WEBVTT 1 00:00:10.759 --> 00:00:13.800 Hello everyone, Welcome back to a new episode of the 2 00:00:14.000 --> 00:00:17.920 Poker Go Podcast. My name is Donnie Peters. His name 3 00:00:18.280 --> 00:00:24.920 is Tim Duckworth. It is Sunday evening, December twenty seconds, 4 00:00:24.960 --> 00:00:30.440 and we had a pretty big show today. Two big series, 5 00:00:30.440 --> 00:00:33.840 well three big series in December wrapped up, or at 6 00:00:33.920 --> 00:00:36.600 least two of the three wrapped up. One I think 7 00:00:36.719 --> 00:00:39.600 is still in the very very taal end of things, 8 00:00:39.679 --> 00:00:44.000 and those are of course WISP Paradise, WPT World Championship, 9 00:00:44.439 --> 00:00:47.759 and EPT Prague. Tim and I are going to hit 10 00:00:47.840 --> 00:00:52.039 on those three series. Then in a few days we're 11 00:00:52.079 --> 00:00:54.640 gonna have another episode for you guys where we hit 12 00:00:54.679 --> 00:00:58.280 on some of the latest PGT stuff as we lead 13 00:00:58.320 --> 00:01:03.719 into the PGT Last Ants Series and PGT Championship. Busy 14 00:01:03.840 --> 00:01:07.159 couple days here, I guess, in the final days of 15 00:01:07.439 --> 00:01:10.599 twenty twenty four. But how are you, sir? How you doing? 16 00:01:10.719 --> 00:01:12.439 I feel like it's been a while since we've been 17 00:01:12.480 --> 00:01:13.560 on a podcast together. 18 00:01:14.120 --> 00:01:18.359 It has been a very long time, but good. I'm 19 00:01:18.400 --> 00:01:22.120 looking forward to getting through Christmas. I mean, you know 20 00:01:22.159 --> 00:01:25.959 how it is with kids, just getting through getting through Christmas, 21 00:01:26.079 --> 00:01:27.920 you know, because I feel like, once you. 22 00:01:27.959 --> 00:01:31.120 Own I'm literally by the way surrounded by presence, Like 23 00:01:31.239 --> 00:01:33.680 I can't like move my chair in my office. There's 24 00:01:33.760 --> 00:01:37.000 presence everywhere. Some reason, my wife decided to wrap them 25 00:01:37.000 --> 00:01:38.519 and just like leave them around me. 26 00:01:39.480 --> 00:01:42.840 Okay, I just feel like once the presents of open 27 00:01:42.959 --> 00:01:46.439 Christmas lunch has had, you can start ripping down decorations 28 00:01:46.480 --> 00:01:49.760 and like get ready for the new year. That's the 29 00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:53.760 bit I like, to be honest, ready for the new year. 30 00:01:55.280 --> 00:01:57.200 I mean, I'm not in charge of any of the decorations, 31 00:01:57.280 --> 00:01:58.519 So do. 32 00:01:58.480 --> 00:01:59.920 You put up any anything else? 33 00:02:00.680 --> 00:02:03.560 No? Not really, I mean whatever my wife asked me 34 00:02:03.599 --> 00:02:05.760 to help with, yes, but I tend to just leave 35 00:02:05.799 --> 00:02:09.800 her in charge of the decorations for all holidays. That's 36 00:02:09.840 --> 00:02:16.199 her jam. She can do whatever she wants and whatnot. Obviously, 37 00:02:16.280 --> 00:02:18.840 if if I need to, you know, do some some 38 00:02:18.879 --> 00:02:20.520 stuff that she can't do or that she doesn't want 39 00:02:20.560 --> 00:02:22.400 to do or whatever, I'm happy to help out. But 40 00:02:22.520 --> 00:02:25.080 other than that, it's it's her jam. Like this year, 41 00:02:25.360 --> 00:02:27.680 I mean, we don't. We never really put lights outside, 42 00:02:27.719 --> 00:02:30.599 like a lot of lights, just because it's a it's 43 00:02:30.599 --> 00:02:32.639 a hassle to put them in the house and you 44 00:02:32.680 --> 00:02:34.680 know whatever, So we never did it. And then I 45 00:02:34.680 --> 00:02:38.280 came home one day and there's just lights all over 46 00:02:38.360 --> 00:02:40.599 the place. But she had like those ones that she 47 00:02:40.639 --> 00:02:42.400 got them from her parents and they're the ones that 48 00:02:42.439 --> 00:02:44.960 you just put over bushes in the front of ardor what. 49 00:02:45.199 --> 00:02:47.919 So nothing's like, you know, nailed their stable to the 50 00:02:47.919 --> 00:02:50.319 house or anything like that. But I was surprised when 51 00:02:50.360 --> 00:02:52.919 I turned the corner and we have a house red 52 00:02:52.960 --> 00:02:54.719 on the corner, and I was like, what the hell, 53 00:02:55.280 --> 00:02:57.159 what are all these lights? What the hell is going on? 54 00:02:57.240 --> 00:03:01.280 But but yeah, so I guess that's our new thing 55 00:03:01.280 --> 00:03:05.360 for this year. But it is that time of year. 56 00:03:05.439 --> 00:03:05.759 All right. 57 00:03:05.800 --> 00:03:08.639 So as I said, WSP Paradise, WPT World Championship in 58 00:03:08.680 --> 00:03:12.240 ept progue. First things first, of course, do need to 59 00:03:12.319 --> 00:03:14.439 thank our sponsors, and we got a brand new one 60 00:03:14.599 --> 00:03:16.280 and it's I mean, I guess it's not really a 61 00:03:16.319 --> 00:03:20.479 sponsor more so as it is a new offering from 62 00:03:21.080 --> 00:03:24.680 poker Go, and that is play poker Go. 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I think I just based 90 00:05:00.879 --> 00:05:03.439 it off of the fact that first place prize won 91 00:05:03.439 --> 00:05:06.160 in each main event was the biggest for Paradise, second 92 00:05:06.160 --> 00:05:09.279 biggest for World Championship, third biggest for Prague. So that's 93 00:05:09.480 --> 00:05:12.360 the order I went with. Don't read into it much 94 00:05:12.399 --> 00:05:14.279 more than that. It's just how we're going to be 95 00:05:14.279 --> 00:05:18.920 talking about things. SOUBSB Paradise, of course, the uh I 96 00:05:18.920 --> 00:05:22.680 Guess Monstrous Series out of the Bahamas Atlantis down in 97 00:05:22.720 --> 00:05:26.279 the Bahamas. The headlining event, of course, was the twenty 98 00:05:26.439 --> 00:05:30.639 five thousand dollars buying Super Main Event. I always want 99 00:05:30.680 --> 00:05:33.040 to say super duper main event. They should just really 100 00:05:33.040 --> 00:05:34.480 put the duper in there. If they're going to put 101 00:05:34.480 --> 00:05:37.560 the super in there, why not. This one had a 102 00:05:37.720 --> 00:05:42.160 fifty million dollars guarantee. That missed. That missed. Did you 103 00:05:42.199 --> 00:05:43.920 say it would miss did I? I can't remember what 104 00:05:43.920 --> 00:05:47.720 we can't remember what we predicted. It got close, though. 105 00:05:48.639 --> 00:05:52.399 Total of nineteen hundred and seventy eight entries, thirteen hundred 106 00:05:52.399 --> 00:05:55.519 and seventy eight of those entries came from the live 107 00:05:55.759 --> 00:05:59.480 portion of the series, six hundred came from the online 108 00:05:59.600 --> 00:06:02.839 portion of the series, so nineteen hundred and seventy eight entries. 109 00:06:02.879 --> 00:06:06.759 The overlay was five hundred and fifty thousand dollars. It 110 00:06:06.839 --> 00:06:08.879 looked like, or at least there was a lot of 111 00:06:08.959 --> 00:06:11.399 talk out there on social media that the overlay was 112 00:06:11.439 --> 00:06:14.240 going to be much worse than it ended up being. 113 00:06:15.399 --> 00:06:18.160 You know, people were talking about multiple millions of dollars 114 00:06:18.160 --> 00:06:20.959 of overlay. It obviously did not amount to that in 115 00:06:21.040 --> 00:06:23.839 the end. I will say that I think there's a 116 00:06:23.879 --> 00:06:26.800 fair amount of skepticism out there, just the fact that 117 00:06:26.839 --> 00:06:30.439 the online qualifiers or the online entries. I thought I 118 00:06:30.439 --> 00:06:32.360 saw it was like five twenty or something, then all 119 00:06:32.360 --> 00:06:34.399 of a sudden it was six hundred. So I'm just 120 00:06:34.480 --> 00:06:36.360 kind of like, I have no idea what it is. 121 00:06:36.519 --> 00:06:39.759 But nevertheless, they came close five hundred and fifty k 122 00:06:39.920 --> 00:06:42.560 of overlay, which is good for anyone that played in 123 00:06:42.600 --> 00:06:47.199 the field. Winning it All. China's Yanan Zoo wins it 124 00:06:47.240 --> 00:06:52.360 All for six million dollars. Hello, that is a hefty 125 00:06:52.480 --> 00:06:56.759 chunk of change. He defeated Brazil's Marcelo Aziz Junior in 126 00:06:56.839 --> 00:06:59.720 heads up play. Aziz took home four point six million 127 00:06:59.720 --> 00:07:02.360 dollars from a free roll. I guess he got in 128 00:07:02.360 --> 00:07:04.920 from a free roll on Gigi Poker. Then went on 129 00:07:05.000 --> 00:07:07.480 to finish in second place for four point six million dollars, 130 00:07:07.480 --> 00:07:11.480 which is absolutely insane. Mastapha Kanet third place for three 131 00:07:11.480 --> 00:07:14.199 point six million, Live Beree, she was back on the 132 00:07:14.279 --> 00:07:17.199 felt don't see her much these days in the poker sphere, 133 00:07:17.199 --> 00:07:19.319 but she was back and she finished in fourth place 134 00:07:19.360 --> 00:07:22.240 for two point eight million. Christopher Win two point one 135 00:07:22.240 --> 00:07:25.319 million for his fifth place finish. Michael Adamo, your boy, Sir, 136 00:07:25.759 --> 00:07:29.399 Kangaroo Crew, he has he has returned. I mean, we 137 00:07:29.439 --> 00:07:31.879 haven't seen that guy in forever, I feel like, but 138 00:07:31.959 --> 00:07:33.480 he was back and he was doing his thing. He 139 00:07:33.519 --> 00:07:35.839 finished in sixth place for one point sixty five million. 140 00:07:35.959 --> 00:07:38.920 Justin Bonomo. We're going to get into a little controversy 141 00:07:38.920 --> 00:07:41.319 that surrounded justin Monomo. He finished in seventh place for 142 00:07:41.399 --> 00:07:45.839 one point three million. Badim Lapuka Lapaca, I'm probably butchering 143 00:07:45.839 --> 00:07:46.160 that name. 144 00:07:46.199 --> 00:07:46.399 Sorry. 145 00:07:46.480 --> 00:07:48.800 Vidin one million dollars for eighth place, and then George 146 00:07:48.920 --> 00:07:52.279 Lehman seven hundred and fifty k for ninth place. Do 147 00:07:52.279 --> 00:07:54.759 you want to mention. Tenth place finisher was none other 148 00:07:54.839 --> 00:08:00.480 than Chris Moneymaker five hundred K for mister money Maker, 149 00:08:00.879 --> 00:08:04.519 which is pretty incredible. But listen, we have to give 150 00:08:04.560 --> 00:08:07.839 our flowers to Zo, the twenty four year old champion. 151 00:08:08.040 --> 00:08:12.480 He started playing online, according to what I was reading online, 152 00:08:12.600 --> 00:08:15.959 mostly from pokernews dot com, started playing online when he 153 00:08:16.040 --> 00:08:19.000 was eighteen years old. So he claimed to have played 154 00:08:19.279 --> 00:08:24.199 millions of hands online, both cash games and tournaments. From 155 00:08:24.240 --> 00:08:28.040 watching the live stream, I watched a bit of the 156 00:08:28.079 --> 00:08:32.080 stuff that was happening both WPT and Paradise as much 157 00:08:32.080 --> 00:08:35.600 as I could. Zoo looked the part, played the part. 158 00:08:35.679 --> 00:08:39.879 He pulled this crazy, wild bluff against Michael o'damo, which 159 00:08:40.360 --> 00:08:42.759 it was an incredible bluff. Yes, I think it was 160 00:08:44.000 --> 00:08:46.840 even better or got a little bit more shine in 161 00:08:46.919 --> 00:08:49.840 the spotlight because it was against a domo, and normally 162 00:08:49.879 --> 00:08:52.720 it's a domo who's pulling these crazy bluffs, right, So 163 00:08:52.759 --> 00:08:57.039 I guess just quickly on that hand, between Adamo and Zoo, 164 00:08:57.159 --> 00:08:59.440 the blinds were two million, four million, which is just 165 00:08:59.639 --> 00:09:02.559 freaking wild to even say. Under the gun Zou race 166 00:09:02.600 --> 00:09:05.720 to eight million. He had ace jack off. Adamo defended 167 00:09:05.720 --> 00:09:07.639 from the big line with ace ten off. It came 168 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:10.200 ten to seven to four with two clubs tennis spade 169 00:09:10.240 --> 00:09:13.879 seven club's four clubs. Adamo checked zou bet six million, 170 00:09:13.879 --> 00:09:17.799 which was just over twenty percent pot. Adamo made the call, 171 00:09:17.879 --> 00:09:20.799 turns the nine of hearts. Adamo decides to lead for 172 00:09:20.879 --> 00:09:23.759 what was just over twenty percent pot eight point five million. 173 00:09:24.399 --> 00:09:27.360 Zao opts to raise with his ace high to twenty million. 174 00:09:27.360 --> 00:09:29.519 Adamo makes the call. Domo does have the best hand. 175 00:09:29.519 --> 00:09:32.879 He did flop that top hair, top kicker. River is 176 00:09:32.919 --> 00:09:36.320 the queen of diamonds. Adamo goes for a check. Zoo 177 00:09:36.919 --> 00:09:39.399 goes for it forty seven and a half million, which 178 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:43.960 is seventy percent of the pot. Adamo folds And that 179 00:09:44.200 --> 00:09:47.559 was the bluff heard round the world, at least for December, 180 00:09:47.679 --> 00:09:49.720 because I'm sure we'll have another one coming up soon. 181 00:09:49.759 --> 00:09:54.240 But that was really kind of the I guess coming 182 00:09:54.240 --> 00:09:56.440 out party for Zo. It in a way like, Hey, 183 00:09:56.559 --> 00:09:58.639 I'm here to win, I'm here to go up against 184 00:09:58.639 --> 00:10:00.879 the best. It doesn't matter that this is Michael O'damo. 185 00:10:01.320 --> 00:10:03.120 You know, he's the crazy guy who puts players in 186 00:10:03.120 --> 00:10:04.960 tough spots. I'm gonna put him in a tough spot. 187 00:10:05.039 --> 00:10:08.639 And it ultimately worked out. What did you think about 188 00:10:09.200 --> 00:10:11.120 Zoo's play or this bluff anything. 189 00:10:12.679 --> 00:10:15.200 He's just he's just lost it. He's just not good anymore. 190 00:10:15.200 --> 00:10:17.200 Obviously, you know, he used to be the greatest in 191 00:10:17.240 --> 00:10:19.320 the world, and he's just he's falling apart on the 192 00:10:19.320 --> 00:10:22.919 world's biggest stage. He's just it's just disrespectful to the 193 00:10:22.960 --> 00:10:24.799 Australian flag, is what I have to say. 194 00:10:24.919 --> 00:10:27.360 So, I mean, you want to talk about falling apart 195 00:10:27.360 --> 00:10:31.360 in the world's biggest How about Tony Parker? 196 00:10:32.799 --> 00:10:35.360 Oh yeah, that I mean that was. 197 00:10:36.559 --> 00:10:40.360 NBA Legend of the San Antonio Spurs. He's down. 198 00:10:42.360 --> 00:10:44.480 Did he play with the Charlotte season He's last season? 199 00:10:45.120 --> 00:10:52.600 Okay, that's so he gets in a hand with was 200 00:10:52.639 --> 00:10:57.240 it bow Ding? It was early in the event, or 201 00:10:57.279 --> 00:11:00.399 at least earlier in the event. Ding opens with the 202 00:11:00.440 --> 00:11:02.320 min rais. I think the blinds were eight sixteen. He 203 00:11:02.399 --> 00:11:06.080 made it thirty two K, folds over to Parker, who 204 00:11:06.120 --> 00:11:08.840 has pocket kings. He makes it sixty four K, so 205 00:11:09.000 --> 00:11:13.000 essentially a click, it goes back over to Ding. He 206 00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:15.200 jams Ace Queen. I can't remember if it was suited 207 00:11:15.279 --> 00:11:18.840 or offsuit, but nonetheless he jams Ace Queen Parker tanks 208 00:11:18.879 --> 00:11:23.000 forever and folds the kings, just an absolutely outrageous fold 209 00:11:23.039 --> 00:11:26.960 that almost sent Ali Najade off the top of the Atlantis. 210 00:11:27.080 --> 00:11:29.879 I mean, just I would have had to leave the 211 00:11:29.879 --> 00:11:31.919 commentary book. To be honest, I'm not sure I could 212 00:11:31.919 --> 00:11:34.360 have continued after that. I mean, I don't know what 213 00:11:35.200 --> 00:11:38.919 Tony Parker was doing, but that's what he did. Anyway. 214 00:11:38.960 --> 00:11:39.480 That's a sing. 215 00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:41.080 Let's let okay, let's think about this. 216 00:11:41.080 --> 00:11:44.080 How much poka do you think Tony Poker plays outside 217 00:11:44.120 --> 00:11:47.600 of this when he comes to the World Series and. 218 00:11:47.600 --> 00:11:48.519 You're folding kings? 219 00:11:48.600 --> 00:11:52.200 No, but like, bro, maybe he just thinks that like 220 00:11:52.320 --> 00:11:54.639 when someone remember how it used to be back in 221 00:11:54.679 --> 00:11:57.480 the day when someone three Bayu they had kings or races. 222 00:11:57.879 --> 00:11:59.759 Maybe he's got that mindset, so he's just like the 223 00:11:59.799 --> 00:12:02.519 guy has to have ass is not all the way. 224 00:12:02.759 --> 00:12:04.320 I mean, that's that's probably what he's thinking. 225 00:12:04.399 --> 00:12:08.200 Is probably very simple, basic logic and kind of understandable 226 00:12:08.200 --> 00:12:12.279 for someone that does not play poko. You know, I'm 227 00:12:12.320 --> 00:12:14.559 not saying I'm saying it's a good follow I'm just 228 00:12:14.600 --> 00:12:16.360 saying I'm trying to get into his head. 229 00:12:16.639 --> 00:12:20.360 Well, according to what Tony Parker told Poker News. He said, 230 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:23.919 I folded pocket Kings. I heard. I don't know. They 231 00:12:23.960 --> 00:12:26.360 told me that he had Ace Queen. But it's one 232 00:12:26.399 --> 00:12:28.639 of those games where you just have to go with 233 00:12:28.679 --> 00:12:32.360 your feeling and how you feel the guys at the table. 234 00:12:34.519 --> 00:12:36.279 I mean, he's a field player. I love it. He's 235 00:12:36.320 --> 00:12:37.279 my favorite player already. 236 00:12:37.279 --> 00:12:41.960 Now it was Ace Queen Offsey. By the way, it's 237 00:12:42.000 --> 00:12:45.600 just it's an absolutely positively outrageous fold. I mean, one 238 00:12:45.600 --> 00:12:47.279 of the worst folds I've ever seen in my life. 239 00:12:47.799 --> 00:12:51.240 It just has to be there's nothing good about it. Anyway, 240 00:12:51.519 --> 00:12:54.720 back to this event, uh so Yin Enzou, twenty four 241 00:12:54.799 --> 00:12:58.080 year old Chinese player comes out on top. I will 242 00:12:58.120 --> 00:13:00.320 say that these Chinese players, by the way, they're going 243 00:13:00.399 --> 00:13:02.960 to be a problem, and like in a good way. 244 00:13:03.000 --> 00:13:07.240 Like they're like these You see a lot of these 245 00:13:07.320 --> 00:13:13.080 young Chinese players taking to poker and you have no 246 00:13:13.159 --> 00:13:16.879 idea who they are, and they start coming to the WSP, 247 00:13:17.039 --> 00:13:19.480 they come to big events like WSP Paradise. There was 248 00:13:19.559 --> 00:13:22.960 a bunch of them that I ran into it WPT 249 00:13:23.159 --> 00:13:25.320 World Championship. Like you see them all over now and 250 00:13:25.559 --> 00:13:29.120 they're just so good and they're young and they're fucking hungry, 251 00:13:29.480 --> 00:13:31.559 and they're fierce, and they don't give a crap, as 252 00:13:31.559 --> 00:13:34.039 evidenced by the fact that Zau just you know, decided 253 00:13:34.080 --> 00:13:36.279 to go for it against Adamo in this hand with 254 00:13:36.320 --> 00:13:39.519 this crazy bluff. I mean, these players are extremely good. 255 00:13:40.120 --> 00:13:41.559 So I'm just saying like they're going to be a 256 00:13:41.600 --> 00:13:44.960 problem in the sense that, you know, don't be scared 257 00:13:45.080 --> 00:13:47.399 or don't or sorry, don't be surprised. I should say, 258 00:13:47.480 --> 00:13:50.799 if you know, next WSP you have like fifteen of 259 00:13:50.799 --> 00:13:53.679 them them winning gold braces something something like that. Right, Like, 260 00:13:54.240 --> 00:13:57.480 they're much like you know, the Brazilians kind of came 261 00:13:57.480 --> 00:14:00.200 onto the scene more recently, like years and years ago. 262 00:14:00.240 --> 00:14:02.159 It used to be like the Brazilians are off of poker, 263 00:14:02.360 --> 00:14:05.279 like go to Brazil for all the LAPT events. It's bad, 264 00:14:05.480 --> 00:14:07.519 they're horrible down there. But now a lot of the 265 00:14:07.559 --> 00:14:09.759 Brazilians are some of the best players in the world. 266 00:14:09.919 --> 00:14:12.799 I feel like we're gonna start seeing that with some 267 00:14:12.840 --> 00:14:14.679 of these Chinese players, and probably, you know, on a 268 00:14:15.519 --> 00:14:19.159 more broad scale, the Asian players in general. They're just 269 00:14:19.559 --> 00:14:22.840 playing a lot more. They're super sharp, they're all studying 270 00:14:22.840 --> 00:14:24.480 and they're doing their own thing, you know. 271 00:14:24.679 --> 00:14:28.240 So I quickly pulled out my stat stock, but it 272 00:14:28.320 --> 00:14:31.320 needs a lot of updating. But twenty twenty three World Series, 273 00:14:31.360 --> 00:14:33.399 I was just thinking, as you're talking about the Chinese players, 274 00:14:33.399 --> 00:14:35.039 I was like, oh, they won a lot of bracelets. 275 00:14:35.039 --> 00:14:35.200 At you. 276 00:14:35.840 --> 00:14:41.519 They won six bracelets with ranks equal second with Canada, 277 00:14:41.960 --> 00:14:44.120 the most bracelets of the twenty twenty three World Series 278 00:14:44.159 --> 00:14:44.600 of Poker. 279 00:14:44.840 --> 00:14:47.440 So I'm gonna go already, coming on. 280 00:14:47.399 --> 00:14:49.240 I'm going to go on record right now that says 281 00:14:49.919 --> 00:14:51.720 twenty twenty five dovs. But they're gonna win the second 282 00:14:51.759 --> 00:14:53.799 most bracelets. It'll be USA number one, just because USA 283 00:14:53.840 --> 00:14:55.519 has the most players, of course, and then it's going 284 00:14:55.600 --> 00:14:57.720 to be China number two for sure, Like I'll bet 285 00:14:57.720 --> 00:14:58.080 on it. 286 00:14:58.080 --> 00:15:04.679 It's really out of who like Canada to China, Brazil, Germany, Australia. 287 00:15:04.679 --> 00:15:07.080 That's kind of it, right, I guess England. 288 00:15:08.759 --> 00:15:11.440 England is kind of like I feel like, not so 289 00:15:11.519 --> 00:15:14.279 much anymore. I feel like they used to be. I 290 00:15:14.320 --> 00:15:15.960 feel like they just don't have that many as many 291 00:15:16.039 --> 00:15:20.720 players as they once did. Yeah, I mean not that 292 00:15:20.919 --> 00:15:22.679 not that the players that they don't have aren't really good. 293 00:15:22.799 --> 00:15:25.360 I mean they are, but you know, it's just not 294 00:15:25.840 --> 00:15:29.480 as many as it once was. Canadians I feel like 295 00:15:29.519 --> 00:15:32.480 aren't as many because of the whole tax situation, you 296 00:15:32.559 --> 00:15:33.879 know that sort of thing. A lot of the a 297 00:15:33.879 --> 00:15:36.720 lot of the really top Canadians like don't come and 298 00:15:36.759 --> 00:15:38.720 put in massive volumes like they might come for the 299 00:15:38.720 --> 00:15:40.440 main event or some of the really big high rollers, 300 00:15:40.440 --> 00:15:42.919 but not putting in those huge, huge volumes that they 301 00:15:43.000 --> 00:15:46.159 used to. So you know, it's tricky. So yeah, I'm 302 00:15:46.200 --> 00:15:49.759 gonna say China gets the most second most bracelets next summer. 303 00:15:49.879 --> 00:15:53.679 That's my that's my bet. So yeah, crazy win here, obviously, 304 00:15:53.720 --> 00:15:56.480 crazy event in general. I'll get your thoughts on on 305 00:15:56.519 --> 00:15:58.240 a little bit more of that in a bit, But 306 00:15:58.279 --> 00:16:01.600 I do want to hit on this Bonomo controversy that 307 00:16:03.120 --> 00:16:06.799 kind of dropped out of nowhere, I guess just because 308 00:16:06.919 --> 00:16:11.639 it's he fired off a tweet saying like they so 309 00:16:11.720 --> 00:16:16.720 he was wearing. So it turned out to be a cafia, 310 00:16:17.039 --> 00:16:20.399 I believe. If I'm pronouncing that correctly, which is, for 311 00:16:20.480 --> 00:16:22.960 lack of a better terms, it looks like a scarf, okay, 312 00:16:23.440 --> 00:16:29.279 and it's worn in support of Palestine. Palestine right, and 313 00:16:29.519 --> 00:16:34.600 Bontomo of course, has been extremely vocal on on social 314 00:16:34.600 --> 00:16:38.720 media about what's going on over in the Middle East, right, 315 00:16:38.879 --> 00:16:42.559 and you know, he's obviously very polarizing on this topic. 316 00:16:42.600 --> 00:16:44.320 I'm not going to get into all that sort of 317 00:16:44.360 --> 00:16:45.799 stuff because we're not going. 318 00:16:45.759 --> 00:16:46.080 To do that. 319 00:16:46.279 --> 00:16:49.799 But what is interesting here is that he tweeted out 320 00:16:49.919 --> 00:16:54.879 that the doubs a p was going to disqualify him 321 00:16:55.000 --> 00:16:57.200 from the event. What he said was down to sixteen 322 00:16:57.200 --> 00:17:01.080 players in the twenty five K Superminis informed me that 323 00:17:01.080 --> 00:17:03.399 I will be disqualified from the tournament if I don't 324 00:17:03.480 --> 00:17:07.160 take my kafia off. He said, pretty fucked that they'll 325 00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:10.400 run a charity tournament for the IDF, but won't let 326 00:17:10.440 --> 00:17:14.039 me wear a scarf because it was made in Palestine. Now, 327 00:17:14.640 --> 00:17:16.680 that last part about the tournament for the idea, if 328 00:17:16.720 --> 00:17:20.079 there was a charity tournament down there, I don't think 329 00:17:20.119 --> 00:17:22.759 from what I've heard that it was directly for the IDF. 330 00:17:22.759 --> 00:17:26.279 It was more for like widows and children and stuff 331 00:17:26.279 --> 00:17:28.680 like that, people who have lost loved ones, lost parents, 332 00:17:28.680 --> 00:17:31.119 et cetera. So we're just gonna leave that to a 333 00:17:31.200 --> 00:17:36.599 side for a second or all together. But it's it 334 00:17:36.680 --> 00:17:39.440 seems pretty crazy that the wasby took this stance. To 335 00:17:39.519 --> 00:17:43.519 be honest, I mean, I don't have a side here, 336 00:17:43.599 --> 00:17:45.599 like I'm not going to side with Bontamo for what 337 00:17:45.839 --> 00:17:47.720 he believes in or side for the people on the 338 00:17:47.759 --> 00:17:50.799 other side. I'm not here to make my opinions heard 339 00:17:50.839 --> 00:17:56.400 on that. It just seems like he's I mean, I'm 340 00:17:56.440 --> 00:17:58.480 sure they have some sort of rule on the books 341 00:17:59.079 --> 00:18:01.359 that they can kind of do whatever they want. They're 342 00:18:01.359 --> 00:18:05.319 gonna deny political statements that sort of stuff, But it 343 00:18:05.319 --> 00:18:07.519 seems weird that you would all of a sudden do 344 00:18:07.599 --> 00:18:10.519 this now and then It's kind of interesting that it's 345 00:18:10.599 --> 00:18:13.799 juxtaposed between the fact that they had this charity tournament 346 00:18:13.839 --> 00:18:17.920 there it's Bonama who's so vocal when I'm I'm sure 347 00:18:17.960 --> 00:18:20.319 there has to be plenty of times where there's been 348 00:18:21.319 --> 00:18:24.920 something similar worn by someone during the summer, right, Like, 349 00:18:24.960 --> 00:18:27.400 there's just so much going on that like somebody has 350 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:30.480 to have something on, Like, for example, if I show 351 00:18:30.519 --> 00:18:34.920 up wearing a a Maga hat, isn't that kind of like, 352 00:18:34.960 --> 00:18:37.680 you know, is that is that? Like I mean, are 353 00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:39.519 they gonna say, oh, no, you can't, you can't do 354 00:18:39.599 --> 00:18:41.160 that like that type of thing. 355 00:18:41.440 --> 00:18:43.519 I think there was some talk where you know, these 356 00:18:45.680 --> 00:18:48.079 this this, these streams are going to cut into episodes, 357 00:18:48.400 --> 00:18:51.480 these episodes would be going to network TV. Uh, and 358 00:18:51.519 --> 00:18:53.440 that's where it was going to be an issue. Whilst 359 00:18:53.640 --> 00:18:56.559 the IDF Tournament it wasn't streamed. It was just an 360 00:18:56.559 --> 00:18:59.160 event that was held where it wasn't you know, gonna 361 00:18:59.200 --> 00:19:01.640 be on network TV and affect anything like that. So 362 00:19:02.359 --> 00:19:05.319 from that aspect, it kind of makes sense. I actually 363 00:19:05.359 --> 00:19:09.480 spoke to Palestinian friend of mine that I play soccer with, 364 00:19:10.039 --> 00:19:15.240 and he says that that like that item is you know, 365 00:19:15.880 --> 00:19:18.240 in a way the I don't even know how to 366 00:19:18.279 --> 00:19:23.319 say this probably, but it's becoming like synonymous with the 367 00:19:23.359 --> 00:19:24.799 whole kind of Palestine. 368 00:19:25.400 --> 00:19:28.319 If you wear it in support of Palestine like that, 369 00:19:28.599 --> 00:19:31.359 it's one of those things that if you're I'll say, 370 00:19:31.359 --> 00:19:33.519 an outsider, but like if you know, if you're I mean, 371 00:19:33.559 --> 00:19:35.359 I would bottom was an outsider in the sense that 372 00:19:35.400 --> 00:19:37.240 he's not there in the middle of it all is 373 00:19:37.279 --> 00:19:38.759 what I'm trying to get it. And you can wear 374 00:19:38.799 --> 00:19:41.240 it in support just like when I mentioned the Make 375 00:19:41.279 --> 00:19:43.680 America Great Again hat, Like you wear that in support 376 00:19:43.759 --> 00:19:46.480 of Donald Trump or the Republican Party, Like that's just 377 00:19:46.519 --> 00:19:50.240 what you do, right, yeah, wearing if Tim shows up 378 00:19:50.240 --> 00:19:52.880 in a Denver Broncos jersey yes, that's what you do. 379 00:19:53.119 --> 00:19:56.599 Yeah, I mean, and like it's there's no statement on 380 00:19:56.680 --> 00:19:58.799 this For those who haven't seen on this scoff, it's 381 00:19:58.799 --> 00:20:03.559 literally just a white and blue patterned scarf that Bonomo 382 00:20:03.680 --> 00:20:06.680 was wearing over his shoulders, so he wasn't wearing it 383 00:20:06.880 --> 00:20:09.440 like a headband like you know some people might think. 384 00:20:09.480 --> 00:20:10.920 But I don't know. 385 00:20:11.000 --> 00:20:16.119 I'm not against the decision if it's based on a 386 00:20:16.200 --> 00:20:18.319 reason such as what we've kind of discussed, like the 387 00:20:18.319 --> 00:20:22.079 whole TV aspect. I just think the WSP should have 388 00:20:22.680 --> 00:20:25.640 been ahead of that, you know, instead of letting Bonomo, 389 00:20:25.799 --> 00:20:27.359 you know, come out and say what everyone's to say, 390 00:20:27.640 --> 00:20:29.039 he should have they should have said this is the 391 00:20:29.079 --> 00:20:33.480 reasons why and immediately kind of issued not a statement, 392 00:20:33.519 --> 00:20:37.160 but like maybe via social said something just to like 393 00:20:37.559 --> 00:20:41.039 calm the whole noise that this ended up creating around 394 00:20:41.079 --> 00:20:42.319 the social universe. 395 00:20:43.279 --> 00:20:46.440 Yeah, I mean, I thought it was just extremely interesting 396 00:20:46.759 --> 00:20:50.960 and very bold, to say the least, for the w 397 00:20:51.119 --> 00:20:55.240 s B to take this stance, because I mean, you 398 00:20:55.559 --> 00:20:58.559 take this stance as an organization, I mean you're kind 399 00:20:58.599 --> 00:21:03.039 of picking aside in a way, you know, like you 400 00:21:03.079 --> 00:21:06.079 have to you have to, I guess rule on equal 401 00:21:06.079 --> 00:21:09.920 footing in a lot of situations. So you know, what 402 00:21:10.000 --> 00:21:15.039 if something happens during the summer where somebody's playing at 403 00:21:15.079 --> 00:21:19.240 Bonomo's table and they're supporting something, you know, by by 404 00:21:19.279 --> 00:21:22.240 wearing a garment or wearing a T shirt that says something, 405 00:21:22.400 --> 00:21:24.160 or a hat or you know, maybe they have some 406 00:21:24.200 --> 00:21:26.960 sort of chip or sorry card protector or whatever it 407 00:21:26.960 --> 00:21:28.519 may be, and Bonnamball calls it out, but they don't 408 00:21:28.519 --> 00:21:30.880 do anything. Then like then it then it becomes a 409 00:21:30.880 --> 00:21:33.480 whole another situation. So it's just I don't know, it 410 00:21:33.559 --> 00:21:35.640 kind of like weirdly opens this can of worms that 411 00:21:35.680 --> 00:21:39.200 I just never thought that the w SP would would 412 00:21:39.240 --> 00:21:42.680 go down because I'm also not I'm not sure that 413 00:21:42.759 --> 00:21:45.240 a lot of I mean, you mentioned the TV stuff, 414 00:21:45.279 --> 00:21:49.160 like what a lot of people even draw the or 415 00:21:49.160 --> 00:21:51.480 connect the dots or they just think, oh, he's wearing 416 00:21:51.519 --> 00:21:51.960 a scarf. 417 00:21:52.720 --> 00:21:54.880 I think the majority of the world would say is 418 00:21:54.920 --> 00:21:55.480 a scarf? 419 00:21:55.599 --> 00:21:58.200 But that's what I mean. So like they're like they 420 00:21:58.279 --> 00:22:01.039 made it into something that it that maybe people didn't 421 00:22:01.200 --> 00:22:02.960 or would have never thought. 422 00:22:03.599 --> 00:22:06.279 Yeah, so, which I think it's some other question of interesting. 423 00:22:06.319 --> 00:22:08.960 You know, if it's GG producing episodes sending it to 424 00:22:09.680 --> 00:22:12.599 a CBS or something, and then CBS being like, no, 425 00:22:12.680 --> 00:22:15.920 you kind of have this, you know, because obviously they 426 00:22:15.920 --> 00:22:20.440 would understand the more logistics behind the political stuff. 427 00:22:20.519 --> 00:22:23.079 But yeah, I mean I thought it was I also 428 00:22:23.079 --> 00:22:26.119 thought it was interesting because this is now the two 429 00:22:26.200 --> 00:22:30.200 biggest WSP event events, like in a row WSB main 430 00:22:30.200 --> 00:22:33.079 event in the summer and now this WSP Paradise Super 431 00:22:33.079 --> 00:22:36.319 main event, where there's been like some controversy that in 432 00:22:36.319 --> 00:22:40.200 a way is kind of taken center stage. Like you 433 00:22:40.279 --> 00:22:44.599 had the whole laptop Gate stuff happen and that really 434 00:22:44.640 --> 00:22:48.279 like took the spotlight away from Jonathan Tomio's win in 435 00:22:48.359 --> 00:22:50.200 the summer or at the end of the summer, and 436 00:22:50.240 --> 00:22:54.440 then here, I mean, for you know whatever anywhere from 437 00:22:54.440 --> 00:22:56.960 twenty four to seventy two hours and you know, like 438 00:22:57.000 --> 00:22:59.119 we're talking about it on this podcast, a lot of 439 00:22:59.119 --> 00:23:01.920 people have been talking about on social media like it's 440 00:23:01.960 --> 00:23:04.279 almost like let's forget about ZAO and just focus on 441 00:23:04.319 --> 00:23:07.359 this controversial ruling that happened, you know, And it's kind 442 00:23:07.400 --> 00:23:10.279 of just it's interesting that that has happened and it's 443 00:23:10.279 --> 00:23:13.960 both involved these two massive WSITY events. I just I 444 00:23:13.960 --> 00:23:16.519 don't know, I just find that kind of like weirdly coincidental, 445 00:23:16.759 --> 00:23:21.079 is all I guess. So other notable finishes from this 446 00:23:21.160 --> 00:23:24.440 event you had ren Linn Speaking of Chinese players, ren 447 00:23:24.519 --> 00:23:26.559 Linn is just always crushing it. Eleventh place for three 448 00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:30.720 hundred and seventy k srel Mitzi's sixtheenth place excuse me 449 00:23:30.759 --> 00:23:33.480 for two hundred ninety five thousand dollars. Chris Claude Nikki 450 00:23:33.960 --> 00:23:35.880 Back in the Mix, twenty sixth for one hundred and 451 00:23:35.880 --> 00:23:39.240 eighty thousand dollars. Aplu Garza Your Guy, Oh Boy, Sweet 452 00:23:39.279 --> 00:23:42.160 Lou thirty six for one hundred and forty one thousand dollars. 453 00:23:42.240 --> 00:23:46.160 Matthew Wantman, he's a regular on the PGT. He got 454 00:23:46.200 --> 00:23:50.160 forty sixth for one hundred and forty thousand dollars. Nick 455 00:23:50.240 --> 00:23:52.440 Patrangel I think finished forty seventh for one hundred and 456 00:23:52.480 --> 00:23:55.200 forty thousand dollars as well. Darren Elias. I was actually 457 00:23:55.240 --> 00:23:58.640 surprised to see Darren Olias there and not in Vegas 458 00:23:58.720 --> 00:24:02.119 for the bed MGM series fifty eighth for one hundred 459 00:24:02.119 --> 00:24:04.880 and ten thousand dollars for him. Stephen Chidwick eighty six 460 00:24:05.160 --> 00:24:07.960 for eighty six thousand dollars. Nick Shulman, who had a 461 00:24:08.000 --> 00:24:11.359 pretty good series ninety second for eighty six thousand dollars. 462 00:24:11.359 --> 00:24:13.920 Alex Foxen cash in one hundred and thirty fifth place, 463 00:24:14.039 --> 00:24:16.599 as did his wife Kristen Fox and she finished in 464 00:24:16.640 --> 00:24:19.039 two hundred and tenth place. And then a couple of 465 00:24:19.640 --> 00:24:22.880 legendary players here, Eric's Sidel one hundred and sixty first, 466 00:24:23.000 --> 00:24:25.759 Daniel legrand New one hundred and seventieth, and John Juwanda 467 00:24:25.799 --> 00:24:30.200 one hundred and seventy first. All right, so specific to 468 00:24:30.960 --> 00:24:35.839 the ws AP, super Duper Main Event is always the 469 00:24:35.839 --> 00:24:38.559 super Duper Main event in my world, Tim, what are 470 00:24:38.599 --> 00:24:43.440 your overall thoughts like about the event, about the near 471 00:24:43.480 --> 00:24:45.920 reaching of the guarantee, just kind of give it to me. 472 00:24:46.640 --> 00:24:48.119 As you mentioned at the top of the show, a 473 00:24:48.400 --> 00:24:52.440 little bit of skepticism on the numbers. I'm not saying 474 00:24:52.440 --> 00:24:55.599 that they didn't hit it, but you know it's from 475 00:24:55.680 --> 00:24:58.119 the start they weren't very transparent on how many were 476 00:24:58.200 --> 00:25:00.599 on the online flights. And you know, we saw a 477 00:25:00.680 --> 00:25:05.000 tweet that came out about changing the structure and changing 478 00:25:05.680 --> 00:25:09.519 how the event was, the schedule and everything, and. 479 00:25:09.680 --> 00:25:12.400 Wait, well, quickly, the stuff you saw on social media 480 00:25:12.400 --> 00:25:14.519 that you're referencing about the changing of the structure is 481 00:25:14.519 --> 00:25:17.279 that they extended the late registration period by a level. 482 00:25:17.359 --> 00:25:20.039 I think it was maybe two levels. I can't remember 483 00:25:20.960 --> 00:25:26.000 something with two levels. Seems a little bit questionable to 484 00:25:26.079 --> 00:25:29.200 be able to do that after after the event like started, 485 00:25:29.240 --> 00:25:31.279 after people have traveled they're like all that sort of stuff, 486 00:25:31.319 --> 00:25:32.599 so interesting there. 487 00:25:33.200 --> 00:25:35.079 Yeah, so that, you know, I think that puts a 488 00:25:35.119 --> 00:25:40.000 little bit of a distaste in player's mouth because you know, 489 00:25:40.000 --> 00:25:43.079 you're basically trying to not overlay so much, and people 490 00:25:43.119 --> 00:25:46.519 are obviously traveling there thinking, hey, this is going to overlay. 491 00:25:46.559 --> 00:25:49.039 I would I'm going to my EV goes up, I'm 492 00:25:49.039 --> 00:25:52.279 going to partake, and then when you change the structure 493 00:25:52.319 --> 00:25:56.359 of the event, you know, you're basically, you know, eating 494 00:25:56.440 --> 00:25:56.880 up their EV. 495 00:25:57.000 --> 00:25:57.960 So I didn't really like that. 496 00:25:58.119 --> 00:26:00.240 The fact that they did get so close, whether thember 497 00:26:00.279 --> 00:26:02.839 is real or not, is great. You know, you say, 498 00:26:02.920 --> 00:26:06.039 nineteen hundred and seventy eight entrance. I would love to 499 00:26:06.079 --> 00:26:07.440 see a unique number. 500 00:26:07.960 --> 00:26:08.160 You know. 501 00:26:08.359 --> 00:26:12.039 I did hear from certain players about big name pros 502 00:26:12.079 --> 00:26:16.359 being in for ten twelve bullets, some disgusting album. 503 00:26:16.640 --> 00:26:18.880 Yeah, two hundred and fifty K jeez. 504 00:26:19.119 --> 00:26:20.920 That's why I'd love to see the unique list. 505 00:26:20.960 --> 00:26:24.880 And I kind of know exactly what that number is 506 00:26:24.920 --> 00:26:29.960 for some some players. So but outside of that the positives, 507 00:26:30.200 --> 00:26:32.759 I thought the coverage was great. Like you, I watched 508 00:26:32.920 --> 00:26:36.880 nearly every day when I wasn't either playing or doing 509 00:26:36.960 --> 00:26:40.200 something else, and that, you know, kudos out there to 510 00:26:40.200 --> 00:26:41.519 try it and the gig team for that. 511 00:26:42.240 --> 00:26:43.519 I thought their social was great. 512 00:26:43.519 --> 00:26:46.839 They were just kind of doing stuff And I know 513 00:26:46.920 --> 00:26:52.279 that sounds really silly, but compared to how they've handled 514 00:26:52.519 --> 00:26:55.440 you know, previous WSP events, they it looks like they 515 00:26:55.440 --> 00:26:58.200 were actively trying to do more and I think. 516 00:26:58.000 --> 00:27:02.039 That's good for both WSP but also just all the 517 00:27:02.079 --> 00:27:03.079 events that are going around. 518 00:27:03.200 --> 00:27:05.119 You know, in December, you know, we're going to talk 519 00:27:05.119 --> 00:27:07.720 about WBT, We're going to talk about EBT product. There's 520 00:27:07.720 --> 00:27:10.680 just a lot going on, and WSP were making sure 521 00:27:10.680 --> 00:27:14.799 that they were a talking point. So that, Yeah, that's 522 00:27:14.839 --> 00:27:18.039 kind of what I take out of the main event. 523 00:27:19.240 --> 00:27:22.720 Do you think they'll run it back in twenty twenty 524 00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:26.200 five with the same fifty million dollars guarantee? Is there 525 00:27:26.200 --> 00:27:28.279 a chance in your mind they go bigger? Will they 526 00:27:28.319 --> 00:27:31.079 pull it back go smaller? What are your thoughts there? 527 00:27:32.000 --> 00:27:35.039 I really don't know. I could see them changing it. 528 00:27:35.039 --> 00:27:38.440 It annoys me that the first two years of this 529 00:27:38.519 --> 00:27:40.000 series the main events different. 530 00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:42.960 I mean last year last year was like the WSB 531 00:27:43.039 --> 00:27:44.960 Paradise main event was a ten k buy in. 532 00:27:45.559 --> 00:27:47.160 This year it's five k bying. 533 00:27:47.319 --> 00:27:49.599 It's this or yeah, five k buying. This year it's 534 00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:52.680 this super duper main event with the twenty five k 535 00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:53.279 buy and you. 536 00:27:53.240 --> 00:27:55.119 Know, and like it's next year going to go back 537 00:27:55.119 --> 00:27:57.359 to ten k, and then it's just like the consistency 538 00:27:57.400 --> 00:27:57.599 is not. 539 00:27:57.640 --> 00:27:59.359 There, go to fifty k for all I know, Like, 540 00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:01.799 I mean, there's no whatsoever. 541 00:28:02.799 --> 00:28:04.519 If I had to choose, I would just say, hey, 542 00:28:04.559 --> 00:28:06.880 just keep keep it as it is. 543 00:28:07.759 --> 00:28:08.119 Now. 544 00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:12.319 Are they going to reduce the main event guarantee? They 545 00:28:12.359 --> 00:28:14.680 probably have a little bit too much prior to do that, 546 00:28:14.839 --> 00:28:18.359 So I guess from a betting man, I'd probably say 547 00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:21.440 it's going to be run back very similar, twenty five 548 00:28:21.519 --> 00:28:26.680 k super main event, fifty million guarantee. 549 00:28:27.359 --> 00:28:30.480 Did you talk to any players about this event? What 550 00:28:31.160 --> 00:28:33.240 were any thoughts that you heard on it? Did people 551 00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:36.519 think that they found value in playing it? I mean 552 00:28:36.839 --> 00:28:41.559 me from Afar watching the coverage, looking through the updates, 553 00:28:41.920 --> 00:28:45.000 it seemed like it was eighty percent really good players. 554 00:28:46.079 --> 00:28:47.960 I'm like sitting here wondering, like, where the hell is 555 00:28:48.000 --> 00:28:48.880 the value in this thing? 556 00:28:50.039 --> 00:28:53.000 The value is obviously in the potential overlay, right, and 557 00:28:53.079 --> 00:28:54.519 then you also. 558 00:28:54.319 --> 00:28:57.119 Have al like you know, you don't, Yeah. 559 00:28:56.920 --> 00:29:00.400 It's always potential. But then there's also the million free 560 00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:05.359 role they had. They also had the whole bitcoin locked 561 00:29:05.400 --> 00:29:08.279 in price thing, so there was some ev in other ways. 562 00:29:10.079 --> 00:29:11.920 And I believe a lot of players were getting free 563 00:29:12.079 --> 00:29:13.680 comped rooms, so. 564 00:29:13.599 --> 00:29:14.680 There is some EV there. 565 00:29:16.119 --> 00:29:18.680 The most things I heard from players were negative, but 566 00:29:18.880 --> 00:29:24.359 not negative towards the event. It was more I was 567 00:29:24.400 --> 00:29:26.640 just kind of sick of the mahamas. I was over it, 568 00:29:27.160 --> 00:29:30.880 you know, more of that than than like then the 569 00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:33.279 actual specifics of the event. So it's very like, you know, 570 00:29:33.400 --> 00:29:39.599 individual and personalized. A lot of players traveled back prior 571 00:29:39.640 --> 00:29:42.559 to the million dollar free role, so that's quite surprising 572 00:29:42.599 --> 00:29:45.759 that they, you know, these these players are giving up 573 00:29:45.799 --> 00:29:49.160 that ev. I don't I don't know how many entrants 574 00:29:49.200 --> 00:29:51.880 were could have maxed that and then out, but you 575 00:29:51.880 --> 00:29:54.640 could kind of calculate the ev that they would give 576 00:29:54.720 --> 00:29:57.559 up that to come back here to Vegas to play 577 00:29:57.599 --> 00:29:59.839 the last you know, the last flight of the main 578 00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:02.759 or whatever. Events that were coming back for So that 579 00:30:02.839 --> 00:30:06.720 kind of surprised me. But yeah, I didn't really hear 580 00:30:06.759 --> 00:30:09.680 anything negative about the actual event that we kind of 581 00:30:09.680 --> 00:30:10.720 haven't already discussed. 582 00:30:12.240 --> 00:30:16.720 Yeah, I guess I'm just curious to try and know 583 00:30:17.079 --> 00:30:21.319 if players would opt to go back, like if they 584 00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:24.680 if they went this time, obviously going because oh this 585 00:30:24.720 --> 00:30:26.440 is a twenty five k it's got a fifty million 586 00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:28.920 dollar guarantee, you know, hopefully it'll be pretty good. But 587 00:30:28.920 --> 00:30:31.680 then if you I'm talking about the specific like play 588 00:30:31.839 --> 00:30:33.640 like and if you get into the event, it's not 589 00:30:34.359 --> 00:30:36.559 as valuable as you might have thought. You're planning on 590 00:30:36.640 --> 00:30:39.920 a lot of really tough players. Do you not then, 591 00:30:40.559 --> 00:30:43.480 like overextend yourself to go, you know, spend a week 592 00:30:43.519 --> 00:30:45.680 and a half or however long into Bahamas, you know, 593 00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:49.160 possibly pay for flight and hotel and all that sort 594 00:30:49.160 --> 00:30:51.759 of stuff that comes with not only just going to 595 00:30:51.839 --> 00:30:54.319 like this specific event, but traveling for any event. Like 596 00:30:54.359 --> 00:30:56.640 it's it's a lot on you, right, Like, it's a 597 00:30:56.640 --> 00:30:59.400 lot of travel, it's a lot of extra money that 598 00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:02.000 you have to pay, which is essentially rake on ongoing 599 00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:04.599 to a tournament like this. So you know, did did 600 00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:07.039 they deem that it was worth it, you know, from 601 00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:10.519 a player of perspective or player of value perspective, I'd 602 00:31:10.599 --> 00:31:13.799 be curious to know or if they feel like maybe 603 00:31:13.839 --> 00:31:17.839 like most specifically players within the States are even even 604 00:31:17.960 --> 00:31:20.599 you know, focus that in a little bit more players 605 00:31:20.599 --> 00:31:23.400 out of Vegas, Like, am I just going to stay 606 00:31:23.400 --> 00:31:25.519 there and do the WPT thing next year? 607 00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:26.279 You know? 608 00:31:26.599 --> 00:31:28.799 Or am I going to again jump to the Bahamas? 609 00:31:28.839 --> 00:31:29.240 I don't. 610 00:31:29.680 --> 00:31:30.799 It's going to be on the schedule. 611 00:31:30.839 --> 00:31:32.960 These guys are always going to choose the best schedule 612 00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:36.279 what they think is best for them. Obviously, Paradise offered 613 00:31:37.519 --> 00:31:40.720 in a lot of people's mind decent value with the 614 00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:44.000 the Super Super Dupid main event and the free roll. 615 00:31:44.559 --> 00:31:47.119 Now if they don't have that next year and and 616 00:31:47.960 --> 00:31:51.359 WPT bring back, say a guarantee, well then hey, maybe 617 00:31:51.400 --> 00:31:56.160 there's more incentive to stay in Vegas. Maybe Paradise doubles 618 00:31:56.200 --> 00:31:59.119 down and does even more, tries to give up more 619 00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:02.240 value for players and in a way take some of 620 00:32:02.279 --> 00:32:04.000 the people that didn't go this year. 621 00:32:04.160 --> 00:32:06.599 So so he's going to be a schedule thing. You know. 622 00:32:06.759 --> 00:32:11.000 We'll see what both series announce and then players will 623 00:32:11.000 --> 00:32:12.920 start kind of making their mind up from there. 624 00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:18.640 Speaking of the schedule other events that took place at 625 00:32:18.799 --> 00:32:21.440 WSP Paradise and the winners of those events. You had 626 00:32:21.480 --> 00:32:24.720 Jeff Hakeim winning the twenty seven hundred and fifty dollars 627 00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:28.559 Mini Main Event for five hundred and seventy five thousand dollars. 628 00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:32.440 This event had two thousand and thirty one entries. A 629 00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:36.920 Lejandro Lecoco won the five hundred and twenty five thousand 630 00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:40.680 dollars Triton Million. This was the event where it's called 631 00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:43.240 the Triton Million because I guess technically it's a million 632 00:32:43.240 --> 00:32:45.400 dollar buying because you had to go in in pairs, 633 00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:47.920 you had to have a VIP that was playing, and 634 00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:51.279 then that VIP invited a pro. There was ninety six 635 00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:53.799 entries in this one and Locco won it all for 636 00:32:54.039 --> 00:32:58.640 just over twelve million dollars. Locco has become an absolute 637 00:32:58.680 --> 00:33:02.759 freaking force on the poker scene in recent years. I 638 00:33:02.799 --> 00:33:05.240 know he was like wild and crazy when he made 639 00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:08.200 that w SP main event run a handful of years ago, 640 00:33:08.319 --> 00:33:11.799 and ever since then, I feel like he's just gotten 641 00:33:11.839 --> 00:33:14.400 better and better and better and continues to dominate and 642 00:33:14.440 --> 00:33:18.519 now has obviously a massive, massive score for just over 643 00:33:18.640 --> 00:33:23.440 twelve million dollars. Lataro Guerra the PLO Crusher won the 644 00:33:23.440 --> 00:33:25.960 one hundred and three thousand dollars PLO Super high Roller 645 00:33:26.039 --> 00:33:28.960 for two million, one hundred and twenty six thousand dollars. 646 00:33:28.960 --> 00:33:31.960 He topped the field of eighty eight entries there. Eric 647 00:33:32.079 --> 00:33:35.920 Wasserson finally got a World Series of Poker Gold race 648 00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:38.960 that he won the twenty six thousand dollars Dealers Choice 649 00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:41.519 Championship for three hundred and fifty three thousand dollars. This 650 00:33:41.559 --> 00:33:43.960 event had forty nine entries. This event, by the way, 651 00:33:44.079 --> 00:33:47.880 had a little controversy itself because wasn't it on the 652 00:33:47.880 --> 00:33:50.880 schedule as like a twenty one game Dealer's Voice, and 653 00:33:50.960 --> 00:33:53.920 then they announced in like Level two that they were 654 00:33:53.960 --> 00:33:56.759 changing into a ten game. So you know, according to 655 00:33:56.799 --> 00:34:00.680 who you talk to, that was always the plan. But personally, 656 00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:02.960 I find it hard that it was always the plan 657 00:34:03.039 --> 00:34:06.160 if it wasn't publicized beforehand, Like, I don't know how 658 00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:09.360 you can claim that it was always the plan yet 659 00:34:09.679 --> 00:34:12.000 it wasn't publicized beforehand, And then you talk to some 660 00:34:12.039 --> 00:34:14.519 other sources and they said that everyone that plays it, no, 661 00:34:14.559 --> 00:34:15.880 it was always going to be a ten game. What 662 00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:20.760 do you mean, like you mean, every everyone that could 663 00:34:20.800 --> 00:34:25.159 have played it. No, you have to like that. You 664 00:34:25.159 --> 00:34:27.400 have to talk to everyone because it's not like one 665 00:34:27.440 --> 00:34:29.159 of those events where like you sign up ahead of 666 00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:31.119 time and it's capped and you know, all like forty 667 00:34:31.199 --> 00:34:33.639 nine players in the field, like you or I could 668 00:34:33.639 --> 00:34:36.199 have showed up yeah and been like, oh, we're playing, 669 00:34:36.199 --> 00:34:38.400 but no one told us like that. Just it seems 670 00:34:38.440 --> 00:34:41.320 like they're backtracking there, which is, you know, just another 671 00:34:41.400 --> 00:34:44.239 kind of like weird, interesting thing to come out of 672 00:34:44.239 --> 00:34:44.719 this series. 673 00:34:46.079 --> 00:34:48.840 Yeah, WSP are not good at structure sheets, like even 674 00:34:48.880 --> 00:34:51.679 the ones in the Vegas they kind of leave out 675 00:34:51.719 --> 00:34:54.679 important information. So I think whether or not this was 676 00:34:54.719 --> 00:34:57.280 true or not that it was ten game Mix put 677 00:34:57.320 --> 00:34:59.400 it on the structure sheet. 678 00:35:00.039 --> 00:35:01.400 Yeah, that was That was just weird. 679 00:35:02.400 --> 00:35:06.920 Ley You who Zoo claimed is a Chinese super pro. 680 00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:09.920 He won the fifty three hundred dollars Nolan Man hold 681 00:35:10.000 --> 00:35:13.039 Him Deep Stack event for two hundred ninety three thousand dollars. 682 00:35:13.599 --> 00:35:16.000 This event had three hundred and sixty three entries. Alex 683 00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:19.960 Foxen we all know Alex Foxen. He won the one 684 00:35:20.039 --> 00:35:22.760 hundred and six thousand dollars Buying Triton Main Event for 685 00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:26.519 three point eight five million dollars one hundred and eighty 686 00:35:26.559 --> 00:35:30.079 two entries. Here played a six six sick hand against 687 00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:33.280 Jiao Vieira in heads up play where he called with 688 00:35:33.840 --> 00:35:36.719 I believe it was bottom pair with I think it 689 00:35:36.760 --> 00:35:39.400 was eight deuce in his hand. Just a great, great hand, 690 00:35:39.920 --> 00:35:42.400 great performance there from Alex fox When when Foxen is 691 00:35:42.800 --> 00:35:45.000 locked in and he's locked in like ninety eight percent 692 00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:47.760 of the time, I mean, good luck beating that guy seriously. 693 00:35:48.360 --> 00:35:51.880 Steven Chidwick won the fifty two thousand dollars PLO Championship 694 00:35:51.880 --> 00:35:54.159 for one million, three hundred and fifty seven thousand dollars. 695 00:35:54.239 --> 00:35:58.639 He topped a field of one hundred and twenty two entries. Stevie, listen, wrong, wsop, 696 00:35:59.400 --> 00:36:02.079 we drafted did you for the summer WSP. You were 697 00:36:02.079 --> 00:36:05.599 supposed to win one of the big PLO tournaments there 698 00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:09.519 not this not in paradise. This doesn't count for fantasy, Stevie, 699 00:36:09.559 --> 00:36:12.639 Come on, man, do me a solid good lord. Mike 700 00:36:12.679 --> 00:36:16.239 Gardinski got another bracelet ten thousand and four dollars PLO. 701 00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:18.559 He won for three hundred ninety three thousand dollars. This 702 00:36:18.599 --> 00:36:22.480 event had two hundred entries. Johann Straver won the ten 703 00:36:22.519 --> 00:36:26.719 thousand and four dollars Gigi Millions Championship for a whopping 704 00:36:26.760 --> 00:36:29.400 eight hundred and seven thousand dollars five hundred and thirty 705 00:36:29.440 --> 00:36:33.440 two entries there. Thomas Fuchs probably butchered that name won 706 00:36:33.480 --> 00:36:37.360 the fifty two thousand dollars high Roller one point two 707 00:36:37.719 --> 00:36:40.480 nine to two million, one hundred and thirty entries there. 708 00:36:40.559 --> 00:36:46.320 Nick Shulman fifty three hundred dollars closer Turbo Bounty won 709 00:36:46.360 --> 00:36:48.719 it for one hundred and forty five thousand dollars. This 710 00:36:48.840 --> 00:36:51.360 was a crazy final table. It had Sean Deeb, It 711 00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:54.079 had renln with I think Renlin finished in the second place. 712 00:36:54.119 --> 00:36:57.679 It had Negrand new At, It had a Santos servanna At. 713 00:36:57.719 --> 00:37:00.760 It so wild final table. There dred and thirty eight 714 00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:04.639 entries in that one, and then Pablo Silva won the 715 00:37:04.719 --> 00:37:08.239 Summer Saver Internationalist. Was that million dollar free roll at 716 00:37:08.280 --> 00:37:10.119 the end of the series. Four hundred and eighty seven 717 00:37:10.239 --> 00:37:13.760 entries were in it, two hundred K for Silva. Shulman 718 00:37:14.360 --> 00:37:18.559 another bracelet. He was asked afterwards, but I can't remember 719 00:37:18.559 --> 00:37:20.960 if it was Pokernews or poker dot org forgive me, 720 00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:25.480 but somebody asked him about the Hall of Fame. He was. 721 00:37:27.280 --> 00:37:29.639 I would say he changed his tune a little bit 722 00:37:30.000 --> 00:37:32.559 compared to when you talked with him in the summer. 723 00:37:33.039 --> 00:37:35.000 When you talked with them in the summer, he was like, 724 00:37:36.320 --> 00:37:38.360 I'm one of the best in the world. I believe 725 00:37:38.400 --> 00:37:40.000 that I want to be in the Hall of Fame, 726 00:37:40.119 --> 00:37:42.480 like you know, all that sort of stuff. And now 727 00:37:42.519 --> 00:37:46.119 he was kind of like put off and just kind 728 00:37:46.119 --> 00:37:48.000 of said, you know, I don't really care about that 729 00:37:48.119 --> 00:37:49.800 or think about that sort of stuff. You know, So 730 00:37:50.320 --> 00:37:52.079 it could just be Nick like in the moment just 731 00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:52.519 having it. 732 00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:53.679 I have a take on that. 733 00:37:54.039 --> 00:37:56.400 What's the take? He likes you and he doesn't like them. 734 00:37:57.639 --> 00:38:02.000 No, seriously, Well, remember my interview was off to the side. 735 00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:06.880 We sat for ten minutes no camera. This one on camera, 736 00:38:08.119 --> 00:38:10.920 and we know how Nick is, you know, I think 737 00:38:10.960 --> 00:38:13.599 he cares about his image. He's persona and he was 738 00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:17.239 just very selective with his words while there was a 739 00:38:17.280 --> 00:38:20.639 camera present. So I think my interview is what he 740 00:38:20.679 --> 00:38:23.400 really feels. But this was he was just you know, 741 00:38:23.519 --> 00:38:27.000 being the the Nick Schulman that people are kind of 742 00:38:27.119 --> 00:38:30.039 accustomed to singing or speaking to. 743 00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:31.320 I like Kaki Nick Schulman. 744 00:38:31.440 --> 00:38:32.119 Oh, I love it too. 745 00:38:32.320 --> 00:38:34.599 You know, I don't like humble Nick Schulman. I like 746 00:38:34.639 --> 00:38:36.960 the cockings. Not not that it was like overly cocky 747 00:38:36.960 --> 00:38:37.800 in a bad way. 748 00:38:37.599 --> 00:38:40.079 But it was it was confident, right rightually cocky. 749 00:38:40.360 --> 00:38:42.199 Yeah, for sure. I mean he is one of the 750 00:38:42.239 --> 00:38:44.679 best players in the world. I think he certainly deserves 751 00:38:45.039 --> 00:38:47.639 to get into the Hall of Fame. I believe I 752 00:38:47.679 --> 00:38:49.840 saw Daniel Legrand new I think it was it was 753 00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:52.519 either in his log or maybe on Twitter. I can't 754 00:38:52.559 --> 00:38:55.719 remember exactly, but he said, you know, he's probably gonna 755 00:38:55.719 --> 00:38:58.360 get in or something like that. But we talked about 756 00:38:58.400 --> 00:38:59.719 this a couple of times now this year. 757 00:38:59.719 --> 00:39:00.000 We talked. 758 00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:01.800 But over the summer. Next year is going to be 759 00:39:01.800 --> 00:39:07.559 interesting because Scott Zever's up right, no one's up like 760 00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:11.000 this is what do you think in those two? I mean, 761 00:39:11.000 --> 00:39:14.079 that's that's very close between those two. Do you have 762 00:39:14.119 --> 00:39:18.199 any other lingering thoughts on WSP Paradise before. 763 00:39:18.039 --> 00:39:21.519 We move on? Yeah, let's move it to January. 764 00:39:21.719 --> 00:39:22.480 Well that's I. 765 00:39:22.440 --> 00:39:26.840 Mean earlier this earlier in November. I don't know, I mean, okay, wait, 766 00:39:26.840 --> 00:39:27.440 wait real quick. 767 00:39:27.639 --> 00:39:29.519 I don't hate moving it to January. I just I 768 00:39:29.599 --> 00:39:33.760 wonder I wonder now if they've now had two years 769 00:39:33.760 --> 00:39:36.960 of this, I would I would think that they view 770 00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:39.639 it as a success. You know, even though it's going 771 00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:41.880 head to head with the WPT World Championship and also 772 00:39:42.000 --> 00:39:44.159 you know, basically head to head with EPT Prog. I 773 00:39:44.199 --> 00:39:47.960 still think that they view it as a success. So 774 00:39:48.519 --> 00:39:50.519 in their mind, like why move it? 775 00:39:51.599 --> 00:39:51.880 Sure? 776 00:39:51.960 --> 00:39:55.320 I mean, how many Americans went to this series is 777 00:39:55.400 --> 00:39:56.199 my first question? 778 00:39:56.480 --> 00:39:58.480 Because you can move it a few going to be 779 00:39:58.480 --> 00:40:01.880 international and then w Sampionship is always going to be USA. 780 00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:04.840 Yeah, but if you move it a little closer to Thanksgiving, 781 00:40:05.280 --> 00:40:08.559 even overlapping Thanksgiving, I think that actually will get you 782 00:40:08.599 --> 00:40:10.519 more numbers, more Americans. 783 00:40:10.639 --> 00:40:13.559 And then then you're going heads up with Seminole. You're going 784 00:40:13.639 --> 00:40:14.920 you're possibly going heads up with. 785 00:40:15.079 --> 00:40:19.079 It's different, completely different event. I guess Seminal's three three 786 00:40:19.199 --> 00:40:21.119 K main event. Seminal will move. 787 00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:24.360 This also has some ten k's, five k's and twenty 788 00:40:24.360 --> 00:40:24.880 five k's. 789 00:40:25.239 --> 00:40:28.760 It has one of those in each. Seminal will move. 790 00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:30.960 I guarantee you Seminal will move their event. 791 00:40:31.440 --> 00:40:33.760 Yeah, but Seminal. First of all, semon will probably already 792 00:40:33.760 --> 00:40:35.440 announced their dates because they usually announced it. 793 00:40:35.480 --> 00:40:36.360 Yeah, they're pretty. 794 00:40:36.119 --> 00:40:38.920 Well in events, not that they announced the full schedules, 795 00:40:38.920 --> 00:40:40.840 but the dates are usually out for the next year. 796 00:40:41.480 --> 00:40:43.960 But Seminal just draws from so many people that are 797 00:40:44.760 --> 00:40:48.280 just in Florida that just literally drive to the casino. Yeah, 798 00:40:48.639 --> 00:40:54.079 all right, WPT World Championship at Win Las Vegas, no guarantee, 799 00:40:54.480 --> 00:40:58.320 No problem, Tim, Because the WPT ten thousand and four 800 00:40:58.320 --> 00:41:02.159 in at All World Championship drew two thousand, three hundred 801 00:41:02.159 --> 00:41:06.199 and ninety two entries. That makes for a twenty three million, 802 00:41:06.280 --> 00:41:10.480 four hundred and forty one thousand dollars prize pool. Remember 803 00:41:10.519 --> 00:41:13.239 the first year they had a fifteen million dollar guarantee, 804 00:41:13.360 --> 00:41:15.400 that was in twenty twenty two, and for twenty twenty 805 00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:18.239 three they upped it to what at the time was 806 00:41:18.280 --> 00:41:21.360 a record for the largest guarantee in live tournament poker, 807 00:41:21.480 --> 00:41:24.119 forty million dollars. They fell about two million dollars short. 808 00:41:24.960 --> 00:41:28.679 This year they ran it back, but no guarantee on 809 00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:32.280 this event, but they still drew well. Listen, I said 810 00:41:32.519 --> 00:41:35.440 coming into it that this would be a test to 811 00:41:36.480 --> 00:41:40.920 the loyalty that the WPT has or claims that it 812 00:41:41.000 --> 00:41:43.440 has with its player base, and I would think that 813 00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:48.400 this is a success in terms of like tapping into 814 00:41:48.440 --> 00:41:53.239 that loyalty because almost twenty four hundred entries came out 815 00:41:53.360 --> 00:41:57.960 for a ten K with no guarantee, which is wild. Now, 816 00:41:57.960 --> 00:42:00.599 it's obviously a big drop off in feel size from 817 00:42:00.679 --> 00:42:05.199 last year, but last year did have a forty million 818 00:42:05.199 --> 00:42:09.079 dollar guarantee. Yes, but twenty four hundred entries. I mean, 819 00:42:09.119 --> 00:42:12.360 that's really, really, really effing good. Let me say that 820 00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:15.159 my concern would be that without a guarantee, you just 821 00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:18.559 continue to see a decline year after year, right, Like 822 00:42:19.079 --> 00:42:21.119 it goes down to twenty four hundred this year, next 823 00:42:21.159 --> 00:42:24.000 year it's two thousand. Year after that it's seventeen hundred, 824 00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:26.079 you know, like that's how it trends over the years. 825 00:42:26.239 --> 00:42:29.599 That would be my concern. That said, the positive side 826 00:42:29.599 --> 00:42:32.400 of this is that I think a lot of people saw, like, 827 00:42:33.159 --> 00:42:36.840 holy crap, they got you know, almost twenty four hundred entries, 828 00:42:36.960 --> 00:42:38.840 more than twenty three million dollars in the prize pool, 829 00:42:38.880 --> 00:42:42.519 Like this is still the event like in December. So 830 00:42:43.079 --> 00:42:44.760 I think there's that side of things. So I have 831 00:42:44.840 --> 00:42:47.079 no idea which way it's gonna go for next year, 832 00:42:48.239 --> 00:42:51.679 but you know, that's kind of my initial opening take there. 833 00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:55.280 Scott Stewart, winner of It All, Your Boy, Stu as 834 00:42:55.320 --> 00:42:58.760 he goes, but I wanted for two million, five hundred 835 00:42:58.760 --> 00:43:01.559 and sixty three thousand dollars. After a deal, he made 836 00:43:01.599 --> 00:43:04.480 a deal three handed. It was Scott Stewart, it was 837 00:43:04.920 --> 00:43:08.599 Rob Sherwood, and it was Edward Pack. The original payouts 838 00:43:08.599 --> 00:43:11.639 were three million, one hundred and thirty eight nine hundred 839 00:43:11.639 --> 00:43:14.599 dollars for first place, which is an absolutely acid nine 840 00:43:14.639 --> 00:43:17.119 first place prize. I'm sorry, why the hell is it 841 00:43:17.199 --> 00:43:20.000 not even? They made every place even and then just 842 00:43:20.039 --> 00:43:23.079 slapped all the extra money on the top spot. Come on, 843 00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:27.280 Matt Savage, come on, this is ridiculous, Like just make 844 00:43:27.320 --> 00:43:30.280 it three point one or three or three point two 845 00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:32.440 or whatever, three point one five? 846 00:43:33.159 --> 00:43:33.559 Not this? 847 00:43:34.199 --> 00:43:36.440 Yeah, why does every other spot clean? And this one 848 00:43:36.519 --> 00:43:39.480 is a disaster? Anyway, you guys know that's my gripe. 849 00:43:39.480 --> 00:43:41.119 That's always my gripe with these things. 850 00:43:41.440 --> 00:43:41.840 Anyway. 851 00:43:42.320 --> 00:43:45.880 After the deal, Scott Stewart goes on to win two million, 852 00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:47.840 five hundred and sixty three thousand dollars for him, Rob 853 00:43:47.880 --> 00:43:50.079 Sherwood got two point two million, and the Edward Park 854 00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:54.679 got two million. The original payouts were first place three 855 00:43:54.719 --> 00:43:57.320 point one three eight, second place two million and seventy 856 00:43:57.320 --> 00:44:01.280 five thousand, third place one point five five million, so 857 00:44:01.840 --> 00:44:04.239 really really good scores for all three of these players. 858 00:44:04.320 --> 00:44:08.159 The final table was once again a super fun one. 859 00:44:08.920 --> 00:44:10.639 Last year was a lot of fun. You had a 860 00:44:10.639 --> 00:44:13.360 lot of really cool hands, a lot of really big names, 861 00:44:13.400 --> 00:44:16.400 some really high level poker. This year maybe not the 862 00:44:16.440 --> 00:44:18.719 star power that you got last year, other than Chris 863 00:44:18.760 --> 00:44:21.159 Mormon returning, which we'll hit on in a second. But 864 00:44:21.760 --> 00:44:24.079 in the first like what two or three orbits, there 865 00:44:24.199 --> 00:44:26.480 was I think three eliminations. It was like boom, boom boom, 866 00:44:26.480 --> 00:44:29.119 like here we go. Then there was like an extended 867 00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:32.440 period of time without much happening in terms of eliminations, 868 00:44:32.480 --> 00:44:34.599 but there were still some big pots. Then we get 869 00:44:34.599 --> 00:44:37.239 to heads up play. It looks like Scott Stewart's gonna 870 00:44:37.480 --> 00:44:41.159 close things out really quickly against Sherwood, but Sherwood spikes 871 00:44:41.159 --> 00:44:43.760 an ace with ah Jack against Queen's storms all the 872 00:44:43.800 --> 00:44:45.880 way back. Then it's Stuart that's short and then he 873 00:44:46.000 --> 00:44:47.960 comes all the way back and it's just this whole thing. 874 00:44:48.199 --> 00:44:51.480 The whole time, Stuart's drinking, having an FN blast. He's 875 00:44:51.480 --> 00:44:54.639 got this Bud Wiser hat that just I think said 876 00:44:54.679 --> 00:44:57.760 Bud King of Beers on it that looked nineteen seventy 877 00:44:57.760 --> 00:45:00.320 four and was he wore every single day since then. 878 00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:03.920 Just absolutely dirty as all hell. It was great. He 879 00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:06.719 was chugging beers, he was having fun with his rail. 880 00:45:06.800 --> 00:45:09.159 His rail was out of control, which is great. He's 881 00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:12.400 one of the most fun players to play with. He's 882 00:45:13.039 --> 00:45:16.760 just loves life, loves playing poker like he's entertaining at 883 00:45:16.760 --> 00:45:19.719 the table. He plays super fast, like you know, it's 884 00:45:19.800 --> 00:45:21.239 just great, and I think a lot of that was 885 00:45:21.280 --> 00:45:24.400 on display at this final table. He's also really good 886 00:45:24.800 --> 00:45:27.119 at poker as well, which is, you know, of course, 887 00:45:27.159 --> 00:45:32.760 a great thing. His rail was out of control, rambunctious, 888 00:45:33.000 --> 00:45:37.639 drinking all night, having a blast. They were chanting Stu 889 00:45:38.320 --> 00:45:40.800 sa Usa, but you know they put. 890 00:45:40.639 --> 00:45:41.599 Stu's pretty good. 891 00:45:42.239 --> 00:45:44.519 I watched a bit of the final table, had to 892 00:45:44.559 --> 00:45:46.119 cut it off early because it was going way too 893 00:45:46.199 --> 00:45:49.599 damn late, and then watch the watch what I missed 894 00:45:50.239 --> 00:45:52.480 this morning. What are your thoughts on the event, mister Stewart, 895 00:45:52.599 --> 00:45:56.000 I don't know, give me whatever, I mean twenty come on. 896 00:45:56.400 --> 00:45:59.719 Yeah, I guess. Let's talk about the guarantee. I think 897 00:45:59.719 --> 00:46:01.480 they know kind of what this is going to be. 898 00:46:01.519 --> 00:46:04.679 No guarantee, sure, that's what I'm meant to say, yes, 899 00:46:05.280 --> 00:46:08.800 the lack of guarantee twenty three million in the prize pool. 900 00:46:09.079 --> 00:46:12.360 That seems to be about where this event will be 901 00:46:12.400 --> 00:46:15.400 going forward if everything remains, you know, in a standing. 902 00:46:16.039 --> 00:46:17.960 I don't think they need to put a guarantee next year. 903 00:46:18.400 --> 00:46:20.559 They'll just know that then hey, we're probably going to 904 00:46:20.599 --> 00:46:23.320 get around twenty to twenty five million in the prize 905 00:46:23.360 --> 00:46:27.119 pool pending other things, and I think that's fine. I 906 00:46:27.119 --> 00:46:30.320 don't think anyone. I didn't see too many people griping 907 00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:34.599 about the no guarantee. Obviously, they added the five million 908 00:46:34.599 --> 00:46:38.920 dollar Club Invitational free roll, so that did help soothe 909 00:46:38.960 --> 00:46:39.960 some people's complaints. 910 00:46:40.000 --> 00:46:41.960 But no, it was a great event. 911 00:46:43.199 --> 00:46:44.880 It was a lot of Yeah, I watched a lot 912 00:46:44.920 --> 00:46:47.079 of this and I didn't watch that much of the 913 00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:49.880 final table, but it was good to just watch some 914 00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:52.280 quality poker for the last week. 915 00:46:53.719 --> 00:46:57.880 It's going to be very interesting to see what happens 916 00:46:58.000 --> 00:47:01.079 with this event next year. You know. This year, I 917 00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:04.159 think a couple things were working very much in their 918 00:47:04.199 --> 00:47:07.400 favor that helped push them to a really, really good 919 00:47:07.480 --> 00:47:11.320 number of twenty four hundred entries. One is drawing off 920 00:47:11.360 --> 00:47:14.440 of last year and really the last two years of 921 00:47:14.480 --> 00:47:19.199 this event, where this event has become essentially it can't 922 00:47:19.199 --> 00:47:22.519 miss event. Right. The win is an incredible place to 923 00:47:22.519 --> 00:47:26.840 play poker. They do things great, the property is freaking awesome, right. 924 00:47:26.880 --> 00:47:29.239 It's my favorite place to play. I love it there. 925 00:47:29.599 --> 00:47:32.719 The staff does things right, the fields are generally good, 926 00:47:32.760 --> 00:47:35.440 all that sort of stuff. You combine that with the 927 00:47:35.480 --> 00:47:39.239 World Poker Tour, which is known for like having this 928 00:47:39.599 --> 00:47:44.119 awesome brand, doing things right, really like dressing things up nicely, 929 00:47:44.480 --> 00:47:47.519 all that sort of stuff. Right, So you build up 930 00:47:47.519 --> 00:47:50.039 this event, and even though you missed the guarantee last 931 00:47:50.079 --> 00:47:52.199 year by a couple million, and even though you didn't 932 00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:54.400 have a guarantee this year, I think there was still 933 00:47:54.440 --> 00:47:57.480 that hangover from last year in a good way, right, 934 00:47:57.559 --> 00:47:59.599 So I think people were still very much looking forward 935 00:47:59.679 --> 00:48:04.039 to to this year. Now. Will that hangover carry over 936 00:48:04.159 --> 00:48:06.760 into the next year, That's just my question. I don't know. 937 00:48:06.880 --> 00:48:10.280 I would like to think yes, because, like I said earlier, 938 00:48:11.000 --> 00:48:13.960 I think there was enough loyalty that was shown by 939 00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:16.920 having nearly twenty four hundred entries without a forty million 940 00:48:16.920 --> 00:48:20.400 dollar guarantee or any sort of crazy guarantee on it 941 00:48:20.519 --> 00:48:22.639 that I think there is enough there that it's going 942 00:48:22.679 --> 00:48:24.800 to do all right. The second thing that I think 943 00:48:24.960 --> 00:48:27.159 helped play it in the to their success last year 944 00:48:27.159 --> 00:48:29.559 that I don't know that they're going to have next 945 00:48:29.639 --> 00:48:32.519 year or how they'll have it next year or whatnot, 946 00:48:32.599 --> 00:48:34.679 is they had you referenced it already, the five million 947 00:48:34.719 --> 00:48:38.559 dollar Club WPT gold free role that then awarded one 948 00:48:38.639 --> 00:48:42.079 hundred seats into this event. So you had that which 949 00:48:42.119 --> 00:48:44.880 people now, I know it's only one hundred out of 950 00:48:44.880 --> 00:48:47.760 twenty four hundred, but a lot of people in that 951 00:48:47.800 --> 00:48:51.159 free roles as WPT itself, you know, or Club WPT 952 00:48:51.199 --> 00:48:52.840 I should say, put out there on social media, like 953 00:48:52.880 --> 00:48:54.800 had never played a buy in above five hundred dollars. 954 00:48:54.840 --> 00:48:56.920 So a lot of those people you knew could be 955 00:48:56.960 --> 00:48:59.800 winning into this event had like never played big poker 956 00:48:59.800 --> 00:49:02.079 turn that certainly never entered a ten k before. So 957 00:49:02.480 --> 00:49:04.360 if you're on the outside looking in, you're like, oh, 958 00:49:04.400 --> 00:49:06.039 there's gonna be a decent amount of value there with 959 00:49:06.079 --> 00:49:08.719 those people getting in. You probably also have to consider 960 00:49:08.760 --> 00:49:10.719 that there were some people that won money in that 961 00:49:10.760 --> 00:49:14.960 event that might have then parlayed it into the ten k, 962 00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:17.280 or maybe they parlayed it into playing one of those 963 00:49:17.280 --> 00:49:19.119 eleven hundred dollars satellites that were given out of a 964 00:49:19.119 --> 00:49:20.480 lot of seats, and they want a seat and they 965 00:49:20.480 --> 00:49:22.599 got in that way. So what I'm getting at is, 966 00:49:23.880 --> 00:49:26.159 are they going to do something similar in terms of 967 00:49:26.199 --> 00:49:29.519 the five million dollar guarantee, sorry, the five million dollar 968 00:49:29.519 --> 00:49:33.559 free roll next year that then drives people into this event. 969 00:49:34.159 --> 00:49:36.320 I don't know. That's that's still yet to be seen, so, 970 00:49:36.800 --> 00:49:38.679 you know, but that that did seem like it was 971 00:49:38.880 --> 00:49:43.760 like this initial marketing effort for Club WPT gold. And 972 00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:46.159 because in a year's time, you're not going to need 973 00:49:46.159 --> 00:49:49.880 that initial thing, so do you have that again? And 974 00:49:49.960 --> 00:49:52.079 if you don't have that again, like, does it just 975 00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:53.800 cause numbers to kind of take a little bit of 976 00:49:53.800 --> 00:49:55.960 a dip. Now I'm not saying that this is going 977 00:49:56.039 --> 00:49:57.960 to go from twenty four hundred down to one thousand. 978 00:49:57.960 --> 00:50:00.239 I don't think that that's ever gonna happen. But you know, 979 00:50:00.320 --> 00:50:02.159 like I said, it could go twenty four hundred to 980 00:50:02.239 --> 00:50:04.480 twenty one hundred and then it just goes to eighteen hundred. 981 00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:06.159 Then you know, it just like a small trickle in 982 00:50:06.199 --> 00:50:08.079 the wrong direction, and you just don't want to see 983 00:50:08.079 --> 00:50:09.480 that over time. You want to just see it at 984 00:50:09.559 --> 00:50:12.440 least in the worst thing just kind of plateau. You know, 985 00:50:12.719 --> 00:50:14.320 maybe it goes up a little bit each year, down 986 00:50:14.320 --> 00:50:17.079 a little bit, but it's just generally around this number forever, 987 00:50:17.159 --> 00:50:19.119 like that's ultimately what you want to see. So that's 988 00:50:19.159 --> 00:50:21.760 just kind of like right now where I sit, like 989 00:50:21.840 --> 00:50:25.920 my questions for next year already. I didn't play it. 990 00:50:26.000 --> 00:50:28.440 I sat on the sidelines. You did play it because 991 00:50:28.800 --> 00:50:32.599 one of those one hundred that pulled a seat. There 992 00:50:32.639 --> 00:50:35.639 you go, buddy. I didn't play it because I was 993 00:50:36.760 --> 00:50:38.400 I didn't know if the value would be there. 994 00:50:39.400 --> 00:50:41.239 I'm not I was in the field. Of course the 995 00:50:41.320 --> 00:50:41.920 value was there. 996 00:50:42.000 --> 00:50:44.920 Yeah, you're one of twenty four hundred. I mean, listen, 997 00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:48.400 most people I talked to, I felt like their tables 998 00:50:48.440 --> 00:50:54.440 were fairly difficult for the most part. Like, you know, 999 00:50:55.559 --> 00:50:58.039 so I don't know. So I'm not like, I'm not 1000 00:50:58.079 --> 00:50:59.519 bummed out at all that I missed it or it 1001 00:50:59.559 --> 00:51:02.039 didn't play right. I did play a satellite for it. 1002 00:51:02.719 --> 00:51:04.639 I thought that I played the eleven hund dollar satellite 1003 00:51:04.639 --> 00:51:06.760 was seventy five seats guaranteed that I think gave away 1004 00:51:06.800 --> 00:51:08.039 like one hundred and twenty five or a hundred and 1005 00:51:08.079 --> 00:51:10.320 thirty seats guaranteed. That thing was an absolute shit show. 1006 00:51:10.440 --> 00:51:12.360 It was just so many people in that tournament. It 1007 00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:14.880 was a little wild. So I don't know, I don't 1008 00:51:14.920 --> 00:51:16.440 I don't know what's going to happen. Maybe you also 1009 00:51:16.480 --> 00:51:19.440 get in now, I guess going the other way to someone, 1010 00:51:19.480 --> 00:51:21.280 my concerns that I just laid out would be like, 1011 00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:24.320 do you get people that maybe said, mmm, I did 1012 00:51:24.320 --> 00:51:26.920 the Bahama thing. I don't know, or maybe Bahamas doesn't 1013 00:51:26.960 --> 00:51:29.639 run it back with the value that maybe they had 1014 00:51:29.760 --> 00:51:32.199 this year. Maybe they don't do a fifty million dollar guarantee, 1015 00:51:32.239 --> 00:51:34.000 maybe they don't pump all these people into it. I 1016 00:51:34.079 --> 00:51:36.159 don't know. But then maybe some of those people just say, 1017 00:51:36.159 --> 00:51:37.920 you know what, I'm going to stay in Las Vegas, 1018 00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:40.639 and that may maybe that makes the numbers uptick, you know. 1019 00:51:40.719 --> 00:51:42.239 So there's just like almost to go the other way 1020 00:51:42.280 --> 00:51:45.159 where people that have done win a couple of times 1021 00:51:45.199 --> 00:51:46.519 now they're like, you know what, I'm going to go 1022 00:51:46.559 --> 00:51:49.400 to Bahamas next yea, So it can go both ways. 1023 00:51:49.440 --> 00:51:51.159 I don't think you're ever going to get those people. 1024 00:51:51.239 --> 00:51:54.480 And the reason why I say that is because win 1025 00:51:54.719 --> 00:51:56.400 is so much better than the Bahamas. 1026 00:51:56.639 --> 00:51:58.480 I'm sorry, Yeah, but happen if you have a family, 1027 00:51:58.679 --> 00:52:00.239 you want to go to the beach for a couple 1028 00:52:00.239 --> 00:52:00.840 of weeks. 1029 00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:03.039 No, the win is always gonna win. 1030 00:52:03.760 --> 00:52:05.880 It should, yes, but we don't have some of these 1031 00:52:05.880 --> 00:52:06.440 people think. 1032 00:52:07.039 --> 00:52:09.199 Yeah, I mean I think the I think like WSP 1033 00:52:09.280 --> 00:52:11.480 Paradise is gonna win for the people that want to play, 1034 00:52:11.519 --> 00:52:13.920 like fifty k's, one hundred k's, you know, two hundred 1035 00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:15.559 and fifty k's like all that sort of crazy high 1036 00:52:15.559 --> 00:52:18.800 stuff like the Triton crowd essentially, right, But then I 1037 00:52:18.840 --> 00:52:22.119 think for for most other people, like it's just gonna 1038 00:52:22.159 --> 00:52:23.440 be the win, and it's always going to be the win, 1039 00:52:23.440 --> 00:52:27.079 and it's gonna be this WPT World Championship. So so yeah, 1040 00:52:27.119 --> 00:52:29.199 I mean there's just a lot to be I guess 1041 00:52:29.800 --> 00:52:33.000 worked out or seen from what happens from this series 1042 00:52:33.000 --> 00:52:35.960 going forward. But anyway, Scott Stewart winning it all his 1043 00:52:36.119 --> 00:52:41.559 first seven figure score. Back in twenty seventeen, he came 1044 00:52:41.719 --> 00:52:44.840 thirteenth in the WSP main event for five hundred and 1045 00:52:44.840 --> 00:52:50.440 thirty five thousand dollars. He has six WSP circuit rings, 1046 00:52:50.760 --> 00:52:55.280 but this is of course his largest and career defining victory. 1047 00:52:55.320 --> 00:52:59.000 Really great for Scott's great guy, you know, he's certainly 1048 00:53:00.239 --> 00:53:02.280 one of the good guys in poker. Somebody that that 1049 00:53:02.480 --> 00:53:05.800 is definitely like if he's playing on a stream or 1050 00:53:05.800 --> 00:53:07.519 if he's playing on a table, like he's gonna he's 1051 00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:09.639 gonna make it fun. He's not gonna slow the game 1052 00:53:09.719 --> 00:53:11.920 down like he's he's gonna go for it at spots. 1053 00:53:11.960 --> 00:53:13.679 He pulled this bluff at this final table. I don't 1054 00:53:13.679 --> 00:53:14.880 know if you saw it, when the board had a 1055 00:53:14.880 --> 00:53:17.599 full house on it and Sherwood I think led the 1056 00:53:17.679 --> 00:53:21.039 river and Scott raised all in with I think seven 1057 00:53:21.119 --> 00:53:23.199 high like it was. It was jack nine nine to 1058 00:53:23.239 --> 00:53:27.840 nine jack and Sherwood had king high and Scott just 1059 00:53:27.880 --> 00:53:30.440 went for it with a bluff on the river and 1060 00:53:30.639 --> 00:53:32.519 moved all in and got it done, which is, you know, 1061 00:53:32.920 --> 00:53:34.760 takes a lot to go for it in that moment. 1062 00:53:34.800 --> 00:53:37.679 Of course, of course, Scott had some big hands as well. 1063 00:53:37.679 --> 00:53:39.480 He had aces a couple of times at the final table. 1064 00:53:39.519 --> 00:53:42.639 He had aces against Christian Roberts's Ace Queen to take 1065 00:53:42.719 --> 00:53:45.800 him out in sixth place. He had aces against Edward 1066 00:53:45.880 --> 00:53:48.400 Park in a crazy hand where you know, Park maybe 1067 00:53:48.400 --> 00:53:51.159 shouldn't have been in their pre flop, but he was. Nonetheless, 1068 00:53:51.159 --> 00:53:53.760 and uh, Scott Scott Stewart won a big pot there, 1069 00:53:53.840 --> 00:53:58.039 so great performance by Scott Stewart, great winner for him, 1070 00:53:58.079 --> 00:54:01.239 two point five million dollars. Robert Sher again second place, 1071 00:54:01.239 --> 00:54:04.159 two point two million. Edward Park third place, two million dollars. 1072 00:54:04.239 --> 00:54:06.159 Chris Mormon said we were going to hit on him, 1073 00:54:06.199 --> 00:54:10.039 so let's hit on him. Last year Chris Mormon fourth 1074 00:54:10.079 --> 00:54:12.280 place for what was it? Last year? It was like 1075 00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:15.000 two million and something thousand and two eight thousand, something 1076 00:54:15.079 --> 00:54:19.199 like that. This year fourth place again Chris Mormon one 1077 00:54:19.239 --> 00:54:23.519 point one five million dollars. This year for Mormon, Ryan 1078 00:54:23.639 --> 00:54:25.800 you got fifth for eight hundred and seventy five K. 1079 00:54:25.840 --> 00:54:28.440 I mentioned Christian Roberts being taken out by Stewart. He 1080 00:54:28.559 --> 00:54:32.199 bounced in sixth place for six hundred and sixty five 1081 00:54:32.360 --> 00:54:36.840 thousand dollars. Some other notable finishes. You had Brian Yun 1082 00:54:36.960 --> 00:54:39.440 finishing in eleventh place for two hundred and fifty five K. 1083 00:54:39.480 --> 00:54:42.119 You had aj Kelsall had no idea he knew how 1084 00:54:42.119 --> 00:54:44.039 to play. No liamit hold him, but here he is 1085 00:54:44.639 --> 00:54:47.960 aj Kelsall of course out of mixed game fame. Two 1086 00:54:48.000 --> 00:54:52.239 hundred and fifteen thousand dollars for him. Mikita bad Ziyakowski 1087 00:54:52.480 --> 00:54:54.960 nineteenth for one hundred and seventy six K. He was 1088 00:54:55.000 --> 00:54:57.360 in the Bahamas and then he came here to Vega. 1089 00:54:57.519 --> 00:54:59.519 Playing this event. Took nineteenth for one hundred and seventy 1090 00:54:59.519 --> 00:55:02.079 six Thousan Paul Volpi twenty eighth for one hundred and 1091 00:55:02.079 --> 00:55:05.239 twenty one thousand, Michael Rosito thirty ninth for one hundred 1092 00:55:05.239 --> 00:55:10.239 and one thousand, Isaac Baron fiftieth and Neil Farrell fifty fifth. 1093 00:55:10.320 --> 00:55:13.280 Both of them took home seventy one K. Naddia Magnus 1094 00:55:13.719 --> 00:55:17.079 sixty third for fifty nine thousand dollars. Eric Nobody loves 1095 00:55:17.119 --> 00:55:21.280 it more Baldwin seventy first for fifty K, Ryan Tassik 1096 00:55:21.440 --> 00:55:24.599 seventy fifth for fifty K. Martin Jacobson, former WSP Made 1097 00:55:24.599 --> 00:55:27.280 Event champion, He got eighty fifth for forty two K. 1098 00:55:27.360 --> 00:55:31.320 Joey Ingram did not know he played the two card variant, 1099 00:55:31.360 --> 00:55:33.880 but here he is ninety first place for forty two K. 1100 00:55:34.000 --> 00:55:37.000 David ODB Baker one hundred and fourth for thirty five thousand, 1101 00:55:37.039 --> 00:55:40.440 five hundred dollars. You put it on the rundown. I 1102 00:55:40.559 --> 00:55:44.079 was just gonna ask where did you finish, sir? You 1103 00:55:44.119 --> 00:55:44.679 played in this. 1104 00:55:44.679 --> 00:55:47.280 Event three hundred and ninetieth place. 1105 00:55:48.239 --> 00:55:51.480 You're the only person in the universe who looks at 1106 00:55:51.519 --> 00:55:52.679 the place they busted out. 1107 00:55:52.760 --> 00:55:54.880 And I got to put it in my app. You 1108 00:55:54.880 --> 00:55:57.119 don't have a tracking app. You you have to have 1109 00:55:57.119 --> 00:55:58.920 the app way you busted. So I looked at the clock. 1110 00:55:59.440 --> 00:56:01.679 I don't have a tracking up. I used a Google sheet. 1111 00:56:02.679 --> 00:56:05.119 It was the clock said three ninety two, and then 1112 00:56:05.280 --> 00:56:07.960 I walked away, and then I said three eighty eight. 1113 00:56:08.239 --> 00:56:11.760 So I just middled it three nine. Ye done, got it. 1114 00:56:11.960 --> 00:56:14.039 Probably it's probably even better than it's probably really like. 1115 00:56:15.480 --> 00:56:21.719 Yeah, yeah, I mean good, good run by you. It 1116 00:56:21.840 --> 00:56:23.239 was fun either your best shot. 1117 00:56:23.440 --> 00:56:25.039 Hey, look, I had someone. 1118 00:56:25.199 --> 00:56:29.400 Since went two thousand and seven. When the last time 1119 00:56:29.400 --> 00:56:29.880 you played a ten? 1120 00:56:30.079 --> 00:56:32.400 Yeah, two thousand and seven. I did. 1121 00:56:32.639 --> 00:56:35.679 Someone did message me and say that said that I 1122 00:56:35.679 --> 00:56:40.079 think it's not up for debate but anymore. But I 1123 00:56:40.119 --> 00:56:43.400 am the best no limit holding player on the podcast. 1124 00:56:43.840 --> 00:56:46.079 I mean, says the guy who was texting me hand 1125 00:56:46.679 --> 00:56:48.880 questions the entire fucking tournament that he was playing. 1126 00:56:49.840 --> 00:56:52.159 Hey, results speak, That's what I'm going to say. 1127 00:56:52.119 --> 00:56:55.079 Yeah, well cash there in the main, I was an 1128 00:56:55.159 --> 00:56:56.079 absolute idiot. 1129 00:56:57.719 --> 00:57:00.639 Look, we took a risk we took, had to bust 1130 00:57:00.639 --> 00:57:01.880 the guy in the work. 1131 00:57:02.039 --> 00:57:06.039 I got it all right, Well, what are your overall 1132 00:57:06.079 --> 00:57:08.960 thoughts on this event, if you have any more of them? 1133 00:57:09.079 --> 00:57:10.519 I think I played sensational. 1134 00:57:11.039 --> 00:57:14.920 It was unfortunate enough to cash in all seriousness at 1135 00:57:14.920 --> 00:57:17.360 the main event. I would say a lot of people 1136 00:57:17.599 --> 00:57:20.079 wouldn't have expected them to get the twenty four hundred 1137 00:57:20.079 --> 00:57:21.960 players they got the two three nine two. 1138 00:57:22.199 --> 00:57:26.000 I did not. I am pleasantly surprised. I talked to 1139 00:57:26.039 --> 00:57:29.880 some people at the WPT. I think they're all very, 1140 00:57:30.039 --> 00:57:33.239 very very happy with the number, as they should be 1141 00:57:34.079 --> 00:57:34.920 and win two. 1142 00:57:35.920 --> 00:57:39.440 So so yeah, they made some incredible They made a 1143 00:57:39.559 --> 00:57:43.679 very underrated decision that maybe not a lot of people 1144 00:57:44.079 --> 00:57:47.400 know about. That they kind of forced all those the 1145 00:57:47.639 --> 00:57:51.320 big satellite winners. Was the seventy five C guarantee you 1146 00:57:51.400 --> 00:57:56.199 had to play one A. So that's always going to 1147 00:57:56.280 --> 00:57:59.920 help with the final number. One A is always the smallest, 1148 00:58:00.360 --> 00:58:02.800 but you know, you get the satellite players in there, 1149 00:58:02.840 --> 00:58:05.280 maybe they have to re enter. You get some of 1150 00:58:05.320 --> 00:58:07.320 the pros playing that day to try and take advantage 1151 00:58:07.320 --> 00:58:10.480 of the satellite players. So I think that was a 1152 00:58:10.480 --> 00:58:11.639 great decision by the win. 1153 00:58:12.079 --> 00:58:15.480 Well, let me say that because of that you had 1154 00:58:15.880 --> 00:58:17.719 you had one A had seven hundred and fifty one 1155 00:58:17.840 --> 00:58:20.079 entries and one B at six eighty one, which you 1156 00:58:20.159 --> 00:58:22.400 like never see a divis though you always see it 1157 00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:24.320 go up by the days. But that could also be 1158 00:58:24.360 --> 00:58:26.280 the fact that they started it on a Saturday. 1159 00:58:26.400 --> 00:58:29.119 Yeah, this football Sunday Sunday, and. 1160 00:58:29.159 --> 00:58:31.199 That My biggest gripe from this series is they need 1161 00:58:31.199 --> 00:58:33.719 to start the two marquee events on better days Prime 1162 00:58:33.880 --> 00:58:34.400 and this. 1163 00:58:34.920 --> 00:58:36.840 I agree with them, but I mean, they still got 1164 00:58:36.840 --> 00:58:38.760 great numbers for both, but yeah, it could they could 1165 00:58:38.840 --> 00:58:41.599 do what maybe they do five percent better, but five 1166 00:58:41.639 --> 00:58:43.920 percent in both events is huge. 1167 00:58:44.320 --> 00:58:51.760 So my my biggest gripe with this series as a whole. 1168 00:58:51.800 --> 00:58:53.920 But it also I think it happened maybe in this 1169 00:58:54.039 --> 00:58:56.199 WT World Championship, I can't remember. It definitely happened in 1170 00:58:56.239 --> 00:59:00.440 Prime for sure, is that the win now uses pokes. 1171 00:59:01.599 --> 00:59:05.400 Poker Atlas should have a better way for them to 1172 00:59:05.440 --> 00:59:08.920 do alternates. Like when you go to a restaurant and 1173 00:59:08.960 --> 00:59:10.639 you put your name on the wait list and they 1174 00:59:10.639 --> 00:59:12.360 say can we have your phone number and then they 1175 00:59:12.400 --> 00:59:15.000 text you when your table is ready. That should be 1176 00:59:15.000 --> 00:59:19.159 how this works. They text you when your alternate number 1177 00:59:19.159 --> 00:59:21.519 is ready, or they text you and they say we're 1178 00:59:21.559 --> 00:59:24.119 now accepting alternates four fifty through five to fifty. So 1179 00:59:24.199 --> 00:59:26.320 if you know that your ticket falls within that window, 1180 00:59:26.760 --> 00:59:29.760 you go like none of this, like standing outside in 1181 00:59:29.760 --> 00:59:31.760 the hallway with lines and whatever. And this is the 1182 00:59:31.800 --> 00:59:35.000 same thing that I said about the NAPT Las Vegas event. 1183 00:59:35.599 --> 00:59:39.440 These places now need to start putting tournament clocks and 1184 00:59:39.599 --> 00:59:45.760 information screens in the hallways because they have them all 1185 00:59:45.760 --> 00:59:48.760 throughout the tournament rooms. Yes, and that's great, but when 1186 00:59:48.760 --> 00:59:52.079 you have so many people and such long alternates and 1187 00:59:52.199 --> 00:59:54.800 breaks and multiple events and all this sort of stuff, 1188 00:59:55.000 --> 00:59:57.880 just put them in the hallways. People can see them 1189 00:59:57.880 --> 00:59:59.760 and look at them and say, oh, okay, my tournament's 1190 00:59:59.760 --> 01:00:02.000 on bre for another three minutes, you know, all that 1191 01:00:02.039 --> 01:00:03.960 sort of stuff. So I think that that's like something 1192 01:00:03.960 --> 01:00:06.199 that I want to see mostly across the board and poker. 1193 01:00:06.239 --> 01:00:09.159 But it did come come up at the WPT World Championship. 1194 01:00:09.280 --> 01:00:11.000 I would probably say that this is probably the biggest 1195 01:00:11.000 --> 01:00:15.679 event poker out list is done regarding alternates. Probably pretty 1196 01:00:15.679 --> 01:00:19.000 confident to say that. So it's probably something they haven't 1197 01:00:19.039 --> 01:00:21.440 thought of, and it's a good point. You should probably 1198 01:00:21.440 --> 01:00:23.039 bring it up with poker out lists. Like I've brought 1199 01:00:23.119 --> 01:00:28.239 up some things before, if everyone's going to start adopting 1200 01:00:28.280 --> 01:00:33.920 poker out lest as they preferred, you know, tournament management system, Yeah, 1201 01:00:33.960 --> 01:00:37.239 there's definitely some tweaks that can be made to kind 1202 01:00:37.280 --> 01:00:38.519 of better the whole product. 1203 01:00:38.840 --> 01:00:40.840 And then I think I know your answer to this question, 1204 01:00:40.880 --> 01:00:43.960 but would you deem this event a success despite the 1205 01:00:44.000 --> 01:00:45.760 fact that they didn't have the big guarantee. 1206 01:00:46.639 --> 01:00:47.599 Yeah, one hundred percent. 1207 01:00:48.239 --> 01:00:51.920 With the pending question, as you know, was it a 1208 01:00:51.960 --> 01:00:54.960 success only because of the free roll? I'm not sure 1209 01:00:55.000 --> 01:00:56.880 if that is. You know, obviously the free roll put 1210 01:00:56.880 --> 01:01:01.079 in one hundred players. Maybe when it's all said and done, 1211 01:01:01.320 --> 01:01:05.079 two hundred players played due to the free roll in 1212 01:01:05.119 --> 01:01:08.599 some in some way. But it does show that, like 1213 01:01:09.079 --> 01:01:12.840 we keep touching on WPT brand, it's strong, win Poker 1214 01:01:12.880 --> 01:01:17.119 brand is strong, Vegas is strong, and if you don't 1215 01:01:17.159 --> 01:01:20.239 have the free roll on XCA, I would still probably 1216 01:01:20.239 --> 01:01:23.400 bet that, Hey, we're probably gonna get close to twenty two, 1217 01:01:23.480 --> 01:01:27.039 twenty three, twenty four hundred players again, so yeah, definitely 1218 01:01:27.440 --> 01:01:30.280 definitely success even without the guarantee. 1219 01:01:30.679 --> 01:01:34.159 Yeah, I would agree with you. I will say that, Listen, 1220 01:01:34.199 --> 01:01:37.400 I played a lot during the series. I was there 1221 01:01:37.440 --> 01:01:41.559 at the win probably every other day, you know, if 1222 01:01:41.599 --> 01:01:46.159 not more than that. I'm happy that eventually the buzz 1223 01:01:46.639 --> 01:01:50.840 turned to the WPT World Championship, because I felt early on, 1224 01:01:51.559 --> 01:01:53.400 for like the first week, week and a half or 1225 01:01:53.440 --> 01:01:56.599 so of this series, that the buzz was only about 1226 01:01:56.639 --> 01:01:59.519 the free roll yeah, because there was no buzz about 1227 01:01:59.559 --> 01:02:02.360 the World Tchampionship, whereas last year and the year before, 1228 01:02:02.440 --> 01:02:05.480 I felt the buzz was about the World Championship and 1229 01:02:05.519 --> 01:02:07.880 like really only the World Championship the first year, of course, 1230 01:02:07.920 --> 01:02:10.119 because it was this fifteen million dollar guarantee, like, oh 1231 01:02:10.119 --> 01:02:11.840 my god, this is going to be massive, blah blah 1232 01:02:11.840 --> 01:02:14.639 blah whatever. Next year it's like, holy shit, forty million 1233 01:02:14.679 --> 01:02:17.599 dollar guarantee, Like this is insane whatever like that, that 1234 01:02:17.679 --> 01:02:20.760 was all the buzz this year. Like the only thing 1235 01:02:20.800 --> 01:02:22.400 I think that mattered was people were like, how do 1236 01:02:22.440 --> 01:02:23.920 I get a free roll ticket? How do I get 1237 01:02:24.000 --> 01:02:26.119 a golden passport? Like how do I get that? Up 1238 01:02:26.199 --> 01:02:29.920 until like that eleven hundred dollars seventy five set guarantee 1239 01:02:29.960 --> 01:02:32.440 satellite that I played in, which was like a day 1240 01:02:32.519 --> 01:02:35.760 or two before the start of the ten K, Like 1241 01:02:36.039 --> 01:02:39.960 it was all about the free roll that's at like 1242 01:02:40.000 --> 01:02:42.800 that's all that it was about. And I was in 1243 01:02:42.840 --> 01:02:45.719 my head, I'm like that kind of seems like it's 1244 01:02:45.760 --> 01:02:48.960 taking away what the point of this is, Like it's 1245 01:02:49.119 --> 01:02:52.320 the point of it is the World Championship, like in 1246 01:02:52.360 --> 01:02:55.679 my in my opinion right like and not that the 1247 01:02:55.679 --> 01:02:58.280 there's not obviously a lot of importance to the free 1248 01:02:58.360 --> 01:03:02.199 roll because that is a marketing for Club VPT Gold. Yes, 1249 01:03:02.320 --> 01:03:06.519 but like I felt like there was no real talk 1250 01:03:06.559 --> 01:03:10.119 about like the ten k itself, whereas in years past 1251 01:03:10.159 --> 01:03:11.400 it was like how do I get into the ten k? 1252 01:03:11.440 --> 01:03:12.800 How do I get into the ten k? How like 1253 01:03:12.800 --> 01:03:13.960 how do I get in there? Like what do I 1254 01:03:13.960 --> 01:03:15.960 gotta do? I gotta sell action, maybe I hit a score, 1255 01:03:16.000 --> 01:03:17.679 maybe I play one of these satellites, all that sort 1256 01:03:17.719 --> 01:03:20.320 of stuff, whereas this year was only about the free 1257 01:03:20.440 --> 01:03:23.119 roll really, like that's all people. People wanted a free 1258 01:03:23.199 --> 01:03:27.119 roll ticket so so so bad, you know, So I 1259 01:03:27.159 --> 01:03:31.159 just thought that that was interesting. So then I guess again, 1260 01:03:31.360 --> 01:03:33.480 like kind of you know, to what we've been talking about, 1261 01:03:33.840 --> 01:03:36.280 how does that buzz look next year if they don't 1262 01:03:36.280 --> 01:03:39.800 have the free roll, I would say that the buzz 1263 01:03:40.119 --> 01:03:43.679 is probably going to be about prime I heard that 1264 01:03:43.679 --> 01:03:45.719 there's a chance they take the prime guarantee up to 1265 01:03:45.760 --> 01:03:50.679 ten million, which is interesting. I personally think they should 1266 01:03:50.679 --> 01:03:52.079 have taken it up to ten million this year or 1267 01:03:52.119 --> 01:03:55.199 the year before, but hey, whatever, that would be wild. 1268 01:03:56.039 --> 01:03:59.079 But then if that does happen, and if you don't 1269 01:03:59.119 --> 01:04:01.639 have a guarantee on the main event, are you just 1270 01:04:01.719 --> 01:04:04.519 kind of putting all the shine on the Prime? Which 1271 01:04:04.559 --> 01:04:07.800 is fine? I mean, this Prime is a freaking incredible term. 1272 01:04:07.880 --> 01:04:09.920 I mean, it's just it's one of the best tournaments 1273 01:04:09.920 --> 01:04:13.119 of the year, like by far, top top two or three. 1274 01:04:14.039 --> 01:04:16.440 We always talk about it. You just need to get 1275 01:04:16.760 --> 01:04:18.960 people in the building. When you get them here for Prime, 1276 01:04:19.000 --> 01:04:22.239 you get them here for the free roll, you know 1277 01:04:22.280 --> 01:04:24.000 there's a chance they'll play the main event. So I 1278 01:04:24.039 --> 01:04:27.320 understand they were hyping more the free roll first than 1279 01:04:27.360 --> 01:04:31.159 the Prime and going from there. I don't even think 1280 01:04:31.199 --> 01:04:34.159 that's the biggest question for next year. What's the biggest 1281 01:04:34.199 --> 01:04:39.360 question for next year? Will the WBT World Championship even 1282 01:04:39.400 --> 01:04:43.719 be at the win? What number three year contract? 1283 01:04:43.880 --> 01:04:45.679 Yeah, but I think it's already locked in. 1284 01:04:45.760 --> 01:04:47.239 Okay, why didn't they announce it? 1285 01:04:47.480 --> 01:04:50.119 I mean, I honestly I thought the same thing. But 1286 01:04:50.559 --> 01:04:52.599 for the people that I talked to, it's fine. 1287 01:04:52.920 --> 01:04:55.239 I'm just saying that's the first that's the big question, 1288 01:04:55.800 --> 01:04:57.519 you know, like will it be at the win? Will 1289 01:04:57.559 --> 01:04:59.320 it go up to a different time, like it could 1290 01:04:59.320 --> 01:05:00.519 be at the win in the summer. 1291 01:05:00.719 --> 01:05:03.960 There's probably twelve people in the world that know that 1292 01:05:04.039 --> 01:05:07.400 they announced a three year partnership. You and I are 1293 01:05:07.400 --> 01:05:10.639 two twelve, Okay, like no one pays attention to Actually, yeah, 1294 01:05:11.599 --> 01:05:12.400 so it's whatever. 1295 01:05:12.480 --> 01:05:15.639 But I and the thousands of listeners we have come. 1296 01:05:15.519 --> 01:05:18.079 On doing the rundown for this podcast. I did think 1297 01:05:18.079 --> 01:05:20.599 about that. Yeah, I was like, did they announce it 1298 01:05:20.639 --> 01:05:22.920 for next year? But you know, I mean, but this 1299 01:05:23.000 --> 01:05:28.599 has been so like it's been so good, good between 1300 01:05:28.599 --> 01:05:28.960 these two. 1301 01:05:29.119 --> 01:05:33.239 But here's the thing, right we talk about we talk 1302 01:05:33.280 --> 01:05:38.559 about paradise stepping on you know, wt's toes like taking 1303 01:05:38.599 --> 01:05:42.920 that time slot. Now, if I'm assuming the three year 1304 01:05:42.960 --> 01:05:45.920 contract was for like an event held in December at 1305 01:05:45.960 --> 01:05:49.199 the Win, let's say they redo it. Let's say they 1306 01:05:49.199 --> 01:05:52.320 resigned the contract, they extend it. Maybe they think, hey, 1307 01:05:52.400 --> 01:05:56.199 why don't we move our event. Gg's doing what they 1308 01:05:56.239 --> 01:05:59.599 want to do. Maybe we want to take January. 1309 01:06:00.199 --> 01:06:01.400 You not, I'll play. 1310 01:06:01.199 --> 01:06:03.400 The problem with that. The problem with that is the 1311 01:06:03.519 --> 01:06:07.960 WPT has now shifted their seasons to yearly season. That's 1312 01:06:08.000 --> 01:06:12.760 the problem here. WSP Paradise, WSP in general doesn't have seasons. Yeah, 1313 01:06:13.000 --> 01:06:16.400 it doesn't matter. They can have their event in January, February, March, April, 1314 01:06:16.400 --> 01:06:19.039 like it does. December does doesn't matter. It does not 1315 01:06:19.119 --> 01:06:21.679 matter for the DOUVASP. For WPT, it matters a bit 1316 01:06:21.719 --> 01:06:23.719 more because they've now shifted to. 1317 01:06:23.960 --> 01:06:25.199 Uh having this. 1318 01:06:25.440 --> 01:06:27.920 So I'm just saying, like, you know, if it's a 1319 01:06:27.960 --> 01:06:30.800 new contract, or you know the contract is getting amended, 1320 01:06:31.239 --> 01:06:32.519 you could see date changes. 1321 01:06:33.519 --> 01:06:35.800 No, I think they're going to stick to the same days. 1322 01:06:35.920 --> 01:06:37.519 I would guess that. I would bet that too. 1323 01:06:37.599 --> 01:06:40.639 I'm just saying now, it's like, until we hear confirmation 1324 01:06:40.719 --> 01:06:43.159 of what's happening for next season, you got to consider 1325 01:06:43.199 --> 01:06:45.280 all the options. Could be at the win different time, 1326 01:06:45.400 --> 01:06:48.800 could be at a different location, you know, we never know. 1327 01:06:49.639 --> 01:06:50.960 I'm not sure where that location BA. 1328 01:06:52.000 --> 01:06:54.000 I'm just saying different locations. 1329 01:06:54.000 --> 01:06:57.360 Stop Texas Champions Club, It's not happening. 1330 01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:02.679 Other event winners from the WPT World Championship, you had 1331 01:07:02.719 --> 01:07:07.199 Sergio Barrios winning the eight hundred dollars one million dollar guaranteed. 1332 01:07:08.199 --> 01:07:11.880 I guess opening event for three hundred and eighteen thousand dollars. 1333 01:07:11.920 --> 01:07:14.280 This event had a one million dollar guarantee. It came 1334 01:07:14.320 --> 01:07:16.119 in at over two million dollars in the prize pool 1335 01:07:16.199 --> 01:07:20.440 three thousand and six entries. Zachary Van Curen won the 1336 01:07:20.599 --> 01:07:24.760 WPT Prime Championship nine thousand, six hundred and seventy entries, 1337 01:07:24.800 --> 01:07:26.519 down a little bit from last year when they had 1338 01:07:26.519 --> 01:07:31.679 over ten thousand. Van Kurin won one point one six 1339 01:07:31.920 --> 01:07:35.760 two million dollars. I believe he's known as Lucid poker 1340 01:07:36.000 --> 01:07:40.239 on social media. He's absolutely jacked him. I mean, if 1341 01:07:40.280 --> 01:07:43.360 you you're trying to I mean yeah, if you're trying 1342 01:07:43.360 --> 01:07:44.960 to be like Zach, I mean you got a long 1343 01:07:45.000 --> 01:07:47.320 way to go, man. This guy would squash you your 1344 01:07:47.360 --> 01:07:51.199 head like a peanut. Bradley Miller wins the three thousand 1345 01:07:51.239 --> 01:07:54.119 dollars PLO four one hundred and seventeen thousand dollars, one 1346 01:07:54.159 --> 01:07:57.599 hundred and seventy five inches there. Joe McKeon, we all 1347 01:07:57.639 --> 01:08:00.480 know that name. Three thousand dollars. Nolan hold him sixx 1348 01:08:00.480 --> 01:08:02.519 two hundred and eleven entries he wanted for one hundred 1349 01:08:02.559 --> 01:08:05.400 and twenty one one thousand dollars. All right, now the 1350 01:08:05.400 --> 01:08:10.039 free roll. Chase Bricker won it all the Club WPT 1351 01:08:10.119 --> 01:08:14.519 goal five million dollar Invitational free roll for one million dollars. 1352 01:08:14.639 --> 01:08:17.000 Great name, by the way, Bricker, it's a great name. 1353 01:08:18.159 --> 01:08:20.720 Now this is the interesting part, and we're gonna let's 1354 01:08:20.720 --> 01:08:24.479 spend a little time on this event. So on four 1355 01:08:24.560 --> 01:08:28.039 hundred and seventy five entries, why is that interesting? Because 1356 01:08:29.119 --> 01:08:33.680 there was give or take two thousand golden passports, So 1357 01:08:34.359 --> 01:08:40.159 more than five hundred people didn't show up. Very interesting. Now, 1358 01:08:41.079 --> 01:08:44.760 you and I have done giveaways before. It's sometimes hard, 1359 01:08:45.520 --> 01:08:48.199 probably to the surprise of many people out there, to 1360 01:08:48.239 --> 01:08:51.239 give stuff away. People turn it down, they don't respond, 1361 01:08:51.279 --> 01:08:54.680 they don't check emails like whatever it may be. It's 1362 01:08:54.760 --> 01:08:58.960 often difficult. So more than five hundred people, by my math, 1363 01:08:59.119 --> 01:09:02.399 did not show well to play what the heck man? 1364 01:09:02.800 --> 01:09:08.079 Well, some of them were in paradise. That that hurts. 1365 01:09:09.079 --> 01:09:10.479 Wait were they really? Were they really? 1366 01:09:10.560 --> 01:09:13.439 Yeah? Because they awarded a bunch of passports in Seminal 1367 01:09:13.800 --> 01:09:17.039 and a lot of the majority of the Seminal players 1368 01:09:17.039 --> 01:09:21.600 were also using Seminal as a pre spot for the Bahamas. 1369 01:09:21.640 --> 01:09:24.520 So David Coleman was one of them. Obviously wasn't in 1370 01:09:24.560 --> 01:09:26.880 town for the free roll eventually came back, so they 1371 01:09:26.920 --> 01:09:31.319 probably last, Yeah, because they were giving them to like 1372 01:09:31.479 --> 01:09:34.079 people that like the top three in certain events. 1373 01:09:34.960 --> 01:09:36.680 At sem he won a free roll seat and was 1374 01:09:36.720 --> 01:09:38.119 stayed in the Bahamas instead. 1375 01:09:38.720 --> 01:09:40.640 Now he went from Seminel to Bahamas. 1376 01:09:40.880 --> 01:09:42.800 They ended up what I'm saying, did he do that 1377 01:09:43.119 --> 01:09:49.840 having a seat into the free roll? Yeah, I mean, okay, okay. 1378 01:09:49.560 --> 01:09:50.119 We look. 1379 01:09:50.159 --> 01:09:52.680 The thing about free rolls is that you can say 1380 01:09:52.680 --> 01:09:54.680 the seat's worth twenty five hundred dollars, but it's not. 1381 01:09:55.000 --> 01:09:58.880 It's not realized equity, just perceived equity. So twenty five 1382 01:09:58.960 --> 01:10:02.000 hundred dollars that David, when he has the same kind 1383 01:10:02.039 --> 01:10:05.800 of potential more equity in the Bahamas with the what 1384 01:10:06.000 --> 01:10:08.119 was going to be but maybe a big overlay in 1385 01:10:08.159 --> 01:10:09.800 the twenty five k, that's. 1386 01:10:09.600 --> 01:10:11.479 How he goes think. I'm just saying, I think like 1387 01:10:11.560 --> 01:10:13.800 that's how they think. Yeah, And then. 1388 01:10:13.720 --> 01:10:16.720 Obviously you lost a lot of seats just people were, 1389 01:10:18.119 --> 01:10:23.119 you know, ineligible to play. So the fact that they 1390 01:10:23.159 --> 01:10:26.680 didn't feel the missing seats on the day by just 1391 01:10:26.680 --> 01:10:28.439 giving him to anyone was kind of a shame. I 1392 01:10:28.439 --> 01:10:30.079 feel like they should have tried to get two thousand 1393 01:10:30.079 --> 01:10:32.840 players in there. I know that's obviously reducing my ev 1394 01:10:32.960 --> 01:10:35.399 a little bit because I was in, but I think 1395 01:10:35.399 --> 01:10:36.760 that would have been the best thing to at least 1396 01:10:36.760 --> 01:10:38.640 attempt to do, is trying to get that to two 1397 01:10:38.680 --> 01:10:39.399 thousand players. 1398 01:10:39.439 --> 01:10:40.640 No, you don't like that. 1399 01:10:41.199 --> 01:10:44.279 So you and I talked about earlier how we thought 1400 01:10:44.279 --> 01:10:46.079 it was kind of silly that, you know, the dovasit 1401 01:10:46.239 --> 01:10:50.159 extended registration, they changed the dealer's choice thing. What I 1402 01:10:50.199 --> 01:10:52.520 thought was silly as it relates to the club WPT 1403 01:10:52.640 --> 01:10:56.640 Gold free role was putting people like Tony Donsk, Vince 1404 01:10:56.720 --> 01:11:00.159 Van Patten, phil Ivy into this free role. I mean, 1405 01:11:00.159 --> 01:11:03.840 that's not if it was. My new working take is 1406 01:11:03.840 --> 01:11:06.520 that the free roll should have been open to anyone 1407 01:11:06.560 --> 01:11:12.720 who has never cashed in a WPT event ever, and 1408 01:11:12.760 --> 01:11:15.800 that can include WPT Prime Alpha eight. Whatever the heck 1409 01:11:15.840 --> 01:11:18.279 you want to do now you can't. I was originally 1410 01:11:18.279 --> 01:11:21.239 gonna say, like, you have never played, but I doubt 1411 01:11:21.279 --> 01:11:23.880 you have all those records on file. You can definitely 1412 01:11:23.880 --> 01:11:27.039 look up cashed for sure. That's what I would have 1413 01:11:27.079 --> 01:11:29.479 done now that I think about it, But hindsight is 1414 01:11:29.520 --> 01:11:31.520 twenty twenty, so It's obviously very easy for me to 1415 01:11:31.560 --> 01:11:35.359 say that being results oriented, and those people, the people 1416 01:11:35.439 --> 01:11:37.560 like you know, Nick Palmer that were out there like 1417 01:11:37.600 --> 01:11:39.800 complaining on social media like this is what we pay 1418 01:11:39.880 --> 01:11:42.680 Rake for, Like no, stupid, this is the most ridiculous 1419 01:11:42.680 --> 01:11:43.880 thing I've ever heard from anyone. 1420 01:11:44.199 --> 01:11:44.479 Yep. 1421 01:11:45.199 --> 01:11:47.479 I mean we a lot of these influences that were playing. 1422 01:11:47.880 --> 01:11:50.600 We understood why they were in because you know, they 1423 01:11:50.600 --> 01:11:53.239 were going to give away five ten seats as a 1424 01:11:53.279 --> 01:11:54.119 trade off, they get one. 1425 01:11:54.159 --> 01:11:54.920 I'm fine with that. 1426 01:11:54.960 --> 01:11:58.800 I'm honestly fine with Ivy Tiny all the WPT talent. 1427 01:11:58.920 --> 01:12:01.479 I don't have a problem with that. I'm the opposite 1428 01:12:01.479 --> 01:12:03.840 to you. I do like your idea of I do 1429 01:12:04.000 --> 01:12:06.239 like your idea that of the cash. 1430 01:12:06.439 --> 01:12:08.680 Now, this hasn't come to play phil Ivey. You know 1431 01:12:08.720 --> 01:12:10.319 what they you know, you know when you come to 1432 01:12:10.319 --> 01:12:13.000 play phil Ivey. When when December seventeenth they had the 1433 01:12:13.039 --> 01:12:15.800 meetup game in the Win Poker room, that's come to 1434 01:12:15.800 --> 01:12:18.239 play with phil Ivey. This has not come to play with. 1435 01:12:18.359 --> 01:12:20.800 This has come to play the biggest poker free role 1436 01:12:20.840 --> 01:12:22.920 ever and try and win a million dollars. That's what 1437 01:12:23.039 --> 01:12:23.399 this is. 1438 01:12:24.600 --> 01:12:27.359 I would have I have more, I have less gripes 1439 01:12:27.399 --> 01:12:29.560 about the players, more graps about the prize pool. 1440 01:12:32.000 --> 01:12:34.880 Listen, you you cashed in the event, sir, so let 1441 01:12:35.079 --> 01:12:38.439 let us know what are your gripes, mister Allan Casseler, 1442 01:12:38.520 --> 01:12:39.520 what are your gripes? 1443 01:12:41.960 --> 01:12:46.239 I I mean, there was so much money in the bounties, 1444 01:12:47.159 --> 01:12:49.520 and I feel like they could have been better utilized 1445 01:12:50.319 --> 01:12:54.319 in the in the payouts for those spots from you know, 1446 01:12:54.439 --> 01:12:59.079 five hundred to to the final ten. Now, I am 1447 01:12:59.119 --> 01:13:01.680 not opposed to what they did. I completely understand everything 1448 01:13:01.680 --> 01:13:04.279 they did for this free roll, the whole mister bounties, 1449 01:13:04.680 --> 01:13:07.079 the million dollar fust the one hundred extra seats. 1450 01:13:07.119 --> 01:13:07.920 I loved it all. 1451 01:13:08.159 --> 01:13:10.520 I'm just saying, if I was to have a gripe, 1452 01:13:10.560 --> 01:13:13.800 it would be about removing some of those big bounties 1453 01:13:14.119 --> 01:13:17.680 and making it more of a normal payout system where 1454 01:13:17.680 --> 01:13:20.720 there's more money getting one from the players of cash. 1455 01:13:21.439 --> 01:13:23.640 That's all. But like, I get what they're. 1456 01:13:23.479 --> 01:13:25.840 Doing, and I you know, I'm not going to go 1457 01:13:25.880 --> 01:13:29.039 on Twitter and voice my concerns about missing missing levels 1458 01:13:29.039 --> 01:13:31.880 and stuff, because I had a ball as fun as 1459 01:13:32.079 --> 01:13:32.640 soon as hell. 1460 01:13:33.079 --> 01:13:35.000 Speaking of those bounties, I guess we should hear on 1461 01:13:35.039 --> 01:13:39.159 the fact that they pulled the biggest troll job I 1462 01:13:39.199 --> 01:13:44.079 have ever seen him. So when so they had I 1463 01:13:44.119 --> 01:13:45.880 believe they had a bunch of bounties reserved for the 1464 01:13:45.920 --> 01:13:46.439 final table. 1465 01:13:46.520 --> 01:13:48.600 Yes, yeah, there was a final table. Now. 1466 01:13:49.119 --> 01:13:51.000 And when you knock someone out, they come up there 1467 01:13:51.039 --> 01:13:53.319 with a case, the gold case. They open it up. 1468 01:13:53.319 --> 01:13:57.479 You take the envelop about you. You draw, right, Jason Christopher, 1469 01:13:57.920 --> 01:14:01.399 who I believe ended up finishing run up, He finished 1470 01:14:01.479 --> 01:14:02.960 run out for two and fifty K. But anyway he 1471 01:14:03.079 --> 01:14:07.600 knocks someone out, he gets a bounty pull. Now, if 1472 01:14:07.600 --> 01:14:11.359 anyone's seen these mystery Bonnie envelopes, you know these days 1473 01:14:11.359 --> 01:14:13.479 in poker, they're in an envelope and they tend to 1474 01:14:13.520 --> 01:14:15.760 like you pull them out where you start seeing zeros 1475 01:14:16.199 --> 01:14:18.039 on the back half. So like if you get like 1476 01:14:18.079 --> 01:14:20.720 three zeros in a comma, you're like, okay, I'm guaranteed 1477 01:14:20.720 --> 01:14:22.560 a thousand or more dollars or whatever, and I have 1478 01:14:22.600 --> 01:14:24.920 a chance to oftentimes what is like, you know, twenty 1479 01:14:24.920 --> 01:14:26.880 five to fifty one hundred thousand dollars, Like I have 1480 01:14:26.920 --> 01:14:30.680 a chance at that. The WPT did zero zero zero 1481 01:14:30.800 --> 01:14:36.439 comma zero zero. Like, so now Christopher's thinking he won 1482 01:14:36.520 --> 01:14:38.720 what was the biggest bounty one hundred thousand, right, Yeah, 1483 01:14:38.760 --> 01:14:41.039 he's thinking he won the biggest one. Nope, the last 1484 01:14:41.119 --> 01:14:45.000 number was a zero. I mean that is whoever thought 1485 01:14:45.000 --> 01:14:47.319 of that as an ef ingenius? Okay, I mean, like, 1486 01:14:47.359 --> 01:14:48.800 this is the ultimate troll job. 1487 01:14:49.359 --> 01:14:52.720 I've already stolen the idea for something else. It might 1488 01:14:52.760 --> 01:14:55.760 not get put into play, but I loved it. I 1489 01:14:55.800 --> 01:14:56.800 absolutely loved it. 1490 01:14:57.319 --> 01:15:00.239 Yeah, I mean I I think a lot out of 1491 01:15:00.279 --> 01:15:01.279 their social. 1492 01:15:01.079 --> 01:15:02.199 Only because it's a free roll. 1493 01:15:02.920 --> 01:15:04.920 Yeah, I mean only because it's a free roll, that's all. 1494 01:15:04.960 --> 01:15:07.439 If it was a real buying tournament, I'm against it. 1495 01:15:07.880 --> 01:15:09.399 But because it's a free roll, I. 1496 01:15:09.319 --> 01:15:13.000 Mean it was more for it. It was pretty wild. 1497 01:15:13.960 --> 01:15:16.479 But anyway, Yeah, Chase Bricker wins this this free role. 1498 01:15:17.000 --> 01:15:18.760 How did you think the like, how did you think 1499 01:15:18.800 --> 01:15:19.399 the play was? 1500 01:15:19.439 --> 01:15:19.520 Like? 1501 01:15:19.520 --> 01:15:20.880 How was it for you? 1502 01:15:20.960 --> 01:15:21.039 Like? 1503 01:15:21.960 --> 01:15:23.800 Are there a lot of people in your like your 1504 01:15:23.840 --> 01:15:25.920 starting table or at your tables in general who like, 1505 01:15:26.239 --> 01:15:28.239 going back to what the WPT said, where they were like, 1506 01:15:28.239 --> 01:15:30.079 you know, the majority of people have never played a 1507 01:15:30.079 --> 01:15:31.680 tournament five or buying or higher. 1508 01:15:32.079 --> 01:15:37.920 Yeah, the very first hand the button anied because he 1509 01:15:37.960 --> 01:15:39.720 had never played live. He picked up his cars to 1510 01:15:39.720 --> 01:15:41.359 look at so it's a bit. There was a lot 1511 01:15:41.359 --> 01:15:43.640 of those. But then I also had fucking Dan Jungleman 1512 01:15:43.720 --> 01:15:46.039 Case on my table playing a flute. 1513 01:15:46.520 --> 01:15:47.399 And when you looked at. 1514 01:15:47.279 --> 01:15:50.159 The tables, like I walked around a little bit, there 1515 01:15:50.239 --> 01:15:54.039 was probably one or two competent or people that I 1516 01:15:54.119 --> 01:15:55.600 recognize on every table. 1517 01:15:56.279 --> 01:15:58.279 Obviously, the play was kind of all over the place. 1518 01:15:58.279 --> 01:15:59.039 It was limping. 1519 01:15:59.079 --> 01:16:03.319 There was some craziness, kind of what you would expect 1520 01:16:03.399 --> 01:16:05.960 with this thing. You know, you would get some good players, 1521 01:16:06.000 --> 01:16:07.920 get a lot of people that were fresh and new. 1522 01:16:08.039 --> 01:16:12.800 But everyone seemed to be having fun and enjoying themselves. 1523 01:16:12.800 --> 01:16:16.479 And you know, got to listen to flute music all day. 1524 01:16:16.520 --> 01:16:16.960 It was great. 1525 01:16:17.279 --> 01:16:18.880 That would drag me absolutely nuts. 1526 01:16:19.199 --> 01:16:22.359 I had my music so loud every Okay, so for 1527 01:16:22.399 --> 01:16:25.079 those that don't know, I had Dan Kate's sitting at 1528 01:16:25.079 --> 01:16:27.600 my table, and he had a not a flute, I 1529 01:16:27.640 --> 01:16:31.079 guess it was a recorder, right, a recorder, and every 1530 01:16:31.119 --> 01:16:34.119 time he would raise a three bit or win a hand, 1531 01:16:34.319 --> 01:16:37.960 he would start playing what he thought was a song. 1532 01:16:38.399 --> 01:16:41.439 Now he just learned how to play. That day, he 1533 01:16:41.520 --> 01:16:42.359 was not very. 1534 01:16:42.159 --> 01:16:45.920 Good, and people were getting You could tell people were 1535 01:16:45.920 --> 01:16:48.640 getting mad, like we're getting really pissed off at him, 1536 01:16:49.159 --> 01:16:52.000 but at the end, like me personally, I thought it 1537 01:16:52.039 --> 01:16:53.399 was funny and it was also. 1538 01:16:53.159 --> 01:16:53.720 A free rose. 1539 01:16:53.760 --> 01:16:56.399 I was like, whatever, it's he's having a bit of fun, 1540 01:16:56.479 --> 01:17:01.600 people trying to enjoy themselves. But yeah, that was how 1541 01:17:01.680 --> 01:17:03.000 my starting table was. 1542 01:17:03.439 --> 01:17:05.960 So, fourteen hundred and fifty seven entries, what place did 1543 01:17:06.000 --> 01:17:06.439 you come in? 1544 01:17:07.039 --> 01:17:09.119 Ninety fifth? I think for like four k? 1545 01:17:09.840 --> 01:17:12.840 Damn, Yeah that's pretty good. You owe me money? 1546 01:17:14.319 --> 01:17:16.319 Yes, I did it, Yeah, exactly, it's on my list. 1547 01:17:16.319 --> 01:17:18.600 I'm my dad. Shit, right, here's what's I just. 1548 01:17:18.520 --> 01:17:20.720 Needed to say that that I had a piece of it, 1549 01:17:21.119 --> 01:17:21.720 which is good. 1550 01:17:21.880 --> 01:17:22.279 I played. 1551 01:17:22.279 --> 01:17:25.640 I got very lucky twice, once before the money, once 1552 01:17:25.720 --> 01:17:27.680 in the money, and then my bus at hand, I 1553 01:17:27.680 --> 01:17:30.399 had top two pair and got and got unlucky. 1554 01:17:30.479 --> 01:17:34.399 So yeah, what are you gonna do? Exactly? Chase Bricker 1555 01:17:34.439 --> 01:17:37.039 won it million dollars. We mentioned that Jason Christopher second 1556 01:17:37.079 --> 01:17:39.800 two urnd fifty K, Daniel Geba third, one hundred and 1557 01:17:39.840 --> 01:17:43.520 twenty five K, Victor avalone seventy five K for fourth place, 1558 01:17:43.560 --> 01:17:48.239 Patrick Askindar fifth place fifty K, Tyler Hancock sixth place 1559 01:17:48.239 --> 01:17:51.800 for forty K. Josh Gwindon, sorry if I put you 1560 01:17:51.560 --> 01:17:53.880 to your last name. Josh seventh place for thirty K, 1561 01:17:54.079 --> 01:17:57.279 Eric Zang eighth place for twenty five k, and Jacob 1562 01:17:57.359 --> 01:18:00.760 Stufflebean that a great name at this final table ninth 1563 01:18:00.760 --> 01:18:04.279 place for twenty thousand dollars. Again, that was the Club 1564 01:18:04.439 --> 01:18:10.800 WPT Gold five million dollars Invitational freeroll TIERSA Sanders winning 1565 01:18:10.840 --> 01:18:14.560 the eleven hundred dollars Ladies Championship for ninety thousand dollars, 1566 01:18:14.640 --> 01:18:16.720 topping a fuel of four hundred and eighty five entries. 1567 01:18:16.800 --> 01:18:21.079 Matthew Savia won the three K nolanman HoldEm PKO for 1568 01:18:21.319 --> 01:18:24.680 ninety two thousand dollars in prize money plus sixty nine thousand, 1569 01:18:24.760 --> 01:18:27.000 five hundred dollars in bounties. This had two hundred and 1570 01:18:27.039 --> 01:18:31.720 ninety six entries. Adam Hendricks three thousand dollars three million 1571 01:18:31.760 --> 01:18:34.520 dollar guaranteed event. He won it for six hundred and 1572 01:18:34.520 --> 01:18:38.199 twenty nine thousand dollars after a deal. Fifteen hundred and 1573 01:18:38.479 --> 01:18:42.079 seventy entries in this one. This hand or sorry, this 1574 01:18:42.600 --> 01:18:44.960 event had a bit of a downtick in numbers. I 1575 01:18:45.000 --> 01:18:46.560 think it was over two thousand last year with a 1576 01:18:46.600 --> 01:18:49.520 million to first, but anyway, still a really good turnout there. 1577 01:18:49.520 --> 01:18:52.840 They obviously beat the guarantee. You so whatever. Mark Ebert 1578 01:18:53.039 --> 01:18:55.359 twenty five thousand dollars Alpha eight he won it for 1579 01:18:55.600 --> 01:18:58.359 six hundred and eighty four thousand dollars after a deal. 1580 01:18:59.359 --> 01:19:03.039 One hundred eleven entries in this one. Ren Lynn, fresh 1581 01:19:03.079 --> 01:19:05.359 off the plane from the Bahamas, wins the three K 1582 01:19:05.600 --> 01:19:07.880 Dolman hold them six max for one hundred and eighty k. 1583 01:19:08.239 --> 01:19:11.159 This guy's just on absolute fire this year. And then 1584 01:19:11.239 --> 01:19:13.840 Jim Callapy I just saw before we press the record 1585 01:19:13.880 --> 01:19:16.239 button that he won the ten K PLO for two 1586 01:19:16.279 --> 01:19:22.760 hundred and ten thousand dollars. All right, here's the big question. 1587 01:19:24.039 --> 01:19:29.560 Who won December? Was it WSP or was it WPT 1588 01:19:30.119 --> 01:19:31.920 WPT Really? 1589 01:19:32.720 --> 01:19:36.439 Yeah, why, I feel if you take a whole look 1590 01:19:36.439 --> 01:19:38.199 at both events, I think there was a bit more 1591 01:19:38.239 --> 01:19:43.039 negativity coming out of WSP. I just think the success 1592 01:19:43.159 --> 01:19:47.000 of the WPT event minus the guarantee, you know, plus 1593 01:19:47.039 --> 01:19:50.359 they did this new five million dollar free row. I 1594 01:19:50.359 --> 01:19:52.359 think they won. I think they won last December two, 1595 01:19:53.159 --> 01:19:54.079 so I think they'll win. 1596 01:19:54.239 --> 01:19:55.920 I definitely think they won last December. 1597 01:19:56.319 --> 01:19:58.119 And you can tell the way you can tell they 1598 01:19:58.159 --> 01:20:03.439 won with they winning is WSP are copying them, right, 1599 01:20:03.720 --> 01:20:06.279 WPT do the biggest, They do the twenty five, then 1600 01:20:06.319 --> 01:20:08.279 they do the forty. They build it as the biggest 1601 01:20:08.319 --> 01:20:11.800 main event. What does WSP come and do they decide, Okay, 1602 01:20:11.840 --> 01:20:13.359 we're going to do the biggest main event and they 1603 01:20:13.359 --> 01:20:15.640 do a fifty million, but it's a twenty five k 1604 01:20:15.720 --> 01:20:19.720 by So what's going to happen next? We're going to 1605 01:20:19.760 --> 01:20:23.000 see a WSP free roll in the summer for six 1606 01:20:23.039 --> 01:20:26.600 million dollars. I hope so, because it seems like the 1607 01:20:26.640 --> 01:20:28.560 only whack and win money is in free roles. But 1608 01:20:29.600 --> 01:20:33.920 so I would say, yeah, I think WPT one, Yeah, 1609 01:20:33.960 --> 01:20:34.479 how about you? 1610 01:20:34.880 --> 01:20:37.279 So I have I have two answers to this question. 1611 01:20:37.880 --> 01:20:40.920 One is a cop out. The cop out is that 1612 01:20:41.720 --> 01:20:45.880 poker won and poker continues to win because I think 1613 01:20:45.920 --> 01:20:50.479 that I think that both events had their own share 1614 01:20:50.520 --> 01:20:57.119 of success and ultimately didn't cannibalize each other to the 1615 01:20:57.159 --> 01:21:02.279 point that the plain community suffered. Which now, I there's 1616 01:21:02.319 --> 01:21:04.359 no doubt in my mind that they cannibalize each other 1617 01:21:04.439 --> 01:21:07.640 to some extent, but I don't think they did it 1618 01:21:07.680 --> 01:21:12.359 to a big detriment that you know, it's like this 1619 01:21:12.399 --> 01:21:14.199 event really hurt that event, and it really hurt the 1620 01:21:14.199 --> 01:21:15.680 players and all this sort of stuff. Right, Like, I 1621 01:21:16.119 --> 01:21:19.520 think ultimately both were successful, which means it's good for poker. 1622 01:21:19.560 --> 01:21:22.239 It's good to have options, competition is good, all that 1623 01:21:22.279 --> 01:21:22.920 sort of stuff. 1624 01:21:23.039 --> 01:21:24.119 Yeah, I agree. 1625 01:21:24.640 --> 01:21:27.600 My second answer is WPT one. I mean, I just 1626 01:21:27.960 --> 01:21:29.840 and what I what I mean by that is I 1627 01:21:29.880 --> 01:21:34.560 just I feel like the sentiment leaving WPT is just 1628 01:21:34.600 --> 01:21:37.439 a more positive one versus the sentiment of what I see, 1629 01:21:38.239 --> 01:21:40.279 you know, hearing from people in the Bahamas, where people 1630 01:21:40.319 --> 01:21:42.479 are like, it's time to get out of the Bahamas, 1631 01:21:42.520 --> 01:21:44.520 Like it's like, you know, that sort of thing, whereas 1632 01:21:44.560 --> 01:21:47.520 like WPT, it's almost like people are bummed that it's 1633 01:21:47.560 --> 01:21:51.039 done in a way, Whereas and this could just be 1634 01:21:51.079 --> 01:21:53.640 a factor of the fact that it's the location, Like 1635 01:21:53.680 --> 01:21:55.800 it's hard to travel to a place and be away 1636 01:21:55.840 --> 01:21:57.960 from home and all that sort of stuff. And and 1637 01:21:58.239 --> 01:22:01.600 even if you are traveling to win Las Vegas, like 1638 01:22:02.319 --> 01:22:04.680 you might, you're likely from the US and you're still 1639 01:22:04.680 --> 01:22:07.079 within your country versus like you're going to the Bahamas, 1640 01:22:07.119 --> 01:22:08.600 which is an island. You got to deal with the 1641 01:22:08.600 --> 01:22:11.079 Bohemian culture, which is, you know, they can serve your 1642 01:22:11.079 --> 01:22:13.520 food really slow, and stuff is really expensive and all 1643 01:22:13.560 --> 01:22:15.520 all that sort of stuff. You're you know, you're really 1644 01:22:15.520 --> 01:22:17.560 cramped in a hotel room, whereas if you're in the States, 1645 01:22:17.560 --> 01:22:19.439 you're a little bit more comfortable to like venture out 1646 01:22:19.479 --> 01:22:20.920 and all this sort of stuff. It could just be 1647 01:22:20.960 --> 01:22:23.199 like a factor of that. But that's kind of why 1648 01:22:23.239 --> 01:22:26.439 I say, you know, WPT one and this is it's 1649 01:22:26.520 --> 01:22:31.399 probably just a factor of how the WPT has always 1650 01:22:31.479 --> 01:22:35.800 positioned its brand, how it's approached players. It's always really 1651 01:22:35.800 --> 01:22:40.880 tried to be player first and loyalty and respect and 1652 01:22:41.119 --> 01:22:43.199 you know, hey, this is what we're going to do 1653 01:22:43.279 --> 01:22:45.479 for you. We are always going to be player, player, 1654 01:22:45.520 --> 01:22:47.279 player and do the best that we can and we 1655 01:22:47.319 --> 01:22:51.079 appreciate you guys. Blah blah blah. You know, and I'm 1656 01:22:51.119 --> 01:22:54.920 just not sure you get that same stuff out of 1657 01:22:54.960 --> 01:22:58.520 the World Series of Poker. You know. That said, the 1658 01:22:58.560 --> 01:23:00.560 World Series of Poker is probably always going to be 1659 01:23:00.560 --> 01:23:05.840 where the value is money wise on a bigger picture scale, 1660 01:23:06.439 --> 01:23:08.840 just because that's the biggest brand. That's what everyone knows. 1661 01:23:09.159 --> 01:23:11.079 Everyone's going to come out like in the summer and 1662 01:23:11.119 --> 01:23:14.159 just play all the events because it's just money, money, money, money, money, right. 1663 01:23:15.239 --> 01:23:19.640 But in December, I think WPT is winning right now. 1664 01:23:20.279 --> 01:23:22.560 You know, I would probably have said that it was 1665 01:23:22.720 --> 01:23:25.920 WCP if the numbers were quite a bit lower for 1666 01:23:26.199 --> 01:23:30.960 the WPT World Championship, But they drew almost twenty four hundred, 1667 01:23:31.199 --> 01:23:34.880 no guarantee. It's kind of like, Wow, we did it. Now, 1668 01:23:35.359 --> 01:23:38.079 I might totally change my tune next year because, like 1669 01:23:38.119 --> 01:23:40.880 I said, it could decline, Like you could still get 1670 01:23:40.880 --> 01:23:44.039 the bump from last year that carries over to this year. 1671 01:23:44.359 --> 01:23:46.920 You have that five million dollar free roll playing into everything. 1672 01:23:47.399 --> 01:23:49.199 You know, if you don't have that carryover, if you 1673 01:23:49.199 --> 01:23:51.079 don't have that free roll buzz like all that sort 1674 01:23:51.119 --> 01:23:53.239 of stuff, do you dip a bit further down. I 1675 01:23:53.319 --> 01:23:55.640 don't know, right So that's just kind of left to 1676 01:23:55.680 --> 01:23:58.680 be seen. But I think I would agree with you 1677 01:23:58.680 --> 01:24:01.399 that I think the WBT is is winning this quote 1678 01:24:01.439 --> 01:24:04.680 unquote wars that's happening beween these two big brands. But 1679 01:24:04.680 --> 01:24:05.840 at the end of the day, like I said, I 1680 01:24:05.920 --> 01:24:11.560 think it's generally a really good time to be a 1681 01:24:11.600 --> 01:24:15.199 poker player. Like you have options, There are a lot 1682 01:24:15.239 --> 01:24:17.920 of options. I think the w s AP stuff that 1683 01:24:17.920 --> 01:24:22.119 happens in Paradise is that's the option for the higher 1684 01:24:22.159 --> 01:24:25.880 buying player, like the Triton guys, the super high Rollers, 1685 01:24:25.920 --> 01:24:28.119 all that sort of stuff. That's where they go. They 1686 01:24:28.159 --> 01:24:32.439 do their thing down there for the more recreational amateur 1687 01:24:32.760 --> 01:24:36.960 shot taker pros that aren't of the super elite level, 1688 01:24:37.039 --> 01:24:40.319 like you have the WPT stuff at the win right. 1689 01:24:40.520 --> 01:24:42.920 So and it's also like, now you know there's more 1690 01:24:42.920 --> 01:24:46.239 stuff happening in Vegas around the WPT. I think you're 1691 01:24:46.279 --> 01:24:50.720 seeing I think you're seeing that much sooner than you 1692 01:24:51.199 --> 01:24:53.760 saw in the summer. Like for in the summer, for 1693 01:24:53.800 --> 01:24:55.760 so long it was like we don't want to step 1694 01:24:55.760 --> 01:24:58.279 on the w SIPs toes, we can't compete with them whatever, 1695 01:24:58.520 --> 01:25:00.800 and then finally all these other venues realize like no, 1696 01:25:00.880 --> 01:25:03.279 we can do our own thing. Now during the summer, 1697 01:25:03.319 --> 01:25:06.119 you have all these venues in Vegas doing their own series, right, 1698 01:25:06.640 --> 01:25:09.520 And I think that because you saw that it really 1699 01:25:09.600 --> 01:25:13.680 wasn't a bad thing and you could have stuff going 1700 01:25:13.760 --> 01:25:15.800 up against the World Series of Poker in the summer. 1701 01:25:16.640 --> 01:25:19.960 People in December have been ready to go, like you 1702 01:25:20.000 --> 01:25:22.560 saw like this Aria Poker Open with the bed MGM 1703 01:25:22.560 --> 01:25:24.479 Poker Championship, like they had a big series, and I 1704 01:25:24.520 --> 01:25:26.840 think that's going to continue, and you have stuff going 1705 01:25:26.880 --> 01:25:29.000 on at the Orleans and you have stuff at Venetian, 1706 01:25:29.079 --> 01:25:31.720 Like you just have stuff going on around town, and 1707 01:25:32.039 --> 01:25:35.399 no one's really scared just because the WBT World Championship 1708 01:25:35.439 --> 01:25:37.600 is the biggest game in town during this month, Like, 1709 01:25:37.640 --> 01:25:40.359 no one's scared about that. So I just think that 1710 01:25:40.399 --> 01:25:45.960 it's all pretty interesting and uh good overall, like really 1711 01:25:45.960 --> 01:25:50.000 good overall for poker. So do you think either of 1712 01:25:50.039 --> 01:25:51.920 these series will make big changes for next year? I 1713 01:25:51.960 --> 01:25:56.399 know you mentioned January, but like, is that gonna actually happen? 1714 01:25:56.439 --> 01:25:57.560 You actually think that would happen. 1715 01:25:57.920 --> 01:26:00.479 I guess it's it's all gonna happen in a past, right. 1716 01:26:00.880 --> 01:26:07.359 I'm assuming WPT will to announce their dates and then 1717 01:26:07.760 --> 01:26:10.560 WSP are going to announce their dates, and they're going 1718 01:26:10.600 --> 01:26:12.319 to basically play this kind of cat and mouse game 1719 01:26:12.359 --> 01:26:14.640 to see what happens. You know, I don't know if 1720 01:26:14.640 --> 01:26:18.279 there'll be much difference. I don't think WPT needs to move. 1721 01:26:19.520 --> 01:26:20.960 I don't think they need to do a guarantee on 1722 01:26:21.000 --> 01:26:24.640 their main event either, So I think the most changes 1723 01:26:24.720 --> 01:26:28.199 may happen from a WSP perspective. And you know, are 1724 01:26:28.199 --> 01:26:29.840 they going to keep a twenty five k main event? 1725 01:26:29.880 --> 01:26:32.680 Are they going to keep the fifty million guarantee. You know, 1726 01:26:33.520 --> 01:26:36.079 are they going to make it more affordable, because if 1727 01:26:36.079 --> 01:26:39.199 we like, as we've kind of touched on, the series 1728 01:26:39.279 --> 01:26:43.880 is very expensive. You know, while the Win series targets 1729 01:26:43.920 --> 01:26:46.880 a very different playerpool, you know, the you and me 1730 01:26:47.000 --> 01:26:51.640 player pool. Is WSP going to make any changes to 1731 01:26:51.680 --> 01:26:54.159 try and a track some of those players, you know, 1732 01:26:54.199 --> 01:26:58.279 bring some of the buyings down, make it more more reachable, 1733 01:26:58.399 --> 01:27:01.680 more attainable for like the midstate guys. I guess that's 1734 01:27:02.479 --> 01:27:04.000 I get the thing that I would be looking out 1735 01:27:04.039 --> 01:27:04.600 for the most. 1736 01:27:05.159 --> 01:27:07.279 Yeah, I think that all that all makes sense. I 1737 01:27:07.359 --> 01:27:09.119 have no idea if there's going to be any big changes, 1738 01:27:09.159 --> 01:27:11.319 I would guess no. I mean the only big change 1739 01:27:11.319 --> 01:27:14.680 that I think, and this is like a change in 1740 01:27:14.720 --> 01:27:16.880 the positive direction, was I heard that they might they're 1741 01:27:17.039 --> 01:27:19.000 likely going to go to ten million dollars for prime 1742 01:27:19.520 --> 01:27:21.439 for the guarantee, which would be wild. And if they 1743 01:27:21.479 --> 01:27:24.159 do that, I would guess they get I don't know 1744 01:27:24.279 --> 01:27:26.279 twelve thousand players in the field who the hell knows, 1745 01:27:26.319 --> 01:27:30.600 but that that tournament in and of itself is worth 1746 01:27:30.600 --> 01:27:33.880 coming to Vegas for the win. Yeah, at that tournament 1747 01:27:34.000 --> 01:27:37.039 is so good, so so so good, Like I would 1748 01:27:37.239 --> 01:27:41.159 I would highly encourage anyone to play that tournament over 1749 01:27:41.279 --> 01:27:44.000 trying to play the ten K and then you know, 1750 01:27:44.079 --> 01:27:46.079 obviously you can win into the ten care or whatever, 1751 01:27:46.159 --> 01:27:49.640 but like plan four or five six bullets for this Prime, 1752 01:27:49.680 --> 01:27:54.840 because it's just so crazy bulls. I mean, it's it's 1753 01:27:55.039 --> 01:27:59.239 it's worth it, man, It's absolutely worth it's I would 1754 01:27:59.279 --> 01:28:01.479 say all of my table were like playingetself. 1755 01:28:01.760 --> 01:28:04.399 That really yeah, I mean it was it was. 1756 01:28:04.920 --> 01:28:07.920 It was crazy, man, it was absolutely crazy. And I 1757 01:28:07.960 --> 01:28:09.399 heard a lot of the same from from a lot 1758 01:28:09.439 --> 01:28:12.399 of different people that it was just really really really 1759 01:28:12.439 --> 01:28:14.800 really really high value, you know, And I think obviously 1760 01:28:14.880 --> 01:28:17.119 the entries I would be curious to see, I know 1761 01:28:17.159 --> 01:28:20.239 you talked about it with the WSP super Duper main Event, 1762 01:28:20.319 --> 01:28:22.920 you know, wanting to see the uniques. I would be 1763 01:28:23.000 --> 01:28:28.279 curious to see the number of unique players that played 1764 01:28:28.319 --> 01:28:32.600 both Prime and the ten KWPT World Championship, Like, what's 1765 01:28:32.720 --> 01:28:36.720 what's that carry over there? You know, how big is 1766 01:28:36.720 --> 01:28:40.640 that number? Because I think that that's that's interesting. 1767 01:28:41.319 --> 01:28:43.359 And then sixty of the main event. 1768 01:28:44.399 --> 01:28:47.199 And then also like I would again, I would like 1769 01:28:47.239 --> 01:28:50.279 to see you know, better starting days for the Prime, 1770 01:28:50.399 --> 01:28:53.359 specifically that the ten K is like, you might not 1771 01:28:53.479 --> 01:28:55.319 need the best starting days just because it's a ten 1772 01:28:55.439 --> 01:28:57.720 K and you know, just people just do whatever for 1773 01:28:57.760 --> 01:29:00.960 that event. Anyway, now it really does all depend on 1774 01:29:01.000 --> 01:29:05.239 this Amazon conference that happens every single year, Yeah, which 1775 01:29:05.279 --> 01:29:07.760 I think is on the books for December one through 1776 01:29:07.800 --> 01:29:12.199 fifth next year. So knowing that, it would then be 1777 01:29:12.319 --> 01:29:15.880 hard to cram in Prime and the World Championship with 1778 01:29:16.520 --> 01:29:20.319 starting days that are like, you know, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, 1779 01:29:20.359 --> 01:29:23.239 et cetera, just because obviously the need run into Christmas. 1780 01:29:23.239 --> 01:29:27.439 So it's just tricky. But I would say the event 1781 01:29:27.479 --> 01:29:29.399 that is the most important to get the starting days 1782 01:29:29.479 --> 01:29:31.960 right is the Prime. That's what That's what I'm getting 1783 01:29:32.000 --> 01:29:35.960 at here. Okay, but anyway, that'll wrap up our conversation 1784 01:29:36.239 --> 01:29:41.760 there on DISIP Paradise and the WPT World Championship Before 1785 01:29:41.760 --> 01:29:42.960 we get out of here, do you want to hit 1786 01:29:42.960 --> 01:29:46.359 on EPT Prague. I know it feels like kind of 1787 01:29:46.359 --> 01:29:50.479 an afterthought, but you know, EPT Prague is a very 1788 01:29:50.520 --> 01:29:54.560 storied series. It is incredibly big, as evidenced by the 1789 01:29:54.600 --> 01:29:57.960 fact that they had a record setting main event again 1790 01:29:58.359 --> 01:30:00.920 and they I mean they crushed their number. Yeah, So 1791 01:30:02.039 --> 01:30:04.439 the EPT PROG main event is a I think it's 1792 01:30:04.479 --> 01:30:08.199 fifty three hundred euro buy in. They had fourteen hundred 1793 01:30:08.239 --> 01:30:11.359 and fifty eight entries, the record. That's a record center. 1794 01:30:12.039 --> 01:30:14.920 The previous record was last year when they had twelve 1795 01:30:15.000 --> 01:30:18.920 eighty five, so almost two hundred entries more. With everything 1796 01:30:18.960 --> 01:30:21.479 that's going on in poker, with half the people going 1797 01:30:21.560 --> 01:30:23.880 to you know, WSP Paradise the other half going to 1798 01:30:24.239 --> 01:30:28.359 the WPT World Championship, they still crushed their previous record. 1799 01:30:29.399 --> 01:30:33.479 This EPT Progue event is just it's it's incredible to me. 1800 01:30:34.079 --> 01:30:38.199 Portugal's Pedro Marquez won it all. Took home nine hundred 1801 01:30:38.199 --> 01:30:41.079 and sixty three thousand euros, which is just over a 1802 01:30:41.119 --> 01:30:44.560 million dollars. He did make a deal heads up with 1803 01:30:44.880 --> 01:30:48.279 Paul Runkin out of Romania. They both took home nine 1804 01:30:48.359 --> 01:30:50.560 hundred thousand euros and then they played for the extra 1805 01:30:50.640 --> 01:30:54.520 sixty three thousand, four hundred and fifty euros. Marquez became 1806 01:30:54.680 --> 01:30:59.800 Portugal's third EPT championship, the first the first EPT champion 1807 01:31:00.079 --> 01:31:03.840 from Portugal in fifteen years, which is wild. He's thirty 1808 01:31:03.880 --> 01:31:06.439 one years old. He is second on Portugal's all time 1809 01:31:06.479 --> 01:31:07.439 money this who's number one? 1810 01:31:08.399 --> 01:31:09.239 Hey, that's right. 1811 01:31:09.880 --> 01:31:15.279 Tim is like scratching his head, squinting, crunching his scrunching 1812 01:31:15.319 --> 01:31:16.359 his face. He has no idea. 1813 01:31:16.399 --> 01:31:16.800 Look at this. 1814 01:31:16.800 --> 01:31:19.319 This guy's supposed to be the statman over here. 1815 01:31:19.560 --> 01:31:22.680 Give me a hint, Give me a hint. Ummm, because 1816 01:31:22.680 --> 01:31:24.000 it's not it's wow. 1817 01:31:25.119 --> 01:31:27.520 M I can't even give you hints. I don't even 1818 01:31:27.560 --> 01:31:30.000 know how to give you a hints. He's a I'll 1819 01:31:30.000 --> 01:31:31.840 say he's. I don't know if he currently is, but 1820 01:31:31.880 --> 01:31:34.000 he was definitely once was a winimax pro. 1821 01:31:36.199 --> 01:31:39.880 Oh Yavia correct, Who's Who's. 1822 01:31:39.640 --> 01:31:41.359 Way up on top with like twelve million? And then 1823 01:31:41.800 --> 01:31:45.600 Marquez has like five point seven million. Marquez told Joe 1824 01:31:45.640 --> 01:31:50.000 Stapleton in his post win interview, he said, this is 1825 01:31:50.119 --> 01:31:52.479 huge for me. I've been playing poker for ten years 1826 01:31:52.760 --> 01:31:56.199 and it's an amazing feeling. I hope one day everybody 1827 01:31:56.239 --> 01:31:59.359 in this room can have this feeling because it's great. 1828 01:31:59.760 --> 01:32:02.239 How would probably think it was great too? Winning just 1829 01:32:02.359 --> 01:32:08.439 over a million dollars Surprisingly not Marquez's biggest score ever, 1830 01:32:08.520 --> 01:32:10.399 which is you know, wild to think, but he did 1831 01:32:10.399 --> 01:32:15.479 finish fifth in the twenty twenty three PSPC the Poker 1832 01:32:15.479 --> 01:32:19.079 Stars PSPC that twenty five k by an event he 1833 01:32:19.119 --> 01:32:22.520 got fifth there for one point two five million dollars. 1834 01:32:22.560 --> 01:32:26.199 He also took fourth place in EPT Barcelona in twenty 1835 01:32:26.279 --> 01:32:29.479 eighteen for eight hundred and thirteen thousand dollars. He's got 1836 01:32:29.520 --> 01:32:32.159 a win in a ten thousand dollars high roller event 1837 01:32:32.199 --> 01:32:34.800 at EPT Barcelona in twenty nineteen for three hundred and 1838 01:32:34.840 --> 01:32:36.920 sixty six k He's got, you know, a bunch of 1839 01:32:36.960 --> 01:32:41.960 big scores? Does Pedro Marquez so an absolute crusher in 1840 01:32:42.039 --> 01:32:45.199 the ten years that he's been playing poker. He entered 1841 01:32:45.239 --> 01:32:48.119 heads up play against Runkin with a five to one 1842 01:32:48.319 --> 01:32:51.359 chip deficit, but he was able to storm back. As 1843 01:32:51.399 --> 01:32:54.279 I mentioned, they ended up chopping it evenly nine hundred 1844 01:32:54.279 --> 01:32:56.279 thousand euros each, and then they played for that extra 1845 01:32:56.439 --> 01:33:01.000 sixty three thousand, four and fifty euros, which Marquez. You had, 1846 01:33:01.479 --> 01:33:04.399 Jay June Park out of South Korea taking third place 1847 01:33:04.560 --> 01:33:08.600 for five hundred and twelve thousand euros. Barack Oz fourth 1848 01:33:08.640 --> 01:33:11.880 place for three hundred and ninety three thousand euros, Anton Bergstrom, 1849 01:33:11.920 --> 01:33:15.199 a former EPT winner out of Sweden, three hundred and 1850 01:33:15.199 --> 01:33:22.119 three thousand euros. Sir hi Alansau, I probably completely butchered 1851 01:33:22.119 --> 01:33:24.319 that name worse than I've ever butchered a name, and 1852 01:33:24.319 --> 01:33:27.039 I'm probably gonna butcher all three of these next names horribly, 1853 01:33:27.119 --> 01:33:31.239 so I apologize. But sixth place for him two hundred 1854 01:33:31.239 --> 01:33:34.600 thirty three thousand euros Jeno Esquez out of the Netherlands 1855 01:33:34.600 --> 01:33:36.800 one hundred and seventy nine thousand dollars. Tim like nods 1856 01:33:36.800 --> 01:33:38.680 his head like if he's like, no, sound pretty good. 1857 01:33:41.039 --> 01:33:44.159 And then Siegfried Capela out of Austria for one hundred 1858 01:33:44.159 --> 01:33:47.880 and thirty eight thousand euros. So that is the record 1859 01:33:48.079 --> 01:33:51.199 setting EPT problem. It seems like every single year this 1860 01:33:51.279 --> 01:33:54.199 event just sets records and it kind of goes under 1861 01:33:54.239 --> 01:33:57.800 the radar with the fact that you have like all 1862 01:33:57.840 --> 01:34:00.800 eyes on the WPT, all eyes on the WSOP, but 1863 01:34:00.840 --> 01:34:04.600 EPT progue is still over there doing its thing, absolutely 1864 01:34:04.640 --> 01:34:07.239 cooking with what it's doing there. 1865 01:34:07.520 --> 01:34:11.319 I know it's not possible, but it would be awesome 1866 01:34:11.359 --> 01:34:14.920 to have the last two years data on the main 1867 01:34:14.960 --> 01:34:20.640 events from EPT Prague, WSP Paradise, WPT main event and 1868 01:34:20.720 --> 01:34:24.640 we could track like the patent of players, because I 1869 01:34:24.640 --> 01:34:27.920 would bet a lot of EPT Progue people go Prague 1870 01:34:28.319 --> 01:34:31.800 and then WSP. I'm not a lot, but I'm saying 1871 01:34:31.840 --> 01:34:33.439 like I would like to see kind of what the 1872 01:34:33.520 --> 01:34:37.119 overlap is for all three of these, and how the 1873 01:34:37.159 --> 01:34:38.479 patent of travel. 1874 01:34:38.359 --> 01:34:40.640 Is for like these players. Yeah, I mean we never 1875 01:34:40.680 --> 01:34:41.319 get that data. 1876 01:34:41.560 --> 01:34:43.960 Well, just just looking at the numbers, you know, seeing 1877 01:34:44.000 --> 01:34:47.279 EPT Prague getting fourteen fifty eight in this main event. 1878 01:34:47.800 --> 01:34:49.359 You know, I'm going to hit on who won the 1879 01:34:49.439 --> 01:34:52.039 Eureka main event, which is an eleven hundred euro of 1880 01:34:52.079 --> 01:34:53.960 buying as part of the series, that had four thy 1881 01:34:54.079 --> 01:34:57.279 seven and thirty two entries there. You know, those those 1882 01:34:57.319 --> 01:34:59.640 types of players I think are just not traveling or 1883 01:34:59.640 --> 01:35:03.279 they're tveling very short distances within Europe to play like 1884 01:35:03.319 --> 01:35:05.640 those two events, and that's why those two draw where 1885 01:35:05.640 --> 01:35:08.239 I think Prague might have got hurt the most is 1886 01:35:08.239 --> 01:35:10.880 in the high roller area. Yeah, you see like this 1887 01:35:10.960 --> 01:35:13.159 twenty five thousand euro super high roll or that got 1888 01:35:13.199 --> 01:35:17.039 thirty five entries. You see this fifty thousand euro super 1889 01:35:17.119 --> 01:35:19.000 high roll or that got twenty five entries. You know, 1890 01:35:19.119 --> 01:35:22.399 maybe those are like fifty or sixty if you aren't 1891 01:35:22.479 --> 01:35:27.039 bouncing to go to WSP Paradise, right, or maybe they 1892 01:35:27.079 --> 01:35:31.319 come over for WPT at World Championship at the win. 1893 01:35:32.159 --> 01:35:35.920 But that said, I think for the players that played 1894 01:35:35.960 --> 01:35:38.600 those there's probably a decent amount of value. I would think, 1895 01:35:38.640 --> 01:35:40.840 you know, like a lot of the big crushers are 1896 01:35:40.840 --> 01:35:43.319 all just going to the Bahamas or they possibly go 1897 01:35:43.359 --> 01:35:47.960 into Las Vegas, so maybe they perceive some extra value there. Yes, 1898 01:35:48.000 --> 01:35:51.159 it's smaller feel, but maybe they're easier to win. I 1899 01:35:51.199 --> 01:35:54.760 don't know. So in this Eureka main event again eleven 1900 01:35:54.800 --> 01:35:58.039 hundred euro buying four thousand, seven hundred and thirty two entries. 1901 01:35:58.079 --> 01:36:03.359 Good Lord Martin Sveetanov won it for five hundred and 1902 01:36:03.359 --> 01:36:05.640 seventeen thousand euros, which is five hundred and forty four 1903 01:36:05.640 --> 01:36:10.760 thousand dollars. Espen George Dad former w SOP main event winner, 1904 01:36:10.840 --> 01:36:13.600 won the twenty five thousand euro super high Roller warm 1905 01:36:13.680 --> 01:36:15.880 up for two hundred and seventy seven k or two 1906 01:36:15.960 --> 01:36:19.439 hundred ninety three thousand dollars. Patrick Jarles won the ten 1907 01:36:19.479 --> 01:36:23.760 thousand euro high Roller, topped the field of two hundred 1908 01:36:23.760 --> 01:36:26.800 and eighty nine entries five hundred and seventy three thousand 1909 01:36:26.840 --> 01:36:30.239 euros there six hundred and two k in dollars, and 1910 01:36:30.279 --> 01:36:33.520 then Thomas Santurne won the fifty thousand euro super high 1911 01:36:33.600 --> 01:36:36.800 Roller for three hundred and eighty five thousand euros or 1912 01:36:36.840 --> 01:36:41.279 four hundred, seven thousand dollars twenty five entries there. So 1913 01:36:41.520 --> 01:36:43.119 again that's kind of where I think they might have 1914 01:36:43.239 --> 01:36:45.399 lost you know, I don't know, let's say a dozen 1915 01:36:45.439 --> 01:36:48.359 to two dozand entries in those high roller events. But 1916 01:36:48.760 --> 01:36:50.880 you know, when you're pumping out over fourteen hundred and 1917 01:36:50.880 --> 01:36:53.079 the main event and crushing your record from the year before, 1918 01:36:53.159 --> 01:36:55.680 when you're pumping out, you know, almost five thousand entries 1919 01:36:55.680 --> 01:36:58.439 in this eleven hundred euro event, Like, I mean, you're 1920 01:36:58.520 --> 01:37:01.960 you're you're doing good things. I one of the things 1921 01:37:02.000 --> 01:37:04.920 I draw kind of from this whole, from all three 1922 01:37:05.000 --> 01:37:11.199 of these events, there's not really a direct comparison in paradise. 1923 01:37:11.279 --> 01:37:15.640 I guess you could look at this mini main event, 1924 01:37:15.880 --> 01:37:17.840 the two seven hundred and fifty dollars buy in that 1925 01:37:17.920 --> 01:37:22.279 had two thousand and thirty one entries, But like the 1926 01:37:22.319 --> 01:37:25.319 eleven hundred dollars, price plainting in poker is the sweet 1927 01:37:25.359 --> 01:37:28.760 spot of poker right now. Like, I just think that 1928 01:37:28.760 --> 01:37:33.920 that's the best price point possible. Like it's just everyone 1929 01:37:33.960 --> 01:37:37.720 that does in that ballpark, you know, it does extremely well. 1930 01:37:37.800 --> 01:37:40.760 I think you see it probably the most from WPT 1931 01:37:40.840 --> 01:37:43.279 Prime what they do in all of their events, all 1932 01:37:43.279 --> 01:37:45.840 around the world, of course, highlighted the most by the 1933 01:37:45.920 --> 01:37:49.800 WPT Prime Championship that gets almost ten thousand runners this 1934 01:37:49.880 --> 01:37:52.760 month out in December. But you also have this Eureka 1935 01:37:52.840 --> 01:37:55.479 Main event has four seven hundred and thirty two entries 1936 01:37:55.520 --> 01:37:58.000 over in Prague. All the Eureka main events seem to 1937 01:37:58.079 --> 01:38:00.199 just blow doors. You have the one in Barcelona that 1938 01:38:00.319 --> 01:38:02.600 was great, all that sort of stuff. Every time there's like, 1939 01:38:02.960 --> 01:38:06.279 you know, an eleven hundred dollars or whatever event at 1940 01:38:06.720 --> 01:38:10.680 a WSB circuit stop or at an MSPT or at 1941 01:38:10.720 --> 01:38:12.680 the Venetian or whatever it may be, it just they 1942 01:38:12.680 --> 01:38:15.399 always seem to crush like this is the price point 1943 01:38:15.399 --> 01:38:20.319 that is just like it's it's big enough that you know, 1944 01:38:20.800 --> 01:38:25.279 it allows like bigger players to step down in stakes 1945 01:38:25.479 --> 01:38:28.800 and want to go after it. But it's also you know, 1946 01:38:29.079 --> 01:38:31.960 not too far out of reach for like everyone to 1947 01:38:32.000 --> 01:38:34.319 take a shot. I mean, I know, a thousand dollars 1948 01:38:34.600 --> 01:38:36.800 is a lot of like actual dollars, I get it, 1949 01:38:36.840 --> 01:38:39.319 But like in poker sense, it's not that bad. Like 1950 01:38:39.359 --> 01:38:41.520 you can spring a thousand bucks, you know, you can. 1951 01:38:42.039 --> 01:38:43.600 You can sell a little bit of action and maybe 1952 01:38:43.640 --> 01:38:45.520 you're only spending five six hundred of your own money 1953 01:38:45.600 --> 01:38:47.840 or whatever it may be. So I think that that's 1954 01:38:47.960 --> 01:38:50.600 like just the best price point in poker. If I 1955 01:38:50.720 --> 01:38:53.720 was starting in a poker series tomorrow, I would target 1956 01:38:53.760 --> 01:38:56.680 this price point, or I would target the five thousand 1957 01:38:56.680 --> 01:38:58.199 dollars price point, you know, if I wanted to go 1958 01:38:58.199 --> 01:39:00.439 a little bit bigger and tap into that I've talked 1959 01:39:00.479 --> 01:39:03.920 about before. But this one just just always seems like 1960 01:39:03.960 --> 01:39:06.520 it does so so so well. You know, once you 1961 01:39:06.520 --> 01:39:10.199 start getting to like five hundred or six hundred dollars, 1962 01:39:10.640 --> 01:39:13.960 you know, it's it's not terribly different than an eleven 1963 01:39:14.079 --> 01:39:17.760 hundred dollars, but it's just it's almost like too small, 1964 01:39:17.960 --> 01:39:21.039 Like you just don't people don't step down, like we'll 1965 01:39:21.039 --> 01:39:23.720 step dound to play a one K because it's just fine. 1966 01:39:24.199 --> 01:39:26.760 And I think, like, you know, you see the what 1967 01:39:26.800 --> 01:39:28.199 are they call it in the summer now, the million 1968 01:39:28.199 --> 01:39:30.359 dollar bounty? What the heck is that tournament called these? 1969 01:39:30.920 --> 01:39:31.119 Yeah? 1970 01:39:31.359 --> 01:39:33.640 Yeah, I mean that one's just a insane like but 1971 01:39:33.760 --> 01:39:36.560 it's like it's just this is the price point that 1972 01:39:36.640 --> 01:39:39.039 just does so well, and you see it across all tours, 1973 01:39:39.159 --> 01:39:42.560 you really do, so so yeah, I know I know 1974 01:39:42.600 --> 01:39:45.039 what the WPT this December, they had all these like 1975 01:39:45.039 --> 01:39:48.319 eleven hundred dollars turbo events happening, and they were just 1976 01:39:48.359 --> 01:39:50.920 like you know, everyone was like fifty k, sixty k 1977 01:39:51.000 --> 01:39:54.960 for first place, just like so great. So yeah, this 1978 01:39:55.039 --> 01:39:57.319 is a price point that is just really the the 1979 01:39:57.359 --> 01:40:00.319 sweet spot for all of poker. And you thought from 1980 01:40:00.359 --> 01:40:04.439 you on Prague, have you ever been, No, never been 1981 01:40:05.680 --> 01:40:07.880 on your bucket list? It's worth it. 1982 01:40:07.920 --> 01:40:10.399 I guess the biggest question is are you're going to 1983 01:40:10.439 --> 01:40:11.520 break another record next to you? 1984 01:40:12.079 --> 01:40:15.479 Yes, they break records every freaking year in this stupid tournament. 1985 01:40:15.520 --> 01:40:18.239 I mean it's not stupid. I'm just using that for effective, 1986 01:40:18.279 --> 01:40:21.640 but it's like every year they crush every single year. 1987 01:40:21.920 --> 01:40:26.239 Our good friend Yan Correz puts he's the media coordinator 1988 01:40:26.279 --> 01:40:29.319 for Poker Stars and the EPT, so he has the 1989 01:40:29.359 --> 01:40:32.760 EPT prog main event history fourteen fifty eight this year. 1990 01:40:32.840 --> 01:40:34.960 Last year was twelve eighty five, The year before that 1991 01:40:35.000 --> 01:40:38.000 was twelve sixty seven, The year before that was eleven ninety, 1992 01:40:38.399 --> 01:40:41.319 then eleven fifty four, then eleven seventy four. You know, 1993 01:40:41.439 --> 01:40:43.640 I mean, yeah, it's just basically up every single year. 1994 01:40:44.319 --> 01:40:48.960 The only like real outlier is going back to twenty 1995 01:40:49.079 --> 01:40:52.279 thirteen is twenty seventeen, they had eight hundred and fifty 1996 01:40:52.279 --> 01:40:54.920 five entries. I have no idea what happened that year, 1997 01:40:55.520 --> 01:40:57.520 but that was the one that dipped. Every other one 1998 01:40:57.560 --> 01:41:01.520 is above one thousand since two and thirteen, you know, 1999 01:41:01.560 --> 01:41:04.479 and it's all just it's just crushing every single year. 2000 01:41:04.600 --> 01:41:09.520 So yeah, wild, absolutely wild. I mean Prague is Progue 2001 01:41:09.560 --> 01:41:12.000 is worth it. I mean, obviously they're backed by stars, 2002 01:41:12.039 --> 01:41:14.119 so they can you know, qualify a lot of people online. 2003 01:41:14.479 --> 01:41:16.680 But it's also like just become one of those stops 2004 01:41:17.439 --> 01:41:20.520 that you really, you know, I can't miss, don't want 2005 01:41:20.520 --> 01:41:24.000 to miss. If you're in that region, you know, in 2006 01:41:24.279 --> 01:41:25.920 Europe and you want to travel for that sort of thing, 2007 01:41:25.920 --> 01:41:27.640 you don't want to take a little bit of a 2008 01:41:27.680 --> 01:41:30.560 longer flight down to the Bahamas or or whatnot. Maybe 2009 01:41:30.560 --> 01:41:33.760 it's uh, maybe it's more affordable to travel to Prague too. 2010 01:41:33.840 --> 01:41:36.199 I'm guessing it's not as expensive as going to the Bahamas, 2011 01:41:36.239 --> 01:41:37.640 probably not as expensive as coming. 2012 01:41:37.479 --> 01:41:40.760 To the sea, staying at the Wyn, that sort of stuff. 2013 01:41:40.800 --> 01:41:45.399 So really really really good series there from Prague, always 2014 01:41:45.439 --> 01:41:47.079 good stuff coming out of them. And when you when 2015 01:41:47.119 --> 01:41:51.199 you couple it with the the holiday time in Prague, 2016 01:41:51.279 --> 01:41:55.119 the Christmas markets it's it is awesome. I've been there 2017 01:41:55.159 --> 01:41:58.319 several times. It really is unbeatable. So if that's your 2018 01:41:58.319 --> 01:42:01.600 sort of thing, I would highly encourage you to attend. So, 2019 01:42:01.720 --> 01:42:04.520 as I said at the top of the show, Tim 2020 01:42:04.520 --> 01:42:08.359 and I will be back soon to be heavy as 2021 01:42:08.399 --> 01:42:10.840 it relates to the Poker Go Tour, because we are 2022 01:42:10.880 --> 01:42:13.960 going into our big finale to the series. We have 2023 01:42:14.000 --> 01:42:17.279 the PGT Last Chance Series, and then that's going to 2024 01:42:17.359 --> 01:42:22.960 go right into the PGT Championship, the PGT Million Dollar Championship, 2025 01:42:23.000 --> 01:42:25.399 which is going to be a lot of fun. That's 2026 01:42:25.439 --> 01:42:28.880 all going on in January. It starts January second. There's 2027 01:42:28.920 --> 01:42:30.560 going to be a lot of live streaming for us 2028 01:42:30.560 --> 01:42:32.920 in January. We have the PGT Last Chance, we have 2029 01:42:32.960 --> 01:42:35.239 the PGT Championship, and then right after that we have 2030 01:42:35.279 --> 01:42:37.159 the PGT Kickoff to start the new season. 2031 01:42:37.239 --> 01:42:38.560 So a lot of. 2032 01:42:38.560 --> 01:42:44.760 PGTPGTPGT coming your way in January. Until then, please enjoy 2033 01:42:45.039 --> 01:42:48.560 your holidays, enjoy Christmas, all of that good stuff. Hopefully 2034 01:42:48.640 --> 01:42:50.800 you guys, Hopefully you just open your presence and it's 2035 01:42:50.800 --> 01:42:51.880 just a boatload of money so. 2036 01:42:51.840 --> 01:42:52.880 You can be good. 2037 01:42:53.199 --> 01:42:55.600 That's all. That's all I care about. Everyone's like, what 2038 01:42:55.600 --> 01:42:57.039 do you want. I'm like, I just want money because 2039 01:42:57.079 --> 01:42:58.840 I want to then go play poker, like that's all 2040 01:42:58.840 --> 01:43:00.159 I care about. I don't care, you know, maybe you 2041 01:43:00.159 --> 01:43:01.279 buying me a sweater or something. I don't know. 2042 01:43:01.319 --> 01:43:02.560 I've already opened my presents. 2043 01:43:02.800 --> 01:43:03.760 Wow, look at you. 2044 01:43:04.159 --> 01:43:06.560 I did Black Friday shopping. I wanted like gym stuff, 2045 01:43:06.600 --> 01:43:09.159 and I wanted the stuff in the gym so I 2046 01:43:09.159 --> 01:43:12.720 could use it. So the wife basically wrapped the empty boxes. 2047 01:43:13.640 --> 01:43:15.720 So I'm still gonna open the present, but I'm already 2048 01:43:15.760 --> 01:43:18.279 using it, all right, cool, all. 2049 01:43:18.279 --> 01:43:19.800 Right, So that's gonna do it for us. My name 2050 01:43:19.840 --> 01:43:22.439 is Donny Peters. His name is Tim Duckworth, and we 2051 01:43:22.439 --> 01:43:24.079 will talk to you guys next time. 2052 01:43:24.319 --> 01:43:24.680 So you are