Speaker 1: Now one of your pudding. I got a string going
Speaker 1: on here, something just cause my dog. Something killed your dog,
Speaker 1: my dog. We're flying through the air over the tree.
Speaker 1: I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm
Speaker 1: really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over
Speaker 1: the fence and he was dead. And once you hit
Speaker 1: the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I
Speaker 1: saw was my dog coming over the fence. Sat what
Speaker 1: are you putting? We got some wonder or something crawling
Speaker 1: around out here? Did you see what it was? Or
Speaker 1: was it was? Standing enough? I'm out here looking through
Speaker 1: the window now and I don't see anything. I don't
Speaker 1: want to go outside. Jesus quice, you better New York. Hello,
Speaker 1: hit somebody out here?
Speaker 2: What went on out there?
Speaker 1: I thought of a bit just about sixty forty nine.
Speaker 1: I don't know easy him out there? Yeah, I'm right head.
Speaker 2: Oh hey, greetings, thanks for joining me. Todavis breadon Alaska.
Speaker 2: You might hear rain hitting the windshield. I'm doing this
Speaker 2: on the fly. Got a lot of background stuff going on.
Speaker 2: What I wanted to share with you today comes from Travis.
Speaker 2: Travis as a carpenter. He actually reached out a while
Speaker 2: back I worked with the guy years ago, back when
Speaker 2: I was an apprentice, but he had somehow stumbled across
Speaker 2: me on YouTube and was like, wait, I know that guy.
Speaker 2: He reached out and wanted to share something with me
Speaker 2: that happened back in two thousand and four. He just
Speaker 2: thought it was strange. He used to work with me,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden he sees me doing this.
Speaker 2: Travis was contracted to do some work on a cabin
Speaker 2: at Devil's Lake. There's many places called Devil's Lake, appropriate title,
Speaker 2: I think, so he was hired on for a four
Speaker 2: day contract. This gentleman that hired him had been having
Speaker 2: trouble since he built the place with what he perceived
Speaker 2: as bear's breaking in during the off season when he
Speaker 2: wasn't there. He would have to fix the damages and
Speaker 2: do the repairs every year. It's just something that this
Speaker 2: cabin owner had just taken as par for the course.
Speaker 2: It's the wilds of Alaska. Bears break in whatever he
Speaker 2: gets blown in. I don't like the thought of being
Speaker 2: dropped off somewhere for work, but I've been there, done that,
Speaker 2: so Travis thought nothing of it. He had all the
Speaker 2: extra materials that the guy had flown in a couple
Speaker 2: weeks prior, saw what was there, made a little list,
Speaker 2: because obviously he's not new to it, had a list
Speaker 2: of stuff, took pictures of the damage for Travis to
Speaker 2: look at and possess. Okay, we'll get this for this
Speaker 2: and that for that whatever. He had a bunch of
Speaker 2: knotty pine for the interior wall where it was damaged,
Speaker 2: a new door and a new window that he was
Speaker 2: replacing along with all the other minor materials. Two by
Speaker 2: fours and four by fours. Travis has flown in the morning.
Speaker 2: It was a real tight weather window on him getting
Speaker 2: in there. He got everything offloaded. The pilot that dropped
Speaker 2: him off said I'm gonna be back in four days
Speaker 2: whether dependant. He understood off the pilot does. So Travis
Speaker 2: is there and he drags all the materials up to
Speaker 2: the cabin. He decided, you know what, he had a
Speaker 2: little pop tent and he decided he was just going
Speaker 2: to pop that tin up inside the cabin. The damage
Speaker 2: at the door, he said, was extensive. He basically had
Speaker 2: to reframe in and do some other stuff to even
Speaker 2: attach the new door right. He said, it was crazy.
Speaker 2: It looked like the door just imploded into the cabin
Speaker 2: kind of deal with serious force because all the hinges
Speaker 2: and everything that was attached, even the dead bolt, all
Speaker 2: that was forced in and everything was splintered out behind it, right,
Speaker 2: so it was like forced in. The door was in
Speaker 2: three separate pieces, and it was solid wood. That particular
Speaker 2: door he was replacing with another custom solid door, branches, thick,
Speaker 2: solid not a hollow door of any kind. It was
Speaker 2: all custom made by a woodsmith in a shop specifically
Speaker 2: for this doorway. But the one previous that he saw
Speaker 2: was literally broken into three pieces. It just amazed him
Speaker 2: at the force it would take to do that, but
Speaker 2: yet there it was, right, So it gets on the
Speaker 2: job of just getting things squared away because the owner
Speaker 2: had been in a couple weeks before and did a
Speaker 2: bunch of the cleaning already, so it was basically outside
Speaker 2: of that broken door being inside there the obvious mess
Speaker 2: of the damage. The floor was cleaned up, and all
Speaker 2: the excess garbs and all that kind of stuff was
Speaker 2: already gone out of his way. We set up his
Speaker 2: pop tent inside the cabin to stay out of the wind,
Speaker 2: have another roof over him. Right, So first day he did,
Speaker 2: he was taking off old stuff and doing his thing
Speaker 2: and basically refurbishing what he could to reuse and getting
Speaker 2: it ready. He got a bunch of the framing into
Speaker 2: the new door done. So what he decided to do
Speaker 2: that first night is basically set the door in place,
Speaker 2: put in a screw in each one of the different
Speaker 2: hinges to at least be able to shut it, and
Speaker 2: the next day he planned on finishing up what he
Speaker 2: had to do. So he said, just as it was
Speaker 2: getting into dusk, which this was towards end of May
Speaker 2: two thousand and four, it was still getting dark at
Speaker 2: land of the midnight sun, but it wasn't full on craziness.
Speaker 2: So he gets all that tended too, gets the door
Speaker 2: in place, and he said he stepped out on the deck.
Speaker 2: There was a little small, little weber grill that he
Speaker 2: was cooking on. He got everything gone and was cooking
Speaker 2: up his dinner. And he said he was going in
Speaker 2: and out from his supplies inside and coming out and
Speaker 2: tending to the meat he had cooking on the grill.
Speaker 2: He said, it was getting on in the dusk and
Speaker 2: he was really tired, so he was trying to get
Speaker 2: it done so he can complete the contract. Basically with
Speaker 2: the limited time he had. He said, the time he
Speaker 2: was coming out to take the food off of the
Speaker 2: grill and he was putting it on his plate, he said,
Speaker 2: on the other side of the lake, he heard a scream.
Speaker 2: It concerned him that a woman was out there along screaming.
Speaker 2: He was like, oh shit, what the hell is this.
Speaker 2: He was very well armed, three thirty eight win mag rifle,
Speaker 2: twelve gaate shotgun, and a four to fifty four, so
Speaker 2: he was loaded for bear, literally loaded for bear. So
Speaker 2: he decided, okay, since there's a lot of brush, I'll
Speaker 2: bring the shotgun and the four fifty four and I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go help this woman. Because again, up until that point,
Speaker 2: harry Man, Bigfoot, all that shit wasn't even on this
Speaker 2: guy's radar. So Travis, he takes off and he follows
Speaker 2: the game trail along the lake, and he said he
Speaker 2: got about half the distance around, which would have been
Speaker 2: a little over half a mile, right along the edge
Speaker 2: of the lake. As he's going off to the other end,
Speaker 2: and he said he was overcome by the overwhelming sense
Speaker 2: that he was being watched in a very negative way.
Speaker 2: And he said, he's stopped and he hunkered down low
Speaker 2: and was trying to look around because the way the
Speaker 2: brush was, he couldn't really see too much. Very narrow
Speaker 2: game trail. He's pushing through the brush and he felt
Speaker 2: real nervous about that. But where he got that feeling.
Speaker 2: He was in a little bit of an open area
Speaker 2: and off to his right was the lake with a
Speaker 2: little bit of brush in between him and the lake.
Speaker 2: So he said it was about twenty five feet to
Speaker 2: the edge of the lake, and then up to his
Speaker 2: left it sloped up up towards the mountains. That's why
Speaker 2: he stood there, and he said he kept feeling sick
Speaker 2: to his stomach. This is bad, and so he decided
Speaker 2: to start yelling out, hey, do you need help? And
Speaker 2: so he starts yelling this over and over. He said
Speaker 2: he finally got sick of it. He wasn't hearing a response.
Speaker 2: Then he heard the scream again, and the scream came
Speaker 2: from behind him. He said he wasn't sure how far
Speaker 2: behind him, but it was between him in the cabin.
Speaker 2: And he said that's when he knew it wasn't no
Speaker 2: woman because the second scream he heard was very low
Speaker 2: but very high pitched at the same time, and he
Speaker 2: knew all was not good. He said he was highly intimidated.
Speaker 2: He said fear, yes, but he felt he was able
Speaker 2: to turn that fear into focus, and I'm getting back
Speaker 2: to some relative safety. So he starts going back. He
Speaker 2: said it took everything in him to go that direction
Speaker 2: where this scream came from, because it freaked him out.
Speaker 2: But he didn't want to be where he was. He
Speaker 2: wanted to get back to that cabin. He said. He
Speaker 2: was pushing back through the brush and he got about
Speaker 2: one hundred yards or so from where he initially heard
Speaker 2: that second scream, and he started hearing this huffing sound.
Speaker 2: He said it was probably about sixty ish feet away,
Speaker 2: up in the brush off to his right hand side,
Speaker 2: which would be sloping up the mountain next to him.
Speaker 2: And he said in the thickness of the brush that
Speaker 2: he was standing in, he could not make it out.
Speaker 2: And when he was hearing the huffing, he stopped and
Speaker 2: was really listening really hard, and he said it was
Speaker 2: really deep breathing. It wasn't really a huff, It was
Speaker 2: real deep breathing. And he said that was very concerning
Speaker 2: because he didn't know what the hell it was. He's
Speaker 2: been around bears before. It wasn't some bear, And he said,
Speaker 2: as he was sitting there trying to listen, he decided,
Speaker 2: do you know what, screw this. I don't need to listen.
Speaker 2: I need to continue on about my way. So he
Speaker 2: continues on, and he said he made it about another
Speaker 2: fifty feet and then it opened up into a little
Speaker 2: bit of a clearing, a little more clear area. Where
Speaker 2: it opened up to was an avalanche shoot that came down.
Speaker 2: He said. It was about one hundred yards wide. All
Speaker 2: the trees had been knocked down from the years before
Speaker 2: avalanche and stuff, and there was wooded debris and stumps
Speaker 2: and just avalanche to breathe. And so he felt in
Speaker 2: the open he was a little more calm down because
Speaker 2: he had a better line of sight. He said, as
Speaker 2: he stood there, he went up to about the middle
Speaker 2: there was about one hundred yards wide. So he went
Speaker 2: about fifty yards into the opening where it's more clear,
Speaker 2: and started looking around, panning around. Now, understand, he started
Speaker 2: this at dusk. Okay, so now it's getting on later
Speaker 2: into dusk to where it's getting dark enough to where
Speaker 2: you can't fully see now land of the midnight sun. Understand,
Speaker 2: the sky is light. The terrain is dark. It's only
Speaker 2: getting darker at this time of year. He said. He
Speaker 2: stood there and he was looking up slope in the
Speaker 2: direction at an angle, in the direction that he had
Speaker 2: heard the huffing just moments before, and he heard movement.
Speaker 2: And then when he would focus on that movement, it'd
Speaker 2: go quiet, and then he would be listening and then
Speaker 2: he would hear movement again. It focus in that direction
Speaker 2: with the shotgun, and then the movement would stop, and
Speaker 2: he was like, I couldn't see anything. At first. He
Speaker 2: was like, I didn't want to turn my back. I
Speaker 2: felt like I shouldn't turn my back. I should stay
Speaker 2: focused on what I'm doing. So, he said, at that moment,
Speaker 2: he decided, you know what, I had a pocket full
Speaker 2: of shotgun shells, slugs and buckshot, a fully loaded shotgun,
Speaker 2: and a four fifty four. I was gonna let some
Speaker 2: rounds fly. Now, unless you've been under those high stress
Speaker 2: incidences where you feel it's necessary to pop some warning
Speaker 2: shots and make some noise of your own, then don't
Speaker 2: judge anybody for shooting a gun. Okay, he let about
Speaker 2: three or four rounds fly. He popshots not directly in
Speaker 2: that area, but up at a steep angle and just
Speaker 2: popshots off, one after another, boom. Then he screamed leave
Speaker 2: me alone, real loud. After that, right his ears are ringing.
Speaker 2: He couldn't hear anything for a few moments. He thought
Speaker 2: he heard movement, but he wasn't sure because again they're
Speaker 2: ringing in the ears from the shotgun blaster. So he
Speaker 2: stands there a moment and he's reloading. As he's standing there,
Speaker 2: he calms down to an extent. Treva said, at that
Speaker 2: point he goes, okay, That's when I turned and ran,
Speaker 2: And I was like, why do you turn and run?
Speaker 2: He goes. After he shot, and after the ringing kind
Speaker 2: of subsided just enough, he could hear thrashing coming down
Speaker 2: off to his right hand side, coming up parallel to
Speaker 2: get parallel with them inside the tree line. Again. He's
Speaker 2: about halfway point in this open avalanche shoot area. He said.
Speaker 2: He felt like this thing was circling around to come
Speaker 2: after him. That's the feeling he had inside. He said.
Speaker 2: It wasn't tangible, it was just what I felt. And
Speaker 2: he said he turned and took off, running towards the cabin. No,
Speaker 2: he said, as he was running along, every once while
Speaker 2: he would stop turning around, raise the twelve gage in
Speaker 2: that direction. Nothing, do it again, run ten twelve paces
Speaker 2: real fast. Again. This is a narrow game trail like
Speaker 2: Wyden's narrows. It gets into brush and out of brush.
Speaker 2: It's not anything consistent like a park trail. Okay, understand
Speaker 2: what you're doing with And he would stop, turn nothing,
Speaker 2: and he would continue on. He said, when he made
Speaker 2: it back to the cabin, it was getting on into
Speaker 2: You don't want to be out there dark. And again
Speaker 2: sky's pretty light. Everything else is dark. And he said
Speaker 2: when he got back up, because the cabin was elevated
Speaker 2: in the front and the back end was against the ground,
Speaker 2: and it was on pilings in the front right for
Speaker 2: the most cabin was on pilings the way the stairs were.
Speaker 2: They went up in one direction about five steps, and
Speaker 2: then they hooked back up to the little porch, little deck,
Speaker 2: and then the cabin there. And he said, when he
Speaker 2: got up there, he was standing there catching his breath,
Speaker 2: and he heard a grunt. He said, the grunt he
Speaker 2: heard had to have come from behind the cabin. And
Speaker 2: in the back of the cabin. When you go in
Speaker 2: the door, there's a window on each side of this
Speaker 2: wood stove, and it's on the upper portion of the wall.
Speaker 2: They're not very low, he said, they're about four and
Speaker 2: a half feet off the ground. Then they're about two
Speaker 2: foot tall and about two foot wide windows, and he
Speaker 2: said he went inside it, drabbed his flashlight out of
Speaker 2: his bag, went over and started looking out these windows
Speaker 2: to see if he could see anything, right, he said,
Speaker 2: at one point and the one window, he couldn't see anything.
Speaker 2: He thought he saw brush moving, but the wind could
Speaker 2: have did it something else. And so he went to
Speaker 2: the other window, which if you're facing the cabin, he said,
Speaker 2: it would be the one off to the left. He
Speaker 2: went over to that side, hit the flashlight again. That's
Speaker 2: when he saw eyeshine further up the hill behind the cabin,
Speaker 2: up into the brush. He said, he wasn't sure how
Speaker 2: tall it would have to be at that point to
Speaker 2: see it, but it was above the brush that he
Speaker 2: saw the eye shine, and he said it was bright red.
Speaker 2: It was immediate. It was very like holy shit. So
Speaker 2: he killed the light, goes over again. This door. It
Speaker 2: wasn't latchable or anything like that. He had it hanging
Speaker 2: by a screw in each hand, just fitting it. Not
Speaker 2: complete or whatever. He said. He took his dwall impact
Speaker 2: and he screwed a board across to keep that door shut.
Speaker 2: He said. He sat there. He had left his food
Speaker 2: out on the deck where he had set it down
Speaker 2: before he took off. He said, he wasn't even thinking
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 1: And.
Speaker 2: Stay tuned for more sasquatch out to sea. We'll be
Speaker 2: right back after these messages, said, he sat down, sat
Speaker 2: there and just looked around every once in a while,
Speaker 2: make sure nothing was looking in at him or whatever. Basically,
Speaker 2: he ended up after, he said, it had to have
Speaker 2: been a few hours. He ended up falling asleep, laying
Speaker 2: basically on the shotgun, had three thirty eight rifles right
Speaker 2: next to him in the four fifty four within easy
Speaker 2: reach tuk back into the corner. He said. At one
Speaker 2: point he was woken up by what sounded like a
Speaker 2: real heavy weight being out on that deck, of the
Speaker 2: shifting and the creaking of the boards under severe weight.
Speaker 2: And he was listening and he heard his plate that
Speaker 2: he had out there earlier, and the silverware he had
Speaker 2: on it clink around right, and it dawned on him,
Speaker 2: I left my food out there, So he sits up,
Speaker 2: turns on his flashlight and starts yelling I'm in here,
Speaker 2: I'm in here, and then he heard nothing, so he
Speaker 2: was like, what the hell. He didn't know what the
Speaker 2: thump dump thump was. He assumes it was a couple
Speaker 2: few steps jumping off or whatever, because it just went
Speaker 2: quiet and there was no more noise, he said. He
Speaker 2: laid there for a little while longer, shaken and freaking
Speaker 2: out inside because he didn't know what the hell it was, Like,
Speaker 2: what did I get myself into? Kind of deals? He said.
Speaker 2: Eventually he calmed down enough that he fell back asleep.
Speaker 2: He woke up the next morning bright and early in
Speaker 2: a flash, sat up real quick, looking around. Everything was
Speaker 2: peaceful and calm. He heard songbirds. The sun was out,
Speaker 2: so he woke up with a sense of peace. He
Speaker 2: used the cordless and took the screws out of the
Speaker 2: board he had put across the doorway, got it out
Speaker 2: of the way, opened the door, slowly, looked out, slowly
Speaker 2: went out, looking around, had the shotgun with them? Was
Speaker 2: just like, what the hell? He said. His plate was there,
Speaker 2: his silverware was on the deck, His plate was there.
Speaker 2: He had made some kind of posteroni or something like that.
Speaker 2: Where it was some kind of Creamiofredo sauce, and he
Speaker 2: had cooked a steak to go with that stuff, so
Speaker 2: there was a lot of sauce on the plate along
Speaker 2: with the steak. But he said the plate was mostly clean,
Speaker 2: except it looked like a tongue drag of some kind
Speaker 2: across the plate, and there was a funny smell out
Speaker 2: on the deck. Looked around, didn't see any sign of anything.
Speaker 2: Try to look for tracks. Songbirds are going real peaceful.
Speaker 2: He was like, I don't know what the hell to do,
Speaker 2: but I'm stuck. He's there for a few more days.
Speaker 2: So he immediately gets into his work. He goes, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna fire up to saw. I'm gonna do this. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna do that. He went, fired up the generator that
Speaker 2: the guy left underneath the deck. He got that going,
Speaker 2: started making a lot of noise with his carpentry, and
Speaker 2: focused on what he had to do. He said he
Speaker 2: never worked so efficiently in his light. He completed almost
Speaker 2: everything that second day, almost everything door, all of it,
Speaker 2: replaced the window. He said he was motivated to have
Speaker 2: that place one hundred percent so he could hide in
Speaker 2: there if he needed to. I'm not laughing at him.
Speaker 2: I understand it. He said. It was quiet for the
Speaker 2: next two days, and the following day this plane was
Speaker 2: supposed to be back to get him. So with all
Speaker 2: the weather clear and everything, he wasn't concerned with that.
Speaker 2: He was just wanting hopefully nothing happens with the weather
Speaker 2: window and they're able to get him out of there.
Speaker 2: He said, because he was all done, he figured he
Speaker 2: would just sit out on the deck and keep an
Speaker 2: eye out and listen and all this kind of stuff,
Speaker 2: and again, songbirds are going. There wasn't any weird feeling
Speaker 2: until dusk, he said. At dusk he heard a whoop
Speaker 2: that standing on the deck, you can easily see the lake.
Speaker 2: The lake is about not quite one hundred yards in
Speaker 2: front of you, but it had been maintained and cleared
Speaker 2: out to where you have a nice view of this lake.
Speaker 2: And he said it was off to the right hand side,
Speaker 2: probably had to have originated probably hundred one hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty yards away ish because of the brush and everything,
Speaker 2: he couldn't safe for sure. And he said he heard
Speaker 2: that and instantly jumped up, went inside and shut the door.
Speaker 2: He said, he made sure that he anchored bolted everything.
Speaker 2: He had to for that doorway to be pristine. Tiptop
Speaker 2: even built a little thing to slide a board in
Speaker 2: there for extra protection. He had two sets, one at
Speaker 2: the top, one towards the bottom, so he could put
Speaker 2: two of the leftover boards there. He did that, and
Speaker 2: then he's sitting there, he goes, you know what, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go fill up that generator because it's going to
Speaker 2: run for at least six hours. It's loud, right. What
Speaker 2: he decided to do is take off part of the
Speaker 2: muffler of that thing, so it ran real loud, real
Speaker 2: real loud. There's this little what they call a fire arrestor, right,
Speaker 2: There's like this conical shape thing that sticks into the
Speaker 2: exhaust that kind of keeps any flames from spitting out
Speaker 2: or whatever. So he removed that and he fired it
Speaker 2: up after he filled it up, because he had to
Speaker 2: go back outside to do this. Fired it up and
Speaker 2: it was nice and loud, and he was comfortable with that.
Speaker 2: He let that run and went back inside and just
Speaker 2: sat there and he said, off in the distance, it
Speaker 2: sounded like across the lake. Every once in a while
Speaker 2: he would hear a long, bellowing kind of howl yell,
Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it. He said, he hadn't
Speaker 2: calmed down enough. Once the generator went out, which killed
Speaker 2: a little work light he had running, and some battery
Speaker 2: charges he had connected or whatever. Part of this plan
Speaker 2: with that was to make sure every battery he had
Speaker 2: because he had one of these little systems where you
Speaker 2: clicked the battery on. It's got a little bit of
Speaker 2: a light, a flashlight, so he had enough light or whatever.
Speaker 2: And so he said, once the generator died and he
Speaker 2: was just chilling there, he felt a little more comfortable
Speaker 2: having various power options for a light or whatever. Right,
Speaker 2: And so he said. He sat there just trying to
Speaker 2: stay as calm as he could. But every once in
Speaker 2: a while, across what he assumed was across the lake,
Speaker 2: he would hear that long, bellowing, mournful, sorrowful kind of
Speaker 2: scream yell whatever. He said. It was mostly in one
Speaker 2: like a baritone type octave, but at the end it
Speaker 2: would always end high pitched. It was real weird, but
Speaker 2: the high pitched portion, he said, was very brief. He
Speaker 2: ended up falling asleep nothing not a sound, he said.
Speaker 2: He slip pretty good up until he heard up bam
Speaker 2: shook the whole cabin. Something smacked the cabin startled the
Speaker 2: shit out of him. When he jumped up, he grabbed
Speaker 2: the four fifty four and he's looking out the back
Speaker 2: two windows because it hit near where he was laying
Speaker 2: down on the side. And he said when he looked out,
Speaker 2: he didn't see anything, but it was daylight. So since
Speaker 2: he was up, he was like, screw this. He started
Speaker 2: gathering up his stuff, putting everything back into these small
Speaker 2: totes he traveled with and all that stuff. He said.
Speaker 2: After a couple hours he went outside. The weather was
Speaker 2: still clear, everything was good. He tidied up the last
Speaker 2: bit he had as far as that contract had to go.
Speaker 2: You know. Once he was outside for a little bit,
Speaker 2: it was quiet initially, then songbirds started chirping and singing,
Speaker 2: and and he felt a little more calm knowing they
Speaker 2: were around. And then after a little while he heard
Speaker 2: the drone of the prop plane coming in and it
Speaker 2: showed up. He never so happily loaded up, asked the pilot, hey,
Speaker 2: on the flight out, I was about an hour and
Speaker 2: a half's light. Asked him, hey, any strange stuff ever
Speaker 2: happened here? And the pilot, without skipping to be goes well, yeah,
Speaker 2: there's a freaking big foot out there somewhere.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: Things crazy. He'll throw stuff at you. Did it throw anything?
Speaker 2: And he goes, no, I didn't throw anything. He goes, okay, good, Yeah,
Speaker 2: they'll throw stuff at you. He said. The way the
Speaker 2: pilot was this nonchalant. He was taken aback and didn't
Speaker 2: know how to react to it. Hey, Travis, thanks for
Speaker 2: reaching out. It was good to catch up with you
Speaker 2: on those old projects and stuff from years back. Yeah,
Speaker 2: shit gets crazy. What I wanted to show with you
Speaker 2: today comes from Samuel and his son, and we'll call
Speaker 2: him Samuel Junior. They're from the Yek Delta, the UK
Speaker 2: Couscacune Delta. We'll leave it at that. Samuel is in
Speaker 2: a certain position, not his real name. To use names
Speaker 2: of these particular rivers, it really allows people to be
Speaker 2: in a way pinpointed. So we'll just leave it alone.
Speaker 2: What Samuel dealt with this encounter happened about seven years ago,
Speaker 2: but prior to that, Samuel was able to have time
Speaker 2: with the sun when he actually turned fifteen because him
Speaker 2: his son's mother didn't get along. They lived somewhere else,
Speaker 2: and so at fifteen, Samuel was able to take custody
Speaker 2: of his son, start being hands on dad versus child'sport dad.
Speaker 2: So for three years Samuel attempted to take his son
Speaker 2: out for hunting, to get him laced up, train properly,
Speaker 2: get his marksmanship up, teach him the lay of the land,
Speaker 2: teach him some of the traditional stuff that he felt
Speaker 2: that his son should know. For three years in a row,
Speaker 2: they were thwarted, whether it be no most to be found,
Speaker 2: whether just running them out or just circumstances. So he
Speaker 2: was really stoked this particularly year, about seven years ago,
Speaker 2: to get out on the river with the sun. They
Speaker 2: live off of a major river. This particular river they
Speaker 2: were back up in was a smaller feat river, a
Speaker 2: lot smaller narrow were they were back in there about
Speaker 2: two miles from what he was saying, it's real twisty
Speaker 2: and turney, and there's this one spot that's got a
Speaker 2: pretty decent straight away before it hooks around to the right,
Speaker 2: kind of like a fish hook shape. And this straightaway
Speaker 2: was only like maybe one hundred and twenty five yards.
Speaker 2: That morning they were slowly coming up, it was just
Speaker 2: barely daylight. They could see clearly. You don't mistake what
Speaker 2: I'm saying the sun was off to their right and
Speaker 2: slowly coming up. It was just not very high in
Speaker 2: the sky. Again in the fall, of course, there's lots
Speaker 2: of colors and stuff. As they're going up, he was
Speaker 2: explaining that the river bank was about two feet above
Speaker 2: them from the water line, roughly maybe three in certain places.
Speaker 2: And the further back he got, the higher it got
Speaker 2: from the water line. And he goes when they got
Speaker 2: back up in there, it was between two three feet
Speaker 2: higher than the water level and whatnot. He said, because
Speaker 2: of the ice moving out in the spring, it took
Speaker 2: a lot of the brush right on the edges with it.
Speaker 2: So while the brush was a good ten to twenty
Speaker 2: feet back away from the river, right all the alders
Speaker 2: of stuff. As he was coming up, the sun was excited.
Speaker 2: The Sun's sitting in front of him. As they hit
Speaker 2: this trade away directly in front of him, they see
Speaker 2: this what looked like a huge moose, nice rack everything.
Speaker 2: The head was twisted down and it was holding this ant.
Speaker 2: It's funny, but it ran through a kind of a
Speaker 2: hole in the brush directly in front of him and disappeared.
Speaker 2: So instantly they're excited. He kills the motor and they
Speaker 2: just drifting forward, and he starts giving the son instruction, Hey,
Speaker 2: you're going to take the lead. We're gonna go slow,
Speaker 2: take your time, just coaching him a little bit. And
Speaker 2: he had already altered his anchor line to have a
Speaker 2: little wedge kind of shovel anchor, about thirty feet of rope,
Speaker 2: so he didn't have to go and run and tied off.
Speaker 2: He could just jump up on the bank and digging in, right,
Speaker 2: So he jumps up, he does that, his son hands
Speaker 2: him his gun. He helps his son out with his
Speaker 2: gun and stuff, and he has his son take to lead.
Speaker 2: He's trying to remember what I taught you, remember where
Speaker 2: to shoot all this stuff. Junior's got it. Junior is
Speaker 2: eighteen at the time, had just turned eighteen like a
Speaker 2: month before. So he takes a Samuel's about four steps
Speaker 2: behind Junior roughly to give him room, but he wanted
Speaker 2: to back him up in case his shot missing the
Speaker 2: bulmost try to charge. Shit happens, right, So Junior gets
Speaker 2: up to this. It's not a game trailer. It was
Speaker 2: just like an opening in the brush. So when his
Speaker 2: son gets over there, he squats down a little bit
Speaker 2: and raises a gun lowers it, raises it again and
Speaker 2: is looking and then lowers the gun and turns to
Speaker 2: Samuel and goes, in a regular speaking voice, goes, it's
Speaker 2: not a moose. Dad. And Samue's like quiet, and he goes, Dad,
Speaker 2: it's not a moose. And he turns again and he
Speaker 2: raises his open he goes, it's not a moose. And
Speaker 2: so Samuel comes up, what do you talk. We just
Speaker 2: saw it. We just saw this moose cut through there.
Speaker 2: What do you mean it's not a moose? He comes
Speaker 2: around and he's looking and his son's pointing. So where
Speaker 2: this particular opening was in the brush was basically at
Speaker 2: a point of a V shape where it opened up,
Speaker 2: and there's kind of some scrub rush and stuff here
Speaker 2: off to an immediate left behind that row of brush
Speaker 2: on the river bank, scrub brush and everything, but it
Speaker 2: kind of weds shaped away from him, with the outer
Speaker 2: part being like black spruce, asking and whatnot, some willows,
Speaker 2: and it ran out and the black spruce we right
Speaker 2: in there, maybe sixteen eighteen feet from what Samuel was saying.
Speaker 2: So Samuel was looking over his son's shoulder and he's
Speaker 2: looking and he goes, what do you mean where'd it go?
Speaker 2: Because in essence, it should have been a wide open view.
Speaker 2: Had it been a moose, it should have been clear
Speaker 2: right there. They would have heard it crashing through the trees.
Speaker 2: It wasn't adding up. So the sun points and he goes,
Speaker 2: it's right over there, and he goes, Dad, it walks
Speaker 2: like a man. And Samuel's like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 2: We saw a moose. What do you mean It walked
Speaker 2: like a man. And Samuel in his mind's eyes trying
Speaker 2: to envision a moose walking like a man. It just
Speaker 2: wasn't adding up. So he looks and way at just
Speaker 2: where the tree lined curves out of view, he sees
Speaker 2: this dark things peaking out again. It happened to be
Speaker 2: the direction of where the sun was coming up off
Speaker 2: in the distance, and so it's silhouetted. And Samuel was like,
Speaker 2: let's squat it down next to Junior, looking and so
Speaker 2: he raises his rifle and look to the scope and
Speaker 2: he dials it back, have a little bit of a
Speaker 2: wider view, but bringing a lot closer. He said he
Speaker 2: saw it. He was peeking out tucking back. It was
Speaker 2: just like a head and the shoulder leaning out and
Speaker 2: then leaning back, and it threw him off because the
Speaker 2: conundrum of it was is he was expecting to see
Speaker 2: a moose. Now there's this tall, manlike figure leaning out.
Speaker 2: He's what the hell And he's asking him, what'd you see?
Speaker 2: What the hell is that? When the son was like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, but when I looked through the brush, Dad,
Speaker 2: it wasn't a moose. It was walking away and it
Speaker 2: went into the brush right there, and now it's peeking
Speaker 2: out at us. He said. It walked like a man.
Speaker 2: So Samuel's okay. He looks at the scope one more time,
Speaker 2: he said, And just as he did and lowered it,
Speaker 2: he was just touching his son to tell him, hey,
Speaker 2: let's get out of here. And as he touched his
Speaker 2: son's shoulder, this thing let out a scream. The combination
Speaker 2: of the scream simultaneously with the hand on the shoulder,
Speaker 2: Junior popped up like a jack in the box accordion
Speaker 2: what Samuel said, knock sam em clean over. Knocked the
Speaker 2: rifle out of his hand. The son takes off, so
Speaker 2: Samuel collects himself, grabs his rifle right behind him. Somewhere
Speaker 2: in the midst of that, the scream stop Samuel's son
Speaker 2: is down in the skiff right now. Already kid was motivated.
Speaker 2: He's trying to fire up the kicker. But his dad
Speaker 2: pulled a little kill switch off a bit right and
Speaker 2: it was just hanging there. All you need to is
Speaker 2: click it into the little safety and catching it fire up.
Speaker 2: Junior was unaware, didn't have that much experience with downboard,
Speaker 2: so he's just yanking away right, almost pulling the damn
Speaker 2: thing out of the water. Samuel jumps down in the skiff,
Speaker 2: sets his rifle down, a says move. His son turns
Speaker 2: and is holding his rifle. He says, calmed down, we're leaving.
Speaker 2: He puts the kill switch back in place, he fires
Speaker 2: it up, and he turns and he looks back towards
Speaker 2: the direction of that patch where they were looking through
Speaker 2: the hole in the brush. And as he's looking, he
Speaker 2: can hear and feel running. He could feel it because
Speaker 2: the way the boat was still pushed up against the
Speaker 2: bank at the moment, it was transferring, and he could
Speaker 2: feel it in his feet as well. It was like startling.
Speaker 2: It was what the hell? Stay tuned for more sasquatch
Speaker 2: out to see. We'll be right back after the east
Speaker 2: messages the motor is running. He makes sure the anchor's pulled,
Speaker 2: sat down in there the waters, catching the boat and
Speaker 2: slowly pulling it as he's working his way back, and
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, as he just gets it back
Speaker 2: to the kicker to do what he has to do,
Speaker 2: put in reverse, pull away from the bank and get
Speaker 2: turned around or whatever. As he just stands and grabs
Speaker 2: the arm of the tiller, all of a sudden, the
Speaker 2: shot breaks boom, and it startles the shit out of
Speaker 2: him right because it's immediate left to his left. His
Speaker 2: son is fired or shot into the brush. What the
Speaker 2: hell was that? He goes, it was looking at us.
Speaker 2: It was looking at us. So Junior's freaking. He racks
Speaker 2: another round and Samuel's stopped shooting. You know what the
Speaker 2: hell it was right there, Dad, It was looking at us.
Speaker 2: And he goes, why'd you shoot it? Junior's I didn't.
Speaker 2: I shot up. So they had a little bit of
Speaker 2: back and forth because of the adrenaline and the high
Speaker 2: emotions involved. Well, Samuel had left his rifle two rows
Speaker 2: ahead of him, leaned against the bench seat of the
Speaker 2: lun skiff. He jumps over and grabs it again. The
Speaker 2: water is pushing him back at this point, so the
Speaker 2: rear end the stern of the skiff bumps into the bank,
Speaker 2: is starting to swing the front around. This is all
Speaker 2: going on, and as he grabs his rifle, turns back
Speaker 2: and gets back to where the kicker is, he hears
Speaker 2: a grunt, like a gurgling, reverberating grunt, growl kind of noise.
Speaker 2: Is real deep, he said, And he turned and in essence,
Speaker 2: he's looking straight off the stern at this point, because
Speaker 2: the skiff was swinging around. As he looks, he was startled.
Speaker 2: And all of a sudden, he hears the son say
Speaker 2: get down, and he turns and he sees his son
Speaker 2: standing on the bench seat, so instinctively ducked another shot.
Speaker 2: Bay am. They hear the scream and a bunch of thrashing.
Speaker 2: So Samuel turns around again and raises his rifle. And
Speaker 2: this thing was out of you at this point, and
Speaker 2: he said, when he initially saw it standing there, he
Speaker 2: could see it better, but the face was really black.
Speaker 2: It was hard to make out features, but he could
Speaker 2: see the glint of like life in the eye, he said.
Speaker 2: The eyes look black and the sun shot again is
Speaker 2: well shit, you know what the hell? He is get
Speaker 2: down from where you're standing. I got to operate the
Speaker 2: boat as that scream ended, and that they heard the
Speaker 2: thrashing and the brief little scolding he gave it. His
Speaker 2: son got down. Now the front end is swinging around,
Speaker 2: so where they were looking was almost behind them at
Speaker 2: this point, back up where that river hooks around where
Speaker 2: they initially saw in the direction they saw what was
Speaker 2: a moose. They hear another scream, a very very high
Speaker 2: pitched but also a lot more powerful screen and it
Speaker 2: startled them right because the first one was loud as hell.
Speaker 2: From what he said, this one was a lot louder.
Speaker 2: He looks back up basically behind him. Now they're staring.
Speaker 2: They see this thing. It looks real, super skinny. Almost
Speaker 2: looked like it was standing sideways the way it was
Speaker 2: moving at the distance, maybe at this point one hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty yards. At this distance, they couldn't figure out
Speaker 2: why because it was literally moving sideways, so it looked
Speaker 2: a lot skinnier. The way it was moving. It was
Speaker 2: like it was doing something. But he said the closest
Speaker 2: thing would be a dance, but it wasn't melodic or
Speaker 2: rhythmic in any way. Then it turned broadside, he said,
Speaker 2: it was taller than the other word. The other one,
Speaker 2: he said, when it was peaking from behind the trees,
Speaker 2: he realized the trees are about eighteen foot ish between
Speaker 2: sixteen eighteen foot as a rough estimate, this thing had
Speaker 2: to be at least eleven foot tall when it was
Speaker 2: peaking from behind the trees. Before the initial screaming, they
Speaker 2: took off with the skiff, and he said this one
Speaker 2: was taller than the alderbrush along the river bank, which
Speaker 2: was over their heads. So he said it had to
Speaker 2: have been at least a foot or two taller than
Speaker 2: the one they originally saw. That scream happens, and it's moving,
Speaker 2: and when it turns the broadside, he said, the way
Speaker 2: it was moving was like it would slink down and
Speaker 2: move and then stand up. And then when it got
Speaker 2: close to where that opening was in the brush where
Speaker 2: they initially saw what they thought was a moose cut through,
Speaker 2: they started moving back and forth real fast and making
Speaker 2: this weird gurgly growl sound. At this point, the skiff
Speaker 2: is already facing down river. They're drifting them along this
Speaker 2: whole time. So he jumps down and gets gone. Now
Speaker 2: this is pretty narrow fairly deep but narrow, so he
Speaker 2: couldn't just go wide open and make the turns because
Speaker 2: they were pretty tight turns, so he'd have to go
Speaker 2: nice and slow to make these turns. And it was
Speaker 2: real windy. They're two miles as a crow flies from
Speaker 2: the mouth of where it met took to the larger river.
Speaker 2: River miles going back and forth, probably closer to three.
Speaker 2: So they're cutting back and forth, cutting back and forth.
Speaker 2: He said. They were about four bends heading back to
Speaker 2: where thought, okay, we're getting out of here. There's nothing
Speaker 2: else happened. Then they hear this crash, like a breaking sound,
Speaker 2: off in the distance up ahead of them to the right,
Speaker 2: and it was just as they came around this one
Speaker 2: bend and there was a short little run and then
Speaker 2: it cuts back around to the left as far as
Speaker 2: the river goes, and they heard the breakup over there,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden they could hear it over
Speaker 2: the skiff and everything. It was a loud, cracking sound,
Speaker 2: so it was like, what the hell. So they made
Speaker 2: it around, and then when they came back on the
Speaker 2: other bend, just as they were coming around where it
Speaker 2: bends back to the left, been ahead of where they
Speaker 2: were all of a sudden, just in front of them,
Speaker 2: about just as they were coming into the turn, you know,
Speaker 2: the apex of this turn where it's a little bit
Speaker 2: of a straightaway. This black spruce tree is throwing, like
Speaker 2: speared into the muddy river bank to where they had
Speaker 2: to duck down immediately. If it was any lower, it
Speaker 2: would have pushed them out of the boat or stopped
Speaker 2: the boat. So that freaked meat because they barely made
Speaker 2: it through that. And then he gave it a little
Speaker 2: more throttle, and then it kicked up. When a few
Speaker 2: more bins, they heard noises thrashing behind him. He couldn't
Speaker 2: make out if it was chasing them or what it
Speaker 2: was doing, because again he has the noise of the bow,
Speaker 2: the noise of his own thoughts in his head, and
Speaker 2: also this commotion, so it's like a gulash. So he
Speaker 2: said there were about two or so, maybe three bins
Speaker 2: from where the black spruce wedged into the mud bank.
Speaker 2: When they came around another bend, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: it looked like a birch tree or a piece of
Speaker 2: a birch tree was wedged in as well, and a
Speaker 2: little lower. He initially was like he thought he was
Speaker 2: going to have to stop, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: But thankfully the weight of the birch dropped into the water.
Speaker 2: So what he did was gunned it a little bit,
Speaker 2: held onto the back of the skiff the kickers so
Speaker 2: didn't kick up too far anyway, and rode over the log.
Speaker 2: He said, once that happened, he got it up to
Speaker 2: what speed it could tolerate going through these s curves,
Speaker 2: And he said it was about three more bends down
Speaker 2: when they hooked a right turn, and they were going
Speaker 2: to hook back around to the left. When they're in
Speaker 2: the apex of that turn, they saw it standing there again,
Speaker 2: the ones that he had guessed. His son shot because
Speaker 2: when it was standing there he could see what it
Speaker 2: looked like. It had a wet spot off to the
Speaker 2: side of its chest. It didn't do anything, but his
Speaker 2: son raised a rifle to shoot at it. Just as
Speaker 2: he fired the shot, the thing moved. The shot miss
Speaker 2: ran it off, so they continued on. They make it
Speaker 2: out to where the mouth of this little feeder river
Speaker 2: meets the larger river. It's a fairly large river. So
Speaker 2: they went out to the middle. Samuel killed the outboard
Speaker 2: so they could calm down, he let himself a cigarette.
Speaker 2: His son was like, what the hell, what is that?
Speaker 2: Samuel like, it's a harry Man. I didn't know. I'd
Speaker 2: only seen him before many years ago, and it was
Speaker 2: at distance. In other words, I knew of them, but
Speaker 2: it was like not something everyday type of thing, So
Speaker 2: it didn't really come to mind because it was so
Speaker 2: many years ago, and of course he didn't have this
Speaker 2: kind of reference to share. So they had a discussion.
Speaker 2: Junior was pretty shook up. So when I had a
Speaker 2: chance to talk to Junior about what his perspective was
Speaker 2: is he was excited. His dad taught him very well
Speaker 2: how to shoot, respect and all that. One thing his
Speaker 2: dad didn't notice when Junior went up to that clearing,
Speaker 2: that opening in the brush and looked just before he
Speaker 2: raised his rifle, he noticed tighter to the left there
Speaker 2: was a caribou antler's on the ground with remains of
Speaker 2: a carcass, and also a dead brown bear that was
Speaker 2: pause up. What stood out about the dead brown bear
Speaker 2: was with these paws up, there was fur and everything
Speaker 2: still attached to the legs, but it was like the
Speaker 2: whole chest was missing from it. He didn't notice the
Speaker 2: head or anything because of just how it was obscured.
Speaker 2: But there was dead critters back there. His dad didn't
Speaker 2: notice that because his dad wasn't quite where he was
Speaker 2: and looking tight to the left. His dad's attention was
Speaker 2: Harryman Peakeey right. Then. I asked him what caused you
Speaker 2: when you fired the shot to actually shoot it, not
Speaker 2: the warning shot the initial time, but the second time
Speaker 2: when you shot it. Why'd you shoot that? And he said,
Speaker 2: I didn't want it to get my dad. I want
Speaker 2: to thank them for sharing that, because approximately seven years
Speaker 2: ago on a major river way in the White k Delta,
Speaker 2: the Uconn't Custom Crime Delta. I want to thank you
Speaker 2: Samuel for reaching out and sharing. I know it's not easy,
Speaker 2: especially with some of the cultural things. There's places where
Speaker 2: you can't even go and speak about the Harryman and
Speaker 2: they'll want you out of the village. They can play
Speaker 2: none of that because you'll bring a bad omen according
Speaker 2: to what they believe, and bad fishing. They'll steal something.
Speaker 2: There's a multitude of things. I don't knock that superstitious
Speaker 2: belief because it started somewhere for a certain reason, so
Speaker 2: I don't knock it. I have a different view, of course,
Speaker 2: because of public safety. But again I wouldn't never begrudge
Speaker 2: somebody for their beliefs. Thanks against Samuel for sharing that,
Speaker 2: Thank you Junior, Thank you guys for joining me. We'll
Speaker 2: catch you on the next one.