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Speaker 1: It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for

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Ignition with the aw fat On podcast team. This is

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the first episode in our fourth year of of of

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shows and uh, well let's kick it off with a

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really good show. We've got a lot to talk about tonight.

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Howdy there to U two ep W show. Great to

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see you, Conrad. Be sure to check out Conrad and

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the ep W show Everything Pro Wrestling podcast right after

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Dynamite tomorrow on YouTube. That's at EPW show. Uh, they're

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always really fun, funny, good guys, give them a listen.

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Let's get going with our show. And the first thing

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we're going to talk about is uh kind of a

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very relevant topic and that's we just saw Grand Slam.

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Let me just back up right now, what did you

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guys think of Grand Slam? Were you happy with it?

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And let's even go beyond that, let's look at a

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dynamite before Grand Slam? What did you guys think of

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last week's shows?

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Speaker 3: Shows were fantastic, You had great matches throughout, you had

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multiple title changes, I mean, really good story building for Revolution.

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You know what I'm really things about both Dynamite and

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Grand Slang. I love both shows, and I mean Willer.

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Speaker 1: Shave right spoiler alert.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it's been it's been more than seventy well yeah,

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I just want to do more than seventy two hours.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Let me just break in real quick and say

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lo to Matt Lopez. Uh he joined the chat. Good

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to see you, Matt, always good to see you. Rawlins.

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What about you? What did you think of last week's

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Dynamite and then Grand Slam on Saturday?

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, that chromo battle between John or

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Not John Moxley, You excuse me, I was jumping ahead

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between Kenny o'meaga and Swerve Strickland was unbelievable. The fact

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that Swerve even made reference to the suspension and everything

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would brawl out. I was just like, damn, he really

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went there. Uh So that was great. And then we

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got two title changes, one of which I really wasn't

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expecting with Tecla and Chris Scatlander, though I kind of

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got it because if you remember with Hangman and Samoa Joe,

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they had their regular match at I believe it was

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Russell dreaming if I'm not mistaked, And then when they

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did the rematch at full gear that had a stipulation

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attached to it, that being a steel cage, and Samoa

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Joe won. So yes, it surprised me that Tecla won,

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But at the same time it didn't. I know a

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lot of people are gonna say, why are they going

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back to Young Bucks FTR. They could do that match

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one hundred tons and I will watch every single time.

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Those four guys together just make magic. And Yeah, in

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terms of Grand Slam, I certainly wasn't expecting John Moxley

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and Takesha to go to a time lamb a draw,

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and the other thing I will say about that match specifically,

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I thought Okada was going to come out and not

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necessarily come down your ringside because I know all the

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Continental rules, But I thought like his towards the end

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of the match, his his music would play and he

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would just come out onto the onto the entrance and

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distract to excuse me, distract to Kesha.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what did you guys? Did you guys catch that? Uh,

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the end of the match kind of between I'm talking

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about Moxley and Takesha kind of fell flat. Uh, it

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didn't get a really good reaction out of the crowd

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and you could clearly see Moxley go to the referee

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tell him that he wanted to catch it to hit

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the raging fire. The referee then went to Takeshta, passed

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along the information and then they did it. That was

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really good communication and I think it really did save

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the match, because without that that would have been kind

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of a bummer ending. I mean it did. It kind

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of fell flat. Did you guys catch that?

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Speaker 3: I did? And it worked really well because you could say,

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like in AFA terms, Moxley's like, we need five more minutes,

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we need to finish this, and you know, the referees

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kind of communicating, and then he gets word, no, we can't.

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That's the TV time. So you get that and then

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you get to build on the end and you get

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revolution and Moxley's like, through the time limit, there's got

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I did. I did want to break in because

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I thought Grand Slam was damn good. As a matter

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of fact, let me put it back up again. He said,

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Brody step up as a main event player. Guy, Hey, look,

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we talked about this on Ignition last week. Aw's got

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to take advantage of Brody King's newsworthiness. I guess it's

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the best way of putting it. I'm sorry, Roll, let's

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go ahead. What were your thoughts there?

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Speaker 4: So with the time limit, I actually forgot that the

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Continental rules are different on Dynamite Collision versus pay per View.

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a twenty minute match, whereas I'm pay per View it's

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a sixty minute match. So once they went to a

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time limit draw, I'm like, well, obviously they're gonna do

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the rematch at Revolution And I was like.

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Speaker 3: Well, what about it?

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Speaker 3: So, right, what, I'm pretty sure matches are always twenty minutes?

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Speaker 3: Do go to pay view. Was the tournament, well.

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Speaker 1: The finals, the championship matches are different, you know in

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the tournament? Yeah, yeah, but pay per view. I do

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think that unless they changed the specifically change the stipulation,

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I do think that the normal stipulation is exactly what

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we saw in the takeshta Moxley match is twenty minutes,

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you know, and no outside I guess you can't even

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call it interference, no outside nothing.

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Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is, from what I understand, if

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they do the rematch at Revolution, the no outside interferings

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and all that will stay the same, but the time

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limit would change from twenty minutes to sixty minutes.

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Speaker 1: That could very well be I'm sure. I'm sure that

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I hope that AW will make that clear to everybody

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before Revolution. I think one of the weaknesses that AW

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has been noticeable because the shows have been so damn good,

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is that a lot of times you have people that

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I've seen posting on our discord and on our subreddit, which,

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by the way, if you're watching this, the links are

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right there on the screen for you to to join us.

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But one of the things that I've seen people saying

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is that they don't really understand the rules, you know.

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seems my called for a rematch with no time limit

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on a W A W Socials. I did not see that,

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but hey, look, Matt is one of those guys that

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he's he's a news sound and if he says it,

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it is absolutely true. I absolutely take his word for it.

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Speaker 4: I question, sure, did you think it was the right

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call for NJF. Brody to be the main event instead

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of the Ladder Man?

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Speaker 3: You know, that's one of those things. I was kind

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of like it would make sense to put the Ladder

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Match as the main event because Ladder Match is a

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big deal and it's Kyle Fletcher. I don't know if

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he's from Sydney, but it is his home country for sure.

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I forget where they say he's you know from. There's

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also the you know, the world title minion events unless

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they're say special stipulation like the lights Out Match or

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when they've done an RT and the Arena or the

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stadium stampede. So it's one of those.

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Speaker 1: At wrong or right, you know what for I'm going

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to give a weird answer here. For TV it was right.

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For the arena itself, it was wrong. Look, Kyle Fletcher

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is from Australia, and in my opinion, Kyle Fletcher coming

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home should have been coming Home as the TNT champion

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should have been the main event. The reason why it

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wasn't right for TV is this is that traditionally the

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last quarter hour of AW dynam and AW Collision struggle

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to get the ratings and get the viewership. Also, keep

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in mind, on Collision, it was an extra half hour,

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so instead of a two hour show was a two

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and a half hour show, So that added to that,

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it exacerbated that. So, yeah, it kind of made sense

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to me that you would put the Kyle Fletcher and

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uh and uh oh my god, Mark Mark Brisco. I

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could see his teeth or lack thereof, but I couldn't

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remember his name. Yeah, it kind of made sense to

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me that for TV purposes that they will put that

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match as the non main event.

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Speaker 4: So I get why they put MJF. Brody at the

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main event. That way Boy or Hangman could come out

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and they could set that match up for Revolution.

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Speaker 2: So I did understand that what the ladder match.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't just the fact that it was a ladder match.

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Speaker 2: It was the fact that it was Game seven in.

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Speaker 4: The series between Mark Risco and Kyle Fletcher, and AW

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never came out and called it a best of seven series,

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which I thought was great. You don't need to call

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it a best of seven. We know, like we quickly

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figured out, okay, this is going to be a best

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of seven. But it's not like they kept going back

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to it over and over and over again, like you

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know what I mean. Like, so because of all that,

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I'm like, yeah, should have been the main event.

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Speaker 3: It definitely makes It's like a difference were it comes

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TNT and it being a tn T title. MAT's it

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definitely Touto's main event. I also get what Kelson is saying,

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like you want that you want that big bat to

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happen and hopefully retain some of the viewers you lose,

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but also if you do lose, you had that big

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match happen, you know before you lost. It's one of

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those I don't I don't disagree with either of you.

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You both did a really good points. It could have

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gone either way. You know, I was happy with the

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show overall. So I guess this is one of those

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things that kind of feels like maybe a little nitpicky.

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Speaker 1: Right, Well, let me ask you guys a question here,

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because we had another match that was maybe not like

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the greatest match in the world, but it was a

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very big talking point. Of course, that was the the

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hair I guess, the hair versus Hair match, And I've

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heard a lot of people say that it really didn't matter.

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it was odd that they were back to back. It

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didn't matter which one went first and which one went

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as the main event. It was simply the fact that, uh,

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they were back to back. Would do you guys think

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it may have been a better idea for them to put, say,

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the ladder Match, then the hair versus Hair match, and

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then the main event World Championship Match.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I think that would have worked well because

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you get the crazy Ladder match with all the spots

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in it. Obviously the Hair verse hair match had some

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crazy moments and spots in it, but not as not

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as insanely violent and like oh my god, please don't

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freaking die, you guys movements like.

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Speaker 1: Right, well, okay, well let's let's let's get rawlins and

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you don't let him share his thoughts.

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Speaker 4: So, just to touch on the last conversation Teober quick

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and then I will answer your question, Kelson. I think

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part of it is like I'm a sports junkie, so

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when it's Game seven that like the Penn ultimate game,

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it's win or go home. So like that's the other

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reason I wish the Ladder match had been the main event.

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it kind of reminds me of Revolution from last year,

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where I think they went right from the steel cage

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match between Kyle Fletcher and Will Ostrey. I think it

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went correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it

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or no, I'm sorry, I have that completely wrong. I

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think it went steel cage match, Omega ta keshta, and

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then the main event. Do I have that right?

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was not you know, wasn't up there basically that that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you're right on that. It sounds correct

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like they went it was like three to insane matches

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back to back, and you know, I think that's kind

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of one of the complaints some people have with AW

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It's like, man, we don't have a second to breathe, Like,

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you know, it's not like I won't you know, a

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match and then a twenty minute BS segment. Man after

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some of these matches, like a little three minute break

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just you know whatever would sometimes be helpful. And it

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almost kind of felt like that with some of these

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super shows, like we're getting all these great matches, but

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it's almost like a marathon session where like by by

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the time by the last match, you're almost earned doubt

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and it's like I just needntes, I just need.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, let me let me break in real quick.

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Because Matt Lopez did chime in in the chat, cant

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didn't mean it should have been in the middle of

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the show. But there's a debate, uh debate ladder match

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should have main evented. Yeah, you know, basically reiterating, you know,

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the thoughts that I've seen a lot of people you know,

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in the community share. I'm sorry, Rollins go ahead, but the.

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Speaker 4: Point I was trying to make, whatever the order was

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with Revolution, like those were three great matches. The Steel

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Cage Okay, maybe not Moxley co Cope one, but like

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the Steel Cage and then Omega Taksha.

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Speaker 2: And it's like I didn't get up even like three minutes.

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Speaker 4: To really just react to what I just saw it

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because I'm going into another crazy match, right.

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Speaker 1: Give me like a cool down match, you know, so right, yeah, absolutely,

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I mean you do need a breather. I mean, you

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don't hate to say it, but you know you need

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a bathroom break too, or to go get go you know,

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put more dips in your in your uh in your

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cup so you can dip your chips and stuff like that.

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You know, yeah, take the take the dogs out, you know.

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Speaker 3: So honestly, I would kind of like maybe cut down,

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cut out one match and instead give us, you know,

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like three to five minutes between these match where you

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can you can set something up for Dynamite, you can

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you know, hype up a future pay per view, Like

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we don't need the twenty minute ad breaks you know

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some shows, but ball breaks in between these insane matches

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would be really helpful. So I kind of feel like

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I'm saying my stake two juicy my lobster to buttery fight.

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Speaker 1: Right, No, I get it. You know, There's one other

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thing that I wanted to bring up. Just you know,

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I just think it's something that's worth mentioning. We once

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again we saw a title change last week in the

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TNT Championship. I may be wrong here, maybe off by one,

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so anybody in the community can go and check. But

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since about this time in twenty twenty five, the TNT

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Championship has changed hands I believe eight or nine times.

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I actually believe it's nine times, and that's pretty hopitatoing

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that championship, which I don't mind at all. Then you

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look at the other championship, it's sister championship, the TBS Championship,

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and then the same amount of time it's only changed

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hands twice, went from Willow Nightingale to Mercedes Monet and

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then from Mercedes Monet to Willow Nightingale. The other thing

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I'll mention here is in those eight or nine title

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changes in the T and T Championship, we've had quite

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a bit of different T and T champions in that

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time span, whereas the TBS Championship has only been you know,

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and I don't even think it's I think this is

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from twenty twenty four, not twenty twenty five. With the

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TBS Championship, we've only had two women holding the TBS championship,

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and I personally, and I've mentioned this before, I think

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it's a it's kind of a waste to have Willow Nightingale.

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As much as I like her, I think it's kind

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of a waste to have Willow Nightingale with two aw

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titles strapped around her waist or held over her shoulders.

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I don't know what you guys think about that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, hey, look, I've always said I want to

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TNT and TBS titles to be like TV titles. I

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want to see him defended regularly. I want to see

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him changing hands on a decent basis. And you could

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use it as kind of that floating title where like, okay,

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you really want to get a guy over, put that

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TNT title on him, have him go on a crazy

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run of defenses, and boom, he is immediately established. Same token.

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You got a you know, upper mid card guy who

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you're kind of like, man, I want to keep him

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on TV, but we don't really have, you know, a

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story for him. Slap the TNT title on him, let

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him have a nice little run of defenses, and then

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drop it to a kid. You want to say, a kid,

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but a person you want to give the rub two

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like that titles. I mean, the name of the network

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is on the title. T and T title defended every

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or at least every other defend.

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Speaker 2: They've done it.

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Speaker 1: Really, They've done a really good job with the TNT

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title as far as defending in open challenges and whatnot.

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I think the weakness year is the TBS title. Uh.

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I understand that. The reason why it's been only changed

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hands what twice is because Mercedes mon Ad had it.

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And I thought Mercedes mon A run with the TBS

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title was absolutely terrific. I'm not taking anything away from that,

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but now that Mercedes does not have the title, it

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needs it needs to be hot Potato. I really do

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think that it needs to come off of Willow Nightingale

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a S A P. I would have much preferred. I

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would have much preferred Techla taking the TBS title to

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the world title. Put it that way. Although I have

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no problem with tech one.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting you say that tells in because since Willa

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won it from Mercedes, her one title defense thus far

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was against Julia Hart on Collision.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that was just a one off. I

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think now that has the.

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Speaker 2: Women's World Championship.

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Speaker 4: I think Julia Hart's gonna be like, well, well, I

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want another crack at the TVs Championship.

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Speaker 1: I would personally like to see, uh see sky Blue

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get it rawlins. To be honest with you, I think

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sky Blue deserves with all the work that she's done.

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Taking nothing away from Julia Hart, I think sky Blue

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is absolutely next in line for a title, whether it's

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the tag team title, the TBS title. I don't think

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she's you know, world title material, but I do think

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that that sky Blue is is up there. I will

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I'm sure we'll talk about this, you know, another week,

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but I do want to move on because as we're

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trying to keep these shows to an hour, and we've

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already been going twenty five minutes, so we've already got

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three quarters two quarters of an hour left basically, so

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let's move on. I want to talk briefly about the

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signings that AAW has done. We saw Leana Cross debut

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this week. We've seen and we saw The Inspiration also

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debut this week. Of course, the Inspiration debuted at a

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house show, which is kind of interesting. But I'm sure

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they'll get a big coming out party maybe on maybe

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on dynamite, but absolutely by collision. They'll get a coming

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out party, they'll get their graphic, they'll get put on

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the aw roster page. But it's clearly that they have

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been signed. But we've also seen we've also seen men,

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you know, the previous weeks, we see quite a few

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men come in here. So what I wanted to know was,

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let's throw some names out there and let's decide whether

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we think that a w or R o H A

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a w R o h H should sign these people.

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I'll start by saying, Dakota Kai, what do you guys think?

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Speaker 3: I think she'd be a solid addition to the roster.

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And you know, we were I remember you mentioned him

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last week. But there's a lot of inactive women on

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the roster, and the number of active women is actually

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relatively so, and most of those who are inactive are

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for reason injury, some with THEES. Yeah of course, yeah, yeah,

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I think let's.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's just keep let's just keep it. You know,

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the answer short if we can, because are you know

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and if you guys, matter of fact, since you went first,

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you answered first, why don't you some we don't have

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to talk about the same people over and over again.

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So why don't you throw it out out a name

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if you have one. If not, we'll go to Rawlins.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's David Finley.

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Speaker 1: Said a name. I guess, yeah. But when you talk

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about David Finley and Gay Kid, I guess they're kind

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of a packaged deal. What do you think about David

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Finley and Gabe Kid Rawlins?

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Speaker 4: Well, from everything I've read, it sounds like David Finley

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is on his way at WWE. Like everything I've read

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is like they're already coming up with creative for him, right.

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I am surprised Gabe Kid hasn't gotten like the All

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Elite graphic yet because like he's involved with Clark Connors

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in a matt or a few'd rather with Darby Allen

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at the moment, and he had that pay per view

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matched with Darby. So I'm like, how is he not

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gotten the All Elite graphic yet?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 1: I again, A lot a lot of that probably has

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to do with I think it's got to be contractual thing.

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I personally think when it comes to somebody like Gabe

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Kid uh and Clark Connors, I'll throw Clark Connors in there.

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I think that they're working toward double contracts or dual

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contracts with with these particular people, because let's face it,

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you know, and Chris knows more about it than I do.

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But if you look at New Japan Throw Wrestling four

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years ago compared to today, I don't even know how

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why they would even think doing a forbidden door this year,

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because there's nobody there that I want to see. Just

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being honest with you, you know.

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Speaker 2: I will say it.

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Speaker 4: I know she's currently under contract with WWE, but I

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would love to see Bailey come over to a w Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Bailey's contract from what I've heard, runs out

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at the end of this year, so she's going to

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be there until the end of the year, and uh,

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she's gonna come probably. I really do expect Bailey to

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come to aw to be with her buddy Mercedes Monette.

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I really do. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of people are open she comes

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over when the contract is up. I know, I am.

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Speaker 1: There was a discussion on the aw fan hub subreddit

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today actually started by me. Actually wasn't on the aw

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fan hubsubreddit, was on the Women's Pro Wrestling subreddit, but

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I had an idea again with dual contracts, but also

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goes to the women's division. Start of course and CML

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are part of the partnership with AW. AW has already

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signed Persephone to a dual contract. I really really do

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believe that as far as the women's division goes, they

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are very highly likely to try to sign lach Catalina

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to a dual contract. On the men's side, obviously, mystica

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would be one would a templario. You know, there's different

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men and women in CML. But I also but I

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thought about stardom. I thought it would be a cool idea.

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There are a couple of women in Stardom, young women

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eighteen year old a Zuza Naba and I think twenty

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two year old Keick you for SAWA have stated that

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they wanted to wrestle overseas. Why not get some of

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these stardom women taken and get some of the free

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up some of that money in Boushi Road, because Bushy

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Road owns New Japan and Stardom free up some money

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so they can make their own big signings. Put some

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of these wrestlers on New Japan and on Startum under

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dual contracts with AW and CMLL even you know, And

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and my idea was to make a faction because stardom

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is very very very much faction oriented. Why not get

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a revolving door of AW wrestlers going over into a

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faction with Azuza Naba at Kikyo Versaala have then come

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over to AW as well and wrestle you know, in

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the faction and just have a like an international faction

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from AW and startum partnership and you could even throw

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you know, somebody from them. Olympia has been over in

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CML wrestling or tailoff and doing really well. Dark Silhuetta,

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until she was injured, had gotten there. Now she's back

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from what I understand, so she may be willing to

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go back there too. So you can have a big

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faction in stardom that CML and AW are participating in

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paying for. And there's no reason why you couldn't do

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the same thing. Why not have you know, I know

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it's a dead deal now, but what could what could

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have been Bull Club war Dogs as an a w

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n JPW faction.

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Speaker 3: I definitely love the ideas like the International Fast and

470
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,880
you know they go, they kind of travel and you

471
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:52,720
can kind of plug and play wrestlers you know here

472
00:31:52,759 --> 00:31:55,960
and there, like you have two or three from stardom,

473
00:31:56,559 --> 00:31:59,000
you know, one or two from CMLL, a few from

474
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,160
a job. You you can send.

475
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,559
Speaker 1: Them back and forth exactly.

476
00:32:03,519 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 3: You can have like say a Maki Eito come over,

477
00:32:07,759 --> 00:32:10,680
you know, because she's team I think she's teamed up

478
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:14,519
with or she's kind of the mentor of the one

479
00:32:14,559 --> 00:32:15,680
you mentioned.

480
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: She's Yeah, she's been teamed up with Kikio for a

481
00:32:17,839 --> 00:32:21,440
Sawa quite a bit. And you've got you know, and

482
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,759
you've already got wrestlers like Megan Bain has been over

483
00:32:25,839 --> 00:32:28,000
in Japan just as much as he's been in uh

484
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,039
in the United States, you know, in November and December.

485
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,920
Lada Cross has done a lot of time and in

486
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:38,960
Japan as well with Sundai girls. So yeah, it's not

487
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,839
like we that aw doesn't have women's wrestlers who are

488
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,240
not willing to go to Japan.

489
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, and like you can have them kind

490
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,920
of like, Okay, you've send some of us, Wilson, some

491
00:32:51,079 --> 00:32:54,440
of ours. You know, they can team up when they're

492
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,039
over there. They you know, your girls can team up

493
00:32:58,079 --> 00:33:00,720
with ours when they come over here. You know you've

494
00:33:00,759 --> 00:33:04,640
worked that out, and yeah, like a just have it

495
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:09,640
be kind of an international faction. That's not They're not

496
00:33:09,799 --> 00:33:12,559
always going to be there every week, but some of

497
00:33:12,599 --> 00:33:16,319
them will always be in one of the companies representing

498
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:17,480
kind of yeah.

499
00:33:17,519 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 1: But you know, one of the things that was brought

500
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:24,240
up too, wh we're talking about factions a W with

501
00:33:24,359 --> 00:33:28,400
the signings that they've done and where they've been placed.

502
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:33,599
If you've noticed, AW is kind of building a faction

503
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:38,160
warfare system quite a bit. I mean, think about it.

504
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:42,680
You've got the Death Writers, You've got the Conglomeration uh STP,

505
00:33:44,559 --> 00:33:49,119
there's just a bunch of different factions, the elite or

506
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,039
even starting to reform. I guess you could say, you know,

507
00:33:54,720 --> 00:34:00,440
so are you four in ae W? Are you for

508
00:34:00,599 --> 00:34:03,759
a faction warfare kind of system.

509
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 4: I do think it's interesting that like with Death Riders

510
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:15,360
versus don Kallas Family, for example, they started with a

511
00:34:15,519 --> 00:34:21,280
street fight and now they've gone backwards and done a

512
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:26,599
series of trios matches. It just feels like they it

513
00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:29,960
should have been the opposite where they did all these

514
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,719
trios matches and then done the big street fight. But

515
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:40,760
who knows, it could be leading to something bigger. So

516
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,280
I do like that, But it's just like the don

517
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,760
Kallas family has like twenty five thousand people in it,

518
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:54,360
and the Death Riders only have Claudio, Pack, Wheeler, Moxley

519
00:34:55,320 --> 00:35:01,760
and Marina, right, so don Kallas can just grow all different.

520
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: Right, you know. But my point is is that there

521
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:09,159
are so many factions now that have you know, at

522
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:13,079
least two to three men in them, along with women's Skyflight.

523
00:35:14,679 --> 00:35:19,880
You know, I mentioned STP earlier, the crew, they all

524
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,199
have now added a woman to their midst. And of

525
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,840
course they are not all predominantly ae W factions. There

526
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,920
are you know, r o H factions in their far

527
00:35:31,559 --> 00:35:37,119
varsity not varsity athletes, but the athletes with us story

528
00:35:37,159 --> 00:35:44,639
Denali added to their to their ranks. I like the faction,

529
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,079
and I'm interested to hear what you guys think about this.

530
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:56,400
I like the factions because injuries do happen. And I

531
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,039
don't know which wrestler it was, but in the last

532
00:35:59,119 --> 00:36:01,400
day or two, I think think it was Chris Statlander

533
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:06,320
that said that with these tag titles, trios titles, they

534
00:36:06,599 --> 00:36:08,599
she would like. I think it was stat Landers, since

535
00:36:08,599 --> 00:36:11,719
you would like the freebird system to be put in.

536
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,000
You know, where somebody goes down, somebody can replace them,

537
00:36:15,159 --> 00:36:19,559
no questions asked, you know, because how many times have

538
00:36:19,679 --> 00:36:24,920
we seen the titles and stories four titles be put

539
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:31,360
on hold simply because one or more of the wrestlers

540
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:35,559
that were involved in the story were not available due

541
00:36:35,599 --> 00:36:36,119
to injury.

542
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. We were talking about it in the

543
00:36:39,039 --> 00:36:41,920
discord a few days ago with I was like, I

544
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,920
didn't even realize these More Toast was an ROAH tag

545
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,920
team champion, and it's like, yeah, that whole thing was

546
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:54,840
kind of weird because you had Sammy and Dustin as

547
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,960
the tag champions. Dustin got injured, so Sammy got to

548
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,760
get a replacement Rush and did the whole thing, and

549
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,760
then Rush got injured, so these more Toast was the replacement.

550
00:37:06,159 --> 00:37:10,639
But every time it was almost like they had to

551
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:15,239
vacate the titles just to put it on the same

552
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,440
guy with a new with a new partner. If they

553
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,840
would have just had the free bird rule in effect,

554
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,480
it would have just been simple, Okay, there's here's the

555
00:37:24,519 --> 00:37:28,760
guy replacing it. Here's the guy replacing it. Uh yeah,

556
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,760
I can see. And you know, I'm a big New

557
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,360
Japan fan. Factions are a big deal there, so I'm

558
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,639
a big I'm a fan of factions. I love the

559
00:37:36,679 --> 00:37:40,840
fashion Warfair, I love seeing you know, multiple matches, like

560
00:37:42,119 --> 00:37:46,800
you know, a lot of times you'll see you know,

561
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:51,119
two guys from the same factions facing, You'll see like

562
00:37:51,159 --> 00:37:54,360
three matches with the same factions in it. So yeah,

563
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:55,599
I'm a big fan of the factions.

564
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:57,760
Speaker 1: Right, what about you wrong?

565
00:37:58,119 --> 00:38:01,079
Speaker 4: Well, like I said, I'm very much in joining the

566
00:38:01,159 --> 00:38:05,159
Death Riers Don Kallas stuff. It just feels like it

567
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:13,199
started backwards by doing the street fight first. Playing in general, Yeah,

568
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:18,079
I like it. It's interesting you're talking about the freebird

569
00:38:18,199 --> 00:38:22,679
rule because if I remember when aw did like that

570
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:28,039
big spring Breaking show or whatever it was called, Moxley

571
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:33,519
used the free Birger freebird rule. Excuse me to step

572
00:38:33,559 --> 00:38:37,400
in and defend the trio's titled when they lost to Joe.

573
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:43,280
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, they did that. That was spring Breakthrough. Yes, right,

574
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,280
you know what it's really interestingly we talked about Lenda

575
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:52,000
Cross earlier being brought in. She's obviously going to Megabad,

576
00:38:52,679 --> 00:38:56,960
you know, so I guess it's Mega Time's too bad

577
00:38:57,039 --> 00:39:01,760
now because Lenda Cross is taller than Meghan Baine, not

578
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:06,599
quite as bulky, but not not a shadow of Megan

579
00:39:06,679 --> 00:39:10,000
Maine by any chance. I mean, she's she's a she's

580
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:16,639
a force to be reckoned with the inspiration. Uh. I

581
00:39:16,679 --> 00:39:20,119
don't know if you're familiar with them, but that's an

582
00:39:20,159 --> 00:39:22,239
interesting thing. Where in the world do they go?

583
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 3: Uh.

584
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: I do think that there will be in a faction

585
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:33,519
because frankly speaking, there aren't many women that aren't in

586
00:39:33,599 --> 00:39:36,280
a faction that are active right now, I mean really

587
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:37,880
active right now.

588
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 4: I also think it's interesting just talking about like trios

589
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:51,280
and factions in general that like Jet Set Rodeo or

590
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:55,800
whatever they're calling themselves now they I don't think they've

591
00:39:55,920 --> 00:40:01,000
had one title defense of the Trio's titles, taking him

592
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:05,679
from the op and now you've got Hangman, who's obviously

593
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:12,800
one third of that trio, going after MJF and on Dynamite,

594
00:40:13,159 --> 00:40:16,880
Speedball and Kevin Knight. We're talking about possibly going after

595
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:22,440
tag team titles, rand singles titles, and I'm like, you guys,

596
00:40:22,519 --> 00:40:25,400
are the Rio tight champions?

597
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 1: Yeah? Well you know Rolins, I've long been a proponent

598
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,840
of just getting rid of the Trio's championships. I do

599
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:37,519
think that Jet Speed should be going after the tag titles.

600
00:40:37,599 --> 00:40:40,880
I do think that Jet Speed should be going after

601
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:46,199
individual titles, or being at the very least in individual feuds.

602
00:40:46,599 --> 00:40:50,320
Kevin Knight and Mike Bailey have proven that they are

603
00:40:51,559 --> 00:40:55,559
very capable of putting on engaging as hell matches.

604
00:40:56,440 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 4: I mean, for God's sakes, Like I loved that match

605
00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:04,039
between Kevin Knight and Swerve Strickland. And if you remember

606
00:41:04,559 --> 00:41:09,239
during the C two, Kevin Knight beat Okata.

607
00:41:09,639 --> 00:41:12,760
Speaker 1: Right, look at Mike Bailey and Kyle Fletcher during the

608
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:17,559
cy too. Both of those matches that you mentioned, Kevin

609
00:41:17,639 --> 00:41:22,679
knighton and Okata, those are really really good matches that

610
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:29,719
were also so much in doubt that it made it

611
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:34,920
more interesting to see that they were interesting matches.

612
00:41:35,679 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 3: I think the trio titles it's kind of one of

613
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:45,599
those it was a last minute decision because they weren't

614
00:41:45,639 --> 00:41:48,079
able to resign Hobbs, and I think they're just kind

615
00:41:48,079 --> 00:41:50,760
of like, Okay, you know what, these three guys, they'll

616
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:55,079
be good champions. We'll give them that. But then it's

617
00:41:55,119 --> 00:41:57,440
kind of like, Okay, I've got to figure out something

618
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,039
to do, but I don't know what to do. So

619
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:04,719
I think the trios titles are gonna might be in

620
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,199
a weird, little kind of holding pattern for a bit.

621
00:42:08,199 --> 00:42:10,760
I think this I think the best way would be

622
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:16,239
a trio Trios title mat three on three on three,

623
00:42:17,079 --> 00:42:20,639
and that way you can have you know, whoever you

624
00:42:20,679 --> 00:42:25,280
want to put the titles on, pen someone else. If

625
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:29,039
we don't want to, you know, have them pinning Hangman

626
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:30,000
or Yeah.

627
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,599
Speaker 1: But the thing is is that Hangman is kind of

628
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:37,119
for all intent purposes, he's out of the trios title

629
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:41,039
loop because he's doing something else right now, you know

630
00:42:41,039 --> 00:42:41,480
what I mean?

631
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I think you just on

632
00:42:45,559 --> 00:42:49,679
a upcoming show, you decide if Tony Kahan, you know,

633
00:42:50,159 --> 00:42:53,159
makes one of his wacky match decisions, you know, like

634
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,079
he's known for. Just like you know what I think,

635
00:42:56,159 --> 00:42:59,159
I think this sounds fun. Let's do it. So you

636
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:03,119
have them, say, you know, the main event of Solution

637
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:09,159
on February twenty eighth is a you know, three team

638
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:10,599
trios title match.

639
00:43:11,039 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: Here's the thing though with that, Okay, when you look

640
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:20,039
at the Trios and what you're suggesting, it kind of

641
00:43:20,079 --> 00:43:23,920
seems like an afterthought or a big gimmick. If you're

642
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:28,280
not going to take the trios title seriously, which frankly,

643
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,880
aw hasn't been taking the trios title seriously at all,

644
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,679
get rid of them. Make it a the trios titles

645
00:43:37,039 --> 00:43:40,920
or to six man titles as Roh calls it. Exclusive

646
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,880
to Roh, there is no reason, no reason, there's no

647
00:43:45,079 --> 00:43:51,679
room for the trios titles in a W. They are

648
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,599
the weakest link goodbye.

649
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,119
Speaker 4: It makes me wonder just in general. I know we're

650
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:01,159
like supposed to be talking about warfare and factions and

651
00:44:01,199 --> 00:44:03,480
all that, but it just makes me wonder based on

652
00:44:03,519 --> 00:44:05,320
our whole conversation.

653
00:44:05,599 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 2: Does AW have too many championships?

654
00:44:09,119 --> 00:44:12,079
Speaker 1: Yes? And no, And let me explain what I'm saying here.

655
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:17,840
I don't think that AAW has too many championships. I

656
00:44:18,039 --> 00:44:24,559
don't think that AAW has enough meaningful championships. And I'm sorry,

657
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:30,320
but the big deal for me has always been the

658
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:36,440
Trios Championship. It's just not a meaningful championship. It's is

659
00:44:36,519 --> 00:44:41,079
the basement. It's no better than the FDW Championship. It

660
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:45,199
just didn't belong. It had some fun moments, but it

661
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:49,599
wasn't really part of you know, the conversation. It wasn't.

662
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,880
Let me put it this way, it wasn't bringing in viewers.

663
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,840
I believe it wasn't bringing in viewers, and I believe

664
00:44:55,880 --> 00:45:00,000
it wasn't bringing in pay per view, but buys what's

665
00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:04,920
last time we had a decent feud for the trio's championship.

666
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,320
I would say that the last time we had a

667
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:14,679
decent feud for the trio's championship was resolved in Webley

668
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,920
all in twenty twenty three. Everything else has just been filler.

669
00:45:19,679 --> 00:45:20,840
That's just the way I look at it.

670
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's hard to disagree with you on that.

671
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:30,639
I think they have one two mini titles. I think

672
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,920
world title. That's easy to say what it is. International

673
00:45:36,079 --> 00:45:41,199
can be your you know, upper mid card, like these

674
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:45,480
are the next guys up for the world title TNT,

675
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,079
that's your floater. This is hey, we want to make

676
00:45:48,079 --> 00:45:51,440
sure this guy is getting TV times, so he's going

677
00:45:51,519 --> 00:45:56,360
to be the champion. National can be your travelingue, workhorse title,

678
00:45:57,039 --> 00:46:00,559
and the continentals should be gone and the winner of

679
00:46:00,639 --> 00:46:02,360
the tournaments to get a title.

680
00:46:02,159 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: Mat Yeah you see, I even forgot that the national

681
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:11,159
title even existed. And that's the problem with oh what.

682
00:46:11,599 --> 00:46:14,679
I want to backtrack because I said that AW doesn't

683
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:19,639
have too many championships. They have too many meaningless championships.

684
00:46:20,199 --> 00:46:23,679
If a W had twenty championships and they all meant something,

685
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,920
then they don't have too many championships. That's just my opinion.

686
00:46:29,079 --> 00:46:33,960
But really, you know, the Internet, the Internet, not the International,

687
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:39,280
the Trios Championships, Championship, the National title, they really don't

688
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:43,239
mean anything to me. Now. I'm willing to give the

689
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:47,079
National title a little bit of a break because it's

690
00:46:47,119 --> 00:46:51,480
a new title, but the Trios Championship have proven to

691
00:46:51,519 --> 00:46:54,360
be you know, dog water, I'm sorry.

692
00:46:54,039 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 4: They are, Rickasha, I will say ric ashe has done

693
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:03,559
a great job since coming to National champion So I

694
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,679
like it a little more than you do. Pelsan, though

695
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,800
I understand what you're saying in terms of that.

696
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 2: And I know the last one of the last times I.

697
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,559
Speaker 4: Was on this podcast, we had a big discussion about

698
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:27,280
like is o'conna holding the International Championship hostage? And you know,

699
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,199
I haven't been able to get that question or that

700
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:36,800
whole conversation off of my mind right. Like Okada had

701
00:47:37,679 --> 00:47:41,400
had like one title defense on Collision. I forget who

702
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,599
it was against off the top of my head, but

703
00:47:45,159 --> 00:47:47,360
it was a good match, and.

704
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,199
Speaker 2: I was like, wait, this guy.

705
00:47:50,679 --> 00:47:54,039
Speaker 4: I don't remember the last time Okada actually defended that

706
00:47:54,199 --> 00:48:00,760
International Championship prior to that episode of Collision, so I

707
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,639
have changed my thought process on that a little bit,

708
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:08,199
because I remember I was saying, like, no Okada with

709
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,360
the International Championship is fine, But now I'm just like,

710
00:48:12,559 --> 00:48:14,519
has AW forgotten about that?

711
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 3: Uh?

712
00:48:17,039 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: You know, AW has a thing where they do. AW

713
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,960
does a lot of tournaments, whether it's a male tournament

714
00:48:25,039 --> 00:48:27,920
or a female tournament, they do a lot of tournaments.

715
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:33,199
And the problem with doing tournaments is that they take

716
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:41,000
time away from other championships they really do. It's just

717
00:48:41,039 --> 00:48:41,599
that simple.

718
00:48:41,679 --> 00:48:45,119
Speaker 3: That is one thing I wish they would time to

719
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:50,199
go with the new Japan design for G one. You know,

720
00:48:50,679 --> 00:48:54,239
I agree with champion. Every champion is in that tournament

721
00:48:54,679 --> 00:48:57,920
and a win over them gets you a future title match.

722
00:48:58,159 --> 00:49:03,199
Like that's how you can the title scene interesting while

723
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:08,440
you have a month long tournament going on, right, And also,

724
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,440
the winner of the G one or the C two.

725
00:49:13,559 --> 00:49:18,079
Speaker 1: Gets a title shot and that's it. They get they

726
00:49:18,079 --> 00:49:21,679
get it, they get it. They get the belt or

727
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:25,000
a trophy for the C two. But it's an indefensible

728
00:49:25,079 --> 00:49:30,199
title much like the owen Hart. You know, i'd like

729
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:33,039
insist exactly.

730
00:49:33,599 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 3: I think tottent title design, but it's not like it's

731
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:43,079
this iconic design or right, but the thing, one of

732
00:49:43,079 --> 00:49:44,800
those I need to see.

733
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,559
Speaker 1: The thing that makes the Continental title special is that

734
00:49:47,639 --> 00:49:51,840
it's a tournament similar to the C two, to the

735
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,559
G one, I mean the G one climax, similar to

736
00:49:55,519 --> 00:50:00,519
Stardom's uh five star, similar to well, a lot of

737
00:50:00,519 --> 00:50:04,840
tournaments throughout you know, wrestling promotions, but.

738
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 3: The old King of the Ring.

739
00:50:07,159 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's exactly it. But there's no reason to have

740
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:14,599
a beltmore. Besides, you know, if you really want to

741
00:50:14,599 --> 00:50:17,480
get technical about it, other than the tournament, what's the

742
00:50:17,519 --> 00:50:21,280
difference between the Continental and the International title? There is none.

743
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,400
So that's just my opinion.

744
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,760
Speaker 3: If you hold both, you get the unified title.

745
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 1: And I hope the god that nobody in a w

746
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,719
ever holds both of those titles ever again, because that

747
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:41,239
was stupid. It was dumb, It was confusing. It didn't

748
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,039
make any sense to me then, and it doesn't make

749
00:50:44,039 --> 00:50:46,719
any sense to me now. I just didn't like it.

750
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:47,840
I just didn't like it.

751
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:51,760
Speaker 3: It was another reason I would be the title going

752
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,760
the way and being a trophy and the winner getting

753
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,079
a world right, Well.

754
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 2: What the art where the winner gets a title match? All?

755
00:51:05,119 --> 00:51:10,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can, Well, we've got a little less than

756
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,920
eight minutes to go in the show, so I think

757
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:18,039
it's time to move on to Oh God two. It's

758
00:51:18,519 --> 00:51:23,599
It's a kafa It's it's our little part of the

759
00:51:23,639 --> 00:51:26,360
show where we could talk about anything, kind of like

760
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:31,519
bullet points, rapid fire, not really a long discussion, but

761
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:35,920
just making a little bit of a statement. And every

762
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:40,239
week I create a new graphic for It's a Kafabi.

763
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,599
And if you are the unfortunate soul that's watching us

764
00:51:43,679 --> 00:51:47,760
right now, I'm about to reveal one of the absolute

765
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:53,559
most disturbing graphics I have ever created. Here we go

766
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:58,280
three two one and.

767
00:52:01,519 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 3: What He's wrong with you?

768
00:52:04,039 --> 00:52:07,639
Speaker 1: Hey, But I have to say something here for the

769
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:11,000
people that are listening to this on an audio podcast.

770
00:52:11,639 --> 00:52:15,599
It's basically, well it's not basically. It's it's Eddie Kingston

771
00:52:15,679 --> 00:52:20,239
in it to two. Uh, and you know, do a ballet,

772
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:26,880
specifically Swan Lake. But in my defense, have you ever

773
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:28,360
seen Eddie Kingston look that good?

774
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,159
Speaker 3: He's never looked more in shape.

775
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: He looks fantastic. I mean, sim slim, slim, trim, ready

776
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:44,960
to go with some long ass arms. I shut, He's

777
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,920
got real store legs and really long arms.

778
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 3: Uh, which is.

779
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:58,639
Speaker 1: Exactly I don't know. I don't know what possessed me

780
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:03,840
to do this, but but I did. If you notice,

781
00:53:04,039 --> 00:53:07,679
I did get his necklace right, and I put the

782
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:11,360
necklace around his neck that is the actual necklace that

783
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:17,639
he wears. So I spent way too much time again

784
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:19,360
on On.

785
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,639
Speaker 3: Gave him a snipey witlas musta.

786
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 1: Yes you shouldn't.

787
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:28,639
Speaker 2: You could have had him in that T shirt that said.

788
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that just didn't go well with the pink.

789
00:53:34,639 --> 00:53:42,119
But anyway, just I'm sure somewhere someway this will make

790
00:53:42,159 --> 00:53:45,760
it out onto the internet. But it's not Swan Lake.

791
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,800
It's sucker fab. Does anybody have a FABI because I

792
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,880
have one, but I'll give somebody else an opportunity to

793
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:53,519
go first.

794
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,760
Speaker 2: I have a super quick one, go ahead.

795
00:53:57,639 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 4: I don't follow TNA wrestler at all. I don't know

796
00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:07,079
the last time I watched an episode of TNA. I

797
00:54:07,119 --> 00:54:10,239
couldn't tell you who the TNA World Champion is or

798
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:16,840
anything like that. But interestingly, TNA is bringing their pay

799
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:23,519
per view Rebellion to Cleveland in April, and I just

800
00:54:23,559 --> 00:54:29,480
so happened to live in Cleveland. Yes, so unfortunately it's

801
00:54:29,519 --> 00:54:33,760
not an aw pay per view, but I don't think

802
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:38,679
I'm gonna pass up the opportunity to go see a

803
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,840
wrestling pay per view even if it's not AW.

804
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,559
Speaker 1: Well, what does it matter? I mean, if you like wrestling,

805
00:54:45,079 --> 00:54:49,880
it doesn't matter which promotion you want that that's in

806
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:54,559
your town. Support wrestling, Support the wrestlers. They appreciate it.

807
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:59,800
I have Mike Cafabe is something that I talked about

808
00:55:00,079 --> 00:55:02,639
yesterday on our social media is the aw fan of

809
00:55:02,679 --> 00:55:05,719
social media I've seen and I don't know if you've

810
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:08,440
noticed this if you guys are on social media other

811
00:55:08,519 --> 00:55:14,239
than discord, but there have been no, no, like, quite

812
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,920
a few posts saying I'm new to a w Where

813
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:22,079
do I start? You know, I'm just starting to watch

814
00:55:22,079 --> 00:55:24,800
and get into AW What do I need to do

815
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,000
to get caught up? What would you say to people

816
00:55:28,039 --> 00:55:30,519
that are saying that they need to get caught up

817
00:55:30,679 --> 00:55:32,719
other than watch the shows?

818
00:55:33,079 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 3: You know? I think I asked them what they've most

819
00:55:37,639 --> 00:55:43,039
liked with what they've seen and kind of be like, Okay,

820
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,239
well I'm going to give you a little history on

821
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,119
them and their most important fuse and then you know,

822
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,320
if you're interested in that, we can talk about more stuff.

823
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,840
Don't just start going you need to watch, find out

824
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:59,280
what they like, find out what they enjoy from what

825
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,920
they have scene, and build off that. That's how you

826
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,199
make new fans, not telling them what you think they

827
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:11,440
should watch, asking what they like, and then saying okay,

828
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,480
based on that, this is what I say.

829
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. What I usually tell them, Chris is I tell

830
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:20,440
them watch the show, which is a canned answer. But

831
00:56:20,639 --> 00:56:23,079
look at the shows and if there's wrestlers that you

832
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:27,360
don't know that you say, hey, those guys are interesting

833
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,920
or that woman is interesting, then go onto the aaw

834
00:56:31,039 --> 00:56:36,719
YouTube channel and look up. You know, for example, if

835
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:41,599
you've never seen Kenny Omega before and you see him

836
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:43,679
and you're like, wow, I want to see what this

837
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,320
guy is about, you can go on the YouTube channel.

838
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,159
You can go on social media and you can find

839
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:52,800
all kinds of information and matches and snippets and promos

840
00:56:53,159 --> 00:56:56,440
that Kenny Omega has done. That's what I would do.

841
00:56:56,480 --> 00:57:01,239
I would watch the show, and what you like and

842
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,360
what you enjoy on the show, go back and watch

843
00:57:05,079 --> 00:57:09,880
some of that, and in doing so, then you're then

844
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:14,440
you're exposed to other wrestlers and other stories.

845
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,639
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure, you'd be like, I really like

846
00:57:19,079 --> 00:57:23,239
what I see from Hayman, and it's like, oh, there's

847
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:28,760
so much good stuff there right exactly, Like and then yeah,

848
00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:32,320
you could like, Okay, see who you like, go watch this,

849
00:57:32,719 --> 00:57:36,960
go watch that stuff, and fine, like, oh I really

850
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:40,639
like this guy too, I really like this person exactly.

851
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: When you look at the AW were Women's World Champion Tecla,

852
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:48,039
I mean she's really not been in AW that. I

853
00:57:48,039 --> 00:57:50,199
mean she's been in AW for about a year now,

854
00:57:50,599 --> 00:57:55,800
but she's got a lot more history than just what

855
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,320
she's done at a W. I personally think that what

856
00:57:59,119 --> 00:58:04,760
uh techless feud with starting President Tero o'conta is fascinating

857
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,199
just in and of itself to watch and learned a

858
00:58:07,239 --> 00:58:10,159
lot about what tech is about. Then again, you've got

859
00:58:10,159 --> 00:58:13,000
people like But then again, you've got people you know

860
00:58:13,159 --> 00:58:18,000
that have frankly always been with AW other than stints

861
00:58:18,039 --> 00:58:21,119
in the Indies, They've always been with A to Chris

862
00:58:21,119 --> 00:58:25,519
Statlander is a good example, Britt Baker. You know there's

863
00:58:25,559 --> 00:58:31,800
another one, Darby Allen Hangman out of page. Really you

864
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:36,199
could argue for that. I mean as far as in America,

865
00:58:36,719 --> 00:58:41,840
Uh exactly, m jf rawlins perfect. So there are different

866
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:48,480
things to to research anyway, that's mikeah Fabbi. Does anybody

867
00:58:48,519 --> 00:58:51,239
else have a kafabe before we wrap things up for tonight?

868
00:58:52,119 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 3: I mean I've got the usual New Chapan rundown. We

869
00:58:56,519 --> 00:59:00,639
had New Beginning in Osaka last week. Really great show

870
00:59:00,679 --> 00:59:05,039
all around. I could not suggested enough. If you like

871
00:59:05,199 --> 00:59:08,239
New Japan Pro Wrestling, you will really enjoy the show.

872
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:12,039
I know not everyone has all the time. Top three,

873
00:59:12,719 --> 00:59:18,079
David Finley versus Calum Newman, Dave Kidd versus Andrade L

874
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:22,119
and the Knockout Brothers both versus Shota, Umino and Yubio

875
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:23,079
or Mura.

876
00:59:24,639 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 4: To night in.

877
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 3: Like a little under seven hours. I think, uh it

878
00:59:32,519 --> 00:59:36,360
will be the kickoff of the Fantasticamania Tour, which is

879
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:41,519
j in jp W n CMLL. There's a few wrestlers

880
00:59:41,519 --> 00:59:45,920
who have been on AW before, Hetchi Sero, Masca, Derada,

881
00:59:46,239 --> 00:59:49,440
Misty Co a few others as well. It's all it's

882
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,840
always a fun tour, fun show. You see the kind

883
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:56,519
of styles interacting, kind of an early morning start if

884
00:59:56,519 --> 00:59:59,760
you're in America. For most of us, I think fourth

885
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:05,000
our on the East Coast, three pot for Central. But

886
01:00:05,239 --> 01:00:07,280
it's always a fun show, it.

887
01:00:07,599 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 1: Right, I do want to say something here before we

888
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:16,199
sign off for tonight. When it comes to wrestling as

889
01:00:16,199 --> 01:00:20,719
a whole, whether you're a TNA fan, WWE fan, AW fan,

890
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:25,119
New Japan Stardom, t JPW, whatever you like, we do

891
01:00:25,199 --> 01:00:29,880
have the everything Pro wrestling Discord server. The discord link

892
01:00:30,119 --> 01:00:34,599
is on your screen right now and it will also

893
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:39,239
be in the in the description of our audio podcast.

894
01:00:39,639 --> 01:00:43,360
It's on all of our social media's networks. If you

895
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:49,639
look up AW fanob on TikTok x, Instagram, threads, YouTube,

896
01:00:50,079 --> 01:00:55,960
you're gonna find our discord server link. So uh literally,

897
01:00:56,760 --> 01:01:01,039
there is a wealth, a wealth of news on the

898
01:01:01,079 --> 01:01:04,800
discord server. We actually have. For example, we have an

899
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:08,679
AW channel, but we also have an AW spoilers channel,

900
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:13,159
so the spoilers are very easy to avoid. Just stay

901
01:01:13,199 --> 01:01:15,719
out of the spoilers channels for twenty four hours after

902
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:19,719
an event. We don't allow any spoilers in anything but

903
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:23,679
the spoilers channels. Same thing goes for T and A, R,

904
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:30,480
TJPWWWE you name it, and you know NJPW. We're pretty

905
01:01:30,519 --> 01:01:33,079
good about keeping the spoilers away from people that don't

906
01:01:33,079 --> 01:01:36,440
want to see them, let's put it that way. And

907
01:01:36,519 --> 01:01:39,599
on top of that, our discord server is very active

908
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:43,119
and it's a hack of a lot of fun and

909
01:01:43,199 --> 01:01:47,320
it's very friendly, so give it a chance, and of course

910
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:51,840
follow us on the AW fan hub subreddit. That's pretty

911
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:56,239
much where it has all got started. It's important to

912
01:01:56,360 --> 01:02:00,239
us that you join us and have fun with the community.

913
01:02:00,519 --> 01:02:05,079
Chris Rollins, thank you for joining me tonight for this

914
01:02:05,199 --> 01:02:09,599
episode of Ignition. It was fun seeing us kick off

915
01:02:09,639 --> 01:02:15,400
our fourth year of AW podcast unbelievable and we'll be

916
01:02:15,519 --> 01:02:21,559
back Tuesday night at eight forty five. Easter here practically

917
01:02:21,679 --> 01:02:24,559
every Tuesday night. The only time that we don't do

918
01:02:24,599 --> 01:02:27,880
a Tuesday night podcast is if it's kind of like

919
01:02:28,039 --> 01:02:31,559
Christmas Eve or something like that. Family and personal life

920
01:02:31,679 --> 01:02:37,360
comes first always for us, subut Generally speaking, we're here

921
01:02:37,519 --> 01:02:41,039
every single week. We look forward to seeing everybody and

922
01:02:41,519 --> 01:02:46,800
look leave a comment, like and subscribe to our YouTube channel,

923
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926
01:03:02,719 --> 01:03:07,039
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927
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If you're interested in joining the podcast, just join the podcast,

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01:03:13,239 --> 01:03:17,039
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929
01:03:18,599 --> 01:03:21,719
Was it a big rawlins, Chris, wasn't a hard thing

930
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:26,119
for you to get onto this podcast? Nope, you know

931
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,639
it's not. Yeah. I mean, if you show an interest

932
01:03:30,079 --> 01:03:32,679
and you can speak without well, if you sound better

933
01:03:32,719 --> 01:03:36,239
than me, which is not hard, you're in, you know,

934
01:03:37,079 --> 01:03:45,679
so yay, So anyway, we will see you, Okay, Yeah,

935
01:03:45,719 --> 01:03:49,159
I'll talk to you, you know, and that's that's just

936
01:03:49,239 --> 01:03:51,199
about it. You know, I'll talk and do a brief

937
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,840
conversation with you just to find out what you're about,

938
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and then you're in. It's as simple as that. And

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we have a lot of fun. You know, there's a

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reason why people show up here every week to talk

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about aw because it's fun. It's fun. It's our hobby,

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you know, and you know, we have to do something

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in our mother's basements. So this is what we're doing. Anyway,

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forty a w found a podcast team. This is Kelson.

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Good night everybody, and good night Ed. I'm sorry, Eddie,

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I really am.

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Speaker 2: Make sure you walk