Speaker 1: Do you exclaimer to the fair season? Karen's out there?
Speaker 2: How dare you? All guests only show do not reflect
the opinions of the host. The purpose of the show
is to have interesting conversations, stretch our minds and.
Speaker 3: Grow not what we want.
Speaker 2: If you are looking for an echo chamber viewer and
listener discretion.
Speaker 4: As you talk about extreme we will guilty from the stup.
Speaker 5: They don't fear the questions.
Speaker 3: They fear the f.
Speaker 2: So we just see through.
Speaker 5: They come fro Thank you the asy, but does the dark.
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: And uh, Tim, I want you to feel free to
answer anyway.
Speaker 1: You want to also have up here some slides, so
as you guys start asking questions and we get into
certain topics, we can refer to them from time to time.
Speaker 5: I want this conversation to be organic, right.
Speaker 1: It's the topic of u AP can cause some anxiety
for some people. I personally look at it a little
bit differently. I look at it as a as an opportunity.
I think there there's hope. They just had a conversation
with the love of a group of people back here
and we talked about what.
Speaker 5: This talk means. Your government is releasing information almost on
a leave the basis.
Speaker 3: Then let's let unless we forget that, just a here
a gilt.
Speaker 5: Your aging this conversation.
Speaker 1: NASA was an asked do you have anything significants report
about UAP and it was a big goop, said no,
nothing at all.
Speaker 5: Astronauts see nothing and we have no reports, no video,
no nothing.
Speaker 1: Well, guess what we can have to build nasive inities,
audio of astronauts seeing things, and lots.
Speaker 5: Of photographs and by the way, we had them as
well here, so we can go through them if you want.
Speaker 1: But furthermore, NASA came out and said something very interesting,
he said, and they said, it's very likely that the
objects you're seeing are real objects.
Speaker 3: I'll think of that.
Speaker 5: Think about that for a minute, folks.
Speaker 3: Right, this is a time in the.
Speaker 1: Late sixties early seventies we didn't have satellite into orbit
even the Moon. What we had was a lunar orbit,
that's it.
Speaker 5: And it was waiting to rondev with the lunar later
that was something there weren't satellite.
Speaker 1: So you have NASSAVE releasing photographs taken from the surface
of the Moon of something.
Speaker 5: In the sky. Okay, and it's not ours.
Speaker 1: Furthermore, you have this administration issue them saying here's information
for you to consider it, right, and you figured it out.
Speaker 5: And I like that personally.
Speaker 1: I know all my government telling them what to think.
I want to think for myself. I want you to
think for yourself. So it's very important we had this
conversation selectively together and for the first time since I.
Speaker 5: Can remember, the government wants it to be a selective conversation.
So think about it. Exciting time to live again.
Speaker 1: There's going to come a point in the future and
we're going to look back and you may not be
realize it now, but you look up through disclosure and
you're going to look back and say, I was there.
Speaker 5: I was part of that conversation. I asked my question
and my government listen, right. So that's that's really, that's
really the unique opportunity.
Speaker 1: So about further adod, I'm going to start asking some
questions and then afterwards, would like I said, when we
open up to the to the folks here, the audience
asked their own questions. And the first rule is there
are rules. You can ask anything you want and we
will do our best to answer those for you. And
by the way, you know, show up on the Internet
at some point and the whole world. We'll see your question,
we'll hear your questions, your response, So no further dude. Now,
Tim has no idea the question we've been asking, and
for those of you who are not familiar with his work,
you're going to be very familiar.
Speaker 5: By the time we double this conversation. But I'd like
to break the ice, and I'm going to ask you
a questions here, Jim, before we get into the rule
eat potatoes.
Speaker 1: Here, what is your very first memory as a child,
your very first memory?
Speaker 3: Questions? That's why I asked memories child. I had no idea.
I couldn't I couldn't say it. I mean, I have
a you know, collection of memories for probably probably five
years old.
Speaker 6: But actually I couldn't tell you which role is the
first memory, Probably something to do with my mother.
Speaker 3: I would say I'm a twin by them, I'm an
identical twin.
Speaker 5: I am.
Speaker 3: My brother's name is Anthony.
Speaker 5: Thankfully I don't have to twitch. Don't be a good
thing to have another.
Speaker 6: I specially tell you exactly what my first memory was.
I don't think a good pinpoint one. Very a very
interesting question, man, Well.
Speaker 5: He trust to be a man.
Speaker 3: I remember my mom pushing me in.
Speaker 6: A stroller, So I must have been really little, so
maybe maybe even maybe even three years old stuff like that.
Speaker 3: I remember my mom pushing me in a stroller.
Speaker 5: Ralah blah.
Speaker 6: That's probably one of the earlier memories that I had.
And then I got abducted by any weak and there's
that now that part it's just relevant.
Speaker 3: It's just seem relevant. So I got those.
Speaker 1: Questions church folks, and I wanted you to feel free
to dispanswer and what we want. But you know, you're
very accomplished and also self relivated. You know, you have
really done a lot of this on your own, completely
on your own this year, and I find that fascinating
right and tackled topics that I think, you know, kind
of went through your film topic are considered taboo by many.
Speaker 5: And so what I'd like to do is kind of
get your perspective and ask you and share the bodies.
How did you get involved with this? You know, we
had a short conversation earlier there about South America. I
think they didn't lothe to say that.
Speaker 6: Okay, so I'm gonna try and got a very very
long story, very very short. This goes way back to
when I was eighteen years old. I actually dropped out
of high school senior year, kind of got kicked off
and I ended up in Peru by way of being
deported from England.
Speaker 5: That I did not help.
Speaker 3: Under very extraordinary circumstances.
Speaker 6: And I had spent about ten years living in Peru,
primarily in the in the provie and Amazons and this
topic in particular, I remember I was I was standing
on the roof of this this building that we were
we were renting part of this building. My wife and
I and I remember standing on this on the on
the roof at night, and we would watch these objects
in the sky and they were clearly some kind of area,
you know, of of the aerial vehicle, and they would
just sort of move around because and then they would
dark very very quickly, instantaneous acceleration.
Speaker 3: Around the sky. And that was sort of my very
sort of my introduction into this world.
Speaker 6: Obviously back out me thinking like there's no way that's
conventional technology, and this was you know, there were there
weren't even any drones back then.
Speaker 3: This was this must have been.
Speaker 6: Twenty years ago and more not ab twenty years ago,
and so that was sort of my introduction into the
topic was seeing things.
Speaker 5: And I don't know if.
Speaker 7: People familiar with I just met a lady from Peru
over here, but if you're familiar with Peru and the
Amazon in specifically, there's a lot of UFO activity and what's.
Speaker 6: Interesting and I'm going to kind of wander ears or
just cut me off whenever, letting what's interestingly Peru specifically
is if you're in the jungle, everybody is the UFOs
in the jungle.
Speaker 3: And the thing is that people tend to have not always,
but they tend to have hostile experiences in the jungle
with UFOs.
Speaker 6: I mean, there's it's like the Qualates incident that happened
to pren Soil, very much like that, where you have
UFOs that pursue people. You would have UFOs that you know,
hit people with lasers and pick people off the ground.
Of Course, the Platata phenomenon, the facing you with phenomenononess
then ongoing since the eighties. But there was a big
face dealer flat as you're all aware, I'm sure, back
in twenty twenty three, and I went down and investigate that.
So there's always very very hostile activity or at least
at least a lot of hostile activity that happens in
the jungle. But it's interesting because if you go to
the Andes, and you've member, you're familiar with this. If
you go to the Andes, it's kind of a different story.
In the Andes, you talk to the villagers, the Indian communities,
and it's as a completely different thing. They have a
lot of sort of benevolent encounters with UFOs or innocuous
encounters with UFOs and their occupants, and these are you know,
these would fit the description of Nordics usually. And they
see a lot of craft coming up out of the
ocean and also up in the Andes.
Speaker 3: So it's I don't know what the deal is in for,
but it's it's a very strange situation. So I was
exposed to this early on, seeing.
Speaker 6: Stuff myself and then interacting with people in Peru about
their experiences, their signings and that sort of.
Speaker 3: Really that's where my interest began.
Speaker 6: And then fast forward, this must have been al I'm
really bad at the dates, terrible dates.
Speaker 3: This had to have been maybe fourteen years ago. I was.
Speaker 6: I was working out with my brother in law and
his basement as I would often do. And this was
in Cleveland, Ohio, and I had returned from Peru and
was back in the States, and the topic of our.
Speaker 3: Conversation was more often than not UFOs.
Speaker 6: And by this time I'm really deep into ethology, and
you know, we're talking about Bob Bazaar and what kind
of technologies maybe the government has been able to derive
from what we now call the Legacy program.
Speaker 3: Stuff like that. That was the that was the topic
of our conversation usual.
Speaker 6: And one particular evening where they're working out talking about
this topic, and my brother in law said, Hey, I'm
gonna run over to the next the next supper.
Speaker 3: Bolver brook Park, where I was born and grew up
in brook Park.
Speaker 6: Ohio, to go to a supplement store before it closes
and closed a run on the plought said you want
to go with me?
Speaker 3: I said, sure, I'll go with you. So we jumped
in my car.
Speaker 6: We drive over to brook Park and we're approaching this
strip mall and it's it's called the Brookade Shopping Complex.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's still there today, but I
used to ride my bike around the line.
Speaker 6: I said, you know, thirteen years older than him, and
as we're approaching the complex. It's it's February, it's cold,
it's very windy, and it's about eight forty five at nine,
and we're approaching the shopping complex and we noticed there's
this craft, this vehicle how bring in the air above
the corner store.
Speaker 3: Which used to be a Hollywood video and.
Speaker 5: You're dating yourself.
Speaker 6: I am following Sol and we thought immediately this is
this is a helicopter. And it was the size of
like a large helicopter, like a Chinook or like a
black cop or something like that, a large military helicopter.
Speaker 3: And the first thing we did and we're coming up
to the light, and we're coming through the intersection air
and you go through the intersection and you enter.
Speaker 5: The parking lot.
Speaker 3: So we're up to the light, and the first thing
we did was we rolled out our limbs because.
Speaker 6: We thought we were going to hear the telltales outlash
right right with blades whipping through the air.
Speaker 3: And we heard nothing. And we looked at each other
like no oh.
Speaker 6: And I pulled into the parking lot and there's hardly
anybody there because it's everything's closing. It's eight forty five
or whatever, and I have to say it's a very
windy nut.
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