WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.560 --> 00:00:03.000 The disclaimer to the fair season Karen's out there. 2 00:00:03.080 --> 00:00:03.279 Oh. 3 00:00:04.200 --> 00:00:06.160 All guests on the show do not reflect the opinions 4 00:00:06.160 --> 00:00:09.599 of the hosting. The purpose of the show is to 5 00:00:09.599 --> 00:00:12.679 have interesting conversations, stretch our minds, and grow, not what 6 00:00:12.880 --> 00:00:16.160 we want. If you were looking for Echo chamber, viewer 7 00:00:16.199 --> 00:00:18.199 and listener discretion is advised. 8 00:00:22.039 --> 00:00:24.199 Did you talk about extreme. 9 00:00:26.640 --> 00:00:33.039 Hey, guys, I get it. Ads suck. I pay to 10 00:00:33.079 --> 00:00:35.520 get rid of ads on YouTube and some of my 11 00:00:35.600 --> 00:00:40.600 other favorite podcasts. 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So come on over 29 00:01:55.159 --> 00:01:59.959 to supercast dot com more specifically Prometheus Lens dot com 30 00:02:00.239 --> 00:02:04.799 supercast dot com and sign up and experience the difference. 31 00:02:05.760 --> 00:02:08.639 There was always the question in the back of my head, 32 00:02:08.759 --> 00:02:13.120 well where did Kane get his wife? And you know, 33 00:02:13.479 --> 00:02:18.159 in reading Young Earth creationist articles, they always would say like, well, 34 00:02:18.240 --> 00:02:21.360 you know, Kane got his wife because it was it 35 00:02:21.400 --> 00:02:24.360 was his sister. He ended up just marrying his sister. 36 00:02:26.319 --> 00:02:29.400 To me, that's kind of strange because later on in 37 00:02:29.439 --> 00:02:34.280 the Torah, uh, they are explicit laws that forbid the 38 00:02:34.319 --> 00:02:39.439 marriage of close siblings close relatives. Michael Jones from Inspiring 39 00:02:39.439 --> 00:02:42.599 Philosophy does a really good video about that where he 40 00:02:42.639 --> 00:02:45.960 makes the defense of there being other people outside of 41 00:02:46.000 --> 00:02:50.960 the land of Edon that Kane married into, as stating like, 42 00:02:51.000 --> 00:02:53.199 that's where Kane got his wife. And in that he 43 00:02:53.199 --> 00:02:56.680 he mentions in the Torah that it forbids the marriage 44 00:02:56.680 --> 00:03:00.240 of close relatives So that was one really interesting past 45 00:03:00.360 --> 00:03:02.599 that kind of change my perspective. 46 00:03:15.599 --> 00:03:18.599 What is happening and what is a hold out your 47 00:03:18.639 --> 00:03:20.639 glass because we're about to feel it up. 48 00:03:20.840 --> 00:03:26.400 All things continually lead back to serpents, dragons, fairies, nepheline, 49 00:03:26.400 --> 00:03:29.639 and fallen angels. In the distance looms a mystical mountain. 50 00:03:29.719 --> 00:03:31.120 As Mike Kaiser used to say, if it's in the 51 00:03:31.120 --> 00:03:33.759 Bible and it's weird, it's probably important. At its peak, 52 00:03:34.319 --> 00:03:38.759 a great fire burns, concealing the Prometheus lens. 53 00:03:39.240 --> 00:03:43.360 This development of this knowledge that's being talked about within 54 00:03:43.400 --> 00:03:44.120 the mystery. 55 00:03:43.800 --> 00:03:47.000 Schools, an ancient artifact said to reveal the hidden truth 56 00:03:47.080 --> 00:03:48.919 within a deliberately darkened world. 57 00:03:49.039 --> 00:03:51.520 There is a hidden history that's been deliberately obsercated from 58 00:03:51.520 --> 00:03:52.360 the people's little world. 59 00:03:52.599 --> 00:03:55.879 Join us as we travel and explore the vast unknown. 60 00:03:56.360 --> 00:04:00.599 It's a hero's journey with dragons to slay, damsel to save, 61 00:04:01.240 --> 00:04:03.680 and innumerable treasures to hoard. 62 00:04:05.479 --> 00:04:10.280 Torches high the Smithsonian they called Wind of the Giants. 63 00:04:10.360 --> 00:04:15.360 Gelt would send their agents out to get it. But 64 00:04:15.479 --> 00:04:20.360 it takes courage to move forward, to move out of 65 00:04:20.399 --> 00:04:25.800 the shadows, out of the cut reality that we think of. 66 00:04:25.879 --> 00:04:27.199 This reality. 67 00:04:27.959 --> 00:04:30.800 We are all on the Hero's journey. 68 00:04:32.600 --> 00:04:37.800 Mankind has been in contact with and influenced by extraterrestrials. 69 00:04:38.879 --> 00:04:42.279 Leave the citient mound of bull feathers out of it, you. 70 00:04:42.199 --> 00:04:45.800 Know, look at it from a different perspective, different perspective, 71 00:04:46.120 --> 00:04:47.079 different perspective. 72 00:04:54.720 --> 00:04:58.040 What is happening? And what is a old actual glass? 73 00:04:58.319 --> 00:05:01.800 Because we are about to feel welcome to the Prometheus 74 00:05:01.839 --> 00:05:06.360 Lens podcast place with the conversations are always enlightening. I'm 75 00:05:06.360 --> 00:05:09.000 your host, justin here. We like to use the allegory 76 00:05:09.439 --> 00:05:14.759 of the Prometheus Lens to take a second look at everything. Well, hey, guys, 77 00:05:14.800 --> 00:05:17.560 if you knew to the channel, welcome to the Hero's Journey. 78 00:05:17.720 --> 00:05:19.680 Be sure to hit that light button, that subscribe button, 79 00:05:19.720 --> 00:05:22.079 drop me a comment, let me know where you're from. 80 00:05:22.399 --> 00:05:25.079 And yeah, just thank you guys, and be sure to 81 00:05:25.160 --> 00:05:27.639 check out the banner below. We'll have all of our 82 00:05:27.680 --> 00:05:31.720 socials and various platforms come check us out. Be much 83 00:05:31.839 --> 00:05:37.199 much appreciated. Well, today we're going to have another organic conversation. 84 00:05:38.040 --> 00:05:40.160 A guy I met on Facebook and we've been having 85 00:05:40.240 --> 00:05:43.600 some conversations and he is an author and he has 86 00:05:43.720 --> 00:05:47.160 written a book on the subject matter of Cain and 87 00:05:47.240 --> 00:05:49.399 as you guys know, with the research and stuff that 88 00:05:49.439 --> 00:05:52.639 I've been doing with the Epic of Esaw, Caine falls 89 00:05:52.680 --> 00:05:54.920 writing into line with that. So me and him has 90 00:05:54.959 --> 00:06:00.160 been having some conversations through DMS, and I just ask 91 00:06:00.279 --> 00:06:01.800 me if he'd be willing to come on the show 92 00:06:01.879 --> 00:06:05.040 and talk about his book and some of his research 93 00:06:05.120 --> 00:06:06.959 and his findings, and he was willing to do that. 94 00:06:07.120 --> 00:06:09.199 So we're really excited just to sit down and talk 95 00:06:09.240 --> 00:06:12.959 with this author today. But his name is Briar Cater 96 00:06:13.839 --> 00:06:15.720 and I even asked you before. I was like, man, 97 00:06:15.879 --> 00:06:17.439 tell me how to say your name. I do not 98 00:06:17.560 --> 00:06:20.319 want to mess it up, brother, But just thank you 99 00:06:20.360 --> 00:06:21.240 for coming on. Man. 100 00:06:21.600 --> 00:06:23.120 Yeah. Absolutely, I'm glad to be here. 101 00:06:23.720 --> 00:06:25.879 And don't feel bad because most people get my name 102 00:06:25.879 --> 00:06:27.319 wrong initially anyway. 103 00:06:27.399 --> 00:06:29.439 So you did good. You got it right the first time. 104 00:06:29.959 --> 00:06:32.959 Sweet. Yeah. I always joke. I was like, yeah, I'm 105 00:06:33.040 --> 00:06:35.800 Southern man, so I can barely speak English, so when 106 00:06:35.800 --> 00:06:38.600 you throw into a little bit of complicated stuff, man, 107 00:06:38.639 --> 00:06:40.040 I'm bound to mess it up. 108 00:06:41.120 --> 00:06:41.839 No, you did good. 109 00:06:42.600 --> 00:06:45.680 Yeah, Well, man, just give us a little background. Let 110 00:06:45.720 --> 00:06:49.920 us know where you're from, what's your interest hobbies, How 111 00:06:49.959 --> 00:06:51.759 you got into this kind of thing? Just give us 112 00:06:51.839 --> 00:06:53.480 a little bit of a bill of who you are. 113 00:06:54.160 --> 00:06:55.079 Yeah, absolutely so. 114 00:06:55.360 --> 00:06:58.040 Like Justin said, my name is Briar Cater, I'm a 115 00:06:58.120 --> 00:07:01.720 nurse by trade, but by interest, I'm a Bible junkie. 116 00:07:01.759 --> 00:07:05.439 I love everything weird in the Bible, always have, and 117 00:07:05.519 --> 00:07:07.720 that's really what motivated me to write this book in 118 00:07:07.759 --> 00:07:11.920 the first place. Is my lifelong desire to pursue truth 119 00:07:11.959 --> 00:07:14.519 and figure out what the scriptures really have in store 120 00:07:14.600 --> 00:07:17.839 for us. A little bit of personal stuff. I'm the 121 00:07:17.839 --> 00:07:20.360 father of two beautiful daughters, I'm the husband to a 122 00:07:20.360 --> 00:07:23.079 gorgeous wife, and just live in the dream. 123 00:07:24.000 --> 00:07:27.480 Oh yeah, man, Well, how did you end up getting 124 00:07:27.480 --> 00:07:29.000 into this? I know we had a little bit of 125 00:07:29.240 --> 00:07:32.720 conversation before we got started. You want to share that 126 00:07:32.759 --> 00:07:36.480 with the listeners, kind of your inspiration on getting into writing? 127 00:07:37.079 --> 00:07:39.240 Yeah, absolutely so. I've always loved writing. 128 00:07:40.920 --> 00:07:43.639 Even in high school, I would write, you know, papers 129 00:07:43.639 --> 00:07:46.240 that they would have us write in English class. I 130 00:07:46.279 --> 00:07:49.959 would purposely write more pages than necessary just so that 131 00:07:50.000 --> 00:07:51.839 I could get a story together, because I just love 132 00:07:51.920 --> 00:07:55.879 the idea of putting stories together. So the idea for 133 00:07:55.959 --> 00:07:58.920 Keenan Told really kind of has been a bit of 134 00:07:58.959 --> 00:08:01.560 a five year journey so about five. 135 00:08:01.639 --> 00:08:03.040 Well back up a little bit. 136 00:08:03.079 --> 00:08:05.199 Most of my life, I've been what I'm sure a 137 00:08:05.199 --> 00:08:07.600 lot of your listeners have heard of called a young 138 00:08:07.600 --> 00:08:12.199 Earth creationist. You know, the belief that per the Bible, 139 00:08:12.959 --> 00:08:15.759 the Earth is six thousand years old plus the six 140 00:08:16.000 --> 00:08:19.240 days of creation, and you get those six thousand years 141 00:08:19.279 --> 00:08:22.680 by adding up the genealogies in Genesis and so on 142 00:08:22.720 --> 00:08:24.839 and so forth, and then the two thousand years since Christ. 143 00:08:26.079 --> 00:08:29.439 So about five years ago, for some reason, I'm not 144 00:08:29.560 --> 00:08:33.720 entirely sure what's spurred it on, but I really started 145 00:08:34.000 --> 00:08:37.000 thinking about, like, why do I believe what I believe? Like, 146 00:08:37.120 --> 00:08:39.679 why why do I believe that, you know, the Earth 147 00:08:39.720 --> 00:08:40.759 is only six thousand years old? 148 00:08:40.799 --> 00:08:41.879 Does the Bible really say this? 149 00:08:42.559 --> 00:08:45.279 So I started to really critically think about it, think about, 150 00:08:45.320 --> 00:08:50.519 you know, different papers that were put out, different research 151 00:08:50.559 --> 00:08:52.840 that was put out, and I started to come to 152 00:08:52.840 --> 00:08:54.879 the realization like it. 153 00:08:54.960 --> 00:08:56.360 Might not be one way or the other. 154 00:08:56.559 --> 00:08:58.480 It might not be the Earth has to be young 155 00:08:58.559 --> 00:09:01.080 or the Earth has to be old. There's a little 156 00:09:01.120 --> 00:09:05.919 bit of wiggle room in there, and so in that 157 00:09:06.080 --> 00:09:08.159 that's one piece, that's the historical piece of it. 158 00:09:08.360 --> 00:09:10.559 The other piece is what you. 159 00:09:10.559 --> 00:09:12.799 Talk a lot about on the show the Divine Council worldview, 160 00:09:13.639 --> 00:09:17.559 and as we were talking before we started, Brian Goadowa 161 00:09:17.759 --> 00:09:21.000 was a major major influence for me. His book Noah 162 00:09:21.039 --> 00:09:25.039 Primeval really kind of opened my eyes to what scripture 163 00:09:25.080 --> 00:09:27.679 really is getting at, how there there really is like 164 00:09:28.039 --> 00:09:32.200 a divine council, a divine set of suns that God 165 00:09:32.399 --> 00:09:37.440 divvys up different responsibilities to. So I know that a 166 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:39.759 lot of people say that the late great Michael Heiser 167 00:09:39.919 --> 00:09:42.279 was you know, their their entrance into it, and he's 168 00:09:42.320 --> 00:09:45.519 got a lot of really really cool material out there 169 00:09:46.080 --> 00:09:49.919 that I definitely delved into, definitely helped build my own worldview. 170 00:09:50.240 --> 00:09:52.879 But I initially, initially it started with Gadau, which is 171 00:09:52.919 --> 00:09:55.480 kind of ironic because you know, I'm an author, so 172 00:09:55.679 --> 00:09:59.679 it kind of comes full circle. But so that's that's 173 00:09:59.679 --> 00:10:04.240 the historical aspect, that's the fictional aspect of it. And 174 00:10:04.320 --> 00:10:06.600 I kind of blended those two together and my love 175 00:10:06.600 --> 00:10:09.600 of storytelling, my love of writing into what I think 176 00:10:09.720 --> 00:10:14.080 is a really kind of touching story of you know, yes, 177 00:10:14.120 --> 00:10:16.440 it's the first murderer, but it kind of asked the 178 00:10:16.519 --> 00:10:19.679 question like, well, what if Kin asked for redemption? What 179 00:10:20.080 --> 00:10:22.480 what what would happen if he actually sought the redemption. 180 00:10:23.159 --> 00:10:24.440 And throughout the. 181 00:10:24.360 --> 00:10:27.679 Story it's it I think at its core, it's a good, 182 00:10:28.360 --> 00:10:32.720 wholesome story of a grandfather doing whatever he could to 183 00:10:32.720 --> 00:10:33.519 save his grandson. 184 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:38.720 Well, uh, that's one thing too, I tell people is 185 00:10:39.519 --> 00:10:42.960 we are all different and God is you know our father. 186 00:10:43.159 --> 00:10:46.279 So if you have kids, you know each kid has 187 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:49.440 a different personality, each kid has a different love language. 188 00:10:49.879 --> 00:10:53.000 You have to deal with each kid on an individual basis. 189 00:10:53.519 --> 00:10:57.600 And you and your love for storytelling and your love 190 00:10:57.600 --> 00:11:02.559 of story that's how Brian Goodala's work actually touched you 191 00:11:03.200 --> 00:11:06.440 and influenced you. And so therefore this is kind of 192 00:11:06.480 --> 00:11:10.039 your your witness and testimony and way of doing your 193 00:11:10.080 --> 00:11:14.919 part for the kingdom. Me. I was never a very 194 00:11:15.000 --> 00:11:17.120 creative guy and stuff like that, but I always like 195 00:11:17.159 --> 00:11:18.799 to talk, So this is my. 196 00:11:18.840 --> 00:11:20.879 Way there you go. 197 00:11:21.000 --> 00:11:24.960 Yeah, Well, so you had mentioned the title as you 198 00:11:25.000 --> 00:11:29.360 were talking. It was Cain Untold and in the subtitle 199 00:11:29.399 --> 00:11:32.600 it says book one. So this is something that you 200 00:11:32.679 --> 00:11:36.039 are planning a series, kind of like the Nephilin chronicles. 201 00:11:36.440 --> 00:11:38.200 Yeah, more or less modeled after that. 202 00:11:39.440 --> 00:11:42.519 So I'm going to hopefully be bringing out book two 203 00:11:43.000 --> 00:11:47.000 sometime next year. I'm currently going through some rewriting for 204 00:11:47.039 --> 00:11:49.200 a second edition of the first book. I just kind 205 00:11:49.200 --> 00:11:52.039 of want to clean it up, make it as good 206 00:11:52.080 --> 00:11:53.480 and crisp as I possibly can. 207 00:11:53.600 --> 00:11:54.559 Hopefully. 208 00:11:54.159 --> 00:11:58.039 Well, I'm setting the deadline for myself. I'm releasing it 209 00:11:58.080 --> 00:12:03.360 in September, new cover, our new storylines and whatnot, So 210 00:12:03.559 --> 00:12:05.799 I think it's going to be a really robust and 211 00:12:06.120 --> 00:12:09.759 cool story. But yeah, I've kind of in my own 212 00:12:10.159 --> 00:12:12.799 head and in my notes and everything, titled the series 213 00:12:12.799 --> 00:12:16.759 the Kenite Chronicles, and it comes from the concept of 214 00:12:17.200 --> 00:12:20.000 the people group the Kennites in the Bible, who a 215 00:12:20.039 --> 00:12:23.879 lot of people don't realize are descended from, or at 216 00:12:23.919 --> 00:12:28.039 least hinted at being descended from Kine himself. The Kennites, 217 00:12:28.039 --> 00:12:30.600 for folks that don't know, are the people group that 218 00:12:31.519 --> 00:12:34.519 Moses went and stayed with when he fled Pharaoh, when 219 00:12:34.519 --> 00:12:38.799 he fled the land of Egypt. So Zipporah and Jethro, 220 00:12:39.600 --> 00:12:42.720 moses father in law, they were Kennites, and a lot 221 00:12:42.720 --> 00:12:45.080 of the Kenites ended up coming up into the land 222 00:12:45.080 --> 00:12:48.960 of Israel with the Israelites. And there's a lot of 223 00:12:49.039 --> 00:12:52.799 different spots in scripture where the two people groups kind 224 00:12:52.799 --> 00:12:55.159 of intersect. You have the Israelites and the Kenites and 225 00:12:55.440 --> 00:12:59.200 their storylines intersect in some really really cool ways and 226 00:12:59.240 --> 00:13:01.720 in ways that actually kind of speak to that whole 227 00:13:01.720 --> 00:13:04.320 redemption arc that I was talking about with Cain in 228 00:13:04.480 --> 00:13:08.480 a really really fascinating way in the Book of Jeremiah. 229 00:13:08.960 --> 00:13:11.039 Well with Cain, you know, of course, I mean, we 230 00:13:11.039 --> 00:13:14.840 don't want to give away the entire book, but through 231 00:13:14.879 --> 00:13:17.480 your your studies and stuff, because this is not just 232 00:13:18.200 --> 00:13:21.399 a fiction story where you've just you know, made up 233 00:13:21.440 --> 00:13:24.000 in a complete, a complete narrative for Caine, this is 234 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:29.320 something that you've researched and found information, and you've basically 235 00:13:29.360 --> 00:13:33.679 just retold this story but through in some some entertainment 236 00:13:33.759 --> 00:13:36.840 and some storytelling and twists and turns. But the actual 237 00:13:36.879 --> 00:13:40.720 base of this is a biblical base, correct. 238 00:13:40.399 --> 00:13:42.759 Yes, absolutely, I like to think of it as a 239 00:13:42.799 --> 00:13:44.600 novelization of Genesis four. 240 00:13:45.679 --> 00:13:49.559 Okay, Yeah, that's awesome. What with with your studies and 241 00:13:49.600 --> 00:13:54.000 the stuff you found. Was there anything that that you 242 00:13:54.039 --> 00:13:57.080 found out knew that was kind of eye opening for 243 00:13:57.159 --> 00:14:00.480 you or something maybe that you thought you you and 244 00:14:00.679 --> 00:14:03.519 you find out different through your studies and research. 245 00:14:04.080 --> 00:14:08.120 Yes, so absolutely, I'll start with one. When I was 246 00:14:08.159 --> 00:14:11.080 talking about the whole Young Young Earth creationism and kind 247 00:14:11.080 --> 00:14:14.799 of coming out of that sort of worldview. There was 248 00:14:14.879 --> 00:14:17.480 always the question in the back of my head, well, 249 00:14:17.480 --> 00:14:22.200 where did Kane get his wife? And you know, in 250 00:14:22.399 --> 00:14:26.759 reading Young Earth creationist articles, they always would say like, well, 251 00:14:26.840 --> 00:14:29.960 you know, Cain got his wife because it was it 252 00:14:30.000 --> 00:14:32.960 was his sister. He ended up just marrying his sister. 253 00:14:34.919 --> 00:14:38.000 To me, that's kind of strange because later on in 254 00:14:38.039 --> 00:14:43.240 the Torah they are explicit laws that forbid the marriage 255 00:14:43.240 --> 00:14:48.559 of close siblings close relatives. Michael Jones from Inspiring Philosophy 256 00:14:48.600 --> 00:14:51.440 does a really good video about that where he makes 257 00:14:51.480 --> 00:14:54.639 the defense of there being other people outside of the 258 00:14:54.720 --> 00:14:59.519 land of Eden that Caine married into as stating like 259 00:14:59.559 --> 00:15:01.600 that's where he got his wife. And in that he 260 00:15:02.000 --> 00:15:05.320 mentions in the Torah that it forbids the marriage of 261 00:15:05.320 --> 00:15:06.120 close relatives. 262 00:15:06.480 --> 00:15:08.080 So that was one. 263 00:15:07.919 --> 00:15:12.440 Really interesting piece that kind of changed my perspective. Then 264 00:15:12.480 --> 00:15:15.120 I kind of followed that Rabbit Trail were like, if 265 00:15:15.240 --> 00:15:17.240 there were people outside of the land of Eden that 266 00:15:17.320 --> 00:15:20.039 weren't Adam and Eve's kids, where in the world did 267 00:15:20.039 --> 00:15:21.039 they come from? 268 00:15:22.000 --> 00:15:23.440 And I kind. 269 00:15:23.240 --> 00:15:26.399 Of tie that together with the whole Genesis six narrative 270 00:15:26.440 --> 00:15:30.440 the sons of God. See it says that the sons 271 00:15:30.480 --> 00:15:33.879 of God married and married the daughters of Adam. That's 272 00:15:34.120 --> 00:15:38.440 literally how the Hebrew translates. But the phrase sons of 273 00:15:38.480 --> 00:15:42.840 God beneja Alohim, that actually can be translated sons of 274 00:15:42.960 --> 00:15:46.720 the gods. Now what do I mean by that? Sons 275 00:15:46.720 --> 00:15:49.279 of the gods would then mean that whatever these beings 276 00:15:49.360 --> 00:15:54.559 were were descended from the Aloheim, the gods. And in 277 00:15:54.639 --> 00:16:00.240 certain Ugarittic and other Canaanite literature, the Elohim are is 278 00:16:00.279 --> 00:16:04.120 the name given for the actual sons of Elohem, God, 279 00:16:04.320 --> 00:16:06.720 the god el the high God of the Divine Council. 280 00:16:07.879 --> 00:16:12.759 So if these beings, whatever they were, are these sons 281 00:16:12.799 --> 00:16:15.960 of the actual what we would what we normally think 282 00:16:16.000 --> 00:16:18.120 of the sons of God and the Divine Council worldview, 283 00:16:18.600 --> 00:16:21.360 then how did how did they get there? So I 284 00:16:21.440 --> 00:16:24.279 kind of followed that rabbit trail as well, and I 285 00:16:24.320 --> 00:16:27.759 stumbled upon a gentleman by the name of Joshua Swamadas 286 00:16:27.840 --> 00:16:30.279 as Joshua Swamadas, and he wrote a book called the 287 00:16:30.399 --> 00:16:34.840 Genealogical Adam and Eve. And in that book he talks 288 00:16:34.879 --> 00:16:41.000 about how it's completely bil it's completely within biblical means 289 00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:45.279 biblical interpretation to state that Adam and Eve were specially 290 00:16:45.279 --> 00:16:48.879 created from well, Adam created from dust, and then Eve 291 00:16:48.919 --> 00:16:52.639 created from Adam's rib, and then there's still to be 292 00:16:53.200 --> 00:16:57.320 a wider population outside of the land of Ethen that 293 00:16:57.480 --> 00:17:00.279 their children married into, had kids with, so on and 294 00:17:00.320 --> 00:17:05.039 so forth. So I call these in turning this into 295 00:17:05.160 --> 00:17:08.640 like a novelization, I called these other people the wanderers, 296 00:17:09.279 --> 00:17:12.680 and I lay out in the book how these wanderers 297 00:17:12.680 --> 00:17:16.200 are actually people that are descended from the fallen sons 298 00:17:16.200 --> 00:17:20.359 of God. They in psalmighty two, it talks about how 299 00:17:22.240 --> 00:17:25.200 it talks about how the sons of God fell, and 300 00:17:25.920 --> 00:17:28.440 God says that you're going to die like Adam basically 301 00:17:28.440 --> 00:17:29.119 become mortal. 302 00:17:29.559 --> 00:17:30.279 So in the. 303 00:17:30.200 --> 00:17:34.000 Perspective of my book, this fall of the angels occurred 304 00:17:34.079 --> 00:17:38.000 at the same time as Adam's fall, and when they fell, 305 00:17:38.119 --> 00:17:41.119 they basically became mortal, they became human beings. And then 306 00:17:41.160 --> 00:17:43.559 so the wider population outside of the land of Eden 307 00:17:43.720 --> 00:17:45.160 is their descendants. 308 00:17:47.319 --> 00:17:50.240 Yeah, I mean, And that was me once I got 309 00:17:50.240 --> 00:17:53.160 to reading and study and I was asking myself the 310 00:17:53.279 --> 00:17:56.880 question because how it's worded in Genesis, it says you know, 311 00:17:58.039 --> 00:18:01.839 on the sixth Day, he created, know, humanity, male and female, 312 00:18:02.599 --> 00:18:05.799 and then later on you get you know, the details 313 00:18:05.960 --> 00:18:08.799 of the creation of Adam and Eve, and a lot 314 00:18:08.799 --> 00:18:11.680 of people were saying that, oh, that was just a 315 00:18:12.920 --> 00:18:17.119 generalized statement, but then it goes into more detail of 316 00:18:17.160 --> 00:18:19.839 the creation of Adam and Eve. And I was like you, 317 00:18:20.039 --> 00:18:23.559 I sat back, and I was like, they get kicked 318 00:18:23.559 --> 00:18:25.119 out of Eden and then all of a sudden their 319 00:18:25.200 --> 00:18:29.319 kids find mates and stuff. So could it be that 320 00:18:30.079 --> 00:18:33.200 in Genesis they when they said that they he created 321 00:18:33.799 --> 00:18:38.160 humanity and mankind, you know, both male and female. That boom, 322 00:18:38.200 --> 00:18:40.880 He planted all these people on earth. But it was 323 00:18:40.960 --> 00:18:45.279 like Adam and Eve were his special pet project, you 324 00:18:45.359 --> 00:18:47.279 know what I mean, because like they were the ones 325 00:18:47.359 --> 00:18:53.160 that were direct, you know, sons of God, and so 326 00:18:53.240 --> 00:18:55.599 when they fail, they became like everybody else. 327 00:18:57.519 --> 00:19:01.480 Yeah, And that's something that Joshuamaus touches on as well 328 00:19:01.480 --> 00:19:05.160 in his book. He talks about how, you know, the 329 00:19:05.240 --> 00:19:10.039 general creation occurred in Genesis one twenty six, and then 330 00:19:10.079 --> 00:19:13.440 the special creation of Adam and Eve happened afterward. 331 00:19:13.079 --> 00:19:13.839 In Genesis two. 332 00:19:14.480 --> 00:19:17.200 And I think John Walton that also makes mention of 333 00:19:17.240 --> 00:19:19.799 it in his book The Lost World of Adam and Eve, 334 00:19:20.319 --> 00:19:23.160 where he says that he basically describes Adam and Eve's 335 00:19:23.160 --> 00:19:25.680 creation as an eighth day of creation, so like a 336 00:19:25.720 --> 00:19:30.160 totally separate, you know, act of creation in the cosmos. 337 00:19:31.279 --> 00:19:33.519 And a lot of people will sit there and say, well, 338 00:19:33.839 --> 00:19:37.119 God stopped creating on day seven, so that that can't 339 00:19:37.160 --> 00:19:38.920 be it. Well, then what do you say about the 340 00:19:38.920 --> 00:19:42.400 miracles of Jesus. Jesus made bread and fish out of 341 00:19:42.400 --> 00:19:45.640 thin air. Does that mean that He's forbidden from creating 342 00:19:45.680 --> 00:19:48.039 things just because God rested on the seventh day. I 343 00:19:48.039 --> 00:19:49.160 don't think that's the case at all. 344 00:19:50.640 --> 00:19:54.960 Yeah, and that's something too, is everybody's different, but it's 345 00:19:55.079 --> 00:20:02.119 like God created us to want to seek him out 346 00:20:02.440 --> 00:20:06.079 and to ask these questions and to ponder and to seek. 347 00:20:07.119 --> 00:20:09.319 And you know, like I said at the beginning, to 348 00:20:09.400 --> 00:20:12.400 show you know, everybody's different. You know, not everyone's the same, 349 00:20:13.119 --> 00:20:15.440 but it's like the ones that were programmed to want 350 00:20:15.480 --> 00:20:18.519 to seek and find these things out and ask these questions. 351 00:20:18.920 --> 00:20:23.799 Some people, many they build up their fences, you know, 352 00:20:23.880 --> 00:20:26.759 around their yard, and they think that I have to 353 00:20:26.799 --> 00:20:29.279 stay in this yard. I can't cross the fence, I 354 00:20:29.319 --> 00:20:31.680 can't even look over the fence. Well, there's some of 355 00:20:31.759 --> 00:20:34.359 us men that want to hop that fence, yeah, and 356 00:20:34.400 --> 00:20:38.160 go explore. So you can't try to hold those people 357 00:20:38.200 --> 00:20:42.960 back because from my perspective, it's you know, God is 358 00:20:43.000 --> 00:20:46.240 the creator of the universe, and the Word is very important, 359 00:20:47.119 --> 00:20:51.039 but it's like, it's not God and his word is 360 00:20:51.079 --> 00:20:56.400 not so fragile of a thing. By asking good questions 361 00:20:56.519 --> 00:21:00.079 and looking at alternative meanings and things like that, that 362 00:21:00.160 --> 00:21:02.880 you are going to break God or break his word, 363 00:21:02.960 --> 00:21:06.359 and if you do, then you know, he's not a 364 00:21:07.440 --> 00:21:10.319 god worthy of worship anyway, which I don't believe that's 365 00:21:10.359 --> 00:21:15.440 the case. But it's like, yeah, I mean, the Bible 366 00:21:15.559 --> 00:21:17.759 is so important. It's a divine word of God. Don't 367 00:21:18.079 --> 00:21:22.000 take me out of context, anybody listening. But it's like, 368 00:21:23.319 --> 00:21:27.440 there's plenty of things that happened that are documented and 369 00:21:27.559 --> 00:21:30.799 proven history that was not in the Bible. So just 370 00:21:30.839 --> 00:21:33.599 because something's not in the Bible doesn't mean that it 371 00:21:33.640 --> 00:21:36.359 didn't happen. We have to be able to keep an 372 00:21:36.400 --> 00:21:39.319 open mind and ask good questions and to look into things. 373 00:21:39.880 --> 00:21:41.160 Absolutely absolutely. 374 00:21:41.240 --> 00:21:43.240 It's really funny that you bring that up about the 375 00:21:43.240 --> 00:21:47.119 pursuit of knowledge. I actually gave a talk at a 376 00:21:47.160 --> 00:21:49.160 men's prayer breakfast at my church. I think it was 377 00:21:49.160 --> 00:21:51.359 a couple of weeks ago, and that's exactly what I 378 00:21:51.359 --> 00:21:54.640 talked about, is there is a specific group of people 379 00:21:55.200 --> 00:21:59.079 that are not satisfied with whatever answers are just given 380 00:21:59.160 --> 00:22:01.759 us the status quo. They purposely seek out the truth 381 00:22:02.240 --> 00:22:05.640 and were called to do that. As Christians, it's mandated 382 00:22:05.640 --> 00:22:09.160 for us to pursue truth. Jesus Christ is the way, 383 00:22:09.200 --> 00:22:10.680 the truth, and the life, and he says that we 384 00:22:10.759 --> 00:22:12.880 have to pursue him. We have to follow after him. 385 00:22:13.440 --> 00:22:17.000 Come and abide, Come and follow, Come and see. I 386 00:22:17.039 --> 00:22:21.200 gave the example of the great science Renaissance scientist Galileo. 387 00:22:21.599 --> 00:22:26.640 Galileo was the gentleman that came up with He didn't 388 00:22:26.680 --> 00:22:29.640 come up with the heliocentric model, but he basically popularized it. 389 00:22:29.880 --> 00:22:33.720 He came up with the evidence that in favor of 390 00:22:33.759 --> 00:22:35.759 the Sun being the center of the solar system and 391 00:22:35.799 --> 00:22:38.039 all the Earth and all the planets overting around it. 392 00:22:39.359 --> 00:22:42.240 And he was crucified by the Church for it was 393 00:22:42.519 --> 00:22:45.359 he was a Christian man himself. He was, you know, 394 00:22:45.440 --> 00:22:48.799 a godly man. He loved the scripture, he loved his God. 395 00:22:49.119 --> 00:22:52.279 But yet he was still crucified for it because it 396 00:22:52.359 --> 00:22:55.319 threatened the authority of the church. And I think a 397 00:22:55.319 --> 00:22:57.759 lot of times what the type of folks that you 398 00:22:57.759 --> 00:23:00.640 were talking about, that you know, stake their claim their fence, 399 00:23:01.079 --> 00:23:03.640 that's kind of where that comes from. You know, they 400 00:23:03.799 --> 00:23:08.720 feel like their worldview is so rattled and so shaken 401 00:23:08.839 --> 00:23:12.039