WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:04.679 How'd you spend your weekend? Everybody'd you have? Did? Did 2 00:00:04.719 --> 00:00:07.480 you spend it? I saw a lot of our listeners 3 00:00:07.919 --> 00:00:11.039 just because you know, it populates into my timeline, especially 4 00:00:11.080 --> 00:00:15.919 over on Facebook Twitter. I don't people get mad, They're 5 00:00:15.960 --> 00:00:18.039 all right, followed the show account, you didn't follow me back. 6 00:00:18.519 --> 00:00:21.480 I understand that. But we based the show accounts basically 7 00:00:21.559 --> 00:00:24.239 populated the way that it is. So it's also a 8 00:00:24.280 --> 00:00:28.679 newsfeed to make my job easier, so it's not personal. 9 00:00:28.679 --> 00:00:32.479 But over on Facebook, obviously it's a different situation. And 10 00:00:33.640 --> 00:00:39.439 the amount of people that are, you know, clearly fans 11 00:00:39.479 --> 00:00:41.320 of the show or have been. I don't know, maybe 12 00:00:41.359 --> 00:00:44.920 I irritated them at one point, but whose weekend was 13 00:00:45.000 --> 00:00:49.640 not going to the beach, hitting the you know, grilling 14 00:00:49.679 --> 00:00:53.560 out with the fan, but rather literally going to western 15 00:00:53.560 --> 00:00:56.719 North Carolina or in some way, shape or form supporting 16 00:00:56.759 --> 00:01:03.280 relief efforts there, doing church fundraisers and like that kind 17 00:01:03.280 --> 00:01:06.719 of amazing, kind of amazing what people like people will 18 00:01:06.719 --> 00:01:08.480 step up and do even in the face of this. 19 00:01:08.640 --> 00:01:11.760 So I thought it would be a good use of 20 00:01:11.799 --> 00:01:18.200 my weekend. And I have one of those personalities where 21 00:01:18.359 --> 00:01:21.680 if I decide I'm gonna deep dive something it becomes 22 00:01:21.799 --> 00:01:26.439 almost unhealthy. I'm sure that. I'm sure that's some sort 23 00:01:26.480 --> 00:01:30.159 of like obsessive compulsive thing, But that's okay. It aids 24 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:32.920 me in my job. And I really set out over 25 00:01:32.959 --> 00:01:36.879 the weekend to do two things. One, try to get 26 00:01:36.879 --> 00:01:41.359 a handle not on the stealing lithium mimes or things 27 00:01:41.439 --> 00:01:44.280 like that, and if that's your thing, just don't even 28 00:01:44.319 --> 00:01:49.359 send me your study. If that happens, we'll cover it, okay, 29 00:01:49.159 --> 00:01:56.560 But rather really looking into the response, the timeline and 30 00:01:58.840 --> 00:02:02.519 you know, taking into a count first person narratives to 31 00:02:02.719 --> 00:02:06.719 reporters and how impactful that is one way or the other, 32 00:02:07.159 --> 00:02:10.400 and how the media chooses to use it too. And 33 00:02:10.439 --> 00:02:13.439 then and this was the more difficult part, I did 34 00:02:13.439 --> 00:02:17.080 a deep dive of Katrina, right, because that's kind of 35 00:02:17.120 --> 00:02:26.879 the example of Malfeasan's laziness in an aptitude in popular 36 00:02:27.000 --> 00:02:32.319 lore as it pertains to Hurricane Katrina, and specifically the 37 00:02:33.240 --> 00:02:36.240 victim under the bus. There was the former FEMA director 38 00:02:37.080 --> 00:02:42.919 Michael Brown or Brownie as he loathes being called by 39 00:02:42.960 --> 00:02:45.360 George Bush during the press conference, which really got that 40 00:02:45.400 --> 00:02:50.560 thing rolling. But and it's positively eye opening. And then 41 00:02:50.879 --> 00:02:53.240 while I'm doing that, I have to ingest a steady 42 00:02:53.240 --> 00:03:00.599 stream of articles from from you know, w R and 43 00:03:00.680 --> 00:03:03.759 the New York Times and all of that. So that's 44 00:03:03.759 --> 00:03:07.120 how the media component got in there. Everything's you know, basically, 45 00:03:07.199 --> 00:03:11.319 everything's everything's fine. It's a bunch of conspiracy theories. And 46 00:03:11.360 --> 00:03:13.439 then they'd be like, look, Tom Tillis said this, well, 47 00:03:13.479 --> 00:03:15.360 you know what we think of Tom Tillis on this show, 48 00:03:16.840 --> 00:03:20.439 and you know the governor of Tennessee said this, well, yeah, 49 00:03:20.439 --> 00:03:22.719 but he has a vested interest in it appearing that 50 00:03:22.759 --> 00:03:25.599 everything's going fine because some of it's over in his state. 51 00:03:27.639 --> 00:03:33.159 So so yeah, it was positively eye opening. Let me 52 00:03:33.240 --> 00:03:36.919 just hit you with a little fun fact there, because 53 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:42.520 it's interesting how we remember things who had the responsibility 54 00:03:42.560 --> 00:03:47.639 to evacuate New Orleans, who had the power and the 55 00:03:47.680 --> 00:03:50.319 responsibility to evacuate New Orleans, because that's one of the 56 00:03:50.319 --> 00:03:53.400 things that gets hung around the now. And I want 57 00:03:53.439 --> 00:03:59.319 to be clear, you're dealing with two fundamentally different situations. 58 00:03:59.680 --> 00:04:04.759 Yes they're both hurricanes, but you have a much more compacted, 59 00:04:04.840 --> 00:04:09.800 identifiable population center with Katrina in the in the city 60 00:04:09.800 --> 00:04:11.800 of New Orleans. It's not to say that Mississippi and 61 00:04:11.840 --> 00:04:15.680 Alabama didn't and even I think a little part of 62 00:04:16.079 --> 00:04:21.879 Texas didn't suffer you know, substantial damage. But the meat 63 00:04:22.040 --> 00:04:24.040 of what you were dealing with there from a concern 64 00:04:24.120 --> 00:04:26.800 standpoint was the city of New Orleans, which lay square 65 00:04:26.879 --> 00:04:32.959 in the state of Louisiana. And it is this is 66 00:04:33.040 --> 00:04:36.000 about what the Feds can do versus what state government 67 00:04:36.040 --> 00:04:39.639 can do. And this is this is really an important component. 68 00:04:40.399 --> 00:04:46.079 First and foremost, prior to Katrina and up to I 69 00:04:46.120 --> 00:04:49.959 think about a year after, the federal government could not 70 00:04:50.680 --> 00:04:57.800 evacuate a population center. You know that, right, because now 71 00:04:57.800 --> 00:05:01.560 you can now and and there are certain there's a 72 00:05:01.600 --> 00:05:04.800 lot of hoops, but it was because of the inability 73 00:05:04.800 --> 00:05:07.839 of the Feds to be able to evacuate New Orleans 74 00:05:07.839 --> 00:05:10.480 that they actually changed the law, because prior to that 75 00:05:11.360 --> 00:05:13.879 it would have essentially been you know, sending the military's 76 00:05:13.879 --> 00:05:16.399 posse comma tatus man. And I don't know if you 77 00:05:16.480 --> 00:05:19.600 know this, the Constitution takes a dim view. How they 78 00:05:19.639 --> 00:05:22.360 were able to achieve it, you can think is dubious. 79 00:05:22.720 --> 00:05:24.800 But they were not in a position to do that. 80 00:05:26.319 --> 00:05:29.639 So that's number one who who wouldn't do it. That 81 00:05:29.680 --> 00:05:32.079 would be the governor Blanco at the time, and Ray 82 00:05:32.120 --> 00:05:35.720 Nagan the and in pray it really would have fallen 83 00:05:35.759 --> 00:05:37.920 within the governor, but Ray Nagan, of course, who was 84 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:40.920 the mayor of New Orleans. In fact, Nagan only came 85 00:05:40.959 --> 00:05:45.000 around on evacuating the city the morning of the night 86 00:05:45.079 --> 00:05:48.639 that had hit. And by then all the planes are 87 00:05:48.639 --> 00:05:50.360 out of there, They're gone all the you know, the 88 00:05:50.360 --> 00:05:53.040 airlines have taken every plane out of the airport there. 89 00:05:53.959 --> 00:06:01.160 Amtrak had suspended service basically throughout the state of Louisiana. 90 00:06:01.199 --> 00:06:03.079 And if you remember the pictures of all the school 91 00:06:03.079 --> 00:06:06.839 bus school buses that went underwater, most of the people 92 00:06:06.839 --> 00:06:09.240 who did a lot of the people who did evacuate, thankfully, 93 00:06:09.279 --> 00:06:11.920 a lot of people did. Also included a lot of 94 00:06:11.959 --> 00:06:15.959 school bus drivers. So that was number one. Number two, 95 00:06:16.959 --> 00:06:19.480 how is the media portraying this? If you watch the 96 00:06:19.560 --> 00:06:22.360 media for the most part, and they go and they 97 00:06:22.439 --> 00:06:28.040 talk to various people, they're talking to and playing people 98 00:06:28.040 --> 00:06:31.160 who I don't feel represent the majority of what I'm 99 00:06:31.199 --> 00:06:33.560 seeing on social media. Now, granted there's going to be 100 00:06:33.639 --> 00:06:36.360 a bias there on social media, but if you look 101 00:06:36.399 --> 00:06:39.120 at it, can you still see which accounts and account 102 00:06:39.120 --> 00:06:41.959 follows On Twitter? I challenge you to go and look 103 00:06:41.959 --> 00:06:46.079 at the show account which is primarily my primary Twitter feed, 104 00:06:47.199 --> 00:06:52.319 and you'll see that we follow all of the junk 105 00:06:52.319 --> 00:06:55.600 news organizations in my opinion, We follow RAO, we follow 106 00:06:55.639 --> 00:06:57.439 the New York Times. We fought because I want to 107 00:06:57.439 --> 00:07:03.680 know what everyone's reporting. But famously, one of the stories 108 00:07:03.759 --> 00:07:07.839 that really drove things forward from a media narrative was 109 00:07:08.079 --> 00:07:12.319 Anderson Cooper in a boat with it going and finding 110 00:07:12.360 --> 00:07:15.920 this family and you know, sitting there with them for 111 00:07:16.040 --> 00:07:18.639 hours and going, where's the rescue, where's the help? And 112 00:07:19.079 --> 00:07:21.360 this is a failure on the part of Bush. What 113 00:07:21.480 --> 00:07:25.439 people don't tell you is that Anderson Cooper had actually 114 00:07:25.439 --> 00:07:28.800 requested of FEMA to be able to ride in one 115 00:07:28.839 --> 00:07:32.240 of the rescue boats, which Michael Brown did turn down, 116 00:07:33.160 --> 00:07:36.759 his reasoning being that the rescue boats have a minimum 117 00:07:36.879 --> 00:07:40.279 number of crew to facilitate their operation, and the rest 118 00:07:40.279 --> 00:07:42.720 of the spots in the boat are for bumpah bah 119 00:07:42.759 --> 00:07:48.040 bum victims right who they're attempting to rescue. And it 120 00:07:48.120 --> 00:07:50.680 was explained to Cooper really the whole system and they 121 00:07:50.680 --> 00:07:55.560 were using a grid system there, meaning unfortunately, because it's 122 00:07:55.560 --> 00:07:59.000 a grid system, it may work the most efficiently, but 123 00:07:59.240 --> 00:08:01.399 depending on where you are, you may be on the 124 00:08:01.439 --> 00:08:05.759 inefficient side from a time perspective of the grid, is 125 00:08:05.800 --> 00:08:07.560 this too much on a Monday morning? Because I am 126 00:08:07.720 --> 00:08:13.000 bursting with information? And so what did Cooper do? He 127 00:08:13.079 --> 00:08:16.160 got his own boat, He got his he hired a 128 00:08:16.199 --> 00:08:18.800 guy in his own boat, and then went to the 129 00:08:18.879 --> 00:08:21.240 part of the grid that was explained to him was 130 00:08:21.279 --> 00:08:25.639 not first he went. He went to the part of 131 00:08:25.680 --> 00:08:29.800 the grid where they would be working around towards on 132 00:08:29.879 --> 00:08:33.519 the backside, because that's the reality there, there's no good choices. 133 00:08:35.000 --> 00:08:38.200 You got to go out and do this stuff. And 134 00:08:38.679 --> 00:08:41.600 he you know, he famously had that shot and no 135 00:08:41.720 --> 00:08:44.200 not to lene of him in a canoe fake shot. 136 00:08:44.240 --> 00:08:48.480 Another one he loves. He loves floodstuff for making big news. 137 00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:54.200 But Cooper that turned into the caused ajure. Look at 138 00:08:54.200 --> 00:08:55.960 these people on the roof of their house. Look at 139 00:08:56.000 --> 00:08:59.240 these people and he'd rescued and only CNN can fine them. 140 00:09:01.039 --> 00:09:03.799 And Michael Brown I read a piece that he wrote 141 00:09:03.879 --> 00:09:05.879 years later, and he said that he feels that one 142 00:09:05.919 --> 00:09:09.120 of his biggest mistakes was not to pacify and accommodate 143 00:09:09.159 --> 00:09:13.480 the media. So following the Anderson Cooper report, Time magazine 144 00:09:13.480 --> 00:09:16.480 decided they were going to descend upon him, and they 145 00:09:16.480 --> 00:09:20.639 did and they said that he lied on his resume. Also, 146 00:09:20.840 --> 00:09:25.120 Trent Lott, the former senator from Mississippi, threw him under 147 00:09:25.120 --> 00:09:27.919 the bus because they had a hospital ship that they 148 00:09:27.919 --> 00:09:31.720 wanted a position off the coast of Louisiana, and Trent 149 00:09:31.759 --> 00:09:34.159 Lott wanted it off the coast of Mississippi. And they're 150 00:09:34.200 --> 00:09:37.519 just like, the devastation is far worse than Louisiana. That's 151 00:09:37.519 --> 00:09:41.279 where're going to put our resources. And eventually Lot made enough, 152 00:09:42.600 --> 00:09:45.799 the thing ended up in Mississippi. He went above his head. 153 00:09:48.679 --> 00:09:51.480 So Time Magazine gets a hold of this. They questioned this, 154 00:09:51.600 --> 00:09:53.799 and they say that he lied about being an adjunct 155 00:09:53.879 --> 00:09:56.799 law professor. They just run the piece. It starts a 156 00:09:56.840 --> 00:10:00.759 congressional hearing. Well, it turns out he didn't wan, and 157 00:10:00.799 --> 00:10:03.480 in fact, there were sworn affidavits from literally everyone in 158 00:10:03.519 --> 00:10:06.879 the food chain on his former jobs. And eventually Time 159 00:10:06.960 --> 00:10:11.000 magazine sources they had to report quote felt that it 160 00:10:11.120 --> 00:10:17.000 was what they said was mischaracterized by the reporter. All 161 00:10:17.039 --> 00:10:20.159 of these things propelled forward, and all of these things 162 00:10:20.679 --> 00:10:25.320 the media was just salivating at the trough over right, 163 00:10:26.440 --> 00:10:32.159 and things changed dramatically when you then get into what 164 00:10:32.200 --> 00:10:37.720 we're talking about now, like where is the media curiosity 165 00:10:37.879 --> 00:10:41.279 for the timeline. We don't have to get into the 166 00:10:41.320 --> 00:10:45.720 crazy stuff. If this was a Republican president, the timeline 167 00:10:45.799 --> 00:10:49.480 of the federal response would be significant. And let me 168 00:10:49.559 --> 00:10:53.600 just let me just reacquaint you with the timeline. Okay. One, 169 00:10:55.399 --> 00:10:59.559 the devastation in North Carolina primarily took place on the 170 00:10:59.600 --> 00:11:04.159 twenty seventh of September. They made landfall the day before. 171 00:11:04.159 --> 00:11:06.039 Obviously it took a day to get to us. Okay, 172 00:11:08.240 --> 00:11:10.759 what do you think the federal response on the twenty eighth? 173 00:11:10.960 --> 00:11:19.519 Was you hear that silence, that's it? Twenty ninth, hear 174 00:11:19.559 --> 00:11:26.679 that silence, that's it, thirtieth yet more silence? Surely on 175 00:11:26.759 --> 00:11:30.639 October first, right, I mean, there's no way on October 176 00:11:30.639 --> 00:11:36.080 first we wouldn't begin an actual federal response to this 177 00:11:36.159 --> 00:11:39.080 thing one that is showing now. And I want to 178 00:11:39.120 --> 00:11:42.159 be clear here when I say federal response, I'm talking 179 00:11:42.200 --> 00:11:48.879 about the military folk who literally have a team or 180 00:11:48.879 --> 00:11:51.879 at least an organized I don't even know how to 181 00:11:51.919 --> 00:11:55.639 say it. They have a plan for this. Okay, So 182 00:11:55.879 --> 00:12:00.120 how do you go about figuring out, you know, the timeliness. 183 00:12:00.600 --> 00:12:03.320 I think it changes once you find yourself with a 184 00:12:05.399 --> 00:12:07.679 with a plan that is predetermined, and good on them 185 00:12:07.679 --> 00:12:13.440 for that October first, not a October second. President Biden 186 00:12:13.519 --> 00:12:17.039 mobilizes the military. Now again there's National Guard and then 187 00:12:17.080 --> 00:12:19.440 there's the military side, which in two thousand and six 188 00:12:19.519 --> 00:12:23.080 became a thing, largely due to the criticism of Brown 189 00:12:23.080 --> 00:12:28.960 and Katrina. That's when he decided to mobilize the military. 190 00:12:29.000 --> 00:12:31.759 It was the next day that five hundred soldiers started 191 00:12:31.759 --> 00:12:35.240 to do what they were doing. October fourth was just 192 00:12:35.399 --> 00:12:41.159 in process. Okay, nobody's moving. October fifth, five hundred more 193 00:12:41.159 --> 00:12:44.759 soldiers are added for search and rescue. This is how 194 00:12:44.759 --> 00:12:47.320 you get videos of soldiers sitting down there on Bragg going, 195 00:12:47.360 --> 00:12:49.720 what are we doing? Can we go? We got to 196 00:12:49.759 --> 00:12:57.639 go do something. So of that timeline that roughly about 197 00:12:57.679 --> 00:13:00.480 a week and a half timeline, what you say is 198 00:13:00.519 --> 00:13:02.480 you saw half of those days. There wasn't a lot 199 00:13:02.519 --> 00:13:07.480 going on, not from a federal perspective. And I think 200 00:13:07.480 --> 00:13:10.240 it's okay to ask questions about this people, Oh, you're 201 00:13:10.279 --> 00:13:14.879 being political these Oh. And also the super Dome was 202 00:13:14.919 --> 00:13:18.399 another one that was Ray Nagan's decision. In fact, FEMA 203 00:13:18.440 --> 00:13:21.919 told him, no, that wouldn't work. People needed to get 204 00:13:21.919 --> 00:13:24.080 out of there. But Nagan didn't want to evacuate the 205 00:13:24.120 --> 00:13:26.480 city because he thought if they evacuated it turned it 206 00:13:26.519 --> 00:13:31.200 didn't turn out bad, it would kill his chances. Little 207 00:13:31.240 --> 00:13:34.799 did he know it was the absolute corruption within him 208 00:13:34.840 --> 00:13:39.120 that killed his chances. But and when you look at 209 00:13:39.120 --> 00:13:41.279 these two things and you set them side by side, 210 00:13:41.320 --> 00:13:44.759 you ask yourself, how am I not How can I 211 00:13:44.840 --> 00:13:47.399 not say that there's politics at play here once again, 212 00:13:47.960 --> 00:13:50.960 when it's so easy and clear to see, even if 213 00:13:51.000 --> 00:13:54.000 it's on the part of the media, and especially if 214 00:13:54.039 --> 00:13:57.519 it's on the part of the media. Ross always checks 215 00:13:57.519 --> 00:13:58.960 when I sent him a link to stuff when he's 216 00:13:58.960 --> 00:14:00.720 putting it in there, because sometimes I'll send a story 217 00:14:00.720 --> 00:14:03.799 and I don't notice it's like six months ago or 218 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:06.000 something like that. Well, he had to be Uh, he 219 00:14:06.039 --> 00:14:08.039 had to be surprised yesterday because I was sending them 220 00:14:08.039 --> 00:14:12.960 stories from like two thousand and seven. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, yeah. 221 00:14:13.000 --> 00:14:15.000 Once you figure out where I'm going with this, you 222 00:14:15.039 --> 00:14:17.320 figure it out, you would not. Are you all sitting 223 00:14:17.360 --> 00:14:18.879 down this morning. I'm gonna need you to go ahead 224 00:14:18.879 --> 00:14:22.320 and take a seat this morning, because you're not gonna 225 00:14:22.320 --> 00:14:22.799 believe this. 226 00:14:23.720 --> 00:14:23.840 Uh. 227 00:14:25.360 --> 00:14:29.840 Wr L was all over this. They were absolutely wr L. 228 00:14:29.919 --> 00:14:31.759 I used as a local example along with the New 229 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:37.559 York Times. They were absolutely fixated on timelines, timelines that 230 00:14:37.639 --> 00:14:40.120 were much more compact than what we're seeing right here. 231 00:14:41.360 --> 00:14:45.399 And they wrote story after story after story, man. And 232 00:14:45.399 --> 00:14:48.080 that's fine, right, as long as they're being accurate with it. 233 00:14:48.120 --> 00:14:51.480 It's gonna be up to people to go ahead and 234 00:14:51.879 --> 00:14:59.600 you know, decide how they feel about this stuff. Let's 235 00:14:59.639 --> 00:15:04.919 see here at some of the headlines here. Yeah, well 236 00:15:05.000 --> 00:15:06.320 let me do that. I'm just looking up at the 237 00:15:06.320 --> 00:15:08.559 clock here, all right. Well, actually, hold on, So here's 238 00:15:08.639 --> 00:15:10.799 Ril from two thousand and eight. This is when John 239 00:15:10.840 --> 00:15:15.240 McCain went down there. I remember John McCain was, you know, 240 00:15:15.399 --> 00:15:20.039 positioning to be the next president at that time. But 241 00:15:21.200 --> 00:15:25.039 Wril dutifully followed his trip down to New Orleans, placing 242 00:15:25.080 --> 00:15:27.320 as much blame as he could on Republicans and then 243 00:15:28.480 --> 00:15:36.759 obviously obviously it uh, you know, it's stuck. So you 244 00:15:36.799 --> 00:15:38.639 know what, I don't want to hear this garbage. Some 245 00:15:38.720 --> 00:15:41.039 of you have have sent emails You're just say, why 246 00:15:41.039 --> 00:15:44.399 don't we wait for this? No? No, I'm not going 247 00:15:44.440 --> 00:15:47.639 to you know why, because this is going to propel 248 00:15:47.720 --> 00:15:51.159 some of these things forward. And I also I need 249 00:15:51.200 --> 00:15:53.080 to know why the media was so willing to sit 250 00:15:53.120 --> 00:15:55.519 there in a duck boat with Anderson Cooper and decide 251 00:15:55.559 --> 00:15:57.639 that this is the reality of things on the ground. 252 00:15:58.360 --> 00:16:01.840 And now don't listen to the local citizens because their 253 00:16:01.879 --> 00:16:04.320 liars is what I hear. So we'll get into more 254 00:16:04.320 --> 00:16:07.279 of this coming up. Hang on. You know, normally on 255 00:16:07.320 --> 00:16:10.679 Monday I talk about let's see, oh yeah, the the 256 00:16:11.080 --> 00:16:15.360 Vikings going and conquering the UK. That's if you went 257 00:16:15.440 --> 00:16:18.879 over there, right, you're in charge. I'm not sure how 258 00:16:18.960 --> 00:16:22.399 that works, but but no, I've just been and even 259 00:16:22.399 --> 00:16:24.279 this morning, I'm sitting here and I'm reading up on 260 00:16:24.320 --> 00:16:29.440 this stuff and what I found incontrovertible. Among the opinions 261 00:16:29.480 --> 00:16:32.960 of this piece that former female director Brown wrote is 262 00:16:33.039 --> 00:16:38.399 he said one of his biggest regrets was not accommodating 263 00:16:38.440 --> 00:16:41.679 the media. And I told you what happened where during Katrina, 264 00:16:42.080 --> 00:16:44.279 they Cooper wants them to literally drive him around in 265 00:16:44.320 --> 00:16:46.879 a rescue boat, so Anderson Cooper he and his team 266 00:16:46.919 --> 00:16:49.279 can film and they said, no, the seats in there 267 00:16:49.279 --> 00:16:53.480 are for victims and we're doing a grid system. They 268 00:16:53.480 --> 00:16:56.240 were all explained. So he and a cameraman rented a 269 00:16:56.240 --> 00:16:59.600 boat and went to the place they knew was last 270 00:17:00.120 --> 00:17:05.119 the grid system. That was intentional, and they you know, 271 00:17:05.119 --> 00:17:07.559 they taught, they talked to this family and then yes, 272 00:17:07.640 --> 00:17:11.799 they did rescue them themselves, but it created this whole 273 00:17:11.880 --> 00:17:14.319 narrative and it just spun from there. So if the 274 00:17:14.359 --> 00:17:17.240 media is willing to inject themselves there, and I pulled 275 00:17:17.240 --> 00:17:21.200 the old stories, WRL within days was running stories about 276 00:17:21.240 --> 00:17:24.880 ineptitude within the federal response. Why didn't they evacuate him 277 00:17:24.920 --> 00:17:28.640 pointing the finger at George Bush. Never mind the fact 278 00:17:28.640 --> 00:17:33.200 that legally it would have been a constitutional violation of 279 00:17:33.240 --> 00:17:41.759 posse commatatis to actually forcially evacuate a city, which is 280 00:17:41.839 --> 00:17:45.119 they've they've tweaked the law now I'm not sure how, 281 00:17:45.240 --> 00:17:50.640 but they have that would allow them, and they went 282 00:17:50.759 --> 00:17:54.519 in a very ideological directive almost immediately while people quote 283 00:17:54.559 --> 00:17:59.640 unquote were literally still dying. So excuse me, I reject 284 00:17:59.680 --> 00:18:03.680 all of your little you know, your stories over the week. Oh, 285 00:18:03.720 --> 00:18:07.359 the real story is the misinformation that's floating around out there. Well, 286 00:18:07.400 --> 00:18:12.400 that's every natural disaster. That's unfortunately a component of things, 287 00:18:12.440 --> 00:18:15.160 and a lot of it is a component because people 288 00:18:15.200 --> 00:18:19.799 are scared, people are seeing their lives upended. So when 289 00:18:19.839 --> 00:18:23.480 somebody lives in a town in North Carolina and they're 290 00:18:23.519 --> 00:18:27.160 seeing stuff where FEMA is saying that they won't come 291 00:18:27.200 --> 00:18:31.440 out and inspect a home because there's a road closed sign, 292 00:18:32.559 --> 00:18:35.720 even though you the homeowner, pointing to your house down 293 00:18:35.759 --> 00:18:38.279 the road and saying and your vehicles are clearly there, 294 00:18:39.160 --> 00:18:42.440 and they're saying, well, we can't go there. People are going. 295 00:18:42.680 --> 00:18:44.160 And you can go ahead and make an argument why 296 00:18:44.160 --> 00:18:47.119 they shouldn't. Maybe the road's closed because it's not structurally sound. 297 00:18:47.200 --> 00:18:51.319 That's a good argument. But to sit the simply sit 298 00:18:51.359 --> 00:18:54.279 there and go all these people are lunatics or they're 299 00:18:54.400 --> 00:18:56.240 even if you don't think they're lunatics, you just say, well, 300 00:18:56.240 --> 00:18:59.200 they're scared. So what they're saying is not true. How 301 00:18:59.240 --> 00:19:05.519 are you dism missing thousands of first person accounts as misinformation? 302 00:19:06.480 --> 00:19:10.319 It's misinformation if I send a story to Ross that 303 00:19:10.519 --> 00:19:13.359 it turns out to not be true, right, and we're 304 00:19:13.359 --> 00:19:17.400 not up in it. People explaining their first hand accounts, 305 00:19:18.640 --> 00:19:20.680 and maybe you investigate and you find out that they 306 00:19:20.680 --> 00:19:24.279 weren't being truthful. But oh, by the way, Time magazine 307 00:19:24.319 --> 00:19:27.000 wasn't truthful about Michael Brown, and they got the whole 308 00:19:27.039 --> 00:19:30.240 thing ended up in congressional investigations, So don't give me 309 00:19:30.319 --> 00:19:33.200 this garbage. And you ran the very same articles touting 310 00:19:33.240 --> 00:19:35.599 what Time was saying. You know why because I can 311 00:19:35.599 --> 00:19:37.119 go back and look it up on the internet and 312 00:19:37.200 --> 00:19:42.000 I did. You were a purveyor of misinformation, So don't 313 00:19:42.000 --> 00:19:45.799 give me that garbage. And first person accounts of reporting 314 00:19:46.279 --> 00:19:50.000 were exactly what drove the very famous Anderson Cooper boat 315 00:19:50.039 --> 00:19:55.720 rescue story. And you were more than happy to dig 316 00:19:55.759 --> 00:20:00.160 into Trump over Puerto Rico. Well, the storm was still happening. 317 00:20:01.920 --> 00:20:06.880 So on the long list of institutions that are seemingly 318 00:20:07.000 --> 00:20:14.559 letting people down, throw yourselves on there anyone in this state, 319 00:20:14.680 --> 00:20:18.319 within within the within the media apparatus of this state 320 00:20:18.400 --> 00:20:22.079 that doesn't have doesn't ask themselves why are there so 321 00:20:22.160 --> 00:20:25.200 many days of just crickets within the federal response, Let's 322 00:20:25.240 --> 00:20:28.839 go ahead and dig into that, or why are thousands 323 00:20:28.839 --> 00:20:33.559 of people saying this thing that contradicts what the spokesperson 324 00:20:33.759 --> 00:20:36.160 for you know, for one of the government agencies is 325 00:20:36.160 --> 00:20:41.759 telling you in an interview room and does why does 326 00:20:41.880 --> 00:20:45.119 a local member of the legislature there's a reply I 327 00:20:45.119 --> 00:20:47.880 can't remember which one it was, who essentially put an 328 00:20:47.920 --> 00:20:50.880 email out saying Hey, you guys got to stop it. 329 00:20:50.880 --> 00:20:54.519 It's hampering relief effort. Explain to me how, and explain 330 00:20:54.599 --> 00:20:57.119 to me why a lone member, a Republican member of 331 00:20:57.119 --> 00:21:00.519 the North Carolina General Assembly, who on every every other 332 00:21:00.599 --> 00:21:04.680 day you think is literally satan in the way that 333 00:21:04.720 --> 00:21:10.519 you cover the legislature, right, you seethingly hate the Republicans. 334 00:21:10.720 --> 00:21:15.160 So why does one dude's Facebook post Trump everyone else? 335 00:21:15.240 --> 00:21:17.519 Is just because he's an elected official who you don't 336 00:21:17.559 --> 00:21:21.720 like anyway, And the answer is because it's making your 337 00:21:21.720 --> 00:21:24.240 team look bad. I'm going to give Harris credit. She 338 00:21:24.319 --> 00:21:26.640 went to Charlotte, and I'm damn glad she only went 339 00:21:26.680 --> 00:21:30.000 to Charlotte. I've told you how I feel about president 340 00:21:30.079 --> 00:21:34.200 presidential Okay, anyone who's going to require manipulating operations in 341 00:21:34.200 --> 00:21:37.319 a substantial manner doesn't need to be going to a 342 00:21:37.400 --> 00:21:45.200 disaster area. However, however, it did allow her to make 343 00:21:45.240 --> 00:21:50.839 another one of her stupid videos. Oh I just can't 344 00:21:50.920 --> 00:21:53.880 stand these. And if this woman gets elected, I feel 345 00:21:53.880 --> 00:21:58.559 like there's going to be four years or eight of 346 00:21:58.599 --> 00:22:01.759 these insane and you know the videos I'm talking about, right, 347 00:22:02.359 --> 00:22:05.279 it's where she's on a phone, she's not holding a phone, 348 00:22:05.319 --> 00:22:08.319 like a person who's ever used a phone, right, because 349 00:22:08.359 --> 00:22:10.720 there's two Like anybody's got a cell phone, which is 350 00:22:11.119 --> 00:22:14.200 all of you. How do you hold a phone to 351 00:22:14.319 --> 00:22:17.200 your ear if you're just talking by yourself. I'm literally 352 00:22:17.200 --> 00:22:19.240 doing the hand thing right now. You can't see it. 353 00:22:19.960 --> 00:22:21.920 Or if you put it on speaker, what do you do? 354 00:22:23.359 --> 00:22:25.640 You take the phone, you then put it out in 355 00:22:25.720 --> 00:22:28.079 front of you, maybe tip it up so the bottom 356 00:22:28.079 --> 00:22:30.759 of the phone is facing your mouth, depending on how 357 00:22:30.799 --> 00:22:34.319 loud it is, but you're staring at the screen almost 358 00:22:34.359 --> 00:22:36.920 as if you're reading it up close. That's how normal 359 00:22:36.920 --> 00:22:38.839 people do. She does this weird thing where it's like 360 00:22:38.839 --> 00:22:40.680 three inches off her ear but still on the side 361 00:22:40.720 --> 00:22:43.160 of her face. I don't understand it. And then what 362 00:22:43.519 --> 00:22:47.240 do they do? Whoever she's talking to on the phone 363 00:22:47.400 --> 00:22:49.400 and people I wish holds it like that. For audio, 364 00:22:49.559 --> 00:22:53.079 she's they're clearly not pulling. If you know, even if 365 00:22:53.079 --> 00:22:56.039 it's your first day in radio or your first day 366 00:22:56.079 --> 00:22:59.960 with ears, you know that the audio that you're hearing, 367 00:23:00.079 --> 00:23:02.480 and we'll play it for you is not being captured 368 00:23:02.519 --> 00:23:05.079 directly from the speaker at the base of her phone 369 00:23:05.200 --> 00:23:09.400 at a distance. So this whole thing is is very 370 00:23:09.480 --> 00:23:14.759 set up. And then whoever she's talking to on the phone, somehow, 371 00:23:14.960 --> 00:23:19.200 somehow has a camera crew and their side of it is. 372 00:23:20.039 --> 00:23:23.200 My question is did they actually tape that or is 373 00:23:23.240 --> 00:23:26.599 it like when we get spot loads where a client 374 00:23:26.680 --> 00:23:28.960 tapes their part first and then we gotta you gotta. 375 00:23:30.160 --> 00:23:32.480 That's the radio in me wondering like, is she even 376 00:23:32.519 --> 00:23:34.480 talking to her at that moment or are they just 377 00:23:34.519 --> 00:23:36.920 reading scripted lines and then they piece it together, which 378 00:23:36.920 --> 00:23:42.359 would almost be easier. So lo and behold, she calls 379 00:23:42.400 --> 00:23:46.440 the mayor of Ashville. Yep, calls Uh, let's see the 380 00:23:46.480 --> 00:23:47.759 mayor of Asheville. Was her name? 381 00:23:48.000 --> 00:23:48.240 Esther? 382 00:23:51.200 --> 00:23:53.200 Damn it? I just clicked off the story. Anyway, I'm 383 00:23:53.200 --> 00:23:55.880 gonna play the audio and I'll tell her name. So 384 00:23:55.960 --> 00:23:58.240 she calls the mayor of Ashville and we get treated 385 00:23:58.279 --> 00:24:02.200 to yet another one of these off word phone conversation things, 386 00:24:02.920 --> 00:24:06.839 complete with well, you know what, let's just go ahead 387 00:24:06.880 --> 00:24:08.559 and let you hear it for yourself, shall we? 388 00:24:08.680 --> 00:24:11.480 How are you doing? And I know that FEMA administrator 389 00:24:11.599 --> 00:24:14.839 Chris Well was with you, and there was some issue 390 00:24:14.839 --> 00:24:17.720 about some logjam around getting some of the food and 391 00:24:17.799 --> 00:24:19.559 water too. Has that been sorted out? 392 00:24:19.880 --> 00:24:23.960 The logistics were terrifically difficult because our highways were out. 393 00:24:23.960 --> 00:24:26.359 But we're we're seeing a lot. 394 00:24:26.200 --> 00:24:28.559 Of movement, all the effort coming in here, and the 395 00:24:28.799 --> 00:24:33.319 attention on helping us through this right now is growing 396 00:24:33.480 --> 00:24:36.799 and tremendous, and we're really appreciative, and I really appreciate 397 00:24:36.839 --> 00:24:37.759 you giving me a call. 398 00:24:38.319 --> 00:24:41.240 Okay, Well, know that we want to do everything we can. 399 00:24:41.279 --> 00:24:43.599 And you know, I say, as a devout public servant, 400 00:24:43.640 --> 00:24:45.759 I know how bureaucracy can sometimes get in the way 401 00:24:45.759 --> 00:24:48.720