WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.480 --> 00:00:04.839 Enjoy these back to back classic Forbidden Knowledge news episodes, 2 00:00:09.720 --> 00:00:13.480 and tonight, I'd like to welcome esoteric and occult researcher 3 00:00:13.919 --> 00:00:17.480 and host of the Proud to Beef Profane podcast on 4 00:00:17.600 --> 00:00:21.760 the Schism two six YouTube channel, Michael Joseph. How you 5 00:00:21.760 --> 00:00:24.120 doing tonight, Michael great? 6 00:00:24.120 --> 00:00:25.399 How are you? Thanks for having me on. 7 00:00:26.199 --> 00:00:29.399 I am excellent. Thank you for coming on tonight, and 8 00:00:29.480 --> 00:00:32.679 you do an excellent job on your channel. I always wonder, 9 00:00:32.960 --> 00:00:37.200 you know, how the elites view their doctrine and their 10 00:00:37.200 --> 00:00:40.159 beliefs and how they impose it on us, and you 11 00:00:40.240 --> 00:00:43.479 do a great job of kind of dissecting all this information. 12 00:00:44.159 --> 00:00:46.359 But before we get into any of it, I'd like 13 00:00:46.399 --> 00:00:48.359 to get a little bit about your background and what 14 00:00:48.479 --> 00:00:49.719 got you started doing this. 15 00:00:51.320 --> 00:00:55.640 Sure, I'll try to keep it the short version, but basically, 16 00:00:58.240 --> 00:01:01.039 I guess around the time of the Boss and bombing, 17 00:01:01.840 --> 00:01:04.680 that's when I kind of woke up to some of 18 00:01:04.719 --> 00:01:10.040 these suspicious things about around the media events, especially the 19 00:01:10.040 --> 00:01:14.560 big ones like that nine to eleven whatever. And you know, 20 00:01:14.760 --> 00:01:18.079 throughout my life, I'd always had kind of suspicions about 21 00:01:18.760 --> 00:01:22.840 lots of things, you know, social engineering and people in 22 00:01:23.040 --> 00:01:26.000 power doing nefarious things and it's it's not that I 23 00:01:26.040 --> 00:01:29.959 have a problem with people in power or aristocracy per se. 24 00:01:30.079 --> 00:01:33.719 It's just the morals behind those people. That's more what 25 00:01:33.799 --> 00:01:36.319 I have a problem with, if they're not following any 26 00:01:36.359 --> 00:01:39.760 at all or a particular set for them and imposing 27 00:01:39.760 --> 00:01:44.000 other things on other people. So, you know, it wasn't 28 00:01:44.040 --> 00:01:47.159 really like it wasn't really like a shock for me, 29 00:01:48.239 --> 00:01:52.040 like it broke my world down and I had this 30 00:01:52.159 --> 00:01:55.200 cognitive dissonance. It was almost like more like, oh wow, 31 00:01:55.239 --> 00:02:01.239 this makes a lot more sense. It's like, so what 32 00:02:01.359 --> 00:02:07.519 ended up happening was then I came across somebody who 33 00:02:07.599 --> 00:02:09.719 I considered a good friend. Now I was in a 34 00:02:09.719 --> 00:02:11.840 band at the time, and he ran our practice space 35 00:02:11.919 --> 00:02:14.680 and uh, my drum and I went up there because 36 00:02:14.719 --> 00:02:17.680 of a snare drum problem and he's good at fixing things, 37 00:02:17.680 --> 00:02:20.039 and it ended up being like this two hour conversation 38 00:02:20.080 --> 00:02:23.159 about the new or order that he, uh he gave us. 39 00:02:24.639 --> 00:02:27.039 I was a little less terrified about it than our 40 00:02:27.120 --> 00:02:31.199 drummer was. But uh so from then on it was 41 00:02:31.240 --> 00:02:34.199 just like, huh, that's just something I never really heard about. Uh, 42 00:02:34.680 --> 00:02:38.439 but it was interesting. And then, as tends to happen, 43 00:02:38.680 --> 00:02:42.280 you know, things you start noticing things or you you 44 00:02:42.400 --> 00:02:45.000 sort of seek things out, but things also kind of 45 00:02:45.000 --> 00:02:48.759 happen organically, you know. And then I started stumbling across 46 00:02:50.439 --> 00:02:54.240 some different researchers, like Mark Passio was one of the 47 00:02:54.240 --> 00:02:59.719 original ones, where we talked about occult aspects to nine 48 00:02:59.759 --> 00:03:03.879 elevee of It and just in general. And you know, 49 00:03:03.879 --> 00:03:07.159 I'm the kind of person that I I listen to 50 00:03:07.199 --> 00:03:09.120 a lot of different viewpoints. I don't necessarily agree with 51 00:03:09.159 --> 00:03:11.960 them all or maybe at the time I'm open to it, 52 00:03:12.000 --> 00:03:14.439 and then later down the road, I change my mind 53 00:03:14.479 --> 00:03:17.039 on certain things. But that was one of the people 54 00:03:17.599 --> 00:03:20.319 I watched the whole What on Earth is Happening in 55 00:03:20.400 --> 00:03:22.599 like just a few nights. Like, I'm the kind of 56 00:03:22.599 --> 00:03:24.759 person that when I get into something, I really absorb 57 00:03:24.800 --> 00:03:27.000 a lot and I just kind of get a little 58 00:03:27.000 --> 00:03:29.120 obsessive about it. And at that time, I was working 59 00:03:29.120 --> 00:03:32.240 really hard to pursue music and kind of had a 60 00:03:32.280 --> 00:03:37.560 delusional dream about being a professional musician that you know, 61 00:03:37.639 --> 00:03:40.879 in hindsight, you don't realize your delusion until you actually 62 00:03:41.919 --> 00:03:43.319 kind of pull yourself out of it. 63 00:03:43.560 --> 00:03:45.960 Hey, I've been there. I had that same delusion for 64 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:46.319 a while. 65 00:03:46.360 --> 00:03:49.400 My friend, Yeah, yeah, you know, and I, you know, 66 00:03:49.520 --> 00:03:52.439 I still do think. I mean, my YouTube channel originally 67 00:03:52.479 --> 00:03:55.800 before all this stuff was just me playing guitar videos 68 00:03:55.800 --> 00:04:00.840 like ten years ago or something like that. So so basically, 69 00:04:01.199 --> 00:04:04.560 you absorb a lot from what you see on YouTube 70 00:04:04.599 --> 00:04:07.000 where people are saying this and that, and you're not 71 00:04:07.039 --> 00:04:09.639 really doing a whole lot of research on your own. 72 00:04:10.360 --> 00:04:13.520 And then it came time where, you know, you start 73 00:04:13.599 --> 00:04:16.079 asking some serious questions about what you're being given in 74 00:04:16.120 --> 00:04:20.279 the alternative or truther or media world. And I started 75 00:04:20.279 --> 00:04:25.199 to kind of like, you know, fact checked, I guess, 76 00:04:25.240 --> 00:04:28.480 like some of the claims. And that's when I started 77 00:04:28.519 --> 00:04:30.240 reading a lot of this stuff. You know, I kind 78 00:04:30.279 --> 00:04:34.199 of absorbed, I guess, the more esoteric world view where 79 00:04:34.199 --> 00:04:36.959 it's like there's a cult knowledge it's not good or bad, 80 00:04:37.040 --> 00:04:38.680 but the people wi in control just use it the 81 00:04:38.720 --> 00:04:41.519 bad way. And then I sort of absorbed the more 82 00:04:41.600 --> 00:04:45.800 like Protestant Christian vibe on the conspiracy world, you know, 83 00:04:46.360 --> 00:04:48.800 Biblical prophecy, Book of Revelation, all that kind of stuff. 84 00:04:49.800 --> 00:04:51.879 And so to me, these are like what I now 85 00:04:51.920 --> 00:04:55.879 consider to be kind of like these two pillars of 86 00:04:55.959 --> 00:04:57.920 a I kind of viewed as like a dialectic I 87 00:04:58.000 --> 00:05:00.000 almost feel it like left and right politics. It's just 88 00:05:00.079 --> 00:05:03.079 on a different plane. That's where I'm at with it now. 89 00:05:03.120 --> 00:05:06.480 It took me a long time to realize that, and 90 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:09.079 that's just my own personal perception on it all. But 91 00:05:09.199 --> 00:05:12.519 either way, I would be looking at both sides and 92 00:05:12.560 --> 00:05:17.439 seeing what they're promoting, as you know, who's the bad 93 00:05:17.480 --> 00:05:19.560 guys or what's bad? How does the evil work? And 94 00:05:19.600 --> 00:05:23.879 then what's the solution, what's the good thing? And I 95 00:05:23.920 --> 00:05:29.319 found some things that were pretty interesting that they tended 96 00:05:29.360 --> 00:05:31.879 to agree on without even really knowing it, and then 97 00:05:31.920 --> 00:05:34.519 some things that they would kind of bash each other on, 98 00:05:34.639 --> 00:05:38.160 but they kind of misunderstood other aspects of their viewpoints, 99 00:05:38.160 --> 00:05:40.040 and so it's kind of like both sides kind of 100 00:05:40.079 --> 00:05:42.079 slandering each other for things that I didn't really think 101 00:05:42.120 --> 00:05:44.519 they deserve. But at the same time, I sympathized with 102 00:05:44.560 --> 00:05:47.879 both sides on certain aspects, and so I kind of caught. 103 00:05:47.959 --> 00:05:50.920 I was caught in that middle ground between those two pillars, 104 00:05:51.120 --> 00:05:54.720 and the work that I've done recently is sort of 105 00:05:54.720 --> 00:05:57.839 been unifying them and looking at the the battle of 106 00:05:57.920 --> 00:06:00.839 Western civilization with like the old world order in the 107 00:06:00.879 --> 00:06:03.240 Catholic Empire versus like the new world order, which I 108 00:06:03.240 --> 00:06:06.399 think is more in line with like temudic Judaism, with 109 00:06:06.439 --> 00:06:12.199 a lot of these esoteric, I guess occult viewpoints as 110 00:06:12.279 --> 00:06:17.040 it's it's religion for the gentiles in a way. So 111 00:06:17.120 --> 00:06:18.360 that's kind of where I'm at with it all. 112 00:06:18.360 --> 00:06:22.920 Now, very good, Now, would you agree based on your 113 00:06:22.959 --> 00:06:27.279 research that you know, these elites and the powers in 114 00:06:27.360 --> 00:06:31.560 control have used this their belief and their religion to 115 00:06:31.720 --> 00:06:34.800 sort of steer humanity in which direction they want them 116 00:06:34.839 --> 00:06:37.800 to go, whether it be in the ancient times with 117 00:06:37.959 --> 00:06:42.480 religion and eventually with politics, and now they have media 118 00:06:43.000 --> 00:06:46.040 and you know they're not hiding it much nowadays. But 119 00:06:46.480 --> 00:06:47.959 you know, give us your thoughts on that. 120 00:06:49.240 --> 00:06:55.040 Yeah, it's a complicated issue because really that's what I 121 00:06:55.120 --> 00:07:01.720 kind of realized, is that religion drives our world and 122 00:07:01.759 --> 00:07:07.480 it depends on which view point is more prompt. Sort 123 00:07:07.480 --> 00:07:12.160 of like this these scales where you know, after Constantine 124 00:07:12.680 --> 00:07:17.079 allows Christianity and with the Edict Mulan in three thirteen, 125 00:07:18.240 --> 00:07:21.680 that's where the the Catholic scales are are, you know, 126 00:07:21.759 --> 00:07:24.600 weighing down, and that's the first thousand years of Christianity 127 00:07:24.680 --> 00:07:27.600 and the you know, European Christendom and then around the 128 00:07:27.639 --> 00:07:30.079 times of the French Revolution of the American Revolution. Things 129 00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:33.560 are kind of at that equilibrium point there's both power 130 00:07:33.600 --> 00:07:35.639 on both sides, and then the New World Order starts 131 00:07:36.120 --> 00:07:38.079 weighing down the other side from then on out, and 132 00:07:38.120 --> 00:07:42.040 now I think we're in the the kind of the 133 00:07:42.959 --> 00:07:47.720 really heavy influence of it. And so with the esoteric 134 00:07:47.759 --> 00:07:53.199 aspects and religion, I think that it's sort of like 135 00:07:53.360 --> 00:08:00.680 a an esoteric exoteric thing. But but I think that 136 00:08:00.680 --> 00:08:04.360 that's actually applied to things like Freemasonry and theosophy and 137 00:08:04.360 --> 00:08:08.079 stuff like that, where they claim they have the esoteric knowledge, 138 00:08:08.079 --> 00:08:10.639 but I actually think that they're just what I call 139 00:08:10.680 --> 00:08:15.879 a gollum of more like Talmudic Jewish kabbala at the top. 140 00:08:15.959 --> 00:08:19.079 And so when you talk about like utilizing these things 141 00:08:19.160 --> 00:08:21.720 and things coming out of Hollywood and stuff like that, 142 00:08:23.279 --> 00:08:25.079 I think that this is sort of part of these 143 00:08:25.120 --> 00:08:32.799 sort of cabalistic end Times prophecies where they're indoctrinating people 144 00:08:32.840 --> 00:08:38.600 into this religion that is it's sort of like, in 145 00:08:38.639 --> 00:08:43.559 a way it mirrors the idea of Christianity, whatever you 146 00:08:43.600 --> 00:08:47.720 think about it. You know, Christ's death opening things up 147 00:08:47.759 --> 00:08:51.120 for the Gentiles, and now it's almost like a reversal 148 00:08:51.120 --> 00:08:55.159 of that, where it's the Talmudic Christ or Anointed opening 149 00:08:55.240 --> 00:08:58.120 up their secret doctrines for the rest of the world. 150 00:08:58.799 --> 00:09:04.639 And it's pretty interesting that there's this association called Universal 151 00:09:04.799 --> 00:09:08.600 Kabbala through benign Baruk and if you read some of 152 00:09:08.639 --> 00:09:12.879 their End Times prophecy stuff on their version, this is like, 153 00:09:12.919 --> 00:09:14.720 you know, they're trying to give a universal Cabala to 154 00:09:14.759 --> 00:09:18.320 the world. They're talking about the the evil forces of 155 00:09:18.440 --> 00:09:20.919 Rome and the Roman Catholic Church and stuff like that 156 00:09:21.879 --> 00:09:27.440 uniting against basically Israel, and this kind of epic that 157 00:09:27.480 --> 00:09:29.519 it's believe wild if you read it, and it's sort 158 00:09:29.559 --> 00:09:33.720 of I don't know, it's it's kind of like I 159 00:09:33.759 --> 00:09:35.559 think that that's like the Hidden Battle. And so a 160 00:09:35.600 --> 00:09:38.279 lot of this stuff that comes out of Hollywood, you know, 161 00:09:38.320 --> 00:09:42.679 it's it's promoting gnocissism, occultism, stuff like that. And if 162 00:09:42.679 --> 00:09:48.039 you look into history, you'll find that these reactions of 163 00:09:49.120 --> 00:09:51.919 a lot of these Jewish sects. Again, I'm kind of 164 00:09:51.960 --> 00:09:54.639 using a broad scope here. There's always distinctions and different 165 00:09:54.720 --> 00:10:00.440 variations in between, but we're involved in creating gnosticism and 166 00:10:00.919 --> 00:10:05.039 Freemasonry in its more primitive forms. And if you read 167 00:10:05.080 --> 00:10:07.919 certain books what I try to do also is I 168 00:10:07.960 --> 00:10:10.799 try to go into the occult textbooks, people like Albert Pike, 169 00:10:10.799 --> 00:10:13.720 Madam Blavatski, stuff like that. I try to go into 170 00:10:16.159 --> 00:10:20.799 university history on the topics, which tends to get very expensive. 171 00:10:22.759 --> 00:10:25.000 And so the reason I mentioned that is a brill 172 00:10:25.080 --> 00:10:31.639 book called I Think It's Gnostica Judaica Catholica, super expensive book. 173 00:10:31.679 --> 00:10:34.080 I was able to get a copy. But you start 174 00:10:34.080 --> 00:10:36.200 reading through this and you start realizing that some of 175 00:10:36.200 --> 00:10:40.440 these ideas of narcissism, like Sofia and yalde bayots and 176 00:10:40.519 --> 00:10:47.120 this this Sofia is this principle of wisdom, and it's 177 00:10:47.200 --> 00:10:51.720 in exile and persecuted by the quote unquote demiurge, and 178 00:10:51.759 --> 00:10:54.639 you start to realize that this is actually the formulation 179 00:10:55.240 --> 00:11:02.320 of the Jewish reaction to their power being lost and 180 00:11:02.399 --> 00:11:04.960 dispersed in the destruction of the Temple and stuff like that. 181 00:11:04.960 --> 00:11:09.039 That the book basically posit that that's the best presupposition 182 00:11:09.080 --> 00:11:10.840 for understanding that myth. And so you see a lot 183 00:11:10.879 --> 00:11:13.759 of those gnostic things coming out of Hollywood and stuff 184 00:11:13.840 --> 00:11:17.000 like that. So it's pretty interesting. And then you know, 185 00:11:17.559 --> 00:11:19.360 for better or for worse, in the truth of the world, 186 00:11:19.399 --> 00:11:21.840 there's a lot of nacissism going around, but I'm my 187 00:11:21.919 --> 00:11:25.519 personal opinion on it is that it's kind of a deception. 188 00:11:25.679 --> 00:11:27.919 But that's just me and my whole series. My new 189 00:11:27.960 --> 00:11:30.559 series goes into all the reasons why I can't really 190 00:11:30.600 --> 00:11:31.960 get into them all here because it would be a 191 00:11:32.039 --> 00:11:36.480 very long show, right now, That's the reason why a 192 00:11:36.480 --> 00:11:39.320 lot of it's coming out. That's just personal observation. 193 00:11:40.080 --> 00:11:44.720 Right And you had mentioned kind of bringing forth an 194 00:11:44.799 --> 00:11:49.480 in time scenario. I notice a lot of Hollywood and 195 00:11:49.720 --> 00:11:53.559 TV shows have that in time scenario, you know, a 196 00:11:53.559 --> 00:11:56.840 lot more than usual. Are they trying to kind of 197 00:11:56.879 --> 00:12:00.320 bring forth some sort of scenario like that kind of 198 00:12:00.360 --> 00:12:01.120 in times? 199 00:12:02.799 --> 00:12:05.440 Well, I think that you have to understand the difference 200 00:12:05.480 --> 00:12:08.639 between the Catholic version of the Book of Revelation and 201 00:12:08.679 --> 00:12:12.440 the Protestant one. Generally speaking, again, Protestantism tends to encompass 202 00:12:12.480 --> 00:12:16.120 a very wide variety of things, but there's sort of 203 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:20.399 like this Christian Zionism built around Protestantism, especially like the 204 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:22.360 the Megachurches are the ones that you're going to find 205 00:12:22.399 --> 00:12:26.399 more in the mainstream. And you know, from the Catholic standpoint, 206 00:12:26.840 --> 00:12:30.960 Revelation was the persecution of the Christians after Christ until 207 00:12:31.919 --> 00:12:36.120 you know, the Christianity gets established as a religion by Constantine. 208 00:12:36.519 --> 00:12:39.320 And so that's why Nero is sixty sixty six through 209 00:12:39.320 --> 00:12:43.639 Gamatria and then some manuscripts I believe have six sixteen, 210 00:12:44.159 --> 00:12:48.000 which ends up being the Latin version of Gamatria for 211 00:12:48.159 --> 00:12:51.759 his name. So it's pretty interesting that the Catholic viewpoint 212 00:12:51.919 --> 00:12:55.480 unders has a reason for the six sixteen and then 213 00:12:55.600 --> 00:12:59.840 that you know, at that time Rome was the be 214 00:13:00.240 --> 00:13:02.919 that hadn't become Catholic yet, and so that's the whole 215 00:13:02.960 --> 00:13:05.919 point about you know, the city's seven hills, and you 216 00:13:05.919 --> 00:13:09.879 know all these sorts of things, and then that's their 217 00:13:10.000 --> 00:13:12.080 understanding of the book or revelation. And it's not that 218 00:13:12.159 --> 00:13:17.240 it can't have some parallels to today, but those things, 219 00:13:17.440 --> 00:13:20.200 those events have like already happened in that context, whereas 220 00:13:20.840 --> 00:13:24.440 Protestantism tends to view these things as things to come, 221 00:13:24.759 --> 00:13:27.759 and a lot of it will center around Israel as 222 00:13:27.879 --> 00:13:33.399 being the where these things are fulfilled. So the difference 223 00:13:33.480 --> 00:13:37.440 is and Catholicism that that the Catholic Church is the 224 00:13:37.480 --> 00:13:42.039 new Israel. There's no other Israel out there, whereas Zionism 225 00:13:43.039 --> 00:13:47.000 that's a different Israel. And that's what's the main difference. 226 00:13:47.000 --> 00:13:51.639 And obviously Catholicism today is very different. There's a lot 227 00:13:51.639 --> 00:13:56.240 of the tactics of infiltration and stuff like that. I 228 00:13:56.320 --> 00:14:01.279 played a heavy hand in this, and so a lot 229 00:14:01.279 --> 00:14:03.720 of this is this was my problem. I actually didn't 230 00:14:03.720 --> 00:14:08.159 really understand that the history of the Church very well 231 00:14:08.200 --> 00:14:11.320 at all. And there's a reason for that, I think. 232 00:14:11.440 --> 00:14:14.679 And you know, this is a lot of traditional Catholic 233 00:14:14.720 --> 00:14:16.559 stuff that I'm just kind of coming across now. So 234 00:14:16.639 --> 00:14:18.919 I'm not an expert on it all, but somebody like E. 235 00:14:19.000 --> 00:14:21.480 Michael Jones is well versed in these sorts of things. 236 00:14:21.559 --> 00:14:25.919 But so it depends on what you mean by end times, 237 00:14:25.919 --> 00:14:28.480 because it means different things to different people. And so 238 00:14:28.840 --> 00:14:33.200 the Kabbala Zohar will have its own version of end times, 239 00:14:33.960 --> 00:14:38.360 and then the Protestant type Christianity will have its own version. 240 00:14:38.360 --> 00:14:42.759 Which it's almost like now on YouTube, anybody can interpret 241 00:14:42.799 --> 00:14:45.120 revelation and make a video and get a bunch of 242 00:14:45.120 --> 00:14:47.000 followers on it, you know what I mean. And so, 243 00:14:47.799 --> 00:14:53.200 but generally speaking, it seems to me that the Christian 244 00:14:53.279 --> 00:14:59.440 Zionism version of it only only really helps out. I 245 00:14:59.440 --> 00:15:04.399 guess the the Talmudic viewpoint and what I mean by Talmudic. 246 00:15:05.200 --> 00:15:07.320 There's some interesting books that people might want to check out. 247 00:15:07.960 --> 00:15:09.720 Jesus in the Town Moud, but I think it is 248 00:15:09.720 --> 00:15:12.960 Peter Schaeffer that's a really revelatory book that's more of 249 00:15:12.960 --> 00:15:18.320 like an academic book. And then Michael Hoffman's Judaism Strange Gods, 250 00:15:18.320 --> 00:15:20.840 which is more of a conspiratorial one and a little 251 00:15:20.879 --> 00:15:26.960 bit more overtly like a Christian slant to the narrative, 252 00:15:27.919 --> 00:15:31.000 but it really exposes a lot of strange things that 253 00:15:31.039 --> 00:15:35.840 you'll find in the Talmud that really go hand in 254 00:15:35.879 --> 00:15:38.559 hand with a lot of stuff that you see today. 255 00:15:38.799 --> 00:15:42.440 And then you couple that with like more conspiratorial documents, 256 00:15:42.559 --> 00:15:44.360 whether you believe them to be true or not, like 257 00:15:44.399 --> 00:15:46.159 the protocols de Zion and stuff like that, and you know, 258 00:15:46.159 --> 00:15:49.399 there's a lot of things that kind of synchronize pretty 259 00:15:49.399 --> 00:15:52.240 well together, and so it's really up to your own 260 00:15:52.279 --> 00:15:54.600 interpretation on it. But as far as I understand it, 261 00:15:54.720 --> 00:15:59.080 those are kind of like the competing ones as best 262 00:15:59.080 --> 00:16:01.399 as I can explain, you know, like I said, as 263 00:16:01.399 --> 00:16:04.279 I come across new information, it tweaks how I view 264 00:16:04.320 --> 00:16:06.279 things and stuff. So that's where I'm at with it. 265 00:16:06.240 --> 00:16:13.960 Now right now. Earlier you had mentioned being esoteric or exoteric, 266 00:16:14.480 --> 00:16:17.000 and the name of your your podcast is proud to 267 00:16:17.039 --> 00:16:20.559 be profane kind of, you know, for for those who 268 00:16:20.559 --> 00:16:24.720 may not know what's the difference between esoteric and exoteric 269 00:16:25.120 --> 00:16:26.879 and what it is to be profane? 270 00:16:28.320 --> 00:16:32.279 Well generally speaking in like I don't know theosophy or freemasonry. 271 00:16:34.000 --> 00:16:37.679 You know, the profane or the ignorant. Uh, they're ignorant 272 00:16:37.799 --> 00:16:41.559 of the secret doctrine or you know, their understanding of 273 00:16:41.639 --> 00:16:45.200 reality which they believe to be the truth. And so 274 00:16:45.759 --> 00:16:48.320 most of that is tied from those viewpoints to the 275 00:16:48.360 --> 00:16:55.919 idea of an impersonal deity that is the Uh it's 276 00:16:55.960 --> 00:17:04.559 outside of creation. Uh, but it's all so impersonal to creation, 277 00:17:04.680 --> 00:17:08.440 and it's just sort of this mean oneness or principle. 278 00:17:08.519 --> 00:17:12.519 It's the ein Sofa Kabbala parabrama of Hinduism. There's different 279 00:17:12.640 --> 00:17:15.200 names for it, but this is like in Kabala, there's 280 00:17:15.240 --> 00:17:17.440 like a tree of life, which is like the visible 281 00:17:17.480 --> 00:17:22.279 world in the universe at the top, and then outside 282 00:17:22.319 --> 00:17:26.440 of that is the I'm sofain' and so are, which 283 00:17:26.480 --> 00:17:32.559 is the spirit of that deity. So theosophy, for example, 284 00:17:32.599 --> 00:17:35.400 Madame Blobaskie will talk how this relates to the Hindu 285 00:17:35.720 --> 00:17:39.240 understanding of the impersonal God. And then there's all these emanations, 286 00:17:39.240 --> 00:17:43.880 and it's all of these deities are just allegories for 287 00:17:44.000 --> 00:17:47.359 principles of nature and stuff like that, and then there's 288 00:17:47.359 --> 00:17:50.240 like a hierarchy or a chain of these principles, and 289 00:17:50.319 --> 00:17:53.359 part of that associated with like ritual magic, is like 290 00:17:53.400 --> 00:17:55.680 tapping into these principles and stuff like that. So this 291 00:17:55.720 --> 00:17:58.599 is why I like the Gnostic system of aeons and 292 00:17:58.599 --> 00:18:03.319 stuff like that kind of correspond with this, and and Hinduism, 293 00:18:04.200 --> 00:18:08.519 according to her version of it, again, they they tend 294 00:18:08.559 --> 00:18:13.559 to co opt things and make things unify, but there 295 00:18:13.599 --> 00:18:16.960 are distinctions and other viewpoints that they tend to leave 296 00:18:16.960 --> 00:18:20.079 out that are kind of important, and so that that's 297 00:18:20.160 --> 00:18:23.079 kind of like the biggest thing versus what's profane is 298 00:18:23.119 --> 00:18:26.160 like belief in a personal deity. And what's pretty interesting 299 00:18:26.240 --> 00:18:30.839 is that usually there's Pagan concepts to that. So for example, 300 00:18:32.519 --> 00:18:39.400 the God of you know, Catholic Christianity it is seen 301 00:18:39.480 --> 00:18:44.559 to be a personal beauty, and Eastern Orthodox too, people 302 00:18:44.559 --> 00:18:46.759 like Jay Dyer do lots of debates around this. 303 00:18:48.039 --> 00:18:52.400 And uh at Jay on the other night, Oh, yeah, yeah. 304 00:18:52.160 --> 00:18:54.720 Yeah, he's he's very good with like these debating these 305 00:18:55.119 --> 00:18:57.960 philosophical aspects of it. I'm not so much as good 306 00:18:57.960 --> 00:19:01.000 with like the hardcore philosophy. I like to kind of 307 00:19:01.079 --> 00:19:05.200 I'm more of applying it to the social situations engineering 308 00:19:05.359 --> 00:19:09.759 in history. But either way, the personal deity is what 309 00:19:09.960 --> 00:19:15.559 is profane, and so that is sort of my kind 310 00:19:15.599 --> 00:19:18.240 of joke on the podcast, Proud to be profane, because 311 00:19:18.279 --> 00:19:22.079 I don't really I don't accept the the theosophy or 312 00:19:22.119 --> 00:19:24.960 Freemasonry as the truth. I think there's things within it 313 00:19:24.960 --> 00:19:31.039 that have, you know, some things that are true or 314 00:19:31.079 --> 00:19:34.920 profound or insightful, but as a whole system, I certainly 315 00:19:34.920 --> 00:19:37.400 don't accept it. And a lot of that had to 316 00:19:37.440 --> 00:19:41.319 do with my personal delving into the readings and philosophies, 317 00:19:41.319 --> 00:19:43.240 where at one time I was very open to it all, 318 00:19:43.279 --> 00:19:46.079 you know, and so that's part of it. But then 319 00:19:46.119 --> 00:19:50.240 also any religion that is tied to that, and you know, 320 00:19:50.400 --> 00:19:56.839 especially Christianity in particular, So if you want to talk 321 00:19:56.839 --> 00:20:00.480 about the satan or the adversary of a cult, it 322 00:20:00.519 --> 00:20:05.000 would essentially be like you know, the Catholic Church and 323 00:20:05.640 --> 00:20:09.759 the Christian Empire. And so this gets into the strange 324 00:20:10.119 --> 00:20:15.119 breakdown through the Protestant Reformation and then leading up to 325 00:20:15.160 --> 00:20:19.359 the Enlightenment and then leading up to like you know, 326 00:20:19.440 --> 00:20:23.279 the New World and the American Anglo American Empire and 327 00:20:24.480 --> 00:20:27.319 you know, basically all of those kind of deistic Enlightenment 328 00:20:27.359 --> 00:20:33.440 principles that the country was founded upon. And so you'll 329 00:20:33.440 --> 00:20:36.640 see it's kind of interesting like the Prizestant reformations in 330 00:20:36.680 --> 00:20:40.079 fifteen seventeen I believe, then two hundred years later, almost 331 00:20:40.079 --> 00:20:42.880 like right on the mark, that's when Freemasonry officially starts 332 00:20:42.920 --> 00:20:46.599 seventeen seventeen, and then two hundred years later that's when 333 00:20:46.640 --> 00:20:50.920 you have the Bolshevik Revolution in nineteen seventeen. And so 334 00:20:51.000 --> 00:20:56.440 it's almost like the breakdown has been like the Protestantism 335 00:20:56.720 --> 00:21:01.240 was the first phase, and then the Masonic deistic Enlightenment 336 00:21:01.279 --> 00:21:05.000 principles and then the Jewish Revolution through the Bolsheviks and 337 00:21:05.000 --> 00:21:07.359 stuff like that. So that's kind of like the the 338 00:21:07.519 --> 00:21:10.920 reversal in a way, or the scales you know, changing, 339 00:21:11.960 --> 00:21:15.000 So that that's how I understand it. And the profane, 340 00:21:15.319 --> 00:21:18.039 like I said, there's buzz terms for it, I actually 341 00:21:18.039 --> 00:21:21.839 actually like it. There you go, This is from a 342 00:21:21.920 --> 00:21:24.440 video i'ven't had it out. This is the devil card 343 00:21:24.480 --> 00:21:28.839 in Taro. So this is an hieroglyph for ignorance, darkness, superstition, 344 00:21:28.960 --> 00:21:31.799 stuff like that. And all of these are Enlightenment buzzwords 345 00:21:31.839 --> 00:21:35.720 to describe the first thousand years of Christianity, or the 346 00:21:35.759 --> 00:21:38.240 Middle Ages, or the quote unquote Dark Ages as they 347 00:21:38.240 --> 00:21:41.200 call them. But what's also very interesting about that time, 348 00:21:41.559 --> 00:21:44.400 at least the first thousand years, is that you know, 349 00:21:45.079 --> 00:21:47.680 there were usury laws, it was prohibited, there was no 350 00:21:48.359 --> 00:21:53.440 fractional reserve banking, and the Jewish power and oligarchy was 351 00:21:54.119 --> 00:21:57.279 kept in check. And that was the teaching of Catholicism. 352 00:21:57.640 --> 00:22:00.359 And so how interested, how interesting sink is it that 353 00:22:00.440 --> 00:22:04.200 we call that the Dark Ages now and the Enlightenment 354 00:22:04.559 --> 00:22:08.839 illuminates or enlightens those dark Ages. And this is really 355 00:22:08.880 --> 00:22:11.279 about the French Revolution and all of these sort of 356 00:22:11.359 --> 00:22:14.559 things that were going on there, which are documented by A. 357 00:22:14.640 --> 00:22:17.680 Gutsin Barwell and memoirs of Jacobinism. Where you start you 358 00:22:17.720 --> 00:22:21.519 start reading the letters from certain people like Voltaire, Frederic 359 00:22:21.599 --> 00:22:24.160 the Great and all of those people, and they admit 360 00:22:24.279 --> 00:22:26.599 openly in their letters to each other that they're following 361 00:22:26.599 --> 00:22:30.160 the mysteries of Mithras they're going to illuminate the masses 362 00:22:30.160 --> 00:22:33.880 by degrees. They're in line with the spirit of Julie 363 00:22:33.880 --> 00:22:37.680 and the Apostate. They actually are creating the Encyclopedia as 364 00:22:37.680 --> 00:22:41.319 a propaganda tool to start changing definitions over time, to 365 00:22:42.200 --> 00:22:48.240 install philosophy and basically destroy Catholic France through the revolution. 366 00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:52.960 And you know, then those ideas spread out and then 367 00:22:53.000 --> 00:22:57.559 the Jacobins take over and they're like the crazy Antifa 368 00:22:57.680 --> 00:23:00.440 back then, and people start getting beheaded and all this 369 00:23:00.559 --> 00:23:04.119 bad shit goes down. So that's an incredible book to 370 00:23:04.200 --> 00:23:08.839 document a lot of this, And I guess I'll shut 371 00:23:08.920 --> 00:23:10.519 up for a bit because it's it's easy to. 372 00:23:10.799 --> 00:23:14.960 No, that's that's fascinating. What types of it seems like 373 00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:18.759 a mixed max of religions that the elites are using, 374 00:23:18.880 --> 00:23:21.640 just bits and pieces of different types of beliefs and 375 00:23:21.680 --> 00:23:26.200 religions in an ancient doctrine. Is that, you know accurate? 376 00:23:26.960 --> 00:23:29.319 Yeah, I think what it really comes down to if 377 00:23:29.359 --> 00:23:32.920 you view it at least from the narrative of European 378 00:23:33.000 --> 00:23:36.319 history and you know, kind of like a Catholic Jewish 379 00:23:36.400 --> 00:23:42.200 power struggle, there's a certain amount of pragmatism to it, 380 00:23:43.440 --> 00:23:46.599 and there's one concept. It's called the gollumn, which is 381 00:23:46.599 --> 00:23:51.000 basically taking dead matter. And if you view the profane 382 00:23:51.119 --> 00:23:55.400 as dead matter, then they could essentially become a gallum. 383 00:23:55.440 --> 00:24:00.759 And so what a gollum is is putting little spark 384 00:24:01.160 --> 00:24:07.079 of the rabbinical wisdom into dead matter, and then this 385 00:24:07.160 --> 00:24:13.279 gollum can avenge the Jewish people from its persecution, its enemies, 386 00:24:13.440 --> 00:24:18.039 or anti Semitism. And so what's interesting is you'll find 387 00:24:18.200 --> 00:24:23.799 echoes of some of these talmut ideas in Freemasonry, in narcissism, 388 00:24:24.200 --> 00:24:28.839 in theosophy, stuff like that. And so, for example, Madame 389 00:24:28.920 --> 00:24:33.759 Lavatski straight up says that the true Freemasons, or she 390 00:24:33.839 --> 00:24:37.079 calls them the true Templars, they follow the doctrines of 391 00:24:37.119 --> 00:24:42.720 the Talmud as Jesus being Jesus ben Pantera, the son 392 00:24:42.759 --> 00:24:46.079 of a Roman soldier. That's the story from the Talmud. 393 00:24:46.559 --> 00:24:51.599 But they don't view it as they're kind of missing 394 00:24:51.640 --> 00:24:58.920 a component where the Talmud is very polemical to Christ, 395 00:24:59.000 --> 00:25:01.359 or they call Jesus the Nazarene and stuff like that. 396 00:25:01.400 --> 00:25:03.119 And that's why Jesus and the Talmud. If you read 397 00:25:03.160 --> 00:25:05.599 that book, it outlines as clearly. And now there's a 398 00:25:05.640 --> 00:25:07.880 lot of excuses that are given and saying, well, that's 399 00:25:07.960 --> 00:25:12.799 not the Jesus of the Gospels. But the guy who 400 00:25:12.839 --> 00:25:14.680 wrote that book says, the onus is on them to 401 00:25:14.759 --> 00:25:16.839 prove that. And basically that's sort of like a way 402 00:25:16.880 --> 00:25:20.160 of getting around it. And so what's really interesting about 403 00:25:20.200 --> 00:25:25.240 it is this is confirmed in the gospels too, whether 404 00:25:25.279 --> 00:25:28.680 you believe them, whatever you believe about Christ or Christianity, 405 00:25:28.720 --> 00:25:33.319 I'm just talking about the battles here going on. The 406 00:25:33.319 --> 00:25:37.960 Pharisees view Jesus as a demon. Basically, they think he's 407 00:25:38.039 --> 00:25:40.440 like a heretic, or he's of the nations, he's of 408 00:25:40.480 --> 00:25:43.680 the gentiles. They think he's pagan essentially, or he's got 409 00:25:43.960 --> 00:25:46.759 a pagan demon attached to him. And so this is 410 00:25:46.799 --> 00:25:49.200 the battle. And so what's interesting in the Talmud, you'll 411 00:25:49.240 --> 00:25:53.680 find that same thing where he's a heretic, and Mary 412 00:25:53.799 --> 00:25:56.480 or Miriam the mother, she's a harlot or a whore, 413 00:25:57.119 --> 00:26:01.400 she's a prostitute. It's almost like it's you know, like 414 00:26:01.440 --> 00:26:04.960 when you when you know somebody and they're like they're 415 00:26:05.079 --> 00:26:10.279 raging out and then they're like, uh, they're they're angry 416 00:26:10.319 --> 00:26:13.319 at something that like they're being irrational and so they 417 00:26:13.319 --> 00:26:15.720 start like casting all of these stones at something, but 418 00:26:15.759 --> 00:26:18.240 it doesn't make any logical sense. Like they'll say one thing, 419 00:26:18.559 --> 00:26:20.240 but it's always a polemic, if you can see what 420 00:26:20.240 --> 00:26:21.960 I'm saying. So if you start reading the talment's view 421 00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:24.480 on Christ, it's like none of them are really that coherent, 422 00:26:24.519 --> 00:26:28.119 but they're always really angry about Christ and the Talent. 423 00:26:28.200 --> 00:26:31.039 And so again he's the son of a Roman soldier, 424 00:26:31.039 --> 00:26:33.319 and again a Roman soldier is a heathen at that 425 00:26:33.400 --> 00:26:36.920 time to them, and so he he's a bastard of 426 00:26:36.960 --> 00:26:39.880 a Roman soldier and then marries a whore or a 427 00:26:39.880 --> 00:26:43.519 harlot or you know, there's like these parallels to hire 428 00:26:43.559 --> 00:26:46.279 them a biff being a excuse me, hire them of 429 00:26:46.359 --> 00:26:49.960 Tire being associated with Christ and hire them of Tire 430 00:26:51.119 --> 00:26:54.279 is seen as a pagan king, and so he's not 431 00:26:54.359 --> 00:26:57.400 viewed at not viewed as in a very good light 432 00:26:57.759 --> 00:27:01.160 from the Talent's perspective. But you see this echoed in Freemasonry, 433 00:27:01.480 --> 00:27:03.680 or if you read the Free Masonic definition of Hiram 434 00:27:03.720 --> 00:27:09.680 of Tire, he he's like Hiram is sort of associated 435 00:27:09.720 --> 00:27:11.519 with Christ and Freemasonry because that's kind of like the 436 00:27:11.559 --> 00:27:15.480 equality Christ. All these deities equal, you know, Krishna, Cyrus whatever, 437 00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:18.960 and so Hiram Abiff's death and resurrection rituals so supposed 438 00:27:19.039 --> 00:27:22.039 sopposed to parallel that. And what's interesting is if you 439 00:27:22.119 --> 00:27:25.119 read Hiram Abif or excuse me, Hiram of Tire, there's 440 00:27:25.119 --> 00:27:28.200 two Hirems. Easy to get confused, but they're both part 441 00:27:28.200 --> 00:27:33.400 of the same biblical story. Uh, Hiram of Tire has 442 00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:37.880 like this free Masonic wisdom, but he defers to Solomon. 443 00:27:38.240 --> 00:27:43.599 So he's deferring to uh, you know, the Jewish bloodline 444 00:27:44.200 --> 00:27:46.160 as being the one with the real wisdom. And so 445 00:27:46.240 --> 00:27:48.799 isn't that kind of interesting with the idea of a 446 00:27:48.839 --> 00:27:52.519 Gollum where you see these echoes of Talmudic thought, But 447 00:27:52.599 --> 00:27:56.920 it's changed because Freemasonry will think, well, oh, you know, 448 00:27:56.960 --> 00:28:00.759 it's it's illuminating to understand Christ as the uh the 449 00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:05.079 astro theological one that's kreash No Cyrus whatever, And that's 450 00:28:05.240 --> 00:28:07.839 like part of the illumination process. But it's making him 451 00:28:07.880 --> 00:28:12.359 equal with everything else. And what's also interesting is that, 452 00:28:12.480 --> 00:28:16.880 you know, Mary becomes equilibrated with Isis and Astarte and 453 00:28:16.920 --> 00:28:21.599 all these other female deities. But you start to realize 454 00:28:21.640 --> 00:28:26.640 that Freemasonry and Theosophy Revere the town with the kabbala 455 00:28:26.680 --> 00:28:29.359 and all these sorts of things, and even Freemasonry emits 456 00:28:29.440 --> 00:28:31.799 that their doctrines go back to Filo as being one 457 00:28:31.839 --> 00:28:34.200 of the most important people involved in it. And he 458 00:28:34.319 --> 00:28:39.200 was from Jewish aristocracy, tied to banking and mercantile mercantile 459 00:28:39.240 --> 00:28:44.559 bloodlines emitted on the Jerusalem Post site. And so is 460 00:28:44.599 --> 00:28:47.880 there an agenda to infuse some of this rabbinical wisdom 461 00:28:47.960 --> 00:28:52.160 into these gollums to attack their enemy, which is Christ 462 00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:54.160 and his harlot of a mother as they call it. 463 00:28:54.400 --> 00:28:57.960 But they don't get that version of it. And so 464 00:28:58.200 --> 00:29:02.039 what's really happening is they're they're actually equilibrating Mary with 465 00:29:02.119 --> 00:29:06.039 Isis and they're calling it illumination. But the rabbis are saying, yes, 466 00:29:06.079 --> 00:29:08.079 that's a curse. Thank you. You know what I mean. 467 00:29:08.119 --> 00:29:09.839 And you can see what I'm saying. And so you 468 00:29:09.920 --> 00:29:11.839 start seeing this with lots of different things. You start 469 00:29:11.839 --> 00:29:15.279 seeing with the Protestants. The Protestants will say, you know, oh, 470 00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:19.759 the Roman Catholic Church views, they're the horror Babylon Right, 471 00:29:19.839 --> 00:29:21.839 Mary is just Isis. They almost have the same view 472 00:29:21.880 --> 00:29:25.119 as the Freemasons, but they don't call it illumination. They 473 00:29:25.119 --> 00:29:28.799 think it's evil, right or as the Freemasons call it illuminations, 474 00:29:28.839 --> 00:29:31.599 but they think that the Catholic Church stole it from them. 475 00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:34.480 And so either way they're both attacking the enemy of 476 00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:37.880 these Talmutic cabalists, which is pretty interesting because that's what 477 00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:40.519 the gall I'm supposed to do. And you start realizing 478 00:29:40.559 --> 00:29:44.440 that Martin Luther, when he was making his Reformation, he 479 00:29:44.599 --> 00:29:47.039 was using a lot of Jews who fled from Spain 480 00:29:47.880 --> 00:29:52.079 from the Inquisition and the expulsion. They started helping him 481 00:29:52.599 --> 00:29:54.960 with the Bible, along with these humanist scholars, which are 482 00:29:55.039 --> 00:29:59.359 kind of tied to progressive ideas that really lead down 483 00:29:59.359 --> 00:30:04.200 to transhumor in their logical conclusion. And so these humans 484 00:30:04.359 --> 00:30:06.559 scholars were kind of seen as sort of heretics, and 485 00:30:06.599 --> 00:30:09.119 that's what people were like looking out for. But the 486 00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:12.440 point is they were kind of helping Luther form his 487 00:30:12.559 --> 00:30:15.400 opinion on the Bible, and he was trying to reject 488 00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:18.079 certain books and all these sorts of things, and finally, 489 00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:19.799 all the way down the road ends up with sixty 490 00:30:19.799 --> 00:30:23.039 six books, and sixty six books is a very cabalistic number, 491 00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:25.799 I think in the Catholic Bible, there's seventy three books. 492 00:30:25.839 --> 00:30:32.000 And in the Old Testament, I think it's I can't remember. 493 00:30:32.160 --> 00:30:36.240 I think it's thirty or forty six maybe whatever. Either way, 494 00:30:36.319 --> 00:30:39.759 So and the procescent one is thirty nine. And so 495 00:30:39.799 --> 00:30:41.839 it's interesting about the number thirty nine. That's the Old 496 00:30:41.839 --> 00:30:46.759 Testament and a narcissism. They want to reverse the context 497 00:30:46.759 --> 00:30:49.480 of the Old Testament or the in theosophy where they 498 00:30:49.920 --> 00:30:54.000 view that very differently. So there's these weird reversal curses 499 00:30:54.039 --> 00:30:56.519 that go on. So the number thirty nine when you 500 00:30:56.559 --> 00:30:58.880 reverse it is ninety three, and that's a Crowley number. 501 00:30:58.920 --> 00:31:01.279 And so that's the number of the or will in 502 00:31:01.319 --> 00:31:04.279 the New Testament. But what is that will? Right? Will 503 00:31:04.359 --> 00:31:05.960 is a word, the will of God. How do you 504 00:31:06.000 --> 00:31:09.359 define God? How do you find God's will? So the 505 00:31:09.400 --> 00:31:12.160 Talamutic Elites will of God would be very different than 506 00:31:12.519 --> 00:31:15.400 the Catholics will of God versus I don't know whoever 507 00:31:15.480 --> 00:31:18.319 else is will of God? Right? And so you start 508 00:31:18.319 --> 00:31:23.759 seeing a coherent pattern where the Church is attacked in 509 00:31:23.799 --> 00:31:27.599 a certain way as being you know, pagan and a 510 00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:30.559 harl it and all that kind of stuff. But then 511 00:31:30.920 --> 00:31:33.440 you realize that that's how the Talmud views it. And 512 00:31:33.519 --> 00:31:37.240 you see these sorts of Jewish influences that are formulating 513 00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:41.400 Freemasonry and Protestantism behind the scenes without people really knowing it. 514 00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:44.559 And then Martin Luther had a very bipolar experience with 515 00:31:44.599 --> 00:31:46.920 the Jews that helped him where he was very accepting 516 00:31:46.960 --> 00:31:48.400 and open, and then all of a sudden he writes 517 00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:51.000 this Jews that this, like this book on like the 518 00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:53.960 Jews in their lives, which is seen as like one 519 00:31:53.720 --> 00:31:56.640 of these things that was feeling like Nazism or something 520 00:31:56.680 --> 00:31:58.559 like that, and so like the Way down the Road 521 00:31:58.599 --> 00:32:01.480 because you know it's Protestant Germany, and so it's just 522 00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:04.480 interesting to see that bipolar reaction. But either way, the 523 00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:07.480 result is sixty six Books of the Bible. And then 524 00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:11.319 Protestantism tends to be the most Zionist form of Christianity 525 00:32:11.359 --> 00:32:13.599 out there. And then you get into like John d 526 00:32:13.720 --> 00:32:17.839 and Elizabethan Empire. There's a book by this guy, Jason Leu. 527 00:32:17.920 --> 00:32:19.880 I don't agree with his narrative on it, but it's 528 00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:24.519 a fantastic book to illustrate this point that the angels 529 00:32:25.039 --> 00:32:27.400 that D was talking to were saying, you need to 530 00:32:27.400 --> 00:32:29.839 form a new world order. Empire, and this is a 531 00:32:29.839 --> 00:32:33.240 whole new way of, you know, dealing with Christianity, and 532 00:32:33.279 --> 00:32:38.279 so that ended up becoming the Anglo American establishment and 533 00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:42.119 the kind of the hammer to spread the New Gospel. 534 00:32:42.240 --> 00:32:47.279 So speak of a transmuted understanding of Christianity. And you 535 00:32:47.319 --> 00:32:50.240 wonder if the Protestants were really that aware that this 536 00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:53.400 was going on, because again it's kind of like a 537 00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:56.839 breakdown from different mindsets. So I'll leave it at that. 538 00:32:58.160 --> 00:33:03.960 Yeah, no, very interesting. How much of the writings of Blavatsky, 539 00:33:04.599 --> 00:33:06.920 Pike Hall, how much of that do you think they're 540 00:33:06.960 --> 00:33:09.880 really going by and is any of it just kind 541 00:33:09.880 --> 00:33:14.519 of thrown in to confuse the quote unquote profane. 542 00:33:16.319 --> 00:33:18.400 I think it can be a bit of all of that, 543 00:33:18.599 --> 00:33:25.920 you know. I think that it's created for certain purposes, 544 00:33:26.160 --> 00:33:31.319 again to attacks its enemies. But at the same time, 545 00:33:33.960 --> 00:33:38.279 there's sort of like I'm sure lots of groups that 546 00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:42.039 are are power that do believe in this stuff as 547 00:33:42.039 --> 00:33:46.119 being the truth, Like for example, the United Nations, they're 548 00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:50.960 following the teachings of theosophy Madam Blovatski, and this is 549 00:33:51.000 --> 00:33:55.960 openly admitted on their Lucius Trust Spiritual Foundation website. You 550 00:33:56.000 --> 00:33:57.680 can go read all about it and talk about bringing 551 00:33:57.680 --> 00:34:01.920 the age of Aquarius and harmony through conflict and all 552 00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:05.680 these things. And you know, the Luciferian principle. The way 553 00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:10.800 they understand lucifer it's this active principle, this active fire 554 00:34:11.280 --> 00:34:14.119 that goes through the cycles of evolution and eventually will 555 00:34:14.199 --> 00:34:17.920 rise back up and create this you know, utopia or 556 00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:23.000 this unity consciousness, that kind of thing. So you got 557 00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:26.280 the Unit un which is kind of an important organization 558 00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:30.239 following this teaching. And I would argue that there's probably 559 00:34:30.239 --> 00:34:32.800 a lot of people there that actually believe in it, 560 00:34:32.840 --> 00:34:36.800 but perhaps the people who are really trying to influence 561 00:34:36.840 --> 00:34:40.480 that institution don't necessarily believe all of that. But maybe 562 00:34:40.519 --> 00:34:43.320 they were like the creators of it for a purpose, right, 563 00:34:43.360 --> 00:34:46.719 because like you know, again, there's a lot of attractive 564 00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:49.000 sounding things. There's a lot of nice sounding things that 565 00:34:49.119 --> 00:34:54.199 sound philosophical, they sound humanitarian, it sounds very nice. I'm 566 00:34:54.199 --> 00:34:56.639 not going to and I think that also Freemasonry and 567 00:34:56.679 --> 00:35:03.360 theosophy are attacked in unfair ways by over zealous Christians especially, 568 00:35:04.199 --> 00:35:06.400 And this is what I kind of the satanic panic 569 00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:09.079 kind of stuff. And this is something that I've never 570 00:35:09.519 --> 00:35:11.280 I always it always kind of pissed me off, like 571 00:35:11.320 --> 00:35:17.679 I found myself defending, especially my cult science series, defending Blovatski, Pike, 572 00:35:17.800 --> 00:35:21.159 people like Crowley from some of the sensational claims made 573 00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:23.800 against them. Even if I don't agree with their philosophies, 574 00:35:24.519 --> 00:35:27.559 I still wouldn't. I don't like it when things are 575 00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:30.440 attacked in an unfair way, even if I don't agree 576 00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:32.239 with it, because then it's not being honest if you 577 00:35:32.239 --> 00:35:36.239 can see what I'm saying, and so you know, it's 578 00:35:36.360 --> 00:35:42.000 really when I think it's a useful tool, and there 579 00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:44.079 are some true things in it. There are some good insights, 580 00:35:44.119 --> 00:35:47.159 there are some good critiques I think of Pike and 581 00:35:47.199 --> 00:35:52.639 Blovatski on particular viewpoints, even on Christianity itself in particular instances. 582 00:35:52.679 --> 00:35:56.920 But there's a lot of strange stuff in there that 583 00:35:57.920 --> 00:36:00.519 you realize once you go through history. Who are the 584 00:36:00.519 --> 00:36:04.800 heroes according to like Albert Pike. You know, he says 585 00:36:04.880 --> 00:36:12.119 Napoleon is a great hero, Charlemagne on some level, Cromwell. 586 00:36:12.639 --> 00:36:16.280 What's interesting is all of these people basically, you know, 587 00:36:16.519 --> 00:36:19.679 liberated the Jews and and got let allow them into 588 00:36:19.719 --> 00:36:23.280 power on some level. So that's a pretty interesting coincidence 589 00:36:23.920 --> 00:36:26.920 that that that's what Freemasonry in their mindsets and who 590 00:36:26.920 --> 00:36:30.440 they're revering is is doing. And so again, is that 591 00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:33.559 an indicator of who actually created it and they're just 592 00:36:33.679 --> 00:36:36.559 not aware of it, especially when you have all all 593 00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:39.920 of this reverence for Solomon's Temple. A lot of the 594 00:36:40.079 --> 00:36:44.239 rituals are based on, you know, these sort of biblical concepts, 595 00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:48.159 even though they'll tie it to Hindu stuff or Egyptian 596 00:36:48.199 --> 00:36:51.599 mystery religion and things like that. But the other part 597 00:36:51.679 --> 00:36:55.119 is you think about stuff like the Babylonian captivity, where 598 00:36:55.599 --> 00:36:58.519 in Blavatski's eyes, that was a good thing. That's where 599 00:36:58.840 --> 00:37:02.480 the Jews got the secret doctrine and that's what allowed 600 00:37:02.519 --> 00:37:04.760 them to know the truth, whereas a Catholicism, that's where 601 00:37:04.760 --> 00:37:08.360 they got all the mysticism that deceives humanity. So you 602 00:37:08.440 --> 00:37:11.159 have a complete bipolar viewpoint on these things, and that's 603 00:37:11.199 --> 00:37:14.119 why the interpretation matters. And that's my main issue with 604 00:37:14.159 --> 00:37:17.320 Freemasonry and theosophy and stuff like that. I think it 605 00:37:17.400 --> 00:37:20.920 overgeneralizes a lot of things and doesn't make distinctions that 606 00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:24.599 should be made, and that really kind of tear apart 607 00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:28.039 some of their foundations on certain things. But it's a 608 00:37:28.079 --> 00:37:31.199 lot of word magic. Like you know, you'll you hear 609 00:37:31.239 --> 00:37:35.599 things like oh Solomon right, saw the sun ohm like oom, 610 00:37:35.800 --> 00:37:39.440 and then on the Egyptian deity they'll say, see there, 611 00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:42.280 that's proof that this comes from like some sun worship 612 00:37:42.360 --> 00:37:44.400 or something like that. But like, where does the word 613 00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:47.280 Solomon come from? In Hebrew is shlomo and that doesn't 614 00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:50.039 sound like any of those things, so it only works 615 00:37:50.039 --> 00:37:52.760 in English. So to me, that's the word magic. Well, 616 00:37:52.760 --> 00:37:55.119 when you actually go back to where these things come from, 617 00:37:55.599 --> 00:37:57.639 a lot of times they don't sound the same, so 618 00:37:57.719 --> 00:37:59.760 that that argument kind of falls apart. But that's the 619 00:37:59.760 --> 00:38:03.920 miss of it sounds interesting, and that's part of cabala too. 620 00:38:04.000 --> 00:38:07.920 You speak things into existence and then phonating something. The 621 00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:11.079 vibration of the voice has an important part of this creation. 622 00:38:11.960 --> 00:38:13.519 And so I think that this is kind of all 623 00:38:13.559 --> 00:38:15.719 involved in this stuff on some level. And then there's 624 00:38:15.760 --> 00:38:18.679 an example in Jesus. In the talm Bud, there's an 625 00:38:18.679 --> 00:38:24.039 incredibly interesting curse that's placed where I believe it's the 626 00:38:24.079 --> 00:38:31.480 Greek word penenthos, and then there's a parthenos. I can't 627 00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:33.400 remember exactly, I have it in my videos, but the 628 00:38:33.440 --> 00:38:36.519 point is they reverse some letters in those words, and 629 00:38:36.519 --> 00:38:40.679 that it's the Greek word for virgin, so like virgin Mary, right, 630 00:38:41.159 --> 00:38:44.079 and they reverse it with a Greek word for panther. 631 00:38:44.559 --> 00:38:48.960 That's why he's Jesus. Then pantera pantheros, it's panther. So 632 00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:52.800 you're taking the virgin birth or virgin Mary and making 633 00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:56.119 her into a beast right, a panther, right, And so 634 00:38:56.559 --> 00:38:58.639 that in the book it admits that this is a 635 00:38:58.679 --> 00:39:02.760 tactic that judy is is used to like make curses 636 00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:06.559 against Christianity. And so just when you start reading some 637 00:39:06.599 --> 00:39:08.679 of these things, it's very telling that you see those 638 00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:13.360 things echoed in Protestantism and occultism to attack the Church, 639 00:39:13.599 --> 00:39:16.239 and then you see all of those strange cabalistic parallels 640 00:39:16.280 --> 00:39:19.239 to them. You wonder, where does this stuff really come from? 641 00:39:19.519 --> 00:39:23.000 Comes from versus where the Theosophis and Freemason say it 642 00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:24.519 comes from. I guess that's my point. 643 00:39:25.440 --> 00:39:30.320 Now, I'm glad you said the Satanic panic. They see 644 00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:34.480 Lucifer as something completely different than you know, what modern 645 00:39:34.519 --> 00:39:38.039 day Christians would consider the devil. Could you talk a 646 00:39:38.039 --> 00:39:40.079 little bit about how they view Lucifer. 647 00:39:41.760 --> 00:39:45.480 Yeah, Like I said, it's it's this pure spirit of 648 00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:48.239 ein sofa of Cabala, that would be a synonym for it. 649 00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:55.320 So it's this androgynists unity of infinite oneness, infinite whatever 650 00:39:55.360 --> 00:40:00.079 I guess infinity. And the point is out of this 651 00:40:00.000 --> 00:40:04.599 this oneness, these principles just kind of emanate and then 652 00:40:04.639 --> 00:40:07.079 the material world comes out. So the creator of the 653 00:40:07.079 --> 00:40:09.719 material world is not the highest God as opposed to 654 00:40:10.079 --> 00:40:20.719 you know, Catholicism. And so that is the active principle 655 00:40:20.840 --> 00:40:25.000 of Lucifer is like the fire of Prometheus. It's the intellect, 656 00:40:25.239 --> 00:40:30.599 it's the initiatory force, right, and then there's like the 657 00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:35.559 passive principle of it, which is more like Venus, the harmony, 658 00:40:36.280 --> 00:40:40.000 the androgyny. That's why it's always like musicians they kind 659 00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:43.280 of push, like these androgynist musicians and stuff like that. 660 00:40:43.280 --> 00:40:46.920 That's utilizing like the Venus principles of Lucifer. And that's 661 00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:49.760 kind of like what Lavatski writes about, or what Lucius 662 00:40:49.800 --> 00:40:53.880 trust writes about the divine soular angels that descended from 663 00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:56.360 Venus to enlighten mankind. So this is all seen as 664 00:40:56.400 --> 00:41:02.880 like essentially the consciousness of kind is these principles, So 665 00:41:03.039 --> 00:41:06.719 mankind is Lucifer essentially. That's what they're they're kind of saying, 666 00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:12.440 but it's a rewritten understanding where all it represents is 667 00:41:12.199 --> 00:41:16.519 this principle that goes through cycles of evolution, and that 668 00:41:16.719 --> 00:41:21.119 Darwinian evolution is true. But the materialists don't understand there 669 00:41:21.199 --> 00:41:23.000 is a spiritual component too, and this is what they 670 00:41:23.039 --> 00:41:27.920 tie to Hinduism, this Hindu evolution and reincarnation. Man becomes 671 00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:31.280 a you know, a rock or a plant or an 672 00:41:31.320 --> 00:41:34.920 animal and then you know humans or something like that. 673 00:41:35.760 --> 00:41:39.000 And what's also very interesting about this is if you 674 00:41:39.039 --> 00:41:41.360 tie it back to the Talmuda viewpoint and that the 675 00:41:41.719 --> 00:41:46.519 gentiles are viewed as beasts or cattle. It's funny how 676 00:41:46.519 --> 00:41:49.760 the doctrines of evolution equate you with cattle. It's at 677 00:41:49.800 --> 00:41:52.159 one point I was a cattle like my you know, 678 00:41:52.280 --> 00:41:56.880 like that, just through the cycle of Darwinian evolution. And 679 00:41:56.920 --> 00:42:01.239 then there's also these interesting concepts behind the amha Arts, 680 00:42:01.360 --> 00:42:05.559 which are kind of like heretical or ignorant Jews of 681 00:42:05.559 --> 00:42:08.039 the Talmud, and they're kind of like seen as on 682 00:42:08.039 --> 00:42:10.440 this similar level with the Goyam and how they're not 683 00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:14.599 allowed to eat meat and you know, so to me, 684 00:42:14.639 --> 00:42:18.480 it's part of the vegan vegetarian agenda is to colibrate 685 00:42:18.559 --> 00:42:21.679 humans with animals, right that the animals rights. Where you're 686 00:42:21.719 --> 00:42:25.199 eating with the cows eat, the cattle eat, we're eating vegetables, 687 00:42:25.199 --> 00:42:27.320 you know what I mean? Like the there's a lot 688 00:42:27.320 --> 00:42:29.519 of stuff I did in the research going into this stuff, 689 00:42:29.519 --> 00:42:31.519 and you find that a lot of this vegetarian stuff 690 00:42:31.519 --> 00:42:35.679 comes from the Fabian society, especially in the early nineteen hundreds. 691 00:42:35.719 --> 00:42:37.760 It was like a big puch for this. There's the 692 00:42:38.119 --> 00:42:40.679 World Council of Religions and like I think it's eighteen 693 00:42:40.760 --> 00:42:42.960 ninety three, like the Rockefellers are at all these like 694 00:42:43.400 --> 00:42:46.239 Indian Guru swamis so to me, I think that the 695 00:42:46.679 --> 00:42:51.119 Indian system of religion. I think that these elites find 696 00:42:51.159 --> 00:42:55.000 it useful because I mean, again, this doesn't mean to 697 00:42:55.000 --> 00:42:56.960 be offensive to people out there, but I just think 698 00:42:56.960 --> 00:43:01.480 it creates a lot of passivity and and a lot 699 00:43:01.559 --> 00:43:03.440 of it is about oh, everything's an illusion. We're all 700 00:43:03.440 --> 00:43:06.400 in an illusion, so what does it matter? Or like 701 00:43:06.760 --> 00:43:09.639 it's just about your spiritual evolution. Who cares about everything else? 702 00:43:10.079 --> 00:43:12.039 You know, it's it's it's kind of gnostic in a way, 703 00:43:12.159 --> 00:43:15.079 like the material world doesn't really matter. And that's very 704 00:43:15.119 --> 00:43:19.400 different in Catholicism, and you know, Catholicism incorporated a lot 705 00:43:19.400 --> 00:43:22.519 of Greek philosophy into it, like you know, Aristotle or whatever, 706 00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:25.800 and so this is why you'll find things in like 707 00:43:25.840 --> 00:43:29.480 the Cosmos series with Neili Grass Tyson and Carl Sagan, 708 00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:34.760 you'll find subtle bashes of Aristotle or their heroes will 709 00:43:34.760 --> 00:43:40.039 be Giordano Bruno or Hypatia of Alexandria. And if you 710 00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:43.000 watched Carl Sagan's last episode of Cosmos, the thirteenth episode 711 00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:46.400 of Cosmos, it's all about the Great Library of Alexandria 712 00:43:46.400 --> 00:43:50.480 and this Alexandrian cosmopolitan paradise that is sort of like 713 00:43:50.519 --> 00:43:53.280 paradise lost to them, and you find out that's where 714 00:43:53.800 --> 00:43:56.800 these these Jews had their their power in Alexandria, like 715 00:43:57.159 --> 00:44:00.199 the Philo of Alexandria. There's a lot of that culture, 716 00:44:00.280 --> 00:44:04.199 the more liberal culture came from there. So it's kind 717 00:44:04.239 --> 00:44:06.559 of interesting. And then even Blavatski will talk about how 718 00:44:06.639 --> 00:44:10.239 the Talmudic wisdom was at the Great Library of Alexandria 719 00:44:10.280 --> 00:44:12.480 and then it gets scattered to different areas and stuff 720 00:44:12.519 --> 00:44:16.440 like that, and so you just see a complete reversal 721 00:44:16.559 --> 00:44:19.679 of these two understandings of European history. But again you 722 00:44:19.760 --> 00:44:21.239 have to look more into the I call it the 723 00:44:21.440 --> 00:44:25.360 esoteric Catholic version, something like the plot against the Church 724 00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:29.119 by Maurice Pine or Michael Jones Jewish revolutionary spirit something 725 00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:32.679 like that, if you understand that mindset more properly rather 726 00:44:32.760 --> 00:44:36.920 than like you know, post especially post Vatican Two and 727 00:44:37.679 --> 00:44:41.800 this sort of like honestly like more like free Masonic Catholicism, 728 00:44:41.840 --> 00:44:44.079 which is kind of more what it's like today in 729 00:44:44.119 --> 00:44:49.159 certain ways. And you know the Pope Francis New World Order, 730 00:44:49.480 --> 00:44:54.239 you know, globalization and infinite immigration, all that kind of stuff. Again, 731 00:44:54.280 --> 00:44:56.880 there's a process of infiltration stuff like that. So it's 732 00:44:56.920 --> 00:45:00.679 more complex than just good bad or something like that 733 00:45:00.719 --> 00:45:05.599 in an encompassing way. But so to sum it up, 734 00:45:05.719 --> 00:45:08.639 I mean, the doctrines I think are useful on one 735 00:45:09.360 --> 00:45:14.400 level for a power structure that's very very much in 736 00:45:14.400 --> 00:45:16.719 control of a lot of things. And then there's also 737 00:45:16.760 --> 00:45:19.559 people that probably really believe these things and believe they're 738 00:45:19.559 --> 00:45:22.280 doing good because there is a lot of nice sounding 739 00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:26.519 stuff in it, but perhaps they're missing some key components 740 00:45:26.559 --> 00:45:30.119 and unfortunately it just makes you a useful person. And 741 00:45:30.159 --> 00:45:31.440 I'm sure there's a lot of people in like the 742 00:45:31.519 --> 00:45:33.480 un that are really thinking they're doing a lot of good, 743 00:45:34.119 --> 00:45:37.440 but really there's a lot of suspicious stuff going on 744 00:45:37.519 --> 00:45:40.599 in the UN is now pushing all this vegan vegetarian 745 00:45:40.599 --> 00:45:41.320 stuff as well. 746 00:45:43.159 --> 00:45:48.039 Now, what are your thoughts on the significance of elite bloodlines? 747 00:45:48.280 --> 00:45:51.440 And you know the possibility you hear, oh they may 748 00:45:51.480 --> 00:45:56.199 have off planet origin or divine origin. What are your 749 00:45:56.199 --> 00:45:56.760 thoughts on that? 750 00:45:57.519 --> 00:46:00.599 Well, I think the bloodlines thing, I don't get too 751 00:46:00.679 --> 00:46:03.519 caught up in that in some all encompassing way, because 752 00:46:03.679 --> 00:46:05.880 there's sort of this tendency. And again, I think this 753 00:46:05.840 --> 00:46:08.480 is sort of like a trick, an alchemical trick, because 754 00:46:08.480 --> 00:46:11.199 alchemy is about equilibrium. You're taking two opposites and you 755 00:46:11.239 --> 00:46:16.159 try to equilibrate them and transmute a mindset. And so 756 00:46:17.519 --> 00:46:20.880 I talk about this in my newer series. How if 757 00:46:20.920 --> 00:46:24.440 you want to neutralize your enemy, like say, for example, 758 00:46:24.639 --> 00:46:27.760 you know things are dangerous to the New World or 759 00:46:27.800 --> 00:46:31.800 establishment people speaking out about nine to eleven deception, lies, chemtrails, 760 00:46:32.119 --> 00:46:35.599 any dangers of vaccines, Federal Reserve system, any of those 761 00:46:35.599 --> 00:46:38.800 things that people mostly can agree on are not good 762 00:46:38.800 --> 00:46:42.360 for humanity, and you're speaking out against those things. Well, 763 00:46:43.360 --> 00:46:45.280 is there a way to neutralize those people. They're going 764 00:46:45.320 --> 00:46:47.920 to speak out against that anyways, So is there a 765 00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:50.199 way you can get them to also attack your enemy 766 00:46:50.280 --> 00:46:53.280 and then okay, let them speak these things that are 767 00:46:53.320 --> 00:46:55.639 against us, as long as they're promoting these other things 768 00:46:55.639 --> 00:46:58.199 that help us. See what I'm saying. It's just a 769 00:46:58.239 --> 00:47:01.320 tactic of warfare, neutralizing your enemy. And so that's what 770 00:47:01.400 --> 00:47:03.679 I think happens a lot with like the ideas of Saturn. 771 00:47:03.760 --> 00:47:03.840 Right. 772 00:47:03.920 --> 00:47:06.559 People always say, oh, Saturn is evil, they worship it 773 00:47:06.639 --> 00:47:08.920 and all these things, but you have to understand what 774 00:47:08.960 --> 00:47:13.400 does Saturn really mean? And it's in more astrological terms, 775 00:47:13.400 --> 00:47:17.760 it's like functions of authority, restriction, limitation. But is are 776 00:47:17.800 --> 00:47:20.760 those things always bad? Right? And so if you get 777 00:47:20.760 --> 00:47:24.559 this sort of Marxist authority always bad, aristocracy always bad, 778 00:47:24.639 --> 00:47:28.960 bloodline's always bad, then you're constantly a revolutionary. And that's 779 00:47:29.000 --> 00:47:31.360 how they take advantage of you. They have you on 780 00:47:31.400 --> 00:47:34.079 your you know, I'm on my crusade with my pitchfork 781 00:47:34.079 --> 00:47:37.760 to march frank Sin's castle. But you just see these 782 00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:40.719 things that look like a monster because you've been engineered 783 00:47:40.760 --> 00:47:42.559 to think it is, and then you just go wind 784 00:47:42.639 --> 00:47:45.800 up and go and it's useful, right, and so for me, 785 00:47:45.920 --> 00:47:49.159 like the bloodline, things look at like the European aristocracy. 786 00:47:50.039 --> 00:47:54.679 There's an interesting book. It's it's kind of intense, but 787 00:47:54.880 --> 00:47:56.440 it has a lot of interesting things in it. It's 788 00:47:56.480 --> 00:47:58.760 called the Plot against the Church I mentioned earlier by 789 00:47:58.760 --> 00:48:01.920 Maurice Pinay. It's just them, Maurice Pine for a bunch 790 00:48:01.960 --> 00:48:05.400 of high up Catholic clergy before Vatican two that saw 791 00:48:05.440 --> 00:48:08.119 what was happening, and they wanted to give the esoteric 792 00:48:08.239 --> 00:48:11.280 version of Catholic history and pass it around because they 793 00:48:11.320 --> 00:48:15.960 were really concerned about what was going on. At least 794 00:48:15.960 --> 00:48:19.840 that's my understanding of it. But the point is the 795 00:48:19.840 --> 00:48:24.960 the Catholic bloodlines that the Bourbons, you know, et cetera, 796 00:48:25.000 --> 00:48:29.880 and Stewart's kind of hop back and forth between Catholicism Prosientism. 797 00:48:29.920 --> 00:48:33.639 But the point of that book is that it was 798 00:48:33.760 --> 00:48:37.880 very difficult for these infiltrators to get into the positions 799 00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:40.800 of government because it was based upon nobility, right, you 800 00:48:40.840 --> 00:48:45.239 have to be in these bloodlines, and you know, again 801 00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:49.960 it depends on what the situation is. And so that's 802 00:48:50.079 --> 00:48:52.000 kind of the reasoning for getting rid of all the 803 00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:56.920 monarchies in Europe or co opting ones. So the French 804 00:48:56.920 --> 00:48:59.719 Revolution got rid of the you know, the French monarchy. 805 00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:05.360 The Urbans Louis sixteenth beheaded Charles the first was beheaded. 806 00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:09.039 They and then from then on Britain pretty much remained 807 00:49:09.360 --> 00:49:13.400 with a Protestant monarch. That the czars of Russia, you know, 808 00:49:13.480 --> 00:49:16.639 the bullshit of revolution, took out Nicholas a second and 809 00:49:17.159 --> 00:49:22.760 murdered his entire family. So that's what Augustin Barrowell documents 810 00:49:22.760 --> 00:49:25.239 in the Anti Monarch book was conspiracy, and Maurice Piney 811 00:49:25.320 --> 00:49:29.280 talks about how that was a bulwark against these talmudik 812 00:49:29.280 --> 00:49:32.000 elite from infiltrating and this is why you get the 813 00:49:32.039 --> 00:49:36.199 conversal crisis in Catholic Spain. The Spanish Inquisition. If you 814 00:49:36.239 --> 00:49:38.079 read this book by Chris Cayman, this is like a 815 00:49:38.199 --> 00:49:41.119 university book that's seen as like the more objective and 816 00:49:41.199 --> 00:49:45.960 authoritative version on the Spanish Inquisition. I've read the whole 817 00:49:45.960 --> 00:49:48.480 book and it's very interesting and it is very objective. 818 00:49:48.480 --> 00:49:50.440 But one thing that's very funny about it is that 819 00:49:50.840 --> 00:49:54.119 this guy, this author, he got a special visit from 820 00:49:54.199 --> 00:49:57.199 ben zion Net and Yahoo, which is Benjamin Nettahu's father. 821 00:49:57.760 --> 00:50:00.280 He's not alive anymore. But he was in a really 822 00:50:00.360 --> 00:50:06.079 historian or specifically the Jews in Spain, and basically that 823 00:50:07.239 --> 00:50:10.400 benzion Net and Yaho influence came in to basically promote, 824 00:50:10.440 --> 00:50:12.360 and especially in the first three chapters, that there's no 825 00:50:12.559 --> 00:50:16.159 evidence of any Jewish conspiracy to infiltrate the Church. And 826 00:50:16.239 --> 00:50:18.239 I'd say that's a conflict of interest if you have 827 00:50:18.320 --> 00:50:22.360 the Israeli Prime minister's father telling you that this is 828 00:50:22.440 --> 00:50:24.800 how you need to view the Jews in Spain. No 829 00:50:25.000 --> 00:50:29.440 Jewish conspiracy, right. And so this was why the Inquisition 830 00:50:29.559 --> 00:50:31.400 happened to begin with. It was had nothing to do. 831 00:50:32.159 --> 00:50:34.960 The Inquisition couldn't do anything to people who were Jews. 832 00:50:35.039 --> 00:50:37.400 The Jews lived by themselves, and they were allowed to 833 00:50:37.440 --> 00:50:39.760 live by themselves, and they weren't supposed to harass them 834 00:50:39.800 --> 00:50:43.280 as long as they, you know, weren't stirring up any problems. 835 00:50:43.960 --> 00:50:47.960 And the same thing with the Muslim communities. And you 836 00:50:48.079 --> 00:50:50.079 only got put in the Inquisition if you were a 837 00:50:50.199 --> 00:50:56.000 Christian and you were, you know, committing heresy, right, So 838 00:50:56.440 --> 00:50:59.480 they weren't just hunting down Pagans. The Pagans weren't Christians. 839 00:50:59.559 --> 00:51:02.960 So like people have these misconceptions like the Inquisition just 840 00:51:03.480 --> 00:51:06.119 look for any free thought and just burnt them, you 841 00:51:06.159 --> 00:51:07.679 know what I mean, Like that's kind of the view 842 00:51:07.719 --> 00:51:09.639 we get. But what really was going on was that 843 00:51:10.639 --> 00:51:14.280 there were Jewish people converting to Christianity and it doesn't 844 00:51:14.480 --> 00:51:17.400 and some of them were sincere, some of them might 845 00:51:17.480 --> 00:51:19.119 not have been, and some of them that might not 846 00:51:19.239 --> 00:51:21.760 have been might have been actually plotting to overtake it 847 00:51:21.880 --> 00:51:27.639 because they were left in you know, the Pilgrims. And 848 00:51:27.760 --> 00:51:34.199 so what's interesting is then all these people start converting 849 00:51:35.039 --> 00:51:39.400 and then all these you know, the ship storm starts happening. 850 00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:41.159 And so that's the whole point of why the Inquisition 851 00:51:41.280 --> 00:51:47.199 came about to begin with. And so they're they're trying 852 00:51:47.280 --> 00:51:49.599 to get into the aristocracy. They're trying to get into 853 00:51:49.599 --> 00:51:52.320 the bloodlines and the Maurice Piney they said that they were. 854 00:51:52.480 --> 00:51:56.800 They successfully infiltrated the British aristocracy. It took a long time, 855 00:51:57.639 --> 00:51:59.880 and that's interesting that they're one of the royal families 856 00:51:59.920 --> 00:52:03.760 that still allowed to do their thing, you know, the 857 00:52:03.800 --> 00:52:05.480 rest of them they had to take out. And so 858 00:52:06.400 --> 00:52:08.920 another great example of this coming out of Hollywood. You know, 859 00:52:08.960 --> 00:52:11.400 have you've seen the Matrix? I'm sure of course. Yeah, 860 00:52:11.440 --> 00:52:13.039 you know, you know how the Mara Ofvingian is the 861 00:52:13.119 --> 00:52:16.920 bad guy, and he's this French asshole, you know, likes 862 00:52:16.960 --> 00:52:19.199 whipping his ass with soup or whatever, you know. And 863 00:52:19.360 --> 00:52:25.920 so what's interesting is that the mayor Ofvingian kings. They 864 00:52:27.119 --> 00:52:30.920 were according to Jewish historians, I think Gretz is one 865 00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:35.920 of them, they didn't they didn't let the Jews into power. Basically, 866 00:52:36.039 --> 00:52:38.719 they were very good about keeping their power suppressed and 867 00:52:39.119 --> 00:52:42.039 protecting their homeland because that's where they were from. They 868 00:52:42.159 --> 00:52:45.039 they were pagan kings who converted to Catholicism. So this 869 00:52:45.159 --> 00:52:49.519 is their land and they're choosing to follow a particular religion. 870 00:52:49.599 --> 00:52:52.599 So the baptism of Clovis is seen as this miracle event. 871 00:52:53.239 --> 00:52:56.360 And so those were the kings, despite them not being 872 00:52:56.360 --> 00:52:59.280 able to behave themselves all the time. They you know, 873 00:52:59.480 --> 00:53:02.760 they had a problem with sexual immorality, and that was 874 00:53:02.800 --> 00:53:05.000 what the Christians were trying to like help them solve, 875 00:53:05.159 --> 00:53:07.719 but somewhere better than others about it. And so that's 876 00:53:07.760 --> 00:53:11.960 another thing. It's a very human process, this conversion. But 877 00:53:12.079 --> 00:53:13.920 they didn't they didn't let the Jews in the power 878 00:53:13.920 --> 00:53:16.079 because they thought they thought they were a threat to 879 00:53:16.159 --> 00:53:18.599 their kingdom, and so they're just protecting their homeland. And 880 00:53:18.679 --> 00:53:21.480 so how interesting is that out of Hollywood? The Maravingians 881 00:53:21.480 --> 00:53:23.679 are the bad guys, They're the bad blood line. And 882 00:53:23.719 --> 00:53:25.199 then they're the ones that are supposed to be the 883 00:53:25.199 --> 00:53:28.199 blood line of Christ. And he married Mary Magdalen, who's 884 00:53:28.239 --> 00:53:31.920 a prostitute. So now they're making Jesus equal with a prostitute. 885 00:53:32.280 --> 00:53:34.719 And that's the merri of Vigene line. But look what 886 00:53:34.840 --> 00:53:37.320 they actually did in history, and that what comes out 887 00:53:37.360 --> 00:53:39.480 of Hollywood. Things start to line up. 888 00:53:39.519 --> 00:53:42.039 And see what I'm saying, Yeah, in Hollywood, that's a 889 00:53:42.079 --> 00:53:44.800 perfect segue to what I want to talk about next. 890 00:53:45.320 --> 00:53:48.440 Is what I'm noticing coming out of Hollywood, not only 891 00:53:48.599 --> 00:53:52.119 the rampant occult symbolism. I mean, you know, they're not 892 00:53:52.239 --> 00:53:54.559 even hiding it anymore. I just see more and more 893 00:53:54.599 --> 00:53:58.679 of it. There's on Netflix a lot of Witchcraft and 894 00:53:58.760 --> 00:54:03.119 a cult, but more anything is the robots and transhumanism. 895 00:54:04.599 --> 00:54:07.000 You have any thoughts on what they're trying to push 896 00:54:07.119 --> 00:54:09.000 with transhumanism. 897 00:54:09.400 --> 00:54:12.079 Yeah, a lot of that is tied to occultism. My 898 00:54:12.360 --> 00:54:16.400 cult science series, it's a very long series. I guess 899 00:54:16.400 --> 00:54:19.000 I should have mentioned this in the beginning. Everything I 900 00:54:19.079 --> 00:54:21.760 have here is source. I try to source it very well, 901 00:54:22.480 --> 00:54:24.800 so I'm not just talking out my ass a lot 902 00:54:24.840 --> 00:54:28.000 of these things, because I mean it's easy to You 903 00:54:28.079 --> 00:54:30.760 can't give every source when you're doing an interview, right 904 00:54:30.880 --> 00:54:33.679 but right, Yeah, So anyways, the point of that series 905 00:54:33.880 --> 00:54:37.880 is that it talks about all of the occultism that's 906 00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:42.039 embedded in society and how it's really a religion that 907 00:54:42.199 --> 00:54:44.239 people follow, whether they know it or not. In a 908 00:54:44.320 --> 00:54:45.920 lot of ways, Like if you believe in the Big 909 00:54:46.039 --> 00:54:50.400 Bang theory, you're following the cabalistic story of creation, the 910 00:54:50.719 --> 00:54:53.880 cosmic egg, the primordial matter. This is stuff you can 911 00:54:53.920 --> 00:54:56.880 all find in Blavatski or Manly Palmer Hall Secretging of 912 00:54:56.960 --> 00:54:59.840 All Ages. It's almost like an exact replica of what 913 00:55:00.039 --> 00:55:02.519 you say about the Big Bang. Everything was condensed into 914 00:55:02.559 --> 00:55:07.159 a single point and then the infinite burst into existence 915 00:55:07.199 --> 00:55:10.920 from this cosmic egg, and you know, then there's pan 916 00:55:11.000 --> 00:55:15.000 spermic evolution or something like that. And so where that 917 00:55:15.079 --> 00:55:17.679 came from was a Catholic priest. But again, think about 918 00:55:17.679 --> 00:55:20.920 the infiltration. If you have a Catholic priest who comes 919 00:55:20.960 --> 00:55:23.599 from I think he came from the Netherlands and that's 920 00:55:23.719 --> 00:55:27.280 that's where some of the Sephardic Jews fled to and 921 00:55:27.440 --> 00:55:29.360 and it's kind of been established that, you know, the 922 00:55:29.480 --> 00:55:34.000 Dutch had a lot of that influence there. George Lemaitre 923 00:55:35.280 --> 00:55:37.559 came up with the Big Bang theory essentially and worked 924 00:55:37.599 --> 00:55:44.360 with Einstein to varying degrees. And that's like, if you 925 00:55:44.440 --> 00:55:46.360 just look at the capitalistic story and you listen to 926 00:55:46.440 --> 00:55:48.679 what modern science says about the Big Bang, generally speaking, 927 00:55:48.719 --> 00:55:51.800 it's it's almost identical. So is that is that a coincidence? 928 00:55:51.880 --> 00:55:54.760 And so another interesting thing is apparently Pope pie is 929 00:55:54.760 --> 00:55:58.400 the twelve. You know, he's a pope, he's not a scientist. 930 00:55:58.480 --> 00:56:00.280 So he's like, oh, you know it, is this a 931 00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:03.119 proof for Catholicism? And apparently the Mature was a kind 932 00:56:03.119 --> 00:56:05.559 of hostile to him, like no, no, no, let's keep 933 00:56:05.599 --> 00:56:07.599 religion out of that. He like didn't want this to 934 00:56:07.679 --> 00:56:09.920 be attached to Catholicism, which was kind of weird. And 935 00:56:10.039 --> 00:56:12.679 so if you understand how like some of these infiltrators, 936 00:56:12.760 --> 00:56:14.920 or at least they say they work, you know, there's 937 00:56:15.280 --> 00:56:18.079 suspicious stuff around the Mature, and like how we utilized 938 00:56:18.119 --> 00:56:23.360 this stuff or how he interacted. But Anyways, so all 939 00:56:23.400 --> 00:56:25.679 that stuff is tied into transhumanism because that's just the 940 00:56:25.800 --> 00:56:28.400 natural evolution of man. Right, if we're all just this 941 00:56:28.920 --> 00:56:34.519 active principle and everything is this pantheistic oneness, that's essentially 942 00:56:34.679 --> 00:56:39.000 again the active principle of Lucifer. Well, why not transfer 943 00:56:39.079 --> 00:56:43.719 your consciousness into something made by the Promethean intellect of technology? 944 00:56:44.320 --> 00:56:47.239 And so ironically that's like another Gollum if you can 945 00:56:47.239 --> 00:56:50.239 see what I'm saying, you're creating crude matter and then 946 00:56:50.239 --> 00:56:55.199 you're infusing a spirit into it, right, And so if 947 00:56:55.239 --> 00:56:58.280 it's based on the big bang of Kabbalah, what spirit 948 00:56:58.360 --> 00:57:00.480 are you infusing into all of this tech in conocracy 949 00:57:00.559 --> 00:57:03.039 in transhumanism. I don't know. The reality is if they could. 950 00:57:03.079 --> 00:57:05.079 I mean, I don't believe you can actually transfer your 951 00:57:05.119 --> 00:57:09.119 own consciousness into some sort of avatar. People could try. 952 00:57:09.960 --> 00:57:13.119 I would highly advise against it. But that's just me, 953 00:57:14.039 --> 00:57:17.880 you know. But but that's there's a lot of strange 954 00:57:17.960 --> 00:57:23.639 pushes with that, the twenty forty five Avatar Project. You 955 00:57:23.760 --> 00:57:25.679 got to go through the Cult Science series to see 956 00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:27.719 all the parallels. There's a lot of parallels to this 957 00:57:28.559 --> 00:57:33.440 theosophy in Kabbala that's infused into the transhumanism and now 958 00:57:33.480 --> 00:57:36.800 they're bringing it to this spiritual idea and they always 959 00:57:36.880 --> 00:57:38.280 use this idea, well, we can't go back to the 960 00:57:38.400 --> 00:57:41.960 dark ages, we need to evolve, and they always use 961 00:57:42.000 --> 00:57:45.840 the moon landing as this a precursor example for this. 962 00:57:46.039 --> 00:57:47.880 So it's like, well, if you believe the moon landing 963 00:57:48.320 --> 00:57:50.880 wasn't what they said and maybe didn't even happen, what 964 00:57:50.960 --> 00:57:53.840 does that say about all their projections with this transhumanist 965 00:57:53.880 --> 00:57:55.679 stuff if they're saying that that's like one of the 966 00:57:55.760 --> 00:58:00.159 pinnacle events that led to this and you know, I 967 00:58:00.199 --> 00:58:01.599 don't know, but it's really like a lot of the 968 00:58:01.880 --> 00:58:05.159 Hindu Avatar stuff. It's it's it's always based upon Eastern 969 00:58:05.199 --> 00:58:09.639 religion on some level, and they're always trying to destroy 970 00:58:10.159 --> 00:58:16.039 European Christianity and the process and that gets into all 971 00:58:16.159 --> 00:58:19.639 kinds of different things. But yeah, the the Gollum and 972 00:58:19.679 --> 00:58:21.960 the Adam Cadman of Kabbala, that's that's kind of a 973 00:58:22.039 --> 00:58:24.960 similar principle. And then the last thing I'll mention about 974 00:58:24.960 --> 00:58:30.480 the transhumanist stuff that that's pretty wild is in Blevatski's writing, 975 00:58:30.599 --> 00:58:33.280 she talks about this Promethean prophecy, because Prometheus is a 976 00:58:33.400 --> 00:58:37.519 very important figure. And the allegory is he steals the 977 00:58:37.599 --> 00:58:40.840 fire from the gods, or he's he gives you the nosis, 978 00:58:41.400 --> 00:58:43.480 and that evil demiur just doesn't want you to know 979 00:58:43.599 --> 00:58:45.519 about it, right, And again that the Demiurge is just 980 00:58:45.599 --> 00:58:53.000 an allegory for Catholic Christian Empire. And so he's the liberator, 981 00:58:53.519 --> 00:58:59.039 he's the revolutionary, liberating figure. And so that that spark 982 00:58:59.119 --> 00:59:02.159 of intellect, I mean, Prometheus is right outside of Rockefeller Center. 983 00:59:02.199 --> 00:59:04.400 And that's the point of my Catholicism series is that 984 00:59:04.519 --> 00:59:07.599 Rockefeller Center was built in direct opposition to Saint Patrick's 985 00:59:07.639 --> 00:59:10.079 Cathedral at a time in the eighteen hundreds where there 986 00:59:10.119 --> 00:59:12.480 was a lot of Catholic immigration and Catholic Church was 987 00:59:12.559 --> 00:59:15.159 kind of rising in prominence, and you have all these 988 00:59:15.400 --> 00:59:21.360 Protestant polemics during that time about you know, Romish plots 989 00:59:21.360 --> 00:59:23.239 and all these sorts of things. A little side tangent, 990 00:59:23.320 --> 00:59:25.800 but that's the point that you know, the Rockefellers are 991 00:59:25.800 --> 00:59:30.320 one of these lost establishments that's kind of paved the 992 00:59:30.400 --> 00:59:32.599 way for nine to eleven. And they're the ones that 993 00:59:32.639 --> 00:59:34.760 built the Twin Towers, right, and then it got transferred 994 00:59:34.800 --> 00:59:38.159 over to Silverstein or whatever, and so you could see 995 00:59:38.199 --> 00:59:41.960 the blending of all polarities into one, which is their 996 00:59:42.559 --> 00:59:44.679 understanding of God. So you know, this way, you have 997 00:59:44.719 --> 00:59:46.559 all the weird gender shit going on, you have all 998 00:59:46.639 --> 00:59:49.000 of the race mixed thing that is. I don't have 999 00:59:49.039 --> 00:59:51.920 a problem with that, but it's promoted and it's encouraged, 1000 00:59:51.960 --> 00:59:56.800 and it's you know, it's it's overly represented, it's overly pushed. Right, 1001 00:59:56.920 --> 01:00:01.559 it's the agenda driving it to you know, destroy Europe 1002 01:00:01.599 --> 01:00:03.880 basically with mass immigration and all that kind of stuff. 1003 01:00:04.159 --> 01:00:07.239 And so you know who wants to destroy Europe, that 1004 01:00:07.360 --> 01:00:09.800 the monotheism Europe. And you listen to people like Barbara 1005 01:00:09.840 --> 01:00:13.239 Spector talk about this and they say, point blank, you know, 1006 01:00:14.199 --> 01:00:17.440 the Jewish people are going to be spearheading this movement 1007 01:00:17.519 --> 01:00:20.480 to bring immigration into Europe. And you know a lot 1008 01:00:20.519 --> 01:00:22.920 of these conflicts start to make sense. And so for 1009 01:00:23.000 --> 01:00:28.400 the transhumanist stuff, to me, it's just control people getting 1010 01:00:28.519 --> 01:00:30.159 I don't know, have a problem with technology per se 1011 01:00:30.239 --> 01:00:35.280 in and of itself, depending on there's a certain ceilings 1012 01:00:35.559 --> 01:00:37.440 say I would hit with it, but like I don't 1013 01:00:37.480 --> 01:00:39.159 have a problem with somebody owning an iPhone, But the 1014 01:00:39.199 --> 01:00:42.639 problem is if people don't have moral restrictions or they 1015 01:00:42.679 --> 01:00:47.199 don't have discipline, they're going to be enslaved to it. 1016 01:00:47.280 --> 01:00:49.960 And you know, I find myself struggling with this just 1017 01:00:50.039 --> 01:00:52.280 like anybody else, and I try really hard not to, 1018 01:00:52.440 --> 01:00:55.400 but you know, they push this all in Hollywood. Everything 1019 01:00:55.480 --> 01:00:58.679 is becoming androgynists, right, merging the sexes, and this gets 1020 01:00:58.719 --> 01:01:03.360 into and the occult deity is this androgynist of Braxis 1021 01:01:04.039 --> 01:01:06.320 and so as above so below. It seems like they're 1022 01:01:06.320 --> 01:01:10.000 trying to bring that spiritual concept to human beings. And 1023 01:01:10.119 --> 01:01:12.400 sometimes I just wonder if, like the you know, the 1024 01:01:12.920 --> 01:01:17.199 transgender stuff with like Bruce Jenner, who apparently grew up 1025 01:01:17.199 --> 01:01:21.480 in Newtown, Connecticut, that santy Hook event took place very strange. 1026 01:01:23.320 --> 01:01:28.320 You know, he's like the poster person for this, and 1027 01:01:29.360 --> 01:01:33.760 you just wonder, is that just a way of debasing 1028 01:01:33.840 --> 01:01:36.159 society And let's see what we can get, you know, 1029 01:01:36.960 --> 01:01:39.920 Western civilization to do, because we we hate it, you know, 1030 01:01:40.079 --> 01:01:44.119 and so let's let's destroy all of their their relationships, 1031 01:01:44.719 --> 01:01:47.159 get them all obsessed with sex or this or that 1032 01:01:47.360 --> 01:01:49.880 or whatever, and destroy the culture and debase it. And 1033 01:01:49.920 --> 01:01:51.880 the more stupid they get, the more we'll be able 1034 01:01:51.960 --> 01:01:56.039 to dominate and have our control and then the technology 1035 01:01:56.480 --> 01:02:00.800 just to push to do that further. You know, that's 1036 01:02:00.840 --> 01:02:05.000 what's kind of scary about, you know, the stranglehold that 1037 01:02:05.039 --> 01:02:07.400 it has over us. Because things if you look into 1038 01:02:07.440 --> 01:02:09.159 like the Noahide Laws and stuff like that. I mean, 1039 01:02:09.199 --> 01:02:14.400 George Bush signed those into American laws and Acts nineteen 1040 01:02:14.480 --> 01:02:16.199 ninety one around when he had all those New World 1041 01:02:16.280 --> 01:02:18.840 Order speeches, right, So what New World Order was he 1042 01:02:18.880 --> 01:02:21.480 talking about when he's signing in the Noahide Laws and 1043 01:02:21.639 --> 01:02:24.280 those things are you know, on the surface, they sound nice, 1044 01:02:24.320 --> 01:02:27.719 it's like no idolatry or whatever. But idolatry to them 1045 01:02:28.039 --> 01:02:31.880 is Christ or Christianity, right, because we talked about it 1046 01:02:32.000 --> 01:02:34.079 like he's a pagan demon according to them, And that's 1047 01:02:34.119 --> 01:02:37.840 the whole point of the Gospels. The Gospels corroborate the Talmud, 1048 01:02:37.920 --> 01:02:41.559 but in the inverted way, and so you know that's 1049 01:02:41.599 --> 01:02:45.119 something to consider. And also weird things about the Noahide Laws, 1050 01:02:45.360 --> 01:02:50.239 like they're for sexual morality, and you know that tradition 1051 01:02:50.760 --> 01:02:53.840 homosexuality is bad, So you wonder if a lot of 1052 01:02:53.920 --> 01:02:59.719 this push for LGBT stuff is actually trying to destroy 1053 01:03:00.519 --> 01:03:04.599 American values. And then once they've done their they're bidding, 1054 01:03:05.079 --> 01:03:07.119 they're just gonna turn on them. So I would actually 1055 01:03:07.199 --> 01:03:10.119 be if I was an LGBT activist, I would protest 1056 01:03:10.199 --> 01:03:15.079 to noahyde laws. Why isn't any ready protesting those? And 1057 01:03:15.159 --> 01:03:17.400 then also they I think they have to do with 1058 01:03:17.559 --> 01:03:21.000 like preventing witchcraft or something. So you wonder when people 1059 01:03:21.000 --> 01:03:22.880 get into like tarot and stuff like that in a 1060 01:03:22.960 --> 01:03:27.480 divinatory way, right, rather than like the psychological way, could 1061 01:03:27.519 --> 01:03:29.159 that be a part of that? You know, because there's 1062 01:03:29.159 --> 01:03:33.519 this big occult revival, and once that destroys the old 1063 01:03:33.599 --> 01:03:38.119 world completely, is are these noahal lies is gonna turn 1064 01:03:38.199 --> 01:03:40.119 on you? I mean, that's just a concern I would have, 1065 01:03:40.280 --> 01:03:42.159 just like with any of the transhumanist stuff, where it's 1066 01:03:42.159 --> 01:03:44.320 all this guy's is love and light and the robots 1067 01:03:44.320 --> 01:03:45.960 are just gonna help us. And the other thing is 1068 01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:48.880 that the most important transhumanist figure is the Sofia head, right, 1069 01:03:48.920 --> 01:03:52.000 the Sophia of narcissism, and it's just the face and 1070 01:03:52.079 --> 01:03:54.719 the faces the top sphere of the Tree of Life 1071 01:03:54.760 --> 01:03:57.679 and Gabala which encompasses all the other seffarots. So you know, 1072 01:03:57.719 --> 01:03:59.880 again go with the transhumanism stuff and the end of 1073 01:04:00.119 --> 01:04:02.440 cult science series and it gets pretty wild. 1074 01:04:03.440 --> 01:04:08.119 Definitely, definitely, And you had briefly mentioned Sandy Hook. Now 1075 01:04:08.840 --> 01:04:14.760 you hear researchers talk about the possibilities of occult aspects 1076 01:04:14.840 --> 01:04:18.760 to this, maybe even ritualistic aspects to large events like 1077 01:04:18.920 --> 01:04:23.360 nine to eleven, even the JFK assassination. I know you've 1078 01:04:23.400 --> 01:04:27.360 done some research on this. What are your thoughts on that, on. 1079 01:04:28.119 --> 01:04:30.880 Any of those events or Sandy Hook in particular, But. 1080 01:04:31.199 --> 01:04:32.360 It could be any of those. 1081 01:04:32.480 --> 01:04:33.039 I mean, just. 1082 01:04:34.559 --> 01:04:37.360 If anything you know particular sticks out in your mind 1083 01:04:37.400 --> 01:04:39.719 about one of those, you know, one of those events 1084 01:04:39.760 --> 01:04:41.280 in particular, we can talk about that. 1085 01:04:41.719 --> 01:04:46.400 Yeah, JFK. Number one, the most capitalistic occult stuff you'll 1086 01:04:46.440 --> 01:04:48.760 find around any of these events comes from JFK. It's 1087 01:04:48.840 --> 01:04:51.639 actually kind of mind blowing. And this gets in the 1088 01:04:51.719 --> 01:04:53.760 idea of like, well, this, to me, this is beyond 1089 01:04:54.159 --> 01:04:58.159 human intervention with the JFK stuff. And I have a 1090 01:04:58.320 --> 01:05:00.519 series on that that people can watch. I've done a 1091 01:05:00.519 --> 01:05:02.400 lot of talks on these things. The best talk to 1092 01:05:02.480 --> 01:05:05.519 listen to to get the full spectrum of it is 1093 01:05:05.840 --> 01:05:08.159 the talk I did with Tim Kelly of our Interesting 1094 01:05:08.239 --> 01:05:11.159 Times podcast. I did a three hour talk with him, 1095 01:05:11.199 --> 01:05:13.800 and on my channel, I posted it with slide so 1096 01:05:13.880 --> 01:05:16.239 people can see all of the source information stuff like that. 1097 01:05:16.400 --> 01:05:18.920 But to try to give a synopsis real quick of 1098 01:05:18.960 --> 01:05:24.079 the JFK stuff. Number one, Daily Plaza is shaped like 1099 01:05:24.119 --> 01:05:27.159 the Cabala tree of life and reflects the Masonic Temple. 1100 01:05:27.480 --> 01:05:31.280 The directions correspond with this. The best example I can 1101 01:05:31.360 --> 01:05:36.639 give is outside of the layout itself, there's three pillars 1102 01:05:36.800 --> 01:05:40.880 of Daily Plaza. There's a Commerce Street, Main Street, and 1103 01:05:40.960 --> 01:05:44.039 Elm Street, and so Elm Street would be the north pillar, 1104 01:05:44.119 --> 01:05:46.199 the pillar of darkness. And you wonder why a nightmare 1105 01:05:46.280 --> 01:05:48.719 on Elm Street. Elm Street is kind of like always 1106 01:05:48.760 --> 01:05:52.559 have a negative connotation. Well, that's the dark pillar on 1107 01:05:52.679 --> 01:05:55.599 the Masonic Temple. If you transpose it onto Daily Plaza, 1108 01:05:56.800 --> 01:06:01.039 Commerce Street is the right pillar, so that would be jacking. 1109 01:06:01.159 --> 01:06:03.159 The dark pillar would be Boaz or Elm Street would 1110 01:06:03.159 --> 01:06:06.760 be Boaz and the middle pillar is Maine. And that's 1111 01:06:06.800 --> 01:06:09.360 the equilibrium of the two. And so it's the north 1112 01:06:09.440 --> 01:06:11.599 and South pillar with Maine at the center. And what's 1113 01:06:11.719 --> 01:06:15.679 very interesting is the horizontal streets all split north and 1114 01:06:15.800 --> 01:06:17.960 south at Main Street, so there's a North Houston and 1115 01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:20.320 then there's a South Houston. It splits at the middle pillar, 1116 01:06:20.920 --> 01:06:24.480 just like would be reflected on the Masonic U transposition 1117 01:06:25.639 --> 01:06:31.599 and the ritual of Hiram Mabeff. He's he's assailed in 1118 01:06:31.760 --> 01:06:35.119 the northwest corner of the temple. That's where JFK was 1119 01:06:35.159 --> 01:06:38.400 shot and he was killed heading west and JFK was 1120 01:06:38.480 --> 01:06:42.599 killed heading west. Hira Mabef got three blows. He was 1121 01:06:43.199 --> 01:06:46.599 JFK was shot with three bullets. Whether you know the 1122 01:06:47.719 --> 01:06:51.320 story right, the narrative of it, whether you believe it 1123 01:06:51.360 --> 01:06:56.519 to be true or not. The three blows were to 1124 01:06:58.599 --> 01:07:04.639 the then the chest and HEADJK. He had bullet fragments 1125 01:07:04.960 --> 01:07:06.679 in the chest cavity, but the bullet was said to 1126 01:07:06.679 --> 01:07:07.519 come in the back, so it's kind of like a 1127 01:07:07.519 --> 01:07:10.360 little reversal, you know, chess or back whatever. It's still 1128 01:07:10.360 --> 01:07:12.360 into the chest cavity. He was hitting the neck, or 1129 01:07:12.360 --> 01:07:13.920 at least they say that. In the Zupruder film. You 1130 01:07:13.920 --> 01:07:15.880 can see him going like that at one particular point, 1131 01:07:16.079 --> 01:07:17.760 and then the final blow that kills Himo Biff is 1132 01:07:17.800 --> 01:07:19.679 to the head. And of course we all know what 1133 01:07:19.760 --> 01:07:22.199 happened with JFK, or at least as we saw in 1134 01:07:22.239 --> 01:07:24.840 the Zapruder film. Again, I don't know, there's a lot 1135 01:07:24.840 --> 01:07:29.599 of theories about that event, how much hoaxery was going on, 1136 01:07:29.800 --> 01:07:32.039 and how much messing with the Zapruder film was there. 1137 01:07:33.280 --> 01:07:36.880 But it emulates the Hi death and Resurrection ritual to 1138 01:07:37.039 --> 01:07:40.320 a t. There's also these other rituals that are built 1139 01:07:40.360 --> 01:07:43.880 into it that are pretty wild. There's an azzel escapegoat 1140 01:07:43.960 --> 01:07:46.320 ritual which goes back to Leviticus, and then the capitalistic 1141 01:07:46.400 --> 01:07:49.679 understanding of it. It's for sexual iniquity, and of course 1142 01:07:49.719 --> 01:07:52.360 think about JFK and the sexual affair with Meril Monroe. 1143 01:07:52.400 --> 01:07:54.239 Whether it happened or not, that's in the minds of 1144 01:07:54.280 --> 01:07:57.599 the people. This is all about consciousness mindsets, and so 1145 01:07:57.800 --> 01:08:02.199 she's like the woman and read the Seductress. And then 1146 01:08:02.320 --> 01:08:04.559 the other part is if you read Carl Jung's al 1147 01:08:04.639 --> 01:08:08.519 chemical writings on Mysterium, can youngstionis it's I think it's 1148 01:08:08.639 --> 01:08:11.119 volume fourteen of his collective works. I have to double 1149 01:08:11.239 --> 01:08:15.719 check that. But all of the alchemy, there's this concept 1150 01:08:15.760 --> 01:08:19.359 of an alchemical transmutation of the king in the King 1151 01:08:19.439 --> 01:08:24.319 and Queen in alchemy, and that the story of this. Again, 1152 01:08:24.359 --> 01:08:25.800 this is one of those things where there's a million 1153 01:08:25.880 --> 01:08:28.119 different versions of this. But if you piece together some 1154 01:08:28.239 --> 01:08:32.479 of the coherent parts of it. How you transmit the 1155 01:08:32.560 --> 01:08:34.880 king is that you return him to his beast nature 1156 01:08:34.920 --> 01:08:38.920 as animal nature is instinctual nature. And one of the 1157 01:08:38.960 --> 01:08:40.880 ways of doing this is providing him with an eye 1158 01:08:41.000 --> 01:08:43.560 charmer and eye candy. That's a woman, the scarlet woman, 1159 01:08:43.680 --> 01:08:47.640 the horror right, and so again right on cue, Marilyn 1160 01:08:47.680 --> 01:08:50.319 Monroe comes out for Happy Birthday as the President, and 1161 01:08:50.399 --> 01:08:54.720 then you know, whatever happened happened. But that's kind of 1162 01:08:54.880 --> 01:08:58.239 like the idea is that there's a trap laid for 1163 01:08:58.319 --> 01:09:02.079 the king to return to his sexual, primal nature. And 1164 01:09:02.199 --> 01:09:04.079 that's like if you see the tarot card of strength, 1165 01:09:05.119 --> 01:09:08.319 you see the woman petting the beast, the king, the 1166 01:09:08.399 --> 01:09:11.640 lion king, and then Crowley's version is lust, which is 1167 01:09:12.239 --> 01:09:14.800 the woman riding the lion king. Right, So it's like 1168 01:09:14.840 --> 01:09:17.439 the duality of the woman Mary. And then you see 1169 01:09:17.479 --> 01:09:19.680 these weird dualities in like the Zapruder film where you 1170 01:09:19.760 --> 01:09:21.560 at the beginning of the Zapruter film, it starts out 1171 01:09:21.640 --> 01:09:24.720 kind of pretty like a garden corresponds to a lot 1172 01:09:24.720 --> 01:09:26.239 of Tarot cards. If you look at the Magician card 1173 01:09:26.239 --> 01:09:30.000 in Taro, the first one, it's got a rose garden. 1174 01:09:30.199 --> 01:09:33.119 It's kind of like a color motif of red and white. 1175 01:09:33.840 --> 01:09:35.880 And you see that color motif at the beginning, and 1176 01:09:35.920 --> 01:09:38.479 there's this girl named Rosemary Willis who comes out. She 1177 01:09:38.600 --> 01:09:40.199 must be like, I don't know, nine ten eleven year 1178 01:09:40.199 --> 01:09:42.720 old girl. She's dressed in red and white. She has 1179 01:09:42.760 --> 01:09:45.439 like a white sweatshirt and red shorts or a dress. 1180 01:09:45.840 --> 01:09:48.680 And her name is rose Mary, right, So the red 1181 01:09:48.720 --> 01:09:51.800 and white roses and then Mary right like kind of 1182 01:09:51.840 --> 01:09:54.520 like the virgin innocent Mary. And then later on, just 1183 01:09:54.600 --> 01:09:57.760 before the assassination, he's killed when he passes the dark 1184 01:09:57.880 --> 01:10:02.079 Mary Mary Mormon right, more black, and she's dressed in black. 1185 01:10:02.800 --> 01:10:05.279 And then the other girl, the lady in red, is 1186 01:10:05.319 --> 01:10:08.600 Norma Jean Mortons. Excuse me, Norma Jean Hill. And Marily 1187 01:10:08.680 --> 01:10:12.800 Monroe's actual name is Norma Jean Mortensen. So what a 1188 01:10:12.880 --> 01:10:16.079 strange correspondence where you have like the black Harlot Madonna 1189 01:10:16.159 --> 01:10:18.600 in her colors of black and red just before the 1190 01:10:18.720 --> 01:10:20.840 kill shot. But you started out with the duality of 1191 01:10:20.880 --> 01:10:26.199 the more virgin, innocent Rosemary Willison the innocent colors. And 1192 01:10:26.359 --> 01:10:29.960 so that's the duality of Mary that Carl Jung talks about. 1193 01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:32.439 And you can see that in the namesake of the 1194 01:10:32.520 --> 01:10:35.039 people in the event, and that the colors they dress in, 1195 01:10:35.680 --> 01:10:38.800 and I have to I can't say that that's coincidence, you. 1196 01:10:38.840 --> 01:10:43.079 Know, And that's fascinating how all that can just be 1197 01:10:43.239 --> 01:10:47.000 a part of this event and how much that event affected, 1198 01:10:47.439 --> 01:10:50.640 you know, humanity after that. It had such a large 1199 01:10:50.800 --> 01:10:52.600 profound effect on people in general. 1200 01:10:53.600 --> 01:10:56.159 Yeah, for sure. And to tie it back into what 1201 01:10:56.199 --> 01:10:58.920 we were talking about, JFK is really the only Catholic 1202 01:10:59.039 --> 01:11:03.079 president ever, So that's very important to people who want 1203 01:11:03.159 --> 01:11:06.760 to destroy Christendom or transmute it. That's really what it 1204 01:11:06.880 --> 01:11:10.239 is about. Transmutation, and that's what alchemy is. You're taking 1205 01:11:10.319 --> 01:11:14.399 the old king, the old Christendom, the old saturn or authority, 1206 01:11:14.880 --> 01:11:17.720 and you're transmuting it into the new one. And so 1207 01:11:17.880 --> 01:11:19.960 during that event, that was in the nineteen sixties, that 1208 01:11:20.039 --> 01:11:23.439 was right when Vatican two was happening, that was right 1209 01:11:23.520 --> 01:11:28.439 when all the sexual revolution, you have all this stuff, 1210 01:11:28.479 --> 01:11:33.279 you know, the rise of modern feminism, just transmuting society 1211 01:11:33.279 --> 01:11:36.079 and its values as a whole. And JFK was kind 1212 01:11:36.119 --> 01:11:39.199 of like the catalyzing moment of that. And you're basically 1213 01:11:39.279 --> 01:11:43.319 taking the old Christ of Catholicism and you're transporting into 1214 01:11:43.359 --> 01:11:46.600 the New Christ, which again the Talmud. They refer to 1215 01:11:46.760 --> 01:11:49.359 the Talmud as God in the flesh or the Alpha 1216 01:11:49.359 --> 01:11:51.560 and the Omega. These are all terms for Christ, right, 1217 01:11:52.279 --> 01:11:56.880 And so if you're transmuting Christ, then you're going to 1218 01:11:57.000 --> 01:11:59.319 use all these Christ's symbols. So they have the hire 1219 01:11:59.439 --> 01:12:05.640 of masonry, that's Christ to them. You have the death 1220 01:12:05.680 --> 01:12:08.279 and resurrection of o Cyrus, and you have this ritual 1221 01:12:08.359 --> 01:12:12.760 based upon io Isis Opifis Osiris and Croley magic. There's 1222 01:12:12.760 --> 01:12:16.880 a lot of Croley stuff involved in this. North the 1223 01:12:16.960 --> 01:12:21.079 daily Plaza North and South roots are seventy seven, so 1224 01:12:21.159 --> 01:12:24.079 there's two seventy sevens on each pillar if you apply 1225 01:12:24.199 --> 01:12:26.560 that the Croley magic, seventy seven is an important number. 1226 01:12:26.640 --> 01:12:29.760 And Babylon and all this stuff. And so the point 1227 01:12:29.880 --> 01:12:33.840 is that he's a Catholic king in namesake, let's say, 1228 01:12:34.239 --> 01:12:37.600 not so much behavior. And he's the only president that's 1229 01:12:37.600 --> 01:12:39.920 really been portrayed as a king, right the king of Camelot, 1230 01:12:39.960 --> 01:12:42.399 and Camelot goes back to Arthurian legends which are tied 1231 01:12:42.439 --> 01:12:45.279 to Catholicism and medieval chivalry stuff like that, and so 1232 01:12:47.439 --> 01:12:50.199 interesting how he was transmuted in that event where you 1233 01:12:50.279 --> 01:12:53.199 have a death, and this is alchemy. You poison or 1234 01:12:53.239 --> 01:12:57.239 you go to the negrado, You intentionally destroy something and 1235 01:12:57.319 --> 01:12:59.239 then you resurrect it in the new form that you 1236 01:12:59.319 --> 01:13:03.239 want it to be. And so JFK's eternal flame was 1237 01:13:03.359 --> 01:13:06.600 lit right, the flame of Prometheus, the torch. You're resurrecting 1238 01:13:06.680 --> 01:13:10.720 it symbolically. And then you had Jackie Kennedy dressed in 1239 01:13:10.880 --> 01:13:13.079 like the mourning veil of like Isis and she was 1240 01:13:13.159 --> 01:13:15.520 in between her two children for these iconic photographs, the 1241 01:13:15.560 --> 01:13:19.000 two Gemini Twins. It basically reflected the High Priest's tarot card, 1242 01:13:19.039 --> 01:13:21.479 but just the morning veil. And so that's a ritual 1243 01:13:21.479 --> 01:13:25.720 in Curlyland. Isis is Jackie Kennedy Opifus? Or set is 1244 01:13:26.239 --> 01:13:30.640 Oswald the destroyer and Kennedy is Osiris. And there's all 1245 01:13:30.640 --> 01:13:34.399 these strange things associated with Oswald and Pan or the scapegoat. 1246 01:13:34.479 --> 01:13:37.159 He is literally the scapegoat. That's part of the ritual, right, 1247 01:13:37.840 --> 01:13:41.199 And so Oswald. If you look up the meeting of Oswald, 1248 01:13:41.199 --> 01:13:44.000 it means divinely powerful god of the forest in English, 1249 01:13:44.279 --> 01:13:47.920 in English surname, and it's like, well that's what Pan is, 1250 01:13:48.239 --> 01:13:50.399 Isn't that really weird. You know, all these crazy that's 1251 01:13:50.680 --> 01:13:53.119 crazy correspondences, and again you have to go through the 1252 01:13:53.199 --> 01:13:55.159 series to see the depth of it all. But the 1253 01:13:55.279 --> 01:13:57.600 point being is that this is what you do to 1254 01:13:57.720 --> 01:14:02.000 transmute the old Osiris into the new one. This is 1255 01:14:02.039 --> 01:14:04.199 what concept that mainly Palmer Paul talks about. And the 1256 01:14:04.279 --> 01:14:09.159 new Osiris is the resurrected, more perfect, divine Osiris. And 1257 01:14:09.319 --> 01:14:12.199 so to me, this is just simply the Apollo eleven 1258 01:14:12.279 --> 01:14:15.520 moon mission because JFK was the one who initiated everyone 1259 01:14:15.600 --> 01:14:18.000 into the idea of going to the moon. Whether people 1260 01:14:18.039 --> 01:14:21.640 believe that we did or not, he was the initiatory force. Right, 1261 01:14:23.199 --> 01:14:25.760 we choose to go to the moon, and so that 1262 01:14:25.960 --> 01:14:29.000 was fulfilled through the Apollo eleven event allegedly. 1263 01:14:29.640 --> 01:14:30.199 And what is that. 1264 01:14:30.520 --> 01:14:33.920 It's a giant obelisk shooting, a flaming obelisk shooting off 1265 01:14:33.960 --> 01:14:38.119 into space to unite with the Moon, the virgin Moon 1266 01:14:38.199 --> 01:14:41.000 that no man has ever touched before. Right, a new 1267 01:14:41.199 --> 01:14:44.800 virgin birth. And then that births the universal religion of science. Right, 1268 01:14:44.840 --> 01:14:49.439 everyone's enamored with science. This is the greatest achievement of mankind. 1269 01:14:49.520 --> 01:14:51.720 And now the Prometheus God is the new gods. You 1270 01:14:51.920 --> 01:14:54.760 transmuted it from the old Christ, the old God of 1271 01:14:54.880 --> 01:14:58.359 Catholicism in the you know, the Holy Roman Empire and 1272 01:14:58.479 --> 01:15:03.039 Christendom to now it's the free Masonic Christ of technology 1273 01:15:03.119 --> 01:15:04.920 and Promethean evolution. Basically. 1274 01:15:06.800 --> 01:15:11.479 That is fascinating. Now for the last few minutes we have, 1275 01:15:13.079 --> 01:15:16.880 we live in very fascinating times. I'm seeing things that 1276 01:15:16.960 --> 01:15:19.840 I never thought i'd see before. But there's this weird 1277 01:15:20.000 --> 01:15:24.680 polarity going on where there's rampant censorship on one side, 1278 01:15:25.119 --> 01:15:28.079 and then we have this whole QAnon weird thing going 1279 01:15:28.159 --> 01:15:32.720 on where people are supposedly waking up. What do you think, 1280 01:15:33.520 --> 01:15:35.399 What does it look like to you in the next 1281 01:15:35.439 --> 01:15:38.840 few years as to how it relates to the way 1282 01:15:38.920 --> 01:15:40.079 they're trying to push us. 1283 01:15:42.039 --> 01:15:45.359 Oh boy, that's a tall order. I think that there's 1284 01:15:45.399 --> 01:15:49.920 definitely something big on the horizon. But I don't mean 1285 01:15:49.960 --> 01:15:51.760 to be like alarmist about it or anything like that. 1286 01:15:51.880 --> 01:15:53.760 I think it's just a lot of it is just 1287 01:15:53.840 --> 01:15:59.640 a very much a consciousness shift. And I also I 1288 01:15:59.720 --> 01:16:04.319 do astrology. I'm kind of on hiatus right now retooling 1289 01:16:04.439 --> 01:16:08.840 some things, but I know a lot about astrology basically, 1290 01:16:08.920 --> 01:16:14.039 and so there's an interesting cycle that's ending right now Pluto, 1291 01:16:14.920 --> 01:16:18.199 whether you believe it's a planet or not whatever. In astrology, 1292 01:16:18.960 --> 01:16:21.359 when something returns to its original point of an event, 1293 01:16:21.399 --> 01:16:24.359 it's seen as very important. So, for example, every time 1294 01:16:24.399 --> 01:16:26.720 you celebrate your birthday, that's a solar return. Your son 1295 01:16:26.840 --> 01:16:29.000 is returning to the point where you were born on 1296 01:16:29.079 --> 01:16:33.520 the zodiac. And so that's why the sun represents you yourself. 1297 01:16:34.439 --> 01:16:37.960 It's kind of like your ego in a way, and 1298 01:16:38.039 --> 01:16:40.039 so that's why your birthday is all about you, right, 1299 01:16:40.640 --> 01:16:43.399 So ironically, and you celebrate a birthday, you're actually kind 1300 01:16:43.399 --> 01:16:47.239 of practicing astrology, you just don't really know it. And 1301 01:16:47.399 --> 01:16:50.359 same thing with a Saturn return that's every twenty to 1302 01:16:50.520 --> 01:16:53.279 thirty years, and so that's about reaping and sewing. And 1303 01:16:53.479 --> 01:17:01.439 so if you've not you know, if you just kind 1304 01:17:01.479 --> 01:17:05.880 of preaty asked off, it didn't really you know, take responsibility. 1305 01:17:06.159 --> 01:17:07.880 You're going to get that back to you when you're 1306 01:17:07.960 --> 01:17:09.840 twenty thirty. A lot of people go through a crisis 1307 01:17:09.880 --> 01:17:12.199 where oh shit, you know, like I just kind of 1308 01:17:12.319 --> 01:17:14.600 party a lot in my twenties and now like I'm 1309 01:17:14.640 --> 01:17:16.760 trapped because I don't have money or I'm in debt 1310 01:17:16.880 --> 01:17:19.000 or whatever. College that happens a lot of people. I mean, 1311 01:17:19.039 --> 01:17:21.359 it happened to me on certain levels, not to those extents, 1312 01:17:21.399 --> 01:17:23.840 but like probably a lot of people can identify with that. 1313 01:17:23.960 --> 01:17:27.039 So the further out the planet is, the more intense 1314 01:17:27.079 --> 01:17:28.199 it is. And so when you get out to the 1315 01:17:28.279 --> 01:17:31.680 generational planets like Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto, they move very 1316 01:17:31.760 --> 01:17:34.239 very slowly through the zodiac. And so these are why 1317 01:17:34.239 --> 01:17:38.439 they're seen as generational. They encompass generations. So, for example, 1318 01:17:39.039 --> 01:17:41.880 the sixties generation, Pluto was for the most part in 1319 01:17:41.960 --> 01:17:44.880 the sign of Virgo. And again Virgo is like the 1320 01:17:45.000 --> 01:17:49.039 Virgin or the mother the Church, right, that's the allegory 1321 01:17:49.720 --> 01:17:55.319 of the church. It's the woman. And so you're transmuting 1322 01:17:55.359 --> 01:17:57.640 the church during that time through Vatican two and stuff 1323 01:17:57.640 --> 01:18:01.039 like that. So the divine fire, the divine again, that's 1324 01:18:01.760 --> 01:18:05.000 it's like it's a burning bush basically, But how do 1325 01:18:05.039 --> 01:18:07.399 you interpret the burning bush that the talm will interpret 1326 01:18:07.479 --> 01:18:11.880 that very differently than Catholicism or you know, even maybe Freemasonry, 1327 01:18:12.760 --> 01:18:14.359 but Free Mason we were probably more in line with 1328 01:18:14.439 --> 01:18:16.880 the Cabala. But the point being is that's like the 1329 01:18:16.920 --> 01:18:20.119 divine fire of God, and so you're you're monitoring cycles. 1330 01:18:20.560 --> 01:18:23.479 And I'm not espousing astrology in a divinatory way. I'm 1331 01:18:23.520 --> 01:18:28.319 not espousing it in a predicting this will happen. I 1332 01:18:28.399 --> 01:18:31.680 don't do any of that to me, that's all. Don't 1333 01:18:31.800 --> 01:18:34.079 I don't jibe with any of that. But the point 1334 01:18:34.199 --> 01:18:38.279 is this Pluto cycle the start the founding of America 1335 01:18:38.399 --> 01:18:41.680 seventeen seventy six, Pluto was in I think it's twenty 1336 01:18:42.359 --> 01:18:46.359 eight degrees, twenty nine degrees Capricorn, twenty seven, I can't remember. 1337 01:18:46.439 --> 01:18:49.840 It's it's around the end of Capricorn. So now it's 1338 01:18:49.920 --> 01:18:53.159 coming back around where it's approaching its original point at 1339 01:18:53.199 --> 01:18:57.680 the founding of America. So for in theory, this event 1340 01:18:57.720 --> 01:19:00.279 would be very important to America as a whole. And 1341 01:19:00.399 --> 01:19:02.640 America really kind of dictates what the rest of the 1342 01:19:02.720 --> 01:19:05.680 world does. You know, where the the American dream that 1343 01:19:05.760 --> 01:19:08.119 everybody looks at whatever you think about, a dream for 1344 01:19:08.199 --> 01:19:14.119 some nightmare for others. But so that's really like symbolically saying, 1345 01:19:14.399 --> 01:19:17.760 the divine fire of God, the real God, you know, 1346 01:19:18.439 --> 01:19:22.720 is coming around. And Pluto is a planet of judgment, 1347 01:19:23.399 --> 01:19:26.399 and so what is you know again, Judgment's a word. 1348 01:19:26.760 --> 01:19:28.920 How do you define it? What is a judgment to somebody, 1349 01:19:29.520 --> 01:19:32.520 But these are something to think about. The astrology correspondence 1350 01:19:32.640 --> 01:19:36.760 is there, whether you believe in astrology to have legitimacy 1351 01:19:36.880 --> 01:19:39.319 or not. But the elites certainly monitor it, so there 1352 01:19:39.439 --> 01:19:42.279 might have their own view of point on judgment. They 1353 01:19:42.359 --> 01:19:44.800 might try to enact some of that, but are they 1354 01:19:44.840 --> 01:19:46.600 the ones who are really in control and will they 1355 01:19:46.640 --> 01:19:47.800 be able to do that? And I think that that 1356 01:19:47.880 --> 01:19:50.680 gets around to free will. I think I do believe 1357 01:19:51.359 --> 01:19:53.279 this is an accordance with Catholic teaching. We all have 1358 01:19:53.399 --> 01:19:56.039 free will, and that's why I don't believe in the 1359 01:19:56.079 --> 01:19:59.279 astrology that says otherwise, I don't practice it. I don't 1360 01:19:59.439 --> 01:20:02.600 mess with it, and people are free to do so 1361 01:20:02.680 --> 01:20:04.960 if they want, but for me, that's just not what 1362 01:20:05.039 --> 01:20:08.680 I do. And so I think it indicates there is 1363 01:20:08.720 --> 01:20:11.199 a collective. We all have a relationship to the collective, 1364 01:20:11.279 --> 01:20:14.359 and so our free will impacts the people around us. 1365 01:20:15.039 --> 01:20:17.319 And so I think it's going to be an interesting 1366 01:20:17.439 --> 01:20:21.399 time with that cycle. Whether there is validity to astrology 1367 01:20:21.479 --> 01:20:23.840 or not, the elites will be viewing it and probably 1368 01:20:23.920 --> 01:20:26.119 trying to perform some shanning, and it's based on that. 1369 01:20:26.319 --> 01:20:29.039 I don't know what it would be, but it could 1370 01:20:29.079 --> 01:20:32.680 be also a time for powerful change if people, I think, 1371 01:20:32.760 --> 01:20:35.880 get back to healthier ways of being and are able 1372 01:20:36.000 --> 01:20:38.560 to view the deception. And I think, like you said, 1373 01:20:38.600 --> 01:20:41.840 the QAnon stuff, even though I'm I'm really suspicious of 1374 01:20:41.880 --> 01:20:47.039 all those sorts of things. To me, Trump represents people 1375 01:20:47.159 --> 01:20:52.359 at least looking back to tradition on some level, whether 1376 01:20:52.520 --> 01:20:55.960 he's a complete puppet, whether he's sort of on the 1377 01:20:56.000 --> 01:20:58.399 outskirts but still control. Whatever you think about what he 1378 01:20:58.479 --> 01:21:01.439 actually is, I don't even really care. I don't get 1379 01:21:01.479 --> 01:21:05.159 Trump triggered when people when he says something stupid. I 1380 01:21:05.279 --> 01:21:09.079 don't overly promote him. I just think he's there because 1381 01:21:09.119 --> 01:21:11.960 that is just a reflection of the state of America. 1382 01:21:12.000 --> 01:21:13.800 I think that's why I think the rulers kind of are. 1383 01:21:14.319 --> 01:21:18.479 It's kind of like the collective people. It gets kind 1384 01:21:18.520 --> 01:21:21.239 of like personified in a way and a ruler. So 1385 01:21:21.319 --> 01:21:23.720 in some way, when you overly criticize the rulers in 1386 01:21:23.800 --> 01:21:26.239 some way, you're probably actually criticizing yourself, and you just 1387 01:21:26.600 --> 01:21:29.039 you want to blame everything on the president, right, That's 1388 01:21:29.119 --> 01:21:31.199 kind of a trap we all fall into. And so 1389 01:21:32.560 --> 01:21:35.520 I think it's just simply a time where people are 1390 01:21:35.600 --> 01:21:37.800 looking back and be like, you know what, maybe the 1391 01:21:37.840 --> 01:21:40.399 way we used to do things was better and healthier, 1392 01:21:40.800 --> 01:21:42.600 and everyone's telling us we got to move forward and 1393 01:21:42.600 --> 01:21:46.000 do all this stuff. But you start, I think we're 1394 01:21:46.000 --> 01:21:48.600 seeing a lot of the things coming to fruition, especially 1395 01:21:48.680 --> 01:21:51.920 the founding principles that our country was founded on. I'm 1396 01:21:51.960 --> 01:21:55.399 not saying I I you know, I'm not saying do 1397 01:21:55.520 --> 01:21:57.119 away with the Bill Rights or anything like that. I'm 1398 01:21:57.119 --> 01:21:59.439 just saying that there was a lot of Freemasonic deistic 1399 01:21:59.520 --> 01:22:02.479 principles built into the founding of America. And I think 1400 01:22:02.520 --> 01:22:06.319 that some of those principles, despite sounding nice, are coming 1401 01:22:06.359 --> 01:22:09.800 to their logical conclusion now and we're seeing the monster 1402 01:22:09.920 --> 01:22:12.279 that it creates, and we might have to rethink some 1403 01:22:12.399 --> 01:22:15.520 of these things. And so I try to be positive, 1404 01:22:15.760 --> 01:22:19.520 and I think that we need to do our best 1405 01:22:20.319 --> 01:22:23.159 to try to deal with the fact that maybe there 1406 01:22:23.239 --> 01:22:25.399 is an objective morality that we should try to be 1407 01:22:25.479 --> 01:22:27.439 striving for or alluding to. And I think that that's 1408 01:22:27.479 --> 01:22:29.920 where going back to some of the tradition that we've 1409 01:22:29.920 --> 01:22:35.479 been programmed to think is evil and repressive, maybe actually 1410 01:22:35.680 --> 01:22:39.319 sometimes those things are liberating, and the things that tell 1411 01:22:39.399 --> 01:22:42.199 us that are liberating is actually what's oppressive and enslaving 1412 01:22:42.279 --> 01:22:46.199 us even though it's disguised as freedom and liberation, and 1413 01:22:46.279 --> 01:22:48.600 how many wars end up getting fought because of that 1414 01:22:49.439 --> 01:22:50.479 very notion, right. 1415 01:22:51.680 --> 01:22:56.119 Very well said. And man, that is some deep stuff. Everybody. 1416 01:22:56.199 --> 01:22:58.359 You have to go check out you YouTube that is 1417 01:22:58.439 --> 01:23:01.319 schis them two six right, Yes. 1418 01:23:01.239 --> 01:23:05.319 Sir, and I have a Twitter account that I just 1419 01:23:05.439 --> 01:23:09.479 post whatever's new. I'm not super active on it. People 1420 01:23:09.600 --> 01:23:12.960 can feel free to email me. I also in my research, 1421 01:23:13.039 --> 01:23:15.720 I'm going to be creating a website. It's kind of 1422 01:23:15.800 --> 01:23:17.800 in the works right now, and I'm gonna have a 1423 01:23:17.880 --> 01:23:21.479 paid member section. You know, It's not going to be 1424 01:23:21.800 --> 01:23:24.960 super expensive, pretty standard for what probably other people charge, 1425 01:23:25.039 --> 01:23:30.680 and that will allow me to really dig into a 1426 01:23:30.760 --> 01:23:35.159 lot of the stuff a bit better. And also the 1427 01:23:35.239 --> 01:23:37.399 astrology stuff will be coming back at some point, so 1428 01:23:37.640 --> 01:23:40.239 you know, if anybody looks into the research, they like 1429 01:23:40.319 --> 01:23:42.000 it enough to like be like, hey, you know, I'm 1430 01:23:42.000 --> 01:23:43.720 interested in the paid member section, or maybe I might 1431 01:23:43.880 --> 01:23:46.760 be interested in astrology reading in the future. Feel free 1432 01:23:46.800 --> 01:23:49.640 to email me. I don't respond to comments. I don't 1433 01:23:49.680 --> 01:23:52.159 have time. I need to try to get away from 1434 01:23:52.159 --> 01:23:54.439 the computer as much as possible. But I am very 1435 01:23:54.520 --> 01:23:59.520 open to people contact me if they'd like, and so, yeah, 1436 01:23:59.680 --> 01:24:03.000 you could follow on Twitter, subscribe on YouTube, and then 1437 01:24:04.279 --> 01:24:06.600 look out for more stuff in the future with a 1438 01:24:06.680 --> 01:24:10.880 whole new website and the pay member stuff. Definitely well 1439 01:24:10.960 --> 01:24:13.840 one podcast, sorry, one last thing. The podcast. It's on 1440 01:24:14.000 --> 01:24:15.800 hiatus right now. I think I have like sixteen or 1441 01:24:15.840 --> 01:24:19.319 seventeen episodes. People can check those out again some of 1442 01:24:19.359 --> 01:24:22.760 the older content. My mind set is shifted a bit, 1443 01:24:22.880 --> 01:24:25.520 but I think it's still relevant. And the best way 1444 01:24:25.520 --> 01:24:29.960 I can describe it is before it was very neutral, 1445 01:24:30.039 --> 01:24:33.520 without any real narrative. It was just observing and connecting 1446 01:24:33.640 --> 01:24:36.560 things and showing the connections and how deeply entrenched all 1447 01:24:36.600 --> 01:24:39.640 the esoteric stuff is. And now it's more shifted to 1448 01:24:39.720 --> 01:24:43.000 the narrative of the battle of Western civilization with again 1449 01:24:43.119 --> 01:24:45.239 the power struggle of the old in the new world. 1450 01:24:45.760 --> 01:24:47.920 I have my own opinions on it. You can disagree 1451 01:24:47.960 --> 01:24:50.199 with them on it, but I do believe that that 1452 01:24:50.680 --> 01:24:54.000 power struggle in battle is reality, regardless if you choose 1453 01:24:54.119 --> 01:24:55.920 a side or reject both of them. 1454 01:24:57.159 --> 01:24:59.960 Very good Night is great information, and I want to 1455 01:25:00.119 --> 01:25:02.039 thank you again for coming on tonight. We're going to 1456 01:25:02.079 --> 01:25:04.720 have to have you back on tonight. I want to 1457 01:25:04.720 --> 01:25:08.760 welcome doctor Michael Salah. He is an internationally recognized scholar 1458 01:25:08.880 --> 01:25:13.680 in international politics, conflict resolution, and US foreign policy. He 1459 01:25:13.760 --> 01:25:16.840 has held academic appointments in the School of International Service 1460 01:25:16.880 --> 01:25:20.720 and the Center for Global Peace American University, the Department 1461 01:25:20.800 --> 01:25:25.079 of Political Science Australian National University, and the Elliott School 1462 01:25:25.119 --> 01:25:28.760 of International Affairs. He has a PhD in Government from 1463 01:25:28.760 --> 01:25:32.840 the University of Queensland, Australia. During his academic career, he 1464 01:25:33.000 --> 01:25:36.680 was the author editor of four books focusing on international politics. 1465 01:25:37.119 --> 01:25:41.159 He has conducted research and fieldwork into ethnic conflicts involving 1466 01:25:41.279 --> 01:25:45.560 East Timor, Kosovo, Macedonia, and Sri Lanka. He is more 1467 01:25:45.600 --> 01:25:49.239 popularly known as a pioneer in the development of exopolitics, 1468 01:25:49.439 --> 01:25:53.439 the study of the main actors, institutions, and political processes 1469 01:25:53.760 --> 01:25:57.520 associated with extraterrestrial life. He is the author of several 1470 01:25:57.560 --> 01:26:01.039 books and his Secret Space Program series. He's comprised four 1471 01:26:01.119 --> 01:26:06.199 books that investigated whistleblower and insider testimonies on multiple classified 1472 01:26:06.279 --> 01:26:10.399 space programs. All four have become number one Amazon bestsellers. 1473 01:26:10.760 --> 01:26:12.680 Doctor sala welcome, how are you doing tonight? 1474 01:26:13.479 --> 01:26:14.520 Good? Thanks for having me. 1475 01:26:15.199 --> 01:26:15.800 Thank you so much. 1476 01:26:15.840 --> 01:26:16.359 For joining us. 1477 01:26:16.399 --> 01:26:19.439 I've been looking forward to tonight. We're of course going 1478 01:26:19.520 --> 01:26:23.159 to get into exopolitics and how it relates to our 1479 01:26:23.279 --> 01:26:26.800 current global crisis. I'd also like to talk a little 1480 01:26:26.800 --> 01:26:30.079 bit about the Secret Space Program, get your insights into that, 1481 01:26:30.640 --> 01:26:34.640 and a little history of et human relations. But this 1482 01:26:34.840 --> 01:26:37.439 is your first time on I'd like to know what 1483 01:26:37.720 --> 01:26:43.520 got you started in ufology, secret Space program, and ultimately exopolitics. 1484 01:26:44.279 --> 01:26:48.319 Well, it actually really began when I started doing my 1485 01:26:48.600 --> 01:26:53.600 PhD research back in nineteen eighty nine. I was always 1486 01:26:53.720 --> 01:26:58.439 interested in international conflict. That was my specialty. So I 1487 01:26:58.640 --> 01:27:02.079 was very interested in what is it that drives international conflict? 1488 01:27:02.760 --> 01:27:05.119 And the more I studied that, the more interested I 1489 01:27:05.239 --> 01:27:11.520 became on the stories of these puppeteers or these secret 1490 01:27:11.640 --> 01:27:15.560 controllers pulling the strings of international conflict. Because at the 1491 01:27:15.680 --> 01:27:19.399 end of my career academic career, I'd reached a conclusion 1492 01:27:19.520 --> 01:27:23.159 that I was like the fireman running around furiously trying 1493 01:27:23.159 --> 01:27:25.520 to put out fires, when what I should have really 1494 01:27:25.600 --> 01:27:28.359 been doing was going out there trying to catch the arsonist. 1495 01:27:29.119 --> 01:27:31.880 And so that's really what happened to me. I changed 1496 01:27:31.920 --> 01:27:35.439 from being a kind of fireman into being an investigator, 1497 01:27:35.880 --> 01:27:41.439 into this secret cabal, this government, these puppeteers pulling the strings, 1498 01:27:42.119 --> 01:27:46.680 manipulating global actors at all levels of government. And so 1499 01:27:47.159 --> 01:27:51.600 that's when I became very interested in the whole exopolitics literature, 1500 01:27:52.319 --> 01:27:55.239 beginning in two thousand and one when I first came 1501 01:27:55.279 --> 01:28:01.159 across doctor Stephen Grigs Disclosure Project press conference, and I 1502 01:28:01.399 --> 01:28:04.279 realized that this actually would explain a lot of the 1503 01:28:04.399 --> 01:28:09.119 missing pieces in what it is that drives international conflict. 1504 01:28:09.239 --> 01:28:11.479 And the more I studied that, the more I was 1505 01:28:11.520 --> 01:28:13.680 able to put the pieces all together. So it's really 1506 01:28:13.760 --> 01:28:17.760 been a long kind of thirty year journey into understanding 1507 01:28:18.279 --> 01:28:22.680 international conflict and arriving at this position. Now it's all 1508 01:28:22.720 --> 01:28:33.520 about unmasking the puppeteers that manipulate major global institutions, political, economic, religious, 1509 01:28:33.960 --> 01:28:35.720 and cultural institutions. 1510 01:28:36.880 --> 01:28:41.279 Now I can imagine that the universities you were associated 1511 01:28:41.359 --> 01:28:45.800 with weren't too supportive of your new research choice. Am 1512 01:28:45.840 --> 01:28:47.880 I right and saying that, yeah, I. 1513 01:28:47.960 --> 01:28:50.760 Was basically forced out. I mean that's what happened in 1514 01:28:50.840 --> 01:28:55.479 two thousand and one when I first began to be 1515 01:28:55.960 --> 01:29:03.000 interested in this exopolitics UFO phenomenon, my university colleagues and 1516 01:29:03.159 --> 01:29:06.640 my superior would not support it at all, and they 1517 01:29:06.680 --> 01:29:09.880 made it very clear that if I continued this research 1518 01:29:10.319 --> 01:29:13.600 and if I made the university in any way look 1519 01:29:14.880 --> 01:29:17.600 bad in terms of what they considered to be bad, 1520 01:29:18.079 --> 01:29:20.960 then I would be forced out. And that's exactly what happened. 1521 01:29:21.159 --> 01:29:25.479 In two thousand and four, the Washington Post ran a 1522 01:29:25.600 --> 01:29:30.319 feature story on my research. And normally, to have the 1523 01:29:30.479 --> 01:29:35.239 Washington Post run a feature story on your research would 1524 01:29:35.279 --> 01:29:38.840 be like a great accomplishment in academia, but for me, 1525 01:29:38.960 --> 01:29:42.399 it was the exact opposite. I was warned the Washington 1526 01:29:42.520 --> 01:29:49.159 Post interviewed my university superiors, and I was told that, well, 1527 01:29:49.359 --> 01:29:52.520 if the Post came out with this story, then that 1528 01:29:52.640 --> 01:29:55.399 would be pretty much it. And that's what happened. The 1529 01:29:55.439 --> 01:29:58.840 Post did come out with the story. Just a few 1530 01:29:58.880 --> 01:30:01.920 weeks later, I was told that my position was being 1531 01:30:02.640 --> 01:30:08.960 summarily terminated. I would not be renewed at all at 1532 01:30:09.000 --> 01:30:10.439 the end of the academic year. 1533 01:30:10.359 --> 01:30:11.119 And so that was it. 1534 01:30:12.640 --> 01:30:12.880 Wow. 1535 01:30:13.359 --> 01:30:16.800 Now, for those that aren't familiar with the term, could 1536 01:30:16.880 --> 01:30:20.079 you just explain what exopolitics is? 1537 01:30:21.840 --> 01:30:28.319 Simply, it's looking at politics out from outside of the 1538 01:30:28.439 --> 01:30:32.800 conventional political spectrum in terms of looking at it in 1539 01:30:32.920 --> 01:30:38.119 terms of space. So you know, we have terms like exobiology, 1540 01:30:38.880 --> 01:30:42.000 or we have exo planetology, which is all about looking 1541 01:30:42.159 --> 01:30:46.560 at you know, an outside biology and extraterrestrial biology or 1542 01:30:46.600 --> 01:30:52.880 an outside our Solar system planets, you know, exo planetology. 1543 01:30:53.239 --> 01:30:57.000 And so exopolitics was pretty much the same, going outside 1544 01:30:57.039 --> 01:31:01.079 of the conventional political spectrum, which is kind of like 1545 01:31:01.399 --> 01:31:06.640 regional politics, comparative politics, global politics, and going beyond that 1546 01:31:06.880 --> 01:31:10.920 into exopolitics, looking at what is it that's happening outside 1547 01:31:10.960 --> 01:31:13.920 of our Earth, our planet, and even into the other 1548 01:31:14.039 --> 01:31:17.319 solar systems and so forth. So that's where exopolitics comes in. 1549 01:31:19.000 --> 01:31:22.600 Now when it comes to let's say the United States 1550 01:31:22.720 --> 01:31:27.880 involvement with UFOs and possible Black projects, secret space program, 1551 01:31:28.359 --> 01:31:31.159 do you think that it all kind of started around 1552 01:31:31.239 --> 01:31:34.920 the World War II era when with Project paper Clip 1553 01:31:35.520 --> 01:31:37.319 or do you think there was involvement before. 1554 01:31:38.840 --> 01:31:44.680 I definitely began during the Second World War. The Allied 1555 01:31:44.800 --> 01:31:50.760 Powers learned about Nazi Germany having achieved remarkable success in 1556 01:31:50.880 --> 01:31:54.920 building flying source of technologies, and that's irrefutable. I mean, 1557 01:31:54.960 --> 01:31:59.399 there's no doubt that Germany was working on flying source 1558 01:31:59.479 --> 01:32:02.279 of prototypl a number of different flying source of prototypes. 1559 01:32:02.600 --> 01:32:07.039 There's a lot of literature that even you have FBI sources, 1560 01:32:07.199 --> 01:32:12.600 CIA sources and incredible engineers and scientists after the Second 1561 01:32:12.640 --> 01:32:16.479 World War confirming that the Germans were working on flying 1562 01:32:16.560 --> 01:32:19.960 source of prototypes. The big debate is whether or not 1563 01:32:21.159 --> 01:32:27.720 Germany achieved any kind of like significant breakthroughs in these 1564 01:32:27.960 --> 01:32:30.920 reverse engineering programs and were able to take some of 1565 01:32:31.000 --> 01:32:34.199 those technologies out of Europe before the end of the 1566 01:32:34.239 --> 01:32:38.039 Second World War into places like South America and Antarctica 1567 01:32:38.359 --> 01:32:42.199 to continue their programs. A lot of people say no, no, 1568 01:32:42.640 --> 01:32:45.439 they just failed. It was like just a few prototypes 1569 01:32:46.079 --> 01:32:51.680 that they developed in Europe and these failed for various reasons, 1570 01:32:51.920 --> 01:32:55.000 whereas others say, no, they succeeded, and the most successful 1571 01:32:55.039 --> 01:32:58.800 prototypes they took with them out of Europe. So anyway, 1572 01:32:58.960 --> 01:33:02.560 what happened was that during the Second Wore War, the 1573 01:33:02.640 --> 01:33:07.119 Allied powers, especially the US Army and the US Navy, 1574 01:33:08.119 --> 01:33:12.159 learned that the Germans had achieved remarkable success. So they 1575 01:33:12.319 --> 01:33:17.760 sent teams into Germany at the end of the Second 1576 01:33:17.800 --> 01:33:22.279 Wore War to find out what the Germans had achieved 1577 01:33:22.359 --> 01:33:25.960 success in. And so those teams were called, well, the 1578 01:33:26.199 --> 01:33:31.319 US Army, its team was called the Operation Lusty, and 1579 01:33:31.439 --> 01:33:34.520 so Operation Lusty went in after the Second Wore War 1580 01:33:35.479 --> 01:33:40.239 came to an end, and they had teams of scientists 1581 01:33:40.800 --> 01:33:47.039 and Army specialists retrieving all of the advanced technologies that 1582 01:33:47.159 --> 01:33:51.159 the Germans were working on when it came to aerospace vehicles, 1583 01:33:51.399 --> 01:33:54.239 and the Navy did the same thing. They had their 1584 01:33:54.359 --> 01:33:57.079 own program, and so both the Army and the Navy 1585 01:33:57.199 --> 01:34:02.199 had separate programs to identify and retrieve any advanced flying 1586 01:34:02.239 --> 01:34:05.680 source of technologies as well as other jet propulsion and 1587 01:34:05.800 --> 01:34:09.119 rocket propelled technologies that the Germans had developed and bring 1588 01:34:09.199 --> 01:34:11.840 it all back into the United States. And that's when 1589 01:34:12.439 --> 01:34:15.840 the flying source of program really began in the United States. 1590 01:34:17.319 --> 01:34:22.560 Now, according to accounts from some researchers over the years, 1591 01:34:22.960 --> 01:34:29.479 that the German secret societies actually channeled this information about 1592 01:34:29.640 --> 01:34:33.680 originally to get this information about how to reverse engineer craft. 1593 01:34:34.199 --> 01:34:35.199 Is that something you'd agree with. 1594 01:34:36.479 --> 01:34:39.840 Yeah. At the very beginning, it was a civilian program 1595 01:34:40.399 --> 01:34:43.319 led by German secret societies, and they had mystics like 1596 01:34:43.479 --> 01:34:49.399 Maria Osich and others associated with the Full Society and 1597 01:34:49.720 --> 01:34:53.760 the Rural Society. Those were the two German secret societies 1598 01:34:53.760 --> 01:34:56.239 that were involved in and they were challenging They were 1599 01:34:56.359 --> 01:35:01.359 using psychic sources of information, and they achieved remarkable success, 1600 01:35:02.079 --> 01:35:06.359 so much so that by nineteen thirty three, when Hitler 1601 01:35:06.479 --> 01:35:12.439 came to power, he understood that the German secret societies 1602 01:35:12.640 --> 01:35:18.359 had been so successful in establishing these kinds of esoteric 1603 01:35:18.479 --> 01:35:23.479 sources of information and even developing a prototype flying saucer 1604 01:35:24.159 --> 01:35:31.239 using these psychic sources of information that Nazi Germany appropriated 1605 01:35:31.319 --> 01:35:33.640 that and put it all under the control of the 1606 01:35:33.760 --> 01:35:40.039 Nazi SS, and Heinrich Himmler then began to control these programs. 1607 01:35:40.439 --> 01:35:43.279 But in Nazi Germany there were always two programs. One 1608 01:35:43.479 --> 01:35:47.079 was controlled by the Nazi SS, which was trying to 1609 01:35:47.159 --> 01:35:52.359 weaponize this esoteric flying source of research technology for the 1610 01:35:52.439 --> 01:35:55.800 coming war effort, and another program, which was much more 1611 01:35:56.119 --> 01:35:59.960 a kind of esoteric German nationalist program trying to establish 1612 01:36:00.279 --> 01:36:04.880 clear lines of communication with this Aryan super race that 1613 01:36:05.119 --> 01:36:08.560 was located in the Alder Brown star system and in 1614 01:36:08.680 --> 01:36:11.680 the inner Earth regions of the planet. 1615 01:36:12.920 --> 01:36:14.640 So I think it's pretty safe to say, you know, 1616 01:36:14.760 --> 01:36:19.039 after World War Two, after Project paper Clip, NASA, the CIA, 1617 01:36:19.640 --> 01:36:22.319 various branches of the government, you know, we're pretty much 1618 01:36:22.439 --> 01:36:27.960 saturated with Nazis, and they're the ones that essentially run 1619 01:36:28.039 --> 01:36:29.720 our country now, Is that something you'd agree with? 1620 01:36:31.039 --> 01:36:34.079 Definitely. There was an Operation paper Clip, and of course 1621 01:36:34.640 --> 01:36:38.600 everyone knows that they're at least fifteen hundred German scientists 1622 01:36:38.680 --> 01:36:43.319 brought in to help the US rocket industry to take off. 1623 01:36:43.880 --> 01:36:46.880 But what was really happening was that these Operation paper 1624 01:36:46.920 --> 01:36:51.479 Clip scientists were a bridge to this breakaway German society 1625 01:36:51.680 --> 01:36:56.239 in Antarctica and to this fourth rich that had been 1626 01:36:56.319 --> 01:37:01.239 established in Latin America using all of this Nazi gold 1627 01:37:01.399 --> 01:37:03.479 that had been funneled out of Europe before the end 1628 01:37:03.520 --> 01:37:05.960 of the war, So that the Germans had set up 1629 01:37:06.000 --> 01:37:10.640 a fourth thrike that had economic clout through a transnational 1630 01:37:12.119 --> 01:37:17.840 grouping of corporations that were linked to German multinational groups 1631 01:37:18.399 --> 01:37:24.520 as well as this breakaway group in Antarctica. So they 1632 01:37:24.640 --> 01:37:28.520 had achieved a remarkable success with that, and so they 1633 01:37:28.560 --> 01:37:34.119 were able to use that base to infiltrate the US 1634 01:37:35.039 --> 01:37:39.680 military industrial complex. So by the nineteen fifties they had 1635 01:37:39.760 --> 01:37:45.000 become so successful that they began to take over a 1636 01:37:45.079 --> 01:37:49.119 lot of top aerospace companies. And this is documented. I mean, 1637 01:37:49.159 --> 01:37:53.239 there are many many stories of how German scientists came 1638 01:37:53.479 --> 01:37:57.439 in under Operation paper Clip and were given seeing a 1639 01:37:57.560 --> 01:38:05.560 positions in aerospace companies, in US national laboratories in Nassa 1640 01:38:06.960 --> 01:38:12.159 with kind of minimal security vetting at all, whereas American 1641 01:38:12.239 --> 01:38:17.520 scientists had all of these really stringent security tests imposed 1642 01:38:17.560 --> 01:38:20.359 on them. And the reason was that the Germans were 1643 01:38:20.359 --> 01:38:23.119 given leadership positions. And this is a fact if you 1644 01:38:23.159 --> 01:38:25.920 look at the Marshall's Space Flight Center that was set 1645 01:38:26.000 --> 01:38:28.880 up for the Nassau Pollar program, that was run by 1646 01:38:29.079 --> 01:38:34.039 German Verner von Braun and his and other Germans that 1647 01:38:34.319 --> 01:38:37.880 had worked with him in the V two rocket program 1648 01:38:38.479 --> 01:38:42.880 in Nazi Germany. And also the Kennedy Space Center was 1649 01:38:42.960 --> 01:38:46.640 run by another German doctor, Klerk Deboose, which was also 1650 01:38:46.720 --> 01:38:49.520 who was also another former Nazi. So when you look 1651 01:38:49.560 --> 01:38:53.720 at this, it's very clear that the Apollo program was 1652 01:38:53.840 --> 01:38:57.000 being run by Germans and the real program, the real 1653 01:38:57.319 --> 01:39:00.079 goal was, and I described this in my book The 1654 01:39:00.199 --> 01:39:04.720 USA for Secret Space Program, the real goal of Apollo 1655 01:39:04.880 --> 01:39:07.199 was not to get Americans to the Moon, which it did. 1656 01:39:07.800 --> 01:39:11.600 The real program was to get Germans to Mars and 1657 01:39:11.680 --> 01:39:15.760 Alpha Centauri. And that's the real story of the Apollo program. 1658 01:39:16.119 --> 01:39:20.199 It funneled billions of dollars to South America and Antarctica 1659 01:39:21.239 --> 01:39:25.079 with resources and manpower, so that the Germans could build 1660 01:39:25.199 --> 01:39:27.920 a colony on Mars which could then be used for 1661 01:39:28.039 --> 01:39:32.520 deep space operations and establishing colonies elsewhere outside of our 1662 01:39:32.600 --> 01:39:33.279 Solar system. 1663 01:39:34.600 --> 01:39:36.560 Now, I want to get to that soon, but first 1664 01:39:36.600 --> 01:39:38.920 I want to talk about Antarctica since you mentioned it. 1665 01:39:40.159 --> 01:39:42.479 Do you think that Antarctica used to be in our 1666 01:39:42.520 --> 01:39:48.279 ancient past the home of advanced civilizations, possibly that there 1667 01:39:48.359 --> 01:39:52.800 may have been extraterrestrial involvement that started in Antarctica. It 1668 01:39:52.960 --> 01:39:56.000 used to be tropical or subtropical. What are your thoughts 1669 01:39:56.000 --> 01:39:56.319 about that? 1670 01:39:58.119 --> 01:40:02.680 Yes, I think Antarctica we know that it was at 1671 01:40:02.760 --> 01:40:05.960 one point in its history free of ice. So there's 1672 01:40:06.000 --> 01:40:12.720 a really good book by a couple, Rand flem Ath 1673 01:40:13.279 --> 01:40:17.159 and his wife Rose. They wrote a book called Antarctica. 1674 01:40:18.239 --> 01:40:23.119 They called it Atlantis under the Ice, and that book 1675 01:40:23.399 --> 01:40:31.319 really describes how Antarctica during earlier pollships was ice free 1676 01:40:31.920 --> 01:40:34.960 and that during successive pollships. And they map out the 1677 01:40:35.079 --> 01:40:41.000 relative position of Antarctica around ninety thousand BC, around fifty 1678 01:40:41.039 --> 01:40:46.039 thousand BC, and around eleven thy seven hundred BC based 1679 01:40:46.079 --> 01:40:50.359 on historical records that show that Antarctica for those periods 1680 01:40:50.760 --> 01:40:55.439 was largely free of ice, especially the kind of the 1681 01:40:56.399 --> 01:41:00.560 Palmer Peninsula of Antarctica was ice free throughout that entire history, 1682 01:41:00.920 --> 01:41:05.760 and that matches with Plato's description of Atlantis and that 1683 01:41:06.000 --> 01:41:10.800 around nine thousand, six hundred BC was when you had 1684 01:41:10.880 --> 01:41:17.159 this catastrophic set of disasters that led to the flooding 1685 01:41:17.920 --> 01:41:21.720 of Antarctica, and that matches with what we know of 1686 01:41:21.880 --> 01:41:25.800 the end of the last ice Age, the so called 1687 01:41:26.279 --> 01:41:28.920 end of the Younger Driest period, when there was a 1688 01:41:29.079 --> 01:41:33.000 rapid change in the Earth's temperatures and where there was 1689 01:41:33.560 --> 01:41:38.119 a warming in places like Greenland, and that's because there 1690 01:41:38.199 --> 01:41:43.319 was a pole shift, and so Antarctica moved into its 1691 01:41:43.359 --> 01:41:49.239 present location just directly over the south pole, whereas Greenland 1692 01:41:49.720 --> 01:41:54.479 moved from the Northern Arctic region into a kind of 1693 01:41:54.880 --> 01:41:58.479 slightly more temperate region where there was a substantial increase 1694 01:41:58.560 --> 01:42:01.840 in temperature. And so that's that was the end of 1695 01:42:01.880 --> 01:42:06.399 the Younger Dryest period, and Plato described it perfectly as 1696 01:42:06.439 --> 01:42:12.279 a great flood submerging the island continent of Atlantis. So yeah, 1697 01:42:12.319 --> 01:42:16.239 there's a record showing that Atlantis was ice free, and 1698 01:42:16.319 --> 01:42:19.600 so that means now submerged under the ice are the 1699 01:42:19.760 --> 01:42:24.279 remnants of this flash rows and civilization that was buried 1700 01:42:24.439 --> 01:42:28.000 under all of the ice sheets after a very rapid 1701 01:42:28.079 --> 01:42:28.680 pull shift. 1702 01:42:29.840 --> 01:42:33.079 Now I know there's speculation that there may be massive 1703 01:42:33.159 --> 01:42:37.199 ships under the ace artifacts like you were talking about 1704 01:42:37.239 --> 01:42:40.439 remnants of an advanced civilization. Do you think there is 1705 01:42:40.560 --> 01:42:45.319 still active activity going on with possible remnants of this 1706 01:42:45.720 --> 01:42:47.960 civilization still going on today? 1707 01:42:49.479 --> 01:42:52.319 Yes, definitely. You know, what we need to keep in 1708 01:42:52.399 --> 01:42:57.399 mind is that this is not an isolated situation where 1709 01:42:58.119 --> 01:43:01.960 there are multiple sources talking about around eleven thousand and 1710 01:43:02.039 --> 01:43:07.199 six hundred BC or six hundred years ago that there 1711 01:43:07.359 --> 01:43:10.720 was this catastrophic set of disasters. These occur on a 1712 01:43:11.279 --> 01:43:16.560 periodics cycle, and what happens is that you have advanced 1713 01:43:16.640 --> 01:43:23.039 civilizations that at the end of an era recognize that 1714 01:43:23.359 --> 01:43:26.840 something major is about to happen, and because they've achieved 1715 01:43:26.880 --> 01:43:34.000 a certain level of technological sophistication, which typically is restricted 1716 01:43:34.079 --> 01:43:38.079 to the elites of that society, they're able to escape 1717 01:43:38.159 --> 01:43:41.960 the cataclysms and they go either underground or they go 1718 01:43:42.159 --> 01:43:45.159 off planet. And so what we have, and this is 1719 01:43:45.239 --> 01:43:50.279 not just Atlantis and Greece. We're talking about China, India, 1720 01:43:51.079 --> 01:43:55.960 South America, many many stories of prior civilizations are going 1721 01:43:56.159 --> 01:44:03.119 underground to escape these cataclysmic events and elites taking with 1722 01:44:03.279 --> 01:44:06.680 them advanced technologies. So this has happened again and again, 1723 01:44:07.119 --> 01:44:10.720 and I think what we have in places like Antarctica 1724 01:44:11.680 --> 01:44:17.000 the remnants of these ancient civilizations who thrive in these 1725 01:44:17.199 --> 01:44:21.279 deep underground caverns, some of which are massive. I mean, 1726 01:44:21.920 --> 01:44:24.359 the descriptions of some of these caverns are that they 1727 01:44:24.399 --> 01:44:27.600 are like as big as the state of Texas. They 1728 01:44:27.640 --> 01:44:31.359 are just massive caverns, and so you can locate an 1729 01:44:31.600 --> 01:44:35.199 entire civilization down there. Because we've got to remember that 1730 01:44:35.359 --> 01:44:40.920 the Earth's crust is over one hundred miles thick, and 1731 01:44:41.079 --> 01:44:43.720 so anywhere in that one hundred miles of thickness, you 1732 01:44:43.800 --> 01:44:46.760 could have vast pockets, so that the Earth's crust is 1733 01:44:46.880 --> 01:44:49.359 like a honeycomb, and so you could have in that 1734 01:44:49.520 --> 01:44:55.199 honeycomb earth model, you can have vast cavern systems kind 1735 01:44:55.199 --> 01:44:59.119 of like existing underneath one another. And this is where 1736 01:45:00.079 --> 01:45:05.920 we can have, like historically, many many different civilizations existing 1737 01:45:06.079 --> 01:45:08.640 under the Earth. And that's what I think is happening 1738 01:45:08.760 --> 01:45:11.920 under the ice sheets of Antarctica now. 1739 01:45:12.039 --> 01:45:15.479 Earlier when you were mentioning our secret space program and 1740 01:45:15.520 --> 01:45:18.680 some of the operations. Have you talked about that we 1741 01:45:18.800 --> 01:45:23.000 have operations currently on Mars and the Moon. How far 1742 01:45:23.159 --> 01:45:26.119 do you think the secret space program goes? Are we 1743 01:45:26.279 --> 01:45:28.560 reaching outside our Solar system and beyond? 1744 01:45:29.239 --> 01:45:30.520 Have we gotten that far? 1745 01:45:32.640 --> 01:45:32.840 Well? 1746 01:45:33.079 --> 01:45:36.600 Yes, I think when we're talking about secret space programs, 1747 01:45:36.680 --> 01:45:38.479 we need to keep in mind that there are multiple 1748 01:45:38.640 --> 01:45:39.880 secret space programs. 1749 01:45:39.920 --> 01:45:40.079 Here. 1750 01:45:41.399 --> 01:45:46.840 The German Breakaway program that was established in Antarctica that 1751 01:45:47.439 --> 01:45:50.479 I was able to establish colonies on Mars and then 1752 01:45:51.039 --> 01:45:55.239 establish a presence outside of our solar system. Later on, 1753 01:45:55.600 --> 01:46:00.359 the US Navy was able to begin to replicate, and 1754 01:46:00.520 --> 01:46:04.600 by the nineteen late nineteen seventies early nineteen eighties, the 1755 01:46:04.720 --> 01:46:09.359 Navy was able to build deep space battle fleets. And 1756 01:46:09.880 --> 01:46:14.760 according to several sources that I've worked with, probably the 1757 01:46:14.840 --> 01:46:19.920 most well known is William Tompkins, who has talked about 1758 01:46:20.239 --> 01:46:24.880 his experiences in helping set up a Navy secret space program. 1759 01:46:25.239 --> 01:46:29.520 He talked about eight space battlegroups that the Navy established 1760 01:46:29.560 --> 01:46:33.039 in the late seventies and early eighties, and this has 1761 01:46:33.159 --> 01:46:38.800 been cooperated by other insiders. And these battlegroups operate in 1762 01:46:39.000 --> 01:46:43.399 deep space and outside of our Solar system. And so 1763 01:46:43.600 --> 01:46:46.600 those are the two that I know of that are 1764 01:46:46.800 --> 01:46:51.000 most active outside of our solar system, the German dark 1765 01:46:51.119 --> 01:46:55.359 Fleet and also the Navy's a solar warden program. You know, 1766 01:46:55.439 --> 01:46:57.920 there are other space programs that have been established, but 1767 01:46:57.920 --> 01:47:00.880 I don't think any of those are as well established 1768 01:47:01.079 --> 01:47:07.399 or as technologically sophisticated as as the German and the 1769 01:47:07.520 --> 01:47:08.359 Navy's program. 1770 01:47:09.640 --> 01:47:12.920 Now, I've interviewed quite a few people about the secret 1771 01:47:12.960 --> 01:47:17.279 space program, including whistleblowers that have climed to have been 1772 01:47:17.439 --> 01:47:21.479 super soldiers in the program. Now, according to their testimony, 1773 01:47:21.680 --> 01:47:25.439 one of the ways to get to these destinations like 1774 01:47:25.520 --> 01:47:29.079 the Moon or Mars would be a consciousness transfer. And 1775 01:47:29.159 --> 01:47:32.800 then there's also this jump room. Are you familiar with 1776 01:47:32.880 --> 01:47:34.439 this and could you talk about that a little bit. 1777 01:47:35.560 --> 01:47:39.039 Yeah, Well, that's really interesting exactly how it is that 1778 01:47:39.199 --> 01:47:44.640 this twenty em back reverse aging process works and how 1779 01:47:44.680 --> 01:47:49.479 these insiders can do these terms, multiple terms of twenty 1780 01:47:49.600 --> 01:47:51.319 years and then come back. 1781 01:47:52.000 --> 01:47:52.159 You know. 1782 01:47:52.319 --> 01:47:55.319 One idea is that they kind of like physically go 1783 01:47:55.560 --> 01:47:58.560 out there, they do their term of service, and then 1784 01:47:58.600 --> 01:48:02.880 they're physically aged, rest and then put back in time 1785 01:48:03.479 --> 01:48:05.760 to when they first set off and they kind of 1786 01:48:05.840 --> 01:48:09.079 like relive that twenty years again. Another model is that 1787 01:48:09.239 --> 01:48:12.840 their consciousness is taken out of their body, and it's 1788 01:48:12.920 --> 01:48:15.960 kind of like borrowed where for twenty years they're put 1789 01:48:16.000 --> 01:48:19.800 into some cloned version and then they go out there 1790 01:48:19.840 --> 01:48:22.119 and they do their twenty and backs, you know, multiple 1791 01:48:22.159 --> 01:48:24.439 twenty and backs even and then at the end of 1792 01:48:24.479 --> 01:48:27.039 that they're put back in their body. Their consciousness is 1793 01:48:27.079 --> 01:48:29.560 put back into their body. So when they wake up, 1794 01:48:30.840 --> 01:48:34.720 they have their original body, you know, at sixteen seventeen 1795 01:48:34.800 --> 01:48:37.520 years of age, that that hasn't changed, that hasn't been 1796 01:48:37.600 --> 01:48:40.039 used for anything, just that their consciousness has gone out 1797 01:48:40.079 --> 01:48:42.359 and done this. So, you know, those are the two models, 1798 01:48:42.720 --> 01:48:46.359 and both of them work for some people. You know, 1799 01:48:46.520 --> 01:48:50.560 one makes more sense than the other, and certainly we 1800 01:48:50.720 --> 01:48:53.880 need to have an open mind as to whether either 1801 01:48:53.960 --> 01:48:55.920 of these is more valid than the other, or whether 1802 01:48:56.039 --> 01:48:58.720 both could be working at the same time. But certainly, 1803 01:48:58.800 --> 01:49:03.319 the idea of being able to take our consciousness, our 1804 01:49:03.439 --> 01:49:06.439 soul matrix, out of this physical body and put it 1805 01:49:06.560 --> 01:49:10.680 into another body for an extended period of time while 1806 01:49:10.720 --> 01:49:14.039 the original body is kept in some kind of stasis 1807 01:49:15.239 --> 01:49:18.800 is something that's very very possible, and I've come across 1808 01:49:18.840 --> 01:49:21.560 a few people that verify this has been going on 1809 01:49:21.680 --> 01:49:22.359 for a long time. 1810 01:49:24.000 --> 01:49:28.159 What races or what kinds of extraterrestrials do you think 1811 01:49:28.239 --> 01:49:32.199 that we're directly involved with with the secret space program 1812 01:49:32.720 --> 01:49:36.680 or have been in contact with us in modern history. 1813 01:49:38.520 --> 01:49:41.439 Well, the ones that we know the most about, you know, 1814 01:49:41.600 --> 01:49:47.159 based on different insiders and witnesses contact, these experiences and 1815 01:49:47.239 --> 01:49:54.159 so forth, are typically the gray extraterrestrials, the human looking extraterrestrials, 1816 01:49:55.079 --> 01:50:00.119 the reptilian extraterrestrials. And then you have the insectoid, the 1817 01:50:00.199 --> 01:50:05.119 praying mantis looking extraterrestrials, and and they appear to have 1818 01:50:05.319 --> 01:50:10.119 different agendas. They often operate in opposition to one another 1819 01:50:12.000 --> 01:50:16.560 now and that and that means that they have different agendas. 1820 01:50:17.600 --> 01:50:22.880 We do know that the gray and the reptilian extraterrestrials 1821 01:50:22.920 --> 01:50:27.439 in particular have been helping the US Air Force's secret 1822 01:50:27.520 --> 01:50:30.920 space program, and we're helping the German secret space program. 1823 01:50:31.520 --> 01:50:31.640 Uh. 1824 01:50:31.800 --> 01:50:35.159 And then you have the human looking extraterrestrials having helped 1825 01:50:35.359 --> 01:50:39.359 the Navy's secret space program as well as having helped 1826 01:50:39.680 --> 01:50:45.119 the original German esoteric nationalist space program as it was 1827 01:50:45.239 --> 01:50:51.199 set up, and that never really stopped operating. So, so 1828 01:50:52.000 --> 01:50:55.199 what you essentially have is almost like a proxy war 1829 01:50:55.399 --> 01:50:59.319 happening between these different groups of extraterrestrials that that help 1830 01:51:00.119 --> 01:51:05.399 try and pull a society in their unpreferred directions. So 1831 01:51:05.520 --> 01:51:09.520 you had this happening in Nazi Germany and the Weimau 1832 01:51:09.640 --> 01:51:12.640 Republic during the nineteen twenties and early thirties, and then 1833 01:51:12.680 --> 01:51:15.199 you had the same thing happening in the United States 1834 01:51:16.520 --> 01:51:17.680 after the Second World War. 1835 01:51:19.520 --> 01:51:24.119 Now, when I look at different accounts of abductions, people 1836 01:51:24.760 --> 01:51:28.399 talking about hybrid programs that they've been taking on ships, 1837 01:51:28.439 --> 01:51:31.760 and they've met hybrid children of theirs, all these different 1838 01:51:31.800 --> 01:51:35.000 experiments I hear about, and then we look at different 1839 01:51:35.479 --> 01:51:40.680 contact accounts throughout history, it seems like these extraterrestrials, if 1840 01:51:40.760 --> 01:51:44.479 that's what they are, interdimensional, whatever they are, that they 1841 01:51:45.119 --> 01:51:48.520 from from my view, that we're some sort of experiment 1842 01:51:48.720 --> 01:51:52.600 and we always have been, and they have their ways 1843 01:51:52.680 --> 01:51:56.199 of steering society, steering the world in a certain direction. 1844 01:51:56.479 --> 01:51:57.720 Do you see it that way as well? 1845 01:51:59.119 --> 01:51:59.319 Yeah? 1846 01:51:59.399 --> 01:51:59.560 I do. 1847 01:51:59.680 --> 01:52:03.359 Actually, this is something that it's taken me a long 1848 01:52:03.520 --> 01:52:05.560 time to kind of work that out, and there are different, 1849 01:52:06.039 --> 01:52:10.840 multiple sources that paint this picture. I was first told 1850 01:52:10.840 --> 01:52:13.760 about this from a contact d by the name of 1851 01:52:13.840 --> 01:52:16.960 Alex Collier who talked about twenty two different genetic long 1852 01:52:17.039 --> 01:52:20.720 term experiments. You have people like Zechariah Sitchen. There's another 1853 01:52:22.199 --> 01:52:24.319 scholar by the name of Arthur Horn who wrote a 1854 01:52:24.359 --> 01:52:30.520 book called Humanities Extraterrestrial Origins actually that something along those lines, 1855 01:52:30.920 --> 01:52:33.960 but essentially saying that if you go back far enough 1856 01:52:34.000 --> 01:52:36.560 in history, and it seems that five hundred thousand years 1857 01:52:36.920 --> 01:52:39.960 is the starting point, that there were a series of 1858 01:52:40.239 --> 01:52:46.680 extraterrestrial interventions whereas many as twenty two different extraterrestrial long 1859 01:52:46.800 --> 01:52:50.720 term genetic experiments were put in place. And so you've 1860 01:52:50.760 --> 01:52:54.319 had like between forty to different forty to sixty different 1861 01:52:54.399 --> 01:52:58.760 extraterstrial civilizations coming in and collaborating with one another and 1862 01:52:58.840 --> 01:53:04.039 putting together these what today exists as twenty two long 1863 01:53:04.159 --> 01:53:08.800 term genetic experiments, where all of the different major racial 1864 01:53:09.560 --> 01:53:14.039 groups on the planet are a result of these different 1865 01:53:14.159 --> 01:53:18.079 genetic experiments. And to me, that makes a lot of sense. 1866 01:53:18.279 --> 01:53:22.479 It kind of like explains the great variation in human 1867 01:53:23.640 --> 01:53:30.600 abilities and diversity, and of course the very different kind 1868 01:53:30.640 --> 01:53:36.359 of like ethnic physiologies that we witness. But yet you know, 1869 01:53:36.479 --> 01:53:40.840 we are all like one human genotype when you kind 1870 01:53:40.880 --> 01:53:43.560 of look at the basic physiology of us. 1871 01:53:45.119 --> 01:53:46.800 Yeah, and when you know, when you look at the 1872 01:53:47.159 --> 01:53:49.680 people in power that have always been in power on 1873 01:53:49.840 --> 01:53:54.560 our planet, these elite people that have always had this 1874 01:53:54.760 --> 01:53:58.399 divine right to rule, do you think that they have 1875 01:53:58.680 --> 01:54:02.520 actual a blome blood line that is possibly off planet 1876 01:54:03.159 --> 01:54:07.399 or some kind of extraterrestrial bloodline that they want to 1877 01:54:07.520 --> 01:54:08.560 keep in power. 1878 01:54:10.000 --> 01:54:12.800 Definitely. I think that's what's going on. When we look 1879 01:54:12.840 --> 01:54:19.439 at ancient books like or texts like the Sumerian King's List, 1880 01:54:19.720 --> 01:54:23.880 or we look at Benetho's History of ancient Egypt, we 1881 01:54:24.039 --> 01:54:28.479 see they describe errors where first there was direct rule 1882 01:54:28.560 --> 01:54:32.159 by the gods, which today we would regard as extraterrestrials. 1883 01:54:32.239 --> 01:54:35.239 Then there was the rule by the demigods, which were 1884 01:54:35.279 --> 01:54:43.920 the hybrids offspring of these extraterrestrials and human females. And 1885 01:54:44.079 --> 01:54:50.560 then you had the rule by humans who justified their 1886 01:54:50.760 --> 01:54:54.720 rule on the divine right of kings that they were 1887 01:54:55.359 --> 01:54:58.119 directly connected to the gods. And so I think that's 1888 01:54:58.199 --> 01:55:01.640 when you actually had the ruling blood lying families taking 1889 01:55:01.720 --> 01:55:07.199 off that these are groups of elites that trace their 1890 01:55:07.359 --> 01:55:14.840 ancestry to these hybrid offshoots of these ancient god extraterrestrial 1891 01:55:15.000 --> 01:55:18.920 rulers that at one point far enough in our history 1892 01:55:19.479 --> 01:55:23.760 ruled all over you, all humanity. And so this is 1893 01:55:23.800 --> 01:55:28.000 why I think these ruling blooded families believe that they 1894 01:55:28.039 --> 01:55:32.920 are entitled to secretly manipulate and control humanity, because they 1895 01:55:33.039 --> 01:55:36.079 say that, you know, when you look at the way 1896 01:55:36.279 --> 01:55:41.079 human affairs are run today, it's total chaos. That things 1897 01:55:41.159 --> 01:55:43.960 were much better when you actually had the wreck rule 1898 01:55:44.359 --> 01:55:46.680 by the gods, and so we want to restore that. 1899 01:55:47.479 --> 01:55:50.279 And so that's how they justify what they're doing to 1900 01:55:50.399 --> 01:55:56.399 try and bring about to restore this ancient rule by extraterrestrials. 1901 01:55:56.720 --> 01:55:59.439 And I think this is something we are in the 1902 01:55:59.520 --> 01:56:04.840 midst of witnessing with the possibility of another pole shift, 1903 01:56:05.720 --> 01:56:11.199 Antarctica becoming again ice free, and a lot of the 1904 01:56:11.319 --> 01:56:17.520 buried artifacts they're re emerging, and these alleged statis chambers 1905 01:56:19.359 --> 01:56:23.760 becoming going online again, where the beings or the gods 1906 01:56:24.319 --> 01:56:28.239 as they were known, are become free. And we're talking 1907 01:56:28.279 --> 01:56:32.000 about giants, we're talking about nephyline, We're talking about beings 1908 01:56:32.039 --> 01:56:36.279 that look human but can be like anywhere from twelve 1909 01:56:36.439 --> 01:56:40.800 to twenty feet high and they believe themselves to be 1910 01:56:41.000 --> 01:56:45.199 the revine rulers of humanity, and you have these ruling 1911 01:56:45.279 --> 01:56:49.600 bloodline families that want to basically hand over political power 1912 01:56:50.000 --> 01:56:53.439 to these ancient gods or offsprings of the gods. 1913 01:56:54.760 --> 01:56:59.199 When you look at the elite power structure, the Vatican 1914 01:56:59.279 --> 01:57:02.399 and the royal family has always usually first looked at 1915 01:57:02.920 --> 01:57:04.880 to be at the top of the pyramid or towards 1916 01:57:04.960 --> 01:57:07.720 the top. Would you agree with that? And do you 1917 01:57:07.840 --> 01:57:14.880 think that the Vatican actually has possible extraterrestrials that they 1918 01:57:15.039 --> 01:57:19.800 keep there, because I've heard, you know, some researchers talk 1919 01:57:19.880 --> 01:57:23.319 about that and there's a speculation that they're actually housing 1920 01:57:24.600 --> 01:57:27.760 these ancient extraterrestrials. What are your thoughts on that. 1921 01:57:29.560 --> 01:57:32.319 Well, the thing about the Vatican is that it is 1922 01:57:32.399 --> 01:57:38.239 a religious institution, but it also has an academy of sciences. 1923 01:57:38.720 --> 01:57:44.439 And the Vatican has always pursued this dual process of 1924 01:57:44.960 --> 01:57:51.680 trying to practice their religious faith along with scientific exploration 1925 01:57:51.960 --> 01:57:56.840 and combine the two in their elite institutions. So if 1926 01:57:56.880 --> 01:58:03.760 you look at the organizations like the Jesuits and other 1927 01:58:04.199 --> 01:58:08.439 orders like the Benedictine Monks, Dominicans and so forth, secretly 1928 01:58:08.720 --> 01:58:15.039 these groups always combined the esoteric with the latest scientific advances, 1929 01:58:15.560 --> 01:58:18.840 and so that's why they were able to continue to 1930 01:58:18.960 --> 01:58:25.359 do breakthrough scientific research in their secret Vatican facilities, the 1931 01:58:25.520 --> 01:58:31.760 laboratories and so forth, whereas mainstream scientific institutions practiced this 1932 01:58:31.920 --> 01:58:35.399 separation of church and state, and that was a great mistake. 1933 01:58:35.560 --> 01:58:42.520 While on the one hand it was understandable there was 1934 01:58:42.680 --> 01:58:49.079 this kind of like unnecessary bifurcation of science and religious religion, 1935 01:58:49.479 --> 01:58:53.640 and this was something that the German esotoric societies understood 1936 01:58:54.319 --> 01:58:57.960 after the First World War that in order to make breakthrough, 1937 01:58:58.840 --> 01:59:05.119 great breakthroughs in understanding ancient technologies and being able to 1938 01:59:05.720 --> 01:59:09.439 develop these advanced technologies to take us into the stars, 1939 01:59:09.800 --> 01:59:15.720 you needed to combine science and religion, or science and 1940 01:59:15.800 --> 01:59:19.600 spirituality is probably a better combination. And so the Germans 1941 01:59:19.640 --> 01:59:24.039 were able to do that, whereas Western scientific institutions even 1942 01:59:24.079 --> 01:59:28.319 to this day continue this separation, but the Vatican never did. 1943 01:59:28.680 --> 01:59:31.800 The Vatican who has always continued to do this separation. 1944 01:59:32.359 --> 01:59:37.199 And so when you look at time travel technologies, Vatican 1945 01:59:37.359 --> 01:59:43.000 scientists are at the forefront of that, and there's research 1946 01:59:43.239 --> 01:59:50.960 showing this. Father Father Palegrini, Pellegrini and Netti is one 1947 01:59:51.239 --> 01:59:53.960 of the Vatican scientists who in the nineteen fifties and 1948 01:59:54.039 --> 01:59:58.479 nineteen sixties developed Project looking Glass Technology, which was a 1949 01:59:58.840 --> 02:00:02.119 which was basically look at time travel, being able to 1950 02:00:02.359 --> 02:00:08.479 utilize time travel principles through resident frequencies, benedicting, chanting, and 1951 02:00:08.640 --> 02:00:12.800 so forth. So the Vatican understands that there is a 1952 02:00:12.960 --> 02:00:19.479 very close relationship between harmonic resonance, spirituality, faith and science, 1953 02:00:20.279 --> 02:00:23.840 and so the Vatican really is at the leading edge. 1954 02:00:24.319 --> 02:00:28.239 And so this is why when you look at the 1955 02:00:29.760 --> 02:00:37.000 black programs that combine scientific research with trying to reverse 1956 02:00:37.079 --> 02:00:43.239 engineer extraterstrial technologies, you see Vatican scientists involved because they 1957 02:00:43.399 --> 02:00:48.119 bring in a very different mindset and they have continued 1958 02:00:48.159 --> 02:00:51.520 to work very closely with extraterrestrials themselves. 1959 02:00:53.039 --> 02:00:56.319 Now, if we look at our planet as if it 1960 02:00:56.439 --> 02:00:59.840 were an experiment and we are being steered by off 1961 02:01:00.000 --> 02:01:04.560 planet controllers, what do you think is the agenda? Are 1962 02:01:04.680 --> 02:01:09.119 multiple agendas happening right now? It seems as soon as 1963 02:01:09.159 --> 02:01:12.279 twenty twenty hit that all of a sudden, you know, 1964 02:01:12.399 --> 02:01:15.039 our world changed. We have all these agendas at play 1965 02:01:15.159 --> 02:01:20.720 because of supposedly a virus. But now when you go 1966 02:01:20.800 --> 02:01:24.600 outside the world's a completely different place. Everyone's wearing masks, 1967 02:01:25.119 --> 02:01:29.279 the economy is falling apart. Globally, we're seeing all these changes. 1968 02:01:29.319 --> 02:01:33.199 We're seeing all this integration with technology. This new technology 1969 02:01:33.279 --> 02:01:35.479 is coming out. We're going to see the Internet of things, 1970 02:01:36.640 --> 02:01:39.800 humans being integrated with technology, and it all seems to 1971 02:01:39.880 --> 02:01:45.119 be being steered in this direction that researchers like myself 1972 02:01:45.159 --> 02:01:48.119 have been looking at for years and saying, Wow, it's 1973 02:01:48.159 --> 02:01:50.800 actually happening now. So what are your thoughts on how 1974 02:01:50.880 --> 02:01:53.079 this all connects on what's happening right now? 1975 02:01:54.319 --> 02:01:57.600 Well, we are really at this kind of critical juncture 1976 02:01:57.920 --> 02:02:00.880 in our history as a species. I really think that 1977 02:02:01.000 --> 02:02:05.000 this coming election twenty twenty is really going to determine 1978 02:02:05.159 --> 02:02:07.319 not only the future of the United States as a 1979 02:02:07.399 --> 02:02:11.359 republic as a sovereign entity in global affairs, but also 1980 02:02:11.439 --> 02:02:14.720 the future of the planet. I believe that depending on 1981 02:02:14.840 --> 02:02:17.640 who wins or the outcome of the election, and there 1982 02:02:17.760 --> 02:02:22.359 really are multiple scenarios emerging here with the election, probably 1983 02:02:22.600 --> 02:02:27.960 the optimal scenario is that you actually have the white 1984 02:02:28.000 --> 02:02:32.000 hats ensuring that there is a fair, a clean and 1985 02:02:32.119 --> 02:02:39.439 fair election, and that the technology will be revealed, the 1986 02:02:39.560 --> 02:02:43.159 advanced aerospace technologies will be revealed in a second Trump 1987 02:02:43.199 --> 02:02:47.640 administration through Space Force, because I think Space Force is 1988 02:02:47.680 --> 02:02:51.920 a disclosure initiative. It was set up to make it 1989 02:02:52.119 --> 02:02:56.119 possible for the release of these advanced aerospace technologies that 1990 02:02:56.720 --> 02:02:59.880 were secretly developed and deployed going all the way back 1991 02:03:00.079 --> 02:03:03.119 to the sixties and the seventies. So they want to 1992 02:03:03.199 --> 02:03:05.319 release these and the way to do it is to 1993 02:03:05.439 --> 02:03:08.600 do it through Space Force, which is a new military service, 1994 02:03:08.880 --> 02:03:12.079 and Space Force can can simply say these are our 1995 02:03:12.199 --> 02:03:17.119 newly acquired acquisitions. These are incredibly new, powerful technologies, and 1996 02:03:17.239 --> 02:03:20.159 we want to share these with the planet and help 1997 02:03:20.199 --> 02:03:25.520 American industry start to reverse engineer these for the general public, 1998 02:03:25.560 --> 02:03:30.640 and Space Force can unveil these technologies without any questions 1999 02:03:30.720 --> 02:03:32.560 being asked in terms of well, you know, this is 2000 02:03:32.680 --> 02:03:36.880 like this technology is very old, because Space Force leaders 2001 02:03:37.000 --> 02:03:38.680 can say, well, you know, we're a new service, these 2002 02:03:38.680 --> 02:03:41.520 are new technologies. But on the other hand, you have 2003 02:03:41.640 --> 02:03:45.399 the deep State, which has a completely different agenda, and 2004 02:03:45.479 --> 02:03:47.520 I think what they want to do is come up 2005 02:03:48.000 --> 02:03:52.560 with some major false flag event, a really major one, 2006 02:03:52.720 --> 02:03:57.560 and I think that the one that probably is most 2007 02:03:58.000 --> 02:04:04.159 likely is a false flag asteroid impact. Many people probably 2008 02:04:04.199 --> 02:04:15.239 aren't aware that Back in November of two thousand and sixteen, FEMA, NASA, 2009 02:04:15.920 --> 02:04:22.680 the US Air Force, the California State Emergency Services came 2010 02:04:22.720 --> 02:04:28.560 together to put together a simulated asteroid impact that would 2011 02:04:28.640 --> 02:04:33.680 take place on September twenty, twenty twenty. So we're talking 2012 02:04:33.720 --> 02:04:37.119 about something that's going to take place just over three 2013 02:04:37.239 --> 02:04:40.840 weeks from now. That was the hypothetical exercise, And to me, 2014 02:04:41.319 --> 02:04:45.279 this makes perfect sense that if you wanted to prevent 2015 02:04:45.840 --> 02:04:50.600 a second Trump administration, what you want to do is 2016 02:04:50.800 --> 02:04:58.239 have the presidential elections canceled because of some catastrophic event, 2017 02:04:59.079 --> 02:05:03.039 and a false flag asteroid event would be the way 2018 02:05:03.159 --> 02:05:06.560 to do it. And I think this is all the 2019 02:05:06.680 --> 02:05:09.119 pieces are in play now. Whether or not that happens, 2020 02:05:09.560 --> 02:05:12.239 I don't know. I think when you look at all 2021 02:05:12.279 --> 02:05:15.960 the pieces, this all lines up very well. I'm actually 2022 02:05:16.119 --> 02:05:19.760 working on an article on this that I'm going to 2023 02:05:19.800 --> 02:05:28.399 release in the by Saturday, August twenty nine, and also 2024 02:05:28.560 --> 02:05:34.600 discuss at the extra politics in twenty twenty one Predictions webinar, 2025 02:05:34.840 --> 02:05:37.079 We're all going to more detail into this. But I 2026 02:05:37.159 --> 02:05:40.279 think this is the false flag event, and this would 2027 02:05:40.439 --> 02:05:45.359 set in place a series of constitutional events that would 2028 02:05:45.479 --> 02:05:52.960 lead to President Trump being removed from office through by 2029 02:05:53.079 --> 02:05:56.399 applying the Constitution on January twenty because his term of 2030 02:05:56.479 --> 02:06:02.159 office ends on January twenty, twenty twenty one, unless there's 2031 02:06:02.199 --> 02:06:06.279 a new election. And so without a new election, Trump's 2032 02:06:06.359 --> 02:06:09.479 term of office would end, and then the power would 2033 02:06:09.960 --> 02:06:14.079 evolve back to the US Congress to select the next president. 2034 02:06:14.600 --> 02:06:18.039 And so this is one way I think that the 2035 02:06:18.119 --> 02:06:21.479 deep state wants to remove Trump from power. So I'll 2036 02:06:21.920 --> 02:06:25.640 be discussing this at length in my article that comes 2037 02:06:25.680 --> 02:06:29.039 out on my exopolitics dot org website and on this 2038 02:06:29.680 --> 02:06:31.000 at this upcoming webinar. 2039 02:06:32.439 --> 02:06:39.560 Now, as far as myself, I have never followed politics. 2040 02:06:39.560 --> 02:06:44.199 I've never trusted any president. I've never believe I'm of 2041 02:06:44.319 --> 02:06:48.560 the personal belief that they're all under control. Trump has 2042 02:06:49.039 --> 02:06:52.920 done some things that have made me, you know, raise 2043 02:06:52.960 --> 02:06:54.800 my eyebrows a little bit and think of him a 2044 02:06:54.840 --> 02:07:00.800 little differently, But I still I'm still very agnostic towards politics, 2045 02:07:00.840 --> 02:07:04.399 and I'm really not looking towards anyone to save us, 2046 02:07:04.520 --> 02:07:06.800 because I personally am of the belief that it's up 2047 02:07:06.880 --> 02:07:10.000 to us to stand up, to have an uprising, to 2048 02:07:10.079 --> 02:07:13.640 kind of take everything back, because I just don't trust him. 2049 02:07:13.680 --> 02:07:16.159 I don't trust politicians. But like I said, you know, 2050 02:07:16.239 --> 02:07:19.920 Trump has done some interesting things, I'll say, and there 2051 02:07:20.039 --> 02:07:25.319 are i would say, more positive things coming out of 2052 02:07:25.439 --> 02:07:29.560 that side than the left. So I definitely like to 2053 02:07:29.680 --> 02:07:33.880 hear what makes you think, what makes you trust Trump 2054 02:07:33.960 --> 02:07:36.600 and think that he is the answer to kind of 2055 02:07:36.720 --> 02:07:37.119 change this. 2056 02:07:38.800 --> 02:07:42.319 Well, I think probably for me, the most compelling reason 2057 02:07:42.560 --> 02:07:47.760 for why I believe Donald Trump is the best person 2058 02:07:47.840 --> 02:07:51.239 for the job is his support for the creation of 2059 02:07:51.359 --> 02:07:54.720 Space Force. I mean, he has been a big proponent 2060 02:07:55.039 --> 02:07:59.520 of development of space Force from very early on. And 2061 02:08:00.439 --> 02:08:04.399 Space Force is tremendously important because what it's trying to 2062 02:08:04.560 --> 02:08:09.920 do is to bring under the control of one US 2063 02:08:10.039 --> 02:08:14.720 military service all of the different space assets that have 2064 02:08:14.840 --> 02:08:19.319 been deployed not only by the Air Force, the Navy, 2065 02:08:20.000 --> 02:08:24.319 the Army, Marines, but also corporations, and bring all that 2066 02:08:24.479 --> 02:08:30.800 under the control of one unified military service that maintains accountability, transparency, 2067 02:08:31.359 --> 02:08:35.199 a clear chain of command. And that is very important 2068 02:08:35.319 --> 02:08:38.159 because the thing is, one of the things you learn 2069 02:08:38.399 --> 02:08:40.560 in doing this research is that the way the deep 2070 02:08:40.640 --> 02:08:45.479 State operates is through false flag operations, where they can 2071 02:08:45.600 --> 02:08:51.359 basically deceive the public and deceive regular government and military 2072 02:08:51.439 --> 02:08:56.479 personnel that someone from another group has pulled off a 2073 02:08:56.600 --> 02:09:00.319 major attack on your country or on your institutions. But 2074 02:09:00.520 --> 02:09:03.479 with the creation of Space Force, it makes it more 2075 02:09:03.479 --> 02:09:07.239 and more difficult for these kinds of false flag events 2076 02:09:07.520 --> 02:09:11.279 to take place. And what's very very interesting is that 2077 02:09:11.760 --> 02:09:16.800 while Trump has been a very big supporter of Space Force, 2078 02:09:17.640 --> 02:09:20.439 there are many people from the political left that are 2079 02:09:20.520 --> 02:09:24.319 calling for the abolishment of Space Force. And you also 2080 02:09:24.520 --> 02:09:28.319 have that series on Netflix that is trying to ridicule 2081 02:09:28.560 --> 02:09:30.640 Space Force, and so you have to kind of like, 2082 02:09:30.760 --> 02:09:35.000 look at, well, why did Netflix come out with this 2083 02:09:35.359 --> 02:09:38.680 series where Steve Carroll stars and it makes fun of 2084 02:09:38.800 --> 02:09:41.600 this new military service. Why is that? I'll tell you 2085 02:09:41.720 --> 02:09:45.159 why the Deep State doesn't want Space Force. The Deep 2086 02:09:45.279 --> 02:09:48.760 State is terrified by Space Force, and the reason is 2087 02:09:48.960 --> 02:09:52.720 very simple, because Space Force will put an end to 2088 02:09:52.960 --> 02:09:56.760 the false flag operations that the Deep State has been 2089 02:09:56.840 --> 02:10:01.199 pulling off using its space operations or sp assets since 2090 02:10:01.319 --> 02:10:04.359 nine to eleven. Nine to eleven was a false flag 2091 02:10:04.439 --> 02:10:09.960 event orchestrated from space, using the Deep State's assets to 2092 02:10:10.079 --> 02:10:10.760 pull that off. 2093 02:10:12.800 --> 02:10:15.439 Now, over the past few years, we've been seeing a 2094 02:10:15.640 --> 02:10:19.399 lot more talk about UFOs and the mainstream media. We 2095 02:10:19.560 --> 02:10:23.520 have the to the Stars Academy, supposedly they're going to 2096 02:10:23.560 --> 02:10:28.800 be talking about possible off planet materials that they found. 2097 02:10:29.600 --> 02:10:31.319 What are your thoughts on this. Do you think that 2098 02:10:31.439 --> 02:10:34.800 they're preparing us for something that there may be some 2099 02:10:35.039 --> 02:10:38.000 sort of disclosure in the near future, or is it 2100 02:10:38.199 --> 02:10:41.680 something maybe more malevolent that they're going to do a 2101 02:10:41.760 --> 02:10:42.560 fake invasion. 2102 02:10:42.720 --> 02:10:43.600 What are your thoughts on that. 2103 02:10:45.199 --> 02:10:47.800 You know, when we look at everything that's emerged over 2104 02:10:47.840 --> 02:10:51.479 the last few months, I think there are multiple agendas 2105 02:10:51.520 --> 02:10:55.000 here at play in terms of like doing some kind 2106 02:10:55.000 --> 02:10:59.199 of official disclosure. I think one narrative and we see 2107 02:10:59.279 --> 02:11:03.960 that with the kind of like a tip program to 2108 02:11:04.119 --> 02:11:07.560 the Stars program where you have all of these disclosures 2109 02:11:08.680 --> 02:11:13.399 pointing to these UFOs being a threat, being a national 2110 02:11:13.520 --> 02:11:16.640 security threat, and I think that all feeds into this 2111 02:11:16.920 --> 02:11:21.920 idea of a possible alien threat or some kind of 2112 02:11:23.279 --> 02:11:28.239 threat posed by eras other major nations. But I think 2113 02:11:28.680 --> 02:11:32.560 the whole threat scenario is being pushed for a particular 2114 02:11:32.720 --> 02:11:36.680 ufone narrative to make people scared so that that way 2115 02:11:36.760 --> 02:11:41.520 they kind of like surrender authority. And at this point 2116 02:11:41.600 --> 02:11:45.760 in our history, even though I would love for extraterstrial 2117 02:11:45.960 --> 02:11:49.239 disclosure to happen, I don't think the mass majority of 2118 02:11:49.319 --> 02:11:51.560 people are ready for it yet, they need to be prepared. 2119 02:11:52.000 --> 02:11:54.760 So if you were to just unveil extraterstrials are here, 2120 02:11:55.199 --> 02:11:59.520 I think they'd be chaos. Whereas the other narrative, or 2121 02:11:59.560 --> 02:12:02.720 the other initiative I think, which is being pushed by 2122 02:12:02.920 --> 02:12:07.439 white hats, is to first release advanced technologies, is to 2123 02:12:07.600 --> 02:12:11.399 first use set up something like space Force, which would 2124 02:12:11.439 --> 02:12:16.800 be the vehicle for releasing new energy technologies, for having 2125 02:12:17.439 --> 02:12:25.880 American industries basically build these advanced aerospace technologies, new energy systems, 2126 02:12:26.239 --> 02:12:30.079 alternative healing modalities, build all of these and kind of 2127 02:12:30.159 --> 02:12:35.399 like massively reindustrialize America with all of these advanced technologies 2128 02:12:35.760 --> 02:12:38.960 so that we become something closer to like a Jetson's 2129 02:12:39.399 --> 02:12:42.960 society with flying cars, kind of like our free energy 2130 02:12:43.000 --> 02:12:47.119 devices in our homes, and then like five years, ten 2131 02:12:47.199 --> 02:12:50.600 years down the track, they will then really reveal to 2132 02:12:50.880 --> 02:12:53.239 us the existence of extraterstrial lives. So I think there 2133 02:12:53.279 --> 02:12:56.880 were these multiple agendas at play, and we're seeing it 2134 02:12:57.279 --> 02:13:05.199 now with what's happening with Congress being briefed about uh 2135 02:13:05.479 --> 02:13:09.239 these out of the out of these world technologies that 2136 02:13:09.359 --> 02:13:15.119 are being studied in corporate facilities, and that this is 2137 02:13:15.239 --> 02:13:19.399 something that reverse engineering has been attempted on. 2138 02:13:21.079 --> 02:13:24.039 Now, do you think if Trump doesn't win, that we 2139 02:13:24.279 --> 02:13:27.760 are going to be on an even more fast track 2140 02:13:27.960 --> 02:13:31.640 to just this total dystopia that you can see coming 2141 02:13:31.720 --> 02:13:35.199 in the future, This you know, total slave control system 2142 02:13:35.319 --> 02:13:39.479 that they apparently want to enforce on the planet. Do 2143 02:13:39.520 --> 02:13:41.239 you think that we're on a fast track for that 2144 02:13:41.439 --> 02:13:42.439 if Trump doesn't win. 2145 02:13:43.920 --> 02:13:47.159 Unfortunately, I think if done, if Trump doesn't win, what's 2146 02:13:47.239 --> 02:13:50.720 going to happen is that China is going to become 2147 02:13:50.880 --> 02:13:55.159 the dominant power on the planet. And at some point 2148 02:13:55.640 --> 02:14:00.439 China will eclipse the US militarily and would be able 2149 02:14:00.479 --> 02:14:05.800 to basically launch space Paul Harbor, take out the US 2150 02:14:06.000 --> 02:14:11.760 satellite grid and make the Chinese satellite grid the default 2151 02:14:12.079 --> 02:14:15.119 grid for the planet. And so we would all then 2152 02:14:15.920 --> 02:14:20.159 be linked up into the Baydo satellite grid that that 2153 02:14:20.399 --> 02:14:23.560 China is setting up. We would we would all have 2154 02:14:23.760 --> 02:14:28.039 this advanced five G technology which would bring incredible Internet 2155 02:14:28.159 --> 02:14:31.039 speeds into our phones and into our homes, but it 2156 02:14:31.079 --> 02:14:35.119 would all be controlled by China. You would have artificial 2157 02:14:35.199 --> 02:14:39.920 intelligence being increasingly used to monitor us, all all of 2158 02:14:40.000 --> 02:14:46.159 the major Internet companies, social media companies like Google, Yahoo, Facebook, 2159 02:14:46.279 --> 02:14:51.119 Twitter would would basically line up very closely behind China, 2160 02:14:51.720 --> 02:14:56.960 and we would have massive censorship. The alternative news media 2161 02:14:57.079 --> 02:14:59.680 would be suppressed. The only thing that would come forward 2162 02:14:59.720 --> 02:15:04.960 would a kind of China centric worldview, and anyone, anyone 2163 02:15:05.119 --> 02:15:08.520 that bucks the system, we would be subjected to a 2164 02:15:08.600 --> 02:15:12.119 social credit system which would be global. Anything you said 2165 02:15:12.199 --> 02:15:16.479 and did would impact your social credit score. So we 2166 02:15:16.520 --> 02:15:22.399 would think essentially become a slave society if Trump isn't 2167 02:15:22.439 --> 02:15:25.359 re elected, and I think it's as simple as that. Unfortunately, 2168 02:15:26.680 --> 02:15:31.960 I think it's quite clear that the Democratic Party is 2169 02:15:32.840 --> 02:15:38.760 really controlled by China and the deep state, whereas the 2170 02:15:38.840 --> 02:15:46.640 Republican Party really is still trying to maintain this kind 2171 02:15:46.680 --> 02:15:50.920 of sovereign status of the US with the US military 2172 02:15:51.039 --> 02:15:51.960 firmly behind it. 2173 02:15:53.439 --> 02:15:57.439 Right now, our country is so divided that I don't, 2174 02:15:57.640 --> 02:15:59.960 you know, no matter what the turnout, there's going to 2175 02:16:00.119 --> 02:16:03.960 be some unrest. You know, it's possible we might even 2176 02:16:04.039 --> 02:16:07.319 see some kind of civil war after this, if you know, 2177 02:16:07.439 --> 02:16:10.840 if Trump wins, or you know, if even if he doesn't. 2178 02:16:11.439 --> 02:16:14.119 It seems like we can't win either way because there 2179 02:16:14.159 --> 02:16:17.520 will be some sort of consequences or civil unrest to follow. 2180 02:16:18.159 --> 02:16:19.640 Do you think do you see that happening? 2181 02:16:20.720 --> 02:16:22.840 Well, you know, what I see happening is that the 2182 02:16:23.000 --> 02:16:25.960 mass media is trying to put out this idea, this 2183 02:16:26.159 --> 02:16:31.279 narrative that America is deeply divided and that there's fighting 2184 02:16:31.319 --> 02:16:34.920 between Americans. I don't I have to challenge that. I mean, 2185 02:16:35.040 --> 02:16:37.159 I think what you have is that on the one hand, 2186 02:16:37.200 --> 02:16:41.680 you have rural America, which is solidly in favor of 2187 02:16:41.840 --> 02:16:46.440 law and order, a strong middle class, American sovereignty, American values, 2188 02:16:47.280 --> 02:16:50.200 a strong military, and you know, and that that's for 2189 02:16:50.319 --> 02:16:54.079 both Democrat and Republicans in rural America. When you get 2190 02:16:54.120 --> 02:16:58.840 into the major cities, what you have is kind of 2191 02:16:58.959 --> 02:17:01.840 like a lot of the political left who are being 2192 02:17:02.000 --> 02:17:06.280 instigated to riot and demonstrate. And because of the coronavirus, 2193 02:17:06.360 --> 02:17:09.479 you have a lot of young people, college aged people 2194 02:17:09.959 --> 02:17:12.079 that are just kind of getting out there and demonstrating 2195 02:17:12.120 --> 02:17:14.520 because it's basically the only way now you can get 2196 02:17:14.559 --> 02:17:17.760 out there and be with your buddies and do things together. 2197 02:17:18.159 --> 02:17:20.200 So I think it's an illusion. This whole idea that 2198 02:17:20.280 --> 02:17:24.399 America is deeply divided is an illusion that is being 2199 02:17:24.479 --> 02:17:28.639 promoted by the mainstream media, and it's only in major 2200 02:17:28.840 --> 02:17:34.000 urban areas that you get this idea of this kind 2201 02:17:34.040 --> 02:17:37.399 of this kind of social device. But even if you 2202 02:17:37.479 --> 02:17:41.200 go into major American cities, I don't think there's really 2203 02:17:41.239 --> 02:17:45.719 that much support for defunding the police and really having 2204 02:17:46.440 --> 02:17:50.920 these kind of left wing mobs being given a free hand. 2205 02:17:51.000 --> 02:17:52.879 I don't think there's much support for that at all. 2206 02:17:53.360 --> 02:17:56.040 I mean, you have business leaders in the big cities 2207 02:17:56.120 --> 02:17:59.920 in Chicago, New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco. You know, 2208 02:18:00.159 --> 02:18:04.040 they're totally opposed to, you know, giving free reign to 2209 02:18:04.200 --> 02:18:08.319 these riots and these demonstrators. So you know, this is 2210 02:18:08.479 --> 02:18:11.600 this is really a narrative being pushed by the mainstream media, 2211 02:18:12.040 --> 02:18:16.920 and it's losing support. And right now the deep state 2212 02:18:17.239 --> 02:18:20.840 knows this. They understand through internal or polling that the 2213 02:18:20.920 --> 02:18:24.559 Democratic Party is in a free fall, the support for 2214 02:18:24.639 --> 02:18:30.000 them is in a free fall, that minority voters, people 2215 02:18:30.399 --> 02:18:36.920 that are traditionally voting traditional independence are all moving over 2216 02:18:37.440 --> 02:18:40.959 to the Trump Democratic law, to the Trump law and 2217 02:18:41.079 --> 02:18:43.920 order approach. So this is why the deep state is 2218 02:18:45.120 --> 02:18:48.879 panicking and why I think that this idea of a 2219 02:18:49.120 --> 02:18:53.000 false flag event, a major event that creates a kind 2220 02:18:53.000 --> 02:18:58.200 of regional catastrophe in the United States is seriously being contemplated, 2221 02:18:58.319 --> 02:19:00.639 and all the signs are there, and the only question 2222 02:19:00.760 --> 02:19:03.239 to my mind is whether the white hats in the 2223 02:19:03.399 --> 02:19:05.719 in the military, and the and the secret space program 2224 02:19:05.840 --> 02:19:06.399 can prevent that. 2225 02:19:07.920 --> 02:19:11.879 Yeah, the media is definitely doing an all out psychological 2226 02:19:11.959 --> 02:19:16.399 warfare campaign to you know, if not divide us, to 2227 02:19:16.600 --> 02:19:19.079 push this image that we are divided. Like you said, 2228 02:19:20.399 --> 02:19:25.760 there's there's all kinds of you know, this media division 2229 02:19:26.120 --> 02:19:28.600 everywhere you look. You know, you can't watch the news 2230 02:19:28.760 --> 02:19:31.399 because first of all, there's no good information that's going 2231 02:19:31.440 --> 02:19:33.760 to come out of it anyway, and second, it's all 2232 02:19:33.840 --> 02:19:38.040 negative trying to push their agendas forward. Now we have 2233 02:19:38.120 --> 02:19:40.200 a few minutes left, I'd like to get back to 2234 02:19:40.520 --> 02:19:43.920 extraterrestrials for the last few minutes that we have. Do 2235 02:19:44.040 --> 02:19:46.639 you think that there are some that walk among us 2236 02:19:46.719 --> 02:19:49.520 that we could be next to at any given day 2237 02:19:49.559 --> 02:19:51.959 and we wouldn't even notice. Do you think that there 2238 02:19:52.040 --> 02:19:53.600 are they are walking among us? 2239 02:19:54.920 --> 02:19:57.760 Definitely? I think when you know, looking at the big 2240 02:19:57.879 --> 02:20:00.959 pitch in terms of extraterrest I think what we need 2241 02:20:01.040 --> 02:20:04.559 to consider is that the vast majority of extraterrestrials are 2242 02:20:05.040 --> 02:20:09.040 very positive beings that want to help humanity evolve, and 2243 02:20:09.159 --> 02:20:11.319 that they have decided that the best way of doing 2244 02:20:11.440 --> 02:20:14.239 that is not to show up and say, heah, here 2245 02:20:14.319 --> 02:20:15.840 we are you know, we're here to help you with 2246 02:20:15.920 --> 02:20:19.000 advanced tech and will help you solve your problems. That 2247 02:20:19.200 --> 02:20:22.959 that was that that approach has been tried before and 2248 02:20:23.239 --> 02:20:27.600 failed spectacularly. That's what happened in Atlantis, and that failed. 2249 02:20:28.000 --> 02:20:30.600 So what they're doing now is that they're operating behind 2250 02:20:30.719 --> 02:20:34.680 the scenes. They are infiltrating human society, putting their people 2251 02:20:35.280 --> 02:20:41.760 in prominent positions, in helping thought leaders, in helping military institutions. 2252 02:20:41.799 --> 02:20:45.040 I think William Tompkins described it really well in his 2253 02:20:45.200 --> 02:20:49.120 books Selected by Extraterrestrials, where he described how these extraterrestrials 2254 02:20:49.239 --> 02:20:57.040 infiltrated major corporations to help American engineers and scientists solve 2255 02:20:57.200 --> 02:21:03.079 problems concerning the development of very powerful aerospace vehicles that 2256 02:21:03.200 --> 02:21:06.719 could operate in deep space. And that, I think is 2257 02:21:06.799 --> 02:21:10.799 how the positive extraterrestrils are operating. Now there are other extraterrestrils. 2258 02:21:10.840 --> 02:21:14.200 I think there's a smaller number of like more negative 2259 02:21:14.280 --> 02:21:18.200 extraterrestrials who have been working with the deep State, working 2260 02:21:18.239 --> 02:21:22.479 with compromised institutions. You know, we're talking about gray extraterrestrials, 2261 02:21:22.559 --> 02:21:27.319 reptilian extraterrestrials, and that they are overall a minority, but 2262 02:21:27.479 --> 02:21:32.399 nevertheless they have had like an outsized influence because they 2263 02:21:32.479 --> 02:21:36.360 have been working directly with the Deep State. And so 2264 02:21:37.639 --> 02:21:41.280 what we are witnessing now is really kind of like 2265 02:21:41.399 --> 02:21:45.000 the endgame is whether or not we as a species 2266 02:21:45.040 --> 02:21:47.840 are going to follow this kind of higher path of 2267 02:21:48.520 --> 02:21:54.159 technological development with kind of spiritual and ethical evolution, or 2268 02:21:54.200 --> 02:21:56.479 whether we're going to go in this path of like 2269 02:21:56.639 --> 02:22:00.840 a catastrophe, crisis and manipulation by the Deep Day. And 2270 02:22:02.079 --> 02:22:06.079 I'm very optimistic. I think that we are going to succeed. 2271 02:22:06.959 --> 02:22:09.319 But still, you know, we have to be very wary 2272 02:22:09.520 --> 02:22:12.000 of what the deep State can do because, like you know, 2273 02:22:12.120 --> 02:22:15.760 like a cornered animal, it is very dangerous when it 2274 02:22:15.799 --> 02:22:17.399 doesn't have any options left. 2275 02:22:18.879 --> 02:22:24.719 Now, just recently, I had my very first contact experience. Now, 2276 02:22:24.799 --> 02:22:29.399 my whole life, I've always been interested in the ufology 2277 02:22:29.719 --> 02:22:33.360 and extraterrestrials and the paranormal, but have never had an experience. 2278 02:22:33.360 --> 02:22:36.639 I've never even seen a UFO. Well, a few weeks 2279 02:22:36.680 --> 02:22:39.879 ago I saw my first UFO. I couldn't prove that 2280 02:22:39.920 --> 02:22:42.280 it was UFO, but it was definitely something interesting. And 2281 02:22:42.360 --> 02:22:46.280 then two weeks after that, I had a meditation session 2282 02:22:46.360 --> 02:22:50.159 and I actually, I truly believe I made contact with 2283 02:22:50.239 --> 02:22:54.239 another intelligence and my consciousness was on what I can 2284 02:22:54.319 --> 02:22:57.520 only describe as a ship and I met other etheric 2285 02:22:57.680 --> 02:23:01.879 beings there. Now, this seems to be happening a lot 2286 02:23:02.000 --> 02:23:04.719 to a lot of people during this time. Like, I've 2287 02:23:04.799 --> 02:23:08.159 never experienced this, and I've had plenty of people who've 2288 02:23:08.360 --> 02:23:11.120 described this to me, and I could never wrap my 2289 02:23:11.200 --> 02:23:15.360 head around it until I experienced it myself. The communication 2290 02:23:15.639 --> 02:23:19.479 between these beings was completely psychic, and I felt such 2291 02:23:19.600 --> 02:23:23.440 a great sense of love coming from these beings. These 2292 02:23:23.479 --> 02:23:26.559 were definitely positive beings trying to get a message to me, 2293 02:23:26.639 --> 02:23:28.760 and they did. They gave me a lot of information 2294 02:23:29.440 --> 02:23:33.239 during our contact. Do you think that this is happening worldwide, 2295 02:23:33.319 --> 02:23:35.440 that a lot more people are being contacted. 2296 02:23:36.879 --> 02:23:40.440 That's a very common story. I've heard that again and 2297 02:23:40.559 --> 02:23:43.200 again that typically that's how it begins. It's like there's 2298 02:23:43.200 --> 02:23:46.799 a UFO sighting, and then there's that telepathic connection that 2299 02:23:47.079 --> 02:23:50.399 is established, and after there's a certain level of comfort 2300 02:23:50.479 --> 02:23:53.639 that is reached, then it progresses into a physical contact. 2301 02:23:53.680 --> 02:23:57.360 So that's fantastic what you're experiencing, and you know, I 2302 02:23:57.440 --> 02:24:00.520 wish you well in that because it's an incredible journey. 2303 02:24:00.639 --> 02:24:03.879 And I think this is something that is happening worldwide. 2304 02:24:04.280 --> 02:24:07.440 Any anyone that is receptive, that is open to that, 2305 02:24:08.639 --> 02:24:14.280 they are going to experience that because this is our future. 2306 02:24:14.440 --> 02:24:17.159 We are we are going to become a galactic society, 2307 02:24:17.920 --> 02:24:20.360 and this is the way it will happen. That more 2308 02:24:20.399 --> 02:24:25.680 and more people will become very comfortable with the idea 2309 02:24:26.000 --> 02:24:30.920 of open contact with extraterrestrials, and eventually there'll be so 2310 02:24:31.079 --> 02:24:35.120 many people that are having experiences similar to yours, and 2311 02:24:35.200 --> 02:24:38.079 they're going to be kind of like wanting the extraterstrils 2312 02:24:38.120 --> 02:24:40.440 to show up. And that's when we can make a 2313 02:24:40.600 --> 02:24:46.280 really spectacular quantum leap forward. Because even though I think 2314 02:24:46.399 --> 02:24:48.879 white hats in government, and I think that a lot 2315 02:24:48.920 --> 02:24:52.000 of the US military guys, the patriots and the ones 2316 02:24:52.040 --> 02:24:54.360 that stand by the Constitution, I think that they are 2317 02:24:54.760 --> 02:24:58.799 at heart really good people. They nevertheless, they are military 2318 02:24:59.239 --> 02:25:01.520 and they have that military mindset. So I think you 2319 02:25:01.600 --> 02:25:04.399 can only get so far with that. I think ultimately 2320 02:25:04.479 --> 02:25:08.399 it's going to be people like you like me who 2321 02:25:08.760 --> 02:25:13.760 are open and have this kind of direct connection with extraterrestrials, 2322 02:25:13.879 --> 02:25:15.799 we are going to be the ones that kind of 2323 02:25:15.879 --> 02:25:20.079 take us further down the path of becoming a galactic civilization. 2324 02:25:20.680 --> 02:25:23.040 And I think that'll be the process, and I think 2325 02:25:23.079 --> 02:25:25.920 it's going to happen, but you know, still we have 2326 02:25:26.000 --> 02:25:28.719 to get through some some big hurdles at the moment. 2327 02:25:29.680 --> 02:25:33.120 It's very interesting because they told me that I was 2328 02:25:33.239 --> 02:25:35.959 ready so that this was the right time for them 2329 02:25:36.040 --> 02:25:41.479 to become known and interact. So that's very interesting. Now 2330 02:25:41.559 --> 02:25:43.840 do you think within our lifetime we could see this 2331 02:25:44.799 --> 02:25:48.280 worldwide you know, open communication with these beings. 2332 02:25:49.360 --> 02:25:51.479 Yeah, I think so. I think this is what's going 2333 02:25:51.559 --> 02:25:56.280 to happen. I think the optimal outcome to me is 2334 02:25:56.360 --> 02:25:59.520 going to be that you're going to have the White 2335 02:25:59.559 --> 02:26:03.200 Hat six eating that everything moves forward in terms of 2336 02:26:04.799 --> 02:26:09.399 Trump and the whole kind of release of space Force, 2337 02:26:09.920 --> 02:26:12.479 the release of all of these advanced technologies that will 2338 02:26:12.600 --> 02:26:16.360 move forward under space Force, and as these new technologies 2339 02:26:16.440 --> 02:26:19.120 come on line, people will begin to kind of like 2340 02:26:19.319 --> 02:26:24.559 open their minds to incredible new possibilities. Space is on 2341 02:26:24.680 --> 02:26:27.520 the agenda. I mean, you're going to have the Artemis 2342 02:26:27.600 --> 02:26:31.079 project Artamis project, where you're going to have Americans landing 2343 02:26:31.239 --> 02:26:33.000 on the Moon again, and then they're going to plan 2344 02:26:33.120 --> 02:26:35.559 to do the same thing on Mars. So people's attention 2345 02:26:35.719 --> 02:26:38.680 is going to expand with space force all of these landings, 2346 02:26:39.120 --> 02:26:41.479 and then it's just going to be an organic process 2347 02:26:41.479 --> 02:26:44.319 where all of a sudden people's attention goes to space. 2348 02:26:44.760 --> 02:26:47.840 More people are going to have experiences like yours making 2349 02:26:47.920 --> 02:26:51.719 telepathic connection, and then one day the extraterrestrials will will 2350 02:26:51.760 --> 02:26:55.200 suddenly show up, and I think at that point, the 2351 02:26:55.319 --> 02:26:58.280 white hats will be firmly in control. The white hats 2352 02:26:58.319 --> 02:27:02.079 will have worked things out the positive extraterrestals and say, yeah, okay, 2353 02:27:02.239 --> 02:27:05.040 so all right now you can show up that you know, 2354 02:27:05.159 --> 02:27:07.200 these are the ground rules for you doing that, and 2355 02:27:08.000 --> 02:27:10.959 they'll work out an agreement and the extra trestles will 2356 02:27:11.000 --> 02:27:14.959 show up, and I think that will be the optimal outcome. 2357 02:27:15.000 --> 02:27:18.360 And so I think five years, the ten years we 2358 02:27:18.559 --> 02:27:24.840 are going to have positive extraterst rules publicly emerging and 2359 02:27:25.159 --> 02:27:28.079 openly interacting with everyone on the planet. 2360 02:27:28.760 --> 02:27:31.760 Well, that would be absolutely amazing. Doctor Salah, thank you 2361 02:27:31.840 --> 02:27:34.559 so much for coming on, and everyone be sure click 2362 02:27:34.600 --> 02:27:36.559 the link in the description to get your tickets to 2363 02:27:36.719 --> 02:27:41.719 tomorrow's conference Exopolitics and twenty twenty one Predictions with doctor 2364 02:27:41.760 --> 02:27:45.040 Michael Sala, Laura Eisenhower, and John Desusa. It's an all 2365 02:27:45.120 --> 02:27:48.200 day conference. You won't want to miss it before you 2366 02:27:48.280 --> 02:27:51.200 head out, Doctor Salah. 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