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Speaker 1: the show ends today. Now with that said, this is
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Speaker 1: thing and ask me a series of questions pertaining to
Speaker 1: all sorts of events that are taking place in this
Speaker 1: country otherwise on the world. So I'm gonna turn it
Speaker 1: over to you, and let's proceed in a Q and
Speaker 1: a fashion, and let's cover some of these hot button topics.
Speaker 2: There are a lot of stuff to cover, Chris, and
Speaker 2: that's part of the reason why I approached you. Let's
Speaker 2: let's do another interview session because I feel like when
Speaker 2: we are able to do this, it takes a little
Speaker 2: bit off of your plate to go find those stories,
Speaker 2: but it also allows us to hit a few more
Speaker 2: topics than normal. So let's let's start off. You know,
Speaker 2: I guess with the question everybody always wants to ask
Speaker 2: you first. Any updates on what you're thinking about in
Speaker 2: your future?
Speaker 1: No, no, none at all. I've been thinking about all
Speaker 1: the possibilities, but there's been no decision made as to
Speaker 1: what the future looks like politically. What I do know
Speaker 1: is that between the ability to participate in some of
Speaker 1: these Charlie Kirk memorials and more on that later. Certainly,
Speaker 1: speaking again across the state and still writing an awful lot,
Speaker 1: I think right now my calling is to keep educating
Speaker 1: and doing the best I can to spread the message
Speaker 1: of conservatism as far or as an office in the future.
Speaker 1: I'm not foreclosing that that certainly is a possibility, and
Speaker 1: all options are on the table. I think Mississippi and
Speaker 1: other states we need good, strong conservative leaders that won't compromise,
Speaker 1: not only with the Rhinos in our party, but with
Speaker 1: the Democrats on the other side of the aisle. And
Speaker 1: Jack I've said this a men in times. I think
Speaker 1: the greatest enemy or adversary that we have as conservatives
Speaker 1: isn't so much the Democrats. I think that people sometimes
Speaker 1: blink and they see, what do you mean. Well, it's simple.
Speaker 1: We have betrayal from within. Elements of our own party
Speaker 1: are more concerned about power and acquisition and making deals
Speaker 1: with Democrats that they have basically forgot what it was
Speaker 1: like to even be conservative. There's no greater example of
Speaker 1: that than the present national debt. Now, let me tell
Speaker 1: you a little story about that. This is going to
Speaker 1: blow your mind. Listen to me for a minute, everybody,
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, not that long ago. Twenty fourteen, I was
Speaker 1: running to against US Senator Thad Cochrane, Senator Cockrane forty
Speaker 1: one years in Washington, a politician that many Mississippians beloved
Speaker 1: his issue was different than mine, and that I was
Speaker 1: trying to make a case against federal spending. And I
Speaker 1: did my best to make that case against federal spending,
Speaker 1: and it resonated among Republicans in this state. At the time.
Speaker 1: I'll go to speeches and I would always lament the
Speaker 1: fact that the national debt was seventeen trillion dollars. That's
Speaker 1: what it was, just seventeen trillion dollars. And I was
Speaker 1: mad then. This was eleven years ago, and I could
Speaker 1: not believe we allowed ourselves to come to this point
Speaker 1: where seventeen trillion dollars was an issue with the debt.
Speaker 1: This week thirty eight trillion dollars. It's the national debt.
Speaker 1: Just do that math for a second. In just the
Speaker 1: past ten years, the national debt has more than doubled.
Speaker 1: That means we've accumulated more national debt in ten years
Speaker 1: than we did the first two hundred and forty years
Speaker 1: of this country's existence. It's crazy, it's absolutely ridiculous. Now
Speaker 1: those of you out there seem to think that national
Speaker 1: debts don't matter, Well, they do matter for a lot
Speaker 1: of different reasons. One of the wings, one of the
Speaker 1: things happens, the more we spend, the more we crowd
Speaker 1: out other public expenditures and even private expenditures. Just a
Speaker 1: good way to look at that, Let's just say, and
Speaker 1: this is not a hypothetical, this is reality. Let's just
Speaker 1: say you have interest on a credit card that has
Speaker 1: to be paid. And let's just say the interest alone
Speaker 1: on your credit card exceeds your major other expenses for
Speaker 1: your home. That would be a problem. Just think about that.
Speaker 1: What if the interest alone exceeded your mortgage payment for
Speaker 1: our life, just the interest, or maybe quadrupled it, whatever
Speaker 1: the case may be. I think, as a citizen, you
Speaker 1: would look at that and say, boy, we got problems
Speaker 1: in my household. You should look at these numbers. The
Speaker 1: federal government is immense, it's huge. It's way too big,
Speaker 1: way too powerful, spends way too much money. Here's some
Speaker 1: perspective for you. The interest alone to service the debt
Speaker 1: will be greater this year than the entire amount we
Speaker 1: spend on our military folks. And it gets worse because
Speaker 1: as governments try to make up the difference between what
Speaker 1: they actually have coming in versus what they have going out,
Speaker 1: sometimes they have to do something called print money. When
Speaker 1: they're not borrowing money, they're printing money. Why do you
Speaker 1: think prices are getting so much more expensive? You do
Speaker 1: realize there is a cause an effect with inflationary upward
Speaker 1: curbs and increases based on public expenditures. It's like people
Speaker 1: look at the debt and think, well, that's not my problem.
Speaker 1: It's never going to materialize to be an issue. But
Speaker 1: it's materializing around you every single day. The price of
Speaker 1: everything continues to increase. That's driven in large by public spending.
Speaker 1: I won't even get into what happens when you can't
Speaker 1: spend to exert your influence because the money's are no
Speaker 1: longer there, and what evils arise when that does occur.
Speaker 1: The bottom money is And I'm going off on a tangent.
Speaker 1: We tried to be conservative, but our parties filled with
Speaker 1: a bunch of whimps. Yep, it's filled with a bunch
Speaker 1: of whimps. And so I've always said the greatest enemy
Speaker 1: is from within so what I'm going to run for
Speaker 1: wherever I think I can find a way to fight
Speaker 1: and to reexert what I think. It's the conservative nature
Speaker 1: of the Republican.
Speaker 2: Party, even if that's just still doing a talk.
Speaker 1: Maybe, but I guarantee you this is I'm not excluding anything.
Speaker 1: We have too many people in this state that sit
Speaker 1: and wait in line to get the tap on the
Speaker 1: shoulder to run for office. And they do that because
Speaker 1: if already cut deals. Yep, they do it because they're
Speaker 1: part of the established order. So they sit and wait
Speaker 1: their time, and they get tapped on the shoulder. Yes, son,
Speaker 1: it's your turn now, only so long as we can
Speaker 1: control you. I'm not into all that. I think that's ridiculous,
Speaker 1: and I think that's part of the problem with this
Speaker 1: entire system is we have too many career politicians waiting
Speaker 1: in line to get tapped on the shoulder. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a problem.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent agree with that, And that's one of
Speaker 2: the things I'd love to see us break away from
Speaker 2: that trend, whether it's through a candidate like yourself or
Speaker 2: we get someone else that is hungry. You know, it's
Speaker 2: it's just this repeat, rents and repeat cycle of these
Speaker 2: politicians let me run for this now. I'm gonna run
Speaker 2: for that now. And it's because and I'm not talking
Speaker 2: about ones that are doing it for the right reason,
Speaker 2: who are few and far between. I'm talking about the
Speaker 2: ones you're talking about who's been tapped on the shoulders.
Speaker 1: So this is so many voters are up to not all.
Speaker 1: Someone will try to use that against me one day.
Speaker 1: So many voters don't ask the follow up questions. Let's say,
Speaker 1: for example, a challenger, a strong conservative challenger, runs against
Speaker 1: one of these little fellows that are waiting on their
Speaker 1: line or hit on their turn to run. And the
Speaker 1: little fellas they have the support of the establishment. So
Speaker 1: these little eager guys that want to be a part
Speaker 1: of something bigger than themselves. I don't know what happened.
Speaker 1: Maybe when they were kids they weren't hugged enough, but
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, they need to hold an office, and
Speaker 1: to do that. To do that, they're wanting to exchange
Speaker 1: their principles for payments, campaign donations. And then they go
Speaker 1: on TV against the challenger and they spend untold millions. See,
Speaker 1: voters don't ask how do they offend? How are they
Speaker 1: able to expend all of that airtime money, where does
Speaker 1: that money come from? They never asked that question I once.
Speaker 1: And so you see a go on TV six, seven, eight, nine,
Speaker 1: tens at times a day, and he's fashioned the challenger,
Speaker 1: and obviously he's going to win the race because he
Speaker 1: has the TV money just to spend. The voters just
Speaker 1: watch it and they don't question. I wonder where that
Speaker 1: boy got all those millions of dollars and the answer
Speaker 1: is he got it from those butts he's kissing.
Speaker 2: But they'll question the challenger when the incumbent questions, well,
Speaker 2: he's just getting out of state money. They're quick to
Speaker 2: question a challenger, but they always ignore the incumbent, who
Speaker 2: has more money than the challenger. They don't ask where
Speaker 2: his money comes from.
Speaker 1: That's just did They don't ask what they should because
Speaker 1: if you go look at those campaign financial reports, almost
Speaker 1: all of it's going to be out of state money, absolutely,
Speaker 1: and the money that is from in state, it's going
Speaker 1: to be folks that have direct contracts with the state
Speaker 1: that are trying to keep their contracts with the state.
Speaker 1: It's quid pro quote. I scratched your back, you scratched mind,
Speaker 1: and we wonder why things never change. To your point,
Speaker 1: these people get tapped on the shoulder to run, and
Speaker 1: they're so eager to be somebody because they fail and
Speaker 1: everything else right, they're so eager to be somebody. They
Speaker 1: get in line and they begin to cut deals, title
Speaker 1: over principle, begin to cut deals. And nobody ever asked
Speaker 1: where'd all this money come from? When it came from
Speaker 1: the same establishment you claim you don't like. It came
Speaker 1: from the same group of good old boys you claim
Speaker 1: shouldn't be in office. But you'll go, you'll go right
Speaker 1: along with it. You'll vote for that same guy because
Speaker 1: he has the money. You've seen the TV commercial. He's
Speaker 1: never taken up for Trump in his life, but when
Speaker 1: he runs for office, he's pro Trump all the way, right.
Speaker 2: Right side of Trump, cut out right there with him.
Speaker 1: You've seen the ads. And then he's gonna have this nice,
Speaker 1: beautiful family, and he's gonna tell you he's pro military,
Speaker 1: and he's pro life, and he's he's against taxation. But
Speaker 1: the whole time he's been in office, he's lived against
Speaker 1: most Republican principles. It's just that now he has the
Speaker 1: money to project that image, and the voters fall for
Speaker 1: a time and time and time again, which is why
Speaker 1: coincidentally we are thirty eight trillion daughters in the whole
Speaker 1: despite running fiscally conservative Republicans think about it every race.
Speaker 1: I'm a fiscal Republican. We have to get our uh,
Speaker 1: our financial house and order then to get elected. And
Speaker 1: they keep doing exactly the same thing because they got
Speaker 1: tapped on the shoulder because they are part of the
Speaker 1: established order. Now you'll know him about the fruits they bear. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: I just source supporters would wake up and see that.
Speaker 2: Look at as much as we can probably spend the
Speaker 2: entire hour talking on this, if we want to get
Speaker 2: to some of the other questions, I've got to I
Speaker 2: got to move us along here. You recently spoke at
Speaker 2: a Charlie Kirk memorial at the University of Southern Mississippi.
Speaker 2: Tell Us, tell us a little bit about it, and
Speaker 2: you know, I've been told that the security was through
Speaker 2: the roof of this thing. So tell us how the
Speaker 2: event was and talk a little bit about the security
Speaker 2: measures they had in place.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, that's it was a bit uncommon. You know,
Speaker 1: I've been in big races in my life and I've
Speaker 1: been surrounded by security a lot over the years, but
Speaker 1: here it was exceptional, which which is a positive thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't want violence, right, and we've seen
Speaker 1: the proclivity of the American left to commit violence against
Speaker 1: anyone they disagree with, so and to that extent, I
Speaker 1: was happy to see that they took extra precaution during
Speaker 1: the event. It was an outdoor event, which naturally my
Speaker 1: red flags went up when I arrived.
Speaker 2: It was supposed to be indoor.
Speaker 1: Initially I was told it was that could have been misunderstanding.
Speaker 1: Oh my, who knows. I just my perception was it
Speaker 1: was going to be indoors. And then I pull up
Speaker 1: and see this big crowd in the podium sitting outside.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, oh jeez. But I felt much better about
Speaker 1: recognizing the security that was in place. And it wasn't
Speaker 1: so much a Charlie Kirk memorial, even though it was.
Speaker 1: It was a reminder to the people in attendance what
Speaker 1: the ultimate responsibility is after something like this occurs. Because
Speaker 1: you lose someone that's so vocal and so talented and
Speaker 1: has touched so many people, and it's one thing to
Speaker 1: have a memorial to recognize their life. You should, but
Speaker 1: then what, you know, what's the next step. If you
Speaker 1: can't use these moments of tragedy to inspire a movement,
Speaker 1: to get people involved in ways they probably wouldn't have
Speaker 1: been involved in the first place, then it's on for nothing.
Speaker 1: So the idea was to take this and motivate folks
Speaker 1: to re engage the system. It's an extension of the
Speaker 1: same message you and I have been preaching for twenty years. Yep,
Speaker 1: it's just that it has to be I think it
Speaker 1: has to be spoken again and again and again because
Speaker 1: people are so busy, and we're so distracted, and it's
Speaker 1: hard to stay focused on the issues that really matter.
Speaker 1: And so we use the event to kind of focus
Speaker 1: people and to do what Charlie would have done, and
Speaker 1: that is to keep finding and to try to spread
Speaker 1: this gospel of conservatism.
Speaker 2: Speaking about doing what Charlie would have done, This Southern
Speaker 2: miss Turning Point USA group has invited you, and you've
Speaker 2: already accepted my understanding, to host a proved me wrong
Speaker 2: debate there on campus. How important is it to keep
Speaker 2: Charlie's legacy of encouraging debate alive? And of course I
Speaker 2: think you've already answered my next question, which was safety
Speaker 2: concerns about doing it sounds like based on what you've
Speaker 2: already seen from the security, you feel pretty safe.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, here's the thing. The reason it's important is
Speaker 1: because it's not so much to win a debate or
Speaker 1: to lose a debate. That's not really the reason these
Speaker 1: things happen. Don't get me wrong. We're gonna have a
Speaker 1: good time debating, good time fighting. But that's not the
Speaker 1: point of any of this, and it wasn't the point
Speaker 1: from his perspective either. You go into the devil's den,
Speaker 1: so to speak, and I'm not seeing us illments that
Speaker 1: I'm saying that college campuses are known to be heavily
Speaker 1: influenced by the American left. Yes, and you know when
Speaker 1: you go to those places that you're going to be
Speaker 1: outnumbered and some very smart people are going to be
Speaker 1: asking tough questions. That's good because there has to be
Speaker 1: a time in this country, I think, even now, where
Speaker 1: we can have these debates, be civil about it and
Speaker 1: then not let it turn angry or violent. So we
Speaker 1: learn lessons about how to disagree agreeably, and we learn
Speaker 1: lessons about how universities are supposed to be market places
Speaker 1: of ideas and not just this monolithic approach toward liberalism.
Speaker 1: So if you can sit in a university and you
Speaker 1: can allow the conservative message to be heard, that alone
Speaker 1: is a victory because a lot of those folks aren't
Speaker 1: hearing it at all. So just sitting there having the
Speaker 1: conversation is a positive thing for the students, for the speakers,
Speaker 1: everyone involves. So I'm not going there to win. I'm
Speaker 1: going there to be part of a winning effort by
Speaker 1: expressing myself while we still can in college campuses. So look,
Speaker 1: it's a I think it's gonna be a fun event.
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to it absolutely, Chris. When is that?
Speaker 1: I want to see November the eleventh, November the allow
Speaker 1: I have to get you a time for that.
Speaker 2: You know, what do you know if it's another outdoor
Speaker 2: event or indoor event, or have you been told.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna we're not gonna announce that yet.
Speaker 2: I don't don't blame you, uh switching gears again, Chris.
Speaker 2: The government has been shut down now counting today twenty
Speaker 2: six days. First question, why do you think the Democrats
Speaker 2: feel like this is a winning strategy for them? You know,
Speaker 2: because so far they won't bend. And second question is
Speaker 2: how long do you take think it will take before
Speaker 2: the Republicans finally cave.
Speaker 1: Oh, they're both sides will blink pretty soon. Now talk
Speaker 1: about the shutdown twenty six days roughly, And to be
Speaker 1: honest with you, I haven't noticed a single change in
Speaker 1: my life either. Now. That is the mark in the
Speaker 1: nature of being an independent minded, strong Republican. You see,
Speaker 1: I'm check stopping. My checks are still moving towards me too,
Speaker 1: because then I'll work for the government. More importantly, I'm
Speaker 1: not a ward of the government. They're not my master
Speaker 1: the way they are some people. So I can look
Speaker 1: at this for what it is. Has absolutely nothing to
Speaker 1: do with my life whatsoever. And to me, that's the
Speaker 1: pinnacle of my success of being an independent minded human being.
Speaker 1: You shouldn't go through life being dependent on the government
Speaker 1: or anything else.
Speaker 2: Right, I agree?
Speaker 1: All right, So here we are, and we're hearing those
Speaker 1: that are dependent screaming bloody murder. I'm not seeing those
Speaker 1: are bad people. Some of those folks are victims of
Speaker 1: democratic party that's got them trapped in a system. Others
Speaker 1: legitimately so, were injured or have disability where they can't
Speaker 1: break apart from this dependence. And those people need our
Speaker 1: care support. However, we're talking about just the shutdown whatever,
Speaker 1: twenty six days, it could have been two hours. I
Speaker 1: have no idea because I had no impact on most
Speaker 1: of our lives. So I think we overstate that. Now,
Speaker 1: your question was the Democrats, why aren't they bending? Here's
Speaker 1: why they're not bending. Historically speaking, most Americans tend to
Speaker 1: blame Republicans for the shutdowns. Yep. So the Democrats think
Speaker 1: this is a good pr strategy for them. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's working for them very well this time, for
Speaker 1: a lot of different reasons. Number Two, you asked me
Speaker 1: whether the Republicans cave or The answer is yes, both
Speaker 1: sides are going to caves somewhat, and then both sides
Speaker 1: will claim victory. It's going to happen pretty soon because
Speaker 1: by the middle of November, some of the military payments
Speaker 1: will begin to cease happening, and there'll be other problems
Speaker 1: with government that occur, they're saying, and that's going to
Speaker 1: ratchetup the anxiety level for both sides. But neither side's
Speaker 1: going to get a big victory, and both are going
Speaker 1: to claim big victories. Then they're going to use the
Speaker 1: social media networks to make it sound like everything was
Speaker 1: perfect on their behalf and both sides will fall for
Speaker 1: it and nothing will ever change. Do I sound frustrated?
Speaker 1: I am frustrated. And here's why, all these years of
Speaker 1: all these knuckleheads we elect and they can't even pass
Speaker 1: a budget. It's the most basic thing of leadership to
Speaker 1: pass a budget. And they don't continuing resolutions, that's what
Speaker 1: they're doing. So what's a continuing resolution? You say, let's
Speaker 1: take the Biden era of spending, which was already two
Speaker 1: that gum high, and you just sign and keep it
Speaker 1: going with some expenditures that are increased just for the
Speaker 1: heck of it. I suppose that's not winning. No, you
Speaker 1: see the problem. The Republicans now are flexing over this,
Speaker 1: but they're spending bidened era moneys exactly at the same levels.
Speaker 1: That's not a victory. That's called massive depth suspending and
Speaker 1: massive debts. And then get this, we tinker around the edges.
Speaker 1: We'll cut something here and something here. It's budget dust.
Speaker 1: It's budget dust. It's not decreasing the outlays overall expenditures.
Speaker 1: Don't take my word for it. The CBO Independent Congressional
Speaker 1: Budget Office just read their reports on where this is heading.
Speaker 1: It's a nightmare scenario. So look, it's frustrating because I
Speaker 1: hear all this posturing, but nothing's really being done. No,
Speaker 1: you know what, I know it. Anybody that pays attention
Speaker 1: to the system knows it. It's the same little circle
Speaker 1: of life in Washington. Yep, nothing ever really changes.
Speaker 2: And it's it's frustrating, Chris, because I mean, you had
Speaker 2: when Elon Musk first went in there and they created Doge.
Speaker 2: You know, you he had home that maybe and they
Speaker 2: found a lot of area it was just dust, as
Speaker 2: you were talking about. They found areas that they could
Speaker 2: have cut, and they refuse to vote to codify those
Speaker 2: cuts anyway. And it was, like you said, it was
Speaker 2: just budget dust. It wasn't even the impactful that we
Speaker 2: truly need. But they wouldn't even commit to that.
Speaker 1: They won't. That's the problem both sides. I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: it's the same big machine. They don't disagree that money
Speaker 1: should be there, that government should grow. Now Republicans give
Speaker 1: it lip service. They say government shouldn't be so big.
Speaker 1: Then they go about around funded it like they always have.
Speaker 1: The distinction is that Republicans have their pet projects right
Speaker 1: the Democrats have their pet projects. Nobody's questioning whether it
Speaker 1: should be growing. They're only questioning where it should be spent.
Speaker 1: But either way, it's trillions and trillions and trillions and
Speaker 1: trillions of dollars in the hole, and we're adding to it,
Speaker 1: roughly a trillion dollars ever a couple of months. Now,
Speaker 1: you do this math and you look out into the
Speaker 1: future and you extrapolate these large sums and those of
Speaker 1: us that can add. We know there's going to be
Speaker 1: a day when this doesn't end well for the United
Speaker 1: States of America, and yet nobody cares. We're so preoccupied. Man.
Speaker 1: All that matters right now is can we own the
Speaker 1: left online? And if you go to their science, they're
Speaker 1: trying to own us online. But we're not winning. We're
Speaker 1: not they don't get me wrong. There have been momuds
Speaker 1: where if it appears we're winning, executive orders are great,
Speaker 1: but that's not winning. It's temporary. Yep, it's temporary. And
Speaker 1: that when that when, when it's reversed in three years,
Speaker 1: what have you done? What have you won?
Speaker 2: Nothing?
Speaker 1: That's the problem. Congress is given only its authority. They're
Speaker 1: doing absolutely nothing. There's nothing going into law that can
Speaker 1: change the direction of this country. It's all social media
Speaker 1: post and trash talk. I think we're heading down the
Speaker 1: wrong direction. That Don't get me wrong. It's not Trump's fault.
Speaker 1: He's doing what he can the very difficult circumstance. Congress
Speaker 1: is the problem, amen, and it always has been.
Speaker 2: Well. The one thing where I think Trump fails is
Speaker 2: he doesn't go after members of Congress the way that
Speaker 2: he should. He typically backs incumbents himself. And that's frustrating
Speaker 2: to me because these are the very people that are
Speaker 2: causing the problem and causing him headaches. But because they'll
Speaker 2: vote with him on a couple of issues, it seems
Speaker 2: that's enough for him to throw out that endorsement. I
Speaker 2: think he needs to reevaluate who he's endorsing person.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of Americans we scratch our heads
Speaker 1: and wonder why that's happening. What do you do? I
Speaker 1: can tell you this, three more years and everything that's
Speaker 1: been done will be undone yep, And then what do
Speaker 1: you have excepting a mess on your heads? Now? How
Speaker 1: do I know that's going to happen? The Democrats? You
Speaker 1: know how we had a project twenty twenty five and
Speaker 1: it colst All that uproar, you saw that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was political dust.
Speaker 1: I saw Democrats the other day claim that they're going
Speaker 1: to have Project twenty twenty nine. And so here we are.
Speaker 1: Now here we are.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: One group pays control and they implement all the executive orders.
Speaker 1: They and they do their best to tinker with the machinery.
Speaker 1: And then the other group plays control and that erases
Speaker 1: everything that was done. And then this is how the
Speaker 1: government begins to operate over the next fifteen to twenty
Speaker 1: thirty years. Nobody trust anybody, but no real changes are
Speaker 1: being implemented. I'm telling you the only way to save
Speaker 1: this place is to decentralize that federal government. The only
Speaker 1: way we save this country is to reduce its size
Speaker 1: and its power and its scope. And right now nobody
Speaker 1: is inclined to do that. So you have this up
Speaker 1: and down and up and down. Where does that end it? Selt,
Speaker 1: more debt, more loss of civil liberties, and more chaos
Speaker 1: on the streets. Right, Decentralize the Fed, bring the powers
Speaker 1: back to the States, and you'll see some degree of
Speaker 1: peace in our time. We've said that something blue in
Speaker 1: the faith. Let California be California but let Mississippi be Mississippi,
Speaker 1: and let's quit fighting over that sixty square miles up
Speaker 1: there in that swamp. Right, absolutely, But nobody wants to
Speaker 1: do that.
Speaker 2: No, And it's it's frustrating because they know what we know.
Speaker 2: It's not like they're oblivious to the debt. I don't
Speaker 2: want to get into because we're coming close to the break,
Speaker 2: so I don't want to go into the next question.
Speaker 2: But I do want to ask you, you know, still
Speaker 2: on this topic, especially because we've brought up the debt
Speaker 2: down twice, how how much longer do we have, Chris
Speaker 2: before we finally drive off that financial cliff.
Speaker 1: That's the crazy question because it's an impossible thing to
Speaker 1: quantify precisely. It can't be done. What we know is
Speaker 1: is that as the debt increases, the credit worthiness of
Speaker 1: the US can be questioned by outside investors. Have you
Speaker 1: ever heard of a credit downgrade? I have? Yeah, Okay,
Speaker 1: that happens from time to time with companies. Right. The
Speaker 1: reason that happens is the company's investment isn't quite as
Speaker 1: stable as it once was a few years ago, so
Speaker 1: it's this is a downgrade. The same thing is slowly
Speaker 1: happening to the dollar and to the American government, where
Speaker 1: we have the ability to pay almost all. We've never
Speaker 1: defaulted on pain borrowers that have borrowed our binds and
Speaker 1: they expect us small interest rate in return. We've never
Speaker 1: had a problem paying it back. What happens one day
Speaker 1: if all those bars decide that we're no longer a
Speaker 1: safe investment. Yeah, and then they begin to pull those investments.
Speaker 1: They go elsewhere because, don't get me wrong, China and
Speaker 1: Russia have a vested interest and trying to create another world,
Speaker 1: if you will, where investors are more concerned with areas
Speaker 1: outside of the US are supposed to inside the US.
Speaker 1: If that happens, how do we bridge the gap between
Speaker 1: what we're bringing in and we're paying out? And the
Speaker 1: answer is you cannot. And so at some point they'll
Speaker 1: be widespread, widespread cuts in the FED. No, I'm okay
Speaker 1: with that, but you have better be prepared for a
Speaker 1: significant disruption in things that have been normal for an
Speaker 1: awful long time. Right, Yeah, when is that date? Nobody knows,
Speaker 1: but it's coming. It's coming. It's just a matter of time.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It's definitely frustrating because we know, I mean, you've got
Speaker 2: Democrats got their foot on the accelerator towards that cliff.
Speaker 2: Republicans just seem to have set cruise control but still
Speaker 2: had the same path. So it's definitely frustrating. Chris. I'll
Speaker 2: take us to the break just because I want to
Speaker 2: tease you know what's coming next. When we get back.
Speaker 2: I want to ask Chris about this former ole Miss
Speaker 2: employee that's suing the university over her termination. I think
Speaker 2: it's Chris being an attorney. I think we'll be able
Speaker 2: to give us some extra insights into this, but we'll
Speaker 2: get into that when we get back from this. Word
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Speaker 1: Skate to River Resort, Welcome back to Chris mcdalel's America.
Speaker 1: Here on the midnight Ride. We're going through a series
Speaker 1: of Q and A is today and you were just
Speaker 1: about to ask about.
Speaker 2: There's a former ole Miss employee that is suing the
Speaker 2: university over her termination. Her name is Lauren Stokes, a
Speaker 2: former executive assistant in the University of Misissippi's Development office.
Speaker 2: She said, of course, she was terminated over a social
Speaker 2: media post that she endorsed on what the media calls
Speaker 2: her private Instagram. But social media is not truly private.
Speaker 2: It's hence the name social. You know, she said something
Speaker 2: about Charlie Kirk, the right wing activist and CEO of
Speaker 2: Turning Point USA. Chris, have you have you seen? First off,
Speaker 2: you saw what she what the post she shared, which
Speaker 2: was ridiculously absurd and in sensitive. You of course also
Speaker 2: saw when the university acted quickly and terminated her. Have
Speaker 2: you seen the suit yet? And does she have any standing?
Speaker 1: Let's talk about that. First of all, I am over
Speaker 1: here shrinking into the ground. My chair is doing this
Speaker 1: and has been for some time. At some point I
Speaker 1: probably won't be seen over the table.
Speaker 2: It's been funny to watch from my hittite point.
Speaker 1: I'm will try to correct it, but i'll you know,
Speaker 1: I'll follow.
Speaker 2: Or so it might be the fault of my coworker,
Speaker 2: Kevin Lindsay, because he sits in that chair later in
Speaker 2: the week, so it might be Kevin's fault.
Speaker 1: We'll blame Kevin. Kevin five foot three, his feet not
Speaker 1: touch the ground and he says like a big boy. Anyway. Yes,
Speaker 1: here's here's the way free speech works. Okay, And this
Speaker 1: is a complicated subject for a lot of people because
Speaker 1: people believe they have the right to say whenever, however,
Speaker 1: and there are no ramifications for it, no repercussions if
Speaker 1: you will. It's not the way it works in real life.
Speaker 1: Now here's the way it works. A private employer and
Speaker 1: private individuals can take action against your free speech at
Speaker 1: any time, any way they want to. You say, how
Speaker 1: can that be, Well, the constitution protects you against government action.
Speaker 1: We call it state action. It doesn't protect you against
Speaker 1: personal action or individual action. Say, for example, you come
Speaker 1: to my house and you start seeing some really stupid stuff,
Speaker 1: I have every right to kick you out of the house.
Speaker 1: You can't claim you have a First Amendment right to
Speaker 1: speak in my house or in my yarn for that matter.
Speaker 1: So remember, it takes government action or state action to
Speaker 1: kind of implicate this First Amendment protection. What's the constitution
Speaker 1: say government shall not, government shall not. It doesn't say
Speaker 1: jack shall not. It says government shall not right. So
Speaker 1: keep that in mind first of all. But a small
Speaker 1: liberal might say, wait a second, the university is part
Speaker 1: of the government, and you would be correct there. So
Speaker 1: as a general rule, a state entity or agency cannot
Speaker 1: take action punitive action against someone based on speech that's accurate.
Speaker 1: They can't However, if the speech is disruptive to the
Speaker 1: learning environment or disruptive for the organization's purpose, then you
Speaker 1: can take action. So it becomes a factually important case
Speaker 1: from that perspective. So she makes this comment and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, there's this massive Bruvaha University. Right, Folks
Speaker 1: are fighting, Folks are aggravating, folks are pointing fingers. Donors
Speaker 1: are about to quit given money. That is a type
Speaker 1: of thing that disrupts the learning process, that disrupts the
Speaker 1: purpose of the organization. That is not protected speech. If
Speaker 1: it were, it would be chaos everywhere. So she's going
Speaker 1: to lose her lawsuit. Now, granted, the way universities work,
Speaker 1: there'll be some settlement at some point. Yeah, they're not
Speaker 1: going to take it to court. It's just it's just
Speaker 1: not so. It'll just fade away. One day, she'll get
Speaker 1: a she'll get a little something on the side, and
Speaker 1: then it'll go away. And that's what's gonna happen. But
Speaker 1: she doesn't have a strongly Okay.
Speaker 2: Now, Chris, you know, it's one of those things that
Speaker 2: I find fascinating because you've got people screaming as the
Speaker 2: First Amendment violation, because they don't understand what you just
Speaker 2: explained that.
Speaker 1: Se you got the camera off of me, and I hope.
Speaker 2: It's I hope it's locked in on them. We're having
Speaker 2: a serious show, and Chris is over here shrinking. This
Speaker 2: is this is fun of life?
Speaker 1: It okay? Down here? Now? Is this better? Can you
Speaker 1: see the better? I'm higher.
Speaker 2: I don't think you're any I think you're lower. I'm
Speaker 2: lost now I'm wondering if I just need to move
Speaker 2: on to the next.
Speaker 1: Even this is not blocking my face right, Oh goodness.
Speaker 2: But no, this thought that they have that it's a
Speaker 2: First Amendment issue, they clearly haven't listened to what you
Speaker 2: just said, haven't done any research because there's so many
Speaker 2: misinterpretations of the First Amendment. And I think the other thing, Chris,
Speaker 2: is a social media page, even if it's your page,
Speaker 2: is it ever truly private? Because the same hypocritical mainstream
Speaker 2: media that is saying her private Instagram page, they're the
Speaker 2: very ones that will go to someone they disagree with
Speaker 2: private Instagram page and plaster what they set out for everyone.
Speaker 1: Well, generally speaking, activity taken on social media is private
Speaker 1: for the most part, But did that private conduct interfere
Speaker 1: with the learning environment and to interfere with the US
Speaker 1: elder or the university substantial purpose. Yeah, so it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter necessarily if it was solely private. If it did so,
Speaker 1: it gets complicated. She still doesn't have a strong case
Speaker 1: at all. It's gonna settle for nothing and she's gonna
Speaker 1: walk a long way and that's gonna be the end
Speaker 1: of it. But that's the USM was University Mississippi.
Speaker 2: Yeah it was Ole Miss?
Speaker 1: Yes, How did I don't even know how I Miss
Speaker 1: spoke there. It seems like every liberal now goes to
Speaker 1: the University of Mississippi.
Speaker 2: But we were talking about Southern Miss at start and
Speaker 2: then switch gears. It's easy.
Speaker 1: It's mind bogging. I went, I went to law school
Speaker 1: at Ole Miss.
Speaker 2: Was it that bad then?
Speaker 1: No? No, no, no, but you could sense it. It was.
Speaker 1: It was happening. It was happening. Now it's like it's
Speaker 1: it's it's really a strange thing for the leftist right.
Speaker 1: They hate the South, they hate us to like old
Speaker 1: miss that have this strict social hierarchy of sorts, but
Speaker 1: they can't wait to get there and raise hell. And
Speaker 1: it's something it's kind of like, if you hate us,
Speaker 1: if you hate a spot so badly, why not just
Speaker 1: go somewhere else. I mean, Stanford would love to have you. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: Berkeley at Berkeley would love to have you. Why come
Speaker 1: down here and mess this up? Right? But for the
Speaker 1: last couple of years there's been a couple of these
Speaker 1: professors at All Missed that have been super vocal. And again,
Speaker 1: some of that is protected speech, but when it goes
Speaker 1: a little too far, it can become problematic for that party,
Speaker 1: and it should be.
Speaker 2: It should be a problem for speaking of raising hell,
Speaker 2: Chris that recently there was the No King's two point
Speaker 2: zero protest, you know, their second go around to this
Speaker 2: silly nonsense. Uh you know, I mean, I'm sure you
Speaker 2: saw it. Everybody saw. Of course, the media was inflating
Speaker 2: the numbers. I hate, I hate to tell you guys,
Speaker 2: they didn't have seven million protesters in the United States
Speaker 2: last weekend. Never in buying that. Matter of fact, some
Speaker 2: of the video and photographs they showed to the protests
Speaker 2: were from previous events. I'm ninety nine percent sure the
Speaker 2: photos of the protests in Chicago were from the Cubs Morsinia.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, though, it doesn't really matter. I mean,
Speaker 1: seven million Our country has worth three hundred million people
Speaker 1: in it, and so one point five percent decided to
Speaker 1: do something.
Speaker 2: I mean, what are we supposed to impressive context?
Speaker 1: So I mean there's three hundred plus million people and
Speaker 1: seven million show up. Okay, it's cute. Now here's the thing.
Speaker 1: I don't mind those protests.
Speaker 2: I don't either.
Speaker 1: I think people have to understand the distinction here. I
Speaker 1: think people should protest both right and left. I think
Speaker 1: it's good for the country when there's descent. But it's
Speaker 1: so hypocritical. It's so hypocritical. These are the same people
Speaker 1: that bowed down to a health czar when it came
Speaker 1: to shots and mask and there were no kings. Then
Speaker 1: these are the same people that built the imperial president presidency.
Speaker 1: From Woodrow Wilson to F. D. R. To Lyndon Johnson
Speaker 1: to Bill Clinton to Barack Obama. They built the imperial
Speaker 1: presidency and now Trump grabs a hold of it and
Speaker 1: they think somehow there's a king involved now that they
Speaker 1: didn't mind when they had the kings. They just mind
Speaker 1: when we have the king. First of all, I don't
Speaker 1: like kings. I know you don't like kings either, but
Speaker 1: I still can't seem to find one. I've been looking
Speaker 1: for one in this country. The only person I've seen
Speaker 1: they think is a king is Trump. And he was elected,
Speaker 1: wasn't he? How many kings are elected in a lot,
Speaker 1: It just doesn't happen. It doesn't, and very often democratically
Speaker 1: elected in an affair election, according to liberals themselves. And
Speaker 1: he wins the electoral college, he wins the popular vote,
Speaker 1: but they still call him a king. And it's weird
Speaker 1: because what has he done that involves a dictate influencing
Speaker 1: their individual behavior? Because I don't know if any king
Speaker 1: that would have allowed seven million people to protest, much
Speaker 1: less seventy. Yeah, right, he let them protest. That's not
Speaker 1: king like material. But the point is it's so hypocritical
Speaker 1: because they create this office of all this power. You
Speaker 1: do realize the presidency, the executive not always had the
Speaker 1: power it does today, and the liberals for years turned
Speaker 1: the blind eye, allowed it to empower itself beyond recognition.
Speaker 1: And we told him, We told them, and they scoffed
Speaker 1: at us. We said, one day, it's going to turn
Speaker 1: on you, and they always had the same reframe. No,
Speaker 1: our presidents are better and they're never going to use
Speaker 1: this for bad purposes. Well, of course they're not their men.
Speaker 1: And those Democratic presidents did use the office for bad purposes,
Speaker 1: and they did the Espionage Act, Wilson, the arrest of
Speaker 1: Japanese citizens of World War two FDR. They've used it
Speaker 1: for a men bad acts. Democrats didn't care that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: didn't care that. They create this big thron and then
Speaker 1: they wonder why somebody else wants to sit at it.
Speaker 2: Did you notice that I have, Chris, and I think
Speaker 2: you have a pretty good column on this topic that
Speaker 2: you can find right now at the at Leader call
Speaker 2: dot com. So it's a you've definitely and you've repeated
Speaker 2: some of it right there, but it's a really good column.
Speaker 2: I encourage folks to go seek out. You've already shared
Speaker 2: it on your Socialist so folks can find it there.
Speaker 2: Of course, you know you brought up some of the
Speaker 2: things you know. Of course, I don't know if any
Speaker 2: of these protesters know exactly what they're protesting. I've yet
Speaker 2: to truly understand it.
Speaker 1: It's not clear. It's not clear they we know they
Speaker 1: hate President Trump. Outside of that, it's not real clear
Speaker 1: what's happening. It's perplexing because if you talk to people
Speaker 1: in the inner cities, or for that matter, just me.
Speaker 1: I'm not inner cities, any big city where crime is
Speaker 1: a problem, the moms and dads there, the citizens of
Speaker 1: that town, they'll all tell you the same thing. I
Speaker 1: wish something could be done about the crime rate. And
Speaker 1: that's Democrats, and that's Republicans and independence. I wish something
Speaker 1: could be done about the crime rate. It's just though,
Speaker 1: though they hate Trump so much, they're willing to defend
Speaker 1: crime before they all say he's doing something positive.
Speaker 2: They kind of aren't defending crime with their protests.
Speaker 1: So that's what I said. They're defending crime, so they
Speaker 1: can't give him any credit for doing something positive. It's
Speaker 1: irrational and I don't understand it. Do they have a
Speaker 1: right to do it? Absolutely? Yep? Should they find not
Speaker 1: yourselves out, But it doesn't make a lot of sense
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 2: Well, Chris, you know one thing that they're mad is
Speaker 2: all get out about is Trump's destruction of the East
Speaker 2: Wing to build this new ballroom. You know, the East
Speaker 2: Wing was built in nineteen o two, but it was
Speaker 2: re done in nineteen forty two under FDR. Democrats are
Speaker 2: screaming this is destroying history. And again, these are the
Speaker 2: same Democrats who were willing to tear down statues.
Speaker 1: Way destroying history. And yeah, when those mobsters there's mobs.
Speaker 1: Every protest they've had in the last what several years,
Speaker 1: has been violent and cities got burned. Those buildings were
Speaker 1: historical property as well, and they didn't seem to care
Speaker 1: about that. They didn't care about the books being rewritten
Speaker 1: and removed from libraries. They didn't care about the monuments
Speaker 1: being torn down or flags changed. They cared about none
Speaker 1: of that history. Why is this history all of a
Speaker 1: sudden so important because it's Trump? Because it's Trump. That's
Speaker 1: exactly what they hate him that much. Look, look, I'm
Speaker 1: the same way. I don't like seeing pictures of historical
Speaker 1: buildings that have been altered or destroyed, but were being
Speaker 1: misled just a bit because these alterations happen all the time.
Speaker 1: And what I have to prefer that he retained the swing.
Speaker 1: Maybe am I losing any sleep over it? No, because
Speaker 1: what he's done, I guarantee you what's going to happen.
Speaker 1: When it's done, It's going to be a gorgeous, beautiful
Speaker 1: structure and everybody's going to be proud of it. At
Speaker 1: some point. It's just they can't stand the idea that
Speaker 1: he could do something without being hated for it.
Speaker 2: What about Representative Eric Solwell from California him saying the
Speaker 2: next Democratic presidential nominee must vow to demolish Trump's ballroom.
Speaker 1: Yeah silly, this says, so, no matter how beautiful it
Speaker 1: may be, or the fact that it didn't cost the
Speaker 1: taxpayers any money, just because it was built by him,
Speaker 1: it has to be redestroyed. But there's a lesson there,
Speaker 1: because this is the way they're going to see the world.
Speaker 1: Whatever we've done up to this point, they will vow
Speaker 1: to destroy, and then four years after that will vow
Speaker 1: to reinvoke, and then four years after that they'll vow
Speaker 1: to destroy until we figure out this is a pat
Speaker 1: and they can't be reconciled or corrected. You're going to
Speaker 1: see nothing but violence and heartache in this country. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, take the power away from Washington, bring it
Speaker 1: back to the States. Have some order and some dignity
Speaker 1: left before this thing gets out of control. Because you're right,
Speaker 1: that's exactly what they're going to do. Everything he's trying.
Speaker 1: Here's an interesting component. What about this. We know that
Speaker 1: Trump's been great trying to secure the border right right now,
Speaker 1: He's made a whole bunch for rest trying to secure
Speaker 1: the border and to maintain the integrity of our immigration laws.
Speaker 1: How do they reverse that? Does everybody get to come
Speaker 1: in for four years? You see what I'm getting at here.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's so ridiculous, just law and order and structure.
Speaker 1: Institutions should matter a little bit, but they don't seem
Speaker 1: to matter to the Democrats. So long as Trump has
Speaker 1: utilized the institution, and if he's touched the institution, it
Speaker 1: all has.
Speaker 2: To go absolutely. So whatever, Well, Chris, this one I
Speaker 2: don't want to spend a lot of time on because
Speaker 2: I've got I've got a more fun one we're going
Speaker 2: to go to. But I'm sure you've seen that Kamala
Speaker 2: Harris is teasing another run for president. Just how delusional
Speaker 2: is Let her run be fabulous only if she gets
Speaker 2: to be the nominee again. If she just run runs,
Speaker 2: I mean, seriously, she has no shots.
Speaker 1: It's still positive though, because they have to spend money
Speaker 1: against each other, So I mean, yeah, let it jump
Speaker 1: on in there. I mean, let AOC be a running mate.
Speaker 1: Let's have a good time. With this, it'd be the
Speaker 1: best thing that happened to our party.
Speaker 2: And AOC against one another in her primary.
Speaker 1: They I don't think they would ever do that. They
Speaker 1: seem to share too much in common philosophically. Would that
Speaker 1: be fun though, like Rock the Sock them robots up? There,
Speaker 1: wouldn't it. I would love to see those two ladies
Speaker 1: fighting over an issue that which neither one of them
Speaker 1: understand anything about.
Speaker 2: May be fighting over a single brain cell.
Speaker 1: I mean it would be. It would be a very
Speaker 1: limited debate, and then it would basically come down to
Speaker 1: insults at some point. But that's where it gets really tricky,
Speaker 1: because how does one insult the other without being considered
Speaker 1: a sexist or somehow e racist.
Speaker 2: It's really complex, it's it's it's a problem.
Speaker 1: I would love to see it. I think that. I
Speaker 1: think what you're going to find is that Harris will
Speaker 1: figure out at some point that she can't raise the
Speaker 1: capital to be formidable anymore. And I did read where
Speaker 1: the Democrat donors have been very reluctant to give her
Speaker 1: a ton of money this time because they're trying to
Speaker 1: figure out how the heck to want to race right,
Speaker 1: And here's here's my advice to you Democrat donors as
Speaker 1: to how the heck to want to raise a quit
Speaker 1: being so ridiculously stupid about these crazy issues.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: For instance, a man is a man and a woman
Speaker 1: is a woman. Simple, really simple stuff. Number two, there
Speaker 1: aren't birth givers. They're moms. Just little little things in
Speaker 1: the language that will go a long way. But they
Speaker 1: can't because they're too tied to the blue haired ladies
Speaker 1: that are out there protesting. They don't know what, but
Speaker 1: they're out there protesting, and that's what's controlling the entire
Speaker 1: democratic now. It's the tail wagon the dog. There may
Speaker 1: still be a moderate out there somewhere, but I haven't
Speaker 1: heard or seen from them in years, have you? Because
Speaker 1: the radicals are taking control of the party, and you've
Speaker 1: got Jeffreys yelling like a lunatic on one hand, you've got
Speaker 1: the blue haired ladies out there in the streets on
Speaker 1: the other. What about just common sense? They can't even let.
Speaker 2: The building a long time again.
Speaker 1: They used to be a party they claim that would
Speaker 1: take care of the working man, but the working men
Speaker 1: don't even trust them anymore because what have they done
Speaker 1: for the working man? The answer is nothing, because that's
Speaker 1: toxic masculinity, and they don't like men anymore. So what
Speaker 1: are they supposed to do sel keep losing elections. I
Speaker 1: hope they do. Keep going down this path of LUNACYE.
Speaker 1: This third world thing you've got going New York will
Speaker 1: be a fine example as well as to how your
Speaker 1: policies fail. Go and elect the guy. Let's watch him
Speaker 1: govern for four years and you'll finally see that socialism
Speaker 1: will never work in this country.
Speaker 2: But knock yourselves out absolutely when you said birthing and
Speaker 2: it reminded me of when your son Cambridge came in,
Speaker 2: because when I read that to him, he just lost it.
Speaker 2: He could not stop laughing at the ridiculousness of it.
Speaker 1: Well, you know it starts there. It's all so silly.
Speaker 1: They premise everything their entire party is based on the
Speaker 1: evilness of America. I think if they want Americans to
Speaker 1: vote for them, that's fair. You know, I've never seen
Speaker 1: a party that tholtha. I heard Bill Maher say this,
Speaker 1: and it really made me laugh out loud. They think
Speaker 1: the nineteen fifties are so backwards, but the fifteen fifties
Speaker 1: were cool. That's fair when you have the Native Americans
Speaker 1: out here and they were doing Lord and knows what
Speaker 1: to each other, trying to kill each other. That was
Speaker 1: a perfect society to the liberals, because you're so busy
Speaker 1: trying to hate America, they can't even comprehend history. And
Speaker 1: so if you start with that premise and you say, listen,
Speaker 1: we start here to run for office, we say we
Speaker 1: love America. But you just saw us over the last
Speaker 1: six months demeaning every good thing about the right. Yep,
Speaker 1: it's not working. We know in our heart of hearts.
Speaker 1: It's a simple calculation. Those that love the country, though
Speaker 1: we may have some mistakes on our side of the equation,
Speaker 1: we love the country, and those that clearly do not
Speaker 1: love the country, even though they say they do, so
Speaker 1: we're not falling for that. I don't think the American
Speaker 1: voters will either.
Speaker 2: No, I don't either, Chris, and I don't want to
Speaker 2: again because I've got a good one I want to
Speaker 2: get to. But you brought up the New York race, simple,
Speaker 2: simple question. Do you think the socialist is going to
Speaker 2: win that race or do you think the former governor
Speaker 2: has closed that gap? Because for a while it looked
Speaker 2: like it was going to be a runaway for the socialists.
Speaker 1: I think he's closed it, but I think in a
Speaker 1: three party rate through person race like that, the socialist
Speaker 1: has the advantage. Here's the thing. I realize the more
Speaker 1: moderate conservative New Yorkers are petrified by this. And I'm
Speaker 1: not suggesting that anybody wants him to win. I don't.
Speaker 1: I know you don't. But if he don't, at least
Speaker 1: it's a training ground for their stupid, ignorant political philosophies.
Speaker 2: Amen.
Speaker 1: And when it fails, and it will fail, because it's
Speaker 1: failed everywhere else it's been tried, at least maybe Americans
Speaker 1: will have enough of that bad taste in their mouth
Speaker 1: watching it fail that they'll never repeat the mistake.
Speaker 2: You would hope.
Speaker 1: But it will fail. You'll see that city will be
Speaker 1: he's gonna run industry out. He's going to run investors out.
Speaker 1: Crime is going to soar, and they'll be shortages. And
Speaker 1: it happens so faster to make your head spin.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And like I said, as much as we don't wish
Speaker 2: misery on anyone, if you vote for misery, you get
Speaker 2: what you deserve to deserve, Chris, this, this is gonna
Speaker 2: be the fun one here, you know, because we've all
Speaker 2: heard by now about this three I at Lis thing
Speaker 2: that is, you know, this interstellar We don't know if
Speaker 2: it's comment. There's speculation about it. Cparently, NASA was able
Speaker 2: to take photographs of it when it went past Mores,
Speaker 2: but we don't know if they did. Because they're blaming
Speaker 2: the government shut down, they're not releasing Let me tell you.
Speaker 1: What do you think. I'll tell you what's going on here? Okay,
Speaker 1: this is the third interstellar object that we are aware
Speaker 1: of entering our Solar system. And you might say, what
Speaker 1: is an interstellar object? What's something that comes from outside
Speaker 1: of where we are? There is a The universe isn't
Speaker 1: always consistent, but there are consistent patterns. Gravity creates those patterns, right,
Speaker 1: and you've seen these patterns develop over millions of years.
Speaker 1: That's why we have planets that orbit around the Sun,
Speaker 1: and that's why we have a moon that orbits around
Speaker 1: the Earth. Gravity creates patterns. This Atlas comment, we'll call it,
Speaker 1: is behaving a little differently than the other interstutar objects
Speaker 1: that we've seen. First of all, it's larger, and second
Speaker 1: of all, it seems to have some unusual characteristics as
Speaker 1: it's really in its tail or not having a tail
Speaker 1: at all in some aspects. So there's been a Harvard
Speaker 1: physicist that has argued that he thinks this might be
Speaker 1: a foreign probe that is evidence of extraterrestrial life, and
Speaker 1: he says there's about a forty percent chance of that.
Speaker 1: And so what he's saying is is that this object
Speaker 1: now has gone behind the sun. And when the object
Speaker 1: goes behind the sun, we can't watch it. So keep
Speaker 1: in mind it's in a blind spot right now. NASA
Speaker 1: has told or asked asked all of the federally funded
Speaker 1: telescopes to be prepared as it comes back around the Sun,
Speaker 1: and let's get some really good pictures of this as
Speaker 1: it emerges from this dark area. The Harvard physicist seems
Speaker 1: to argue that he thinks they could be releasing probes,
Speaker 1: and these probes would surprise us because they would come
Speaker 1: from our blind spot and then maybe have some netherious
Speaker 1: or deadly purpose. Here's why I don't think that's the case.
Speaker 1: And I'm not being a smarter lick here, I'm just
Speaker 1: being sincere. There is an ant hill in my yard,
Speaker 1: small ant hill. I've never had to hide from it
Speaker 1: to attack it. Their inferior. They couldn't stop me if
Speaker 1: they wanted to. I don't have to release prose behind
Speaker 1: a blind spot on the sun. I can just walk
Speaker 1: up and attack of the ant hill. A civilization that
Speaker 1: can send a ship of that magnitude that distance have
Speaker 1: a way to break behind our son to release probes.
Speaker 1: Why would they have any fear of us intercepting the
Speaker 1: probes in the first place. It's nonsensical. We're the ant
Speaker 1: hell in the relative universe compared to higher technologies or
Speaker 1: higher if they exist or hire more advanced species, right,
Speaker 1: And there's an argument to be made that's the reason
Speaker 1: they haven't contacted us is because they fly over and
Speaker 1: they say they're not quite ready, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: look at these people. They're still treating cancer with poison.
Speaker 2: They can't tell you what a man or a woman is.
Speaker 1: So so they're just not quite ready to contact this.
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure about all that. This is all
Speaker 1: how they speculate. I think what you're gonna find at
Speaker 1: the end of this, it's a really unusually acting but
Speaker 1: mostly acting like a comet, and it's gonna behave like
Speaker 1: a comet, and that is gonna swoop around the Sun's
Speaker 1: gravity is going to change his directions just slightly. It's
Speaker 1: gonna then redirect itself back out of the Solar System
Speaker 1: at some point. Nothing to fear but a lot of speculation,
Speaker 1: and that's what you look. Wouldn't it be.
Speaker 2: Cool though, if it was an alien space and they're
Speaker 2: not here for a inferio. Wouldn't that be cool?
Speaker 1: Though? As long as they're here to be nice, right.
Speaker 2: Like Et comes down and he's you know, the same
Speaker 2: kind of character that he was in the I mean,
Speaker 2: it'd be cool.
Speaker 1: You know, with our attention spend, it would take about
Speaker 1: ten minutes we move on to the next problem.
Speaker 2: If somebody would try to, you know, say they'd started
Speaker 2: an anti alien movement, I'm sure right away they're here
Speaker 2: for no good or something. I mean, you know, do
Speaker 2: you know how the internet is?
Speaker 1: The crafts will blame Trump, Trump will blame the Democrats.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how to but I don't.
Speaker 1: I think this this Atlas device that the device is comment.
Speaker 1: It's what it is. It's a comment. And I think
Speaker 1: once it comes out back into visibility sometime around the
Speaker 1: middle of the month, well ten through elevel with I
Speaker 1: think they're saying.
Speaker 2: I think that's what I said. I've seen a couple
Speaker 2: of different dates.
Speaker 1: And at that stage we'll build a bunch of good
Speaker 1: pictures of it and study it more. And people say, well,
Speaker 1: how could you not know? Listen, y'all, we are still
Speaker 1: a fairly not very advanced civilization when it comes to space. Uh,
Speaker 1: this is a third interestelect object that we've studied. There
Speaker 1: have been others, but they were prior to our technology
Speaker 1: of being able to study. We're very limited still, and
Speaker 1: we're speculating and we're guessing. We have brilliant people, but
Speaker 1: we're just not quite there. And so that's why there's
Speaker 1: all the speculation is because even the brilliant folks are
Speaker 1: scratching their heads just a bit. But think of it
Speaker 1: from the comment sis perspective. If it were dangerous, if
Speaker 1: it meant harm, wouldn't have to go through all those maneuvers.
Speaker 2: That's that's my thing, the fact that they're going around
Speaker 2: the Sun, and I think if it was intelligent life,
Speaker 2: they'd have a clear straight path and wouldn't have to
Speaker 2: go behind the sun.
Speaker 1: They're going to use the sign. There's a there's a
Speaker 1: maneuver they call it, to use the hunt's gravity to
Speaker 1: sling shot back around and change the trajectory of the comment.
Speaker 1: But like you said, I feel were highly of species.
Speaker 1: It could do that on its own and it wouldn't
Speaker 1: have to worry about all those maneuvers that we have
Speaker 1: to worry about.
Speaker 2: And that's that's you know. But like I said, it's
Speaker 2: it's fun to talk about and watching some of the hysteria.
Speaker 2: Of course, you know the conspiracy theorist folks, that's been
Speaker 2: fun too.
Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you about that. We've talked about
Speaker 1: conspiracy theories on this show a few times in the past,
Speaker 1: and it's it's really fun to dive into only because
Speaker 1: there's no right or wrong answer, and people love being
Speaker 1: able to stay an opinion without being called out as
Speaker 1: being stupid. And that's why we have debates about sports
Speaker 1: all the time. Think about it. If you're in a
Speaker 1: sports bar and you're debating sports, I mean, it's a debate.
Speaker 1: It's subjective for the most part. It's very difficult to
Speaker 1: ascertain the best ever played or the best team that
Speaker 1: ever was, So you have all these cool arguments that
Speaker 1: can be made, but nobody can be proven wrong. It's
Speaker 1: the same with conspiracy theories. We're able to try to
Speaker 1: control it for a while and have fun with it,
Speaker 1: and it makes it gets us clicks online. Look, how
Speaker 1: brilliant is this Harvard physicist. He's probably pretty bright, very bright,
Speaker 1: and he's the one claiming this is a fortyce. But
Speaker 1: his real genius here is that now, for the first
Speaker 1: time in his career, he's famous, and the second time
Speaker 1: for the other. First thing is everybody's paying attention to
Speaker 1: space again. Yep. He probably did that just as a
Speaker 1: way to get us talking about these issues again.
Speaker 2: That's fair.
Speaker 1: That's how smart he probably really is. He doesn't think
Speaker 1: necessarily it's an alien spacecraft. You knew by saying it
Speaker 1: out loud it would generate a ton of bud.
Speaker 2: If he truly believe it was an alien spacecraft, I
Speaker 2: think he'd give it higher than forty percent too. Fair
Speaker 2: enough gets people's attention.
Speaker 1: It's a very large comment that's not going to strike
Speaker 1: the Earth, and we'll get some good pictures of it
Speaker 1: on the tenth or the eleventh, and if it turns
Speaker 1: out to be probes. There are three million Mississippians and
Speaker 1: we have seven million guns.
Speaker 2: We got a couple right behind you. We're ready. Well, Chris,
Speaker 2: you know again you brought up sports, and you're right
Speaker 2: that you know. Sports opinions are simple. You can't truly
Speaker 2: be proven wrong in some of them. Some you can
Speaker 2: like pickings, picking games, which you know. I'm here lately
Speaker 2: I seem to struggle with myself, but I'm gonna go
Speaker 2: ahead and ask you who. We've got Game three of
Speaker 2: the World Series coming up either Tomorrow night or Tuesday night.
Speaker 2: The series is tied at one one, Dodgers versus the
Speaker 2: Blue Jays, America versus Canada. Who's going to win the
Speaker 2: World Series?
Speaker 1: Chris? I think the Dodgers. Uh. Now, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1: Toronto is an exceptional baseball team with great pitch and
Speaker 1: a great hitting. But the Dodgers won it last year.
Speaker 1: They've been there before, and they also have great hitting
Speaker 1: and great pitching. I heard somebody argue the other day
Speaker 1: they thought Toronto had better pictures, and I thought, man,
Speaker 1: I don't see that. Yeah, as long as Yummi matto
Speaker 1: and uh not each body or even near the mound,
Speaker 1: the Dodgers have a chance every time they pitch. And
Speaker 1: that's now counting Schnelle.
Speaker 2: And the others.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's incredible, So I think the Dodgers
Speaker 1: have the slight edge. Now with that said, I want
Speaker 1: to see seven games. You know that. I want to
Speaker 1: see seven games. I want to see ten innings. I
Speaker 1: wanted to go down to the last couple of pitches.
Speaker 1: I want to see a good baseball series. And if
Speaker 1: the Dodgers lose, I'm okay with that. I just want
Speaker 1: to see I wanted to go down and write to it.
Speaker 1: I want to see greatness.
Speaker 2: And of course tonight the Packers at the Steelers playing
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers, playing against his former team. He has a chance,
Speaker 2: I think, to be the fifth person in the history
Speaker 2: of the NFL to beat every NFL franchise. So who
Speaker 2: you got in tonight's game? And remember the only correct
Speaker 2: answer is the Packers before they play in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, that changes things. Just to be at the
Speaker 1: Packers have had some ups and downs this year. They have,
Speaker 1: especially defensively and on the road. It might be a
Speaker 1: problem for him tonight. What's the spread?
Speaker 2: Say, I don't know the spread. I hadn't looked at it.
Speaker 1: You know you think about Pittsburgh's defense stinks too, I've
Speaker 1: heard I don't watch NFL much anymore. But I've heard
Speaker 1: and read that there's a huge disappointment as far as
Speaker 1: your defense this year. There. But then again, as much
Speaker 1: as I like the Packers, the one quarterback he would
Speaker 1: never vote against or pick against his name is Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2: That's fair.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen a lot of quarterbacks in my time,
Speaker 1: and I've seen a lot in person in my time.
Speaker 1: Ever seen a more accurate pastor a better quarterback than
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Now, with that said, he has something to prove,
Speaker 1: he says he doesn't. He says this is not a
Speaker 1: revenge game. I think he's gonna have a really big game.
Speaker 2: He does play better when he's got a chip on
Speaker 2: the show.
Speaker 1: He does, and he's a brilliant guy. And with that
Speaker 1: Kareem Bay defense being some you know, they've got talent,
Speaker 1: and when they're when they're rushing the passer, yeah, they're tough.
Speaker 2: And and the Pittsburgh doesn't have a great.
Speaker 1: Offense live that's the thing. So keep in mind, he's
Speaker 1: gonna have about two point eight seconds. He's gonna he
Speaker 1: takes us now two point eight seconds to get it off.
Speaker 1: But if anybody can do that and do it successfully.
Speaker 1: It's that dude, you know what I mean? He and
Speaker 1: Tom Brady the ability to take this now two point
Speaker 1: eight seconds, find somebody open and get it out. So again,
Speaker 1: I want to see a really good game, but I
Speaker 1: hope the Packers win naturally, but I want to see
Speaker 1: a good game.
Speaker 2: Of course, some of you will watch this after these
Speaker 2: games have been played, right, So if we're wrong or
Speaker 2: right on something, you can't hold it.
Speaker 1: You know a producer here, you know she's NFL Films.
Speaker 2: Now, yes she is. You actually shot that uh that
Speaker 2: overtime tie the other a few weeks back.
Speaker 1: Pretty cool, Pretty cool to know she's around all that
Speaker 1: greatness and here we are in this you know, small
Speaker 1: room burning up right now? Must be nice?
Speaker 2: Well, Chris, I always enjoy having a chance to flip
Speaker 2: the script a little bit, and I know you enjoy
Speaker 2: it because it means you don't necessarily have to pull
Speaker 2: stories together, and just not that you're not constantly reading,
Speaker 2: because if you weren't, you wouldn't have been able to
Speaker 2: answer these questions.
Speaker 1: But I'm not doing this again until I get a
Speaker 1: chair that works.
Speaker 2: Well. I'll get on to Kevin about breaking the chair
Speaker 2: because it had to have been Kevin.
Speaker 1: How are some tall people or something?
Speaker 2: I don't I don't think the issue is Kevin's height.
Speaker 1: Take up for him. Well, look, this has been an
Speaker 1: interesting because I am very very low to the ground.
Speaker 1: We're toward the end of this.
Speaker 2: We are we are straight up wrapping up.
Speaker 1: Good deal. Enjoyed it, Jack, Thanks for all the great questions,
Speaker 1: good interview. I had a good time. Issues were squared
Speaker 1: away as always. We appreciate you listening. Thank you for
Speaker 1: being a part of this. Any questions comments right there
Speaker 1: in the comment section underneath the video, and if not,
Speaker 1: we'll see you next week. This has been Chris McDaniel's America.
Speaker 1: Here on the Midnight Ride, the home of the anti
Speaker 1: establishment movement in this country. We'll see you soon. Thank you.
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