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Speaker 1: So there was a lot of I mean, really, for years,
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of talk about the Crystal Rogers case,
Speaker 1: and obviously last two weeks ago, believe it was. That
Speaker 1: was when her former boyfriend Brooks Howk was found guilty
Speaker 1: of murder and he's awaiting sentencing. And in fact, he
Speaker 1: came up yesterday because of him trying to offload some assets.
Speaker 1: I guess in hopes that he doesn't have to end
Speaker 1: up giving a lot of what he left behind as
Speaker 1: he goes to prison, probably for the rest of his life.
Speaker 1: He doesn't want to have to give it to Krystal
Speaker 1: Rodgers' family. But anyways, the reason I'll bring that up
Speaker 1: is because that was easily one of the most nationally
Speaker 1: known cases from from this area, from this region in Kentucky,
Speaker 1: Anda and it didn't just gather a lot of interest
Speaker 1: around here. It was a national thing. Every network that
Speaker 1: has a true crime channel or a true crime section
Speaker 1: if you will, they covered it in some way. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's just how big that story was for over a decade,
Speaker 1: and I was thinking about, when's the last time we
Speaker 1: had something like that around here where it was just
Speaker 1: a big enough story that generated not just local interest,
Speaker 1: but national interest. And one of those is the Davidkam situation.
Speaker 1: So Terry Miners yesterday had Davidkam on his show for
Speaker 1: a exclusive Q and A and really just an overall
Speaker 1: great interview. If you guys haven't checked it out, another
Speaker 1: podcast is posted at WHS dot com. But I had
Speaker 1: forgot about this because it was a long time ago,
Speaker 1: and it of course was when I was a child.
Speaker 1: But Davidkam is a former Indiana state trooper. He spent
Speaker 1: thirteen years in prison for the murders of his wife
Speaker 1: and two children. Now he eventually was acquitted in twenty
Speaker 1: thirteen after a third trial, and that case really became
Speaker 1: one of the most controversial wrong convictions in really American
Speaker 1: legal history. That sounds like I'm exaggerating, but it's really not.
Speaker 1: I mean, I remember as a kid back in you know,
Speaker 1: two thousand is when that murder happened, and I remember
Speaker 1: just the overall coverage of it and how long it
Speaker 1: lingered as far as the different trials that went on.
Speaker 1: And I'm not looking for that type of content and
Speaker 1: coverage when I'm a twelve year old kid, But it
Speaker 1: was such a big story. You couldn't ignore it because
Speaker 1: it was on the news like every night. I mean,
Speaker 1: the internet really wasn't at all than what it is now,
Speaker 1: but it was such a big story at that time.
Speaker 1: Kids like myself at that age, I mean, it was
Speaker 1: hard not to know at least a little bit about it.
Speaker 1: But if you haven't checked out the interview that Terry
Speaker 1: did yesterday, I would recommend you checking out, because after
Speaker 1: hearing it yesterday, I did what I oftentimes do is
Speaker 1: just fall down a hole of true crime and just look.
Speaker 1: I mean, I can tell I can tell you that
Speaker 1: when it comes to true crime being the most popular
Speaker 1: genre in content, I'm a factor in that. I'm very
Speaker 1: little because I'm just one person, but it interests me
Speaker 1: in a big way, and I'd forgot all about this
Speaker 1: whole case, And of course I never really even looked
Speaker 1: into it with the resources we have now called the
Speaker 1: World Wide Web. And what really got me interested last
Speaker 1: night to the extent that I was up later than
Speaker 1: I probably should have been, is just that there was
Speaker 1: never really any clear motive as to why law enforcement
Speaker 1: thought that he murdered his wife and his children. And
Speaker 1: I mean their motives did shift, but even the ones
Speaker 1: that they brought up, there was no real merit to them.
Speaker 1: It was just it's almost as if they just wanted
Speaker 1: to have of it play out to where David cam
Speaker 1: was convicted of something heinous. So again he was wrongfully
Speaker 1: convicted twice. And then now he's been free for some
Speaker 1: years and he did get a final settlement, and that,
Speaker 1: of course, I'm sure is a little bit of help
Speaker 1: to him as he has you know, had to start
Speaker 1: his new life. But the real murderer has been in
Speaker 1: prison for quite some times. Charles Bonnet. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: did a deep dive just just reading about it, because
Speaker 1: again I'd never had really looked at it in a
Speaker 1: way that you can now with the World Wide Web.
Speaker 1: So if you guys haven't checked out the interview, it's
Speaker 1: over at WHS dot com. Really good stuff from Terry Miners.
Speaker 1: We'll play some clips throughout the morning here because it's
Speaker 1: interesting to hear him discuss the just the overall I
Speaker 1: mean life after after you know, I mean his life
Speaker 1: was ruined. And of course not only that, did he
Speaker 1: spent time in prison and was wrongfully convicted twice. I
Speaker 1: mean his children and his wife were murdered and he
Speaker 1: was accused of doing it. I mean, I'm listening to
Speaker 1: him yesterday talking with Terry and I'm just thinking, like
Speaker 1: I can't quite comprehend how someone could go through something
Speaker 1: like that. All right, your next update on trafficking Weather's
Speaker 1: coming up right here right now on news Radio eight
Speaker 1: forty WHS. So I'm reading more about this David cam
Speaker 1: story as he was on yesterday with Terry Miners, and
Speaker 1: the more I read, the more it is just insane
Speaker 1: as far as just how he was convicted twice. I mean,
Speaker 1: he had eleven alibi witnesses and still was convicted based
Speaker 1: off of really what was manufactured evidence. And I know
Speaker 1: this was a big story nationally. I started the six
Speaker 1: o'clock hour referencing that when it comes to cases that
Speaker 1: just really get national attention from not just news outlets,
Speaker 1: but just citizens people who just you know, are fascinated
Speaker 1: by stories the Crystal Rogers when it is certainly up there.
Speaker 1: But I would say this one is in that same mix.
Speaker 1: But imagine what it would have been had we had
Speaker 1: the true crime documentaries that we have and just really
Speaker 1: the you know, the true crime content world that's out there,
Speaker 1: because this one is just it's it is. It is crazy.
Speaker 1: I mean if you look at just what was I mean,
Speaker 1: yet you had a blood spatter expert that admitted to
Speaker 1: perjury in some of the earlier trials, and prosecutors of
Speaker 1: course accused of misconduct witness tampering, and then of course
Speaker 1: they changed their theories across three different trials, which that
Speaker 1: alone is a sign that you, I mean, like you're
Speaker 1: reaching here, like you clearly have just made up your
Speaker 1: mind and you either are ignoring the fact that you
Speaker 1: were wrong or you just have an inability to realize
Speaker 1: that you're wrong because of maybe some biased or just
Speaker 1: tunnel vision whatever it may be. I mean, it is
Speaker 1: it is wild to see that he was convicted twice
Speaker 1: with what appeared to be really nothing that truly linked
Speaker 1: him to this at all, And as far as motives
Speaker 1: that were out there, I mean you had infidelity was
Speaker 1: one that was thrown out there initially by prosecutors. Another
Speaker 1: was a life insurance situation. I mean, just an awful
Speaker 1: situation overall, and you could tell in the conversation, which
Speaker 1: again I recommend that you guys check it out if
Speaker 1: you didn't. He was on yesterday, David cam was with
Speaker 1: with Terry Miners. Whs dot com is where you can
Speaker 1: find it. But you know, I can't imagine and not
Speaker 1: many probably can imagine what he has he's actually gone through.
Speaker 1: And by the way, I mean, prosecutors when it comes
Speaker 1: to knowingly using false evidence, how are they not criminally
Speaker 1: held responsible, I mean, knowingly using evidence that you that
Speaker 1: is not real to try to I mean that's I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that's vile. So yeah, he later ended up joining
Speaker 1: the UH. I think it's the Innocence Project, which of
Speaker 1: course is something that he was innocent and thirteen years
Speaker 1: of his life he lost. And not only that, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sure he'd still be in prison if if he
Speaker 1: had the option of doing that, and it brought back
Speaker 1: his young children and his wife. Just just just awful.
Speaker 1: And by the way, the nonprofit that he joined was
Speaker 1: investigating innocence and it helps others that were that were
Speaker 1: wrongfully convicted. So yeah, just just an awful situation. Here
Speaker 1: here is here's a quick clip from the interview yesterday
Speaker 1: with Terry uh from U from from David cam.
Speaker 2: It's a new reality. But to be perfectly honest, I
Speaker 2: have to say, considering everything that I've been through the
Speaker 2: last five years, I'm blessed. And people find that hard
Speaker 2: to believe. But to be in the situation in which
Speaker 2: I currently find myself, I truly am and I'm blessed.
Speaker 1: Also, real quick here just him having the faith and
Speaker 1: belief that there would in fact be, as he says,
Speaker 1: a day of reckoning.
Speaker 2: I truly always believe that there would be a day
Speaker 2: a reckoning, if you will, and that the truth would
Speaker 2: be exposed and that I would not have to spend
Speaker 2: the rest of my life in present. I always believe that.
Speaker 1: So I was just chatting with John Shannon about this
Speaker 1: during our last break and when it comes to look,
Speaker 1: sometimes you just get things wrong, like I don't believe
Speaker 1: that there is when you've had situation like this, maybe
Speaker 1: not to this extent as far as just how clearly
Speaker 1: they just didn't want to believe anything other than the
Speaker 1: fact that this guy did it. But sometimes you just
Speaker 1: make mistakes, you get it wrong. But there's something just
Speaker 1: for lack of a better word, awful about law enforcement
Speaker 1: prosecutors who will have the proof that they got it
Speaker 1: wrong and it will be proven that they were wrong,
Speaker 1: and they don't have the ability to acknowledge it or
Speaker 1: I mean instead of I mean. And sometimes you do
Speaker 1: have situations where because of like a mistake when it
Speaker 1: comes to the investigation, that'll lead to somebody getting off
Speaker 1: with the crime whenever everybody knows the evidence that's there
Speaker 1: is really the proof that's needed. But then there's other
Speaker 1: times where the proof is there that they got it wrong,
Speaker 1: and yet they still want to live in a world
Speaker 1: like again, everybody makes mistakes, including law enforcement, and I'm
Speaker 1: sure there's many examples of them acknowledging it. But then
Speaker 1: there's some just I can't quite comprehend how there's just
Speaker 1: this inability to say that, yeah, you were wrong, and
Speaker 1: not only did you get it wrong, you probably ruined
Speaker 1: somebody's life along the way. All right, let's get an
Speaker 1: update on Travack and Weather. We'll also get to another
Speaker 1: sports update with Scott Fitzgerald right here on news Radio
Speaker 1: eight forty whas. Thank you very much, John. It is
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Speaker 1: forty whas Coffee and Company, Nick Coffee. That's me John
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Speaker 1: You'll get another update of Travck and weather coming up
Speaker 1: in just a few minutes, and a big story last
Speaker 1: week that I feel like it's kind of died down
Speaker 1: a little bit. However, it was this news was met with,
Speaker 1: I guess more complaining than I would have expected, and
Speaker 1: that is the Kentucky Oaks Race moving to a primetime slot,
Speaker 1: which means it's not going to take place in the
Speaker 1: late afternoon moving forward, it's going to take place in
Speaker 1: the evening. And don't I don't deny at all that
Speaker 1: this in fact is going to certainly change a lot
Speaker 1: for folks, meaning if if you're a business restaurant specifically,
Speaker 1: this is going to make things a little bit different
Speaker 1: for you as far as customer flow and customer volume
Speaker 1: on Oaks Day. But at the same time, I feel
Speaker 1: like a lot of people are kind of missing the
Speaker 1: big picture here because when it comes to Churchill Downs
Speaker 1: and by the way. I just still don't know for
Speaker 1: sure if in fact it's their decision specifically, or if
Speaker 1: it's NBC's decision. But regardless, let's just live in a
Speaker 1: world where Churchill downs said, yes, we want to move
Speaker 1: this to a primetime Friday night race. They're not expected
Speaker 1: or required certainly to make decisions based on how it
Speaker 1: affects other businesses in this city. And some of the
Speaker 1: complain it's almost as if these business owners are not
Speaker 1: aware of that. They seem to think that Churchill needs
Speaker 1: to consult with them before making a decision about their
Speaker 1: own event. And I don't know how. I can't. I
Speaker 1: can't comprehend why that is the mindset of some. And look,
Speaker 1: others have just been on record discussing it is that
Speaker 1: it's going to change things, and maybe that they don't
Speaker 1: prefer that it moved Tonight's. They prefer that it stay
Speaker 1: where it's always been. But there have been some that
Speaker 1: act as if they're victims here, and I just I
Speaker 1: don't I don't understand, and I'm not trying to sound dismissive,
Speaker 1: but some I think some of the backlash to me
Speaker 1: feels like entitlement. And here's the reality of it. For years,
Speaker 1: local businesses have reaped the benefits of what Churchill Downs
Speaker 1: brings to this city during Derby Week, and now that
Speaker 1: things are changing, instead of adapting, some are just upset
Speaker 1: that it's not the same that it's always been. So
Speaker 1: instead of complaining, I mean I just would have assumed
Speaker 1: that there would have been a quick There would have
Speaker 1: been you know, instant action to adapt and figure out
Speaker 1: how can we still substantially benefit as a business off
Speaker 1: of having an event like the Kentucky Derby in our city.
Speaker 1: And obviously Friday is Oaks Day, but still, let's just
Speaker 1: mean the week of the Kentucky Derby here in Louisville
Speaker 1: is a special thing brings in so many from across
Speaker 1: the world. So instead of thinking, oh poor me, this
Speaker 1: is gonna make my restaurant less busy there, you know,
Speaker 1: I think I would I expected folks to just realize,
Speaker 1: whatever they put that thing at three o'clock at night,
Speaker 1: we're going to find a way to adjust and continue
Speaker 1: to be able to benefit off of the fact that
Speaker 1: we have a restaurant in a city that has an
Speaker 1: event like the Kentucky Derby. I mean, another thing that's
Speaker 1: just to me really rather obvious in recent years, t
Speaker 1: Downs doesn't need Louisville to be at its best during
Speaker 1: Derby Week. I know that sounds bad, but it's just
Speaker 1: it's just the truth. I mean, it's become clear with
Speaker 1: the many changes in recent years at Churchill Downs, meaning
Speaker 1: just the improvements, their renovations. It's it's nothing like it
Speaker 1: used to look. It's not it's not set up to
Speaker 1: really draw a big crowd of locals. I don't think
Speaker 1: they're doing anything to like say the hell with Louisville
Speaker 1: natives and Kentucky Ino natives. We don't want you here.
Speaker 1: But they're clearly making decisions and changes that don't reflect
Speaker 1: anything about where they are, and including this change this
Speaker 1: move here to put the oaks race at night. So
Speaker 1: I mean their decisions are being made with the goal
Speaker 1: of helping the local economy and they and they're not
Speaker 1: expected to. I mean, these decisions are made with I
Speaker 1: think the the well understanding that this event has become
Speaker 1: one of the biggest events really in the world every year.
Speaker 1: I don't want to maybe I'm a little biased here
Speaker 1: because it's in Louisville, but at times failed to realize
Speaker 1: just because it's always been here, working in this industry
Speaker 1: and covering Derby for this station has let me know
Speaker 1: just what Derby is as far as how big of
Speaker 1: an event it actually is in the amount of people
Speaker 1: that come here from across the world. So Churchill Down's
Speaker 1: is going to do it's best for them, and that's
Speaker 1: what they should do. I think more than anything, it's
Speaker 1: a wake up call that they don't really need us
Speaker 1: as far you know, when I say they don't need Louisville,
Speaker 1: what I'm more so mean is that like anything that
Speaker 1: they do that does help you, you should just appreciate
Speaker 1: and even if they're not doing it because they're thinking, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's make this decision so it can better benefit a
Speaker 1: local business. I mean, I just I'm surprised a little
Speaker 1: bit when it comes to just the entitlement. And also,
Speaker 1: by the way, I don't believe for a second that
Speaker 1: these restaurants that it's tough to get a table at
Speaker 1: on any night on the weekend, certainly that they're going
Speaker 1: to be empty on Oaks night because the race is
Speaker 1: going on. Like, let's get real here, all right, your
Speaker 1: next up of traving a weather coming your way right
Speaker 1: here on News Radio eight forty whs how is it
Speaker 1: already the thirtieth of July. June July has come and gone,
Speaker 1: and summer break has come and gone for those that
Speaker 1: are heading back to school today in southern Indiana. So
Speaker 1: I think it is New Albany, Floyd County they are
Speaker 1: they're back to school today. And when I went back
Speaker 1: to school after summer break when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: I always remember the first day like once you get
Speaker 1: to the day before the first day, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: summer's over. It's hits you, right, I mean it's you know,
Speaker 1: there's no more holding on to any moments that are left.
Speaker 1: It's it's over. And at that point some excitement kicked in,
Speaker 1: usually just because you'd get to see your friends that
Speaker 1: you haven't seen in a while. You got your fresh
Speaker 1: outfit probably laid out ready to get the day started,
Speaker 1: you got your new school supplies, and there's there's some excitement.
Speaker 1: I remember not sleeping well the night before the first
Speaker 1: day of school, but it wasn't because of just you know,
Speaker 1: being worried or scared. I was just I feel like excited.
Speaker 1: But the excitement usually didn't last long. I think probably
Speaker 1: about like halfway through the day, maybe sometimes the next
Speaker 1: day it would be the ultimate Oh my gosh, it's here.
Speaker 1: I have to wait many, many, many months before I
Speaker 1: get another summer break. So if you're heading back to
Speaker 1: school today, parents, I don't know if we have any
Speaker 1: children listening, but if we do, happy back to school day.
Speaker 1: And if you're a parent, I now get it. I
Speaker 1: now know why. And I'm sure everybody's situation is different,
Speaker 1: but life seems to be more I don't know calm
Speaker 1: for people when their kids are in school because there's
Speaker 1: a consistency that's there. You know where your kid is
Speaker 1: every day. Now. I'm sure if you have your kid
Speaker 1: in daycare or you've got them involved in stuff during
Speaker 1: the summer, you still know that you know, you know
Speaker 1: where they are. I'm assuming everybody knows where their kid is.
Speaker 1: But yeah, back to school. For some of those in
Speaker 1: southern Indiana. One thing that didn't exist it is now
Speaker 1: a big, big thing on the on the first day
Speaker 1: of school. It's those pictures that you take outside of
Speaker 1: your house or maybe outside of school. We've taken it
Speaker 1: one every year for our daughter and my son will
Speaker 1: be starting kindergarten a couple of weeks. But that wasn't
Speaker 1: a thing whenever I was whenever I was young, because
Speaker 1: we didn't have these smartphones that you just, you know,
Speaker 1: pull out of your pocket and capture moments, which I
Speaker 1: haven't ever really thought about that, John, you and I
Speaker 1: are somewhat in the same age range where your young
Speaker 1: childhood didn't feature smartphones to that extent. But you know,
Speaker 1: I have thousands upon thousands of pictures of my kids,
Speaker 1: and some of them I'll probably never use again, but
Speaker 1: I know I can. I got, I got hours of
Speaker 1: research I can do to go pull out all kinds
Speaker 1: of pictures of my kids, which I'm glad that I have,
Speaker 1: But that wasn't a thing when we were growing up. Anyways,
Speaker 1: you'll you'll know it. You'll know it one day. I'm
Speaker 1: sure you already do. You're taking pictures of baby Daisy,
Speaker 1: and sure every hour. Sure that I ever thought I
Speaker 1: would have anything, Yep. And I'm sure parents you know
Speaker 1: that are that are old enough to be our parents,
Speaker 1: they don't know what they didn't have, right, but I'm
Speaker 1: sure they know. I'm sure they wish they could go
Speaker 1: back in time and reference a picture whenever little John
Speaker 1: Alden turned three or he took his first step something
Speaker 1: like that. So that's one of the many ways I
Speaker 1: appreciate where we are from a technological standpoint. All right,
Speaker 1: let's get to another update on traffic and whether Bobby
Speaker 1: Ellis will get us caught up on how the roads
Speaker 1: are looking this morning. And also we'll get another sports
Speaker 1: update with Scott coming your way here in just a
Speaker 1: few minutes on news radio. Wait forty whas