WEBVTT 1 00:00:15.720 --> 00:00:20.120 Hello, and welcome everybody to episode one forty of Cards 2 00:00:20.120 --> 00:00:23.480 and Categories. I'm my Coolard from Baseball Perspectus and I 3 00:00:23.519 --> 00:00:26.960 am joined as always by my very good friend but 4 00:00:27.359 --> 00:00:30.280 from on the road, Jeremy Brewer from Rasball. How are 5 00:00:30.280 --> 00:00:31.399 you doing tonight, Buddy. 6 00:00:31.719 --> 00:00:32.840 Doing well, doing well. 7 00:00:32.880 --> 00:00:36.119 I'm in Nashville today that we were talking before we started, 8 00:00:36.159 --> 00:00:38.399 right across the campus for Vanderbilt, so trying to get 9 00:00:38.399 --> 00:00:41.799 some scouting done, but they're unfortunately not playing. So I'm 10 00:00:41.840 --> 00:00:43.759 just happy to be here at the wrong time of year. 11 00:00:45.119 --> 00:00:47.359 Maybe not the wrong time of year, but just off 12 00:00:47.359 --> 00:00:50.759 by a few weeks. But anyway, on the road, traveling, 13 00:00:50.840 --> 00:00:52.880 but we can't miss out on a good podcast. So 14 00:00:52.880 --> 00:00:55.000 excited to be here, excited to chat with some baseball. 15 00:00:55.520 --> 00:00:58.479 Yeah, I mean, maybe not the greatest year or to 16 00:00:58.600 --> 00:01:01.280 have been in Nashville trying to see some Vandy baseball. 17 00:01:01.320 --> 00:01:03.439 This is not their finest year. It's kind of an 18 00:01:03.479 --> 00:01:07.079 upside down SEC standings that LSU has also been bottom 19 00:01:07.120 --> 00:01:10.359 three along with South Carolina and Missoo bringing up the 20 00:01:10.359 --> 00:01:13.120 rear pretty much as always in the SEC that my 21 00:01:13.760 --> 00:01:16.760 littlest brother went to MISSOO and I am always like 22 00:01:16.879 --> 00:01:18.760 do you ever go to any baseball games, and like 23 00:01:19.079 --> 00:01:20.959 because Max Sures went through there and stuff, and I 24 00:01:20.959 --> 00:01:23.159 think Ian Kinsler too. I was like, you know, maybe 25 00:01:23.159 --> 00:01:25.120 it's a good program. He's like, no, not since Ian 26 00:01:25.200 --> 00:01:27.760 Kinsler Max Schures are and that makes me feel old. 27 00:01:28.799 --> 00:01:32.159 Yeah, yeah, let's let's not talk about that. 28 00:01:34.000 --> 00:01:37.120 I mean, it will be a good weekend for college baseball, 29 00:01:37.159 --> 00:01:38.920 so I'm looking forward to that. You got a lot 30 00:01:38.959 --> 00:01:41.920 of like the tourney starting to kick off and all 31 00:01:42.239 --> 00:01:46.079 the comings and goings of college baseball playoffs, which will 32 00:01:46.319 --> 00:01:48.079 be fun. But we're going to focus on the MLB 33 00:01:48.200 --> 00:01:50.519 side here a little bit. We've got a pretty loose 34 00:01:50.560 --> 00:01:53.640 agenda because you are on the road. Where, uh, what 35 00:01:54.280 --> 00:01:56.680 hotel chains Wi Fi are we counting on to hold 36 00:01:56.719 --> 00:01:57.079 us through. 37 00:01:57.719 --> 00:02:02.719 We're at the Low's Nashville, so it's love so the 38 00:02:02.760 --> 00:02:03.760 Wi Fi will hold out. 39 00:02:03.799 --> 00:02:06.760 I think we got a good chance here, but if 40 00:02:06.799 --> 00:02:08.639 not all just like I said, there's probably a university 41 00:02:08.680 --> 00:02:11.159 library nearby that I can go to. I'm sure that 42 00:02:11.199 --> 00:02:13.800 they'll allow a random guy to go in podcasts in 43 00:02:13.840 --> 00:02:14.439 their library. 44 00:02:14.719 --> 00:02:18.280 Yeah, that's totally totally cool with everybody who's got open 45 00:02:18.319 --> 00:02:21.039 Wi Fi networks as well as like I mean, it 46 00:02:21.159 --> 00:02:24.960 is strange having a baseball related conversation not on Marriott WiFi. 47 00:02:25.120 --> 00:02:27.360 So we'll see if the Internet allows us to get 48 00:02:27.360 --> 00:02:31.599 through this pod successfully. First, if you are checking out 49 00:02:31.639 --> 00:02:33.639 this podcast, going too those show notes, I will be 50 00:02:33.719 --> 00:02:36.560 linking to everything that we are discussing. 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So certainly lots of 60 00:03:08.919 --> 00:03:12.319 great stuff going on at rasball check it out, but 61 00:03:12.400 --> 00:03:14.120 we are going to get into the news and notes 62 00:03:14.159 --> 00:03:16.560 that are down there. You could probably tell from because 63 00:03:16.560 --> 00:03:21.120 I'm gonna nickname or I'm gonna name this podcast loose. 64 00:03:21.800 --> 00:03:23.840 Feeling loose, I think is what I'm gonna go with, 65 00:03:23.879 --> 00:03:27.599 because we've got loose bodies everywhere. They've been leaking all 66 00:03:27.639 --> 00:03:30.840 across the big leagues. Now, I do think that we 67 00:03:30.879 --> 00:03:34.080 have an interesting conversation here because one of them is 68 00:03:34.159 --> 00:03:36.680 going of the new injuries, is going the route of 69 00:03:36.719 --> 00:03:40.599 Treek schoobl who we actually saw on the field this 70 00:03:40.680 --> 00:03:43.599 week that he's already doing long toss and to be 71 00:03:43.680 --> 00:03:47.319 able to come back very quickly from that elbow surgery. 72 00:03:47.360 --> 00:03:50.879 So it seems like some of the agents speak that 73 00:03:51.000 --> 00:03:53.680 was coming from the Scott Boris and John Hayman's side 74 00:03:54.240 --> 00:03:56.199 might have been closer to the truth than I think 75 00:03:56.240 --> 00:03:59.840 I initially anticipated. In Treek Schouble, what they did with 76 00:04:00.159 --> 00:04:03.159 that procedure on Scooble was it was a small loose 77 00:04:03.199 --> 00:04:06.319 body that gets it's been quoted over and over that 78 00:04:06.439 --> 00:04:08.919 was the size of a lima bean that they pulled 79 00:04:08.919 --> 00:04:10.800 out of there. And essentially what was happening in trigued 80 00:04:10.800 --> 00:04:14.439 Schoobel's elbow was that that lima bean would become wedged 81 00:04:14.479 --> 00:04:18.480 in between bits of the elbow and cause pain and soreness. 82 00:04:18.519 --> 00:04:22.720 And so what they did is what Boris named a 83 00:04:23.040 --> 00:04:26.959 scoobole scope, which actually I think he might have been 84 00:04:26.959 --> 00:04:30.839 onto something that it was like a clever bit of branding, 85 00:04:30.879 --> 00:04:32.639 you know, kind of like Tommy John surgery or something 86 00:04:33.000 --> 00:04:35.000 where we thought it was just Boris hamming it up. 87 00:04:35.240 --> 00:04:37.759 I think there is a newer procedure for this that 88 00:04:37.759 --> 00:04:40.560 they've been starting to use, because well, I'll just get 89 00:04:40.639 --> 00:04:42.879 into it. We've got two new pictures that are down 90 00:04:42.920 --> 00:04:46.399 with loose bodies, Max Freed and Blake Snell. It sounds 91 00:04:46.439 --> 00:04:49.240 like Bike Snell. No, maybe Max me I should have 92 00:04:49.279 --> 00:04:52.920 maybe pulled up the actual milbe trade rumors better. But 93 00:04:53.519 --> 00:04:58.160 they are undergoing the actual kind of scubale scope or whatever, 94 00:04:59.120 --> 00:05:03.279 and so that will maybe make the time frame a 95 00:05:03.319 --> 00:05:06.120 little bit quicker here than what we were used to. 96 00:05:06.160 --> 00:05:08.079 And I think it's I read that it was Snell. 97 00:05:08.120 --> 00:05:09.639 It's going to be undergoing. 98 00:05:09.240 --> 00:05:14.319 The uh undergoing undergo a scubole scope and food has 99 00:05:14.600 --> 00:05:16.879 They're calling it a bone bruise at this point in time. 100 00:05:16.959 --> 00:05:18.240 Which is more concerning. 101 00:05:19.519 --> 00:05:21.920 I'm not sure if it's more concerning or less concerning. 102 00:05:22.560 --> 00:05:25.160 It's kind of in the middle thereof to your point, 103 00:05:25.160 --> 00:05:27.480 if you're just taking a single loose body out, maybe 104 00:05:27.480 --> 00:05:30.319 that's a little bit better if you can truly scope 105 00:05:30.319 --> 00:05:32.639 something like that. The bone bruise is one of those 106 00:05:32.680 --> 00:05:34.399 that just like, how did you get a bone bruise? 107 00:05:34.439 --> 00:05:38.120 In your in your elbow and what what really is 108 00:05:38.160 --> 00:05:40.879 the precursors that is that now inflammation is the issues. 109 00:05:40.920 --> 00:05:42.839 And you know they're saying he's gonna be shut down 110 00:05:42.839 --> 00:05:44.879 for a few weeks and then they'll kind of see 111 00:05:44.879 --> 00:05:48.000 from there, which is I think always the thing you 112 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:49.439 don't want to see from. I feel like we've had 113 00:05:49.480 --> 00:05:51.120 a rash that this year, and like I think in 114 00:05:51.160 --> 00:05:53.560 just like the last two weeks has been like Chris Bubich, 115 00:05:54.120 --> 00:05:57.720 Cole Reagan's uh read like a number of guys that 116 00:05:57.759 --> 00:06:00.920 have just been put on the I L because of 117 00:06:01.240 --> 00:06:04.040 some type of injury. But it's just I need a 118 00:06:04.040 --> 00:06:05.680 little bit of time off and work my way back 119 00:06:05.720 --> 00:06:07.639 and then would be injured again work my way back. 120 00:06:07.639 --> 00:06:10.560 And I think both those aforementioned Kansas State Royals have 121 00:06:10.600 --> 00:06:12.519 already played that game. They think they're both on their 122 00:06:12.560 --> 00:06:15.639 second since if I recall, and so I think the 123 00:06:15.680 --> 00:06:17.560 same can be saved for Free, who's also a great 124 00:06:17.600 --> 00:06:21.800 start this year. But it's it is concerning it it's 125 00:06:21.800 --> 00:06:23.199 one of those or something much you can do. You 126 00:06:23.240 --> 00:06:26.920 got to hold them and wait versus you know, Snell, 127 00:06:27.160 --> 00:06:28.959 And I actually give the Dodger just credit on the 128 00:06:28.959 --> 00:06:31.480 Snell They're just they're making a choice, which is I 129 00:06:31.480 --> 00:06:33.439 think is better than some other organizations. 130 00:06:34.399 --> 00:06:37.399 Yeah, and it is, so thank you for correcting me. 131 00:06:37.480 --> 00:06:39.759 You were obviously reading the news a little bit better 132 00:06:40.079 --> 00:06:43.040 than I have been from your hotel there in Nashville. 133 00:06:43.240 --> 00:06:46.160 Freed is dealing with a bruised elbow. Snell is the 134 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:48.279 one dealing with loose bodies, and he is doing the 135 00:06:48.360 --> 00:06:52.079 Nando needle is the more official kind of terminology. But 136 00:06:52.160 --> 00:06:55.519 they not yea, not the scoopbol scope. It can't and 137 00:06:55.560 --> 00:06:58.759 it can't be the be the Blake snake because we've 138 00:06:58.759 --> 00:07:03.199 already got scoobole scope and nanoneedle, so Snell will be 139 00:07:03.240 --> 00:07:05.839 down with that surgery. But it does sound like they're 140 00:07:05.879 --> 00:07:08.240 getting it lined up to what you would see in 141 00:07:08.360 --> 00:07:12.040 terms of a more typical surgery timeline there, where they're 142 00:07:12.079 --> 00:07:16.040 saying two to three ish months, which is where Edwin 143 00:07:16.120 --> 00:07:19.319 Diaz was as well. I also do wonder if there 144 00:07:19.360 --> 00:07:22.319 is a little bit of a factor between, you know, 145 00:07:22.839 --> 00:07:25.800 with Treek Scuoble and Blake Snell getting these surgeries and 146 00:07:26.000 --> 00:07:29.519 Edwin Diaz that you know, these are teams between the 147 00:07:29.600 --> 00:07:34.199 Dodgers and the Yankees, and well, the Yankees with Max 148 00:07:34.240 --> 00:07:36.560 Free kind of shutting him down with this elbow soreness. 149 00:07:37.040 --> 00:07:40.079 Treeks Scouble is going into free agency. I do wonder 150 00:07:40.160 --> 00:07:43.079 if there is like some push right now. You know 151 00:07:43.160 --> 00:07:45.160 at this point too, you know you can go down 152 00:07:45.199 --> 00:07:48.199 for two or three months and still return and get 153 00:07:48.199 --> 00:07:51.079 in tune for the playoffs. You're looking at a bunch 154 00:07:51.120 --> 00:07:54.800 of players here that are headed towards the playoffs, looking 155 00:07:54.879 --> 00:07:57.399 for deep runs. I wonder if that is a part 156 00:07:57.399 --> 00:07:59.959 of the calculus as well, especially when you're looking at 157 00:08:00.360 --> 00:08:04.199 Snell and Diaz from the Dodgers, in terms of let's 158 00:08:04.240 --> 00:08:06.399 get the surgery done now, let's get it out of 159 00:08:06.439 --> 00:08:08.439 the way, let's rehab so that you're ready to go 160 00:08:08.480 --> 00:08:12.399 on October. Because it does feel like it's a little 161 00:08:12.399 --> 00:08:15.000 bit like when we were going through the spat of 162 00:08:15.040 --> 00:08:18.399 like the damaged UCLs and everybody was like, actually, every 163 00:08:18.399 --> 00:08:21.040 pitcher has a pretty banged up UCL. It's just kind 164 00:08:21.040 --> 00:08:25.000 of what degree of UCL damage do we have. I 165 00:08:25.000 --> 00:08:27.600 think there's something similar going on with loose bodies here too, 166 00:08:27.680 --> 00:08:33.039 where there's an element of the volume of damage that 167 00:08:33.080 --> 00:08:36.879 pitching does to your arm. It creates, you know, calcified 168 00:08:36.879 --> 00:08:40.240 bone deposits it creates just other gunk going on in 169 00:08:40.320 --> 00:08:44.159 the overall elbow that I'm wondering if there is a 170 00:08:44.200 --> 00:08:46.840 pattern here where the teams are saying, hey, let's get 171 00:08:46.840 --> 00:08:48.320 this put out of the way now so you're not 172 00:08:48.360 --> 00:08:51.279 dealing with it for another couple of weeks. What do 173 00:08:51.320 --> 00:08:55.440 you think is it something where the concentration of all 174 00:08:55.440 --> 00:08:57.960 these injuries is happening You think maybe because of some 175 00:08:58.000 --> 00:09:00.799 of that prevention, or is it just the luck of 176 00:09:00.840 --> 00:09:02.639 the dice that they're all kind of coming up snake 177 00:09:02.639 --> 00:09:03.279 eyes right now? 178 00:09:04.279 --> 00:09:06.240 Yeah, I mean I would say maybe a little bit 179 00:09:06.240 --> 00:09:08.360 more luck of the dice, But I also think a 180 00:09:08.399 --> 00:09:10.840 little bit has to do with the fact that there 181 00:09:10.840 --> 00:09:13.440 does seem to be a better treatment than what there 182 00:09:13.480 --> 00:09:15.120 has been the past, and so in the past I 183 00:09:15.159 --> 00:09:17.440 think maybe not been reported quite the same way where 184 00:09:17.480 --> 00:09:22.120 it might just be inflammation or dead arm or things 185 00:09:22.159 --> 00:09:24.279 like that, which are a little bit more broad terms, 186 00:09:24.279 --> 00:09:26.360 and they're not going to get into hey, there's loose bodies, 187 00:09:26.399 --> 00:09:29.039 because now we're going to have to debate a year 188 00:09:29.080 --> 00:09:30.240 long surgery or something like that. 189 00:09:30.279 --> 00:09:31.279 So I do think some of it. 190 00:09:31.240 --> 00:09:34.320 Is the medical advancement, to be honest, and when they're 191 00:09:34.320 --> 00:09:36.360 looking at and saying, hey, this guy can be out 192 00:09:36.399 --> 00:09:38.799 for two months and be back later this year. We 193 00:09:38.840 --> 00:09:41.759 could see that he's fully healthy, normal offseason. There's a 194 00:09:41.840 --> 00:09:44.919 ton to gain from that, versus let's do a platelet 195 00:09:45.120 --> 00:09:48.320 rich injection and then let's give him a month of rest, 196 00:09:48.440 --> 00:09:50.440 Like we can just go ahead and get it addressed 197 00:09:50.519 --> 00:09:52.559 and end up in the same exact spot, but not 198 00:09:52.639 --> 00:09:56.320 have the concerns of will he be back, can he rehab? 199 00:09:56.360 --> 00:09:58.759 All those types of things. So I think there's a 200 00:09:58.759 --> 00:10:01.919 combination of things going on here. Yeah, definitely some just 201 00:10:02.240 --> 00:10:05.279 coincidental timing, But I think really it comes down to 202 00:10:05.320 --> 00:10:08.440 a little bit of this advancement from a medical perspective 203 00:10:08.440 --> 00:10:12.360 where folks can actually make the call and they don't 204 00:10:12.360 --> 00:10:14.639 have to hide behind some of those other terms that 205 00:10:15.200 --> 00:10:19.240 are just broad. It's always like the the sore elbow 206 00:10:19.559 --> 00:10:21.240 going to get evaluated for a second time. 207 00:10:21.759 --> 00:10:22.759 Used to meeting Tommy John. 208 00:10:23.799 --> 00:10:28.080 Now you know there's some different bone bruise maybe means 209 00:10:28.159 --> 00:10:32.440 loose bodies, which means two month surgery. So I guess 210 00:10:32.440 --> 00:10:36.039 to be seen, but it definitely seems like just the 211 00:10:36.120 --> 00:10:38.879 nature of the game there, they're being a little more 212 00:10:38.879 --> 00:10:41.360 aggressive with picture injuries than what we've seen in the past. 213 00:10:42.039 --> 00:10:44.279 Yeah, yeah, I think that's very fair, and I mean, 214 00:10:44.320 --> 00:10:46.639 I think you'll also see this kind of reflected in 215 00:10:48.080 --> 00:10:50.679 you know, Marmo's Dad's rankings that came out this week. 216 00:10:50.720 --> 00:10:53.279 You know, Sarah's did a big update of rankings on 217 00:10:53.360 --> 00:10:57.200 the Athletic where the top there keeps being more and 218 00:10:57.240 --> 00:11:00.120 more players moving towards the top because we're losing more 219 00:11:00.120 --> 00:11:04.320 and more pitching arms from the ranks, and so you know, 220 00:11:04.960 --> 00:11:10.240 you're getting some pretty generous rises from some players across 221 00:11:10.279 --> 00:11:13.200 the board. As you know, you've even got Shane McClanahan 222 00:11:13.279 --> 00:11:15.879 sneaking in the top twenty fives now just because I mean, 223 00:11:15.879 --> 00:11:18.480 the dude can barely go five innings, but because of 224 00:11:18.960 --> 00:11:21.960 the people falling around down around him, he's still moving 225 00:11:21.960 --> 00:11:24.600 his way up. But I think it is going to 226 00:11:24.679 --> 00:11:26.639 be a fascinating year as we kind of sort these 227 00:11:26.679 --> 00:11:29.320 things out, and it doesn't necessarily look like there's quite 228 00:11:29.360 --> 00:11:32.360 the saviors that we had last year in terms of 229 00:11:32.399 --> 00:11:37.960 you know, the Nolan McLain's, the Trey Savages is, the 230 00:11:37.960 --> 00:11:42.399 the Jacob Misowski's, Chase Burns is those type of arms 231 00:11:42.440 --> 00:11:45.279 really came through the ranks quickly last year. And I 232 00:11:45.320 --> 00:11:48.080 don't know about you, but I haven't. The minor league 233 00:11:48.080 --> 00:11:52.399 pitching has been much more meh for me this year, 234 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:55.720 and especially like I know Kate Anderson is carving it 235 00:11:55.799 --> 00:11:58.360 up down in Double A, but there's a ball change 236 00:11:58.360 --> 00:12:00.559 that happens from Double A to Triple A in the 237 00:12:00.600 --> 00:12:03.440 majors that trips up a lot of guys. I guess 238 00:12:03.480 --> 00:12:05.919 a lot of those players I just listed off before 239 00:12:06.039 --> 00:12:11.679 getting into Katie Anderson is not We're not immune to that. 240 00:12:11.799 --> 00:12:13.159 Last year, you know, they had to go through it 241 00:12:13.200 --> 00:12:15.679 and they did okay. But any players maybe in the 242 00:12:15.679 --> 00:12:18.480 minors that you're targeting to try to replace some of 243 00:12:18.519 --> 00:12:20.480 these guys or what are your thoughts on just the 244 00:12:20.600 --> 00:12:23.159 overall talent level down in the miners. 245 00:12:24.320 --> 00:12:27.080 Yeah, I think the first thing that I'm looking at 246 00:12:27.159 --> 00:12:29.440 is probably not the minor league pitching. It's kind of 247 00:12:29.679 --> 00:12:32.879 those just like back in arms that can give you 248 00:12:32.919 --> 00:12:36.279 some volume and be in games. Like I saw one 249 00:12:36.279 --> 00:12:39.679 of more leagues, Andre Polonte nominated today, and I'm like, well, 250 00:12:40.240 --> 00:12:41.679 you know, a guy with a one point three whip 251 00:12:41.759 --> 00:12:43.840 keeping him below four ARRA and the chance for wins. 252 00:12:44.039 --> 00:12:46.279 It's a little more attractive than has been in the past. 253 00:12:46.720 --> 00:12:51.360 Because his arms not falling apart. But from a pitcher 254 00:12:51.360 --> 00:12:54.600 perspective in the minor leagues, I do think you're correct 255 00:12:54.600 --> 00:12:57.720 where right now it is a little bit thin at 256 00:12:57.720 --> 00:13:01.960 the upper miners. I think they're is still some some 257 00:13:02.039 --> 00:13:05.000 really you know, valuable arms down in the miners. And 258 00:13:05.039 --> 00:13:09.639 so you've got your guys like Seth Fernandez, Anthony Ivans, 259 00:13:09.639 --> 00:13:13.440 and Tyler Bremner as another guy that's kind of coming 260 00:13:13.480 --> 00:13:16.200 through that might actually get a chance to come up 261 00:13:16.200 --> 00:13:19.080 this year. Jonah Tong definitely should get a look this year. 262 00:13:19.759 --> 00:13:23.440 Even some bigger names like Secora Trevis Sikora who was 263 00:13:23.519 --> 00:13:26.639 hurt last year. He should be back hopefully late later 264 00:13:26.679 --> 00:13:29.080 this year, looking looking good. 265 00:13:29.120 --> 00:13:31.879 But then once you get past that, a lot of 266 00:13:31.960 --> 00:13:33.080 there's a lot of question marks. 267 00:13:33.080 --> 00:13:37.679 You get, you know, a Hagen Smith, if you get 268 00:13:37.840 --> 00:13:40.600 a Liam Doyle. You get guys like that that look 269 00:13:40.720 --> 00:13:42.639 like they should be ready to make some of those jumps, 270 00:13:42.639 --> 00:13:44.879 but they still got some things to work out, some 271 00:13:44.919 --> 00:13:47.200 control issues things like that, kind of like Noah Schultz 272 00:13:47.200 --> 00:13:49.440 who look great in the minors, but we knew there 273 00:13:49.480 --> 00:13:51.159 was some control issues there they had to figure out. 274 00:13:51.159 --> 00:13:54.840 So it feels like there's probably not you know the 275 00:13:55.200 --> 00:13:57.840 next guy up. Like I said, Jonah Tong, might be 276 00:13:57.919 --> 00:14:00.679 that it feels like the Mets, as you know, losing 277 00:14:00.720 --> 00:14:07.440 pitchers time after time. But I think the real true 278 00:14:07.480 --> 00:14:11.519 talent from the minor league pitching is definitely definitely further 279 00:14:11.679 --> 00:14:15.200 away at this point with guys like hernandez a Andsen, 280 00:14:16.120 --> 00:14:19.960 even sloan guys like that are further away. And if 281 00:14:19.960 --> 00:14:21.720 you're gonna be investing in minor league pitching from a 282 00:14:22.720 --> 00:14:26.919 single season league, it's probably not gonna play off terribly well. 283 00:14:27.840 --> 00:14:30.960 But if you're playing in the dynasty world, there's quite 284 00:14:31.000 --> 00:14:32.879 a bit out there because some guys are really making 285 00:14:32.879 --> 00:14:34.480 some breakthroughs in the low miners. 286 00:14:34.799 --> 00:14:37.600 Yeah, yeah, I think that's fair even with the Mets, 287 00:14:37.639 --> 00:14:40.159 like it's not. It sounds like Zach Thornton is gonna 288 00:14:40.200 --> 00:14:42.840 be the one that's actually coming up for that rotation spot, 289 00:14:42.879 --> 00:14:46.240 and he's looked solid, but he actually maybe disproves what 290 00:14:46.279 --> 00:14:48.759 I was talking about with the jump from double A 291 00:14:49.000 --> 00:14:51.720 up because he looked pretty much the same from double 292 00:14:51.759 --> 00:14:54.080 A to triple A. So I think there's probably the 293 00:14:54.080 --> 00:14:57.000 case that there'll be more sneaky arms, but it doesn't 294 00:14:57.039 --> 00:15:00.480 quite feel like it does feel like a lot of 295 00:15:00.639 --> 00:15:03.559 the easy pickings kind of came through in twenty twenty 296 00:15:03.559 --> 00:15:05.240 five as opposed to twenty twenty six. 297 00:15:05.279 --> 00:15:06.919 Now, yeah, I think that's fair. 298 00:15:07.120 --> 00:15:11.559 Okay, let's get on to the next injury, which actually 299 00:15:11.919 --> 00:15:15.480 felled the number one player on the RAS Ball Player 300 00:15:15.559 --> 00:15:18.720 Raider as of today as we're when we're speaking here 301 00:15:18.720 --> 00:15:22.440 on May nineteenth, Drake Baldwin was number one on the 302 00:15:22.440 --> 00:15:26.200 Player Raider coming into today, Catcher from the Atlanta Braves 303 00:15:26.240 --> 00:15:30.440 going down with a right oblique strain, which is not 304 00:15:30.519 --> 00:15:33.759 what you want to hear because that is a pretty 305 00:15:33.799 --> 00:15:38.840 significant injury. And also on top of it, he was 306 00:15:38.879 --> 00:15:40.759 starting to catch a lot more and I think was 307 00:15:40.799 --> 00:15:44.159 needed to catch a lot more, as evidenced by the 308 00:15:44.200 --> 00:15:48.679 Braves turning to Sandy Leone with Sean Murphy going down 309 00:15:48.720 --> 00:15:53.360 recently too. So it looks like Drake Baldwin is probably 310 00:15:53.360 --> 00:15:56.000 going to be out. My guesstimate would be six ish weeks. 311 00:15:56.039 --> 00:15:58.159 We'll kind of see, because the next guy will talk 312 00:15:58.159 --> 00:16:01.200 about it. Sounds like it's a lot a severe compared 313 00:16:01.200 --> 00:16:04.360 to what Baldwin's dealing with. But what do you think 314 00:16:04.360 --> 00:16:09.519 about Baldwin going forward? Because it was a fantastic year 315 00:16:09.720 --> 00:16:11.879 so far, to date before he went down. You know, 316 00:16:11.919 --> 00:16:14.519 you're looking at a three or three average with thirteen 317 00:16:14.559 --> 00:16:17.840 homers and thirty eight RBI out of a catcher. The 318 00:16:17.960 --> 00:16:19.919 reason he's number one the player raiders because of that 319 00:16:19.960 --> 00:16:25.679 catcher position player boost. But yeah, it's looked every bit 320 00:16:25.799 --> 00:16:27.879 of the All Star that we expected out of Baldwin, 321 00:16:27.960 --> 00:16:30.720 if not more. And so do you think you can 322 00:16:30.759 --> 00:16:32.759 he can get back to that level when he returns 323 00:16:32.799 --> 00:16:35.200 from this oblique strain. 324 00:16:35.279 --> 00:16:38.320 I think that he can. You know, he's not I 325 00:16:38.360 --> 00:16:40.399 don't want to say he's a super lea athletic guy. 326 00:16:40.440 --> 00:16:45.600 I mean he is, you know, but he really gets 327 00:16:45.639 --> 00:16:49.399 his power from a sprint swing path, the approach and 328 00:16:49.440 --> 00:16:54.639 the pitch selection. And you know, he wasn't taking out 329 00:16:54.639 --> 00:16:57.279 like the game immediately like something happened and it was 330 00:16:57.360 --> 00:16:59.519 so drastic that we're really going to kind of be 331 00:16:59.600 --> 00:17:02.080 watching for him to fully get back. So actually I 332 00:17:02.120 --> 00:17:03.879 was thinking more of the four four to five week 333 00:17:03.919 --> 00:17:05.799 time frame that I think he's going to be back. 334 00:17:05.880 --> 00:17:08.319 So I've got a pretty positive outlook. He's never really 335 00:17:08.359 --> 00:17:10.079 been a guy who's been banged up, and it's not 336 00:17:10.119 --> 00:17:11.920 like it's gonna be a thing he's been fighting. I 337 00:17:11.960 --> 00:17:15.720 don't believe he's really had oblique issues before, So I mean, 338 00:17:15.880 --> 00:17:18.279 I'm even a positive outlook. At the same time, that 339 00:17:18.440 --> 00:17:20.400 catch a position, which we just talked about last year 340 00:17:20.440 --> 00:17:22.640 being so deep with a lot of these guys coming up, 341 00:17:22.960 --> 00:17:23.799 it's kind. 342 00:17:23.599 --> 00:17:24.720 Of been a mess this year. 343 00:17:24.920 --> 00:17:28.200 It happened, and like your look at the top of 344 00:17:28.240 --> 00:17:31.079 this lifts and it's like Shay Lean Leers and Drake 345 00:17:31.119 --> 00:17:35.880 Baldwin and Dylan Dingler like like that. That's that's where 346 00:17:35.920 --> 00:17:40.240 the value is, your hope, like Liam Hicks is giving 347 00:17:40.279 --> 00:17:43.119 you a ton of value. Then you've got the you know, 348 00:17:43.200 --> 00:17:45.799 Hunter Goodman playing well. But then it's just kind of 349 00:17:45.799 --> 00:17:49.799 a big smattering of of guys. Another guy that did 350 00:17:49.880 --> 00:17:55.720 just get hurt announced earlier today and Ryan Jeffers Handmaid 351 00:17:55.799 --> 00:17:57.759 and so you know, we're probably spent much time there 352 00:17:57.799 --> 00:18:00.599 because he's gonna be gone for some time. But it 353 00:18:00.599 --> 00:18:04.000 has been a tough position, and Baldwin has has been. 354 00:18:04.039 --> 00:18:06.880 So incredible at it. He's he's carried. 355 00:18:06.599 --> 00:18:09.039 Some teams absolutely, and I will say this as an 356 00:18:09.039 --> 00:18:13.519 owner of a few spots, definitely has has been a 357 00:18:13.559 --> 00:18:15.799 boon to the position. So it's that's gonna be a 358 00:18:15.799 --> 00:18:19.559 harrange replace because as much as Catcher was deep going 359 00:18:19.599 --> 00:18:23.519 into the season, it really starts to mellow out after 360 00:18:23.599 --> 00:18:26.759 like the top fifteen, whereas in the draft season, I 361 00:18:26.799 --> 00:18:29.240 felt like you'd go down to like twenty twenty four 362 00:18:29.240 --> 00:18:32.519 to twenty five, and now you're getting pretty dicey. 363 00:18:33.119 --> 00:18:34.960 Yeah. Well, and I mean the next guy we're going 364 00:18:35.039 --> 00:18:38.119 to talk about is cal Rowley, who's got a much 365 00:18:38.160 --> 00:18:41.440 more minor oblique strain. It sounds like where it sounds 366 00:18:41.480 --> 00:18:43.599 more like when you're kind of reading the tea leaves, 367 00:18:43.960 --> 00:18:48.480 where like Baldwins is more shading on like a one 368 00:18:48.640 --> 00:18:53.559 to two grade strain while you're looking at a grade 369 00:18:53.640 --> 00:18:57.640 one strain. Pretty solidly for cal Rowley, because cal Rawley 370 00:18:57.720 --> 00:18:59.759 was playing through this for a little bit until they 371 00:18:59.799 --> 00:19:02.880 just like, man, you need to just take a break 372 00:19:02.920 --> 00:19:04.920 and not do this. And it's been a really rough 373 00:19:05.000 --> 00:19:07.799 year for Raleigh. One sixty one, two forty three, three 374 00:19:07.880 --> 00:19:11.839 seventeen slash line sixty three WRC plus before it went down, 375 00:19:12.400 --> 00:19:15.599 had hit seven homers and stolen two bases, But that 376 00:19:15.680 --> 00:19:19.640 one sixty one was really tearing you apart. And on 377 00:19:19.680 --> 00:19:23.720 top of it, though Baldwin Raleigh, you mentioned Ryan Jeffers 378 00:19:23.759 --> 00:19:25.960 going down, who I didn't put in the rundown just 379 00:19:25.960 --> 00:19:28.799 because we're kind of keeping a little more brief with 380 00:19:28.839 --> 00:19:31.920 you in your hotel situation. Another one went down this week, 381 00:19:32.000 --> 00:19:35.359 Francisco Alvarez went down with a torn meniscus. So it's 382 00:19:35.440 --> 00:19:38.839 really there is no depth of catcher anymore, that it's 383 00:19:38.880 --> 00:19:45.359 totally gotten into desperate times, desperate measures, where like in 384 00:19:45.440 --> 00:19:48.079 our audio league, I've been struggling that catcher ever since 385 00:19:48.119 --> 00:19:52.039 Alejandro Kirk went down, and like I was looking at 386 00:19:52.079 --> 00:19:55.559 Patrick Bailey this past week until like just that's how 387 00:19:55.640 --> 00:19:58.279 bad it's gotten. Where I'm using a Haesus Rodriguez and 388 00:19:58.759 --> 00:20:02.720 you know anybody who's playing in Arizona. But with Raley here, 389 00:20:03.240 --> 00:20:05.599 it has been a bit of a struggle. First time 390 00:20:05.640 --> 00:20:09.920 he's on the il for his career. Does seem like 391 00:20:09.960 --> 00:20:12.680 he was nursing this for a hot minute. You could 392 00:20:12.680 --> 00:20:15.319 see that in just the plate approach, where the walk 393 00:20:15.400 --> 00:20:18.599 rate had degraded just a shade under ten percent. At 394 00:20:18.640 --> 00:20:21.880 nine point nine, the strukeout right had increased to thirty 395 00:20:21.880 --> 00:20:23.880 one and a half percent. So what do you make 396 00:20:23.920 --> 00:20:26.720 of Cale Rowley going forward? Because it still was roughly 397 00:20:27.440 --> 00:20:30.680 a twenty eight homer pace, But like do you think 398 00:20:30.720 --> 00:20:33.039 he was still showing signs of being able to get 399 00:20:33.160 --> 00:20:36.079 back onto the saddle of being more of like a 400 00:20:36.119 --> 00:20:37.400 forty ish homer catcher. 401 00:20:38.720 --> 00:20:42.119