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Speaker 1: Hello everyone, Welcome back to a new episode of the

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Poker Go Podcast. My name is Donnie Peters. His name

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is Tim Duckworth. It is Sunday evening, December twenty seconds,

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and we had a pretty big show today. Two big series,

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well three big series in December wrapped up, or at

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least two of the three wrapped up. One I think

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is still in the very very taal end of things,

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and those are of course WISP Paradise, WPT World Championship,

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and EPT Prague. Tim and I are going to hit

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on those three series. Then in a few days we're

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gonna have another episode for you guys where we hit

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on some of the latest PGT stuff as we lead

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into the PGT Last Ants Series and PGT Championship. Busy

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couple days here, I guess, in the final days of

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twenty twenty four. But how are you, sir? How you doing?

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I feel like it's been a while since we've been

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on a podcast together.

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Speaker 2: It has been a very long time, but good. I'm

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looking forward to getting through Christmas. I mean, you know

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how it is with kids, just getting through getting through Christmas,

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you know, because I feel like, once you.

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Speaker 1: Own I'm literally by the way surrounded by presence, Like

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I can't like move my chair in my office. There's

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presence everywhere. Some reason, my wife decided to wrap them

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and just like leave them around me.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I just feel like once the presents of open

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Christmas lunch has had, you can start ripping down decorations

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and like get ready for the new year. That's the

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bit I like, to be honest, ready for the new year.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not in charge of any of the decorations,

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So do.

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Speaker 3: You put up any anything else?

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Speaker 1: No? Not really, I mean whatever my wife asked me

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to help with, yes, but I tend to just leave

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her in charge of the decorations for all holidays. That's

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her jam. She can do whatever she wants and whatnot. Obviously,

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if if I need to, you know, do some some

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stuff that she can't do or that she doesn't want

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to do or whatever, I'm happy to help out. But

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other than that, it's it's her jam. Like this year,

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I mean, we don't. We never really put lights outside,

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like a lot of lights, just because it's a it's

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a hassle to put them in the house and you

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know whatever, So we never did it. And then I

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came home one day and there's just lights all over

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the place. But she had like those ones that she

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got them from her parents and they're the ones that

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you just put over bushes in the front of ardor what.

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So nothing's like, you know, nailed their stable to the

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house or anything like that. But I was surprised when

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I turned the corner and we have a house red

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on the corner, and I was like, what the hell,

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what are all these lights? What the hell is going on?

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But but yeah, so I guess that's our new thing

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for this year. But it is that time of year.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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the order of WSP Paradise first, WPT WO Championship second,

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and then EPT Prog third. Not necessarily any really rhyme

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or reason to that order. I think I just based

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it off of the fact that first place prize won

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in each main event was the biggest for Paradise, second

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biggest for World Championship, third biggest for Prague. So that's

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the order I went with. Don't read into it much

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more than that. It's just how we're going to be

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talking about things. SOUBSB Paradise, of course, the uh I

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Guess Monstrous Series out of the Bahamas Atlantis down in

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the Bahamas. The headlining event, of course, was the twenty

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five thousand dollars buying Super Main Event. I always want

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to say super duper main event. They should just really

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put the duper in there. If they're going to put

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the super in there, why not. This one had a

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fifty million dollars guarantee. That missed. That missed. Did you

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say it would miss did I? I can't remember what

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we can't remember what we predicted. It got close, though.

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Total of nineteen hundred and seventy eight entries, thirteen hundred

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and seventy eight of those entries came from the live

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portion of the series, six hundred came from the online

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portion of the series, so nineteen hundred and seventy eight entries.

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The overlay was five hundred and fifty thousand dollars. It

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looked like, or at least there was a lot of

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talk out there on social media that the overlay was

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going to be much worse than it ended up being.

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of overlay. It obviously did not amount to that in

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the end. I will say that I think there's a

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fair amount of skepticism out there, just the fact that

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the online qualifiers or the online entries. I thought I

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saw it was like five twenty or something, then all

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of a sudden it was six hundred. So I'm just

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kind of like, I have no idea what it is.

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But nevertheless, they came close five hundred and fifty k

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of overlay, which is good for anyone that played in

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the field. Winning it All. China's Yanan Zoo wins it

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All for six million dollars. Hello, that is a hefty

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chunk of change. He defeated Brazil's Marcelo Aziz Junior in

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heads up play. Aziz took home four point six million

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dollars from a free roll. I guess he got in

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from a free roll on Gigi Poker. Then went on

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to finish in second place for four point six million dollars,

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which is absolutely insane. Mastapha Kanet third place for three

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point six million, Live Beree, she was back on the

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felt don't see her much these days in the poker sphere,

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but she was back and she finished in fourth place

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for two point eight million. Christopher Win two point one

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million for his fifth place finish. Michael Adamo, your boy, Sir,

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Kangaroo Crew, he has he has returned. I mean, we

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haven't seen that guy in forever, I feel like, but

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he was back and he was doing his thing. He

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finished in sixth place for one point sixty five million.

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Justin Bonomo. We're going to get into a little controversy

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that surrounded justin Monomo. He finished in seventh place for

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one point three million. Badim Lapuka Lapaca, I'm probably butchering

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that name.

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Speaker 3: Sorry.

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Speaker 1: Vidin one million dollars for eighth place, and then George

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Lehman seven hundred and fifty k for ninth place. Do

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you want to mention. Tenth place finisher was none other

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than Chris Moneymaker five hundred K for mister money Maker,

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which is pretty incredible. But listen, we have to give

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our flowers to Zo, the twenty four year old champion.

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He started playing online, according to what I was reading online,

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mostly from pokernews dot com, started playing online when he

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was eighteen years old. So he claimed to have played

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millions of hands online, both cash games and tournaments. From

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watching the live stream, I watched a bit of the

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stuff that was happening both WPT and Paradise as much

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as I could. Zoo looked the part, played the part.

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He pulled this crazy, wild bluff against Michael o'damo, which

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it was an incredible bluff. Yes, I think it was

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even better or got a little bit more shine in

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the spotlight because it was against a domo, and normally

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it's a domo who's pulling these crazy bluffs, right, So

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I guess just quickly on that hand, between Adamo and Zoo,

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the blinds were two million, four million, which is just

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freaking wild to even say. Under the gun Zou race

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to eight million. He had ace jack off. Adamo defended

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from the big line with ace ten off. It came

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ten to seven to four with two clubs tennis spade

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seven club's four clubs. Adamo checked zou bet six million,

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which was just over twenty percent pot. Adamo made the call,

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turns the nine of hearts. Adamo decides to lead for

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what was just over twenty percent pot eight point five million.

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Zao opts to raise with his ace high to twenty million.

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Adamo makes the call. Domo does have the best hand.

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He did flop that top hair, top kicker. River is

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the queen of diamonds. Adamo goes for a check. Zoo

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goes for it forty seven and a half million, which

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is seventy percent of the pot. Adamo folds And that

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was the bluff heard round the world, at least for December,

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because I'm sure we'll have another one coming up soon.

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But that was really kind of the I guess coming

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out party for Zo. It in a way like, Hey,

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I'm here to win, I'm here to go up against

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the best. It doesn't matter that this is Michael O'damo.

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tough spots. I'm gonna put him in a tough spot.

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And it ultimately worked out. What did you think about

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Zoo's play or this bluff anything.

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Speaker 3: He's just he's just lost it. He's just not good anymore.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, you know, he used to be the greatest in

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the world, and he's just he's falling apart on the

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world's biggest stage. He's just it's just disrespectful to the

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Australian flag, is what I have to say.

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Speaker 1: So, I mean, you want to talk about falling apart

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in the world's biggest How about Tony Parker?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that I mean that was.

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Speaker 1: NBA Legend of the San Antonio Spurs. He's down.

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Speaker 3: Did he play with the Charlotte season He's last season?

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's so he gets in a hand with was

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it bow Ding? It was early in the event, or

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at least earlier in the event. Ding opens with the

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min rais. I think the blinds were eight sixteen. He

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made it thirty two K, folds over to Parker, who

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has pocket kings. He makes it sixty four K, so

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essentially a click, it goes back over to Ding. He

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jams Ace Queen. I can't remember if it was suited

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or offsuit, but nonetheless he jams Ace Queen Parker tanks

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forever and folds the kings, just an absolutely outrageous fold

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that almost sent Ali Najade off the top of the Atlantis.

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I mean, just I would have had to leave the

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commentary book. To be honest, I'm not sure I could

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have continued after that. I mean, I don't know what

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Tony Parker was doing, but that's what he did. Anyway.

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That's a sing.

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Speaker 3: Let's let okay, let's think about this.

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Speaker 2: How much poka do you think Tony Poker plays outside

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of this when he comes to the World Series and.

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Speaker 1: You're folding kings?

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Speaker 2: No, but like, bro, maybe he just thinks that like

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when someone remember how it used to be back in

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the day when someone three Bayu they had kings or races.

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Maybe he's got that mindset, so he's just like the

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guy has to have ass is not all the way.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's probably what he's thinking.

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Speaker 2: Is probably very simple, basic logic and kind of understandable

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for someone that does not play poko. You know, I'm

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not saying I'm saying it's a good follow I'm just

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saying I'm trying to get into his head.

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Speaker 1: Well, according to what Tony Parker told Poker News. He said,

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I folded pocket Kings. I heard. I don't know. They

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told me that he had Ace Queen. But it's one

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of those games where you just have to go with

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your feeling and how you feel the guys at the table.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's a field player. I love it. He's

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my favorite player already.

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Speaker 1: Now it was Ace Queen Offsey. By the way, it's

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just it's an absolutely positively outrageous fold. I mean, one

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of the worst folds I've ever seen in my life.

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It just has to be there's nothing good about it. Anyway,

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back to this event, uh so Yin Enzou, twenty four

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year old Chinese player comes out on top. I will

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say that these Chinese players, by the way, they're going

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to be a problem, and like in a good way.

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Like they're like these You see a lot of these

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young Chinese players taking to poker and you have no

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idea who they are, and they start coming to the WSP,

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they come to big events like WSP Paradise. There was

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a bunch of them that I ran into it WPT

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World Championship. Like you see them all over now and

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they're just so good and they're young and they're fucking hungry,

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and they're fierce, and they don't give a crap, as

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evidenced by the fact that Zau just you know, decided

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to go for it against Adamo in this hand with

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this crazy bluff. I mean, these players are extremely good.

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So I'm just saying like they're going to be a

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problem in the sense that, you know, don't be scared

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or don't or sorry, don't be surprised. I should say,

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if you know, next WSP you have like fifteen of

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them them winning gold braces something something like that. Right, Like,

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they're much like you know, the Brazilians kind of came

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onto the scene more recently, like years and years ago.

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It used to be like the Brazilians are off of poker,

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like go to Brazil for all the LAPT events. It's bad,

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they're horrible down there. But now a lot of the

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Brazilians are some of the best players in the world.

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I feel like we're gonna start seeing that with some

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of these Chinese players, and probably, you know, on a

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more broad scale, the Asian players in general. They're just

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playing a lot more. They're super sharp, they're all studying

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and they're doing their own thing, you know.

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Speaker 2: So I quickly pulled out my stat stock, but it

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needs a lot of updating. But twenty twenty three World Series,

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I was just thinking, as you're talking about the Chinese players,

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I was like, oh, they won a lot of bracelets.

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Speaker 3: At you.

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Speaker 2: They won six bracelets with ranks equal second with Canada,

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the most bracelets of the twenty twenty three World Series

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of Poker.

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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna go already, coming on.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to go on record right now that says

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twenty twenty five dovs. But they're gonna win the second

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most bracelets. It'll be USA number one, just because USA

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has the most players, of course, and then it's going

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to be China number two for sure, Like I'll bet

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on it.

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Speaker 2: It's really out of who like Canada to China, Brazil, Germany, Australia.

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Speaker 3: That's kind of it, right, I guess England.

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Speaker 1: England is kind of like I feel like, not so

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much anymore. I feel like they used to be. I

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feel like they just don't have that many as many

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players as they once did. Yeah, I mean not that

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not that the players that they don't have aren't really good.

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I mean they are, but you know, it's just not

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as many as it once was. Canadians I feel like

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aren't as many because of the whole tax situation, you

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know that sort of thing. A lot of the a

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lot of the really top Canadians like don't come and

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put in massive volumes like they might come for the

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main event or some of the really big high rollers,

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but not putting in those huge, huge volumes that they

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used to. So you know, it's tricky. So yeah, I'm

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gonna say China gets the most second most bracelets next summer.

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That's my that's my bet. So yeah, crazy win here, obviously,

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crazy event in general. I'll get your thoughts on on

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a little bit more of that in a bit, But

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I do want to hit on this Bonomo controversy that

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kind of dropped out of nowhere, I guess just because

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it's he fired off a tweet saying like they so

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he was wearing. So it turned out to be a cafia,

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I believe. If I'm pronouncing that correctly, which is, for

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lack of a better terms, it looks like a scarf, okay,

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and it's worn in support of Palestine. Palestine right, and

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Bontomo of course, has been extremely vocal on on social

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media about what's going on over in the Middle East, right,

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and you know, he's obviously very polarizing on this topic.

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I'm not going to get into all that sort of

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stuff because we're not going.

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Speaker 3: To do that.

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Speaker 1: But what is interesting here is that he tweeted out

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that the doubs a p was going to disqualify him

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from the event. What he said was down to sixteen

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players in the twenty five K Superminis informed me that

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I will be disqualified from the tournament if I don't

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take my kafia off. He said, pretty fucked that they'll

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run a charity tournament for the IDF, but won't let

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me wear a scarf because it was made in Palestine. Now,

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that last part about the tournament for the idea, if

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there was a charity tournament down there, I don't think

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from what I've heard that it was directly for the IDF.

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It was more for like widows and children and stuff

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like that, people who have lost loved ones, lost parents,

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et cetera. So we're just gonna leave that to a

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side for a second or all together. But it's it

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seems pretty crazy that the wasby took this stance. To

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be honest, I mean, I don't have a side here,

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like I'm not going to side with Bontamo for what

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he believes in or side for the people on the

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other side. I'm not here to make my opinions heard

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on that. It just seems like he's I mean, I'm

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sure they have some sort of rule on the books

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that they can kind of do whatever they want. They're

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gonna deny political statements that sort of stuff, But it

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seems weird that you would all of a sudden do

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this now and then It's kind of interesting that it's

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juxtaposed between the fact that they had this charity tournament

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there it's Bonama who's so vocal when I'm I'm sure

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there has to be plenty of times where there's been

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something similar worn by someone during the summer, right, Like,

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there's just so much going on that like somebody has

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to have something on, Like, for example, if I show

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up wearing a a Maga hat, isn't that kind of like,

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you know, is that is that? Like I mean, are

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they gonna say, oh, no, you can't, you can't do

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that like that type of thing.

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Speaker 2: I think there was some talk where you know, these

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this this, these streams are going to cut into episodes,

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these episodes would be going to network TV. Uh, and

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that's where it was going to be an issue. Whilst

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the IDF Tournament it wasn't streamed. It was just an

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event that was held where it wasn't you know, gonna

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be on network TV and affect anything like that. So

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from that aspect, it kind of makes sense. I actually

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spoke to Palestinian friend of mine that I play soccer with,

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and he says that that like that item is you know,

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in a way the I don't even know how to

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say this probably, but it's becoming like synonymous with the

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whole kind of Palestine.

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Speaker 1: If you wear it in support of Palestine like that,

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it's one of those things that if you're I'll say,

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an outsider, but like if you know, if you're I mean,

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I would bottom was an outsider in the sense that

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he's not there in the middle of it all is

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what I'm trying to get it. And you can wear

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it in support just like when I mentioned the Make

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America Great Again hat, Like you wear that in support

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of Donald Trump or the Republican Party, Like that's just

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what you do, right, yeah, wearing if Tim shows up

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in a Denver Broncos jersey yes, that's what you do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and like it's there's no statement on

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this For those who haven't seen on this scoff, it's

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literally just a white and blue patterned scarf that Bonomo

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was wearing over his shoulders, so he wasn't wearing it

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like a headband like you know some people might think.

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Speaker 3: But I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I'm not against the decision if it's based on a

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reason such as what we've kind of discussed, like the

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whole TV aspect. I just think the WSP should have

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been ahead of that, you know, instead of letting Bonomo,

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you know, come out and say what everyone's to say,

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he should have they should have said this is the

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reasons why and immediately kind of issued not a statement,

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but like maybe via social said something just to like

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calm the whole noise that this ended up creating around

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the social universe.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I thought it was just extremely interesting

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and very bold, to say the least, for the w

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s B to take this stance, because I mean, you

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take this stance as an organization, I mean you're kind

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of picking aside in a way, you know, like you

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have to you have to, I guess rule on equal

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footing in a lot of situations. So you know, what

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if something happens during the summer where somebody's playing at

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Bonomo's table and they're supporting something, you know, by by

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wearing a garment or wearing a T shirt that says something,

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or a hat or you know, maybe they have some

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sort of chip or sorry card protector or whatever it

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may be, and Bonnamball calls it out, but they don't

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do anything. Then like then it then it becomes a

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whole another situation. So it's just I don't know, it

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kind of like weirdly opens this can of worms that

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I just never thought that the w SP would would

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go down because I'm also not I'm not sure that

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a lot of I mean, you mentioned the TV stuff,

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like what a lot of people even draw the or

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connect the dots or they just think, oh, he's wearing

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a scarf.

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Speaker 2: I think the majority of the world would say is

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a scarf?

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Speaker 1: But that's what I mean. So like they're like they

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made it into something that it that maybe people didn't

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or would have never thought.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so, which I think it's some other question of interesting.

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Speaker 2: You know, if it's GG producing episodes sending it to

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a CBS or something, and then CBS being like, no,

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you kind of have this, you know, because obviously they

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would understand the more logistics behind the political stuff.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I thought it was I also

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thought it was interesting because this is now the two

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biggest WSP event events, like in a row WSB main

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event in the summer and now this WSP Paradise Super

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main event, where there's been like some controversy that in

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a way is kind of taken center stage. Like you

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had the whole laptop Gate stuff happen and that really

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like took the spotlight away from Jonathan Tomio's win in

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the summer or at the end of the summer, and

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then here, I mean, for you know whatever anywhere from

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twenty four to seventy two hours and you know, like

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we're talking about it on this podcast, a lot of

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people have been talking about on social media like it's

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almost like let's forget about ZAO and just focus on

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this controversial ruling that happened, you know, And it's kind

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of just it's interesting that that has happened and it's

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both involved these two massive WSITY events. I just I

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don't know, I just find that kind of like weirdly coincidental,

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is all I guess. So other notable finishes from this

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event you had ren Linn Speaking of Chinese players, ren

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Linn is just always crushing it. Eleventh place for three

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hundred and seventy k srel Mitzi's sixtheenth place excuse me

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for two hundred ninety five thousand dollars. Chris Claude Nikki

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Back in the Mix, twenty sixth for one hundred and

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eighty thousand dollars. Aplu Garza Your Guy, Oh Boy, Sweet

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Lou thirty six for one hundred and forty one thousand dollars.

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Matthew Wantman, he's a regular on the PGT. He got

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forty sixth for one hundred and forty thousand dollars. Nick

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Patrangel I think finished forty seventh for one hundred and

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forty thousand dollars as well. Darren Elias. I was actually

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surprised to see Darren Olias there and not in Vegas

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for the bed MGM series fifty eighth for one hundred

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and ten thousand dollars for him. Stephen Chidwick eighty six

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for eighty six thousand dollars. Nick Shulman, who had a

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pretty good series ninety second for eighty six thousand dollars.

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Alex Foxen cash in one hundred and thirty fifth place,

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as did his wife Kristen Fox and she finished in

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two hundred and tenth place. And then a couple of

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legendary players here, Eric's Sidel one hundred and sixty first,

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Daniel legrand New one hundred and seventieth, and John Juwanda

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one hundred and seventy first. All right, so specific to

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the ws AP, super Duper Main Event is always the

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super Duper Main event in my world, Tim, what are

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your overall thoughts like about the event, about the near

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reaching of the guarantee, just kind of give it to me.

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Speaker 2: As you mentioned at the top of the show, a

473
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:52,440
little bit of skepticism on the numbers. I'm not saying

474
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,599
that they didn't hit it, but you know it's from

475
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,119
the start they weren't very transparent on how many were

476
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,599
on the online flights. And you know, we saw a

477
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:05,000
tweet that came out about changing the structure and changing

478
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,519
how the event was, the schedule and everything, and.

479
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 1: Wait, well, quickly, the stuff you saw on social media

480
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,519
that you're referencing about the changing of the structure is

481
00:25:14,519 --> 00:25:17,279
that they extended the late registration period by a level.

482
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,039
I think it was maybe two levels. I can't remember

483
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:26,000
something with two levels. Seems a little bit questionable to

484
00:25:26,079 --> 00:25:29,200
be able to do that after after the event like started,

485
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:31,279
after people have traveled they're like all that sort of stuff,

486
00:25:31,319 --> 00:25:32,599
so interesting there.

487
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that, you know, I think that puts a

488
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:40,000
little bit of a distaste in player's mouth because you know,

489
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,079
you're basically trying to not overlay so much, and people

490
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,519
are obviously traveling there thinking, hey, this is going to overlay.

491
00:25:46,559 --> 00:25:49,039
I would I'm going to my EV goes up, I'm

492
00:25:49,039 --> 00:25:52,279
going to partake, and then when you change the structure

493
00:25:52,319 --> 00:25:56,359
of the event, you know, you're basically, you know, eating

494
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:56,880
up their EV.

495
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 3: So I didn't really like that.

496
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 2: The fact that they did get so close, whether thember

497
00:26:00,279 --> 00:26:02,839
is real or not, is great. You know, you say,

498
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,039
nineteen hundred and seventy eight entrance. I would love to

499
00:26:06,079 --> 00:26:07,440
see a unique number.

500
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:08,160
Speaker 3: You know.

501
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,039
Speaker 2: I did hear from certain players about big name pros

502
00:26:12,079 --> 00:26:16,359
being in for ten twelve bullets, some disgusting album.

503
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, two hundred and fifty K jeez.

504
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 3: That's why I'd love to see the unique list.

505
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 2: And I kind of know exactly what that number is

506
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:29,960
for some some players. So but outside of that the positives,

507
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,759
I thought the coverage was great. Like you, I watched

508
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,880
nearly every day when I wasn't either playing or doing

509
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,200
something else, and that, you know, kudos out there to

510
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:41,519
try it and the gig team for that.

511
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,519
Speaker 3: I thought their social was great.

512
00:26:43,519 --> 00:26:46,839
Speaker 2: They were just kind of doing stuff And I know

513
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:52,279
that sounds really silly, but compared to how they've handled

514
00:26:52,519 --> 00:26:55,440
you know, previous WSP events, they it looks like they

515
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,200
were actively trying to do more and I think.

516
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:02,039
Speaker 3: That's good for both WSP but also just all the

517
00:27:02,079 --> 00:27:03,079
events that are going around.

518
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 2: You know, in December, you know, we're going to talk

519
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,720
about WBT, We're going to talk about EBT product. There's

520
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,680
just a lot going on, and WSP were making sure

521
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,799
that they were a talking point. So that, Yeah, that's

522
00:27:14,839 --> 00:27:18,039
kind of what I take out of the main event.

523
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 1: Do you think they'll run it back in twenty twenty

524
00:27:22,759 --> 00:27:26,200
five with the same fifty million dollars guarantee? Is there

525
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,279
a chance in your mind they go bigger? Will they

526
00:27:28,319 --> 00:27:31,079
pull it back go smaller? What are your thoughts there?

527
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,039
Speaker 2: I really don't know. I could see them changing it.

528
00:27:35,039 --> 00:27:38,440
It annoys me that the first two years of this

529
00:27:38,519 --> 00:27:40,000
series the main events different.

530
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: I mean last year last year was like the WSB

531
00:27:43,039 --> 00:27:44,960
Paradise main event was a ten k buy in.

532
00:27:45,559 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 3: This year it's five k bying.

533
00:27:47,319 --> 00:27:49,599
Speaker 1: It's this or yeah, five k buying. This year it's

534
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,680
this super duper main event with the twenty five k

535
00:27:52,799 --> 00:27:53,279
buy and you.

536
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 2: Know, and like it's next year going to go back

537
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,359
to ten k, and then it's just like the consistency

538
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:57,599
is not.

539
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: There, go to fifty k for all I know, Like,

540
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,799
I mean, there's no whatsoever.

541
00:28:02,799 --> 00:28:04,519
Speaker 2: If I had to choose, I would just say, hey,

542
00:28:04,559 --> 00:28:06,880
just keep keep it as it is.

543
00:28:07,759 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 3: Now.

544
00:28:08,559 --> 00:28:12,319
Speaker 2: Are they going to reduce the main event guarantee? They

545
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,680
probably have a little bit too much prior to do that,

546
00:28:14,839 --> 00:28:18,359
So I guess from a betting man, I'd probably say

547
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,440
it's going to be run back very similar, twenty five

548
00:28:21,519 --> 00:28:26,680
k super main event, fifty million guarantee.

549
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: Did you talk to any players about this event? What

550
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,240
were any thoughts that you heard on it? Did people

551
00:28:33,319 --> 00:28:36,519
think that they found value in playing it? I mean

552
00:28:36,839 --> 00:28:41,559
me from Afar watching the coverage, looking through the updates,

553
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,000
it seemed like it was eighty percent really good players.

554
00:28:46,079 --> 00:28:47,960
I'm like sitting here wondering, like, where the hell is

555
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:48,880
the value in this thing?

556
00:28:50,039 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 2: The value is obviously in the potential overlay, right, and

557
00:28:53,079 --> 00:28:54,519
then you also.

558
00:28:54,319 --> 00:28:57,119
Speaker 1: Have al like you know, you don't, Yeah.

559
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 2: It's always potential. But then there's also the million free

560
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:05,359
role they had. They also had the whole bitcoin locked

561
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,279
in price thing, so there was some ev in other ways.

562
00:29:10,079 --> 00:29:11,920
And I believe a lot of players were getting free

563
00:29:12,079 --> 00:29:13,680
comped rooms, so.

564
00:29:13,599 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 3: There is some EV there.

565
00:29:16,119 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 2: The most things I heard from players were negative, but

566
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:24,359
not negative towards the event. It was more I was

567
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,640
just kind of sick of the mahamas. I was over it,

568
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,880
you know, more of that than than like then the

569
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,279
actual specifics of the event. So it's very like, you know,

570
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:39,599
individual and personalized. A lot of players traveled back prior

571
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,559
to the million dollar free role, so that's quite surprising

572
00:29:42,599 --> 00:29:45,759
that they, you know, these these players are giving up

573
00:29:45,799 --> 00:29:49,160
that ev. I don't I don't know how many entrants

574
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,880
were could have maxed that and then out, but you

575
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,640
could kind of calculate the ev that they would give

576
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,559
up that to come back here to Vegas to play

577
00:29:57,599 --> 00:29:59,839
the last you know, the last flight of the main

578
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,759
or whatever. Events that were coming back for So that

579
00:30:02,839 --> 00:30:06,720
kind of surprised me. But yeah, I didn't really hear

580
00:30:06,759 --> 00:30:09,680
anything negative about the actual event that we kind of

581
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:10,720
haven't already discussed.

582
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:16,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I'm just curious to try and know

583
00:30:17,079 --> 00:30:21,319
if players would opt to go back, like if they

584
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,680
if they went this time, obviously going because oh this

585
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,440
is a twenty five k it's got a fifty million

586
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,920
dollar guarantee, you know, hopefully it'll be pretty good. But

587
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,680
then if you I'm talking about the specific like play

588
00:30:31,839 --> 00:30:33,640
like and if you get into the event, it's not

589
00:30:34,359 --> 00:30:36,559
as valuable as you might have thought. You're planning on

590
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,920
a lot of really tough players. Do you not then,

591
00:30:40,559 --> 00:30:43,480
like overextend yourself to go, you know, spend a week

592
00:30:43,519 --> 00:30:45,680
and a half or however long into Bahamas, you know,

593
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,160
possibly pay for flight and hotel and all that sort

594
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,759
of stuff that comes with not only just going to

595
00:30:51,839 --> 00:30:54,319
like this specific event, but traveling for any event. Like

596
00:30:54,359 --> 00:30:56,640
it's it's a lot on you, right, Like, it's a

597
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,400
lot of travel, it's a lot of extra money that

598
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,000
you have to pay, which is essentially rake on ongoing

599
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,599
to a tournament like this. So you know, did did

600
00:31:04,599 --> 00:31:07,039
they deem that it was worth it, you know, from

601
00:31:07,079 --> 00:31:10,519
a player of perspective or player of value perspective, I'd

602
00:31:10,599 --> 00:31:13,799
be curious to know or if they feel like maybe

603
00:31:13,839 --> 00:31:17,839
like most specifically players within the States are even even

604
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,599
you know, focus that in a little bit more players

605
00:31:20,599 --> 00:31:23,400
out of Vegas, Like, am I just going to stay

606
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,519
there and do the WPT thing next year?

607
00:31:26,079 --> 00:31:26,279
Speaker 3: You know?

608
00:31:26,599 --> 00:31:28,799
Speaker 1: Or am I going to again jump to the Bahamas?

609
00:31:28,839 --> 00:31:29,240
I don't.

610
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:30,799
Speaker 3: It's going to be on the schedule.

611
00:31:30,839 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 2: These guys are always going to choose the best schedule

612
00:31:33,039 --> 00:31:36,279
what they think is best for them. Obviously, Paradise offered

613
00:31:37,519 --> 00:31:40,720
in a lot of people's mind decent value with the

614
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,000
the Super Super Dupid main event and the free roll.

615
00:31:44,559 --> 00:31:47,119
Now if they don't have that next year and and

616
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:51,359
WPT bring back, say a guarantee, well then hey, maybe

617
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:56,160
there's more incentive to stay in Vegas. Maybe Paradise doubles

618
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,119
down and does even more, tries to give up more

619
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,240
value for players and in a way take some of

620
00:32:02,279 --> 00:32:04,000
the people that didn't go this year.

621
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,599
Speaker 3: So so he's going to be a schedule thing. You know.

622
00:32:06,759 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 2: We'll see what both series announce and then players will

623
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,920
start kind of making their mind up from there.

624
00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 1: Speaking of the schedule other events that took place at

625
00:32:18,799 --> 00:32:21,440
WSP Paradise and the winners of those events. You had

626
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,720
Jeff Hakeim winning the twenty seven hundred and fifty dollars

627
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,559
Mini Main Event for five hundred and seventy five thousand dollars.

628
00:32:28,559 --> 00:32:32,440
This event had two thousand and thirty one entries. A

629
00:32:32,559 --> 00:32:36,920
Lejandro Lecoco won the five hundred and twenty five thousand

630
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,680
dollars Triton Million. This was the event where it's called

631
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,240
the Triton Million because I guess technically it's a million

632
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,400
dollar buying because you had to go in in pairs,

633
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,920
you had to have a VIP that was playing, and

634
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,279
then that VIP invited a pro. There was ninety six

635
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,799
entries in this one and Locco won it all for

636
00:32:54,039 --> 00:32:58,640
just over twelve million dollars. Locco has become an absolute

637
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,759
freaking force on the poker scene in recent years. I

638
00:33:02,799 --> 00:33:05,240
know he was like wild and crazy when he made

639
00:33:05,279 --> 00:33:08,200
that w SP main event run a handful of years ago,

640
00:33:08,319 --> 00:33:11,799
and ever since then, I feel like he's just gotten

641
00:33:11,839 --> 00:33:14,400
better and better and better and continues to dominate and

642
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:18,519
now has obviously a massive, massive score for just over

643
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:23,440
twelve million dollars. Lataro Guerra the PLO Crusher won the

644
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,960
one hundred and three thousand dollars PLO Super high Roller

645
00:33:26,039 --> 00:33:28,960
for two million, one hundred and twenty six thousand dollars.

646
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,960
He topped the field of eighty eight entries there. Eric

647
00:33:32,079 --> 00:33:35,920
Wasserson finally got a World Series of Poker Gold race

648
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,960
that he won the twenty six thousand dollars Dealers Choice

649
00:33:39,039 --> 00:33:41,519
Championship for three hundred and fifty three thousand dollars. This

650
00:33:41,559 --> 00:33:43,960
event had forty nine entries. This event, by the way,

651
00:33:44,079 --> 00:33:47,880
had a little controversy itself because wasn't it on the

652
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,880
schedule as like a twenty one game Dealer's Voice, and

653
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,920
then they announced in like Level two that they were

654
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,759
changing into a ten game. So you know, according to

655
00:33:56,799 --> 00:34:00,680
who you talk to, that was always the plan. But personally,

656
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,960
I find it hard that it was always the plan

657
00:34:03,039 --> 00:34:06,160
if it wasn't publicized beforehand, Like, I don't know how

658
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,360
you can claim that it was always the plan yet

659
00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:12,000
it wasn't publicized beforehand, And then you talk to some

660
00:34:12,039 --> 00:34:14,519
other sources and they said that everyone that plays it, no,

661
00:34:14,559 --> 00:34:15,880
it was always going to be a ten game. What

662
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,760
do you mean, like you mean, every everyone that could

663
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:25,159
have played it. No, you have to like that. You

664
00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:27,400
have to talk to everyone because it's not like one

665
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,159
of those events where like you sign up ahead of

666
00:34:29,199 --> 00:34:31,119
time and it's capped and you know, all like forty

667
00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:33,639
nine players in the field, like you or I could

668
00:34:33,639 --> 00:34:36,199
have showed up yeah and been like, oh, we're playing,

669
00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:38,400
but no one told us like that. Just it seems

670
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,320
like they're backtracking there, which is, you know, just another

671
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,239
kind of like weird, interesting thing to come out of

672
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:44,719
this series.

673
00:34:46,079 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, WSP are not good at structure sheets, like even

674
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,679
the ones in the Vegas they kind of leave out

675
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,679
important information. So I think whether or not this was

676
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,280
true or not that it was ten game Mix put

677
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,400
it on the structure sheet.

678
00:35:00,039 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was That was just weird.

679
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: Ley You who Zoo claimed is a Chinese super pro.

680
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,920
He won the fifty three hundred dollars Nolan Man hold

681
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,039
Him Deep Stack event for two hundred ninety three thousand dollars.

682
00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:16,000
This event had three hundred and sixty three entries. Alex

683
00:35:16,079 --> 00:35:19,960
Foxen we all know Alex Foxen. He won the one

684
00:35:20,039 --> 00:35:22,760
hundred and six thousand dollars Buying Triton Main Event for

685
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,519
three point eight five million dollars one hundred and eighty

686
00:35:26,559 --> 00:35:30,079
two entries. Here played a six six sick hand against

687
00:35:30,159 --> 00:35:33,280
Jiao Vieira in heads up play where he called with

688
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,719
I believe it was bottom pair with I think it

689
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,400
was eight deuce in his hand. Just a great, great hand,

690
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,400
great performance there from Alex fox When when Foxen is

691
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,000
locked in and he's locked in like ninety eight percent

692
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,760
of the time, I mean, good luck beating that guy seriously.

693
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,880
Steven Chidwick won the fifty two thousand dollars PLO Championship

694
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,159
for one million, three hundred and fifty seven thousand dollars.

695
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:58,639
He topped a field of one hundred and twenty two entries. Stevie, listen, wrong, wsop,

696
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,079
we drafted did you for the summer WSP. You were

697
00:36:02,079 --> 00:36:05,599
supposed to win one of the big PLO tournaments there

698
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,519
not this not in paradise. This doesn't count for fantasy, Stevie,

699
00:36:09,559 --> 00:36:12,639
Come on, man, do me a solid good lord. Mike

700
00:36:12,679 --> 00:36:16,239
Gardinski got another bracelet ten thousand and four dollars PLO.

701
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,559
He won for three hundred ninety three thousand dollars. This

702
00:36:18,599 --> 00:36:22,480
event had two hundred entries. Johann Straver won the ten

703
00:36:22,519 --> 00:36:26,719
thousand and four dollars Gigi Millions Championship for a whopping

704
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,400
eight hundred and seven thousand dollars five hundred and thirty

705
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,440
two entries there. Thomas Fuchs probably butchered that name won

706
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,360
the fifty two thousand dollars high Roller one point two

707
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,480
nine to two million, one hundred and thirty entries there.

708
00:36:40,559 --> 00:36:46,320
Nick Shulman fifty three hundred dollars closer Turbo Bounty won

709
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,719
it for one hundred and forty five thousand dollars. This

710
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,360
was a crazy final table. It had Sean Deeb, It

711
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,079
had renln with I think Renlin finished in the second place.

712
00:36:54,119 --> 00:36:57,679
It had Negrand new At, It had a Santos servanna At.

713
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,760
It so wild final table. There dred and thirty eight

714
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,639
entries in that one, and then Pablo Silva won the

715
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,239
Summer Saver Internationalist. Was that million dollar free roll at

716
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,119
the end of the series. Four hundred and eighty seven

717
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,760
entries were in it, two hundred K for Silva. Shulman

718
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:18,559
another bracelet. He was asked afterwards, but I can't remember

719
00:37:18,559 --> 00:37:20,960
if it was Pokernews or poker dot org forgive me,

720
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,480
but somebody asked him about the Hall of Fame. He was.

721
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,639
I would say he changed his tune a little bit

722
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,559
compared to when you talked with him in the summer.

723
00:37:33,039 --> 00:37:35,000
When you talked with them in the summer, he was like,

724
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,360
I'm one of the best in the world. I believe

725
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,000
that I want to be in the Hall of Fame,

726
00:37:40,119 --> 00:37:42,480
like you know, all that sort of stuff. And now

727
00:37:42,519 --> 00:37:46,119
he was kind of like put off and just kind

728
00:37:46,119 --> 00:37:48,000
of said, you know, I don't really care about that

729
00:37:48,119 --> 00:37:49,800
or think about that sort of stuff. You know, So

730
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:52,079
it could just be Nick like in the moment just

731
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:52,519
having it.

732
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:53,679
Speaker 3: I have a take on that.

733
00:37:54,039 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 1: What's the take? He likes you and he doesn't like them.

734
00:37:57,639 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 2: No, seriously, Well, remember my interview was off to the side.

735
00:38:02,079 --> 00:38:06,880
We sat for ten minutes no camera. This one on camera,

736
00:38:08,119 --> 00:38:10,920
and we know how Nick is, you know, I think

737
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,599
he cares about his image. He's persona and he was

738
00:38:13,679 --> 00:38:17,239
just very selective with his words while there was a

739
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,639
camera present. So I think my interview is what he

740
00:38:20,679 --> 00:38:23,400
really feels. But this was he was just you know,

741
00:38:23,519 --> 00:38:27,000
being the the Nick Schulman that people are kind of

742
00:38:27,119 --> 00:38:30,039
accustomed to singing or speaking to.

743
00:38:30,199 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 1: I like Kaki Nick Schulman.

744
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:32,119
Speaker 3: Oh, I love it too.

745
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,599
Speaker 1: You know, I don't like humble Nick Schulman. I like

746
00:38:34,639 --> 00:38:36,960
the cockings. Not not that it was like overly cocky

747
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:37,800
in a bad way.

748
00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:40,079
Speaker 3: But it was it was confident, right rightually cocky.

749
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. I mean he is one of the

750
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,679
best players in the world. I think he certainly deserves

751
00:38:45,039 --> 00:38:47,639
to get into the Hall of Fame. I believe I

752
00:38:47,679 --> 00:38:49,840
saw Daniel Legrand new I think it was it was

753
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,519
either in his log or maybe on Twitter. I can't

754
00:38:52,559 --> 00:38:55,719
remember exactly, but he said, you know, he's probably gonna

755
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,360
get in or something like that. But we talked about

756
00:38:58,400 --> 00:38:59,719
this a couple of times now this year.

757
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 3: We talked.

758
00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 1: But over the summer. Next year is going to be

759
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:07,559
interesting because Scott Zever's up right, no one's up like

760
00:39:07,639 --> 00:39:11,000
this is what do you think in those two? I mean,

761
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,079
that's that's very close between those two. Do you have

762
00:39:14,119 --> 00:39:18,199
any other lingering thoughts on WSP Paradise before.

763
00:39:18,039 --> 00:39:21,519
Speaker 3: We move on? Yeah, let's move it to January.

764
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: Well that's I.

765
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 2: Mean earlier this earlier in November. I don't know, I mean, okay, wait,

766
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:27,440
wait real quick.

767
00:39:27,639 --> 00:39:29,519
Speaker 1: I don't hate moving it to January. I just I

768
00:39:29,599 --> 00:39:33,760
wonder I wonder now if they've now had two years

769
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,960
of this, I would I would think that they view

770
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,639
it as a success. You know, even though it's going

771
00:39:39,679 --> 00:39:41,880
head to head with the WPT World Championship and also

772
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,159
you know, basically head to head with EPT Prog. I

773
00:39:44,199 --> 00:39:47,960
still think that they view it as a success. So

774
00:39:48,519 --> 00:39:50,519
in their mind, like why move it?

775
00:39:51,599 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 3: Sure?

776
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 2: I mean, how many Americans went to this series is

777
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:56,199
my first question?

778
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 1: Because you can move it a few going to be

779
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,880
international and then w Sampionship is always going to be USA.

780
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you move it a little closer to Thanksgiving,

781
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,559
even overlapping Thanksgiving, I think that actually will get you

782
00:40:08,599 --> 00:40:10,519
more numbers, more Americans.

783
00:40:10,639 --> 00:40:13,559
Speaker 1: And then then you're going heads up with Seminole. You're going

784
00:40:13,639 --> 00:40:14,920
you're possibly going heads up with.

785
00:40:15,079 --> 00:40:19,079
Speaker 3: It's different, completely different event. I guess Seminal's three three

786
00:40:19,199 --> 00:40:21,119
K main event. Seminal will move.

787
00:40:21,199 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 1: This also has some ten k's, five k's and twenty

788
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:24,880
five k's.

789
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,760
Speaker 2: It has one of those in each. Seminal will move.

790
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,960
I guarantee you Seminal will move their event.

791
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Seminal. First of all, semon will probably already

792
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,440
announced their dates because they usually announced it.

793
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're pretty.

794
00:40:36,119 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: Well in events, not that they announced the full schedules,

795
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,840
but the dates are usually out for the next year.

796
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,960
But Seminal just draws from so many people that are

797
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,280
just in Florida that just literally drive to the casino. Yeah,

798
00:40:48,639 --> 00:40:54,079
all right, WPT World Championship at Win Las Vegas, no guarantee,

799
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,320
No problem, Tim, Because the WPT ten thousand and four

800
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:02,159
in at All World Championship drew two thousand, three hundred

801
00:41:02,159 --> 00:41:06,199
and ninety two entries. That makes for a twenty three million,

802
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:10,480
four hundred and forty one thousand dollars prize pool. Remember

803
00:41:10,519 --> 00:41:13,239
the first year they had a fifteen million dollar guarantee,

804
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,400
that was in twenty twenty two, and for twenty twenty

805
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,239
three they upped it to what at the time was

806
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,360
a record for the largest guarantee in live tournament poker,

807
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,119
forty million dollars. They fell about two million dollars short.

808
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,679
This year they ran it back, but no guarantee on

809
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,280
this event, but they still drew well. Listen, I said

810
00:41:32,519 --> 00:41:35,440
coming into it that this would be a test to

811
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:40,920
the loyalty that the WPT has or claims that it

812
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,440
has with its player base, and I would think that

813
00:41:44,599 --> 00:41:48,400
this is a success in terms of like tapping into

814
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:53,239
that loyalty because almost twenty four hundred entries came out

815
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,960
for a ten K with no guarantee, which is wild. Now,

816
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,599
it's obviously a big drop off in feel size from

817
00:42:00,679 --> 00:42:05,199
last year, but last year did have a forty million

818
00:42:05,199 --> 00:42:09,079
dollar guarantee. Yes, but twenty four hundred entries. I mean,

819
00:42:09,119 --> 00:42:12,360
that's really, really, really effing good. Let me say that

820
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,159
my concern would be that without a guarantee, you just

821
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,559
continue to see a decline year after year, right, Like

822
00:42:19,079 --> 00:42:21,119
it goes down to twenty four hundred this year, next

823
00:42:21,159 --> 00:42:24,000
year it's two thousand. Year after that it's seventeen hundred,

824
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,079
you know, like that's how it trends over the years.

825
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,599
That would be my concern. That said, the positive side

826
00:42:29,599 --> 00:42:32,400
of this is that I think a lot of people saw, like,

827
00:42:33,159 --> 00:42:36,840
holy crap, they got you know, almost twenty four hundred entries,

828
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,840
more than twenty three million dollars in the prize pool,

829
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,519
Like this is still the event like in December. So

830
00:42:43,079 --> 00:42:44,760
I think there's that side of things. So I have

831
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,079
no idea which way it's gonna go for next year,

832
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,679
but you know, that's kind of my initial opening take there.

833
00:42:52,039 --> 00:42:55,280
Scott Stewart, winner of It All, Your Boy, Stu as

834
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,760
he goes, but I wanted for two million, five hundred

835
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,559
and sixty three thousand dollars. After a deal, he made

836
00:43:01,599 --> 00:43:04,480
a deal three handed. It was Scott Stewart, it was

837
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,599
Rob Sherwood, and it was Edward Pack. The original payouts

838
00:43:08,599 --> 00:43:11,639
were three million, one hundred and thirty eight nine hundred

839
00:43:11,639 --> 00:43:14,599
dollars for first place, which is an absolutely acid nine

840
00:43:14,639 --> 00:43:17,119
first place prize. I'm sorry, why the hell is it

841
00:43:17,199 --> 00:43:20,000
not even? They made every place even and then just

842
00:43:20,039 --> 00:43:23,079
slapped all the extra money on the top spot. Come on,

843
00:43:23,159 --> 00:43:27,280
Matt Savage, come on, this is ridiculous, Like just make

844
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,280
it three point one or three or three point two

845
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,440
or whatever, three point one five?

846
00:43:33,159 --> 00:43:33,559
Speaker 3: Not this?

847
00:43:34,199 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, why does every other spot clean? And this one

848
00:43:36,519 --> 00:43:39,480
is a disaster? Anyway, you guys know that's my gripe.

849
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,119
That's always my gripe with these things.

850
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 3: Anyway.

851
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 1: After the deal, Scott Stewart goes on to win two million,

852
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,840
five hundred and sixty three thousand dollars for him, Rob

853
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,079
Sherwood got two point two million, and the Edward Park

854
00:43:50,639 --> 00:43:54,679
got two million. The original payouts were first place three

855
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,320
point one three eight, second place two million and seventy

856
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:01,280
five thousand, third place one point five five million, so

857
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,239
really really good scores for all three of these players.

858
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:08,159
The final table was once again a super fun one.

859
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,639
Last year was a lot of fun. You had a

860
00:44:10,639 --> 00:44:13,360
lot of really cool hands, a lot of really big names,

861
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,400
some really high level poker. This year maybe not the

862
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,719
star power that you got last year, other than Chris

863
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,159
Mormon returning, which we'll hit on in a second. But

864
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,079
in the first like what two or three orbits, there

865
00:44:24,199 --> 00:44:26,480
was I think three eliminations. It was like boom, boom boom,

866
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,119
like here we go. Then there was like an extended

867
00:44:29,159 --> 00:44:32,440
period of time without much happening in terms of eliminations,

868
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,599
but there were still some big pots. Then we get

869
00:44:34,599 --> 00:44:37,239
to heads up play. It looks like Scott Stewart's gonna

870
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:41,159
close things out really quickly against Sherwood, but Sherwood spikes

871
00:44:41,159 --> 00:44:43,760
an ace with ah Jack against Queen's storms all the

872
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,880
way back. Then it's Stuart that's short and then he

873
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:47,960
comes all the way back and it's just this whole thing.

874
00:44:48,199 --> 00:44:51,480
The whole time, Stuart's drinking, having an FN blast. He's

875
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,639
got this Bud Wiser hat that just I think said

876
00:44:54,679 --> 00:44:57,760
Bud King of Beers on it that looked nineteen seventy

877
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,320
four and was he wore every single day since then.

878
00:45:01,119 --> 00:45:03,920
Just absolutely dirty as all hell. It was great. He

879
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,719
was chugging beers, he was having fun with his rail.

880
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,159
His rail was out of control, which is great. He's

881
00:45:09,199 --> 00:45:12,400
one of the most fun players to play with. He's

882
00:45:13,039 --> 00:45:16,760
just loves life, loves playing poker like he's entertaining at

883
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,719
the table. He plays super fast, like you know, it's

884
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,239
just great, and I think a lot of that was

885
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,400
on display at this final table. He's also really good

886
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,119
at poker as well, which is, you know, of course,

887
00:45:27,159 --> 00:45:32,760
a great thing. His rail was out of control, rambunctious,

888
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:37,639
drinking all night, having a blast. They were chanting Stu

889
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:40,800
sa Usa, but you know they put.

890
00:45:40,639 --> 00:45:41,599
Speaker 3: Stu's pretty good.

891
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,519
Speaker 1: I watched a bit of the final table, had to

892
00:45:44,559 --> 00:45:46,119
cut it off early because it was going way too

893
00:45:46,199 --> 00:45:49,599
damn late, and then watch the watch what I missed

894
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,480
this morning. What are your thoughts on the event, mister Stewart,

895
00:45:52,599 --> 00:45:56,000
I don't know, give me whatever, I mean twenty come on.

896
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess. Let's talk about the guarantee. I think

897
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,480
they know kind of what this is going to be.

898
00:46:01,519 --> 00:46:04,679
No guarantee, sure, that's what I'm meant to say, yes,

899
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,800
the lack of guarantee twenty three million in the prize pool.

900
00:46:09,079 --> 00:46:12,360
That seems to be about where this event will be

901
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,400
going forward if everything remains, you know, in a standing.

902
00:46:16,039 --> 00:46:17,960
I don't think they need to put a guarantee next year.

903
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,559
They'll just know that then hey, we're probably going to

904
00:46:20,599 --> 00:46:23,320
get around twenty to twenty five million in the prize

905
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:27,119
pool pending other things, and I think that's fine. I

906
00:46:27,119 --> 00:46:30,320
don't think anyone. I didn't see too many people griping

907
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:34,599
about the no guarantee. Obviously, they added the five million

908
00:46:34,599 --> 00:46:38,920
dollar Club Invitational free roll, so that did help soothe

909
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:39,960
some people's complaints.

910
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 3: But no, it was a great event.

911
00:46:43,199 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 2: It was a lot of Yeah, I watched a lot

912
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,079
of this and I didn't watch that much of the

913
00:46:47,079 --> 00:46:49,880
final table, but it was good to just watch some

914
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:52,280
quality poker for the last week.

915
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: It's going to be very interesting to see what happens

916
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,079
with this event next year. You know. This year, I

917
00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:04,159
think a couple things were working very much in their

918
00:47:04,199 --> 00:47:07,400
favor that helped push them to a really, really good

919
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:11,320
number of twenty four hundred entries. One is drawing off

920
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,440
of last year and really the last two years of

921
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:19,199
this event, where this event has become essentially it can't

922
00:47:19,199 --> 00:47:22,519
miss event. Right. The win is an incredible place to

923
00:47:22,519 --> 00:47:26,840
play poker. They do things great, the property is freaking awesome, right.

924
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,239
It's my favorite place to play. I love it there.

925
00:47:29,599 --> 00:47:32,719
The staff does things right, the fields are generally good,

926
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,440
all that sort of stuff. You combine that with the

927
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:39,239
World Poker Tour, which is known for like having this

928
00:47:39,599 --> 00:47:44,119
awesome brand, doing things right, really like dressing things up nicely,

929
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,519
all that sort of stuff. Right, So you build up

930
00:47:47,519 --> 00:47:50,039
this event, and even though you missed the guarantee last

931
00:47:50,079 --> 00:47:52,199
year by a couple million, and even though you didn't

932
00:47:52,199 --> 00:47:54,400
have a guarantee this year, I think there was still

933
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,480
that hangover from last year in a good way, right,

934
00:47:57,559 --> 00:47:59,599
So I think people were still very much looking forward

935
00:47:59,679 --> 00:48:04,039
to to this year. Now. Will that hangover carry over

936
00:48:04,159 --> 00:48:06,760
into the next year, That's just my question. I don't know.

937
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,280
I would like to think yes, because, like I said earlier,

938
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,960
I think there was enough loyalty that was shown by

939
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,920
having nearly twenty four hundred entries without a forty million

940
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,400
dollar guarantee or any sort of crazy guarantee on it

941
00:48:20,519 --> 00:48:22,639
that I think there is enough there that it's going

942
00:48:22,679 --> 00:48:24,800
to do all right. The second thing that I think

943
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,159
helped play it in the to their success last year

944
00:48:27,159 --> 00:48:29,559
that I don't know that they're going to have next

945
00:48:29,639 --> 00:48:32,519
year or how they'll have it next year or whatnot,

946
00:48:32,599 --> 00:48:34,679
is they had you referenced it already, the five million

947
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:38,559
dollar Club WPT gold free role that then awarded one

948
00:48:38,639 --> 00:48:42,079
hundred seats into this event. So you had that which

949
00:48:42,119 --> 00:48:44,880
people now, I know it's only one hundred out of

950
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,760
twenty four hundred, but a lot of people in that

951
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,159
free roles as WPT itself, you know, or Club WPT

952
00:48:51,199 --> 00:48:52,840
I should say, put out there on social media, like

953
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:54,800
had never played a buy in above five hundred dollars.

954
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,920
So a lot of those people you knew could be

955
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,800
winning into this event had like never played big poker

956
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,079
turn that certainly never entered a ten k before. So

957
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,360
if you're on the outside looking in, you're like, oh,

958
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,039
there's gonna be a decent amount of value there with

959
00:49:06,079 --> 00:49:08,719
those people getting in. You probably also have to consider

960
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,719
that there were some people that won money in that

961
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,960
event that might have then parlayed it into the ten k,

962
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,280
or maybe they parlayed it into playing one of those

963
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,119
eleven hundred dollars satellites that were given out of a

964
00:49:19,119 --> 00:49:20,480
lot of seats, and they want a seat and they

965
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,599
got in that way. So what I'm getting at is,

966
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,159
are they going to do something similar in terms of

967
00:49:26,199 --> 00:49:29,519
the five million dollar guarantee, sorry, the five million dollar

968
00:49:29,519 --> 00:49:33,559
free roll next year that then drives people into this event.

969
00:49:34,159 --> 00:49:36,320
I don't know. That's that's still yet to be seen, so,

970
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,679
you know, but that that did seem like it was

971
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:43,760
like this initial marketing effort for Club WPT gold. And

972
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,159
because in a year's time, you're not going to need

973
00:49:46,159 --> 00:49:49,880
that initial thing, so do you have that again? And

974
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,079
if you don't have that again, like, does it just

975
00:49:52,119 --> 00:49:53,800
cause numbers to kind of take a little bit of

976
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:55,960
a dip. Now I'm not saying that this is going

977
00:49:56,039 --> 00:49:57,960
to go from twenty four hundred down to one thousand.

978
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,239
I don't think that that's ever gonna happen. But you know,

979
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,159
like I said, it could go twenty four hundred to

980
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,480
twenty one hundred and then it just goes to eighteen hundred.

981
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,159
Then you know, it just like a small trickle in

982
00:50:06,199 --> 00:50:08,079
the wrong direction, and you just don't want to see

983
00:50:08,079 --> 00:50:09,480
that over time. You want to just see it at

984
00:50:09,559 --> 00:50:12,440
least in the worst thing just kind of plateau. You know,

985
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:14,320
maybe it goes up a little bit each year, down

986
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,079
a little bit, but it's just generally around this number forever,

987
00:50:17,159 --> 00:50:19,119
like that's ultimately what you want to see. So that's

988
00:50:19,159 --> 00:50:21,760
just kind of like right now where I sit, like

989
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:25,920
my questions for next year already. I didn't play it.

990
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,440
I sat on the sidelines. You did play it because

991
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,599
one of those one hundred that pulled a seat. There

992
00:50:32,639 --> 00:50:35,639
you go, buddy. I didn't play it because I was

993
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,400
I didn't know if the value would be there.

994
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 3: I'm not I was in the field. Of course the

995
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:41,920
value was there.

996
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're one of twenty four hundred. I mean, listen,

997
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,400
most people I talked to, I felt like their tables

998
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:54,440
were fairly difficult for the most part. Like, you know,

999
00:50:55,559 --> 00:50:58,039
so I don't know. So I'm not like, I'm not

1000
00:50:58,079 --> 00:50:59,519
bummed out at all that I missed it or it

1001
00:50:59,559 --> 00:51:02,039
didn't play right. I did play a satellite for it.

1002
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:04,639
I thought that I played the eleven hund dollar satellite

1003
00:51:04,639 --> 00:51:06,760
was seventy five seats guaranteed that I think gave away

1004
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:08,039
like one hundred and twenty five or a hundred and

1005
00:51:08,079 --> 00:51:10,320
thirty seats guaranteed. That thing was an absolute shit show.

1006
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,360
It was just so many people in that tournament. It

1007
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,880
was a little wild. So I don't know, I don't

1008
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:16,440
I don't know what's going to happen. Maybe you also

1009
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,440
get in now, I guess going the other way to someone,

1010
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,280
my concerns that I just laid out would be like,

1011
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,320
do you get people that maybe said, mmm, I did

1012
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,920
the Bahama thing. I don't know, or maybe Bahamas doesn't

1013
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,639
run it back with the value that maybe they had

1014
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,199
this year. Maybe they don't do a fifty million dollar guarantee,

1015
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,000
maybe they don't pump all these people into it. I

1016
00:51:34,079 --> 00:51:36,159
don't know. But then maybe some of those people just say,

1017
00:51:36,159 --> 00:51:37,920
you know what, I'm going to stay in Las Vegas,

1018
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,639
and that may maybe that makes the numbers uptick, you know.

1019
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 2: So there's just like almost to go the other way

1020
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,159
where people that have done win a couple of times

1021
00:51:45,199 --> 00:51:46,519
now they're like, you know what, I'm going to go

1022
00:51:46,559 --> 00:51:49,400
to Bahamas next yea, So it can go both ways.

1023
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,159
Speaker 1: I don't think you're ever going to get those people.

1024
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:54,480
And the reason why I say that is because win

1025
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:56,400
is so much better than the Bahamas.

1026
00:51:56,639 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Yeah, but happen if you have a family,

1027
00:51:58,679 --> 00:52:00,239
you want to go to the beach for a couple

1028
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:00,840
of weeks.

1029
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,039
Speaker 1: No, the win is always gonna win.

1030
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 3: It should, yes, but we don't have some of these

1031
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:06,440
people think.

1032
00:52:07,039 --> 00:52:09,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think the I think like WSP

1033
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:11,480
Paradise is gonna win for the people that want to play,

1034
00:52:11,519 --> 00:52:13,920
like fifty k's, one hundred k's, you know, two hundred

1035
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:15,559
and fifty k's like all that sort of crazy high

1036
00:52:15,559 --> 00:52:18,800
stuff like the Triton crowd essentially, right, But then I

1037
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:22,119
think for for most other people, like it's just gonna

1038
00:52:22,159 --> 00:52:23,440
be the win, and it's always going to be the win,

1039
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:27,079
and it's gonna be this WPT World Championship. So so yeah,

1040
00:52:27,119 --> 00:52:29,199
I mean there's just a lot to be I guess

1041
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:33,000
worked out or seen from what happens from this series

1042
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,960
going forward. But anyway, Scott Stewart winning it all his

1043
00:52:36,119 --> 00:52:41,559
first seven figure score. Back in twenty seventeen, he came

1044
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,840
thirteenth in the WSP main event for five hundred and

1045
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:50,440
thirty five thousand dollars. He has six WSP circuit rings,

1046
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:55,280
but this is of course his largest and career defining victory.

1047
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:59,000
Really great for Scott's great guy, you know, he's certainly

1048
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:02,280
one of the good guys in poker. Somebody that that

1049
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,800
is definitely like if he's playing on a stream or

1050
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,519
if he's playing on a table, like he's gonna he's

1051
00:53:07,519 --> 00:53:09,639
gonna make it fun. He's not gonna slow the game

1052
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:11,920
down like he's he's gonna go for it at spots.

1053
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:13,679
He pulled this bluff at this final table. I don't

1054
00:53:13,679 --> 00:53:14,880
know if you saw it, when the board had a

1055
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,599
full house on it and Sherwood I think led the

1056
00:53:17,679 --> 00:53:21,039
river and Scott raised all in with I think seven

1057
00:53:21,119 --> 00:53:23,199
high like it was. It was jack nine nine to

1058
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:27,840
nine jack and Sherwood had king high and Scott just

1059
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,440
went for it with a bluff on the river and

1060
00:53:30,639 --> 00:53:32,519
moved all in and got it done, which is, you know,

1061
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:34,760
takes a lot to go for it in that moment.

1062
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,679
Of course, of course, Scott had some big hands as well.

1063
00:53:37,679 --> 00:53:39,480
He had aces a couple of times at the final table.

1064
00:53:39,519 --> 00:53:42,639
He had aces against Christian Roberts's Ace Queen to take

1065
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,800
him out in sixth place. He had aces against Edward

1066
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:48,400
Park in a crazy hand where you know, Park maybe

1067
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,159
shouldn't have been in their pre flop, but he was. Nonetheless,

1068
00:53:51,159 --> 00:53:53,760
and uh, Scott Scott Stewart won a big pot there,

1069
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:58,039
so great performance by Scott Stewart, great winner for him,

1070
00:53:58,079 --> 00:54:01,239
two point five million dollars. Robert Sher again second place,

1071
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:04,159
two point two million. Edward Park third place, two million dollars.

1072
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,159
Chris Mormon said we were going to hit on him,

1073
00:54:06,199 --> 00:54:10,039
so let's hit on him. Last year Chris Mormon fourth

1074
00:54:10,079 --> 00:54:12,280
place for what was it? Last year? It was like

1075
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:15,000
two million and something thousand and two eight thousand, something

1076
00:54:15,079 --> 00:54:19,199
like that. This year fourth place again Chris Mormon one

1077
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:23,519
point one five million dollars. This year for Mormon, Ryan

1078
00:54:23,639 --> 00:54:25,800
you got fifth for eight hundred and seventy five K.

1079
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,440
I mentioned Christian Roberts being taken out by Stewart. He

1080
00:54:28,559 --> 00:54:32,199
bounced in sixth place for six hundred and sixty five

1081
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:36,840
thousand dollars. Some other notable finishes. You had Brian Yun

1082
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,440
finishing in eleventh place for two hundred and fifty five K.

1083
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,119
You had aj Kelsall had no idea he knew how

1084
00:54:42,119 --> 00:54:44,039
to play. No liamit hold him, but here he is

1085
00:54:44,639 --> 00:54:47,960
aj Kelsall of course out of mixed game fame. Two

1086
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:52,239
hundred and fifteen thousand dollars for him. Mikita bad Ziyakowski

1087
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,960
nineteenth for one hundred and seventy six K. He was

1088
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,360
in the Bahamas and then he came here to Vega.

1089
00:54:57,519 --> 00:54:59,519
Playing this event. Took nineteenth for one hundred and seventy

1090
00:54:59,519 --> 00:55:02,079
six Thousan Paul Volpi twenty eighth for one hundred and

1091
00:55:02,079 --> 00:55:05,239
twenty one thousand, Michael Rosito thirty ninth for one hundred

1092
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:10,239
and one thousand, Isaac Baron fiftieth and Neil Farrell fifty fifth.

1093
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,280
Both of them took home seventy one K. Naddia Magnus

1094
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:17,079
sixty third for fifty nine thousand dollars. Eric Nobody loves

1095
00:55:17,119 --> 00:55:21,280
it more Baldwin seventy first for fifty K, Ryan Tassik

1096
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,599
seventy fifth for fifty K. Martin Jacobson, former WSP Made

1097
00:55:24,599 --> 00:55:27,280
Event champion, He got eighty fifth for forty two K.

1098
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:31,320
Joey Ingram did not know he played the two card variant,

1099
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,880
but here he is ninety first place for forty two K.

1100
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:37,000
David ODB Baker one hundred and fourth for thirty five thousand,

1101
00:55:37,039 --> 00:55:40,440
five hundred dollars. You put it on the rundown. I

1102
00:55:40,559 --> 00:55:44,079
was just gonna ask where did you finish, sir? You

1103
00:55:44,119 --> 00:55:44,679
played in this.

1104
00:55:44,679 --> 00:55:47,280
Speaker 3: Event three hundred and ninetieth place.

1105
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: You're the only person in the universe who looks at

1106
00:55:51,519 --> 00:55:52,679
the place they busted out.

1107
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 2: And I got to put it in my app. You

1108
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,119
don't have a tracking app. You you have to have

1109
00:55:57,119 --> 00:55:58,920
the app way you busted. So I looked at the clock.

1110
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:01,679
Speaker 1: I don't have a tracking up. I used a Google sheet.

1111
00:56:02,679 --> 00:56:05,119
Speaker 2: It was the clock said three ninety two, and then

1112
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,960
I walked away, and then I said three eighty eight.

1113
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:11,760
Speaker 3: So I just middled it three nine. Ye done, got it.

1114
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,039
Probably it's probably even better than it's probably really like.

1115
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:21,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean good, good run by you. It

1116
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:23,239
was fun either your best shot.

1117
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,039
Speaker 3: Hey, look, I had someone.

1118
00:56:25,199 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 1: Since went two thousand and seven. When the last time

1119
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:29,880
you played a ten?

1120
00:56:30,079 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, two thousand and seven. I did.

1121
00:56:32,639 --> 00:56:35,679
Speaker 2: Someone did message me and say that said that I

1122
00:56:35,679 --> 00:56:40,079
think it's not up for debate but anymore. But I

1123
00:56:40,119 --> 00:56:43,400
am the best no limit holding player on the podcast.

1124
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,079
Speaker 1: I mean, says the guy who was texting me hand

1125
00:56:46,679 --> 00:56:48,880
questions the entire fucking tournament that he was playing.

1126
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,159
Speaker 3: Hey, results speak, That's what I'm going to say.

1127
00:56:52,119 --> 00:56:55,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, well cash there in the main, I was an

1128
00:56:55,159 --> 00:56:56,079
absolute idiot.

1129
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,639
Speaker 3: Look, we took a risk we took, had to bust

1130
00:57:00,639 --> 00:57:01,880
the guy in the work.

1131
00:57:02,039 --> 00:57:06,039
Speaker 1: I got it all right, Well, what are your overall

1132
00:57:06,079 --> 00:57:08,960
thoughts on this event, if you have any more of them?

1133
00:57:09,079 --> 00:57:10,519
Speaker 3: I think I played sensational.

1134
00:57:11,039 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 2: It was unfortunate enough to cash in all seriousness at

1135
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,360
the main event. I would say a lot of people

1136
00:57:17,599 --> 00:57:20,079
wouldn't have expected them to get the twenty four hundred

1137
00:57:20,079 --> 00:57:21,960
players they got the two three nine two.

1138
00:57:22,199 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 1: I did not. I am pleasantly surprised. I talked to

1139
00:57:26,039 --> 00:57:29,880
some people at the WPT. I think they're all very,

1140
00:57:30,039 --> 00:57:33,239
very very happy with the number, as they should be

1141
00:57:34,079 --> 00:57:34,920
and win two.

1142
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 2: So so yeah, they made some incredible They made a

1143
00:57:39,559 --> 00:57:43,679
very underrated decision that maybe not a lot of people

1144
00:57:44,079 --> 00:57:47,400
know about. That they kind of forced all those the

1145
00:57:47,639 --> 00:57:51,320
big satellite winners. Was the seventy five C guarantee you

1146
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:56,199
had to play one A. So that's always going to

1147
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:59,920
help with the final number. One A is always the smallest,

1148
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:02,800
but you know, you get the satellite players in there,

1149
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,280
maybe they have to re enter. You get some of

1150
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,320
the pros playing that day to try and take advantage

1151
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,480
of the satellite players. So I think that was a

1152
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:11,639
great decision by the win.

1153
00:58:12,079 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 1: Well, let me say that because of that you had

1154
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:17,719
you had one A had seven hundred and fifty one

1155
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,079
entries and one B at six eighty one, which you

1156
00:58:20,159 --> 00:58:22,400
like never see a divis though you always see it

1157
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,320
go up by the days. But that could also be

1158
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,280
the fact that they started it on a Saturday.

1159
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:29,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, this football Sunday Sunday, and.

1160
00:58:29,159 --> 00:58:31,199
Speaker 1: That My biggest gripe from this series is they need

1161
00:58:31,199 --> 00:58:33,719
to start the two marquee events on better days Prime

1162
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:34,400
and this.

1163
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 2: I agree with them, but I mean, they still got

1164
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:38,760
great numbers for both, but yeah, it could they could

1165
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:41,599
do what maybe they do five percent better, but five

1166
00:58:41,639 --> 00:58:43,920
percent in both events is huge.

1167
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 1: So my my biggest gripe with this series as a whole.

1168
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:53,920
But it also I think it happened maybe in this

1169
00:58:54,039 --> 00:58:56,199
WT World Championship, I can't remember. It definitely happened in

1170
00:58:56,239 --> 00:59:00,440
Prime for sure, is that the win now uses pokes.

1171
00:59:01,599 --> 00:59:05,400
Poker Atlas should have a better way for them to

1172
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,920
do alternates. Like when you go to a restaurant and

1173
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:10,639
you put your name on the wait list and they

1174
00:59:10,639 --> 00:59:12,360
say can we have your phone number and then they

1175
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,000
text you when your table is ready. That should be

1176
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:19,159
how this works. They text you when your alternate number

1177
00:59:19,159 --> 00:59:21,519
is ready, or they text you and they say we're

1178
00:59:21,559 --> 00:59:24,119
now accepting alternates four fifty through five to fifty. So

1179
00:59:24,199 --> 00:59:26,320
if you know that your ticket falls within that window,

1180
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:29,760
you go like none of this, like standing outside in

1181
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:31,760
the hallway with lines and whatever. And this is the

1182
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:35,000
same thing that I said about the NAPT Las Vegas event.

1183
00:59:35,599 --> 00:59:39,440
These places now need to start putting tournament clocks and

1184
00:59:39,599 --> 00:59:45,760
information screens in the hallways because they have them all

1185
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,760
throughout the tournament rooms. Yes, and that's great, but when

1186
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:52,079
you have so many people and such long alternates and

1187
00:59:52,199 --> 00:59:54,800
breaks and multiple events and all this sort of stuff,

1188
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,880
just put them in the hallways. People can see them

1189
00:59:57,880 --> 00:59:59,760
and look at them and say, oh, okay, my tournament's

1190
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,000
on bre for another three minutes, you know, all that

1191
01:00:02,039 --> 01:00:03,960
sort of stuff. So I think that that's like something

1192
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,199
that I want to see mostly across the board and poker.

1193
01:00:06,239 --> 01:00:09,159
But it did come come up at the WPT World Championship.

1194
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 2: I would probably say that this is probably the biggest

1195
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:15,679
event poker out list is done regarding alternates. Probably pretty

1196
01:00:15,679 --> 01:00:19,000
confident to say that. So it's probably something they haven't

1197
01:00:19,039 --> 01:00:21,440
thought of, and it's a good point. You should probably

1198
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,039
bring it up with poker out lists. Like I've brought

1199
01:00:23,119 --> 01:00:28,239
up some things before, if everyone's going to start adopting

1200
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:33,920
poker out lest as they preferred, you know, tournament management system, Yeah,

1201
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:37,239
there's definitely some tweaks that can be made to kind

1202
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:38,519
of better the whole product.

1203
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 1: And then I think I know your answer to this question,

1204
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,960
but would you deem this event a success despite the

1205
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:45,760
fact that they didn't have the big guarantee.

1206
01:00:46,639 --> 01:00:47,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent.

1207
01:00:48,239 --> 01:00:51,920
Speaker 2: With the pending question, as you know, was it a

1208
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,960
success only because of the free roll? I'm not sure

1209
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:56,880
if that is. You know, obviously the free roll put

1210
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:01,079
in one hundred players. Maybe when it's all said and done,

1211
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:05,079
two hundred players played due to the free roll in

1212
01:01:05,119 --> 01:01:08,599
some in some way. But it does show that, like

1213
01:01:09,079 --> 01:01:12,840
we keep touching on WPT brand, it's strong, win Poker

1214
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:17,119
brand is strong, Vegas is strong, and if you don't

1215
01:01:17,159 --> 01:01:20,239
have the free roll on XCA, I would still probably

1216
01:01:20,239 --> 01:01:23,400
bet that, Hey, we're probably gonna get close to twenty two,

1217
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:27,039
twenty three, twenty four hundred players again, so yeah, definitely

1218
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:30,280
definitely success even without the guarantee.

1219
01:01:30,679 --> 01:01:34,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with you. I will say that, Listen,

1220
01:01:34,199 --> 01:01:37,400
I played a lot during the series. I was there

1221
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:41,559
at the win probably every other day, you know, if

1222
01:01:41,599 --> 01:01:46,159
not more than that. I'm happy that eventually the buzz

1223
01:01:46,639 --> 01:01:50,840
turned to the WPT World Championship, because I felt early on,

1224
01:01:51,559 --> 01:01:53,400
for like the first week, week and a half or

1225
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:56,599
so of this series, that the buzz was only about

1226
01:01:56,639 --> 01:01:59,519
the free roll yeah, because there was no buzz about

1227
01:01:59,559 --> 01:02:02,360
the World Tchampionship, whereas last year and the year before,

1228
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:05,480
I felt the buzz was about the World Championship and

1229
01:02:05,519 --> 01:02:07,880
like really only the World Championship the first year, of course,

1230
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,119
because it was this fifteen million dollar guarantee, like, oh

1231
01:02:10,119 --> 01:02:11,840
my god, this is going to be massive, blah blah

1232
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,639
blah whatever. Next year it's like, holy shit, forty million

1233
01:02:14,679 --> 01:02:17,599
dollar guarantee, Like this is insane whatever like that, that

1234
01:02:17,679 --> 01:02:20,760
was all the buzz this year. Like the only thing

1235
01:02:20,800 --> 01:02:22,400
I think that mattered was people were like, how do

1236
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:23,920
I get a free roll ticket? How do I get

1237
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,119
a golden passport? Like how do I get that? Up

1238
01:02:26,199 --> 01:02:29,920
until like that eleven hundred dollars seventy five set guarantee

1239
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:32,440
satellite that I played in, which was like a day

1240
01:02:32,519 --> 01:02:35,760
or two before the start of the ten K, Like

1241
01:02:36,039 --> 01:02:39,960
it was all about the free roll that's at like

1242
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,800
that's all that it was about. And I was in

1243
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:45,719
my head, I'm like that kind of seems like it's

1244
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:48,960
taking away what the point of this is, Like it's

1245
01:02:49,119 --> 01:02:52,320
the point of it is the World Championship, like in

1246
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:55,679
my in my opinion right like and not that the

1247
01:02:55,679 --> 01:02:58,280
there's not obviously a lot of importance to the free

1248
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:02,199
roll because that is a marketing for Club VPT Gold. Yes,

1249
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:06,519
but like I felt like there was no real talk

1250
01:03:06,559 --> 01:03:10,119
about like the ten k itself, whereas in years past

1251
01:03:10,159 --> 01:03:11,400
it was like how do I get into the ten k?

1252
01:03:11,440 --> 01:03:12,800
How do I get into the ten k? How like

1253
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:13,960
how do I get in there? Like what do I

1254
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:15,960
gotta do? I gotta sell action, maybe I hit a score,

1255
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:17,679
maybe I play one of these satellites, all that sort

1256
01:03:17,719 --> 01:03:20,320
of stuff, whereas this year was only about the free

1257
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,119
roll really, like that's all people. People wanted a free

1258
01:03:23,199 --> 01:03:27,119
roll ticket so so so bad, you know, So I

1259
01:03:27,159 --> 01:03:31,159
just thought that that was interesting. So then I guess again,

1260
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:33,480
like kind of you know, to what we've been talking about,

1261
01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:36,280
how does that buzz look next year if they don't

1262
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:39,800
have the free roll, I would say that the buzz

1263
01:03:40,119 --> 01:03:43,679
is probably going to be about prime I heard that

1264
01:03:43,679 --> 01:03:45,719
there's a chance they take the prime guarantee up to

1265
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:50,679
ten million, which is interesting. I personally think they should

1266
01:03:50,679 --> 01:03:52,079
have taken it up to ten million this year or

1267
01:03:52,119 --> 01:03:55,199
the year before, but hey, whatever, that would be wild.

1268
01:03:56,039 --> 01:03:59,079
But then if that does happen, and if you don't

1269
01:03:59,119 --> 01:04:01,639
have a guarantee on the main event, are you just

1270
01:04:01,719 --> 01:04:04,519
kind of putting all the shine on the Prime? Which

1271
01:04:04,559 --> 01:04:07,800
is fine? I mean, this Prime is a freaking incredible term.

1272
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:09,920
I mean, it's just it's one of the best tournaments

1273
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:13,119
of the year, like by far, top top two or three.

1274
01:04:14,039 --> 01:04:16,440
Speaker 2: We always talk about it. You just need to get

1275
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:18,960
people in the building. When you get them here for Prime,

1276
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:22,239
you get them here for the free roll, you know

1277
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:24,000
there's a chance they'll play the main event. So I

1278
01:04:24,039 --> 01:04:27,320
understand they were hyping more the free roll first than

1279
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:31,159
the Prime and going from there. I don't even think

1280
01:04:31,199 --> 01:04:34,159
that's the biggest question for next year. What's the biggest

1281
01:04:34,199 --> 01:04:39,360
question for next year? Will the WBT World Championship even

1282
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:43,719
be at the win? What number three year contract?

1283
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:45,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think it's already locked in.

1284
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:47,239
Speaker 3: Okay, why didn't they announce it?

1285
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:50,119
Speaker 1: I mean, I honestly I thought the same thing. But

1286
01:04:50,559 --> 01:04:52,599
for the people that I talked to, it's fine.

1287
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:55,239
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that's the first that's the big question,

1288
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:57,519
you know, like will it be at the win? Will

1289
01:04:57,559 --> 01:04:59,320
it go up to a different time, like it could

1290
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:00,519
be at the win in the summer.

1291
01:05:00,719 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 1: There's probably twelve people in the world that know that

1292
01:05:04,039 --> 01:05:07,400
they announced a three year partnership. You and I are

1293
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:10,639
two twelve, Okay, like no one pays attention to Actually, yeah,

1294
01:05:11,599 --> 01:05:12,400
so it's whatever.

1295
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:15,639
Speaker 2: But I and the thousands of listeners we have come.

1296
01:05:15,519 --> 01:05:18,079
Speaker 1: On doing the rundown for this podcast. I did think

1297
01:05:18,079 --> 01:05:20,599
about that. Yeah, I was like, did they announce it

1298
01:05:20,639 --> 01:05:22,920
for next year? But you know, I mean, but this

1299
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:28,599
has been so like it's been so good, good between

1300
01:05:28,599 --> 01:05:28,960
these two.

1301
01:05:29,119 --> 01:05:33,239
Speaker 2: But here's the thing, right we talk about we talk

1302
01:05:33,280 --> 01:05:38,559
about paradise stepping on you know, wt's toes like taking

1303
01:05:38,599 --> 01:05:42,920
that time slot. Now, if I'm assuming the three year

1304
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,920
contract was for like an event held in December at

1305
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:49,199
the Win, let's say they redo it. Let's say they

1306
01:05:49,199 --> 01:05:52,320
resigned the contract, they extend it. Maybe they think, hey,

1307
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:56,199
why don't we move our event. Gg's doing what they

1308
01:05:56,239 --> 01:05:59,599
want to do. Maybe we want to take January.

1309
01:06:00,199 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 3: You not, I'll play.

1310
01:06:01,199 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 1: The problem with that. The problem with that is the

1311
01:06:03,519 --> 01:06:07,960
WPT has now shifted their seasons to yearly season. That's

1312
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:12,760
the problem here. WSP Paradise, WSP in general doesn't have seasons. Yeah,

1313
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:16,400
it doesn't matter. They can have their event in January, February, March, April,

1314
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:19,039
like it does. December does doesn't matter. It does not

1315
01:06:19,119 --> 01:06:21,679
matter for the DOUVASP. For WPT, it matters a bit

1316
01:06:21,719 --> 01:06:23,719
more because they've now shifted to.

1317
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:25,199
Speaker 3: Uh having this.

1318
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 2: So I'm just saying, like, you know, if it's a

1319
01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,800
new contract, or you know the contract is getting amended,

1320
01:06:31,239 --> 01:06:32,519
you could see date changes.

1321
01:06:33,519 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 1: No, I think they're going to stick to the same days.

1322
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:37,519
Speaker 3: I would guess that. I would bet that too.

1323
01:06:37,599 --> 01:06:40,639
Speaker 2: I'm just saying now, it's like, until we hear confirmation

1324
01:06:40,719 --> 01:06:43,159
of what's happening for next season, you got to consider

1325
01:06:43,199 --> 01:06:45,280
all the options. Could be at the win different time,

1326
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:48,800
could be at a different location, you know, we never know.

1327
01:06:49,639 --> 01:06:50,960
I'm not sure where that location BA.

1328
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 3: I'm just saying different locations.

1329
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 2: Stop Texas Champions Club, It's not happening.

1330
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:02,679
Speaker 1: Other event winners from the WPT World Championship, you had

1331
01:07:02,719 --> 01:07:07,199
Sergio Barrios winning the eight hundred dollars one million dollar guaranteed.

1332
01:07:08,199 --> 01:07:11,880
I guess opening event for three hundred and eighteen thousand dollars.

1333
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,280
This event had a one million dollar guarantee. It came

1334
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:16,119
in at over two million dollars in the prize pool

1335
01:07:16,199 --> 01:07:20,440
three thousand and six entries. Zachary Van Curen won the

1336
01:07:20,599 --> 01:07:24,760
WPT Prime Championship nine thousand, six hundred and seventy entries,

1337
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:26,519
down a little bit from last year when they had

1338
01:07:26,519 --> 01:07:31,679
over ten thousand. Van Kurin won one point one six

1339
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:35,760
two million dollars. I believe he's known as Lucid poker

1340
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:40,239
on social media. He's absolutely jacked him. I mean, if

1341
01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:43,360
you you're trying to I mean yeah, if you're trying

1342
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:44,960
to be like Zach, I mean you got a long

1343
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,320
way to go, man. This guy would squash you your

1344
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:51,199
head like a peanut. Bradley Miller wins the three thousand

1345
01:07:51,239 --> 01:07:54,119
dollars PLO four one hundred and seventeen thousand dollars, one

1346
01:07:54,159 --> 01:07:57,599
hundred and seventy five inches there. Joe McKeon, we all

1347
01:07:57,639 --> 01:08:00,480
know that name. Three thousand dollars. Nolan hold him sixx

1348
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,519
two hundred and eleven entries he wanted for one hundred

1349
01:08:02,559 --> 01:08:05,400
and twenty one one thousand dollars. All right, now the

1350
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:10,039
free roll. Chase Bricker won it all the Club WPT

1351
01:08:10,119 --> 01:08:14,519
goal five million dollar Invitational free roll for one million dollars.

1352
01:08:14,639 --> 01:08:17,000
Great name, by the way, Bricker, it's a great name.

1353
01:08:18,159 --> 01:08:20,720
Now this is the interesting part, and we're gonna let's

1354
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:24,479
spend a little time on this event. So on four

1355
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:28,039
hundred and seventy five entries, why is that interesting? Because

1356
01:08:29,119 --> 01:08:33,680
there was give or take two thousand golden passports, So

1357
01:08:34,359 --> 01:08:40,159
more than five hundred people didn't show up. Very interesting. Now,

1358
01:08:41,079 --> 01:08:44,760
you and I have done giveaways before. It's sometimes hard,

1359
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:48,199
probably to the surprise of many people out there, to

1360
01:08:48,239 --> 01:08:51,239
give stuff away. People turn it down, they don't respond,

1361
01:08:51,279 --> 01:08:54,680
they don't check emails like whatever it may be. It's

1362
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:58,960
often difficult. So more than five hundred people, by my math,

1363
01:08:59,119 --> 01:09:02,399
did not show well to play what the heck man?

1364
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:08,079
Speaker 2: Well, some of them were in paradise. That that hurts.

1365
01:09:09,079 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 1: Wait were they really? Were they really?

1366
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 2: Yeah? Because they awarded a bunch of passports in Seminal

1367
01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:17,039
and a lot of the majority of the Seminal players

1368
01:09:17,039 --> 01:09:21,600
were also using Seminal as a pre spot for the Bahamas.

1369
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:24,520
So David Coleman was one of them. Obviously wasn't in

1370
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:26,880
town for the free roll eventually came back, so they

1371
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:31,319
probably last, Yeah, because they were giving them to like

1372
01:09:31,479 --> 01:09:34,079
people that like the top three in certain events.

1373
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:36,680
Speaker 1: At sem he won a free roll seat and was

1374
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:38,119
stayed in the Bahamas instead.

1375
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:40,640
Speaker 3: Now he went from Seminel to Bahamas.

1376
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 1: They ended up what I'm saying, did he do that

1377
01:09:43,119 --> 01:09:49,840
having a seat into the free roll? Yeah, I mean, okay, okay.

1378
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:50,119
Speaker 3: We look.

1379
01:09:50,159 --> 01:09:52,680
Speaker 2: The thing about free rolls is that you can say

1380
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:54,680
the seat's worth twenty five hundred dollars, but it's not.

1381
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:58,880
It's not realized equity, just perceived equity. So twenty five

1382
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:02,000
hundred dollars that David, when he has the same kind

1383
01:10:02,039 --> 01:10:05,800
of potential more equity in the Bahamas with the what

1384
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:08,119
was going to be but maybe a big overlay in

1385
01:10:08,159 --> 01:10:09,800
the twenty five k, that's.

1386
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:11,479
Speaker 3: How he goes think. I'm just saying, I think like

1387
01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:13,800
that's how they think. Yeah, And then.

1388
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:16,720
Speaker 2: Obviously you lost a lot of seats just people were,

1389
01:10:18,119 --> 01:10:23,119
you know, ineligible to play. So the fact that they

1390
01:10:23,159 --> 01:10:26,680
didn't feel the missing seats on the day by just

1391
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:28,439
giving him to anyone was kind of a shame. I

1392
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:30,079
feel like they should have tried to get two thousand

1393
01:10:30,079 --> 01:10:32,840
players in there. I know that's obviously reducing my ev

1394
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:35,399
a little bit because I was in, but I think

1395
01:10:35,399 --> 01:10:36,760
that would have been the best thing to at least

1396
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:38,640
attempt to do, is trying to get that to two

1397
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:39,399
thousand players.

1398
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:40,640
Speaker 3: No, you don't like that.

1399
01:10:41,199 --> 01:10:44,279
Speaker 1: So you and I talked about earlier how we thought

1400
01:10:44,279 --> 01:10:46,079
it was kind of silly that, you know, the dovasit

1401
01:10:46,239 --> 01:10:50,159
extended registration, they changed the dealer's choice thing. What I

1402
01:10:50,199 --> 01:10:52,520
thought was silly as it relates to the club WPT

1403
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:56,640
Gold free role was putting people like Tony Donsk, Vince

1404
01:10:56,720 --> 01:11:00,159
Van Patten, phil Ivy into this free role. I mean,

1405
01:11:00,159 --> 01:11:03,840
that's not if it was. My new working take is

1406
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,520
that the free roll should have been open to anyone

1407
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:12,720
who has never cashed in a WPT event ever, and

1408
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:15,800
that can include WPT Prime Alpha eight. Whatever the heck

1409
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,279
you want to do now you can't. I was originally

1410
01:11:18,279 --> 01:11:21,239
gonna say, like, you have never played, but I doubt

1411
01:11:21,279 --> 01:11:23,880
you have all those records on file. You can definitely

1412
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:27,039
look up cashed for sure. That's what I would have

1413
01:11:27,079 --> 01:11:29,479
done now that I think about it, But hindsight is

1414
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:31,520
twenty twenty, so It's obviously very easy for me to

1415
01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:35,359
say that being results oriented, and those people, the people

1416
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:37,560
like you know, Nick Palmer that were out there like

1417
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:39,800
complaining on social media like this is what we pay

1418
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:42,680
Rake for, Like no, stupid, this is the most ridiculous

1419
01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:43,880
thing I've ever heard from anyone.

1420
01:11:44,199 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 3: Yep.

1421
01:11:45,199 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 2: I mean we a lot of these influences that were playing.

1422
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:50,600
We understood why they were in because you know, they

1423
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:53,239
were going to give away five ten seats as a

1424
01:11:53,279 --> 01:11:54,119
trade off, they get one.

1425
01:11:54,159 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 3: I'm fine with that.

1426
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 2: I'm honestly fine with Ivy Tiny all the WPT talent.

1427
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 3: I don't have a problem with that. I'm the opposite

1428
01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:03,840
to you. I do like your idea of I do

1429
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,239
like your idea that of the cash.

1430
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:08,680
Speaker 1: Now, this hasn't come to play phil Ivey. You know

1431
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:10,319
what they you know, you know when you come to

1432
01:12:10,319 --> 01:12:13,000
play phil Ivey. When when December seventeenth they had the

1433
01:12:13,039 --> 01:12:15,800
meetup game in the Win Poker room, that's come to

1434
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:18,239
play with phil Ivey. This has not come to play with.

1435
01:12:18,359 --> 01:12:20,800
This has come to play the biggest poker free role

1436
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:22,920
ever and try and win a million dollars. That's what

1437
01:12:23,039 --> 01:12:23,399
this is.

1438
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,359
Speaker 2: I would have I have more, I have less gripes

1439
01:12:27,399 --> 01:12:29,560
about the players, more graps about the prize pool.

1440
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 1: Listen, you you cashed in the event, sir, so let

1441
01:12:35,079 --> 01:12:38,439
let us know what are your gripes, mister Allan Casseler,

1442
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:39,520
what are your gripes?

1443
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:46,239
Speaker 2: I I mean, there was so much money in the bounties,

1444
01:12:47,159 --> 01:12:49,520
and I feel like they could have been better utilized

1445
01:12:50,319 --> 01:12:54,319
in the in the payouts for those spots from you know,

1446
01:12:54,439 --> 01:12:59,079
five hundred to to the final ten. Now, I am

1447
01:12:59,119 --> 01:13:01,680
not opposed to what they did. I completely understand everything

1448
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:04,279
they did for this free roll, the whole mister bounties,

1449
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:07,079
the million dollar fust the one hundred extra seats.

1450
01:13:07,119 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 3: I loved it all.

1451
01:13:08,159 --> 01:13:10,520
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, if I was to have a gripe,

1452
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:13,800
it would be about removing some of those big bounties

1453
01:13:14,119 --> 01:13:17,680
and making it more of a normal payout system where

1454
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:20,720
there's more money getting one from the players of cash.

1455
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:23,640
Speaker 3: That's all. But like, I get what they're.

1456
01:13:23,479 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 2: Doing, and I you know, I'm not going to go

1457
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:29,039
on Twitter and voice my concerns about missing missing levels

1458
01:13:29,039 --> 01:13:31,880
and stuff, because I had a ball as fun as

1459
01:13:32,079 --> 01:13:32,640
soon as hell.

1460
01:13:33,079 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 1: Speaking of those bounties, I guess we should hear on

1461
01:13:35,039 --> 01:13:39,159
the fact that they pulled the biggest troll job I

1462
01:13:39,199 --> 01:13:44,079
have ever seen him. So when so they had I

1463
01:13:44,119 --> 01:13:45,880
believe they had a bunch of bounties reserved for the

1464
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:46,439
final table.

1465
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:48,600
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, there was a final table. Now.

1466
01:13:49,119 --> 01:13:51,000
Speaker 1: And when you knock someone out, they come up there

1467
01:13:51,039 --> 01:13:53,319
with a case, the gold case. They open it up.

1468
01:13:53,319 --> 01:13:57,479
You take the envelop about you. You draw, right, Jason Christopher,

1469
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:01,399
who I believe ended up finishing run up, He finished

1470
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:02,960
run out for two and fifty K. But anyway he

1471
01:14:03,079 --> 01:14:07,600
knocks someone out, he gets a bounty pull. Now, if

1472
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:11,359
anyone's seen these mystery Bonnie envelopes, you know these days

1473
01:14:11,359 --> 01:14:13,479
in poker, they're in an envelope and they tend to

1474
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:15,760
like you pull them out where you start seeing zeros

1475
01:14:16,199 --> 01:14:18,039
on the back half. So like if you get like

1476
01:14:18,079 --> 01:14:20,720
three zeros in a comma, you're like, okay, I'm guaranteed

1477
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:22,560
a thousand or more dollars or whatever, and I have

1478
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:24,920
a chance to oftentimes what is like, you know, twenty

1479
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:26,880
five to fifty one hundred thousand dollars, Like I have

1480
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:30,680
a chance at that. The WPT did zero zero zero

1481
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:36,439
comma zero zero. Like, so now Christopher's thinking he won

1482
01:14:36,520 --> 01:14:38,720
what was the biggest bounty one hundred thousand, right, Yeah,

1483
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:41,039
he's thinking he won the biggest one. Nope, the last

1484
01:14:41,119 --> 01:14:45,000
number was a zero. I mean that is whoever thought

1485
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:47,319
of that as an ef ingenius? Okay, I mean, like,

1486
01:14:47,359 --> 01:14:48,800
this is the ultimate troll job.

1487
01:14:49,359 --> 01:14:52,720
Speaker 2: I've already stolen the idea for something else. It might

1488
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:55,760
not get put into play, but I loved it. I

1489
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:56,800
absolutely loved it.

1490
01:14:57,319 --> 01:15:00,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I I think a lot out of

1491
01:15:00,279 --> 01:15:01,279
their social.

1492
01:15:01,079 --> 01:15:02,199
Speaker 3: Only because it's a free roll.

1493
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean only because it's a free roll, that's all.

1494
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:07,439
If it was a real buying tournament, I'm against it.

1495
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:09,399
But because it's a free roll, I.

1496
01:15:09,319 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 1: Mean it was more for it. It was pretty wild.

1497
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,479
But anyway, Yeah, Chase Bricker wins this this free role.

1498
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:18,760
How did you think the like, how did you think

1499
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:19,399
the play was?

1500
01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:19,520
Speaker 3: Like?

1501
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:20,880
Speaker 1: How was it for you?

1502
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:21,039
Speaker 3: Like?

1503
01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:23,800
Speaker 1: Are there a lot of people in your like your

1504
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:25,920
starting table or at your tables in general who like,

1505
01:15:26,239 --> 01:15:28,239
going back to what the WPT said, where they were like,

1506
01:15:28,239 --> 01:15:30,079
you know, the majority of people have never played a

1507
01:15:30,079 --> 01:15:31,680
tournament five or buying or higher.

1508
01:15:32,079 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, the very first hand the button anied because he

1509
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:39,720
had never played live. He picked up his cars to

1510
01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:41,359
look at so it's a bit. There was a lot

1511
01:15:41,359 --> 01:15:43,640
of those. But then I also had fucking Dan Jungleman

1512
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:46,039
Case on my table playing a flute.

1513
01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:47,399
Speaker 3: And when you looked at.

1514
01:15:47,279 --> 01:15:50,159
Speaker 2: The tables, like I walked around a little bit, there

1515
01:15:50,239 --> 01:15:54,039
was probably one or two competent or people that I

1516
01:15:54,119 --> 01:15:55,600
recognize on every table.

1517
01:15:56,279 --> 01:15:58,279
Speaker 3: Obviously, the play was kind of all over the place.

1518
01:15:58,279 --> 01:15:59,039
It was limping.

1519
01:15:59,079 --> 01:16:03,319
Speaker 2: There was some craziness, kind of what you would expect

1520
01:16:03,399 --> 01:16:05,960
with this thing. You know, you would get some good players,

1521
01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:07,920
get a lot of people that were fresh and new.

1522
01:16:08,039 --> 01:16:12,800
But everyone seemed to be having fun and enjoying themselves.

1523
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:16,479
And you know, got to listen to flute music all day.

1524
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 3: It was great.

1525
01:16:17,279 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 1: That would drag me absolutely nuts.

1526
01:16:19,199 --> 01:16:22,359
Speaker 2: I had my music so loud every Okay, so for

1527
01:16:22,399 --> 01:16:25,079
those that don't know, I had Dan Kate's sitting at

1528
01:16:25,079 --> 01:16:27,600
my table, and he had a not a flute, I

1529
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:31,079
guess it was a recorder, right, a recorder, and every

1530
01:16:31,119 --> 01:16:34,119
time he would raise a three bit or win a hand,

1531
01:16:34,319 --> 01:16:37,960
he would start playing what he thought was a song.

1532
01:16:38,399 --> 01:16:41,439
Speaker 3: Now he just learned how to play. That day, he

1533
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:42,359
was not very.

1534
01:16:42,159 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 2: Good, and people were getting You could tell people were

1535
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:48,640
getting mad, like we're getting really pissed off at him,

1536
01:16:49,159 --> 01:16:52,000
but at the end, like me personally, I thought it

1537
01:16:52,039 --> 01:16:53,399
was funny and it was also.

1538
01:16:53,159 --> 01:16:53,720
Speaker 3: A free rose.

1539
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:56,399
Speaker 2: I was like, whatever, it's he's having a bit of fun,

1540
01:16:56,479 --> 01:17:01,600
people trying to enjoy themselves. But yeah, that was how

1541
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:03,000
my starting table was.

1542
01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 1: So, fourteen hundred and fifty seven entries, what place did

1543
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:06,439
you come in?

1544
01:17:07,039 --> 01:17:09,119
Speaker 3: Ninety fifth? I think for like four k?

1545
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 1: Damn, Yeah that's pretty good. You owe me money?

1546
01:17:14,319 --> 01:17:16,319
Speaker 3: Yes, I did it, Yeah, exactly, it's on my list.

1547
01:17:16,319 --> 01:17:18,600
I'm my dad. Shit, right, here's what's I just.

1548
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:20,720
Speaker 1: Needed to say that that I had a piece of it,

1549
01:17:21,119 --> 01:17:21,720
which is good.

1550
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:22,279
Speaker 3: I played.

1551
01:17:22,279 --> 01:17:25,640
Speaker 2: I got very lucky twice, once before the money, once

1552
01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:27,680
in the money, and then my bus at hand, I

1553
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:30,399
had top two pair and got and got unlucky.

1554
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:34,399
Speaker 1: So yeah, what are you gonna do? Exactly? Chase Bricker

1555
01:17:34,439 --> 01:17:37,039
won it million dollars. We mentioned that Jason Christopher second

1556
01:17:37,079 --> 01:17:39,800
two urnd fifty K, Daniel Geba third, one hundred and

1557
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:43,520
twenty five K, Victor avalone seventy five K for fourth place,

1558
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:48,239
Patrick Askindar fifth place fifty K, Tyler Hancock sixth place

1559
01:17:48,239 --> 01:17:51,800
for forty K. Josh Gwindon, sorry if I put you

1560
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:53,880
to your last name. Josh seventh place for thirty K,

1561
01:17:54,079 --> 01:17:57,279
Eric Zang eighth place for twenty five k, and Jacob

1562
01:17:57,359 --> 01:18:00,760
Stufflebean that a great name at this final table ninth

1563
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:04,279
place for twenty thousand dollars. Again, that was the Club

1564
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:10,800
WPT Gold five million dollars Invitational freeroll TIERSA Sanders winning

1565
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:14,560
the eleven hundred dollars Ladies Championship for ninety thousand dollars,

1566
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:16,720
topping a fuel of four hundred and eighty five entries.

1567
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:21,079
Matthew Savia won the three K nolanman HoldEm PKO for

1568
01:18:21,319 --> 01:18:24,680
ninety two thousand dollars in prize money plus sixty nine thousand,

1569
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:27,000
five hundred dollars in bounties. This had two hundred and

1570
01:18:27,039 --> 01:18:31,720
ninety six entries. Adam Hendricks three thousand dollars three million

1571
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:34,520
dollar guaranteed event. He won it for six hundred and

1572
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:38,199
twenty nine thousand dollars after a deal. Fifteen hundred and

1573
01:18:38,479 --> 01:18:42,079
seventy entries in this one. This hand or sorry, this

1574
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:44,960
event had a bit of a downtick in numbers. I

1575
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:46,560
think it was over two thousand last year with a

1576
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:49,520
million to first, but anyway, still a really good turnout there.

1577
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:52,840
They obviously beat the guarantee. You so whatever. Mark Ebert

1578
01:18:53,039 --> 01:18:55,359
twenty five thousand dollars Alpha eight he won it for

1579
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:58,359
six hundred and eighty four thousand dollars after a deal.

1580
01:18:59,359 --> 01:19:03,039
One hundred eleven entries in this one. Ren Lynn, fresh

1581
01:19:03,079 --> 01:19:05,359
off the plane from the Bahamas, wins the three K

1582
01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:07,880
Dolman hold them six max for one hundred and eighty k.

1583
01:19:08,239 --> 01:19:11,159
This guy's just on absolute fire this year. And then

1584
01:19:11,239 --> 01:19:13,840
Jim Callapy I just saw before we press the record

1585
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:16,239
button that he won the ten K PLO for two

1586
01:19:16,279 --> 01:19:22,760
hundred and ten thousand dollars. All right, here's the big question.

1587
01:19:24,039 --> 01:19:29,560
Who won December? Was it WSP or was it WPT

1588
01:19:30,119 --> 01:19:31,920
WPT Really?

1589
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:36,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, why, I feel if you take a whole look

1590
01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:38,199
at both events, I think there was a bit more

1591
01:19:38,239 --> 01:19:43,039
negativity coming out of WSP. I just think the success

1592
01:19:43,159 --> 01:19:47,000
of the WPT event minus the guarantee, you know, plus

1593
01:19:47,039 --> 01:19:50,359
they did this new five million dollar free row. I

1594
01:19:50,359 --> 01:19:52,359
think they won. I think they won last December two,

1595
01:19:53,159 --> 01:19:54,079
so I think they'll win.

1596
01:19:54,239 --> 01:19:55,920
Speaker 1: I definitely think they won last December.

1597
01:19:56,319 --> 01:19:58,119
Speaker 2: And you can tell the way you can tell they

1598
01:19:58,159 --> 01:20:03,439
won with they winning is WSP are copying them, right,

1599
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:06,279
WPT do the biggest, They do the twenty five, then

1600
01:20:06,319 --> 01:20:08,279
they do the forty. They build it as the biggest

1601
01:20:08,319 --> 01:20:11,800
main event. What does WSP come and do they decide, Okay,

1602
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:13,359
we're going to do the biggest main event and they

1603
01:20:13,359 --> 01:20:15,640
do a fifty million, but it's a twenty five k

1604
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:19,720
by So what's going to happen next? We're going to

1605
01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:23,000
see a WSP free roll in the summer for six

1606
01:20:23,039 --> 01:20:26,600
million dollars. I hope so, because it seems like the

1607
01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:28,560
only whack and win money is in free roles. But

1608
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:33,920
so I would say, yeah, I think WPT one, Yeah,

1609
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:34,479
how about you?

1610
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:37,279
Speaker 1: So I have I have two answers to this question.

1611
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:40,920
One is a cop out. The cop out is that

1612
01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:45,880
poker won and poker continues to win because I think

1613
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:50,479
that I think that both events had their own share

1614
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:57,119
of success and ultimately didn't cannibalize each other to the

1615
01:20:57,159 --> 01:21:02,279
point that the plain community suffered. Which now, I there's

1616
01:21:02,319 --> 01:21:04,359
no doubt in my mind that they cannibalize each other

1617
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:07,640
to some extent, but I don't think they did it

1618
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:12,359
to a big detriment that you know, it's like this

1619
01:21:12,399 --> 01:21:14,199
event really hurt that event, and it really hurt the

1620
01:21:14,199 --> 01:21:15,680
players and all this sort of stuff. Right, Like, I

1621
01:21:16,119 --> 01:21:19,520
think ultimately both were successful, which means it's good for poker.

1622
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:22,239
It's good to have options, competition is good, all that

1623
01:21:22,279 --> 01:21:22,920
sort of stuff.

1624
01:21:23,039 --> 01:21:24,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree.

1625
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:27,600
Speaker 1: My second answer is WPT one. I mean, I just

1626
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:29,840
and what I what I mean by that is I

1627
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:34,560
just I feel like the sentiment leaving WPT is just

1628
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:37,439
a more positive one versus the sentiment of what I see,

1629
01:21:38,239 --> 01:21:40,279
you know, hearing from people in the Bahamas, where people

1630
01:21:40,319 --> 01:21:42,479
are like, it's time to get out of the Bahamas,

1631
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:44,520
Like it's like, you know, that sort of thing, whereas

1632
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:47,520
like WPT, it's almost like people are bummed that it's

1633
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:51,039
done in a way, Whereas and this could just be

1634
01:21:51,079 --> 01:21:53,640
a factor of the fact that it's the location, Like

1635
01:21:53,680 --> 01:21:55,800
it's hard to travel to a place and be away

1636
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:57,960
from home and all that sort of stuff. And and

1637
01:21:58,239 --> 01:22:01,600
even if you are traveling to win Las Vegas, like

1638
01:22:02,319 --> 01:22:04,680
you might, you're likely from the US and you're still

1639
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:07,079
within your country versus like you're going to the Bahamas,

1640
01:22:07,119 --> 01:22:08,600
which is an island. You got to deal with the

1641
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:11,079
Bohemian culture, which is, you know, they can serve your

1642
01:22:11,079 --> 01:22:13,520
food really slow, and stuff is really expensive and all

1643
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:15,520
all that sort of stuff. You're you know, you're really

1644
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:17,560
cramped in a hotel room, whereas if you're in the States,

1645
01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:19,439
you're a little bit more comfortable to like venture out

1646
01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:20,920
and all this sort of stuff. It could just be

1647
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:23,199
like a factor of that. But that's kind of why

1648
01:22:23,239 --> 01:22:26,439
I say, you know, WPT one and this is it's

1649
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:31,399
probably just a factor of how the WPT has always

1650
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:35,800
positioned its brand, how it's approached players. It's always really

1651
01:22:35,800 --> 01:22:40,880
tried to be player first and loyalty and respect and

1652
01:22:41,119 --> 01:22:43,199
you know, hey, this is what we're going to do

1653
01:22:43,279 --> 01:22:45,479
for you. We are always going to be player, player,

1654
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:47,279
player and do the best that we can and we

1655
01:22:47,319 --> 01:22:51,079
appreciate you guys. Blah blah blah. You know, and I'm

1656
01:22:51,119 --> 01:22:54,920
just not sure you get that same stuff out of

1657
01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:58,520
the World Series of Poker. You know. That said, the

1658
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:00,560
World Series of Poker is probably always going to be

1659
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:05,840
where the value is money wise on a bigger picture scale,

1660
01:23:06,439 --> 01:23:08,840
just because that's the biggest brand. That's what everyone knows.

1661
01:23:09,159 --> 01:23:11,079
Everyone's going to come out like in the summer and

1662
01:23:11,119 --> 01:23:14,159
just play all the events because it's just money, money, money, money, money, right.

1663
01:23:15,239 --> 01:23:19,640
But in December, I think WPT is winning right now.

1664
01:23:20,279 --> 01:23:22,560
You know, I would probably have said that it was

1665
01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:25,920
WCP if the numbers were quite a bit lower for

1666
01:23:26,199 --> 01:23:30,960
the WPT World Championship, But they drew almost twenty four hundred,

1667
01:23:31,199 --> 01:23:34,880
no guarantee. It's kind of like, Wow, we did it. Now,

1668
01:23:35,359 --> 01:23:38,079
I might totally change my tune next year because, like

1669
01:23:38,119 --> 01:23:40,880
I said, it could decline, Like you could still get

1670
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:44,039
the bump from last year that carries over to this year.

1671
01:23:44,359 --> 01:23:46,920
You have that five million dollar free roll playing into everything.

1672
01:23:47,399 --> 01:23:49,199
You know, if you don't have that carryover, if you

1673
01:23:49,199 --> 01:23:51,079
don't have that free roll buzz like all that sort

1674
01:23:51,119 --> 01:23:53,239
of stuff, do you dip a bit further down. I

1675
01:23:53,319 --> 01:23:55,640
don't know, right So that's just kind of left to

1676
01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:58,680
be seen. But I think I would agree with you

1677
01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:01,399
that I think the WBT is is winning this quote

1678
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:04,680
unquote wars that's happening beween these two big brands. But

1679
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:05,840
at the end of the day, like I said, I

1680
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:11,560
think it's generally a really good time to be a

1681
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:15,199
poker player. Like you have options, There are a lot

1682
01:24:15,239 --> 01:24:17,920
of options. I think the w s AP stuff that

1683
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:22,119
happens in Paradise is that's the option for the higher

1684
01:24:22,159 --> 01:24:25,880
buying player, like the Triton guys, the super high Rollers,

1685
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:28,119
all that sort of stuff. That's where they go. They

1686
01:24:28,159 --> 01:24:32,439
do their thing down there for the more recreational amateur

1687
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:36,960
shot taker pros that aren't of the super elite level,

1688
01:24:37,039 --> 01:24:40,319
like you have the WPT stuff at the win right.

1689
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:42,920
So and it's also like, now you know there's more

1690
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:46,239
stuff happening in Vegas around the WPT. I think you're

1691
01:24:46,279 --> 01:24:50,720
seeing I think you're seeing that much sooner than you

1692
01:24:51,199 --> 01:24:53,760
saw in the summer. Like for in the summer, for

1693
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:55,760
so long it was like we don't want to step

1694
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:58,279
on the w SIPs toes, we can't compete with them whatever,

1695
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:00,800
and then finally all these other venues realize like no,

1696
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:03,279
we can do our own thing. Now during the summer,

1697
01:25:03,319 --> 01:25:06,119
you have all these venues in Vegas doing their own series, right,

1698
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:09,520
And I think that because you saw that it really

1699
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:13,680
wasn't a bad thing and you could have stuff going

1700
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:15,800
up against the World Series of Poker in the summer.

1701
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:19,960
People in December have been ready to go, like you

1702
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:22,560
saw like this Aria Poker Open with the bed MGM

1703
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:24,479
Poker Championship, like they had a big series, and I

1704
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:26,840
think that's going to continue, and you have stuff going

1705
01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:29,000
on at the Orleans and you have stuff at Venetian,

1706
01:25:29,079 --> 01:25:31,720
Like you just have stuff going on around town, and

1707
01:25:32,039 --> 01:25:35,399
no one's really scared just because the WBT World Championship

1708
01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:37,600
is the biggest game in town during this month, Like,

1709
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:40,359
no one's scared about that. So I just think that

1710
01:25:40,399 --> 01:25:45,960
it's all pretty interesting and uh good overall, like really

1711
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:50,000
good overall for poker. So do you think either of

1712
01:25:50,039 --> 01:25:51,920
these series will make big changes for next year? I

1713
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:56,399
know you mentioned January, but like, is that gonna actually happen?

1714
01:25:56,439 --> 01:25:57,560
You actually think that would happen.

1715
01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 2: I guess it's it's all gonna happen in a past, right.

1716
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:07,359
I'm assuming WPT will to announce their dates and then

1717
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:10,560
WSP are going to announce their dates, and they're going

1718
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:12,319
to basically play this kind of cat and mouse game

1719
01:26:12,359 --> 01:26:14,640
to see what happens. You know, I don't know if

1720
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:18,279
there'll be much difference. I don't think WPT needs to move.

1721
01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:20,960
I don't think they need to do a guarantee on

1722
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:24,640
their main event either, So I think the most changes

1723
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:28,199
may happen from a WSP perspective. And you know, are

1724
01:26:28,199 --> 01:26:29,840
they going to keep a twenty five k main event?

1725
01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:32,680
Are they going to keep the fifty million guarantee. You know,

1726
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:36,079
are they going to make it more affordable, because if

1727
01:26:36,079 --> 01:26:39,199
we like, as we've kind of touched on, the series

1728
01:26:39,279 --> 01:26:43,880
is very expensive. You know, while the Win series targets

1729
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:46,880
a very different playerpool, you know, the you and me

1730
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:51,640
player pool. Is WSP going to make any changes to

1731
01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:54,159
try and a track some of those players, you know,

1732
01:26:54,199 --> 01:26:58,279
bring some of the buyings down, make it more more reachable,

1733
01:26:58,399 --> 01:27:01,680
more attainable for like the midstate guys. I guess that's

1734
01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:04,000
I get the thing that I would be looking out

1735
01:27:04,039 --> 01:27:04,600
for the most.

1736
01:27:05,159 --> 01:27:07,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that all that all makes sense. I

1737
01:27:07,359 --> 01:27:09,119
have no idea if there's going to be any big changes,

1738
01:27:09,159 --> 01:27:11,319
I would guess no. I mean the only big change

1739
01:27:11,319 --> 01:27:14,680
that I think, and this is like a change in

1740
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:16,880
the positive direction, was I heard that they might they're

1741
01:27:17,039 --> 01:27:19,000
likely going to go to ten million dollars for prime

1742
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:21,439
for the guarantee, which would be wild. And if they

1743
01:27:21,479 --> 01:27:24,159
do that, I would guess they get I don't know

1744
01:27:24,279 --> 01:27:26,279
twelve thousand players in the field who the hell knows,

1745
01:27:26,319 --> 01:27:30,600
but that that tournament in and of itself is worth

1746
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:33,880
coming to Vegas for the win. Yeah, at that tournament

1747
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:37,039
is so good, so so so good, Like I would

1748
01:27:37,239 --> 01:27:41,159
I would highly encourage anyone to play that tournament over

1749
01:27:41,279 --> 01:27:44,000
trying to play the ten K and then you know,

1750
01:27:44,079 --> 01:27:46,079
obviously you can win into the ten care or whatever,

1751
01:27:46,159 --> 01:27:49,640
but like plan four or five six bullets for this Prime,

1752
01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:54,840
because it's just so crazy bulls. I mean, it's it's

1753
01:27:55,039 --> 01:27:59,239
it's worth it, man, It's absolutely worth it's I would

1754
01:27:59,279 --> 01:28:01,479
say all of my table were like playingetself.

1755
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:04,399
Speaker 3: That really yeah, I mean it was it was.

1756
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:07,920
Speaker 1: It was crazy, man, it was absolutely crazy. And I

1757
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:09,399
heard a lot of the same from from a lot

1758
01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:12,399
of different people that it was just really really really

1759
01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:14,800
really really high value, you know, And I think obviously

1760
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:17,119
the entries I would be curious to see, I know

1761
01:28:17,159 --> 01:28:20,239
you talked about it with the WSP super Duper main Event,

1762
01:28:20,319 --> 01:28:22,920
you know, wanting to see the uniques. I would be

1763
01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:28,279
curious to see the number of unique players that played

1764
01:28:28,319 --> 01:28:32,600
both Prime and the ten KWPT World Championship, Like, what's

1765
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:36,720
what's that carry over there? You know, how big is

1766
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:40,640
that number? Because I think that that's that's interesting.

1767
01:28:41,319 --> 01:28:43,359
Speaker 3: And then sixty of the main event.

1768
01:28:44,399 --> 01:28:47,199
Speaker 1: And then also like I would again, I would like

1769
01:28:47,239 --> 01:28:50,279
to see you know, better starting days for the Prime,

1770
01:28:50,399 --> 01:28:53,359
specifically that the ten K is like, you might not

1771
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:55,319
need the best starting days just because it's a ten

1772
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:57,720
K and you know, just people just do whatever for

1773
01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:00,960
that event. Anyway, now it really does all depend on

1774
01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:05,239
this Amazon conference that happens every single year, Yeah, which

1775
01:29:05,279 --> 01:29:07,760
I think is on the books for December one through

1776
01:29:07,800 --> 01:29:12,199
fifth next year. So knowing that, it would then be

1777
01:29:12,319 --> 01:29:15,880
hard to cram in Prime and the World Championship with

1778
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:20,319
starting days that are like, you know, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday,

1779
01:29:20,359 --> 01:29:23,239
et cetera, just because obviously the need run into Christmas.

1780
01:29:23,239 --> 01:29:27,439
So it's just tricky. But I would say the event

1781
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:29,399
that is the most important to get the starting days

1782
01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:31,960
right is the Prime. That's what That's what I'm getting

1783
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:35,960
at here. Okay, but anyway, that'll wrap up our conversation

1784
01:29:36,239 --> 01:29:41,760
there on DISIP Paradise and the WPT World Championship Before

1785
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:42,960
we get out of here, do you want to hit

1786
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:46,359
on EPT Prague. I know it feels like kind of

1787
01:29:46,359 --> 01:29:50,479
an afterthought, but you know, EPT Prague is a very

1788
01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:54,560
storied series. It is incredibly big, as evidenced by the

1789
01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:57,960
fact that they had a record setting main event again

1790
01:29:58,359 --> 01:30:00,920
and they I mean they crushed their number. Yeah, So

1791
01:30:02,039 --> 01:30:04,439
the EPT PROG main event is a I think it's

1792
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:08,199
fifty three hundred euro buy in. They had fourteen hundred

1793
01:30:08,239 --> 01:30:11,359
and fifty eight entries, the record. That's a record center.

1794
01:30:12,039 --> 01:30:14,920
The previous record was last year when they had twelve

1795
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:18,920
eighty five, so almost two hundred entries more. With everything

1796
01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:21,479
that's going on in poker, with half the people going

1797
01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:23,880
to you know, WSP Paradise the other half going to

1798
01:30:24,239 --> 01:30:28,359
the WPT World Championship, they still crushed their previous record.

1799
01:30:29,399 --> 01:30:33,479
This EPT Progue event is just it's it's incredible to me.

1800
01:30:34,079 --> 01:30:38,199
Portugal's Pedro Marquez won it all. Took home nine hundred

1801
01:30:38,199 --> 01:30:41,079
and sixty three thousand euros, which is just over a

1802
01:30:41,119 --> 01:30:44,560
million dollars. He did make a deal heads up with

1803
01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:48,279
Paul Runkin out of Romania. They both took home nine

1804
01:30:48,359 --> 01:30:50,560
hundred thousand euros and then they played for the extra

1805
01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:54,520
sixty three thousand, four hundred and fifty euros. Marquez became

1806
01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:59,800
Portugal's third EPT championship, the first the first EPT champion

1807
01:31:00,079 --> 01:31:03,840
from Portugal in fifteen years, which is wild. He's thirty

1808
01:31:03,880 --> 01:31:06,439
one years old. He is second on Portugal's all time

1809
01:31:06,479 --> 01:31:07,439
money this who's number one?

1810
01:31:08,399 --> 01:31:09,239
Speaker 3: Hey, that's right.

1811
01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:15,279
Speaker 1: Tim is like scratching his head, squinting, crunching his scrunching

1812
01:31:15,319 --> 01:31:16,359
his face. He has no idea.

1813
01:31:16,399 --> 01:31:16,800
Speaker 3: Look at this.

1814
01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:19,319
Speaker 1: This guy's supposed to be the statman over here.

1815
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:22,680
Speaker 3: Give me a hint, Give me a hint. Ummm, because

1816
01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:24,000
it's not it's wow.

1817
01:31:25,119 --> 01:31:27,520
Speaker 1: M I can't even give you hints. I don't even

1818
01:31:27,560 --> 01:31:30,000
know how to give you a hints. He's a I'll

1819
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:31,840
say he's. I don't know if he currently is, but

1820
01:31:31,880 --> 01:31:34,000
he was definitely once was a winimax pro.

1821
01:31:36,199 --> 01:31:39,880
Speaker 3: Oh Yavia correct, Who's Who's.

1822
01:31:39,640 --> 01:31:41,359
Speaker 1: Way up on top with like twelve million? And then

1823
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:45,600
Marquez has like five point seven million. Marquez told Joe

1824
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:50,000
Stapleton in his post win interview, he said, this is

1825
01:31:50,119 --> 01:31:52,479
huge for me. I've been playing poker for ten years

1826
01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:56,199
and it's an amazing feeling. I hope one day everybody

1827
01:31:56,239 --> 01:31:59,359
in this room can have this feeling because it's great.

1828
01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:02,239
How would probably think it was great too? Winning just

1829
01:32:02,359 --> 01:32:08,439
over a million dollars Surprisingly not Marquez's biggest score ever,

1830
01:32:08,520 --> 01:32:10,399
which is you know, wild to think, but he did

1831
01:32:10,399 --> 01:32:15,479
finish fifth in the twenty twenty three PSPC the Poker

1832
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:19,079
Stars PSPC that twenty five k by an event he

1833
01:32:19,119 --> 01:32:22,520
got fifth there for one point two five million dollars.

1834
01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:26,199
He also took fourth place in EPT Barcelona in twenty

1835
01:32:26,279 --> 01:32:29,479
eighteen for eight hundred and thirteen thousand dollars. He's got

1836
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:32,159
a win in a ten thousand dollars high roller event

1837
01:32:32,199 --> 01:32:34,800
at EPT Barcelona in twenty nineteen for three hundred and

1838
01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:36,920
sixty six k He's got, you know, a bunch of

1839
01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:41,960
big scores? Does Pedro Marquez so an absolute crusher in

1840
01:32:42,039 --> 01:32:45,199
the ten years that he's been playing poker. He entered

1841
01:32:45,239 --> 01:32:48,119
heads up play against Runkin with a five to one

1842
01:32:48,319 --> 01:32:51,359
chip deficit, but he was able to storm back. As

1843
01:32:51,399 --> 01:32:54,279
I mentioned, they ended up chopping it evenly nine hundred

1844
01:32:54,279 --> 01:32:56,279
thousand euros each, and then they played for that extra

1845
01:32:56,439 --> 01:33:01,000
sixty three thousand, four and fifty euros, which Marquez. You had,

1846
01:33:01,479 --> 01:33:04,399
Jay June Park out of South Korea taking third place

1847
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:08,600
for five hundred and twelve thousand euros. Barack Oz fourth

1848
01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:11,880
place for three hundred and ninety three thousand euros, Anton Bergstrom,

1849
01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:15,199
a former EPT winner out of Sweden, three hundred and

1850
01:33:15,199 --> 01:33:22,119
three thousand euros. Sir hi Alansau, I probably completely butchered

1851
01:33:22,119 --> 01:33:24,319
that name worse than I've ever butchered a name, and

1852
01:33:24,319 --> 01:33:27,039
I'm probably gonna butcher all three of these next names horribly,

1853
01:33:27,119 --> 01:33:31,239
so I apologize. But sixth place for him two hundred

1854
01:33:31,239 --> 01:33:34,600
thirty three thousand euros Jeno Esquez out of the Netherlands

1855
01:33:34,600 --> 01:33:36,800
one hundred and seventy nine thousand dollars. Tim like nods

1856
01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:38,680
his head like if he's like, no, sound pretty good.

1857
01:33:41,039 --> 01:33:44,159
And then Siegfried Capela out of Austria for one hundred

1858
01:33:44,159 --> 01:33:47,880
and thirty eight thousand euros. So that is the record

1859
01:33:48,079 --> 01:33:51,199
setting EPT problem. It seems like every single year this

1860
01:33:51,279 --> 01:33:54,199
event just sets records and it kind of goes under

1861
01:33:54,239 --> 01:33:57,800
the radar with the fact that you have like all

1862
01:33:57,840 --> 01:34:00,800
eyes on the WPT, all eyes on the WSOP, but

1863
01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:04,600
EPT progue is still over there doing its thing, absolutely

1864
01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:07,239
cooking with what it's doing there.

1865
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:11,319
Speaker 2: I know it's not possible, but it would be awesome

1866
01:34:11,359 --> 01:34:14,920
to have the last two years data on the main

1867
01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:20,640
events from EPT Prague, WSP Paradise, WPT main event and

1868
01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:24,640
we could track like the patent of players, because I

1869
01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:27,920
would bet a lot of EPT Progue people go Prague

1870
01:34:28,319 --> 01:34:31,800
and then WSP. I'm not a lot, but I'm saying

1871
01:34:31,840 --> 01:34:33,439
like I would like to see kind of what the

1872
01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:37,119
overlap is for all three of these, and how the

1873
01:34:37,159 --> 01:34:38,479
patent of travel.

1874
01:34:38,359 --> 01:34:40,640
Speaker 3: Is for like these players. Yeah, I mean we never

1875
01:34:40,680 --> 01:34:41,319
get that data.

1876
01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:43,960
Speaker 1: Well, just just looking at the numbers, you know, seeing

1877
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:47,279
EPT Prague getting fourteen fifty eight in this main event.

1878
01:34:47,800 --> 01:34:49,359
You know, I'm going to hit on who won the

1879
01:34:49,439 --> 01:34:52,039
Eureka main event, which is an eleven hundred euro of

1880
01:34:52,079 --> 01:34:53,960
buying as part of the series, that had four thy

1881
01:34:54,079 --> 01:34:57,279
seven and thirty two entries there. You know, those those

1882
01:34:57,319 --> 01:34:59,640
types of players I think are just not traveling or

1883
01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:03,279
they're tveling very short distances within Europe to play like

1884
01:35:03,319 --> 01:35:05,640
those two events, and that's why those two draw where

1885
01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:08,239
I think Prague might have got hurt the most is

1886
01:35:08,239 --> 01:35:10,880
in the high roller area. Yeah, you see like this

1887
01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:13,159
twenty five thousand euro super high roll or that got

1888
01:35:13,199 --> 01:35:17,039
thirty five entries. You see this fifty thousand euro super

1889
01:35:17,119 --> 01:35:19,000
high roll or that got twenty five entries. You know,

1890
01:35:19,119 --> 01:35:22,399
maybe those are like fifty or sixty if you aren't

1891
01:35:22,479 --> 01:35:27,039
bouncing to go to WSP Paradise, right, or maybe they

1892
01:35:27,079 --> 01:35:31,319
come over for WPT at World Championship at the win.

1893
01:35:32,159 --> 01:35:35,920
But that said, I think for the players that played

1894
01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:38,600
those there's probably a decent amount of value. I would think,

1895
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:40,840
you know, like a lot of the big crushers are

1896
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:43,319
all just going to the Bahamas or they possibly go

1897
01:35:43,359 --> 01:35:47,960
into Las Vegas, so maybe they perceive some extra value there. Yes,

1898
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:51,159
it's smaller feel, but maybe they're easier to win. I

1899
01:35:51,199 --> 01:35:54,760
don't know. So in this Eureka main event again eleven

1900
01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:58,039
hundred euro buying four thousand, seven hundred and thirty two entries.

1901
01:35:58,079 --> 01:36:03,359
Good Lord Martin Sveetanov won it for five hundred and

1902
01:36:03,359 --> 01:36:05,640
seventeen thousand euros, which is five hundred and forty four

1903
01:36:05,640 --> 01:36:10,760
thousand dollars. Espen George Dad former w SOP main event winner,

1904
01:36:10,840 --> 01:36:13,600
won the twenty five thousand euro super high Roller warm

1905
01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:15,880
up for two hundred and seventy seven k or two

1906
01:36:15,960 --> 01:36:19,439
hundred ninety three thousand dollars. Patrick Jarles won the ten

1907
01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:23,760
thousand euro high Roller, topped the field of two hundred

1908
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:26,800
and eighty nine entries five hundred and seventy three thousand

1909
01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:30,239
euros there six hundred and two k in dollars, and

1910
01:36:30,279 --> 01:36:33,520
then Thomas Santurne won the fifty thousand euro super high

1911
01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:36,800
Roller for three hundred and eighty five thousand euros or

1912
01:36:36,840 --> 01:36:41,279
four hundred, seven thousand dollars twenty five entries there. So

1913
01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:43,119
again that's kind of where I think they might have

1914
01:36:43,239 --> 01:36:45,399
lost you know, I don't know, let's say a dozen

1915
01:36:45,439 --> 01:36:48,359
to two dozand entries in those high roller events. But

1916
01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:50,880
you know, when you're pumping out over fourteen hundred and

1917
01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:53,079
the main event and crushing your record from the year before,

1918
01:36:53,159 --> 01:36:55,680
when you're pumping out, you know, almost five thousand entries

1919
01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:58,439
in this eleven hundred euro event, Like, I mean, you're

1920
01:36:58,520 --> 01:37:01,960
you're you're doing good things. I one of the things

1921
01:37:02,000 --> 01:37:04,920
I draw kind of from this whole, from all three

1922
01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:11,199
of these events, there's not really a direct comparison in paradise.

1923
01:37:11,279 --> 01:37:15,640
I guess you could look at this mini main event,

1924
01:37:15,880 --> 01:37:17,840
the two seven hundred and fifty dollars buy in that

1925
01:37:17,920 --> 01:37:22,279
had two thousand and thirty one entries, But like the

1926
01:37:22,319 --> 01:37:25,319
eleven hundred dollars, price plainting in poker is the sweet

1927
01:37:25,359 --> 01:37:28,760
spot of poker right now. Like, I just think that

1928
01:37:28,760 --> 01:37:33,920
that's the best price point possible. Like it's just everyone

1929
01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:37,720
that does in that ballpark, you know, it does extremely well.

1930
01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:40,760
I think you see it probably the most from WPT

1931
01:37:40,840 --> 01:37:43,279
Prime what they do in all of their events, all

1932
01:37:43,279 --> 01:37:45,840
around the world, of course, highlighted the most by the

1933
01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:49,800
WPT Prime Championship that gets almost ten thousand runners this

1934
01:37:49,880 --> 01:37:52,760
month out in December. But you also have this Eureka

1935
01:37:52,840 --> 01:37:55,479
Main event has four seven hundred and thirty two entries

1936
01:37:55,520 --> 01:37:58,000
over in Prague. All the Eureka main events seem to

1937
01:37:58,079 --> 01:38:00,199
just blow doors. You have the one in Barcelona that

1938
01:38:00,319 --> 01:38:02,600
was great, all that sort of stuff. Every time there's like,

1939
01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:06,279
you know, an eleven hundred dollars or whatever event at

1940
01:38:06,720 --> 01:38:10,680
a WSB circuit stop or at an MSPT or at

1941
01:38:10,720 --> 01:38:12,680
the Venetian or whatever it may be, it just they

1942
01:38:12,680 --> 01:38:15,399
always seem to crush like this is the price point

1943
01:38:15,399 --> 01:38:20,319
that is just like it's it's big enough that you know,

1944
01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:25,279
it allows like bigger players to step down in stakes

1945
01:38:25,479 --> 01:38:28,800
and want to go after it. But it's also you know,

1946
01:38:29,079 --> 01:38:31,960
not too far out of reach for like everyone to

1947
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:34,319
take a shot. I mean, I know, a thousand dollars

1948
01:38:34,600 --> 01:38:36,800
is a lot of like actual dollars, I get it,

1949
01:38:36,840 --> 01:38:39,319
But like in poker sense, it's not that bad. Like

1950
01:38:39,359 --> 01:38:41,520
you can spring a thousand bucks, you know, you can.

1951
01:38:42,039 --> 01:38:43,600
You can sell a little bit of action and maybe

1952
01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:45,520
you're only spending five six hundred of your own money

1953
01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:47,840
or whatever it may be. So I think that that's

1954
01:38:47,960 --> 01:38:50,600
like just the best price point in poker. If I

1955
01:38:50,720 --> 01:38:53,720
was starting in a poker series tomorrow, I would target

1956
01:38:53,760 --> 01:38:56,680
this price point, or I would target the five thousand

1957
01:38:56,680 --> 01:38:58,199
dollars price point, you know, if I wanted to go

1958
01:38:58,199 --> 01:39:00,439
a little bit bigger and tap into that I've talked

1959
01:39:00,479 --> 01:39:03,920
about before. But this one just just always seems like

1960
01:39:03,960 --> 01:39:06,520
it does so so so well. You know, once you

1961
01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:10,199
start getting to like five hundred or six hundred dollars,

1962
01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:13,960
you know, it's it's not terribly different than an eleven

1963
01:39:14,079 --> 01:39:17,760
hundred dollars, but it's just it's almost like too small,

1964
01:39:17,960 --> 01:39:21,039
Like you just don't people don't step down, like we'll

1965
01:39:21,039 --> 01:39:23,720
step dound to play a one K because it's just fine.

1966
01:39:24,199 --> 01:39:26,760
And I think, like, you know, you see the what

1967
01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:28,199
are they call it in the summer now, the million

1968
01:39:28,199 --> 01:39:30,359
dollar bounty? What the heck is that tournament called these?

1969
01:39:30,920 --> 01:39:31,119
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1970
01:39:31,359 --> 01:39:33,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that one's just a insane like but

1971
01:39:33,760 --> 01:39:36,560
it's like it's just this is the price point that

1972
01:39:36,640 --> 01:39:39,039
just does so well, and you see it across all tours,

1973
01:39:39,159 --> 01:39:42,560
you really do, so so yeah, I know I know

1974
01:39:42,600 --> 01:39:45,039
what the WPT this December, they had all these like

1975
01:39:45,039 --> 01:39:48,319
eleven hundred dollars turbo events happening, and they were just

1976
01:39:48,359 --> 01:39:50,920
like you know, everyone was like fifty k, sixty k

1977
01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:54,960
for first place, just like so great. So yeah, this

1978
01:39:55,039 --> 01:39:57,319
is a price point that is just really the the

1979
01:39:57,359 --> 01:40:00,319
sweet spot for all of poker. And you thought from

1980
01:40:00,359 --> 01:40:04,439
you on Prague, have you ever been, No, never been

1981
01:40:05,680 --> 01:40:07,880
on your bucket list? It's worth it.

1982
01:40:07,920 --> 01:40:10,399
Speaker 3: I guess the biggest question is are you're going to

1983
01:40:10,439 --> 01:40:11,520
break another record next to you?

1984
01:40:12,079 --> 01:40:15,479
Speaker 1: Yes, they break records every freaking year in this stupid tournament.

1985
01:40:15,520 --> 01:40:18,239
I mean it's not stupid. I'm just using that for effective,

1986
01:40:18,279 --> 01:40:21,640
but it's like every year they crush every single year.

1987
01:40:21,920 --> 01:40:26,239
Our good friend Yan Correz puts he's the media coordinator

1988
01:40:26,279 --> 01:40:29,319
for Poker Stars and the EPT, so he has the

1989
01:40:29,359 --> 01:40:32,760
EPT prog main event history fourteen fifty eight this year.

1990
01:40:32,840 --> 01:40:34,960
Last year was twelve eighty five, The year before that

1991
01:40:35,000 --> 01:40:38,000
was twelve sixty seven, The year before that was eleven ninety,

1992
01:40:38,399 --> 01:40:41,319
then eleven fifty four, then eleven seventy four. You know,

1993
01:40:41,439 --> 01:40:43,640
I mean, yeah, it's just basically up every single year.

1994
01:40:44,319 --> 01:40:48,960
The only like real outlier is going back to twenty

1995
01:40:49,079 --> 01:40:52,279
thirteen is twenty seventeen, they had eight hundred and fifty

1996
01:40:52,279 --> 01:40:54,920
five entries. I have no idea what happened that year,

1997
01:40:55,520 --> 01:40:57,520
but that was the one that dipped. Every other one

1998
01:40:57,560 --> 01:41:01,520
is above one thousand since two and thirteen, you know,

1999
01:41:01,560 --> 01:41:04,479
and it's all just it's just crushing every single year.

2000
01:41:04,600 --> 01:41:09,520
So yeah, wild, absolutely wild. I mean Prague is Progue

2001
01:41:09,560 --> 01:41:12,000
is worth it. I mean, obviously they're backed by stars,

2002
01:41:12,039 --> 01:41:14,119
so they can you know, qualify a lot of people online.

2003
01:41:14,479 --> 01:41:16,680
But it's also like just become one of those stops

2004
01:41:17,439 --> 01:41:20,520
that you really, you know, I can't miss, don't want

2005
01:41:20,520 --> 01:41:24,000
to miss. If you're in that region, you know, in

2006
01:41:24,279 --> 01:41:25,920
Europe and you want to travel for that sort of thing,

2007
01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:27,640
you don't want to take a little bit of a

2008
01:41:27,680 --> 01:41:30,560
longer flight down to the Bahamas or or whatnot. Maybe

2009
01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:33,760
it's uh, maybe it's more affordable to travel to Prague too.

2010
01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:36,199
I'm guessing it's not as expensive as going to the Bahamas,

2011
01:41:36,239 --> 01:41:37,640
probably not as expensive as coming.

2012
01:41:37,479 --> 01:41:40,760
Speaker 3: To the sea, staying at the Wyn, that sort of stuff.

2013
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:45,399
Speaker 1: So really really really good series there from Prague, always

2014
01:41:45,439 --> 01:41:47,079
good stuff coming out of them. And when you when

2015
01:41:47,119 --> 01:41:51,199
you couple it with the the holiday time in Prague,

2016
01:41:51,279 --> 01:41:55,119
the Christmas markets it's it is awesome. I've been there

2017
01:41:55,159 --> 01:41:58,319
several times. It really is unbeatable. So if that's your

2018
01:41:58,319 --> 01:42:01,600
sort of thing, I would highly encourage you to attend. So,

2019
01:42:01,720 --> 01:42:04,520
as I said at the top of the show, Tim

2020
01:42:04,520 --> 01:42:08,359
and I will be back soon to be heavy as

2021
01:42:08,399 --> 01:42:10,840
it relates to the Poker Go Tour, because we are

2022
01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:13,960
going into our big finale to the series. We have

2023
01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:17,279
the PGT Last Chance Series, and then that's going to

2024
01:42:17,359 --> 01:42:22,960
go right into the PGT Championship, the PGT Million Dollar Championship,

2025
01:42:23,000 --> 01:42:25,399
which is going to be a lot of fun. That's

2026
01:42:25,439 --> 01:42:28,880
all going on in January. It starts January second. There's

2027
01:42:28,920 --> 01:42:30,560
going to be a lot of live streaming for us

2028
01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:32,920
in January. We have the PGT Last Chance, we have

2029
01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:35,239
the PGT Championship, and then right after that we have

2030
01:42:35,279 --> 01:42:37,159
the PGT Kickoff to start the new season.

2031
01:42:37,239 --> 01:42:38,560
Speaker 3: So a lot of.

2032
01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:44,760
Speaker 1: PGTPGTPGT coming your way in January. Until then, please enjoy

2033
01:42:45,039 --> 01:42:48,560
your holidays, enjoy Christmas, all of that good stuff. Hopefully

2034
01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:50,800
you guys, Hopefully you just open your presence and it's

2035
01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:51,880
just a boatload of money so.

2036
01:42:51,840 --> 01:42:52,880
Speaker 3: You can be good.

2037
01:42:53,199 --> 01:42:55,600
Speaker 1: That's all. That's all I care about. Everyone's like, what

2038
01:42:55,600 --> 01:42:57,039
do you want. I'm like, I just want money because

2039
01:42:57,079 --> 01:42:58,840
I want to then go play poker, like that's all

2040
01:42:58,840 --> 01:43:00,159
I care about. I don't care, you know, maybe you

2041
01:43:00,159 --> 01:43:01,279
buying me a sweater or something. I don't know.

2042
01:43:01,319 --> 01:43:02,560
Speaker 3: I've already opened my presents.

2043
01:43:02,800 --> 01:43:03,760
Speaker 1: Wow, look at you.

2044
01:43:04,159 --> 01:43:06,560
Speaker 2: I did Black Friday shopping. I wanted like gym stuff,

2045
01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:09,159
and I wanted the stuff in the gym so I

2046
01:43:09,159 --> 01:43:12,720
could use it. So the wife basically wrapped the empty boxes.

2047
01:43:13,640 --> 01:43:15,720
So I'm still gonna open the present, but I'm already

2048
01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:18,279
using it, all right, cool, all.

2049
01:43:18,279 --> 01:43:19,800
Speaker 1: Right, So that's gonna do it for us. My name

2050
01:43:19,840 --> 01:43:22,439
is Donny Peters. His name is Tim Duckworth, and we

2051
01:43:22,439 --> 01:43:24,079
will talk to you guys next time.

2052
01:43:24,319 --> 01:43:24,680
Speaker 2: So you are