then goes on the weekend. Not to toot my

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own hoe, but toot toot, motherfucker. If you go to

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game spot right now. I did an EVO twenty twenty five,

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every competition and all the whole schedule basically ten am

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Tomorrow morning Pacific time, one pm Eastern. Ten different sorry,

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nine different streams, but they have ten total throughout the weekend,

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ten different Twitch channels, all with different things. They have tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: The main one which is just called EVO as opposed

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to EVO one. It's confusing. I know the main one

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will have the showcase, which is like panels and announcements.

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It's a Virtual Fighter panel schedule. There's a token panel

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scheduled for eleven o'clock Eastern Tomorrow night. I'll probably stay

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up for that, I know myself. H a whole bunch

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of stuff, and Invincible Versus has ninety minutes on that

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stage as well, and then each of the other channels has.

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EVO four starts with Mortal Kombat and that switches to

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Fatal Fury. I think EVO five goes Fatal Fury and

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then switches to a different game. It's all they have

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it on the website. It's in my article as well.

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You can follow it along Friday, Saturday and Sunday. There's

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only two streams, thank god. One is the main stage,

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which is the top eights. Of the four highest attended

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games this year, street Fighter was the most attended, Tech

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and eight was second, Fatal Fury making its debut was third,

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and Guilty Gear Strive was fourth with the other five

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the other four games, Mortal Kombat was the least. I

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know that. Under Night in Birth I believe was next

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with Grant and then Grand Blue above that, and then

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the Classic game. They do a classic game now every year.

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Marvel versus Capcom two was fifth overall. So yeah, that'll

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be Saturday night those top a it'll be Saturday night.

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they have two channels now devoted to extended lineup games.

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Rivals of eighth or two, which is one that I

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am not very familiar with. Isn't that extended lineup? I'm

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excited to see that Capcom versus s n K two

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is over there in the extended lineup.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 3: I think that's one of your your favorite fighting games. Yes,

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I've heard correctly, So that's over there. Yeah, there's it's

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a there's a whole line up there as well, plus

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all of the other streams going on Team Spooky and

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and all the guys that are doing EVO stuff all

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week long. Max is already there. He did a test

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stream earlier where he watched the to con Beginner's guide

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that I mentioned. It's it's gonna it's a wild, wild time.

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I'm I'm gutted that I'm missing it because twenty four

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was awesome. But you best believe I will have ten

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different windows starting at one pm on these screens, soaking

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it all in. Baby, It's gonna be great.

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Speaker 1: I'm happy for you. Looking forward to watching some of

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it myself.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll talk about a little bit more on Gameless

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Mornings tomorrow as well. Looking forward to it, sir. All right,

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the Nintato direct happened, you know. I don't think we're

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not going to go over all the news. I did

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that on Games Mornings today if people want to hear

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all that. There's definitely some stuff worth calling out again,

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for sure, but mostly kind I want to just talk

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about the reaction, how you're feeling about those switch tos,

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the lineup overall, how you're feeling about the overall quality

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of announcements from third parties, like the meta level stuff here,

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what's been now that you've had a little bit of

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time to sit with it, how are you feeling about it?

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Speaker 3: I do think that the number one prevailing thing that

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comes out to me about this Partner direct today specifically

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is and I spoke about this at the end of

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the talkover that we did earlier today. The fact that

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EA Sports was here twice and e A was here

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three times if you include Apex Legends, bodes well for

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the switch to overall. I believe the fact that that

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that is a company that is not historically taking part

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in Nintendo Direct and that's one of those what weird

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one off EA originals Indie not in these projects that

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they do. So the fact that they showed up and

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bought three slots in this thing kind of tells me

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that they're kind of pushing uh, they're pushing their their

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their chips on the table when it comes to switch

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to it, and we may see some support long term instead

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of just flashing the pants stuff. You never know with

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the A because it's EA. But first impression with them

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at least is good. People were saying, I wish it

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was college football planters of Zombies also ya, so that there.

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Speaker 1: Wow, I forgot about it. A lot of down like

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how well these games do right?

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Speaker 2: Like the like EA is ready to has the waters

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and maybe has high hopes and it's got, you know,

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something in a different category. FIFA seems to be the

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one they're like, we think that we know that audience

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will buy some stuff on Switch, we know the appropriate

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level of support.

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Speaker 1: For Switch to Madden. We'll test it out, We'll see

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what happens.

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Speaker 2: Then Apex legends the update there is like, okay, you know,

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switch to it is more powerful, So let's at least

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get this game running decently and see what happens at

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that point with that game that we are now rededicated

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to and Plants versus Zombies, a very you know, broad

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game in terms of its appeal, feels like that, like, Okay,

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let's see what that does, and if that does pretty well,

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maybe we could try some stuff in this direction, go

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in that direction. EA has had success with the switch

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in fits and starts last year that my SIMS bundle

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apparently did really well on the Switch. So I think

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they're like aware that there is a certain kind of

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audience that will buy a certain kind of game, like

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the SIMS is almost certainly going to head.

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Speaker 1: The Switch to here in the next year or two.

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Speaker 2: Taylor made yes, Yes, it's everything else that I think

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is still a question, like how well does the Madden

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dude that will dictate whether we get college football next year,

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because it's.

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Speaker 3: Not gonna happen. Yeah, I agree one hundred percent, And

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I think between those two games, I think Madden is

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a better first option because it's professional football. I mean,

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the college football, as popular as it is here is

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in the States, is definitely still second fiddle to the pros,

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So putting going Madden first, especially since they're both developed

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by the same studio down in Orlando. So if you

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do well with Madden, you can now take the formula

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for Madden, iterate it for Madden twenty seven, and then

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splinter the team off for the college football version of

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of College Football twenty seven on the switch to Yeah,

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I think that's a I think that makes a lot

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of sense. The one thing I would have changed, I

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think if I were organizing this show, I think I

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would have split up Phillibilitia and Octopath Traveler Zero. I'm

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not calling it Adventures a Valiant. I'm not doing it.

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It's called Philabilitia. Its name is Philibildia.

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Speaker 2: You had a chance, still like reckon with that, because

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when it happened, I was just like, what the fuck

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are they talking about? I couldn't even like really wrap

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my mind around them naming a city and a game

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Philip Beldia. It really does just feel like that, like

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they liked the name the way, like they like the

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way Philadelphia sounded when someone said it, and they're like, well,

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we don't want to put that in there because that'd

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be weird, So let's just change it and no one

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will really know and say everybody knows what you did here.

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Speaker 1: It's very strange. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And then that they were trying to think of a

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way to change the name, and then Jessica Bielle popped

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up on the TV and all of a sudden, they

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it was.

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Speaker 2: We got I have a great idea chocolate.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, I I jumped head first. I don't know

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if you saw my blue sky. Right after that, I

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went and we were talking about the battle system being

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John John.

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Speaker 1: John John, Yeah, very good stuff.

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Speaker 3: Someone called it a John RPG instead of a j RPG,

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which is which is great.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Someone said that they were going to get their Phoenix

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downs from the wah wah it was. It was, it was,

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Oh god, it was. It was incredible. I oh no,

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I don't care. I reckon with it. Are you kidding me?

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I'm thrilled?

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Speaker 1: You know what, do you know what Philadelphia's claim to fame.

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Speaker 3: What the Philadelphias claim to fame in video games is

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now before Philippility, do you know what it is?

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Speaker 1: What is it?

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Speaker 3: The the non advertised but actual setting of Heavy fucking Rain. Really, yes,

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it is heavily rumored without being.

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Speaker 1: Said that.

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Speaker 3: One before he was pressing X to me. That's exactly

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what he was doing, press X, and I mean, yeah,

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that that does really roll off the tongue, doesn't. There

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was a there was a kid in high school who

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didn't know my first name. He had to ask me

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a graduation waiting in line to go to the fields.

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It's just yeah, uh but yeah, unless there's and then

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there's a couple of Madden games this year included with

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Eagles on the cover. Last one was McNabb and O

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six if you recall. But yeah, Philadelphia's legacy inside video

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games is Heavy Rain, and now this maybe some things.

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I'm forgetting Tony Hawk level, as I'm reminded by Cody

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Owens here. Oh it was awesome, I thought. As soon

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as I saw that, I I immediately just jumped on it.

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I latched onto it. Now that being said, the game

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is cool. I did have a chance to sit down

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with the demo for a little while. Love the yeah yeah,

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love the of Mana influences here, the more action RP,

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action oriented combat of the RPG.

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Speaker 1: I think it's closer to that than like Zelda right,

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like it's it's closer to the.

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Speaker 3: I would not call this a link to the past

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like or A or an old school of Zelda like. No,

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it's very much more the of Manas and that's a

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good thing. I think. I think that's a good thing.

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And it's a good thing A for the gameplay of

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this particular game, and b for the future of HD

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two D, because I think they were starting to realize

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that turn based RPGs in HD two D are great,

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but they're starting to wane a little bit. Is just

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they all kind of blend together at some point, even

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though they're from different franchises. So to now inject this,

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maybe we get the of Mata HD two D. If

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this does well, right, you start with the original, just

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like they did without the Paths Traveler. You start with

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the original IP see if people take to it, and

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then branch out into the known franchises again makes perfect sense.

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Same thing we just talked about with Matton. So if

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this is a if this, you know, brings in the

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of man Is or some other weird squaringenox ideas and

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00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,759
this HD to keep this HD two D train going

475
00:22:29,799 --> 00:22:32,640
them all for it. But yeah, the demo so far pretty.

476
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,599
Speaker 2: Good, all right, cool, that's I am happy to hear that.

477
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:41,039
Other things from this direct. Let's see that Hella game

478
00:22:41,079 --> 00:22:43,960
looked really cute with the little mouse, definitely something I'm

479
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:45,920
thinking a lot about. There was supposed to be a

480
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,000
demo for that as well, right, A lot of these

481
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:48,839
said they were gonna have done.

482
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, this one does maybe, sure, but that's out in

483
00:22:52,759 --> 00:22:53,680
twenty twenty six.

484
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,920
Speaker 2: Has the four player really really like the look of that?

485
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,599
Let's see I think, you know, Jason talked about. Those

486
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,359
are the two big games that end of the show,

487
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:06,640
but there's also other RPG things and the strategy RPG's

488
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,640
Final Fantasy Tactics. The Evilist Chronicles showed up again here.

489
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,319
It was nice to see more of that. Yeah, Kauza

490
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,519
Kwami two that is yeah, just continue doing those makes

491
00:23:15,559 --> 00:23:19,839
a ton of sense overall. I'm like, I'm pretty happy

492
00:23:19,839 --> 00:23:21,400
with this direct because I understood what it was going

493
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,039
to be before it happened. And yet I do think

494
00:23:24,079 --> 00:23:28,160
it's like we are in this place where, uh, you know,

495
00:23:28,839 --> 00:23:30,640
we were waiting for a lot of dates from Nintendo,

496
00:23:30,759 --> 00:23:32,799
and why are they being so coy with it? For

497
00:23:32,839 --> 00:23:36,240
a long time there, I've been assuming that these companies

498
00:23:36,279 --> 00:23:39,000
are okay with doing it because they've never really experienced

499
00:23:39,039 --> 00:23:42,160
any detrimental effects from waiting. You hold it close to

500
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:46,599
your chest, you announce it like even two months out,

501
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,079
like I guess, like maybe the norm is three months.

502
00:23:49,319 --> 00:23:51,000
But if you even if youve announced it two months out,

503
00:23:51,559 --> 00:23:53,599
no game that seems to have been announced two months

504
00:23:53,599 --> 00:23:56,680
out has seem to have hurt, and it's in its

505
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,440
sales when it actually like went out, went up and launched.

506
00:23:59,599 --> 00:24:02,000
They all those games do just fine for the most part.

507
00:24:02,279 --> 00:24:04,359
And you can try to imagine a world. Okay, what

508
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,440
if you announced that a year ahead of time, would

509
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,759
you've gotten more sales? No, but you would have spent

510
00:24:08,799 --> 00:24:11,359
a lot more money on marketing. So I assume that's

511
00:24:11,599 --> 00:24:13,960
kind of continues to be what's happening here. But I

512
00:24:14,079 --> 00:24:16,319
wonder if there's more to it than that.

513
00:24:17,039 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 1: I don't know.

514
00:24:17,519 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 2: Some people mentioned that Kit and Krista did their Nintendo

515
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,880
Direct reacts today. They're former Nintendo Treehouse employees, and they

516
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,400
said they had like some concerns. I've had a chance

517
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,359
to listen. I don't know if they listed what those

518
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:32,079
concerns are. But do you think like publishers are being

519
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:36,160
like a little bit not touchy, but a little bit

520
00:24:36,279 --> 00:24:39,279
like skittish about announcing release dates to the point where

521
00:24:39,759 --> 00:24:41,839
it's weird because I don't know if I'm there yet.

522
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 3: I think the potential for a delay and the backlash

523
00:24:49,279 --> 00:24:52,920
that a group of fans might give them may give

524
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:57,640
them paus to lock something in. I think rock Star

525
00:24:57,799 --> 00:25:00,240
is experiencing that right now, because there's already rumor that

526
00:25:00,279 --> 00:25:03,400
it may slip to September twenty twenty six and not

527
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:05,720
make that May twenty six news flash it never was

528
00:25:05,799 --> 00:25:08,279
making Meg got the tinfoil half for that one too.

529
00:25:09,319 --> 00:25:15,640
But no, I think if you have a hard date

530
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:20,039
that you know that you're making, then if you're comfortable

531
00:25:20,079 --> 00:25:23,119
announcing it, announce it there. I mean, that's what Nintendo's doing, right.

532
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,720
We didn't know about Bonanza until April and it came

533
00:25:25,759 --> 00:25:29,160
out what three months later? That makes perfect sense. We

534
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,880
still don't know the Metroid Prime four date. That's probably

535
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,680
that could be coming. We could find that out in

536
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,400
the September direct and it's coming out in November, right,

537
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,680
we don't know, yep. So I think there's nothing wrong

538
00:25:39,759 --> 00:25:44,119
with waiting until the last possible moment to release, the

539
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,440
last possible time to confirm your release date and announcement

540
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:54,000
announce it because news moves so fast now that the

541
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,480
initial wave of pre orders that if you're going to

542
00:25:56,519 --> 00:25:58,559
get pre orders is going to take care of itself,

543
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,920
whether it's like you said, a year or go or

544
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:07,160
three months before, and the less you can spend on marketing,

545
00:26:07,559 --> 00:26:10,279
if you can put that budget somewhere else or just

546
00:26:10,559 --> 00:26:11,799
you know, put it in the war chest for your

547
00:26:11,839 --> 00:26:14,920
next project. That makes sense too. I get I get it.

548
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,680
I get the strategy there, but I don't envy them

549
00:26:18,799 --> 00:26:20,880
having to make any game company having to make a

550
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:25,359
decision on release date, particularly for a highly touted release

551
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,400
like the ever absent Silk Song like the team Cherry.

552
00:26:29,559 --> 00:26:31,880
I cannot imagine what they've been going through now.

553
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: For what now neither were years too much yep.

554
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,799
Speaker 3: And now it seems like they're locked into whatever Xbox

555
00:26:37,839 --> 00:26:41,640
says they have to launch. I imagine that game is likely done.

556
00:26:42,279 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 2: Yeah maybe, I mean again, it's not really like a

557
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:48,920
launch game for the Asus, like they Xbox made it

558
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,680
sound that way. Team Cherry came out and said, it's

559
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,200
not like so, it's kind of like it's happening around

560
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,680
the same time and there's some relationship there.

561
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 1: But I got Team Cherry still has autonomy. I'm like,

562
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:58,880
when they can launch that thing.

563
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 2: Although if they did maybe pick a date to go

564
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,519
alongside Xbox, they were probably handsomely paid for that.

565
00:27:03,759 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: So oh hope hopefully it all works out for them.

566
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,079
Speaker 3: Yeah no, I I frankly, as soon as it said

567
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:13,960
partner direct, my expectations were tempered. I feel like I'm

568
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:18,000
not alone in that. But I don't know. I feel

569
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,359
like this is gonna get me in trouble. But I

570
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,359
feel like I feel like Kitten christ shit stirs a

571
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:25,799
little bit.

572
00:27:25,839 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, definitely, No, absolutely, I love it and

573
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:31,839
for sure yeah yeah, yeah.

574
00:27:32,079 --> 00:27:33,759
Speaker 3: It's sometimes they came out with some takes and I'm

575
00:27:33,799 --> 00:27:37,440
just like, oh, guys, stop it. So it was nice

576
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,279
to hear that they had nice things to say about this.

577
00:27:39,319 --> 00:27:42,359
I didn't get to watch their video after this, uh,

578
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,400
but all in all, I was fine with this direct.

579
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,039
I didn't think it was the you know people like

580
00:27:47,079 --> 00:27:48,480
to come out and say every single direct is the

581
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:53,359
worst video that was ever made, And that wasn't me

582
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,799
in this one. I expected it to be a couple

583
00:27:55,839 --> 00:27:59,880
of interesting things with some ports coming sparkings. Your band

584
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,640
and Namco had a nice showing here with a Katamari

585
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,359
and dragon Ball sparking zero as well. So you have

586
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,119
banned on Namco, you have EA, you have Capcom starting

587
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,240
the thing off with Monster Hunter Stories three, all these names.

588
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,279
Square Enix ended it with the two games we already

589
00:28:13,279 --> 00:28:15,440
talked about. These are all names you're gonna want in

590
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,240
this on the switch to they're all of the big publishers.

591
00:28:18,319 --> 00:28:20,839
All like four of the biggest names showed up here,

592
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:22,720
and then you have other ones filling You'll be soft

593
00:28:22,839 --> 00:28:24,240
was technically here with Star Wars Outlaw.

594
00:28:24,279 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's five and that does feel like what this

595
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:27,200
was right.

596
00:28:27,279 --> 00:28:30,319
Speaker 2: It feels like this partner direct was about let's get

597
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,559
some stuff from the biggest publishers.

598
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 1: They do require special.

599
00:28:34,519 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 2: Attention, They do need to be have a little bit

600
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,720
of incentives, and the direct is a pretty big.

601
00:28:40,599 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: Incentive because a lot of people do watch them. It

602
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,799
makes these games feel a little bit more special because

603
00:28:44,799 --> 00:28:46,680
they were part of that. So, yeah, that makes sense.

604
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 2: So then as we get to like games comm and

605
00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:52,039
other opportunities for other people to reveal their games, maybe

606
00:28:52,079 --> 00:28:56,759
on their own. For the Nintendo switch to, yeah, well,

607
00:28:56,759 --> 00:28:58,000
there's still gonna be a ton of it could be

608
00:28:58,039 --> 00:28:58,759
a ton of announcement.

609
00:28:58,759 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: It's still could be tons of games that get revealed

610
00:29:01,799 --> 00:29:03,200
with dates for later.

611
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 2: This year, even from third parties and announced in Cologne

612
00:29:07,279 --> 00:29:08,200
in a couple of weeks.

613
00:29:08,599 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: So I'm not too concerned about anything.

614
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 2: And overall, like, as it stands right now, the release

615
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,880
schedule for the switch to is looking just fine to me.

616
00:29:17,079 --> 00:29:19,079
We'll see what twenty twenty six ends up looking like.

617
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,440
So yeah, I'm I'm sitting in a pretty good place

618
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,799
with the switch me too, all right, Uh, let's see here. Oh,

619
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:30,160
there's that the war on the credit card companies after

620
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:34,400
they worked with Yeah, that stuff is ongoing, and it does.

621
00:29:34,519 --> 00:29:37,119
It does sound like it is like beginning to get

622
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,960
organized on the gamer side of things, of people calling

623
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,759
master Card in particular, but also Visa in response to

624
00:29:44,799 --> 00:29:49,160
them threatening to take away credit card processing from Valve

625
00:29:49,319 --> 00:29:52,240
for Steam and from itch dot io for its store.

626
00:29:52,799 --> 00:29:55,759
In response to another group going to those credit card

627
00:29:55,759 --> 00:29:58,480
companies and complaining about them taking money from people who

628
00:29:58,519 --> 00:30:02,799
make what they consider to be portography. So we've covered

629
00:30:02,839 --> 00:30:05,720
the tracks of the story a whole bunch right now.

630
00:30:05,799 --> 00:30:09,880
Where it stands is these these stores are still not

631
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:14,160
allowed to sell adult material while also taking Visa and

632
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,599
MasterCard transactions for anything else, like even if people aren't

633
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,240
using those cards to buy those games like those, the

634
00:30:20,319 --> 00:30:23,000
Visa MasterCard were threatening to take away the purchases for everything.

635
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,039
So ith dot Io, for its part, is saying it's

636
00:30:26,119 --> 00:30:30,759
looking for an alternative way of processing payments that doesn't

637
00:30:30,759 --> 00:30:34,680
go through MasterCard, and it's it's that's going to be challenging.

638
00:30:34,759 --> 00:30:37,519
There is no obvious solution there, but it's it's looking

639
00:30:37,559 --> 00:30:40,839
for an answer now. And in the meantime, I still

640
00:30:40,839 --> 00:30:42,440
got quite a bit of heat from people who are

641
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,839
mad at them for not standing up. But I get

642
00:30:44,839 --> 00:30:47,279
the sense that no one's really able, know, none of

643
00:30:47,319 --> 00:30:49,240
these companies are really able to stand up to the

644
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,519
credit card companies. So it does come down to public outcry.

645
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,920
And you know, there's people who have worked at these

646
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,200
credit card companies or worked at call centers that have

647
00:30:58,359 --> 00:31:03,640
worked with the companies who are saying the current strategy

648
00:31:03,759 --> 00:31:07,400
of people calling up MasterCard and calling up Visa is

649
00:31:08,039 --> 00:31:10,400
the thing you should be doing and is probably working

650
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:13,640
because if you send an email that goes right in

651
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,440
the trash. If you call them, they work with third

652
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:21,079
party vendors to handle their on phone customer service support,

653
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,160
and they have to pay by call, and so there

654
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:28,359
are people dedicated whose entire job is get the volume

655
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,559
of calls to drop, get them down. There's too many,

656
00:31:30,799 --> 00:31:34,519
and so if they're getting, reportedly is around eight thousand

657
00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:37,200
calls a week, that is going to drive them crazy.

658
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,799
It's going to turn into a nightmare for a lot

659
00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:41,720
of people involved. And that means it will likely escalate

660
00:31:41,759 --> 00:31:45,400
pretty quickly because that number is going to lead to costs,

661
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,160
and that cost is going to go on to a

662
00:31:48,799 --> 00:31:51,039
budget sheet which is going to look really bad, and

663
00:31:51,079 --> 00:31:53,039
that's going to keep going up. It's probably the thing

664
00:31:53,039 --> 00:31:56,079
that's going to get the attention. The question is can

665
00:31:56,079 --> 00:31:58,640
they sustain it. That's up in the air.

666
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,279
Speaker 1: How realistic is it to expect these big companies to

667
00:32:02,319 --> 00:32:03,200
respond quickly?

668
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,759
Speaker 2: We'll see that doesn't mean there's going to stop getting

669
00:32:05,759 --> 00:32:08,759
pressure from the other side that is trying to sensor

670
00:32:08,839 --> 00:32:11,720
video games and at the same time, it's like, Okay,

671
00:32:12,039 --> 00:32:15,039
maybe you win this battle, but this could happen again,

672
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,319
and or the people who are going through these credit

673
00:32:17,359 --> 00:32:20,119
card companies could get creative again, so maybe look for

674
00:32:20,519 --> 00:32:25,200
more alternative sources for payment processing. I don't really understand

675
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,119
that world at all, Jason, because it's you just think

676
00:32:28,279 --> 00:32:31,200
like it should be so much easier to give someone money,

677
00:32:31,519 --> 00:32:33,519
and it's why is it just a handful of companies

678
00:32:33,519 --> 00:32:37,880
that can do this, Stripe PayPal and the credit card companies,

679
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,359
and even like it's like I understood it in like

680
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,359
the real world, right, like when you go to a

681
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,319
retailer and you have your credit card there and it's like, okay,

682
00:32:45,319 --> 00:32:47,920
someone has to pay for the payment processing thing. It

683
00:32:48,039 --> 00:32:50,079
just feels like on the Internet it should have been

684
00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:53,119
streamlined to the point where obviously the money is just

685
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,440
digital and we have our digital counsel, we connect them

686
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,680
and I could just give it directly to you. But no,

687
00:32:57,759 --> 00:32:59,519
there's still all these middlemen in the way, and I'm

688
00:32:59,559 --> 00:33:02,039
sure it's a security to a certain point. I think

689
00:33:02,039 --> 00:33:05,720
it's probably also about like our cane regulation. I don't

690
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,559
think we're going to be able to solve those problems.

691
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,480
But at the very least, hopefully people are able to

692
00:33:10,599 --> 00:33:13,200
kind of stand up, shout and get these companies back

693
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:14,759
on track and out of our business.

694
00:33:14,839 --> 00:33:15,039
Speaker 1: Right.

695
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would like to think so eight thousand calls

696
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,039
a week is nothing to sniff at. But I have

697
00:33:20,079 --> 00:33:22,720
already seen reports on Blue Sky and stuff of what

698
00:33:22,759 --> 00:33:25,440
they're trying to do to kind of counteract those. I

699
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:29,799
saw someone be told that someone was told that the

700
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:34,279
calls are going down, so you know, interest is waning,

701
00:33:34,319 --> 00:33:36,839
which is probably just a scare tactic. I don't think

702
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,680
that's actually happening. I did also see two just before

703
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,519
we signed on, if you saw it, Itch has said

704
00:33:44,559 --> 00:33:50,400
that they are reindexing the free adult rated games, plus

705
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,279
the ones that aren't aren't to be charged. So if

706
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,319
and if you are, if you made a free game,

707
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,640
a free porn game that you want back on the service,

708
00:34:00,079 --> 00:34:02,759
you can list it on whatever page that was. So

709
00:34:04,279 --> 00:34:06,160
we may have turned a corner there because there's no

710
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:11,079
payment involved it's free. But as you said, the bigger

711
00:34:11,119 --> 00:34:14,000
issue is why do four or five companies get to

712
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,000
decide what we spend our money on. I think that

713
00:34:18,119 --> 00:34:21,519
is the whole prevailing argument in all this. When we

714
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,480
decided to go cashless as a society, most of us

715
00:34:25,679 --> 00:34:29,079
who are under a certain age that did not come

716
00:34:29,199 --> 00:34:32,440
with the caveat that the people who make the cards

717
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,719
get to tell us how we spend our money. In

718
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,519
a word, fuck that.

719
00:34:38,559 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: Now.

720
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,559
Speaker 3: I'm not someone I've been on itch dot io maybe

721
00:34:41,599 --> 00:34:43,559
five times total in my life, and four of them

722
00:34:43,559 --> 00:34:45,599
were ever since this started, just to see what the

723
00:34:45,639 --> 00:34:48,039
hell's going on. It's not a place I normally go to.

724
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,719
But if I decided I want to, like, if they

725
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,239
did one of their charity bundles and the charity bundle

726
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:54,719
happened to have one of these games in it, and

727
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,880
all of a sudden, I can't support the charity because

728
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:57,639
this game's on it.

729
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 1: That's bullshit.

730
00:34:59,559 --> 00:35:02,559
Speaker 3: That's total bullshit. It is a little bit of this

731
00:35:02,639 --> 00:35:05,440
Project twenty twenty five thing that totally wasn't real, but

732
00:35:05,559 --> 00:35:09,679
of course was right. That's what's happening here. These these

733
00:35:11,079 --> 00:35:15,239
right wing Christo fascists, whatever you want to call them groups,

734
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,199
are now empowered to think that they that their opinion

735
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,840
matters this much because I guess they're not being hurt

736
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,840
enough at home, or they're ashamed, as you like to say,

737
00:35:25,199 --> 00:35:27,079
that they enjoy these things and their shape, they have

738
00:35:27,119 --> 00:35:29,519
to spread their shame to everybody else or whatever the

739
00:35:29,519 --> 00:35:32,440
fuck their problem is. We can't curse on this show, right,

740
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,320
it's late. It's a little late for that, but that's

741
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:41,920
what we do here. Somebody has to but it's how

742
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:46,280
we do it in fillibility. But like I just it

743
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,199
infuriates me to no end that we are now at

744
00:35:50,199 --> 00:35:54,280
a point in society where people who think that they

745
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:59,719
hold moral ground for whatever reason, have the authority to

746
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,559
tell people what to do because of that moral ground.

747
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:08,079
And I was born and raised Roman Catholic, so I

748
00:36:08,159 --> 00:36:12,320
have a bit of that spirituality in my background. I

749
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,000
don't know if you can see it. It's off screen here,

750
00:36:15,079 --> 00:36:20,920
but my grandfather painted himself a version of the Last Supper.

751
00:36:21,159 --> 00:36:24,880
Look at that, and I keep it there because this

752
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,239
is the house he lived in my entire life. He

753
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,800
passed away in two thousand and six, my grandmother passed

754
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,840
in twenty fifteen. We bought the house in twenty eighteen,

755
00:36:33,079 --> 00:36:36,719
so I keep that there intribute of him, and because I,

756
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:41,599
to a certain extent, have faith. But that faith is

757
00:36:41,639 --> 00:36:46,400
always questioned by these far right motherfuckers who think that

758
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:49,280
because they read a book that they know how the

759
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:53,199
world should work, and it just we are not the same.

760
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,760
I do want to say this too, having faith and

761
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,960
doing what they do are not the same.

762
00:36:59,559 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 1: All.

763
00:37:00,079 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 3: If you have faith and you're not like them, you

764
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,320
just read better, You have better reading comprehension.

765
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 2: It's all it ever is, is like that, you we know,

766
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,519
you don't really care about the faith side of things

767
00:37:11,559 --> 00:37:14,360
if you're using it to attack other people. Like it's

768
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,719
very clear to me that it's that simple that if

769
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:21,559
someone is using this as a weapon, or or alternatively

770
00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:24,400
as a shield to protect the patriarchy as a shield

771
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,639
to protect certain institutions that disadvantage certain people, that you're

772
00:37:28,679 --> 00:37:31,119
not actually serious about anything you're actually reading. It is

773
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:34,679
simply a tool that you're wielding. And that's not everybody. There's,

774
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,559
of course, the people that are able to practice their

775
00:37:37,559 --> 00:37:39,760
faith in the way that is authentic, and I've met

776
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:41,280
those people and they're some of the best people I've

777
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:46,360
ever met. But there is a tendency for religion to

778
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,559
be used. I mean, it's almost been designed in a

779
00:37:48,639 --> 00:37:52,039
lot of ways in a lot of cultures to protect men,

780
00:37:52,159 --> 00:37:56,079
to protect and then to punish women, and that's always

781
00:37:56,199 --> 00:37:58,039
that's often what this is it's about punishing women, it's

782
00:37:58,039 --> 00:37:59,199
about punishing queer people.

783
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 1: And I, yeah, I was.

784
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 3: I was raised to think that religion was meant to

785
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,239
be an olive branch, not a cudgel, and these people

786
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,880
are using it as a fucking cudgel. I just would

787
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,480
like to point out that I have been called in

788
00:38:13,559 --> 00:38:14,880
chat woke minati.

789
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: There is.

790
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,079
Speaker 3: I do I do want to, I do wanna? I

791
00:38:20,119 --> 00:38:21,639
do want to get ahead real quick?

792
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:22,039
Speaker 5: Uh.

793
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,639
Speaker 3: There is a super chat here from Harrow for Life

794
00:38:25,639 --> 00:38:28,840
if I may skip ahead to a different and it

795
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,239
says this may not be read, but I would recommend

796
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,360
you read what Collective Shout is and what they do.

797
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,960
As a child abuse survivor, they have been instrumental in

798
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,519
protecting women and in children from abuse. I would like

799
00:38:38,559 --> 00:38:41,400
to say to you, I'm sorry for what happened to you.

800
00:38:41,679 --> 00:38:43,679
I'm glad you are in a place now that you

801
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,320
can join us for this show and put that in there.

802
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:50,400
And that is fine, Okay, I agree with them, but

803
00:38:50,599 --> 00:38:55,280
right now, in this situation, they are overstepping.

804
00:38:56,119 --> 00:38:56,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, and.

805
00:38:58,599 --> 00:39:00,159
Speaker 2: They're poisoning and good will they might have done on

806
00:39:00,199 --> 00:39:05,199
anything else by making their beliefs everyone else's and using

807
00:39:06,079 --> 00:39:10,719
underhanded tactics to accomplish it. But yes, that's not to

808
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,360
say like everything they've ever done is terrible. Just this, Yeah,

809
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,679
that's all we're talking about. It's just context for sure,

810
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:20,920
And yes, and good people can also just be misguided

811
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,159
on these things. I don't think like when we say,

812
00:39:23,199 --> 00:39:26,599
when I say people are using their faith to attack

813
00:39:26,679 --> 00:39:29,440
other people, I don'tly think they're conscious often that that's

814
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:29,960
what they're doing.

815
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 1: They think they're doing the right thing.

816
00:39:31,679 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 2: They think they think they're getting into a place where

817
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,559
it's like, I am, I'm protecting these people from pornography

818
00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:40,159
the way I'm protecting a child from abuse, and they

819
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,760
equivocate those two things and see them as the same

820
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:47,039
and see them as equal goods. And the unintended consequences

821
00:39:47,039 --> 00:39:48,800
here is there are a lot of people who are

822
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:53,480
then standing alongside you and trying to legitimately hurt people

823
00:39:53,519 --> 00:39:56,760
who make queer art and so and and they're like

824
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,440
mad that they have done this and they are trying

825
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,280
to punish them, and it's a kind of abuse of

826
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,840
its own. So yeah, yeah, I'm glad to hear that

827
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:05,400
side of things.

828
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: I will look into that.

829
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,519
Speaker 2: I'm now very interested to hear and see like what

830
00:40:08,559 --> 00:40:10,639
Collective Shot has done in that space.

831
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 1: And again, yes, as Jason said, sorry that happened. And

832
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,679
if they provided you some solace and some protection in

833
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,880
your life, that's awesome. Glad to hear that.

834
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,599
Speaker 3: That's good. But again, it's just this one, this one thing,

835
00:40:21,639 --> 00:40:23,559
this one tunnel vision that they have. It may be

836
00:40:23,639 --> 00:40:27,599
well intentioned, but they may also be influenced, being influenced

837
00:40:27,639 --> 00:40:30,400
by people who don't don't share that intention and I

838
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:31,880
think that is the problem.

839
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 2: Ye all right, Like I said, we're gonna keep talking

840
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:38,400
about that for the next little bit, kind of see

841
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,559
how it develops. It's one little step at a time,

842
00:40:41,639 --> 00:40:44,920
kind of understanding how these companies are barely starting to

843
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:49,039
catch up. I guess the people on the phones at

844
00:40:49,039 --> 00:40:50,800
these call centers are starting to be like, oh, you're

845
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,320
calling about that now, And then occasionally they're also being like, Okay,

846
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,760
we're just gonna hang up on you. So I don't know,

847
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,880
keep up at if you've been calling. If you haven't,

848
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:00,840
go look into it. See if you can lend your

849
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,719
voice to making things a little bit a little bit

850
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:07,280
better and avoiding some unreasonable censorship in games, especially from

851
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,400
a private corporation who shouldn't have a say and what

852
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:10,119
you do with your life.

853
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:11,199
Speaker 3: Correct.

854
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,079
Speaker 2: Okay, we're gonna take a break. We're gonna come back.

855
00:41:14,119 --> 00:41:15,800
Lots of super chats to get to. There are a

856
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:17,559
lot of things to discuss that you guys want to

857
00:41:17,559 --> 00:41:25,320
talk about, So we'll get into all that right after this. Well,

858
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,639
all right, we're back. Jason Vonelli's here. I'm Jeff Grubb.

859
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,239
It's game, Mess decides. Let's do those super chats. Jason,

860
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:33,559
I think you got him in front of you. Let's

861
00:41:33,599 --> 00:41:36,400
go ahead and read out. Yeah, I have some super chats.

862
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:40,000
Let's start with at Big Fresh thirty seven is grub

863
00:41:40,039 --> 00:41:44,000
aware of how is July over yet? You stupid stars

864
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:47,840
has become a meme across every Reddit thread about directs.

865
00:41:48,159 --> 00:41:51,559
Speaker 1: I mean a little bit. People say it to me

866
00:41:51,599 --> 00:41:53,719
every once in a while, or I'll see it here

867
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,079
or there. I guess I didn't know it was like

868
00:41:55,159 --> 00:41:58,480
a meme across every single one. It doesn't surprise me,

869
00:41:58,559 --> 00:42:01,119
Like I don't go and check glor all that often

870
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,679
gaming leaks in rumors these days. It's just you know,

871
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,840
there's always they're always talk about a version of myself

872
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,960
that doesn't exist, that only exists in their heads, and

873
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,599
that's just frustrating to deal with, even if it's good

874
00:42:12,679 --> 00:42:14,360
or bad either way, and so it's like I just

875
00:42:14,519 --> 00:42:15,880
rather sit here in reality.

876
00:42:17,119 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 2: But when I when I won the Leaker of the

877
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,320
Year last year, I realized it was probably mostly because

878
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,039
of that thing. So it must have been a big

879
00:42:25,039 --> 00:42:27,440
deal in that subreddit, and that's a pretty big subreddit,

880
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,880
so I guess that must have now have it's spread

881
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,719
everywhere else because those people that are on that subreddit

882
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:33,480
are everywhere.

883
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,280
Speaker 1: So okay, fun to hear.

884
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:40,679
Speaker 3: That's that's neat, well done, sir, Big Big Threat, Big

885
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,639
Fresh thirty seven back again sent you more info about

886
00:42:43,679 --> 00:42:46,159
sunder Folk in Blue Sky DMS.

887
00:42:46,599 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 2: Thank you, Yes, Big Fresh, I've it's been an insanely

888
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,599
busy like day and a half after that leak and

889
00:42:52,679 --> 00:42:54,639
my damn faucet yesterday, so I will.

890
00:42:54,559 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: Check that out, but I appreciate it.

891
00:42:56,559 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 3: How'd that go, by the way, And again, not as

892
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,559
bad as it have been good or I think we're

893
00:43:02,599 --> 00:43:04,639
gonna be able to fix up most of it ourselves.

894
00:43:05,119 --> 00:43:08,840
Cool cool cool Uh. Simon from Saskatchewan, do you have

895
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,960
any switch to case recommendations?

896
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: Okay, case you're saying case and not grips.

897
00:43:16,679 --> 00:43:20,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, I so I actually really like I think it's

898
00:43:20,559 --> 00:43:24,679
the ginky one for the steam deck actually, because it's

899
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:28,280
like a bag that has a couple of zipper pouches

900
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,079
and one you can like put your keys in all

901
00:43:30,119 --> 00:43:32,719
your stuff, and then there's another one that's really nicely

902
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,000
padded and it also like compresses down to like fit

903
00:43:36,199 --> 00:43:37,400
around whatever you put in there.

904
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:38,599
Speaker 1: And it's made for the steam deck.

905
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 2: But I've been putting my switch to in there and

906
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:41,920
it doesn't feel like the switch too is like slipping

907
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,559
and sliding around or it's too big for the switch too.

908
00:43:45,079 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: So I really like that. The there's a ginky like

909
00:43:48,159 --> 00:43:49,639
fuzzy case with a zipper.

910
00:43:50,119 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 5: Uh.

911
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 2: The one I was sent was a review unit, and

912
00:43:52,599 --> 00:43:55,599
the zipper broke on like day one, so I'm sure

913
00:43:55,599 --> 00:43:57,639
that that's something they've probably fixed, but I'm just not

914
00:43:57,679 --> 00:44:01,320
going to recommend that one. So, uh, it's a steam

915
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,039
deck ginky bag.

916
00:44:03,199 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: Look for that. And if you have questions.

917
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 2: About which one it is, I don't know, dm me

918
00:44:07,039 --> 00:44:09,079
somewhere on discord or something. I'll let you know if

919
00:44:09,079 --> 00:44:10,559
I can find exactly the model.

920
00:44:11,519 --> 00:44:14,519
Speaker 3: So I bought this one the same that I bought

921
00:44:14,559 --> 00:44:18,039
the switch to at best Buy just has next in.

922
00:44:18,159 --> 00:44:19,599
I don't know the brandam. I could look up the

923
00:44:19,599 --> 00:44:21,239
receipt if you want me to. I can recommend it

924
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,679
to you. I've it's been fine, so it nice. Switch

925
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,880
to just fits in right here. I could put it

926
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,079
in joysticks first. That actually has some holes for those

927
00:44:30,119 --> 00:44:32,840
buttons there. If I need to holds ten games, which

928
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,280
is fine, holds the charger up here. It has done

929
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,400
me well on planes, It has done me well on

930
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,159
car trips. I am very happy with that, and it

931
00:44:40,199 --> 00:44:42,280
was convenient they had it right next to the to

932
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,440
the desk there. Best Buy just added it to my

933
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,239
purchase and went on my merry way. I really did

934
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:50,639
appreciate deal. Yeah all right at lex Luddy six zero

935
00:44:50,639 --> 00:44:52,639
three five. Not sure who that is? Nice person. I

936
00:44:52,679 --> 00:44:56,760
bet Grubb should do more podcasts. Lazy Sooba, Oh never mind?

937
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,320
Speaker 2: You know what the fucked up thing LEXI is spite

938
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,639
working NonStop today. I do still feel lazy in a

939
00:45:02,639 --> 00:45:04,760
lot of ways. So yeah, that's right.

940
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 1: I know it's well, what can I do about the

941
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,519
stupid fucking brain I have? Yeah?

942
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 3: Thanks, I say that once a day, I really do. Uh.

943
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,960
Simon from Saskatchewan back again in the unlikely event Dan's

944
00:45:19,039 --> 00:45:22,119
right about Metroid Prime four being delayed. What should Mike's

945
00:45:22,119 --> 00:45:25,599
punishment be for defalling at Dan great word for counter

946
00:45:25,679 --> 00:45:26,119
picking it.

947
00:45:27,039 --> 00:45:29,159
Speaker 1: I think we all laughed at him. We were all

948
00:45:29,199 --> 00:45:31,960
like while he was doing it, we were all quiet

949
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:33,920
looking at each other and be like, is he fucking

950
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,000
serious right now? And then he did it, and then

951
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,960
we all laughed at him. I don't know.

952
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,559
Speaker 2: We probably should all be punished to some degree, but

953
00:45:42,599 --> 00:45:44,760
I'm honestly having to wait that long for Metro Prime

954
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:51,280
forest punishment enough for Mike's Mike specifically, Uh, what's no

955
00:45:51,559 --> 00:45:52,840
Disney for five years?

956
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 1: There we go five years? He works than death for him.

957
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,079
Speaker 3: If he may sit five days, I'll buy you dinner.

958
00:46:04,119 --> 00:46:06,559
Speaker 2: It is funny, like when Mike has gone and he

959
00:46:06,639 --> 00:46:08,480
is at Disney and like Steps are like, well, why

960
00:46:08,519 --> 00:46:10,079
isn't Mike on the show, And I'm always at Disney.

961
00:46:10,159 --> 00:46:13,199
Speaker 1: She's like again every time, it's very funny.

962
00:46:14,039 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 3: It's a bit at this point, I'm it from Saskatchewan

963
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,559
once again. Man, Hello, do you put maple syrup in

964
00:46:20,639 --> 00:46:22,760
the fridge? Real or fake?

965
00:46:24,159 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 1: I do not?

966
00:46:25,639 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 3: I did. It was funny. I grew up with it.

967
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:32,559
In the fridge. Yeah, in my current it's in the pantry.

968
00:46:32,679 --> 00:46:35,159
It's room temperature, and I find it and I used

969
00:46:35,199 --> 00:46:37,280
to love it cold, but now I find it easier

970
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,199
to pour of course in the pantry, but it also

971
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:46,079
gets stickier because it's not you know, it's a cold. Yeah,

972
00:46:46,079 --> 00:46:48,400
it's weird dichotomy, but I do prefer it at room

973
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,119
temperature now, I think, as opposed to cold.

974
00:46:50,519 --> 00:46:52,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I grew up it, grew up with

975
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,119
it in the fridge, and now we keep it in

976
00:46:54,159 --> 00:46:54,880
the pantry. Yeah.

977
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:56,920
Speaker 2: I don't know if that was a decision I made

978
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,559
or steps just started doing it, but I didn't question.

979
00:46:58,599 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, this is this makes sense.

980
00:47:00,599 --> 00:47:02,159
Speaker 3: Oh I know who made it here, stuffed it my

981
00:47:02,199 --> 00:47:04,559
stuff did Yeah, absolutely, Yeah, there you got not even

982
00:47:04,599 --> 00:47:06,760
a question. Now I want to adapt this same question,

983
00:47:07,519 --> 00:47:10,760
peanut butter in the free Peanu and the pant.

984
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: Peanut butter is definitely in the pantry. Yeah, that's always

985
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:14,440
been panty.

986
00:47:14,119 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 3: But same thing. I grew up with it in the

987
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:17,320
fridge and now it's on the fan.

988
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,039
Speaker 1: Never in the fridge for me as a kid. Ye ever, Yeah,

989
00:47:20,079 --> 00:47:22,400
that sounds weird to me actually thinking about it.

990
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,719
Speaker 3: Cold peanut butter is weird, but I didn't mind it.

991
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:25,719
I mean, I ate a lot of it.

992
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: I'm sure, yeah, yeah, yeah right, because like the whole

993
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:32,400
idea of peanut butter is, I wanted to be easy

994
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,440
to spread and I would imagine put in the fridge

995
00:47:34,599 --> 00:47:37,039
like ruins that a little bit was that? Yes or what?

996
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:38,079
Speaker 6: Uh?

997
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,119
Speaker 3: In college I used to get it. I used to

998
00:47:41,119 --> 00:47:42,320
get it out with a spoon. See, it was never

999
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:48,239
a problem at dreadnought six three six Metroid Prime four

1000
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,960
delayed till twenty twenty six. Now I saw this super

1001
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,599
chat come in. You got me, all right, you fucking

1002
00:47:54,639 --> 00:47:56,800
got me. I looked it up and it's not real

1003
00:47:58,079 --> 00:48:01,760
and you well done, well played, very good.

1004
00:48:02,639 --> 00:48:04,639
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you your money back. Dreadon not get

1005
00:48:04,679 --> 00:48:05,119
out of here.

1006
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 3: Not.

1007
00:48:07,079 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: It's not funny.

1008
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 3: It's not funny. It's not funny. What I love that.

1009
00:48:17,639 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 4: In a ban people mood lately you want me to

1010
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:23,039
band the other guy that said the bike games are

1011
00:48:23,119 --> 00:48:25,320
for you and that kind of deal with are you good?

1012
00:48:26,639 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 2: Yeah we got yeah, I'm just a bad mood in general.

1013
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:34,400
You got a question, yeah, I was like, yes, exactly.

1014
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,360
So dealing with the kids, who I cannot ban from

1015
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,760
my human life chat and now I have to come

1016
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,039
here and deal with these kids.

1017
00:48:40,199 --> 00:48:41,519
Speaker 1: So yeah, who I can ban.

1018
00:48:42,199 --> 00:48:44,400
Speaker 3: Any s title screen bad mood and it's.

1019
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:53,599
Speaker 6: Just you bad moods, zombie pouring fantastic with football being

1020
00:48:53,679 --> 00:48:54,360
back kind of.

1021
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 3: I can't believe Grubs said the Lions will never beat

1022
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:00,119
the Eagles and Dan Campbell isn't half the coach, Siriani is.

1023
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,119
That is not an all account, I promise, But yeah,

1024
00:49:03,159 --> 00:49:04,079
we're going to own up to that.

1025
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:06,760
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens. We'll see what happens this year.

1026
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,360
We'll see what happens. Yeah, they have better if they

1027
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:10,320
better fucking.

1028
00:49:10,079 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 1: Win this year. Man, they gotta go to it all.

1029
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 2: Just get to one super Bowl in my life or

1030
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,880
in the life of the entire franchise of the Detroit

1031
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:19,199
Lions in the NFC.

1032
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,280
Speaker 3: Listen to me. If there's one team in the NFL

1033
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,239
that if they beat us in the NFC Championship, I

1034
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:26,920
would still root for, it's Detroit Lions.

1035
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 1: I'm not lying yet. I mean I'm literally no Lion.

1036
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, literally, the only NFC team that's not been to

1037
00:49:34,559 --> 00:49:35,840
a Super Bowl the Detroit Lions.

1038
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:36,199
Speaker 1: My team.

1039
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,519
Speaker 3: Everybody there, it is they they got to get there?

1040
00:49:39,119 --> 00:49:43,039
The Unchartted Wolf ninety four eighty. Hi Jason, Hello, what

1041
00:49:43,199 --> 00:49:45,840
is one game developer you guys would love to interview?

1042
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,599
Non including Peter Malinu. Well, you've scaled the question. Now

1043
00:49:50,079 --> 00:49:51,159
what are we to do?

1044
00:49:51,679 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 2: I can't think of anybody other than Peter Malineu. Now

1045
00:49:54,559 --> 00:49:57,159
I mentioned it a couple of times. I still would

1046
00:49:57,199 --> 00:49:59,079
want to interview him at this point. Lars Winger, first,

1047
00:50:00,119 --> 00:50:01,559
I just like, man, what happened?

1048
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:02,639
Speaker 1: Why were you doing this?

1049
00:50:03,039 --> 00:50:05,280
Speaker 2: And I know most of the answer is the money

1050
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:06,840
was cheap and they could borrow a lot of money

1051
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,719
and just do a bunch of dumb shit, but it's like,

1052
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:10,480
what'd you think was going to happen here?

1053
00:50:10,639 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 1: I just want to get that whole.

1054
00:50:11,639 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 3: Story, my whole life. My answer to this question was

1055
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,280
Reggie Feesa me and then on my now on Permanent

1056
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:22,800
Hiatus podcast Cheese, Steaks and Controllers, he was my episode

1057
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:26,440
episode one hundred guests, So I got that's fantastic.

1058
00:50:26,599 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, right for his book.

1059
00:50:28,039 --> 00:50:30,079
Speaker 3: When his book came out in a nice forty minute chat,

1060
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:34,039
that was awesome. So now I would probably say Kojima,

1061
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,679
I think I would love the chance to sit down

1062
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:42,039
and talk with him or someone of that ilk right,

1063
00:50:42,079 --> 00:50:44,199
because I get to interview a lot of developers, so

1064
00:50:44,199 --> 00:50:47,000
there aren't many left that I would say I've never

1065
00:50:47,039 --> 00:50:49,440
talked to before. Coach of was one of them. Miamoto

1066
00:50:49,519 --> 00:50:51,760
is one of them that sort of like old tier

1067
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,719
of Who've been making games my whole life? Where are

1068
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,639
we we are at at? Joshua prudhom I hope I

1069
00:50:58,679 --> 00:51:01,239
said that right, if that's your actual name. More Jason

1070
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,519
on everything, Please we got you, we got don't worry.

1071
00:51:04,519 --> 00:51:10,920
I bet you say that to all the Jason's j

1072
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,719
LA NEPs coming in with Death Stranding two in the evenings.

1073
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:18,599
Deliveries are back homies. Yes, live that ups life. Get it.

1074
00:51:19,519 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 2: That's the other one other than Expedition thirty three that

1075
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:24,800
I want to get some time on with.

1076
00:51:25,039 --> 00:51:25,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see.

1077
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,039
Speaker 3: Well my problem is me too, but I still have

1078
00:51:28,079 --> 00:51:30,239
to get time with one before I can get time

1079
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:30,599
with two.

1080
00:51:31,199 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1081
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,559
Speaker 2: I played quite a bit of one sign I didn't

1082
00:51:33,599 --> 00:51:36,639
finish it, but you know, this one looks enough like

1083
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:40,000
that game, and they have a here's what happened on

1084
00:51:40,079 --> 00:51:42,880
the first game, you know, last time. When you start

1085
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,559
up that game, there's like a whole section for that,

1086
00:51:44,599 --> 00:51:45,480
So I'm just going to do that.

1087
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:47,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1088
00:51:47,679 --> 00:51:50,280
Speaker 3: At Cody Owen's ninety one thirty seven, Jason, are you

1089
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:55,199
reporting live from Philibildia. Yes, Philipildia. I've got the Philipildia

1090
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,760
fanatic with me, that little ferry that follows me around

1091
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,840
where the entire world map is just one big fucking grid.

1092
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:05,119
We're having a good time. Uh At at Cratics five

1093
00:52:05,199 --> 00:52:08,280
oh five, Jason, what dream musical would you live to be?

1094
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,119
Love to be in or live to be in? They

1095
00:52:10,159 --> 00:52:12,800
both work even if that was a title, grub, But

1096
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,639
what dad movie would be a great movie musical? Grub?

1097
00:52:15,639 --> 00:52:18,199
Speaker 2: I'll start with you, Oh this is this is actually

1098
00:52:18,199 --> 00:52:19,519
easy and it is moneyball.

1099
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,280
Speaker 1: You could sing a lot of songs about like.

1100
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 2: You know about math but no, but really about like

1101
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,480
the way that the math intersects with people's lives and

1102
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:32,800
someone like thinking that they're out of the game and

1103
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,280
this people then this team's selecting you and be like, no,

1104
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:39,159
we really think that you're our guy, and the the

1105
00:52:39,199 --> 00:52:42,519
big like eleven o'clock, send them a home number when

1106
00:52:42,559 --> 00:52:45,400
they you know, come back in that game to go

1107
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:46,760
twenty and oh or whatever it is.

1108
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Moneyball. Moneyball would be a great musical Moneyball.

1109
00:52:50,039 --> 00:52:51,400
That's that's a great answer.

1110
00:52:51,599 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, my dream musical, I think now, uh would

1111
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,920
be lay Miss. I've never been in ley Miss. I've

1112
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:03,599
never been in le Miss. I grew up wanting to

1113
00:53:03,599 --> 00:53:07,159
be Javert, But then I watched Hugh Jackman do Jean

1114
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:10,239
Valjean and the Theater version in like twenty twelve, twenty thirteen,

1115
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,239
whatever that was, and then I was like, oh man,

1116
00:53:12,679 --> 00:53:14,800
that's either one of those are dream roles. I love

1117
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,039
that show. It's my mom's favorite show. That's another reason

1118
00:53:17,079 --> 00:53:19,760
why i'd want to be in it. I just that

1119
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:21,280
ley Miss for sure.

1120
00:53:22,559 --> 00:53:24,079
Speaker 2: Lay Miss, But I would just want to be a

1121
00:53:24,159 --> 00:53:27,119
jellical cat in there and just really throw a wrench

1122
00:53:27,119 --> 00:53:30,159
in the works and ruin everything. Oh oh on purpose.

1123
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,800
I was like you probably, yeah, you were in a

1124
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,800
different way. Yes, yeah, I'm gonna be rum tum tugger,

1125
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,320
just mess. I got plenty of food over here.

1126
00:53:39,599 --> 00:53:42,280
Speaker 3: Rum tum Tuger sounds like something Minatti would have made up.

1127
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, it's an insane thing to call anything,

1128
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,320
but so is everything in the musical Cats.

1129
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:53,199
Speaker 3: So the truth that is the damn truth. At Blake

1130
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,079
Merritt thirty two oh five. Any real insight for lack

1131
00:53:56,119 --> 00:53:58,599
of big First and third party twenty twenty five release

1132
00:53:58,679 --> 00:54:01,639
dates or even twenty twenty six. Games Kit and Christa

1133
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,639
even seemed and I quote a little concerned in their

1134
00:54:04,679 --> 00:54:08,920
direct reaction, thank you, You're welcome. As we talked about

1135
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,280
in the previous segment. No, I think we're at an

1136
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:15,079
age now where companies will either release a game or

1137
00:54:15,119 --> 00:54:17,440
announce the release date three months two to three months in,

1138
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,119
or just announce a game that's coming out six months

1139
00:54:20,119 --> 00:54:22,440
from now, like in the case of Octopath Travelers zero

1140
00:54:22,679 --> 00:54:25,199
earlier today, December release date, first time we heard about

1141
00:54:25,199 --> 00:54:29,880
it today. We don't really have that like Hollow Night

1142
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:34,760
Silk Song thing going on anymore with newer titles. So no,

1143
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,199
I think by the end of the year you'll look

1144
00:54:37,199 --> 00:54:38,920
back at how you felt right now and we're like, man,

1145
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,159
why were they just kind of like edging it co?

1146
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:42,960
Why couldn't they just do this because all these games

1147
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:43,679
came out.

1148
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like, let's get through games, come see what

1149
00:54:46,199 --> 00:54:49,119
happens there. But I'm like, lack of big.

1150
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 2: First and third party twenty twenty five release dates, I

1151
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,400
don't know. We went over those release dates during Game

1152
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:58,599
of Mornings this morning with Lexi and like, October's got

1153
00:54:58,639 --> 00:55:00,000
like ten big games in it.

1154
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. There's a lot I get. It's it

1155
00:55:03,199 --> 00:55:03,440
like a.

1156
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:05,559
Speaker 2: Level above the stuff that's been announced. I guess there's

1157
00:55:05,599 --> 00:55:09,039
not a million things on the level of cyberpunk out there,

1158
00:55:09,639 --> 00:55:12,280
but I'm not. I just the industry doesn't make a

1159
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,119
lot of those anymore, so I guess I'm just not

1160
00:55:14,199 --> 00:55:14,920
expecting them.

1161
00:55:15,519 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 3: You also have to remember Grand Theft Auto six influenced

1162
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,440
a lot of this, so that it's now that it's

1163
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,920
out of twenty twenty five, you may see some teams

1164
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:27,599
pivot and if they can move their projects up into

1165
00:55:27,599 --> 00:55:30,239
twenty twenty five, do it. And maybe that's why they

1166
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:34,280
were holding off on releasing their their launch dates. There's

1167
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,880
a whole mess of things I'm not again, like you said,

1168
00:55:37,199 --> 00:55:39,079
a whole game mess of things. Sorry, that just came

1169
00:55:39,119 --> 00:55:44,079
to me. Games come and then the following Nintendo direct

1170
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:48,360
ye to be uneasy? Yeah, right, Like if it's the

1171
00:55:48,519 --> 00:55:50,760
if it's the Wednesday after Labor Day or even the

1172
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:54,519
week after that, if those two things pass, I'll start

1173
00:55:54,559 --> 00:55:57,840
to be concerned. And then if Tokyo Game Show passes

1174
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,719
two and we're still like where are these games? Then

1175
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,079
I'll be like, oh shit.

1176
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 2: I'm just not There's so many games coming in this

1177
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,239
moment that I'm already kind of like I'm good.

1178
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Speaker 1: I don't share this sentiment overall.

1179
00:56:10,559 --> 00:56:14,599
Speaker 3: Sure, sure, at Rick Grayson, Rick dot Grayson, I think

1180
00:56:14,639 --> 00:56:19,039
sorry with Shoney. With Sony showing a new focus on

1181
00:56:19,119 --> 00:56:23,320
multi console releases, especially multiplayer games, do you see Marvel

1182
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,679
Token coming out for the other consoles?

1183
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 1: Right? I didn't like think about the fact that that's

1184
00:56:29,519 --> 00:56:29,840
like a.

1185
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:35,079
Speaker 3: They are they are are developing, and Sony is publishing.

1186
00:56:36,639 --> 00:56:40,679
I could definitely see see that being a game that

1187
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:42,159
they send to both consoles.

1188
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 2: And I already bought PlayStations right like, they don't need

1189
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:48,079
to sell PlayStations.

1190
00:56:47,519 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: To fighting game fans.

1191
00:56:48,519 --> 00:56:50,679
Speaker 2: I don't think that's so what is the harm of

1192
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:52,679
putting it on Switch even Xbox?

1193
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:53,679
Speaker 1: I think it's zero.

1194
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 2: I think it's literally zero harm to their bottom line

1195
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,119
putting that thing out everywhere eventually, not obviously in that

1196
00:56:59,199 --> 00:56:59,719
day one.

1197
00:57:00,199 --> 00:57:01,960
Speaker 3: And listen, they're going to sell it to the fighting

1198
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:03,840
game fans on PS five because that's where most of

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00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:05,119
them are, and they're going to sell it to the

1200
00:57:05,119 --> 00:57:08,079
fighting game fans like me who own multiple consoles. Who

1201
00:57:08,119 --> 00:57:09,840
is gonna want to buy it on every goddamn thing

1202
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,639
because he can't help himself. You're gonna get multiple purchases

1203
00:57:12,679 --> 00:57:15,440
from people. So yeah, I don't, I don't. It's it

1204
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:20,400
would be a fantastic switch to game. It really would carry.

1205
00:57:19,079 --> 00:57:21,679
Speaker 1: It to almost assuredly.

1206
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:26,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Xbox who knows, but if even is a console?

1207
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,199
But yeah, I do think that they'll eventually put Marveletope

1208
00:57:29,239 --> 00:57:32,679
on other places, maybe like a year of exclusivity, six

1209
00:57:32,719 --> 00:57:35,719
months something like that, but who knows. Yep, Hey Jeff,

1210
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:39,599
and might not be Manati, Jeff, have you heard anything?

1211
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:42,400
Wait m Obama five seven eighty two, I did not

1212
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,119
say your name. I'm there. It is, Hey Jeff, and

1213
00:57:45,239 --> 00:57:48,760
might not be Minati Jeff. Have you heard anything else

1214
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:52,519
about what Creative Assembly is working on? Still holding out

1215
00:57:52,559 --> 00:57:58,800
hope for Total Warhammer forty K Long Live Philipildia, go beards.

1216
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, God, let me double check real quick. I'm gonna

1217
00:58:02,119 --> 00:58:03,920
just do a quick Google search to see if this

1218
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:07,039
has popped up anywhere. I think it has. Let's see here,

1219
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:14,679
Creative Assembly and blah blah. Yeah, This is what I

1220
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:16,760
heard a couple of years back that Total Wars working

1221
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:20,800
on a Star Wars strategy game, and then that rumor

1222
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:25,000
did pop up somewhere after I heard that, So I

1223
00:58:25,039 --> 00:58:26,000
think that's what they're doing.

1224
00:58:26,159 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 2: Have I heard anything since then? No, I haven't been looking.

1225
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,360
I haven't really dug around they were. That wasn't seem

1226
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,920
doing Hyenas, right, and Hyena's got canceled. I bet they're doing.

1227
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:36,199
Speaker 1: I bet they're doing follow ups.

1228
00:58:36,039 --> 00:58:40,079
Speaker 2: To all like their main Total war series, probably Yes Warhammer,

1229
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:44,320
Total war Hammer and then and then this Star Wars game,

1230
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,480
which I think could be a really good fit that

1231
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:49,840
that seems like the kind of thing where that's a

1232
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:53,480
good match of IP and gameplay style, where it's like

1233
00:58:53,679 --> 00:58:57,320
that game can probably sell significantly more with an attachment

1234
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,800
to Star Wars without the expectation that it needs to

1235
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:01,039
sell to every.

1236
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: Star Wars fan, because of course it's not. It's a

1237
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:04,519
strategy game, right.

1238
00:59:05,159 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 3: I feel like people who played Total war may have

1239
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,639
already played it with Duel the Fates blaring in the

1240
00:59:09,639 --> 00:59:10,719
background anyway, So.

1241
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, it seems like a perfect fit. And that's right.

1242
00:59:13,679 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 2: They're also making Alien Isolation too, although that's like years

1243
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,039
and years away, right, they that relatively recently?

1244
00:59:19,079 --> 00:59:21,559
Speaker 4: I forgot to by the way, By the way, the

1245
00:59:21,599 --> 00:59:25,320
Total Warhammer forty k. This station makes sense because we

1246
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,320
haven't got one of those ever.

1247
00:59:27,559 --> 00:59:32,159
Speaker 1: Right, and they did Total war Warhammer Regular Warmer regular.

1248
00:59:32,039 --> 00:59:34,679
Speaker 4: Yes, old time in Warhammer, and they haven't done for

1249
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:36,079
it will be pretty cool.

1250
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:40,039
Speaker 3: What about two through thirty nine thousand?

1251
00:59:42,159 --> 00:59:45,719
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ban him all right, damn it.

1252
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:47,559
Speaker 4: You got to read a bunch of books for this one.

1253
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:53,239
Speaker 3: I know, I know that joke is as low hanging fruit.

1254
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,280
My brother's huge and the Warhammer, so I know I

1255
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:56,480
knew what I was getting in through there.

1256
00:59:57,119 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 4: Well, forty k is huge. That's why it would be

1257
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:01,199
cool if they do one of those.

1258
01:00:03,159 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: I agree with you that it makes a ton of

1259
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:05,159
sense for sure.

1260
01:00:05,159 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 3: Another perfect fit.

1261
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:07,639
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1262
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:13,119
Speaker 3: At Willow Davis, she grubbed menati till I mess thank

1263
01:00:13,159 --> 01:00:15,679
you for your contribution to this wonderful show, thanks for

1264
01:00:15,679 --> 01:00:19,239
your money. At m Obama five seven eight two, she

1265
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:25,119
mess on my grub till I'm minati. I need to

1266
01:00:25,159 --> 01:00:28,079
know the sound effect that is menatiing. I need to

1267
01:00:28,079 --> 01:00:30,840
know that sound effect. Quick?

1268
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:31,599
Speaker 1: Do you have anything in there?

1269
01:00:34,199 --> 01:00:39,079
Speaker 4: Take your time one.

1270
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:46,639
Speaker 3: Thank you, Holy Ship. That's it. Oh that boy Jerry

1271
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:50,159
checking again really enjoyed Lexi at all, sub began entertaining

1272
01:00:50,199 --> 01:00:55,840
their Hella excellent, Finelli is superb to Oh Jerry, that's.

1273
01:00:56,440 --> 01:00:58,199
Speaker 1: It was a fun talkover. It was a really good time.

1274
01:00:58,599 --> 01:01:01,280
I really could you believe that that was like less

1275
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:02,559
than a year ago that we did that.

1276
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,199
Speaker 2: I cannot believe that direct was this morning. Actually, I'm

1277
01:01:05,199 --> 01:01:06,320
going my mind a little bit.

1278
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was more than twelve hours ago at this point,

1279
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:13,480
and that shit. Uh so I actually read this one.

1280
01:01:13,519 --> 01:01:14,679
I'm going to read it again just to put it

1281
01:01:14,679 --> 01:01:16,480
in superchats, and they had two more than I'm going

1282
01:01:16,559 --> 01:01:18,159
to combine into one big super chat.

1283
01:01:18,239 --> 01:01:20,719
Speaker 1: Family's do it at Harrow for Life.

1284
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:22,559
Speaker 3: This may not be read, but I would recommend you

1285
01:01:22,599 --> 01:01:25,440
read what Collective Shout is and what they do. As

1286
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,320
a child abuse survivor, they have an instrumental in protecting

1287
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:32,239
women and children from abuse. They petitioned Steam and Itch

1288
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,960
to remove rape and incest games and do not have

1289
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,159
an issue with porn games as long as it's not

1290
01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:40,360
does not involve abuse. Just want to say that I

1291
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,800
love you guys. I don't disagree with that.

1292
01:01:44,559 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 1: I mean, but the proof is in the pudding. Though.

1293
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,679
Speaker 2: We know what happened here because there was that one

1294
01:01:49,719 --> 01:01:53,239
game I can't remember its name that that was the

1295
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:58,239
offending rape game, and the Itch removed that kind of

1296
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:02,000
right away, and Valve eventually removed it.

1297
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:03,199
Speaker 1: It took them a little bit longer.

1298
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:06,039
Speaker 2: They do have a much more laisse faire attitude about

1299
01:02:06,039 --> 01:02:08,239
that sort of thing, which I think is always worth

1300
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:10,400
like holding their feet to the fire on that.

1301
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:12,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, you should let everything in. And then

1302
01:02:12,719 --> 01:02:13,079
I see a.

1303
01:02:13,079 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 2: Game like that and like, well not everything obviously, So

1304
01:02:17,719 --> 01:02:19,719
that game wasn't on there when all this stuff actually

1305
01:02:19,719 --> 01:02:20,559
started going down.

1306
01:02:22,199 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 1: I think that if.

1307
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 2: They already achieved the goal of having that game removed,

1308
01:02:28,119 --> 01:02:30,679
that specific game, and yet they still went for it,

1309
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:32,639
and now all these other games are getting caught in

1310
01:02:32,639 --> 01:02:37,320
the crossfire. Well, I mean, you're the effect is what matters,

1311
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:39,559
not the intent. I mean, that's what we always try

1312
01:02:39,559 --> 01:02:43,159
to teach people, right, It's like, what the consequences of

1313
01:02:43,199 --> 01:02:46,199
your action are? What is what's actually important, not the

1314
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:49,800
good intentions. So the fact that people who are trying

1315
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,800
to make a livelihood from making smut, like we can

1316
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:55,280
call it what it is that's fine, but they deserve

1317
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:57,960
to make a living too, and selling their games to

1318
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,239
consenting adults, and if you want to try to prove

1319
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,960
the protections that children have, like I said, I was

1320
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:07,159
willing to, like, let's have a little bit of a conversation,

1321
01:03:07,199 --> 01:03:10,519
but maybe we shouldn't let people buy eighteen rated games

1322
01:03:10,719 --> 01:03:12,440
with gift cards that they could buy with cash that

1323
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:14,199
they go and get from CBS as a kid or

1324
01:03:14,199 --> 01:03:17,400
something like that. Yeah, I think maybe putting that protection

1325
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:19,159
in place makes sense. But you have to be eighteen

1326
01:03:19,159 --> 01:03:20,719
to have a credit card, so you have to either

1327
01:03:20,719 --> 01:03:22,400
have a parent's permission or you have to have a

1328
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:24,840
credit card yourself. And I just think the credit card

1329
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:28,440
company stepping in is still a line far too far

1330
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:30,320
across what is acceptable here.

1331
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:34,599
Speaker 1: But I agree, I still really appreciate that this insight though,

1332
01:03:34,719 --> 01:03:37,400
like hearing this is very helpful. Yes, thank you, Harry.

1333
01:03:37,199 --> 01:03:40,199
Speaker 3: Yea because as they're an Australian group, so we don't

1334
01:03:40,199 --> 01:03:43,199
know much about them, and if they are doing good work,

1335
01:03:43,239 --> 01:03:46,599
I would like to know more about that than this are.

1336
01:03:46,639 --> 01:03:48,800
If there is good work being done they I would

1337
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:51,280
like to give them their flowers instead of just throw

1338
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:53,599
these starts at them. Because here they're wrong.

1339
01:03:53,679 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 1: They just are.

1340
01:03:56,360 --> 01:04:00,000
Speaker 3: At jedmis for I love the direct, but I'm also

1341
01:04:00,039 --> 01:04:02,440
a big fan of Octopath and h D two D,

1342
01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,920
so I was well served. Plus in Japan they announced

1343
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:09,159
Dragon Quest three is getting a free switch to patch,

1344
01:04:09,199 --> 01:04:11,760
which is out now. Plus they also had thank you

1345
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:13,360
for the super chat. They also had a trailer for

1346
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:16,840
one and two HD and I have a I have

1347
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:19,360
a complaint. Why the fuck are you showing different things

1348
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:20,159
to different regions?

1349
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:23,519
Speaker 1: I hate that shit. They've done that always. It's so weird.

1350
01:04:23,559 --> 01:04:26,719
I don't know how they decide. Yeah, and they do it.

1351
01:04:26,679 --> 01:04:29,079
Speaker 3: In and sometimes they show the same things but in

1352
01:04:29,079 --> 01:04:33,000
different orders. The classic one Marvel versus Capcom Arcade collection

1353
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:36,199
was in the Japan Direct before it was in the

1354
01:04:36,239 --> 01:04:38,719
American direct, so I had that shit spoiled for me.

1355
01:04:39,199 --> 01:04:41,920
I'm like, come on, man, what are we doing here?

1356
01:04:42,239 --> 01:04:44,480
Just put all the same stuff in. I mean, there's

1357
01:04:44,719 --> 01:04:47,760
there's Japan region specific games, like I don't expect to

1358
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:51,320
see a Chowanniki game, let's say in an American direct.

1359
01:04:51,559 --> 01:04:55,280
That's never gonna happen, But like, come on, help help

1360
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:58,480
us out here with games that are more universal, please,

1361
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:00,360
I don't.

1362
01:05:00,199 --> 01:05:04,039
Speaker 2: Know if so, da boy, Jerry's got Apparently he coded

1363
01:05:04,039 --> 01:05:07,679
a message in his super chat says, please read the

1364
01:05:07,719 --> 01:05:11,480
beginning of each word and is it are we the

1365
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:12,039
first letter?

1366
01:05:12,039 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 1: Do you mean?

1367
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 2: Because it's r E L E A S E so

1368
01:05:15,599 --> 01:05:20,639
release t h G the.

1369
01:05:19,199 --> 01:05:35,159
Speaker 1: L I S to release the release the list? All right? Cool?

1370
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 3: Good ship, come ship?

1371
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:41,159
Speaker 1: What up? That's good? That was fine. This is the

1372
01:05:41,559 --> 01:05:41,920
L I S.

1373
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:43,920
Speaker 2: T were like kind of a little bit more scrambled

1374
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:45,800
than the other ones, so it was a little bit

1375
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,599
more difficult, and that just actually made the unintentional comedic

1376
01:05:48,639 --> 01:05:49,719
timing of that very good.

1377
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 1: That boy so.

1378
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 3: Because I almost said release the fists and I'm.

1379
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:54,159
Speaker 1: Like, what the fuck does that mean? But the L

1380
01:05:56,679 --> 01:05:57,320
we got there.

1381
01:05:58,079 --> 01:05:59,719
Speaker 3: I don't know if this is Zaki Zaki R A

1382
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:03,599
c AC, but I'm want to say, Zachy Zaki play

1383
01:06:03,679 --> 01:06:07,440
Metal Gear Solid two. I already did. I did it,

1384
01:06:06,119 --> 01:06:10,599
and oh shit, I'm gonna ban you from your own

1385
01:06:10,679 --> 01:06:13,599
I know. I love Metal Gear Solid one so much.

1386
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 2: And then I did the thing I always do, where

1387
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,360
when the first game and the second game have different characters,

1388
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:20,079
I become a little bit less interested and I put

1389
01:06:20,119 --> 01:06:21,360
it to the side. I did that with you in

1390
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:25,599
like Donkey Kong Country two and right. Yeah, So I

1391
01:06:25,639 --> 01:06:28,159
played don Your Country Donkey Kunk Country two recently and

1392
01:06:28,239 --> 01:06:30,639
I loved it. But I always knew I would like

1393
01:06:31,119 --> 01:06:33,480
Meddle Gear Solid two. I I've played metal Gear Solid

1394
01:06:33,519 --> 01:06:35,920
one and I played metal Gear Solid five, and I

1395
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:39,239
love both of those. So eventually I'm gonna find some

1396
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:41,760
way to like I think just stream through playing all

1397
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:43,840
of them on my own channel, but it's hard to

1398
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:44,079
find that.

1399
01:06:44,199 --> 01:06:48,199
Speaker 3: I'm gonna need you to stream Delta. But yes, three favor.

1400
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:50,559
Speaker 1: That's the and then that probably is the right right

1401
01:06:50,599 --> 01:06:52,280
move here is to get through two right now and

1402
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:54,480
then play Delta. Okay, it might make it happen.

1403
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,519
Speaker 3: So funny story about two Uh. I first finished it

1404
01:06:57,559 --> 01:06:59,519
and I was in high school. I played it when

1405
01:06:59,519 --> 01:07:04,079
it came out or just after it came out, and

1406
01:07:03,679 --> 01:07:06,440
I loaded up my save at nine o'clock on a

1407
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:09,280
Sunday night in the summertime, I was at the Harrier Fight.

1408
01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:11,039
For those who have played it, I was at the

1409
01:07:11,039 --> 01:07:14,000
fight against the Harrier. I then finished the game that

1410
01:07:14,159 --> 01:07:16,679
evening right, so I was up till three or four

1411
01:07:16,679 --> 01:07:18,679
in the morning. I just finished the game outright. I

1412
01:07:18,719 --> 01:07:21,840
wanted to be done it without spoiling anything. There's a

1413
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:24,239
point in that game where things go nuts and your

1414
01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:27,480
codec calls go weird and your screen goes nuts. I

1415
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:31,039
thought I was genuinely hallucinating because at one point this

1416
01:07:31,119 --> 01:07:32,840
CODEC call that tells you to turn the game off

1417
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:35,800
because it's late, and it was actually late for me,

1418
01:07:36,199 --> 01:07:38,079
and I just about jumped out of my skin, but

1419
01:07:38,119 --> 01:07:40,800
I pressed on. It's one of the defining moments of

1420
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:43,559
my gaming life. You should play out of your STYLI two.

1421
01:07:43,679 --> 01:07:46,519
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make it happen. I'll do it that course.

1422
01:07:46,559 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 4: I love it if you play the first one too,

1423
01:07:48,039 --> 01:07:50,960
because in the first one that psychoment is kind of

1424
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:54,360
Fox where you're saving stuff. So like, if you know that,

1425
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:59,039
it lands like realism. Did like this motherfuckers know something

1426
01:07:59,039 --> 01:08:00,559
about me going on.

1427
01:08:00,599 --> 01:08:05,719
Speaker 1: So yeah, that was such a good moment at brian

1428
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:07,840
x one.

1429
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:11,639
Speaker 3: It's zero zero zero zero x one thoughts on Stanley

1430
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:14,840
Powerable Ultra Deluxe version. Replayed it recently and it might

1431
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:17,399
be one of my favorite games. New content is especially

1432
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,119
great blind Spot for me, so go for it. Grub.

1433
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:24,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've played a little bit of this, but I

1434
01:08:24,399 --> 01:08:26,920
watched I think it was Voidberger did a video on

1435
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:28,840
this on Giant Bomb, and I watched that and it

1436
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:31,199
really won me over and I was.

1437
01:08:31,159 --> 01:08:35,159
Speaker 2: Like, I should play this, So yeah, it's it seems

1438
01:08:35,319 --> 01:08:37,840
like the way that it commentates on itself and on

1439
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:42,359
games is quite impressive. So yeah, definitely people should check

1440
01:08:42,359 --> 01:08:42,680
that out.

1441
01:08:43,279 --> 01:08:51,279
Speaker 3: Absolutely. At let's say sixty three, I am so sorry, Grubb. J.

1442
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:56,000
Blow said Witness slash Island was partly inspired by myst

1443
01:08:56,479 --> 01:08:59,920
in the Keep by an overturned ashcart is a hit

1444
01:09:00,359 --> 01:09:03,640
Missed falling Man logo can't wait for ribbon.

1445
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:04,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1446
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 2: I mean even at the time, having never played Missed,

1447
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,000
I knew I could just tell the Witness was one

1448
01:09:10,039 --> 01:09:12,560
of those one of those games inspired by that. I

1449
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:16,439
think Witness is my my most the largest gap between

1450
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:18,680
my appreciation for the game and my appreciation for the

1451
01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:19,239
man kit.

1452
01:09:20,760 --> 01:09:22,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it's just a cat.

1453
01:09:23,359 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 3: Yes, I knew I had heard before that. Jonathan Blow

1454
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:29,199
was inspired was partly inspired by Missed. I am also

1455
01:09:29,239 --> 01:09:32,520
a Patrion supporter of The Venerable h Bomber guy Uh

1456
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:35,159
and if you have a Patreon subscription to him, he

1457
01:09:35,159 --> 01:09:37,640
has an exclusive video on his Patreon where it's an

1458
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:41,960
hour and forty minute uh Missed review in his style,

1459
01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:45,680
and he talks about how Jonathan Blow was partially inspired

1460
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:48,399
by Missed and how that just proves that he didn't

1461
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:50,920
understand Missed because he got the wrong.

1462
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:51,680
Speaker 1: Impression from it.

1463
01:09:52,159 --> 01:09:55,079
Speaker 3: Uh So, I'll I will if I have that link

1464
01:09:55,159 --> 01:09:57,800
laying around here somewhere, if if you want to watch it, and.

1465
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:00,680
Speaker 1: I love you. Yeah, this part of them as well,

1466
01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:01,439
I've never watched that.

1467
01:10:02,159 --> 01:10:05,279
Speaker 2: I do wonder like what impression people get from the Witness,

1468
01:10:05,279 --> 01:10:07,279
because people played the Witness and I think I saw

1469
01:10:07,319 --> 01:10:09,920
a couple of videos early on and assume that was

1470
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:11,159
the thesis of the game, and.

1471
01:10:11,119 --> 01:10:13,720
Speaker 1: It's it's not. But whatever, I'm not here to protect

1472
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:15,760
or defend Jonathan Blow. Whatever, you can go to hell.

1473
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:16,600
Sure sure sure?

1474
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:21,239
Speaker 3: Uh At Cody Bishop seven five six new RoboCop DLC

1475
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:24,920
is Goat. I loved Rogue City. I thought it was

1476
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:26,680
a guilty pleasure games, and I have a meaning to

1477
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:28,199
get to the DLC, So I'm glad to hear that.

1478
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:30,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, this made me want to go back and like

1479
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:31,560
really play Rogue City.

1480
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 2: When that game was out, I was like on vacation

1481
01:10:33,560 --> 01:10:35,520
and everyone else that John bonm was covering some I'll

1482
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:37,640
handle some other stuff and I'll go back. Never did

1483
01:10:38,079 --> 01:10:40,000
this DLC happened. He's like, I should go back to

1484
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:42,560
the original game. And then I heard the DLC is okay,

1485
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:44,520
But some people seem to like love it. So if

1486
01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:47,000
I'm super into it now I have even more to play.

1487
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:47,640
Speaker 1: Now.

1488
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 3: I believe the DLC is called unfinished Business, which just fits.

1489
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:53,680
It fits you look at that good stuff, uh at

1490
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:57,279
Cody Bishop seven five six back again. So we should

1491
01:10:57,319 --> 01:11:01,479
remove all uncomfortable scenes from movies. This reminds me of fundamental,

1492
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:06,840
fundamental Christian groups trying to ban LGBTQ movies in the seventies. Yes,

1493
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:09,039
it is very much that it is a moral panic. Yes,

1494
01:11:09,079 --> 01:11:11,920
this is another a moral panic. It is a moral panic.

1495
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:15,039
It's the same guy who got in the eighties. In

1496
01:11:15,119 --> 01:11:17,399
late eighties made it so that radio and television wasn't

1497
01:11:17,399 --> 01:11:19,319
protected by the FCC because he heard something on the

1498
01:11:19,399 --> 01:11:20,680
radio that he didn't like, and he happened to be

1499
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:23,279
a pastor in Mississippi with a big fucking mouth, and

1500
01:11:23,359 --> 01:11:25,600
for some reason, the FCC listened to him, even though

1501
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:27,600
he could have just as easily turned back to his

1502
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:31,079
Christian rock station or turn the damn thing off. But nope,

1503
01:11:31,119 --> 01:11:32,720
that's what he did, and we're just right in the

1504
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:37,399
same goddamn place we always are. It's very frustrating. I

1505
01:11:37,439 --> 01:11:41,079
wish these people would get a goddamn life anyway. Blake

1506
01:11:41,119 --> 01:11:43,760
Merritt thirty two oh five back again, should have specified

1507
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:47,359
my release date super chat was for S two switch

1508
01:11:47,399 --> 01:11:50,000
to Switch three. Yeah, I have way too much to

1509
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,600
play on PS five. I just want my next switch

1510
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:55,520
to games to look forward to MP four Metro Prime

1511
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:57,880
four with the eyes emoji. Yes, that is the one.

1512
01:11:58,319 --> 01:11:59,600
Speaker 1: That's I mean, that's the big question.

1513
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:02,119
Speaker 2: I think that's the reason people have some anxiety around

1514
01:12:02,119 --> 01:12:03,920
the Switch to is because what's going on with Metro

1515
01:12:04,039 --> 01:12:06,600
Prime before. And I think the reality is that game's

1516
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:09,000
just coming out in November or December, so Nintendo's doesn't

1517
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,880
feel an urgency to announce the release date. We all

1518
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:13,960
feel it, but Nintendo's like God, so it's not coming

1519
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:14,640
out too much later.

1520
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:17,760
Speaker 1: Chill out, And I think that's all there is to it. Really.

1521
01:12:18,479 --> 01:12:21,199
Speaker 3: I will put a prediction right now, right in this

1522
01:12:21,319 --> 01:12:24,279
very minute, that Metroid Prime four will release for the

1523
01:12:24,359 --> 01:12:28,600
Nintendo Switch to on the twenty first of November. It

1524
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:30,840
is the Friday before Black Friday, and that's where they

1525
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:32,840
like to release their biggest games of the year. It's

1526
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:35,800
where they've released Mario games traditionally. I think that's where

1527
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:36,199
it's going to.

1528
01:12:36,199 --> 01:12:39,359
Speaker 2: Be, I say November twentieth, because Nintendo releases games on

1529
01:12:39,399 --> 01:12:40,079
Thursdays now.

1530
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:42,159
Speaker 3: Or you just like to play the price is right

1531
01:12:42,199 --> 01:12:43,560
and want up me that too?

1532
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:46,079
Speaker 1: Say yeah, exactly, you go over, you automatically lose.

1533
01:12:46,159 --> 01:12:50,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, you lose at Marcus zero seven to seven. A

1534
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:53,600
hell yeah, Jeff, play MGS two P.

1535
01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 1: You know there is is that you said that correctly

1536
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,760
because you said p nest because there was a little

1537
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:05,600
break in the microne, just like there is in the

1538
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:09,399
super chat. So that's pretty pretty impressive. That just shows

1539
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:11,000
your theater skills there a little bit there.

1540
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 3: It is, Mike. Admittedly the microphone broke when the brim

1541
01:13:14,039 --> 01:13:15,640
of my hat hit the.

1542
01:13:17,119 --> 01:13:20,239
Speaker 2: Even even more perfect. That's serendipity. Uh, I'm going to

1543
01:13:20,279 --> 01:13:20,800
play this game.

1544
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:23,680
Speaker 1: I've always intended to play this game, so I will.

1545
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 3: Uh Dan h four dot four four seven one Kitchen

1546
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:28,720
Dan is happy to see the rise of Jason Finelli.

1547
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:29,720
Go birds.

1548
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 1: Yes, hey, shot, Kitchen Dan, that's a good name.

1549
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:36,760
Speaker 3: I like that a lot more often I hear I

1550
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:39,399
want to hear what the stories of Kitchen Dan Kitchen

1551
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:43,920
Dan uh at Michael R. O'Leary, just throwing it out

1552
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:45,840
there that Jason is a great hang in an uber

1553
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:48,439
when you're leaving the GV house and headed to the

1554
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:51,199
j W. That is great to hear that I did

1555
01:13:51,199 --> 01:13:54,399
not embarrass myself or fall asleep. Those things have happened

1556
01:13:54,399 --> 01:13:58,239
more than once at Chuck Toowski, some stranger checking in

1557
01:13:58,399 --> 01:14:01,279
on in the super last year sat here the penis

1558
01:14:01,319 --> 01:14:04,239
P three and one s messages are my fault. I'm

1559
01:14:04,279 --> 01:14:08,479
sorry for leaving this mushroom stamp on your venerable podcast.

1560
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:09,239
Speaker 1: I wouldn't.

1561
01:14:09,239 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 3: I don't think they would have it any other way.

1562
01:14:11,039 --> 01:14:13,840
I certainly wouldn't as a guest of the show. And Chuck,

1563
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:15,720
if that's your legacy, well.

1564
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:18,119
Speaker 2: Done, mate, Yeah, I mean it's It's definitely one of

1565
01:14:18,199 --> 01:14:20,760
the longer lasting community jokes.

1566
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 1: And we won't go away, so I'll accept it.

1567
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 2: Looks like we got one more super chat and we'll

1568
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:27,840
do this one and then we'll take a break.

1569
01:14:28,279 --> 01:14:31,760
Speaker 3: Oh at JD Dash cav Finelle versus back Lare and

1570
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:34,680
Will of Fortune, who wins that's such a good idea.

1571
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,039
Speaker 1: Actually, like to play one of the video game Wheel

1572
01:14:37,039 --> 01:14:38,720
of Fortunes and make back of our play.

1573
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:43,119
Speaker 3: Okay, get this work back oflre Will Fortune Family Edition

1574
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:46,000
and my mom will verify this wille Fortune Family Edition

1575
01:14:46,039 --> 01:14:47,680
or anys taught me to read.

1576
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:51,800
Speaker 2: Really, that's awesome. I one thing, one thing I want

1577
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:56,119
to do on John Baum has always been surprise competition.

1578
01:14:56,399 --> 01:15:00,319
Like just be like, hey, Backlar, Dan, Mike, to see

1579
01:15:00,319 --> 01:15:01,800
you guys in discord real quick. You guys have like

1580
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:03,960
an hour and like not tell them that suddenly they're

1581
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:05,439
on a stream and they're playing a game and they

1582
01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:08,279
have to compete against one another. I want to do that,

1583
01:15:08,479 --> 01:15:10,079
but we're all very busy right now, so it's been

1584
01:15:10,119 --> 01:15:12,239
hard to set up. But maybe the first one should

1585
01:15:12,319 --> 01:15:15,119
be you're waiting for them as the Wheel of Fortune

1586
01:15:15,199 --> 01:15:17,079
champion and they all have to take you down, and

1587
01:15:17,119 --> 01:15:19,119
this could be back of Our's moment to prove himself

1588
01:15:19,279 --> 01:15:21,560
better than the rest of these Will Fortune slubs.

1589
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:22,119
Speaker 1: Schlubs.

1590
01:15:22,359 --> 01:15:25,600
Speaker 3: You know you know you call that segment. Please tell

1591
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:27,279
me what flash bomb?

1592
01:15:28,119 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do it. Let's make it. Okay, I'll get

1593
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:34,319
to work. Everybody I got, you know, I'm gonna do

1594
01:15:34,399 --> 01:15:36,960
and I'm gonna make it real, going to my trello.

1595
01:15:37,279 --> 01:15:43,239
There we go, and then out here I'm gonna write

1596
01:15:43,279 --> 01:15:47,520
down I'm a fancy man and a cool guy.

1597
01:15:48,039 --> 01:15:53,279
Speaker 1: All right, there we go. All right, I go for it.

1598
01:15:53,439 --> 01:15:55,239
Thank you very much. I appreciate it.

1599
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:57,399
Speaker 2: We're going to take a break. When we come back,

1600
01:15:57,399 --> 01:15:59,760
we are going to do our our special segment of

1601
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:06,640
the Mount Rushmore of video game Ballers, video game athletes

1602
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:10,319
in any form, the most famous, most important, most emblematic

1603
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:13,359
dudes and ladies of that concept.

1604
01:16:13,399 --> 01:16:15,399
Speaker 1: We'll come back and talk about that right after this.

1605
01:16:18,079 --> 01:16:19,000
All right, we're back.

1606
01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:23,159
Speaker 2: We are gonna do our special segment. It is the

1607
01:16:23,199 --> 01:16:27,159
Mount Rushmore video Game Ballers. As I explained Jason Finelli,

1608
01:16:27,199 --> 01:16:29,439
I figured, like, hey, we like sports this and I

1609
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:31,640
like sports video games. I figured you probably played enough

1610
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:33,920
sports video games also, like at a certain point the

1611
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:36,159
people that are going to go up on the Mount

1612
01:16:36,239 --> 01:16:39,880
Rushmore of video game ballers, like most people have played

1613
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:42,600
the games that contain those characters. Like there's a lot

1614
01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:45,079
of just obvious ones, I think, but I'm ready to

1615
01:16:45,119 --> 01:16:47,680
talk this out and see if there's any surprises. Do

1616
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:49,000
you think that do you want to like lay out

1617
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:52,199
any ideas of like what this should mean. Do you

1618
01:16:52,239 --> 01:16:54,760
have like in your heart of hearts, like who, like

1619
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:57,239
what kind of character should be on the Mount Rushmore

1620
01:16:57,239 --> 01:16:58,239
of video game ballers.

1621
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:00,800
Speaker 3: So I think there's two ways you can go about this.

1622
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:05,800
You can go with famous real world athletes who tore

1623
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:09,119
shit up in the video games they were in yep.

1624
01:17:09,159 --> 01:17:12,399
And I think you can go with original video game

1625
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:16,359
characters who are also playing a certain sport, like if

1626
01:17:16,399 --> 01:17:19,720
when we get to the podcast producers, the very first

1627
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:24,079
thing that came up, I think is a brilliant selection.

1628
01:17:24,319 --> 01:17:26,279
I don't know if it's going to make the Mount Rushmore,

1629
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:29,239
but I think saying Titius from Final Fantasy X, who

1630
01:17:29,279 --> 01:17:32,640
played blitz ball that time, people wouldn't think that, But

1631
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:36,720
it's a great idea because blitz ball is a very

1632
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:39,840
cool part of that game, a good side quest side

1633
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:43,359
game in that game. And I think that that's so

1634
01:17:43,439 --> 01:17:45,479
we can be of two ways here. I don't think

1635
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:47,279
we're going to make two different Mount rushmorees. I think

1636
01:17:47,279 --> 01:17:49,359
we're going to have to cut it down to four.

1637
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:51,720
But if we get two from one side and two

1638
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:54,960
from the other side, I think that's a good marriage.

1639
01:17:55,079 --> 01:17:57,720
Speaker 1: It could work out that way. It's going to be

1640
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:00,199
challenging because there's just going to be so many big

1641
01:18:00,279 --> 01:18:02,560
names from the real world. I think that will take

1642
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:03,159
a lot of space.

1643
01:18:03,199 --> 01:18:06,159
Speaker 2: And there's even like a couple from dedicated sports games

1644
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:08,239
that aren't real that I think have a chance of

1645
01:18:08,239 --> 01:18:12,520
being in there. But where should we start in your opinion, Oh,

1646
01:18:12,560 --> 01:18:15,119
we should start with Bo Jackson. Yeah, I think Bo

1647
01:18:15,239 --> 01:18:17,319
Jackson kind of is just gonna be a tough one.

1648
01:18:17,359 --> 01:18:19,119
I mean, it's the George Washington of this category.

1649
01:18:19,159 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 1: I really do think. Yeah, I do think he is.

1650
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:21,000
Speaker 3: That.

1651
01:18:21,319 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 2: This is both Bo Jackson from Technobil Super Techno to

1652
01:18:25,119 --> 01:18:27,039
Techno Super Bowl. He's been both right, but he's definitely

1653
01:18:27,039 --> 01:18:31,079
in Technobile. Bo Jackson was unstoppable in those games, and

1654
01:18:31,199 --> 01:18:35,039
to the point where it became like a meme. Before

1655
01:18:35,079 --> 01:18:36,920
there were memes of people just being like, yeah, you

1656
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:39,439
play Bo Jackson and you just run over everybody.

1657
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:42,399
Speaker 1: Uh you just went and you just yeah, you just win.

1658
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:45,479
He was literally unstoppable in a lot of senses in

1659
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:48,840
that game. And I think so when people think of

1660
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:50,720
a video game.

1661
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:54,399
Speaker 2: Sports superstar, most people do still save Bo Jackson first,

1662
01:18:54,399 --> 01:18:56,399
to the point where you know, just I'll go there

1663
01:18:56,399 --> 01:18:59,880
real quick. Dan Fiasco says bo Jackson Technobile, the great

1664
01:19:00,039 --> 01:19:01,880
of all time. That was the first response from the

1665
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,640
community when we ask them for their input.

1666
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:07,359
Speaker 1: As it should be. I think that's correct.

1667
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:09,760
Speaker 3: I have a feeling now we're just choosing three slots

1668
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:11,239
at this point. I think the first one's pretty much

1669
01:19:11,279 --> 01:19:11,920
locked down already.

1670
01:19:12,039 --> 01:19:14,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so as well.

1671
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:16,319
Speaker 2: Let me I had a list of stuff here on

1672
01:19:16,399 --> 01:19:18,279
me grab it real quick. Just help me with my

1673
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:25,640
faulty memory, said it's not on. I keep this stuff

1674
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:33,560
and keep someone search for real quick. There's one hang on,

1675
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:44,359
let me get through this, okay. From Backyard Baseball, Sanchez Sanchez,

1676
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:48,119
I think is actually another one that has a really

1677
01:19:48,159 --> 01:19:49,520
strong chance of being on.

1678
01:19:49,399 --> 01:19:51,239
Speaker 1: This that final list.

1679
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 3: That guy is an absolute monster. It's in backyard in general,

1680
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,399
but Pablo Sanchez is the one h when you think

1681
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:05,840
of backyard baseball, recent people have played backyard baseball may

1682
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:07,920
not think that, especially if you watch GDQ. If you

1683
01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:11,000
have not watched the Backyard Baseball at GDQ, I highly

1684
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:14,079
recommend you do so. It is fantastic. But yes, Pablo

1685
01:20:14,119 --> 01:20:19,359
Sanchez is absolutely undeniable as part of the video game creation,

1686
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:23,279
Baller I think I think that it's gonna be another

1687
01:20:23,279 --> 01:20:24,479
hard one to knock down.

1688
01:20:26,479 --> 01:20:28,359
Speaker 2: He was like so much better than all the other

1689
01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:31,239
characters in the game. That's like the whole idea. And

1690
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:34,640
then that carried over to a lot of other backyard games,

1691
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:37,800
but definitely Backyard Baseball was his heyday for sure.

1692
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:43,399
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, Now going back to real people in crazy

1693
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:46,920
video games, this one might be a tough sell because

1694
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:51,279
of real world reputation, but I think Michael Vick from

1695
01:20:51,279 --> 01:20:54,800
madd In two thousand and four is also a crazy

1696
01:20:55,279 --> 01:20:56,039
crazy pick.

1697
01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:58,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Michael Vick is definitely the next one I

1698
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:02,359
was thinking of as well. And now, yes, the reputation

1699
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:05,439
is he got put in prison for dog fighting, actually

1700
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:09,119
fighting little dogs. My stance on this often is if

1701
01:21:09,159 --> 01:21:11,359
you don't ever want to forgive someone, I don't think

1702
01:21:11,399 --> 01:21:12,720
I forgive him, But if you don't ever want to

1703
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:15,439
forgive someone for doing something like that, yeah, that makes

1704
01:21:15,439 --> 01:21:17,600
a ton of sense. At the same time, someone does

1705
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:21,000
something illegal, goes to prison, does their prison term, comes out,

1706
01:21:21,319 --> 01:21:24,520
and doesn't do it again. I try to lean in

1707
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:28,640
the direction of not not necessarily forgiveness, but the ability

1708
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:31,319
to believe in rehabilitation to a certain degree, and so

1709
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:33,880
I don't want to pretend they don't exist if they

1710
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:36,000
do their time after like doing the crime.

1711
01:21:36,119 --> 01:21:38,319
Speaker 1: So I think that's gonna.

1712
01:21:39,239 --> 01:21:41,319
Speaker 2: I might draw a line there between Michael Vick and

1713
01:21:41,359 --> 01:21:43,239
Mike Tyson because Mike Tyson's crime is a little bit

1714
01:21:43,279 --> 01:21:46,920
more heinous even than that. So Michael Vick is on

1715
01:21:47,039 --> 01:21:48,800
the okay side of this line, I think. And if

1716
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:51,680
you get mad at me, I understand. Yeah, So Michael

1717
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:53,880
Vick is up there for now. He was just so

1718
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:57,279
dominant in that game, and it made it was broken,

1719
01:21:57,720 --> 01:21:59,720
but in the way that like Bo Jackson was broken,

1720
01:22:00,159 --> 01:22:03,039
but for for three D Madden Football games, and that

1721
01:22:03,079 --> 01:22:06,600
means it was really fun and a really different way

1722
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:08,479
to play that game, to the point where it's like

1723
01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:11,720
that was one year's game was Michael Vick was everything,

1724
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:14,880
and then the next year's game, we're like, defense is back, guys,

1725
01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:18,079
we're gonna do defense to getting Madden. It's a different

1726
01:22:18,119 --> 01:22:20,760
game than last year. I remember thinking like, oh, that's

1727
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:21,920
very funny that.

1728
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 1: I go, we have to pay attention to defense now

1729
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:26,159
after making offense so much fun in that game.

1730
01:22:26,239 --> 01:22:28,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And it was. It was fascinating. In

1731
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:31,279
the Amazon documentary, it's in the game to hear them

1732
01:22:31,319 --> 01:22:33,439
talk about that era of Madden and how it was

1733
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:36,880
a complete like mistake that that happened, and it just

1734
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:41,399
went off on like this crazy like that. The the

1735
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:44,399
competitive scene was completely dominated by him. It was just

1736
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:47,880
a wild, wild time. So yeah, I would understand the

1737
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:50,239
apprehension if he gets knocked off, but I do think

1738
01:22:50,279 --> 01:22:51,319
he needs to be in consideration.

1739
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:55,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, I'm trying, like I got like a

1740
01:22:55,319 --> 01:22:58,199
bunch of guys kind of in the same place of like, Okay,

1741
01:22:58,199 --> 01:23:01,680
so Bo Jackson clearly just out standing in the real world,

1742
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:04,239
but in a video game because his character was sober powered.

1743
01:23:04,279 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 2: Saying with Michael Vick, there are like a couple of

1744
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:10,920
people who had like so many video games dedicated to themselves,

1745
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:16,279
and that's like Ken Griffy Junior and Kobe Bryant and

1746
01:23:16,439 --> 01:23:17,479
a couple a couple others.

1747
01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:18,920
Speaker 1: But maybe those are the two that come to mind

1748
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:20,640
first for me. Do you have anyone else like in

1749
01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:22,000
that category that you consider?

1750
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:27,000
Speaker 3: Uh, I know it's ballers, but are we considering sports?

1751
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, in sports, all sports?

1752
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 2: Yes, Wayne Gretzky, well yeah, Wayne, yes, okay, yes, yes,

1753
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:36,520
those were really well and.

1754
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 3: He was he was absolutely out of his gordon that game.

1755
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:41,720
Speaker 1: Right.

1756
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's like that those are the like the Yeah,

1757
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:45,399
I think there would be those three I would consider

1758
01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:48,960
for that spot, and not that that spot is guaranteed

1759
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:51,800
to get on the Mount Rushmore. But like of those three,

1760
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:54,840
I I think I might lean towards kN Griffy.

1761
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:56,560
Speaker 1: But that's definitely some bias of playing a lot of

1762
01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:57,439
those games as a kid.

1763
01:23:58,319 --> 01:24:00,840
Speaker 3: No, I think that's the one too. I think even

1764
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:03,000
if you were to ask someone who hasn't played games

1765
01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:06,800
in a long time, after Bo Jackson and even Michael Vick,

1766
01:24:07,279 --> 01:24:10,239
who's next, it would be Ken Griffy. So no, I

1767
01:24:10,279 --> 01:24:12,439
would be I would be with you on that one.

1768
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:12,920
Speaker 1: There.

1769
01:24:14,199 --> 01:24:16,119
Speaker 3: I'm gonna stick with baseball here for a second, and

1770
01:24:16,199 --> 01:24:20,399
I'm going to name someone who it technically fits both

1771
01:24:20,680 --> 01:24:23,399
sides of this argument, and I'll explain why. The name

1772
01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:28,840
is John Dowd, Okay, John Dowd, co O N Dowd.

1773
01:24:30,159 --> 01:24:32,720
He was in He was dominant in MVP Baseball two

1774
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:36,760
thousand and five. He is the stand in for Barry

1775
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:41,239
Bonds because Barry Bonds wanted to license his own likeness

1776
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:44,159
and did not allow them to use him in their game.

1777
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:47,800
So John Dowell, who was a producer on the MLB

1778
01:24:48,119 --> 01:24:50,680
Baseball two thousand and five game, they used his name

1779
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:54,039
with this generic player and what happened in MLB in

1780
01:24:54,039 --> 01:24:57,840
two thousand and four, which is what took its what

1781
01:24:58,119 --> 01:25:01,239
MVP two thousand and five took its inspiration from what

1782
01:25:01,399 --> 01:25:02,159
happened that year.

1783
01:25:02,199 --> 01:25:05,479
Speaker 1: Do you remember? That sounds about the time that we

1784
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:09,760
were getting a home run Chase runs from.

1785
01:25:11,199 --> 01:25:12,800
Speaker 3: So he comes into this game as the best hitter

1786
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:15,119
in the league and it's not even him but John

1787
01:25:15,199 --> 01:25:18,399
Dad MLB two thousand and five. That's that's like a

1788
01:25:18,479 --> 01:25:20,039
dark horse, sort of like slipping of the radar.

1789
01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:22,680
Speaker 1: But I like hearing that. I didn't realize that that's

1790
01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:23,680
what they did for that game.

1791
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:25,600
Speaker 2: I didn't play that game, but there's a there's a

1792
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:29,399
lot of examples of that, Like Michael Jordan very infrequently

1793
01:25:29,399 --> 01:25:31,960
allowed himself to be licensed for video games, so there

1794
01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:34,199
was often standings for him.

1795
01:25:34,439 --> 01:25:35,199
Speaker 1: God, I think it.

1796
01:25:35,119 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 2: Was what was there a stand in Philly quarterback in

1797
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:40,319
Super Technobile.

1798
01:25:40,359 --> 01:25:41,279
Speaker 1: I feel like it was just.

1799
01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:46,079
Speaker 2: Eagles Da Cunningham. Yeah, that's Randall Cunningham exactly. Yes, and

1800
01:25:46,119 --> 01:25:47,720
he was actually pretty excellent in that game.

1801
01:25:48,079 --> 01:25:48,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was.

1802
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:50,199
Speaker 1: He was. It was awesome.

1803
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:54,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, ninety of the people in in in like the

1804
01:25:55,119 --> 01:25:58,159
past day, the winning eleven days where she was all

1805
01:25:58,199 --> 01:26:01,399
standings because for for Yes players, you couldn't get any

1806
01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:05,880
any likeness that the old days. People reminded like Maradona

1807
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:08,920
wouldn't live it. So they have a random guy every

1808
01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:11,880
time that was just him. She's a different name, mister

1809
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:15,840
stays Christian.

1810
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:17,359
Speaker 1: I want to what we have you talking here.

1811
01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:21,199
Speaker 2: I do want to ask you, is there a standout

1812
01:26:21,279 --> 01:26:24,039
like Lionel Messi in a game like, oh, he just

1813
01:26:24,079 --> 01:26:25,479
completely dominates this game.

1814
01:26:26,159 --> 01:26:30,520
Speaker 4: Well, Lionel Messi for sure, but I would say, uh,

1815
01:26:31,319 --> 01:26:34,680
like iconic. I think iconic. I remember from like the

1816
01:26:35,119 --> 01:26:37,640
cover of the game for for FIFA he was no

1817
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:41,560
sorry for winning Leone, he was ree. I remember it's

1818
01:26:41,640 --> 01:26:44,119
just in my in my eye list I close my

1819
01:26:44,159 --> 01:26:46,079
eyes said, I see that that that cover.

1820
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:48,199
Speaker 1: For really, Yes, I know what you're talking about. That one.

1821
01:26:50,079 --> 01:26:54,279
Speaker 4: He's like and he's one of the greatest old times.

1822
01:26:54,279 --> 01:26:56,600
But like in that game I remember that game, she was,

1823
01:26:56,720 --> 01:26:58,680
that game being that game and him being that in

1824
01:26:58,720 --> 01:27:01,359
that game she was, which has so many good memories,

1825
01:27:01,479 --> 01:27:02,760
is like of a time.

1826
01:27:03,640 --> 01:27:05,039
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put Wane Gretzky back up here.

1827
01:27:05,079 --> 01:27:08,479
Speaker 2: Actually, Uh, let's see Wayne Gretzky is gonna be the

1828
01:27:08,479 --> 01:27:11,560
hockey player. It's like people are mentioning Mario Lemieux for

1829
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:12,840
NHL ninety four.

1830
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:14,840
Speaker 1: He dominated that, and that's true.

1831
01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:16,520
Speaker 2: But that game is just all around great and you

1832
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:17,920
could played a lot of as a lot of teams

1833
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:19,960
in there and have a really good time, including as

1834
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:23,039
the La Kings with Wayne Gretzky, and it would be fantastic.

1835
01:27:23,159 --> 01:27:24,880
Or I think they might have had a Gretzky stand in,

1836
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:26,920
but still, all.

1837
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:29,560
Speaker 1: Right, do you have anything else? Yeah, any anyone else

1838
01:27:29,560 --> 01:27:30,399
you want to throw up there?

1839
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:30,920
Speaker 5: Uh?

1840
01:27:31,039 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 3: Do we put Tiger Woods from his own?

1841
01:27:33,039 --> 01:27:35,039
Speaker 2: I think we yes. I think we probably do put

1842
01:27:35,039 --> 01:27:37,279
Tiger Woods up there. In fact, I think he stands

1843
01:27:37,319 --> 01:27:40,600
a pretty decent chance of making the final four. Okay,

1844
01:27:40,880 --> 01:27:46,760
he's so like he dominated an entire multiple generations of

1845
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:49,680
a sports game genre that was relatively.

1846
01:27:49,199 --> 01:27:52,680
Speaker 1: Huge at that time. Uh. And it's like you kind

1847
01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:54,479
of can't imagine golf games without.

1848
01:27:54,279 --> 01:27:59,039
Speaker 3: Tiger Woods, right right? That boy here is his brock

1849
01:27:59,119 --> 01:28:02,279
lessener in every game. I'm not gonna on any of

1850
01:28:02,279 --> 01:28:06,600
our lists. He was nuts and here comes the pain.

1851
01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:10,119
That is definitely true. Another person brings up in chat

1852
01:28:10,159 --> 01:28:12,880
poke nine to five one three brings up fighting baseball.

1853
01:28:13,359 --> 01:28:14,039
Do you know about this?

1854
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 1: No.

1855
01:28:16,319 --> 01:28:19,520
Speaker 3: One of the baseball games was when it was sent

1856
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:23,520
over to Japan, they used a Japanese game designer had

1857
01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:25,560
to make up a bunch of American names.

1858
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:30,439
Speaker 1: So these are some of the Yeah, I love every

1859
01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:31,560
single names.

1860
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:36,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, Mike Truck sleeve, mcdikaell, mcdeve, McDill is my best one. Yes,

1861
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:40,199
that's my favorite. I'm always I've always been partial to

1862
01:28:40,199 --> 01:28:42,840
add atoly smorn. That one's that's very good.

1863
01:28:43,079 --> 01:28:44,399
Speaker 1: I want to get I want to get a sleeve

1864
01:28:44,479 --> 01:28:45,840
mcdiicall jersey.

1865
01:28:46,399 --> 01:28:49,119
Speaker 2: In fact, we should, we should sell sleeve mcdiicaell jerseys

1866
01:28:49,199 --> 01:28:50,319
in the Giant Bomb store.

1867
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:54,039
Speaker 4: Is not like a name that kid Field kid when

1868
01:28:54,039 --> 01:28:55,520
they did that, A little.

1869
01:28:55,279 --> 01:28:55,960
Speaker 1: Bit like that.

1870
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:58,640
Speaker 2: That list, that roster of names sounds a lot like

1871
01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:01,560
the Key and Peel a sketch, but but for like

1872
01:29:02,039 --> 01:29:04,079
what Japanese people thought white names.

1873
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:06,600
Speaker 1: Were in the eighties, which is a very funny concept.

1874
01:29:08,199 --> 01:29:10,680
Speaker 3: This one is Scott and the last name is spelled

1875
01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:13,319
like Bork, like Ray Bork. But it's the letter D

1876
01:29:13,359 --> 01:29:15,800
in the beginning, so it's Scott Dork Scott.

1877
01:29:16,359 --> 01:29:19,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think people also looked.

1878
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:21,920
Speaker 2: I think a lot of these names are like one

1879
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:25,680
off from hockey players. They like took North American hockey

1880
01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:29,119
players and adapted their names and changed them slightly, and.

1881
01:29:29,159 --> 01:29:31,920
Speaker 1: They changed like the wrong letters, and a lot of cases.

1882
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:37,680
Speaker 3: And basketball players. Is Raoul Chamberlain's Oh yeah, yeah, that's right.

1883
01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:41,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, man, that's good stuff. Okay, let's let's talk

1884
01:29:41,359 --> 01:29:45,600
about a couple of others real quick. Tony Hawk. Tony

1885
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:48,840
Hawk is just kind of like iconic athlete for the

1886
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:53,479
entire extreme sports genre, kicked off the extreme sports genre,

1887
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:56,840
which was bigger than a lot of other sports games

1888
01:29:56,880 --> 01:30:00,119
for a very very long time. And he's also now

1889
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:01,880
I stood the test of time by being able to

1890
01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:05,600
come back and recapture a lot of that magic. I

1891
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:07,960
think he's close. I think he's that we're worthy of consideration.

1892
01:30:08,039 --> 01:30:09,359
I'm gonna put him on the short list.

1893
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:14,000
Speaker 3: Yep, I'm fine with that. I feel like we might

1894
01:30:14,079 --> 01:30:16,359
need to be We have a lot of real people.

1895
01:30:16,399 --> 01:30:18,199
I think we might start thinking of.

1896
01:30:19,039 --> 01:30:20,560
Speaker 1: Well, okay, let's let's get this.

1897
01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:25,000
Speaker 2: Maybe the silly one, by the way, Mario because Mario's

1898
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:29,199
Mario's got a game for every sport except for hockey.

1899
01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:30,880
Speaker 1: So that's true.

1900
01:30:32,039 --> 01:30:34,239
Speaker 2: So any like maybe one of the greatest bowlers of

1901
01:30:34,239 --> 01:30:35,359
all time when you consider it.

1902
01:30:36,399 --> 01:30:39,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been bowling for almost forty years now. I

1903
01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:41,680
guess we can put him on there.

1904
01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:44,239
Speaker 1: I'm not putting Mario on the on the Mount Rushmoor

1905
01:30:44,399 --> 01:30:46,560
of video games, but I.

1906
01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:50,000
Speaker 3: Think there's a better Nintendo representative.

1907
01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:51,359
Speaker 1: Who do you have?

1908
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:57,720
Speaker 3: That's WE Sports Matt. Uh wait, but the bald the

1909
01:30:57,800 --> 01:31:02,840
bald I think he's African American black boxer. Oh right, okay,

1910
01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:06,600
who would you whip your ass at the hardest levels

1911
01:31:06,640 --> 01:31:10,319
of we boxing? That might be WE Sports Matt might

1912
01:31:10,319 --> 01:31:11,159
be one to consider.

1913
01:31:12,239 --> 01:31:14,640
Speaker 1: Was it one or two t's and WE Sports Matt?

1914
01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:17,840
Speaker 3: I think it's Matt. We do Matt two t's and

1915
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:19,560
then in parenthes, we Sports I think would be the

1916
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:20,560
best swing We.

1917
01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:24,399
Speaker 1: I like WE Sports Matt. That's even better Sports Matt. Yeah,

1918
01:31:24,439 --> 01:31:27,399
it's like it's full legal name. Oh yeah, it's good.

1919
01:31:27,399 --> 01:31:30,319
Speaker 2: Point Willow Davis Walawigi was literally made for a sports game.

1920
01:31:30,319 --> 01:31:33,239
Who's made for Mario Tennis? At the so Mario would

1921
01:31:33,239 --> 01:31:35,720
have a doubles partner that's true.

1922
01:31:36,439 --> 01:31:38,600
Speaker 4: Cant it down and then delete it right away.

1923
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:43,000
Speaker 2: Yes you uh you know what happen, Christian. I even

1924
01:31:43,119 --> 01:31:44,960
I just forgot who we were even talking about. That's

1925
01:31:44,960 --> 01:31:47,760
how much I've deleted him for my brain. So let

1926
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:50,840
let's go to check the discord real quick. We'll just

1927
01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:53,640
get a couple of inputs here. Okay, sure the switch

1928
01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:59,600
well five, says Daisy. Uh oh, look we sports Matt

1929
01:32:00,119 --> 01:32:05,680
right there from met Lauren. Okay, a chance, Tommy pencils

1930
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:08,920
as he has wont to do, says leisure suit Larry

1931
01:32:09,600 --> 01:32:14,680
from What Dreams Dry Twice. There you go, Hamming of Texas,

1932
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:16,479
says discman from wind Jammers.

1933
01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:16,720
Speaker 1: Two.

1934
01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:21,039
Speaker 3: Oh hell yeah, look look at that venture bro villain looking.

1935
01:32:21,319 --> 01:32:25,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly what he looks like. Input name here

1936
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:28,319
says a decked out Honda Civic from Civic.

1937
01:32:28,000 --> 01:32:31,079
Speaker 1: Type r O. Wait, I know I got to hang

1938
01:32:31,079 --> 01:32:31,600
on here we go?

1939
01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:32,720
Speaker 3: Can we get rs?

1940
01:32:33,279 --> 01:32:33,520
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1941
01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:38,159
Speaker 2: That's literally what I'm writing right now. It's Toyota yaris h.

1942
01:32:39,239 --> 01:32:41,159
All right, we're on the same way, same wave length,

1943
01:32:41,359 --> 01:32:44,720
screaming Matten does say. Michael Vick from Matten four is

1944
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:47,840
up there with Bo Jackson for most op football players.

1945
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:48,439
Speaker 1: In gaming.

1946
01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:52,319
Speaker 2: That's right, Matt says, two K sixteen Steph Curry literally

1947
01:32:52,399 --> 01:32:55,239
forced them to change how three point baskets were calculated.

1948
01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:59,079
Speaker 1: That's wow. There's probably a world in which he does

1949
01:32:59,159 --> 01:32:59,920
make it on this list.

1950
01:33:01,039 --> 01:33:04,880
Speaker 3: Villain we pay more attention to basketball and unfortunately.

1951
01:33:04,479 --> 01:33:09,399
Speaker 1: Exactly Uh villain Max is Augustus Cole.

1952
01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:12,319
Speaker 3: Oh right, Coltrain.

1953
01:33:12,960 --> 01:33:15,640
Speaker 1: That's that's a that's a pretty good one. That's a

1954
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:19,520
great one. Okay, I'm gonna write him down. Let's see here.

1955
01:33:19,640 --> 01:33:21,720
Speaker 3: Every time every time we talk about him. Back when

1956
01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:24,000
I worked in gaming retail, the one one of the

1957
01:33:24,079 --> 01:33:26,039
guys we would work with would always bring up terrible

1958
01:33:26,119 --> 01:33:27,439
Terry Tate office linebacker.

1959
01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:32,399
Speaker 1: Huh you killed a Joe? Make some boat? Claim the guy,

1960
01:33:34,079 --> 01:33:40,439
oh Golden Chilling who made video games and.

1961
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:43,399
Speaker 2: Has his the Ars technical story here about his failures.

1962
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:47,760
Blaze Blaze NOAs is Tiger Woods. Uh that sounds about right,

1963
01:33:48,399 --> 01:33:51,960
James Pie says Glover, who is literally bouncing a basketball,

1964
01:33:52,359 --> 01:33:54,239
So yeah, a fantastic baller.

1965
01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:59,119
Speaker 1: Ali Miracle says Congo. Congo is a secret character in

1966
01:33:59,279 --> 01:34:03,039
NBA Jam Tournament Edition. Oh right, the monkey. I remember

1967
01:34:03,079 --> 01:34:06,319
people in life this character. Now we did not mention

1968
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:10,720
the multitude of secret characters in NBA. Jam, does Mark

1969
01:34:11,399 --> 01:34:12,039
make this list?

1970
01:34:12,279 --> 01:34:12,479
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1971
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:15,920
Speaker 3: You want to talk about not being forgiven Bill Clinton

1972
01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:16,359
on this list?

1973
01:34:16,880 --> 01:34:19,319
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, you're right, he should go right to the top.

1974
01:34:19,399 --> 01:34:23,560
We forgive you Bill Clinton. No, yeah, Bill, Bill Clinton.

1975
01:34:23,680 --> 01:34:31,119
Speaker 3: Kid, that just the caveat No yeah, go ahead, no, no, no,

1976
01:34:31,199 --> 01:34:31,880
go ahead, keep going.

1977
01:34:32,680 --> 01:34:37,760
Speaker 2: Uhlkah, Dylan says Griff of Griffball fame. Fair enough, okay,

1978
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:40,920
Keywork says literally NBA ballers?

1979
01:34:41,119 --> 01:34:42,840
Speaker 3: Is that is Stefan Marbury?

1980
01:34:43,239 --> 01:34:46,560
Speaker 1: Yes, Stephan Marberry? Right? What was the the one that

1981
01:34:46,600 --> 01:34:49,119
had Chauncey Billups on the cover? Was that in one

1982
01:34:49,159 --> 01:34:51,560
of the NBA Showtime games? I can't remember.

1983
01:34:52,319 --> 01:34:57,600
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe let me see, let's see. Uh, you should

1984
01:34:57,600 --> 01:35:00,319
have had that ready for Detroit. Brain over here, Christian?

1985
01:35:00,359 --> 01:35:02,399
Speaker 1: Who is this? Am I looking at?

1986
01:35:02,960 --> 01:35:05,079
Speaker 4: What's his name for? Oh?

1987
01:35:05,159 --> 01:35:05,560
Speaker 1: You kidd me?

1988
01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:07,760
Speaker 4: I like Pokemon, but I'm not an expert.

1989
01:35:08,720 --> 01:35:10,520
Speaker 3: Slash Blue from Pokemon your first one?

1990
01:35:11,239 --> 01:35:13,199
Speaker 1: Okay? What makes him a baller? Oh?

1991
01:35:14,239 --> 01:35:16,840
Speaker 3: He throws poke balls? Oh my god?

1992
01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:21,600
Speaker 1: All right, warden Cliff says, Pablo Sanchez. There it is Zuel?

1993
01:35:22,640 --> 01:35:26,319
Is that beef tank? Wait? Is beef Tank from from

1994
01:35:26,439 --> 01:35:31,359
What's his Name series. What does Beef take from? I

1995
01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:33,680
don't know that. I love the name is that? Is

1996
01:35:33,720 --> 01:35:40,880
that John Boyce's character. I like you take a lot.

1997
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:42,640
Speaker 3: Oh, I like Beef taking a whole lot.

1998
01:35:43,800 --> 01:35:46,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. From Breaking Madden. Yes, Breaky Madden is fantastic.

1999
01:35:46,840 --> 01:35:49,600
Speaker 3: Okay, Oh, I watched a lot of Secret bas with

2000
01:35:49,640 --> 01:35:51,039
John boll but I haven't watched that one yet.

2001
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:55,520
Speaker 2: Uh okay, Tan says Cactoir my favorite basketball player.

2002
01:35:56,159 --> 01:35:59,279
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, that's right. This is DS three on three

2003
01:35:59,359 --> 01:36:04,319
basketball game. Low Rule has the cover art art character

2004
01:36:04,479 --> 01:36:09,600
from Drag and Drive. There it is clicks got JACKI

2005
01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:13,079
Wilseon Wilson from Jockie Wilson's Compendium of Darts, which has

2006
01:36:13,159 --> 01:36:17,520
the best cover art of all time. Doominal Crossing has

2007
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:20,399
Mario There you Go dunking in NBA Street Volume three.

2008
01:36:21,159 --> 01:36:25,840
Speaker 2: He's been in everything e zipsys Iss Bugs, Bunny from

2009
01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:29,279
Looney Tunes, b Ball on Super Nintendo. But no Goku rules,

2010
01:36:29,479 --> 01:36:31,000
which doesn't make any sense because there's a lot of

2011
01:36:31,039 --> 01:36:34,199
go cues on here. But if you're a real sports athlete,

2012
01:36:34,399 --> 01:36:36,840
I guess this doesn't matter. No, no Go Goku rules

2013
01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:38,920
don't apply here. This one just feels like cheating because

2014
01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:44,800
it's a movie adaptation. You forgot a line there, and

2015
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:46,640
then he says, what other sports game allow you to

2016
01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:55,159
cream pie? Opponents always be clothing slash Corgi also says Mario,

2017
01:36:55,760 --> 01:36:57,520
and that does it from the community input.

2018
01:36:57,560 --> 01:36:59,239
Speaker 1: Okay, so we have our short list.

2019
01:36:59,359 --> 01:37:03,840
Speaker 2: It is boj Pablo Sanchez, Michael Vick, Ken, Griffy Jr.

2020
01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:08,000
John dowd Wayne Gretzky, Tiger Woods, Tony Hawk, We Sports,

2021
01:37:08,079 --> 01:37:13,039
Matt Toyo, Toyota Yaris, and Augusta Coltrane.

2022
01:37:13,239 --> 01:37:14,000
Speaker 3: Augustas Cole.

2023
01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:19,439
Speaker 2: Augustus is Augustus. That's what I meant, Augustus Coltrane. Okay,

2024
01:37:20,000 --> 01:37:23,640
where do you Let's just bold bo Let's yeah, bold

2025
01:37:23,640 --> 01:37:26,680
bo Jackson and you can probably bold Pablo too. Honestly, Yes,

2026
01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:29,880
that sounds right to me. Okay, so that means that

2027
01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:32,960
means we have two slots left. What are you thinking,

2028
01:37:33,279 --> 01:37:34,079
Jason Finelli?

2029
01:37:39,640 --> 01:37:43,039
Speaker 3: And we have one of each real world person who

2030
01:37:43,119 --> 01:37:46,279
dominated en video game created. So we we are doing

2031
01:37:46,359 --> 01:37:47,720
if we're going for the two and two?

2032
01:37:49,359 --> 01:37:56,720
Speaker 1: Oh god, I can't tell you what I'm liking right now?

2033
01:37:56,880 --> 01:37:57,560
Speaker 3: Is is cool?

2034
01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:01,359
Speaker 1: I like yeah, I like Coltrane.

2035
01:38:02,119 --> 01:38:06,000
Speaker 3: I like Coltrane, But I think I would put We

2036
01:38:06,119 --> 01:38:07,720
Sports Mad above Coltrane just.

2037
01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:10,319
Speaker 1: Okay, like, no, love that too, all right, Okay that

2038
01:38:10,399 --> 01:38:10,720
sounds in.

2039
01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:14,079
Speaker 3: Coltrane is a is a football player, but known for

2040
01:38:14,159 --> 01:38:17,000
a shooter and being a crazy But we sports Matt

2041
01:38:17,399 --> 01:38:19,920
punched your face in and boxing it was sports Okay.

2042
01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:22,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, his creds are more real. I like that.

2043
01:38:23,039 --> 01:38:28,359
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, if so, If it's me, I'm saying as

2044
01:38:28,439 --> 01:38:30,560
much as Michael Vick was dominant and Madden, I think

2045
01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:32,560
I like your Tony Hawk arguments. So Tony Hawk and

2046
01:38:32,640 --> 01:38:33,279
we Sports Matt.

2047
01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:36,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tony Hawk is I'm like trying to look at

2048
01:38:36,079 --> 01:38:39,399
the Yeah, it probably is Tony Hawk. God, he's so

2049
01:38:39,640 --> 01:38:42,479
important to an entire genre of sports and video games.

2050
01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:44,760
Speaker 3: And if people give you a ship for not putting

2051
01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:47,680
Michael Vick in, your argument for Tony Hawk is longevity

2052
01:38:47,840 --> 01:38:49,560
and the fact that he's able to go away and

2053
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:52,920
come back. We can forgive him for Tony Hawk ride.

2054
01:38:54,239 --> 01:38:58,039
Speaker 2: Right, Yes, we forgive you Tony Hawk for what you've done,

2055
01:38:58,119 --> 01:38:59,479
your crimes against gaming.

2056
01:38:59,800 --> 01:39:04,359
Speaker 1: I think Tiger Woods is close. I also think like, yeah,

2057
01:39:04,680 --> 01:39:07,439
he's pretty close, but yeah, it probably is Tony Hawk.

2058
01:39:08,520 --> 01:39:11,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's I think it's Tony Home. Okay,

2059
01:39:12,039 --> 01:39:15,000
so some idiots would be like, Tony Hawk doesn't ball.

2060
01:39:16,359 --> 01:39:19,239
Speaker 1: Now we we just mean athletes. That's all we're talking about.

2061
01:39:19,439 --> 01:39:22,079
Speaker 3: If you if you, oh, somebody just did Eric Gi

2062
01:39:22,199 --> 01:39:23,399
what bull of skateboard though?

2063
01:39:23,520 --> 01:39:23,960
Speaker 1: Stop it.

2064
01:39:25,960 --> 01:39:31,960
Speaker 4: Of I got on the chat, so be careful what

2065
01:39:32,079 --> 01:39:32,680
you said to him.

2066
01:39:32,720 --> 01:39:35,840
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I got I have an army pointed at

2067
01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:39,520
chat right now. Okay, there we go. So then Mount

2068
01:39:39,560 --> 01:39:43,399
Rushmore of video game ballers, Tony Hawk, we sports, Matt

2069
01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:45,520
bo Jackson, and Pablo Sanchez.

2070
01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:48,479
Speaker 1: Does that sound right to you, Jason Bonelli? Sounds great?

2071
01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:51,000
Speaker 3: The only request I would make is if you put this,

2072
01:39:51,159 --> 01:39:53,880
when you put this on social media, add a line

2073
01:39:54,000 --> 01:40:03,880
honorable mention Toyota Yaris just but yeah, that's uh. I

2074
01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:06,520
think as soon as we that's awesome. But no, I

2075
01:40:06,840 --> 01:40:10,600
am happy with this list. We are leaving out a

2076
01:40:10,720 --> 01:40:12,439
big one in Michael Vick. I think I think that's

2077
01:40:12,479 --> 01:40:13,600
gonna be the one where people are like, what the

2078
01:40:13,640 --> 01:40:14,520
hell are you talking about?

2079
01:40:15,079 --> 01:40:17,000
Speaker 1: But it was close. He almost made it.

2080
01:40:17,119 --> 01:40:19,079
Speaker 3: It's a he would be. He would be the actual

2081
01:40:19,159 --> 01:40:19,760
fifth not to.

2082
01:40:20,319 --> 01:40:23,000
Speaker 2: And really the reality is it's like he's it's bo

2083
01:40:23,119 --> 01:40:25,479
Jackson again. It's the same it's the same thing that

2084
01:40:25,600 --> 01:40:28,920
with Bo Jackson. And you're not George bo Jackson's George

2085
01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:30,600
Washington on this list, and you're kind of hard for

2086
01:40:30,640 --> 01:40:33,239
you to be like, well, me too, it's kind of

2087
01:40:33,279 --> 01:40:34,680
go You kind of cancel each other out.

2088
01:40:34,520 --> 01:40:36,279
Speaker 1: A little bit, and then bo Jackson gets the favor

2089
01:40:36,359 --> 01:40:36,840
in that case.

2090
01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:40,920
Speaker 3: Philly Philly bias is not real. Pillow Toilet, I would

2091
01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:41,680
have put him on the list.

2092
01:40:42,239 --> 01:40:43,000
Speaker 1: I was biased.

2093
01:40:44,439 --> 01:40:47,039
Speaker 2: Okay, mount Rush, you know, I'll do this while we're

2094
01:40:47,079 --> 01:40:48,880
on the break. We are gonna go on a break.

2095
01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:51,199
We're to come back talk about what we've been playing.

2096
01:40:51,279 --> 01:40:54,880
We're going to wrap up the super chats, and then

2097
01:40:54,920 --> 01:40:55,760
we're gonna get out of here.

2098
01:40:55,840 --> 01:40:57,039
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after this.

2099
01:41:00,079 --> 01:41:03,159
Speaker 2: We are back and we're celebrating Beef Tank here on

2100
01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:06,760
game as the sides with me, Jeff Grubb and him

2101
01:41:07,000 --> 01:41:07,760
Jason Pinelli.

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Speaker 1: Uh, Jason.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to the super chats here in a second.

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In the meantime, what have you been playing? Wrapped up

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Dockey Kong Bonanza last weekend? And it ended fine, you know,

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there was an ending. It was it was fine.

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Speaker 3: It was all right. I don't think we're in I

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think we're still in uh spoiler territory.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 3: So I don't think the game to spoil though, so yes, yeah, yeah,

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yeah yeah, So I don't want to get too much

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into it, but I highly suggest that if you're playing

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Doc Kong Bananza, you see it through from there. I've

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just kind of been aimless. There's some things that I've

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been playing that I can't talk about for certain reasons.

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They're looking for the next game to fill. Bonanzo the

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Bonanza like the game that I play, and I think

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it's going to be rage Bound. I think that's going

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to be next for me. It's what I'm playing. I

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really I want to play that, and then I'll lead

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right into Shinobi, so I'm really excited for that one.

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So I'll just playing both at the same time. Hearing

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the Ninja Gaidan's only about twelve hours long, I don't

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know how far you are in it.

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Speaker 1: It's actually kind of long for a retro throwback to

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an eight bit era game. Sure, sure, but everyone's saying.

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Speaker 2: It's like it actually flies by, so I could see

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that it's got relatively quick levels. You're gonna upgrade your

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character and then the boss fights I think are gonna

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be a little bit lengthy because they are difficult, and

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so I think it's gonna be one of those ones

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where like, all right, I overcame that can't wait to

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use all my new abilities take on this next level,

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and oh great, another tough boss fight.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, twelve hours is where that game is sitting.

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Speaker 3: According to most people right now, that's cool, But yeah,

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I've really just been kind of aimless at the moment,

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just kind of covering stuff, waiting for waiting for EVO,

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and just like getting into that scene, seeing who the

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big players are, looking at the couple of running stories

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that I'm getting into for that. But we can talk

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about that tomorrow on the mess I just or the

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other mess I guess I should say. Yeah, I mean

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it's I'm still in that weird like just finished a game,

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waiting to pick up the next one. I want to

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play Clear Obscure, I really really do, but I don't

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know if I want to play that on console or

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if I want to play it on the Legion go

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and bring it with me. It's not on switch to yet.

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That was one of the big disappointments from today's direct

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that it didn't show up. So I do want to

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get that in before the end of the year though,

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because I feel like I'm going to have to know

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about that for Game of the Year considerations, So we're

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going to have to I'm going to have to figure

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time out to get figure out time to play that.

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Plus there's so much coming in August. We already talked

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about Ninja gaid in the Shanobi. There's that mel You're

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Solid Delta waiting in the wings as well. Yeah, and

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that weird, that weird flux where waiting for things to happen,

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waiting for a new game to play, if I even

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bother with it, until the next review game comes in,

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because that is the that is the difficulty, as we

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talked about earlier, like we want to play a game

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that's in our backlog, but then the next game we

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have to talk about to stay current comes in and

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we only have so much time where both family men

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with children, that time is very easily absorbed. So I

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just kind of sit here in this weird no current

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game purgatory until I finally decide, yeah, I'm gonna play.

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Speaker 2: Something, yeah, I yeah, got credits on Donkey Kong kind

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of felt something similar, and it was like, all right,

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I'll get expedition set up. And then as I was

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doing that, we were talking in a meeting and it's like, hey,

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everyone's gonna be gone this week. We tried to do

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a Ninja guide and Rage Bound quick look. I'm like, oh, yeah,

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I could start playing that right now. I'm glad I

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did it. Is It's very good.

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Speaker 4: It is.

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Speaker 1: You know, one of the words I like to use

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for a game, I like snappy.

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Speaker 2: Like you just feel like you press the button and

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cool shit is happening immediately and it leads into the

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next obvious move and you just get in the flow

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of things. And I definitely notice I as a bad

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habit with games where I try to do the thing

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that isn't like the Path of Least Resistance of Oh

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I'm just gonna play simply and ensure that I'm gonna

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be safe in this game. I'm like, I want to

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look and feel cool, and this game really facilitates that,

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really makes that part of the experience of jumping around.

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There's a huge I frame window for the role, and

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so I'm constantly trying to dodge through attacks and stuff

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like that and just feeling like a cool ass Ninja

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and it works, and then you get in the boss

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fights and you have to learn the patterns and it's

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a very you know Mike Tyson's punch out from Soft

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Coded for the boss fights, which is I think what

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I want from boss fights these days is just take

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that that you know instruction set and apply it to

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your game as well. I almost like wish the Donkey

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Kong bosses would have been more like that as well.

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It's bosses should maybe more difficult and then give a

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skip the boss option to people if they want, or

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or a way where it like it tones it down.

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If you want your game to be very friendly to

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people and they could just select that from the menu

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or something like that. But Ninja Gaid doesn't sort of,

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you know, it isn't meek about its bosses. It does

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get in your face and they are challenging. I'm really

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enjoying that. The other thing that I have is it

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just got delivered today and I've been kind of messing

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around with it during this show, kind of fiddling with it.

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Speaker 1: The eight bit dough, I don't know what the let

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me see with it.

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Speaker 2: If they have the name on the back here, the

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eight bit DOUGH sixty four bluetooth controller. It is the

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in A sixty four controller that they are putting out

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for the Analog sixty four whatever they call the Analog

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three D.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 2: So it has one analog stick on the left and

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then six face buttons in A and a B button

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and then C buttons and it's you know, so it

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looks like an Xbox controller, but it has the button

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layout and the button inputs of an N sixty four controller.

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Speaker 1: And the dpad feels pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Eight bit dose dpads have been really solid for a

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minute now, and I hope this one's just as good.

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Speaker 1: But it feels really good.

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Speaker 2: All the buttons feel cookie without being without having that

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loud click, which I don't mind and know a lot

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of people do, but I also don't mind if it's quiet.

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Speaker 1: It feels really nice to press these buttons. One of

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the reasons I've been fiddling with it the whole time.

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Speaker 2: And it has the the N sixty four or sort

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of concentric rings is that is that how you say that,

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the sort of convex control. Yeah, the convex controller where

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it's like really kind of digs into your thumb in

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a satisfying way, and I like that as well.

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Speaker 1: Gonna mess around with this a lot.

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Speaker 2: I have a special dongle where I should be able

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to connect this to my shoot in sixty four and

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play with it using this. Oh, the analog three D

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should be here relatively soon, so looking forward to really

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messing around with this thing at that point, although I

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can also just use it on an emulator on my computer.

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Beyond that, though, I'm still playing Donkey Kong Got credits,

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but I am trying. There's like postgame content. I kind

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of just realized what that is. Like, it took me

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a second that it's like go back underground and do

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a thing, and I'm like, okay, I'm following the following

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the exclamation point.

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Speaker 1: Where is it?

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Speaker 2: I finally found where it's leading me, and I'm like, okay,

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so I'll do more of that. But as I've been

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looking for that, I've been just kind of choosing a

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sub layer at random and clearing it all out and

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getting one hundred percent in it and finding everything, and that's.

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Speaker 1: Been pretty fun.

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Speaker 2: It is a game where, oh, they really did think

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about the way everyone's going to be playing it.

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Speaker 1: If you are just going to do what I.

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Speaker 2: Originally did, which is all right, I'm gonna pick up

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this controller and do what feels right, and that means

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just punching my way through these levels and destroying everything,

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getting to the next main objective, and then following those

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bananas down the chute getting to the next sub layer

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and doing the same thing. And it was almost just

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like the game overtook me and just said, hey, unleash

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the beast and start punching shit and destroying everything and

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have a good time.

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Speaker 1: And I did.

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Speaker 2: Now that I've gone back and I'm playing it the

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way some other people have been playing, which is, here's

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a list of stuff to fine, here's a bunch of

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tools to find all that stuff. Go ahead and check

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everything off the list and say, oh, this is extremely

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fun as well. This is also just as good of

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a game this way as it is to get into

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the rhythm of it and just unleash the monster inside.

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So it's just like, oh, that's how you know you

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have a team that really understands what they're making, has

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full confidence over their ability to build a game in

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two different directions and accommodate all those different.

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Speaker 1: Kinds of play styles, and it's just reconvincing me that

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this is one of the better games I've played in

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a very long time.

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Speaker 2: So yep, still loving Bonanza, just like picking up the

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switch to as well and having a reason to play that.

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And yeah, there's a ton of content, like I got

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credits and this feels like I still have more than

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fifty percent of that game left if I wanted to

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keep playing.

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Speaker 1: So very excited about that.

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Speaker 3: I can echo about that about Bonanza. Today was the

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first day I mentioned on the BombCast I wasn't going

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to let my daughters play it until I finished it

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because the check pointing is crazy. Today was the first

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day they came home from camp and my older daughter

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Lived said, hey, can I can I mess around and

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Banza for a little while. I said absolutely, so, I'm

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sitting here covering I'm sitting here covering Battlefield. I handed

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her to switch too. She sat right here, and within

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five minutes I heard, oh banana, and I'm like, oh,

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hell yeah. She found one without me needing I help.

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She got to the first post game objective you were

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talking about and started that thing without me even needed to,

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And she eventually got to the point where she's like, Dad,

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I can't do this, Can you help me? I'm like, yeah, sure,

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I picked it up and I play a little bit too.

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But the fact that she was able to just mess

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around do whatever she wanted. She was messing with all

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the different bonanzas she was found that. I said, she

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found that banana without me needing to help her. It

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was it was really neat just to hear that going

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on and for her to be able to pick it

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up so fast. It really does, like you were saying,

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speak to they thought of everyone when it came to

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playing Bonanza, and right now as it stands, I think

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it is my game of the year so far. I

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know you said that on the BombCast as well. That

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is with a big gaping hole in the backlog known

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as Claire obscure. I do have to acknowledge that I

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did play Blueprints. Though I did I didn't play it.

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I did play it Blueprints and it is still up there,

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so I do have that taken care of. But yeah,

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it's it's very very good stuff.

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Speaker 1: Uh real quick.

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Speaker 2: In chat, I know Mike machia Chek in Chad is

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saying show us your special dongle as a penis joke.

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Speaker 1: I understand that. Yes, the real special dong on.

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Speaker 2: It's a blue retro thing here, and you just think

2334
01:51:17,039 --> 01:51:19,279
you plug, you just you just plug it, right, and yeah,

2335
01:51:19,279 --> 01:51:21,800
I mean it's big because it's like, I have no

2336
01:51:21,920 --> 01:51:24,479
idea what's so big, but you you plug it into

2337
01:51:24,520 --> 01:51:26,520
the sixty fourth thing in the front and it's, uh,

2338
01:51:27,119 --> 01:51:31,279
it's self powered so that so it doesn't need like

2339
01:51:31,279 --> 01:51:32,960
a bad or anything like that, and then it just

2340
01:51:33,079 --> 01:51:35,159
enables you to connect the Bluetooth controller to to play

2341
01:51:35,199 --> 01:51:36,079
in sixty four games.

2342
01:51:36,119 --> 01:51:37,159
Speaker 1: And it works really well.

2343
01:51:38,760 --> 01:51:41,960
Speaker 4: Because with six six base face button, yes, like a

2344
01:51:42,039 --> 01:51:43,199
really good fighting game.

2345
01:51:43,640 --> 01:51:46,239
Speaker 2: That is one of the reasons I did get this pad,

2346
01:51:46,600 --> 01:51:48,199
was like thinking, oh, it would be cool to have

2347
01:51:48,239 --> 01:51:50,920
six face buttons. They are the spacing on them is

2348
01:51:51,239 --> 01:51:54,399
a little it's hard to tell by looking. The AMB

2349
01:51:54,520 --> 01:51:56,680
button is a little bit offset from the sea buttons.

2350
01:51:56,680 --> 01:51:59,920
The sea buttons are smaller, but I can easily hit

2351
01:52:00,039 --> 01:52:03,640
at the down and A button at the same time,

2352
01:52:04,159 --> 01:52:06,439
and the left sea button and the B button at

2353
01:52:06,479 --> 01:52:08,600
the same time. So I do think that there is

2354
01:52:08,720 --> 01:52:11,119
a way in which like this can totally work as

2355
01:52:11,199 --> 01:52:12,760
a fighting game pad if I needed it to. And

2356
01:52:12,800 --> 01:52:15,359
then of course it's like ab these buttons at the

2357
01:52:15,399 --> 01:52:17,760
same time like that. For a lot of fighting games,

2358
01:52:17,760 --> 01:52:20,800
that's like a throw command that should work just fine.

2359
01:52:21,399 --> 01:52:23,319
So yeah, if I'm playing a fighting game and I

2360
01:52:23,359 --> 01:52:26,399
don't want to get a leverless stick out, I'm going

2361
01:52:26,439 --> 01:52:26,920
to be using this.

2362
01:52:27,039 --> 01:52:28,600
Speaker 1: I think. Yeah, that's cool.

2363
01:52:29,279 --> 01:52:30,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited to give it a try. Who knows

2364
01:52:31,000 --> 01:52:32,520
how how well it's gonna work, but I'm gonna give

2365
01:52:32,520 --> 01:52:35,119
it a shot. I play some Third Strike tonight.

2366
01:52:35,199 --> 01:52:38,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, she was released on you level less two fighting

2367
01:52:38,880 --> 01:52:39,760
in Yeah.

2368
01:52:40,000 --> 01:52:44,800
Speaker 2: I know I need to holler at him or send

2369
01:52:44,840 --> 01:52:49,800
it to South America. We'll see, all right, Uh, let's

2370
01:52:49,960 --> 01:52:52,000
see Jason. Anything else you want to talk about her?

2371
01:52:52,000 --> 01:52:53,119
Should we get to these super chats?

2372
01:52:53,720 --> 01:52:53,840
Speaker 5: Uh?

2373
01:52:54,159 --> 01:52:54,199
Speaker 1: No?

2374
01:52:54,840 --> 01:52:57,800
Speaker 3: Watch EVO, Watch and support evo if you like fighting games.

2375
01:52:57,880 --> 01:53:00,680
Coulda be a hell of a weekend. I know you're

2376
01:53:00,720 --> 01:53:03,119
gonna see a lot of gameplay, a lot of gameplay

2377
01:53:03,199 --> 01:53:05,199
from the people that you want to see gameplay from.

2378
01:53:05,880 --> 01:53:09,000
Of Invincible verses. They've announced Marvel to Com. We talked

2379
01:53:09,000 --> 01:53:11,199
about X two x KO is gonna be playable there.

2380
01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:15,239
I believe they said today that more No, No, that

2381
01:53:15,359 --> 01:53:19,199
wasn't that was something else. So no, Marvel to con

2382
01:53:19,279 --> 01:53:21,199
is what I was thinking about. So, yeah, if you're

2383
01:53:21,239 --> 01:53:22,960
into fighting games, make sure you're paying attention to that.

2384
01:53:23,079 --> 01:53:25,239
Sunday will be a lot of announcements, panels. Tomorrow will

2385
01:53:25,239 --> 01:53:26,960
be a lot of cool announcements too, but good gameplay

2386
01:53:27,000 --> 01:53:30,399
all weekend. Make sure you support that. But no, I

2387
01:53:30,920 --> 01:53:34,159
do want to say that I am very appreciative that

2388
01:53:34,199 --> 01:53:36,119
you allowed me to do this with you, that you

2389
01:53:36,199 --> 01:53:38,319
trusted me with it. Of course, that Mike, that Mike

2390
01:53:38,359 --> 01:53:40,880
Minatti trusted me with it. I don't know about that guy.

2391
01:53:41,279 --> 01:53:45,079
But and this whole week BombCast, this uh, the talk

2392
01:53:45,159 --> 01:53:48,600
over will do mess game mess tomorrow. It's it's been great.

2393
01:53:48,680 --> 01:53:51,680
It's been great to have this little uh, this little

2394
01:53:51,720 --> 01:53:54,000
week of Finelle week. Let's call it an official Finelle week.

2395
01:53:54,760 --> 01:53:56,960
It's been that's awesome. And the fact that you've tolerated

2396
01:53:57,000 --> 01:53:59,119
me for this long has been very impressive. I appreciate it.

2397
01:53:59,560 --> 01:54:00,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the trust is the word.

2398
01:54:01,119 --> 01:54:03,039
Speaker 2: There's I love working with all the people I work with,

2399
01:54:03,199 --> 01:54:06,399
but I'm always like, uh, Jason just gets it. I

2400
01:54:06,520 --> 01:54:08,399
trust him, so I can just be like I don't

2401
01:54:08,439 --> 01:54:09,880
Once I say hey, can you be on a show,

2402
01:54:09,880 --> 01:54:11,399
and you say yes, I don't have to think about

2403
01:54:11,399 --> 01:54:13,000
it anymore because I know you're gonna get it and

2404
01:54:13,079 --> 01:54:15,119
come in with your great stuff, So no, I really

2405
01:54:15,159 --> 01:54:18,319
appreciate it. And for people who are missing Mike, he'll

2406
01:54:18,359 --> 01:54:20,920
be back next week. I'll be back for Last than

2407
01:54:21,079 --> 01:54:24,039
Last of the Ninten Dogs and all that. I'm definitely

2408
01:54:24,119 --> 01:54:27,079
someone that out of sight, out of mind in a

2409
01:54:27,159 --> 01:54:29,439
lot of ways, it's hard for me to even like

2410
01:54:29,560 --> 01:54:32,239
miss people. Mike is in that small pocket of people

2411
01:54:32,239 --> 01:54:34,439
where it's like, you know, my wife, my kids, and

2412
01:54:34,600 --> 01:54:37,119
Mike Manatti. I miss those people when they're gone. So

2413
01:54:37,159 --> 01:54:39,439
I'll be happy to see Mike again. Looking forward to

2414
01:54:39,520 --> 01:54:44,319
it up I think, I think, I think, Yeah, that's

2415
01:54:44,439 --> 01:54:46,680
just how it is. It's like Mike's become like family

2416
01:54:46,760 --> 01:54:49,159
to me at this point. He should be home tomorrow,

2417
01:54:49,199 --> 01:54:49,960
so he might show up on.

2418
01:54:50,000 --> 01:54:52,439
Speaker 1: UPF, but we'll see. He could also be very tired

2419
01:54:52,479 --> 01:54:53,039
from traveling.

2420
01:54:53,119 --> 01:54:56,079
Speaker 3: We'll give him a break if he needs it. Uh Okay,

2421
01:54:56,520 --> 01:54:58,920
let's do the super chats. Jason Cool, I'm on it,

2422
01:54:59,439 --> 01:55:02,079
uh Rito four three three two. This is for the

2423
01:55:02,119 --> 01:55:04,119
Man of the Hour finale, holding it the F down

2424
01:55:04,199 --> 01:55:06,760
this week. Thoroughly enjoyed having you on the shows across

2425
01:55:06,840 --> 01:55:11,319
the week. Man, thank you burrito, you are delicious. Ps

2426
01:55:11,640 --> 01:55:15,640
Ford new reading the chillin by the fire description, the

2427
01:55:15,720 --> 01:55:18,319
flow of the air, the thick wait, let's start again.

2428
01:55:18,920 --> 01:55:21,479
The flow of the air, the thickness of the wood,

2429
01:55:22,079 --> 01:55:25,640
and the angle at which it's placed, all intertwined.

2430
01:55:25,960 --> 01:55:29,840
Speaker 2: This game fucks yeah, that's just one of them dirty novels.

2431
01:55:29,960 --> 01:55:31,720
The check out at the grocery store right there.

2432
01:55:32,479 --> 01:55:35,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, really, holy shit. Tim Nicholas eight five two weight,

2433
01:55:35,840 --> 01:55:38,439
Welcome to Lincoln. They appreciate you, and I appreciate you

2434
01:55:38,479 --> 01:55:41,800
for doing it tonight at Tim Nicholas eight five two

2435
01:55:41,840 --> 01:55:45,039
eight Once again, how y'all gonna leave out Charge and Chuck?

2436
01:55:45,520 --> 01:55:48,760
Speaker 2: Okay, I I kind of feel like if I would

2437
01:55:48,760 --> 01:55:50,760
have remembered charge in Chuck, I might have put him

2438
01:55:50,760 --> 01:55:53,039
on that list because I love charging Chuck that much.

2439
01:55:53,119 --> 01:55:55,079
He would be really funny to see him on that list.

2440
01:55:55,239 --> 01:55:59,319
I oh, okay, I do feel bad, Chuck. Yeah, that's

2441
01:55:59,319 --> 01:56:01,680
a that's a that's that's an omission. You are right

2442
01:56:01,720 --> 01:56:02,199
to be amadgined.

2443
01:56:02,199 --> 01:56:06,239
Speaker 1: How we missed up. We did at about that too.

2444
01:56:06,279 --> 01:56:07,920
I know he loves charging tucksta He's going to see

2445
01:56:07,920 --> 01:56:09,439
that list in yell about it. Here we go.

2446
01:56:11,680 --> 01:56:14,640
Speaker 3: At Ali Marracle to get to your sponsored an evo

2447
01:56:14,960 --> 01:56:19,439
period Penis et cetera. Uh, sponsored an evo. I have

2448
01:56:19,479 --> 01:56:22,239
to oh you know what it did. It did a

2449
01:56:22,279 --> 01:56:22,920
long time ago.

2450
01:56:22,960 --> 01:56:25,840
Speaker 1: When was that? I mean I had to game was

2451
01:56:25,880 --> 01:56:28,840
like half nine ten something like that.

2452
01:56:30,520 --> 01:56:33,359
Speaker 2: I mean I know where I was when my then

2453
01:56:33,399 --> 01:56:37,000
girlfriend now wife's roommate bought a Yaris and I was like,

2454
01:56:37,119 --> 01:56:39,000
ah that like that three sixty game.

2455
01:56:40,960 --> 01:56:44,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh and that and she was living in Italian

2456
01:56:44,439 --> 01:56:46,640
village and Columbus at the time, So that must have

2457
01:56:46,680 --> 01:56:49,880
been like nine ten or something like that. Oh ten

2458
01:56:49,920 --> 01:56:53,319
Italian nine or ten. Yeah, you have an Italian village

2459
01:56:53,319 --> 01:56:55,319
in Columbus. Oh yeah, absolutely.

2460
01:56:55,399 --> 01:56:59,199
Speaker 2: We lived right across from the Italian like Catholic church

2461
01:56:59,319 --> 01:57:02,279
and they would have a alien fest there and I

2462
01:57:02,319 --> 01:57:05,960
would walk out her front door literally walk ten steps

2463
01:57:06,079 --> 01:57:08,359
and be able to get Canoli's, like fresh Canoli's right there.

2464
01:57:08,359 --> 01:57:08,800
Speaker 1: It was great.

2465
01:57:11,000 --> 01:57:16,600
Speaker 3: That sounds amazing at Zombie pore in well, coming back in,

2466
01:57:16,680 --> 01:57:18,399
shout out Jason for killing on and everything he's been

2467
01:57:18,439 --> 01:57:21,079
on recently. He's the father who stepped up after Mike

2468
01:57:21,199 --> 01:57:22,560
left Grub for Greg Miller.

2469
01:57:23,000 --> 01:57:27,399
Speaker 1: That's right, and we now we got the daddy stepped up.

2470
01:57:27,479 --> 01:57:28,279
That's right, he went.

2471
01:57:28,359 --> 01:57:30,439
Speaker 3: He went out for milk at Disney World and never

2472
01:57:30,560 --> 01:57:34,600
came home. At Tim Nicholas eight five to eight once

2473
01:57:34,600 --> 01:57:38,000
again as an artist on Invincible check out the game.

2474
01:57:41,199 --> 01:57:47,079
That's right, Yeah, shots, that's so cool. Now is he

2475
01:57:47,079 --> 01:57:49,920
an artist on the comic just just the franchise in general?

2476
01:57:50,560 --> 01:57:52,479
Speaker 1: What I think? I think?

2477
01:57:53,239 --> 01:57:53,479
Speaker 3: Probably?

2478
01:57:53,520 --> 01:57:55,159
Speaker 1: But yeah I don't think. I don't think, yes exactly,

2479
01:57:55,199 --> 01:57:58,479
I'm not gonna blast anyone. Yes, so cool?

2480
01:57:59,520 --> 01:58:01,479
Speaker 3: And yeah, I actually I got a chance to play

2481
01:58:02,520 --> 01:58:06,239
Invincible Verses back at at some round summer game fest.

2482
01:58:06,279 --> 01:58:09,560
They actually brought me to Skybound in Beverly Hills check

2483
01:58:09,560 --> 01:58:11,520
out that game for an hour, and I liked what

2484
01:58:11,600 --> 01:58:11,880
I was.

2485
01:58:11,880 --> 01:58:12,520
Speaker 1: Seeing so far.

2486
01:58:12,640 --> 01:58:14,920
Speaker 3: So I'm curious to see how this new build will

2487
01:58:14,960 --> 01:58:18,680
be get new characters in there. And fighting games are

2488
01:58:18,800 --> 01:58:21,119
so back tag fighting games are so back.

2489
01:58:23,000 --> 01:58:23,239
Speaker 1: Again.

2490
01:58:23,439 --> 01:58:23,600
Speaker 5: I know.

2491
01:58:23,640 --> 01:58:25,600
Speaker 3: I keep talking about the storylines. I'm trying to tease

2492
01:58:25,600 --> 01:58:27,199
them for game mess, but they to keep spilling out

2493
01:58:27,239 --> 01:58:31,520
of me. The spoiling of the lead that two XKO

2494
01:58:31,680 --> 01:58:33,960
had I think is a big one. Oh yeah, two

2495
01:58:34,479 --> 01:58:36,640
they had a two three year window to get out

2496
01:58:37,439 --> 01:58:41,640
before this all happened, but Marvel Tocon completely ate its lunch,

2497
01:58:42,000 --> 01:58:44,119
and then a couple of days later, Invincible Verses like, yo,

2498
01:58:44,199 --> 01:58:49,600
I'm here too, and do not underestimate me. It's like, yeah,

2499
01:58:49,960 --> 01:58:53,119
those are The tag fighting scene is now very crowded

2500
01:58:53,199 --> 01:58:55,399
and it's awesome and I think it should just bring

2501
01:58:55,479 --> 01:58:58,680
it back Marvel versus Capcom four, let's go. Another one

2502
01:58:58,760 --> 01:59:02,319
came in from Brian x one. Why did Mike show

2503
01:59:02,359 --> 01:59:04,159
feet within two minutes of being on? Kind of funny?

2504
01:59:04,319 --> 01:59:05,000
Speaker 1: You know why?

2505
01:59:05,279 --> 01:59:07,640
Speaker 2: Because he wants to dominate wiki feed. It's been his

2506
01:59:07,720 --> 01:59:09,640
plan all along. He'll get there eventually.

2507
01:59:09,880 --> 01:59:11,239
Speaker 1: Greg Miller's gonna help him.

2508
01:59:11,119 --> 01:59:16,199
Speaker 3: Now, mikey Feet coming soon, damn it. Uh But yeah,

2509
01:59:16,520 --> 01:59:19,079
tag Fighters are back. It's it's it's really really cool

2510
01:59:19,119 --> 01:59:21,199
and and it'sible Versus is definitely up there too.

2511
01:59:21,359 --> 01:59:24,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, man, JD Cam's got one more for you,

2512
01:59:26,439 --> 01:59:29,359
says Finelle. Jeff hates pasta. That's not how I would

2513
01:59:29,520 --> 01:59:31,640
frame it. I don't hate pasta.

2514
01:59:31,760 --> 01:59:34,680
Speaker 1: I just don't like. It's not like my go to food.

2515
01:59:34,840 --> 01:59:38,199
Speaker 2: I've had good pasta before and I've enjoyed it, but

2516
01:59:38,399 --> 01:59:42,039
usually like I I don't I don't like creamy pastas.

2517
01:59:42,119 --> 01:59:43,880
Speaker 1: I like the you know, the red sauce and stuff

2518
01:59:43,920 --> 01:59:44,640
like that. That's good.

2519
01:59:44,960 --> 01:59:47,399
Speaker 2: Anything with a lot of spice is gonna win me over.

2520
01:59:47,680 --> 01:59:49,880
And not just hot spice, a lot of flavor. That'll

2521
01:59:49,960 --> 01:59:52,279
that'll be fine for me. It's just typically I get

2522
01:59:52,279 --> 01:59:53,920
a lot of bland Italian food around me.

2523
01:59:54,880 --> 01:59:57,199
Speaker 3: Okay, well then we just have to show you real

2524
01:59:57,199 --> 01:59:57,800
it talent food.

2525
01:59:58,720 --> 02:00:00,800
Speaker 1: And I've always welcome this. I do welcome this. Now.

2526
02:00:00,880 --> 02:00:02,399
Speaker 2: This did happen one time when we were in La

2527
02:00:02,479 --> 02:00:03,840
We went to this restaurant had a bunch of great

2528
02:00:03,880 --> 02:00:05,880
foods and they're like, we're gonna get this thing off

2529
02:00:05,920 --> 02:00:08,279
the menu and it's gonna be this Italian dish and

2530
02:00:08,479 --> 02:00:10,159
we got all this awesome food and everyone's like, grub,

2531
02:00:10,199 --> 02:00:11,399
you gotta try this. I tried it and it was

2532
02:00:11,520 --> 02:00:15,840
my least favorite thing that I ate that night. But listen,

2533
02:00:15,920 --> 02:00:17,720
you weren't my shirtpa on that. I trust you more

2534
02:00:17,760 --> 02:00:18,760
than those chuckle books.

2535
02:00:18,880 --> 02:00:24,399
Speaker 3: So yeah, we got That is the second worst Italian

2536
02:00:24,439 --> 02:00:26,760
related crime that's happened to me this week. The first one,

2537
02:00:27,399 --> 02:00:29,359
if you look in the comments, is the comments of

2538
02:00:29,399 --> 02:00:32,560
the BombCast or the live chat of maybe this morning,

2539
02:00:33,039 --> 02:00:38,920
someone called me Jesse Vittelli and then and then someone

2540
02:00:39,039 --> 02:00:41,680
corrected them and said, no, it's Jason Vittelli. And I'm

2541
02:00:41,680 --> 02:00:47,800
like the boy, you're right there, all right. I think

2542
02:00:47,840 --> 02:00:51,359
we're all caught up in super chats. Now that said,

2543
02:00:51,479 --> 02:00:55,079
you know, I'm fried. That was the fourteen hour day.

2544
02:00:55,159 --> 02:00:57,960
Something like that was longer than that. It's a big

2545
02:00:58,079 --> 02:00:59,600
long day. So what we're gonna do now is I'm

2546
02:00:59,600 --> 02:01:00,399
gonna hit this music.

2547
02:01:01,960 --> 02:01:04,439
Speaker 4: I just got an idea for people who wants to

2548
02:01:04,479 --> 02:01:08,159
watch evil. I'm gonna link Jason's article on that on

2549
02:01:08,279 --> 02:01:08,960
the video.

2550
02:01:08,800 --> 02:01:11,279
Speaker 3: And yeah, good idea.

2551
02:01:11,359 --> 02:01:13,359
Speaker 1: Put that into the description please in the episode notes.

2552
02:01:13,399 --> 02:01:14,079
I appreciate that.

2553
02:01:14,800 --> 02:01:17,119
Speaker 2: Jason Fonelli, thank you so much for hanging out with me.

2554
02:01:17,159 --> 02:01:18,760
Tell people where they can find you on the internet

2555
02:01:18,760 --> 02:01:19,560
and all that good stuff.

2556
02:01:20,039 --> 02:01:23,479
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm on Blue Sky at Jasonfanelli dot com, very easy,

2557
02:01:23,680 --> 02:01:30,199
big Man Finelle everywhere Else it's mostly video games, professional wrestling, Philadelphia,

2558
02:01:30,239 --> 02:01:32,760
sports magic, the gathering, and cute pictures of my kids

2559
02:01:32,800 --> 02:01:35,239
and wife doing fun family things. So if you like

2560
02:01:35,399 --> 02:01:37,800
all of that stuff, that's what you will find on

2561
02:01:37,880 --> 02:01:40,640
my social media as I try to make people laugh,

2562
02:01:40,720 --> 02:01:43,239
trying to make people smile, try to be a good overall.

2563
02:01:43,680 --> 02:01:45,319
You know, there's enough shit on the Internet, you don't

2564
02:01:45,319 --> 02:01:46,800
need it from me. I'll try to make it a

2565
02:01:46,880 --> 02:01:49,800
little happier game spot. I do a lot of writing

2566
02:01:49,840 --> 02:01:53,640
there MMRPG as well. Shout out to Joe Bradford, great

2567
02:01:53,720 --> 02:01:58,399
dude over there. Yeah, I mean, it's just doing the

2568
02:01:58,439 --> 02:02:00,479
work man, Like you said, long days, but well worth it.

2569
02:02:01,600 --> 02:02:03,399
My name is not Jackson Vacilly.

2570
02:02:05,520 --> 02:02:08,520
Speaker 2: But yeah, Michael Vick would use when he's getting tested

2571
02:02:08,600 --> 02:02:09,640
for venereal disease.

2572
02:02:10,279 --> 02:02:11,600
Speaker 1: My name is Jackson Vasili.

2573
02:02:12,479 --> 02:02:14,359
Speaker 3: I just want to echo one more time my appreciation

2574
02:02:14,479 --> 02:02:17,199
for you having me on here. It was great fun

2575
02:02:17,560 --> 02:02:19,640
and I'm cheers mate.

2576
02:02:20,119 --> 02:02:22,720
Speaker 1: Yep. Likewise, dude, I appreciate it, love having you on.

2577
02:02:22,800 --> 02:02:25,199
Speaker 2: We're gonna yep, we'll finish out the week of Games

2578
02:02:25,319 --> 02:02:28,520
Mornings with you tomorrow. Looking forward to that. Uh and

2579
02:02:28,600 --> 02:02:30,079
thanks so way back to normal next week, but we're

2580
02:02:30,079 --> 02:02:31,800
still gonna have plenty of Jason on in the future.

2581
02:02:31,840 --> 02:02:34,920
Everybody look out for that. Okay, let's see a couple

2582
02:02:34,960 --> 02:02:37,840
of things. Christian, is there a community game happening this week?

2583
02:02:37,880 --> 02:02:39,520
I haven't had a chance to check into that. They

2584
02:02:39,800 --> 02:02:41,319
did peak last week, and I had a good time

2585
02:02:41,359 --> 02:02:41,479
with that.

2586
02:02:41,600 --> 02:02:44,600
Speaker 4: I know, Pik was awesome. We had a lot of

2587
02:02:44,680 --> 02:02:47,439
time and we yeah, we're doing peak again.

2588
02:02:48,399 --> 02:02:49,479
Speaker 1: Okay, fantastic.

2589
02:02:49,680 --> 02:02:52,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what it's gonna be to be even

2590
02:02:52,319 --> 02:02:54,279
better This week they added cannibalism.

2591
02:02:55,359 --> 02:02:59,279
Speaker 4: It's gonna gonna don't don't.

2592
02:02:59,439 --> 02:03:01,560
Speaker 1: Keep that on the download everybody. I'm gonna try to

2593
02:03:01,600 --> 02:03:04,279
make Giant Bomb play it again and we'll surprise them

2594
02:03:04,319 --> 02:03:07,399
with that. All right, everyone keep it quiet, all right,

2595
02:03:07,600 --> 02:03:08,680
all right, we're gonna get out of here. I have

2596
02:03:08,720 --> 02:03:13,720
a good one. Take care of yourself. Goodbye. This is

2597
02:03:13,760 --> 02:03:44,319
so good. Enjoy your gaming.

2598
02:03:49,079 --> 02:03:51,520
Speaker 4: For so long have fantasized about sucking their own dick.

2599
02:03:54,840 --> 02:03:56,880
Speaker 1: All right, we're out after that. That's good.

2600
02:03:57,640 --> 02:04:03,560
Speaker 4: It call your congressman.

2601
02:04:05,079 --> 02:04:06,640
Speaker 1: Ship. That's true.

2602
02:04:06,960 --> 02:04:07,359
Speaker 6: My god.

2603
02:04:07,680 --> 02:04:11,720
Speaker 4: I read on Blueski that apparently writing letters is really

2604
02:04:11,760 --> 02:04:12,880
good too, because.

2605
02:04:13,039 --> 02:04:16,119
Speaker 1: Yes, writing letters to congress people works, yes, that, but

2606
02:04:16,319 --> 02:04:17,319
to the to.

2607
02:04:17,399 --> 02:04:20,960
Speaker 4: The banks and to the payment press because they're like

2608
02:04:21,039 --> 02:04:23,880
financial institutions, they need to whenever they receive a letter,

2609
02:04:24,000 --> 02:04:27,000
they have to like, oh right, have a bunch of

2610
02:04:27,960 --> 02:04:30,359
like they have a bunch of stuff they had to

2611
02:04:30,439 --> 02:04:32,960
do with those letters to make it so it's like yeah,

2612
02:04:33,000 --> 02:04:35,399
we knowledge and stuff.

2613
02:04:35,640 --> 02:04:38,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, interesting, okay, cool goodness?

2614
02:04:39,319 --> 02:04:42,239
Speaker 3: Hey, real quick, the super chats? Have they been being collected?

2615
02:04:42,359 --> 02:04:43,119
Was I supposed to do that?

2616
02:04:43,279 --> 02:04:44,680
Speaker 1: Or I got them?

2617
02:04:44,680 --> 02:04:46,640
Speaker 2: I'll read them because otherwise it'll be difficult for you

2618
02:04:46,920 --> 02:04:49,199
for you to read them, uh, the wrong one if

2619
02:04:49,199 --> 02:04:50,680
you want to spot for me in the back end.

2620
02:04:52,079 --> 02:04:53,880
Speaker 3: If they're in if you want to copy some over

2621
02:04:54,000 --> 02:04:54,920
so I can, I can split some.

2622
02:04:55,039 --> 02:04:59,000
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter, Yeah, I could.

2623
02:04:59,479 --> 02:05:01,279
Speaker 4: We can't make it if you if we may hit

2624
02:05:01,359 --> 02:05:04,279
him my mod here in the chat, we can choose Okay,

2625
02:05:04,680 --> 02:05:05,159
does that work?

2626
02:05:05,239 --> 02:05:08,039
Speaker 1: Okay, let me see here chat. Are you go ahead

2627
02:05:08,039 --> 02:05:13,399
and type something in chat Jason? They yeah, that's the

2628
02:05:13,399 --> 02:05:13,920
way to do it.

2629
02:05:15,800 --> 02:05:19,600
Speaker 4: No, no, no something No there we go perfect perfect?

2630
02:05:19,800 --> 02:05:20,000
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2631
02:05:20,600 --> 02:05:25,520
Speaker 4: Him, him and mom. Then maybe reload the page.

2632
02:05:28,039 --> 02:05:30,920
Speaker 1: The pagip Okay, I just I just made you moderated,

2633
02:05:30,960 --> 02:05:32,079
though you might have to reload it again.

2634
02:05:32,640 --> 02:05:40,479
Speaker 3: That's okay, up on more time. Boom, all right, I

2635
02:05:40,640 --> 02:05:43,039
see subscribers only mode.

2636
02:05:43,760 --> 02:05:46,800
Speaker 4: Where would go to the top of the chat. When

2637
02:05:46,800 --> 02:05:49,640
you says top chat, you can go to fun funding.

2638
02:05:50,640 --> 02:05:51,840
Speaker 3: Yep, I see that.

2639
02:05:52,119 --> 02:05:52,479
Speaker 1: Oh cool.

2640
02:05:52,560 --> 02:05:55,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, you scroll the way up and you got about

2641
02:05:55,720 --> 02:05:58,039
the first one I see is from Big Fresh thirty seven.

2642
02:05:58,640 --> 02:06:01,039
Speaker 1: I got got it, all right, fantastic, wonderful.

2643
02:06:01,079 --> 02:06:02,760
Speaker 3: I can take that if you want to problem, let's

2644
02:06:02,760 --> 02:06:03,720
do it. Thank you.

2645
02:06:04,119 --> 02:06:07,399
Speaker 1: That sounds great. All right. I'm gonna bring us back

2646
02:06:07,399 --> 02:06:19,399
if you boys are ready. Yeah, okay, great, cru all right,

2647
02:06:19,439 --> 02:06:22,279
I'm looking at you managing projects. One of the chat sets,

2648
02:06:24,239 --> 02:06:26,000
parsk makes it very doable, grub chuck.

2649
02:06:26,079 --> 02:06:28,319
Speaker 2: You know how I'm feeling about parsek right now. Keeps

2650
02:06:28,359 --> 02:06:30,800
breaking on me and now it's my computer's fault.

2651
02:06:30,840 --> 02:06:32,079
Speaker 1: But we'll see.

2652
02:06:33,439 --> 02:06:37,319
Speaker 4: Oh all right, you want to set up the podcast

2653
02:06:37,399 --> 02:06:38,800
producers and contributions.

2654
02:06:38,920 --> 02:06:40,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got it. It was kind of

2655
02:06:40,359 --> 02:06:42,119
getting it all set up in the background a little bit.

2656
02:06:42,159 --> 02:06:44,520
I just got to actually bring it into the scene.

2657
02:06:44,720 --> 02:06:46,159
Let me make sure the tab is media.

2658
02:06:47,640 --> 02:06:50,880
Speaker 3: Yep, we're getting oh man, pat Man six eighty three

2659
02:06:51,039 --> 02:06:53,760
Level ten Campfire. Yeah, but I'm jealous.

2660
02:06:54,439 --> 02:06:56,359
Speaker 1: I know. I I want to have time to play

2661
02:06:56,399 --> 02:06:59,520
that game. I could just I could just force that

2662
02:06:59,600 --> 02:07:00,399
onto you have this.

2663
02:07:00,439 --> 02:07:04,680
Speaker 3: Week to fireside chat ups.

2664
02:07:04,920 --> 02:07:09,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's too good. Okay, game game game game is

2665
02:07:09,199 --> 02:07:15,039
going to be this yes, this opera window. Okay, Big

2666
02:07:15,079 --> 02:07:23,000
for a second, tell you what is happening in my

2667
02:07:23,079 --> 02:07:25,000
house right now? Christian Is. I don't know if you've

2668
02:07:25,000 --> 02:07:26,880
actually seen this movie. Maybe you have. At this point,

2669
02:07:27,680 --> 02:07:31,680
my kid will not stop singing U the soundtrack to

2670
02:07:32,119 --> 02:07:33,119
K Pop Demon Hunter.

2671
02:07:33,600 --> 02:07:37,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's just like to herself, and she's got like

2672
02:07:38,000 --> 02:07:40,680
a really good voice. Like she's a much better singer

2673
02:07:40,720 --> 02:07:42,279
than I am in terms of like keeping a tune.

2674
02:07:42,560 --> 02:07:44,159
And so it's like, oh, this is like pleasant to

2675
02:07:44,239 --> 02:07:44,800
hear her singing.

2676
02:07:44,920 --> 02:07:46,079
Speaker 1: This so pretty good.

2677
02:07:47,640 --> 02:07:49,359
Speaker 3: You know, my kids running around the house singing.

2678
02:07:50,000 --> 02:07:50,279
Speaker 1: What's that?

2679
02:07:50,640 --> 02:07:51,680
Speaker 3: Would like to hear it?

2680
02:07:52,560 --> 02:08:00,279
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, please? Oh Zebra, that's playing on my head? One?

2681
02:08:01,520 --> 02:08:04,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, god, it's so good. That song is so good.

2682
02:08:05,119 --> 02:08:07,520
That's that's the five bonanzas, but the second best song

2683
02:08:07,600 --> 02:08:09,239
in the game. And I will not spoil the first one,

2684
02:08:09,279 --> 02:08:10,239
you know what I'm talking about?

2685
02:08:10,720 --> 02:08:14,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, uh man, that's yeah, it's an all right,

2686
02:08:14,880 --> 02:08:19,520
and I think it's pretty okay. I need to Okay,

2687
02:08:20,520 --> 02:08:22,199
let's see here there's that.

2688
02:08:22,560 --> 02:08:24,199
Speaker 1: Let me just make sure I have it so I

2689
02:08:24,279 --> 02:08:28,960
can scroll. Okay, I'll try to do that post coming

2690
02:08:29,039 --> 02:08:34,000
back here we go. Oh, that's actually you know what,

2691
02:08:34,119 --> 02:08:36,279
let me get a drive thing up in the sheets

2692
02:08:36,319 --> 02:08:41,399
as well, drive sheets, drive sheets, I get that.

2693
02:08:42,000 --> 02:08:44,960
Speaker 4: Get that open g X baby, that game of browser

2694
02:08:45,119 --> 02:08:46,000
going on, that's what.

2695
02:08:46,039 --> 02:08:51,279
Speaker 2: I want browsers here to save our lives, thankfully. Okay,

2696
02:08:51,479 --> 02:08:52,680
let me kind of frame it up.

2697
02:08:52,600 --> 02:08:55,319
Speaker 3: A little bit better than I'm gonna be sol saying

2698
02:08:55,359 --> 02:08:57,479
the rest of the night. Sorry, guys, I shouldn't have

2699
02:08:57,479 --> 02:08:57,720
done that.

2700
02:08:59,119 --> 02:09:01,359
Speaker 4: I watch a little anime. We have the subs.

2701
02:09:03,760 --> 02:09:04,680
Speaker 1: What's that? What does that mean?

2702
02:09:05,359 --> 02:09:06,880
Speaker 4: I'm practicing Japanese?

2703
02:09:07,399 --> 02:09:12,159
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, okay, cool, But I just.

2704
02:09:12,239 --> 02:09:17,640
Speaker 4: After thirty five years, I decided to finally learn the

2705
02:09:17,720 --> 02:09:20,119
language of the stuff that I watch the most, which

2706
02:09:20,159 --> 02:09:22,560
is anime, which is you know, maybe it's a long

2707
02:09:22,680 --> 02:09:23,439
time common.

2708
02:09:26,680 --> 02:09:27,760
Speaker 3: What do you like right now, Christian?

2709
02:09:28,760 --> 02:09:32,239
Speaker 4: Right now I'm watching It's pretty dark stuff, but it's

2710
02:09:32,319 --> 02:09:36,159
a Copies original scene is like a really sad anime.

2711
02:09:36,399 --> 02:09:40,159
I wouldn't recommend that to people if you like. And yeah,

2712
02:09:40,840 --> 02:09:43,439
the Summer U Dies I really like that, and the

2713
02:09:43,880 --> 02:09:46,279
usually like the big stuff like Dan the Dank Issue

2714
02:09:46,359 --> 02:09:50,960
number eight, that stuff. But yeah, I'm a fucking.

2715
02:09:50,680 --> 02:09:53,960
Speaker 1: Okay, that's right. Let's bring it back. I'm good to

2716
02:09:54,039 --> 02:09:56,079
go over here, all right.

2717
02:09:57,319 --> 02:10:01,199
Speaker 4: All right? Bringing back what is going on in oay,

2718
02:10:01,279 --> 02:10:01,800
bring it back.

2719
02:10:02,279 --> 02:10:09,359
Speaker 5: Mhm, little break all right when you need to use

2720
02:10:09,439 --> 02:10:15,399
the party win a roll dog, all right, how dogging it.

2721
02:10:15,479 --> 02:10:17,199
Speaker 3: Is, broll dog.

2722
02:10:19,680 --> 02:10:22,600
Speaker 1: There it is there, it is there, It is all right.

2723
02:10:23,720 --> 02:10:24,079
We are.

2724
02:10:25,800 --> 02:10:27,920
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, you could just go away. We wouldn't notice it,

2725
02:10:30,399 --> 02:10:32,000
all right. I think we're ready to get back into it.

2726
02:10:32,039 --> 02:10:32,920
You guys ready, Let's do it.

2727
02:10:33,199 --> 02:10:35,800
Speaker 3: Let's do it. Beef tank

