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Speaker 1: Do you exclaimer to the fair season? Karen's out there?

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Speaker 2: How dare you? All guests only show do not reflect

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the opinions of the host. The purpose of the show

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is to have interesting conversations, stretch our minds and.

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Speaker 3: Grow not what we want.

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Speaker 2: If you are looking for an echo chamber viewer and

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Speaker 4: As you talk about extreme we will guilty from the stup.

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Speaker 5: They don't fear the questions.

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Speaker 3: They fear the f.

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Speaker 2: So we just see through.

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Speaker 5: They come fro Thank you the asy, but does the dark.

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: And uh, Tim, I want you to feel free to

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answer anyway.

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Speaker 1: You want to also have up here some slides, so

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as you guys start asking questions and we get into

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certain topics, we can refer to them from time to time.

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Speaker 5: I want this conversation to be organic, right.

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Speaker 1: It's the topic of u AP can cause some anxiety

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for some people. I personally look at it a little

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bit differently. I look at it as a as an opportunity.

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I think there there's hope. They just had a conversation

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with the love of a group of people back here

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and we talked about what.

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Speaker 5: This talk means. Your government is releasing information almost on

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a leave the basis.

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Speaker 3: Then let's let unless we forget that, just a here

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a gilt.

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Speaker 5: Your aging this conversation.

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Speaker 1: NASA was an asked do you have anything significants report

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about UAP and it was a big goop, said no,

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nothing at all.

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Speaker 5: Astronauts see nothing and we have no reports, no video,

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no nothing.

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Speaker 1: Well, guess what we can have to build nasive inities,

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audio of astronauts seeing things, and lots.

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Speaker 5: Of photographs and by the way, we had them as

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well here, so we can go through them if you want.

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Speaker 1: But furthermore, NASA came out and said something very interesting,

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he said, and they said, it's very likely that the

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objects you're seeing are real objects.

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Speaker 3: I'll think of that.

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Speaker 5: Think about that for a minute, folks.

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Speaker 3: Right, this is a time in the.

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Speaker 1: Late sixties early seventies we didn't have satellite into orbit

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even the Moon. What we had was a lunar orbit,

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Speaker 5: And it was waiting to rondev with the lunar later

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that was something there weren't satellite.

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Speaker 1: So you have NASSAVE releasing photographs taken from the surface

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of the Moon of something.

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Speaker 5: In the sky. Okay, and it's not ours.

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Speaker 1: Furthermore, you have this administration issue them saying here's information

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for you to consider it, right, and you figured it out.

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Speaker 5: And I like that personally.

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Speaker 1: I know all my government telling them what to think.

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I want to think for myself. I want you to

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think for yourself. So it's very important we had this

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conversation selectively together and for the first time since I.

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Speaker 5: Can remember, the government wants it to be a selective conversation.

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So think about it. Exciting time to live again.

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Speaker 1: There's going to come a point in the future and

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we're going to look back and you may not be

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realize it now, but you look up through disclosure and

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you're going to look back and say, I was there.

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Speaker 5: I was part of that conversation. I asked my question

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and my government listen, right. So that's that's really, that's

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really the unique opportunity.

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Speaker 1: So about further adod, I'm going to start asking some

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questions and then afterwards, would like I said, when we

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open up to the to the folks here, the audience

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asked their own questions. And the first rule is there

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are rules. You can ask anything you want and we

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will do our best to answer those for you. And

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by the way, you know, show up on the Internet

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at some point and the whole world. We'll see your question,

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we'll hear your questions, your response, So no further dude. Now,

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Tim has no idea the question we've been asking, and

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for those of you who are not familiar with his work,

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you're going to be very familiar.

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Speaker 5: By the time we double this conversation. But I'd like

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to break the ice, and I'm going to ask you

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a questions here, Jim, before we get into the rule

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Speaker 1: Here, what is your very first memory as a child,

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your very first memory?

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Speaker 3: Questions? That's why I asked memories child. I had no idea.

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Speaker 6: But actually I couldn't tell you which role is the

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first memory, Probably something to do with my mother.

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Speaker 3: I would say I'm a twin by them, I'm an

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identical twin.

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Speaker 5: I am.

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Speaker 3: My brother's name is Anthony.

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Speaker 5: Thankfully I don't have to twitch. Don't be a good

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Speaker 6: I specially tell you exactly what my first memory was.

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Speaker 5: He trust to be a man.

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Speaker 3: I remember my mom pushing me in.

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Speaker 6: A stroller, So I must have been really little, so

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maybe maybe even maybe even three years old stuff like that.

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Speaker 3: I remember my mom pushing me in a stroller.

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Speaker 5: Ralah blah.

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Speaker 6: That's probably one of the earlier memories that I had.

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that now that part it's just relevant.

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Speaker 3: It's just seem relevant. So I got those.

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Speaker 1: Questions church folks, and I wanted you to feel free

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to dispanswer and what we want. But you know, you're

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very accomplished and also self relivated. You know, you have

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really done a lot of this on your own, completely

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on your own this year, and I find that fascinating

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right and tackled topics that I think, you know, kind

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of went through your film topic are considered taboo by many.

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Speaker 5: And so what I'd like to do is kind of

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get your perspective and ask you and share the bodies.

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How did you get involved with this? You know, we

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had a short conversation earlier there about South America. I

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think they didn't lothe to say that.

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Speaker 6: Okay, so I'm gonna try and got a very very

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long story, very very short. This goes way back to

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when I was eighteen years old. I actually dropped out

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of high school senior year, kind of got kicked off

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and I ended up in Peru by way of being

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deported from England.

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Speaker 5: That I did not help.

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Speaker 3: Under very extraordinary circumstances.

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Speaker 6: And I had spent about ten years living in Peru,

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primarily in the in the provie and Amazons and this

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topic in particular, I remember I was I was standing

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the roof at night, and we would watch these objects

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you know, of of the aerial vehicle, and they would

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just sort of move around because and then they would

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dark very very quickly, instantaneous acceleration.

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Speaker 3: Around the sky. And that was sort of my very

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sort of my introduction into this world.

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Speaker 6: Obviously back out me thinking like there's no way that's

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conventional technology, and this was you know, there were there

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weren't even any drones back then.

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and so that was sort of my introduction into the

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topic was seeing things.

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Speaker 5: And I don't know if.

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Speaker 7: People familiar with I just met a lady from Peru

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over here, but if you're familiar with Peru and the

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Amazon in specifically, there's a lot of UFO activity and what's.

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Speaker 6: Interesting and I'm going to kind of wander ears or

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just cut me off whenever, letting what's interestingly Peru specifically

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Speaker 3: And the thing is that people tend to have not always,

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but they tend to have hostile experiences in the jungle

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with UFOs.

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Speaker 6: I mean, there's it's like the Qualates incident that happened

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to pren Soil, very much like that, where you have

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UFOs that pursue people. You would have UFOs that you know,

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hit people with lasers and pick people off the ground.

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then ongoing since the eighties. But there was a big

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face dealer flat as you're all aware, I'm sure, back

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in twenty twenty three, and I went down and investigate that.

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at least a lot of hostile activity that happens in

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the jungle. But it's interesting because if you go to

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the Andes, and you've member, you're familiar with this. If

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you go to the Andes, it's kind of a different story.

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encounters with UFOs and their occupants, and these are you know,

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ocean and also up in the Andes.

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Speaker 3: So it's I don't know what the deal is in for,

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but it's it's a very strange situation. So I was

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Speaker 6: Stuff myself and then interacting with people in Peru about

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their experiences, their signings and that sort of.

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Speaker 3: Really that's where my interest began.

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Speaker 6: And then fast forward, this must have been al I'm

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Speaker 3: This had to have been maybe fourteen years ago. I was.

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Speaker 6: I was working out with my brother in law and

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his basement as I would often do. And this was

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in Cleveland, Ohio, and I had returned from Peru and

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was back in the States, and the topic of our.

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Speaker 3: Conversation was more often than not UFOs.

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Speaker 6: And by this time I'm really deep into ethology, and

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of technologies maybe the government has been able to derive

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from what we now call the Legacy program.

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Speaker 3: Stuff like that. That was the that was the topic

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Speaker 6: And one particular evening where they're working out talking about

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this topic, and my brother in law said, Hey, I'm

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gonna run over to the next the next supper.

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Speaker 3: Bolver brook Park, where I was born and grew up

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in brook Park.

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Speaker 6: Ohio, to go to a supplement store before it closes

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and closed a run on the plought said you want

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Speaker 3: I said, sure, I'll go with you. So we jumped

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Speaker 6: We drive over to brook Park and we're approaching this

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strip mall and it's it's called the Brookade Shopping Complex.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it's still there today, but I

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Speaker 6: I said, you know, thirteen years older than him, and

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as we're approaching the complex. It's it's February, it's cold,

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it's very windy, and it's about eight forty five at nine,

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and we're approaching the shopping complex and we noticed there's

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this craft, this vehicle how bring in the air above

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Speaker 3: Which used to be a Hollywood video and.

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Speaker 5: You're dating yourself.

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Speaker 6: I am following Sol and we thought immediately this is

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this is a helicopter. And it was the size of

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Speaker 5: The parking lot.

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Speaker 3: So we're up to the light, and the first thing

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Speaker 6: We thought we were going to hear the telltales outlash

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Speaker 3: And we heard nothing. And we looked at each other

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