1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,400 Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're gonna hop across the 3 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:11,119 Pond and we're gonna get an update on Joe exotic 4 00:00:11,199 --> 00:00:16,559 of the Windsor family and how his former PA has 5 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:18,600 now signaled that she is willing to talk to the 6 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:23,440 police about Andrew and his behavior. And I'll tell you 7 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:28,079 what this is. How you get people those closest to 8 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,440 them start talking about what they were doing. And how 9 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,039 many times have we seen it a high profile person, 10 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:38,479 whether a criminal or otherwise get taken down by an associate. 11 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:42,320 It happens all the time. Now. I don't think that 12 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:46,079 Charlotte Manley, who used to be Prince Andrew's PA, is 13 00:00:46,119 --> 00:00:49,200 facing any charges herself, so it's not like she was 14 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:51,799 being pressured that way. But Andrew's not the kind of 15 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,960 guy that really inspires loyalty, right. I don't see anybody 16 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:59,960 going down with the ship for the former Prince Andrew, 17 00:01:00,799 --> 00:01:05,719 and certainly not somebody like Charlotte many. Today's article was 18 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,280 published by the Times and the headline Andrew's former PA 19 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,840 will speak to police about her time serving the Royal 20 00:01:15,239 --> 00:01:21,000 This article was authored by Will Humphries and Charlotte Alt, 21 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,200 the former personal assistant Andrew mount Batten Windsor, has told 22 00:01:25,239 --> 00:01:27,920 The Times she would speak to police about her time 23 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:32,200 serving under the disgraced former prince. And I think we're 24 00:01:32,239 --> 00:01:34,120 going to see a lot more of this because I 25 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,560 think that Andrew was being protected by the shield of 26 00:01:36,599 --> 00:01:40,200 the monarchy. But I think that shield's gone, and I 27 00:01:40,239 --> 00:01:41,959 think that people are going to be coming out of 28 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:46,040 the woodwork now with stories about Andrew. And I think 29 00:01:46,079 --> 00:01:49,239 that one of the best sources on what's going on 30 00:01:49,319 --> 00:01:53,840 with Andrew is Andrew Lowney, who is a historian and 31 00:01:53,879 --> 00:01:58,480 an author who covers the royal family and specifically Prince 32 00:01:58,519 --> 00:02:01,040 Andrew lately, and he's certainly has his finger on the 33 00:02:01,079 --> 00:02:03,280 pulse when it comes to what's going on with Andrew 34 00:02:03,519 --> 00:02:08,639 over in the UK. And according to Andrew Lowney, he's 35 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,400 had a lot of people come forward recently, you know, 36 00:02:11,479 --> 00:02:14,240 last few months or whatever, who are now willing to 37 00:02:14,319 --> 00:02:18,240 talk about Prince Andrew and his time as envoy and 38 00:02:18,439 --> 00:02:22,080 other situations. Whereas previously people were scared of the crown, 39 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:27,280 but now the dam's broken and that water is rushing 40 00:02:27,319 --> 00:02:31,080 on out. Charlotte Manley sixty eight was private Secretary and 41 00:02:31,159 --> 00:02:33,960 Treasurer to Andrew from two thousand and one to two 42 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,159 thousand and three, and before that had served as his 43 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:43,159 assistant Private Secretary and treasurer since nineteen ninety six. So 44 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,800 pretty sure that miss Manley knows a thing or two 45 00:02:45,879 --> 00:02:49,639 about Prince Andrew and that the very least can corroborate 46 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,639 some of the information. Now, does she have some kind 47 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:56,360 of smoking gun evidence? Probably not, But when you're building 48 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,680 a case, it's all about that circumstantial evidence. To get 49 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,360 things off the ground, you got to have witness statements, 50 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,240 You have to you know, build from the bottom up, 51 00:03:05,719 --> 00:03:08,639 and that's what's going on here. And when you have 52 00:03:08,719 --> 00:03:11,479 people that have intimate knowledge of what you were up to, 53 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,759 even if it wasn't criminal, it helps the investigators build 54 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,520 that profile and they do it with one piece of 55 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:22,879 circumstantial evidence at a time. Manly, who served as an 56 00:03:22,879 --> 00:03:26,039 officer in the Royal Navy between nineteen seventy six and 57 00:03:26,159 --> 00:03:30,199 nineteen ninety six, regularly accompanied Andrew on as many trips 58 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,840 abroad after he was made the UK Special Representative for 59 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:38,639 Trade and Investment in two thousand and one. It also 60 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,479 emerged that she signed a seventy five dollars check from 61 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:46,000 a Buckingham Palace bank on Andrew's behalf on June two 62 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,240 thousand to pay a South African masseuse who glam Maxwell 63 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:53,840 had arranged to attend him at his room in the palace. Well, 64 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,199 that's called a paper trail and that's not going to 65 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,560 be good for Prince Andrew. I know, breaking news, right, 66 00:04:00,879 --> 00:04:03,560 because that's the big problem for Andrew at this point. 67 00:04:03,879 --> 00:04:06,680 It's not even the allegations about Virginia. And that's not 68 00:04:06,719 --> 00:04:09,479 saying that won't come up at some point, but right now, 69 00:04:09,639 --> 00:04:12,599 what they're doing is following that paper trail. And that 70 00:04:12,639 --> 00:04:15,879 paper trail certainly looks like there's a lot of impropriety 71 00:04:15,919 --> 00:04:18,839 on the part of Prince Andrew, and not as a 72 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:23,240 private citizen. Remember that's very important, right, he was representing 73 00:04:23,319 --> 00:04:26,879 the government the people of the UK and he's up 74 00:04:26,879 --> 00:04:29,360 to this bullshit. Now. If he was doing this in 75 00:04:29,399 --> 00:04:31,639 a private capacity and not on the dime of the 76 00:04:31,639 --> 00:04:34,480 British public, then he'd have an argument that nobody should 77 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,040 bother him. Right, I'm a ground ass man, I can 78 00:04:37,079 --> 00:04:40,759 do what I want. But that's not the case. You 79 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:46,759 were representing the people of the UK and if you're 80 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,240 up to no good, trading secrets and passing things off 81 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,319 to people that shouldn't have them, and god knows what else. 82 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,240 Then you should be held accountable for it. And once 83 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,920 the door's open to that, you know they're going to 84 00:04:58,959 --> 00:05:02,800 look at the allegations by Virginia. That's how these investigations go. 85 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,639 Maxwell had been a client of Monique giann Aloni, who 86 00:05:08,759 --> 00:05:12,439 had a massage clinic in Kensington, and she promised the messuse, 87 00:05:12,639 --> 00:05:15,959 I'm going to introduce you to someone more famous than God. 88 00:05:16,759 --> 00:05:21,519 Imagine being that excited about meeting Prince Andrew. I'd rather 89 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,160 go to the dentist and have all my teeth pulled 90 00:05:25,439 --> 00:05:31,800 than spend one minute with Prince Andrew, more famous than 91 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:37,040 God maybe now certainly more infamous, that's for damn sure. 92 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:41,399 A few weeks later, Gianne alone received a call from 93 00:05:41,439 --> 00:05:45,000 Manley to a book a treatment for Andrew in Buckingham Palace. 94 00:05:45,399 --> 00:05:48,439 So Manley certainly knows about this. And look, I'm not 95 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:52,079 saying that this was improper, right, I'm not saying that 96 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:56,800 Andrew did anything untowards to this woman. But it fits 97 00:05:56,800 --> 00:06:01,120 a larger pattern. And when you're dealing with something like 98 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,120 what we're dealing with where there is a lot of 99 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,240 scattered information, you have to build it up. And the 100 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,360 way you do that is piece by piece. This story 101 00:06:10,399 --> 00:06:14,279 corroborates that story, Okay, this timeline fits here, Oh, in 102 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,560 that person, they certainly said this, and on and on 103 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:22,519 and on, and it's like a gigantic puzzle. And of course, 104 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,519 as you know with puzzles, you have to start with 105 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,279 the coroners first. So if you look at this situation 106 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,519 that we're talking about right here with Andrew getting this massage, 107 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,240 what's the big deal? Right, grown ass man can get 108 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,839 a massage whenever he wants. Who cares? Two adults consenting, 109 00:06:37,079 --> 00:06:41,959 nobody's business. But if it's the overall larger pattern and 110 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,920 once again proves that Andrew has been lying, and I 111 00:06:45,959 --> 00:06:49,639 think that's crucial, especially as an investigator. If you know 112 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:52,360 somebody is playing loose with the truth and you can 113 00:06:52,399 --> 00:06:54,600 confirm it time and time again, you're not going to 114 00:06:54,639 --> 00:06:57,560 believe anything they say, and you know who else isn't 115 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:03,920 going to believe them? A jury, that's who. Gianneloni said 116 00:07:03,959 --> 00:07:06,279 she didn't believe any background checks were done on her, 117 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,319 and she was waved through palace security and taken to 118 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,839 Andrew's room. I got to the room and Andrew was 119 00:07:12,839 --> 00:07:14,839 stood there in a robe, she told The Daily Mail 120 00:07:14,879 --> 00:07:19,040 in twenty nineteen. After saying hello, he disappeared to the 121 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:21,800 bathroom and came back in the nude, like his buddy 122 00:07:21,839 --> 00:07:25,319 Jeffrey Hunh. I averted my eyes and I was quite embarrassed. 123 00:07:26,519 --> 00:07:30,319 Gianneloney said. Other than the initial embarrassment, she had no 124 00:07:30,439 --> 00:07:33,720 issues during the massage, during which Andrew was covered with 125 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:38,879 a towel, and said he was very nice and very gentlemanly. Well, 126 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:40,519 of course, if you want to be a cynic, you 127 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,160 can say that this lady was too old for him. 128 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,279 I know, I know, very cynical, right, But considering what 129 00:07:47,319 --> 00:07:50,240 we've heard about Prince Andrew and his buddies, is that 130 00:07:50,319 --> 00:07:53,800 too big of Elipe Manly signed the check paying Gianneloni 131 00:07:54,079 --> 00:07:57,680 for her visit from Royal Family Coot's bank account. The 132 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,720 Times visited Manly's large will Shire her home to ask 133 00:08:01,759 --> 00:08:04,920 about the payment and whether she had seen or experienced 134 00:08:04,959 --> 00:08:10,800 anything untoward during her time serving Andrew as his personal assistant. 135 00:08:11,199 --> 00:08:14,120 Manly answered the door and said well done for finding me. 136 00:08:14,879 --> 00:08:17,399 When asked if she would speak about her experience serving 137 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,240 under Andrew, she said I would rather talk to the 138 00:08:20,279 --> 00:08:22,800 police than the press, not that I would have much 139 00:08:22,839 --> 00:08:26,879 to tell them, Well, anything you can tell them might help. 140 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,920 She might not have seen anything that's you know, criminal, 141 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,840 if you will, but she might have timeline pieces that 142 00:08:32,879 --> 00:08:36,080 fit together, or she might have some kind of corroborating 143 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:40,759 evidence about Prince Andrew being located somewhere, and when you're 144 00:08:40,799 --> 00:08:46,320 conducting an investigation, all of that's very important. Manly was 145 00:08:46,399 --> 00:08:49,320 made a Dame Commander of the Royal Victorian Order by 146 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:53,039 the King in his New Year's Honors for twenty twenty six, 147 00:08:53,399 --> 00:08:57,399 and was previously appointed in OBE in nineteen ninety six 148 00:08:57,759 --> 00:09:01,200 and Commander of the Royal Victorian Order in twenty eighteen. 149 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,879 The CVO is an honor awarded personally by the British 150 00:09:05,919 --> 00:09:10,000 Monarch to recognize the extraordinary or personal service to Sovereign, 151 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:15,720 the Royal Family or the representatives. After she stepped down 152 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,120 from her role serving Andrew in two thousand and three, 153 00:09:18,279 --> 00:09:21,639 Manly became a chapter clerk of Saint George Chapel Windsor. 154 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,720 She retired last year. So certainly somebody that would be 155 00:09:25,759 --> 00:09:29,480 in the know, and somebody that's been on the government 156 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:33,799 dime for a very long time. During her time working 157 00:09:33,799 --> 00:09:36,679 with Andrew, she was often listed in the Court circular 158 00:09:37,039 --> 00:09:39,759 as having joined on trade en void trips or meeting 159 00:09:39,799 --> 00:09:44,519 him at various airports or airfields upon his return. Among 160 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,879 these visits was New York in two thousand and one, 161 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,039 shortly after Andrew took over the role, as well as 162 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:56,480 trips to Bulgaria, Brazil, the Falkland Islands, Peru, and Canada. Well, 163 00:09:56,519 --> 00:10:01,240 we know that Epstein was abusing people in Brazil and Peru, 164 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:06,200 probably Canada and my guest Bulgaria as well. So was 165 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,919 Andrew meeting with anybody down there that was friendly with Epstein? Again? 166 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:16,159 I don't know. I'm just asking questions. The King's meeting 167 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,879 leaders of Commonwealth nations this week, and discussions are expected 168 00:10:19,919 --> 00:10:23,600 to include the removal of Andrew from the line of succession. 169 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,159 A newly released Epstein filed document shows an alleged victim 170 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:32,480 of Jeffrey Epstein told the FBI that she saw Andrew 171 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,519 in the Pedophile financier as New York home in two 172 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,600 thousand and eight or two thousand and nine and watched 173 00:10:38,639 --> 00:10:42,000 does Epstein photograph the Prince giving her gorolla massage with 174 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:46,000 her clothes on It's not known if the description relates 175 00:10:46,039 --> 00:10:49,840 to photographs uncovered this year of Andrew crouched over a 176 00:10:49,879 --> 00:10:52,840 woman lying on her back as he placed his hands 177 00:10:52,879 --> 00:10:55,240 on her. And I don't know if that's the picture 178 00:10:55,279 --> 00:10:59,240 that corroborates this, but it looks damned suspicious and it 179 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:04,399 doesn't look good for Andrew. The woman told the FBI 180 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,840 investigators in twenty twenty that she recalled going to Ebstein's 181 00:11:07,879 --> 00:11:10,720 home in New York and being quite shocked to see 182 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:15,120 Prince Andrew was in the kitchen with another girl. She 183 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,639 described the girl as being approximately twenty something and able 184 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:22,440 to speak good English, but not an American. I won't 185 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,559 even begin to speculate who that could have been. There 186 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:29,600 are numerous women and girls who are at Epstein's house 187 00:11:29,639 --> 00:11:35,039 all the time. The FBI report of the interview states 188 00:11:35,039 --> 00:11:38,080 that Epstein asked the girl to massage Prince Andrew's shoulders 189 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:42,080 and back. The girl started massaging Prince Andrew's back, Epstein 190 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,240 left the room and came back to the room with 191 00:11:44,279 --> 00:11:48,360 the camera. Epstein never took pictures of anybody. There was 192 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:52,279 no blackmail. Imagine being that dumb to actually believe that. 193 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,519 Prince Andrew then told the girl that it was her 194 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,480 turn to be massaged. Prince Andrew massaged the girl back, shoulders, waist, 195 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:06,679 and hands. Everyone had clothes on during the massage. Well, okay, 196 00:12:06,799 --> 00:12:10,039 that's cool. What happened later on when the cameras were off? 197 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:15,080 Considering what we just heard from the massage therapist that 198 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,320 went to a Buckingham palace, do you really think that 199 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,879 nothing occurred here? Andrew and Epstein were just having some 200 00:12:20,919 --> 00:12:25,879 fun tickle fights. The woman told the FBI that she 201 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,879 just wanted to leave when this was happening, but Epstein 202 00:12:28,919 --> 00:12:31,000 took her to a different room where he pushed her 203 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:34,759 against the wall, trying to take her top off. Epstein 204 00:12:34,799 --> 00:12:36,840 told her he wanted to take a picture of her. 205 00:12:37,159 --> 00:12:39,399 She told him he could take picture, but she would 206 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,159 not let him take her top off, the report states. 207 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,960 Earlier in the interview, the woman described being repeatedly forced 208 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,519 to have sex with Epstein and one of his friends. Well, 209 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:54,360 I wonder who that friend is. But remember, there's nobody 210 00:12:54,399 --> 00:12:57,600 else involved here, right, That's what we were told. There's 211 00:12:57,639 --> 00:13:00,960 no other co conspirators. Nobody else was abused anybody, and 212 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,360 it was just Epstein and that is obviously one hundred 213 00:13:04,399 --> 00:13:08,919 percent demonstrably false. But you know what's not false. You 214 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,840 know what's true as hell. Prince Andrew is one of 215 00:13:12,879 --> 00:13:16,440 the biggest dumbasses in the history of dumbasses, and the 216 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,159 only person that Prince Andrew has to blame for anything 217 00:13:20,039 --> 00:13:23,200 is Prince Andrew himself. All the information that goes with 218 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,679 this episode can be found in the description box.