WEBVTT 1 00:00:15.400 --> 00:00:19.239 Seven six on a Friday Extra Special Friday, the Return 2 00:00:19.320 --> 00:00:21.440 of Brigha McGowan from the Hudson Institute. Is also a 3 00:00:21.440 --> 00:00:23.920 professor of the University of Mina University and he is 4 00:00:23.960 --> 00:00:28.359 an energy expert. Charge Conversations is the name of his podcast. 5 00:00:28.399 --> 00:00:30.320 I strongly encourage you to follow that one hear what 6 00:00:30.359 --> 00:00:32.600 he has to say about energy policy. Brigha McGowan, It 7 00:00:32.679 --> 00:00:35.439 is fantastic seeing you in studio, my friend. I appreciate 8 00:00:35.479 --> 00:00:37.039 your willingness to come on in and talk to my 9 00:00:37.119 --> 00:00:38.039 listeners of me today. 10 00:00:38.240 --> 00:00:40.600 Good morning, Brian, thanks for having me in the studio. 11 00:00:40.679 --> 00:00:44.240 It's an honor to be back here and happy to 12 00:00:44.280 --> 00:00:45.439 be back in America too. 13 00:00:45.560 --> 00:00:47.520 Well, and that's where I was going, because I understand 14 00:00:47.560 --> 00:00:52.079 he just came back from a conference in France. It 15 00:00:52.119 --> 00:00:54.759 wasn't on economics, you say, generally speaking. 16 00:00:54.560 --> 00:00:57.679 Yeah, generally speaking on economics, and of course we know 17 00:00:57.759 --> 00:01:01.320 that energy is a key component to economics. 18 00:01:01.399 --> 00:01:03.799 Yeah, learning about that in Germany, where they apparently have 19 00:01:03.880 --> 00:01:06.480 fallen off the map in terms of production capabilities because 20 00:01:06.519 --> 00:01:09.760 of the unsteady reality of energy and how outrageously expensive 21 00:01:09.760 --> 00:01:11.879 they've made it. I don't necessarily want to dive onto 22 00:01:11.920 --> 00:01:14.760 them first. But I mean I said, I kind of 23 00:01:14.760 --> 00:01:17.519 figured that if the conclusion of this hour together, I 24 00:01:17.680 --> 00:01:21.079 was going to reach the boiled down proposition or conclusion 25 00:01:21.120 --> 00:01:25.519 that Europe in the European Union is a cautionary tale 26 00:01:25.560 --> 00:01:28.159 for what a roadmap for what we should not do 27 00:01:28.200 --> 00:01:29.280 here in the United States. 28 00:01:29.560 --> 00:01:31.640 Absolutely, And you know, I think a lot of us 29 00:01:31.719 --> 00:01:33.760 think fondly on Europe and we're like, oh wow, you know, 30 00:01:33.799 --> 00:01:37.040 they're so advanced in this or that, and you know 31 00:01:37.079 --> 00:01:40.200 when it comes to energy and frankly more and more 32 00:01:40.200 --> 00:01:43.879 on general policies. In general, Europe is not the leader, 33 00:01:43.959 --> 00:01:44.760 they're the laggard. 34 00:01:45.319 --> 00:01:48.799 Yeah, we always talk about how great our relationship is, 35 00:01:48.840 --> 00:01:51.400 and yes, they are our allies. We do have defense 36 00:01:51.439 --> 00:01:54.200 agreements with NATO aligned countries, and we did rebuild them 37 00:01:54.200 --> 00:01:57.239 in the aftermath of the World War Two. But you know, 38 00:01:57.560 --> 00:02:02.000 it's kind of like Vietnam. You know, we expected him 39 00:02:02.000 --> 00:02:04.200 to go full on commune and we lost, you know, 40 00:02:04.239 --> 00:02:07.959 fifty four plus thousand American men fighting that battle to 41 00:02:08.000 --> 00:02:11.560 stop the Red scourge, and we didn't. But it really 42 00:02:11.680 --> 00:02:15.280 is more of a kind of like European nation. We 43 00:02:15.360 --> 00:02:18.800 trade with them, we exchange with them, we have they 44 00:02:19.039 --> 00:02:23.960 are I would say more capitalists than communists. So the 45 00:02:24.000 --> 00:02:25.719 world's turned out to be an interesting thing. But as 46 00:02:25.759 --> 00:02:27.919 contrast to the Europe. Europe we expected to be this 47 00:02:28.000 --> 00:02:30.800 great capitalist bastion and free markets and everything like that, 48 00:02:31.159 --> 00:02:35.120 but they've drifted away from that into this full on socialism. 49 00:02:35.280 --> 00:02:38.159 They you know, the value add attacks all them edicts 50 00:02:38.199 --> 00:02:41.360 and mandates. I know you're I know, UK is no 51 00:02:41.439 --> 00:02:43.879 longer in the European Union. But if you want a 52 00:02:43.919 --> 00:02:48.639 great illustration of how micromanaged people's lives are, watch Clarkson's farm. 53 00:02:49.240 --> 00:02:50.360 Have you seen that show? 54 00:02:50.639 --> 00:02:56.479 I have Jeremy Clarkson, And you know, it's, uh, it's funny, 55 00:02:56.520 --> 00:02:58.400 but it's sad exactly. 56 00:02:58.479 --> 00:03:00.960 You can't help but laughing. But you know, the the 57 00:03:01.639 --> 00:03:06.759 just the absolute micro management of literally anything he does 58 00:03:06.840 --> 00:03:10.439 on his own private property. It's they're just obsessed with it. 59 00:03:10.479 --> 00:03:12.680 But that's like the European Union. I mean, that's just 60 00:03:12.719 --> 00:03:15.840 the way they are. It is absolutely like the EU. 61 00:03:16.080 --> 00:03:20.439 And you know what's really sad about the UK is 62 00:03:21.319 --> 00:03:24.080 you know there our law is founded on their law 63 00:03:24.199 --> 00:03:28.000 of generalities, not you know, the Napoleonic Code very specific, 64 00:03:28.439 --> 00:03:30.879 the Germans very specific. You kind of get that, but 65 00:03:30.960 --> 00:03:34.280 this has even happened in the UK, which, by the way, 66 00:03:34.439 --> 00:03:37.439 they are very happy to say they have phased out coal, 67 00:03:37.879 --> 00:03:39.879 and they're less happy to say that they have the 68 00:03:40.000 --> 00:03:42.560 highest energy prices in all of Europe. 69 00:03:42.199 --> 00:03:45.879 Exactly, and they go hand in hand. I mean, you 70 00:03:45.960 --> 00:03:52.400 need inexpensive, reliable, emphasis on reliable energy production. If it 71 00:03:52.400 --> 00:03:54.360 ain't reliable, the lights are gonna go out, They're gonna 72 00:03:54.360 --> 00:03:57.080 be rolling blackouts, and that's you run into that you 73 00:03:57.080 --> 00:04:01.520 don't have some efficient, affordable support have energy clearly stated. 74 00:04:01.759 --> 00:04:06.400 Natural gas and coal are reasonably affordable and readily available 75 00:04:06.439 --> 00:04:12.360 and provide regular, unstoppable power production. Solar panels, windmills do not. 76 00:04:12.879 --> 00:04:15.400 And then they always want to exclude nuclear from the discussion. 77 00:04:15.560 --> 00:04:18.360 At least France has more nuclear plants and they can 78 00:04:18.399 --> 00:04:22.120 safely say that, look, we've got reliable energy production. But 79 00:04:22.360 --> 00:04:24.600 you can't say that in Germany. No, you can't say 80 00:04:24.639 --> 00:04:25.399 that in Germany. 81 00:04:25.519 --> 00:04:30.040 And you know, this is what happens when you know, 82 00:04:30.199 --> 00:04:34.519 people's politics get into policy, and Germans have always had 83 00:04:34.560 --> 00:04:36.720 an adverse reaction to nuclear power. 84 00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:39.040 It's been part of the their their. 85 00:04:38.879 --> 00:04:42.319 Green Party, which was until recently part of the governing coalition, 86 00:04:43.079 --> 00:04:47.600 and so the greens were given, you know, the Economic Ministry, 87 00:04:47.639 --> 00:04:51.399 which includes their climate and energy ministries, and they're like, 88 00:04:51.519 --> 00:04:53.639 you know, no, we're phasing all this stuff out. We're 89 00:04:53.639 --> 00:04:55.720 shutting down our nuclear power plants. 90 00:04:55.879 --> 00:04:59.439 But their mindset is stuck in you know, Chernobyl era 91 00:04:59.720 --> 00:05:03.839 or seventies era three Mile Island type mindset where yeah, 92 00:05:03.879 --> 00:05:06.759 there was some problems, but we don't have that technology anymore. 93 00:05:06.759 --> 00:05:11.439 We've got modern, safe, efficient, reliable, very little to no 94 00:05:11.560 --> 00:05:14.959 waste nuclear power production the form of these small modular 95 00:05:15.040 --> 00:05:18.120 reactors that can literally go anywhere and don't take up 96 00:05:18.120 --> 00:05:18.879 that much space. 97 00:05:19.360 --> 00:05:22.680 They don't and you know, speaking of that, the Trump 98 00:05:22.720 --> 00:05:29.920 administration is working toward adding four hundred gigawatts of nuclear 99 00:05:30.079 --> 00:05:36.240 power onto our grid by by mid century. So nuclear power. 100 00:05:36.560 --> 00:05:40.360 You're right. You know, I love classic cars, right, but 101 00:05:41.759 --> 00:05:46.959 you know all my dad's old nineteen sixty six Mustang 102 00:05:47.040 --> 00:05:49.279 was a great one, but it didn't exactly have the 103 00:05:49.360 --> 00:05:51.600 same features so modern car has. 104 00:05:51.800 --> 00:05:54.160 That's so funny you bring that up, because I am 105 00:05:54.160 --> 00:05:58.279 a huge fan of late sixties Mustang Fastbacks and my 106 00:05:58.360 --> 00:06:02.279 dad had a friend who did basically a rotisserie restoration 107 00:06:02.399 --> 00:06:05.839 on a sixty seven Mustang Fastback and he knew I 108 00:06:05.879 --> 00:06:07.720 loved him, and he said, I know he doesn't want 109 00:06:07.720 --> 00:06:09.199 to buy it, but he's walking to come over here 110 00:06:09.240 --> 00:06:11.319 and drive it. Like, oh my god, I've never been 111 00:06:11.360 --> 00:06:12.839 able to drive one. So my son and I went 112 00:06:12.879 --> 00:06:15.199 over to his house hopped in this thing, and I 113 00:06:15.279 --> 00:06:18.079 was so excited. Pulled out on a knee road and 114 00:06:18.360 --> 00:06:20.959 I ended up driving about four miles. I pulled back 115 00:06:20.959 --> 00:06:22.839 in his drive. He said, well, that was a short trip. 116 00:06:23.240 --> 00:06:26.120 I said, yeah, and my bubble is completely burst. Yeah. 117 00:06:26.319 --> 00:06:29.040 I mean you got to plan on breaking, you know, 118 00:06:29.240 --> 00:06:32.480 I mean, a know, four wheel disc brakes on that sucker, 119 00:06:32.560 --> 00:06:35.519 no power steering at all. It just it was like 120 00:06:35.639 --> 00:06:40.079 driving around in an empty coke can. Yes, just loud 121 00:06:40.319 --> 00:06:44.560 and flimsy. I mean, you know, it's like I take 122 00:06:44.600 --> 00:06:48.160 a modern car all day long over this rick anything. 123 00:06:48.319 --> 00:06:54.000 Well, yeah, my dad's was a a convertible and I 124 00:06:54.079 --> 00:06:57.240 really thought the chassis was going to come off the frame. 125 00:06:58.720 --> 00:07:02.360 For reason to modern cars, Yeah, but that was the 126 00:07:02.439 --> 00:07:05.800 norm back then, right, So to your point, a nineteen 127 00:07:06.199 --> 00:07:10.279 sixties nuclear power plant is not the same thing as 128 00:07:10.319 --> 00:07:12.439 a brand new power plant. The fuel is different. 129 00:07:13.279 --> 00:07:16.399 You know, nuclear fuel today is only enriched by three 130 00:07:16.879 --> 00:07:18.199 maybe four percent. 131 00:07:18.399 --> 00:07:21.600 It's not like the old stuff, not like what the 132 00:07:21.680 --> 00:07:22.560 Uranians were producing. 133 00:07:22.680 --> 00:07:27.000 No, no sixty plus for peaceful Yeah, yeah, whatever, it's not. 134 00:07:27.319 --> 00:07:31.040 And you know the way the reactors work today, they're 135 00:07:31.079 --> 00:07:33.639 just they're just far different. And you know, really, America 136 00:07:33.720 --> 00:07:37.199 needs to build these SMRs. They even have microreactors, and frankly, 137 00:07:37.279 --> 00:07:39.920 we need to keep building the large ones too. And 138 00:07:39.959 --> 00:07:43.920 there's a good new advanced gen it's called a Westinghouse 139 00:07:43.959 --> 00:07:48.199 design reactor that can produce a lot of power. So 140 00:07:48.240 --> 00:07:51.000 we need all of that. Yeah, and why not. 141 00:07:51.600 --> 00:07:53.879 It doesn't produce carbon for those people who are worried 142 00:07:53.879 --> 00:07:55.839 about carb production, and I think bring them. This is 143 00:07:55.879 --> 00:07:59.879 illustrative of the reality that they the left the green. 144 00:08:00.399 --> 00:08:08.519 They don't want inexpensive, abundant energy that creates comfort. It it 145 00:08:08.639 --> 00:08:12.360 bolsters the middle class, It makes living easier, more enjoyable, 146 00:08:12.480 --> 00:08:16.759 more comfortable. It creates wealth. And that's all the antithesis 147 00:08:16.759 --> 00:08:17.480 of what they want. 148 00:08:17.720 --> 00:08:19.240 It is they all want us to live in a 149 00:08:19.240 --> 00:08:23.759 communal society and be dependent upon the government and not drive, 150 00:08:23.920 --> 00:08:29.639 not have our own lifestyle because they are not free, 151 00:08:29.680 --> 00:08:33.440 open market society, wealth generation people. 152 00:08:33.519 --> 00:08:37.440 That's not their stick. Yeah, because capitalism destroys the planet 153 00:08:37.679 --> 00:08:40.320 or whatever. And the key to capitalism and wealth and 154 00:08:40.360 --> 00:08:45.960 abundance is inexpensive abundant electricity. So we'll continue to bring McCallan. 155 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:48.320 He's going to give you a fun fact speaking of France, 156 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:50.679 which is where he was for this economic conference conference, 157 00:08:51.120 --> 00:08:55.279 Franci's gross domestic product. 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You see 195 00:10:40.000 --> 00:10:44.080 Health has expert traumacare focusing on prevention, treating injuries, and 196 00:10:44.120 --> 00:10:46.440 supporting long term recovery and rehabilitation. 197 00:10:46.919 --> 00:10:49.000 Learnmore at you see health dot com. 198 00:10:49.320 --> 00:10:51.799 There's an accident to seventy five westbound at the Ward's 199 00:10:51.840 --> 00:10:54.519 Corner road. It's on the left shoulder, a stall two 200 00:10:54.559 --> 00:10:56.879 seventy five westbound at level of Madeira. It's on the 201 00:10:56.960 --> 00:11:00.240 right side, and the accident's seventy five seven where the 202 00:11:00.240 --> 00:11:04.240 Brent Spence Bridge has cleared but launched for residual delays. 203 00:11:04.480 --> 00:11:07.960 I'm Heather Passco on fifty five kre SEE the talk station. 204 00:11:09.080 --> 00:11:11.480 Seven nineteen to fifty five cair CD talk station. And 205 00:11:11.600 --> 00:11:13.039 by the time I see with Briga mcow from the 206 00:11:13.080 --> 00:11:17.159 Hudson Institute Energy policy expert, he is and he has 207 00:11:17.240 --> 00:11:20.240 a Charged Conversations podcast which I recommend you listen to, 208 00:11:20.519 --> 00:11:24.120 speaking about France. As we exited the segment, Brigham, you 209 00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:28.559 let me now, let's give France the props for getting 210 00:11:28.639 --> 00:11:32.399 sixty seven percent of their power from nuclear energy and 211 00:11:32.480 --> 00:11:35.039 that is an example of how you can have secure 212 00:11:35.200 --> 00:11:39.039 low carbon energy leadership. It's in the European Union. Germany's 213 00:11:39.039 --> 00:11:42.440 decided it's phasing out it's nuclear plants for reasons completely unknown, 214 00:11:42.480 --> 00:11:44.879 while it has one of the highest energy prices in 215 00:11:44.919 --> 00:11:48.320 the entire European Union. France I have gone the other way, 216 00:11:48.440 --> 00:11:51.399 relying on nuclear power a lots. That's great. Use them 217 00:11:51.399 --> 00:11:53.519 as an example. Have you had any problems with nuclear 218 00:11:53.559 --> 00:11:56.279 power in France? The answer no, right, no. 219 00:11:56.360 --> 00:11:58.279 In fact, the only problem you've had is because the 220 00:11:58.279 --> 00:12:00.919 grids are starting to be interconnected. The French are complaining 221 00:12:00.919 --> 00:12:03.679 because Germans want more and more electricity from France. 222 00:12:04.000 --> 00:12:06.120 Save me from myself, France. 223 00:12:06.960 --> 00:12:09.799 So they had that, and then the French had to 224 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:13.360 restart Spain after it's bread went down too. 225 00:12:13.639 --> 00:12:16.240 So yeah, yeah, well, thank god they had the nuclear 226 00:12:16.279 --> 00:12:19.480 power to provide enough that they have extra for everyone else. 227 00:12:19.679 --> 00:12:22.399 So I'm going to vivek Ramaswami when he was on 228 00:12:22.440 --> 00:12:24.440 the program, and I've talked to him several times about this. 229 00:12:24.720 --> 00:12:26.679 He wants to know how to be the leader in nuclear 230 00:12:26.720 --> 00:12:28.519 power so much so that we can actually have an 231 00:12:28.519 --> 00:12:32.080 abundance to sell to the idiots in the Northeast region 232 00:12:32.120 --> 00:12:35.039 who keep going the opposite direction facing power outages. So 233 00:12:35.799 --> 00:12:38.759 maybe some hopeful the state of Ohio here but pivoting 234 00:12:38.799 --> 00:12:41.240 over to France as a model while they do rely 235 00:12:41.320 --> 00:12:45.919 on nuclear power to their success. From an economic standpoint, 236 00:12:46.039 --> 00:12:48.679 I could not believe what you told me before the 237 00:12:48.720 --> 00:12:52.159 show started. Let my listeners know this fun fact. Yeah, 238 00:12:52.240 --> 00:12:55.559 you know, it's interesting. I didn't realize this fact. In France, 239 00:12:56.360 --> 00:13:00.039 the media and household income is between twenty five and 240 00:13:00.080 --> 00:13:04.159 thirty thousand euro that's about twenty eight to thirty two 241 00:13:04.399 --> 00:13:09.080 thousand dollars after tax, with a poverty rate of fourteen percent. 242 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:15.759 Basically that aligns with Mississippi, whose nominal GDP per capita 243 00:13:16.399 --> 00:13:20.000 is forty one thousand and median household incomes fifty four thousand, 244 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:23.120 with a pretty similar poverty rate. Well, so the entire 245 00:13:23.200 --> 00:13:25.799 country of France and everything that they build and produce 246 00:13:26.600 --> 00:13:29.000 gives you that standard of living. They've they've made it 247 00:13:29.080 --> 00:13:30.559 up there. And I'm not knocking Mississippi. 248 00:13:30.559 --> 00:13:32.039 I've got a kid that goes and goes to Ole, 249 00:13:32.159 --> 00:13:35.440 miss and you know, it's a great state. But when 250 00:13:35.440 --> 00:13:37.840 you think of France, right, you think of one of 251 00:13:37.879 --> 00:13:42.000 the largest countries in Europe. I don't think you think, well, yeah, 252 00:13:42.039 --> 00:13:45.399 they're about as rich as Mississippi. 253 00:13:45.600 --> 00:13:48.840 Yeah, I know, it's really really hard to believe. So 254 00:13:49.600 --> 00:13:51.799 what else did you learn at this conference? What was 255 00:13:51.840 --> 00:13:53.799 some of the takeaways you got from. 256 00:13:53.720 --> 00:13:55.480 Being well, yeah, yeah, I mean, well it was a 257 00:13:55.480 --> 00:14:00.679 great Honestly it was. You know, it's real thrilled to 258 00:14:00.720 --> 00:14:04.840 be invited to it. You know, almost nine thousand attendees 259 00:14:04.879 --> 00:14:07.840 on side one and a half million online views already. 260 00:14:08.000 --> 00:14:11.120 Wow. Yeah, so people do look at this. 261 00:14:11.200 --> 00:14:17.159 And the the good takeaway is people are starting to say, hey, 262 00:14:17.240 --> 00:14:19.799 we have to sort of become more realistic. In fact, 263 00:14:19.799 --> 00:14:22.639 the theme was the shock of reality, and the literal 264 00:14:22.679 --> 00:14:27.159 translation from French is it offends it offends me this 265 00:14:27.159 --> 00:14:30.559 this lack of reality. But then they immediately go down 266 00:14:30.639 --> 00:14:33.360 the rabbit hole of gosh, we need more regulations, and 267 00:14:33.399 --> 00:14:36.320 if we did more regulations, that would make us better 268 00:14:36.480 --> 00:14:39.320 and more competitive. And you know, I told them that 269 00:14:39.320 --> 00:14:42.159 they had it wrong. You need less regulation, You need 270 00:14:42.159 --> 00:14:46.639 to unleash innovation, and and that that never comes from 271 00:14:46.639 --> 00:14:49.039 the federal government trying to regulate something. 272 00:14:49.279 --> 00:14:52.759 No, it doesn't. They're not they're not interested in in 273 00:14:52.759 --> 00:14:56.960 in improving lives or coming up with new ideas. And honestly, 274 00:14:57.080 --> 00:15:00.960 anytime anytime something new comes out that there's a demand for, 275 00:15:01.120 --> 00:15:04.399 that becomes popular, the federal government decides or the state 276 00:15:04.399 --> 00:15:07.080 government's decide, well, we're going to tax that. And why 277 00:15:07.200 --> 00:15:09.720 is that? Why are you treating that particular category or 278 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:13.799 product as outside of the normal product. Well, because it's new, 279 00:15:13.919 --> 00:15:16.679 that's why. Yeah, I mean, vapes come to mind, and 280 00:15:16.679 --> 00:15:18.519 I know people are against vapes or in favor of 281 00:15:18.559 --> 00:15:21.679 apes for whatever reason, but you know, it's an alternative tobacco. 282 00:15:21.879 --> 00:15:25.799 Nicotine is not illegal. It's a nicotine delivery product. So 283 00:15:26.039 --> 00:15:28.320 why would you treat that any different than if you 284 00:15:28.399 --> 00:15:31.279 decided to open a chewing gum manufacturing company and sell 285 00:15:31.360 --> 00:15:33.320 chewing gum. Do you tax chewing gum at a twenty 286 00:15:33.360 --> 00:15:37.039 percent higher rate just because it's chewing gum? No? But 287 00:15:37.080 --> 00:15:38.080 you see, it's new. 288 00:15:38.519 --> 00:15:41.919 You know you have this in Europe And in fact, 289 00:15:41.919 --> 00:15:44.360 one of the complaints is, well, energy prices are too high, 290 00:15:44.360 --> 00:15:46.360 so we will just put a cap on how high 291 00:15:46.480 --> 00:15:47.440 energy prices can be. 292 00:15:47.799 --> 00:15:49.200 And I'm like you, guys, you're economists. 293 00:15:49.240 --> 00:15:51.960 Do you not understand the law of supply and demand? Guys, 294 00:15:52.120 --> 00:15:54.960 nine economists at this, and they come up with that. 295 00:15:55.120 --> 00:16:01.000 They yeah, they come mom, Donnie. And then on the 296 00:16:01.039 --> 00:16:04.480 opening session there was a gentleman from a Council of 297 00:16:04.519 --> 00:16:08.759 Economic Advisors on the White House who's probably a career person, 298 00:16:08.919 --> 00:16:12.200 not necessarily a politically appointed person. White House has more 299 00:16:12.200 --> 00:16:15.679 career people that work there than you know, politically appointed people. 300 00:16:15.720 --> 00:16:20.279 And a lady on stage who's a member of the 301 00:16:20.360 --> 00:16:24.720 EU Parliament from France was just going after him for 302 00:16:25.039 --> 00:16:28.200 Trump and he's rude and obnoxious and this is not 303 00:16:28.320 --> 00:16:31.559 how you treat friends. And he said, oh, well, don't 304 00:16:31.600 --> 00:16:34.799 treat friends by having disparate trade policies. You don't treat 305 00:16:34.879 --> 00:16:39.960 friends by singling out American companies. You don't, You're not 306 00:16:40.120 --> 00:16:44.120 friends by And the more he said in a logical fashion, 307 00:16:44.200 --> 00:16:45.399 the more she emotionally. 308 00:16:45.919 --> 00:16:47.679 I thought she was going to helicopter off the stage 309 00:16:47.919 --> 00:16:50.240 through the roof. That's what happens when they're confronted with 310 00:16:50.279 --> 00:16:53.159 logic and reason. Yeah, the name calling and the broadbrush 311 00:16:53.200 --> 00:16:57.320 painting falls apart under any thoughtful analysis and they're left 312 00:16:57.399 --> 00:17:00.000 with literally nothing to defend their position with, so they 313 00:17:00.039 --> 00:17:01.879 start screaming and calling names. 314 00:17:01.559 --> 00:17:05.000 And yes, and actually a couple other French panel members 315 00:17:05.720 --> 00:17:10.240 chastised her and said, look, you know, the game has changed. 316 00:17:11.559 --> 00:17:14.119 Trump has done positive things for Europe. We've not been 317 00:17:14.160 --> 00:17:16.359 paying for our defense for fifty years. And if you 318 00:17:16.359 --> 00:17:20.599 look at it from America's perspective, they've been guaranteeing European 319 00:17:20.680 --> 00:17:24.400 security for over one hundred years. 320 00:17:25.640 --> 00:17:28.359 So and what did it deliver us a whole block 321 00:17:28.400 --> 00:17:31.160 of basically socialist, micromanaged countries. 322 00:17:31.440 --> 00:17:33.839 Well, instead of spending money on defense, they've been spending 323 00:17:33.880 --> 00:17:35.319 it on all their social programs. 324 00:17:36.079 --> 00:17:39.480 Into the logical argument on that, why would they want 325 00:17:39.559 --> 00:17:42.119 to be beholden to the United States of America for 326 00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:42.880 their security? 327 00:17:43.799 --> 00:17:46.920 Well, I think you know, the reality is they felt 328 00:17:46.960 --> 00:17:49.480 the end of the Soviet Union it was all good. 329 00:17:49.599 --> 00:17:52.960 I've always used that our moral barometer ended when the 330 00:17:53.000 --> 00:17:56.000 Soviet Union fell. It really did. But you've got Brian. 331 00:17:56.079 --> 00:17:59.640 You have other countries like Poland, who since the fall 332 00:17:59.680 --> 00:18:05.720 of communism have seen their economy increase ninefold. They're now 333 00:18:05.759 --> 00:18:08.880 in the top twenty of all countries in the world. 334 00:18:08.960 --> 00:18:12.799 Because the Central and Eastern European people get it, because 335 00:18:12.799 --> 00:18:14.480 they're not so far removed from. 336 00:18:14.279 --> 00:18:16.960 It, they remember it like it was yesterday. Do not 337 00:18:17.279 --> 00:18:19.960 go down that road or back down that road is 338 00:18:19.960 --> 00:18:22.000 the case. Maybe mor Briga mcgawan and seven twenty six 339 00:18:22.279 --> 00:18:23.880 up and seven twenty seven right now fifty five cares 340 00:18:23.920 --> 00:18:26.279 to the detoxation. Another opportunity for minute of place. 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I'm Heather Pasco on fifty five krc the 377 00:20:13.759 --> 00:20:14.720 talk Station. 378 00:20:16.079 --> 00:20:19.079 Seven thirty one, fifty five KRCV talk Station, Happy Friday. 379 00:20:19.200 --> 00:20:23.640 Brian Thomas here with Hudson Institute and Miami University professor 380 00:20:24.279 --> 00:20:26.839 Brigham McGowan talking energy policy on his return from the 381 00:20:26.880 --> 00:20:31.480 Economic Summit in Europe. Wildly popular. Nine thousand attendees that 382 00:20:31.519 --> 00:20:34.880 are economists and other noted notables like Brigha McGowan. More 383 00:20:34.880 --> 00:20:36.839 than a million and a half online viewers so far, 384 00:20:37.000 --> 00:20:40.240 three hundred journalists showing up. Talk about economic policy, Energy 385 00:20:40.279 --> 00:20:44.599 policy included. And did the subject of the European Unions 386 00:20:44.640 --> 00:20:47.119 and NATO's security come up, because you got this little 387 00:20:47.119 --> 00:20:50.279 pesky thing called Russia's invasion of Ukraine, and I know 388 00:20:50.319 --> 00:20:52.519 they're all incensed about it, and they keep looking to 389 00:20:52.640 --> 00:20:55.599 us to provide Ukraine with more weapons, even though there 390 00:20:55.599 --> 00:20:58.720 are very few Ukrainian soldiers left to operate them. Russia 391 00:20:58.720 --> 00:21:01.920 continues to make advances. It's been a brutal bloodbath for 392 00:21:01.960 --> 00:21:06.279 both sides. It just looks awful. But since Ukraine is 393 00:21:06.319 --> 00:21:08.079 not a member of NATO, they're not part of the 394 00:21:08.079 --> 00:21:10.799 European Union. They just happen to be sort of right there. 395 00:21:11.039 --> 00:21:14.279 Has it brought about me? Is there any concern awakening 396 00:21:14.319 --> 00:21:16.440 over security? Clearly there has been a move in the 397 00:21:16.519 --> 00:21:19.279 right direction where they're going to start defending themselves or 398 00:21:19.279 --> 00:21:21.559 at least have the ability to defend themselves with this 399 00:21:21.640 --> 00:21:25.480 five percent GDP allocation for military reasons and security reasons. 400 00:21:25.680 --> 00:21:28.119 But what about how does this relate to energy policy? 401 00:21:28.480 --> 00:21:31.319