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You can also find 13 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:41,799 me on Twitter where things are a raging at peak Calendar. 14 00:00:43,799 --> 00:00:51,600 Why are things raging on Twitter? Well with a specific category, Well, 15 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,159 I mean, okay, things are always raging on Twitter. Okay, 16 00:00:54,159 --> 00:01:01,920 fair enough, But I have got a swarm of the 17 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:06,400 the leftist moonbats around me over the last twenty four 18 00:01:06,439 --> 00:01:12,840 hours on Twitter because they know it's bad. They know 19 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,560 this is a bad story for my good friend Ray 20 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,760 Roy cut him loose Cooper running for US Senate. They 21 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:28,280 are now concerned their actions prove it. They are very, 22 00:01:28,439 --> 00:01:34,359 very worried about the connection between Roy Cooper's collusive settlement 23 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,680 with the ACLU and the NAACP that turned loose thousands 24 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:45,519 of inmates from the prisons during COVID, and they're trying 25 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:50,519 to play a little too clever by half with their 26 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:54,079 what about isms. I'm hearing what about Jay six ers, 27 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,000 what about Jay six what about all the Republicans? 28 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: What about this? What about that? What about this? What 29 00:01:59,519 --> 00:02:02,400 about that? Rather than. 30 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: Dealing with the fact that Roy Cooper released thirty five 31 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:17,960 hundred inmates during COVID, he did so after he was sued. 32 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,960 The state was sued by the ACLU and the end 33 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:26,800 of LACP in North Carolina. And here's the thing they 34 00:02:26,879 --> 00:02:31,599 touted it. We're going to take a walk down memory lane. 35 00:02:31,879 --> 00:02:39,039 I have here in my hands various stories, reports, and 36 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:44,319 the settlement agreement itself that was entered into back in 37 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:50,639 twenty twenty one. As I understand it, now, the list 38 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,800 of the inmates that were released. I've seen different reports 39 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,039 that the list has now been released. I've not seen 40 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,039 the list. All it is is a list of three thousand, 41 00:03:01,159 --> 00:03:08,719 five hundred inmate numbers with like release dates. And because 42 00:03:08,759 --> 00:03:11,719 there were three different tracks that these inmates could go 43 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,759 down in order to get out early and by the way, 44 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:21,560 the Cooper administration before the settlement was publicizing how they 45 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:25,719 were working on reducing the jail population in an accelerated 46 00:03:25,759 --> 00:03:29,759 fashion anyway, that they were doing things to clear out 47 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:34,520 the jails. In fact, they had reduced the jail population 48 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,639 by almost one third after the settlement. But before the 49 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:42,520 settlement they were touting how they had released like six 50 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,400 thousand inmates on an accelerated path to get them out 51 00:03:45,439 --> 00:03:50,360 of the jails because of COVID. You see and the 52 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:56,000 reaction to this story. You can see the ground troops 53 00:03:56,479 --> 00:04:01,159 all mobilizing for Cooper right there. But response team is 54 00:04:01,159 --> 00:04:05,840 putting out these denials saying to Carlos Brown Junior, because 55 00:04:05,879 --> 00:04:07,840 this was the impetus for all of this, was to 56 00:04:07,919 --> 00:04:12,439 Carlos Brown Junior, the man accused of murdering Arena Zarutzka. 57 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,959 And really there's like there's really nothing else too. I mean, 58 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,720 like I don't even say allegedly because he's on video 59 00:04:21,199 --> 00:04:25,079 doing it. We have two different video angles of it, 60 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:29,560 we have eyewitnesses. It's very clear he stood up behind 61 00:04:29,759 --> 00:04:34,120 this Ukrainian refugee who was on the light railback in 62 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:38,879 August last year, riding home on the train. From work 63 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,600 at the pizza place and she sits down in a seat. 64 00:04:42,639 --> 00:04:47,399 She's looking at her phone and Carlos Brown Junior stands 65 00:04:47,439 --> 00:04:51,040 up behind her and just blindsides her and stabs her 66 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:55,319 in the neck and she dies right there within like 67 00:04:55,399 --> 00:04:59,319 a minute. He then gets off the train. He's muttering 68 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,639 to himself, and that will be like whether or not 69 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,639 he is deemed to be mentally incapable of standing trial, right, 70 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,079 that's going to be the first sort of legal test 71 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,439 to go through because the facts of the case, when 72 00:05:12,439 --> 00:05:15,800 you see the video, they are not in doubt he 73 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:21,839 did it. So he was on the list of the 74 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,560 people that were to be released as part of this settlement, 75 00:05:27,759 --> 00:05:34,759 and that is that is lethal to a campaign like Cooper's. 76 00:05:35,199 --> 00:05:39,240 The guy is running, as you know, four time attorney general, 77 00:05:39,759 --> 00:05:42,680 I was the two term governor. I've always been tough 78 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,720 on crime, and I'm tough on crime because the Democrat 79 00:05:45,879 --> 00:05:48,439 politicians as savvy as Cooper is, and say what you 80 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,639 want about Cooper, but he is politically savvy. He understands 81 00:05:52,639 --> 00:05:58,639 the stuff, the defund the police garbage was toxic to 82 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:02,920 the Democrats in the last two legislative election cycles. 83 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 1: They know this too. I mean, well, the smart ones do. 84 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,639 Speaker 2: There are still a bunch of leftists that still run 85 00:06:07,639 --> 00:06:14,160 on this decarceration and defund the police platform, although to 86 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,120 be fair, they don't really say it out loud so 87 00:06:16,199 --> 00:06:17,959 much anymore. But I'm sure it's some point. I mean, 88 00:06:17,959 --> 00:06:20,680 that's what the abolish ice is all about too. It's just, hey, 89 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,439 here's the law enforcement agency we can target for defunding. 90 00:06:23,759 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: It's just let's say, well, we'll go after them, same messaging. 91 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:32,399 Speaker 2: So Cooper knows this right, That's why he always touts 92 00:06:32,439 --> 00:06:34,759 all of the endorsements from any kind of law enforcement 93 00:06:34,959 --> 00:06:38,600 organization when he was running for ag or governor. Because 94 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,959 Democrats have a soft underbelly when it comes to crime 95 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:46,160 and public safety. They're not seen as strong on crime 96 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,759 because they're not. And you know, whether it's at the 97 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:54,240 judicial level with their judges and the magistrates, or it's 98 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,319 with the elected officials at the legislative level. They have 99 00:06:57,399 --> 00:06:58,839 proven this to be the case over and over and 100 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,000 over again. Virginia is giving a it's a classic example 101 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,240 of it right now too. They're running bills now that 102 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:08,199 the Democrats have the trifecta up their House, Senate and governor, 103 00:07:08,319 --> 00:07:13,519 they're running bills to lower the penalties for all sorts 104 00:07:13,519 --> 00:07:17,519 of violent crimes and take your guns away from you too, 105 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,639 So this way you can't defend yourself when the criminals 106 00:07:19,639 --> 00:07:24,120 are released back out onto the streets. So let's go back. 107 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,839 This is from the Carolina Public Press, a piece by 108 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:33,160 Jordan Wilkie. This was on February twenty fifth, twenty twenty one, 109 00:07:33,519 --> 00:07:38,160 so almost exactly what five years ago, and this was 110 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:42,360 the day that the agreement was signed. February twenty fifth, 111 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,959 that the settlement in the litigation was signed, thereby avoiding 112 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,959 a trial after eleven months of litigation. The North Carolina 113 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,480 prison system will fast track the release of at least 114 00:07:53,759 --> 00:07:56,879 three thousand, five hundred people over the next six months 115 00:07:57,279 --> 00:08:00,360 as part of a legal settlement over prison condition during 116 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,800 the COVID nineteen pandemic. This is one of the largest 117 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:10,439 and likely the largest and most specific releases of people 118 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,279 from prison as a result of a court action during 119 00:08:13,279 --> 00:08:17,279 a pandemic, according to Aaron Littman, the deputy director of 120 00:08:17,319 --> 00:08:21,800 the COVID nineteen Behind Bars Data Project, which was led 121 00:08:21,839 --> 00:08:25,680 by the UCLA Law School. In other cases around the 122 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,000 country where judges have ruled the release of significant numbers 123 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:35,000 of people. Higher courts overturned the rulings. See that's what 124 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:39,840 happens when you fight, you would actually win. The courts 125 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:45,159 on appeal would overturn the lower courts dumbass rulings. But 126 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,759 we didn't do that. In North Carolina, Governor Cooper and 127 00:08:47,879 --> 00:08:51,879 Josh Stein, they didn't do that. They entered into the 128 00:08:51,919 --> 00:08:57,559 deal because I assume they wanted to playgate their radical 129 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:02,600 decarceration base. And since it was a settlement, which is 130 00:09:02,639 --> 00:09:06,600 an agreement between the parties involved, it cannot be overruled 131 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:11,639 by a judge. Wait County Superior Court Judge Vincetent Rosier 132 00:09:11,759 --> 00:09:16,759 Junior or Rose Air Rosier Rosier. He ruled last June, 133 00:09:17,279 --> 00:09:20,279 so that would have been June of twenty twenty that 134 00:09:20,399 --> 00:09:23,679 prison conditions were likely unconstitutional in that the state had 135 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:27,159 to take several measures to protect incarcerated people from COVID nineteen. 136 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,879 So the measures that Cooper decided to take was to 137 00:09:31,919 --> 00:09:32,639 just cut him loose. 138 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: There you go. 139 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 2: It's easier to get the six feet of distance between 140 00:09:38,759 --> 00:09:41,000 everybody because that will slow the spread. We're going to 141 00:09:41,039 --> 00:09:43,960 get six feet apart by having fewer people in the prisons. 142 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:48,480 So we just turn them all loose. 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Minimum ods required for additional terms 170 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:22,039 and responsible gaming resources see DKG dot co slash audio 171 00:11:22,159 --> 00:11:25,639 limited time offer. In February of twenty twenty one, a 172 00:11:25,639 --> 00:11:29,399 piece appeared at the Carolina Public Press dot org by 173 00:11:29,519 --> 00:11:33,279 Jordan Wilkie talking about this settlement. The headline NC Prisons 174 00:11:33,759 --> 00:11:38,360 settle naacpiece agree to fast track release of thirty five 175 00:11:38,519 --> 00:11:44,480 hundred inmates. Spurred on by the lawsuit originally filed in 176 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:48,000 state court in April of twenty twenty. The state prison 177 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:54,559 system has already been releasing people at an increased rate. Okay, 178 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:59,759 so before the settlement even happened, the state was accele 179 00:12:00,279 --> 00:12:02,919 the release of inmates. And you know who was part 180 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:07,960 of that acceleration to Carlos Brown Junior, he was also 181 00:12:08,039 --> 00:12:11,120 on the list as part of the settlement, so they 182 00:12:11,159 --> 00:12:14,960 counted him towards the thirty five hundred. So here's the deal. Okay, 183 00:12:15,759 --> 00:12:19,679 they released him early. Had he not been released early, 184 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,440 and when I say early, I mean he served the 185 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,399 mandatory minimum sentence, but he still had about three years 186 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:27,759 left on his total sentence. But they cut him loose 187 00:12:28,039 --> 00:12:30,879 rather than serve the max eight years for robbery with 188 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:36,120 a deadly weapon violent crime. Right, So rather than make 189 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,440 them serve the mandatory eight they cut him loose after 190 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,879 the mandatory minimum sentence and put him on parole. He 191 00:12:42,919 --> 00:12:46,840 then commits another crime, gets rearrested, they cut him loose 192 00:12:46,879 --> 00:12:52,120 again because they had already started the releasing of the 193 00:12:52,159 --> 00:12:58,360 inmates on an accelerated rate. So had he not been 194 00:12:58,399 --> 00:13:03,240 released on his back in September of twenty twenty with 195 00:13:03,279 --> 00:13:06,559 the mandatory minimum sent and served, he would have been 196 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:10,080 included in the list in the settlement release. 197 00:13:12,799 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 1: That's number one. Number two. 198 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 2: Are we to believe then, that you put you, being 199 00:13:19,799 --> 00:13:25,639 Roy Cooper, that Cooper put to Carlos Brown Junior onto 200 00:13:25,759 --> 00:13:29,960 the list in order to puff up the numbers he 201 00:13:30,039 --> 00:13:33,120 was already out, Pete, he was already out. He was 202 00:13:33,159 --> 00:13:35,559 already out. He wasn't released as part of the settlement. 203 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:38,360 I mean he would have been, but he was already released. 204 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:41,799 He was already out. Well, then why did you put 205 00:13:41,879 --> 00:13:46,279 him on the list to puff up the numbers so 206 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,960 you could go out there and say we have the 207 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:53,000 largest prison break, sorry release. 208 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: Of any state in America. 209 00:13:56,879 --> 00:14:00,159 Speaker 2: When Roy Cooper isn't out there doing laps around the 210 00:14:00,159 --> 00:14:02,720 governor's mansion doing the black power fist in the air 211 00:14:02,759 --> 00:14:06,080 with his mask halfway off his face in solidarity with 212 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:12,279 the BLM rioters. Meanwhile he's telling everybody else, you can't 213 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,000 go to an outdoor funeral for your loved one who 214 00:14:15,039 --> 00:14:18,279 died while locked away, and you couldn't visit in their 215 00:14:18,279 --> 00:14:23,039 final days when they died of COVID Like he did 216 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,240 this lockdown for everybody, and then when the BLM folks 217 00:14:26,279 --> 00:14:31,559 take to the streets, that's okay, He'll march with them again. 218 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:36,320 This was in his re election campaign. This was twenty twenty. 219 00:14:36,639 --> 00:14:42,519 He was facing reelection and so he needed to be 220 00:14:42,639 --> 00:14:46,320 in the good graces of this radical component of the 221 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:51,720 Democrat base. He presents himself as a moderate, and he 222 00:14:51,799 --> 00:14:55,320 governs as a radical because he can't say no to 223 00:14:55,399 --> 00:15:01,159 these most depraved groups inside the Democrat Party. And so 224 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:06,519 best case scenario is that you fast tracked Brown for 225 00:15:06,639 --> 00:15:10,159 early release before he was part of the settlement, and 226 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,799 then you threw his number, his inmate number, onto your 227 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,720 settlement list in order to jack up the numbers to 228 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:19,679 make it look like you were doing the most in America. 229 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,919 So he wanted the credit. He wanted the credit from 230 00:15:22,919 --> 00:15:27,679 the ACLU and the media in the radical base, the 231 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:31,960 decarceration crowd, the defund the police crowd. He wanted. He 232 00:15:32,039 --> 00:15:35,720 wanted their praise, and he got it. By the way 233 00:15:36,279 --> 00:15:42,000 he got it. The state prison system was already releasing 234 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,360 people at an increased rate. According to the settlement. The 235 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:49,840 prison population went from thirty four thousand plus at the 236 00:15:49,879 --> 00:15:52,240 beginning of the pandemic, went from thirty four to four 237 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:58,120 down to twenty eight five twenty five eighty one in 238 00:15:58,200 --> 00:15:58,720 one year. 239 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:02,039 Speaker 1: Let's see here. 240 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,759 Speaker 2: This is from This is a quote from Ben Finnoult, 241 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:10,360 the director of the Just Sentencing Project for the NC 242 00:16:10,559 --> 00:16:15,320 Prisoner Legal Services, which is a nonprofit and nonpartisan law firm, 243 00:16:15,799 --> 00:16:18,919 quoted in this piece at Carolina Public Press as far 244 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,639 as I know, it's the largest mass decarceration effort in 245 00:16:22,639 --> 00:16:23,240 the country. 246 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: End quote. 247 00:16:25,879 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 2: I said this yesterday, I said this the day before yesterday. Right, 248 00:16:30,679 --> 00:16:34,279 this is the point it is to empty the jails. 249 00:16:34,519 --> 00:16:36,159 And by the way, do you think it had any 250 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:40,240 impact on the crime rate surging during and right after COVID? 251 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:42,799 Now they're like, oh, crime is down. Crime is down, Yeah, 252 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:44,600 because all the people that you let out probably have 253 00:16:44,639 --> 00:16:48,679 reoffended by now and have got locked up again. He says, 254 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:50,679 My hope is that the Department of Public Safety is 255 00:16:50,679 --> 00:16:53,879 not simply going to, you know, release everybody who would 256 00:16:53,879 --> 00:16:57,320 have been released in the next six months, and to 257 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,440 do it two weeks before they were going to be released, 258 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:04,079 just to get that number up. Well, is that what 259 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:11,519 Cooper did? Did Cooper trick you and the decarceration crowd? 260 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:15,039 Did they pump those numbers up artificially by including people 261 00:17:15,039 --> 00:17:19,039 that had already been early released. In a May filing 262 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,079 for the defendants, Nicole Sullivan, the director of re Entry 263 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,680 Programs and Services for DPS, said, quote, there was simply 264 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,519 no way to accomplish a mass release of offenders into 265 00:17:28,559 --> 00:17:33,000 the community at one time without sacrificing either the services, 266 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:37,960 the re entry services that make re entry a success, 267 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:42,160 or the interests of public safety. She said there was 268 00:17:42,319 --> 00:17:47,079 no way to accomplish this without sacrificing re entry services 269 00:17:47,519 --> 00:17:52,559 or public safety. Lawyers for the state held this position 270 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,400 through most of the court hearing. It is not clear 271 00:17:56,759 --> 00:18:00,160 what has changed, if anything, in the state's preparedness is 272 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,880 to release the additional people as required in this settlement. 273 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: What changed? What changed? You said? 274 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,599 Speaker 2: DPS said, we can't do this without risking the interest 275 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:17,119 of public without risking public safety, and then all of 276 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:21,839 a sudden they agree to it, and they've never said 277 00:18:22,039 --> 00:18:26,319 what changed their mind. I feel like that's something that 278 00:18:26,319 --> 00:18:29,599 should probably be answered. All right, I hope you had 279 00:18:29,599 --> 00:18:32,319 a happy holiday season, But tell me if something like 280 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,039 this happened at your house. Your family and friends are 281 00:18:35,039 --> 00:18:37,960 gathered around, maybe y'all are in the living room, you're laughing, 282 00:18:38,079 --> 00:18:42,519 swapping stories, reminiscing, and then somebody says, hey, Dad, remember 283 00:18:42,559 --> 00:18:45,559 those old VHS tapes? Did you ever get them transferred? 284 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,599 And then the room gets all quiet. All eyes are 285 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,400 on Dad, who says, oh, you know, well, I've been 286 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,319 meaning to but I just having gotten around to it. Look, 287 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:57,599 don't let those priceless memories sit in a box for 288 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:58,200 another year. 289 00:18:58,240 --> 00:18:58,559 Speaker 1: All right. 290 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:01,039 Speaker 2: Create a Video has been and helping families in the 291 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:05,119 Charlotte area preserve their history since nineteen ninety seven. Simply 292 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,319 bring in your old camquarder tapes and Creative Video will 293 00:19:08,319 --> 00:19:11,720 transfer them to a USB flash drive for just fourteen 294 00:19:11,799 --> 00:19:14,279 ninety five per tape. You have a big collection, They've 295 00:19:14,279 --> 00:19:17,079 got a discount for you. And next year, instead of 296 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:21,559 talking about those memories, imagine gathering the family to watch 297 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,799 them together. Talk about a memorable gift. So do what 298 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:28,799 I did. Trust the experts at Creative Video, conveniently located 299 00:19:28,839 --> 00:19:31,079 in mint Hill right off I four eighty five and 300 00:19:31,279 --> 00:19:36,079 online at create avideo dot com. From the WBT text 301 00:19:36,079 --> 00:19:40,400 line driven by Liberty, Buick gmc bain asks, is this 302 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,400 Roy Cooper's Willie Horton? 303 00:19:44,079 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: Yeah? I think so. That's what I said yesterday. 304 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 2: And I think that's why you're seeing the reaction from 305 00:19:49,039 --> 00:19:51,039 so many people on the left, whether it's you know, 306 00:19:51,079 --> 00:19:57,160 the Rapid Response Team Cooper's campaign, Democrat Party media, but 307 00:19:57,279 --> 00:19:59,880 mostly it's the uh, it's the ground troops on so 308 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:06,319 social media. Think of them as like keyboard warriors, like 309 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:11,400 the keyboard version of the ice agitators up in Minneapolis. Right, 310 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,279 so they are all like mobilizing now to try to 311 00:20:14,319 --> 00:20:18,799 browbeat this story out of existence, to try to say, 312 00:20:18,839 --> 00:20:20,599 what about the j sixers, what about that? 313 00:20:20,599 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: What about this right? 314 00:20:21,279 --> 00:20:24,319 Speaker 2: To try to distract and deflect away from what was 315 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:31,119 celebrated by Cooper, celebrated by the ACLU and the NAACP 316 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:35,079 and the defund the police crowd, and the decarceration crowd. 317 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:41,160 These people celebrated this announcement five years ago. This was 318 00:20:41,559 --> 00:20:44,240 right on the heels of the BLM fiery but mostly 319 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:48,039 peaceful riots. This was after Cooper had set up his 320 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:52,279 Racial Justice Equity Task Force thing that then started providing 321 00:20:52,319 --> 00:20:55,519 guidance to magistrates and judges around the state about how 322 00:20:55,559 --> 00:20:57,759 to you know, look at a person's race before you 323 00:20:57,799 --> 00:21:00,039 throw them in jail, and if they are of the 324 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,839 right race, lock them up. If for the wrong race, 325 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,160 let them go. I mean, they weren't that explicit about it, 326 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,440 but that was like, we have to be mindful of this, 327 00:21:08,519 --> 00:21:11,960 and everybody understands what they mean when they say that stuff. 328 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:21,039 North Carolina before COVID, before this settlement, Okay, North Carolina 329 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:25,279 had the fewest number of people in its prisons since 330 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:31,240 nineteen ninety five, and with these releases, the population could 331 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:34,440 be as low as twenty five thousand people in six 332 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:39,440 months time. That is a one third reduction in the 333 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:47,279 population in the prisons since ninety five, that is twenty 334 00:21:47,319 --> 00:21:52,440 five years. Do you think wait, has North Carolina grown 335 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,880 in population in twenty five years. 336 00:21:56,279 --> 00:21:57,319 Speaker 1: I kind of feel like it has. 337 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,880 Speaker 2: I remember reading something about the explosive growth North Carolina 338 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,799 has seen. This is one of those things where it's like, 339 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:05,200 we have all these people, We got millions and millions 340 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,079 of new people that have moved in over the last 341 00:22:07,079 --> 00:22:12,119 forty years, and we don't keep building more jails. In fact, 342 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,680 we have the smallest jail population than we've had since 343 00:22:14,759 --> 00:22:19,839 ninety five. How does that make sense? Are we better 344 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:27,000 at preventing crime? No, this is a choice. It has 345 00:22:27,039 --> 00:22:32,240 always been a choice. This has been democrat priorities. So 346 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,759 before the pandemic even hits, we're at thirty four thousand, 347 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,160 they start mass releasing people, they get sued, they agreed 348 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:45,920 to mass release even more people, and as part of 349 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:50,680 the settlement there would be essentially a population cap for 350 00:22:50,759 --> 00:22:54,680 one year, so we would not albeit we would not 351 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:58,759 be allowed to incarcerate more than a certain amount of people. 352 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,960 If so, we would have to then accelerate more releases. 353 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,839 That was part of the settlement too. If the number 354 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,079 of people in prison goes up ten percent or more, 355 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,400 the prison system will have to quickly release people to 356 00:23:10,519 --> 00:23:15,240 prevent further crowding. Like that is a turnstile system. But 357 00:23:15,279 --> 00:23:18,359 this is after conviction. This isn't even pre trial stuff. 358 00:23:18,519 --> 00:23:24,160 This is after conviction. Finnholt, who is with one of 359 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:31,279 these leftist organizations, the Just Sentencing Project, he said that's 360 00:23:31,319 --> 00:23:35,359 not enough. Given that the prisons are experiencing a year's 361 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:39,400 long staff shortage exacerbated by the pandemic, more people should 362 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,279 be let out of prison. He doesn't even care what 363 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,279 their charges are. He doesn't care what the sentences are for. 364 00:23:46,319 --> 00:23:49,039 He doesn't care what the crimes were that they committed. 365 00:23:49,039 --> 00:23:53,000 It doesn't matter. This is decarceration. They do not believe 366 00:23:53,519 --> 00:24:01,480 in imprisoning anybody. One boon of the settlement for DPS 367 00:24:02,079 --> 00:24:05,000 is that the department keeps its authority over who it 368 00:24:05,079 --> 00:24:08,359 lets out through its early re entry programs. That power 369 00:24:08,799 --> 00:24:11,319 could have been taken away should the state have lost 370 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,440 the case at trial or in further preliminary rulings by 371 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:19,079 the judge. So they go to a friendly judge, they 372 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,279 get the judge to say keeping them in jail during 373 00:24:21,279 --> 00:24:27,920 COVID is unconstitutional. That then quote forces the settlement agreement, 374 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,279 and all the state does is they get to maintain 375 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:34,960 control over the method in which they release the people. 376 00:24:35,039 --> 00:24:37,119 So let's talk a little bit about that, because about 377 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:40,640 two weeks after that story. Okay, two weeks after that, 378 00:24:41,039 --> 00:24:46,720 we get this story from Travis Fain at WRL. Top 379 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:52,240 state prison officials started a second appearance before state lawmakers 380 00:24:52,519 --> 00:24:59,960 Tuesday with an apology. System leaders misled a legislative committee 381 00:25:00,039 --> 00:25:03,400 last week about a lawsuit settlement that'll bring early release 382 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,440 for about thirty five hundred state inmates and an overall 383 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,759 reassessment of the prison system's COVID nineteen prevention efforts. See, 384 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:15,559 lawmakers were told only non violent offenders would get early release, 385 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:22,759 when in fact, violent offenders will. Two prison officials said 386 00:25:23,079 --> 00:25:27,160 what they meant to say was no, violent offenders will 387 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:33,079 get out early through one of the release programs. However, 388 00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:40,279 they will get out through two other release programs, and 389 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:45,880 those two programs involve way more inmates. 390 00:25:46,559 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 1: Sorry about that. 391 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,319 Speaker 2: See so when yeah, so when we said we weren't 392 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,559 releasing any violent people, that actually was not the case. 393 00:25:53,599 --> 00:25:56,880 Actually most of the people were releasing are violent. Sorry 394 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:02,160 about that, our bad. This came from testimony by Prisons 395 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,079 Commissioner Todd Ishi in an hour and a half long 396 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,160 questioning on the settlement. He said, I wish to issue 397 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,400 an apology. I think when we left last week there 398 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:17,319 was some confusion based on the lies we told. The 399 00:26:17,319 --> 00:26:21,319 settlement has guardrails on release, though of course everyone involved 400 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,079 will already have a release date in twenty twenty one, 401 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,599 meaning that they would have gotten out this year. Regardless, 402 00:26:27,799 --> 00:26:31,200 the thirty five hundred early releases will be spaced out 403 00:26:31,839 --> 00:26:34,799 over as much as six months. Those releases will be 404 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:40,319 on top of fifteen hundred to seventeen hundred regular releases 405 00:26:40,759 --> 00:26:45,079 the system does each month as inmates, both violent and nonviolent, 406 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:50,720 finish their sentences. Lawmakers asked whether they could revisit this settlement. 407 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,480 Orlando Rodriguez, a lawyer for the Attorney General's Office who 408 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:58,640 worked on the case, said it cannot. Sorry settlement terms 409 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,559 close out the case and the terms are locked in. 410 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,880 Lawmakers ask detailed questions about those talks, which the Cooper 411 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:12,000 administration has said it can't answer because of the terms 412 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,640 of the settlement. We're not allowed to talk about any 413 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,079 of this. It was part of our agreement. You'll just 414 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,640 have to trust us, even if it turns out that 415 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:26,279 we are misleading you. Rodriguez did confirm, though, that the 416 00:27:26,279 --> 00:27:30,400 Attorney General, Josh Stein, was not personally involved in any 417 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:31,880 of the settlement negotiations. 418 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:32,640 Speaker 1: Can't have any of. 419 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 2: Josh's fingerprints on any of this stuff. No, no, no, 420 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,519 all right. If you're listening to this show, you know 421 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:39,599 I try to keep up with all sorts of current events, 422 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,720 and I know you do too, And you've probably heard 423 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,799 me say get your news from multiple sources. Why well, 424 00:27:45,799 --> 00:27:48,519 because it's how you detect media bias, which is why 425 00:27:48,559 --> 00:27:51,759 I've been so impressed with ground News. 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Subscribe through that link and you'll get fifteen 437 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,960 percent off any subscription. I use the Vantage plan to 438 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,440 get unlimited access to every feature. Your subscription then not 439 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,480 only helps my podcast, but it also supports Ground News 440 00:28:37,519 --> 00:28:40,119 as they make the media landscape more transparent. 441 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: All right, let me go over to the text line 442 00:28:42,759 --> 00:28:44,319 I guess let's say here. 443 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:55,519 Speaker 2: Bane following up, it's I it's ironic wanting to protect criminals. 444 00:28:55,599 --> 00:28:58,440 North Carolina Governor Cooper releases over three thousand inmates because 445 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,759 it wasn't safe for them to live in close quarters. 446 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,559 Then you have Governor Cuomo of New York. He wanted 447 00:29:03,559 --> 00:29:05,599 senior citizens to be saved from COVID, so he locked 448 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,759 them all together in nursing homes. Do you ever get 449 00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:10,920 the feeling liberal leaders look at people as cattle? 450 00:29:13,359 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: Again? 451 00:29:13,759 --> 00:29:16,559 Speaker 2: I would just like, I would just like for somebody 452 00:29:17,359 --> 00:29:22,160 to finally ask Governor Cooper, did you make a single 453 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,039 mistake in your response to COVID. 454 00:29:25,799 --> 00:29:28,039 Speaker 1: That's it. Let's just start there. It's an easy question. 455 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:33,799 Speaker 2: Looking back knowing everything you know now, If you knew 456 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,799 then what you know now, would you have done anything different? 457 00:29:36,839 --> 00:29:39,440 Did you make a single mistake in anything you did? 458 00:29:39,559 --> 00:29:42,400 I'm not talking about the challenges. I understand all that. 459 00:29:42,519 --> 00:29:44,440 I'm not talking about you know, a brand new virus, 460 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,440 nobody know what's going on. All that, I get all 461 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:52,039 of that. I gave Cooper a lot of leeway because 462 00:29:52,079 --> 00:29:54,920 he was dealing with something that we hadn't seen before. 463 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,640 Everybody was, so I try to give a lot of grace. 464 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,319 But the fact that after all these years he has 465 00:30:02,519 --> 00:30:06,200 never once been asked whether he made a single mistake. 466 00:30:06,359 --> 00:30:09,759 They have never identified this policy we did here may 467 00:30:09,799 --> 00:30:10,960 not have been the best policy. 468 00:30:12,759 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: Like that is. 469 00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:19,519 Speaker 2: That is shameful to the North Carolina media that covered it, 470 00:30:20,079 --> 00:30:24,920 that still cover him, that are covering it, like how 471 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,680 have you not asked any of these questions? Completely incurious? 472 00:30:28,759 --> 00:30:31,759 And see, this is why people are so worried, is 473 00:30:31,759 --> 00:30:38,400 that they recognize how damaging this is among normies, among 474 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,640 regular people that don't pay attention to politics. 475 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: They see some of this stuff. It's gonna be bad. 476 00:30:44,599 --> 00:30:49,359 Speaker 2: Our friend Andrew Dunn from long leave politics, he apparently 477 00:30:49,359 --> 00:30:51,279 got a hold of the of some of this list. 478 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:56,440 He said, the secret list of inmates freed includes fifty 479 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,960 one people who had been sentenced to life in prison. 480 00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,319 He has pulled their offender numbers and he's going through 481 00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:12,440 and getting the backgrounds. First up, Simon Ginopoulos, convicted of 482 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,240 second degree murder in nineteen eighty six, sentenced to life 483 00:31:15,279 --> 00:31:18,720 plus twenty six years. He and his brother were convicted 484 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,440 of killing a thirty year old Greensboro man who was 485 00:31:21,519 --> 00:31:24,160 tied up, gagged with a sock, beaten over the head 486 00:31:24,319 --> 00:31:28,839 with a coat rack and fireplace poker, and stabbed twenty 487 00:31:28,839 --> 00:31:32,119 four times in the back. Apparently these two brothers. The 488 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,359 older brother got mad when he found out the younger 489 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,240 brother was involved in a gay relationship with the victim. 490 00:31:39,359 --> 00:31:43,519 So the brothers go to the house. The victim welcomes 491 00:31:43,559 --> 00:31:46,319 them in because he has a relationship with the younger brother, 492 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:52,079 and they murder him. Where are you on that one, lefties? 493 00:31:54,519 --> 00:31:58,519 Where are you LGBTQ community? This was one of the 494 00:31:58,559 --> 00:32:07,160 guys the settlement list. How about Sheen Tou Jenkins, convicted 495 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,039 of the first degree murder of a Domino's pizza delivery 496 00:32:10,079 --> 00:32:12,960 man in high Point. The victim's father was devastated to 497 00:32:13,039 --> 00:32:18,599 hear that he had been released. This was out of 498 00:32:18,599 --> 00:32:24,640 the Davidson Correctional Center in Lexington. The victim Kevin Dean Hodgen, 499 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,079 thirty five year old Dominoes driver during an armed robbery 500 00:32:28,119 --> 00:32:33,279 outside the Domino store on Kirkwood Street, gunned down armed robbery. 501 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,079 Or how about Shannon McClintock, convicted of first degree rape 502 00:32:39,079 --> 00:32:41,599 and robbery and McDowell County in nineteen eighty four, he says. 503 00:32:41,839 --> 00:32:44,359 Andrew says, the details here are so horrific, I'm not 504 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:47,559 even going to repeat them. Local media reported he was 505 00:32:47,599 --> 00:32:50,680 granted parole in twenty nineteen, but the Department of Corrections 506 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,000 records say he was released in twenty twenty one after 507 00:32:53,039 --> 00:32:55,079 the settlement, So I'm not really sure what happened there. 508 00:32:56,559 --> 00:33:01,400 Fourth on the list Javier Alexander Mackler County, convicted on 509 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,079 two unrelated murders. But the doc shows that he's still 510 00:33:05,079 --> 00:33:07,519 in prison, so I'm not really sure why he would 511 00:33:07,559 --> 00:33:09,400 be on the list. You'd have to ask Roy Cooper 512 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,279 why he got counted as one of the thirty five 513 00:33:11,359 --> 00:33:15,759 hundred people freed. See again, what seems to be happening 514 00:33:15,759 --> 00:33:19,160 here is as I hear more of these cases. I 515 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,640 think the Cooper people pumped up the numbers. I think 516 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:28,640 they lied. I think they pumped up the numbers. Next 517 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,000 on the list Eric Johnson, convicted in ninety four first 518 00:33:32,039 --> 00:33:35,160 degree murder Vance County. He shot his twenty two year 519 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,200 old estranged wife in the head while lying while laying 520 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,920 in the mud in front of her mother. He received 521 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:48,079 a mandatory life sentence for the crime. Tony Hartzell convicted 522 00:33:48,119 --> 00:33:50,680 of first degree murder nineteen ninety five for beating and 523 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,440 stabbing to death his eighty four year old neighbor. Jerry Foreman, 524 00:33:54,559 --> 00:33:56,880 was shocked to hear he got released. Quote, he should 525 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,960 never be able to walk free, and we need to 526 00:33:59,039 --> 00:34:01,839 be protected in societ needs to be protected from somebody 527 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:06,759 like this. That's according to Queens City News. That's just 528 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:11,840 five of the fifty one life sentences that were on 529 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,920 the list in that settlement. Again, I asked, as I 530 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:21,599 asked yesterday, who made the list, Who made this list, 531 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,199 who put the people on the list, who approved it? 532 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: Was there any review. 533 00:34:29,639 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 2: Regarding the systems that were used to release people. They 534 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,320 had three methods to release prisoners under the settlement. One 535 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,440 was called extended limits of confinement or ELCS, and that 536 00:34:40,679 --> 00:34:44,119 is the one that would not include violent offenders, but 537 00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:47,880 the other two courses, the other two tracks that were 538 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:53,559 used did include violent offenders. They would get discretionary credits 539 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:59,039 like time removed off of their sentences for various reasons. 540 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,639 That's a long standing program, but it was accelerated by 541 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,480 the settlement, and it will include some violent defenders. And 542 00:35:06,559 --> 00:35:09,679 the third pathway for early release runs through the state's 543 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,840 parole system, which would include people now behind bars for 544 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,440 a violent crime. And that would have been the category 545 00:35:15,559 --> 00:35:18,320 that de Carlos Brown Junior was in, but he had 546 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:23,719 already gotten out under that track. He was on the 547 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:28,079 list to get out on that track, but he had 548 00:35:28,119 --> 00:35:31,719 already used the track to get out five months prior 549 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,119 and get re arrested and re released, even though he 550 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,159 violated a term of his parole, which was that he 551 00:35:38,199 --> 00:35:44,239 got arrested again. The process kicked in in October of 552 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,960 twenty twenty one, and only if North Carolina remains in 553 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,440 a state of emergency, if the federal government or governor 554 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:54,639 rescind the current state of emergency, or if twelve months pass, 555 00:35:55,039 --> 00:35:58,079 then that part of the settlement would be moot by 556 00:35:58,079 --> 00:36:02,239 the way the emergency the Roy Cooper's ed the emergency 557 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:09,679 Declaration that ended in August of twenty twenty two, eight 558 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,559 hundred eighty eight days we were under that. One note 559 00:36:13,559 --> 00:36:20,719 here from the settlement, this from section two b A 560 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:25,000 or B one A. I should say that they would 561 00:36:25,199 --> 00:36:27,639 provide this list. It shall be treated as the list 562 00:36:27,639 --> 00:36:32,239 of the inmates. The list shall be treated as attorney's 563 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,840 eyes only pursue it to the protective order entered in 564 00:36:36,039 --> 00:36:41,599 the litigation. Why why is this a secret? Why would 565 00:36:41,639 --> 00:36:44,800 you be trying to hide the people that you're releasing 566 00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,960 from prison? If it's such a great idea and you 567 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,639 want all this credit for the largest prison release in 568 00:36:49,679 --> 00:36:53,000 the country during COVID, Why can't the public know who's 569 00:36:53,039 --> 00:36:56,920 just been released out onto our streets? All right, that'll 570 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,599 do it for this episode. 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