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<v Speaker 1>Seven o six here at fifty five kr C DE

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<v Speaker 1>Talk station. A very happy independence Dae to you. Please

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<v Speaker 1>to see it worked out for us. I'm happy to

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<v Speaker 1>introduce to the fifty five KRC Morning Show to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about her book The Ultimate Vaccine Timeline, a fact packed

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<v Speaker 1>history of vaccines and their makers. Welcome to the fifty

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<v Speaker 1>five CARSY Morning Show. Shas Khan a London born Swiss creator, designer,

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<v Speaker 1>information junking, critical thinker, obsessed for some reason. We'll find

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<v Speaker 1>out why with vaccines. Graduated from a Central Saint Martin

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<v Speaker 1>College of Art and Design with a BA and Product

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<v Speaker 1>Design complemented or education with certification certifications and courses of nutrition, marketing, communications, anatomy,

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<v Speaker 1>physiology and immunal biology as well as vaccinology. Shaskhan, it

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<v Speaker 1>is a pleasure to have you on the fifty five

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<v Speaker 1>KRC Morning Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, Brian, thanks so much for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, with your interesting background, I mean, you didn't

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<v Speaker 1>go to medical school and you didn't become a scientist,

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<v Speaker 1>research siteist, how is it you parlayed your background into

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<v Speaker 1>this profound interest in vaccines, which led, of course to

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<v Speaker 1>your publication of the book The Ultimate Vaccine Timeline.

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<v Speaker 2>I've always had a passion for science, and I almost

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<v Speaker 2>did biology as a major at university and then went

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<v Speaker 2>to art. But the reason why I decided to look

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<v Speaker 2>into this is because simply I had a personal tragedy

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<v Speaker 2>in my life. My father passed away two months after

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<v Speaker 2>a flu shot, and there were just lots of rag

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<v Speaker 2>flags that went up for me because he was diagnosed

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<v Speaker 2>with stage four lung cancer. He never smoked, it was

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<v Speaker 2>pretty healthy, but in hospital all his symptoms were neurological.

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<v Speaker 2>So I just was a bit confused, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know anything about vaccines. I mean, I'm not a parent either.

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<v Speaker 2>Some vaccines went on my radar, but after that incident,

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<v Speaker 2>basically I started asking questions, went and read the package

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<v Speaker 2>and start was surprised to find that the neurological injuries

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<v Speaker 2>were actually acknowledged and recognized after flu vaccines, And that

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<v Speaker 2>just got me started reading and then going down the

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<v Speaker 2>rabbit hole in libraries and national archives in the UK

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<v Speaker 2>and in Switzerland.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, it's tragedies like that somehow often end up bearing

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<v Speaker 1>fruit in the form of providing the rest of us

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<v Speaker 1>with information that's actually being hidden. We learned a lot

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<v Speaker 1>about this, you know, the behind the scenes research and

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<v Speaker 1>the studies and the outcomes that the pharmaceutical companies knew about.

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<v Speaker 1>Most notably, I'm thinking obviously about the COVID nineteen vaccine,

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<v Speaker 1>but they didn't disclose it to the American people, and

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<v Speaker 1>they got this emergency use authorization which prevents them from

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<v Speaker 1>being sued for this what I would argue was a

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<v Speaker 1>holy whole cloth experimental vaccine. And then we find out,

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<v Speaker 1>like you, when you go to find out what the

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<v Speaker 1>story is and what the realities are and is there

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<v Speaker 1>any causal connection between my daughter or my son having

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<v Speaker 1>a heart attack at age twelve with these vaccines, they

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to give you the information. So did you

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<v Speaker 1>run in any brick walls trying to discover information on

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<v Speaker 1>these vaccines.

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<v Speaker 2>On COVID specifically, yes, like I think everybody else. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's also because there's relatively recent so we're

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<v Speaker 2>still going to have to be patient and wait for

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<v Speaker 2>a while before all the information comes out. But a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of information is already available. But for the other

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<v Speaker 2>vaccines and then the archives. The only roadblock I came

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<v Speaker 2>against is there are lots of documents that are still

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<v Speaker 2>protected by by the Freedom of Information Acts. I mean, sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't get access to them for the Freedom of

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<v Speaker 2>Information Acts because they're still protected. So some of the

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<v Speaker 2>requests that I made through the National Archives, some I

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<v Speaker 2>got through to and others I couldn't get access to.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll try again, I guess, in five years, to

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<v Speaker 2>get access to these documents. So these are documents from

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<v Speaker 2>the government, like internal minutes from the meetings, different reports

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<v Speaker 2>that they might have received. And I could get access

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<v Speaker 2>to documents from the eighties, but documents that are more recent.

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<v Speaker 2>And I say recent was like, you know, question comments,

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<v Speaker 2>comments from the nineties that I still couldn't get a

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<v Speaker 2>hold of. So that's the only roadblock that I came

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<v Speaker 2>across at the moment, because otherwise a lot of information

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<v Speaker 2>out there is just a question of really digging in

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<v Speaker 2>and having to go find it, and most people don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to do that in libraries.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and your book is a historical one too, because

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, as I read it spans over fifteen hundred years.

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<v Speaker 1>Have vaccines been around that long?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, vaccines in the way that we understand them haven't

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<v Speaker 2>been around that long. But the concept of variolation, which

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<v Speaker 2>is the concept of giving someone a controlled like back

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<v Speaker 2>in the days it was smallpox, so that was like

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<v Speaker 2>they would either blow dried scabs up your nose or

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<v Speaker 2>try to scrape it into an open wound, superficial wound

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<v Speaker 2>on your arm. That's been around for almost like one

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<v Speaker 2>thy three hundred years. We don't have any, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>definitive records where it started, but it's believed to have

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<v Speaker 2>started in Asia and then come over to Europe and

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<v Speaker 2>then buy the seventeen hundreds, late seventeen hundreds was in Europe,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was banned eventually in the mid eighteen hundreds

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<v Speaker 2>because it was known to be a pretty dangerous procedure.

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<v Speaker 2>It could transmit all kinds of other infections and people

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<v Speaker 2>could get like a crossed arms and that was replaced

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<v Speaker 2>with vaccination, which is the concept that basically Edward Jenner

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<v Speaker 2>in the UK brought up, which is using cowtbooks to

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<v Speaker 2>that rarely against to vaccinate against the small points.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, did you reach any determination as to whether there

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<v Speaker 1>were particular categories of vaccines that were quote unquote safe

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<v Speaker 1>versus those that you personally wouldn't use because you fear

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<v Speaker 1>how they are manufacturing, I think, and you're not talking

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<v Speaker 1>to a doctor or a virologist or a scientist, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't play one on radio, but mRNA technology sounds

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<v Speaker 1>to me from what I've read. They've known about this

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<v Speaker 1>type of technology behind the scenes, but they've never launched

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<v Speaker 1>any major pharmaceutical drugs based on that technology because there

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<v Speaker 1>was a lot of risk associated with it. And then

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<v Speaker 1>along comes COVID and that's the technology they use for

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<v Speaker 1>the COVID vaccines. Is there something inherently concerning about that

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<v Speaker 1>type of technology mr NA?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what's concerning about that type of technology is something

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<v Speaker 2>completely new and was initially used in the concept of

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<v Speaker 2>cancer treatment. So obviously you had various thick patients who

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have much other recourse than almar was real option

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<v Speaker 2>because it didn't have any other options. The first mRNA

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<v Speaker 2>critical trial for the infractious disease wasn't until twenty thirteen,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was done by Kurevak in Germany, and it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't even very successful, like they sold the results in

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred people and it wasn't very wasn't very promising.

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<v Speaker 2>So the fact that they're using this topology which turns

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<v Speaker 2>people cells into a protein spike creating factory, is incredibly

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<v Speaker 2>concerning because We don't know how long the protein is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be expressed, We don't know how many you know,

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<v Speaker 2>spike proteins you're creating. That could be explaining as well

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<v Speaker 2>why we see such a huge different types of problems

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<v Speaker 2>like from myocarditis to blood cloths, to respiraty issues, to

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<v Speaker 2>weird skins issues and neurological diseases. So for me, it's

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<v Speaker 2>definitely a technology that is incredibly concerning. To have launched

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<v Speaker 2>it like this on a mass scale under an emergency

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<v Speaker 2>youth authorization is incredibly concerning.

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<v Speaker 1>Well some would say criminal, and there in lines of

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<v Speaker 1>challenge because you know, we had this, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>we're all going to die global pandemic on our hands,

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<v Speaker 1>and so people were inclined to, pretty much like a

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<v Speaker 1>cancer patient with no resources or no other options, go

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<v Speaker 1>with whatever option is available. It almost seems like we

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<v Speaker 1>were all in that circumstance. But if Pfizer or the

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<v Speaker 1>pharmaceutical manufacturers of these mrn NA technologies knew themselves that

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<v Speaker 1>there were risks and substantial risks compared to other f

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<v Speaker 1>like FDA approved drugs, what's with the rush to judgment

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<v Speaker 1>and getting it out into the world. Is there something

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<v Speaker 1>nefarious behind that, or is just the old fashioned profit motive.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, obviously profit motive is one of them, because Pfizer

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<v Speaker 2>made a huge amount of money with their vaccine, But

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<v Speaker 2>I don't understand why the government would back that up

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<v Speaker 2>because the profit motive doesn't really apply.

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<v Speaker 1>For them exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>So unfortunately, I would speculate that there's something either they

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to see how we would comply. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>social experiment, or there is something in that vaccine that

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<v Speaker 2>will discover down the line at some point that was

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<v Speaker 2>again tested to see how it could react in people.

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<v Speaker 2>And so that's that's my speculation because I have no

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<v Speaker 2>way of confirming.

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<v Speaker 1>So one big, massive stage one clinical trial on the

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<v Speaker 1>global population basically.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty much i'd say stage two, stage three. Maybe Stage

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<v Speaker 2>one is usually only one hundred people. But yeah, definitely

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<v Speaker 2>an experiment in a mass scale all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, in so far as other vaccines are concerned, moving

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<v Speaker 1>away from the m RNA COVID vaccine, I am not

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<v Speaker 1>a complete anti vaxxer. I know there are folks out

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<v Speaker 1>there that are saying hell not of vaccines that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>autism is a big concern, but I'm happy that we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have rooms full of hundreds of iron lungs, which

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<v Speaker 1>is what people need when they got polio, and the

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<v Speaker 1>polio vaccines seems to have been wildly successful like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of other vaccines. Is have you reach any conclusions

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<v Speaker 1>about some of these long standing drugs or vaccines that

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<v Speaker 1>we are usually regularly.

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<v Speaker 2>Getting well For me, polio was definitely one of the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest shuckers because if anybody Hasten has read Dissolving Illusions

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<v Speaker 2>by doctor Susan Humphrie and Roman Dystrionic, that goes into

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<v Speaker 2>explaining very well the misconceptions that we had around the

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<v Speaker 2>polio vaccine being so effective. And I'll tell you two

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<v Speaker 2>things is they changed the definition of polio when the

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<v Speaker 2>vaccine came out, and they also changed this funny because

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<v Speaker 2>you see often the same playbook, like they defined people

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<v Speaker 2>who were vaccinated as unvaccinated because they hadn't they received

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<v Speaker 2>polio or they had polio sorry within two weeks of

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<v Speaker 2>getting the vaccine, so they were able to pull them unalcylated,

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<v Speaker 2>which everyone knows is what actions happened exactly with COVID

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<v Speaker 2>vaccine and polio as well. Nobody looked into really understanding

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<v Speaker 2>what the causes were. There were lots of people at

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<v Speaker 2>the time who were sticking the alarm about DDT so

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<v Speaker 2>pesticides that were being used and the reason why it

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<v Speaker 2>was more prominent in summertime. And the polio vaccine itself

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<v Speaker 2>was also very problematic. I mean, it caused polio. That's

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<v Speaker 2>why very quickly in the nineteen sixties who shifted to

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<v Speaker 2>the oral polio, which was the sugar cube live version. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but even that also caused problems. So I was my

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<v Speaker 2>bubble basically burst when I looked into polio because I

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<v Speaker 2>came out of this, you know, when I approached this

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<v Speaker 2>research very four vaccines, believing what we were told, and

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<v Speaker 2>the polio vaccine basically burst that bubble, and I had

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<v Speaker 2>to realize that, Hang on a minute, they've been telling

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<v Speaker 2>us the bunch of propaganda, in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>So hmm, well, I would just think about the global

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<v Speaker 1>numbers of people with polio compared to where they were,

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<v Speaker 1>say at the turn of the century, last century. Obviously

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<v Speaker 1>there's a reduction in the number of polio cases out there.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to support, go ahead, Yeah, So I

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<v Speaker 2>was just going to say, what's interesting about polio as

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<v Speaker 2>an infectious disease? Like all the other infectious diseases were

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<v Speaker 2>pretty high in the beginning of the twentieth century, like

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<v Speaker 2>you know, measles and eustice and dipteria. But polio came

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<v Speaker 2>out of nowhere. It was very interesting, like there was

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<v Speaker 2>zero zerra cases and then suddenly nineteen sixteen there was

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<v Speaker 2>an epidemic in New York City and then there were

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<v Speaker 2>some spikes. But essentially polio pretty much came out of nowhere.

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<v Speaker 2>So it looks like it was more of an environmental

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<v Speaker 2>thing that was causing these problems. And there's also something

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<v Speaker 2>called provocation poliomi lightest, which was known to be caused

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<v Speaker 2>after DTP vaccine and smallpox vaccine, they knew that givting

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<v Speaker 2>vaccines the kids could actually create polio. And that's in

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<v Speaker 2>the documentation and that I show in my book.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's frightening, and is this and this is information.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all well documented, I mean obviously not readily available

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<v Speaker 1>to you or I. And you walk into your you

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<v Speaker 1>take your kid into a pediatrician's office, it's just a

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<v Speaker 1>matter of course, Well, it's time to get the polios,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, sugar, It's time to get the the measles

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<v Speaker 1>and mumps. Vaccine, and no one really stops and discusses

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<v Speaker 1>the potential downside risk of this. I don't recall that

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<v Speaker 1>ever happening with my children.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, they don't. But the information is readily available,

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<v Speaker 2>but as I said, often it's available only through libraries

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<v Speaker 2>or through paywalls of medical articles that most people don't

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<v Speaker 2>have access to. So I have tried to put as

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<v Speaker 2>much information in the book and also the website. They

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<v Speaker 2>will a company. It will show give links to people

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<v Speaker 2>so that if they want to go and find out more,

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<v Speaker 2>they'll have, you know, places to go and look. But no,

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<v Speaker 2>this information isn't like it's not on the vaccine information

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<v Speaker 2>sheet given by the CDC.

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<v Speaker 1>That's for sure. Frightening stuff. Well, I'm glad we have

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<v Speaker 1>you out there. Schez Khan, author of the Ultimate Vaccine

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<v Speaker 1>Timeline of Fact back History of Vaccines in the Makers four.

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<v Speaker 1>We part company this morning, and I've enjoyed our conversation

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<v Speaker 1>very enlightening. Is there some one thing that specifically jumps

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<v Speaker 1>out at you? If you had to let my listening

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<v Speaker 1>audience know of some terrible or crazy fact you learn

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<v Speaker 1>when compiling all this information, is something immediately jumped to mine?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, apart from the polio issues. For me, I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>aware of the vaccine Injury Compensation program when I started

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<v Speaker 2>my research. Those who don't know, since nineteen eighty nine,

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<v Speaker 2>over eleven thousand cases of vaccine harm have been compensated

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<v Speaker 2>for over five billion US dollars and it concerns mainly

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<v Speaker 2>mainly the flu vaccine, with the DTP being a close

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<v Speaker 2>second or third position. But this I wasn't aware of

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<v Speaker 2>because obviously my dad passed away after the flu vaccines,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was quite shocked to see that that was

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<v Speaker 2>already seen as one of the most compensated cases in

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<v Speaker 2>the vaccine injury Compensation program.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, condolence is on your law your father, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>glad you did the research to track it down and

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you putting it all together in the Ultimate

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<v Speaker 1>Vaccine Timeline. My listeners can easily get a copy of

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<v Speaker 1>your book on my blog page at fifty five car

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<v Speaker 1>Sea dot com and I'll encourage them to do so.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been great talking with you, and thank you again

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<v Speaker 1>for your time.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Brian, Thank you so much for having me by.

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