Speaker 1: Of course this is show. And course we've got a
Speaker 1: special guest with us today, Tony Schaeffer. Tony, welcome back.
Speaker 1: It's really great to have you back. Tony. Of course
Speaker 1: I considered my go to national security experts. Tony, you
Speaker 1: have your own show, Tony, why don't we plug your
Speaker 1: own show for a minute.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm still guest hosting. I guess a semi permanent
Speaker 2: guest host of Ed Henry's Wake Up Patriots. We're on Mondays,
Speaker 2: Tuesdays and Wedndays, Chris Cordany and I. It's a lot
Speaker 2: of fun. We inform, educate and entertain. It's a lot
Speaker 2: you know. So you've been on it, Oh, I've been.
Speaker 2: I love being people people love.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, it's always it's always a great show to
Speaker 1: be on. And and Tony just gives some of your
Speaker 1: credentials in terms of your work. I know with the
Speaker 1: White House, you're working at national security, which is extensive.
Speaker 2: So I I'm a retired military case officer, which is
Speaker 2: official parlance for spy. I served thirty and a half
Speaker 2: years retired as a lieutenant colonel and at GS fourteen
Speaker 2: because I was in a special program just saying since
Speaker 2: before I retired. I was a whistle blower and something
Speaker 2: called Able Danger. Our friend Kurt Weldon had us all
Speaker 2: come out and disclose some of the activities that related
Speaker 2: to the fact we knew about the nine to eleven
Speaker 2: hijackers in this special program before nine to eleven and
Speaker 2: we were stopped from stopping them. More to come on
Speaker 2: that soon. Tucker Carlson and Kurt just had a interview,
Speaker 2: So we're gonna there's more coming on that. And then
Speaker 2: after I got out of the after I retired, I
Speaker 2: became worked a couple of different think tanks, ran the
Speaker 2: London Center for Policy Research. After my friend and mentor,
Speaker 2: doctor Herb London passed, I see what oh I did.
Speaker 2: I'm an actor and producer. I produced a series called
Speaker 2: Chain of Command for net GEO right there over my shoulder,
Speaker 2: acted in something called Spy's I. I also was the
Speaker 2: national skirt advisor for the Trump twenty twenty campaign. Little
Speaker 2: hint they didn't take my advice. They lost, just saying,
Speaker 2: so I can tell stories there, couldn't we Jerry, So.
Speaker 1: We can tell lots of stories there, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: And then most recently, I'm an elected official here in
Speaker 2: Chiwan County. I'm a county commissioner and I continue to
Speaker 2: do media and work for Newsmax as a contributor. So
Speaker 2: there you go.
Speaker 1: Well that's great, Thank you appreciate that I want to
Speaker 1: talk today. I've been writing a lot about and I'm
Speaker 1: doing podcasts on this port in Chile, this deep water
Speaker 1: port that it is being China now has a memorandum
Speaker 1: of understanding to buy the rights to develop it. My
Speaker 1: friend and co author, Todd Calendar, it has the rights
Speaker 1: to the port. That's through his investment group in Barbados,
Speaker 1: which is the Cottwold Group. It's an insurance investment group.
Speaker 1: And uh if this is a key strategic I think
Speaker 1: challenge for the Trump administration because China wants this port
Speaker 1: on the Pacific to be part of China's Belt and
Speaker 1: Road initiative, their landing spot in South America. And Trump's
Speaker 1: gonna have to act fast to get Rubio and gear
Speaker 1: Marco Rubio secretary of State in order to enter into
Speaker 1: the negotiations because it's possible to grab this port from
Speaker 1: China providing the United States makes an offer on it.
Speaker 1: And it's so twenty one. Don't we just begin there?
Speaker 1: Because I think you know the key I think awareness
Speaker 1: in terms of national security issues, and Chris Gordani is
Speaker 1: showing here where the port is located. It's strategically accessible
Speaker 1: to Argentina, two low gradient passes where the trucks can
Speaker 1: bring the produce from Argentina to these ports, and this
Speaker 1: port these ports, the copiate E Port goes directly on
Speaker 1: the Pacific to China, so it bypasses having to ship
Speaker 1: out of a port, and the Atlantic side of South
Speaker 1: America in Argentina go through the Panama Canal. This port
Speaker 1: will cut fifteen days from the trip to China and
Speaker 1: have major deep water access to all of South America.
Speaker 1: So again, I think the issue here is the strategic
Speaker 1: control of a resource that's important to our hemisphere and
Speaker 1: the national security implications if China gets this port. And
Speaker 1: what are your initial thoughts here, Tony.
Speaker 2: So yeah, there's three things going on that I think
Speaker 2: the Trump administration has to pay attention to. First is
Speaker 2: the fact that the Chinese essentially declared war on us,
Speaker 2: and for purposes of our conversation, that war includes economic
Speaker 2: and production of resources, of husband of resources controlling those resources.
Speaker 2: So this right here is a key issue relating to
Speaker 2: not only trade and not what the Chinese may need.
Speaker 2: Is the fact that the Latin America South American particular
Speaker 2: is one of our most reliable trading partners, and we
Speaker 2: need a lot of what they produce, so to the Chinese,
Speaker 2: by the way, So anything we can do to slow
Speaker 2: or degrade the Chinese ability to absorb resources, especially those
Speaker 2: that we want, is a good thing. And we are
Speaker 2: in a competition. It's a competition of civilizations, if you will.
Speaker 2: The Chinese have said that they want to eventually dominate
Speaker 2: a Pacific rim. This is part of the Pacific rim.
Speaker 2: They've already said in their own doctrine that that is
Speaker 2: a national objective and they will accomplish that objective through
Speaker 2: a series of business deals, commercial buyouts, and influence. They're
Speaker 2: first wanting to use soft power, buying people out, trying
Speaker 2: to obtain access to worts and resources for their own purposes,
Speaker 2: and then trying to push us out of the market.
Speaker 2: And as you said, the Belton Road thing is very important.
Speaker 2: That is the competition to the G seven, G twenty,
Speaker 2: whatever G you want to bring up, that's the alternative
Speaker 2: to it, and much of what we're trying to do
Speaker 2: right now, Jerry is to deter people from joining that.
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, I think India, it's one
Speaker 2: of the latest nations we've condensed to rethink their membership
Speaker 2: in that for a number of reasons which we don't
Speaker 2: that's probably a conversation for a different day. But to
Speaker 2: your point, this is an important physical location that the
Speaker 2: Chinese covet and would be able to take advantage of
Speaker 2: as part of their larger grand strategy. So set that
Speaker 2: as one factor. Secondly, regarding just the Trump doctrine, President
Speaker 2: Trump is now establishing a doctrine which is going to
Speaker 2: look a lot like the Monroe doctrine, and I would
Speaker 2: like to believe Jerry as we develop a strategy sp
Speaker 2: Hexteth and Marco Rubio look at this and keep in
Speaker 2: mind they've only been in office three months, so it's
Speaker 2: going to take some time. But part of what they
Speaker 2: have to do is take a step back, look at
Speaker 2: the big picture and recognize that they need to take
Speaker 2: elements of the Cold War regarding how Reagan approached the
Speaker 2: Cold War, regarding looking at the Soviet Unions evil empire.
Speaker 2: China is now that evil empire, so you've got to
Speaker 2: look at it kind of for that perspective. But more importantly,
Speaker 2: you've got to modernize the approach to look at how
Speaker 2: we can counter a near peer who was essentially said,
Speaker 2: we're going to take you on playing your own game
Speaker 2: economic destruction. Remember Jerry, you know this. We were able
Speaker 2: to essentially convince the Russians that as the strategic defense
Speaker 2: in issue was real, and we helped bankrupt them through
Speaker 2: a number of things that had them overspend, get over
Speaker 2: their skis, and then we helped also make them really
Speaker 2: really troubled by Afghanistan, by the war in Afghanistan. These
Speaker 2: things really had a big impact. And then plus we
Speaker 2: went about using Dallas, the TV Dallas and other media
Speaker 2: to undermine uh Soviet people, the Soviet people's resolve regarding
Speaker 2: thinking that we're we were evil And you know, this
Speaker 2: is something that I think is really not appreciated. The
Speaker 2: Russians wanted to, oh, we want to import and show
Speaker 2: Dallas to show people how corrupt the Americans are. It's like, no,
Speaker 2: all the Russians wanted to become become America.
Speaker 1: They das right.
Speaker 2: So so in this case they're they are. The Chinese
Speaker 2: are using similar items against us, but they're they're they're
Speaker 2: using destructive methods to do it against us. So they're
Speaker 2: trying to buy Hollywood. One of the biggest things they
Speaker 2: bought in control is Hollywood. Their propaganda is now injected
Speaker 2: directly into the American mainstream via Hollywood. So we've got
Speaker 2: to put a stop to this. So what I'm saying
Speaker 2: is we we need to learn the lessons of how
Speaker 2: we won in the past, and how some of those lessons,
Speaker 2: some of those techniques are now being focused back on
Speaker 2: us by the Chinese. So that's part two. This port,
Speaker 2: the strategy that includes this port has to be included
Speaker 2: in this modified Monroe doctrine that becomes a Trump Trump doctrine.
Speaker 2: So those two things are related. Third, and I think
Speaker 2: probably simply put, is having the political will and foresight
Speaker 2: to take action ahead of time. This Jerry is a
Speaker 2: point of engagement that has to be recognized sooner than later.
Speaker 2: So this is where I hope this is something that
Speaker 2: gets to the higher priority list of what they're doing
Speaker 2: right now, and that way they can recognize that through
Speaker 2: this one example, they need to start looking at the
Speaker 2: other two things that I just outlined so.
Speaker 1: Well, the I mean, if you take a look at
Speaker 1: the Monroe doctor and which of course was President Monroe
Speaker 1: who early on said that, you know, the western hemisphere
Speaker 1: was our sphere of influence. Right now on the foreign
Speaker 1: and nation we're not going to be welcome to take
Speaker 1: positions in our hemisphere. And now down Trump doctor, which
Speaker 1: I think is a good way to recharacterize the twenty
Speaker 1: first century Monroe doctor, and he President Trump is saying, well,
Speaker 1: you know, we really ought to be involved with Greenland.
Speaker 1: It could become a protectorate or something. And by the way,
Speaker 1: Canada should be the fifty first state. So there we
Speaker 1: are reaching all the way to the Arctic. And then
Speaker 1: his visions extending down south. We just recently have Argentina
Speaker 1: agreeing to take a naval port down at the tip
Speaker 1: of Argentina that China wanted and Malay has said no,
Speaker 1: the United States will have that port. Now Chile with
Speaker 1: this deep water port, you know, which is could handle.
Speaker 1: It's really got tremendous advantages in that it's a thirty
Speaker 1: meters natural deep water port. You don't need a dredge
Speaker 1: to accommodate these China Mas cargo ships, which can accommodate
Speaker 1: eight more cargo than if you're taking ships out of
Speaker 1: the the eastern coast, the Atlantic coast of South America.
Speaker 1: So you know this is you know, this port essentially
Speaker 1: will function to tremendously enhance China's ability not only to
Speaker 1: bring its goods into Latin America, also take agriculture produce
Speaker 1: from Argentina, which China desperately needs in food. And also
Speaker 1: Argentina and and even Chili are very very rich in lithium.
Speaker 1: Chili Chile, I think the world leader in lithium export
Speaker 1: right now. And so therefore, between the lithium and other
Speaker 1: rare earth minerals that you get in Latin American South America,
Speaker 1: that's certainly something that China covets controlling. Yeah, no matter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, on that point, Jerry, if I could just jump
Speaker 2: in real quick, so yeah, no matter what happened. I'm
Speaker 2: not a green energy guy, neither of you. No, obviously,
Speaker 2: I always promote your book, Uh, thank you, Yeah, I
Speaker 2: always say, because while I don't promote it, we still
Speaker 2: have a growing twenty first century economy that requires batteries. Right,
Speaker 2: we can't not live with batteries. So even with the
Speaker 2: current pace of just expansion of technology, computers and other things,
Speaker 2: we're going to continue to have to have a steady
Speaker 2: supply of lithium and other rare earths. That's something we
Speaker 2: should corner. And this is what I don't understand, and
Speaker 2: this is where I hope the Trump folks are paying attention.
Speaker 2: We have to recognize that not only through tariffs. Once
Speaker 2: we reduce the ability of China to basically hold us
Speaker 2: captive to rare earths and technology, we have to develop
Speaker 2: our own. So to your point, Jerry, this needs to
Speaker 2: be one of the places we partner with to have
Speaker 2: access unencumbered, uninterrupted access to rare earth for purposes of
Speaker 2: re establishing our own production of technology within the United States.
Speaker 1: Yes, I see it also like a similar national security issue.
Speaker 1: I mean, the absolutely the globalists, the left wants our
Speaker 1: borders open so that we can have an influx of
Speaker 1: you know, illegal immigrants. And of course now the Democratic
Speaker 1: Party is supporting even the Venezuelan MS thirteen elements in
Speaker 1: the United States. They're their new poster children. But the
Speaker 1: same thing of opening not getting these ports, it's allowing
Speaker 1: China to command all the export and resources from South America.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like a loss of sovereignty again that
Speaker 1: in other words, you know, these are resources that impact
Speaker 1: our ability to remain America first. And just like the
Speaker 1: tariffs are going to make it harder for us to
Speaker 1: ship all of our jobs to China. Mean, this whole
Speaker 1: free trade was all about one way, one way transfer
Speaker 1: a capital out of the United States, transfer manufacturing jobs
Speaker 1: out of the United States, and a destruction of the
Speaker 1: middle class. And again, if we're going to have America first,
Speaker 1: we've got to secure our borders. But we also have
Speaker 1: to make sure that we contain and think about these
Speaker 1: ports and other natural resources of infrastructure that we need
Speaker 1: to maintain in US control. I mean, if we're down
Speaker 1: at the Panama Canal, why aren't we also concerned about
Speaker 1: this port in Chile? And you know, so just on
Speaker 1: that national sovereignty issue, just on the issue of you know,
Speaker 1: the Trump doctorate, expanding the Monroe doctor and thinking about
Speaker 1: our hemisphere security in a world.
Speaker 2: What are the first things I do if I were
Speaker 2: Repete and I'm not he's much better looking at me,
Speaker 2: just saying, but if I repeat hex deaths, one of
Speaker 2: the things I would do is I would get together
Speaker 2: a group of people like you and me, some smart
Speaker 2: generals like General Raisin Kane, a few other folks who
Speaker 2: understand the nature of our talks. Go to the War
Speaker 2: College or Navy work call. I mean, go to one
Speaker 2: of the colleges. I like Carlisle. I'm an Army guy.
Speaker 2: I love Carlisle Barracks, the Army War College and discuss
Speaker 2: how to come up with a Trump doctrine. This would
Speaker 2: be something that's formalized and implemented across the board. It
Speaker 2: take about six months to do. You could do this,
Speaker 2: and I think that the very thing you're saying, Jerry,
Speaker 2: should be essentially the five bullet points, you know, expanding
Speaker 2: our sphere of influence, expanding our our sphere of nations
Speaker 2: who are essentially part of the Republic. Go about doing
Speaker 2: that and make it a policy. And by the way,
Speaker 2: you got three years into work it, and I think
Speaker 2: it would be very helpful. But that should be a
Speaker 2: roadmap going forward. So again, they should have an off site.
Speaker 2: You could do this in three days easy, get it
Speaker 2: all kind of laid out, go through, establish the framework,
Speaker 2: agree upon it, and then implet it. And I think
Speaker 2: this would help everybody understand how important this really is
Speaker 2: for the American world.
Speaker 1: I think this, I think it's a great idea. I mean,
Speaker 1: and the look, you have to look at these things
Speaker 1: globally in the sense that things are reconfiguring. Right now.
Speaker 1: We're getting a reconfiguration China with the Belton Road initiative,
Speaker 1: and now they have this maritime initiative, which is also
Speaker 1: they're saying, well, you know, it's good to have the
Speaker 1: Belton Road where you can put roads, but where there's ocean,
Speaker 1: you better have a maritime Belton Roads exactly.
Speaker 2: And they're out producing a ship wise. They have something
Speaker 2: like an order of magnitude more ship capacity building than
Speaker 2: we do.
Speaker 1: And they control about one hundred and sixty nine ports
Speaker 1: around the world, largely in the Southern hemisphere, I mean
Speaker 1: across Africa and across the Red Sea and the Gulf
Speaker 1: of Acaba in the h you know, all the way
Speaker 1: over to China. China is just seeing this. You know
Speaker 1: this the southern Southern Hemisphere, which is rich in resources
Speaker 1: and economically was always the Third World, is as fertile
Speaker 1: for them to develop this maritime empire, right and access
Speaker 1: these resources, the earth, minerals and other resources that these
Speaker 1: countries have, right, and you know, we're not strategically that.
Speaker 1: The other consideration that I've had is that you know,
Speaker 1: both Russia and China are militarizing the Arctic, yes, and
Speaker 1: doing it very fast as well as outer space, and
Speaker 1: Antarctica is not far away from that. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: when you start looking at you know, the Western hemisphere
Speaker 1: as our sphere of influence, it's going to need that
Speaker 1: kind of a vision in order to compete with Russia,
Speaker 1: which is looking at the Bricks Nations, and China, which
Speaker 1: is looking at the Belton Road initiation. It is, so,
Speaker 1: you know, these are what concerns me is that you know,
Speaker 1: I know TODM. Calendar very well is a strong patriot,
Speaker 1: and he desperately is trying to get the attention of
Speaker 1: Rubio in the State Department to pay attention to this port.
Speaker 1: But with everything else going on, you know, it's how
Speaker 1: do we get the attention of the State Department to
Speaker 1: focus on this and a timely fashion, because China's got
Speaker 1: a memorandum of understanding in place. China as if one
Speaker 1: is going to press to close this, especially since they
Speaker 1: know we're making an issue of it. Yeah, well, I
Speaker 1: got to get you to the right people.
Speaker 2: Well, I think we need to. You know, this is
Speaker 2: an ever grip the fact that we're having this discussion.
Speaker 2: It's become something we can socialize, which we will. And secondly,
Speaker 2: you know, I think we should somebody. There's some people
Speaker 2: I think that probably could pick this up and say
Speaker 2: something to President Trump about it as well. What I
Speaker 2: found so far is that, again three months in, you
Speaker 2: don't have a comprehensive bench to go to. There's a
Speaker 2: few folks i'll just be blunt that know what they're doing,
Speaker 2: Telsea Gabbert, you know, Pete, a few others secretaries, but
Speaker 2: they haven't been able to really establish a bench they
Speaker 2: can go to to get things done. They can't turn
Speaker 2: to someone and say, hey, go do this. So this
Speaker 2: is where President Trump is very important right now. Try
Speaker 2: to get it to his level. So he says this
Speaker 2: is a priority, go do something about it. I think
Speaker 2: the bench will develop. It's going to take him a
Speaker 2: while because I'll be again blunt, there's resistance. There is
Speaker 2: an organized resistance in all directorates, every department of the
Speaker 2: government trying to fight the Trump agenda. So it's tough
Speaker 2: because you've got to fight the swamp, and you got
Speaker 2: to not only get the swamp, protect yourself. You've got
Speaker 2: to start looking over the horizon to things like this,
Speaker 2: and that's where the challenge is to get the right
Speaker 2: people to pay.
Speaker 1: Attention, especially when it's time sensitive, especially when China is
Speaker 1: going to grabbed this before anybody in the United States,
Speaker 1: Before the Trump administration is really firmly set in place.
Speaker 1: Within each department, you've still got I mean, Trump has
Speaker 1: maybe fired ten percent of the federal not enough.
Speaker 2: Not near enough, not especially the leadership level. Jerry, They've
Speaker 2: got to go down at least another two levels and
Speaker 2: get rid of folks before they're going to be able to.
Speaker 1: Be And these people will come and tell you that
Speaker 1: they're loyal to Trump, that they're here doing important work,
Speaker 1: and when you start looking at what they have been doing,
Speaker 1: you can see what they've been doing is you know,
Speaker 1: selling the country out to China. Right with the Biden administration.
Speaker 1: How much money Biden took from China and Mitch mcconnall
Speaker 1: enrunching himself with China, you know, and so China not
Speaker 1: easy to come and buy us politicians and has been
Speaker 1: doing it systematically.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: In the meantime, they're very actively building relationships and natural
Speaker 1: resources and infrastructure that once it's gone, it's how were
Speaker 1: we going to get that port back once it's gone
Speaker 1: to China, China starts restricting scary action.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I get your point. I get your point completely.
Speaker 2: So it's it's something that's going to be very difficult.
Speaker 1: But it's got to be done. In other words, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm writing articles about this to make it clear that
Speaker 1: we have to start paying more attention to South America.
Speaker 1: And Milai is a very good ally in South America.
Speaker 1: But again, we've neglected so much of South America. You know,
Speaker 1: we've got Argentina, which is now turning in the right direction,
Speaker 1: but you've still got Venezuela, You've still got Brazil, You've
Speaker 1: got other countries Colombia producing drugs, you still have Mexico.
Speaker 1: And Trump's going to have a lot to do to
Speaker 1: turn these countries in an economic direction. Now, the combination
Speaker 1: of what Trump is thinking about with you know, doing
Speaker 1: future payments for natural resources. Maybe get a company like
Speaker 1: Morgan Stanley in here, begin developing options, go futures twenty
Speaker 1: thirty eight years out on killing in lithium. You can
Speaker 1: generate wealth simply by creating the futures trading on those resources.
Speaker 1: And Trump begins to combine this kind of creative finance
Speaker 1: work with the fact that we want to help these
Speaker 1: countries develop. I'm finding in the Middle East, in in Africa,
Speaker 1: we even had the Congo saying we'll come in here
Speaker 1: and settle our civil war, just just give us some
Speaker 1: options on our natural resources. These countries are desperate to
Speaker 1: have development and to have economic progress being made. Look
Speaker 1: at l Salvador. It's turning El Salvador around from the
Speaker 1: home of MS thirteen to now being where they're willing
Speaker 1: to take MS thirteen captives and you know, murderers, mother rapers,
Speaker 1: father rapers, baby rapers, all the worst scum of the
Speaker 1: earth and willing to imprison them. And you know it's
Speaker 1: our lawfare that's in the way of blocking this yah
Speaker 1: And so therefore the resistance is still there. And for
Speaker 1: Trump to have his own team in place, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm concerned about, you know, Pam Bondi, whether she's going
Speaker 1: to be effective enough. I remember her compromising in the
Speaker 1: Zimmerman case and apporting special counsel. She seems to not
Speaker 1: have the resolve to tell the you know, the radical
Speaker 1: left that they're insane. As insane as they are. You know,
Speaker 1: we got Ben Holland out having margaritas with MS thirteen terrorists,
Speaker 1: and you know in El Salvador, I'm worrying about whether
Speaker 1: they had judicial review before they were deported is insanity.
Speaker 1: These are not citizens. And again the the left, the
Speaker 1: left will not go easily into the night. It's going
Speaker 1: to have to be beaten. And what Don Doge is
Speaker 1: doing with taking his money away is vital. Take the
Speaker 1: money away.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think that's why you see it diminished
Speaker 2: tempo of protests, and you see older people, no offense
Speaker 2: to us being older, right, showing up because the youth thing,
Speaker 2: showing up because theyin't get paid. And you get people
Speaker 2: like Jamie Raskin and other Democrats who should probably be
Speaker 2: keeping their mouthshup because I think if I were the president,
Speaker 2: I'd try to remove their pardon because I don't think
Speaker 2: it's worth the paper was auto pinned on just saying
Speaker 2: and I think that'd look at them because you know
Speaker 2: him and Chris van Holland, these people are engaged in
Speaker 2: the national security and foreign affairs issue which they do
Speaker 2: not have the authority to be engaged in. And I
Speaker 2: think if I were Pam BONDI I'd be looking seriously
Speaker 2: at the well, I don't know, maybe the Logan Act
Speaker 2: violation is something to start with.
Speaker 1: You know, well, I think this interference, this entire lawfair interference,
Speaker 1: is going to raise issues. If you've got district judges
Speaker 1: or issuing national injunctions, they have an effect across national policy.
Speaker 1: There's a simple solution. There's two some solutions that there Judiciary.
Speaker 1: Number one is Donald Trump can introduce into the Congress
Speaker 1: a plan to reorganize the district and circuit courts, and
Speaker 1: that planet passed, will make all existing federal judges who
Speaker 1: have lifetime appointments if they don't if their courts are gone,
Speaker 1: they don't have lifetime appointments. So you can reappoint the
Speaker 1: entire federal judiciary with the new Federal Judiciary Reorganization Act.
Speaker 1: And secondly, even that would be an excellent way to
Speaker 1: and therefore establish that the district courts are you know,
Speaker 1: primary jurisdiction and are not to exceed their reach. And
Speaker 1: they have the circuit courts. We have circuit courts in
Speaker 1: every state instead of having circuit courts that are over
Speaker 1: a group of states, so that each state has a
Speaker 1: circuit court to appeal to, and then it goes to
Speaker 1: the to the Supreme Court. I mean, you could have
Speaker 1: a restructuring that limits jurisdiction and redefines the function of
Speaker 1: these courts and thereby get rid of all these soro
Speaker 1: supported judges. In one fell Swool.
Speaker 2: Well, there's no legality for these courts to have the
Speaker 2: sweeping authority Jerry. They just kind of absorbed it and
Speaker 2: decided that they took it. And to me that that
Speaker 2: means that you know that there's ample reason to say
Speaker 2: nobody ever gave you the authority to universally inflict your
Speaker 2: your belief on the executive because that's what the that's
Speaker 2: what happens here. You have individual judges who have a
Speaker 2: limited scope being able to essentially override an entire branch
Speaker 2: of the government single handed. I don't know that is problem.
Speaker 1: And what you've got here increasingly is that, you know,
Speaker 1: go back to the constitutional structure of the courts. When
Speaker 1: the Constitution was there was a debate of the Federal's
Speaker 1: papers between Jefferson and Hamilton. Hamilton, of course, always wanted
Speaker 1: stronger government. Jefferson was constantly afraid of government power, and
Speaker 1: so Jefferson was deeply afraid of what he called judicial tyranny,
Speaker 1: where the judges would take it upon themselves and say
Speaker 1: here's the law, and everybody has to obey it. And
Speaker 1: so the key issue a debate was whether or not
Speaker 1: the judiciary would have enforcement powers, and Jefferson won that debate.
Speaker 1: The courts do not have enforcement power. I mean, what
Speaker 1: is Justice Roberts, who, by the way, is constantly mouthing
Speaker 1: off at his country club, and the people are talking
Speaker 1: about this from that country club, how much he hates Trump,
Speaker 1: which I think is a very bad idea for Justice
Speaker 1: Roberts to be blabbing his mouth and openly expressing bias
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: Well, he's a Bush guy, so I'm not surprised.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you know, he marginally a Bush guy.
Speaker 1: He was a globalist to begin with. And I was
Speaker 1: involved in that because if you remember, I was the
Speaker 1: one who largely exposed Harriet Myers, who Bush first nominated
Speaker 1: for her role in that Texas lottery scandal, George Bush's
Speaker 1: role in the Air National Guards. It got rid of
Speaker 1: Harriet Myers, and then we get John Roberts, supposed to
Speaker 1: be a conservative, but John Roberts constantly voted for you know, Obamacare.
Speaker 1: The final analysis, I mean, Trump could say you know,
Speaker 1: that's a nice opinion of Justice Roberts, but I'm not
Speaker 1: doing it. What's Justice Roberts going to do? You gonna
Speaker 1: stream to the Washington Post.
Speaker 2: Andy Jackson say no to the courts?
Speaker 1: Well, there's been a number of justice that number of
Speaker 1: presidents just said no to the courts and just did
Speaker 1: not do what they told them to do, just ignored it.
Speaker 1: You know, that's fine opinion, But what are you going
Speaker 1: to do about it? Yeah, and again there's nothing basically
Speaker 1: that they can do to the president because what we're
Speaker 1: talking about here, and Chris, I like you to go
Speaker 1: to the slide before that. Chris is showing some of
Speaker 1: the sides. I want to comment on one, but just
Speaker 1: keep it there for a minute, Chris. I'll describe it.
Speaker 1: But the point I'm making is that the Article two
Speaker 1: powers of the president are the strongest enforcement power of
Speaker 1: the Constitution gives. He's the only the legislature has no
Speaker 1: enforcement power except for the purse. That can defund things
Speaker 1: if they don't like them, or fund things if they
Speaker 1: like them. But even if the Congress funds that the
Speaker 1: president is not required to spend it. We can have
Speaker 1: recision clawbacks of funding from Congress. But the point is,
Speaker 1: and if you take a look at this map that
Speaker 1: Chris is showing, which is Tony, it's the Pacific Ocean
Speaker 1: and the trade routes now which are going across into
Speaker 1: China and Asia. So you know this, these are extensive,
Speaker 1: and they're reaching into Southeast Asia. China's reaching into India,
Speaker 1: it's reaching into the Gulf of Akaba and the Red Sea.
Speaker 1: China can control that whole South Asia part of the globe.
Speaker 1: And China's also buying ports in Australia. So China's control
Speaker 1: of the Pacific is I mean, Japan is fading in
Speaker 1: terms of significance over China, and it's only amount of
Speaker 1: time China decides to take Taiwan or try to take Taiwan.
Speaker 1: They took Hong Kong. Yeah, at some point. Now, under
Speaker 1: the powers of Commander in Chief, Donald Trump has extraordinary powers.
Speaker 1: Here on the lawfair to limit his powers. I think
Speaker 1: his power lists when it comes to commander in chief authority.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm also looking very hard at the executive
Speaker 1: order of Trump issued on the voting and the fact
Speaker 1: that the Department of Homeland Security has now taken the
Speaker 1: lead Telsea Gabbard Director National Intelligence, making voting fraud and
Speaker 1: security issue given the penetration of China into the computers
Speaker 1: of the state boards of election. China's admitted to penetrating
Speaker 1: our infrastructure with again, so we know the state boards
Speaker 1: of election have algorithms written into them. And so Trump
Speaker 1: is saying, how do we know it's not China cyber attacks? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Telsey Gabbart saying, we know our election machines are
Speaker 1: being penetrated, including the ones inside the state boards of election.
Speaker 1: That implies who's doing it. Well, these are national security
Speaker 1: issues under Article two powers of the Commander in Chief,
Speaker 1: and what the court thinks about that is irrelevant.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, let me pick up on that a little bit, Jerry.
Speaker 2: So part of my issue has been is that the
Speaker 2: prior administration and the Democrats in general are completely open
Speaker 2: to influence because they're essentially for sale. That you mentioned yourself,
Speaker 2: Joe Biden, he was bought many of the leaders, Adam
Speaker 2: schiff Swallwell, you know these people are all literally well
Speaker 2: some are in bed, some are in the tank literally
Speaker 2: literally and bitterly literally literally. And I'm being a bit
Speaker 2: funny about it, but I'm not. I mean it's true.
Speaker 2: And so what we have to recognize is they have
Speaker 2: been successful and penetrate not only our voting system, they've
Speaker 2: to your point, bought the best politicians available. So this
Speaker 2: is why it's important. The Chinese are not blessed with
Speaker 2: the natural resources and gas and oil we have. We
Speaker 2: could essentially decide, yeah, we're going to shut ourselves off.
Speaker 2: We're going to just stay Western hemisphere only Canada, Central America,
Speaker 2: Latin America will be fine. China can't do that. China
Speaker 2: does not have the gas and oil necessary for its
Speaker 2: billions of people. It doesn't have food and water for
Speaker 2: its billions of people. They are desperate. So that and
Speaker 2: that desperation has helped inform their nationalism. They are far
Speaker 2: more nationalistic than they are communistic. At this point, they
Speaker 2: are imperial. It's an imperial nation. It should be that
Speaker 2: the people's imperial Nation of China, not the People's Republic
Speaker 2: of China. Just saying, if you actually study what they're
Speaker 2: doing and who they are, and it's a oligarch, they
Speaker 2: got oligarchs, I think we could say that.
Speaker 1: Right. Sure, it's a typical communist country of the modern
Speaker 1: All the people are equally poor, okay. It is based
Speaker 1: upon slave labor. It is dependent. The reason China's maritime
Speaker 1: power is they have no choice, and so therefore China
Speaker 1: doesn't get a structure where they get all the capital
Speaker 1: to build the factories, and then we buy the goods
Speaker 1: from them while allowing them to impose tariffs on our goods.
Speaker 1: This is what free trade has come down to be.
Speaker 1: Free trade is just another, you know, another nice name
Speaker 1: for the reality behind it, which is we're letting China
Speaker 1: take over the world, and we're complicit in it as
Speaker 1: long as China pays the politicians like Biden to do it,
Speaker 1: or runs the sex and drug parties and films everybody Epstein.
Speaker 1: And we still don't have all the Epstein data. We
Speaker 1: don't have all the he did. He still waiting, okay.
Speaker 1: And what's all this with pedophilia? I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: the pedophilia seems to come up all over the place,
Speaker 1: you know. And and this is the combination of evils
Speaker 1: that we've got the Trump has gone to combat. It's
Speaker 1: not just bringing people back to God. It's dealing with
Speaker 1: the you know, satanic origins of MS thirteen, the satanic
Speaker 1: nature of their rituals, the satanic nature of this child's
Speaker 1: sex trade, the drugs. I mean, you know, you can't
Speaker 1: convince me that the CIA. You couldn't run the drug
Speaker 1: trade without the CIA's involvement because they need a bank
Speaker 1: money launder.
Speaker 2: I think Tulsea's going to expose all that too, I
Speaker 2: really do. I think Tulca's on a good part. But
Speaker 2: by the way, speaking of pedophilia, did you know that
Speaker 2: when the pope dies, they use a silver hammer to
Speaker 2: hit him in the head three times alive. I'm not
Speaker 2: joking about that.
Speaker 1: Well, I know they do well, they do things like that,
Speaker 1: but this pope was LGBT to the core and on
Speaker 1: the church. Catholic Church has unfortunately become either a homosexual
Speaker 1: or pedophilia supporting organization, and it's it's tragic what's happened
Speaker 1: since Vatican Two. I've been very close to Archbishop Bigattal
Speaker 1: and I've raised Catholic and now that the Pope has
Speaker 1: died of course or decided it was time to kill
Speaker 1: him finally and get the next one in there, which
Speaker 1: they're rushing to do the conclave so the LGBT cardinals
Speaker 1: can control how things are done before the others from
Speaker 1: around the world arrive and if the Church remains LGBT.
Speaker 1: And by the way, Vance was meeting with the Pope
Speaker 1: the day before he died or the day he died.
Speaker 1: And with the amount of corruption between Biden, McCarrick, the
Speaker 1: Vatican and Honduras which I've been writing about and will
Speaker 1: continue to expose, you know, we don't need to look
Speaker 1: at the Catholic Church anymore as what it used to be.
Speaker 1: This is a you know again, an LGBT corrupted organization.
Speaker 1: You seem a charac there with Pope you know, Pope
Speaker 1: friend there Obama and Pope Francis. I mean, Paul Francis
Speaker 1: was totally on the you know, the climate change hoax,
Speaker 1: every leftist hope.
Speaker 2: About the day on the other show, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: You know, and he was not.
Speaker 2: He was not.
Speaker 1: At the true liturgy of the Catholic Church. When you
Speaker 1: are introducing the you know, this new modern Mass, you're
Speaker 1: introducing all the the reaching out, the Sonadyl movement, reaching
Speaker 1: out to the marginalized groups, which means making a place
Speaker 1: in the Catholic Church for transgenders, transvestites and every other
Speaker 1: sexual freak I can want to imagine. Yeah, Okay, rather
Speaker 1: than saying that these are sins against God's nature of
Speaker 1: you know, they aren't, and so they amount that has
Speaker 1: to be cleaned up here is tremendous. How Donald Trump
Speaker 1: has done a great job of messaging. But the job
Speaker 1: that has to be done now is to dig down
Speaker 1: into these institutions and root the evil out. And that's
Speaker 1: where DOGE is so important, because we take their money away,
Speaker 1: they all die. Without the money, they're not going to survive.
Speaker 1: And you know, again I'm on this theme of making
Speaker 1: sure we appreciate how important this this port is because
Speaker 1: it's going to happen quickly. It's going to have to
Speaker 1: someone's going to have to intervene or China's going to
Speaker 1: get on that we're talking about it, and China's going
Speaker 1: to start upping the pressure to do the to complete
Speaker 1: the transaction, to go from an mL random understanding to
Speaker 1: an actual final agreement. Okay, now I want to cover
Speaker 1: one more point before we wrap up, and that is
Speaker 1: that in nineteen seventy two, when Nixon and Kissinger went
Speaker 1: to China, you know, their professed hope was that we
Speaker 1: would get China into the world economy and therefore China
Speaker 1: would become a more nation, a nicer neighbor that they
Speaker 1: weren't going to become like Russia was the Soviet Union
Speaker 1: at that time, which we viewed as a professed enemy.
Speaker 1: Now as opposed to what Nixon did, you know, you see,
Speaker 1: Reagan came in and the other point of all the
Speaker 1: mixes you made this, you know, having Star Wars, spending,
Speaker 1: you know, the Russia and Afghanistan and expanding resources. Also
Speaker 1: very important was that Reagan took control of oil, and
Speaker 1: oil was reduced to about nineteen dollars a barrel, and
Speaker 1: that was Russia's revenue. Reagan essentially bankrupt Russia exactly, and
Speaker 1: China could be easily bankrupt, you know. I mean, China
Speaker 1: does not have the resources we do in terms of
Speaker 1: economic activity. You pull the plug on a slave labor
Speaker 1: and say, we're going to bring making semiconductors back to
Speaker 1: the United States, and you know, and Nike shoes and
Speaker 1: everything else we're making over there with tariffs, and there's
Speaker 1: no reason why we can't make the apple, you know,
Speaker 1: cell phones here in the United States.
Speaker 2: Or in Vietnam or India. I mean, we have other
Speaker 2: alternative trading partners who would be better partners. To be honest,
Speaker 2: with you and that within the context of that, Yeah,
Speaker 2: we had the Straits of Malacca, which is a choke
Speaker 2: point where the Chinese depend on Middle East oil coming
Speaker 2: to them on a free and regular bases. You've got
Speaker 2: the South China Sea, the East China Sea. These are
Speaker 2: all fished heavily because the Chinese need protein for people.
Speaker 2: These are all points of weakness Jerry, that I don't
Speaker 2: think the Chinese fully appreciate and we haven't reminded them of.
Speaker 2: And I've said I would be very harsh. It's probably well,
Speaker 2: I'll never be working again in the Pentagon, but I
Speaker 2: would be very harsh when dealing with the Chinese on this.
Speaker 2: I would remind them on a daily basis, you cannot
Speaker 2: survive more than a couple of weeks without Middle Eastern oil.
Speaker 2: You cannot survive if the Philippines, the Vietnamese, the uh
Speaker 2: the Taiwanese, South Koreans, Japanese all get together and decide
Speaker 2: they're not going to permit you to fish in the
Speaker 2: in the part of the ocean they consider theirs just
Speaker 2: saying and these are all these are all vulnerabilities which
Speaker 2: we don't remind them of and try to use to
Speaker 2: lag and.
Speaker 1: Their economy falls apart without without US exporting all our
Speaker 1: manufacturer them and other countries exporting all the manufacturing to them. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I think the key element here is how do
Speaker 1: we get this information to President Trump and to others
Speaker 1: so that they can begin to see an act upon it,
Speaker 1: because this is just too important. You know, China also
Speaker 1: has a port in Peru, you know, north of this
Speaker 1: port in Chile, and so China is positioning with control
Speaker 1: over the Panama Canal, a major port in Peru, and
Speaker 1: wanting this port in Chile. China's going to control shipping
Speaker 1: out of South America all the way from the Panama
Speaker 1: Canal down to nearly Argentina. And we just can't let
Speaker 1: that happen right now.
Speaker 2: Right well, I think Pete has already Pete Hexteath has
Speaker 2: already made the policy, uh directive, I don't know what
Speaker 2: you want to call it. He's basically working with Panama.
Speaker 2: That was the first I think required reacquisition, if you will,
Speaker 2: and I think that's well in the right. I think
Speaker 2: again there needs to be a strategy and hopefully this
Speaker 2: will stimulate discussion at the Pentagon, at the State Department
Speaker 2: for US to actually embrace understanding how to partner with
Speaker 2: Latin American countries like this and take control of this,
Speaker 2: because you know, now's the time to get that done. So, yeah,
Speaker 2: you've got Panama great. Now it's time to go further
Speaker 2: south and get it all the way down. So I
Speaker 2: think by talking about this, by having us getting to
Speaker 2: the right people, Jerry, I think we can help make
Speaker 2: sure that this becomes policy within the Trump administration. Yeah.
Speaker 1: If Hank Sath is aware of this, and it would
Speaker 1: not take much to become aware of it. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: certainly Marco Rubio will get it, you know, the idea
Speaker 1: of our control of the hemisphere to micro Rubio, whose
Speaker 1: roots are in Cuba and understands what happens when foreign
Speaker 1: nations take over a country in the Western Hemisphere experienced
Speaker 1: at firsthand family escape Cuba. Okay, so therefore communism is
Speaker 1: not a stranger to Marco Rubio and he should also
Speaker 1: be aware of the need to But the State Department,
Speaker 1: our State Department has spent the last you know, since
Speaker 1: I guess since Clinton doing everything they can to open
Speaker 1: our borders to invite in criminals and others into our
Speaker 1: country to make sure non citizens vote. You know, to
Speaker 1: abandon our sovereignty with you know, not respect the fact
Speaker 1: that the United States as a nation state, the whole
Speaker 1: idea of nation state was repugnant to these people, right.
Speaker 2: And beyond that, the State Department became the implementer of
Speaker 2: of organizations that encourage foreign nations to collect intelligence on us,
Speaker 2: like the British and turn the round against us, as
Speaker 2: well as organizations within State Department which actually practiced propaganda
Speaker 2: encountering truth. They became essentially the Ministry of truth, like
Speaker 2: described in George orwell as nineteen eighty four. So that's
Speaker 2: being stopped as we speak. And let's hope I never
Speaker 2: respects myself. The State Department became essentially a tool against
Speaker 2: the American people.
Speaker 1: Well, I want to thank you, Tony. I wanted to
Speaker 1: get your perspective on this because your your background and
Speaker 1: you know, understanding of national security and foreign affairs is
Speaker 1: essential to understanding exactly what's going on here. And if
Speaker 1: we can communicate this to the Trump team, I'm sure
Speaker 1: appropriate to absolutely.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, thank you very much. I greatly appreciate that. Thank you,
Speaker 1: Thanks Jerry, Okay, thank you, and say and the ND
Speaker 1: God always wins. God will win here too, and well,
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