WEBVTT 1 00:00:35.359 --> 00:00:38.719 Hello everybody, and welcome the game Spot after Dark, Episode 2 00:00:38.960 --> 00:00:44.039 two hundred and sixty. It's twenty twenty five. I'm your host, 3 00:00:44.079 --> 00:00:46.920 John m. Zack, and I am joined by Jacob Decker. 4 00:00:47.159 --> 00:00:51.799 Should we reset the number episode number? Now that it's live, 5 00:00:51.880 --> 00:00:52.880 now that it's like a new thing. 6 00:00:53.600 --> 00:00:55.759 Well, we're not live yet, so get there. 7 00:00:56.200 --> 00:00:58.520 We're just trying to fill the air. Okay, Yeah, all right, 8 00:00:58.600 --> 00:01:00.759 Well you know what we could talk about. 9 00:01:00.799 --> 00:01:03.439 We can have a discussion live here on the podcast 10 00:01:03.719 --> 00:01:04.239 current Avina. 11 00:01:04.280 --> 00:01:07.560 What are your thoughts about numbers? About numbers, they go up, 12 00:01:07.560 --> 00:01:11.239 they go down, They can be split in half, multiplied 13 00:01:11.359 --> 00:01:15.680 each other. Yeah, split a little armer chair. I think 14 00:01:17.000 --> 00:01:20.920 every time you mentioned that I've mentioned the number, I'm 15 00:01:20.920 --> 00:01:24.599 always a little surprised. Numbers are surprising. 16 00:01:25.560 --> 00:01:28.000 I feel like people like to know how what episode 17 00:01:28.000 --> 00:01:28.959 they're on or what number. 18 00:01:29.159 --> 00:01:31.200 But yeah, we have made it pretty far, you know, 19 00:01:31.239 --> 00:01:32.840 I don't think I don't think we should reach it. 20 00:01:32.920 --> 00:01:33.200 Yeah? 21 00:01:33.480 --> 00:01:35.159 No, But but do we need to say the number 22 00:01:35.200 --> 00:01:37.400 every time? Does that matter? We could just stop saying 23 00:01:37.439 --> 00:01:39.439 the number? We could, like I could put the number 24 00:01:39.439 --> 00:01:40.239 in this about. 25 00:01:39.959 --> 00:01:43.280 Only how about only for like uh important numbers? 26 00:01:43.319 --> 00:01:47.319 You know? Okay, I say it is your decision, Jean Luke, 27 00:01:47.480 --> 00:01:50.239 and it has been in your routine to state the 28 00:01:50.319 --> 00:01:53.680 number in a way, it's like the coordinates of how 29 00:01:53.719 --> 00:01:57.439 far comment And some people just aren't always lost like me, 30 00:01:57.719 --> 00:01:59.560 and I'm always like, wow, look we made it another mind. 31 00:01:59.640 --> 00:02:01.519 Sure you are always surprised every time I have, every. 32 00:02:01.359 --> 00:02:05.319 Single time you are. I'm sure everyone's tired of hearing house. 33 00:02:05.079 --> 00:02:07.959 One hundred and ten fifty seven. 34 00:02:08.520 --> 00:02:11.759 Oh, we're just saying numbers now. 35 00:02:12.240 --> 00:02:14.479 Churt said he's always surprised when he hears the number. 36 00:02:15.919 --> 00:02:16.280 Got it? 37 00:02:16.319 --> 00:02:16.639 Okay? 38 00:02:16.919 --> 00:02:17.719 One sixty seven? 39 00:02:18.000 --> 00:02:21.520 Oh? Hey, really that one? 40 00:02:22.800 --> 00:02:23.479 What are you doing after? 41 00:02:23.840 --> 00:02:28.120 After what you want? You? Look at your sick number. 42 00:02:30.199 --> 00:02:30.639 Two. 43 00:02:31.240 --> 00:02:38.680 That's an even number. I'm not interested. Oh okay, seven. 44 00:02:39.319 --> 00:02:42.560 Oh I'd rather like sixty seven. I rather what they're 45 00:02:42.560 --> 00:02:44.759 doing at the end of the night than sixty nine. 46 00:02:44.919 --> 00:02:47.159 Oh they're too easy. Yeah. 47 00:02:47.560 --> 00:02:49.960 I like sixty seven because it's the opposite of seventy six. 48 00:02:50.120 --> 00:02:54.280 So it's like, if it was good, if it was good, yeah, 49 00:02:54.759 --> 00:02:56.280 they should make they should make a good fallout and 50 00:02:56.319 --> 00:02:57.319 call it fallout. 51 00:02:57.000 --> 00:03:01.680 If it was good, sixty seven and underneath it if 52 00:03:01.680 --> 00:03:02.240 it was good. 53 00:03:02.680 --> 00:03:05.560 Yeah, that's the tackle. 54 00:03:05.639 --> 00:03:08.120 It's good. Now, Yeah, we made a good one this time. 55 00:03:08.199 --> 00:03:09.360 We flipped the numbers. We did it. 56 00:03:09.960 --> 00:03:12.199 You've been asking for it. 57 00:03:12.639 --> 00:03:15.840 There's lots of people who love bad game. There are. 58 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:17.840 And and you know what, I used to have a backpack. 59 00:03:18.879 --> 00:03:21.000 It's true that that backpack had nothing to do with 60 00:03:21.039 --> 00:03:22.479 my my opinion on that game. 61 00:03:23.319 --> 00:03:24.280 It was a nice one though. 62 00:03:24.319 --> 00:03:26.120 It was a nice backpack. But then you know what, 63 00:03:26.199 --> 00:03:28.000 the buckles broke and I threw it in the trash. 64 00:03:28.159 --> 00:03:30.400 Now I have a nice Stalker two backpack that I 65 00:03:30.439 --> 00:03:34.039 don't use for work, but it's now my earthquake prepper bag. 66 00:03:34.159 --> 00:03:38.199 Perfect And that's amazing, a little bit too accurate, too close. 67 00:03:38.479 --> 00:03:41.599 Well, a few weeks ago we had those like two 68 00:03:41.639 --> 00:03:43.080 in a day. And then like I got home and 69 00:03:43.120 --> 00:03:45.360 George is like, we're making a prepper bag. 70 00:03:45.439 --> 00:03:46.800 You know. It's like did you not have one prior? 71 00:03:47.039 --> 00:03:48.800 Well we did, but it wasn't a very good one, 72 00:03:48.840 --> 00:03:50.479 and we're like, we need it. We have a better one. 73 00:03:50.680 --> 00:03:51.919 And then I was like, well should we use And 74 00:03:51.919 --> 00:03:56.199 I was like, I got this Stalker too Collector's edition 75 00:03:56.319 --> 00:03:59.360 bag back Well, if there's an earthquake and you need it, 76 00:03:59.400 --> 00:04:01.759 and I see, I'll be like, what's. 77 00:04:01.520 --> 00:04:05.280 Up, dude? Yeah, hey stalker dude, you're a real cool guy. 78 00:04:05.360 --> 00:04:07.520 I bet you've seen some action on time. 79 00:04:07.800 --> 00:04:09.719 The unfortunate thing is I'll be dead because the bag 80 00:04:09.719 --> 00:04:10.639 will be only full. 81 00:04:10.479 --> 00:04:11.360 Of like bolts. 82 00:04:11.560 --> 00:04:14.280 Yeah, it'll be full of It'll be full of weighs 83 00:04:14.319 --> 00:04:17.399 like one hundred and twenty towns like bolts, what salami? 84 00:04:17.639 --> 00:04:19.639 Some like cantona, But you know why, I eat with 85 00:04:19.680 --> 00:04:20.959 like a fork and then. 86 00:04:21.279 --> 00:04:24.279 An obscene amount of vodka and energy drinks that you 87 00:04:24.399 --> 00:04:27.079 just never never get through any of it. But I'm 88 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:28.560 just like, I guess I'm just gonna drink this now. 89 00:04:30.480 --> 00:04:33.439 It's the first podcast of twenty twenty five, and no 90 00:04:33.439 --> 00:04:35.639 one's gonna hear it. No, no, no, we're gonna we're 91 00:04:35.639 --> 00:04:38.800 gonna probably publish this one. Oh I think so. Yeah, 92 00:04:39.120 --> 00:04:39.879 we're talking about that one. 93 00:04:40.079 --> 00:04:40.680 Yeah, that makes sense. 94 00:04:40.680 --> 00:04:44.639 We should probably publish it. So for context, we were 95 00:04:44.639 --> 00:04:46.519 not here the first two weeks of the year because 96 00:04:47.279 --> 00:04:50.399 we were having our studio built. 97 00:04:50.560 --> 00:04:51.759 Which can be seen in one video. 98 00:04:51.839 --> 00:04:54.360 You could be seen in one video. It's a pretty 99 00:04:54.360 --> 00:04:57.959 good one. Should go check it out. It's Kurt's the 100 00:04:57.959 --> 00:05:01.639 only switch breakdown you need to see. Yeah, I think 101 00:05:01.639 --> 00:05:02.920 we could have come up with a better title for 102 00:05:02.920 --> 00:05:03.279 that one. 103 00:05:03.639 --> 00:05:05.839 Yeah, but it was late on a Thursday. 104 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:08.079 I think I think we should just like lean into 105 00:05:09.160 --> 00:05:13.000 more I don't know, nonsensical, not nonsensical, but more just 106 00:05:13.040 --> 00:05:15.600 like a chaotic chaotic. 107 00:05:15.759 --> 00:05:17.519 Yeah, I mean I do. There's something about the only 108 00:05:17.560 --> 00:05:21.240 break the only switch to breakdown you need to see. Yeah, 109 00:05:21.319 --> 00:05:24.040 But to me, breakdown had two meanings in that title. 110 00:05:24.120 --> 00:05:26.120 I think that's I think breakdown to the part. That's 111 00:05:26.439 --> 00:05:28.839 where we could have that's the or we could have 112 00:05:28.879 --> 00:05:30.680 leaned more into the breakdown part. I think we really 113 00:05:30.720 --> 00:05:32.560 should have leaned into that. Anyway, it's a good video. 114 00:05:32.720 --> 00:05:35.560 You get a little teaser of what the studio is. 115 00:05:35.600 --> 00:05:36.560 I'm excited to do the. 116 00:05:36.480 --> 00:05:40.759 Full reveal, but for now audio only for this podcast still, 117 00:05:40.879 --> 00:05:44.560 but eventually, the plan is we are gonna go live again. 118 00:05:44.600 --> 00:05:47.639 We're gonna do video again. It's gonna be up on 119 00:05:47.680 --> 00:05:51.319 the YouTube channel. Very exciting, it'll be it'll be cool 120 00:05:51.319 --> 00:05:52.800 to do that again after a while. 121 00:05:52.720 --> 00:05:53.079 Yeah, I think. 122 00:05:54.439 --> 00:05:56.680 But for now, Yeah, we have a new studio. We 123 00:05:56.720 --> 00:05:59.519 have a new office. Do you guys want to talk 124 00:05:59.519 --> 00:06:00.439 about the office at all? 125 00:06:00.879 --> 00:06:04.279 Its desks, Kurt can't put nails in the way side. 126 00:06:04.519 --> 00:06:06.480 Yeah, I veto for putting a nail on the wall. 127 00:06:06.600 --> 00:06:08.800 Which one of these? I mean when you're not around. 128 00:06:08.959 --> 00:06:10.279 Oh yeah, I mean I'll just show up and I'll 129 00:06:10.319 --> 00:06:12.800 be there, so as long as if I didn't. If 130 00:06:12.839 --> 00:06:15.399 you do that while I'm not there, I'm not culpable. 131 00:06:16.800 --> 00:06:19.600 Yeah, exactly, and then no one will, you know, I'll 132 00:06:19.639 --> 00:06:22.000 have to answer to no one. I just want you know, 133 00:06:22.079 --> 00:06:24.920 I I it's I see I have a wall next 134 00:06:24.920 --> 00:06:26.879 on my desk where I'm really excited about. That's what 135 00:06:26.959 --> 00:06:27.720 it was important to. 136 00:06:27.759 --> 00:06:33.240 You specifically asked for a corner desk that faces a 137 00:06:33.240 --> 00:06:34.680 wall so you don't have to look at anyone. 138 00:06:34.800 --> 00:06:38.600 Yes, which you have exactly, and it's fantastic. And there's 139 00:06:38.639 --> 00:06:41.279 nothing on my desk except for a portrait of Laura Palmer. 140 00:06:41.600 --> 00:06:44.240 Uh, which we will probably hire a guy to hang 141 00:06:44.319 --> 00:06:44.759 up at. 142 00:06:44.600 --> 00:06:46.560 Some point, or I'll just stay there in front of 143 00:06:46.560 --> 00:06:47.120 my monitor. 144 00:06:47.800 --> 00:06:49.439 Know I'm gonna I'm gonna hire a guy to hang 145 00:06:49.439 --> 00:06:49.839 it up. 146 00:06:49.959 --> 00:06:52.160 But I have a I have a wall that nail. 147 00:06:52.279 --> 00:06:54.680 You don't get him get a nail. Yeah, they won't 148 00:06:54.680 --> 00:06:57.160 want to set anybody anyways. I just want to put 149 00:06:57.160 --> 00:06:59.319 a nail into the wall to hang my headphones on 150 00:06:59.399 --> 00:07:01.600 and John on because it was like, why don't you 151 00:07:01.639 --> 00:07:03.839 get a hook And I'm like, we'll show me some hooks. 152 00:07:03.879 --> 00:07:05.399 And then I looked at all the hooks, I was like, 153 00:07:05.720 --> 00:07:10.040 I want a nail. I would rather put a nail 154 00:07:10.040 --> 00:07:11.519 on the wall and just hang my headphones on them. 155 00:07:13.360 --> 00:07:19.000 I don't need. Is that it some sticky you know craft? 156 00:07:19.120 --> 00:07:23.120 What the fuck Scott's Scotch tape item craft glue? I know. Yeah, 157 00:07:23.600 --> 00:07:25.319 a nail and a hammer will do just fine. That 158 00:07:25.399 --> 00:07:30.000 will solve most problems in your life. Okay, I believe 159 00:07:30.040 --> 00:07:31.399 it anyway. So yeah, we have a new office. We 160 00:07:31.439 --> 00:07:32.160 have a new office. 161 00:07:32.720 --> 00:07:35.920 Chairs, desks, chairs, desks, this cool studio all built out 162 00:07:35.920 --> 00:07:37.399 for the most part coming together. 163 00:07:38.199 --> 00:07:40.560 You just got to a lot of cables in here. Yeah, 164 00:07:40.879 --> 00:07:42.959 run a lot of cables. We need to treat the audio. 165 00:07:42.959 --> 00:07:44.879 I think it's still a little echoey in here. You'll 166 00:07:44.879 --> 00:07:46.920 probably hear it in the in the pod maybe, but 167 00:07:47.399 --> 00:07:52.279 I think that could be reduced a little bit if possible. 168 00:07:53.279 --> 00:07:57.319 But yeah, otherwise, like, I'm. 169 00:07:56.120 --> 00:07:57.920 Wow, we did it. I don't know. 170 00:07:58.000 --> 00:08:00.279 It's it's weird. So I have like a weird relationship 171 00:08:00.319 --> 00:08:06.279 with studiodios in that when I came in, we had 172 00:08:06.439 --> 00:08:09.879 just built a new studio. When I first started game 173 00:08:09.920 --> 00:08:14.040 spot back at the CBS office, it was okay, it 174 00:08:14.120 --> 00:08:15.519 was okay looking, but it was like. 175 00:08:15.519 --> 00:08:18.720 Yeah, it was better than the previous studio that we 176 00:08:18.759 --> 00:08:21.160 had because I was there for the third floor as well, 177 00:08:21.199 --> 00:08:23.639 and that studio was like fashioned in the center of 178 00:08:23.680 --> 00:08:27.800 the room, like they put up walls, wires, cables going. 179 00:08:27.839 --> 00:08:30.439 I thought that one looked better, but I heard functional. 180 00:08:30.480 --> 00:08:32.120 He was maybe a little old. Yeah, it. 181 00:08:33.799 --> 00:08:35.879 It had a lot more character, I think than the 182 00:08:35.879 --> 00:08:39.039 the CBS one or not. I mean they're both CBS ones, 183 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:41.000 but the first floor one, just because. 184 00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:42.440 That was my problem with the first flour one. I 185 00:08:42.440 --> 00:08:48.759 thought it was just very dull, black character. So Ever 186 00:08:48.799 --> 00:08:51.639 since then, I've always been like, one day I'll get 187 00:08:51.639 --> 00:08:54.679 to build my own studio and I'll have all the 188 00:08:54.720 --> 00:08:56.559 things I want and no one can tell me what 189 00:08:56.679 --> 00:09:01.639 to do. And there were several times times where I 190 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:06.240 got agonizingly close. First time we were owned by Red Ventures, 191 00:09:07.399 --> 00:09:09.759 they were like, we're gonna build you guys a studio 192 00:09:10.279 --> 00:09:13.679 on the sixth floor, and we're like, great, you can 193 00:09:13.720 --> 00:09:16.360 have this space. Do you remember that that that that 194 00:09:16.480 --> 00:09:19.879 room in the middle, it was a giant fish bowl glassroom, 195 00:09:20.320 --> 00:09:22.120 and we're like, yeah, we can use Like it's big, 196 00:09:22.200 --> 00:09:23.759 we can use it. It's kind of cool. People can 197 00:09:23.759 --> 00:09:25.799 walk by and see what's going on. That's kind of interesting. 198 00:09:26.960 --> 00:09:29.399 It's probably for the best, I mean, for many reasons, 199 00:09:29.440 --> 00:09:31.120 but it probably would have been the best space for 200 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:32.399 a studio at. 201 00:09:32.279 --> 00:09:34.120 The end of the day, but it still would have 202 00:09:34.120 --> 00:09:37.120 been like you know, it's like in the options we had, 203 00:09:37.120 --> 00:09:40.200 it was like great, and then they were like they 204 00:09:40.240 --> 00:09:42.519 were like, we went through, we like talked with people, 205 00:09:43.039 --> 00:09:44.519 and then just suddenly they're like, oh, yeah, we don't 206 00:09:44.519 --> 00:09:47.600 want to do that. We're gonna turn it into a 207 00:09:47.600 --> 00:09:51.480 meeting room. In fact, that whole can I ran about 208 00:09:51.519 --> 00:09:53.120 that floor for a second and how weird it was. 209 00:09:53.960 --> 00:09:58.000 They said, no one can have offices anymore. All of 210 00:09:58.039 --> 00:10:01.200 these all of these old offices are now either like 211 00:10:01.559 --> 00:10:04.720 meeting rooms or storage closets. No one's allowed to have 212 00:10:04.799 --> 00:10:05.399 an office. 213 00:10:05.679 --> 00:10:08.519 Oh that is right, Yeah, because if I remember right there, 214 00:10:08.559 --> 00:10:10.240 like Randy was like out with us in the pit. 215 00:10:10.679 --> 00:10:12.399 Yes, like no one had an office. 216 00:10:12.440 --> 00:10:14.320 It was former editor in chief, yes. 217 00:10:14.320 --> 00:10:14.759 Game spot. 218 00:10:14.799 --> 00:10:15.000 Yeah. 219 00:10:15.000 --> 00:10:17.240 It was weird. It was really weird Ben Howard who 220 00:10:17.279 --> 00:10:21.279 was even yeah, like even even hiring, and like, to 221 00:10:21.279 --> 00:10:22.360 some degree, that's interesting. 222 00:10:22.440 --> 00:10:26.720 It's interesting idea. But it also was like but then 223 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:28.360 we would be like, hey, can we use that room 224 00:10:28.720 --> 00:10:31.200 like for a thing, and they'd be like no. We'd 225 00:10:31.200 --> 00:10:34.080 be like why. They'd be like, we have a policy, 226 00:10:34.080 --> 00:10:37.320 you're not allowed to like we want open encourage open thing, 227 00:10:37.360 --> 00:10:39.120 and we're like okay, cool, but like can we like 228 00:10:39.519 --> 00:10:42.080 there's also like record vio in that room and they're 229 00:10:42.120 --> 00:10:44.000 like no. There was also a huge floor and there's 230 00:10:44.039 --> 00:10:46.960 like no more than like seven people there any given 231 00:10:47.000 --> 00:10:49.000 to Yeah, like the amount of wasted. 232 00:10:49.039 --> 00:10:51.960 Hundreds of desks, yeah, empty stay. 233 00:10:52.000 --> 00:10:54.639 I took like an old like podcast room and converted 234 00:10:54.679 --> 00:10:59.000 it into what we used for the podcast for a while. 235 00:10:59.639 --> 00:11:01.399 I took giant bomb desk and brought it in there 236 00:11:01.399 --> 00:11:03.519 at all janky as all heck, I had a saw 237 00:11:03.519 --> 00:11:07.159 a table and a half because that yes, that table 238 00:11:07.159 --> 00:11:09.759 there was like fixed and I was like, why you 239 00:11:09.799 --> 00:11:12.240 want to get rid of this? And the only way 240 00:11:12.240 --> 00:11:18.639 to do it was like the guy who like what's 241 00:11:18.679 --> 00:11:21.000 his name, but he like he like ran the office 242 00:11:21.120 --> 00:11:22.960 right like you would like if you needed something like 243 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:24.679 maintenancetant and you would message him. 244 00:11:24.799 --> 00:11:25.639 He like came in with like. 245 00:11:25.639 --> 00:11:28.960 A saw one day. I was just like, just like, 246 00:11:30.080 --> 00:11:31.679 we just saw that table off. 247 00:11:32.360 --> 00:11:35.799 I completely forgot about that little podcast area. I like 248 00:11:35.840 --> 00:11:36.919 wiped it from my brain. 249 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:39.320 What's super funny about that is I found out later 250 00:11:39.720 --> 00:11:42.919 that because I like did all that work, sawed it off. 251 00:11:42.960 --> 00:11:45.279 We used it for like a few months, and then 252 00:11:45.320 --> 00:11:48.600 afterwards we got bought by Fandom and moved out of there. 253 00:11:49.799 --> 00:11:54.919 The when it got sawed, Eric Tay already knew that 254 00:11:54.960 --> 00:11:58.080 we were going to get sold, that we were in 255 00:11:58.159 --> 00:12:01.519 talks of that, so he was like, he was like, oh, 256 00:12:01.559 --> 00:12:03.600 I want to I want to tell him, like to 257 00:12:03.639 --> 00:12:05.480 not put in all that work, but also I can't 258 00:12:05.480 --> 00:12:07.840 tell them, So I just got to let him saw 259 00:12:07.879 --> 00:12:10.440 that table, which to me was like fine, I don't care, 260 00:12:10.559 --> 00:12:11.639 but it's kind of satisfying. 261 00:12:11.639 --> 00:12:12.240 And saw the table. 262 00:12:12.240 --> 00:12:13.720 It was remember satisfying. 263 00:12:13.759 --> 00:12:15.039 We were looking forward to it. 264 00:12:15.120 --> 00:12:17.919 Yeah, in some ways I would encourage you to destroy 265 00:12:17.960 --> 00:12:20.360 anything you want, regardless. 266 00:12:19.679 --> 00:12:22.240 Of like walls with. 267 00:12:23.799 --> 00:12:32.279 Anything. Yeah, throw that mug. I've had it since anyways. 268 00:12:32.279 --> 00:12:35.440 But the I will say the studio though, is is 269 00:12:35.720 --> 00:12:40.159 very important because it was a process It was obviously 270 00:12:40.200 --> 00:12:42.039 something important to to be able to do it, but 271 00:12:42.039 --> 00:12:44.279 I feel like it was a we as a group 272 00:12:44.320 --> 00:12:46.279 were able to put in feedback and actually be a 273 00:12:46.320 --> 00:12:46.600 part of that. 274 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:49.200 Yes, exactly. Yeah, long story short, I have been wanting 275 00:12:49.240 --> 00:12:52.759 to make a long time coming have an actual studio. 276 00:12:53.120 --> 00:12:55.320 Finally got to do one, and like was able to 277 00:12:56.440 --> 00:12:59.679 fully like have a vision, work with a designer. 278 00:13:00.840 --> 00:13:02.759 I even have a tinge of romanticism in this too, 279 00:13:02.840 --> 00:13:06.039 because I had a vision for a show that I 280 00:13:06.080 --> 00:13:10.080 did in twenty twenty cold remember when right before the 281 00:13:10.120 --> 00:13:12.639 pandemic hit, and we were in the midst of like 282 00:13:13.840 --> 00:13:16.200 building a set for it, and it was supposed to 283 00:13:16.279 --> 00:13:19.679 be this sort of clutter core idea of having every 284 00:13:19.720 --> 00:13:22.399 single tool imaginable behind me that I can pick up 285 00:13:22.440 --> 00:13:24.919 and physically make something, and then actually leaked into this 286 00:13:25.000 --> 00:13:26.720 set too. So we have like a work bench, which 287 00:13:26.759 --> 00:13:28.840 is kind of in my brain of was slight winking 288 00:13:28.840 --> 00:13:30.399 a nod and a homage to something that could have 289 00:13:30.399 --> 00:13:33.679 been but never was. But now we have it. Yeah, Yeah, 290 00:13:34.000 --> 00:13:34.639 it's exciting. 291 00:13:35.720 --> 00:13:37.639 Anyway, we'll probably talk about this more once people can 292 00:13:37.639 --> 00:13:40.840 actually see it. It's maybe not as interesting just hearing 293 00:13:40.879 --> 00:13:43.120 about it. You just have to take our word for it. 294 00:13:44.000 --> 00:13:46.600 Watch the watch. 295 00:13:45.720 --> 00:13:49.519 The switch to you'll see the work bench that I get. 296 00:13:49.559 --> 00:13:51.559 The work bench, which is maybe the coolest part of 297 00:13:51.600 --> 00:13:53.240 the whole set, in my opinion, it's really cool. 298 00:13:53.279 --> 00:13:55.799 I think it's the most confusing and most interesting interesting. 299 00:13:55.840 --> 00:13:57.960 I think the coolest part about the work bench is 300 00:13:57.960 --> 00:14:01.279 it as a functioning work banche like like, there's there's 301 00:14:01.320 --> 00:14:02.320 a soldering gun there. 302 00:14:02.720 --> 00:14:03.200 It works. 303 00:14:03.559 --> 00:14:05.159 Yeah, it's like a real soldering gun. 304 00:14:05.279 --> 00:14:06.799 Yeah. 305 00:14:06.879 --> 00:14:08.840 And a coffee pot and a coffee pot that you 306 00:14:08.879 --> 00:14:12.799 could make coffee and if you make some blend. Yeah, well, 307 00:14:12.879 --> 00:14:17.080 unfortunately that coffee sad. What you're to the disappointment of Kurt. 308 00:14:17.080 --> 00:14:18.879 When I brought it, I was like, why the fuck 309 00:14:18.960 --> 00:14:21.759 did they send us a bag filled with foam? Where's 310 00:14:21.799 --> 00:14:22.840 the fucking coffee? 311 00:14:23.080 --> 00:14:25.320 You were about to like message remedy pre. 312 00:14:25.799 --> 00:14:28.639 Like yeah, like Sam, we need to talk. What is 313 00:14:28.679 --> 00:14:31.000 going on? What does this make believe? Coffee or sending 314 00:14:31.039 --> 00:14:33.639 him back? Stop it's not from. 315 00:14:33.399 --> 00:14:43.840 Them, hm, video games? What I know, we're podcasts about 316 00:14:43.919 --> 00:14:44.559 video games. 317 00:14:44.960 --> 00:14:45.759 Sometimes. 318 00:14:46.440 --> 00:14:49.840 I wanted to Okay, here's how I wanted to start 319 00:14:49.879 --> 00:14:52.679 the new year. I want to hear from you guys. 320 00:14:53.080 --> 00:14:55.799 With the first thing that comes to your head, no thoughts. 321 00:14:56.159 --> 00:14:57.360 You don't have a chance to look it up on 322 00:14:57.399 --> 00:14:59.600 your phone because you don't have your phone, except for 323 00:14:59.639 --> 00:15:01.919 Jake does have his phone, but I have an important call. 324 00:15:02.240 --> 00:15:03.759 But otherwise you normally don't have your phone. 325 00:15:03.799 --> 00:15:05.600 Yeah, leave your damn phone to the door. As our 326 00:15:05.639 --> 00:15:06.840 a new model for this podcast. 327 00:15:06.840 --> 00:15:09.919 By the way, what is the most What is the 328 00:15:09.919 --> 00:15:11.960 game you are most excited about? Like, first thing that 329 00:15:11.960 --> 00:15:14.519 comes to your head this year? First thing doesn't matter. 330 00:15:15.000 --> 00:15:19.039 I only see colors. Give me a color red. 331 00:15:20.240 --> 00:15:24.320 Okay, ah, this is like, of course it is, but 332 00:15:24.480 --> 00:15:27.360 like and it's probably gonna get delayed. But like GTA six, 333 00:15:27.440 --> 00:15:30.240 I'm really curious to see what you know? 334 00:15:31.919 --> 00:15:35.600 Okay, what is coming out this year? I don't know. 335 00:15:37.000 --> 00:15:39.639 You think I know my phone with me. I don't 336 00:15:39.639 --> 00:15:42.759 remember anything past, like what comes out in two weeks? Actually, 337 00:15:43.000 --> 00:15:44.720 I will say, wait, can I see the switch to 338 00:15:45.039 --> 00:15:47.919 that's not a game, but like, oh yeah, whatever's more exciting. 339 00:15:49.159 --> 00:15:50.879 I think that's what Kurt what maybe meant because he 340 00:15:50.879 --> 00:15:53.840 said red, Yeah, just rich red the box? 341 00:15:55.279 --> 00:15:58.759 No, I just all read because you see colors. 342 00:15:58.360 --> 00:16:00.759 Yeah, and I think subconsciously switch. 343 00:16:01.799 --> 00:16:03.559 Well, no, because if you're going to see the switch 344 00:16:03.600 --> 00:16:06.159 to you'd see like gray with like a little accent 345 00:16:06.639 --> 00:16:10.159 of blue, because there's not you can't really see it though. 346 00:16:10.000 --> 00:16:14.000 You can, Yes you can. It's it's there. It's just gray. 347 00:16:14.320 --> 00:16:16.559 This is up to there's no fun left. 348 00:16:16.639 --> 00:16:19.399 Yeah, and oh I know, yeah, because anything that's all 349 00:16:19.440 --> 00:16:22.440 black or all gray is just a fucking loser. Apparently. 350 00:16:22.679 --> 00:16:25.120 Yeah, you said it, not me. 351 00:16:26.399 --> 00:16:31.720 Watch the video watch to see my breakdown about it. 352 00:16:31.799 --> 00:16:33.840 My sincere answer is, I don't know. I can't think 353 00:16:33.840 --> 00:16:35.320 of any I don't know what's coming out this year. 354 00:16:35.639 --> 00:16:37.879 I think that's a totally validance, and. 355 00:16:37.759 --> 00:16:43.639 I think in ways that's a uh, just emblematic of 356 00:16:43.679 --> 00:16:46.559 my how I kind of view my everyday experience with 357 00:16:46.639 --> 00:16:49.960 video games currently. So I think there is. I mean, 358 00:16:50.159 --> 00:16:53.799 it's the thing where we got one. Okay, this is 359 00:16:53.840 --> 00:16:54.440 actually true. 360 00:16:55.240 --> 00:16:57.320 If this is a hidden object game, don't say another words. 361 00:16:57.440 --> 00:17:00.240 I know this is actually a very sincere I'm hunt 362 00:17:00.279 --> 00:17:06.559 down the days true Fear for Saving from Part True 363 00:17:07.519 --> 00:17:10.160 for sa Consuls Part three, Part three? 364 00:17:10.440 --> 00:17:11.519 Is that a hidden object game? 365 00:17:11.880 --> 00:17:12.920 Yes? I totally did. 366 00:17:13.799 --> 00:17:16.559 Well, that's I mean, no actual game would be called that. 367 00:17:16.880 --> 00:17:19.960 I want to know why it's three parts? Is it 368 00:17:19.960 --> 00:17:24.440 one continuous. It's a saga, okay, So like, does each 369 00:17:25.640 --> 00:17:28.480 part have a like a mystery that they solve or 370 00:17:28.519 --> 00:17:28.720 is it? 371 00:17:28.799 --> 00:17:32.200 Like No, they're sequels, they're not. They're not self contained stories. 372 00:17:32.599 --> 00:17:37.480 So you get Cliffhanger, Cliff Wow. Is this the Is 373 00:17:37.480 --> 00:17:39.440 it a trilogy? I don't know if it's intended to 374 00:17:39.480 --> 00:17:40.759 be a trilogy or if it's working to have a 375 00:17:40.759 --> 00:17:44.240 part four and parts. Does it come out? I believe 376 00:17:44.240 --> 00:17:45.000 it comes out in March. 377 00:17:45.279 --> 00:17:48.039 Okay, And they released one of those every three months probably. 378 00:17:48.319 --> 00:17:52.319 This this particular company releases them like every five to 379 00:17:52.440 --> 00:17:56.160 sixty years like that, like the development cycle for these games. 380 00:17:56.839 --> 00:18:00.799 Unlike other hidden object games which are pumped out every 381 00:18:00.839 --> 00:18:05.319 single damn day. This company actually is very small, independent 382 00:18:05.559 --> 00:18:08.079 and does not use the engine that every hidden object 383 00:18:08.079 --> 00:18:12.559 game uses. They made this independently, so it's not part 384 00:18:12.559 --> 00:18:15.039 of like the big Fish Games nonsense or any of 385 00:18:15.079 --> 00:18:15.519 that crap. 386 00:18:15.920 --> 00:18:18.000 So no, what is big Fish For those who don't know. 387 00:18:18.640 --> 00:18:19.200 It's a movie. 388 00:18:20.240 --> 00:18:24.839 Yeah, it's Tim Burton film. Big Fish Games is the 389 00:18:25.480 --> 00:18:30.039 probably the biggest distributor of hidden object games or in general, 390 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:32.279 casual games. In most cases, a lot of games you'll 391 00:18:32.279 --> 00:18:35.480 find on the app store are probably published by Big 392 00:18:35.519 --> 00:18:38.480 Fish Games MHM, which I finally got the app for 393 00:18:38.640 --> 00:18:41.359 SO part three. So yes, true maybe maybe the end 394 00:18:41.359 --> 00:18:43.799 of a True Fear Part three or True Fear for 395 00:18:43.839 --> 00:18:44.720 Saken Soul's Part three. 396 00:18:44.759 --> 00:18:46.440 I hope they make like eight of them because I 397 00:18:46.440 --> 00:18:49.039 hope so too. I think trilogies are for lasers. 398 00:18:49.240 --> 00:18:53.279 Well, well, I could see them maybe wrapping up what 399 00:18:53.400 --> 00:18:59.079 is it True Fear Forsaken Identity Souls. I feel like they'll. 400 00:18:58.880 --> 00:19:01.519 Wrap up the Forsaken Soul's trilogy, but keep going with 401 00:19:01.599 --> 00:19:04.160 True Fear, you know, maybe like True you haven't even 402 00:19:04.160 --> 00:19:04.640 played them. 403 00:19:04.839 --> 00:19:07.000 I've played them all three. 404 00:19:07.119 --> 00:19:09.200 I think they should lean into are there any that 405 00:19:09.279 --> 00:19:12.039 like have like a like a character, you know, like 406 00:19:13.279 --> 00:19:13.680 it's one of the. 407 00:19:13.640 --> 00:19:16.400 Only hidden object games that has a continuation of a character. 408 00:19:16.759 --> 00:19:19.160 Of Ok, you know, like because I'm thinking like this 409 00:19:19.279 --> 00:19:22.960 old like you know, like like Tom Klantz is like 410 00:19:23.039 --> 00:19:25.119 Jack Ryan series, like like I want. 411 00:19:25.000 --> 00:19:26.519 I thought Tom Klans is the main character of all 412 00:19:26.519 --> 00:19:27.279 those games. 413 00:19:28.839 --> 00:19:29.359 And books. 414 00:19:30.039 --> 00:19:32.000 He's just writing around himself. Yeah, I thought I thought 415 00:19:32.000 --> 00:19:33.599 that was all autobiographical. 416 00:19:35.160 --> 00:19:39.880 I wish we've talked about this before about how hidden 417 00:19:39.880 --> 00:19:44.759 object games have a are like the potential for the genre. 418 00:19:44.880 --> 00:19:48.200 Actually like works. Well, I just had an idea remedy 419 00:19:49.200 --> 00:19:52.640 Alex Casey hidden object games, it's no brainer, That's what 420 00:19:52.640 --> 00:19:55.920 I'm saying. Like you solve cases as Alex Casey. 421 00:19:55.799 --> 00:19:58.440 It's a no brainer everything. They could make a series 422 00:19:58.480 --> 00:20:00.000 of them. 423 00:20:00.039 --> 00:20:03.880 I get sad about having that without James McCaffrey, though. 424 00:20:05.799 --> 00:20:07.519 I mean to put it in what it's worth. It's 425 00:20:07.640 --> 00:20:09.440 you know, you don't have to have a lot of 426 00:20:09.480 --> 00:20:12.119 these don't even have voice acting. Sure, that's true. All 427 00:20:12.160 --> 00:20:14.680 I'm saying is that there's so much opportunity left on 428 00:20:14.720 --> 00:20:18.400 the table because people ignore a genre because it like 429 00:20:18.920 --> 00:20:21.240 hidden object games, because it's like, oh, it's like it's 430 00:20:21.240 --> 00:20:22.279 casual games. Fuck. 431 00:20:22.359 --> 00:20:25.279 You know, I just neuinely think an Alex Casey an 432 00:20:25.279 --> 00:20:27.200 object game. I think that would do bangers. 433 00:20:27.319 --> 00:20:30.079 Yeah, trust me, it's it's astonishing what it was like 434 00:20:30.119 --> 00:20:33.240 you it's it's it's a it's a genre and in 435 00:20:33.400 --> 00:20:37.880 form of game design that could be applied to anything, anything. 436 00:20:37.920 --> 00:20:41.279 And if you're just like, say, you know, Jake right 437 00:20:41.279 --> 00:20:43.079 here loves what do you love? 438 00:20:43.160 --> 00:20:45.200 He loves cyberpunk Horizon zero? 439 00:20:45.240 --> 00:20:48.279 Don okay? You love the Horizon zero dona okay? No, 440 00:20:48.359 --> 00:20:50.359 that's it. You love Horizon zero, I'm giving you a 441 00:20:50.400 --> 00:20:54.359 hard one. Could that work? I believe it, because well, 442 00:20:54.400 --> 00:20:54.799 they tried to. 443 00:20:54.799 --> 00:20:56.640 Make it a lego game and it didn't work very well. 444 00:20:56.960 --> 00:20:59.039 Well, that's because they just tried to put an action 445 00:20:59.160 --> 00:21:02.599 game that was already antion game into a softer action game, 446 00:21:02.640 --> 00:21:05.119 like a soft softer action genre. My whole idea is, 447 00:21:05.119 --> 00:21:09.079 say you've spent your entire day playing your favorite game series, 448 00:21:09.240 --> 00:21:10.079 Horizon zero. 449 00:21:10.480 --> 00:21:15.359 Don don't put those words in Forbidden West. Let's do Resue. 450 00:21:15.880 --> 00:21:19.920 We're gonna stick with Horizon zero Forbidden Dawn, and you've 451 00:21:20.039 --> 00:21:22.240 just spent all day playing it, and Jake's like, I 452 00:21:22.359 --> 00:21:26.839 just love these games. And then you you're tired, and 453 00:21:26.880 --> 00:21:29.640 you're like, I've had enough. I've explored this three D world. 454 00:21:30.000 --> 00:21:32.079 How can I continue my journeys? And you get in 455 00:21:32.119 --> 00:21:34.720 bed and then you open your phone or your iPad 456 00:21:34.839 --> 00:21:37.079 or something like that, and you can continue in that world, 457 00:21:37.079 --> 00:21:39.000 but not in like where it demands so much of 458 00:21:39.000 --> 00:21:41.240 your attention, where you're like, I'm just gonna I'm going 459 00:21:41.279 --> 00:21:43.119 to exist as a different character in this universe. 460 00:21:43.279 --> 00:21:45.119 And if I'm tired, why wouldn't I just go to sleep? 461 00:21:45.240 --> 00:21:45.960 Well fuck off. 462 00:21:46.279 --> 00:21:48.440 Yeah, of course, but you know see what you're saying though, 463 00:21:48.519 --> 00:21:49.440 that's like it's. 464 00:21:49.319 --> 00:21:50.920 Extending the casualness of a year. 465 00:21:51.039 --> 00:21:53.240 But not only that, that is like exactly what Sony's 466 00:21:53.240 --> 00:21:55.559 trying to do with a franchise like Horizon. They're trying 467 00:21:55.599 --> 00:21:57.559 to take that thing and like throw it out to 468 00:21:57.640 --> 00:21:59.720 like everyone possible. They have like the VR game, they 469 00:21:59.759 --> 00:22:02.160 have the movie, they got the lego Horizon thing, and 470 00:22:02.200 --> 00:22:02.559 they have. 471 00:22:02.519 --> 00:22:04.400 And they have a whole demographic of fifty five year 472 00:22:04.400 --> 00:22:05.680 old women who they could. 473 00:22:05.720 --> 00:22:09.200 That they aren't tapping into exactly, like they're missing the obvious, 474 00:22:09.680 --> 00:22:10.880 the obvious target there. 475 00:22:11.240 --> 00:22:13.079 And maybe I gotta stop talking. I got to stop 476 00:22:13.079 --> 00:22:15.279 talking about this because I have a business venture ahead 477 00:22:15.279 --> 00:22:17.000 of me and I just need to start knocking on 478 00:22:17.039 --> 00:22:19.960 the doors and in every studio and being like I will, yeah, 479 00:22:20.079 --> 00:22:20.759 help make yours. 480 00:22:20.839 --> 00:22:21.319 I will help. 481 00:22:21.440 --> 00:22:24.839 Yeah. Well you're hid an object adventure version. 482 00:22:24.880 --> 00:22:27.119 I mean I think I'll probably just quit and do that. Yep, 483 00:22:27.160 --> 00:22:32.319 you know, sounds pretty good, Yeah, no brainer. Xbox out 484 00:22:32.319 --> 00:22:38.400 of Showcase yesterday they showed well, they announced uh Ninja 485 00:22:38.400 --> 00:22:39.400 Goden four. 486 00:22:40.680 --> 00:22:40.960 Uh. 487 00:22:41.039 --> 00:22:45.079 Then they announced Ninja Godden to Black that you could 488 00:22:45.119 --> 00:22:48.480 play that Day, which can I just say looked better 489 00:22:48.799 --> 00:22:50.599 than Tiler. 490 00:22:52.319 --> 00:22:55.599 They're showing that looks way better than the Ninja game. 491 00:22:55.640 --> 00:22:56.960 They just shoot weird. 492 00:22:57.319 --> 00:22:58.960 So it is a new game though, right or is 493 00:22:59.000 --> 00:22:59.839 it a remake not? 494 00:23:00.119 --> 00:23:03.079 So I had to look this up because I was like, wait, 495 00:23:03.119 --> 00:23:05.799 hold on, the Ninja Guiden naming convention is confusing as 496 00:23:05.839 --> 00:23:09.519 someone who doesn't actively because to be perfectly frank, I've 497 00:23:09.640 --> 00:23:13.319 only ever played the original Ninja Gaiden Black, which isn't 498 00:23:13.319 --> 00:23:15.599 even the original. I've played Ninja Goyden Black on the 499 00:23:15.640 --> 00:23:17.960 original Xbox same, which is a kick ass game. 500 00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:20.799 By the ways, you should. 501 00:23:20.519 --> 00:23:21.000 Go play it. 502 00:23:21.039 --> 00:23:23.240 I'm pretty sure it's backwards compatible on Xbox it is. 503 00:23:24.519 --> 00:23:29.640 That game is a like definitive edition of the original 504 00:23:29.759 --> 00:23:33.200 Ninja gaidon the original Xbox Nja Godden, not the original 505 00:23:33.240 --> 00:23:35.519 original Ninja Giden, which is like a ness game or whatever. 506 00:23:37.000 --> 00:23:38.559 So I was like, oh, okay, so Black is like 507 00:23:38.640 --> 00:23:42.720 their definitive edition. Term Ninja Goiden two came out on 508 00:23:42.720 --> 00:23:46.000 the three sixty. Then they did a definitive version of 509 00:23:46.039 --> 00:23:49.559 that game, but they called it Ninja Guiden Sigma, which 510 00:23:50.160 --> 00:23:52.039 I had to look this up already lost. I know 511 00:23:52.440 --> 00:23:56.319 Apparently that version of the game was like easier, they 512 00:23:56.400 --> 00:23:57.359 changed the enemies around. 513 00:23:57.400 --> 00:23:58.799 People don't like that version as much. 514 00:24:00.119 --> 00:24:04.599 So in like Sigma also like what they the Internet 515 00:24:04.720 --> 00:24:08.680 calls when they categorize males, you know about this stuff, 516 00:24:08.759 --> 00:24:11.640 like alpha beta beta is the one. 517 00:24:11.720 --> 00:24:13.559 Yeah, yeah, it's in you. I don't know what. They 518 00:24:13.559 --> 00:24:16.920 may have a term for Ninjai and beta beta. Then 519 00:24:16.920 --> 00:24:18.599 everybody was just think that's the beta. 520 00:24:19.960 --> 00:24:21.839 They should make a Ninja guid In alpha and a 521 00:24:21.920 --> 00:24:23.960 Ninja Goden Beta, but they should make fight. But they 522 00:24:24.000 --> 00:24:26.839 should make the beta version the like hardest fuck version, 523 00:24:26.920 --> 00:24:28.640 and they should make the alpha version the like for 524 00:24:28.720 --> 00:24:35.440 babies version. Just there you go, free advice. Anyway, Ninja 525 00:24:35.440 --> 00:24:38.759 Guid and Sigma that was their definitive version of two 526 00:24:39.359 --> 00:24:43.440 in the same line as Black Right Originally okay and 527 00:24:43.599 --> 00:24:46.000 but but apparently people don't like that version as much 528 00:24:46.039 --> 00:24:49.079 because it's it's they changed things as the combat is 529 00:24:49.160 --> 00:24:51.359 kind of watered down or like, it's not as difficult. 530 00:24:51.839 --> 00:24:54.839 Apparently it's not as well received. I guess they did 531 00:24:54.839 --> 00:24:57.519 an HD collection at some point that took one, two, 532 00:24:57.519 --> 00:24:58.599 and three and put them all together. 533 00:25:00.000 --> 00:25:00.599 That exists. 534 00:25:01.200 --> 00:25:03.720 So now we come to today where they're like Ninja 535 00:25:03.759 --> 00:25:09.160 Guide into Black, which is a like another new definitive 536 00:25:09.240 --> 00:25:14.599 version of two undoing Sigma, undoing Sigma, but apparently also 537 00:25:14.680 --> 00:25:17.279 still has some elements of Sigma. I guess it still 538 00:25:17.319 --> 00:25:19.559 has some of the enemy design of Sigma. I saw 539 00:25:19.599 --> 00:25:23.599 some people saying they were disappointed. Get to that in 540 00:25:23.599 --> 00:25:25.839 a sect, because I did play some of it. But 541 00:25:25.960 --> 00:25:29.759 this is like where Sigma was just like we retooled it, 542 00:25:29.920 --> 00:25:32.000 changed the enemy designs around this is this is like 543 00:25:32.039 --> 00:25:35.640 a full on remake in Unreal Engine, and it looks incredible. 544 00:25:35.920 --> 00:25:38.680 I did play a few chapters last night. It looks great. 545 00:25:38.920 --> 00:25:41.839 It still looks amazing. It looks amazing, and it still 546 00:25:41.960 --> 00:25:45.880 feels like classic Ninja guid in, which is to say 547 00:25:45.880 --> 00:25:48.799 the camera is kind of floaty and becomes a distraction 548 00:25:49.960 --> 00:25:52.720 and you play it and you're like, right, I forgot 549 00:25:52.799 --> 00:25:57.279 this is how these games feel, because it definitely you're 550 00:25:57.319 --> 00:26:00.880 I'm so used to how like modern like action combat 551 00:26:00.880 --> 00:26:02.960 games feel now, and going back to that is kind 552 00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:05.680 of a shock. But once you get used to it. 553 00:26:05.599 --> 00:26:06.039 You're like. 554 00:26:07.519 --> 00:26:10.079 Ninja Gaiden kind of fucking rules. Man, It's just you're 555 00:26:10.160 --> 00:26:12.680 just cutting up dudes with a sword. Everything's like super 556 00:26:12.720 --> 00:26:16.519 fast and quick. Enemies are not really sponges, like you 557 00:26:16.559 --> 00:26:18.880 can like kill them instantly if you like hit them 558 00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:20.440 with like the right move at the right time. You 559 00:26:20.440 --> 00:26:22.119 could like there's just one move where if you just 560 00:26:22.160 --> 00:26:24.680 like nail eels, just immediately decapitate them and I'll tell 561 00:26:24.720 --> 00:26:26.160 you the shit fucking rolls. 562 00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:30.400 So you're saying it's not Wanted Dead. No, but Wanta 563 00:26:30.480 --> 00:26:31.920 Dead is still a better game. 564 00:26:33.319 --> 00:26:38.000 I will make no such claims for which one's better. 565 00:26:38.480 --> 00:26:40.720 I also haven't finished. I've so this is my first 566 00:26:40.759 --> 00:26:44.880 time playing Ninja Gaiden two. Is this version it's good. 567 00:26:44.920 --> 00:26:49.119 I'm enjoying it. I was like, man, I feel like 568 00:26:49.160 --> 00:26:52.920 this isn't that difficult or at least like as difficult 569 00:26:52.960 --> 00:26:56.759 as I remember Black being as a kid, the original 570 00:26:56.799 --> 00:26:59.359 Black and just the reputation of Ninja Gaiden two for 571 00:26:59.440 --> 00:27:01.759 being very hard hard, because Ninja gaid and two's reputation 572 00:27:01.880 --> 00:27:04.359 is harder than as being harder than the first one. 573 00:27:04.480 --> 00:27:06.440 Yeah, And I was like, maybe it's. 574 00:27:06.319 --> 00:27:09.119 Just come older. I'm a gamer now, I've played from 575 00:27:09.160 --> 00:27:09.799 software games. 576 00:27:09.839 --> 00:27:10.279 I'm good. 577 00:27:10.880 --> 00:27:13.400 I looked it up and people were saying, apparently it 578 00:27:13.720 --> 00:27:17.440 carries over some of the like Sigma lesser enemies, so 579 00:27:17.839 --> 00:27:20.319 it's it's not as difficult as the first one. So 580 00:27:20.319 --> 00:27:22.279 I have seen people saying they're kind of disappointed in 581 00:27:22.319 --> 00:27:25.680 this belief a little bit, and that it it's not 582 00:27:25.799 --> 00:27:28.799 as hard as the original version of two no option. 583 00:27:30.359 --> 00:27:32.720 There's a couple of difficulty options. I don't know if 584 00:27:32.720 --> 00:27:35.480 that changes things. I'm all saying this purely based on 585 00:27:35.559 --> 00:27:37.519 just like what I've experienced and then me looking up 586 00:27:37.599 --> 00:27:40.599 like what the fuck is the deal with this thing 587 00:27:40.680 --> 00:27:42.640 and the billion versions of it? So that's just all 588 00:27:42.680 --> 00:27:45.319 I know for now, So I can't comment on it 589 00:27:45.359 --> 00:27:48.400 as like a hardcore Ninja Gaiden fan, but all I 590 00:27:48.440 --> 00:27:49.759 can say is like, I'm having a good time with 591 00:27:49.799 --> 00:27:52.200 it so far. It's fun, it's cool. 592 00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:55.440 It looks better. It looks great than what Nina. I'm 593 00:27:55.440 --> 00:27:57.480 not saying that Ninja gud four looks bad, by the way, 594 00:27:57.559 --> 00:27:59.839 It's just was interesting to see a game of those. 595 00:28:00.880 --> 00:28:02.599 And then also they showed this other thing and it just. 596 00:28:02.480 --> 00:28:05.359 Looked obvious and it ended without today It's like, wait 597 00:28:05.400 --> 00:28:07.000 a second, yeah I expected this. 598 00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:09.839 Yeah, but yeah, yeah, but it was definitely like this 599 00:28:09.960 --> 00:28:13.319 game looks really like it, like to the point I 600 00:28:13.359 --> 00:28:15.000 think all of us in the office were confused, were like, 601 00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:18.160 is this a new another new new Indiges kind of game, like, 602 00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:20.359 because it looks so good and ually it's weird. 603 00:28:20.400 --> 00:28:23.000 So it is strange, and I'm curious with the reasoning. 604 00:28:23.319 --> 00:28:24.960 I mean, they're, you know whatever, like the game's not 605 00:28:25.160 --> 00:28:27.279 yet well. But yes, I agree that it was like 606 00:28:27.319 --> 00:28:29.799 this jarring, like you show one, you show the other, 607 00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:31.400 and you're just like, that looks better. 608 00:28:31.519 --> 00:28:34.519 Yeah, I would rather be playing this one, whatever this is. 609 00:28:36.440 --> 00:28:37.160 That was one of the things. 610 00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:39.000 So that was one thing. The other thing I wanted 611 00:28:39.000 --> 00:28:41.759 to bring up from the showcase. Did you guys watch 612 00:28:41.799 --> 00:28:42.359 the Doom? 613 00:28:42.640 --> 00:28:43.880 I did. They didn't see all of it. 614 00:28:43.920 --> 00:28:44.759 I saw parts of it. 615 00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:46.960 I want to get your opinion on this because I 616 00:28:47.079 --> 00:28:54.440 watched it. I think it actually looks kind of dull imber. 617 00:28:54.519 --> 00:28:57.000 We were kind of talking about that, so like. 618 00:28:56.960 --> 00:29:02.240 I like, I I it's weird. It looks slow and 619 00:29:02.400 --> 00:29:05.000 way more like you're just standing there. 620 00:29:05.279 --> 00:29:09.319 I pitch. Yeah, but that's like a worst pitch. I know, 621 00:29:09.400 --> 00:29:12.839 you know where they're like the run, you're gonna stand 622 00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:13.480 your grind. Yeah. 623 00:29:13.559 --> 00:29:17.559 Yeah. First they're like fight sixteen, run and gun, and 624 00:29:17.599 --> 00:29:20.440 you're like great, and they're like do maternal jump and 625 00:29:20.480 --> 00:29:22.519 shoot and you're like, yeah, that came rules, And they're 626 00:29:22.559 --> 00:29:24.960 like this one stand and fight, and you're like, well, 627 00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:29.480 that is the least interesting mechanically, those three options and 628 00:29:29.519 --> 00:29:32.359 all of everything they showed was just like slowly walking 629 00:29:32.440 --> 00:29:34.559 up ping the guy pairying. 630 00:29:34.640 --> 00:29:38.480 And I'm like, oh, no, I mean a little. I'm 631 00:29:38.480 --> 00:29:41.519 a little worried. Now. This is me not defending it. 632 00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:44.440 But I have learned in my and and yeah, in 633 00:29:44.480 --> 00:29:47.559 my tenure of seeing games versus playing games and having 634 00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:49.039 an opinion of what a game looks like and then 635 00:29:49.079 --> 00:29:51.200 you get your hands on that game and it feels different. 636 00:29:52.200 --> 00:29:54.240 It is. It is tough. I do think it's tough 637 00:29:54.279 --> 00:29:58.599 because I personally, I don't think anyone I think you're 638 00:29:58.599 --> 00:30:03.200 fair to judge watching gameplay. And but it's hard to 639 00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:04.680 have an assumption of how the game is gonna feel 640 00:30:04.680 --> 00:30:06.559 based on that because I there's, like I said, there's 641 00:30:06.559 --> 00:30:07.960 been so many times where I've gone hands on with 642 00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:10.440 the game and it looks just as stiff as it was, 643 00:30:10.519 --> 00:30:12.599 but the feeling of actually playing is a lot different. 644 00:30:13.799 --> 00:30:16.359 And so I get really like, no, no, no, I agree, 645 00:30:16.839 --> 00:30:17.799 I disagree with you, by the way. 646 00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:20.079 No, and and and I think that's fair to say, 647 00:30:20.119 --> 00:30:23.200 because I also don't want to like preemptively judge it 648 00:30:23.200 --> 00:30:25.880 too harshly, and you know, my opinion could change. But 649 00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:28.519 that was just a thing I noticed, and and it 650 00:30:28.559 --> 00:30:33.039 made me kind of think about like how Doom Eternal 651 00:30:33.599 --> 00:30:38.039 had such a backlash for being so mechanically dense and 652 00:30:38.039 --> 00:30:41.960 and so fast paced to the point of like turning 653 00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:45.599 off a lot of people. And I'm like, this, everything 654 00:30:45.640 --> 00:30:50.720 they're saying feels like them really taking that criticism to 655 00:30:50.839 --> 00:30:54.000 heart and maybe like trying to make a Doom that 656 00:30:54.039 --> 00:30:57.200 goes in in like another direction, which I'm i isn't 657 00:30:57.200 --> 00:30:58.960 necessarily a bad thing, because it's like, if I want 658 00:30:58.960 --> 00:31:01.000 to play Doom Maternal, I could play Doom Maternal. And 659 00:31:01.000 --> 00:31:02.680 I like the idea of like each of these Doom 660 00:31:02.720 --> 00:31:04.759 games having its own flavor. 661 00:31:05.480 --> 00:31:06.319 But there is. 662 00:31:07.759 --> 00:31:11.200 I really fucking love Doo Maternal, and I think that game, 663 00:31:12.039 --> 00:31:13.880 like I don't want to tell people they're wrong, but 664 00:31:14.200 --> 00:31:16.839 there is a part of me that's just like I 665 00:31:16.880 --> 00:31:19.880 do think I think that game is somewhat misunderstood, and 666 00:31:19.920 --> 00:31:21.400 I think that's different from not liking it. 667 00:31:21.559 --> 00:31:24.319 I think I do think there's a DNA thing with it. 668 00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:27.200 For me personally, because I do agree with a lot 669 00:31:27.240 --> 00:31:29.480 of criticisms that that game's overdesigned. But when I do 670 00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:34.960 play that game, that game matches my the waves of 671 00:31:35.000 --> 00:31:38.079 my brain, like it can just sit there and everything. 672 00:31:38.119 --> 00:31:40.039 It's like Tetris. I always compare it to Tetris like 673 00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:41.559 people have. I mean, I have this with Tetris do 674 00:31:41.640 --> 00:31:43.319 but people get to this flow state with Tetris where 675 00:31:43.319 --> 00:31:45.720 they just like zone out and they're going. And when 676 00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:48.599 I play Do Maternal, that's what happens. And it's great 677 00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:50.119 because when I used to play that game with people 678 00:31:50.200 --> 00:31:52.240 with like friends in the room, many of my friends 679 00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:54.960 who don't really play games or would watch that gameplay. 680 00:31:55.119 --> 00:31:58.400 It's I have no fucking idea what's happening to watch 681 00:31:59.000 --> 00:32:01.960 but and I'm just ah, like just going and going 682 00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:03.920 and going, and I feel like, I don't know. People, Yeah, 683 00:32:03.960 --> 00:32:06.359 that's the thing. People were like, it feels impossible what 684 00:32:06.400 --> 00:32:10.440 you're doing when when they're watching that game. Anyways, so 685 00:32:10.519 --> 00:32:14.880 I get it, but watching this reveal is like it 686 00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:16.839 did feel like I don't know. 687 00:32:17.759 --> 00:32:20.599 I think that's the thing is is where we're watching 688 00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:25.599 Doom Maternal, not even playing it, just watching it. You're like, fuck, yeah, 689 00:32:25.799 --> 00:32:28.000 just oh my god, I can't look away. We're watching 690 00:32:28.079 --> 00:32:31.960 this the Doom the Dark Ages. I was like, okay, 691 00:32:32.559 --> 00:32:35.960 I'm not doesn't quite have that same you know, I'm not. 692 00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:37.880 Thrilled about the dragon writing stuff either. 693 00:32:37.960 --> 00:32:41.359 When we saw that, it looks a little I don't know. 694 00:32:41.519 --> 00:32:43.400 I think like the mech part they showed looked just 695 00:32:43.480 --> 00:32:45.480 kind of a little floaty mech. 696 00:32:45.359 --> 00:32:46.720 Part was weird to me because they're like, this is 697 00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:49.160 the ultimate power fantasy if you're being big and punching 698 00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:51.440 big monsters, but when you actually see them, it's just 699 00:32:51.480 --> 00:32:53.000 they just like when you do, when you're the same 700 00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:56.799 size as them. How does that feeling, how any different 701 00:32:57.319 --> 00:33:00.279 than being on the ground with big fucking monsters is 702 00:33:00.480 --> 00:33:02.759 and tearing through them. I agree it was, it didn't 703 00:33:02.799 --> 00:33:06.559 really translate the exact same, yeah, crazy feeling, other than 704 00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:08.799 you having to tell yourself I'm going to big fucking 705 00:33:08.960 --> 00:33:10.920 mac punch a big yeah. 706 00:33:11.039 --> 00:33:14.599 I Also, the one of the things I don't dislike 707 00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:18.119 about Eternal, but it was like, it's not super for me, 708 00:33:18.240 --> 00:33:22.799 is like how pulpy comic bookie like fourteen year old 709 00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:25.599 boy that game leans into in its narrative, like there 710 00:33:25.759 --> 00:33:27.480 there is a part of it that I think works 711 00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:30.000 and is, but I can tell like they're even leaning 712 00:33:30.680 --> 00:33:33.920 further into that in this one, and I'm like, at 713 00:33:33.920 --> 00:33:36.279 what point does this go from like cool to like 714 00:33:37.559 --> 00:33:39.359 kind of stupid? 715 00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:41.880 You know what I mean? Well, like they don't want 716 00:33:41.880 --> 00:33:43.400 a story line and whenever they. 717 00:33:44.119 --> 00:33:46.880 End exactly so, so like I think, I think Doom 718 00:33:46.960 --> 00:33:48.720 Ride is a very thin line where it can be 719 00:33:48.759 --> 00:33:51.079 like yeah, this is cool to like this is kind. 720 00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:53.720 Of yeah, just tell me to kill demons and that's 721 00:33:53.759 --> 00:33:57.119 how you know, have a guy being like to take 722 00:33:57.119 --> 00:33:58.039 care of It's a. 723 00:33:58.000 --> 00:33:59.839 Tough it's a tough ride line to. 724 00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:03.839 Bid. I will also say I do think the reveal 725 00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:07.519 of the Doom twenty sixteen one is like unmatched. They're 726 00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:10.599 so like the original reveal of that and showing like 727 00:34:10.679 --> 00:34:16.360 the first time when you tear you know the part 728 00:34:16.440 --> 00:34:18.519 and then like get the chainsaw and are flying through 729 00:34:18.639 --> 00:34:20.800 and like there's a rhythm and flow to how that 730 00:34:20.840 --> 00:34:23.920 reveal works that like is so grounded and so cool 731 00:34:24.960 --> 00:34:27.280 that it almost you get to a point when you 732 00:34:27.320 --> 00:34:29.480 see some like this and you're desensitized by like it's 733 00:34:29.519 --> 00:34:31.840 just lots of monsters and there's lots of shit. It's yeah, 734 00:34:31.880 --> 00:34:34.119 big things. And I also have this whole theory that 735 00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:36.480 the idea of the spectacle is dying. Like I don't 736 00:34:36.480 --> 00:34:40.119 think a lot of us are phased anymore by over 737 00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:43.119 the top spectacles because over the past ten years we've 738 00:34:43.159 --> 00:34:46.079 had Disney and Marble just beat it into our skulls 739 00:34:46.119 --> 00:34:48.440 to the point where it's things that are so fantastic 740 00:34:48.480 --> 00:34:51.599 and so big just feel like everything it's like the 741 00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:54.440 idea of like that's depressing. Yeah yeah, well, I mean 742 00:34:54.440 --> 00:34:56.679 then it just means that you should feel it. To me, 743 00:34:56.800 --> 00:34:59.360 I want things that it's only an opportunity to make 744 00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:04.559 things that are less important feel more intense right. 745 00:35:04.559 --> 00:35:06.920 Well, And to be fair, like I think they they 746 00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:09.199 seem to recognize that we're like after Doom Eternal, it's like, 747 00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:11.159 well where do you go from there? And switching it 748 00:35:11.199 --> 00:35:12.119 to a medieval setting. 749 00:35:12.159 --> 00:35:12.960 I do think. 750 00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:16.920 Like like that that's something that gives it a different 751 00:35:16.920 --> 00:35:19.559 feel going for like hey, maybe we should like take 752 00:35:19.559 --> 00:35:22.679 a step back and it's it's you know, slower paced 753 00:35:22.760 --> 00:35:25.239 or like this, Like they maybe do recognize it. 754 00:35:25.239 --> 00:35:27.480 It's just a matter of like, God, it doesn't work. 755 00:35:27.400 --> 00:35:30.599 Got to play it, but that's still grinding gun. That's 756 00:35:30.639 --> 00:35:32.960 still pretty cool. So you know, you know the solution 757 00:35:33.159 --> 00:35:42.079 for Bethesda for Bethesda, yeah, Wolfenstein three, so we need yeah. 758 00:35:41.280 --> 00:35:44.239 Yeah, And so they got them making other another good game. 759 00:35:44.320 --> 00:35:45.400 I guess yeah. 760 00:35:45.519 --> 00:35:48.280 I was telling Jake I because I need to go 761 00:35:48.320 --> 00:35:51.039 back and finishing Dana Jones and I had on Xbox originally, 762 00:35:51.079 --> 00:35:53.400 and I'm like, I really want to play this game 763 00:35:53.440 --> 00:35:55.480 on my PC. And I was like, wait a minute, 764 00:35:56.320 --> 00:35:58.679 Xbox play anywhere I can play it on my PC. 765 00:35:58.960 --> 00:36:00.960 So now I'm like really excited and I want to 766 00:36:01.000 --> 00:36:02.480 go home this weekend and like play it on my 767 00:36:02.519 --> 00:36:05.360 PC with my ultra wide monitor. And that game like 768 00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:08.079 feels like it's made for ultra wide because it has 769 00:36:08.679 --> 00:36:14.239 the anamorphic box, which actually like gives you more real 770 00:36:14.320 --> 00:36:16.199 estate on the cut scenes. Like I'm like, oh, I've 771 00:36:16.199 --> 00:36:20.280 been playing the fucking full screen VHS version of this game, 772 00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:26.000 you yeah, modified for my TV. I need to play 773 00:36:26.039 --> 00:36:28.599 the actual, like proper the way it was meant to 774 00:36:28.599 --> 00:36:30.000 be experienced. 775 00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:33.000 I'm excited for doing because I like do and. 776 00:36:33.079 --> 00:36:35.960 Me too, I am. Yes, to be perfectly clear, I'm still. 777 00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:39.119 Excited, but it's it's I I almost it's very difficult 778 00:36:39.119 --> 00:36:42.039 for me to have many reactions to trailers in any regard. Sure, 779 00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:45.880 that's why you never put me on a live reacts 780 00:36:45.920 --> 00:36:47.880 stream for a trailer, because I will look like I'm 781 00:36:47.880 --> 00:36:48.440 made of stone. 782 00:36:48.679 --> 00:36:52.239 What if, though, you did one and we shot you? 783 00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:55.000 Oh if I mean with a gun? Yeah, yeah I would. 784 00:36:55.199 --> 00:36:57.320 I would show up every day. Yeah that's great, and 785 00:36:57.400 --> 00:37:00.440 do it. If we did one, yeah, exab, I'll put 786 00:37:00.440 --> 00:37:02.280 that in my back pocket. We do another one for doom. 787 00:37:02.280 --> 00:37:03.079 I have an idea for what. 788 00:37:03.159 --> 00:37:08.599 Okay Chainsaw, Yeah, okay. 789 00:37:07.039 --> 00:37:15.199 Nie, I want to know something you've been doing that 790 00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:17.079 isn't game related. I want to switch it up first. 791 00:37:17.079 --> 00:37:18.760 I don't know, but I've been listening to White Snake. 792 00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:22.159 Tell me about that. Well. I only say that because 793 00:37:22.159 --> 00:37:23.599 I was listening a White Snake and I walk to 794 00:37:23.639 --> 00:37:26.880 work today and I only and it feels like fake 795 00:37:26.920 --> 00:37:28.480 because You're like I want to know, And I just 796 00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:31.199 immediately was like, what love is? It popped me, like 797 00:37:31.280 --> 00:37:34.599 I want to know what love is? That's anyways, okay. 798 00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:40.360 I like White Snake. It's a band from the eighties 799 00:37:40.760 --> 00:37:44.079 and the guitarist who was on the self titled album 800 00:37:44.400 --> 00:37:48.599 died last week, and oh oh wow, yeah is that? 801 00:37:48.639 --> 00:37:51.039 What was that? What motivated you to no. I I 802 00:37:51.880 --> 00:37:55.880 I've often White Snake is in my normal gat chasion, 803 00:37:57.440 --> 00:38:01.280 but I didn't. I just had learned that do you 804 00:38:01.280 --> 00:38:03.840 to know who Steve Vaia is? The guitarist? 805 00:38:04.519 --> 00:38:05.800 The name sounds familiar but not. 806 00:38:05.920 --> 00:38:10.239 He's a nootly finger noodle man on the strings. But 807 00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:12.719 I didn't realize this, that he was the one who 808 00:38:12.719 --> 00:38:14.360 took the place of that guitarist on the on the 809 00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:16.719 album that followed. So today I was listening to Slip 810 00:38:16.760 --> 00:38:20.599 of the Tongue by White Snake. It's okay, but the 811 00:38:20.599 --> 00:38:24.920 first album fucking rips. That's it. That's not that that 812 00:38:24.960 --> 00:38:26.960 doesn't have to be my answer, it's just that's all. 813 00:38:27.280 --> 00:38:28.360 It was relevant to me. 814 00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:34.320 Okay, I've been unpacking, so it's not been all that interesting. 815 00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:36.239 Do you listen to music when you unpacked? 816 00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:40.280 Yeah? Yeah, I've been listening to uh No, unfortunately not 817 00:38:40.639 --> 00:38:41.079 uh no. 818 00:38:43.239 --> 00:38:45.039 I don't know if you guys listen to mac Miller 819 00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:48.039 at all. But his second posthumous album just released last 820 00:38:48.079 --> 00:38:49.239 week or so Mac Miller. 821 00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:50.119 Is not the one who's dead. 822 00:38:50.280 --> 00:38:50.679 He is. 823 00:38:51.000 --> 00:38:53.159 Oh, I'm so sorry. Yeah, second postume. That's why I 824 00:38:53.239 --> 00:38:54.079 was confused. 825 00:38:54.119 --> 00:38:58.039 Yeah, but it released and it's good. I mean it's 826 00:38:58.079 --> 00:39:00.000 really good. I mean a lot of times postumus albu 827 00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:02.400 feel like cash grabs. They feel like they've been unfinished 828 00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:03.719 because they were intended to. 829 00:39:03.719 --> 00:39:06.599 Be at least them just taking like unused. 830 00:39:06.360 --> 00:39:09.519 Yeah, like taking like demos, recordings that that maybe got 831 00:39:09.519 --> 00:39:11.960 cut from other albums, or maybe stuff they recorded but 832 00:39:12.079 --> 00:39:14.480 just never finished. And usually they'll have other producers come 833 00:39:14.519 --> 00:39:18.039 in and do it. However, mac Miller's estate has done 834 00:39:18.039 --> 00:39:20.920 like a very good job of like treating his stuff, 835 00:39:21.599 --> 00:39:24.360 his like posthumous stuff really well. Yeah, and this album 836 00:39:24.480 --> 00:39:27.840 is like very experimental. It was all recorded I think 837 00:39:27.880 --> 00:39:29.239 in a period of like twenty thirteen. 838 00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:32.119 But as much as I'm. 839 00:39:32.000 --> 00:39:33.920 Enjoying it, I forgot how much I love his first 840 00:39:33.960 --> 00:39:37.480 posthumous record called Circles, which is more like R and 841 00:39:37.480 --> 00:39:40.920 B than hip hop. It's just very well written, well produced, 842 00:39:40.920 --> 00:39:42.360 and I've been listening. 843 00:39:42.159 --> 00:39:42.559 To that a lot. 844 00:39:42.599 --> 00:39:45.880 It's sad too, but you know, sometimes you gotta listen 845 00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:47.159 to sad music while you're unpacking. 846 00:39:47.360 --> 00:39:50.840 Yeah yeah, yeah, So there you go, two music examples. 847 00:39:51.480 --> 00:39:51.920 That's true. 848 00:39:51.960 --> 00:39:54.320 Why But also I guess the other part of it 849 00:39:54.360 --> 00:39:57.559 is I have a record player that I haven't been 850 00:39:57.559 --> 00:39:59.679 able to set up in so long. So I've been 851 00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:04.440 listening two records like set it Up, putting on records 852 00:40:04.719 --> 00:40:06.880 and in Vibe in as I as I unpacked. 853 00:40:06.960 --> 00:40:08.880 Mostly done on your go to record. 854 00:40:08.679 --> 00:40:10.840 To pull out, like if you had, what's the one 855 00:40:10.880 --> 00:40:12.079 you pull out the most often. 856 00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:16.159 As of late, probably Igor Tyler, the creators twenty nineteen 857 00:40:16.199 --> 00:40:20.679 breakup album, It's amazing. Also not really hip hop, even 858 00:40:20.679 --> 00:40:22.559 though he's known for hip hop. It's just you know, 859 00:40:23.719 --> 00:40:27.320 I've been doing that some country. 860 00:40:27.599 --> 00:40:29.559 Favorite album? Was that favorite album? 861 00:40:29.679 --> 00:40:30.960 Favorite album of all time? Yeah? 862 00:40:31.199 --> 00:40:34.320 Good loaded question, Jesus Christ. First one that comes to 863 00:40:34.320 --> 00:40:36.559 your head doesn't have to be the answer. And I 864 00:40:36.639 --> 00:40:39.000 know whatever one you probably in Rainbows by radio Head, 865 00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:43.440 Oh fucking yeah, I know it's gonna come up the internet. 866 00:40:43.800 --> 00:40:46.760 Your favorite album, No, right away, the first thing that 867 00:40:46.800 --> 00:40:49.519 comes to your head, you fucking rat Tears for Fear 868 00:40:49.679 --> 00:40:50.559 songs with the Big Chair. 869 00:40:50.679 --> 00:40:53.199 Oh you had that I had. I had like an 870 00:40:53.199 --> 00:40:56.719 awakening moment like a few years ago, and you're you're 871 00:40:56.840 --> 00:40:59.440 just confident, like I. It's just one of those like 872 00:40:59.519 --> 00:41:02.079 it's it's one of those albums that I had listened 873 00:41:02.119 --> 00:41:05.440 to obsessively a point in my life, probably to a 874 00:41:05.559 --> 00:41:09.239 nauseum and then stopped. But every single time it would 875 00:41:09.239 --> 00:41:11.960 like leak on the radio, leak into moments, it would 876 00:41:11.960 --> 00:41:15.679 like there wasn't a single answer me that wouldn't want 877 00:41:15.719 --> 00:41:18.639 to immediately imagine the next song playing and like the 878 00:41:18.679 --> 00:41:21.280 next part of that album playing. And then I just 879 00:41:21.360 --> 00:41:24.119 kind of had this epiphany of like looking back and 880 00:41:24.159 --> 00:41:25.519 all the music I've listened to in my life, and 881 00:41:25.559 --> 00:41:27.119 I just been like, this is the one that I 882 00:41:27.119 --> 00:41:30.519 don't think I can get sick of. If it was 883 00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:33.920 just on repeat constantly, or every single time I listened 884 00:41:33.920 --> 00:41:35.599 to it, I like hear something new or feel something 885 00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:36.280 different about it. 886 00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:38.440 Yeah, So that's kind of how I feel about En Rainbow. 887 00:41:38.440 --> 00:41:40.559 It's like I listened to it, listened to listen to 888 00:41:40.599 --> 00:41:42.960 it to death for years, and then stopped, and every 889 00:41:42.960 --> 00:41:44.039 time I hear it, I'm like. 890 00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:47.079 I'm gonna listen to the rest of it, you know, Yeah, 891 00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:48.320 do you have one? 892 00:41:48.360 --> 00:41:52.199 John, I don't really listen to albums, So I'm like 893 00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:55.480 really trying to think, and I I'm like, nothing's just 894 00:41:55.559 --> 00:41:56.719 popping in there right now. 895 00:41:56.760 --> 00:42:00.480 That's okay. It's a difficult question. And also it's with 896 00:42:00.519 --> 00:42:03.800 the assumption that everyone listens to albums and treats music 897 00:42:03.880 --> 00:42:05.079 that way. Yeah, and so forth. 898 00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:08.639 It's definitely like took the while to realize. I mean, 899 00:42:08.719 --> 00:42:10.400 I guess not. I guess I knew it from like 900 00:42:10.440 --> 00:42:12.599 people in high school and stuff, but like, yeah, a 901 00:42:12.599 --> 00:42:15.360 lot of people just like pick songs listen to songs individuals, 902 00:42:15.360 --> 00:42:17.280 which I do at times, but most of the time 903 00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:18.119 that people's. 904 00:42:17.760 --> 00:42:22.320 iPods in high school was a disaster, like this song, 905 00:42:22.840 --> 00:42:23.360 this song, but. 906 00:42:23.280 --> 00:42:25.440 They don't want these songs and put the whole album. 907 00:42:25.480 --> 00:42:27.280 More in the case where you would go to an 908 00:42:27.360 --> 00:42:31.599 artist's you'd realize they had five different spellings of the 909 00:42:31.639 --> 00:42:36.559 same artist, so it would be that guns gun and 910 00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:39.039 Rose or guns n' Roses, gun and Roses, and it 911 00:42:39.079 --> 00:42:41.000 would be like four and then when you click on that, 912 00:42:41.039 --> 00:42:42.800 you would realize that the albums were like split up 913 00:42:42.800 --> 00:42:44.320 in each one of them, so like the songs were 914 00:42:44.360 --> 00:42:46.559 all different. I was like, what the fuck are you doing? 915 00:42:46.679 --> 00:42:49.800 It's something kind of interesting because when we grew up, uh, 916 00:42:50.039 --> 00:42:51.920 you know, it was like radio play was more important, 917 00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:55.639 So I feel like the emphasis was on singles over albums. 918 00:42:55.679 --> 00:42:58.039 I mean, that was that was the thing that got 919 00:42:58.039 --> 00:42:58.960 YouTube right. 920 00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:02.639 But nowadays, because of Spotify, albums are actually way more 921 00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:06.639 important because it's more about alth well not just the algorithm, 922 00:43:06.639 --> 00:43:08.360 like the way people listen to it, where it's like 923 00:43:08.400 --> 00:43:09.880 you go in and you like the album. 924 00:43:09.920 --> 00:43:12.519 Yeah new Kendrick dropt whole. 925 00:43:12.320 --> 00:43:14.599 Album, and like they want you to like go through 926 00:43:14.639 --> 00:43:16.639 the entire album to make because the idea of having 927 00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:19.440 like a one breakout single isn't as important as like 928 00:43:19.840 --> 00:43:20.920 listening to the whole thing. 929 00:43:21.079 --> 00:43:22.119 I find that very interesting. 930 00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:25.760 But to be honest, I I hate single Like I 931 00:43:25.800 --> 00:43:27.800 hate when an artist releases the same time. I'm always 932 00:43:27.800 --> 00:43:29.800 like just wait, just save it for the album because 933 00:43:29.840 --> 00:43:31.159 if I like it, then I listened to it a 934 00:43:31.159 --> 00:43:32.800 bunch and then the album comes out and I'm like 935 00:43:32.840 --> 00:43:34.360 not over it. But it's just kind of like a 936 00:43:34.800 --> 00:43:37.559 like just then, Like that's what Kendrick did with it. 937 00:43:37.639 --> 00:43:39.880 He's just released it out of the blue, and yeah, I. 938 00:43:39.880 --> 00:43:42.960 Kind of had I'm okay if you release us a song, 939 00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:47.320 sure two songs, especially if it's not actually on the album, 940 00:43:47.440 --> 00:43:49.480 like I I mean also at Kendrick did release a 941 00:43:49.480 --> 00:43:51.960 lot of singles that weren't on the album that like 942 00:43:51.960 --> 00:43:54.719 got a bunch of play and had that single uh 943 00:43:55.079 --> 00:43:55.880 a drive. 944 00:43:55.679 --> 00:43:57.360 I guess and then the album had nothing to do with. 945 00:43:57.360 --> 00:43:59.199 It, So I guess one I had an interesting experience. 946 00:43:59.239 --> 00:44:02.039 One artists I do actually listen to a lot is 947 00:44:02.280 --> 00:44:08.159 Ginger Root right now, and they had a couple EPs 948 00:44:08.199 --> 00:44:10.159 that they did over the last few years that like 949 00:44:11.039 --> 00:44:12.840 kind of changed up their sound was really fresh. 950 00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:14.920 I was into. And then this. 951 00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:17.280 Year they or I guess last year technically they finally 952 00:44:17.320 --> 00:44:20.400 put out like a full album that was kind of 953 00:44:20.400 --> 00:44:24.320 a continuation of that sound and like it's good, but 954 00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:26.960 it didn't like grab me the way the EPs did, 955 00:44:27.000 --> 00:44:30.559 because like I already heard that new sort of like 956 00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:32.920 style and sound that they were going for in the EP. 957 00:44:33.159 --> 00:44:36.360 So by the time like the full like album dropped, 958 00:44:36.960 --> 00:44:38.920 I was just like, oh, yeah, it's more of that. 959 00:44:39.239 --> 00:44:41.400 It was like kind of interesting now, Like it wasn't bad. 960 00:44:41.400 --> 00:44:44.800 It was just like, oh huh, anyway, just a weird observation. 961 00:44:45.039 --> 00:44:47.800 Yeah, there you go. Yeah, all right. 962 00:44:47.960 --> 00:44:54.039 Video games, I've been playing Path of Exile too a 963 00:44:54.039 --> 00:44:54.440 little bit. 964 00:44:54.800 --> 00:44:56.119 Yeah, it's interesting. 965 00:44:56.239 --> 00:44:59.920 Yeah, I've never played the original Path of Exile. I 966 00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:02.960 of came out in this period where it was like 967 00:45:03.000 --> 00:45:07.360 post Diabolo three, where people were like not into Diablo 968 00:45:07.400 --> 00:45:10.440 three or at least like it was different enough, and 969 00:45:10.480 --> 00:45:14.119 people were kind of like, it's not Diablo too, and 970 00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:18.400 Patavegasil said, you know you want Diabolo too, We'll make 971 00:45:18.400 --> 00:45:20.360 that for you, and so like that's kind of what 972 00:45:20.360 --> 00:45:24.079 Patvexil was playing Pat of ex Al too. Now for myself, 973 00:45:25.039 --> 00:45:30.480 it is like so blatantly clear, like this is just 974 00:45:30.519 --> 00:45:35.360 like it's just Diablo, like everything about the aesthetic, the 975 00:45:35.400 --> 00:45:37.880 world design, And I do not mean this as a negative, 976 00:45:38.239 --> 00:45:40.880 like I'm like like this sounds like I'm being like 977 00:45:40.920 --> 00:45:43.480 a derogatory, but like I'm not like it's but it's 978 00:45:43.519 --> 00:45:46.719 just like, oh, you basically just said, like what if 979 00:45:46.719 --> 00:45:50.440 we make an alternative Diablo for people that aren't happy 980 00:45:50.440 --> 00:45:53.800 with current Diablo for whatever reason, either if it's like 981 00:45:53.840 --> 00:45:57.519 the gameplay or maybe they just don't like modern activision 982 00:45:57.559 --> 00:46:00.840 Blizzard and don't want to support them, but like the esthetic, 983 00:46:01.400 --> 00:46:05.480 the level design, the movement. Like I'm just like, I'm 984 00:46:05.480 --> 00:46:08.639 basically playing like Diablo without the name Diablo. 985 00:46:08.679 --> 00:46:11.760 But isn't they all like the skill tree it's supposed to. 986 00:46:11.760 --> 00:46:12.239 Be Like. 987 00:46:14.119 --> 00:46:16.000 Yeah, I saw that and I was like maybe this 988 00:46:16.039 --> 00:46:16.440 is not my. 989 00:46:16.599 --> 00:46:20.480 Now now it is less to be fair once you 990 00:46:20.519 --> 00:46:24.719 actually understand it. It's like you realize that because the 991 00:46:24.760 --> 00:46:26.960 way it works is like you have a starter class, 992 00:46:26.960 --> 00:46:30.159 but at any point you can you can turn your 993 00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:33.400 character into a different class. You can like go down 994 00:46:33.440 --> 00:46:36.960 a different tree, so you will never actually like fill 995 00:46:37.039 --> 00:46:39.119 up that whole tree, You just go down one path. 996 00:46:40.159 --> 00:46:41.800 Could it be laid out in a way that looks 997 00:46:41.880 --> 00:46:44.119 less like. 998 00:46:44.639 --> 00:46:46.199 I think more things need to look scary. 999 00:46:46.679 --> 00:46:47.960 I I kind of go back and forth on it 1000 00:46:47.960 --> 00:46:49.840 where part of me goes like, maybe this isn't the 1001 00:46:49.840 --> 00:46:51.960 best thing, but maybe they just want it. I think 1002 00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:54.519 they want it to look like that because the people 1003 00:46:54.519 --> 00:46:56.679 who are into it are those sickos that see it 1004 00:46:56.719 --> 00:46:59.760 and go, yeah, oh I'm gonna I'm gonna put so 1005 00:46:59.800 --> 00:47:02.079 much fucking time into this game, Like goddamn. 1006 00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:04.159 I think if I were to play Path of Eggs 1007 00:47:04.159 --> 00:47:09.519 out too, I'd probably pay people to like juice my account. Yeah, 1008 00:47:09.639 --> 00:47:10.079 I'd get to MA. 1009 00:47:10.360 --> 00:47:12.239 That's typically against terms of services, is it? 1010 00:47:12.320 --> 00:47:12.519 Yeah? 1011 00:47:12.559 --> 00:47:14.039 You get banned for that? You know, well you probably 1012 00:47:14.039 --> 00:47:17.079 shouldn't do that. Definitely shouldn't stay on a podcast, should 1013 00:47:17.119 --> 00:47:20.480 be a banned for that though? Interest from existence? Yeah, 1014 00:47:20.599 --> 00:47:24.920 I mean yeah, anyway to think about much to think. 1015 00:47:24.760 --> 00:47:26.159 About it's good. 1016 00:47:26.199 --> 00:47:28.000 I like it so far. I'm not very far in. 1017 00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:31.880 I'm like just about to finish the first act. It's 1018 00:47:31.880 --> 00:47:35.159 interesting because the game is free to play, but to 1019 00:47:35.400 --> 00:47:38.280 have to play the early Access, which is currently in 1020 00:47:38.360 --> 00:47:40.280 right now, you do have to buy it still for 1021 00:47:40.360 --> 00:47:42.840 like thirty bucks. I don't know how that's going to 1022 00:47:42.880 --> 00:47:46.519 work when it fully releases, Like do they do? 1023 00:47:46.599 --> 00:47:46.840 We know? 1024 00:47:47.760 --> 00:47:49.719 No. I think they're shooting for this year, but they 1025 00:47:49.719 --> 00:47:55.159 haven't said. The current version has three acts. There's going 1026 00:47:55.239 --> 00:47:57.840 to be six acts total when the full thing releases. 1027 00:47:57.960 --> 00:48:00.519 But they also do have the endgame content in there 1028 00:48:00.760 --> 00:48:02.679 at least like a portion of it, so like you 1029 00:48:02.719 --> 00:48:05.119 can still grind out and do all that stuff after 1030 00:48:05.199 --> 00:48:08.599 you like get halfway through the campaign. By being perfectly honest, 1031 00:48:08.639 --> 00:48:11.960 I think the campaign is good in terms of it 1032 00:48:12.079 --> 00:48:15.440 just being like a fun Diablo style campaign where it's 1033 00:48:15.599 --> 00:48:17.360 very traditional Diablo, where it's like you go to a 1034 00:48:17.760 --> 00:48:20.519 new area, every area feels very different, but it's small. 1035 00:48:20.519 --> 00:48:22.639 It's self contained to do your thing, you move on. 1036 00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:26.320 It's not open world the way four is. Actually don't 1037 00:48:26.360 --> 00:48:28.800 like the way Forest structured open world because I found 1038 00:48:28.800 --> 00:48:33.320 myself just like moving around too much and it felt 1039 00:48:33.320 --> 00:48:35.840 like I'm taking I'm just wasting time, like walking from 1040 00:48:35.880 --> 00:48:39.480 places and I'm not doing things. So I find like 1041 00:48:39.519 --> 00:48:44.400 the pacing of this game way stronger than four. But yeah, 1042 00:48:44.440 --> 00:48:46.960 it's like a fun campaign, like I'm like having a 1043 00:48:47.000 --> 00:48:48.960 really good time, and for like thirty bucks, I'm like, 1044 00:48:48.960 --> 00:48:52.280 i feel like I'm getting my money's worth, and like 1045 00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:54.199 the free to plainness of it, at least in this 1046 00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:57.760 early access portion, is not affecting my gameplay at all. 1047 00:48:57.840 --> 00:49:00.519 It seems purely cosmetic from what I've seen. It's it's 1048 00:49:00.599 --> 00:49:03.960 not like other like Diablo games. Like if you were 1049 00:49:03.960 --> 00:49:06.920 to compare this to I guess like the closest comparison 1050 00:49:06.960 --> 00:49:09.159 would kind of be like a Diablo Immortal, right, because 1051 00:49:09.159 --> 00:49:11.519 that was like free to play mobile game, right, and 1052 00:49:11.559 --> 00:49:14.159 that had like all the gotcha mechanics shoving it down 1053 00:49:14.199 --> 00:49:17.679 your throat, like so clearly like you can like juice 1054 00:49:17.719 --> 00:49:20.320 your account by like paying for it. I don't think 1055 00:49:20.320 --> 00:49:21.880 there's a way to really do that in this game, 1056 00:49:21.920 --> 00:49:26.480 Like all the stuff you buy is just cosmetic. Well, okay, 1057 00:49:26.519 --> 00:49:27.760 the one thing you could do is I think you 1058 00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:30.599 can buy more like stash slots, So that's maybe the 1059 00:49:30.599 --> 00:49:32.840 one thing you can pay for, but as far as 1060 00:49:32.880 --> 00:49:36.360 like you're not paying for like better roles of things, 1061 00:49:36.400 --> 00:49:38.519 like you just have to play the game. And at 1062 00:49:38.519 --> 00:49:42.440 no point have I felt like I've been gated by 1063 00:49:42.840 --> 00:49:45.800 not like oh you know, I have to would I 1064 00:49:45.840 --> 00:49:47.480 would have to grind more if I if I bought 1065 00:49:47.480 --> 00:49:51.440 it so like bought the currency. So I'm just playing 1066 00:49:51.440 --> 00:49:53.119 through it and having a really good time, and I'm like, man, 1067 00:49:53.159 --> 00:49:56.239 this is like this is cool, like this is scratching 1068 00:49:56.280 --> 00:50:00.480 that itch and it like looks it looks funny, nomenal, 1069 00:50:00.639 --> 00:50:04.559 it feels good. It's a little slower paced, you know, 1070 00:50:04.719 --> 00:50:06.360 in a way that reminds me more of a Diablo 1071 00:50:06.360 --> 00:50:10.519 too that I kind of like over for I don't know, 1072 00:50:10.599 --> 00:50:12.320 I'm just having a I'm having a really good time 1073 00:50:12.320 --> 00:50:13.800 with it. I'm like, wow, this is fun and I'm 1074 00:50:13.800 --> 00:50:15.079 playing it with with with Georgia. 1075 00:50:15.239 --> 00:50:17.280 Thank god now that you're playing with Georgia, but you're 1076 00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:20.679 having a good time. Yeah, and then who cares about her? 1077 00:50:23.239 --> 00:50:24.079 But it's it's good. 1078 00:50:24.599 --> 00:50:29.320 Uh the story is nothing, but also I think that's okay. 1079 00:50:29.519 --> 00:50:32.599 It's fine, Like like I've people have talked to me 1080 00:50:32.920 --> 00:50:34.480 like you talk to characters. 1081 00:50:34.119 --> 00:50:38.400 And they would love to play and fucking serious is 1082 00:50:38.480 --> 00:50:38.760 this game? 1083 00:50:41.079 --> 00:50:42.760 They might as well be like I'm just like I 1084 00:50:42.800 --> 00:50:45.159 could hear less about what you're saying, Like I'm actively 1085 00:50:45.159 --> 00:50:49.280 skipping dialogue. But I also don't think that is like 1086 00:50:49.360 --> 00:50:51.320 I don't think you're really coming to this game for 1087 00:50:51.320 --> 00:50:58.960 for story. It's just like, say a thing, what go 1088 00:50:59.039 --> 00:51:03.360 to the CEMETERI and killed the skeletons. Great, perfect, All 1089 00:51:03.360 --> 00:51:04.960 that matters every Diablo game. 1090 00:51:05.039 --> 00:51:06.519 I just skipped the c I like, look at him 1091 00:51:06.519 --> 00:51:06.679 for a bit. 1092 00:51:06.760 --> 00:51:07.679 I'm like, wow, that looks cool. 1093 00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:08.960 Skip. I don't get games. 1094 00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:11.280 In my opinion, I think Diablo has really good, like 1095 00:51:12.199 --> 00:51:16.400 iconic visual in a way that Blizzard knows how to do, 1096 00:51:16.480 --> 00:51:19.280 where like the look of like the angels or like 1097 00:51:19.400 --> 00:51:22.360 just like the different prime evils, like they look cool. 1098 00:51:22.679 --> 00:51:25.280 The actual like moment to moment story has always been 1099 00:51:25.320 --> 00:51:27.719 like I actually did kind of like four story. 1100 00:51:27.880 --> 00:51:30.840 I think the other thing too, is like, especially with four, 1101 00:51:30.960 --> 00:51:32.679 I didn't play it right away. Friends are trying to 1102 00:51:32.679 --> 00:51:34.760 get me to play it. I load in and They're like, oh, 1103 00:51:34.800 --> 00:51:36.760 you just got to getrough gutorials and I'm just like, okay, skip, 1104 00:51:36.760 --> 00:51:38.599 scared and I don't give a shit, Like just don't 1105 00:51:38.639 --> 00:51:39.920 I don't need to know this story. Just let me 1106 00:51:40.000 --> 00:51:40.800 hit things with friends. 1107 00:51:40.800 --> 00:51:43.079 And the best thing that Forehead going was they got 1108 00:51:43.159 --> 00:51:46.000 Ralph Ennis and just hearing his voice, you're like, oh, 1109 00:51:46.039 --> 00:51:47.199 I could just listen to you. 1110 00:51:47.280 --> 00:51:50.880 Who's this? Uh he's he's uh. 1111 00:51:50.639 --> 00:51:55.079 He's he's did you see like The Witch with Robert Eggers, 1112 00:51:55.960 --> 00:51:58.440 He's the he's the dad who's got the deepest guy. 1113 00:51:59.000 --> 00:52:00.880 He was the guy in Final Fans seeing. Yeah, he 1114 00:52:02.679 --> 00:52:04.199 sounds insane. 1115 00:52:04.639 --> 00:52:06.719 That's just how he sounds. I know, there was a 1116 00:52:06.760 --> 00:52:07.880 great he has a great. 1117 00:52:07.719 --> 00:52:11.559 There was a film that I watched that he was No, 1118 00:52:11.639 --> 00:52:12.239 not that one. 1119 00:52:13.440 --> 00:52:15.960 He was in the first Doman That's it. 1120 00:52:16.119 --> 00:52:17.679 And I every time he was on screen, it was 1121 00:52:17.719 --> 00:52:22.199 almost hard to digest the scene because that's what it 1122 00:52:22.199 --> 00:52:24.079 sounds like. There's I can't even do it right now, 1123 00:52:24.119 --> 00:52:25.920 But did you like that? I actually love it. 1124 00:52:25.960 --> 00:52:27.400 I loved the first one. That was one of my 1125 00:52:27.440 --> 00:52:29.800 favorite movies last year. I think so many people slept 1126 00:52:29.800 --> 00:52:31.599 on it. I think it's a I was. I think 1127 00:52:31.639 --> 00:52:34.159 I used to say it's a very I don't know 1128 00:52:34.199 --> 00:52:36.480 if this makes sense, but it's like a very honest 1129 00:52:36.519 --> 00:52:39.760 attempt at trying to make a good horror film. Which 1130 00:52:39.800 --> 00:52:41.519 is probably a weird sentence, but what I mean by 1131 00:52:41.559 --> 00:52:44.559 that is like it felt like it felt sincere in 1132 00:52:44.639 --> 00:52:47.840 ways that I thought movies like Immaculate felt like fucking piss. 1133 00:52:48.119 --> 00:52:49.119 I hated it well. 1134 00:52:48.960 --> 00:52:51.639 That director, I don't know how much you looked into it. 1135 00:52:51.639 --> 00:52:53.960 It has done like one short film and nothing for 1136 00:52:54.000 --> 00:52:56.159 twelve years. They nailed it and did this, and I 1137 00:52:56.199 --> 00:52:58.039 was like, where the fuck did that come from? 1138 00:52:58.079 --> 00:52:58.199 Now? 1139 00:52:58.239 --> 00:53:00.239 I think First Oven is great because it like had 1140 00:53:00.239 --> 00:53:04.800 such a strong direction, Like the ending felt like the 1141 00:53:04.840 --> 00:53:07.440 studio was like, all right, but we gotta put this in. 1142 00:53:08.159 --> 00:53:11.400 But well, this happens a lot with horror movies, but 1143 00:53:11.400 --> 00:53:16.159 they is always like you gotta do a thing you 1144 00:53:16.159 --> 00:53:18.039 know I'm talking about right, like the. 1145 00:53:18.079 --> 00:53:20.480 Very end where oh yeah, you know you're talking about 1146 00:53:20.559 --> 00:53:24.599 yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah. That guy's voice 1147 00:53:24.960 --> 00:53:28.559 is iconic wild. I also just find it funny because 1148 00:53:30.079 --> 00:53:33.400 his voice is amazing. But then in Final Fantasy was 1149 00:53:33.400 --> 00:53:36.599 a sixteen one where he looks like a little the 1150 00:53:36.719 --> 00:53:41.480 character face model is like, so is such a contrast 1151 00:53:41.480 --> 00:53:44.639 to what that voice is. This goes back to my 1152 00:53:45.039 --> 00:53:50.159 whole problem with Embrace. Please, I'm so sick of attractive, 1153 00:53:50.800 --> 00:53:55.119 Like in quotes because it's fucking subjective. Sure, attractive, the 1154 00:53:55.159 --> 00:53:57.880 idea of an attractive person. It's one of the biggest why 1155 00:53:58.039 --> 00:53:59.960 is why I like, I like my eyes, like staying 1156 00:54:00.039 --> 00:54:01.960 when I look at Dragon Age vail Guard. But like 1157 00:54:02.000 --> 00:54:03.960 in Final Fantasy sixteen, when you see that guy and 1158 00:54:03.960 --> 00:54:06.239 you hear his voice, it's like it's such a distant 1159 00:54:07.800 --> 00:54:09.480 make him like, I don't know, just like make him 1160 00:54:09.480 --> 00:54:14.239 look like, fuck, you're pretty boy, I don't know. 1161 00:54:15.239 --> 00:54:16.760 That's why I thought he was a perfect casting in 1162 00:54:16.840 --> 00:54:21.880 Diablo four because he's just like old man beer balding, grumpy, 1163 00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:24.880 grumpy as fuck, and they're like, yeah, great, that's exactly 1164 00:54:25.039 --> 00:54:29.079 who he should be doing. Yeah, and he's an okay actor. Yeah, 1165 00:54:29.320 --> 00:54:31.119 I agree, he's more than just a voice. 1166 00:54:31.320 --> 00:54:32.159 No, totally. Yeah. 1167 00:54:32.159 --> 00:54:33.360 He's just great in The Witch. 1168 00:54:33.679 --> 00:54:38.280 Like long time but I thought it was good. 1169 00:54:39.800 --> 00:54:42.719 But his performance in The Witch is just because it's 1170 00:54:42.760 --> 00:54:45.639 like all old English, like you can't understand half the 1171 00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:48.039 things are saying. But here the entire film, the way 1172 00:54:48.039 --> 00:54:52.039 he delivers it all, it's like, whoa man? Yeah, have you. 1173 00:54:52.039 --> 00:54:53.360 Been playing any other games, Jake? 1174 00:54:53.599 --> 00:54:56.480 I actually have a new game that I can talk 1175 00:54:56.519 --> 00:54:57.960 a little bit about. I haven't played as much as 1176 00:54:58.000 --> 00:55:00.920 I want, but I've been playing Kingdom Come Deliverance too. 1177 00:55:01.599 --> 00:55:02.320 We can talk about that. 1178 00:55:02.360 --> 00:55:04.079 Yeah, there's a preview and Bargo that lifted I think 1179 00:55:04.159 --> 00:55:07.599 last week. Ok there's like I can only talk about 1180 00:55:07.679 --> 00:55:09.119 up to a certain point, but I think it's like 1181 00:55:09.119 --> 00:55:11.199 ten hours in the game, and I played like three, okay, 1182 00:55:11.320 --> 00:55:16.599 if three. I played a good amount of the first one. 1183 00:55:16.719 --> 00:55:18.920 I really liked what the first one was trying to do. 1184 00:55:19.000 --> 00:55:21.760 I liked how it kind of committed to its mechanics 1185 00:55:21.800 --> 00:55:25.960 and its themes in a way that felt uncompromising. However, 1186 00:55:26.239 --> 00:55:28.440 the jankiness because I played it at launch, because I'd 1187 00:55:28.440 --> 00:55:31.239 do it for coverage. Yeah, and I think after a 1188 00:55:31.280 --> 00:55:34.559 while those mechanics started to get annoying. 1189 00:55:34.880 --> 00:55:37.000 That's why I stopped playing that game, and I didn't 1190 00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:37.519 finish it. 1191 00:55:37.559 --> 00:55:39.800 I stopped as much as I was enjoying it, but 1192 00:55:39.880 --> 00:55:42.440 I had a lot of appreciation for a lot that 1193 00:55:42.480 --> 00:55:45.239 they were doing, Like, for example, like one of my 1194 00:55:45.320 --> 00:55:47.400 favorite missions in that game, the request that I will 1195 00:55:47.440 --> 00:55:50.440 remember is when you go hunting and you like think like, 1196 00:55:50.480 --> 00:55:52.199 oh yeah, I'll just take a bow and shoot things, 1197 00:55:52.280 --> 00:55:54.760 and then you're like, wait a second, Henry's never fired 1198 00:55:54.760 --> 00:55:56.440 a bow before. Of course he doesn't know how to 1199 00:55:56.440 --> 00:55:59.320 work this, and you're like this thing all the time. 1200 00:56:00.000 --> 00:56:01.760 It was like hunting for forty five minutes for a 1201 00:56:01.760 --> 00:56:03.960 stupid rabbit, and I like it starts to get dark. 1202 00:56:04.000 --> 00:56:07.119 I'm getting hungry, and I finally kill the rabbit and 1203 00:56:07.159 --> 00:56:10.639 come back and it's just like it. I love that 1204 00:56:10.760 --> 00:56:13.159 like commitment to it, even if I get sick of 1205 00:56:13.159 --> 00:56:18.000 it after a while. But what I've played of Kingdom 1206 00:56:18.039 --> 00:56:21.280 Come Deliverance too, it seems to follow that same vein. However, 1207 00:56:21.920 --> 00:56:26.119 because of like how much more confident they kind of 1208 00:56:26.159 --> 00:56:30.679 seem with that style, I'm more into it so far. 1209 00:56:30.960 --> 00:56:33.079 Part of that has to do with the visual presentation, 1210 00:56:33.239 --> 00:56:37.159 Like it looks incredible. The all the cut. 1211 00:56:36.960 --> 00:56:40.159 Scenes are like I don't remember if Kingo Come Deliverance 1212 00:56:40.199 --> 00:56:41.199 had like proper cut scenes. 1213 00:56:41.400 --> 00:56:43.159 It was all it did. It did they were a 1214 00:56:43.199 --> 00:56:46.480 little they're okay, yeah, I mean in this they look amazing. 1215 00:56:46.519 --> 00:56:49.719 I mean, I've been playing on PC ultra wide and 1216 00:56:49.800 --> 00:56:52.519 I'm finding the story pretty compelling so far. 1217 00:56:52.639 --> 00:56:52.920 Cool. 1218 00:56:53.519 --> 00:56:55.280 It's the same guy, right, you still plays like Henry. 1219 00:56:55.320 --> 00:56:57.679 You still play as Henry's a continuation. 1220 00:56:58.280 --> 00:57:01.559 Name is Henry, Like like Hey, Henry, there's something so 1221 00:57:01.800 --> 00:57:05.199 funny about Like it's like old England, Like everyone's like 1222 00:57:05.239 --> 00:57:08.440 kings in this and you're like, you're just some loser 1223 00:57:08.519 --> 00:57:09.480 guy named Henry. 1224 00:57:09.639 --> 00:57:11.239 Yeah, nobody. 1225 00:57:11.320 --> 00:57:12.599 That was part of the story too. He's just like 1226 00:57:12.599 --> 00:57:15.440 a blacksmith son Yeah, yeah, kind of finds his way 1227 00:57:15.480 --> 00:57:16.719 into Because it's. 1228 00:57:16.519 --> 00:57:18.880 A sequel and you're playing as him, does he start 1229 00:57:18.880 --> 00:57:21.800 out like with more skills so like you don't have 1230 00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:24.719 the or do they like nerve him, Like is it 1231 00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:25.840 like a metroid? 1232 00:57:26.320 --> 00:57:27.199 It is? 1233 00:57:27.519 --> 00:57:29.719 It is somebody broke, But I think it actually kind 1234 00:57:29.760 --> 00:57:31.800 of works the way it happens. 1235 00:57:31.800 --> 00:57:33.920 Does it open with you being like demeaned by someone 1236 00:57:33.960 --> 00:57:36.280 and like destroying yourself esteem so you have to build 1237 00:57:36.320 --> 00:57:36.960 yourself back up? 1238 00:57:37.119 --> 00:57:38.159 Not quite? Not quite? 1239 00:57:38.840 --> 00:57:40.800 Or like Wolfenstein too, where you're in like a wheelchair 1240 00:57:40.840 --> 00:57:41.559 for the first. 1241 00:57:41.320 --> 00:57:41.840 Half of a game. 1242 00:57:42.280 --> 00:57:45.960 Yes, but like at the end of the day, if 1243 00:57:46.000 --> 00:57:48.239 you play King ofcom Deliverance and like you didn't like 1244 00:57:48.280 --> 00:57:50.440 the combat, you didn't like the fact that you were 1245 00:57:50.440 --> 00:57:53.480 babysitting this character, you're not gonna like this. But I 1246 00:57:53.519 --> 00:57:56.239 think if maybe you played the original and kind of 1247 00:57:56.280 --> 00:57:58.679 like hit a point where you thought it was too 1248 00:57:58.880 --> 00:58:02.199 much to kind of deal with constantly. I think you 1249 00:58:02.280 --> 00:58:06.119 might like this just given how how like much more 1250 00:58:06.159 --> 00:58:10.199 polished and and I say polished, like based on my experience, 1251 00:58:10.239 --> 00:58:12.599 I haven't had any issues. Sure, I know other people 1252 00:58:12.599 --> 00:58:14.679 have had issues. I know there are bugs, especially with 1253 00:58:14.760 --> 00:58:17.519 like the safe systems kind of wonky because like the 1254 00:58:17.559 --> 00:58:19.159 original if you remember, but you can only have one 1255 00:58:19.199 --> 00:58:23.480 safe slot yep. So like if a quest breaks, you 1256 00:58:23.639 --> 00:58:27.320 just you know, it's kind of kind of screwed, you know, 1257 00:58:28.719 --> 00:58:32.239 but I'm really enjoying it. One other like weird standout 1258 00:58:32.280 --> 00:58:35.119 thing was there's one quest where they're like, oh, you 1259 00:58:35.119 --> 00:58:38.519 have to like a brew a potion or whatever. You 1260 00:58:38.559 --> 00:58:39.719 have to collect some ingredients. 1261 00:58:40.079 --> 00:58:42.360 And I figured I'd pull up a menu, but no, 1262 00:58:42.679 --> 00:58:44.159 he like has a book and he sets it to 1263 00:58:44.199 --> 00:58:47.280 the side. You like look at the book and then 1264 00:58:47.320 --> 00:58:50.039 it's like, okay, you need this base and you like 1265 00:58:50.320 --> 00:58:52.239 see him pull it off the shelf and you like 1266 00:58:52.440 --> 00:58:54.559 select it and put it in. Wow, and it's like, okay, 1267 00:58:54.559 --> 00:58:56.960 you got to low it to the fire. Let it boil. Okay, 1268 00:58:57.000 --> 00:58:58.559 Now you can add the CAM a meal. And you 1269 00:58:58.599 --> 00:59:00.559 add the CAM a meal, you have to like it off, 1270 00:59:00.920 --> 00:59:03.320 flip a timer. Wait thirty seconds and then bring it 1271 00:59:03.400 --> 00:59:06.159 back down and it's so involved, and I feel like 1272 00:59:06.199 --> 00:59:09.000 it'll probably be really fucking annoying after a while, but 1273 00:59:09.960 --> 00:59:11.800 in the moment, I'm like, this is the shit I love. 1274 00:59:12.079 --> 00:59:14.639 Like it's just it's it's like very Red Dead code. 1275 00:59:14.679 --> 00:59:16.840 I was gonna say that Red Dead two like, but 1276 00:59:16.920 --> 00:59:18.719 even maybe more extreme. 1277 00:59:18.760 --> 00:59:20.719 And maybe like at some point, like because you can 1278 00:59:20.760 --> 00:59:23.840 also with brewing, you can like you can brew a 1279 00:59:23.840 --> 00:59:25.599 lot if you want, and it'll still take the about 1280 00:59:25.639 --> 00:59:27.519 the same amount of time, So maybe there's ways to 1281 00:59:27.599 --> 00:59:30.079 sort of speed it up, or maybe skill trees can 1282 00:59:30.239 --> 00:59:33.199 can kind of change that. But I just love how 1283 00:59:33.199 --> 00:59:36.480 like tactile that game feels. I and I was thinking 1284 00:59:36.480 --> 00:59:38.000 about what I was playing some of this morning. I 1285 00:59:38.039 --> 00:59:40.519 was thinking about a lot of like my feelings on Cyberpunk, 1286 00:59:40.559 --> 00:59:44.559 and like that game I definitely came around on in 1287 00:59:44.599 --> 00:59:46.880 a big way, and I and now I think of 1288 00:59:47.039 --> 00:59:51.039 Cyberpunk in like a very positive manner, especially that that expansion. 1289 00:59:51.559 --> 00:59:54.360 But I think like one of the things that I 1290 00:59:54.400 --> 00:59:56.440 really felt like Cyberpunk was missing was just sort of 1291 00:59:56.440 --> 01:00:01.360 like that tactile experience, Like you couldn't like sit on 1292 01:00:01.400 --> 01:00:03.840 a like go to a bar, sit at the seat 1293 01:00:03.960 --> 01:00:06.599 and just get a drink. You couldn't like. 1294 01:00:06.800 --> 01:00:08.159 You could only do it when it was there was 1295 01:00:08.159 --> 01:00:09.840 a story cut scene where you would do that. 1296 01:00:09.920 --> 01:00:12.159 If you ate food, it would just like you'd see 1297 01:00:12.159 --> 01:00:14.000 like a thing men you pop up, you know, and 1298 01:00:14.039 --> 01:00:16.920 this it's like like you wake up and like he's 1299 01:00:16.960 --> 01:00:18.320 like I should eat some stew and he like goes 1300 01:00:18.360 --> 01:00:21.840 over and leans and and it's just that tactile feeling 1301 01:00:21.920 --> 01:00:25.679 that I think for RPGs, I find so important for 1302 01:00:25.840 --> 01:00:28.480 me because that's what really pulls me into that world. 1303 01:00:28.480 --> 01:00:30.000 And I know it's like a fucking pain in the 1304 01:00:30.039 --> 01:00:32.880 ass to animate and design and develop for that, and 1305 01:00:32.920 --> 01:00:35.559 I don't expect like every game to do it, but 1306 01:00:35.599 --> 01:00:36.000 I think. 1307 01:00:35.880 --> 01:00:38.320 With Cyberpunk it made sense because the whole thing was 1308 01:00:38.360 --> 01:00:40.360 they were the pitch of that game was like you're. 1309 01:00:40.239 --> 01:00:42.119 Gonna live in exact city. 1310 01:00:42.199 --> 01:00:44.840 It's real place, and like they want so it's like 1311 01:00:45.039 --> 01:00:48.559 you do want to go more Red Dead two versus 1312 01:00:48.599 --> 01:00:51.719 like GTA five, I think, where like GTA for me 1313 01:00:51.760 --> 01:00:53.400 it's like, nah, I just want to like run around 1314 01:00:53.440 --> 01:00:56.119 and chaos, Like I don't really care about run over, 1315 01:00:56.199 --> 01:00:59.480 sitting down and meticulously eating like a burrito or whatever. 1316 01:01:00.280 --> 01:01:01.960 Oh, that'd be kind of funny if you could do that. 1317 01:01:02.519 --> 01:01:04.519 But like, yeah, we're a Red Dead. You're like, I 1318 01:01:04.559 --> 01:01:06.559 want to walk into the store and I want to 1319 01:01:06.599 --> 01:01:08.920 flip through the catalog and live. 1320 01:01:08.800 --> 01:01:10.159 In that world. Yeah. 1321 01:01:10.199 --> 01:01:12.639 So yeah, on top of that, I'll say, like the 1322 01:01:12.719 --> 01:01:15.679 voice acting is really I'm really impressed by the voice acting. 1323 01:01:16.559 --> 01:01:18.239 So yeah, like I said, I've only played a couple hours. 1324 01:01:18.239 --> 01:01:22.159 I'm really excited to play more. Like I don't know 1325 01:01:22.199 --> 01:01:24.519 if I'll finish it. I wonder if like I'll hit 1326 01:01:24.559 --> 01:01:26.400 a similar wall like I did with the first one, 1327 01:01:26.400 --> 01:01:28.920 where it's like, Okay, I can't, I can't do this anymore. 1328 01:01:29.159 --> 01:01:32.679 But as of now, very excited to keep going. See 1329 01:01:32.679 --> 01:01:33.920 what else that game has in store? 1330 01:01:34.159 --> 01:01:37.079 Awesome. Do you like have to pee and poop? 1331 01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:38.800 I don't know. 1332 01:01:38.960 --> 01:01:40.559 I don't three hours in. 1333 01:01:40.679 --> 01:01:42.519 I don't think so you you do have to like 1334 01:01:43.000 --> 01:01:45.320 wash and shower and clean because people will like is 1335 01:01:45.360 --> 01:01:46.079 that a mini game? 1336 01:01:46.760 --> 01:01:46.960 No? 1337 01:01:47.079 --> 01:01:49.440 But like you go to a Troughton okay, but but 1338 01:01:49.440 --> 01:01:51.679 if you go to a Troughton clean, you can only 1339 01:01:51.719 --> 01:01:52.400 get so clean. 1340 01:01:52.599 --> 01:01:53.039 Okay. 1341 01:01:53.159 --> 01:01:55.599 But like if you're like you know, running around fighting 1342 01:01:55.679 --> 01:01:58.199 and stuff, you get dirty and or like someone will 1343 01:01:58.239 --> 01:01:59.000 throw poop on you. 1344 01:01:59.039 --> 01:02:02.320 Is what happened. You know, game you can use you 1345 01:02:02.679 --> 01:02:03.639 have to use the bathroom in. 1346 01:02:03.599 --> 01:02:06.119 Depending on what you do deadly premonish you. 1347 01:02:06.199 --> 01:02:08.639 No, I was gonna say, lower line laser eyes. Don't 1348 01:02:08.639 --> 01:02:11.400 you drink too much coffee? Your gets full? Do you 1349 01:02:11.400 --> 01:02:13.519 have to use the bathroom deadly? You can, right, but 1350 01:02:13.559 --> 01:02:14.039 you don't. 1351 01:02:13.840 --> 01:02:17.719 Have you shave, that's shave and shower, Yeah, so that 1352 01:02:17.760 --> 01:02:20.639 you have to the flies don't buzz around your head. 1353 01:02:20.639 --> 01:02:24.039 You have that. That's it and even like there's really 1354 01:02:24.079 --> 01:02:25.440 no consequences for. 1355 01:02:25.800 --> 01:02:28.760 Yeah, it's just the you lose arbitrary, must just have 1356 01:02:28.800 --> 01:02:31.840 a beer and flies will be doesn't run in cut scenes, 1357 01:02:31.840 --> 01:02:32.679 which is very funny. 1358 01:02:32.719 --> 01:02:35.119 Yeah, it's hilarious when that happens. You're right. Yeah, you 1359 01:02:35.159 --> 01:02:38.719 lose like arbitrary. Yeah, you lose money. You lose money, 1360 01:02:38.719 --> 01:02:41.559 but the money is like it's like comes so easy, 1361 01:02:41.559 --> 01:02:43.239 Like you get money just for driving. 1362 01:02:42.920 --> 01:02:45.800 For a long time, and yeah, the money is like inconsequential. 1363 01:02:45.880 --> 01:02:46.039 Yeah. 1364 01:02:46.119 --> 01:02:48.679 Also it's like forty dollars for like crackers from a venting. 1365 01:02:49.639 --> 01:02:54.159 It's so funny. Yeah. Anyways, but you know, if they 1366 01:02:54.159 --> 01:02:59.800 add an update to PP you know another play through, right, there. Yeah, yeah, 1367 01:03:00.039 --> 01:03:02.320 I mean stalker to One of my favorite bugs is 1368 01:03:02.320 --> 01:03:09.960 just watching a person walking while hey man, hey's stalker guy. 1369 01:03:10.079 --> 01:03:11.679 He's just piss is coming out of his pants. 1370 01:03:11.679 --> 01:03:14.920 It's great. 1371 01:03:15.079 --> 01:03:17.000 Yes, have you been playing anything? No? 1372 01:03:17.519 --> 01:03:19.719 All right, thank you for listening to game Spot after 1373 01:03:19.800 --> 01:03:24.039 Dark episode play Shivers polatry Geist. 1374 01:03:25.280 --> 01:03:28.719 Yeah, which you know what that is? I mean I do. 1375 01:03:29.000 --> 01:03:33.920 Yeah, where'd you rank it? 1376 01:03:34.280 --> 01:03:36.480 Tears? It was a good one. It was just ended 1377 01:03:37.079 --> 01:03:39.119 too soon. I think it's better than the first one. 1378 01:03:39.760 --> 01:03:44.559 Shiver Timbers, the Vanishing Hitchhiker. What did you say me? 1379 01:03:44.719 --> 01:03:45.280 Timbers? 1380 01:03:46.480 --> 01:03:51.280 That's the third one? Shiver me Timbers? Is there a pirate? 1381 01:03:52.320 --> 01:03:55.400 That's the one where it's left in the dark? To 1382 01:03:55.519 --> 01:03:57.960 one on board? The pirate of It? 1383 01:03:59.199 --> 01:04:00.280 That's my favorite name. 1384 01:04:01.159 --> 01:04:02.840 Yeah, left in the dark, no one on board? 1385 01:04:03.360 --> 01:04:05.400 This isn't there another part to the titler? 1386 01:04:05.480 --> 01:04:07.400 Is that? What's it? I think that's it. It's just 1387 01:04:07.400 --> 01:04:09.960 a fucking insane on the dark, no one on It's 1388 01:04:09.960 --> 01:04:13.960 like yeah, it's almost like, uh it's yeah, it's like 1389 01:04:14.079 --> 01:04:17.199 abandoned at the street corner and your pants are undone. 1390 01:04:17.199 --> 01:04:21.320 I don't know. That actually kind of could make sense. 1391 01:04:21.360 --> 01:04:30.719 And yeah, I mean somebody turned out the lights. Forsaken souls. 1392 01:04:32.280 --> 01:04:34.199 Anyways, No grocery store is closing. 1393 01:04:34.559 --> 01:04:37.480 Is your mom home? Yeah? Yeah, it has to be. 1394 01:04:37.880 --> 01:04:41.599 It has to feel like, uh, call, like you have 1395 01:04:41.639 --> 01:04:45.679 to make a phone call. The grocery store is closed. Yeah, 1396 01:04:45.920 --> 01:04:49.360 I don't know. The mailman. Let me try one. 1397 01:04:52.119 --> 01:04:54.800 I got nothing great. I thought you're gonna say red. 1398 01:04:56.119 --> 01:05:00.440 I just see colors. I was the male man is late. 1399 01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:01.679 Where is your dog? 1400 01:05:01.840 --> 01:05:05.199 Yep? Exactly yep? And then that game has nothing to 1401 01:05:05.239 --> 01:05:07.760 do with dogs or the mail man. Yeah. Yeah, it's 1402 01:05:07.760 --> 01:05:08.320 a pirate game. 1403 01:05:08.440 --> 01:05:09.599 Yeah, it's a fire game. 1404 01:05:09.800 --> 01:05:13.320 The no. But I bought a bunch of games over 1405 01:05:13.360 --> 01:05:16.320 the holiday break and I played none of them. That's 1406 01:05:16.320 --> 01:05:20.159 not true. I played three hours of one. As I 1407 01:05:20.199 --> 01:05:22.480 played three hours one that I actually did not end 1408 01:05:22.519 --> 01:05:25.599 up enjoying, even though I left a really good first impression, 1409 01:05:25.679 --> 01:05:27.920 but I got real tired of it, which was sorry, 1410 01:05:27.960 --> 01:05:29.920 We're closed. That was the game that I think has 1411 01:05:29.960 --> 01:05:32.679 like a really really strong start and a really strong 1412 01:05:33.679 --> 01:05:36.320 like puts the right foot forward to get me excited, 1413 01:05:36.320 --> 01:05:38.079 but then it falls into the traps of games I 1414 01:05:38.119 --> 01:05:42.320 do not like, which is characters and drama and relationships 1415 01:05:42.360 --> 01:05:44.960 that do not mean anything to me. It's a very 1416 01:05:45.000 --> 01:05:48.519 relationship focused game and that's and that's great. Totally fine 1417 01:05:48.519 --> 01:05:52.639 with that, but it doesn't I get very if you've 1418 01:05:52.639 --> 01:05:54.760 listened to the podcast. I just have a problem, I know, 1419 01:05:55.119 --> 01:06:00.079 with drama and storytelling in such a way, and I 1420 01:06:00.639 --> 01:06:02.639 don't have patience for people's fucking bullshit. 1421 01:06:03.920 --> 01:06:06.280 I feel like I keep recommending games to you that happened. 1422 01:06:06.280 --> 01:06:08.199 Well, you didn't recommend Sory We're Closed. I recommend No. 1423 01:06:09.159 --> 01:06:13.679 I recommended Homecoming, Homebody Home. That was one of those. 1424 01:06:13.760 --> 01:06:14.519 It's kind of like that. 1425 01:06:14.800 --> 01:06:16.360 I mean, it's fine. I think it's totally fine. I 1426 01:06:16.360 --> 01:06:18.920 would I would absolutely suggest people play Sorry We're Closed. 1427 01:06:19.400 --> 01:06:21.920 I think there's a lot of cool, like old school 1428 01:06:21.960 --> 01:06:23.639 gameplay elements to it that they do it, and it's 1429 01:06:23.719 --> 01:06:26.920 like almost like a suit of sure fifty one way 1430 01:06:28.239 --> 01:06:33.599 or Grasshoppers should be more specific. Otherwise, No, I didn't 1431 01:06:33.599 --> 01:06:34.639 touch anything else. 1432 01:06:34.920 --> 01:06:37.639 You played Mouthwashing, right, not yet you happy? 1433 01:06:37.800 --> 01:06:38.920 That's one of the games I bought that I just 1434 01:06:38.920 --> 01:06:41.119 didn't touch. I put that's one of those games where 1435 01:06:41.159 --> 01:06:44.079 the demo did not leave a good impression on me. Okay, 1436 01:06:44.119 --> 01:06:47.280 I just didn't play it, but based on praise from 1437 01:06:47.440 --> 01:06:48.960 you know, Jake and other you know. 1438 01:06:49.039 --> 01:06:51.960 I finally played Over the Break and I quite enjoyed it. Okay, 1439 01:06:52.000 --> 01:06:55.039 so yeah, I thought the ending went a little They 1440 01:06:55.039 --> 01:06:56.599 could have cut like fifteen minutes at the end of 1441 01:06:56.639 --> 01:06:58.039 that game and it could have been a little stronger. 1442 01:06:58.079 --> 01:06:59.239 But I did like I didn't like. 1443 01:06:59.199 --> 01:07:02.159 The valves though, no turning the valves. 1444 01:07:02.159 --> 01:07:05.199 I like, turn in the valves, get a valve. 1445 01:07:05.000 --> 01:07:06.719 Simulator for I think that game could have just been 1446 01:07:06.800 --> 01:07:08.840 like trimmed a little bit at the end, but otherwise 1447 01:07:08.840 --> 01:07:09.480 I did enjoy it. 1448 01:07:09.519 --> 01:07:11.639 Yeah, I mean, like the demo didn't leave the biggest 1449 01:07:11.679 --> 01:07:14.039 impression on me, but based on people's recommend I mean 1450 01:07:14.119 --> 01:07:16.559 just excitement about it, I'm going to be it is. 1451 01:07:17.000 --> 01:07:18.880 And this is like not a criticism against the game. 1452 01:07:18.960 --> 01:07:20.440 It's one of those things where I'm like, man, I 1453 01:07:20.440 --> 01:07:22.840 think I would have because I enjoyed it, but but 1454 01:07:22.880 --> 01:07:26.559 also I wasn't like that changed my life, which it 1455 01:07:26.599 --> 01:07:29.679 doesn't need to. But it's just well, I think it's. 1456 01:07:29.440 --> 01:07:31.719 The expectation is dwarfed when people are. 1457 01:07:31.880 --> 01:07:33.840 I think if I had present this was a game 1458 01:07:33.880 --> 01:07:37.119 that I just randomly picked out of Steam having never 1459 01:07:37.159 --> 01:07:39.280 heard of and played it, I think I would have been. 1460 01:07:39.199 --> 01:07:43.800 Like, wow, that's how I played the demo blew me away. 1461 01:07:43.880 --> 01:07:45.559 Like maybe I would have felt strongly bad it, but 1462 01:07:45.559 --> 01:07:48.760 like having it's just a consequence of you know, you 1463 01:07:48.840 --> 01:07:50.639 hear it get talked up so much, and then you 1464 01:07:50.679 --> 01:07:51.480 finally play and you're. 1465 01:07:51.320 --> 01:07:53.159 Like, yeah, that was good, Like you should just stop 1466 01:07:53.199 --> 01:07:56.800 listening to everyone except for Jake and me and this podcast. 1467 01:07:56.920 --> 01:07:59.679 Yeah yeah, I mean I think for me, I think 1468 01:07:59.679 --> 01:08:01.280 I mention it before, but like. 1469 01:08:01.800 --> 01:08:04.280 I didn't really have fun playing that game, Like I 1470 01:08:04.400 --> 01:08:06.360 enjoyed parts of it, and I was appreciated that you're 1471 01:08:06.360 --> 01:08:07.320 supposed to have a good time. 1472 01:08:07.400 --> 01:08:10.039 Yeah, really, it was definitely it definitely felt pretty delayed, 1473 01:08:10.039 --> 01:08:12.159 like it was like a couple of days, even like 1474 01:08:12.159 --> 01:08:14.639 a week later, as I was like still putting things 1475 01:08:14.679 --> 01:08:16.640 together in a way, and I was like, oh, that's 1476 01:08:16.680 --> 01:08:17.399 pretty fucked up. 1477 01:08:17.439 --> 01:08:18.800 I see why that character. 1478 01:08:18.479 --> 01:08:19.359 Said that or did that. 1479 01:08:19.560 --> 01:08:21.079 Ye, And like there are certain. 1480 01:08:20.800 --> 01:08:23.439 Moments that I thought were like very well done. I mean, 1481 01:08:23.520 --> 01:08:28.239 the the the street Light monologue in particular, I thought 1482 01:08:28.319 --> 01:08:29.279 was like very. 1483 01:08:29.279 --> 01:08:32.800 Ah, I forget that character's name, but Swanse yeah, like 1484 01:08:32.840 --> 01:08:36.600 Swanse or Swanse yeah, Swansea everything. I think he's the 1485 01:08:36.600 --> 01:08:40.279 strongest character and like a lot of the stuff he 1486 01:08:40.359 --> 01:08:44.319 said stuck with me. Yeah, and very like, oh man, 1487 01:08:44.359 --> 01:08:47.079 that is cynical as fuck, I know, and like like 1488 01:08:47.199 --> 01:08:50.279 that monologue was so cynical and like you never see 1489 01:08:50.319 --> 01:08:52.479 that in games, you know, like you find him in 1490 01:08:52.479 --> 01:08:54.279 books and movies, sure, but like I feel like you 1491 01:08:54.520 --> 01:08:56.279 rarely ever see anything. It was like it was someone 1492 01:08:56.319 --> 01:08:58.840 who's really like yeah beaten. 1493 01:08:58.800 --> 01:09:02.640 And I that was written in how like anyway, I 1494 01:09:03.039 --> 01:09:06.920 thought that moment was very powerful for me. 1495 01:09:07.560 --> 01:09:08.960 It's cool, but I think. 1496 01:09:08.840 --> 01:09:12.079 Like as I was playing it, I was like, Okay, 1497 01:09:12.079 --> 01:09:14.800 that's cool, but like I'm still not having fun, Like 1498 01:09:14.840 --> 01:09:16.399 I had to force myself to get through that game. 1499 01:09:16.439 --> 01:09:18.920 So I do agree with you. I think like they 1500 01:09:18.920 --> 01:09:21.279 probably could have shaved off fifteen hours, right, Yeah, I 1501 01:09:21.319 --> 01:09:23.159 think it took me like almost three hours. 1502 01:09:23.159 --> 01:09:26.640 I think I didn't two, and it did in one setting, 1503 01:09:26.720 --> 01:09:29.359 so it's like a one setting thing. But yeah, it's 1504 01:09:29.680 --> 01:09:33.680 there's there's moments where that game tries to be more 1505 01:09:33.720 --> 01:09:36.199 like Gamy, and I think that's where it kind of 1506 01:09:36.239 --> 01:09:38.279 falls apart a little bit where I'm just like no, 1507 01:09:38.479 --> 01:09:40.079 like I actually just. 1508 01:09:40.119 --> 01:09:40.680 Kind of preferred it. 1509 01:09:40.680 --> 01:09:43.119 When I just walked down a hallway and story stuff happened, 1510 01:09:43.119 --> 01:09:45.640 and then like, I appreciate that you try to mix 1511 01:09:45.680 --> 01:09:47.399 it up, but I found that to actually, like bog 1512 01:09:47.479 --> 01:09:52.119 Down the Pacing, there's a pretty big like community who 1513 01:09:52.159 --> 01:09:54.279 were like into that game though no it's like. 1514 01:09:54.239 --> 01:09:55.800 There's a cause play and stuff. 1515 01:09:55.840 --> 01:09:57.760 Oh no, no, people are like really into it, and 1516 01:09:57.800 --> 01:09:59.760 to be fair, people bleep out the main characters and 1517 01:09:59.800 --> 01:10:04.159 name for like like yeah, because they don't wanna Yeah. 1518 01:10:04.800 --> 01:10:07.399 I also like do think that game is like cool 1519 01:10:07.439 --> 01:10:10.199 and different and ambitious, and I definitely like am going 1520 01:10:10.239 --> 01:10:12.479 to pay attention to that developer and like what they 1521 01:10:12.520 --> 01:10:15.039 make next, just because I'm like, Okay, I think you 1522 01:10:15.079 --> 01:10:19.800 guys make interesting stuff like so even if, like you know, 1523 01:10:21.800 --> 01:10:23.920 it didn't fully work for me, I'm obviously gonna like 1524 01:10:24.119 --> 01:10:24.840 I think they're cool. 1525 01:10:24.960 --> 01:10:26.880 So I hope you hate it. 1526 01:10:27.640 --> 01:10:32.119 Oh, whatever happens happens, never happens happens. I'm notoriously the 1527 01:10:32.159 --> 01:10:34.880 person who doesn't take recommendations, but everything I consume is 1528 01:10:34.880 --> 01:10:35.800 actually a recommendation. 1529 01:10:35.840 --> 01:10:37.079 I know you do. You do take a lot of 1530 01:10:37.119 --> 01:10:37.880 recommend I take. 1531 01:10:38.399 --> 01:10:42.000 I take them all, and I take It's like I 1532 01:10:42.079 --> 01:10:45.680 take all recommendations very seriously, except for ones when I know. 1533 01:10:45.760 --> 01:10:48.880 I don't give a fuck like and that's fine. Ted 1534 01:10:48.960 --> 01:10:51.199 La like ted Lasso, don't fucking recommend me to. 1535 01:10:51.279 --> 01:10:53.920 Also, you were you ended up on the right side. 1536 01:10:54.039 --> 01:11:01.159 No ship, It's called intuition. Anyway. 1537 01:11:01.800 --> 01:11:03.520 There's been an episode of games Spot after Dark. 1538 01:11:04.600 --> 01:11:07.479 We're coming back. We're coming back. We're here. That's good. 1539 01:11:07.560 --> 01:11:10.880 I like how I like this. People can't see it. 1540 01:11:11.119 --> 01:11:13.279 I like this desk we have because I'm able to. 1541 01:11:14.319 --> 01:11:15.119 But I like I like that. 1542 01:11:15.239 --> 01:11:18.600 Max back there and he's not Max Bomenthal. He's nodding. 1543 01:11:18.640 --> 01:11:22.880 I like the desk because I can see you two. 1544 01:11:23.199 --> 01:11:25.159 I feel like the energy. The energy is good in here. 1545 01:11:25.319 --> 01:11:27.399 I'm enjoying it. I like that there aren't like awkward 1546 01:11:27.680 --> 01:11:31.640 pieces of wood like trapping my leg side. I do 1547 01:11:31.720 --> 01:11:34.520 find my soul fiddling with this. I might throw these 1548 01:11:34.560 --> 01:11:35.399 away or get it. 1549 01:11:35.319 --> 01:11:36.479 You know, get a little fidget thing. 1550 01:11:37.479 --> 01:11:39.079 Just I just fit fidget with that. 1551 01:11:40.119 --> 01:11:41.199 I think that's fine. It's part of. 1552 01:11:42.840 --> 01:11:45.000 This has been Game Spot after Dark. Thank you both 1553 01:11:45.720 --> 01:11:48.880 for tuning in being here, Thanks for wanting me to 1554 01:11:48.920 --> 01:11:51.319 be here. Thank you much for leaving your phone at 1555 01:11:51.359 --> 01:11:53.119 the door. Thanks for leaving your phone at the door. 1556 01:11:53.199 --> 01:11:56.039 Thank you Max in the back, who is like running 1557 01:11:56.079 --> 01:11:56.479 this Now. 1558 01:11:56.399 --> 01:11:58.520 You're gonna hear Max's name a lot on this podcast. 1559 01:11:59.279 --> 01:12:02.239 We're just gonna say, ah, that's the sound of his face. 1560 01:12:02.960 --> 01:12:06.960 By the way, thank you all for listening. In a 1561 01:12:07.000 --> 01:12:07.319 new year. 1562 01:12:07.359 --> 01:12:10.720 I hope we're having a decent start to your twenty 1563 01:12:10.760 --> 01:12:13.000 twenty five or good start to your twenty twenty five, 1564 01:12:13.079 --> 01:12:16.279 or at the very least, thank god it's Friday and 1565 01:12:16.319 --> 01:12:18.880 you can just have a moment of peace if that 1566 01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:23.079 is the case. But yeah, we'll be back next week. 1567 01:12:23.119 --> 01:12:27.079 We're going to try and do this. We're doing it regular. 1568 01:12:27.600 --> 01:12:31.119 We're not gonna as best as we can. You know, 1569 01:12:31.159 --> 01:12:34.640 we've been I think last year was very wobbly with 1570 01:12:34.640 --> 01:12:36.439 with kind of getting out on a regular cadence, and 1571 01:12:36.479 --> 01:12:39.319 I really want to try and do that where we're 1572 01:12:39.359 --> 01:12:43.399 just we're here once a week for you. So look 1573 01:12:43.399 --> 01:12:45.520 forward to that and look forward to eventually this thing 1574 01:12:46.319 --> 01:12:48.600 coming up live. Well it'll be on the YouTube channel, 1575 01:12:48.680 --> 01:12:52.000 be on twitch. We'll talk about that when that stuff happens. 1576 01:12:52.039 --> 01:12:55.199 But yeah, until then, we appreciate you all listening and 1577 01:12:55.239 --> 01:12:57.079 we'll see you next time. 1578 01:12:57.199 --> 01:13:00.199 Goodbye, b. 1579 01:13:02.880 --> 01:13:21.119 B B b B BODM